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Hi, queers and weirdos. It's your Uncle Gary, and this
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is Forgotten Queers. I first knew Sir Patrick Stewart as
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Captain Jean-Luc Picard. And let's be honest, locking eyes with
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that gorgeous, sexy authority figure with those steely blue eyes
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and that voice made me want to find out more.
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So I started looking beyond the captain's uniform. I stumbled
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upon I, Claudius, Lifeforce, and Dune, and I discovered he
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had a deep and varied career in the theater. There
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was a whole Patrick Stewart I hadn't met yet, and
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I wanted to keep watching. Then I found Jeffrey. Watching
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him play Sterling, a man so openly and affectionately in
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love with another man, There was a part of me
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that hoped Patrick might be gay himself. Wishful thinking?
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Absolutely.
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Uncle Gary is allowed a little wishful thinking. Learning he
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was straight put an end to that particular fantasy, but
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discovering the ally he was gave me another reason to
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admire him. Here was someone I had already looked up to,
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someone I found incredibly attractive, treating love between men with
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warmth and respect.
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And then there was his.
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Sense of humor. I already fancied the commanding voice and
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the authority. Finding out he could be wonderfully silly, that
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was hardly going to help me behave myself. Over the years,
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that admiration became affection. So when I found out he
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had died, I openly cried. That was the first time
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I had done that over a celebrity's death. He had
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meant more to me than I had realized. Today I
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want to talk about why. About Jeffree. his role of
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a turn on Frasier, the queer themes in X-Men, and
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the love he so openly shared with his friend Ian McKellen.
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There will be some discussion of HIV, AIDS, loss, and
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spoilers for Jeffrey, but I want to begin with the
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pleasure of discovering an actor who kept giving me more
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reasons to love his work. For many people, Patrick Stewart
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will always be Captain Jean-Luc Picard. For others, he will
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be Professor Charles Xavier. Those characters carry authority. You believe
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people would listen when they speak. Patrick could make a
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quiet sentence feel like something the entire room needed to consider.
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But if you would have watched the Star Trek bloopers,
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you know he could lose his composure along with everybody else.
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There's one where he gives the order to engage, where
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he means energize, And his castmates start laughing. Apparently even
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the captain occasionally needed someone to check which button he
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was pressing. What I enjoy about those moments is seeing
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the person underneath the performance. The familiar face is there.
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The uniform is there. And suddenly the man who usually
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looks responsible for everyone's survival is a complete goof.
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And then there is.
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That adorable birthday tribute to Gene Roddenberry. Patrick performs a
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little song and dance routine on the bridge on the
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Enterprise in costume, turning an alphabet song into an affectionate
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tribute to the man who created Star Trek. If you
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haven't seen it, please look it up. Watching the captain
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of the Enterprise launch into a musical number is a
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very particular kind of joy. You spend all that time
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trusting him to negotiate with hostile civilizations And then you
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discover he's also available for birthday entertainment. And he commits
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to it. That's what makes it so charming. He gives
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himself permission to be playful. And the affection behind the
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performance comes through. God, I find that very attractive in
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a person. Being good at what you do and still
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being able to enjoy yourself. Having dignity without needing to
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protect it every second. That's the part of Patrick I
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want us to keep in view today. We can talk
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about his importance and still remember how much fun he
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could be. Jeffrey came out in 1995, five years before
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the X-Men film. So Patrick was already Captain Picard when
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he played Sterling. But Professor X was still ahead of him.
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He was somebody audiences associated with composure and command liked.
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walking into a queer romantic comedy and playing a character
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whose confidence took a very different form. He let Sterling
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have his own rhythms, his own wit, his own way
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of moving through the world. Jeffrey was directed by Christopher
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Ashley and adapted by Paul Rudnick from his own play.
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Stephen Webber, whom we remember as Brian Hackett on Wings,
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plays Jeffrey, a gay man in New York, who decides
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to swear off sex. Then he meets Steve, played by
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Michael T. Weiss, who would later play Jared on The Pretender,
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and the attraction complicates that decision. Steve is HIV positive.
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And for many queers and weirdos who didn't live through
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that time, we need to pause here.
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I want you to think.
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About 1994 and 1995. The treatment breakthrough that would change
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so many lives was still ahead. Effective combination therapy became
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the standard care in 1996. People were watching friends, lovers,
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and whole circles of chosen family get sick and die.
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Some gay men chose to stop having sex because abstinence
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felt like the surest way to survive. Understand that.
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Survive.
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Others practiced safer sex, but knowing how to reduce the
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risk didn't necessarily make the fear disappear. So Jeffrey's decision
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comes out of that world. Underneath the comedy is a
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man trying to protect himself from the infection and from
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the possibility of falling in love with someone he might lose.
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You don't have to agree with how he treats Steve
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to understand where that fear comes from. And Steve deserves
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to be seen as a person with desires and feelings
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of his own. He wants affection. He wants a relationship.
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His diagnosis doesn't erase any of that. That is part
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of the tension that makes the story worth talking about.
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Fear can be understandable and still hurt
the person on
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the receiving end of it. Patrick plays Sterling, an interior
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decorator whose partner, Darius, is played.
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By Brian Batt.
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If Brian looks familiar, you may recognize him as Sal Romano,
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the closet art director on Mad Men. In Jeffrey, Sterling
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and Darius gave us another way of looking at love
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in the face of illness. That relationship is the heart
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of it for me. Sterling has advice, certainly, and some
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very sharp comic timing. But the relationship gives that advice weight.
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He has somebody to love. His perspective comes with something
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at stake. I enjoyed the movie. I particularly enjoyed Patrick's role.
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There was a freedom in his performance that I found
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lovely to watch. He seemed to let his feminine side out,
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and he seemed to enjoy it. That's what reached me
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through the screen. Pleasure, ease, and affection. Of course, femininity
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doesn't define gay men. We have as many ways of
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being ourselves as anybody else. What I enjoyed was seeing
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this particular man allowed to be expressive and take up space.
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Sterling can be grand.
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He can be funny.
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He can be somebody you would very much like on
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your side if an evening turned unpleasant. Underneath all that,
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I believed his love. Patrick did a great job of
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playing a man in love with another man. That sounds
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like a simple thing to say, but it's the heart
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of why I wanted this episode. I believed there was
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a relationship underneath the jokes. When you care about the
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person delivering a funny line, you hear more than the punchline.
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You begin to recognize what the humor might protect, what
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it helps him survive, and what makes it let him share.
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That's my reading of Sterling. His humor makes room for
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difficult feelings. There's something moving about his story that lets
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queer people be funny while frightened. Laughter belongs to us
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where life is difficult too. We don't have to
become
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solemn every minute for our suffering to count. Sometimes you
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laugh because somebody has to say exactly the outrageous thing
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you needed to hear. Sometimes you laugh because the alternative
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at that particular moment is falling apart. And sometimes something
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is simply funny even in a terrible year People still
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have personalities. Patrick lets Sterling have this. And before we
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leave the movie itself, can we talk about how many
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people turn up in this thing? We barely settle in
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before another familiar face appears. Sigourney Weaver plays a self-help guru.
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Nathan Lane turns up as a priest with enthusiasm for
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musical theater. Then there's Lumpy Dukakis, Christine Baranski, and more.
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And I'm not going to read.
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The whole cast list, but Jeffrey certainly gives you plenty
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of opportunity to stop and recognize somebody. At a certain point,
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you almost expect the next person coming through the door
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to have a war domination and a very strong opinion.
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Those appearances help give the movie its bustle. Jeffrey's romantic
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dilemma sits inside this noisy, crowded world where everyone seems
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to have something to contribute. And Weaver deserves a special
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mention beyond her scene. Paul Rudnick recalled that her agreement
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to appear helped break a casting stalemate, making it easier
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for others to join the film. Her contribution went beyond
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the few minutes we see her on screen. My first
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reaction was that playing Sterling could have alienated some of
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Patrick Stewart's fans. I can't tell you how many people
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objected or whether it actually cost him work, but the
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concern about playing gay was real enough to come up
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in interviews at the time. In the 1995 interview, Stewart
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emphasized wanting to do the role well and show respect
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to gay people. He asked Rudnick and Ashley to watch
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for stereotypes in his performance. That tells me where he
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was putting his attention. on the people he was betraying
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on getting the work right. And Patrick wasn't the only
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one taking a chance. Stephen Webber and Michael T. Weiss
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deserve credit too. They carry the central romance, playing Jeffrey
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and Steve as men who want each other. Contemporary reporting
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described fears about public perception and difficulty casting those roles.
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Rednick later recalled that performers were wary of joining the movie.
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That is a climate in which Stephen and Weiss said yes.
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Playing these roles could have jeopardized their careers. That doesn't
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mean either man actually lost work because of the film.
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It means they accepted the roles in an industry where
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being associated with gay desire could be treated as professional liability.
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They deserve recognition for going ahead. A romance needs actors
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willing to make attraction believable, to let the audience see
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tenderness and desire. Weber and Weiss gave the movie that.
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And I don't want any admiration for Patrick to leave
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their contribution in the background. As for Patrick, watching him
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gave me the feeling that he wasn't going to make
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Sterling smaller to reassure somebody who was uncomfortable. We have
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all seen versions of supposed acceptance that depend on queer
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people being quiet enough, discreet enough, or familiar enough. A
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performance can push against that simply by letting a character
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enjoy being himself. Years later, Stuart remembered preparing for Jeffrey
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by spending an afternoon in the West Village with Brian
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Batt and Stephen Weber. They were taking photographs to help
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create the personal history visible in Sterling's apartment. Those photographs
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gave Sterling and Darius a life beyond the scenes we watched.
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Pictures with friends, time spent out in the world, the
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things that make a home feel inhabited. We recognize love
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partly through the everyday life around it. Okay, now, Queers
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and Weirdos, we need to spend a little more time
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with Frasier. Because Patrick Stewart as Alistair Burke deserved more
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than one episode. And I am still prepared to complain
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about that. That one episode is The Doctor Is Out.
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Season 11, Episode 3. It originally aired on September 30, 2003.
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Patrick plays an opera director who believes Fraser is gay
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and starts courting him. Fraser, meanwhile, is so enchanted by
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the tension in the glamorous company that clearing things up
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becomes a remarkably low priority. I honestly think this is
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one of Fraser's best pairings. Possibly, dare I say it,
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his best? The shared interests, the sophistication, the chemistry. there
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is one fairly substantial compatibility issue. But Fraser is doing
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his best.
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To ignore it.
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Alistair's visit to the crane department gives Patrick some wonderful material.
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When Niles announces that he and Daphne are expecting, Alistair responds.
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Can't say I was. Four words.
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Patrick barely needs to lift a finger and Niles has
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been thoroughly dealt with. There's also his response when Daphne
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asks about Peter O'Toole attending the party. Alistair makes it
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clear that Peter O'Toole is excluded for reasons that apparently
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require no further discussion. Now I want an entirely separate
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episode about whatever happened between those two. We get an explanation,
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and somehow that makes it better. Patrick makes you believe
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that there is a magnificent scandal behind that moment. He
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has another beautiful, dry exchange about the financially painful conversation
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about his wife after his sexuality becomes public. His timing
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lets the second half of.
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The joke arrive like an invoice.
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What I appreciate is how little he needs to push.
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The voice, the pause, the certainty that Alistair knows precisely
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what he is saying.
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It all works together.
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And underneath the barbs, he makes Alistair appealing. You understand
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why Fraser wants to keep spending time with him. Patrick
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gives him warmth, confidence, and the kind of
attention Fraser
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could happily live on. Then Frasier finally admits why he's
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letting this misunderstanding continue.
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All my life I have dreamed of being half of
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a power couple and I finally am! That might be the.
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Most Frasier thing Frasier has ever said. The shared interests,
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the sophistication, the social standing. He finally has found his
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ideal partner and he would appreciate everyone giving him a
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little privacy while he ignores the compatibility issue.
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And honestly, I understand.
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If Patrick Stewart were sweeping me into his glamorous world,
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I'd be reluctant to interrupt too. What makes the comedy
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work for me is how much it exposes Fraser's vanity.
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He can practically see him deciding which inconvenient facts he
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can postpone acknowledging. His common sense is going to have
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to make an appointment. personally, I think Alistair could have
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handled Frasier. He could appreciate his taste, match his theatricality,
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and probably bring an argument to a complete stop with
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one raised eyebrow. I don't have to believe Frasier is
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secretly gay to enjoy their chemistry. I can enjoy seeing
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him with someone with confidence and taste meet his own.
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And I'll admit my own bias here.
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If Patrick Stewart were looking at me like that, I
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wouldn't have been concentrating on the opera either. Even the
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final joke about Fraser arriving without a bathing suit gives
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Alistair one more opportunity to make the situation delightfully awkward.
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Patrick leaves you with the same impression. This man is
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completely comfortable with himself, and Fraser is going to need
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a minute. For me, Alistair's confidence is a large part
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of his charm. I believe he enjoys his life, I
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believe he enjoys his flirting, and I believe spending an
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evening with him would be memorable. Watching this episode reminds
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me that part of Patrick's appeal was his ability to
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make me laugh. That magnificent voice could give you a
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speech about humanity or deliver a wicked little remark and
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leave me grinning. Those laughs belong in this tribute. Then
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there was Ian McKellen. I loved seeing them together. The
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affection was open.
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The smiles. The physical closeness. The kisses.
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You didn't need to invent a romance to recognize love.
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One well-documented example was the London premiere of Mr. Holmes
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in 2015, when they greet each other with a kiss.
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McKellen officiated Stewart's wedding to Sunny Ozel in 2013. That
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gives one some idea of the place he held into
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his life. In his published tribute, Ian described Patrick as
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someone he could rely on, admire, and love. That is
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more than enough to move me. There's something I treasure
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about seeing men express affection without seeming embarrassed by it.
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Particularly when one is gay and one is straight. Neither
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appears to need a running explanation of why being.
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Close is acceptable. They could be themselves together.
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That's what I took from watching them. And Patrick's playfulness
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followed him in interviews. During a conversation with Conan O'Brien
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about kissing in McKellen, Patrick went ahead and kissed Conan too.
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Some people bring a photograph to illustrate an interview story.
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Patrick brought a demonstration. I appreciate his commitment to making
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things clear. Those moments made me smile, but these behind
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them mattered as well. Friends are allowed to greet each
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other because they're happy to see each other. A kiss
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doesn't seem to become a crisis about somebody's masculinity. For
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a queer viewer, that public ease can be a relief.
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Here are two men who care about each other. An
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affection is allowed to be visible. Nobody has to withdraw
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a hand or turn a greeting into a joke at
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somebody else's expense. We spent so much time debating what
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love is printed to look like. I enjoyed seeing them
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get on with each other showing it. I loved
their silliness.
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Admiring somebody doesn't mean you only want to see them
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being dignified. Sometimes the joy is seeing a person with
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that much stature look delighted to be with his friend.
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Their friendship also brings us back to X-Men, where Stewart
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played Professor Xavier and McKellen played Magneto. While making the
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first film, Patrick and Ian had adjoining trailers. Patrick later
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explained that the long stretches between filming gave them time
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to sit together drink tea, and sometimes move on to
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something stronger in the afternoon. As they talked, they discovered
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how much they had in common. Those neighboring trailers helped
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their friendship grow. Before the red carpet kisses and the
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photographs so much of us enjoyed, there was time spent
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keeping each other company at work. I can picture the peel,
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a long day, a lot of waiting around, and somebody
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next door you actually want to spend time with. That
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is an excellent workplace benefit. Most job listings fail to
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mention whether Ian McKellen comes with the position. Their friendship
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had room to develop in those quieter hours. They could talk, laugh,
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and discover how much they enjoyed each other's company. That
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makes their work together feel a little warmer to me.
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On screen, Xavier and Magneto could argue about the future
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of the world. Between scenes, the actors playing them were
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getting to know each other over tea. For me, the
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core connection X-Men is easy to see. Characters have something
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about themselves that others may fear or reject. They have
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to decide whom to trust and whether revealing themselves will
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cost them their family, their safety, or their place in
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the world. That experience has a familiar shape for many
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queer people. I wouldn't say X-Men belongs exclusively in one interpretation.
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Its outsider story can speak to different communities. McKellen himself
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discussed its appeal to Black, Jewish, and gay audiences. His
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explicity connected the proposed cure for mutation with attempts to
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cure gay people. He also pointed to Bobby's disclosure to
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his parents next to as a coming out scene. Underneath
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the special effects is a question that hits close to home.
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Will the people who say they love you still want
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you when you understand who they are? And what do
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you do if they don't? This is why those stories
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can matter beyond the spectacle. A viewer can recognize the
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fear of being discovered, then see the characters finding people
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who understand them. I respond to the possibility of belonging,
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of having somewhere to go where the thing you were
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taught to conceal doesn't disqualify you.
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From being loved.
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You can watch for the action and still carry something
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more personal away with you. And having Stewart and McKellen
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at the center of those films adds another layer for me.
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Two actors whose real friendship becomes such a public source
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of affection. Stewart spoke publicly in support of LGBTQ equality.
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I also want to acknowledge this agreement because admiration should
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leave room for the whole person. In 2015, he supported
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a Northern Ireland baker's refusal to put a marriage equality
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message on a cake, taking it as a freedom of
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speech expression issue. Some LGBTQ people strongly disagreed. He subsequently
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reaffirmed his support for LGBTQ rights and rejected the idea
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that his position meant he opposed equality. That belongs in
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the record. You can appreciate his support and still disagree
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with that judgment. I don't need every listener to feel
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exactly as I do about him. What I'm explaining is
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why he mattered to me. His performances, his public words,
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and the affection he showed helped build that feeling over time.
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There's another role worth mentioning, Toby and Match, a dance
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teacher whose history includes relationships with men and women. It's
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another opportunity to see Stewart give emotional complexity to a
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queer character. For this episode, I keep returning to Sterling
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and Alistair. One made me believe in his love. The
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other made me wish Frasier could have figured out a
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way to keep him around.
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Both gave me pleasure.
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That is a place to remember too.
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So why did I cry?
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I think part of it was realizing how much affection
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had accumulated without me keeping track. The familiar voice, the characters,
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the pleasure of seeing him turn up somewhere unexpected and
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knowing I.
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Wanted to watch.
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Then the news came, and all of that feeling arrived
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at once. I never knew him personally. My grief doesn't
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pretend to be the same as the grief of his
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family or his friends, but the feeling was real, like
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many of us. He had become part of my life.
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like many of us, through his work. I lucked up
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to him. I enjoyed him. Like many of us, I
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found him sexy. I appreciated seeing a man with such
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authority also give us gentleness and play, like many of us.
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And I loved watching him play a man who loved
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another man without seeming to hold any part of the
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performance at arm's length. I miss that voice and the
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warmth he brought to his work. I miss the mischief too,
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the pleasure of watching this distinguished man discover an opportunity
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to be ridiculous and take full advantage of it. The bloopers,
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the interviews, the adorable birthday performance for Gene Roddenberry. He
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made me cry this week, but he gave me plenty
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of reasons to laugh over the years and want to
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remember those too.
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Thank you for Sterling. Thank you for Alistair.
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Thank you for the work that allows us to recognize
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something of ourselves and for the affection you were willing
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to show in public.
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I'm going to miss you, Patrick.
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And to my queers and weirdos, if you watch Jeffrey,
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tell me what you think. If you revisit The Doctors Out,
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tell me whether you agree about that pairing.
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I expect a few of you will.
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And if you find that birthday video, watching the captain
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enjoy himself is the only way to spend a few minutes.
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You can find this episode and the rest of Forgotten
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Queers at ForgottenQueers.com.
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I love you and take your fiber.