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Speaker 1:
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On progress . Hi, Troy, how are you?
Speaker 2:
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Good Connor. How you
Speaker 1:
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Doing? I'm good. Thank you. So I think that this works best when you are the captain of the ship. And I'm the engine that is to say that you steer and I propel. You understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:
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I do. And , and don't forget sometimes when I steer I'm gonna steer into the , the iceberg.
Speaker 1:
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Yep . I'm gonna protect us from that. Where , where would you like to take us? Hang on. Getting , I'm getting a very important phone call from port Albert , British Columbia. Take
Speaker 2:
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It.
Speaker 1:
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Are you kidding me? You think I'm gonna answer this?
Speaker 2:
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I'm curious to see what the call's gonna
Speaker 1:
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Be like. No, no, no, no. Do you know where this is? Port Albert . I'm quite sure that this is on Vancouver island. Yeah. It's
Speaker 2:
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It's a city located Vancouver island. It's in the province of BC. Uh , I think it's the population's around 17,000.
Speaker 1:
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Did you just look that up on the fly?
Speaker 2:
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Yes, but this does segue into a conversation I wanted to have with you, which is memory and intelligence,
Speaker 1:
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Memory and intelligence. Okay. Memory intelligence .
Speaker 2:
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I'm reading a book. It's called moon walking with Einstein. It teaches you about memory palaces and a whole bunch of techniques for membership. That's pretty fun. It's neat. It's like tricks. I'm curious to know what you think is, is this is the me the relationship , uh , memory. Is it really tied to intelligence?
Speaker 1:
1:17
Okay. Uh , a good friend of mine is , uh , quick to point out that a lot of of life is based on the definition of words. Like how you define a word versus how I define a word. So we spend like, oh
Speaker 2:
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Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:
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A lot of our existence arguing about what means . Okay , so you say intelligence, you say intelligence and I go, what does intelligence mean? And
Speaker 2:
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Yeah . Good question.
Speaker 1:
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And then we got the define inte and I need to set context for what I think intelligence means. And then I can answer the question about the link.
Speaker 2:
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Well, I have a quote about intelligence that would actually , uh, would help. Do you want it a
Speaker 1:
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Quote , a quote? That sounds objective. Sure. Give me . Okay .
Speaker 2:
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Well , um, intelligence comes to being when the brain recognizes its own fallibility , uh , and thoughts see ,
Speaker 1:
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Stop . This is philosophical. That's to . <laugh>
Speaker 2:
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What do you want ? What something scientific.
Speaker 1:
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I think it's best to think about the brain, like a computer. That's how I think about it. And if you think about a computer, you can break it down into two different components. One of them is storage and one of them is processing power.
Speaker 2:
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Sure. Isn't there a third
Speaker 1:
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What's the third
Speaker 2:
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Direction? Like how do you know what , what to do the computers? Just sit in their idly. Otherwise.
Speaker 1:
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Fair enough. I mean, I , you could just say that's the problem. That's POed to the brain. I'm I'm just gonna stick to storage and compute.
Speaker 2:
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Okay, cool.
Speaker 1:
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Okay. And so memory to me in the context of, of people is storage. Storage has two components. I guess there's the amount of storage you have and your ability to index that what's in that storage and recall it right .
Speaker 2:
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Index.
Speaker 1:
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And then mm-hmm , <affirmative> , you've got your processor. So there are some people who have very high processing capability, but have almost no storage. Mm-hmm <affirmative> then there are some people who have great storage, but low processing power they can't connect to. And then, so the real trick is if you can combine that storage and then you're able to use your intellectual horsepower, your processing power, I mean that all together is intelligence. So I think to me, memory is a component of intelligence, but not all of intelligence on its own. Is that your final answer ? That's my final answer. Yes.
Speaker 2:
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Okay. So I, I , I agree. Storage is important. Uh , compute power is important, but without like another, another element, it just is , it's a nerd. It's just sitting there. It has to be something else. Like we choose to have , have a conversation. Well ,
Speaker 1:
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<laugh> you, do you choose to have a conversation? <laugh> I'm being held host . What , what do you like, what techniques did you tell me about this?
Speaker 2:
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So not that you can validate this, but I've memorized my visa card number, my , uh , bank card number, my me express number. And I actually used it once where I was paying for my hot yoga membership pass. And, and, and it didn't happen to have my card handy, but why are you laughing?
Speaker 1:
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Is this our first promotional spot or are we doing almost for hot yoga now? Did you do an exchange? You're paying rate ? Did you plugging this spit hot yoga or what? Okay , keep going. Sorry. I just , I ,
Speaker 2:
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So no , it's okay . I was wondering , so , so at Moto yoga and the teller said to me, or the cashier or whatever that person's name is the , the
Speaker 1:
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Guru, wait, the guru is the cashier.
Speaker 2:
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Yeah . It's , it's a very enlightened approach. One serves to , uh , it's a servant leadership thing.
Speaker 1:
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Right, right, right. Oh man. The is great. Okay. All right . So you gave somebody , uh , who maybe guru, maybe a catchier , your credit card number. Okay .
Speaker 2:
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So they said, I said, Noma , stay . He said, DEMA , stay
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, what's your visa card number. Right. Which apparently is how they greet each other often . Right .
Speaker 1:
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All the way back to the origins of your yoga . Yeah. Okay . That's
Speaker 2:
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Right . <laugh> that's so I said, this is a problem. I can read it out right now. Do you want me to read it out?
Speaker 1:
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No, I don't. No, it's not necessary. I don't think that's. I like this .
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Isn't it amazing . So here's how it works,
Speaker 1:
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But I know my credit card number. Like I know it I've known .
Speaker 2:
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How could you know? It changes every two years.
Speaker 1:
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No . For three years. Expiry date changes every two years. Is
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That right? I don't have that exp
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So
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What ,
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So how does it work? How does it work?
Speaker 2:
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So we have a , for every, for every two numbers, like three, two , uh , zero , zero , the each number from zero to 99 has a visual image.
Speaker 1:
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Yeah. Okay . Okay. Yep .
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And you memorize all those images
Speaker 1:
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<laugh> okay .
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So once , once you have it set up and you , you don't have your phone on you, you don't happen to have your wallet on you and someone's monkeying you and saying, give me a hundred dollars. You now have the ability to
Speaker 1:
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Right .
Speaker 2:
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Give them a hundred dollars . But
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You just , to them , you say horse donkey fish that works . And you're like, no, you idiot. Don't you get it? I'm telling you the number right now. Rachel gum lobster , lobster fish . Donky PSPU shark , shark , donkey , expiry, date , donkey dolphin.
Speaker 2:
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Excited to
Speaker 1:
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Sherry . Yeah . That's amazing. I just well, yeah, that's good, man. I'm glad that you remember
Speaker 2:
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That Suzanne summers is zero, zero. It's it's amazing. Like the ,
Speaker 1:
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That , that that's amazing. Well,
Speaker 2:
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This is great. I think actually, ironically, this , this topic worked out perfect . So I find it interesting. And I , I imagine from your reaction, probably nobody else
Speaker 1:
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Does <laugh> well, it is it not ? No , I think this is like, this is just different strokes for different folks kind of stuff. Like I think that,
Speaker 2:
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Yeah,
Speaker 1:
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For people whose minds work, the way that your mind works, this is a good system. And I understand why it's a good system. It's a good system because it's like remembering birthdays. Mm-hmm , <affirmative> , it's a coordinate, right ?
Speaker 2:
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Mind you. There's an missing element. I have forgot to give you. You have to place these images in a , in a location. So for me, my credit card is an old man in the front driveway. Uh , Suzanne summers on the front patio, beside a hockey player, beside someone iron in a shirt and chess boards. And you just walk through the high , you see these images,
Speaker 1:
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Are you doing a bit right now? Or is this real? No,
Speaker 2:
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This is real.
Speaker 1:
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That sounds like total horse . So like,
Speaker 2:
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This one is true . Like , so it's like the driveway seen old man. And then on the stairs, he's got a compass. Right. And then the door, you open it up. That's an old man. Uh , and then you look in the closet, there's a chest board in the top. I
Speaker 1:
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Understand. Right. What you're saying is that your brain works with stories. And if you can turn the story into coordinates and it's a map to decode the number mm-hmm <affirmative>, then you can sort of abstract all the numbers time .
Speaker 2:
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That's tons of information,
Speaker 1:
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Right? Um ,
Speaker 2:
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Isn't this fascinating. This is a fascinating conversation.
Speaker 1:
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Well, I can actually hear people. Oh , hang on, mark . As played unsubscribe. <laugh> donkey dolphin, crocodile. They're out. <laugh> they're done. They're it's over . We had a good ,
Speaker 2:
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I , I have so much more that I wanted to , to talk about with this like technology and how it's gonna impact memory. And does it mean, what does it mean to be small or human? If you can look everything up.
Speaker 1:
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Okay. So carry on. Oh, okay. So yeah, go for it.
Speaker 2:
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Okay. So, because we've already had this conversation in our last podcast where we talked about , uh , Chris rock and , uh , will Smith. And I asked, did you hear about,
Speaker 1:
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Sorry, sorry, sorry , sorry. Sorry. We talked about this. I said we shouldn't talk about current events because nobody gives a about our opinion about current friends . Listen, we're lucky that anybody's listening to this at all. For any reason whatsoever
Speaker 2:
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Long lost friends.
Speaker 1:
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No . Nobody cares about what you have to say about anything or what I have to say even less. Okay. So anyway, so it's true.
Speaker 2:
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that. Yeah . Okay . All right . Right . So this idea of that, you, you never have to remember what we're talking about. If we just talk with something in current event time , it's, it's not like, did you hear about, did you, did you read about, you know, you know the thing?
Speaker 1:
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Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
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Right. What ? Yeah. So that whole thing is that old thing is gone . Where did you hear? Robin Williams was dead. You don't ask that question anymore.
Speaker 1:
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Well, because he's been dead for six years. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
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<laugh>
Speaker 1:
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That's you don't ask anymore .
Speaker 2:
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I'm
Speaker 1:
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Wow . I thought he was taking some time away from acting <laugh> yeah. Taking some time away by
forever .
Speaker 2:
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Yeah . Okay . So the point I'm trying to make, not so well, but the , the point that the, as I'm , we're going towards the iceberg is
Speaker 1:
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Yes.
Speaker 2:
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There'll be a time where there is no delay between you looking something up and knowing it. And then what does that happen? What happens then?
Speaker 1:
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So like,
Speaker 2:
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Can you explain what I just said? Because I'm , I don't think it was clear, but you seem to understand somehow.
Speaker 1:
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Yeah, I do. We're talking about deeply integrated technology and humanity, so that it's almost linked to my consciousness where I can just think , oh, how many people live in Aruba ? And then <affirmative> Wikipedia is pulled up instantly by my , my brain or something attached to me. And , and I go , it's 300,000 people. Right, right. Yes. That could happen. And then what does that even mean at that point?
Speaker 2:
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The , the PA pace of change in which it starts to happen will happen so quickly. It's I think it's called a singular singularity if I recall. Correct. Um,
Speaker 1:
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That sounds like something you , you made up, but yeah. So anyway, let's, let's look at the current trends in technology and who's doing well, like, look at content creators. Mm-hmm <affirmative> people who are able to like cleverly link one thing in another that shouldn't link and be funny or entertaining with it . Probably all moving towards content. They'll be some technologists in the background who are affecting these interfaces and these integrations. And then they'll be just like millions of comedians. <laugh>
Speaker 2:
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Yeah . So I don't know , like, this is, this is a , something I'm worried about it a little bit. Cause my kids are gonna grow up and they're not gonna have a house they're gonna be broke. They can't afford and they'll need to be able to have buy the computer that thinks for them , or maybe they won't, maybe they'll be taking care of mother , these super intelligence that will just , you know, wipe their asses when they're older. I don't know.
Speaker 1:
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Why are you worried about those things? Um, I don't worry about any of that. I don't care. I'm just trying to get through the day. I think that , uh, and, and you know what, like maybe that, I mean, it's, I mean, that's a textbook definition of shortsighted.
Speaker 2:
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Well, you , you can't do anything . It , so it may not be shortsighted. I don't know if it's and I don't know if worries. I used to, I don't know if I worry . I'm very curious in a way that , um , keeps me up at night. Well,
Speaker 1:
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That's, that sounds like worry to me . Yeah , yeah . Yeah . I'm curious in a way that keeps me up better .
Speaker 2:
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So ,
Speaker 1:
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Um, you know what, Troy, today I had a lot of fun. I've gotta go.
Speaker 2:
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You gotta go. Um , you got , you always gotta go. Yeah ,
Speaker 1:
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I gotta go . I gotta go .
Speaker 2:
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This is the way gotta go . You , I
Speaker 1:
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Gotta, I gotta wash my hair. I gotta , I got so many things you gotta things
Speaker 2:
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To do .
Speaker 1:
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Ironically, I can't remember what we talked about. <laugh> But , um, cool , man . I just want to tell everybody until next time ring, of course, cow . Thanks . <laugh>
Speaker 2:
12:36
Very deep.
Speaker 1:
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Very
Speaker 2:
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Deep. 42 . Very deep 42 . Yeah .
Speaker 1:
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Yeah. There you
Speaker 2:
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Go. Okay, man, that was nice seeing . Yeah . Really fun.
Speaker 1:
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You too. Uh , I guess , uh, we'll we'll say goodbye and uh, maybe we'll , uh, we'll do it again to week .
Speaker 2:
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Cool , man. So ,
Speaker 1:
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Uh , All right , Troy, have a good week.
Speaker 2:
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Thanks Connor . See you , man . That was fun .
Speaker 1:
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Yeah. Awesome .