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Astrology isn't just about signs and symbols.
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It's a tool for navigating real life.
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Hello and welcome to Astrology with Alisa.
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I'm your host, Alisa Dixon, and I'm so glad you're here.
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Let's dive in.
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Today I'm sharing another conversation from Norwac.
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This one is with Devin Rochelle, a Hellenistic astrologer who I was so excited to meet because we discovered that we both live in Ohio and not very far from each other either.
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Devin has this amazing way of making ancient astrology feel practical and relevant to our everyday lives.
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And I love her philosophy that we don't study astrology just to get better at astrology, we study it to get better at life.
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I couldn't agree more.
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One quick note: I also have a video version of this conversation up on my YouTube channel.
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So if you'd rather watch than listen, I've got the link for you in the show notes.
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All right, I hope you enjoy my conversation with Devin.
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All right, hello, this is Elisa Dixon, and I am super excited.
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I just met a brand new friend at Norwac, a fellow astrologer who um lives in Ohio like me.
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We just realized that we're super close, and now I've got an astrologer friend in my backyard.
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I'm so excited.
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Me too.
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I'm also very excited.
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I know.
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So I was just doing another interview, and I was like, you know what?
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I'm gonna interview you.
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So um, one of the biggest things that I'm super passionate about is um astrology in real life.
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Telling practical stories about how it shows up in real life.
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So that's the main thing I want to hear from you right now.
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How do you personally use astrology in your everyday life?
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I love this question, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna say two different answers.
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One is more general and one is a little bit more practical for my earth signs out there that are listening.
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The general is that astrology has completely shaped the way that I see the world.
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Like I cannot look at a situation without thinking, oh, that is such a Saturnian moment.
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Or that person is so mercurial.
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The way they keep asking questions are so curious.
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And I feel like it's become not only my spiritual path, my way of life, but it's completely my worldview.
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So it shows up in every thought I have, every dream.
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Uh, so that's kind of the overarching, and the more practical is that I do look at the transits, you know, where the planets are every day, and specifically the moon, you know, the moon changing signs every two and a half days.
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I really like to align my tasks, my routines with whatever sign and house of my chart the moon is lighting up.
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So that's kind of a quick practical tip, but it's shifted my world in every way.
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I let same.
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When I I joke that like once you rabbit hole, like once you see, there's no unseeing.
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I completely agree.
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Yes, and and my dear husband, you know, bless his heart.
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He has listened to me yap about this for years, and I feel like it's part of his worldview too.
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Yeah.
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And having that shared lingo is is really nice.
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It's funny.
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My husband's always like, because I'll I'll be on and on and on about something, and he's like, Well, what does that mean?
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And I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot.
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That's why, like, here at Norwac, I'm actually able to be like, Well, yeah, because you know, my Mercury and Pisces, I don't even have to explain.
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Exactly.
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We can talk shop.
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Yeah, everybody knows it's like so amazing.
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Yeah.
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I agree completely.
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Oh my gosh, I love it.
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Okay, so second question.
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Yeah.
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Which planet has caused the most chaos in your life?
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Okay, this one is a quick and easy answer for me.
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So for those who are listening who may or may not know or use this technique, there's something called sect in astrology.
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If you have a day chart or night chart, I have a night chart, which means that Saturn is my more challenging planet.
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And it is so true.
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Funny enough, with us doing this podcast, I have Saturn in the part of the chart that, you know, talks about your audience, your following, your community, your social network.
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And my goodness, growing my social network has been a painstakingly slow pursuit.
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Yeah.
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And yet it is tied into my
career.
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It is tied into everything in my chart.
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And so it's brought a lot of need for patience, which is not always my strong suit.
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Not at all mine.
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So I suppose that is the planet that has uh wreaked havoc in my life.
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I love it.
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Yeah, yeah, I love it.
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I also have a night chart, um, Saturn, but my Saturn is exalted in Libra.
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Oh, good for you.
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My Saturn is fallen in Aries.
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So my gosh, so you're having your Saturn return.
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Yeah.
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Welcome.
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Yeah, thank you.
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That's why it's reaching wreaking havoc on your life right now.
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I know.
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But I feel like I've been waiting for this moment for years, so I'm ready for it.
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Let's just hit the top of the mountain so I can come down.
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Okay.
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Let's do it.
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Well, you've got two years, two more years to do it.
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Let's rally.
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I'm ready.
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Oh my god.
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All right.
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Well, I'll help you through it.
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Thank you.
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I appreciate that.
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Oh my god.
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All right.
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So, what is your favorite astrology topic to talk about lately?
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My favorite astrology topic lately has been the chart ruler.
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So the planet that rules or manages your rising sign.
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The way that I like to talk about it, I like to tell my clients that your birth chart is kind of like a board game and that your chart ruler, the planet that rules your rising sign, is the only pawn in the game that is yours and only yours.
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And I love talking about the chart ruler with clients because as you go deeper and deeper into the sign, the houses, the aspects, they realize that is them.
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That is their life story, that is where they naturally find themselves.
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So that is currently my obsession, and all of my clients hear about it for at least 20 minutes.
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Oh my God, I love it.
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Me too.
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It's it's very well, and actually you'll appreciate that.
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My Saturn is my chart ruler.
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Oh Saturn life lessons through and through every day.
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I will just I'm like, oh, I'll I'll help you through that Saturn return.
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I think very well.
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Yes, well, I would appreciate the help, but I'm I'm happy you're in touch with your chart ruler.
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That's really important.
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Oh my gosh, I'm so excited I met you.
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We're definitely gonna hang out.
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Thank you so much.
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Cannot wait to see you in Ohio.
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Thank you so much.