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Speaker 1: Hey, I ain't gonna lie, that was hard. Pause. Stop that bullshit right there.
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Speaker 2: I ain't crashed out too many times. He's fucking deflecting.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so what are we talking about, Theo? Stevie, you're pissing me off.
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Speaker 3: Why? You're pissing me off.
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Speaker 2: And when we beat their ass, we're gonna give them all a Baja Blast. MJ would be my goat to the day I go in the grave, niggas.
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Speaker 1: We all have a child inside of us, right? He said, you're doing the most. I said, what the fuck am I doing?
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Speaker 3: I'm like, what am I doing?
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Speaker 1: You should never ask that fucking question.
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Speaker 4: Hey, you gonna make me crash out now.
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Speaker 1: I'm getting sick and tired of you talking.
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Look. Yo.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good now. It was good now.
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Speaker 1: My bad.
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Speaker 3: Honestly, guys, we had a last minute cancellation. So I apologize, guys, for starting to stream late. Sorry for the audio, guys.
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Speaker 5: Didn't really get a chance to test it because I was running around.
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Speaker 1: But we're back.
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Speaker 3: We're back. We're back. We're back.
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Speaker 5: We are better. We definitely are better. He is on his way back, by the way.
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Speaker 1: Just everybody.
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Speaker 3: So it was not a number two.
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Speaker 1: It's number one. You can do it that quick. It's just drop and wipe and go. You can do it.
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Speaker 3: Drop, wipe, and go?
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Speaker 1: You took a shit?
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Speaker 4: Keep it a buck.
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Speaker 1: How the fuck would I take a shit that fast? You've never done that? No, I ain't gonna hold you.
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Speaker 4: The coffee ran right through the dump. So you took a dump?
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Speaker 1: No, nigga. That's trifling if I took a dump that fast. That's hemorrhoids. Damn.
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Speaker 3: We are back and we are better.
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Speaker 6: Make sure y'all download the better app and use promo code Baja. As you can see, the Commander's got that dub. Shout out to the Commander's.
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Speaker 1: Ray, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's not looking good for your boys. Not looking good for y'all.
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Speaker 4: You need surgery? It's a curtain call.
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Speaker 1: We'll get ready for next year. Yeah. Pre-picker of the day is... Oh.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 6: Kayla Williams. It's a big-time game today. Seattle versus Chicago. That's going to be a good football game. Very good football game.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a great football game. Easy pick. Easy pick.
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Speaker 6: Go ahead and lock that in. But we're going to get to the couch. We're going to see who's in the studio today. To my left, first team on Nike Tech. I'm okay with it. First team all racist. First team all he.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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The whole world finally sees how racist you are.
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Speaker 1: Apparently I'm a racist. That's the word on the street. Apparently.
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Speaker 2: Apparently. I don't know about it though. But first team all CB. First team all Hall of Famer. First team. First team Hall of Famer. He is your Hall of Famer's favorite Hall of Famer.
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Speaker 6: Charlie Villanueva is in the building. Across from him. First team all point guard. First team all Charlotte. First team all Bobcat. First team all Knicks. First team all Dallas Mavs. First team all Carolina.
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Speaker 2: Raymond Felton in the building.
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Speaker 3: First team all rehab too.
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Speaker 1: First team all new hip. Hip, hip, hip.
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Speaker 7: Ray Valacious in the building. Ray Valacious next to him. First team all Hong Diddley D. First team all low tops. First team all low shop socks. First team all hats.
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Speaker 1: Vietnam. First team all Blue Jays. Hong Dilly D is in the building. Let me ask you guys a question.
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Speaker 3: We had a little discussion before both of you guys arrived. He said he only wears his commander's jersey when they win. Is that some bandwagon shit?
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Speaker 1: No, but I wear it on game day.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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Speaker 1: I wear it the next day when we win.
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Speaker 3: I wear my J's jersey no matter what, win, lose.
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Speaker 1: Or draw.
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Speaker 3: Fair enough.
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Speaker 1: As you. But y'all lost. Yeah, yeah. Not I.
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Speaker 3: We for sure did that.
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Speaker 1: For sure. I think the chips and stuff downstairs. Shout out to Milwaukee, man.
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Speaker 3: Oh, shout out to the Brewers.
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Speaker 1: Shout out to the Brewers, man. First championship ever. Hey, but listen.
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Speaker 2: We got to pick Ray's picks from, oh, was it Friday?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they weren't pretty.
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Speaker 1: Let's look at the, damn, Ray.
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Speaker 4: That was a missile.
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Speaker 1: Oh, shit. That was a missile, too. That's tough. Hey, the best team in the league right now is Memphis Grizzlies.
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Speaker 4: And say no.
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Speaker 3: 9-1-1, Shelby Drive. 9-1-1.
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Speaker 4: Say no.
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Speaker 1: Nobody's saying that. They are undefeated. They got the best record, right?
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Speaker 4: They are undefeated. They are undefeated.
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Speaker 3: Y'all was roasting Tony when he said they'd go 500. They're not going 500. They probably won't. I'm just saying.
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Speaker 1: You think they're going to go under 500? For the year? Yeah. I don't know, Theo.
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Speaker 5: I think they'll win 30, 35 games.
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Speaker 1: You want to put money on it? That what?
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Speaker 4: That they win how many games? They do not go 500 for the year. They go below that?
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Speaker 1: Yes. 100%.
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Speaker 2: Oh.
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Speaker 4: I'm with you.
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Speaker 1: I thought you
were Greek. You don't think they win 40-something games? No.
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Speaker 3: What the fuck, Ray?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I mean, he. Ray, you seen their schedule? It's very favorable in the beginning for them. I get it. Ray. That's a lot of confidence. They played.
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Speaker 4: Utah twice.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 4: And shout out to Utah.
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Speaker 1: Sacramento.
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Speaker 3: They beat Portland.
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Speaker 1: Portland.
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Speaker 3: And they beat the Warriors.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: The Warriors are 4-3.
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Speaker 1: Warriors is good.
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Speaker 3: So, like, they beat two good teams.
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Speaker 1: No, don't do that. The Warriors is playing better.
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Speaker 3: The Warriors beat thing with Yaxel yesterday. No Steph or Dre.
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Speaker 4: They beat who?
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Speaker 3: Who did they beat yesterday?
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Speaker 1: Clippers. Clippers.
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Speaker 3: Without their two best players.
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Speaker 4: Where we had a Clippers on our list. They were down there with the Warriors.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Yaxel's good.
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Speaker 4: Y'all still can play.
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Speaker 3: But you don't have Steph or Dre and you beat them. That still means something. I'll give them that. Listen, Warriors are playing better. Let's go to Ray's picks for today. Ray, we got to have a great start to the week.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, get them.
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Speaker 2: Because it's the first and we know motherfuckers got to pay their rent. Take them down. So, let's get right to it. Ray, Shea, Gilgis, Alexander.
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Speaker 1: Who do they play?
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Speaker 3: They play Cleveland.
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Speaker 1: In Cleveland. It's spooky for OKC right now. Yeah, it's been bad. It's been bad. To the point where he has to do more.
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Speaker 2: Huh?
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Speaker 1: He has to get that. If they're going to win.
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Speaker 3: But now you can really compare Shea and Luka.
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Speaker 1: They lost their last game, right?
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Speaker 2: Huh?
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Speaker 1: They lost their last game.
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Speaker 3: They lost to Dallas, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to come ready to play. I'm going to say Moore.
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Speaker 5: OK.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say Moore. Shea, Moore, Donovan Mitchell, clearly they're playing OKC. He had a bad game last year.
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Speaker 5: No, Donovan's not been great.
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Speaker 1: He has not been playing well.
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Speaker 3: So his last five games, 22 points, then 26, then 19, then 22, and then 15.
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Speaker 5: He's due for a game over 23, but.
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Speaker 1: What's up to Ray?
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Speaker 4: What you thinking, Ray?
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Speaker 1: Against OKC, more.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 4: Tyrese Maxey, who they playing?
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Speaker 5: Let me double check.
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Speaker 3: Tyrese Maxey is playing the Bulls. The Bulls.
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Speaker 1: Might be a blowout. It might be. It will be.
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Speaker 3: But it's 31 and a half points and assists.
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Speaker 1: There's a reason why they did that. Might be a blowout. Then you got LeBron. All those guys are playing, right? JB's out? JB's out.
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Speaker 3: I don't know why JB's still picked, but let me double check.
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Speaker 2: He played against Charlotte, which is weird. They said he was out for life.
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Speaker 1: No, they did. They did.
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Speaker 5: I think Joel is back. Yeah, because they were back-to-back.
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Speaker 1: Everybody's back.
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Speaker 3: No, he's questionable.
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Speaker 1: And Dominic Barlow's out.
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Speaker 3: But the injury part right now is Joel is questionable and Dominic Barlow's out.
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Speaker 1: So I think Braun is playing. Philly going to be scary, bro. Man.
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Speaker 2: They're scary basketball team. And that, I'll come back to Maxie. Let's go to Trae Young. Who they play?
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Speaker 1: Double check for you. Trae Young. Let me go ahead and give them this.
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Speaker 3: They play Indiana. No, sorry. That's in, I'm tripping.
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Speaker 1: I'm tripping.
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Speaker 5: They play Orlando. They play Orlando.
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Speaker 1: He thought he was still with Atlanta. They play Orlando Magic. Orlando Magic in Orlando.
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Speaker 6: 29 and a half points and an assist.
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Speaker 1: He's been getting that pretty easy, though, because he's been getting double-doubles. Mm-hmm. North Carolina plays pretty good defense. I'm going to go less on this one. Less. Less. 38-and-a-half, they play the Hornets, Kay Cunningham. Points, rebounds, and assists?
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 1: They play the Hornets in Charlotte. More.
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Speaker 3: Ray, by the way, just so you know, the only time Trae Young has been below that is that one game we picked against him last week. So five games ago, it was 34 on Trae Young. Then Chicago was 34. Then Charlotte was 32. Then Cleveland, the one we picked on, was 22. And then last game was 30.
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Speaker 5: So, just so you know.
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Speaker 1: We'd be in hell right now.
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Speaker 5: You want to stick with Les on Trey?
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Speaker 1: Against Orlando? In Orlando?
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Speaker 3: No Suggs.
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Speaker 1: No Suggs.
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Speaker 5: They got Anthony Black on him.
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Speaker 1: Anthony Black.
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Speaker 3: Anthony Black is going to guard AJ or Trey?
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Speaker 1: I might go more, right? Me personally. This is your... I might go more too. It's okay. It's okay.
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Speaker 6: Jalen Brunson, they play the Brooklyn Nets who are coming off a back-to-back. They got a dub yesterday in Indiana.
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Speaker 1: Was that their first one? Oh, yeah. The Knicks play Brooklyn Nets? Yes.
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Speaker 3: Oh, more.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 1: New York versus New York. Why'd you say it like that?
Because New York versus New York, that's a one. Yeah, I feel that. He's going to get to it. To more. Now I'm not disrespecting the Brooklyn Nets.
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Speaker 4: Tyrese Maxey?
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to Tyrese Maxey. I'm going to switch it. I'm going to go Maxie less, Trey Young more. I always want to go Maxie less because LeBron and I have been playing. So he ain't going to have to do as much, and they are playing the Chicago Bulls.
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Speaker 3: But hasn't he been getting to it?
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Speaker 1: How much Maxie averaged though, right? His average is about 28. 28. So if he averaged 28. I mean, this is the average. LeBron had the ball a lot, Paul. He did.
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Speaker 3: I mean, so to be fair, his last five games, it was 30. Maxie Evers. 33, 31, 31, and 42. He's really been on the cusp every single game.
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Speaker 5: Maxie.
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Speaker 1: Who's the best player in Philly? Tyrese Maxie, I would say. Maxie's team. It's his team. Thank you. Okay. Now you're saying. Put more for all of them. Thank you. Fuck it.
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Speaker 3: I will say this, though. For them to win in the playoffs, he can't be your best player.
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Speaker 1: That's so false.
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Speaker 3: I think Joel Embiid has to be your best player for them to go far.
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Speaker 1: It has to be a guard anyway. Yeah. Yeah. It has to be a guard.
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Speaker 3: That's my opinion. Does that mean it's right?
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Speaker 1: That's my opinion. No, I'm just saying, though. You got to think about it.
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Speaker 2: When Giannis was the best player, who was the person getting the ball when the game was on the line to make plays?
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Speaker 4: Chris Middleton.
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Speaker 1: So it has to be a guard.
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Speaker 3: But the best player was still Giannis. I didn't say who gets your last bucket. The best player has to be Embiid, in my opinion. Because the best player was Giannis, right or wrong? He just wasn't the one getting you the last shot, right?
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Speaker 1: I feel that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I see what you're saying.
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Speaker 5: So that's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to... I got a question. Is Maxie better than Cade? No. I was just saying that people said that. No, he's not. He's not?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: Who are you picking? Well, you have statute of limitations. You can't really vote here. Is it debate or no? Huh? Yeah, it's definitely a debate. Yeah, because the way he said it was like.
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Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxie is definitely making an argument that he's up there with those guys.
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Speaker 1: Okay. 100%. That's all I want to hear. He's up there. He's not better. But he's in the conversation. For sure. He's in the room. He's in the room. Okay. No one's picking Tyrese Maxey over Cade Cunningham. Ain't happening. 6'8 point guard. 6'8 point guard.
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Speaker 6: Just like if Magic Johnson was sitting in that room, everyone's picking Magic Johnson.
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Speaker 1: 6'9 point guard. That's a luxury. Steph Curry.
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Speaker 3: Neither of them is Steph Curry. Are you comparing tire smashes to Steph Curry right now?
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Speaker 1: No, I'm sort of Steph Curry and Magic. Has Steph Curry averaged 30?
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Speaker 4: Yes, he has.
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Speaker 1: When he was on United's MVP, for sure. Oh, damn.
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Speaker 2: Before we get to, let's answer the Super Chat for the Valkyrie.
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Speaker 1: Oh, let's go.
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Speaker 6: Shout out to the Valkyrie, man, getting their first WNBA championship. I mean, they've only been in existence for two years.
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Speaker 1: Two years.
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Speaker 3: It's impressive.
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Speaker 6: That's impressive. Derek Mitchell, appreciate the $ 10. Congrats to the Valkyrie. for winning their first NBA title in their second year as an expansion team. Previously, the Milwaukee Bucks won their first NBA title in the third year.
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Speaker 2: Of expansion in 1970 and 1971. Shout out to the Valkyrie. It was a great series. They battled it out. Game seven, right? Game seven. First game seven ever.
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Speaker 1: Really? Really. Didn't I know that?
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Speaker 5: There's only been two last year and this year, the first year.
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Speaker 1: Big time.
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Speaker 5: Seven game series, so that makes sense.
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Speaker 3: But... Shout out to Gabby Williams. It's actually impressive to see her go from a role player to a superstar.
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Speaker 4: Shout out to Gabby Williams.
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Speaker 1: She went crazy.
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Speaker 3: She's your class too. Is she?
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Speaker 1: That's what Miles Turner says. He's close with her. Keep in mind, if you're in the league, you're nice, fam. You're nice. Even if you're white or black. If you was a role player and then you give them the keys on a different team, he's a stud. He got it. I mean, come on, fam. I didn't say a word. I don't appreciate.
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Speaker 3: You giving my flowers.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. Go ahead, man. I'm done talking.
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Speaker 3: You're actually not done talking.
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Speaker 1: Because you're up next, brother.
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Speaker 3: You are up next. I'll run the clip.
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Speaker 1: Okay, run the clip.
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Speaker 3: Let's run the controversial clip. A big shout out to Derek Mitchell, but let's run the controversial clip.
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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Ray.
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Speaker 8: I don't think in 2026, this might sound crazy, but I don't think in 2026 a white dude could be, I'm going to be real, could be the face of the league.
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Speaker 2: Why not?
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Speaker 1: I'm being honest. He don't play like a white dude, though. Because he's a black league, right? Okay. What the fuck does that even mean?
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Speaker 3: Am I lying?
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Speaker 1: It is. Am I lying? This guy is crazy. Let's talk about it. But let me ask you this, though. Am I
lying?
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Speaker 3: What does that even mean?
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Speaker 1: But let me ask y'all this, though. This is Black League.
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Speaker 3: Hold on.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it? If you take, it is. Majority. Majority. Majority is that. Majority what? Majority is that. And majority rules. My nigga. If you take. Stop the clip.
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Speaker 3: This clip was done.
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Speaker 1: This clip was done anyway. I'm getting cooked. That's a great picture of you though. That was in New York. Yeah, that was a great picture.
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Speaker 8: I'm getting cooked. I'm going to double down. I'm going to double down. At the end of the day, I see how it's my opinion, right, Ray?
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Speaker 1: It's your opinion. When's the last time we seen a white man face of the league? And don't say Larry Bird. That's the last. But they had a paramount with Magic. They didn't have to. It was just a rivalry. When was the last time a white man was single-handedly the best player? Larry Bird. Larry Bird. Larry Bird.
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Speaker 3: No, Larry Bird was the face before Magic got there.
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Speaker 5: Magic was there like two years after Bird, I think.
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Speaker 3: I think Bird was the face for the first two, three years.
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Speaker 1: You're right.
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Speaker 5: Now, here's the thing.
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Speaker 3: Has there been a white boy as cold.
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Speaker 1: White boy?
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Speaker 3: Has there been a white boy as cold as Cooper that was American since Larry Bird?
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Speaker 1: That's American? I mean.
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Speaker 3: Because we know being American matters to be in the face of the league, I think.
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Speaker 1: It does. It matters, but I think... And I said this. I'm going to say this again. I made a video of it. Well, first of all, I'm going to go over to the stream right here. You ready?
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Speaker 4: I love white people. Your wife is.
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Speaker 1: I'm not racist. Your wife is what? My wife is not white. She's not white.
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 1: Your wife's not white?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: You thought I was.
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Speaker 1: You thought I was.
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Speaker 3: White the whole time? No, but hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.
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Speaker 1: Hold up what?
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Speaker 3: Hold up, I got to ask this question. You said there are white Latin people and there are Afro-Latin people. She's a white Latin, correct? You said that to me.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: No, she's not.
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Speaker 5: Maybe Berto said that. I feel like someone said that to me.
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Speaker 1: You know my wife is 100% Cuban. 100. Both her parents are Cuban. I had no idea. So I... She was just raised... I.
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Speaker 3: No, no. So here's the question. Hold on, hold on. So here's the question. What are Spanish people consider? They're not considered white if you're born from Spain because we had this conversation.
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Speaker 1: No, but some
could be. Some... It's not white. You're Hispanic. But you... Not Cuban.
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Speaker 3: So then are Italians white? Because this is a conversation me preaching about. But that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, bro. I don't know. Let me get to my fucking story, bro. That's on me. I apologize. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 4: But she was raised by a white man.
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Speaker 1: Got you. Understood. But both her parents, biological parents, are Cuban.
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Speaker 4: Heard you.
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Speaker 1: Understood.
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Speaker 2: My fault.
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Speaker 4: It's all good. But anyways, since we're on that topic, I love white people.
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Speaker 1: You do?
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Speaker 4: My first nut was with a white girl.
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Speaker 1: What did he just say?
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Speaker 3: Did he say his first nose was white? Is that what I heard?
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Speaker 1: I thought, what the fuck? What the fuck? Why would I hate you? What is going on?
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Speaker 3: This shit is going so. This shit was a left field. That shit was. A left field. Left field.
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Speaker 1: White people. What the fuck does that have to do with anything? It has to do a lot. We all remember our first, right? Your first work. My first gym. Everybody's like, whoa. My first gym was with a white guy.
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Speaker 3: Mine was a light skin.
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Speaker 1: Why would I hate? Why would I be a racist?
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Speaker 3: Light skin, girl.
00:20:04
Speaker 1: Halfway, half black. So why would I be racist? You know what I'm saying? I'm not racist.
00:20:09
Speaker 5: That has nothing to do with being racist.
00:20:11
Speaker 3: That was your first one. You can still be racist.
00:20:14
Speaker 1: No, you can't. Yeah, you could. No, you can't.
00:20:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could. You definitely could.
00:20:16
Speaker 4: No, you can't.
00:20:18
Speaker 3: You definitely could.
00:20:18
Speaker 1: So I think very highly of white folks. I think very highly.
00:20:24
Speaker 3: The chat's saying, boy, it's out the mud.
00:20:26
Speaker 1: Boy, it is out the mud. Hold on. Hold on. Can I get my shit off? Go ahead. You have.
00:20:31
Speaker 3: You knew. You knew.
00:20:32
Speaker 1: White girl. Yeah, I sure did. I was like, go ahead. Let me get my shit off, bro.
00:20:38
Speaker 3: I love it.
00:20:38
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, listen, man. What a great Monday.
00:20:41
Speaker 8: Listen, have you guys ever walked into a room as a black man?
00:20:45
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
00:20:46
Speaker 3: Right? I clearly haven't.
00:20:47
Speaker 1: Walked into a room. Clearly he hasn't, but he has a lot. Me and Theo have.
00:20:55
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:20:55
Speaker 8: Have you ever walked into a room, right, and you realize, like, oh, shit, I'm the only black dude here?
00:21:01
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:21:02
Speaker 3: Right?
00:21:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:21:03
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
00:21:03
Speaker 4: So- Oh, at least 70 to 75% of the room is black.
00:21:09
Speaker 1: Yes, we
went to Carolina. Or white. And you're like, whoa. Right? Okay. So in the NBA, 70 to 75% is black. And you have the white folks, call it what it is. They run the league, right? All the owners are white. Yes. Jewish, white, whatever it is. Whatever you want to call it. Right? There's no way.
00:21:32
Speaker 8: When the room is 75% black, you're going to allow.
00:21:37
Speaker 2: A white person to be the president. Because I'm going to say it this way. But there's no disrespect to Cooper. Cooper is nice.
00:21:44
Speaker 1: No, for sure. So this is not coming out. Did you ever think you was going to see a black president? No, you're right.
00:21:51
Speaker 3: Let's keep it within sports. Was Tiger Woods not the face of the PGA?
00:21:54
Speaker 1: That's individual. That's individual. That's individual.
00:21:58
Speaker 8: No, what I'm saying is golf is an individual sport.
00:22:01
Speaker 4: I get you. It's not a team sport.
00:22:03
Speaker 1: I feel that.
00:22:03
Speaker 8: So, again, I'm going to put it out there. When was the last person we've seen? Okay, we can say the logo. The logo was white. I mean, yeah, the logo was white, right?
00:22:10
Speaker 3: He for sure undisputedly was probably white.
00:22:13
Speaker 1: Oh, Larry Bird. That's disputed. I mean, you could dispute that. That's true.
00:22:17
Speaker 4: That Larry Bird was the face of the league because they had to pair him up with a black person.
00:22:22
Speaker 8: So, all I'm saying is in the NHL, would we ever see in the NHL a black person be the face of the league? That would never happen, fam.
00:22:31
Speaker 5: If he's the best, you might.
00:22:33
Speaker 4: Wayne Gretzky could be black. They would never gave the keys to Wayne Gretzky, fam.
00:22:37
Speaker 5: How nice Wayne Gretzky is, they wouldn't.
00:22:38
Speaker 1: Yes. They wouldn't. If the numbers back it up. They wouldn't. If a white dude comes in and run this shit, he win a championship every year. How are the niggas going to accept that? Amongst the peers. They're just not going to accept it, fam. That's just me. How long did it take? I might be bugging.
00:22:51
Speaker 2: How long did it take for them to make Serena the face of Tennessee?
00:22:55
Speaker 4: Again, we're talking about individual sports.
00:22:58
Speaker 1: I know, but still. Tell me a team sport. Okay, football, maybe Tom Brady. Is he the face ever?
00:23:02
Speaker 3: MLB.
00:23:03
Speaker 1: Who's the face now?
00:23:04
Speaker 5: What about the MLB when they made Ken Griffey?
00:23:06
Speaker 2: Who's the face of the NFL today? Tom Brady's gone for the last, what, two, three years.
00:23:10
Speaker 1: All right, Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes will probably be out there.
00:23:14
Speaker 3: But typically, has the NFL had a black or white person be the face of the NFL?
00:23:18
Speaker 1: The NFL is a little different.
00:23:19
Speaker 3: Okay, but MLB, what about what Kevin Murphy was?
00:23:21
Speaker 1: I think that. You know what, Theo? I think that. But guess who a lot of people would probably say. People talking to me. I'm just keeping it real.
00:23:31
Speaker 2: I think Patrick Mahomes is, but who you think people would say is the face of the NFL right now?
00:23:36
Speaker 1: Take a guess.
00:23:38
Speaker 4: Are you going to try to say Josh Allen? No one's going to say that, though. He hasn't won shit.
00:23:43
Speaker 1: I understand.
00:23:44
Speaker 2: If he wins something, then it can change. But they want him to be the winner. They do, but he's not. Like, you still can't beat him. If the numbers back it up for a couple of games.
00:23:55
Speaker 5: What about Kaitlyn Clark?
00:23:58
Speaker 1: I'm talking about in the NBA. Kaitlyn Clark what?
00:24:01
Speaker 5: She's the face of the league.
00:24:03
Speaker 1: No, 1,000%.
00:24:03
Speaker 3: Who's the face of the league in the WNBA then, Ray?
00:24:06
Speaker 1: She's the face of the league. How y'all going to put that in front of a girl who got five dumb fucking indie games? I hear you. I hear you, Ray. Are y'all serious right now? Ray, I hear you.
00:24:16
Speaker 3: She's the face of the league, though.
00:24:17
Speaker 4: Yo, AJ Wilson, no disrespect, but she's fucking awesome.
00:24:20
Speaker 1: Listen, she is box office, and she's changed a lot for those girls. I can't sit here and say, what did y'all tell me about Allen Iverson?
00:24:32
Speaker 4: He changed a motherfucking thing.
00:24:33
Speaker 1: He changed everything.
00:24:34
Speaker 4: Taylor Clark has changed everything.
00:24:37
Speaker 3: Every.
00:24:37
Speaker 1: Hold on.
00:24:37
Speaker 4: I'm glad you said that.
00:24:41
Speaker 1: Ella Alderson changed that. But was he the face of the NBA then when he did? No.
00:24:46
Speaker 5: Who was the face?
00:24:47
Speaker 1: This is the first. MJ was still in the league.
00:24:50
Speaker 3: MJ was gone from 98.
00:24:51
Speaker 1: Kobe.
00:24:52
Speaker 5: Kobe was not the face in 98.
00:24:54
Speaker 1: Who was it?
00:24:55
Speaker 3: It wasn't Kobe.
00:24:56
Speaker 1: Who was it?
00:24:57
Speaker 5: It was probably Shaq or Allen or AI, right?
00:25:00
Speaker 1: Shaq.
00:25:02
Speaker 3: Shaq or AI.
00:25:02
Speaker 5: They were both sharing that responsibility.
00:25:03
Speaker 3: Am I wrong?
00:25:04
Speaker 1: It wasn't the white man. You right, we name a lot of them. God damn it, a lot of brothers. But again. But that's what I'm saying. No disrespect to Cooper, my comments might have sounded a little bit crazy, but it's me being real.
00:25:22
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't mean to jump the topic, but go ahead, finish you, because we got to get back to the Caitlyn Clark and Aja Wilson thing. I might be coming off racist, but I'm not trying to. I'm just going off what the basketball. No, I'm going off what basketball's showing me.
00:25:37
Speaker 1: You're trying to bring somebody else down with you. You're not. How is it questioning? No, I get what you're saying.
00:25:42
Speaker 3: He's
trying to sink the whole ship. He's trying to sink the whole ship, right?
00:25:47
Speaker 5: I know, yeah.
00:25:48
Speaker 1: He's trying to sink.
00:25:49
Speaker 2: Me with him.
00:25:50
Speaker 1: No, I get everything you're saying. So am I tripping? But if you go to the masses. No, no, no, no.
00:25:56
Speaker 2: If you go through these sales everywhere she goes, she's changed things since she's been in the league.
00:26:01
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that deal. But she's not the best player in the league. No. I never said that.
00:26:04
Speaker 3: That's not the face.
00:26:06
Speaker 1: I never said she was.
00:26:07
Speaker 3: The best player. Because she's the face of the league.
00:26:09
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:26:10
Speaker 3: When you think of the WNBA, you think of Caitlyn Clark.
00:26:12
Speaker 4: Is LeBron James the best player in the league right now?
00:26:14
Speaker 3: No. But he's still the face of the league.
00:26:15
Speaker 1: But he's the face of the league. But that's because of his body. That's what I'm saying. The body of work. No, you just proved it right. That's Andrew Wilson. No, right.
00:26:21
Speaker 6: You just confirmed what he said. LeBron's... LeBron's not the best, but he's still the guy. Kayla's not the best, but she is the one who brought... She has brought all the eyes to the WNBA.
00:26:33
Speaker 1: Hold on.
00:26:33
Speaker 3: This is a question for your pops. This is a question for your pops. I would argue, and I wasn't alive, MJ was the face of the league from probably 95 to 89 before he even won a championship. because of how good he was. He was.
00:26:47
Speaker 1: But that's Caitlyn Clark. But that's what I'm saying.
00:26:49
Speaker 3: It's the same thing with Caitlyn. MJ was dubbed to face the league before he won. I think it's the same thing here.
00:26:55
Speaker 2: No, because it's not because of her. That was because of Michael Jordan's game and then he just became just.
00:27:00
Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark's game. They love her game.
00:27:02
Speaker 1: No, I love her game too, but she's still not the best. No, she's not. Michael Jordan was the best.
00:27:07
Speaker 3: He was the best. He's right.
00:27:08
Speaker 1: Michael was the best.
00:27:09
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark is not the best, but she is good enough. She is up there enough where it's like, She's still respected to that.
00:27:17
Speaker 1: But as far as the... I guess we need to define what the face means. That's what I'm saying because.
00:27:23
Speaker 4: Does the face mean you have to be the best?
00:27:26
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Why not?
00:27:28
Speaker 3: You just have to be.
00:27:30
Speaker 5: To me, it's about branding.
00:27:32
Speaker 1: You got to have everything, brother.
00:27:33
Speaker 4: You got the whole package.
00:27:34
Speaker 1: And she got that. She has a brand, too. Angel Wilson has a brand.
00:27:38
Speaker 2: She does.
00:27:38
Speaker 1: Like, commercially, she does.
00:27:40
Speaker 3: But I don't think
if you go to a stadium that's on the road.
00:27:44
Speaker 1: She got five MVPs. She got how many championships? I get that. I don't think Kaitlyn Clark plays in anything but an NBA arena.
00:27:53
Speaker 3: That's the thing, though. If you were to look at sellouts on the road, Kaitlyn Clark has way more than Asia.
00:28:00
Speaker 1: And it's not close.
00:28:01
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
00:28:01
Speaker 1: See, that's what I'm talking about. We're talking about who's more popular. But we're talking about.
00:28:05
Speaker 3: The totality of who's popular. But that is the face of the league. Who's the most popular? Like, that is literally the face of the league, bro.
00:28:10
Speaker 1: But Aja Wilson is just as popular, bro. Exactly. I don't think so. No, I'm telling you. Not just.
00:28:15
Speaker 3: Let's go look.
00:28:15
Speaker 1: Let's go look. I'm around these little girls in AAU and stuff, and they like Aja Wilson, too. Agree? Just Kaitlyn Clark. They talk about Aja Wilson, too.
00:28:25
Speaker 3: So Kaitlyn Clark has 4.1 million followers. Aja has 1.5. I mean, that tells me.
00:28:31
Speaker 1: I know she got more popular. No, hands down.
00:28:34
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing that. She's definitely more popular. And she's the reason why these girls got more money. She's why they got private planes. All this stuff is all because.
00:28:43
Speaker 6: That just confirms everything for me of why she's the face. But I can't say. I can't say.
00:28:49
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to say she's the only reason because these girls, these girls has built this.
00:28:54
Speaker 1: No, she is the only reason. No, I don't say that. Not the only one.
00:28:58
Speaker 3: She's the main reason.
00:28:59
Speaker 1: She's the main reason. She moved the needle. She's driving force. She's not the.
00:29:04
Speaker 2: Only reason, but she is the one of the reasons.
00:29:09
Speaker 6: Their talent speaks for themselves. I've been a WNBA fan for a very long time, but as far as everything that came with it, It wasn't there until Kayla Clark got in there.
00:29:19
Speaker 1: That's just a fact.
00:29:20
Speaker 8: No, you're right.
00:29:21
Speaker 1: That's just a fact.
00:29:21
Speaker 6: And I give her that. And like I said, is she the best? She might not even be top 10 in my book. It's like best players?
00:29:28
Speaker 1: She might be top 10. She might be top 10.
00:29:30
Speaker 3: No, she's not the best player on her team.
00:29:32
Speaker 1: Oh, she is the best player on her team.
00:29:33
Speaker 5: Kelsey Mitchell.
00:29:34
Speaker 4: She's better than Kelsey.
00:29:35
Speaker 3: I didn't watch it, but a lot of people say Kelsey Mitchell is the best player on that team this year.
00:29:39
Speaker 1: This year. This year.
00:29:40
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:29:40
Speaker 1: This year, yeah, but I don't know if she's better. So back to my point.
00:29:46
Speaker 4: Give me more of my fault, Charlie.
00:29:48
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, at the end of the day, if there's a room where 70 to 75% are one ethnicity or one nationality or one, it's just hard. No, it's going to be tougher. It's hard. Like, think about it. No disrespect.
00:30:06
Speaker 8: There's 70%, 75% black people in the room. Then you have an Asian man come in and talk to those people.
00:30:13
Speaker 1: Are they going to relate? I think, well, I'm going to be real with you. They're going to relate.
00:30:19
Speaker 6: It's not far-fetched in the NBA for Cooper Flagg to be the best or be the face.
00:30:25
Speaker 1: I'm going to be real with you. I would love to see it.
00:30:28
Speaker 6: I get what your sentiment is. I would love to see it. But I don't agree with your statement though. I think Cooper Flagg can easily be the face of the league. I think he's that fucking good.
00:30:36
Speaker 3: But he doesn't believe it because of that reason. He's not saying he's not good enough. He just says he doesn't believe... Nothing about his ability.
00:30:41
Speaker 1: No, but he... Nothing about... But there's always an anomaly to things. He can be that anomaly. So how many white dudes... Okay, hold on. Have we seen that are fucking great?
00:30:50
Speaker 2: Has.
00:30:51
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this.
00:30:52
Speaker 5: We haven't seen any as great as him that are American.
00:30:54
Speaker 1: There's not one. You can't name a single one. He might be the anomaly.
00:30:57
Speaker 2: Forget the American part. You know, and I get what y'all saying about that. That part is true.
00:31:04
Speaker 3: Has.
00:31:05
Speaker 2: Has it just been like, hands down, we just 100% agree that Luka or Jokic has been the face of the NBA? Has that ever been a thing?
00:31:16
Speaker 3: No.
00:31:16
Speaker 2: We've always said there's been somebody else. Like, it could be Shea. It could be such and such. I'm not saying you're right because I ain't trying to down that hill with you.
00:31:27
Speaker 1: But you got a point. That's a point. I don't know what the point is.
00:31:32
Speaker 3: Cooper's in year two. In year five, if he's averaging 38 and 8.
00:31:37
Speaker 1: We're going to have a different conversation.
00:31:40
Speaker 3: But Luka's not American. That matters. You guys have said that yourselves.
00:31:44
Speaker 1: So it matters.
00:31:45
Speaker 4: So if you're talking about location, so now geographically, shit matters. I'm sorry. No disrespect to Maine.
00:31:52
Speaker 5: They're going to throw him into Boston.
00:31:56
Speaker 4: But you're going to have the face of the league come be from Maine?
00:31:58
Speaker 1: What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
00:32:00
Speaker 5: That don't matter as long as you're from America.
00:32:02
Speaker 1: What does Maine have? Bro, he lives in Dallas. Because it matters.
00:32:06
Speaker 3: He is in Dallas.
00:32:08
Speaker 1: You're right. He's in Dallas.
00:32:12
Speaker 6: When people think about Cooper Flagg, they're going to think Cooper Flagg from Dallas. And then they're
like, oh shit, and he's from Maine. Listen, he's going to generate so much support A, if you're going to be real, because he is white.
00:32:28
Speaker 3: Am I wrong?
00:32:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's right. No, no, he's right.
00:32:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's also the time we're in.
00:32:36
Speaker 1: He's right. Yeah, the time we're in. Okay, so is that not the.
00:32:40
Speaker 3: We're not saying.
00:32:41
Speaker 4: Listen, we're black men. We can talk about this shit.
00:32:45
Speaker 2: Of course.
00:32:45
Speaker 1: There is privilege. We're not going to say he's that good. No, he's good. He's great. I told y'all this from the beginning. He's a beast.
00:32:53
Speaker 2: He's that fucking good. Listen, that's one of our topics today. Cooper Flagg is the good.
00:33:00
Speaker 1: Listen, I think he can be. Don't get me wrong. He got a long way.
00:33:05
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, though, just to play devil's advocate and be on Charlie's side here, he has a lot to do.
00:33:12
Speaker 1: 1,000%. 100%. There's a lot to do.
00:33:15
Speaker 2: He has a lot to do. We're not giving him that title. He's going to have to win, too. It ain't just put up numbers because we've seen people put up numbers. Who's going to put up numbers better than fucking Jokic?
00:33:27
Speaker 3: MJ didn't win.
00:33:29
Speaker 4: And he was a face.
00:33:31
Speaker 5: 25, 9, and 7.
00:33:32
Speaker 3: That's what his numbers look like.
00:33:34
Speaker 5: His numbers as a rookie are.
00:33:36
Speaker 1: Better than bronze. He's 19 years old, right? He's 19 years old. I have not seen a star. I've been a fan of Cooper Flagg since EYBL. He is a two-way player. I owe him an apology.
00:33:48
Speaker 6: He is a big-time two-way player. You can take that one down. He already getting cooked.
00:33:55
Speaker 1: I'm okay getting cooked.
00:33:58
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say anything like that. At the end of the day, Cooper Flagg is very good at basketball. I'm a huge fan. Been a huge fan. I've tried to put you higher up on our list.
00:34:08
Speaker 1: We will be re-ranking point guards and small forwards. Small fours, yeah.
00:34:13
Speaker 6: Reranking our point guard and small four later in the show. But Cooper Flag, bro, look, 33, nine and six.
00:34:21
Speaker 3: I didn't know he had that.
00:34:21
Speaker 1: Two steals, one block.
00:34:23
Speaker 5: I didn't know he could do that.
00:34:24
Speaker 1: People found it disrespectful that we put Cooper Flag in the same sentence as Larry Bird. I don't really give a fuck.
00:34:32
Speaker 8: We're talking about Larry Bird is.
00:34:35
Speaker 2: Larry's fucking bird. We're not putting him on the same pedestal as Larry Bird. Okay, so let's not do that. We can't do that. We're saying his potential is that level and more.
00:34:47
Speaker 1: That's what we're saying. But right now today, hell fucking no, I'm not putting him under Larry Bird.
00:34:51
Speaker 3: He has potential being one of the best players of the
league.
00:34:53
Speaker 1: He has potential to be better than Larry Bird. Yeah, that's what I just said. He has potential to be better than a lot of motherfuckers. Better than who?
00:35:00
Speaker 3: He has the potential to be the second best small forward of all time. He has the potential to be the second best small forward of all time. He has that potential.
00:35:11
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's there.
00:35:12
Speaker 3: He has the potential to be the second best small forward of all time. He has that potential.
00:35:18
Speaker 6: When you look at Cooper Flagg, he's the number one player in this year's draft.
00:35:24
Speaker 1: Clearly last year's draft.
00:35:26
Speaker 3: It's Kevin for me and Theo. It's Larry for you. You just said he could be better than Larry. He has potential.
00:35:32
Speaker 1: LeBron, KD, Lambert. Ooh, he got a long way to go, buddy.
00:35:37
Speaker 3: He got potential, though.
00:35:39
Speaker 6: We have these conversations. We have these conversations about these young players.
00:35:46
Speaker 1: Because of their potential.
00:35:48
Speaker 6: There's nothing wrong with us seeing the potential in somebody and comparing him to a great. Now, if you've taken somebody like, and no offense, I'm not saying, oh, Richard Shea was the number one pick. He has a chance to be. No, I don't see that potential in him. When you look at this kid play basketball, there's nothing he can't do. He plays on both ends of the floor. He makes his teammate better.
00:36:10
Speaker 2: He puts the ball in the basket and he guards and he affects winning. If he's not scoring, he can affect the other end of the court.
00:36:17
Speaker 1: That's a luxury to me.
00:36:19
Speaker 6: Like I said, Dallas is in great hands.
00:36:22
Speaker 1: They're in great hands.
00:36:25
Speaker 6: And the way the kid works, and Ray, I ask you this question every time. Every year you saw the kid play, he got better.
00:36:34
Speaker 1: Oh, man. From what we hear about him here in Dallas, he works.
00:36:39
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:36:39
Speaker 1: He wants to win. Mm-hmm. That's what he cares about. He wants to win. He's a winner. And people underestimate.
00:36:46
Speaker 2: I don't know why everybody talking about this Kyrie Irving trade type of thing. I'm not splitting Cooper Flagg and Kyrie Irving up.
00:36:53
Speaker 5: They kind of deaded it today.
00:36:54
Speaker 1: They deaded it today. Yeah.
00:36:55
Speaker 3: They said that.
00:36:56
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving and Cooper Flagg in the same backcourt is fucking dangerous.
00:37:03
Speaker 1: That is scary.
00:37:04
Speaker 2: I think Kyrie likes it. First of all, Kyrie likes it here. And then now he likes like, okay, I.
00:37:11
Speaker 1: Got me another. He got a killer right there with him. He got a killer, yeah. And he's young. He's still growing. Shit. Kool Flag is 20 years old, guys. Who's Darryl? Has he turned 20 yet? Is that Darryl Mack again? He hasn't turned 20 yet.
00:37:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he. Did he say something last time?
00:37:29
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm going to let him live. I don't really care. I don't care about getting called a clown.
00:37:34
Speaker 3: Sauce Boogie, I don't give a fuck what you say, bro.
00:37:37
Speaker 1: But, uh.
00:37:38
Speaker 3: Gotta keep telling us to change the topic. I'll change the topic when we feel like it. What the fuck you talking about?
00:37:42
Speaker 1: Yeah. Shut up, nigga.
00:37:45
Speaker 4: I'll say it for you.
00:37:47
Speaker 1: So, we had a debate before the show even started. We walked in. We was on that type of time. Luka Doncic. You wanna play the.
00:37:59
Speaker 5: Highlights or you wanna put the graphics on?
00:38:00
Speaker 1: I'll play the highlights.
00:38:01
Speaker 5: I'll start with Luka or JT?
00:38:03
Speaker 1: Luka. And then we're gonna go to JT after that.
00:38:06
Speaker 2: Ray.
00:38:07
Speaker 6: This is getting Toronto Raptors now. This is Scottie Barnes. This is 45-15-6 with five steals, eight threes, and.
00:38:13
Speaker 1: A Lakers dub. Lakers winning games. Luka going crazy. Five steals. I thought he didn't play defense. Yeah, he still don't.
00:38:21
Speaker 5: He was active in passing lanes, though.
00:38:22
Speaker 1: He definitely was active. So he escaped.
00:38:25
Speaker 6: Charlie, I'm going to ask you first, and then I'm going to go to Ray. Is Luka Darcy the best player in the league right now? Absolutely. And what is he?
00:38:38
Speaker 1: Is he white? He's the best player in the league. He's the best player in the league. I mean, he's damn near averaging 40. Am I lying, homie? What is he averaging? Look that up.
00:38:51
Speaker 3: It's right around 40 because he's averaging 37 going into this game.
00:38:55
Speaker 1: 37? Has MJ ever done that?
00:39:00
Speaker 5: He's averaging 38 right now.
00:39:01
Speaker 1: He's averaging 38. How many games are in? Six, seven?
00:39:05
Speaker 5: I think this is their sixth game, but he missed one.
00:39:09
Speaker 1: He's averaging 37. Don't mention MJ and Luka in the same sentence.
00:39:14
Speaker 3: What did he say?
00:39:15
Speaker 1: Hold on.
00:39:16
Speaker 4: Has MJ ever averaged 37?
00:39:17
Speaker 1: When you talk about scoring, you can put them in the same light. Don't you mention MJ. When you talk about scoring, offensively, you can put them in the same light. Hey, can I leave? Great.
00:39:29
Speaker 3: Go home.
00:39:30
Speaker 1: You can't be in that much denial, bro. He's the best player in the league right now. Yes. He ain't the face of the league. I know. He the face. Absolutely not. That's what you said earlier. That's why we argued. No, I didn't say the face. I said he's the best player in the league. But then what did I say? Hold on.
00:39:49
Speaker 4: Let me go back to this real quick. I don't agree with you. We're talking about the face, right?
00:39:53
Speaker 1: Who's the MVP?
00:39:54
Speaker 8: You guys think at some point if Cooper Flack keeps going in
this trajectory, right? Do you guys think that the league will ever look at him as the best player, the face of the league? Would the league ever not put out this schedule until he makes a decision.
00:40:14
Speaker 4: On where he would go?
00:40:15
Speaker 1: If he's that good, yes. LeBron did it, right? Yeah. The league waited until LeBron picked to go to Philly.
00:40:21
Speaker 8: He has a lot of work to do. That's why he's still the face of the league. So you think Cooper Flagg will ever be put in that position?
00:40:27
Speaker 2: If he goes to nine straight finals and he has four NBA championships and he has two MVPs.
00:40:31
Speaker 1: He has to go to nine straight finals in order to. That's why it's LeBron. He has a lot to do. That's why I said that. He has a lot to do. You act like it's.
00:40:38
Speaker 2: Listen, I get it. It's a far fetched thing. Does he have potential to do that?
00:40:43
Speaker 1: 100%.
00:40:43
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:40:45
Speaker 2: He is that good. Do you have to do a lot to be the face of the league? Yes.
00:40:51
Speaker 6: No one's disagreeing with that, but he is talented enough to achieve those goals. Just like when LeBron got into the league, we knew he could achieve everything that he's doing right now. I personally, Theo Pinson, personally believe that Cooper Flagg can achieve those type of achievements. I think he can be an MVP of the league. I think he can win multiple NBA championships.
00:41:15
Speaker 4: That's all I will say.
00:41:16
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. Because I think you're actually being very extreme here, right? If any top five player hasn't made the decision, he's holding up the schedule for them.
00:41:25
Speaker 1: One more time. Say it again.
00:41:26
Speaker 3: If any top five player in the league was not signed to the team, he would hold up the schedule for them.
00:41:32
Speaker 1: If Steph Curry wasn't... If.
00:41:33
Speaker 5: Giannis wasn't signed, if Steph wasn't signed.
00:41:35
Speaker 1: I don't know about Giannis.
00:41:36
Speaker 4: Have we seen it?
00:41:37
Speaker 1: Huh? Have we seen it before? Steph never left?
00:41:40
Speaker 3: No. LeBron is the first time a superstar hasn't made a decision within the first week.
00:41:44
Speaker 1: That's why.
00:41:45
Speaker 5: Most superstars make a decision within a week, right?
00:41:49
Speaker 1: If Steph... If Steph... Adam Silver is not holding... Steph, they will hold it for Steph. No.
00:41:57
Speaker 2: Steph's new team and he didn't wait at the same time as LeBron?
00:42:00
Speaker 1: He would wait. New team, you're right. 1,000%. New team, you're right.
00:42:05
Speaker 3: If Anthony Edwards was participating in another team, they would hold the schedule too. Y'all are crazy if you don't think so.
00:42:11
Speaker 1: If Kevin Durant.
00:42:12
Speaker 3: Would end up signing with LeBron, you're waiting. That matters. They would not have put Houston as a number one game last year if Kevin Durant.
00:42:22
Speaker 1: Didn't go there. Give a damn where you go, buddy.
00:42:25
Speaker 6: Kevin Durant, Stephen Curry, Anthony Edwards, LeBron James, they're waiting. Because if KD just signed with LeBron James and they put the schedule out before that, they would be.
00:42:37
Speaker 1: Like, fuck.
00:42:38
Speaker 3: If Shea was in free agency and he said he was leaving OKC, you guys don't think they'd hold the schedule for Shea?
00:42:44
Speaker 2: I feel like y'all crazy. I feel like y'all putting a lot of names. Something with LeBron James.
00:42:52
Speaker 3: It's not about LeBron James. It's about ratings.
00:42:54
Speaker 1: It's about ratings.
00:42:56
Speaker 3: It's a business.
00:42:57
Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?
00:42:58
Speaker 1: If Shea went to go fuck around and play with Minnesota, but Minnesota only had 20 TV games, you think they would have been like, man, fuck. We need to put more games for them. Adam Silver is only waiting for the face of the league. Oh, my gosh. And that was LeBron James.
00:43:12
Speaker 3: So if Wimby tomorrow says he's leaving San Antonio, you don't think he's holding a stake for Wimby?
00:43:16
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
00:43:17
Speaker 2: If Wimby joined OKC, you think they wouldn't wait?
00:43:20
Speaker 1: OK, cool. So that means if he waits, that means Wimby is the face of the league. You could change TV games. So why do you wait? For LeBron. I'm just saying. He publicly came out and said it.
00:43:32
Speaker 2: Like, we all know that. Even if a team, say he didn't know where Wimby was going, and.
00:43:37
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, shit, he went to fucking Memphis, and Memphis had 20 games and 15 games on TV. They could change that shit and make it 30.
00:43:46
Speaker 3: They can do that. But it's not about that. But, Ray, it's not about that. You're not going to change on August 15th. Let's just say August 15th, Memphis is playing on Christmas Day. Once the Christmas schedule is made, the Christmas schedule is made. You can change what teams are taught and actually televised. You can't change the opening game. You can't change the Christmas day. You can't change those games.
00:44:07
Speaker 2: I just don't feel like they're doing that for everybody outside LeBron. That's just how I feel. I think it was just too many names that was mentioned.
00:44:14
Speaker 5: But we've named the best players in the league.
00:44:18
Speaker 1: LeBron is the face and LeBron is LeBron.
00:44:21
Speaker 4: So Steph, no.
00:44:22
Speaker 1: I said Steph, though. Steph is on that level. Steph is on that level. Steph is on LeBron's level.
00:44:27
Speaker 5: So you don't think they changed it for Luka? If Luka was pending.
00:44:31
Speaker 3: Steph Curry's on the LeBron's level?
00:44:34
Speaker 1: In terms of viewership, yes.
00:44:35
Speaker 5: Steph Curry's the most viewed player last year on YouTube and social.
00:44:38
Speaker 1: Steph Curry's kind of took over a decade by himself. You're not serious. If Steph
Curry was joining a new team. Am I putting LeBron James and Steph Curry in the same sentence?
00:44:49
Speaker 5: In terms of viewership? And how you changed viewership?
00:44:52
Speaker 1: No, come on. Hold on. Do y'all know LeBron James is the most impactful, influential... Player ever. Player ever. Y'all know that, right? Oh, God.
00:45:03
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean Steph Curry can't change his schedule.
00:45:06
Speaker 1: What a fucking Monday. He can't impact his schedule like Steph Curry. What a Monday. Like LeBron James. Are you kidding me? LeBron James is fucking... I know it's the year 20... What is it, five? I know we knock him and shit. Let's not forget the work that this man has done. Nine straight.
00:45:25
Speaker 4: Did he say that?
00:45:26
Speaker 1: Nine straight NBA finals? Didn't he say that? I am right there with you. Steph do that?
00:45:32
Speaker 3: So just so you know, I just want to make this very clear, right?
00:45:35
Speaker 1: You're the first unanimous MVP ever.
00:45:38
Speaker 5: This is the NBA.com stats.
00:45:40
Speaker 3: LeBron James generated the most views with 2.85 billion views.
00:45:43
Speaker 1: Ever.
00:45:44
Speaker 5: No, last year.
00:45:45
Speaker 3: Steph generated 1.87 billion views playing half of his games.
00:45:50
Speaker 1: Okay. You're talking about now.
00:45:52
Speaker 3: But we're talking about today. We're not talking about your past.
00:45:56
Speaker 1: Because you got to put the whole shit.
00:45:58
Speaker 3: No, it's not the whole shit.
00:45:59
Speaker 5: How do you impact the schedule tomorrow?
00:46:00
Speaker 1: We're talking about tomorrow. Okay, so you can't do that. You can't do that. Your past matters. Your past matters.
00:46:06
Speaker 4: Okay, if it doesn't matter, I just said, is LeBron James the best player in the league?
00:46:09
Speaker 1: You said no.
00:46:11
Speaker 8: But the commissioner publicly came out and said, we're not making a decision on the schedule until that man decides where he wants to go.
00:46:17
Speaker 1: Got it. And was he the best?
00:46:19
Speaker 3: And Stephen Curry was in that same boat.
00:46:21
Speaker 5: He was in the same boat.
00:46:21
Speaker 1: You're waiting.
00:46:22
Speaker 4: You're bugging. You're bugging.
00:46:26
Speaker 3: Bugging. You think if Steph Curry said, I'm not returning to the Golden State Warriors, and he wasn't making the decision at the end of August, they would not wait for his schedule?
00:46:34
Speaker 4: Has anybody ever said, fuck all that, huh?
00:46:36
Speaker 1: I'm not even listening to you.
00:46:36
Speaker 3: This is unprecedented.
00:46:37
Speaker 1: Well, I need to hear the statement.
00:46:39
Speaker 5: He's going to say, has anybody ever said that a commissioner stepped out and asked?
00:46:42
Speaker 1: That's what he's going to say. All right. Has anyone ever on this couch ever said that Steph Curry is one of the best players to ever play this game? I've said that a bunch of times. I've said
he's the best shooter ever. No, no. Okay. No, I didn't say best player. No, I have not. Okay. So when we talk about best player, who are we mentioning? Ron, Kobe, MJ.
00:47:03
Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
00:47:05
Speaker 4: Steph Curry is in that conversation?
00:47:07
Speaker 3: No.
00:47:08
Speaker 1: If you think Steph Curry doesn't have the pull of LeBron James. Don't put Steph Curry and LeBron James in the same conversation. They are in the same conversation.
00:47:13
Speaker 3: In terms of getting views, they're in the same conversation. In terms of getting people to watch the.
00:47:17
Speaker 5: Games, they're in the same conversation.
00:47:18
Speaker 1: Don't do that.
00:47:19
Speaker 6: I agree that Steph is not a top 10 player all the time, but I'm going to put this out there. Steph Curry is just as influential to the game of basketball as LeBron James.
00:47:28
Speaker 1: As Allen Iverson.
00:47:29
Speaker 3: Huh?
00:47:29
Speaker 1: As Allen Iverson. Which is LeBron James.
00:47:32
Speaker 3: He changed the whole game. Steph Curry is more famous.
00:47:34
Speaker 1: Than Allen Iverson. They're in the same boat for me.
00:47:37
Speaker 4: For me. Culture-wise. Impact.
00:47:41
Speaker 3: Bro, are you going to say Steph Curry hasn't changed the game of basketball more than anybody?
00:47:44
Speaker 1: 100%.
00:47:44
Speaker 5: In terms of just the game.
00:47:47
Speaker 1: But you got to understand, Allen Iverson's in the same conversation.
00:47:50
Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about LeBron. Steph has changed the game more than LeBron has.
00:47:52
Speaker 8: LeBron is in the different levels, is what I'm saying. He's not in the same room, bro. Is LeBron James a small forward? Is LeBron James a small forward?
00:48:01
Speaker 1: We don't really know what position. Okay, but let's call him a small forward. Is he the best small forward ever? Yes. Okay. Steph Curry or point guard? Yeah. Is he the best point guard ever? No. No. Thank you.
00:48:12
Speaker 3: Okay, but you're arguing apples to oranges. We're talking viewership. And viewership, Steph Curry is on the same level as LeBron James. You can't debate that.
00:48:24
Speaker 6: I'm going to take it a step further. It's not even just viewership. In the game of basketball, these two guys can be in the same conversation.
00:48:38
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm not with you.
00:48:40
Speaker 6: In the game of basketball, bro, what Stephen Curry has done in the NBA is so influential.
00:48:47
Speaker 2: He changed the fucking game.
00:48:50
Speaker 6: You have more people trying to be Steph than fucking Braun.
00:48:55
Speaker 3: Am I wrong?
00:48:56
Speaker 6: Ray, you said it all the time. You got these little motherfuckers thinking they who? Steph Curry walking across half.
00:49:02
Speaker 2: Court shooting a fucking basketball.
00:49:04
Speaker 1: I'm going to change this. This dude is insane. But Theo, I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. What LeBron has done, his.
00:49:12
Speaker 2: His, his total totality of everything on the whole package, on and off the court, like winning stats. Like there's just, nobody's, nobody's on his level. Now, when it comes to changing the.
00:49:25
Speaker 1: Game, I think that matters.
00:49:27
Speaker 2: Steph Curry has changed it as far as threes, but no, let's not mention like his was, his was on James Harden, just the same with the threes and the step backs.
00:49:38
Speaker 1: And, uh, Nobody says Harden. We're not done.
00:49:41
Speaker 3: Nobody says Harden, bro.
00:49:43
Speaker 1: Come on, bro. What you mean nobody says Harden?
00:49:45
Speaker 3: No one says Harden when they pull up from three.
00:49:47
Speaker 5: They say Curry.
00:49:48
Speaker 1: They don't say Harden. He's the best shooter who ever lived. James Harden was in Houston.
00:49:53
Speaker 3: He created a whole.
00:49:54
Speaker 1: Kids was doing those step backs. No, no.
00:49:56
Speaker 3: James Harden created a whole crossover package.
00:49:59
Speaker 2: I've seen kids have an open three and take a step back instead of shooting a catch and shoot three and a step back because of who?
00:50:06
Speaker 3: But no, no.
00:50:07
Speaker 1: For sure.
00:50:08
Speaker 3: James Harden created a whole crossover package. You're right. He created a whole package.
00:50:12
Speaker 2: I'm saying like there are trends of things that goes on with the game. Now, Steph Curry had a trend and he changed all these kids in his world even to this day. And I think the game was going to evolve to that anyway, but he made it evolve quicker.
00:50:26
Speaker 1: So I'm with Theo and you on that. He did change the game as far as threes.
00:50:31
Speaker 2: But to put him on LeBron James, put him on that level, when some of y'all say LeBron.
00:50:36
Speaker 1: James is number one or even number two. So y'all say the past matters. That's what I'm saying. Who has been the unanimous MVP of the league? Name them. Steph Curry's the only one. He had a great year. Shea was unanimous. Was he? No. No. Steph Curry's the only unanimous MVP. There's only one. So that makes for one year.
00:51:00
Speaker 5: Hold on.
00:51:00
Speaker 1: There's only one. One since recently? No.
00:51:04
Speaker 5: He's the only unanimous MVP in NBA history.
00:51:07
Speaker 1: Oh.
00:51:09
Speaker 3: Steph Curry's the only unanimous MVP. LeBron is close, but then they gave that vote to Melo. I think you were there that year in 2013.
00:51:14
Speaker 1: Were you there? They said you voted. They gave that one vote to Melo.
00:51:17
Speaker 3: Oh. Do you remember that, Ray, where there's actually the New York writer that made a whole article on why he voted for Mello over LeBron?
00:51:28
Speaker 5: Nah, I don't remember that shit.
00:51:30
Speaker 1: During that time, I tried to stay away from some people.
00:51:34
Speaker 3: He actually put a whole newspaper article out on why he voted on Mello over LeBron.
00:51:38
Speaker 5: He went to go justify it.
00:51:39
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Yeah.
00:51:42
Speaker 6: Well, there's another guy that we also need to talk about there.
00:51:46
Speaker 1: Charlie wasn't sure if he could be a one. I'm on the same page. Well, Hong didn't think he could be a number one either. I did.
00:51:53
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum has been getting straight to the Baja.
00:51:57
Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Do they miss Jalen Brown? Their record is five and one. Five and one. Six and one.
00:52:04
Speaker 3: What have they played?
00:52:05
Speaker 5: Because that matters.
00:52:06
Speaker 1: They played the Knicks. I think they have played, well, they clearly played the Magic. Magic are okay. They played Brooklyn. They played Philly. What am I tripping? No, that was before.
00:52:18
Speaker 3: So they played the Bulls.
00:52:19
Speaker 1: They didn't play Philly yet.
00:52:19
Speaker 5: They played the Nets.
00:52:21
Speaker 1: Oh.
00:52:21
Speaker 5: They played the Bulls and they played the Knicks.
00:52:24
Speaker 1: And they played the Pistons.
00:52:26
Speaker 3: Their last four games.
00:52:27
Speaker 5: Have been against meh opponents.
00:52:29
Speaker 1: Got you.
00:52:30
Speaker 5: So let's put that in perspective.
00:52:31
Speaker 4: Why can't Jason Tatum be their face?
00:52:34
Speaker 1: He could be.
00:52:35
Speaker 5: Well, I was going to say this about Koopa. I think they're too mellow to be the face of the league.
00:52:38
Speaker 1: They're too mellow. Both of them. That's the thing I was thinking. Personality matters. Personality matters. 100%.
00:52:43
Speaker 5: I'm against Koopa.
00:52:44
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards is... Because the way he talks, you know, obviously he can't because he's not everybody like that, though. Not everyone is fond of that. No, that's true.
00:52:54
Speaker 2: But not everybody likes somebody who's just quiet either.
00:52:57
Speaker 1: No, I agree.
00:52:58
Speaker 5: That's a fine balance.
00:52:59
Speaker 4: There has to be a fine balance in it.
00:53:01
Speaker 6: I think, like I said, it's hard to judge who is the face of the NBA because LeBron James is still here. Nigga been here 24 fucking years and he been a face for 20 of them. So it's going to be hard to say, oh, He is taking the reins of being the face of the NBA. But Jason Tatum needs his credit. He deserves his respect. He sure do. Dudes begin to the Baja playing at a very high level. People wondered if he could do it. And he's just sitting here proving it every single night, leading his team.
00:53:36
Speaker 2: It's kind of weird because it's like the team looks like they have a different pop to me.
00:53:44
Speaker 1: PG has a lot to do with it. He's playing very well. He's a compliment. He compliments you. This is a question for you two.
00:53:53
Speaker 6: Do you think having that cloud over who's the best between Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum being gone is helping the Boston Celtics? Because you know how every team is like, oh, we got our clear-cut guy.
00:54:10
Speaker 1:
This is our guy. Right. And we just build around that.
00:54:14
Speaker 6: Do you think this is helping the Celtics or you think it wasn't that big of an issue?
00:54:20
Speaker 1: I mean, it took them a long time to actually win. And they won because they had other guys around them to take slack away from some of that stuff that was going on. Yeah. So you can honestly look at it that way and be like, was that always the problem? Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
00:54:35
Speaker 2: Like now you got a clear cut number one and you got other guys around them that know their position and know their role.
00:54:41
Speaker 1: Who are still very fucking good. Yeah. And that could be a more dangerous team than what they had when they won. Do you know what I'm saying?
00:54:49
Speaker 2: Even though that team was very fucking good that won. But a lot of those guys are gone.
00:54:53
Speaker 1: Yeah. So now, I don't know, man. I'm kind of rocking with you on that one, Theo.
00:54:58
Speaker 6: PG is a great complimentary piece to them. Like I said, he's playing his role. He ain't overstepping nowhere. He's like, Jason Taylor, we're going to go as far as you go, brother. You know what I'm saying? But that's addition by subtraction, right?
00:55:11
Speaker 1: No, for sure.
00:55:12
Speaker 6: And I think that's a great point. It is addition by subtraction. Everyone else knows their role. Everyone's playing their role. And there's no. And like I said, we're talking about it like the Celtics have not always been good since Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown been together.
00:55:29
Speaker 4: Like they've always won games. You know what I'm saying?
00:55:32
Speaker 3: Like.
00:55:33
Speaker 6: I don't remember a time they weren't even in the fucking playoffs. I don't think there ever were a time.
00:55:36
Speaker 1: We just never seen JT in this position. And that's the thing.
00:55:39
Speaker 4: It's like.
00:55:42
Speaker 1: All great things do come to an end.
00:55:46
Speaker 6: This was a situation where now these two guys are at two different parts of their lives, as you can clearly see when they talk about it. Jason Tatum is just able to show the world right now, hey, look, y'all had me fucked all the way up.
00:56:00
Speaker 1: I'm about to show y'all. And know that I'm for sure a one. Do we know, are we doing all the ones in the league? You want to do that or no?
00:56:11
Speaker 5: It's up to you, but I will say this, right? They barely beat the.
00:56:15
Speaker 1: Magic, right? For sure. I don't think the Magic are a bad basketball team, in my opinion.
00:56:20
Speaker 3: They also went down to the wire with the Nets. Let's reserve judgment until we see them do it against good teams. Because you look bad against the Pistons.
00:56:29
Speaker 1: I mean, 31 and 7 and 6, don't matter who you fucking play. The fucking Nets went to fucking Indiana and won last night. And we can't say that. Luka ain't play really nobody. No, it doesn't matter. No, I agree with that.
00:56:46
Speaker 3: But to your guys' point, you guys didn't say the Lakers are for real.
00:56:51
Speaker 4: Who said to say that?
00:56:52
Speaker 5: Early in the season.
00:56:53
Speaker 3: I got cooked early when I said they're going to win 40, 45 games.
00:56:55
Speaker 1: I said the same thing, too.
00:56:57
Speaker 3: I got cooked.
00:56:58
Speaker 4: I did.
00:56:58
Speaker 1: I definitely said they weren't.
00:57:00
Speaker 3: So my point is, let's reserve judgment until we see them face some good teams. If he's going to be able to lead his team, this team, like JB did against a good team.
00:57:09
Speaker 1: They play Houston tonight.
00:57:10
Speaker 5: So we'll find out.
00:57:11
Speaker 3: It's on a back-to-back. It's kind of a schedule loss.
00:57:13
Speaker 4: No, for sure.
00:57:14
Speaker 3: It's kind of a schedule loss, in my opinion.
00:57:15
Speaker 1: No, Boston.
00:57:16
Speaker 6: They got a schedule loss tonight. They played in Orlando last night and played in Houston tonight.
00:57:21
Speaker 1: In Houston. Night-night. He said night-night.
00:57:27
Speaker 5: The Pacers have been bad. That's what people are saying. Are they bad? I feel like the Pacers have lost most games.
00:57:31
Speaker 4: I've... No, Pacers have been.
00:57:32
Speaker 1: No one's in Alabama. Bernie's been out. Kelly went out. Yeah, yeah. Zuboff. And Zuboff. Those three guys that do a lot for their team.
00:57:39
Speaker 4: They're going through the same thing as OKC, man.
00:57:42
Speaker 1: Andrew Prones, man. That's a tough one. Lakers play the Heat tonight.
00:57:47
Speaker 2: They're 2-5.
00:57:47
Speaker 3: They're about to be in the lottery again potentially.
00:57:49
Speaker 1: Holy shit. Lakers play who? The Heat. In L.A. He's been playing better. He's been playing better. About 25 a game. Last two, three games. They stopped looking at this nigga playing one-on-one. Yeah, that's true.
00:58:01
Speaker 6: They've been putting his ass in the dunker. Both of them in the dunker. I told y'all he needed to go.
00:58:06
Speaker 1: For sure. I told y'all he needed to go, man. It's been better offense for sure. That one-on-one stuff had to stop.
00:58:11
Speaker 6: Shout out to Better. Make sure y'all download the promo. Download the Better app and use promo code Baja.
00:58:17
Speaker 1: We got a pick of the day. Game of the day. Game of the day.
00:58:21
Speaker 3: One sec. What happened to it? Why is it not working? Hang on one sec, guys. This is it. There we go. This is the best game tonight because, I mean, the best game technically was probably Houston-Boston, but on a back-to-back.
00:58:35
Speaker 5: So I'm like, this is probably the best game tonight.
00:58:38
Speaker 1: In Denver? In Denver. In Denver.
00:58:40
Speaker 5: It's a tough one.
00:58:42
Speaker 1: This is a tough one. This is a tough one. Denver is struggling. They had a big win the other day. They're not bad. They're 3-2 right now. I'm saying they're struggling.
00:58:51
Speaker 3: But they're 3-2. Don't the Blazers lost to Memphis too? They've had a couple bad losses. That's the one bad loss.
00:58:57
Speaker 1: That's not a bad loss at the moment. And Jaws out. And Jaws out.
00:59:02
Speaker 2: Losing to Memphis is not a bad loss at the moment because they're undefeated. The undefeated team in the league. It's not a bad loss at this moment. They're playing the best basketball right now.
00:59:11
Speaker 1: They probably are playing the best basketball. As a team, they're playing the best basketball right now.
00:59:14
Speaker 5: Do they still have that same coach?
00:59:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:17
Speaker 3: It doesn't look good for whoever left Memphis. I'm going to put that out there.
00:59:21
Speaker 1: Whoever left Memphis, meaning Jaws.
00:59:23
Speaker 5: It doesn't look good.
00:59:25
Speaker 1: 6-0. I'm just saying.
00:59:26
Speaker 5: And they're probably running his system.
00:59:29
Speaker 3: Ty Jerome looking like a– When you.
00:59:32
Speaker 1: Look at this team, they defend, they play hard, they play together. They got a bunch of young guys that just– What team? Memphis. They got a bunch of young guys that's hungry and they play together. It looks good right now.
00:59:45
Speaker 2: Now, like we all think, it's not going to be sustainable throughout the whole season. That's how we all feel. But, shit, I mean, you can say what you want right now. They look like one of the best teams in the league.
00:59:58
Speaker 3: But it might be like a Phoenix situation like last year. They might just play well together.
01:00:02
Speaker 1: Make the playoffs. Make play-in. That's true. What'd you say that happened? Play-off. Play-in.
01:00:06
Speaker 3: Make the play-in.
01:00:07
Speaker 1: They made the play-in. They could be like Phoenix last year. Play-off. They could be like Phoenix last year, bro. We didn't think they was going to be 6-0 right now. The start of the season.
01:00:17
Speaker 3: We also had.
01:00:18
Speaker 5: Come on, El.
01:00:19
Speaker 1: We always killing like, oh, man, they got $ 7 to get in the arena. We was doing all of that when... Still $ 10. $ 10. It still is. Yeah, I know. It still happens. I got his front row seats. 300, all of us.
01:00:34
Speaker 3: That day, right? On their opening day, Z-Bo's like, you want to pull up to the game tonight? I'm like, I'm good. I'm leaving.
01:00:40
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:00:40
Speaker 3: Because I was like, ugh.
01:00:41
Speaker 4: You didn't want no smoke with them. You didn't want no course hot.
01:00:45
Speaker 3: You think I want to smoke with the Memphis crowd after you guys are killing them for $ 7 tickets? I got recognized in Memphis, by the way.
01:00:51
Speaker 1: Big time.
01:00:52
Speaker 3: No, not big time. I'm just saying, you love to hear that story.
01:00:55
Speaker 1: You got recognized?
01:00:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got recognized. He's like, yo, you famous. You a celebrity.
01:00:58
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, I'm just on a
show. You're big time, huh? No, no, I'm not big time. Anyways, let's get to the pick.
01:01:02
Speaker 1: Charlie, who you got? Denver or Portland? This is a tough one to me. I don't really know. No job. I'm going Denver. Denver wins. It's Denver wins. Over. And Denver covers the spread.
01:01:21
Speaker 3: Oh, sorry.
01:01:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:01:25
Speaker 4: I got Portland winning.
01:01:28
Speaker 1: Over. Good, Portland. Going to spread. I got the same as Theo.
01:01:39
Speaker 3: Dang.
01:01:41
Speaker 5: All right.
01:01:41
Speaker 1: I got Portland winning. We'll do something. So, Alphonso? 50. 50 ball? We'll do a 50 ball. Yeah.
01:01:49
Speaker 2: Over.
01:01:53
Speaker 1: I don't believe that much. Heard you. 54 it is. Hong Kong. Write that down. Hold on. Hang on.
01:01:59
Speaker 3: Hang on.
01:01:59
Speaker 1: I'm making my pick.
01:02:01
Speaker 3: So Denver's spread is by four.
01:02:04
Speaker 1: No.
01:02:05
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm going to get Portland covering the spread.
01:02:07
Speaker 1: And Denver's going to win. That's all I'm going to do. Gotcha. Well, y'all know what to do.
01:02:14
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01:02:30
Speaker 1: Shea, more.
01:02:31
Speaker 6: Donovan Mitchell, more. Tyrese Maxey, points and assists, more. Trey Young, points and assists, more. Kay Cunningham, points, rebounds, and assists, 38 and a half, more. Jaylen Brunson, 24 and a half, more. They play the Brooklyn Nets. Who got their first win yesterday? Congrats to the Brooklyn Nets.
01:02:52
Speaker 1: They need that.
01:02:54
Speaker 6: Chat, y'all been waiting on this. Let's re-rank our point guards and small forwards. First, we will start with our point guards.
01:03:02
Speaker 2: Who are the best point guards in the league right now?
01:03:06
Speaker 1: This was our list. This was our list to start the year. This was our list to start the year. So, Luka 1. Luka 1. Shade 2. Negative. Shade still 2.
01:03:17
Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxey is the best point, second best point guard in the league right now.
01:03:21
Speaker 1: All right.
01:03:22
Speaker 5: So, undisputed Luka 1.
01:03:24
Speaker 1: Undisputed Lucas number one.
01:03:26
Speaker 3: All right.
01:03:27
Speaker 1: I got Shea.
01:03:28
Speaker 2: Ooh. How?
01:03:29
Speaker 1: I'm talking about two. How do I give it to Shea? I got to hear it. I got to hear it. How is Shea number two right now? I mean, he's still doing his thing. Even with his team being depleted, he's still doing his thing. We talk about recency. I mean, Maxie just won player of the week. He's still averaging 28 a game.
01:03:46
Speaker 3: 26.
01:03:46
Speaker 1: Maxie's averaging 29.
01:03:47
Speaker 3: All right.
01:03:55
Speaker 1: Me and Charlie got which guy? Who you got, homie? It's up to you. Who you got, Charlie? He
said Shea. You got Shea too? They've only lost one game.
01:04:04
Speaker 5: OKC's only lost two games.
01:04:06
Speaker 2: He's averaging 29.
01:04:08
Speaker 3: He's playing beside LeBron James and Jalen Brown and Vijay Ashcom and Joel Embiid.
01:04:13
Speaker 1: Y'all are telling.
01:04:14
Speaker 2: How can y'all have Shea over Maxie right now? As is today, how can you say Shea is playing better than Maxby? And he's averaging 29 points, and his team's only lost one time. Bron and B have not played every game. Theo, he's going up. He went from sixth on our list to number three. Listen, the ranking is who is playing the best right now. How did Luka go over Shea then?
01:04:44
Speaker 5: Because he is playing the best.
01:04:45
Speaker 6: Okay, so Tyrese Maxey's playing better than Shane. You got to hold the same sentiment for everyone else.
01:04:50
Speaker 3: That's your opinion.
01:04:51
Speaker 1: That's stat-wise, right?
01:04:53
Speaker 2: It's not stat.
01:04:54
Speaker 1: It's play and visually.
01:04:56
Speaker 3: You can see Maxey's playing better than Shane. Isn't Cade team 5-1 and Cade is controlling the pace and doing everything he needs to do for his team to win?
01:05:04
Speaker 1: That's a fact.
01:05:04
Speaker 3: Oh, my God. I'm throwing that out there.
01:05:06
Speaker 1: He has a good argument.
01:05:08
Speaker 4: He's... Who's the best player on the team? You're not convincing me.
01:05:14
Speaker 1: Who's the best.
01:05:15
Speaker 5: Player on the team?
01:05:16
Speaker 3: But his team is so good.
01:05:17
Speaker 1: Would they be there without Maxie?
01:05:22
Speaker 3: Would Shea's team be fucking 1-5 without Klay? What would Shea's team look like without Shea?
01:05:29
Speaker 2: Would Philly be there without Maxi?
01:05:30
Speaker 1: Their record would still be good.
01:05:32
Speaker 2: Their record would still be good.
01:05:33
Speaker 3: Which team is better? If you take Shea and Maxi off, which team is better? If you take Shea off.
01:05:39
Speaker 5: That team and take Maxi off that team, which team is better?
01:05:40
Speaker 7: Huh?
01:05:41
Speaker 5: Which team is better?
01:05:41
Speaker 3: If you take Shea and Maxi off both their teams?
01:05:43
Speaker 1: Philly.
01:05:44
Speaker 3: Exactly. That's the point is that he has a lot more help.
01:05:46
Speaker 2: So, we're giving Shay the nod because they're 5-2 and you're giving.
01:05:50
Speaker 3: Isn't OKC 4-2?
01:05:52
Speaker 1: No, you're giving OKC the nod because they're 4-2.
01:05:54
Speaker 3: And he has to do more with less.
01:05:55
Speaker 6: So, this is where I'm disappointed with Ray. Ray says winning. Your biggest thing is winning. Maxie's five and one and he's average of 29.
01:06:04
Speaker 1: But you have to look at the situation too. The man is six. The man is six and now he's going to three. I don't understand.
01:06:10
Speaker 4: So who you going with?
01:06:11
Speaker 3: He's doing a big jump.
01:06:12
Speaker 1: To me, Kade's three.
01:06:14
Speaker 5: I'm going with Kade.
01:06:15
Speaker 1: He's five and one. So it's Shea. You got Kade.
01:06:16
Speaker 3: I got Kade.
01:06:17
Speaker 1: At two? At two, you got Maxie.
01:06:19
Speaker 3: Kade is five and one too.
01:06:21
Speaker 1: Me and Ray got. Me and Ray got. At Shea. So Maxie, I'm star. So y'all moving Shea to four?
01:06:26
Speaker 3: No, Shea's two.
01:06:27
Speaker 1: Five to five?
01:06:28
Speaker 5: Shea's two.
01:06:28
Speaker 1: Oh.
01:06:29
Speaker 5: Because both you and Charlie voted.
01:06:30
Speaker 3: I don't know.
01:06:31
Speaker 1: Shady's two. Now Maxey makes the jump from six to three. I think so.
01:06:37
Speaker 3: Bro.
01:06:37
Speaker 1: Over Cade.
01:06:38
Speaker 3: Cade is five and one without Durant.
01:06:41
Speaker 6: I get that, but I still don't even put Durant in this. They don't got shit to do with nothing.
01:06:45
Speaker 1: To me. He's your second best player. Oh, gosh. Oh, no. But no, I got Tyrese Maxey three right now.
01:06:53
Speaker 3: Oh.
01:06:58
Speaker 1: My gosh. Maxie, I am sorry.
01:07:01
Speaker 3: I got Shea three.
01:07:02
Speaker 2: I am sorry.
01:07:04
Speaker 1: Maxie's a three.
01:07:05
Speaker 5: Maxie's three.
01:07:07
Speaker 1: Cave stays where he's at. Cave stays where he's at. Sir? Guys. How much KM? He went from six to three. Why is that such a bad thing?
01:07:19
Speaker 5: He's having 22, seven, and five.
01:07:21
Speaker 1: We're not doing this the correct way, fellas. He went from six to three.
01:07:26
Speaker 3: But you're only looking at stats.
01:07:27
Speaker 1: Can you put it in a voting poll? Can you put it in a voting poll?
01:07:30
Speaker 3: No, I know.
01:07:31
Speaker 2: We're going to keep Shea up there because this is our pick. Putting in a voting poll if Shea or Maxie should be the second best point guard.
01:07:39
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that, but you also ask. I understand.
01:07:41
Speaker 6: Just ask the thing. I get y'all's sentiment. Maxie is the second best point guard. No, it's two to one.
01:07:53
Speaker 3: I like winning. They're 5-1, and I don't think they got that much better this year. Who? Detroit.
01:08:00
Speaker 5: They lost Tobias.
01:08:02
Speaker 3: Jalen Duren's been out, and they're 5-1.
01:08:03
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this.
01:08:05
Speaker 1: People aren't sleeping on them. I got it. Revelations, I got it. Let me handle it.
01:08:09
Speaker 4: Okay, he's averaging 29. How much is Ty Jerome averaging?
01:08:15
Speaker 1: Twenty-six.
01:08:16
Speaker 5: Twenty-four.
01:08:17
Speaker 1: Twenty-six. Go look.
01:08:19
Speaker 4: I don't think he's averaging.
01:08:20
Speaker 5: Twenty-five point six, I believe.
01:08:21
Speaker 6: No, he's probably in the top ten. He'd probably be top ten. Not as well as I've seen Steph Curry do, but recently. I'm not taking Ty Jerome up. Steph Curry, he got me fucked up.
01:08:33
Speaker 1: Is Acuff in the top ten? No. He's averaging 25. He's averaging 25. As a rookie. Twenty-six.
Twenty-six. We go off for sitting. That's what we're going on.
01:08:43
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no. Look at Maxie's numbers. The numbers are better than Acuff's. Just because you average that, it's.
01:08:50
Speaker 1: Not like Maxie's not taking 28 shots. I didn't even put him up there with Maxie. Maxie's already on the list. This guy's not on the list. I mean, Tyrese is shooting 49. De'Aaron Fox in the list, Theo? Huh? No. We're not there yet.
01:09:07
Speaker 5: It's 5, JB, or Steph Curry. Are we moving somebody off the list?
01:09:12
Speaker 1: No, Ty Jerome needs to be on this list.
01:09:15
Speaker 3: I don't even have Ty Jerome's name here. So I'm going to make his name.
01:09:18
Speaker 1: He's not even going out. You're going to have to make his name.
01:09:20
Speaker 2: We ain't worried about Ty Jerome right now. He ain't in no top five, six.
01:09:26
Speaker 1: Top ten, though. Yeah, I mean, we can talk about that in a minute. Okay. Who's six?
01:09:31
Speaker 4: Who we take out?
01:09:32
Speaker 1: I don't see Jada Brunson. What is this voting, though?
01:09:34
Speaker 3: Jada Brunson's right here.
01:09:35
Speaker 1: Oh, okay. So who you got five or six? Steph Curry or Jada Brunson? No, it's Bernson's six. Bernson's six?
01:09:46
Speaker 3: He's been struggling a little bit.
01:09:46
Speaker 1: He's been struggling, yeah. He's been struggling.
01:09:48
Speaker 3: I mean, Steph Curry's kind of been in and out of games, so you could go either way.
01:09:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I put Brunson 6. But that show he just put on. Steph just had 40 the other night. I'm about to say that show he just put on.
01:09:55
Speaker 3: I mean, Steph's averaging 29, 4, and 4, and 48% shooting. How much? 29.
01:10:00
Speaker 1: Oh.
01:10:00
Speaker 5: So we could throw Steph at number 2 if you want.
01:10:03
Speaker 1: By your theory. He is averaging 29. He's averaging 29.
01:10:07
Speaker 3: Oh, no.
01:10:07
Speaker 1: How is Maxie? Stop talking to me.
01:10:11
Speaker 3: And he's averaging 29. Urgent. Urgent.
01:10:14
Speaker 1: Steffi Curry is what?
01:10:15
Speaker 3: They just got over 500.
01:10:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just got over 500.
01:10:17
Speaker 3: With who's on his team?
01:10:18
Speaker 5: Who's on his team?
01:10:19
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
01:10:21
Speaker 1: Tell them, huh?
01:10:21
Speaker 3: You talk about how people impact the game.
01:10:24
Speaker 1: You're 1,000% right.
01:10:25
Speaker 3: That's all I'm going to say.
01:10:27
Speaker 4: I would have Steffi Curry in front of the cage.
01:10:31
Speaker 3: Five and one matters to me, so that's why I have it.
01:10:33
Speaker 1: Five and one matters.
01:10:34
Speaker 6: But why is Tyrese not in front of Shane?
01:10:39
Speaker 3: I'm basing all of your argument on sports.
01:10:41
Speaker 1: Why do I have team number one?
01:10:43
Speaker 3: Because of impact and winning.
01:10:46
Speaker 6: You're not going to discredit what Tyrese Maxey is doing because his team's good.
01:10:50
Speaker 3: That's exactly why I'm discrediting him.
01:10:52
Speaker 5: That's crazy to me.
01:10:54
Speaker 3: You still have to go out there and fucking perform.
01:10:56
Speaker 2: He's averaging 29. He's never going to get up there because his team is that fucking good.
01:11:02
Speaker 1: So we shouldn't give Steph Curry any fucking credit for anything he does because he had Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green. No, that's your criteria.
01:11:10
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a rebuttal to it.
01:11:12
Speaker 1: When they added Kevin Durant.
01:11:17
Speaker 5: That Steph Curry had a shot at winning any MVP again.
01:11:22
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know.
01:11:22
Speaker 3: No, because his team was so good and they discredited for that. I'm doing the exact same thing here. I'm giving Cade more credit because his team is less talented and they have the same amount of losses.
01:11:33
Speaker 1: Tyrese won by a landslide.
01:11:34
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.
01:11:36
Speaker 5: Do they have the same amount of losses, Cade and Tyrese?
01:11:39
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
01:11:40
Speaker 5: Whose team is way more talented?
01:11:42
Speaker 1: Tyrese.
01:11:43
Speaker 5: That's why I gave Cade the nod.
01:11:44
Speaker 3: Okay.
01:11:45
Speaker 1: I'm cool with you on that.
01:11:47
Speaker 4: Respect.
01:11:48
Speaker 1: I can respect that.
01:11:49
Speaker 3: I can respect that.
01:11:50
Speaker 2: This nigga is cooking.
01:11:52
Speaker 1: Who?
01:11:53
Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxey is cooking. You're not doing disrespect. You're not going to downgrade somebody just because his team is that fucking good.
01:12:02
Speaker 1: You convinced me. You convinced me. You've been pondering the whole time, though. Go ahead and put Maxey number two, man.
01:12:08
Speaker 3: All right, so your vote has changed?
01:12:09
Speaker 1: I agree. He convinced me.
01:12:10
Speaker 3: All right. So Shay's not even here anymore. Okay, so who's number three? Because now if your vote has changed....
01:12:17
Speaker 1: I got Kade.
01:12:17
Speaker 3: He got Kade. I have Kade number two. I'm cool with Kade being there. So I put Kade number three.
01:12:22
Speaker 1: So now we got to let the people decide. Me and Ray going to pick Kade. I mean, me and Ray going to pick SGA.
01:12:26
Speaker 3: SGA?
01:12:27
Speaker 1: I got Kade. All right.
01:12:29
Speaker 5: Let's let the people decide.
01:12:31
Speaker 2: I got Kade and then Shade because, like I said, Ray, you are a guy that likes winning.
01:12:39
Speaker 1: You know Cade Cunningham. The man is still winning.
01:12:41
Speaker 3: He is 4-2. Everybody is hurt. It's not like he's bad. He's 4-2.
01:12:45
Speaker 2: Cade only lost one game.
01:12:46
Speaker 1: Everybody is hurt on his team, and he's still winning. Everybody. He lost everybody on his roster. What does that mean? Huh? He's been losing. He on a two-game, three-game losing streak? Maybe two. And then they play tonight?
They're going to win tonight? You think they're going to win tonight? Who are they playing? Cleveland? They got a chance. He just picked Cleveland earlier. No, I didn't. Yeah, you did.
01:13:10
Speaker 5: They're 4-2, guys. Like, we're not going to act like they're fucking losing a lot of games. They're 4-2.
01:13:16
Speaker 1: Cade only lost one game. What's the chart, sir?
01:13:20
Speaker 5: It's 53% Cade right now.
01:13:22
Speaker 1: It's close.
01:13:25
Speaker 5: We'll wait until it gets to 150.
01:13:26
Speaker 1: All right.
01:13:27
Speaker 3: So, 5-6. Are we good with 5-6?
01:13:29
Speaker 1: This is crazy how they forget. They forget so fast. It's not about forgetting. It's who's playing better right now.
01:13:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, but team matters to me. And how much you do with the team.
01:13:42
Speaker 8: If that's it, who's playing better now, then we're going to have to put fucking A-Cuff on this list. We're going to have to put Ty Jerome on this list. Hey, listen. We're going to have the A-Cuff conversation.
01:13:50
Speaker 2: If Tyrese Maxey loses LeBron James, Jalen Brown, and Joey B, then what?
01:13:58
Speaker 1: Yo, it's Cade.
01:13:59
Speaker 3: It's Cade.
01:13:59
Speaker 5: Looks like it's going to be Cade.
01:14:00
Speaker 1: It's Cade. So that's what happened to Shaq.
01:14:03
Speaker 2: So tell me what would Tyrese Maxey look like if he lost LeBron, Jalen Brown.
01:14:08
Speaker 1: Right. No, no. I agree with you. I agree with you. It's going to be completely different. It's going to be a little shit. He lost J-Dub. He lost Casey Wallace. These are three starters. Go.
01:14:20
Speaker 6: I agree with you, Ray. But is Shea playing better than Tyrese Maxey right now?
01:14:25
Speaker 1: Be real with me. No, no, no.
01:14:27
Speaker 2: So how can he be in front of somebody who's playing better than him right now? We can't just go off of what he's done in the past. Our ranking is about who's playing the best right now. The reason we got Luka in front. If we talk about totality, the reason we have Luka number one is because he is playing the clear-cut best out of all these guys.
01:14:49
Speaker 1: Tyrese Maxey is playing right there. Shea's not playing better than him right now.
01:14:55
Speaker 2: That's okay.
01:14:56
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean Shea can't get back up there.
01:14:59
Speaker 2: Now, if we come back two weeks later and Shea still only got like three to four losses, he's moving the fuck up because he's doing all this with all these damn injuries.
01:15:11
Speaker 1: You're right. Stephen Curry, I am okay with him being there. James Harden's falling out of this top ten. What's he averaging? I think it's like 12. Don't do that. He's still averaging 20, ain't he? No. Let me look. I'll look. Hold on. Let me see. I don't think he averaged a 20, Ray.
01:15:35
Speaker 3: 16.
01:15:44
Speaker 1: Him and LaMelo are going to be moving out. And Fox. Yeah, they're in Fox soon. No, you good. Fox, LaMelo, and Harden.
What is Jamal Murray? Jamal Murray. What is Jamal Murray?
01:15:54
Speaker 4: What are they next?
01:15:55
Speaker 1: They're losing.
01:15:56
Speaker 8: From 7 to 10, it might be.
01:15:58
Speaker 2: Denver is 3-2. They're not losing. They just ain't look great. Jamal Murray leading them in points, 25.
01:16:05
Speaker 1: He's averaging 25? Yeah, Jamal Murray.
01:16:10
Speaker 5: We value winning.
01:16:11
Speaker 3: Who we got to go with?
01:16:12
Speaker 1: Ty Jerome. James Harden's off. Ty Jerome is 7. You talking about Red Nail? Ty Jerome is 7. He got to be up there. They are 6-0, and we don't have him, I'm going to be honest with you, in the top 10. They're 6-0 right now. But they won a game without him. With who? Without Ty Jerome. Oh, did they?
01:16:34
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:16:34
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep it a buck. Ty Jerome might be top five. Ah, shut up. Right now?
01:16:39
Speaker 3: No. No, no, no.
01:16:42
Speaker 5: Hold on.
01:16:43
Speaker 1: He might be there. Why is he not top five? I gave Ty Jerome eight.
01:16:49
Speaker 3: Damn.
01:16:49
Speaker 1: Damn. He ain't lost. He wasn't even thought about. Jamal Murray. He's getting in the list now. Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray is sick. He's getting on the list. Hang on.
01:16:58
Speaker 5: So, Ray, who do you have at seven?
01:17:00
Speaker 1: I got Ty Jerome.
01:17:02
Speaker 5: I got Ty Jerome, too.
01:17:04
Speaker 1: He got to be on the list. He's seven. That's it. Jamal Murray is eight. So, now, who's nine and ten? Who's the newcomers?
01:17:12
Speaker 2: Pause.
01:17:12
Speaker 1: A-cuff.
01:17:14
Speaker 5: He's averaging 26 and six. Ty Jerome.
01:17:19
Speaker 3: He's top five or top six.
01:17:22
Speaker 5: He might be over Jalen Brunson right now.
01:17:24
Speaker 2: His team is 6-0.
01:17:26
Speaker 1: No, we ain't going that far. What do you mean? Y'all are going off the pass, bro. We're going off right.
01:17:31
Speaker 3: Jalen's shooting 39% from the field.
01:17:34
Speaker 1: Y'all better stop.
01:17:35
Speaker 3: Jalen's shooting 39% from the field.
01:17:37
Speaker 1: Okay. And if he played Memphis right now, he going to tear their ass up. Oh, my gosh.
01:17:41
Speaker 3: But we talking about who's playing well right now.
01:17:43
Speaker 1: Y'all are not doing the list appropriately.
01:17:45
Speaker 2: Well, put it in the chat because me and Charlie got God damn Jalen Brunson.
01:17:48
Speaker 3: So, y'all have Jalen Brunson number six?
01:17:49
Speaker 5: All right.
01:17:50
Speaker 1: Okay, cool. Put it in the chat. See what the chat say.
01:17:53
Speaker 3: Oh, we're tripping. Kyrie Irving's not on our top set?
01:17:57
Speaker 1: We ain't done it.
01:17:57
Speaker 3: We're not done yet.
01:17:58
Speaker 5: I think Kyrie Irving's above both of them.
01:18:00
Speaker 1: What is he averaging? No, he's not.
01:18:02
Speaker 5: He's not. He hasn't been cooking. He cooked a.
01:18:04
Speaker 1: Lot on Friday. What is he averaging?
01:18:05
Speaker 5: He's probably
only averaging like 20.
01:18:06
Speaker 1: He was on minutes restriction the first two games. Exactly. In the first game, we was like, oh, no, Dallas.
01:18:13
Speaker 5: Yo, Avenue, I hate seeing your name, but fuck, I have to deal with that shit too.
01:18:17
Speaker 3: Really?
01:18:18
Speaker 1: What happened?
01:18:18
Speaker 5: I said he hates my voice. I hate seeing his name, so same shit.
01:18:22
Speaker 1: I agree. It's just stupid ass name and shit. There you go. Right back at you. I agree with you. I hate his voice too. Kyrie's averaging 21.
01:18:32
Speaker 3: 21.
01:18:32
Speaker 1: Who, Kyrie? That might put him in the top 10.
01:18:36
Speaker 5: All right, so it's Brunson or Ty Jerome, right?
01:18:40
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
01:18:43
Speaker 1: You know we got a lot of Knick fans in that chat. Ty Jerome is getting cooked.
01:18:50
Speaker 3: Right six and oh it's right now.
01:18:53
Speaker 1: He's he wasn't even thought about he's in a.
01:18:55
Speaker 6: Right that doesn't mean put in the top ten he should be happy to be ten right now right y'all what is the criteria of right now matter of fact y'all erased his name off the list.
01:19:07
Speaker 3: I never added his name to me.
01:19:08
Speaker 1: We never had him on the list.
01:19:11
Speaker 3: But that don't mean he ain't top.
01:19:12
Speaker 1: Three, right? We got K number three in the top five.
01:19:16
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
01:19:17
Speaker 1: We got K number three. He's only averaging 22.
01:19:20
Speaker 5: His impact on winning.
01:19:21
Speaker 3: That matters. He's the number one player in this team winning.
01:19:23
Speaker 1: 22 on what?
01:19:24
Speaker 5: On seven and five. On 47% shooter or 45?
01:19:30
Speaker 1: Shea's averaging 26. Steph Curry's averaging 20.
01:19:34
Speaker 2: I know who is going up there. He's leading the fucking league in assists. And I'm tripping right now. Fuck that bullshit. Get Ty Jerome the fuck out of there and put Trey Young at seven.
01:19:42
Speaker 3: Hey, look at the chat. The chat's rolling with Ty Jerome right now.
01:19:45
Speaker 2: Fuck Trey Young at seven.
01:19:47
Speaker 1: No, he's bugging. Trey Young is leading the league in assists. He has 11 assists a game. I heard you. He's in top 10, though.
01:19:53
Speaker 5: Ray, stop.
01:19:54
Speaker 1: What are you saying? Stop feeding him. He's undefeated, Ray. Ray, he's undefeated, Ray. Look at the carpet. He's getting crazy. Fuck, Ray. Get your shit together. Y'all saying some bullshit.
01:20:07
Speaker 3: Ah, damn.
01:20:08
Speaker 1: Because he's 6-0. It's Jerome, Tyrone. Jerome in the house, nigga. Who the fuck is he talking about? You're not over Jamal Murray. He is not. Because of points?
01:20:17
Speaker 5: Hey, Ty Jerome wins, by the way.
01:20:19
Speaker 1: Yes. Ty Jerome. 131 is at 67%.
01:20:23
Speaker 2: So he's 6. Jalen Brunson is, well. Do y'all even have Jalen Brunson in the top 10?
01:20:28
Speaker 1: Yes, he's top 10. I'm just asking. No, y'all put Ty Jerome over Jalen Brunson?
01:20:34
Speaker 3: The chat decided. At 135 volts, it's 67% Ty Jerome.
01:20:39
Speaker 2: Because the chat's right now, today.
01:20:45
Speaker 1: Today, he's undefeated.
01:20:47
Speaker 6: Because if Jalen Brunson was undefeated and Ty Jerome had better numbers than him, it would be no fucking brainer.
01:20:52
Speaker 1: Heard you.
01:20:55
Speaker 6: Do we think Jalen Brunson is going to surpass Ty Jerome by the next ranking 1,000%?
01:20:59
Speaker 3: Yep.
01:20:59
Speaker 6: There is no question. But right now, we all agree, Jalen Brunson is not shooting the ball the best. What he's capable of, he's not there right now.
01:21:10
Speaker 5: So James Harden's gone.
01:21:11
Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, Ray, I don't know how y'all picked James Harden.
01:21:17
Speaker 1: That was a.
01:21:18
Speaker 3: That was a legacy thing.
01:21:21
Speaker 1: That was an OG decision. That was respect. Yeah, that was a respect pick.
01:21:25
Speaker 3: The Aaron Fox is gone, too.
01:21:26
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray, I got Jalen Brunson. I got Jalen Brunson at seven. Jalen Brunson at seven. And I think Jamal Murray's after him. Yep, I'm okay with that.
01:21:36
Speaker 6: And then I do think Trey Young is after number nine.
01:21:39
Speaker 5: No, I got Kai over Trey.
01:21:41
Speaker 1: Kai who?
01:21:42
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving.
01:21:43
Speaker 1: He's leading. He is leading in assists. Kyrie's averaging 23-4.
01:21:47
Speaker 3: Kyrie can be 10. He saw when he actually played what he did last game. We ain't talking about, like, we ain't talking about the first two games. We're talking about today.
01:21:59
Speaker 1: What did Kyrie look like? What is Trey's numbers? Can I not put an eight cuff?
01:22:03
Speaker 3: No.
01:22:03
Speaker 1: No.
01:22:03
Speaker 5: No.
01:22:04
Speaker 4: I don't respect that shit. Trey's averaging 21 and 10.
01:22:06
Speaker 1: On 39% shooting, by the way.
01:22:06
Speaker 3: Right, it's 21 and 10. On 39% shooting. Kyrie's averaging 21 and 4 on 52% shooting. We just roast A-Cup on his shooting at 39.
01:22:11
Speaker 1: So is Trey Young. He's super inefficient. 10 assists.
01:22:29
Speaker 3: You have him over Kyrie Irving.
01:22:30
Speaker 1: Right now, yeah. Kyrie is for sure going to make a massive jump.
01:22:34
Speaker 3: No, well, I mean, he's not. If Jamal Murray's 8, he might not make our list. Jamal Murray's 8, right? Trae Young's 9?
01:22:40
Speaker 1: Trae Young's 9. I'm cool with Kyrie 10. Y'all not put Acuff?
01:22:44
Speaker 3: No.
01:22:45
Speaker 1: Acuff is averaging 25 a game. Your nigga's shooting 28 million times a game. This is nasty, right?
01:22:50
Speaker 3: That's just disgusting. What about Dame?
01:22:52
Speaker 1: Dame's averaging like 19. 19 is only average.
01:22:56
Speaker 5: What's CJ doing right now?
01:22:58
Speaker 3: Low.
01:22:59
Speaker 5: I'm just going through the list I have.
01:23:01
Speaker 1: Tyrese Halliburton would have made it if he didn't get hurt.
What's the council average? No. Nobody over there.
01:23:07
Speaker 3: Yo, the fact we have Tyrese 10 is crazy. Who else? What about Fred? Fred's been playing really well. I don't know if he belongs on this list.
01:23:16
Speaker 1: He's not there. He's close. Tyrese Halliburton.
01:23:20
Speaker 4: He's close. He's hurt right now. He had a week off.
01:23:23
Speaker 1: Who's other point guards out there? We're missing somebody, bro. No, we're not. This is everybody's playing well.
01:23:28
Speaker 4: Carmelo?
01:23:30
Speaker 1: No, what is....
01:23:33
Speaker 5: Atlanta, Keely, Alexander, what does he have? I think we put CJ as their point guard.
01:23:38
Speaker 1: CJ ain't the point guard. I've been watching this. No, I stand to kill as a point guard. He only averaged 19. Oh, he was averaging 19? Okay.
01:23:45
Speaker 5: The Wizards are 3-3, okay.
01:23:46
Speaker 1: I guess so. So, um... Day-Day said, Dennis wrote.
01:23:54
Speaker 3: Day-Day really want the... Kyrie at 10.
01:23:58
Speaker 1: Kyrie is 10. Brandon Miller has been hooping. Kyrie is 10. Kyrie. That's fine. It was a cuff, man. All right. These are the new rankings for the first two weeks.
01:24:08
Speaker 2: Kyrie 10 is cool. We'll be ranking again in the next two weeks. Let's go and get the small fours before we get the super chats.
01:24:15
Speaker 1: Uh-oh. Are we there already? We're going to rank small fours? This is going to take a lot of adjustment.
01:24:22
Speaker 5: And I think Jason Tatum is one for everybody.
01:24:25
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum is one. Jason Tatum is one. Take Kawhi Leonard all the way out. Kawhi Leonard is off the list. Because he's hurt. Lowry marketing off the list. Only because he's hurt.
01:24:33
Speaker 5: Okay, so Lowry's out.
01:24:37
Speaker 1: Lowry's hurt too? I got Cooper flagged. I got Cooper.
01:24:45
Speaker 4: No, Kevin Durant's too. Kevin Durant's too.
01:24:47
Speaker 1: Cooper three.
01:24:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, Lowry's been playing like ass.
01:24:50
Speaker 1: Who Lowry has?
01:24:51
Speaker 5: He's shooting 36% from the field.
01:24:54
Speaker 1: Lowry's been bad. 15 points a game. Maybe bad as a unit.
01:24:57
Speaker 3: But that's because they haven't played at the small forward.
01:24:59
Speaker 5: He's usually a.
01:25:00
Speaker 1: Yeah. A four. A four. Bron is a power forward. Right.
01:25:05
Speaker 5: Y'all have Kevin Durant number two?
01:25:06
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:25:09
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll make an argument. One person's averaging 27, 6, and 7 shooting 56. One person's averaging 22. And that's Coop.
01:25:13
Speaker 5: 27, 6, and 7 at 56%.
01:25:13
Speaker 3: 22 and 6 at 51%. Kevin. Valid points, but Kevin Durant's 5 and 1. And Cooper's 4-2.
01:25:27
Speaker 1: Is it true? I'm not putting him in front of Kevin Durant. Sorry.
01:25:30
Speaker 3: Because of OG talk? Because of respect?
01:25:33
Speaker 1: Cooper's 2.
01:25:34
Speaker 3: Cooper's 2.
01:25:36
Speaker 1: Cooper's 2. Cooper's 2.
01:25:39
Speaker 3: 27-7-6, Ray?
01:25:40
Speaker 1: Cooper's 2.
01:25:42
Speaker 5: 26%?
01:25:42
Speaker 1: This is not my list, by the way, guys. No, this is the Baja list.
01:25:47
Speaker 3: You are part of the Baja, Ray.
01:25:48
Speaker 2: I'm with y'all, but I ain't with y'all with this damn list. Why is he not 2, Ray? Don't say because.
01:25:53
Speaker 1: It's Kevin Durant. Give me a reason why would you put... He's playing better than Kevin Durant right now. 22?
01:26:01
Speaker 2: If you put Kevin Durant on fucking Dallas right now, he'd average 35.
01:26:06
Speaker 1: Heard you, but he's not. Because he's on a team that has more options. Okay, never mind. Go ahead. Whatever. No, no, no.
01:26:12
Speaker 4: We can go to the next thing.
01:26:16
Speaker 3: KD3.
01:26:16
Speaker 1: Next thing.
01:26:16
Speaker 5: Who's better defensively, Ray?
01:26:17
Speaker 1: Who's four?
01:26:18
Speaker 5: Who's better defensively, Ray?
01:26:19
Speaker 3: Who's four?
01:26:20
Speaker 1: You know Cooper Flagg is.
01:26:21
Speaker 3: He's averaging one block and three steals a game as well.
01:26:23
Speaker 1: Cooper Flagg is. One block and three steals? Yes.
01:26:25
Speaker 4: Cooper Flagg is.
01:26:26
Speaker 3: 2.6.
01:26:26
Speaker 1: We round up.
01:26:27
Speaker 3: KD3, though.
01:26:27
Speaker 5: It's three.
01:26:29
Speaker 4: KD's three.
01:26:30
Speaker 1: KD's three. What are we doing in this Denny and Braun situation? Nah, I'm switching that. Denny is four. Denny's four. Denny's playing better. That was the ESPN list.
01:26:47
Speaker 5: That's because I was looking at the ESPN list.
01:26:49
Speaker 1: Denny's four.
01:26:50
Speaker 4: Braun's five.
01:26:54
Speaker 5: Denny might be ahead of KD.
01:26:56
Speaker 1: Hell no.
01:26:57
Speaker 5: If you look at stats. I don't know why I haven't watched him play.
01:26:58
Speaker 1: He's averaging 23.
01:27:00
Speaker 3: Denny's four.
01:27:01
Speaker 5: 23, seven, and six.
01:27:03
Speaker 1: 23?
01:27:03
Speaker 3: Seven and six.
01:27:04
Speaker 1: Who's this?
01:27:05
Speaker 3: Denny.
01:27:05
Speaker 1: Denny. Denny's four. Yeah, Denny's four. I mean, according to y'all, he should be three.
01:27:12
Speaker 5: He might be number three for me.
01:27:13
Speaker 1: Averaging more than KD.
01:27:14
Speaker 3: And his team's four and one or five and one?
01:27:18
Speaker 1: One. Stop. We're not doing that. Oh, but we're doing it for Cooper. Okay. 27-7-6 is up. He averaging more than KD.
01:27:26
Speaker 3: Hang on, wait, wait.
01:27:27
Speaker 5: I got to ask you this, Ray.
01:27:28
Speaker 3: I got to ask you.
01:27:29
Speaker 5: Hasn't Coop hit two game-winning baskets?
01:27:33
Speaker 4: Coop is up there.
01:27:35
Speaker 5: He took them home yesterday against Houston.
01:27:37
Speaker 1: We're not arguing Coop, bro. That's what you want to do?
01:27:40
Speaker 3: And he sent Kevin Durant home, right?
01:27:41
Speaker 1: Yes, we're not doing it. He's two. He's two. Top two is solidified. Yeah. Top two is
solidified.
01:27:49
Speaker 4: I got a name.
01:27:50
Speaker 1: Yaxo, whatever, Langenberg. Langenberg. Yeah, he ain't fired, though. He should be maybe number eight, nine. No.
01:27:59
Speaker 5: I don't have Yaxo Mayweather.
01:28:00
Speaker 1: Paul George is off the list. Why? Off. Why? Off the list. I want to take him off, Theo. Who? You tell me, because I'd like to see who. France is up there, because France has been balling since Paul George. Paul George might be still on the list.
01:28:16
Speaker 3: No, Paul George is having like 25. Yeah, yeah. Does LeBron get fired?
01:28:21
Speaker 1: No. I don't got LeBron. Paul George might be. You know who got to be on this list? Michael Porter Jr.
01:28:30
Speaker 4: Got to be on this list.
01:28:31
Speaker 1: No, he don't.
01:28:32
Speaker 6: They just won their first game yesterday.
01:28:34
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Did you just say Paul George averaging 25 a game? No, he's averaging 25. We'll wait. He might stay where he is.
01:28:45
Speaker 3: I got to create one for Yaxel. LeBron's 5?
01:28:48
Speaker 1: What is Franz averaging? Don't put LeBron up there. What is Franz averaging?
01:28:53
Speaker 3: Franz is averaging 27 and 8. 20 and 7 and 8.
01:28:59
Speaker 1: Where's LeBron?
01:29:00
Speaker 5: But he's shooting 39 from the field.
01:29:01
Speaker 1: 16.
01:29:02
Speaker 5: 7 and 7.
01:29:03
Speaker 1: 7 and 7.
01:29:04
Speaker 3: But he's 5 and 1.
01:29:07
Speaker 1: LeBron's going to keep dropping off this list. Just be real.
01:29:12
Speaker 5: No, LeBron is still....
01:29:16
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Why? Because what? Because you got a big record?
01:29:18
Speaker 3: He's impacting winning.
01:29:20
Speaker 1: Okay. We pick and choose where we want to put stats.
01:29:22
Speaker 3: Okay, hold up. Wait, wait, wait. Are you saying Cooper does impact winning? Are you saying Cooper's not impacting winning?
01:29:28
Speaker 1: I didn't say that.
01:29:28
Speaker 5: What's their record? Four and two.
01:29:32
Speaker 1: Four and two. And what's Houston's record? Five and one.
01:29:34
Speaker 3: Okay.
01:29:35
Speaker 5: You're acting like that's off by a milestone.
01:29:37
Speaker 3: Cooper just beat him. He gave him the first loss.
01:29:39
Speaker 1: Cooper beat him.
01:29:40
Speaker 5: He said, hold that.
01:29:41
Speaker 1: He beat him one time. No, don't do that.
01:29:44
Speaker 8: Are you still talking about who?
01:29:48
Speaker 1: I'm making a point because they've been doing this for LeBron.
01:29:51
Speaker 2: I'm just saying LeBron's numbers is 16, 7, and 7.
01:29:53
Speaker 1: We named three people already that got better stats.
01:29:55
Speaker 4: LeBron might have to go lower, though.
01:29:56
Speaker 1: Yes. We named three people who got better stats than him. Paul George's numbers are better than LeBron. We're talking about putting them five. Come on. Paul might have to be in front of LeBron. But LeBron does the other thing. He rebounds and he assists. Paul George is
averaging what? 20. But five and what? I think three. Five and three. That's equivalent to... What is France averaging? Because France has been... He's.
01:30:20
Speaker 3: 20 and seven and eight, but he's shooting 39% of the field.
01:30:23
Speaker 1: I don't care, but he's averaging 27 and eight?
01:30:25
Speaker 5: 20 and seven and eight.
01:30:27
Speaker 1: Okay. So what are we doing? France?
01:30:31
Speaker 3: I'm not going to lie.
01:30:32
Speaker 1: France or PG?
01:30:34
Speaker 5: I might have Yaxel number five.
01:30:36
Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry. I can't do it.
01:30:39
Speaker 5: Yaxel's averaging 22, 7, and 4.
01:30:41
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson's not smart. Jalen Johnson's a power forward, right?
01:30:45
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:30:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, we put him in the power forward. This is a tough one.
01:30:49
Speaker 3: I'm going with Franz. Okay, so Ray, you got Franz number 5. Who do you have number 5, Charlie?
01:30:52
Speaker 1: Who else is in the league at that spot? I'm picking Yaxel.
01:30:55
Speaker 5: Well, Jimmy's out. You guys obviously kicked out Kawhi.
01:30:58
Speaker 1: I'm picking Yaxel, fam. He's averaging the most next.
01:31:01
Speaker 5: I got Yaxel at five.
01:31:02
Speaker 1: Might be Yaxel. I'm with you right now.
01:31:04
Speaker 3: So Yaxel's five.
01:31:05
Speaker 5: I don't have Drano for Yaxel.
01:31:07
Speaker 1: If anybody, I think Paul George is five. Well, it's two.
01:31:10
Speaker 3: He's got Franz. You got Paul.
01:31:11
Speaker 5: So Yaxel's two.
01:31:13
Speaker 1: Franz? Ray said France.
01:31:14
Speaker 3: Ray.
01:31:15
Speaker 1: He's averaging 20.
01:31:16
Speaker 3: Ray said France.
01:31:17
Speaker 1: Ooh. He's doing two games.
01:31:19
Speaker 3: All right, so Yaxel's five. Yaxel's five because me and Charlie are two.
01:31:22
Speaker 1: What does that mean? They injured two.
01:31:24
Speaker 3: What?
01:31:25
Speaker 1: Y'all be moving. Oh, wait a minute.
01:31:28
Speaker 3: Oh, hold up, hold up. Yes, that's one.
01:31:30
Speaker 1: Brandon Miller. He's a two. He's in the shooting guards. Fair. Brandon Miller's a two. That's what we put him in.
01:31:36
Speaker 5: Okay, he's a shooting guard.
01:31:37
Speaker 1: All right.
01:31:38
Speaker 3: So it's Yaxel number five. Okay, so who's number six? Ray, who's your number six?
01:31:43
Speaker 5: I don't know.
01:31:43
Speaker 3: Is it Franz?
01:31:44
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm going to let y'all do the list. Whatever y'all pick, I'll just go with it.
01:31:49
Speaker 3: I ain't tight.
01:31:50
Speaker 1: I just don't know. I don't know how we're picking now.
01:31:54
Speaker 5: We're picking off an impact this year.
01:31:55
Speaker 1: We're talking about eyes, right? We're trying to figure out who's better.
01:31:57
Speaker 3: Who's playing well this year.
01:31:58
Speaker 1: Maybe y'all might answer. Can we get Yaxu? Can we get a graphical for Yaxu?
01:32:02
Speaker 3: I have to go run over and get it done again.
01:32:05
Speaker 1: I'll get that done for you. But he should be here, though, because he's averaging 22. I think Paul George moves up, bro.
01:32:09
Speaker 3: I agree.
01:32:11
Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest.
01:32:12
Speaker 3: Over Braun?
01:32:15
Speaker 1: No.
01:32:16
Speaker 5: I got LeBron six.
01:32:17
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. So who's five? Yaxel. Yaxel.
01:32:19
Speaker 5: I just don't have the graphic because I had Jimmy Butler.
01:32:22
Speaker 1: Yaxel's pretty hot. What is Cam Boozer? Yaxel just had like eight points a game ago.
01:32:26
Speaker 3: Cam Boozer's a four.
01:32:26
Speaker 1: He's a four. Yaxel just had about eight points that game ago. Super. When he played against Luka, when he talked about that joke. He had 37 last game.
01:32:34
Speaker 5: But then he dropped 37 last game.
01:32:36
Speaker 1: Last game he had?
01:32:37
Speaker 2: Last night?
01:32:37
Speaker 3: 37, yeah.
01:32:38
Speaker 1: He had 37 last night. He might be two. No, bro. I'm just fucking with you. I'm fucking with you.
01:32:42
Speaker 5: All right, so is LeBron, maybe you'll have LeBron James six. Who do you have?
01:32:46
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. All right. LeBron six. Somebody say Brandon Miller is a three.
01:32:51
Speaker 5: That's how I feel, but Fields is the two.
01:32:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, but his knipple will be the two.
01:32:54
Speaker 5: That's how I felt.
01:32:55
Speaker 1: All right, then. So fuck Brandon Miller. I don't give a fuck. Brandon Miller's up there. Brandon Miller's ahead of the round.
01:33:00
Speaker 5: So Brandon Miller might be five for me.
01:33:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:33:02
Speaker 5: I'll push the axle down to six.
01:33:04
Speaker 6: This is my thing. You're talking about Brandon Miller's at three. Brandon Miller's not guarding Jason Tatum, not guarding Kevin Durant.
01:33:10
Speaker 1: Who's guarding him? Huh? Who's guarding him? They probably put the Sean James nigga on him or something. Yeah, but that's different. That's like putting Dort on everybody, but Dort was great.
01:33:17
Speaker 3: But hang on, see, but Luka doesn't guard the one. Luka doesn't guard the one.
01:33:21
Speaker 1: Brandon Miller's always been a two his whole life.
01:33:24
Speaker 4: No, he's been a three.
01:33:25
Speaker 1: He was a two in Alabama. I thought he was a three. No, he was a two. He was a point guard, then him, and then they had the white boy.
01:33:33
Speaker 2: Fuck.
01:33:33
Speaker 3: But who you guard doesn't define your position. Luka don't guard the one.
01:33:37
Speaker 1: How tall is he, Theo?
01:33:37
Speaker 3: 6'8?
01:33:41
Speaker 1: Brandon Miller's not 6'5.
01:33:43
Speaker 3: Brandon Miller's 6'7, 6'8.
01:33:44
Speaker 1: Okay. Brandon Miller's a 3, man. That's cool. He's a 3. Brandon Miller's a 5.
01:33:49
Speaker 4: I actually don't give a fuck.
01:33:50
Speaker 5: Okay, so the Yaxl's 6.
01:33:51
Speaker 4: Yaxl's 6. LeBron's 7. Paul George, 8.
01:33:54
Speaker 1: Hang on. Hold up.
01:33:57
Speaker 3: Hold up.
01:33:57
Speaker 1: What the fuck? You said Brandon Miller's 5?
01:34:01
Speaker 3: He's over Yaxl.
01:34:03
Speaker 1: He's having... He's killing.
01:34:05
Speaker 2: Yaxo is playing better than Brandon Miller.
01:34:08
Speaker 3: By the way, Brandon Miller was measured at 6'9 with a 7'2 wingspan.
01:34:11
Speaker 1: That's what I'm about to say. Brandon Miller is better.
01:34:15
Speaker 3: No, he's shooting 38% from the field. I got Yaxo over Brandon.
01:34:18
Speaker 1: Yaxo is playing better than Brandon Miller. What is the average?
01:34:20
Speaker 5: 24 points.
01:34:22
Speaker 1: And what? 6.
01:34:22
Speaker 3: How much is Yaxo averaging? 22 on 50% shooting and 7 and 4. I got Yaxo over him. I got Brandon Miller 6.
01:34:29
Speaker 1: Yaxo, Yaxo, Yaxo, Yaxo.
01:34:32
Speaker 3: All right, so LeBron's seven. Okay, this is where it gets tricky. Ray, you got Paul or you got Franz at eight?
01:34:39
Speaker 1: Paul.
01:34:40
Speaker 3: Okay, so everybody's good with Paul at eight.
01:34:44
Speaker 5: Yes. Okay, so are we kicking OGO for sure?
01:34:49
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
01:34:50
Speaker 3: So Franz is nine.
01:34:52
Speaker 1: I'm putting A.J. DeBanta. Let's play two games. Let's play two games.
01:34:58
Speaker 3: Play very well.
01:34:59
Speaker 1: He had like 15 points. He averaged 15. Okay, you're right.
01:35:03
Speaker 3: He's averaging 18 and 5. That's what he's averaging.
01:35:06
Speaker 1: In his two games? Yeah.
01:35:07
Speaker 3: That's good numbers for a rookie.
01:35:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great numbers.
01:35:11
Speaker 5: I got Michael Porter Jr.
01:35:12
Speaker 1: What is McDaniels doing? What's Michael Porter Jr. averaging? He's 19.
01:35:14
Speaker 3: 19? No, 17. 17. MPJ.
01:35:15
Speaker 1: I got Michael Porter Jr. What is he averaging? 21 and 7 on 46% shooting. There you go. He's your top 10.
01:35:28
Speaker 3: Everybody cool with Michael Porter Jr.
01:35:30
Speaker 1: Who else is left, though?
01:35:32
Speaker 3: You got Trey Murphy.
01:35:33
Speaker 4: Sar Thompson.
01:35:35
Speaker 3: No. Is a men? Where do we put a men?
01:35:38
Speaker 1: It's a two.
01:35:39
Speaker 4: I thought we put him in point guard. No, no, he's a two.
01:35:42
Speaker 5: We put him at a two.
01:35:43
Speaker 1: We put him as a two.
01:35:45
Speaker 3: I think I'm with... I mean, are we really just going to kick out Kawhi? Yeah.
01:35:51
Speaker 5: Even though he's injured?
01:35:51
Speaker 1: He's injured. So when he comes back, then he can make his comeback.
01:35:54
Speaker 4: Last time Nick played.
01:35:56
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
01:35:57
Speaker 6: They still average 19.
01:36:00
Speaker 1: They only play two games. Damn. That's tough. Jalen Browns. Who's Jalen Browns?
01:36:07
Speaker 5: We put him at a two.
01:36:08
Speaker 1: We put him at a two, bro. Who's a three for Memphis? What is he averaging, though? He's averaging, like, what, 19 a game? I would put Jalen Browns at two. They start Maxie and BJ. That is a fact.
01:36:20
Speaker 3: You got to ask D.O.
01:36:22
Speaker 1: Nigga, they start two point guards.
01:36:25
Speaker 4: B.J.
01:36:25
Speaker 1: Eskimo is in a point guard body. He's a two guard, though. He's a two. It's like Steph Castle. Is he a point guard? No, absolutely not. No, I'm saying B.J. Eskimo has always been a two guard.
01:36:35
Speaker 2: We change this shit every fucking week, guys. Every week we change this. So we got to make a decision who they're.
01:36:40
Speaker 3: Going to be.
01:36:42
Speaker 1: Hold on. Scottie Barnes is a four, right?
01:36:43
Speaker 5: Scottie Barnes is a four for us, yes, because Kawhi was a three.
01:36:45
Speaker 2: I saw him and Siakam. That's why I didn't even say that because we put them as fours.
01:36:50
Speaker 1: No, leave J. LeBron as a shooting guard. This is fine. Leave him as a two.
01:36:54
Speaker 5: All right, so this is the list.
01:36:56
Speaker 1: I'm cool with Micah Porter. Yeah, that's the list.
01:36:58
Speaker 4: You can't disagree.
01:36:59
Speaker 3: They haven't been winning, but he's still been playing better than a lot of these guys. I mean, Jaden McDaniels, you can make the argument. He's impacting winning.
01:37:05
Speaker 1: He's 17. He's going to have to score a lot more now. We can see it.
01:37:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, do we just get– we got 19 Super Chats.
01:37:15
Speaker 3: Do we get the Super Chats?
01:37:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.
01:37:16
Speaker 3: You guys want to do us the A Cup because I know you guys have been talking about A Cup the whole time.
01:37:19
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:37:21
Speaker 4: He's going to get left out today. He plays for Sacramento.
01:37:23
Speaker 1: He put Acuff in the top ten. It's crazy. It's not crazy. He's averaging 25 a game.
01:37:27
Speaker 4: Put his numbers up.
01:37:29
Speaker 5: I got something for you guys.
01:37:30
Speaker 1: He averages 25. Put his shooting numbers up. Here, Ray. Here, hold up. It's nasty, Ray. What is that?
01:37:37
Speaker 3: He's averaging the most field goal attempts in NBA history.
01:37:42
Speaker 1: Talk about getting to it.
01:37:45
Speaker 4: This is fucking disgusting.
01:37:46
Speaker 3: He's averaging more than Elgin, man. Do it again. And Michael Jordan.
01:37:50
Speaker 1: Do it again for the chat. It's our team. It's disgusting.
01:37:56
Speaker 5: Are we, Ray? It's a lot of field goal attempts.
01:37:59
Speaker 1: That's bad, man. Hey, man, your fella getting to it, man. Y'all gonna discredit him because he's on Sacramento? You fucking right. He's averaging 25.
01:38:06
Speaker 2: 25 my 24 shot that's nasty Rick.
01:38:10
Speaker 1: He got the green light the fuck you wanted to do. Oh, well be efficient Let me have 24 shots. I'm not averaging 25.
01:38:17
Speaker 5: He's actually averaging 26 He's got the ultra green light guys be efficient.
01:38:20
Speaker 1: That's not his fault make more than you're missing, my nigga. Hey, but he's shotting better the last two games. If I, anytime. No, his
first three games was atrocious. What did he shot the last two games?
01:38:40
Speaker 5: Oh, he was shooting like 33% in his first couple games.
01:38:43
Speaker 1: What is his last two games? What is his shot?
01:38:45
Speaker 5: He shot 48% and then 50.
01:38:47
Speaker 1: Thank you. He's playing better. And y'all going to take him.
01:38:50
Speaker 3: Come on.
01:38:51
Speaker 1: He ain't playing better than the guys we got on the list. Yes, he is. Who? And down at that bottom, he is.
01:38:56
Speaker 3: Who?
01:38:56
Speaker 1: Put the point guard list back up there. Yeah, put it back.
01:39:00
Speaker 5: No, he's not playing better than Trey, y'all. He's not playing better than Kai.
01:39:02
Speaker 1: He's averaging 26 again.
01:39:04
Speaker 3: You pick him up over Kai or Jamal?
01:39:06
Speaker 1: There's no one on this list he's playing better than.
01:39:07
Speaker 5: I don't think you're playing better than who?
01:39:10
Speaker 3: Name one.
01:39:11
Speaker 5: He's going to say Ty Jerome. He's going to say Ty Jerome.
01:39:13
Speaker 2: No, I ain't about to say Ty Jerome. If you're talking about numbers, who is he playing better than?
01:39:18
Speaker 1: Who numbers is he better? His numbers is better than how many people out there?
01:39:21
Speaker 5: He's not better than Trey?
01:39:22
Speaker 1: Seven, eight, nine, ten. His numbers is better.
01:39:25
Speaker 3: I mean, if.
01:39:27
Speaker 4: I won't, but I'm just telling you. His numbers are better than Jamal Murray's.
01:39:30
Speaker 1: What's Jamal Murray's average? 26, 25, I think. They ain't better than 26. Ray, you're averaging 26 off 24 shots. It's crazy, man.
01:39:41
Speaker 4: That's terrible basketball, Ray.
01:39:42
Speaker 1: That is disgusting. His first three games was atrocious. That's what I'm trying to tell y'all. That's why his percentage is bad. That matters. I know, but that's why his percentage is bad. But you said, yo, when you put him up here, it's crazy. His last two games, he's shotting 50%.
01:39:54
Speaker 3: Ray, if Kyrie's averaging 15 attempts, if he gives nine more shots, he's averaging 30-plus, Ray.
01:40:00
Speaker 1: No, Kyrie. Kyrie, when he was at Cleveland, he first got in the league. He was putting the numbers up. No.
01:40:06
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the numbers right now.
01:40:09
Speaker 1: No, he was more efficient. That's what I'm saying. I value efficiency. But I'm just saying, though, his first three games was so bad that these last games was good.
01:40:15
Speaker 6: That's why he can't be up there right now. His first three games was so approaching. He's 26.
01:40:19
Speaker 3: How many games have they won?
01:40:20
Speaker 4: Hey, what's the most?
01:40:21
Speaker 1: The second one a game? No. Zero.
01:40:25
Speaker 3: So he ain't going up there, right?
01:40:26
Speaker 1: I'm not putting a winless team on the fucking list. Well, shit, you got fucking, oh, they just won.
01:40:30
Speaker 3: They won one game. They won one game, Ray.
01:40:32
Speaker 1: That's bullshit. Look up the most attempts, Ray, in this season. Most attempts you have, Ray.
01:40:42
Speaker 3: Me?
01:40:43
Speaker 1: Yeah. In a season?
01:40:44
Speaker 5: Ray's career. Raymond Felton.
01:40:46
Speaker 1: I put my skills as my rookie year.
01:40:48
Speaker 3: Most field goal attempts.
01:40:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. In his NBA career. So I just looked this up real quick for me. Anytime I shot over 24 times, I've scored 48, 39, 32, 32, and 29. And all been around 45% or higher.
01:41:14
Speaker 3: We got enough 30 shots one game.
01:41:16
Speaker 1: You got 30 shots? How much did he score?
01:41:19
Speaker 3: He scored 27. He shot poorly.
01:41:20
Speaker 1: He shot 9 for 30.
01:41:20
Speaker 3: How poor.
01:41:21
Speaker 1: Disgusting. It was bad.
01:41:24
Speaker 3: It was against the Bulls in December. I don't know if you remember that game.
01:41:29
Speaker 1: Why'd you shoot 30 times? That was leaving me open, I guess. When that bitch ride. What the fuck they talking about? If I was to shoot 24 shots a game, that might be fucking nice, bro.
01:41:44
Speaker 5: Shooting 24 shots a game is a lot of shots.
01:41:47
Speaker 1: Your elbow would be icing, too. That's why he wear that sleeve. Lee Robinson.
01:41:54
Speaker 2: Appreciate the 499. Wimby, 22 dunks in the last three games alone.
01:41:58
Speaker 6: Led the NBA the last two weeks with 32 dunks, nine ahead of Walker Kessler.
01:42:02
Speaker 1: That's who's not getting talked about.
01:42:03
Speaker 3: If there was one thing, Lee Robinson is going to be his first fan.
01:42:07
Speaker 1: He had 43.
01:42:08
Speaker 2: To me, Wimby is going to be MVP this year. I know y'all think Luka, and they're probably going to be in a race with each other.
01:42:14
Speaker 1: But Luka? I mean, Wimby got a chance. Wimby got a chance. Defensive player of the year and MVP.
01:42:20
Speaker 3: I think it would be Luke R1B. We did address this. Appreciate the $ 10 again, Derek Mitchell.
01:42:29
Speaker 1: Mexican Kobe. Appreciate the $ 2. I don't know what it's on. Maxie the Engine. MB should be Bill Russell now. I'm rolling.
01:42:39
Speaker 5: Are you saying Maxie's Bob Cousy?
01:42:42
Speaker 1: Is that what I'm hearing?
01:42:46
Speaker 6: Ride that coattail, brother. Derek Mitchell, appreciate the $ 10. I know Charlie says singular sports. It's different, but tennis is still looking for a white American.
01:42:57
Speaker 1: Like, who's that? Agassi. Agassi. And Sampras. Sampras. The NBA. No, I don't know that. Andre Agassi. Andre Agassi.
01:43:08
Speaker 6: The NBA would love to have Cooper as the face of the NBA if it's possible, 1,000%. I wouldn't say the NBA would love to put, no.
01:43:18
Speaker 8: Because it kind of goes against what they got going on. Like, think about it, bro. The consumers are mainly white. The owners are mainly white. So why would they not want?
01:43:31
Speaker 3: Why would they not want a white face?
01:43:33
Speaker 1: Why would
they not want a white face?
01:43:35
Speaker 4: So why wouldn't they do a White Lives Matter?
01:43:38
Speaker 1: Because that's never been an issue.
01:43:40
Speaker 2: Right?
01:43:41
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't they do a Every Life Matters? They wouldn't do that, right? They do do that. They'll do a Black Lives Matter.
01:43:49
Speaker 1: Yes. Right? Because why? Because they beat the hell out of a black man.
01:43:54
Speaker 5: Because of the circumstances of what happened in the world.
01:43:56
Speaker 1: But because what?
01:43:57
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, the NHL didn't do a Black Lives Matter.
01:44:03
Speaker 3: Why?
01:44:03
Speaker 5: Yes, but you're making an argument on.
01:44:06
Speaker 1: You're looking at me crazy. I'm trying to figure out where you're going with this.
01:44:10
Speaker 4: Where I'm going with it is, at the end of the day, the NHL is a white league.
01:44:15
Speaker 3: Okay.
01:44:15
Speaker 1: Okay. So they're not going to do a Black Lives Matter. NBA is a black league.
01:44:22
Speaker 3: Juicy.
01:44:22
Speaker 4: The majority is black.
01:44:23
Speaker 3: Charlie's argument is F1 is a singular sport because he's talking about Lewis Hamilton.
01:44:26
Speaker 1: I don't agree that the NBA is a black league though.
01:44:29
Speaker 4: So you're saying that they would love to put Coop?
01:44:31
Speaker 1: Yes. No, the league don't want to do that.
01:44:33
Speaker 3: What about Lewis Hamilton? It is a team sport. Mercedes, Ferrari. Lewis Hamilton is the face of F1.
01:44:38
Speaker 1: Is he?
01:44:39
Speaker 3: Lewis Hamilton is the face of F1, yeah.
01:44:43
Speaker 1: I'm talking about NBA.
01:44:44
Speaker 5: It's a black man being a predominantly white sport. Now, it is global.
01:44:50
Speaker 1: It's questionable. Is he a D.
01:44:52
Speaker 3: Will?
01:44:53
Speaker 5: He's a D.
01:44:53
Speaker 1: Will. He's a D.
01:44:54
Speaker 2: Will.
01:44:55
Speaker 1: It's questionable.
01:44:58
Speaker 5: His dad looks like D. Will's daddy. His mom looks like D.
01:45:01
Speaker 3: Will's mom.
01:45:01
Speaker 1: Yes. It's not the same. It's not the same. I just don't think the NBA would do it, fam. I just don't think they'd do it. Like, yo... Like the league is going to do that? Nah, fam. The league ain't going to do that, fam.
01:45:16
Speaker 3: All right. Got you.
01:45:17
Speaker 1: Got you. All right. Next one.
01:45:21
Speaker 3: Hong, can you post a clip of CV when he said, like you did when someone says some foul? Tariq, can you press the button on the stream deck?
01:45:30
Speaker 1: Yo, yo.
01:45:34
Speaker 3: There you go.
01:45:35
Speaker 1: Appreciate the $ 5, Calvin.
01:45:39
Speaker 3: Agent, two bucks.
01:45:40
Speaker 5: Who should trade for some bonus now that he wants?
01:45:43
Speaker 3: I'll probably talk about it tomorrow, right?
01:45:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk about it tomorrow. Real quick, was Obama like 100% black? No, I don't think so, if I remember correctly.
01:45:51
Speaker 5:
He grew up to one white parent, right, I believe?
01:45:54
Speaker 1: I think it's like, I want to say Muslim or something. Can we look that up real quick? Let me see.
01:45:59
Speaker 8: If you're saying, oh, the majority of them are Barack Obama, okay. Because you're 100% brother.
01:46:04
Speaker 5: He's biracial.
01:46:05
Speaker 3: He was born to a Kenyan father and a European descent mother.
01:46:09
Speaker 1: So he's black and white?
01:46:10
Speaker 3: He is black and white.
01:46:12
Speaker 1: Just like Tiger. Did you hear that? Kenyon. He a nigga.
01:46:18
Speaker 3: Next.
01:46:19
Speaker 1: No. Yes.
01:46:20
Speaker 3: But so is Lewis Hamilton's dad. It's not like Lewis Hamilton's dad.
01:46:25
Speaker 1: We've never seen a 100% black person. When you pull over Barack Obama, you'd be like, that is a black man.
01:46:33
Speaker 5: I mean, look at Anthony Hamilton, bro.
01:46:39
Speaker 1: I'm going to change it to D.
01:46:40
Speaker 3: Will.
01:46:41
Speaker 1: No. Barack Obama and D. Will are too different.
01:46:45
Speaker 3: Look, that's Lewis' dad and Lewis' mom.
01:46:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at his daddy. Black as hell.
01:46:51
Speaker 3: So, it's the same thing.
01:46:53
Speaker 1: Maybe if I go to O.J.
01:46:55
Speaker 3: Anyways, so anyways, let's go to the next Super Chat. We'll talk about that tomorrow, Agent.
01:47:02
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm not a racist. I told you guys, I'm not a racist. I love white people. We don't need the story anymore. Sorry you're not racist.
01:47:09
Speaker 3: Kim, we won't get into the conversation, but who's the face of F1 right now then?
01:47:12
Speaker 1: Steph and Klay changed the NBA, not just Steph. No, Steph. Appreciate the 199. Y'all think Klay changed it? He had a part of it. He had a part of it. His Blacks brothers had a part of it then.
01:47:25
Speaker 3: For sure, but it was Steph off the dribble.
01:47:28
Speaker 1: No, but Steph moved the needle. Yeah. Of course he did. 100%. $ 5 from King Ace Prince.
01:47:34
Speaker 3: Appreciate it. You cannot fault Maxie for his team being good. Theo's right. JB, Bron and Embiid has not played much. Maxie's carried his own and earned the two spot.
01:47:42
Speaker 1: Respect, but he convinced me.
01:47:45
Speaker 5: He didn't convince me, but I heard you.
01:47:47
Speaker 1: Maxie was two. We put Maxie two? We did.
01:47:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did.
01:47:49
Speaker 5: That's based on your two votes.
01:47:52
Speaker 3: Fair? Maxie two. They said Kate about to be five and two after tonight facing the Hornets.
01:47:59
Speaker 1: Probably it.
01:48:01
Speaker 3: Are they facing the Hornets tonight?
01:48:02
Speaker 1: They are playing the Hornets in Charlotte.
01:48:06
Speaker 3: Come on, Day-Day.
01:48:07
Speaker 1: Y'all are in shambles over there. Y'all know. Y'all wasn't giving Detroit their credit. Y'all know that, right? Oh, I'm still not giving Detroit their credit. You're not giving Detroit their credit. No, it was us. Or Tria. No. Did not give. I'm always giving. He always gives Detroit credit. You never say me.
01:48:23
Speaker 5: What credit do you want me to give them?
01:48:24
Speaker 1: You didn't put them one. No, we don't. No, I didn't put them one. Who put them one?
01:48:28
Speaker 3: We're six games.
01:48:28
Speaker 6: Who put them one in this game? They could still finish number one in the East for all our damn care. They ain't winning a fucking thing. Until they get a Devin Booker or a Kyrie Irving, they not winning shit. As long as Jalen Duran is your second best player, he's a good player. He could be your third best player. If that's your second best player, you ain't winning a fucking thing.
01:48:50
Speaker 5: So you believe they'll be number one for the whole year for Charlie?
01:48:53
Speaker 1: They might with all these injuries. Hold up.
01:48:56
Speaker 5: Yo, Kurt's on. Yeah, Kurt's on.
01:48:59
Speaker 1: So yeah, just join the room. I'm on a show. I'm on a show.
01:49:03
Speaker 3: Talk to you later. T, I got to get this McDonald's ad done.
01:49:07
Speaker 1: Sorry.
01:49:07
Speaker 2: You ever seen that skit with Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker when.
01:49:12
Speaker 1: His daddy called his phone? Yeah. Uh-uh. You waste our film.
01:49:18
Speaker 3: All right.
01:49:20
Speaker 1: $ 6. 99.
01:49:21
Speaker 3: Y'all know that they put Kobe Finals game on ESPN2 because of Steph's generational season, right?
01:49:26
Speaker 5: Adam Silver would for sure wait for Steph if he did the same.
01:49:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all tripping on that. Steph Curry go to a new team.
01:49:33
Speaker 6: You're going to wait to see what team that is before you put that schedule out.
01:49:37
Speaker 1: That's a fact.
01:49:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
01:49:40
Speaker 1: Next Super Chat. Abe.
01:49:42
Speaker 3: Special to Abe. Warriors in six, Yaks for rookie of the year. No, not Warriors in six. We are not winning anything.
01:49:47
Speaker 1: Yaks. But Yaks is. Yaks might win rookie of the year. He might. He will. I don't know.
01:49:53
Speaker 3: Cam Boozer's having a good year. A lot of people have a good year.
01:49:56
Speaker 1: He's hooping.
01:49:57
Speaker 2: He's.
01:49:57
Speaker 5: I mean, you have to sustain this level of play.
01:49:59
Speaker 1: That's fair.
01:50:00
Speaker 3: So we'll find out.
01:50:01
Speaker 5: It's too early to say that.
01:50:05
Speaker 3: No, he could win it. Who? If he averages 26 the entire year, even if he shoots 40%, he could win the rookie of the year. Ray's not wrong.
01:50:14
Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
01:50:15
Speaker 6: If a rookie is, if Yaxel's averaging 22 and his team starts winning, he's getting rookie of the year.
01:50:21
Speaker 1: Just because the nigga average.
01:50:23
Speaker 3: If you average 26?
01:50:24
Speaker 6: When's the last time somebody from Sacramento won rookie of the year?
01:50:27
Speaker 1: Did Cooper Flay make the playoffs? Last year? No.
01:50:31
Speaker 5: No.
01:50:31
Speaker 1: All right.
What rookie played better than Cooper Flagg? Kyle Knipple. Y'all were saying that. Especially him. Oh, yeah. He definitely played better. No, it was close. And they made the playoffs.
01:50:40
Speaker 3: No, it was.
01:50:40
Speaker 1: I think their last rookie of the year was. It was close. Was it Tyreek Evans? Tyreek Evans.
01:50:48
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:50:48
Speaker 5: He could win rookie of the year.
01:50:49
Speaker 1: Look at you. They win rookie of the year.
01:50:51
Speaker 3: Who? The rookie's cousins. They win rookie of the year.
01:50:53
Speaker 1: It was the same year John won. John. Yeah, he did. It was John. The one winning that. The one winning that one.
01:50:59
Speaker 3: All right, next one.
01:51:01
Speaker 1: Mexican Cole, appreciate the $ 5.
01:51:02
Speaker 6: I remember Jason Tatum said the biggest reason they won in 24 was because everybody had gotten paid before the season and they had zero agendas going in.
01:51:12
Speaker 1: That matters. That does matter. That shit matters.
01:51:16
Speaker 5: That's the problem with the Knicks, in my opinion, too.
01:51:20
Speaker 1: Agree. They got to figure that shit out, and hopefully they will. No, I would have never.
01:51:25
Speaker 5: Mr.
01:51:26
Speaker 6: Colby, appreciate the $ 2. Debate Curry Harden. If they swap teams in their prime.
01:51:33
Speaker 3: James Harden's not winning 73 games with that team.
01:51:36
Speaker 1: He can't.
01:51:37
Speaker 6: I don't think Steve Kerr will let them play the way James Harden plays.
01:51:42
Speaker 1: Can I go back to this?
01:51:43
Speaker 5: I think the system's also.
01:51:44
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead. Can I go back to... This is bothering. What's bothering you? The whole Cooper flag. Oh, my God.
01:51:52
Speaker 3: Can we finish the Super Chats?
01:51:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's finish the Super Chats and.
01:51:55
Speaker 3: Then get your shit on.
01:51:56
Speaker 1: Then you can end the show with.
01:51:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can end the show. Let's just get through the Super Chats.
01:52:00
Speaker 1: Because I still don't get it. He's going for the other.
01:52:04
Speaker 3: All right. Mr.
01:52:05
Speaker 5: David Grant, appreciate $ 2.
01:52:06
Speaker 3: Mr.
01:52:06
Speaker 5: Bob Cousy with the Uzi. Coop, don't shoot the couch.
01:52:11
Speaker 1: I don't get it, but okay. I don't get it. But appreciate the $ 2.
01:52:13
Speaker 5: Appreciate the $ 2, though, David Graham. Big shout-out to you.
01:52:16
Speaker 1: He thought he cooked. Bob Cousy with the Uzi. Day-Day, appreciate the $ 5. I don't know.
01:52:23
Speaker 6: The baddest women in women's college basketball returns tonight. Excited to see Juju Hooper.
01:52:28
Speaker 1: That's a fact, David.
01:52:30
Speaker 3: I'm not going to lie.
01:52:30
Speaker 1: Shout-out to college basketball being back, man.
01:52:32
Speaker 5: I like college women's basketball, but I don't like professional women's basketball.
01:52:36
Speaker 1: Juju gets in the league. A lot of people like college sports more than professional sports.
01:52:41
Speaker 5: Men's basketball, no, but.
01:52:42
Speaker 3: College women's basketball is better.
01:52:43
Speaker 1: Who's the best team in college right.
01:52:47
Speaker 3: Now? Women.
01:52:47
Speaker 1: USC. It might be USC this year.
01:52:49
Speaker 5: Jazzy Davidson and Juju Watkins?
01:52:51
Speaker 1: I don't know. South Carolina got three top teams. Oh, yes.
01:52:55
Speaker 5: Y'all going to be in the mix for sure.
01:52:57
Speaker 1: CB.
01:52:58
Speaker 3: But y'all didn't lose 85.
01:52:59
Speaker 1: Who's top 10? Or top five? Did y'all win it last year? Y'all in top five. Y'all didn't win it last year? No. Oh, okay. So how can you just sit there and act like y'all the best?
01:53:08
Speaker 4: Who's top preseason top five, please?
01:53:10
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah.
01:53:12
Speaker 5: Who did you guys get this year?
01:53:13
Speaker 1: USC, UConn. Relax. USC, University of South Carolina. University of Southern Cal. Let me see what's going on.
01:53:21
Speaker 5: You guys are two.
01:53:22
Speaker 1: Y'all are two. Who's one? South Carolina. South Carolina.
01:53:25
Speaker 5: Three is USC.
01:53:26
Speaker 1: So USC, not USC. Yeah. That's what we said. Yeah, we didn't say UNC.
01:53:30
Speaker 3: We said USC.
01:53:31
Speaker 1: I said University of South Carolina, University of Southern Cal.
01:53:33
Speaker 3: That's Jazzy and Juju, USC.
01:53:36
Speaker 1: They number one? They're number three.
01:53:38
Speaker 4: They're number three.
01:53:38
Speaker 1: They're number one. South Carolina. South Carolina.
01:53:42
Speaker 3: Number two is UConn.
01:53:43
Speaker 1: They got three.
01:53:44
Speaker 4: What's the coach?
01:53:46
Speaker 1: Don Staley.
01:53:47
Speaker 4: Don Staley.
01:53:47
Speaker 1: That's number one, right? Yes.
01:53:49
Speaker 3: Duke is number four with Toby.
01:53:52
Speaker 1: Where's UNC at? I think they're top 25 this year.
01:53:55
Speaker 3: They're 12. They're 12. They're 12. Where are they.
01:53:59
Speaker 1: At in the men's? We're not ranked.
01:54:02
Speaker 3: Exactly.
01:54:02
Speaker 1: We're not ranked. Irrelevant. But we just got the number two player in the country.
01:54:09
Speaker 3: That was part of your spiel.
01:54:11
Speaker 1: Very irrelevant.
01:54:11
Speaker 5: They weren't getting top recruits anymore.
01:54:13
Speaker 1: Very irrelevant.
01:54:13
Speaker 3: That was part of your argument.
01:54:14
Speaker 4: That was my argument, right?
01:54:15
Speaker 5: That was part of your argument. They got the number two pick.
01:54:16
Speaker 1: You keep saying we're not. You just said irrelevant, and we just got the number two.
01:54:19
Speaker 4: It's been irrelevant for the last.
01:54:21
Speaker 1: C.V., you keep saying we're not.
01:54:23
Speaker 6: So the year before, we got a top five player.
01:54:26
Speaker 1: Then this year, we got a top two player. So how are we irrelevant? We're irrelevant because he keeps
talking about us. It's all good. You feel me?
01:54:37
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say they're irrelevant.
01:54:38
Speaker 3: I would say the results have taken a little bit of a dip, but they're still one of.
01:54:44
Speaker 5: The most relevant basketball runs.
01:54:45
Speaker 1: Because of what?
01:54:47
Speaker 3: Because of their history. Yeah, but that's part of being relevant.
01:54:50
Speaker 1: You still affected to see Wayne Carolina play. No, it's because I sit on the couch with two dudes I went to go off Carolina. Who won that. We just had a fourth pick.
01:54:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:54:58
Speaker 1: That's great.
01:54:59
Speaker 4: When was the last time you guys had a lottery pick? Last year.
01:55:03
Speaker 7: No, I said besides number four pick in Caleb Wilson, who was the last lottery pick?
01:55:12
Speaker 4: Raymond Feller.
01:55:13
Speaker 3: No, Cam Johnson.
01:55:14
Speaker 1: I'm not the last lottery pick. He's the top five pick. He didn't ask the question right. Top five pick.
01:55:22
Speaker 3: It's technically Cam Johnson's the last lottery pick, I think.
01:55:27
Speaker 5: Because he went after Kobe that draft.
01:55:29
Speaker 1: He went after Kobe. We're talking about the University of North Carolina. You're right. Staples. Yes. Fucking uniform inspired. And you know that. You know it too. I appreciate you clarifying that. When you see that. Respect. Yes, exactly. So that's all we need.
01:55:45
Speaker 3: That's all I.
01:55:46
Speaker 1: Wanted you to say. That's all I wanted you to say. That's all I wanted you to say.
01:55:50
Speaker 2: Absolutely. We know.
01:55:50
Speaker 3: Exactly.
01:55:50
Speaker 1: I see that. Respect.
01:55:52
Speaker 3: Can you put the wide on?
01:55:54
Speaker 1: But in 2026, when I see that.
01:55:57
Speaker 3: Put the fish eye.
01:55:58
Speaker 1: Don't you do that.
01:55:59
Speaker 5: To be fair, we do have a UNC jersey hanging up in here.
01:56:02
Speaker 1: Whoa, now.
01:56:04
Speaker 5: Because it is Jordan, though. To be fair.
01:56:06
Speaker 3: This is a history. That matters. That matters. No different than your history. Your history matters, too.
01:56:15
Speaker 1: No, no.
01:56:16
Speaker 4: Our history is way more relevant.
01:56:17
Speaker 3: Your six championships now is history.
01:56:19
Speaker 1: It's relevant more than UNC.
01:56:20
Speaker 5: It's more relevant, but it's still history.
01:56:22
Speaker 1: Still not well.
01:56:22
Speaker 3: Because y'all didn't win last year either, did you?
01:56:24
Speaker 4: You're still not on our level. When you see UNC. You're still not on our level. When you see UNC now.
01:56:30
Speaker 1: Clearly not. We just got a number two play in the country.
01:56:33
Speaker 3: I think... Hold up.
01:56:34
Speaker 1: Look him up. Demarcus Henry. Look him up.
01:56:36
Speaker 3: Hold up. You don't think... Congratulations.
01:56:39
Speaker 5: You don't think teams are bringing their best against UNC?
01:56:41
Speaker 1: Say that one more
time.
01:56:42
Speaker 5: You don't think their teams are bringing their A game against UNC every single time?
01:56:45
Speaker 1: Every time.
01:56:45
Speaker 5: You don't think teams are doing that?
01:56:46
Speaker 1: Ooh. Y'all do.
01:56:48
Speaker 3: You see it?
01:56:49
Speaker 1: Exactly.
01:56:49
Speaker 5: He said when they see your.
01:56:50
Speaker 1: And they tried how many times, right? And still can't beat you? Never. Never beat me? You lost to UConn before? Never. Never.
01:57:00
Speaker 3: All right.
01:57:01
Speaker 1: But you're going back 20 years. You're just asking a question. Right or wrong? Shut up, man.
01:57:06
Speaker 4: When was the last time you were in college, right? My fault, 26 years.
01:57:10
Speaker 2: No, I just asked him when was the last time he lost.
01:57:12
Speaker 1: We just had our 20th anniversary. We just had our 20th anniversary.
01:57:16
Speaker 3: 21 years.
01:57:16
Speaker 1: 21 years. 21 years, yeah, yeah.
01:57:18
Speaker 6: I just asked him, has he ever lost? I didn't, I was just asking if he ever lost to Utah. 26 years ago, that's what you're talking about. Have you beat Carolina before?
01:57:24
Speaker 1: Never. Oh, fair enough. Never beat them.
01:57:28
Speaker 5: They're 5-2 versus them.
01:57:30
Speaker 3: Who?
01:57:31
Speaker 5: They do have the last win, though.
01:57:33
Speaker 1: Who hasn't? UConn has the last win. 2023, December 5th in New York. They won.
01:57:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did.
01:57:37
Speaker 5: They were on a neutral territory. But to be fair, in 2005, February 13th, North Carolina won.
01:57:40
Speaker 1: Ray's team.
01:57:41
Speaker 3: 2004, January 17th, Ray won again. 2003, Ray's team won again.
01:57:44
Speaker 1: Damn.
01:57:44
Speaker 3: Three years in a row.
01:57:45
Speaker 5: Rayman is elite. Rayman is elite.
01:58:03
Speaker 4: All right.
01:58:04
Speaker 1: We're going to bring in.
01:58:06
Speaker 3: The box scores. Crazy to say, but Bron not top nothing right now. I mean, Bron's 42, bro. He tripping.
01:58:14
Speaker 1: That nigga about had a 20. What did he have, 29 and 9 last game?
01:58:18
Speaker 5: Y'all also said.
01:58:18
Speaker 4: Y'all don't do that.
01:58:19
Speaker 1: LeBron's very.
01:58:20
Speaker 3: I think all you guys said when you've seen him play, he is starting to look 42.
01:58:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. He looks 42, but.
01:58:28
Speaker 8: But when they played the Knicks and they had Mikel Bridges on them, you saw they would just feed him and probably he was just dogging them, fam.
01:58:36
Speaker 5: Mikel can't do nothing with them.
01:58:37
Speaker 6: Oklahoma City Thunder will retire Russell Westbrook's number zero jersey in the Raptors February 7th.
01:58:44
Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie.
01:58:45
Speaker 3: Maybe they're waiting for KD to actually retire, but they should retire KD.
01:58:49
Speaker 1: They're going to retire KD. Hopefully.
01:58:51
Speaker 5: You're going to be in the building for that one, I'm assuming.
01:58:54
Speaker 1: That'd be tough. All right.
01:58:56
Speaker 3: 53. Appreciate the $ 10. Curry as great as Braun. Four championships, a piece in the way. Les Tries best shooter ever. United's MVP. Drafted by Golden State. A subpar franchise and turned them into a dynasty. Became global during LeBron's prime.
01:59:13
Speaker 1: Am I doing it?
01:59:16
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say he's on his level. They're not in the same conversation.
01:59:22
Speaker 5: Steph Curry's a tier below. Steph Curry is a tier below.
01:59:26
Speaker 1: Steph Curry is a tier below. Yes.
01:59:29
Speaker 3: He's in a top. He's arguably top 15 to top 10 for people. LeBron's top three argument. So they're not in the same tier.
01:59:36
Speaker 1: Nobody's even debating that.
01:59:37
Speaker 3: They're not in the same tier. But this is the same thing when I said Larry versus Braun. Top three combo versus top 10 combo. Two different conversations.
01:59:47
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Fair enough.
01:59:50
Speaker 3: Philly got a sleeper... Sorry, Dominic. Appreciate the $ 5. Philly got a sleeper MVP in Maxie and sleeper six-man in Anthony Simons. Maxie averaging 30 and team going to be the best.
01:59:59
Speaker 1: Team in the East.
02:00:01
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll win MVP because they'll take votes away from each other.
02:00:06
Speaker 1: Maxie won't win MVP. Yeah, they'll take votes away from each other. Am I tripping? Who's going to take votes away from each other?
02:00:11
Speaker 3: I think when Jalen Brown.
02:00:13
Speaker 1: Please get acclimated. He plays a lot better. It's Maxie shit, bro. It's Maxie shit. No question. It's Maxie shit over there, dog.
02:00:20
Speaker 5: So you guys think he's going to get all the votes for Philadelphia?
02:00:22
Speaker 1: If anybody wins MVP, it'll be Maxie. 22nd time out. Remember when y'all was knocking me?
02:00:27
Speaker 4: When I was like, yo.
02:00:28
Speaker 1: Look at Maxie's fucking, when he came into the league, he got better every year. He's going to keep getting better. I didn't see it.
02:00:34
Speaker 3: We were.
02:00:34
Speaker 2: No, no.
02:00:35
Speaker 1: We were not cooler. We were just saying it was still NB's team. But this year, it's Maxie's team.
02:00:39
Speaker 4: But in the beginning of the season, you guys were saying it was Maxie's team.
02:00:42
Speaker 3: Agreed. I did not agree with you.
02:00:43
Speaker 1: Not this year. You remember how I convinced you that last year we did? You convinced me.
02:00:47
Speaker 3: Actually, no.
02:00:48
Speaker 1: Maxie convinced me.
02:00:49
Speaker 5: Did you remember we just said you were on payroll?
02:00:51
Speaker 1: And y'all was knocking me.
02:00:52
Speaker 3: No, we said you were just on payroll.
02:00:54
Speaker 1: We're saying that?
02:00:55
Speaker 3: We just said you were on payroll.
02:00:56
Speaker 1: Am I still on payroll?
02:00:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're still on payroll.
02:00:57
Speaker 1: With a black truck?
02:00:58
Speaker 3:
Yeah. You're still on payroll.
02:00:59
Speaker 5: Yeah.
02:01:00
Speaker 1: You're still on payroll. Yeah, all right.
02:01:02
Speaker 5: Doesn't mean you're wrong. Doesn't mean it takes away from the validity of your statement, but you're on payroll.
02:01:06
Speaker 3: No offense. Appreciate the $ 5. Appreciate the $ 2, AJ. I need a girlfriend that thinks of me outranking the frauds.
02:01:18
Speaker 1: What do I think about frauds? What do you mean? I don't get it. You don't get it.
02:01:20
Speaker 5: You've been a big supporter of France.
02:01:21
Speaker 1: You've been a big supporter of France.
02:01:22
Speaker 5: Like, last year, like, he's.
02:01:24
Speaker 3: The best player.
02:01:24
Speaker 1: No, no, no.
02:01:25
Speaker 4: He just had his follow team.
02:01:26
Speaker 3: No, but that's because he got hurt. But when we talk about actual play.
02:01:29
Speaker 1: He's an integral pro. I think France is really good.
02:01:32
Speaker 5: That's all he's saying.
02:01:33
Speaker 3: You support France. That's all he's saying.
02:01:34
Speaker 1: We'll go get you a girl then, my nigga. Okay.
02:01:41
Speaker 5: All right, $ 10 from the King Ace Sprints.
02:01:44
Speaker 3: The line that is getting crossed is the better player versus who's playing better now. Cooper is not better than KD. However, he's playing better now. We have to look at the play and not just the player.
02:01:53
Speaker 1: I agree.
02:01:54
Speaker 4: Yo, King Ace, I'm telling you, you'd be saying some good shit.
02:01:57
Speaker 1: I respect that. I'm with it.
02:01:59
Speaker 3: I respect King Ace.
02:02:00
Speaker 1: Anytime he speaks, it's some good shit.
02:02:02
Speaker 5: I think this is just directed towards you, Ray. You got anything to say?
02:02:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm talking to Ray. For sure. Number two. I don't know what Ray be on, fam. Ask the chat. Put it in the poll. Who won today?
02:02:13
Speaker 3: MVP of the day?
02:02:15
Speaker 1: Who's MVP? Me? I'm always MVP.
02:02:18
Speaker 3: No, you are not the MVP today.
02:02:20
Speaker 1: Okay, let the people decide.
02:02:22
Speaker 3: Am I basing it on the chat early? Because they're the whole Cooper thing?
02:02:26
Speaker 1: No, the chat fucks with me. You are not winning today. They fuck with my position, Paul. My position on the Cooper shit. No, they did not.
02:02:35
Speaker 3: Were you on the chat?
02:02:37
Speaker 4: Yo, CV trolls, but he makes good points.
02:02:39
Speaker 1: He do. 100% you do.
02:02:41
Speaker 5: Yes, but because of the whole Cooper argument.
02:02:43
Speaker 4: Because I make a very valid point.
02:02:46
Speaker 3: I don't know if the people are.
02:02:47
Speaker 8: When was the last time we seen a white man be the face of the league?
02:02:50
Speaker 1: But nobody wants to talk about it. Larry Bird.
02:02:54
Speaker 3: It looks like Theo's kind of taking. Oh, Charlie's 38% now.
02:02:58
Speaker 1: Come on, bro.
02:02:59
Speaker 5: Charlie, don't vote for yourself.
02:03:00
Speaker 2: I'm not.
02:03:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are.
02:03:01
Speaker 1: Look at him.
02:03:03
Speaker 3: It might be CB.
02:03:07
Speaker 1: It might be CB. I stay cooking y'all, bro. Respectfully. Fuck out of here.
02:03:15
Speaker 4: I can fuck my shit right now.
02:03:19
Speaker 1: We fuck with you because you funny, man. Respectfully. I'm cooking y'all niggas. You got the most fans, though. You do. It got nothing to do with fans.
02:03:28
Speaker 3: It does.
02:03:30
Speaker 1: It does.
02:03:31
Speaker 3: You're the most popular cast member.
02:03:34
Speaker 1: Yes, you really are. You're the most popular cast member. Look, they say CB just be the funniest.
02:03:37
Speaker 4: Not just one person said that.
02:03:40
Speaker 3: Hey, chat, can you let us know?
02:03:42
Speaker 1: Okay.
02:03:42
Speaker 3: Who?
02:03:43
Speaker 1: No, no. Let the chat know. That shit's bothering me.
02:03:47
Speaker 3: We gon' get to it.
02:03:49
Speaker 1: We gon' get to it.
02:03:50
Speaker 3: We got four more, so let's get through them. Cousin Javi.
02:03:54
Speaker 5: I guess it's Javi, I'm assuming.
02:03:55
Speaker 1: Yo, CB speak the real shit, no filter.
02:03:58
Speaker 3: Yo, he's running away.
02:03:59
Speaker 1: He's 52%.
02:03:59
Speaker 5: Come on, what are we talking about?
02:04:01
Speaker 3: All right, let me get through the super chat so you can get the shit off.
02:04:04
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate the content, fellas.
02:04:07
Speaker 3: Gonna be a great season.
02:04:08
Speaker 1: Yo, chill with this racist shit, bro.
02:04:10
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a good season.
02:04:12
Speaker 3: All right, next one.
02:04:13
Speaker 1: Folks with the whites.
02:04:14
Speaker 3: KD dropped 31st game against Dallas. Heard you. Heard you. Did you see.
02:04:20
Speaker 1: KD dunk on Gafford? Oh, yeah. Goodness gracious.
02:04:24
Speaker 3: KD's been great for so long, so I think some people under, I'm part of that population that take it for granted. Keon Stackhouse, please send another message. Appreciate the $ 1.
02:04:35
Speaker 1: I'm a home guy. You see that? People fuck with you, huh? Anyways. So, what happened? It's November 1st. Are we going to talk about it?
02:04:41
Speaker 4: LaserJet.
02:04:41
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
02:04:42
Speaker 3: LaserJet, $ 10. CV plays around, but he's not a racist. LOL. His point is death worth discussion.
02:04:47
Speaker 5: The NBA's predominating black league.
02:04:49
Speaker 1: Thank you.
02:04:49
Speaker 5: And connecting with the black community is really important for their marketing.
02:04:52
Speaker 1: God damn it, Slazer. That's what the fuck I've been saying.
02:04:56
Speaker 3: Yes, but the league may say they want more white fans and they could push that narrative. That's what they.
02:05:00
Speaker 1: But the whole league... Okay, if you look at the white... Look it up. Ex-Gemini.
02:05:06
Speaker 3: I don't like Gemini.
02:05:08
Speaker 4: Are the most fans?
02:05:10
Speaker 1: Whites.
02:05:11
Speaker 4: Y'all know that, right?
02:05:12
Speaker 1: Okay.
02:05:14
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
02:05:16
Speaker 1: I'm confused on where you're going.
02:05:17
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm just saying.
02:05:18
Speaker 5: Okay, let's save this for the rest of Super Chat. Let's finish with Super Chat.
02:05:22
Speaker 1: We got one more.
02:05:24
Speaker 4: They got to fucking cater to the black community somehow.
02:05:26
Speaker 3: All right, so everybody knows this is the last Super Chat we're reading.
02:05:29
Speaker 5: If you send in a Super.
02:05:30
Speaker 3: Chat, because people got to get out of here, we're reading it tomorrow. Last one we're reading. CV, remember y'all was knocking me. Red flag, accountability.
02:05:37
Speaker 4: That was crazy.
02:05:38
Speaker 1: I don't even know what we're knocking for. That was knocking me? I don't know why we're... No, I think we're... He's saying... Oh.
02:05:44
Speaker 5: The pause?
02:05:44
Speaker 1: He's saying, Steve, he said that. Oh. Y'all was knocking me. No, we wasn't.
02:05:47
Speaker 3: No, he's talking with a red flag.
02:05:50
Speaker 1: No, that's... He needs a red flag.
02:05:52
Speaker 3: You need a red flag for that. Y'all was knocking me. All right, Steve, you get your shit off, man. Oh, shit.
02:05:59
Speaker 4: See, as a white man, I stand with CV. I respect it, bro. Yo, at the end of the day.
02:06:04
Speaker 3: I don't think Mike is white, though.
02:06:05
Speaker 1: Yo, what you do, Ray? Look at my camera. You just fucking.
02:06:11
Speaker 2: No, no, no, nothing.
02:06:11
Speaker 5: Wrong with the camera. You just have to lift that up. You got to loosen that.
02:06:14
Speaker 4: Whoa.
02:06:16
Speaker 3: He's going to.
02:06:17
Speaker 5: Remove the torque or tension from that.
02:06:19
Speaker 3: The torque?
02:06:21
Speaker 5: You got to break shit.
02:06:22
Speaker 1: Ray, you keep hitting my shit.
02:06:27
Speaker 3: This guy no.
02:06:28
Speaker 1: I'm not you keep what that was wild yeah rare flag my nigga you keep that's why I said no I'm not that's a rare flag what the fuck is happening that's a rare.
02:06:38
Speaker 9: Flag alright get your shit off bro get my shit off real quick go ahead laser laser you made a very valid point at the end of the day you have to cater to the black community and how do you cater to a black community you make the face of the league a black player.
02:06:55
Speaker 1: Okay That's all I'm saying. But our point is... You know what the... Yo, let's be fucking real, bro. Yes. Fucking Cooper could be the fucking... The man. But at the end of the day, they're going to cater to the black community. Have to. It's the only way. How else are you going... Am I saying some wild shit? Yes.
02:07:18
Speaker 3: I don't think you're saying anything wild. I just disagree with it.
02:07:21
Speaker 8: How you disagree? When was the last time the league catered or made a.
02:07:26
Speaker 5: Again, you can't answer my question.
02:07:27
Speaker 3: When was the last time the league has had a cold-ass player that can be the best player in the league?
02:07:32
Speaker 1: Dirk Nowitzki.
02:07:33
Speaker 3: Dirk was not from America. Steve is not from America.
02:07:37
Speaker 1: America. He has to be from America.
02:07:38
Speaker 3: I said American.
02:07:39
Speaker 1: We've agreed on that. But why does it have to be from America?
02:07:41
Speaker 3: Because you say, we can find footage of you saying it matters if the player is American.
02:07:47
Speaker 1: We can find footage of that. Yeah, I know that. Okay.
02:07:50
Speaker 3: When's the last time we've seen another white guy that's from America as cool as Cooper Flay?
02:07:57
Speaker 1: Y'all tell me. I don't know, chat. Y'all tell me. exactly there hasn't been one okay so there hasn't been one yes John Stockton John Stockton.
02:08:09
Speaker 3: He was not as cold as him okay.
02:08:13
Speaker 1: I don't know I gotta do some research there gotta be somebody.
02:08:16
Speaker 3: No way he came into the league with Michael Jordan okay.
02:08:18
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this Lean assist of all time.
02:08:21
Speaker 3: He came in the league with Michael Jordan.
02:08:23
Speaker 1: Lean assist of all time. Michael Jordan was in the league, right? Michael Jordan was in America. Yeah, he didn't have a shot. He had to be from America, right?
02:08:29
Speaker 3: Yes. I don't think you have to be, but it's a lot easier for them to make you the face of the league. If Shea was born in America, now, if Shea was raised in America, because he went to prep school and everything like that, I say that all the time, he's a product of the American system, but if Shea was born in America, he would have already been the face of the league.
02:08:44
Speaker 5: If Luka was American, he would be the face of the league.
02:08:46
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? What do you mean?
02:08:49
Speaker 4: We already said that. Wemby's going to be the face of the league.
02:08:53
Speaker 3: I didn't say that.
02:08:55
Speaker 1: First of all, I told you Ant-Man was. He's too hood for him. That's what we need.
02:09:02
Speaker 5: But he needs PR training.
02:09:03
Speaker 1: He's just a little too hood.
02:09:06
Speaker 3: Are we going to put Keith Van Horn in the same conversation? Because someone said Keith Van Horn.
02:09:09
Speaker 1: Can we put D.
02:09:11
Speaker 4: Will in the conversation?
02:09:13
Speaker 1: Because they're saying Lewis Hamilton, Barack Obama. If D.
02:09:17
Speaker 3: Will was....
02:09:19
Speaker 1: LeBron James was still in the league, bro. Yeah, that's fair enough. Hey, man, Kobe.
02:09:24
Speaker 3: What about Steph Curry? If you say D-Wills, Steph Curry.
02:09:28
Speaker 1: LeBron James was still in the league.
02:09:31
Speaker 3: Steph Curry's biracial.
02:09:32
Speaker 1: Until that man leaves. His mama's not. It is over.
02:09:39
Speaker 3: His mama's biracial as well?
02:09:40
Speaker 1: Hold on. Wait a minute. Hold on.
What is his mama?
02:09:45
Speaker 3: Ooh.
02:09:47
Speaker 4: Steph Curry.
02:09:48
Speaker 1: Half black, half white. She's mixed. No. Don't tell me that.
02:09:51
Speaker 3: She is mixed. She's mixed. Oh, no, no.
02:09:54
Speaker 5: They say she's African-American, Creole, and Haitian.
02:09:58
Speaker 1: She's not fucking white.
02:09:59
Speaker 3: But no, but then it says Steph Curry.
02:10:01
Speaker 1: Because if he was.
02:10:02
Speaker 3: Hang on. It says Steph Curry's lighter skin tones and features are a result of multi-generational mixed ancestry on both sides of their family.
02:10:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Is he white?
02:10:10
Speaker 3: No.
02:10:11
Speaker 4: But if he was, I was going to be on the tail.
02:10:15
Speaker 1: Is he not going to say, oh, Tiger Woods and Lewis Hamilton was the face of the league? Okay, nah.
02:10:20
Speaker 2: I just said LeBron James is still in the league, and you still, and you was like, you're right. LeBron James is still in the league. It doesn't matter. Even Steph Curry, LeBron James is still in the league. No one was passing LeBron James.
02:10:35
Speaker 1: I guess I'm wrong. I didn't know that. I learned something new.
02:10:39
Speaker 6: LeBron James is still in the league. Cooper Flack, there's not been a badass white man.
02:10:42
Speaker 1: Hold on, so y'all three agree with the fact that Cooper Flack could potentially be the face of the league? I think he can.
02:10:49
Speaker 5: I think there's a potential.
02:10:50
Speaker 3: Now, how.
02:10:52
Speaker 3: That's like 2% because I'll say I don't think he has a personality for it.
02:10:56
Speaker 5: I think he's very reserved. I don't think it has to do with him being white. More so with him being just not.
02:11:05
Speaker 3: You got to think about it, right?
02:11:07
Speaker 1: People gravitate. Let's speak about it. Color doesn't mean anything. If you have the talent to be that, it doesn't. It doesn't? If Cooper Flagg is a bet. It doesn't, right?
02:11:18
Speaker 8: In America, 2026, color doesn't mean anything. People don't want to talk about it.
02:11:22
Speaker 6: If LeBron James was white and he did what he did, he'd be the face of the league.
02:11:26
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this question.
02:11:28
Speaker 3: Have people always gravitated towards AI and Shaq? Do people always gravitate towards Kobe?
02:11:36
Speaker 1: Yeah.
02:11:36
Speaker 5: Do people always gravitate towards MJ?
02:11:38
Speaker 3: I wasn't aware. Do people gravitate towards LeBron? I don't think people gravitate towards Cooper like that.
02:11:43
Speaker 1: I agree.
02:11:44
Speaker 3: But that has nothing to do with him being white. That has to do with his personality. Like, Ant is a magnet for attention. People love Ant.
02:11:50
Speaker 1: I just think people don't want to say it. People just don't want to say it. But I will. It's because of that. But... Yeah, okay.
02:11:59
Speaker 3: You got anything else you want to get off your chest?
02:12:02
Speaker 1: That's it.
02:12:05
Speaker 3: Deal.
02:12:06
Speaker 1: Alright.
02:12:08
Speaker 2: Well....
02:12:10
Speaker 1: People say, yo, my views are 100 years ago.
02:12:12
Speaker 3: It's not.
02:12:14
Speaker 1: It still exists.
02:12:15
Speaker 5: CB ran away with today's votes, by the way.
02:12:17
Speaker 3: Huh? He ran away with it.
02:12:18
Speaker 1: Of course I'm going to run through the votes, bro. We got to stop doing this. Like, the sneaker shit, we might have to stop. We've only won twice. We might have to stop.
02:12:26
Speaker 2: Huh?
02:12:26
Speaker 3: We might have to stop.
02:12:28
Speaker 4: Can we stop doing the sneaker shit?
02:12:30
Speaker 1: No, the MVP, you only won twice. Ray won one day. I won one day. I think me and him won the other day. I stayed running. I'm running through everything, fam.
02:12:37
Speaker 3: Theo's got one. Ray's got one. And I think Charlie's got one.
02:12:40
Speaker 1: You're only winning because you liked the most. Oh, so they don't like you.
02:12:45
Speaker 5: I think you're the most popular.
02:12:46
Speaker 3: I don't know.
02:12:46
Speaker 1: That's what you mean. It's a popularity vote. I'm going to do the face? Yeah.
02:12:52
Speaker 3: Kind of, yeah.
02:12:52
Speaker 1: Okay, I respect that.
02:12:53
Speaker 3: You might be.
02:12:54
Speaker 4: And what am I? Why can't Hong be the face?
02:12:58
Speaker 1: They don't like Hong.
02:12:59
Speaker 3: No, it's right. They don't like me.
02:13:00
Speaker 5: I'm not white. Don't ever say that again.
02:13:02
Speaker 4: They definitely don't like me.
02:13:02
Speaker 3: I'm not white.
02:13:03
Speaker 1: Scott? I'm not white. He said Scott. Fair enough.
02:13:06
Speaker 3: I'm not white.
02:13:07
Speaker 2: That's why you keep winning Snickers shit, because you've got more followers on this damn shit.
02:13:11
Speaker 4: That's what we going with now?
02:13:13
Speaker 1: You went with some titties. I didn't say that. This shit was booty. LBs, niggas. New York shit. Nigga won with some Tims. You did win with some Tims. But they were LBs, though. Hold on. I won with some Tims. That should say something about. Kanye wins LBs. That should say something about his selections. Y'all got to stop putting me against y'all. Oh, God.
02:13:33
Speaker 4: I'm the face of the league.
02:13:36
Speaker 1: Put some respect.
02:13:38
Speaker 3: You may be the face of the Baja, for real. You may be.
02:13:41
Speaker 1: I'm the face, bro.
02:13:45
Speaker 5: By the way, please don't ever call me white again.
02:13:47
Speaker 1: I apologize.
02:13:48
Speaker 5: I'm not white.
02:13:49
Speaker 2: That's another shot to the Baja, man.
02:13:54
Speaker 6: Make sure y'all download the Better app and use the promo code Baja. We appreciate the love. We'll be back same time tomorrow, 12 to 2 each time, 11 once in a time.
02:14:02
Speaker 2: I'll be out tomorrow, so I'll get my black ass up out of here. Y'all have Hong to be hosting. Dad will be back tomorrow.
02:14:09
Speaker 1: You out tomorrow? I'll be out tomorrow. But it's a real nigga birthday week. Birthday on Thursday. Okay. Appreciate y'all, man. Come here. Nick 31. So, Hong Kong cinema?
02:14:20
Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
02:14:20
Speaker 1: Come on. Let's go. Why? Why are you leaving Vietnam yesterday? Hey, that'll be another show to the Baja. We'll see y'all tomorrow. Appreciate the love.
02:14:28
Speaker 3: Hong! We out.
02:14:29
Speaker 1: Are you leaving?
02:14:30
Speaker 3: Peace. Hong Kong!