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lays it up for Freeman. What a catch. As
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you see, or did he make the catch?
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One of the great throws ever made. He
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did what?
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>> Welcome back to Derailed. I'm your host
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JJ Ley. Starting off the episode today
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solo. Not really what I wanted to do,
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but a little bit little bitty work
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emergency pulled Jake off. Um, he said
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he's going to be here shortly hopefully.
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So,
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bear with me. Have some grace for me.
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Definitely keep all the comments in the
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chat. Keep it hopping so I have somebody
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to talk to because I'm used to doing
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derailed with Jake and with you guys.
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So, you know, with Jake not being here,
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I at least need the other third co-host
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of this show, which is the chat. Um,
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we're going to be talking today
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hopefully if if provide everything goes
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according to plan and Jake's there will
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join. Hopefully, we're going to have um
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the big Jonathan Ganon discussion, which
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I think think will be interesting. I
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heard a uh a couple good podcasts this
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week. I don't I don't listen to a lot of
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Packers podcasts, but I listened to a
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couple um some of them were older, some
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of them were newer talking about other
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podcasters thoughts on Jonathan Ganon
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and I really appreciate some of the
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insights that we were getting from other
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podcasters
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[clears throat] to for this asks who is
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Joe Nathan Ganon?
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Be lying if I said that I haven't said
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his name that way to myself a few times.
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[laughter] But we're also going to talk
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about the uh new Packers that we added.
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Uh there were three waiver claims this
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week. Tight end Luke Lache uh failed his
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physical, so he is not going to be added
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to the team, but MJ Devin and Brendan
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Rice, those
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guys are on the team, so
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we'll have to talk about them. Uh Iowa
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Joe says, "Do you at least listen to
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mine?" No. Uh I have haven't really
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listened to a ton of yours. I I really,
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like I said, I don't listen to hardly
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any Packers podcasts. I think I listened
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to
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two
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episodes of Packers podcasts in the last
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like eight months and they were both
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this week. Um, and it was I was I was
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just curious what other podcasters were
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thinking about Jonathan Ganon, but um I
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really I don't listen to Packers
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podcast. I listen to podcasts on topics
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that I don't feel knowledgeable about.
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So, I listen to a lot of baseball
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podcasts um and some other non-sports
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topics as well, but I'm I I really keep
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tuned into stuff that I feel like I
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don't know anything about because I'm
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really just desperate to desperate to
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learn. So, but Joe, I I appreciate you
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being in the chat here. Um, and if you
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have um Joe, if you have an episode of
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your pod that you think is especially
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good, first of all, put it in the chat
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and I'll put it on the screen so that
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people can get recommended to go check
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it out and I'll check it out. So, um,
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yeah. So, uh, Joe and, uh, Mike Kuano
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are co-hosts obviously of Alana Packers
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edition, isn't it? Edition. It's OP.
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It's the OP podcast, but I always forget
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what the E is. It's Ohana Packers
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because it used to be um Oh, Joe, what
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was what was the ' 04 originally? It
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wasn't like Oklahoma. It was something
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else. Outback. Didn't you have an
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Australian or are you Australian? You're
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not Australian, but your your co your
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your old co-host was Australian. So, it
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was like the Outback Packers, right? I
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remember that. I remember that. Um, hey,
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here's some news. Here's some news. We
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have a Where's the picture? Here we go.
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We have a website now. Check it out.
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packerpro.com.
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So, you can uh get our live streams on
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here, you can get the podcast feed and a
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lot of Packers news. And this is where
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we're going to be putting some other
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cool tools down the road. Um, you know,
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draft database type stuff, maybe
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writeups on players. Go check it out.
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Packerpro.com.
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Previously, packerpro.com was just
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pointing to our YouTube page. Uh, but
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now it also has all this good stuff. So,
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you can still get to the YouTube page
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really quickly by hitting watch the show
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up here. But go check that out. Pretty
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please. Let's talk about Brendan Rice.
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Brendan Rice.
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Here we go. Uh, Packers claimed him.
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Yes, he is the son of Jerry Rice.
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And
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I don't understand why we picked him up.
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I really don't. Uh he didn't have a very
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impressive college career.
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He logged 469 snaps his final year at
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USC and he was like kind of okay. It was
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kind of the first time he'd been any
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kind of decent.
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That was uh 2023.
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I I I don't really understand what we're
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doing here. Both MJ Devvinure and
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Brendan Rice who we brought in both
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don't seem like they've been able to do
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anything in the now two years that
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they've been in the league. Looking at
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Brendan Rice again that final year there
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was like a little something something.
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Uh but he got drafted in the seventh
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round. He had just a couple interesting
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games. The Oregon game, this is a road
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game. Uh he played at USC. His road game
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at Oregon was probably the only game
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that was really that terribly
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interesting. Um 6' 3", 210 lbs.
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I don't know. He's like
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he's like a prototypical sort of
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developmental X, I guess.
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And maybe prototypical and and
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developmental are not really words you
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want to use together at the same time,
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but [laughter]
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um I don't know. He's
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He's got like um some red zone danger to
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him, I guess. Maybe a little bit
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interesting on special teams.
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Interesting. He He did um
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in Let me see here. What year was this?
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In 2020,
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oh gosh, where'd it go? Yeah, in 2025
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he was doing kick returns
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in the preseason.
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Um, PFF doesn't say he was terribly good
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at them, but he did get a few cracks at
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it. So, I don't know. I really don't
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understand why we'd bring him in here. I
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I feel like if his last name was Smith,
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you know, would you have brought him in?
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I Joe says, "I see it as a eh might as
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well kind of pick up." Yeah, I kind of
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agree. Kind of agree.
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The the Luke Lachche signing I I would
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have been I was really excited about
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that until until he failed his physical.
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Um but like Brendan Rice, he's got the
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size, I guess. Um decent catch radius,
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decently strong. Um,
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but like even in college just couldn't
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couldn't separate. I did from the the
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games that I watched and I watched a bit
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of them at at Oregon.
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The release was just nothing special.
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Deep ball tracking not that good.
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Doesn't seem like he has a very
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developed route tree.
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Again, like other than the last name,
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I'm just not sure why he's still getting
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cracks in the NFL.
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Um,
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again, the the red zone in 2023, he had
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a pretty decent touchdown production. He
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had 12 touchdowns.
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He had uh 45 catches that year. So,
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that's more than 25% of his of his
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receptions went for a touchdown.
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And I mean it figures when you look at
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his eyes and he he does have the
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physicality that down in the red zone is
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a spot where you would be expecting him
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to win.
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Um and I felt like I felt like uh
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he was decently strong at the catch
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point which is something that you do see
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on his scouting profiles.
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um like the Steelers Depot was probably
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the um scouting report that um I spent
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the most time reading and they were
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talking about um that they liked his
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ability to extend away from his frame
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and work back to the ball. I didn't see
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that a ton when I was watching him, but
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I didn't watch him a ton. He just wasn't
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very very interesting, frankly.
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Um so I I would say the probably the
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special teams experience is the most
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interesting thing here.
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when he was at Colorado. So, he was at
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Colorado for two years and then USC for
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two years. And at Colorado, he had um
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let me see here. In 2021, he had 17
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kickoff returns for 469 yards. It's 27.6
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yards per return.
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That's 14th nationally and third in the
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Pack 12,
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including he had an 81 yard punt return
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for a touchdown. So,
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you know, if you're looking for
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something to be kind of interested in,
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I'd be interested to see him getting
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some looks at returner in the summer and
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in the preseason. What about you?
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Anybody uh have thoughts on Mr. Brendan
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Rice? Don't forget to uh if you're if
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you're watching this back later and
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you're not doing the live stream, do
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leave comments on the YouTube video
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because we do read them. We do respond.
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Uh let's see here. MJ Devvinshure
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is the other guy that we picked up.
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Devincure. So, he's a cornerback. We got
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um
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he
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Here we go.
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Devon sure.
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Come on.
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Be annoying.
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All right, Devinure was
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drafted in the seventh round by the
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Raiders. He spent a little bit of time
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with Baltimore and then we picked him up
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off waiverss from the Chargers.
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This said maybe Brendon Rice is a LeBron
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Bronny situation and Jerry will come out
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of retirement. I wouldn't say no to
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that. If there's one cat who probably
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could still do it at his age, Jerry Rice
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is probably that guy. Probably that guy.
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Devonshire.
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Uh, again, the similarities here with
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Brendan Rice would be that from a size
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standpoint, he's kind of got it, even if
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the development leaves some
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room for growth. [laughter]
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Um, actually, I forgot.
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We didn't get him from the Chargers. We
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got We got Brendon Rice from the
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Chargers. I got the two mixed up because
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they both um spent time with the
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Raiders. We got Devonshire from Buffalo.
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So, he was a seventh round pick by the
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Raiders in 2024.
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And
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I think that he's maybe a little more
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interesting than just like
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camp body fodder, right?
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But
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I'm also not sure that
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I would be pumping pumping up the gas of
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like, hey, this is a hidden gem here. He
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seems to me like maybe somebody who
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could impress and stick around on the
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practice squad.
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[clears throat]
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He's got uh again some special teams
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value and also a little bit of ball
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hawking juice as well, which you'll
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like.
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I think that maybe the lack of agility
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and the tackling concerns and also just
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the penalties
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probably
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has you um sort of understanding why he
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he's bounced around from practice squad
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to practice squad.
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But obviously
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the Packers see something here and and I
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I don't think they're crazy. I think I
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with Brendan Rice, I'd say like being
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excited about Brendon Rice is more or
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less crazy. MJ Devin, I don't think it's
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as crazy, especially even though from a
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numbers standpoint, the quarterback room
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is getting a little crowded. We got
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Keshan, Cece, Valentine, St. Juiced
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Deonte Jackson, Kamal Haden,
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[sighs]
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Shamar Bartholomew,
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Jaylen Simpson. Although, you know,
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safety corner versatility there.
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Even though it's a little bit crowded
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from a numbers standpoint, I don't know
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that the talent is blowing you away.
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You know, I'm not sure that there's a
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ton of guys ahead of him that you would
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say are are clearly better.
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Devinure played at Kentucky and then
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transferred to Pit.
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He is
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kind of a tall, lengthy dude,
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very confident. I'd say he's got like
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press confidence plus zone eyes. How
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about that?
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The breakaway speed on tape is fine.
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Even if he's not
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uh not super explosive, the long speed
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is there.
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Probably the biggest thing that you're
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worried about with Oh, I've been making
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us look at Brendon Rice still. See, this
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is the problem with not having a
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co-host. When Jake is on here, every
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time he starts talking, I have time to
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do all the producer stuff like putting
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the right picture on screen. [laughter]
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The big thing that that makes you
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nervous about um about Devin Shure is
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really the grabbiness. Like, and this is
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probably probably the reason why he
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hasn't gotten any playing time at all in
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the NFL.
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Like, you're pretty darn worried that,
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you know, number one, he goes out there
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and any savvy quarterback is immediately
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going to go, "Don't know who that guy
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is. Let's target him." You're probably
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going to get pass interference.
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pretty high likelihood tool that says no
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Chris. Yeah, Chris isn't available
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tonight unfortunately. Uh he's got some
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fun plans going on. Talked to him
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earlier today.
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I'd say like definitely there's room
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here for Devonshire to make the roster
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as like CB6, maybe CB5 for sure. And if
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he can make some special teams
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contributions,
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that certainly boosts his case. And the
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ball hawking is definitely intriguing.
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He had uh 10 pass breakups, four
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interceptions. This is just in one year,
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2023. 10 pass breakups, four
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interceptions,
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uh 415 year 115 yards, including he had
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an 86yard pick six against Louisville.
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He led pit in interceptions, led the ACC
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in pass breakups per game and
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interception return yards. second team
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all ACC.
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In 2022, he had 34 tackles, eight pass
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breakups, three intersection
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interceptions, two pick sixes, and an 82
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yard punt return touchdown. So again,
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both these guys who we did add have
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return man versatility. And I would say
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like don't ink Sky Moore as the bonafide
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return man because the Packers have been
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kicking tires on returners
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and for and like with Sky Moore like
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that's kind of all he provides. It's
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just the return man
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factor, you know? He I I don't want him
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playing offense.
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So he's kind of a zone corner
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predominantly. I would say Iowa Joe says
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too grabby. That sounds like harassment.
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Well, you know, in
football only, not in
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real life, but in football only. If you
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can get away with being grabby,
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you should do it. In real life, don't.
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It's terrible advice in real life.
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People won't like you.
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uh at pit in Pat Narduzi's defense
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which was super super zone heavy uh they
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had 72 almost 73% of snaps coming in
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zone.
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Um he's a guy who can read through the
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route to the quarterback from off
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coverage.
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Long arms can help really challenge
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throws.
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That length really is the most exciting
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thing. Again, like these two guys kind
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of the same player on opposite sides of
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the ball.
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Milto says, "Sky was a pretty good
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receiver in college." It was a long time
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ago. We We've gotten to see him in the
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NFL and it ain't pretty. It ain't
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pretty.
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Um, I'd say both of these guys, Devinure
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and Rice, kind of have those splash
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plays as their like length and splash
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plays.
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opposite sides of the ball, same
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highlights,
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but like how how much is that going to
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translate into the pros? Especially when
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you can't stop being grabby, can't stop
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drawing penalties. You're not going to
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get a lot of playing time.
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Good straight straight line athleticism
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at a 44540. And I'd say I think that he
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looked a little bit faster than that uh
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top end speed on the field. Again, like
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he just wasn't that explosive,
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but then he did have kind of that
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breakaway speed.
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Uh 727 RA
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scheme versatility.
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Um, he has some nickel
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versatility, but probably you're looking
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at him as mostly a boundary corner.
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Our lads mentioned that he had uh
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significant experience in off press man,
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outside
zone, and some nickel work.
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Do you guys think that Brennan Rice or
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De MJ Devvin are going to make the 53?
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I do wonder. I do wonder. I think that
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that cornerback room still to me feels
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very very very unsettled.
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Tool for this said that's why we drafted
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smack instead of signing Tucker. Well,
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this is the thing. You get grabby,
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you're going to get smacked.
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Trey smacked.
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Joe says no. Neither one of them have an
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opportunity to make the 53.
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Devinure to me certainly feels like a
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strong strong candidate for the practice
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squad
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and that's not nothing.
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Uh you guys want to talk about the
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schedule release the NFL the the Packers
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schedule.
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I like it a lot. I'm curious what you
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guys think about it. I felt like it sets
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up really, really nicely
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for [snorts]
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us to
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head into the postseason feeling really
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strong. Uh, as a couple people have
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noted, we play just a bajillion of our
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games
00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:09.909
in the
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last stretch there. Where's my bookmark?
00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:17.430
Where'd it go? Of course, it's gone. All
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right, I'll just do it manually. So, we
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have
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we're at home. Our last We're going
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backwards. Starting in week 18, we'll
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work backwards. So, home versus the
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Lions, home versus the Texans, at the
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Bears on Christmas, home versus the
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Dolphins, home versus the Bills, on the
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road at New Orleans,
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on the road at Los Angeles. That Rams
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game on Thanksgiving Eve, I'm feeling
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really good about that. Obviously, we'll
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have to see, you know, how the two teams
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are trending at that point. But that to
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me feels like
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[sighs] even if things are kind of
00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.149
sputtering
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before then,
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that to me feels like a game where we're
00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:01.430
going to come out, it's going to be a
00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:03.190
banger, I think we're going to win it. I
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think we're going to have a really,
00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:06.950
really fun game against the Rams. And
00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:08.870
then you're heading into this this home
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stretch here where you only have two
00:21:11.679 --> 00:21:17.510
road games. And um and so it's
00:21:17.520 --> 00:21:19.350
it's
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starting with the Rams, it's road road,
00:21:21.520 --> 00:21:25.190
home home road, home home.
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And that byee, you know, it's been
00:21:27.360 --> 00:21:30.390
historically not
00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:31.990
a great experience for the Packers
00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:34.470
coming off the by-week, but as Matt
00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:35.830
Laflur noted, it's going to be a really
00:21:35.840 --> 00:21:38.149
short by week. And then he see he he
00:21:38.159 --> 00:21:40.470
called it a mini buy. And then you have
00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:42.630
another miniby coming off of that
00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:44.950
Wednesday Thanksgiving game,
00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:49.029
Thanksgiving Eve game.
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Let me see here. Tool for this says the
00:21:51.360 --> 00:21:53.029
Chargers are still the kings of the
00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:54.310
schedule releases, but I love what the
00:21:54.320 --> 00:21:56.789
Packers did.
00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.669
Uh, the two long mini buys in lie of a
00:21:59.679 --> 00:22:02.310
regular length buy at the end of season
00:22:02.320 --> 00:22:05.270
is interesting.
00:22:05.280 --> 00:22:06.789
Joe also says, "I have to give the
00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:08.230
Packers media credit for what they did
00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:09.430
for their release." I actually didn't
00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:11.510
look at it. Let's look at it together. I
00:22:11.520 --> 00:22:15.270
um I looked at the I looked at the uh
00:22:15.280 --> 00:22:17.510
schedule itself, but I didn't watch
00:22:17.520 --> 00:22:20.310
their their presentation. Let's let's
00:22:20.320 --> 00:22:24.950
pull it up. Look at it together. Be fun.
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Why can't I Oh, it's I got to take the
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picture off. So annoying. Okay.
00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:32.549
Is this the one? Playing our curds,
00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:35.029
right? Is this it? I think so. Let me
00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:36.310
make sure. Let me reshare this. Make
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sure I'm sharing with audio.
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sharing with audio. Okay.
00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:44.870
Uh it's the studio that made Robot
00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:49.830
Chicken. So Seth Green Studio,
00:22:49.840 --> 00:22:52.070
if I remember correctly, I can't go full
00:22:52.080 --> 00:22:53.430
screen or you
guys can't hear it. So
00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:54.310
what I'm going to do instead is I'm
00:22:54.320 --> 00:22:57.430
going to zoom in.
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>> Welcome to Kicking Curds Arcade.
00:22:59.840 --> 00:23:01.190
>> You only have enough tickets for those
00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:02.710
cheese skirt rings or cur
00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:05.669
>> or that foam cheese sword.
00:23:05.679 --> 00:23:07.510
You are like a thousand tickets short to
00:23:07.520 --> 00:23:09.190
>> not if we pull all our tickets together.
00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:13.590
Josh, it glows. [screaming]
00:23:13.600 --> 00:23:16.870
>> Tickets. Going to get my dagger.
00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:17.669
>> I love this.
00:23:17.679 --> 00:23:18.310
>> What's that?
00:23:18.320 --> 00:23:19.430
>> Let's go see.
00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:27.190
>> Oh, it's Jake's wheel.
00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:29.350
Sus.
00:23:29.360 --> 00:23:30.789
>> You guys remember the Packers were so
00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:31.990
boring.
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:34.470
>> You've got to be kidding me. That's
00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:35.510
right. And if you want [clears throat]
00:23:35.520 --> 00:23:37.669
to make it out in time for the 2026
00:23:37.679 --> 00:23:39.430
season, you'll have to beat the game
00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:41.510
master at his own game.
00:23:41.520 --> 00:23:47.510
>> That's hard, bro. [music]
00:23:47.520 --> 00:23:53.830
>> Let's go.
00:23:53.840 --> 00:23:56.870
>> Guys, I'll be right there.
00:23:56.880 --> 00:23:58.149
>> Can't you count faster?
00:23:58.159 --> 00:24:00.390
>> You're one mother loving ticket short.
00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:01.590
>> One ticket.
00:24:01.600 --> 00:24:02.390
>> Hey, Tucker.
00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.470
>> Loy Butler. I think you dropped this,
00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:05.350
Tuck.
00:24:05.360 --> 00:24:07.430
>> Aha. Thank you. Thank you. And thank
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:08.789
you. [laughter]
00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:09.750
We do this.
00:24:09.760 --> 00:24:17.430
>> Yeah, we do. Go blow. [screaming]
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:20.310
>> Your childhood homes burn to the ground.
00:24:20.320 --> 00:24:26.710
GOT TO WAKE UP WITH YOUR PISS HOTLY.
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.269
>> THERE'S NO ESCAPE. [screaming]
00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:31.791
>> Down there somewhere. GOT IT.
00:24:31.801 --> 00:24:35.721
>> [groaning]
00:24:35.731 --> 00:24:36.870
[screaming]
00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:38.630
>> MY TURN.
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:40.230
Step on.
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:45.190
>> And there's your dad. Let's go.
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.549
>> This is unnecessary roughness.
00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:51.269
>> That's horror, bro. Packy Packer, the
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.029
shortlived 1980s team mascot.
00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:57.510
>> My gosh. Where's Chris?
00:24:57.520 --> 00:25:00.310
There's Chris. Beautiful man.
00:25:00.320 --> 00:25:02.470
>> Matthews. What is the clay maker doing
00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:02.950
here?
00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:04.789
>> I wanted
to battle test you to get you
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:06.710
ready for the season, but I just got off
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:08.390
the phone with the president. He asked
00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:10.789
me to pass a message along.
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>> It is time.
00:25:13.120 --> 00:25:18.710
>> Yeah,
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:20.390
>> that kind of sound like Clay Matthews
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:23.110
actual voice.
00:25:23.120 --> 00:25:25.190
>> The rest. You know what? We'll just take
00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:26.789
this image here. Can I go full screen?
00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:28.710
There we go. We got the whole schedule
00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:31.190
right here. Beautiful. Love that. Um,
00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:33.110
the rest of the voices didn't sound like
00:25:33.120 --> 00:25:35.669
it was any of the real dudes, but Oh,
00:25:35.679 --> 00:25:37.909
but you're saying, hold on. So, I got to
00:25:37.919 --> 00:25:39.269
make this small again so we can hear it.
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:41.029
You're saying uh you're saying that this
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:43.269
guy was Tom Grassi. Where'd he go?
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:45.430
Where' Tom go?
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.390
There. So, that's Tom Grassi,
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:51.510
>> guys. I'll be right there.
00:25:51.520 --> 00:25:52.789
>> Can't you count faster?
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:54.789
>> You're one mother loving ticket short.
00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:56.230
>> Oh, that's definitely him.
00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:58.230
>> Hey, Tucker. Loy Butler.
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>> That's funny.
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I don't think that was the real Leroy
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.390
Butler either.
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>> Hey, Tucker.
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:06.149
>> Loy Butler?
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>> I think you dropped this, Tuck. I
00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:09.190
>> think
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>> I don't know. I don't think so. Did you
00:26:10.320 --> 00:26:12.149
guys know I was on a podcast with Loy
00:26:12.159 --> 00:26:14.630
Butler once? That was really cool. Got
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:16.310
to play Packers trivia against Loy
00:26:16.320 --> 00:26:19.590
Butler. Joe says it was the real Leroy.
00:26:19.600 --> 00:26:22.789
Okay. But Josh Jacobs, Tucker Craft,
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.950
Jordan Love. Um,
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:28.470
and Micah Parsons, it wasn't any of
00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:30.630
those any of those guys. It would have
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:31.909
been fun to have Jordan Love on there.
00:26:31.919 --> 00:26:33.830
I'll say
00:26:33.840 --> 00:26:35.430
to says it was everyone's voice. It
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:36.470
didn't sound anything like them. What
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.070
are you talking about? Are you for real?
00:26:38.080 --> 00:26:44.390
>> Let's go.
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>> Guys, I'll be right there.
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:47.669
>> You think that's the real Tucker Craft?
00:26:47.679 --> 00:26:49.269
>> Can't you count faster? You're one
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.029
mother loving ticket short.
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>> One ticket.
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>> Hey, Tucker.
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:53.909
>> Leroy Butler.
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>> I think you dropped this. Tuck
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>> is definitely definitely the best
00:26:58.240 --> 00:26:59.750
schedule release the Packers have ever
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done. And it's not close.
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:05.350
That's excellent. I love it. So, all
00:27:05.360 --> 00:27:06.950
right. Week one at Minnesota. I like
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:08.710
this. So, three out of the last four
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:10.149
years then we'll have opened the season
00:27:10.159 --> 00:27:11.830
with an NFC North team, which I think is
00:27:11.840 --> 00:27:14.950
exactly right. And the one time in that
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:16.789
stretch, of course, that we didn't open
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:19.669
the season with [sighs]
00:27:19.679 --> 00:27:23.110
an NFC North rival was the Eagles game
00:27:23.120 --> 00:27:27.269
in Brazil, which more exciting, much
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.830
more exciting of a of a entree than an
00:27:29.840 --> 00:27:31.669
NFC North rival. But I think that's the
00:27:31.679 --> 00:27:34.149
best way to do it. And I particularly
00:27:34.159 --> 00:27:35.830
liked that we didn't have any of the
00:27:35.840 --> 00:27:38.149
baloney we had to put up with last year
00:27:38.159 --> 00:27:42.870
of like playing the same NFC North rival
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:44.950
twice in three weeks. Like that's just
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:46.549
it's so frustrating to me when they when
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:48.630
they do that. I think what you have to
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.350
do is
00:27:51.360 --> 00:27:53.830
play each of the rivals in the first
00:27:53.840 --> 00:27:55.669
like six weeks of the season and then
00:27:55.679 --> 00:27:57.190
play each of them again in the last like
00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:58.630
six weeks of the season. And it's close
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:01.750
to that. So, we have Lions in 18 and
00:28:01.760 --> 00:28:03.430
seven. That's enough of a stretch. I'm
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:05.990
good with that. Like, week seven is
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:08.630
still early in the year, and you're
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:09.830
still going to get two different
00:28:09.840 --> 00:28:12.710
versions of each other, which I like.
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.110
Chicago, we got week 16 on Christmas. We
00:28:15.120 --> 00:28:18.230
also have week five. Um, why isn't my
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:20.630
cursor in here? There we go. Week five.
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:22.870
So, you got 11 weeks in between those.
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.470
Nice long stretch. Um
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:28.950
was it
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:32.549
three years ago I think that we are
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:34.710
because it was Bears,
Eagles, Lions, and
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.830
now Vikings. So the first one, math is
00:28:37.840 --> 00:28:40.230
hard, but I think that's 2023.
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.710
2023 we start the season off with the
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.590
Bears in week one. And I remember it was
00:28:45.600 --> 00:28:47.830
such a
00:28:47.840 --> 00:28:51.190
like that summer was so heated. The two
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:52.870
fan bases were just at each other's
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:58.070
throats the whole time. And I liked it.
00:28:58.080 --> 00:29:00.070
And I think that it would be kind of
00:29:00.080 --> 00:29:02.149
good if we could add some spice back to
00:29:02.159 --> 00:29:06.389
the Vikings Packers rivalry again.
00:29:06.399 --> 00:29:08.070
And I don't think that Packer fans have
00:29:08.080 --> 00:29:10.070
stopped hating the Vikings, but I do
00:29:10.080 --> 00:29:12.070
think Vikings fans have stopped caring
00:29:12.080 --> 00:29:15.430
about the Vikings, which is a problem.
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.830
And so even if you can't get excited
00:29:17.840 --> 00:29:20.549
about your own crappy team,
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:23.990
I think that rivalry hatred can get you
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:26.630
back into things. So if Vikings fans can
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.710
really get fired up about,
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:34.310
you know, talking crap to Packer fans,
00:29:34.320 --> 00:29:36.630
uh, getting feisty for this home game
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.190
against the Packers, week one. I think
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:40.470
that could add some juice back to the
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:41.990
rivalry again. That kind of is
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.549
necessary. Um, you know, you look at how
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:45.990
feisty things have gotten the last few
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:48.549
years between Packers and and Lions. You
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.230
know, that rivalry really felt dead for
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:53.750
a long time. And then obviously
00:29:53.760 --> 00:29:56.070
Bears Packers rivalry hasn't been this
00:29:56.080 --> 00:29:59.190
hot since at least 2018. Like you
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.990
remember that that 2018
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.389
summer when they got Khalil Mack, sorry,
00:30:04.399 --> 00:30:07.669
it was 20 Yeah, it was 2018. the summer
00:30:07.679 --> 00:30:10.630
of 2018 they had Cle Mack and um you we
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:12.870
were getting Aaron back from injury from
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.510
that you know horrific
00:30:15.520 --> 00:30:19.830
unmemorable 2017 season and like things
00:30:19.840 --> 00:30:21.510
were pretty spicy between us at that
00:30:21.520 --> 00:30:23.430
point but then you know you're looking
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:27.110
at not quite a full decade but seven
00:30:27.120 --> 00:30:31.269
years of just that rivalry not being
00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:34.389
what it typically is and like right now
00:30:34.399 --> 00:30:36.230
absolutely hasn't been spicier than this
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.110
in a very very long time. You know,
00:30:39.120 --> 00:30:41.269
Bears fans are are talking their crap.
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.070
They had a really good season. We got a
00:30:44.080 --> 00:30:46.389
lot of Bears fans trasht talking in the
00:30:46.399 --> 00:30:48.789
comments on every single podcast we do,
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:49.909
even the ones where we don't talk about
00:30:49.919 --> 00:30:52.710
the Bears. Uh Tulf says, "I really like
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:54.310
the schedule. Kind of tips the cap to
00:30:54.320 --> 00:30:55.430
what the league thinks about how good
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.430
the Packers are when healthy by playing
00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.669
the Bears week five and all the easy
00:30:59.679 --> 00:31:02.070
games prior."
00:31:02.080 --> 00:31:03.430
I don't know if I'd call those first
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:06.070
four games easy. I'll tell you, here's
00:31:06.080 --> 00:31:07.510
the here's the stretch of the schedule
00:31:07.520 --> 00:31:09.029
that does give me some heartburn,
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.990
though. So, like week six versus Dallas,
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.549
that's going to be fun. Um, I think
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:16.310
we'll win that one. But then you have
00:31:16.320 --> 00:31:19.430
this stretch here, Detroit, Carolina,
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:21.430
New England, and then finishing with
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:24.389
your second Vikings game. That stretch
00:31:24.399 --> 00:31:25.990
makes me really nervous. I don't really
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:27.909
want to play Carolina. Don't really want
00:31:27.919 --> 00:31:30.470
to play New England.
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:32.630
And one of those is a Thursday night
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:36.389
game, too. Is it not? Let me go back to
00:31:36.399 --> 00:31:38.389
let me see here. Schedule Thursday. That
00:31:38.399 --> 00:31:43.029
that Panthers game is at home.
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:46.716
Uh Thursday night.
00:31:46.726 --> 00:31:47.350
[sighs]
00:31:47.360 --> 00:31:48.789
I got a bad feeling about that game
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.470
already. I really do. I don't know. I I
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:54.789
don't like this stretch. I think that
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:58.470
that Lions game,
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:00.789
Lions through Patriots, that three-game
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.269
stretch has me real nervous. And then,
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:04.870
you know, anything can happen in a
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.070
division game uh in week 10 against the
00:32:08.080 --> 00:32:09.830
Vikings.
00:32:09.840 --> 00:32:12.549
And granted, that one is at home on
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:13.909
Sunday night and we'll probably win
00:32:13.919 --> 00:32:15.590
that.
00:32:15.600 --> 00:32:16.789
But then you're heading into your mini
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.750
buy and then you got the really awesome,
00:32:19.760 --> 00:32:21.269
exciting
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:24.470
Thanksgiving
Eve Rams game
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.190
on Wednesday night that I think is going
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.310
to kick off a real hot stretch to end
00:32:30.320 --> 00:32:32.070
the season. So, going through this game
00:32:32.080 --> 00:32:33.990
by game, let's just uh let's just be
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:35.350
pessimistic here for a minute. Be
00:32:35.360 --> 00:32:37.830
pessimistic. We'll assign some losses
00:32:37.840 --> 00:32:39.830
where
00:32:39.840 --> 00:32:43.669
we probably won't lose, right? But if
00:32:43.679 --> 00:32:45.110
it's like toss-up territory, I'm just
00:32:45.120 --> 00:32:47.909
saying like let's let's assume that we
00:32:47.919 --> 00:32:50.149
get off to a slow start because no
00:32:50.159 --> 00:32:53.750
Parsons and no or limited Tucker craft.
00:32:53.760 --> 00:32:58.070
Let's just let's just play that game.
00:32:58.080 --> 00:32:59.909
So, let's say that week one at
00:32:59.919 --> 00:33:01.909
Minnesota,
00:33:01.919 --> 00:33:03.590
let's just say because it's on the road.
00:33:03.600 --> 00:33:05.029
Let's say we lose that one. Start the
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.990
season 0 and one. Uh, week two at the
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.630
Jets. I'm sorry, Jets don't scare me.
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:12.950
Atlanta. Jake and I were talking about
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.909
Atlanta after the pod on Monday. He and
00:33:15.919 --> 00:33:17.509
I kind of see Atlanta a little bit
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:20.149
differently, but I'll say Jake very,
00:33:20.159 --> 00:33:22.950
very low on Atlanta right now. um he
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:24.630
mentioned that he thinks there's a
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:26.950
really strong chance they're contending
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:29.110
for the number one overall pick in next
00:33:29.120 --> 00:33:30.950
year's draft. So, let's just say that we
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.029
win that one. All right, so we're two
00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:34.870
and one after three weeks and then we
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.830
got a road game at Tampa. We've had a
00:33:37.840 --> 00:33:42.549
hard time at Tampa this decade and I do
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.070
think they're really good and especially
00:33:44.080 --> 00:33:46.549
early on in the season while their older
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:48.630
players are still healthy, they're going
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:50.149
to be probably pretty formidable. What
00:33:50.159 --> 00:33:51.590
they've had a hard time with the last
00:33:51.600 --> 00:33:53.110
couple years is finishing seasons
00:33:53.120 --> 00:33:54.710
strong.
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:56.710
Dual says, "I was at the game. We lost
00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:58.789
to the Jets a few years ago. I'm not
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.190
worried at all though." Joe says, "Jets
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:02.870
going full tank mode." Well, when aren't
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:04.630
they going full tank mode, dude? They
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:06.389
were tanking during the first round of
00:34:06.399 --> 00:34:08.470
the draft this year. Like they they took
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:11.190
David Bailey and then punted on the rest
00:34:11.200 --> 00:34:12.550
of the first round even though they
00:34:12.560 --> 00:34:15.750
still had two more picks. So then we got
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:18.629
week five versus Chicago.
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.149
Um,
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:21.750
we're being pessimistic, right? We're
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.750
being pessimistic.
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:25.750
But even so, I can't give the Bears a
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.310
win. The Bears suck. So, we are We took
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.950
a loss at Minnesota and at Tampa, but we
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:34.790
beat the Bears in week five. So, we're
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.190
three and two. Not the start to the
00:34:37.200 --> 00:34:40.389
season anybody was hoping for, but still
00:34:40.399 --> 00:34:43.270
over 500. Then you got week six versus
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.230
Dallas. Ain't no chance Dallas wins that
00:34:46.240 --> 00:34:49.349
game. We're 4-2. Then here's that
00:34:49.359 --> 00:34:52.230
stretch I'm scared about at Detroit. All
00:34:52.240 --> 00:34:55.349
right, let's say that by week seven,
00:34:55.359 --> 00:34:57.430
that offensive line for Detroit and that
00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:59.109
defensive line have both kind of come
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:01.190
together and they're cooking with gas
00:35:01.200 --> 00:35:02.790
again. And even though they're not the
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:04.950
same kind of Lions that we've seen these
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:06.710
last few years, they still have turned
00:35:06.720 --> 00:35:10.069
into a new lethal version of the Lions.
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:12.150
We dropped that game. We're four and
00:35:12.160 --> 00:35:14.790
three. We got week eight, Thursday night
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:18.790
football at home against Carolina, but
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:20.310
it's Thursday night. Packers don't play
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:21.589
well Thursday night. Thursday night
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:25.670
games are weird. Um the the Panthers
00:35:25.680 --> 00:35:27.589
game that we played at home last year,
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:28.790
we were wearing those throwback
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:30.790
uniforms. Like everything should have
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.510
been going our way to be having a good
00:35:33.520 --> 00:35:36.310
game. Let's say we drop this one. So
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.109
that's two losses in a row and you got
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:41.430
the Saint the Patriots come up the next
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.430
week. So, we're what, four and three.
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.230
Let's say we drop another game on the
00:35:46.240 --> 00:35:48.390
road at the
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:49.910
um
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:51.510
Super Bowl runner-ups. I almost said
00:35:51.520 --> 00:35:55.109
defending Super Bowl runner-ups.
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.349
So, let's let's
say that uh see we have
00:35:57.359 --> 00:36:01.990
a one, two, three, four losses.
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.670
Let's say pessimistically we drop our
00:36:03.680 --> 00:36:07.030
fifth loss here in week nine. So, at
00:36:07.040 --> 00:36:09.829
that point, we're
00:36:09.839 --> 00:36:12.550
is it four and five? One, two, three,
00:36:12.560 --> 00:36:14.230
four. Yeah, four and five. Losing record
00:36:14.240 --> 00:36:17.750
by week nine. All right. Week 10 at home
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:19.349
against Minnesota, but we split with the
00:36:19.359 --> 00:36:21.430
Vikings this time. And by the way, that
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:26.470
game is s that's Sunday at noon. Sunday
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:29.109
at noon against the Vikings.
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:30.630
Unless the Vikings are really good, and
00:36:30.640 --> 00:36:32.470
I don't expect them to be really good, I
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:34.310
don't really think that we're going to
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:36.390
get swept by them. splitting with the
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.470
Vikings feels about right because the
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:41.589
the the that week one game I expect the
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:45.589
Vikings to probably be more like their
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:48.230
full season strength version of
00:36:48.240 --> 00:36:51.510
themselves than the Packers will be in
00:36:51.520 --> 00:36:54.390
week one. Just what I expect. So we pick
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:57.030
up a win here in week 10 at home against
00:36:57.040 --> 00:36:59.430
the Vikings. We are back to five and
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.230
five. Then we got that mini bye-week. So
00:37:02.240 --> 00:37:04.069
remember this was the pessimistic
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:05.750
version, right? pessimistic five and
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:07.750
five I got you two heading into your
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.230
buy. This is why I like the the way that
00:37:10.240 --> 00:37:12.710
this shakes out here.
00:37:12.720 --> 00:37:16.390
Week 11 is the mini buy. Then you got uh
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:18.470
that Rams game. I'm not nervous about
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:20.550
that. Like obviously we got to wait and
00:37:20.560 --> 00:37:21.990
see how both teams are looking. Maybe
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:22.870
the Packers are going to be really
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.270
banged up. Maybe the offensive line is
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:26.790
going to suck just like it has the last
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.270
couple years. Packers have played really
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:30.550
really well at Thanksgiving and
00:37:30.560 --> 00:37:33.190
Christmas. And we played really well
00:37:33.200 --> 00:37:35.910
against the Rams. Played really well in
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:37.589
prime time. I know I gave the Packers a
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.109
prime time loss here a couple weeks ago
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:41.589
against the Carolina Panthers on this
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.589
schedule. Not nervous about this one
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:44.870
though. This is the kind of game that
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:46.710
the Packers are going to show up. The
00:37:46.720 --> 00:37:48.310
Aaron Rogers Packers, Jordan Love
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.950
Packers. Same deal. This is the kind of
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:53.190
game the Packers show up for. So then
00:37:53.200 --> 00:37:57.109
you got a kind of annoying Sunday
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.630
noon game at the Saints. Um, you know,
00:38:00.640 --> 00:38:02.230
Saints are just kind of that pesky team
00:38:02.240 --> 00:38:03.430
that won't go away, but they're not
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.790
really that bad. Milto says, "I strongly
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.109
disagree. I see a 7-2 start." I
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:10.470
understand. And we can go back through
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:11.750
and I can tell you where I actually see
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:13.030
the wins and losses happening, but this
00:38:13.040 --> 00:38:15.109
is the pessimistic version, right? The
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:16.470
point of what I'm trying to do here is
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:17.750
show you why I like the end of the
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:20.069
schedule here. Because if we say that,
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.030
hey, pessimistic version, things don't
00:38:23.040 --> 00:38:24.870
start out too well. I think it I think
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:27.990
either way, you finish pretty strong. So
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:32.390
you got five losses heading into week 13
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.910
against the Saints. I don't see and you
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:37.349
know the Packers are coming off that
00:38:37.359 --> 00:38:39.030
second mini buy there. They should be
00:38:39.040 --> 00:38:41.510
really well rested over the past three
00:38:41.520 --> 00:38:43.190
weeks.
00:38:43.200 --> 00:38:45.109
I don't see the the Saints even though
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.829
they'll be pesky and annoying and maybe
00:38:47.839 --> 00:38:51.510
the first one to three quarters feels a
00:38:51.520 --> 00:38:53.670
little bit heartburny.
00:38:53.680 --> 00:38:56.550
Saints don't scare me. Then you got
00:38:56.560 --> 00:38:59.190
prime time Sunday night football on the
00:38:59.200 --> 00:39:01.109
road at the Buffalo Bills. But I'm gonna
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:03.030
give you a secret. Bills are not that
00:39:03.040 --> 00:39:05.510
good. Bills are exciting. Bills are a
00:39:05.520 --> 00:39:07.670
big name. Packers are going to get up
00:39:07.680 --> 00:39:09.430
for that game and they're a better team
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:11.750
than the Bills. Top to bottom. Bills
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:14.230
don't scare me at all. And even if they
00:39:14.240 --> 00:39:17.190
were good, fine. That's great. Packers
00:39:17.200 --> 00:39:19.190
play great against good teams. The
00:39:19.200 --> 00:39:21.270
Packers also play great against bad
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.270
teams with good reputations, which is
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.589
what the
Bills will be. So sign me up
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:26.950
for this one. Packers are absolutely
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:30.550
smashing this one. Then you got week 15
00:39:30.560 --> 00:39:33.109
versus the Miami Dolphins at home at
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:34.710
noon. If you think there's any chance
00:39:34.720 --> 00:39:36.550
Matt Laflur is going to let Jeff Hafley
00:39:36.560 --> 00:39:39.430
and Malik Willis come in and rub his
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:41.190
nose in the dirt, you got another thing
00:39:41.200 --> 00:39:43.670
coming. That's another win. We're still
00:39:43.680 --> 00:39:45.910
only at five losses, man. All right.
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:48.950
Coming from four and five and now we're
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:50.950
heading into Christmas
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.510
in Chicago.
00:39:53.520 --> 00:39:54.710
tell you man, we're sweeping the Bears
00:39:54.720 --> 00:39:57.270
this year. Bears are going to be good.
00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:58.310
They're going to be good, but their
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.790
quarterback sucks.
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.870
Their pass game is not that good.
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:07.349
And it's a holiday game. Packers are
00:40:07.359 --> 00:40:10.470
really good. Packers are good on
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:12.150
holidays.
00:40:12.160 --> 00:40:14.347
Uh right now,
00:40:14.357 --> 00:40:15.002
[sighs]
00:40:15.012 --> 00:40:16.150
[gasps]
00:40:16.160 --> 00:40:17.670
I guess you can't move that cuz it's the
00:40:17.680 --> 00:40:19.190
Christmas game on Netflix. I was
00:40:19.200 --> 00:40:20.150
thinking maybe there's a chance that
00:40:20.160 --> 00:40:22.069
that game might get flexed, but it's
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:23.430
already holiday game that that doesn't
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:25.510
apply here.
00:40:25.520 --> 00:40:27.270
They're going to win that game. And then
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.510
you got the week 17 game at home against
00:40:29.520 --> 00:40:32.630
the Texans. Texans maybe give us a fit
00:40:32.640 --> 00:40:35.270
here. Texans have a really stingy
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:37.430
defense.
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.670
I could see that game, especially like
00:40:39.680 --> 00:40:42.950
coming off the uh big Holiday High
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.310
against the Bears and then you got the
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:47.910
the Lions game that you're finishing the
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.230
schedule with. I could see that Houston
00:40:50.240 --> 00:40:52.150
game
00:40:52.160 --> 00:40:54.390
being annoying and maybe being really
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.790
dangerous. Like, I'm circling that one
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.510
in red ink, but also the Texans have had
00:40:59.520 --> 00:41:01.109
a hard time staying out of their own way
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.150
these last couple years.
00:41:04.160 --> 00:41:05.750
I think the Packers should be favored in
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:07.190
that one, but it does scare me. We'll
00:41:07.200 --> 00:41:09.670
give the
Packers another win here, but
00:41:09.680 --> 00:41:11.190
it does scare me more than the rest of
00:41:11.200 --> 00:41:13.990
that stretch does. So, then week 18
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.573
versus Detroit.
00:41:16.583 --> 00:41:18.309
>> [sighs and gasps]
00:41:18.319 --> 00:41:19.589
>> That might really depend on how the
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:21.510
Packers are looking at that point,
00:41:21.520 --> 00:41:23.589
right? How healthy are they? Because
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:25.349
we've seen them really punt on some of
00:41:25.359 --> 00:41:27.510
these division games against the Lions
00:41:27.520 --> 00:41:29.270
and the Vikings and the Bears to end the
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.990
last few seasons. So, even though I
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:33.750
believe that that the Packers are going
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:35.589
to be significantly more talented than
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:39.270
the Lions, this also feels like this
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:42.150
newer version we've seen of the Packers
00:41:42.160 --> 00:41:44.870
the last few years,
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.150
uh, starting in like 2022,
00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:50.870
right?
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.309
This is the kind of game that they lose
00:41:52.319 --> 00:41:54.230
all the time,
00:41:54.240 --> 00:41:56.390
which annoys me to no end because it
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:59.829
feels not deliberate,
00:41:59.839 --> 00:42:02.550
but it feels like um it feels like an
00:42:02.560 --> 00:42:05.670
informed loss, right? That they're like,
00:42:05.680 --> 00:42:08.710
"Well, we know what this is. We know
00:42:08.720 --> 00:42:10.790
going into it that the other team is
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:12.950
going to be trying really, really hard,
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:14.550
but here's the reasons why we don't feel
00:42:14.560 --> 00:42:16.630
like trying really hard today." And I'm
00:42:16.640 --> 00:42:18.470
sitting there like screaming at my TV
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:22.309
because I care more about beating
00:42:22.319 --> 00:42:24.390
division rivals than I do anything else.
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:26.630
That's the number one thing for me. I
00:42:26.640 --> 00:42:28.630
like beating division rivals more than I
00:42:28.640 --> 00:42:31.430
like winning, more than I like making
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:33.990
the playoffs.
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.150
Miltos says, "Agreed. Texas may Texans
00:42:36.160 --> 00:42:37.750
may catch us woozy after that bear
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.150
high." Yeah, it's that's a it's a scary
00:42:40.160 --> 00:42:43.349
game.
00:42:43.359 --> 00:42:47.270
And maybe, hear me out,
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.550
is it possible that losing that game
00:42:50.560 --> 00:42:53.670
could be good for us, that Texans game?
00:42:53.680 --> 00:42:55.510
Here's why.
00:42:55.520 --> 00:42:58.150
If you lose that game,
00:42:58.160 --> 00:43:00.710
maybe
00:43:00.720 --> 00:43:03.589
the coaches are mad about it, and it's
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:05.589
an AFC game, so it doesn't matter as
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.030
much as an NFC game, and certainly
00:43:07.040 --> 00:43:08.470
doesn't matter as much as an NFC North
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.390
game. Maybe the coaches are mad about
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:12.069
it.
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:14.710
Uh but the players also
00:43:14.720 --> 00:43:16.470
don't lose any faith in themselves
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:18.069
because they're coming off this big long
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.870
winning streak and
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:22.630
they are saying like, well, you know,
00:43:22.640 --> 00:43:25.270
we're coming off this Christmas Bears
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:26.790
high.
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:28.390
Like we just need to, you know, the
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:29.589
coaches are right. We just need to get
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.390
back to basics and take care of business
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:34.790
against the Lions.
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:36.309
Like if they lose that game against the
00:43:36.319 --> 00:43:38.950
Texans, does it make them more likely to
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:40.230
actually play a good game against the
00:43:40.240 --> 00:43:42.069
Lions?
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:43.829
I'm going to go probably no because it
00:43:43.839 --> 00:43:46.630
seems like the Packers stack wins and
00:43:46.640 --> 00:43:51.109
they stack losses, right?
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.109
They're kind of a streaky team that way.
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:54.550
I mean, even this pessimistic schedule
00:43:54.560 --> 00:43:57.270
we have them on, it's a lot of streaks,
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.750
right? Uh where's that losing streak
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:01.670
that we gave him? Yeah. week I can't
00:44:01.680 --> 00:44:03.030
remember. Did we give him a win or a
00:44:03.040 --> 00:44:04.870
loss in week seven against the Lions? Do
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:08.069
you remember? I think that was a win.
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:09.270
I think that was a win, but then we had
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.950
loss loss.
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.109
No, we had three losses. It was Lions,
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:16.630
Panthers, Patriots, and then a win
00:44:16.640 --> 00:44:17.990
against the Vikings. That's how we did
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.390
that. So, three-game losing streak
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:22.630
there. You know, if the Packers lost
00:44:22.640 --> 00:44:25.349
that Texans game,
00:44:25.359 --> 00:44:27.829
that might make them streaky in a bad
00:44:27.839 --> 00:44:29.670
way against the Lions. I don't know.
00:44:29.680 --> 00:44:31.910
What do you think?
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.069
Joe says, "Week 18 versus Detroit will
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:36.309
be Terrod Taylor's six touchdown game."
00:44:36.319 --> 00:44:39.190
Now, that we hadn't considered.
00:44:39.200 --> 00:44:41.990
That we had not considered, but I hate
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:43.109
when the Packers do that. I hate when
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:46.390
they rest starters against
division
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.950
rivals.
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:50.950
We did that against the Vikings this
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:54.550
past year and it ticked me off. And
00:44:54.560 --> 00:44:56.950
then, you know, and then the Packers
00:44:56.960 --> 00:45:00.069
just continued st stacking losses. I
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:01.030
don't know why anybody would have
00:45:01.040 --> 00:45:03.030
expected him to go and and win that
00:45:03.040 --> 00:45:05.270
Bears game after they they they just
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:06.950
laid down and died against the Vikings.
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.349
I mean, that was just embarrassing.
00:45:09.359 --> 00:45:11.670
Utterly embarrassing. And you could see
00:45:11.680 --> 00:45:15.750
it showed up. Absolutely. It showed up
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:18.150
that they're like,
00:45:18.160 --> 00:45:19.829
you know,
00:45:19.839 --> 00:45:21.349
hot start against the Bears, but we
00:45:21.359 --> 00:45:22.630
don't need to finish this game out. You
00:45:22.640 --> 00:45:24.470
know why? because we don't finish. It's
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:32.069
not what we [snorts] do.
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:34.309
So, going back to what I'm actually
00:45:34.319 --> 00:45:36.470
thinking is going to happen because that
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.309
was uh sort of the pessimistic version
00:45:38.319 --> 00:45:41.109
just to show you why I like the ending
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:42.870
of the schedule. I think going through
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:44.710
this time
00:45:44.720 --> 00:45:46.150
since we're doing like what do I
00:45:46.160 --> 00:45:47.670
genuinely think is going to happen. I
00:45:47.680 --> 00:45:49.030
think I am going to go ahead and and
00:45:49.040 --> 00:45:51.750
pencil a loss into either week 17 or
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:53.910
week 18.
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.829
Maybe both. We'll see. We'll see. Um, by
00:45:57.839 --> 00:45:59.190
the way, let's talk about the preseason.
00:45:59.200 --> 00:46:01.109
Actually, uh, we'll come back to that. I
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:03.829
I got some thoughts about the preseason.
00:46:03.839 --> 00:46:06.710
So, week one, Vikings. I think we win
00:46:06.720 --> 00:46:08.470
that one,
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:10.790
but I don't have like a high confidence
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:15.910
we win that one. That's more
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:18.309
I would give us like a three or four
00:46:18.319 --> 00:46:22.630
point advantage in week one at home
00:46:22.640 --> 00:46:24.550
versus the Vikings, but this game is in
00:46:24.560 --> 00:46:27.589
Minnesota. So, give me like uh two
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.870
points. Packers Packers minus two at the
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:35.030
Vikings. Then you got uh Jets will beat
00:46:35.040 --> 00:46:38.790
Falcons.
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:41.109
Give me ah
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.270
Thursday night
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.069
at home against the Falcons.
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:47.510
I'll tell you what, I think that
that's
00:46:47.520 --> 00:46:48.630
going to be a win, but I think it's
00:46:48.640 --> 00:46:51.589
going to be a boring game. Week four at
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:54.150
Tampa,
00:46:54.160 --> 00:46:57.910
a week ahead of our Bears game. I do
00:46:57.920 --> 00:46:59.589
think we lose that game. I think we
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.750
start the season 3 and one with a loss
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.349
to Tampa. Um, then we have the week five
00:47:05.359 --> 00:47:07.430
gold package game which ticks me off so
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:11.990
much against the Bears.
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.630
That one makes me mad at home against
00:47:14.640 --> 00:47:19.510
the Bears. I think we probably
00:47:19.520 --> 00:47:21.270
win that one though because I don't
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.990
really respect the Bears,
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.790
but I'll be annoyed if the Packers play
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:28.790
that game sloppy.
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.190
So then you got uh week six at home
00:47:31.200 --> 00:47:33.270
against the Cowboys.
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:35.589
We're smashing them. Not nervous. Week
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.069
seven at the Lions. I think we lose that
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:39.589
one. I think it's our second loss of the
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:42.390
season. Um
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:44.150
Detroit's fan base is still really
00:47:44.160 --> 00:47:46.150
juiced up and Fordfield is kind of a
00:47:46.160 --> 00:47:47.670
scary
00:47:47.680 --> 00:47:49.990
place to play. Then you got that
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:51.990
Thursday night game. It's our second
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.870
Thursday game of the season so far
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:56.870
against the Panthers. I do think that we
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:58.870
lose
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.030
that one or the Patriots game the week
00:48:01.040 --> 00:48:04.790
after. I think I'll go
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:08.150
I think I'll go with a loss here to the
00:48:08.160 --> 00:48:10.550
Panthers
00:48:10.560 --> 00:48:12.309
and then probably another loss to the to
00:48:12.319 --> 00:48:14.470
the Patriots. So give me a three-game
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:16.630
losing skid here. Lions, Panthers,
00:48:16.640 --> 00:48:18.630
Patriots.
00:48:18.640 --> 00:48:21.109
That's our fourth loss. So we're four
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:25.589
and four. Sorry, five and four. Week 10
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.230
versus the Vikings.
00:48:28.240 --> 00:48:30.950
That gave us a win in week one.
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:32.710
This is another stupid gold package
00:48:32.720 --> 00:48:35.030
game.
00:48:35.040 --> 00:48:39.670
Um, Vikings are so annoying right now.
00:48:39.680 --> 00:48:41.829
Give me a win in that one. It's a game
00:48:41.839 --> 00:48:45.910
that we should win, but also I'll be a
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:47.510
little bit surprised if the Packers
00:48:47.520 --> 00:48:49.829
don't manage to find some way to split
00:48:49.839 --> 00:48:52.390
with the Vikings.
Like I I think I think
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.230
we'll win both of them. Just looking at
00:48:54.240 --> 00:48:56.470
either one of them individually.
00:48:56.480 --> 00:48:57.990
Like yes, we're going to win this one.
00:48:58.000 --> 00:48:59.109
Yes, we're going to win this one. But
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:01.270
collectively, do I think we go 2 and 0?
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:03.750
I don't really. But I can't pick which
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:06.309
one of those games makes me more nervous
00:49:06.319 --> 00:49:09.829
at home gold package or week one. I
00:49:09.839 --> 00:49:11.190
think the gold package game makes me
00:49:11.200 --> 00:49:13.430
more nervous. I think it does. Man, that
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:15.030
would really be annoying. But I also
00:49:15.040 --> 00:49:16.069
don't think we're going to go on a
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:17.750
four-ame losing streak there unless
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:20.230
we're really dealing with injuries.
00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:21.910
So,
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:25.430
I'm putting it down as a win there,
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:27.349
you know, but maybe uh maybe something
00:49:27.359 --> 00:49:29.109
flips somewhere in that four game
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:31.829
stretch right there. So, then the rest
00:49:31.839 --> 00:49:34.150
of the season, I don't think we have
00:49:34.160 --> 00:49:37.510
another loss until week 17 or 18. So,
00:49:37.520 --> 00:49:42.150
we'd be going in at that point.
00:49:42.160 --> 00:49:43.990
Uh [sighs]
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.190
what's that? 12 and four. 12 and four
00:49:47.200 --> 00:49:50.630
with a chance to finish
00:49:50.640 --> 00:49:54.309
14 and four, right? Is that how math is
00:49:54.319 --> 00:49:56.390
that how math works? No, it would be 11
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:59.990
and four with a chance to finish
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.510
13 and four. That's how math works. So,
00:50:03.520 --> 00:50:08.309
I think that we probably
00:50:08.319 --> 00:50:11.190
drop one to the Texans and then beat the
00:50:11.200 --> 00:50:13.349
Lions.
00:50:13.359 --> 00:50:14.630
You see, the problem with this though is
00:50:14.640 --> 00:50:16.069
that I'm giving us six wins against the
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:19.109
division, [laughter] which
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:23.190
feels unlikely. But
00:50:23.200 --> 00:50:26.069
I I like it though. Or did I have us
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:28.630
losing to the Lions? I had us losing to
00:50:28.640 --> 00:50:29.829
Lions. That'd be five and one against
00:50:29.839 --> 00:50:31.030
the division. That's what I think is
00:50:31.040 --> 00:50:33.190
going to happen. Yeah. Let's talk about
00:50:33.200 --> 00:50:36.309
the preseason. Go. Preseason I think is
00:50:36.319 --> 00:50:37.990
so dumb right now [clears throat]
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:40.390
because our first preseason game is the
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.589
Steelers.
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:45.750
And I think the NFL should have switched
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:47.670
it to be in Green Bay, not in
00:50:47.680 --> 00:50:49.829
Pittsburgh. I'm mad about this. Bring
00:50:49.839 --> 00:50:51.510
Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rogers back to
00:50:51.520 --> 00:50:52.950
Green Bay for the preseason game. What
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.109
are we doing? Why are we sending the
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:57.589
Packers to Pittsburgh?
00:50:57.599 --> 00:50:59.430
Why?
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.630
It makes so much more. And who cares?
00:51:02.640 --> 00:51:05.430
Like, oh, you know, the Steelers need
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.910
another home game or whatever. Get out
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:11.109
of here. Roger Goodell, make the call.
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:12.870
Ed policy, I know you listen to this
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:16.870
podcast. Make the call. Make it switch.
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.349
I want Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rogers
00:51:19.359 --> 00:51:21.109
coming back to Green Bay for preseason
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:24.470
gameweek one. How fun would that be?
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.829
This is so unnecessarily stupid to rob
00:51:27.839 --> 00:51:30.150
us of that and send the Packers to
00:51:30.160 --> 00:51:34.150
Pittsburgh.
00:51:34.160 --> 00:51:36.470
What? The Steelers fans are going to go
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:40.470
pack the stadium for a preseason game to
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:42.390
see Jordan Love and the Packers get out
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.109
of town. Packer fans, number one,
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:46.069
they're going to they're going to sell
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.710
out that game anyways.
00:51:48.720 --> 00:51:51.270
That would be so freaking good for Green
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:56.630
Bay's economy, for everybody's memories.
00:51:56.640 --> 00:51:59.030
You could do some cool stuff with that.
00:51:59.040 --> 00:52:01.109
Do some stuff where you're honoring Mike
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.750
and Aaron. like you don't play them in
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.510
the regular season.
00:52:07.520 --> 00:52:09.990
Who cares? Dulf said we just need to
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:11.829
Dark Knight Rises Hinesfield and it will
00:52:11.839 --> 00:52:14.069
be unplayable. Honestly, I don't think
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:15.510
that's an overreaction. We should just
00:52:15.520 --> 00:52:17.750
do that, you know? I mean, in Dark
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:19.190
Knight Rises like nobody got hurt,
00:52:19.200 --> 00:52:21.829
right?
00:52:21.839 --> 00:52:23.510
Players are all uh getting away from the
00:52:23.520 --> 00:52:27.301
sinkhole. Nobody got hurt. [laughter]
00:52:27.311 --> 00:52:31.990
[sighs] Uh, Acersure Field
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:33.990
or Acers Stadium. What's the field
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:35.510
called? It's not Hinesfield anymore, is
00:52:35.520 --> 00:52:39.750
it? Is it Hinesfield at Acer Stadium?
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:41.349
Dumb.
00:52:41.359 --> 00:52:43.990
So, yeah, that that makes me mad. Well,
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:47.190
listen, here's the problem.
Um,
00:52:47.200 --> 00:52:49.030
I don't want to do the Jonathan Ganon
00:52:49.040 --> 00:52:51.430
defense conversation without Jake. I
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:55.030
really don't. So,
00:52:55.040 --> 00:52:57.510
I think um I think what we're going to
00:52:57.520 --> 00:53:00.069
do is if you guys have some fun
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.309
questions, I'll get to some fun
00:53:02.319 --> 00:53:03.430
questions. We can just talk about some
00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:06.470
baloney and then um you know, we'll shut
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:08.069
her down. We'll save the Genanet
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:09.829
conversation for Monday. So,
00:53:09.839 --> 00:53:13.829
announcement time. the
00:53:13.839 --> 00:53:17.270
the the the schedule going forward is
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:19.990
going to be Mondays
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:22.549
for the next like two monthsish. So,
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:23.750
we're going to go once a week. It'll be
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:26.069
Mondays. Uh we're taking Fridays off. We
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:26.870
talked about that a little bit on
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:28.390
Monday, but we also promised we'd let
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:30.069
you know what day of the week the stream
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:31.030
is going to be on. It's going to be
00:53:31.040 --> 00:53:35.510
Mondays. So, we'll do that. Um do check
00:53:35.520 --> 00:53:38.390
out packerpro.com, please. Uh, great
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:40.630
place to get your Packers news and a
00:53:40.640 --> 00:53:42.710
bunch of content from us. Really
00:53:42.720 --> 00:53:45.670
appreciate you supporting that. And, uh,
00:53:45.680 --> 00:53:48.710
tell a friend about the podcast. Also,
00:53:48.720 --> 00:53:50.390
also, you know what? You could really
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:52.630
use some reviews on the podcast
00:53:52.640 --> 00:53:55.510
platforms. Apple, Spotify. Been a long
00:53:55.520 --> 00:53:56.549
time since we've gotten any reviews,
00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:57.829
positive or negative. I'd take a
00:53:57.839 --> 00:54:00.309
negative review. That's fine.
00:54:00.319 --> 00:54:01.670
In fact, if you're watching on YouTube
00:54:01.680 --> 00:54:04.309
and you dislike this video
00:54:04.319 --> 00:54:05.589
or if you like it, here's what you
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should do. Here's how you can send me
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feedback. If you like the video, press
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So, do that and please leave us a
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a review on Apple, on Spotify, wherever
00:54:21.680 --> 00:54:24.230
you listen to us. Reviews and ratings
00:54:24.240 --> 00:54:25.349
help. And it's been a while since
00:54:25.359 --> 00:54:27.670
anybody's left us any feedback on there.
00:54:27.680 --> 00:54:29.030
Milto says, "Come on, y'all. Hit the
00:54:29.040 --> 00:54:31.589
like." Please hit the like and uh and
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:35.750
and get on your granny's computer and
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.950
have her subscribe to our channel. We
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:39.990
appreciate it. We're trying to get to
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:41.109
1,000 subscribers and we're getting
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:43.030
pretty close.
00:54:43.040 --> 00:54:44.710
All right. Iowa Joe said, "Except the
00:54:44.720 --> 00:54:46.230
mayor and his entourage in the club
00:54:46.240 --> 00:54:48.790
seats who got blown up."
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:52.150
Well, who cares about the mayor
00:54:52.160 --> 00:54:56.710
as uh what's his name in the Muppets?
00:54:56.720 --> 00:54:58.230
The guy who throws the boomerang fish.
00:54:58.240 --> 00:55:00.710
What what is his name? Uh Zealand, I
00:55:00.720 --> 00:55:03.349
think his name is. As he said in the
00:55:03.359 --> 00:55:06.230
Muppet movie that had Jack Black in it.
00:55:06.240 --> 00:55:08.710
Uh Mr. the Frog, we agreed that a
00:55:08.720 --> 00:55:12.470
celebrity is not a people.
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.470
To say it has a Hines Gate with a
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:15.829
massive ketchup bottle. I was there like
00:55:15.839 --> 00:55:19.109
a week ago. I am really annoyed that I I
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:21.030
didn't make it to the NFL draft in
00:55:21.040 --> 00:55:24.470
Pittsburgh. I wish I had skipped Detroit
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:26.710
and then done Green Bay and Pittsburgh
00:55:26.720 --> 00:55:29.190
instead of Detroit and Green Bay. That
00:55:29.200 --> 00:55:31.670
would have been been better.
00:55:31.680 --> 00:55:33.750
Have you seen the Min Tarth Lego set
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:35.109
coming out? It's incredible. I haven't.
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:37.430
Let's check this out. I love Lord of the
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:41.190
Rings. Uh I searched Minis and the first
00:55:41.200 --> 00:55:45.829
thing that came up was Ministth.
00:55:45.839 --> 00:55:48.470
So
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:52.789
here's what we need.
00:55:52.799 --> 00:55:56.230
All right. Minister Lego set.
00:55:56.240 --> 00:55:58.069
Oh, and it's not too big either. How
00:55:58.079 --> 00:55:59.910
much is this? I do wonder how much this
00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:02.230
is because
00:56:02.240 --> 00:56:06.309
Oh, good grief. Wait. Oh,
00:56:06.319 --> 00:56:11.190
what do I do? I just want to see. $650.
00:56:11.200 --> 00:56:14.069
It's not even that big.
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.230
I mean, you can see it's like this would
00:56:16.240 --> 00:56:19.430
probably take me
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:22.470
two days to put this together.
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:25.190
You can see it's not that big. 650 bucks
00:56:25.200 --> 00:56:27.670
for this. I didn't realize they had so
00:56:27.680 --> 00:56:30.549
much cool Lord of the Rings Lego stuff.
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:34.470
Hobbiton movie set. That's pretty cool.
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.750
I
I love Lord of the Rings.
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:41.270
Have you guys seen He says 8,000 8,000
00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:43.990
pieces. Where do you see that? Oh, yeah.
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:46.470
8278.
00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:48.549
That's incredible. It doesn't look like
00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:50.549
it's that big.
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.150
Wow, that's really detailed. Oh, they
00:56:52.160 --> 00:57:01.270
got a video. Let's check out the video.
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:03.910
H. This looks like a lot of fun. My wife
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:06.710
and I do Lego sets sometimes. It's uh We
00:57:06.720 --> 00:57:08.309
have two toddlers. Oh, look at the
00:57:08.319 --> 00:57:10.230
inside.
00:57:10.240 --> 00:57:13.270
We have two toddlers and it is uh very
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.430
difficult for us to get time alone
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:17.030
together.
00:57:17.040 --> 00:57:18.710
So, one thing we really really like to
00:57:18.720 --> 00:57:20.630
do in the evenings is we'll build Lego
00:57:20.640 --> 00:57:22.710
sets together because then we can talk
00:57:22.720 --> 00:57:24.950
instead of just watching a movie or
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:26.630
something.
00:57:26.640 --> 00:57:29.349
But for $650,
00:57:29.359 --> 00:57:31.589
I can't do that.
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:34.309
However,
00:57:34.319 --> 00:57:35.589
I really want it. I'm going to put this
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:38.870
on my Christmas list. Will you guys
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.390
you could donate a dime a piece and I
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:45.670
would only need
00:57:45.680 --> 00:57:48.710
6,000 of you
00:57:48.720 --> 00:57:52.789
to donate a dime a piece. H that's cool.
00:57:52.799 --> 00:57:54.630
It says I'm buying it right away because
00:57:54.640 --> 00:57:58.950
the gift with purchase is grand.
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:03.910
I give you a tree fitty for it.
00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:06.390
Grand.
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:08.230
So they have a Grand. So Grond is like
00:58:08.240 --> 00:58:10.870
the battery grand, but they have a Grand
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:17.750
Lego set.
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:19.190
You're saying it comes with it if you
00:58:19.200 --> 00:58:22.950
pre-order or something? Oh,
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:25.510
yeah. We want to do Hogwarts next.
00:58:25.520 --> 00:58:27.190
That's only 170 bucks. Maybe we'll do
00:58:27.200 --> 00:58:30.309
that. That'd be fun.
00:58:30.319 --> 00:58:32.710
H. It doesn't look anything like
00:58:32.720 --> 00:58:35.829
Hogwarts though.
00:58:35.839 --> 00:58:37.910
Like I played Hogwarts Legacy of the
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.549
game which was excellent.
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:43.349
And so I am even if I even if I were not
00:58:43.359 --> 00:58:44.950
already familiar with it from the
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:47.589
movies,
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:49.510
I am pretty darn intimately familiar
00:58:49.520 --> 00:58:52.630
with the build of Hogwarts. This does
00:58:52.640 --> 00:58:55.750
not look much like Hogwarts. You got the
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:57.990
Grand Hall and all that, but it's not
00:58:58.000 --> 00:58:59.670
very detailed. I can see why it's only
00:58:59.680 --> 00:59:02.950
170 bucks.
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:04.789
tool says, "I'm moving soon and I'm
00:59:04.799 --> 00:59:06.870
terrified to move my Lego collection."
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:09.750
Well, super glue it together as uh you
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:14.069
know, use the use the crackle.
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:16.710
Let's see.
00:59:16.720 --> 00:59:20.870
650. I'm getting a day OBE. That's OP.
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:24.309
OP packers, by the way, Joe. Oh, Joe
00:59:24.319 --> 00:59:27.190
said Lord of the Rings sucks. You suck.
00:59:27.200 --> 00:59:30.950
No. Did you pump your um podcast
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:35.270
episode? I'm scrolling back in the
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:39.829
chats. Uh oh, we have a super chat
00:59:39.839 --> 00:59:42.309
from United Bates. [snorts] Come on. Why
00:59:42.319 --> 00:59:43.510
can't I pin this on the screen? This is
00:59:43.520 --> 00:59:46.390
so annoying. There we go. Nope. Pin it.
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:48.069
There we go. From United States Bates.
00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:51.670
$5. He says, "Lego,
00:59:51.680 --> 00:59:53.589
appreciate you, Bates. Appreciate you
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:56.230
very much. you have any uh any topics
00:59:56.240 --> 00:59:58.069
that you want us to talk about for five
00:59:58.079 --> 00:59:59.910
bucks? We can keep talking about Legos
00:59:59.920 --> 01:00:01.910
for sure.
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:04.870
Joe, recommend
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:06.470
one of your best, you know, if I were
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:09.589
recommending one of my best episodes
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:12.789
ever of Packers Derailed. It probably
01:00:12.799 --> 01:00:16.630
would be the witches edition. Do you
01:00:16.640 --> 01:00:19.589
guys remember the witches episode?
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:22.470
This was back when
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.270
we had first learned about Aaron Rogers
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:27.829
new girlfriend. I think I think this was
01:00:27.839 --> 01:00:31.349
the timing. Um, but I think too old for
01:00:31.359 --> 01:00:35.750
this was the one who had told us that
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:37.510
he strongly suspected that all the
01:00:37.520 --> 01:00:39.829
injuries on the Packers were the result
01:00:39.839 --> 01:00:45.030
of a curse. Bill Bellawitch. [laughter]
01:00:45.040 --> 01:00:47.030
Yeah, I think that would probably be one
01:00:47.040 --> 01:00:50.069
of the best uh derailed episodes of all
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:52.230
time. Uh what's another one? I'm trying
01:00:52.240 --> 01:00:53.270
to think of some of the other.
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:56.309
Obviously, the G Godzilla episode is an
01:00:56.319 --> 01:00:59.109
alltimer.
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:01.510
Let's see here.
01:01:01.520 --> 01:01:04.630
Um
01:01:04.640 --> 01:01:08.230
where's this one here? Viewful podcast.
01:01:08.240 --> 01:01:10.390
Here we go.
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:12.549
So, let's see. Oh, man. You guys
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:14.470
remember this one? Cat litter, draft
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:17.510
memories, yank off, and escape chickens.
01:01:17.520 --> 01:01:19.750
That was amazing. You guys, if you
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.230
weren't around here back then, I had
01:01:22.240 --> 01:01:25.750
chickens escape in my office.
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:28.390
That was an Alzheimer.
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:29.990
Uh there's the one where we pretended to
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:31.430
hack Aaron Negler. Yeah, right there. I
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:32.630
knew it was right about the exact same
01:01:32.640 --> 01:01:36.950
time. Um and
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:38.710
we had the one where Ryan programmed a
01:01:38.720 --> 01:01:41.750
Packer a Packers video game on the
01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:43.510
stream. I mean, obviously used AI, but
01:01:43.520 --> 01:01:46.150
that was fun. We were uh because we were
01:01:46.160 --> 01:01:47.750
It was like the wagering game, so we
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:50.470
would place bets on which Packers player
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.069
was going to win a foot race or
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:54.230
something. That was fun. And then Ryan
01:01:54.240 --> 01:01:55.750
got so annoyed with Jake and I for
01:01:55.760 --> 01:01:57.812
chugging olive oil on the stream.
01:01:57.822 --> 01:01:58.390
[laughter]
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:01.270
I can't believe Jake did that. Cocaine
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:02.950
Bear tackles Philly cheese steaks. That
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:04.950
was um that was an oldtimer as well. And
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:07.910
then I really liked woots and you guys
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:10.150
did not like wes. I was trying to make
01:02:10.160 --> 01:02:11.670
wootes a thing. That was the worst of
01:02:11.680 --> 01:02:15.270
all time. And uh I know like Tim Bole
01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:18.309
was a nomination for me for W quote. The
01:02:18.319 --> 01:02:20.230
problem with that episode is that it
01:02:20.240 --> 01:02:22.870
predated Luke Musgrave.
01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:25.270
And now that Luke Musgrave exists and
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:28.150
he's a Packer, he just he would sweep
01:02:28.160 --> 01:02:29.510
that award every single time. He would
01:02:29.520 --> 01:02:31.430
be the w
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:33.030
he would be the w of the week every
01:02:33.040 --> 01:02:35.030
week.
01:02:35.040 --> 01:02:37.829
So that was a great one. Um, there's
01:02:37.839 --> 01:02:39.349
been some really good ones the last
01:02:39.359 --> 01:02:41.750
couple years, too. Oh, this is this is
01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:43.109
probably the most fun I ever had. The
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:44.789
most hated football teams. This is Jake
01:02:44.799 --> 01:02:49.750
and I did our our hate watch list,
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:51.430
ranking our our least favorite teams.
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:53.030
And then we disagreed
pretty
01:02:53.040 --> 01:02:56.069
significantly on a couple teams because
01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:59.670
he hates Notre Dame and I'm
01:02:59.680 --> 01:03:02.710
uh friendly. I'm like neutral friendly
01:03:02.720 --> 01:03:06.150
to Notre Dame. And then I think Jake
01:03:06.160 --> 01:03:08.549
couldn't get there with me on the uh
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:11.030
hatred of the 49ers, which I don't
01:03:11.040 --> 01:03:12.630
understand. Like how can you be a Packer
01:03:12.640 --> 01:03:14.150
fan
01:03:14.160 --> 01:03:17.029
and not hate the 49ers?
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:19.990
So, you know, now where's today's
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:22.549
episode going to go down in history? You
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:24.470
know, probably not that high, right?
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:26.549
It's just me. No, Jake. Jake's the magic
01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:28.309
of the show.
01:03:28.319 --> 01:03:30.470
Duel says, "I remember those chickens."
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.150
Joe says, "Mike and I have a lot of good
01:03:32.160 --> 01:03:34.230
meltdowns, so it's hard to pick." Well,
01:03:34.240 --> 01:03:36.309
I don't want to
01:03:36.319 --> 01:03:37.829
I don't want to just try and guess. I
01:03:37.839 --> 01:03:39.589
want you to tell me one of your
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:41.670
favorites. Obviously, Ed Policy, the
01:03:41.680 --> 01:03:43.510
first Ed Policy Day was one of the best.
01:03:43.520 --> 01:03:45.029
I thought about trying to get the actual
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:47.589
Ed Policy to come on the pod this year
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:49.589
for us for Ed Policy Day, but I think
01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:53.270
I'm going to wait one more year because
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:56.309
I want our channel to be bigger. I don't
01:03:56.319 --> 01:03:59.670
know if he's going to say yes. So,
01:03:59.680 --> 01:04:01.670
uh, I need you guys to help me grow the
01:04:01.680 --> 01:04:04.470
channel. Like a year from now, if we had
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:06.230
like
01:04:06.240 --> 01:04:09.029
5,000 subs on YouTube, like we we just
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:10.950
started hammering YouTube really
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:12.789
strongly just at the beginning of this
01:04:12.799 --> 01:04:14.390
year
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.109
and it's just absolutely been exploding.
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:18.630
So, if you guys could help us grow the
01:04:18.640 --> 01:04:21.190
YouTube channel, that would go a long
01:04:21.200 --> 01:04:23.670
way, I think. Um because I've reached
01:04:23.680 --> 01:04:24.950
out to the backers before about trying
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:27.990
to get uh folks on the podcast. Mark
01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:29.510
Murphy agreed to come on the podcast and
01:04:29.520 --> 01:04:30.870
then just the scheduling thing didn't
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:32.069
come out, didn't work out. It was
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:35.990
actually his idea. Um he he and I were
01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:38.470
talking. I know it sounds really made
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:41.829
up. I I sent him here's what happened. I
01:04:41.839 --> 01:04:44.549
was asking him because Adam Shfter was
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:47.190
reporting that the Packers were
01:04:47.200 --> 01:04:49.510
interested in
01:04:49.520 --> 01:04:52.549
Antonio Brown and that they had tried to
01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:54.230
sign him. So I reached out to Mark
01:04:54.240 --> 01:04:56.230
Murphy
01:04:56.240 --> 01:04:58.870
and I was like, man, I don't because you
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:00.710
might remember at the time that that
01:05:00.720 --> 01:05:02.470
happened,
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:05.430
Antonio Brown,
01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:06.950
this is like the probably the worst
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:10.549
moment of all time for his like PR.
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:13.270
There was like a lot of really gross
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:15.589
charges being floated at around you
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.390
about him at that time. Like this was
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:22.230
after he had threatened that lady and
01:05:22.240 --> 01:05:24.870
her kids over text. Do you guys remember
01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:30.230
that he had a group text chat with this
01:05:30.240 --> 01:05:33.910
single mom and her and and and
01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:35.670
some lawyers.
01:05:35.680 --> 01:05:37.029
I don't know what the heck he's like. He
01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:38.870
doesn't think. He's just his brain is
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:42.549
not there. So, I was like kind of
01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:44.230
bothered at the thought that the Packers
01:05:44.240 --> 01:05:45.910
were in on Antonio Brown. Like, I'm
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:49.029
like, I don't even care how good he is.
01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:51.029
Why are the Packers of all teams
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:52.390
interested in this? So, I I reached out
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:55.190
to Mark and asked him about it. And he
01:05:55.200 --> 01:05:58.870
said that it was fake news and he
01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:01.270
offered to come on the podcast and I was
01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:04.630
super excited. And uh then he said uh
01:06:04.640 --> 01:06:07.190
you know get in touch with um my
01:06:07.200 --> 01:06:09.670
scheduling secretary and I did and
01:06:09.680 --> 01:06:11.029
scheduling secretary didn't want me
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:12.789
didn't want him to come on my pod so
01:06:12.799 --> 01:06:14.950
that was a bummer but Mark had offered
01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:17.589
so we almost had that u but then I
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:19.829
talked to that same scheduling secretary
01:06:19.839 --> 01:06:24.069
a couple years later and uh asked if Ed
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:25.829
policy could come on the pod and at that
01:06:25.839 --> 01:06:28.789
point we were still on the old network
01:06:28.799 --> 01:06:32.069
and so the pod was you know decently pig
01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:35.430
and he said yes, but he gave a date that
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:37.510
he wanted to wait because Ed's schedule
01:06:37.520 -->
01:06:39.190
was so booked. It was a year out, but he
01:06:39.200 --> 01:06:41.670
said, "Yeah, a year from now, you uh
01:06:41.680 --> 01:06:43.510
we'll we'll have him come on." But in
01:06:43.520 --> 01:06:46.069
between then, we left that network and
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:47.990
had to start over. And so, our numbers
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:50.470
were have been so small for so long that
01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:53.349
I haven't wanted to reach out and try
01:06:53.359 --> 01:06:55.109
and get him scheduled on here because I
01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:59.270
just I don't want them to say no. If I'm
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:02.150
being honest, I want to get bigger and
01:07:02.160 --> 01:07:03.750
make it a compelling case. Stephan, come
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:06.390
on. Joe said, "We've had Graassi, Wes,
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:09.589
Hogquist, Demoski, and Herman on you.
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:11.190
All you can do is send an email or a
01:07:11.200 --> 01:07:14.630
message. Worst they can say is no." I
01:07:14.640 --> 01:07:19.430
have to have to clean up Joe's language.
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:21.750
To say, "Have Ganon or Steno on the
01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:25.029
pod?" I don't want Steno on the pod.
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:26.549
I tell I'd rather have Steno than Luke
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:28.309
Getsy. I don't think I could be nice to
01:07:28.319 --> 01:07:31.029
Luke Etsy. That's he's probably the only
01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:33.270
person associated with the Packers. I
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:35.829
could be nice to Luke Musgrave. I could
01:07:35.839 --> 01:07:40.470
be nice to Keshan Nixon.
01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:42.309
I'm not mad at Matt Orzick anymore.
01:07:42.319 --> 01:07:44.390
Trying to think who
01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:46.230
is there anybody else besides Getsy I
01:07:46.240 --> 01:07:47.349
would not be able to have a civil
01:07:47.359 --> 01:07:49.990
conversation with. I really really
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:51.910
dislike Gatsy
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:53.510
in person. I could have a civil
01:07:53.520 --> 01:07:55.349
conversation with him in person, but I
01:07:55.359 --> 01:07:58.870
don't know if I could do a full podcast
01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:01.750
with him where we're actually talking
01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:05.829
about Packers related stuff that matters
01:08:05.839 --> 01:08:07.750
and
01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:09.430
getting answers from him on stuff like I
01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:10.549
don't I just don't think I could do
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:12.950
that. I don't think I'm a good enough
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.910
man to do that. I'd be too annoyed with
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:19.669
um the ways that he's uh
01:08:19.679 --> 01:08:22.709
failed in his duties. But anybody else?
01:08:22.719 --> 01:08:25.829
Yeah, Luke Musgrave. I could Buck. Luke
01:08:25.839 --> 01:08:28.470
Buckus. Yeah, dude. I I don't think that
01:08:28.480 --> 01:08:31.349
Luke Buckus has done a great job. He
01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:33.189
seems
like a really good dude, though.
01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:36.950
And I He obviously knows more football,
01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:38.789
has forgotten more football than I will
01:08:38.799 --> 01:08:41.030
ever know.
01:08:41.040 --> 01:08:44.070
I No question about it. Luke Buckiss, I
01:08:44.080 --> 01:08:46.870
I could certainly defer to him and his
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:49.189
his knowledge.
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:51.990
Luke Getsy, I'm not so sure.
01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:55.669
Okay. Um,
01:08:55.679 --> 01:08:58.070
I think
01:08:58.080 --> 01:09:01.189
this is probably
01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:02.550
says, "If Ed Policy comes on for Ed
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:04.390
Policy Day, I will record an ED policy
01:09:04.400 --> 01:09:07.510
parody of Holiday by Green Day and make
01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:09.430
him listen to it." Well, here's the
01:09:09.440 --> 01:09:10.870
thing. I was thinking about this earlier
01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:11.829
today. I was actually thinking about
01:09:11.839 --> 01:09:14.149
this earlier today is that if we did
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:18.390
have him come on for ED policy day,
01:09:18.400 --> 01:09:20.630
I don't know if we could do it live,
01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:22.390
right?
01:09:22.400 --> 01:09:24.470
Cuz like first of all, is he going to be
01:09:24.480 --> 01:09:30.630
available for like a 7:15 evening thing?
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:32.229
I think we'd have to just do it when
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:34.709
he's available. That's the thing. Like
01:09:34.719 --> 01:09:36.870
we podcast way after hours. Ed should be
01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:38.709
home with his family.
01:09:38.719 --> 01:09:40.470
shouldn't be hanging out in his office
01:09:40.480 --> 01:09:44.070
waiting to do a podcast with us.
01:09:44.080 --> 01:09:45.990
But you're right, Joe. I should I should
01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.030
uh I should reach out. It would be
01:09:49.040 --> 01:09:50.390
really fun to have him on for Ed Policy
01:09:50.400 --> 01:09:52.630
Day. What other podcasts out there
01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:55.510
celebrate Ed Policy Day? We do. I
01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:58.310
should. Uh let's see. Joe says, "If you
01:09:58.320 --> 01:10:00.070
don't want to listen to Packers content,
01:10:00.080 --> 01:10:02.550
I do the OPE unscripted episode." And
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:05.750
that one is our Star Wars one from last
01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:08.709
year.
01:10:08.719 --> 01:10:10.229
OP
01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:11.830
unscripted
01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:15.430
Star Wars.
01:10:15.440 --> 01:10:19.430
No, this is just Star Wars. I need
01:10:19.440 --> 01:10:23.270
OP Packers Unscripted Star Wars. Packers
01:10:23.280 --> 01:10:25.910
unscripted is its own thing. OPE
01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:27.590
unscripted episode one. Is this what
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:30.390
you're saying? I do the OPE unscripted
01:10:30.400 --> 01:10:33.910
episodes.
01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:36.149
Joe,
01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:37.510
I need a little more to go off of
here.
01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:39.669
I'm looking for this
01:10:39.679 --> 01:10:42.070
over this said Star Wars. I like Picard.
01:10:42.080 --> 01:10:43.830
Oh, I put the link above that message.
01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:46.870
Oh, link.
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:49.430
Uh, I'm not seeing a link. I'm wondering
01:10:49.440 --> 01:10:51.350
if it got blocked.
01:10:51.360 --> 01:10:53.030
Go one message higher. Okay, one message
01:10:53.040 --> 01:10:55.270
high. The last thing above there,
01:10:55.280 --> 01:10:58.229
there's no links. There's
01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:00.070
I know what I need to do. I need to go
01:11:00.080 --> 01:11:04.149
to the stream.
01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:05.590
And I can see
01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:07.590
>> I know what I need to do. I need to go
01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.590
to the
01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:11.750
Shut up JJ.
01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:15.030
Okay. Uh, if you don't want to do this
01:11:15.040 --> 01:11:17.910
in package content, dude, I don't see
01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:19.990
it.
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:22.550
United Bates super chat.
01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:25.030
Where's the link? DM the link to me
01:11:25.040 --> 01:11:28.330
because I can I can open up my my DM. Do
01:11:28.340 --> 01:11:35.350
[snorts] that for me.
01:11:35.360 --> 01:11:38.070
I do want to see this. OP Packers
01:11:38.080 --> 01:11:39.750
Unscripted.
01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:43.669
Packers unscripted.
01:11:43.679 --> 01:11:45.430
I do want to see this. This would have
01:11:45.440 --> 01:11:48.310
to be it.
01:11:48.320 --> 01:11:51.189
>> Okay. Packers Unscripted.
01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:53.430
Here we go. I got a message from Joe.
01:11:53.440 --> 01:11:55.270
Oh, well, come on. Why in the world can
01:11:55.280 --> 01:11:58.310
I not click your link?
01:11:58.320 --> 01:12:00.310
Message was unrecognized and could not
01:12:00.320 --> 01:12:02.550
be displayed.
01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:05.030
Click to report
01:12:05.040 --> 01:12:06.709
message. I'm not going to do that. I
01:12:06.719 --> 01:12:11.750
don't want to report the message.
01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:15.484
>> Do you see it?
01:12:15.494 --> 01:12:16.390
[music]
01:12:16.400 --> 01:12:19.030
>> All right. Packers off season off topic
01:12:19.040 --> 01:12:21.110
Star Wars a new op. Oh, that's a good
01:12:21.120 --> 01:12:22.870
name. I like that. Okay. Here's what I'm
01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:24.470
going to do. I'm going to put the link
01:12:24.480 --> 01:12:28.149
to this in the description of this live
01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:30.550
stream. If you guys want to go check
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:32.470
that out, you can do that and I will
01:12:32.480 --> 01:12:34.310
listen to it as well. Thanks, Joe. I
01:12:34.320 --> 01:12:36.790
appreciate you for sending that to me.
01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:40.229
Where I just need to edit this,
01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:42.709
put the link in there,
01:12:42.719 --> 01:12:45.270
and then we can we'll probably get out
01:12:45.280 --> 01:12:48.229
of here. Um, so, uh, yeah, bummer that
01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:50.149
we couldn't do the Jonathan Ganon thing.
01:12:50.159 --> 01:12:53.510
Um, you know, sometimes it just doesn't
01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:55.590
work out. But it's the offseason. It's
01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:58.390
only the uh
01:12:58.400 --> 01:13:00.229
it's only the die hard of you guys who
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:03.270
even show up for a a stinking May
01:13:03.280 --> 01:13:05.510
episode. I mean, the numbers are
01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:07.750
hilarious. Like you watch like during
01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:09.110
the season and then leading up to the
01:13:09.120 --> 01:13:10.630
draft. Like the numbers are so nice. And
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:12.630
then once the draft is over, boom,
01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:16.310
that's just the end of the podcast.
01:13:16.320 --> 01:13:18.630
um [clears throat] viewership. You know,
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:21.110
we'll we'll go from like we might have
01:13:21.120 --> 01:13:23.750
anywhere from 50 to 150 people watching
01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:27.110
live for for an episode that's either
01:13:27.120 --> 01:13:29.430
during the season or during draft season
01:13:29.440 --> 01:13:32.870
and then it drops down to like 5 to 10
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:36.229
for a live stream uh during the the deep
01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:38.550
off season. But I appreciate you guys
01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:40.070
for hanging out. This was uh a lot of
01:13:40.080 --> 01:13:43.990
fun. Tool says fools be do fools do be
01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:47.910
missing out. Ain't that the truth.
01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:49.590
All right, I appreciate you guys so much
01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:51.430
for listening. Thank you for hanging out
01:13:51.440 --> 01:13:53.270
with me. Uh, it's a lot nicer than
01:13:53.280 --> 01:13:56.790
having to do it solo. From me and from
01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:58.070
Jake, I want to [music] thank you all
01:13:58.080 --> 01:14:02.906
for listening. Go, Pack. Goat.
01:14:02.916 --> 01:14:09.456
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