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The infamous quote from You Can See Everything.
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They're not playing me, they're playing a character I created.
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So this was one of the main themes in the documentary.
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And if you haven't watched the documentary, spoiler spoiler alert, we will be revealing a lot of stuff today.
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Um, and that was just one of the main themes that came out of that documentary, which was really interesting because that quote was something that Elizabeth Holmes had said in a uh New York Times article.
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So I'll read you a little bit of a summary.
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It's a contested quote dispute.
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Holmes and her partner Billy Evans have challenged a 2023 New York Times profile quote in which Holmes allegedly said they're not playing me, they're playing a character I created, which refers to um Amanda Seyfred's um portrayal of her in um in the docuseries uh uh The Dropout.
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Uh Evans claimed she actually said a character they created and asserted they have audio recordings, though declined to provide proof.
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So why is this quote so important in that documentary?
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Which is really great.
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If you haven't watched it, it's coming out to streaming services, I think, end of November.
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I watched it in the theaters and it is crazy good because it's um it's got this Nathan Fielder style to it.
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If you don't know who he is, he's a very um he's done a a bunch of different shows.
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Um, he's a very sort of uh awkward, he's got sort of this um absurd sort of humor that he brings to all his shows.
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So if you haven't watched his work, I recommend you watch either The Rehearsal or Nathan for You so you get a better understanding of his style.
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Otherwise, you go into this thing and you're like, what is this guy doing?
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Anyway, so the um Elizabeth Holmes, who if you don't know, is um uh was about to go to jail.
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It was 30 to 35 days before she was sent to prison for committing crimes of wire fraud, um, with respect to her innovation, her technology that um she claimed worked, which didn't, and it basically was defrauding investors of all this money because she claimed this invention worked.
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It was meant to take one drop of blood and have the ability to analyze it and give you all these full uh laboratory results from it, but um, all the demos were a scam, all the demos did were just smoke and mirrors, and so she this is 30 days before she goes to jail.
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She is a bit of a character, which is something that in Nathan Fielder's shows, he he really fixates on bringing sort of like these different types of personalities and different types of people into his shows.
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Anyway, so that quote came from uh one of the conversations um between the one of the directors or one of the producers, Nathan Elizabeth, and her husband.
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Um, the husband's also a bit of a character, he's extremely toxic, which I'll talk about in another video, because I think it um speaks a lot to her choice in men and in relationships, and I think was probably part of one of the reasons why things went as far as it did with her company.
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Um, she surrounds herself with maybe not the best choice of people, and um they claimed that every interview it was recommended to them that they record any interview that they do after she was found guilty.
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And they claim they have all these audio recordings.
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She did not say that in this New York Times interview, but they they, the husband, whose name is hold on a second, um Billy Evans, did not want to give that evidence over to like the documentary team, which is very odd and I think very telling because if you are so persistent in your claims that she never said that, it's so easy to clear her name.
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Like, just give the recordings over.
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They're like, Oh, we scoured the recordings, we couldn't find it, we don't understand.
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We recorded all her interviews.
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Well, then just clear your name the easy way.
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You could have just honestly, and that documentary team, like they're that and especially that specific producer, Nathan Fielder.
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He's known for doing like crazy amounts of research.
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So for them, it would have been just like so easy just to give over this recording and have him, you know, listen to things, look things over, be like, oh yeah, I see what you're saying.
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That's like not what she said.
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But they completely like refuse, completely refuse.
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So I think, in all honesty, I think she did say it, and she um is trying to drive at the point that she's being like misrepresented in the media, but she's doing nothing to um to to clear her name.
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Like it was it was just such it was such an odd documentary.
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Quite honestly, she had an opportunity, she had an opportunity to just give the world her side of the story to completely change the narrative, and she was so closed off about it, and she just was like, nope, I didn't do it, I don't know what people are talking about, I don't know why people are targeting me, but it was so odd.
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In any case, so it was just such such a strange dynamic between her and her husband, and it was also such a strange um thing to do before you go to prison.
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Um, and she even said it in the documentary like I could be spending time with her kids.
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Like she's she before she went to prison, her um oldest child was a toddler, still on diapers, so probably easily two and under.
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And then the baby, she just had a baby.
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I mean, baby was still breastfeeding, uh, looked to be maybe about three months old.
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I don't know.
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And so she could have been fully spending time with her family.
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She chose to do this documentary, let them into her lives.
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If you're gonna take all that time and effort, would have been easy just to to clear a few things up.
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So I'm I'm actually uh quite surprised that um, you know, she didn't she didn't just hand over these alleged recordings that they have and just have them listen and hear that whatever was quoted by the New York Times was wrong.
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And the New York Times is pretty adamant in saying, like, this is this was the interview, this is what she said to us.
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And I believe them because, like I said, just hand over these recordings and it can be easily cleared up.
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And the New York Times will, I'm sure, happily retract because if they're clearly in the wrong, you know, they don't want to be seen as they don't want to have the reputation of a news outlet that you know just posts incorrect things.
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The other thing is with this quote, I think it is such an underlying theme in the whole thing because we also have this other, I want to call him a character because he's just a complete control freak, narcissist, the husband.
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And at times I looked at him and I didn't know if he was just playing things up for the audience because he knew it was a documentary, and um, in the middle of the documentary, it it's revealed that they wanted they wanted to be paid for it, which is you don't do that with documentaries.
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A documentary is meant to, you know, for like uh inform the public.
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Um, it's not meant, it's not like like a TV show where you're getting paid for it or a film where you're getting paid for it.
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And the um, you know, producers were like, no, we're not paying you.
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And then eventually they said, look, if you want us to be in it, you gotta pay us.
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So having that financial incentive, I don't know if it was a motivation for uh this person to just play things up on camera, to make it look like you know, everything it that he's like the the toxic husband, um, and to take some of the heat off of Elizabeth Holmes.
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I don't know.
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But definitely there was there was something clearly not right about that individual.
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I just don't know how much of it was authentic and how much of it was just meant for like shock value, um, and how much of it was meant um as a way to promote this guy's company because he was also um after Elizabeth went to jail, they wanted to carry on the the research and the innovation for this single drop of blood um uh piece of technology, which I think is crazy because nobody is going to trust you.
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After that, nobody is going to trust you.
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It's I don't know, like I said, this the whole thing was really, really bizarre.
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It was so bizarre to watch how the husband wanted to capitalize on Elizabeth's name and reputation, but her reputation is shit.
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So I don't know what he's trying to do.
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It was it was bananas and so absurd and really fit into sort of the Nathan Fielder sort of um type of personalities I think he puts on his shows sometimes, just these very like quirky people that you sort of find.
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Um in any case, so I don't know if that quote was relevant also to the husband, because I think I think the producers were trying to drop some clues about the personality of the husband, like through throughout without really calling it out, because then otherwise the audience doesn't get to decide.
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You know, it was sort of a little bit one of those documentaries where you want your audience members to make that decision for themselves, how they feel about these people, how they feel about the situation.
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Um, so it might have just been sort of like that.
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That quote might have just been like a little clue for us to say, like, hey, these people are just playing it up for you a little bit.
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And what I found really disturbing was that at one point the husband pulled, um Billy pulled Elizabeth aside and he's like uh coaching her basically on what to say.
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He's like, Oh, you're saying too much, and um talking to her.
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They were in um, I think it was like their San Diego home, and they were just sort of like trying to spend they it was a rental, they were just trying to spend time with family there before she went off to prison, before they moved to Texas where her um where the prison was because I think it was um uh easier for the family to go in and visit her at that type of of institution.
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Um but it was it was wild because he was just and she looked like
she looked like tired and exhausted.
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Obviously, she just has a baby.
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Like if anybody's a mom out there, you know, the the first year's so exhausting.
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You're up all night, you're always breastfeeding, like you know, the baby's developing very, very quickly, they're going through all these phases of development, it's like you know, they're teething, they're um trying to get their sleep cycles right.
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It's tricky, it's really hard, and so you know, she's just sort of like, okay, yes, agreeing with the husband, it was just such an odd dynamic.
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But one I think we should call into question because how much of it was real for the camera, and it also sort of just juxtaposes the whole um title of the documentary, you can see everything, but really how much are you seeing?
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Because are these people just like playing uh uh a role for us to believe in in some of the stuff they're telling us?
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I don't know.
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You tell me what do you think?
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What do you think, what do you think that that quote was put in there for?
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Because the the producers are very clever, like I said, go watch some of Nathan Fielder's stuff, go look at how he researches things and how he tries to sort of peel back complex problems in his other documentaries, even his comedy series, like he really tries to solve problems in different ways.
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So I feel like that was a very intentional um piece that they put in there for us.
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I just want to understand more why.
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Why, what else did that quote apply to that maybe we're not we're not fully recognizing?
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Anyway, you tell me.
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Do you think how much if you've watched the documentary, how much of what the Elizabeth and Billy were doing, how much of it do you think was fake for us, fake for the camera?
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How much of it do you think was authentic?
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Do you um believe that the husband was like putting on a show for us?
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I don't know.
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I want to hear from you.
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And do you think Elizabeth Holmes was uh do you think she was misquoted?
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Do you think they actually couldn't find that New York Times recording?
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Oh my god, and they they were just like, I they're just they're misquoting me in the media, they're portraying me as this evil person.
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Do you think that's what it is?
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Do you think the media is out to get her?
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I don't know.
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Drop it in the comments.
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I'll be making a couple of other videos on um different themes that I found in the documentary.
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This is just the first one, and I will see you in the next video.
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Bye guys.