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Speaker 1: We are discussing today five Cincinnati Reds who were a part of the twenty twenty sixteen that are not going to be back in twenty twenty seven. It's a pretty fun show we've got planned for everybody. So stick around and we'll get right to. OK, welcome back to Riverfront Territory. Trent, how you doing?
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Speaker 2: Great.
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Speaker 3: Here we are.
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Speaker 4: It's Friday.
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Speaker 3: World series on tap.
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Speaker 2: Uh, some team is going to have their first world series title of all time, which is.
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Speaker 3: Kind of cool.
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Speaker 2: If you ask me, I think it's, it's really kind of awesome. I'm looking forward to it. Um, we will see. I, I think I told you I picked the, uh, or the, um, the, the brewers, the race to beat the brewers before the, um, start of the post season. So I guess I got to stick with the, uh, The Rays, but I'll say Rays in six.
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Speaker 1: Okay. So you think the Rays will win it?
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Speaker 2: I thought so before. I kind of am leaning towards our friends, the Brewers, but I don't know. I got to trust that guy. He knew better than what I do now that he got them early at the beginning of the season.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: To see Nick Martinez win a ring is what we got here.
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Speaker 1: You know, and it's OK. Well, I have one comment on that just because I think it's it's not a cruel, but it's it's a it's the irony is not lost on me that the specific trade or acquisition that was discussed by the Reds front office that they that they wanted was was Nick Martinez and. and the ownership in the article that you and Ken Rosenthal published. This was the move that was basically, I think, encapsulates why the Reds are not like the Brewers and are not in the World Series. And how beautiful to tie that up with a bow that the guy that was discussed is the starter in Game 1 of the World Series.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Tough.
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Speaker 2: I mean, again, so everybody says, well, it's Nick Kroll. you know, Nick Carl saw a pretty good player. Now, would Nick Martinez, who had been here two years before, had the exact same season he did? Is maybe Tampa a better place for him to pitch X, Y, and Z? But their thought process was pretty good that we like Nick Martinez, and I think there's a lot of those things that Nick Martinez brings to the table. Now, of course, now, Nick Martinez, a guy who in 2026 was entering free agency, and we said, Do we expect to see him back a year ago?
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Speaker 3: And I think it was probably, it.
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Speaker 2: Was in that case where I am with some of these guys, where it's like, I could see it, but I don't expect it.
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Speaker 1: And we're now over a thousand. Thank you, everybody, for making us the fastest growing Reds podcast on the Internet. So that is awesome. You guys are great. Our goal is to be the most interactive podcast for Reds country. So what that means is when we go live, you can you can leave a comment. It will show up on set. if you want to call that, yeah, I guess this is a set, shows up on set behind me. And we also try to read all the comments that we can and discuss them. If you want to leave a super chat, that's a guaranteed way to get to the front of the line and we will discuss it. So without further ado, let's discuss the five Cincinnati Reds that we think are least likely to come back. Now, one thing we want you to do guys is comment the name of the player you think will not be back on the Cincinnati Reds. We're going to give you four names. The fifth name is going to be the fan vote. So we're going to be ranking them or tallying up the comments. It's actually going to happen automatically. It's going to show up behind me. I would say of all off seasons, this is one where, depending on how the season goes, do you want to see guys gone or see guys retained? This is a season where I think the fans would like to see a number of familiar faces gone. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, when you don't have the results, you don't want them back. Right.
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Speaker 2: And, um, that's just the way it is. And it's, it's not a value judgment on any of the character of any of these guys. It's a pretty good list of good guys. Um, so, but it all does come down to what happens on the field. Um, and so these are the names that you kind of look at and, um, say, hey, here's a guy who probably won't be back, and we'll discuss why and how maybe we could be wrong.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to go ahead and fire off name number one. I don't know if this is cheating, but I mean, he's been a big part of the Reds, but he's no longer a part of the team. The question is, though, will he be back? And I haven't really seen much discussion about this online. The name number one for me, Trent, is going to be T.J. Friedel. I don't think he's going to come back personally. Look, last year was rough. I think he needs a change of scenery. It was bad, man. I mean, 172 average. We've talked about him at length on this on this podcast. Great guy. We love him. He was what was the best player by Ward in 2023, a favorite season for many. But his time has I think is up for, you know, in Cincinnati. What are your thoughts on T.J. Friedel?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a
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minor league free agent, which he cleared waivers, did all those things, so that actually does help him this offseason. This offseason, remember, there's probably going to be a lockout, but teams can still sign minor league players, certain players to a minor league contract. Them designating him for assignment, releasing him, and granting him free agency.
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Speaker 3: There was some thought there.
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Speaker 2: About setting up TJ for his future so that he can shop around and find the best situation for him, which could be a lot of different things. And that's why I don't see TJ Friedel getting a big league deal for anybody. So he's probably going to have to look in and try to find a place, be it in somebody's organization who needs and wants his skill set. When he gets into the organization, they'll love the person. But again, it's all about delivering. Maybe there's somebody who has a different message that can help him out. Maybe it's just a change of scenery thing. So I think there is, you know, if nobody else has interest... I could see TJ Friedel signing, the Reds signing him to a minor league deal with a big league invite. That doesn't guarantee anything, but it is a body and it is somebody that they know, respect. And so I think there is a pathway there. But I also don't think it's very likely because then that would still be in just the Reds minor league organization unless he earns his way.
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Speaker 3: Because I think it would take.
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Speaker 2: Not just a good spring training, especially in the spring training that is most likely to be truncated. So I think there's a slight possibility, but I think you're right. I think the smart money is on TJ Friedel not returning.
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Speaker 3: And yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, I don't think he'll be back. Love the guy.
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Speaker 4: Great time.
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Speaker 1: But especially when you consider the youth coming up, where the Reds have it is in the outfield and with Carlos Jorge, with Hector Rodriguez. We need to get these guys, the reps, I think, and you just kind.
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Speaker 4: Of don't need it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he kind of looked like a T.J. Friedel, like maybe what you expected out of T.J. Friedel before when he wasn't an everyday player. And he thought, man, we can do better. But here's a guy that can do a couple of things and really help you out and plays really hard. And so I mean that as a compliment to both T.J. Friedel and Carlos Jorge, which I think is an interesting thing. Jorge certainly has, we saw some bunts. I'm guessing he's going to be working a lot on his bunting in the offseason. because it could be a real weapon. And that is something that T.J. Friedel used for, you know, was one of the best bunters in baseball for bunt hits over his career here.
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Speaker 3: So it is a weapon. It is something that could be used.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, it just looks like Carlos Jorge has kind of taken over the T.J.
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Speaker 3: Friedel role.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't wait to watch him. One comment, though, about, you know, Hector working on the bunt. I read that he will be working out with Ellie De La Cruz. I know that's not exclusively that's not his only training, but yeah, just a quick question for you, Trent, on that. What what do you think Hector will be working on when he's with Ellie? And maybe it's not anything specific. Maybe it's just, you know, following his lead.
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Speaker 2: I think that's a big part of it because, and that's who you want. You want him to see how the work that Ellie puts in, in the offseason, how he prepares for the season. You know, Ellie plays a lot of games. He's in great shape, you know, and really training. I think for them, it's not going to be like, hey, here's how you bought. It's more of the mental side of the game. And hey, this is how I approach. This is you know what? This is what I was struggling with. for a while against left-handers, what I wasn't picking up. Here's some other type of things. And I think that is something that just being around a player like Elie de la Cruz, and I know we all love the Elie de la Cruz, what he does on the field, but what's so underrated is what a cerebral player he is and how hard he works.
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Speaker 3: And how much he loves the game.
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Speaker 2: And Carlos Jorge, quite honestly... a lot of the same characteristics coming up. You talk to any manager who's had Carlos Jorge. Actually, I remember when they signed him at 16, talking to the international scouts, they loved his approach to the game, his work ethic, his leadership. You saw that once he got up here to the big leagues, this was not, you know, there are guys who get up to the big leagues who are talented that, you know, it's about getting focused and all that. I think, that's not something Carlos Jorge needs. What he needs is some of that, like, Hey Ellie, how did you adjust to this when the game came? Right. And a lot of those discussions and like just the bit I know about those two guys and the way they talk in English, I can't imagine how much in their native languages, because both are phenomenal.
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Speaker 3: English for both of them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And very similar guys that way. So I think that's, what's going to be interesting. And you know, Like Hector Rodriguez, who was a good player as well. And it feels younger, you know, just by, and a lot of that looseness is good. But Carlos Jorge feels a little bit older, a little bit. I mean, he's just, I think he has some more maturity and not saying he was immature, but just he's a very mature individual. And I think anytime he and Ellie get together, it's not going to be, messing around it's going to be learning about baseball and so i think that's really good.
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Speaker 1: Is carlos jorge going to be working out with uh with hector and ellie i just saw that he was
reported was and i don't know i just thought he said he was hector hector and i just saw the reporting that hector and ellie would be working out this offseason together.
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Speaker 2: Okay i'm sorry i knew hector was i thought you had seen something else on the other one.
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Speaker 4: So um It could be, but I can't imagine, you know, I won't ask Carlos.
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Speaker 1: We follow each other on Instagram. I'll shoot him a DM. And, uh, yeah, he, we followed him since, uh, he first came to Dayton and, um, yeah, just, I mean, he, he lights up a room, you know, he's great with fans. He's got a great approach and. I mean, he's he scales the outfield wall. He's got the speed. He's got some secret, you know, not secret, but sneaky pop. So Carlos Jorge is definitely a good name that is somebody who will be back. But getting back to who is going to be gone, I'm going to go and do number two trend and I'll have you do the next two after that. The next name that I've got is. Tyler Stevenson.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: I don't think Tyler Stevenson will be a Cincinnati red in 2027. I don't think Tyler Stevenson will be, um, I think he'll be, uh, yeah, wearing a different uniform. Um, look, he, he is somebody who maybe they could have brought back in my opinion. Um, if he continued on the trajectory, he was going through may, maybe even into June, but his second half was very strong. Um, um and beyond after the trade deadline too especially um everybody i don't know if you haven't seen it but there was a big emotional interview with uh jim day right before the trade deadline ty steve hit a home run in what would have been his last bat if he had been traded and uh nick craw shocked the world and the reds didn't trade him but um i think that uh you know he's mourned it the city has paid him you know given him his flowers i think it's a clean break and um We do have another exciting name in the minor leagues named Alfredo Duno, who doesn't have to come up right away. We have Jose Trevino, and we've got Banfield and some other options. But I'm looking forward to the future. I'm excited. I like the young guys. Trent, what are your thoughts on Tyler Stevenson and his 2027 season?
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Speaker 2: Are we doing probability, or are we doing probability? because I think the probability is that Tyler Stevens is not back. However, I think there is a way where he is back. And that to me is because of the lockout. You know, there is, we saw it the last time. There's a lot of, there's some movement, there will be some movement up to the lockout. But I don't know how much of those are going to be big deals, you know, like these large deals that lead off, you know, all the discussion. So I think, I think there was a point where after the lockout was solved, there was just a floodgate of moves, a lot of trades, a lot of other things. One thing, especially if that position catcher familiarity is so important, full spring training with a new
team is so important. I think there is a way where there's a one-year deal with Tyler Stevenson because, to me, it benefits both sides. It puts Tyler in the best light that, for the defensive part, which was the big.
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Speaker 3: Question mark, for that part is.
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Speaker 2: he's going to be working with mostly a pitching staff that he is really familiar with and is really familiar with him. To learn and not have a full spring training, which we probably will not have a full six-week spring training, that, again, is tougher for the acquiring team if they're unsure about defense because he rated out poorly in framing and some of those other things. I could see it where it'd be less likely to give him that shot. And I think the team that might value him the most, especially on a short-term turnaround thing like that, could be the Cincinnati Reds. So I could see how that could work. And I don't, you know, get excited about Alfredo Duno. I'm excited about Alfredo Duno as well. but do not be thinking about 2027 with Alfredo Duno. That's an unfair, no, seriously, I think it's unfair to Alfredo Duno with regards to that position.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know the Reds specifically have said, when I've asked them about, actually I asked them about Alfredo Duno, back when he wasn't promoted with the big wave mid-season two years ago, two seasons ago, from Dayton to Dayton, when everybody else was, and he had been performing really well. He was one of the leaders on the team in a couple of categories. And, um, I had messaged him and I was like, Hey man, like, or like, I haven't seen anything yet.
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Speaker 4: Like, or have you gotten word?
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Speaker 1: He said, no, I'm not, no, I'm not going to, to, to Dayton. Um, he wasn't promoted at that time. The red said that they like catchers to have around at least a season at each level, because it is so much more complex. There is so much more depth to the game. Um, as a catcher, you're not, you're not just in the field. You're not just at bat. You're managing a lot of the game on the field.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And like there are few places, better places to be if he is in Louisville and Pat Kelly's back. Pat Kelly is a guy who is a catcher, been around all these catchers. I think you'll see Corky Miller around him a lot more as well. So I think there's some interesting stuff that could be on tap there. I think everyone should be really excited about Alfredo Dino. But I think you also need to think about maybe 2028 is when you're starting to anticipate.
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Speaker 1: Okay. That is good. It kind of actually brings a random, a very throwback name that I was excited about growing up, a catching prospect in the early 2000s that did not end up making a splash. Do you know the name I'm about to say?
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Speaker 3: Chad Mottolo?
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Speaker 1: Dane Sardina.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I remember Dane Sardina.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: A lot of thoughts on there. So, all right.
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Speaker 4: Okay. Number three.
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Speaker 2: Now, in the comments, if you put down who you think will not be back, we'd love to hear that from you.
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Speaker 3: So, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yes, we are getting lots of comments. Okay, Trent, let's see here. I've got your picks, so I'll go ahead and launch. Looks like I just expanded you here.
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Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
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Speaker 4: The beauty of a nice live broadcast.
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Speaker 1: All right, Trent, I have your picks here. You selected Brock Burke as your pick number three of who will not be back.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Brock Burke was one of those. I just think he pitched... he pitched himself out of their price market, you know, left-hander, um, you have the measurables, uh, in, in the VLO and all those things.
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Speaker 3: He pitched really well. Um, he pitched a lot.
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Speaker 2: Now I think that could also hurt him because you look at like Tony Santeon, you know, Tony Santeon pitched a lot in 2025, a lot. And, um, that caught up to him in, in 2026. So I think there is some, you always worry about someone who's appeared in 77 games in a season like, like Brock Burke did, but you also know that he can do it. And that's a big one for me. I think he priced himself out. of the Reds what they're going to be willing to pay him. Another one of those guys that really enjoyed getting to know him this year.
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Speaker 3: Great dude.
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Speaker 2: But I think he might've just pitched too well to be back this year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Age 29 season for the Reds. He led the league in games for a pitcher at was 77 and, through a very elite 2.30 ERA with his strikeouts per nine innings at nine. Yeah, he's going to command some money with that. That's a great season with some left in the tank, to be sure. Okay, so that is number three. Number four, you have Eugenio Suarez.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it stinks. But I think there's also good things. Like, you know, Mason, I know you have just a trail of broken hearts in your past.
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Speaker 3: That mustache is just, oh.
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Speaker 4: Poor women.
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Speaker 1: It's now a beard. I had to get rid of the mustache.
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Speaker 4: That's true, it is.
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Speaker 2: I liked the mustache. Yeah, because you're a married man now. That's right.
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Speaker 3: You're a father.
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Speaker 2: If you had that mustache, you'd be spending all that time beating off others instead of, you know, taking care of your child.
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Speaker 1: So it'll be back once the baseball season is back, but yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll be, we'll be all right. I think.
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Speaker 2: So with that, like basically what I was going with was, you know, like you have an ex-girlfriend and you know, you haven't seen her for a while and you get, maybe just go out as friends or something like that, or to
dinner. And you realize why you really liked this person and you think they're really great person, but you also realize why you weren't a match and it didn't last. Um, you're reminded of these kinds of things. And I think Gino actually consider all things considered, uh, came up at the end and did some things that this team needed, but it just wasn't the.
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Speaker 3: Impact that I foresaw and some others foresaw.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, I just don't, you know, the Reds have an option on him.
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Speaker 3: And I don't see them actually, you know, picking it up.
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Speaker 2: And, you know, I'm not sure exactly what the market will look like for Eugenio Suarez next year.
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Speaker 3: But, yeah, you know what you're going to get. You're going to get... you're not going to get average. You're going to get some bumps. You're going to get some RBI.
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Speaker 2: I mean, 74 RBI and 26 home runs.
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Speaker 3: That's nothing to sneeze at.
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Speaker 4: Uh, right.
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Speaker 2: You know, they've had a lot less production from, from players who prepared more even. So I think, I think with that out and honestly, I can see where he goes.
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Speaker 3: I have not talked to him about this.
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Speaker 2: Um, not said anything about it, but, um, I can see where he and his– their feelings might have been hurt with the reporting because that's not something that anybody wanted out. Say, hey, baseball side didn't want you as ownership. I mean baseball side– I'm not going to say they didn't want them. They just thought the resources could have been allocated differently.
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Speaker 4: Right, the limited resources.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: And so, yeah, so I think that is maybe, but it's still an ego hit and it's still a hit and it's still tough to hear. So, um, yeah, you can blame me and Ken, uh, but I don't think that actually has come into it at all.
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Speaker 3: But, um, but yeah, so that's kind of my thought.
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Speaker 1: It didn't, you know, it didn't originate from you guys.
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Speaker 4: You're doing your, what you need to do.
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah.
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Speaker 2: As, as somebody said to me about like, yeah, nobody said anything to you about it because everything in there was true.
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Speaker 3: So, And we, you know, thoroughly vetted and everything.
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Speaker 4: It was a brilliant article.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very, very good.
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Speaker 4: Anybody that hasn't read.
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Speaker 1: It would be in shock, but definitely go read it on The Athletic. Is it still open to anybody to read?
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Speaker 3: It should be. If not, just send something to me and I can send you a link.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's beautiful. All right, Trent, we have got what looks like 1000 comments already. So that's incredible. So guys, we tried something new today. We're, you know, getting fancy, I guess you could say. But we've got The four names so far that are least likely to come back, TJ Friedel, Tyler Stevenson, Brock Burke, and Eugenio Suarez. Number five is going to be up to you, the fan. So you guys have been commenting, so let's go ahead and take a look where we're at. Okay, so.
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Speaker 1: Let's read it from the top here. We've got Owen Phillips saying, if T.J. Friedel is back, we riot. So, wow.
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Speaker 2: If he's back, it won't be on a big league deal.
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Speaker 3: I don't see him getting a big league deal somewhere, sadly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Okay. All right, Owen.
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Speaker 1: That has been squashed, your biggest fears. Jacob Doyle says, I would non-tender Tony Santillan. I can see that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, he dealt with injuries.
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Speaker 2: That's going to be an issue, but when he is on, he is, you know, you hope that maybe you, you paid for that last year and he comes back fresh.
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Speaker 3: Um, because if he comes back fresh, it's a, it's a, it's a big weapon. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: He's yeah. He can be great, but, um, we'll see what happens with, with Tony Santino. Um, rest in peace, Todd Benzinger, uh, from Joe Ressa and, uh, optimistic John says, uh, that he knew Todd from playing at Midland before MLB. Yeah, that, that was, that was unexpected. Of course, it's always unexpected. Um, a winner, you know, he's a world series winner with the reds and a big part of the community over the years. He, he's always at, you know, autograph signings and I didn't really know, I didn't know him at all, but from what I could tell, he seemed like a really great guy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Every time I dealt with Todd, what a kind human being. And that's the word that keeps popping up that people have been saying. And that's quite the legacy.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Prayers to Todd's family and everybody who knew Todd. Okay, so Stephen Lilly 686 wants, does Marte have any trade value?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's some, but I can't see getting enough back. to risk losing that lottery ticket yourself.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 4: Because there's enough talent in there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And so, yeah, I think that's, it's tough to see that as a possibility. I think they, at least through spring training. And again, for underperformers and guys either before, pre-arb, like Marte, or a veteran who's on a lower, longer one, like a key Brian Hayes, I just don't see them doing that in the off season. I think you want to at least, you know, it's, it's not like I've seen other ones where they have to take this out. They don't enter right before spring training. That's usually a person that you don't want in spring training that you don't want around your team with negative attitudes. You can go back and think of some, but that is going to be
different than, guys like Marte and keep Ryan Hayes who have done what they've been asked to do and show those abilities and just did not last year. I just, I can't see it happening. I can't see it happening without at least through spring training or training before preseason training. Can we have to change it in August?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Is this, is this his last season as a red? Do you think if, if things do not go well.
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Speaker 3: If things don't go well, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Fair enough.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a loaded question. All right. So let's see. We had some just intercommunication between– Some of the commenters, that's great. Talking about Midland amateur baseball, I'll leave you guys to that. John, do you like college football? I'm glad you guys are really enjoying each other here. We're all depressed Reds fans, so this is nice. Okay, question from Optimistic John is about Spencer Steer. Will Spencer Steer be back?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's under contract. I mean, they'll tender him contract. He has surgery, I think, they think very highly of Spencer Steer. Spencer Steer is a guy that they really want and want to build around.
00:29:39
Speaker 1: And he is somebody who has maintained his trade value. Right, Trent? Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:46
Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's going to be more questions.
00:29:48
Speaker 2: He would have been if he would have been on the trade, if he would have been healthy at the trade deadline. that's when you have a lot of really interesting discussions because I think he was the, he was the guy that most of the teams looked around and said, Hey, we really like this guy. And that is another reason why they will keep him around because they see the same thing and see it just as much.
00:30:11
Speaker 3: If not more.
00:30:13
Speaker 1: OK, this is an interesting comment. I like this comment by Jacob Doyle. Thoughts on Marlins shopping Xavier Edwards. For those who are not familiar, Xavier Edwards is a middle infielder for the Miami Marlins, former first round pick in the 2018 draft. out of Florida, but he's got 8.5 war in his careers. He debuted in 2023, um, I think May 2nd. So really maybe right around within a couple of days of Ellie. Um, but he had a three war season last year, hit two 80, um, OPS plus, you know, one Oh eight. So just a little bit above average, but, um, 21 stolen bases. He's got some speed and, uh, he's solid. Um, Do you remember when the Marlins were was it Yelich who was being shopped around?
00:31:06
Speaker 4: And I remember everybody wanted Christian Yelich.
00:31:09
Speaker 3: I remember Red Saints going, hell, they're so stupid. They didn't get Christian Yelich. Well, you have to have the other team like they do. Christian Yelich was a good player and they wanted to get Christian Yelich. They just didn't get the same package. And the team didn't. I mean, like.
00:31:22
Speaker 2: I just remember one certain segment of the fan base who were so convinced that they were the only piece of people in the world who could see value in Christian Yelich when everybody in the world saw it.
00:31:31
Speaker 3: Right. And a lot of teams wanted them.
00:31:34
Speaker 2: And there are 28 other teams who probably wanted Christian Yelich at that point. And the fact that one team did not get him or 27 other teams or not, I guess involved a shot.
00:31:48
Speaker 1: Right.
00:31:49
Speaker 3: And everybody thinks it's because their people are stupid when it's just like other teams wanted them to.
00:31:55
Speaker 4: So what's your take on Xavier Edwards?
00:31:59
Speaker 2: I think it'd be an interesting one. I think there would be a lot of interest when there's a lot of interest. The prices go up. There's a lot of interest in gas. Not a lot of gas there.
00:32:09
Speaker 3: Prices are up.
00:32:11
Speaker 1: Right. And I think the bigger question is what's the Reds ownership gonna be doing here in the short term with the Ellie clock ticking? Either they're gonna trade Ellie or they're gonna try to build around him. And so far, the communication from ownership has been they intend on building around him. Is that correct?
00:32:31
Speaker 3: At least in the short term.
00:32:32
Speaker 1: Right. So that is an interesting name. Thank you for that comment there. Okay, so let's see here. What else we have? Keith Burke, Lodolo. Lodolo will be back next season. Brady Singer.
00:32:50
Speaker 3: Under contract.
00:32:54
Speaker 2: Singer, there was a point right before the trade deadline that it looked like they were talking about, oh, well, we'll do the qualifying offer.
00:33:03
Speaker 3: I think that is no.
00:33:05
Speaker 2: Longer the case. I can't see them offering him a qualifying offer because... the chance of him signing elsewhere for enough to earn that, that qualifier, the, the pick, it's just not, it's not realistic. He, he, those last two months, he really struggled. He was, you know, a really solid pitcher for the first two months. And then this last two months really struggled.
00:33:25
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:33:26
Speaker 1: No. If they can get him at a competitive, you know, a reasonable value, you think he'll be back? Yeah.
00:33:34
Speaker 3: I think that's a possibility.
00:33:35
Speaker 2: Like that's one that I can see where, both teams just go okay yeah it's not going to be this 23 million or whatever the the qualifying offer would be but we'll work around because he is a guy that you know is really this team values is a lot of the same things that they valued nick martinez for they value for and brady singer.
00:34:00
Speaker 1: Yeah okay um last name thrown out here is key brian hayes.
00:34:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's back. I mean, just because, again, like I said, like with Marte.
00:34:16
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:34:17
Speaker 1: So, all right. So let's take a look at the tally here. And the fan vote is actually Key Brian Hayes is the name that they think is the least likely to come back and is going to be number five in our list. Fair enough. I think if that contract wasn't there, there's about a 0% chance he would be back. But the fact of the matter is he is under contract, not just for next season or the next season or the next season. I think it is through 2029, right?
00:34:46
Speaker 4: So yeah.
00:34:48
Speaker 1: So the next three seasons, if he doesn't turn.
00:34:51
Speaker 3: It around, it needs to be this year.
00:34:55
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:34:55
Speaker 3: This is the make or break here. Great.
00:34:58
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