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The Game Changers Podcast.
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You have 40,000 thoughts a day or something, and half of them are negative.
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So when I get to talk to people who have every reason to be negative, every reason to say why me, every reason to say I'm gonna quit, and they don't, honestly, that fills me up and that keeps me going and that motivates me to be better, and it allows me to coach people through because I use these stories, you know, as examples of what happens when you don't give up.
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You get to taste glory again, whatever that glory is.
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And man, I'm lucky to talk to some of these people.
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They really are incredible.
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The Game Changers Podcast with Linda Martindale.
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Welcome to the Game Changers Podcast.
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I'm your host, Linda Martindale.
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I'm so excited to share my show with you today.
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You see, I've always been fascinated by comeback stories and really captivated by athletes and coaches that have experienced setbacks or challenges that really seem impossible to overcome.
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Although every guest, every story on my show is different.
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The underlying theme is my personal favorite superpower with doing it.
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Join me as I dig in and uncover the real scoop.
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Not the fluffy stuff, but the real juicy details.
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Sit back, get inspired by my guests, who faced some really tough stuff.
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I came back stronger than ever.
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Here we go.
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Have you ever met someone who doesn't just see the glasses half full?
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They literally see it as overflowing.
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I mean someone who seems almost wired to find the opportunity and the silver lining in almost everything.
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That is my guess this week.
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Coley Cassidy has an energy and a mindset that immediately caught my attention.
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At such a young age, she has an incredible sense of who she is, what matters to her, and maybe most importantly, the understanding that she is so much more than what she does on the volleyball court or in the boat.
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She is a two-sport student athlete at Wesleyan University, competing in volleyball and crew, while double majoring in government and art.
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But her identity stretches far beyond sports.
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She's passionate about leadership, service, creativity, and making an impact.
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She recently spent a summer interning at the Aspen Institute, learning alongside leaders from journalism, public service, business science, and the arts.
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But you know what my favorite part is?
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She describes herself as enforcer of effort and attitude and also her own best friend.
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And if you've been listening to this podcast for a while, you know how much I love that.
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I recently launched my mental fitness self-assessment tool.
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And while Coley hasn't taken it yet, I have a feeling she will break the scoring system.
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She embodies so much of what we talk about when we talk about mental fitness, perspective, resilience, self-awareness, intentionality, and the ability to find confidence in who you are, not simply in how you perform.
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Welcome, Coley.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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And I love that you're sitting outside on this beautiful day.
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And you have a long list of amazing accomplishments for someone so young.
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So can we kind of just start with growing up and how you were involved with sports and how it got to a place where you could actually decide to play two collegiate sports?
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Tell me everything from the beginning.
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So I honestly give so much credit to my family and my parents.
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My parents were both college athletes at Nescaq schools.
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My mom played volleyball and my dad played ice hockey.
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So my parents had four girls.
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And of course, all of us were going to be ice hockey players.
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So that's what I did for a majority of my life until I realized that ice hockey was not my passion when I started rowing.
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I think I realized that.
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I am from Colorado.
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So I always grew up hiking, skiing, and having a great appreciation for the outdoors.
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But I went to boarding school in the East Coast.
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And that's where I was introduced to rowing and really fell in love with the aspect of athletic women and positivity.
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And so literally a sport like rowing is what brought that to you because I feel like hockey is also a sport where it's a bunch of badass girls, but it's a very kind of male-dominated sport.
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What did you find in rowing that like attracted you so much?
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So rowing attracted me because it's all about the grind set.
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I feel like there is like your effort is shown based on your erg screen.
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Are you familiar with rowing and the Oh my gosh, I am because I've had several rowers on this podcast, and there's like a piece of me that's like, oh hell no, like I would never do it.
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It sounds awful.
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And then I talk to rowers who love it.
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It's like you love the grind because it's hard.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Because you know that whoever is on your team is working the way you're working.
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Like your the amount of effort you put in is shown on your ERC screen.
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So it's really about being selfless and pushing when you don't want to push.
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And given that it's a sport of so much intensity and so much work ethic, that's how I found some of my best friends because it really brought the people together who wanted to work and who wanted to grind for something greater than ourselves.
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Yeah.
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So I've heard that.
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So that was interesting.
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That was attractive to you.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And your parents were Nescaq athletes.
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Did were they on the East Coast then?
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My parents both grew up in Colorado, where I grew up.
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Okay.
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And they found the NESCAC conference athletically to be very perfect for their athletic pursuits and their academic interests.
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So they And I would say for people who are listening who don't know, the Nescaq is a very high academic Division III conference that is very difficult to get into.
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They have their own roles.
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Like it is very academic and very high-level sports as well.
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So I agree that it's very unique.
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It's a certain kind of person who wants to play a sport in the Nescaq.
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Like you have to be serious about more than just your sport.
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Is that fair to say?
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Right.
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It still takes a lot of, it's a lot about being, I think, a well-rounded and a well-balanced individual.
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And my two older sisters went to NESCAC schools as well.
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So it was on my radar.
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Okay.
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My oldest sister played hockey at Bowdoin in Maine.
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And my sister, Lillian, she played ice hockey at Trinity College.
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So not too far from Wesleyan, where I am.
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Yeah.
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And then I have a little sister who kind of went off on her different path, a non-Mascat girl, but she's division one growing at Colgate this year.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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So you have an intense family.
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This is like, this is uh legit.
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Four girls, dad's like, get on the rank.
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Um, you guys all play hockey.
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So you love volleyball too.
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You know, when you were kind of growing up, were you pushed into these things?
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Were you encouraged?
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What did that look like?
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Honestly, not at all.
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I feel like the only kind of requirement I had in my family was that I played sport.
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And I was able to, of course, have so many interests outside of sports, but I played sports and then would have to come home for family dinner every night.
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And that was like our time together, family dinner.
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And what did that look like?
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What was the family dinner like?
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I think this was just a rule that my parents set in place because they wanted us to have time to convene and connect daily.
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And this is the reason I think I'm best friends with my sisters and so close with my parents.
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And the reason I think I'm able to thrive academically and athletically is because of this time that we spend together really to connect and share values and just talk about our days.
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And that's something I try to bring to college too.
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Okay.
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I would say like there's there is something unique in this for parents who are listening because I talk to so many exceptional athletes, and so many of them say that there were some rules in their family about being balanced.
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And, you know, as intense it is as it is to be a collegiate athlete, and both of your parents were, they knew there had to be something else along with it.
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Is that kind of what you're saying?
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Yeah, of course.
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And my parents were like, oh my gosh, just so much, I have so much gratitude and appreciation for them because they were so supportive growing up.
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Like, of course, I was initially fearful of quitting hockey, but it's not like I was quitting hockey for nothing.
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Like I was quitting hockey to pursue other athletic endeavors that would make me feel more whole and
more like myself.
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So honestly, so much, yeah, so much love to them.
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Okay, I love it.
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All right, so here you are.
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Is it fair to say?
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I mean, you go to a pretty intense prep school too.
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Like these prep school situations are you're away from home, you know, you're expected to handle yourself, really.
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And I have, you know, a son who also did that.
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Was that a hard transition for you going to a school on your own?
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What did that look like?
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Initially, it was a bit hard, but I think 14 was when I went away.
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And I think that's when I realized, like, wow, I'm a person.
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And I have so much, I felt like I had so much confidence for that time and so much enthusiasm and good energy to bring.
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And I was really able to hone in on what I enjoyed because of these new relationships I was having.
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In my hometown, unfortunately, I didn't feel like I was surrounded by people who were academically invested and athletically invested, like I was.
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So when I went to prep school, I was like, these are my people.
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These are the people I can like thrive with.
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Like it was such a good community for me to be in.
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I'm so much.
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Only person who's ever said at 14 you had all this confidence about who you were gonna be.
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I feel like at 14, most girls are like, I just want to hide under a rock and like get through this.
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So look at you.
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Okay, so here you are.
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Your parents obviously knew that this is workable for you.
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When did your athletic endeavors come to a place where you thought, I want to play at the next level?
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So I'd say my sophomore year of high school.
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This is when I was really locking in on my training schedule.
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And at this time, rowing wasn't as much in the picture.
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I really wanted to get recruited for volleyball.
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And this was hard because volleyball on the East Coast is not very existent and the same level that volleyball in California or volleyball in Florida is.
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So even in the Midwest.
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So I was really having to push myself to get better.
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And when I was sending those emails to college coaches, I really tried to profile myself as someone who's not just an athlete, but very much a student.
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Like I, this is what I score.
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This is what I'm interested in academically, and I have a lot to offer.
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Like I'm a personality higher, if you will, because I knew that my athletic skill was very separate.
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I wasn't easily gonna get recruited.
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And I mean, you know how this ended up, but I decided that I wanted to apply to Wesleyan University for the school that it was.
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So I applied early decision and then had the opportunity to walk on to the volleyball and rowing teams.
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So you chose Wesleyan with the idea that you would try to walk on and make it work, kind of thing.
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Right.
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Right.
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And I did have hope.
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I did not lose hope in this process.
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I was like, I know that I will work my butt off.
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And I know that a coach and my teammates will be lucky to have someone like me.
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I really did have that confidence going into where does this kind of come from?
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Is it like growing up with all these sisters that like keep you in your place and it helps you build family more?
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That's a part of it.
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That's definitely a part of it.
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I mean, being a middle youngest sister too, I was not the highlight reel.
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I was a girl who just kind of flew under the radar and always trusted my instincts and relied on my work ethic and positive energy.
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But I feel like a lot of this confidence comes from self-care.
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I think at the end of the day, I have so much faith in myself and I know that I'm not only an athlete.
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And I try to use that to my advantage, even in college daily.
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Like I really try to take advantage of all extracurriculars and all things that make me me outside of sports.
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Okay, we're just gonna have to unpack this because really truly, I feel like if you could bottle some of that, you know, you could sell it for billions.
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Like so many people wanna understand.
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Let's break down the first part of what you said, and that is self-care.
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I'm assuming that ties into self-talk, which is something that I work really hard with athletes on.
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Sure.
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Describe like good self-care, describe the choices, like, and I know that's a choice.
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So describe the choices that
you make consciously to continue to, you know, boost your own self-worth.
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Right.
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I think something I've learned over the years is discipline.
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And I think that this comes into self-care so much because there are times when you don't want to go to bed early.
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There are times when you're wound up.
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But I think that that is crucial to succeed in athletics is knowing that you're doing all you can, whether it's fueling your body with nutrition or fueling your body with rest.
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Like these are big self-care things that I partake in.
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And also I, I mean, I study art as well.
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I double major in government and art.
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So I'm very like, I know that drawing or like knitting, like doing things with my hands is very soothing to me.
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It might not be for everyone, but for me, it's very soothing.
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So I make sure to get a dose of that in every day to keep myself calm.
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And also I think there's a misconception of, oh, you're a student athlete, like you must be so busy.
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And I think, yes, I mean, in the grand scheme of things, like I am, I guess, busy, but I don't feel busy because I feel so balanced because of my self-care.
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And when you talk about self-care, I mean, obviously you're talking about eating food that makes you feel good.
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You're talking about getting sleep, of course.
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Yes.
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You also add in some of your art stuff and your knitting and things that soothe you.
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And like, I love that you can find something that relaxes you.
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Do you make a conscious decision to not have your phone involved in in things that you're trying to find joy in?
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Tell me about that.
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Oh, a hundred percent.
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I feel like I like even when I wake up in the morning, I I have a little meditation book and I literally like, oh, I love this meditation book so much because I read it first thing when I get up and then right before I go to bed.
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So there's no need for the stimulation of my phone at all.
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And maybe I'll check my phone like two hours after I'd been up to see if I, if there's anything I missed out on, like commitment scheduling-wise.
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But I feel like my daily meditation really keeps me off the phone.
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And there will be some mornings where I'll wake up and feel a little anxious.
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Like, you know, when you're sleeping and at like before your alarm goes off, like you just have a little pit in your stomach.
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Sometimes I have that.
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And then once I open my eyes, make my bed, I'm able to honestly take a good deep breath and be like, wow, like kind of like the look at how far I've come, look at what I get the to do today.
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Like, I feel I'm just like grounded in gratitude.
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Like I wake up and no clue what the difference is.
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For my listeners who are just hanging this up and they're like, I can't even listen to this.
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This is just doesn't resonate with me at all.
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This is something you have to practice.
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And I implore people who feel unbalanced and I implore people who are not finding joy in gratitude to break it down into small pieces and practice it.
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Tell me, Coley, you make this choice and you practice it.
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And even when you're having a bad day, you push yourself to continue because we go back to that first word, which is discipline.
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Right.
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Where do you get the discipline?
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Do you get the discipline because you understand the rewards, or is it something that's inbred in you?
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That's such a good question.
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There's a mix of it.
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I think I really respond to the gratification of doing what's good for me, even though I might not want to do my meditation or I might want to go directly on my phone.
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I don't go on my phone when I wake up because I know that the payoff is so good.
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Therefore, I think that keeps me coming back.
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And I know as an athlete, like you will, like for I don't know, like a volleyball example, like you will hit the same shot if it's working.
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Like you will, because it'll get you a point, it'll get your team a kill.
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Like there are things that sports have taught me too that, you know, play into my daily habits that make me that give me gratitude.
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Okay.
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So, and I hear you, and I believe you.
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And I also, you know, love that you make these choices for yourself and you have such beautiful energy.
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Tell me about some hard things.
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Like, tell me what it looks like for you when it's hard.
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So, so many people, you know, have come on our podcast and talked about really, really hard things and how they got through.
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What does a really low time or
hard time look like for you?
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And how do you sort of climb out of it?
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Yeah, I think, well, right now, one big thing that I'm grappling with, I'd say I'm in a hard time right now because I'm trying to figure out how to find my purpose after college.
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And that's something like what year are you?
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Are you a junior?
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I'm a junior.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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So I know it's like fewer my feet are like I'm only halfway through college and I have more time to think about career.
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But I also am super ambitious and I want to have a purpose and I want to have an impact.
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So going through this hard time, I kind of give myself that it's gonna be okay because I have learned also through travel and study abroad, like I had learned that I am my best friend at the end of the day.
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And I have a great support system, but I need to be very aligned with my heart and my values in order to like work through things that can be challenging.
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Hallelujah, sister.
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Okay.
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Let's talk about values because you are very wise.
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And the truth is, is like for some of us, we don't even know what we value.
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And for me, Coley, I mean, I have four children.
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I've had, you know, jobs that have taken me all over the world.
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I didn't even know what I valued.
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It took time for me to get it.
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How, and there's so many amazing tools out there, by the way, if anyone's looking to figure out their values, like reach out to me and I will set you in the right direction.
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How did you sort of decide what your values were or how you came to them?
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And then how do you sit in them?
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Yes.
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So this is so funny that you bring this up now because I'm a student athlete orientation leader at Wesley and it's called Take Flight Leader because our mascot is a cardinal.
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So like teaching people how to fly.
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Um, and one of our activities last week was a big sheet of maybe 50 terms, 50 values.
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And within that group, you pick your top 10 and then you narrow it down to top three.
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And it really gets you thinking with your body and your heart, it really puts a lot of thought into what you value.
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What do we value?
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And I think certain things that I value are authenticity.
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I think this is something that I value because I observe myself being like in daily interactions with people.
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Oh, I really appreciated this person because they were authentic.
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And then I was able to realize that's why I value them, not because of like what they did or what they looked like.
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I valued them because they were themselves.
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And that was so inspiring.
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Another big value of mine is my family.
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I feel like they are my support system, my true and true.
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And another one of my values is service.
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I know I get such, such love out of service, whatever that means to me.
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For me, it's volunteer work and lending hand whenever.
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And then I think I'm backed on, I'm backed with love.
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That is one of my big values as well.
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Okay.
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I hear you.
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And for those of you listening, like it really does make sense to figure those out because it does lead you.
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It also helps you with discipline when you know what you value.
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And this idea that I know if I do this, something good will happen for me is a beautiful way to think.
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So let's go back to sports specifically.
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Um, you have so many things about you that have nothing to do with sports, but I want to talk about how hard is it to be a student athlete on two different teams.
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You're in college.
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Does one pull you one way and one pull you the other way?
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Do you feel like a volleyball player who rows, or do you feel like a rower who plays volleyball?
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Oh my gosh.
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Wow.
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I feel it's so dependent on the season.
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So right now I'm in volleyball season and I got here early in August for preseason.
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So that this is a time where I kind of forget about rowing, but I know in a month I'm gonna have to start sitting my butt on the erg and start building up my endurance so that I can get into training come November, December, whenever volleyball's done.
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But I think socially, oh my gosh, I've won the lottery.
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Like I have two teams of best friends.
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And I also think my role on each team is very different.
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Tell me about that.
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Yeah.
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So because I mean our volleyball team last
year, we had huge success.
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We're currently 10 and 0, undefeated, doing very well.
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Wow.
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We just have a great, we have a great program and a great coach.
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And I know and understand my role on the volleyball team is I won't be, I'm not a starter.
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Like I am a cheerleader on Friday and Saturday games.
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I really am.
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And I've took that and I've leaned into it.
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And I know that Monday through Thursday, when we have practice, like I will get better.
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And I totally will, yeah, put in the work.
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But on the weekends, if I'm not put in the game, I will cheer.
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And I know that's my 100% of what my team needs from me.
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And for rowing, so my freshman year, we went to NCAA's and I was at, yeah, at nationals.
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And that was incredible because I was amongst the top or 14 girls on my team, and we were going and competing, and we ended up winning.
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So are you a bigger contributor in rowing than you are in volleyball in terms of actual play or no?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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So you're more you I mean, listen, I even hate I cringe to use this word with you, by the way.
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You have more success in rowing because you don't see it that way.
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But like on a on a stats page.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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And does that help you to take on this role in volleyball?
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Do you think if you didn't have rowing, it would be more frustrating in volleyball to not have a bigger role, or do you not see that?
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I hadn't thought about that before, but yes.
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I mean, I think also my role in volleyball, the way I'm able to like justify, if you will, is like I am a person.
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Like I have so much going for me, and volleyball is just a little part of my day.
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But yes, I do get a lot of, I guess, validation and support because I am contributing, physically contributing a lot during the racism growing.
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Okay.
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And are you a captain on either team?
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No.
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Okay.
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Do you have captains on your team that you really look to?
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And what does leadership look like for you?
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Yes.
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Oh my gosh, most definitely.
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I have
such good role models on both teams.
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And this is actually why I'm so interested in leadership.
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And I feel like it makes your whole experience having leaders you can look up to.
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I totally agree.
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And by the way, like I I'd love to hear your perspective because I, you know, coach leaders and peer leadership is powerful.
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It is powerful, very powerful.
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So I'm thinking of an example for volleyball.
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We lift two times a week.
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We get to the gym at 7:45 a.m.
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And then this is all before we have a long two-hour practice.
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And I think leadership in that regard looks like showing up ready and bringing the energy.
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Like we're ready to work.
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This is what we do.
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And I think what my volleyball and rowing teammates do such a good job of at the college level is no complaining.
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Like there really is no complaining.
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And I feel like that's so inspiring.
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And that's the like a role model quality that I think is just untouched is like the ability to work, to work.
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Like you are not expecting anything out of your hard work other than the trust of your teammates and the respect of your teammates to show up day in, day out.
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That's it.
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I mean, that's it.
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Like that's powerful.
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And and by the way, it's bringing positive energy.
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It's it's about leading others when you know it's hard.
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And let's not like, let's not discount the fact that this is really hard, Coley.
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You have a beautiful mindset and a great energy about you.
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Let's not BS anybody.
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This is really hard.
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Like, tell me, please, this is not easy.
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You do not get up in the morning and be like, wow, I'm going to the park for a slow walk.
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Like you're busting your butt.
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Right.
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Right.
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And it's, yeah.
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And you do like, especially for the early morning lifts.
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:52.240
Like yesterday I forgot my umbrella.
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It was like walking in the rain at 6 30, like not even walking, but like shuffling, because I knew I was running a few minutes behind.
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And I was like, wow, this is my, like, this is my light, but it's everything I worked towards, like growing up.
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Like this is my dream.
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Have you ever heard of the, or I don't know, maybe it's a trend I've seen on social media, but like the little me would be so proud right now.
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Like I often feel that where I'm like, wow, I'm really put into the perspective of my younger self and be like, this is really everything that I wanted.
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Okay.
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And I think that's what keeps me motivated and grounded.
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A hundred percent.
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.440
We call that, you know, your why, right?
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:34.559
So, like, what's your why?
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:35.279
What's your why?
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:36.960
And you're hitting on a bunch of things.
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:42.720
And and for my normal listeners, like I did not, I did not prep her for this interview.
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:44.000
We were like, what?
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.359
She's touching on every single mental fitness like pillar.
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.599
But the truth is, this is stuff that you have chosen to do.
00:27:51.680 --> 00:28:00.240
And one of them is you're very clear on your values, you live your days with gratitude, and you recognize your why is your younger self.
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:06.480
And when things get really hard and it's pouring rain and you have no umbrella and you're working yourself to a 6:30 a.m.
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lift, you have a couple choices.
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You can drag yourself back to bed and say, forget it.
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.319
So you could quit, which would never do.
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:22.079
Or you can be miserable and complain and moan about it and talk about how unfortunate your circumstances are that morning.
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:28.240
Or you can choose to look at your little self and be like, man, my little self would dig where I am right now.
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:28.880
Right.
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Right.
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100%.
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Oh my gosh, I love it.
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:31.920
Okay.
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:33.680
So here you are now.
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You're a junior.
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Have you had any injuries?
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:38.079
Have you had any setbacks?
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.000
And what did those look like for you?
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:45.279
Honestly, I've been very, my body has been very healthy, knock on wood.
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.759
And I credit that to the athletics.
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:51.839
What do you call the athletic trainers?
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:53.599
The athletic trainers in college.
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:56.960
Like I go to the ice bath when I know my body needs it.
00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:01.200
And I always try to prioritize
stretching too after practice.
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.400
So no, I have not had any physical setbacks.
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But I think honestly, no, I feel like I've been so, so blessed.
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Okay.
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:14.400
All right.
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.279
Tell me about the difference between your two coaches.
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:22.640
Is there is there one coach you connect with in a different way than the other, or what are they all about?
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:24.319
Oh my gosh.
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.359
So I have two coaches.
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:31.359
Both are men in similar ages and stages.
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:36.079
Don't know their ages exactly, but somewhere between 50 and 60, both of them.
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:37.920
So they've been around for a little while.
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.680
Yeah, and they've been at Wesleyan for a little while as well.
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:49.759
And I feel like they both have had such big success in terms of creating programs that people want to be at.
00:29:49.920 --> 00:30:01.119
And I think that at Wesleyan on the Rowing and Volleyball T, we have, I don't know what it's called athletic-wise, but a big yield where it's like if you get in, you are often gonna go.
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:08.799
I think a lot of people who come to visit a lot of recruits want to come here because of the way that people speak about the program.
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:16.960
And my coaches have been super honest, super vulnerable with me.
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:27.119
And I feel like that's been a great thing as a student athlete because you want to know that your work is seen and that your work is appreciated.
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:40.160
So you've been seen by these men, and let's be honest, like it might not be easy for you, let's call them 50, a 50-year-old man to connect with a young female student athlete, Wesley.
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:40.640
Right.
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:42.640
And how do how do you think they do it?
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:44.400
I love how you said they're vulnerable.
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:45.599
What does that mean?
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:53.200
I think it means, well, okay, so for instance, my volleyball coach, he is he's tough love.
00:30:53.599 --> 00:31:04.880
Like you, I think a lot of girls also, because I've talked with some girls who don't play, that they've said it's hard because he doesn't give you very much validation.
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:17.200
And you don't get validation by bringing your best self every day, but you might get validation by him putting you in a drill or putting you in a situation where you can succeed.
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:20.799
It's like you have to build his trust how you are as a teammate.
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:24.799
And it's not even just like how your skill set is volleyball-wise.
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:34.720
It's like you have to build the trust of your teammates by showing up to lift, working hard, and bringing good energy onto the core into drills when you're put on.
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:42.799
So I feel like that's a lot of it is like just being consistent with the way you show up and then you will get rewarded.
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:45.599
And I feel like consistent with how you show up.
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:45.920
Yeah.
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:47.119
You will get rewarded.
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:56.240
Now that is your perspective because you've you sense that from him, you just know that from him, or is he really clear on that?
00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:06.559
Honestly, my first year as a freshman, it was hard because I was showing up and I knew my role on the team was not gonna be on the court.
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:11.759
And I really just tried to show it, show up day in, day out.
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:25.599
And I didn't get any really lead or any validation from him, but I got it from my teammates, where my teammates were like, we appreciate you, we see you like shagging balls and getting water, like all of that.
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:38.720
And then it wasn't till my end of the year meeting with my that coach where he really was, and I mentioned this word again, vulnerable with me by telling me how much he sees me as shining in a supporting role.
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:42.240
Like, and that meant the most to me because that was all I was able to give.
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:46.720
And I felt like I was able to give a hundred per was given to me.
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.400
So he was able to recognize that and see you for who you were.
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:51.039
Yes.
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:52.880
And that, I mean, that meant the most.
00:32:53.039 --> 00:33:00.720
Like if someone recognizes you as a good teammate, like that literally makes me want to cry because that's like that's my daily goal.
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:01.279
Okay.
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:02.400
I mean, that's amazing.
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:04.880
And would you say, does he believe in you then?
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:06.640
Yes, I think so.
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:09.920
I think he very much believes in me.
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:15.279
And it makes me like I've had to believe in myself before he's believed in me, too.
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:15.839
Okay.
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.319
And you said something that was really interesting to me.
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:21.359
You said, I'm my own best friend, which I love.
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:24.319
I also believe that you are your best coach.
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.160
And so you are your inner coach.
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:31.519
And, you know, one of the things that I do for a living is I help others build their inner coach.
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:36.640
Tell me how you coach yourself and what does it sound like, even when you need a kick in the butt.
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:39.759
Like there's days when it's like, you know what, girl, that's not enough.
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:40.640
You got to be better.
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:42.240
What does your inner coach tell you?
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What does that sound like for you in rowing and in volleyball?
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So for rowing, my inner coach sounds harsher than in volleyball, because I know that there's no sugar coating.
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There's no sugar coating what you do when you are in a boat or on an erg.
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And volleyball.
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Like your results are your results.
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Your time is your time.
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Like you can't even, it's like it's not subjective.
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It's a demonstration of your effort.
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Yeah.
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And I feel like in volleyball, sometimes like my coach says the ball is round, your arms are rounds, like things are gonna happen.
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Like you might be in the perfect position and you will shank a ball.
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Like that'll happen.
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So they're very different sports in that aspect.
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But I am very much an enforcer of effort and attitude.
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Like I know those are the controllables.
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And I think that was something a coach taught me, I want to say in my middle school.
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I don't know through what sport, but I just that's something that's really stuck with me because there are things you can't control.
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And effort and attitude are two of the things you can.
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Yes, girl, you are speaking my language.
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:52.800
Okay, I love what you're saying.
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I am going to stop you right now for a second, and we're gonna play a game that I play with all of my guests.
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I name two things, and you tell me which you would prefer.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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It's time to play Would You Rather?
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We'll start easy, hamburger, hot dog.
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Are you vegetarian?
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Oh, easy.
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:12.239
Oh my gosh.
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No, I'm not vegetarian.
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Hot dog.
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Okay.
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That is not usually the pick, but ice cream or cake?
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Ice cream.
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Would you rather have a contract with Lululemon or with Nike?
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Lululemon.
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Would you rather vacation in the mountains or at the beach?
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Mountains.
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Would you rather win a national championship in volleyball or a rowing championship?
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Oh my gosh.
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Volleyball.
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Okay.
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Would you rather do a hundred burpees at volleyball practice or a 2K erg test every Monday morning for an entire semester?
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Oh, this is the hard one.
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I think burpees you'd rather do burp.
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Okay, that is another reason why I will never row.
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:01.679
Like, I hear I hear rowers say stuff like that.
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I'm like, I don't know how many burpees I would have to do, but like, holy cow.
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Okay, you pick burpees.
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Would you rather have your volleyball coach join the crew team for a semester or your crew coach practice with a with the volleyball team?
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I'd rather have my volleyball coach join the crew team for a semester.
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Would you rather never do conditioning again or never have a really early morning class?
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I am okay with morning class.
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I guess conditioning.
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Would you rather know exactly what your coaches are thinking about you or exactly what your teammates are thinking about you?
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Ooh.
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Okay.
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Would you rather be the MVP on your team or the most improved?
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Most improved.
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Would you rather have your story told in a movie or in a book?
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A book.
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Would you rather eat pizza or chicken wings?
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Pizza.
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Would you rather be a Division I college assistant coach or Division III head coach?
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Division III head coach.
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Would you rather go back to college and play soccer or play basketball?
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Basketball.
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:13.679
Okay.
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:18.239
So some of your answers are unique, of course, like I would expect.
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What is and I can we talk a little bit about you traveling to Nepal and India?
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Tell me a little bit about that.
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I had the most incredible podcast guest of all time who grew up in Nepal and ended up going to the British Army, where both of his legs were blown off.
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And then he climbed every high peak in the world with no legs.
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:44.159
Yeah.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yeah.
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His name is Hari Magar Buddha.
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And he, you have to listen to him.
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--> 00:37:52.239
He is so incredible.
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He's the most grateful, beautiful, amazing human being I've ever spoken to in my life.
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He's really the only person I've ever really had an in-depth conversation from Nepal.
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His level of gratitude and joy for life is unmatched.
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Tell me about the people that I know.
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Me too.
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And by the way, after I was done with my podcast, I just sat in my office for like an hour and said, do not forget what this man has told you because he is so wise.
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Tell me about your experience.
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Oh my gosh.
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Well, I think it stems from being a student athlete and knowing that I had eight semesters of college and I wanted to travel and I wanted an experience of studying abroad.
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:49.679
So I made the decision to take one season off of rowing in order to go to Nepal in India for a semester.
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And I think this was a life-changing experience in so many ways.
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And I'm still processing it since I went, I guess, from January till May, I was in Nepal in India.
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And I feel like I learned so much about myself through learning about another culture.
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Because there are things in that third world country where you just don't like you have to seek drinking water.
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You have to buy drinking water and you have to take a cold shower for five months.
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And that's something that you really take for granted living in the US.
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Like there's no one of the biggest things I noticed is there was no like regulation traffic-wise.
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Like there aren't stop signs, there aren't stop lights.
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Like you kind of are just walking on the side of the road and hoping no one hits you and hoping that everything's okay.
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And I feel like to have that experience as a 20-year-old woman was remarkable.
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Yeah.
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:46.639
I mean, were you scared?
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I was not scared at all.
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I don't know why.
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I think I was just so excited for like for a change, for a mix-up.
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.800
Okay, how looking back, I'm like, how was I not scared traveling across the world?
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:04.000
Yeah, and also just not knowing what you're doing and everything.
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:04.880
You're just winging it.
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:06.239
But how was the food?
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:07.599
I really liked it.
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I really did.
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It was like, well, Indian food I love.
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.519
It was very much like rice and curry, soup.
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:20.960
And then in Nepal, the one thing I struggled with food-wise is there's this dish.
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:22.960
I bet Hari knows this.
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.519
There's this dish called Dalbot.
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And it's something you have for dinner and lunch every day.
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And sometimes breakfast.
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:42.400
So make maybe three meals every day of this doll bot, which is like lentil soup and rice and pickled vegetables.
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:48.480
So after a while, I was a little I was a little done with the doll bot, but I enjoyed the food.
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:49.119
Okay.
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.480
And you connected with people, obviously.
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.360
What did you find about the Nepalese people?
00:40:55.679 --> 00:41:03.280
So I was living with a Tibetan homestead family, and that was crazy because they did not speak any English.
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:11.280
So I learned a bit of Tibetan before going and then was taking intensive classes there so that I could actually communicate with them.
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:13.519
And that was a very humbling experience.
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.800
But I think the people are so, so welcoming.
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And on the weekends, I was volunteering with a nonprofit organization that supports girls' education in Nepal.
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:40.719
And that was also like such a feeling of, I mean, growing up with sisters, like such a feeling of girlhood and just like girl supporting girls and trying to literally better the world and they're trying to better their education system.
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:45.840
But I think Nepali people are so welcoming and so loving.
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:49.039
Everyone was so like I stick out like a sore thumb as a blonde white girl.
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.280
Like everyone was like, what are you doing here?
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:57.280
And that was amazing because since I am extrovert, I was able to connect with so many people.
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:01.599
So and I'm guessing that so many of your luxuries were taken away.
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:04.159
Things like drinking water and warm showers.
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:05.840
And how did you deal with that?
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.039
How did you deal with the discomfort of so many things?
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:11.679
There were definitely times where I wanted a hot shower.
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:16.880
But I was kind of like, like, I really leaned into it.
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:23.840
I was like, okay, if I don't wash my hair for 12 days while I'm going to Ever Space Camp, like this is okay because my hair will grow.
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:28.559
Like I literally just tried to find the silver lining and any kind of inconvenience.
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.599
Is anyone
listening to this surprise to hear that?
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:32.639
No, we are not.
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:37.679
Finding the silver lining has to be the name of your book someday.
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:39.199
Oh my gosh.
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:39.840
Okay.
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:41.760
What is the dream for you now?
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:43.679
What is the dream for me now?
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:50.320
I want to, after college, move to Norway.
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:56.559
And I want to find and build community and purpose there.
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:00.880
I feel so grateful for being an American-Norwegian dual citizen.
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:03.360
So I want to start a life there.
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:08.960
I mean, obviously you're a dual citizen, but what makes you want to leave here and go there?
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:12.320
I think a lot of it is just curiosity.
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:22.400
Like I want to see if I would be able to build a community and build friendships in a very introverted country.
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.519
Norway is like people are just culturally introverted.
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:32.800
And I want to see if I can form those bonds and connections despite not being from Norway.
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:34.800
And also just beautiful.
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:42.400
Like that's really I and also I have such an appreciation for the language, even though I'm a dual citizen.
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:46.480
Like I had never really spoken the language growing up, unfortunately.
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.679
But I had internships there the past two summers.
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.119
So I had been really working to try to learn the language.
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:56.719
So you were literally lived there over you lived there for a whole summer.
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:57.280
Yes.
00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:59.840
I was doing internship and an art gallery.
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:02.159
But it was very English speaking.
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:04.960
And I really I want to push myself to become fluent.
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.920
And every day I like this is another part of my self-care.
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.360
Like every day I write in my notebook.
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:17.360
I'm writing all the words from the dictionary that I don't know and just writing them down in one little Coley dictionary.
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:20.159
All right.
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:25.920
So what are the goals for you for the remainder of your athletic career?
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:30.320
And will it be hard to say goodbye to college sports for you?
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:31.440
Of course.
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:32.960
Of course it'll be hard.
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:36.079
Really, I genuinely feel it'll be hard.
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:43.119
In terms of goals, I think I feel fulfilled if I give everything I have.
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:49.199
And by everything I mean showing up physically and showing up mentally ready every day.
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:59.119
So there's no like accolade that I feel like would make me feel satisfied, but I feel like putting in the work and knowing that I put in the work would make me feel satisfied.
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:09.039
Like, of course, we're having a great season so far, and it'd be wonderful to go to the Elite Eight Final Four championship game for volleyball this fall.
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:15.519
But I mean, as long as we do everything we can to get there, I feel like that's the goal.
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:16.159
Okay.
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:17.199
I believe you.
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:27.760
And I'm amazed by you, as I'm sure my listeners know, like you are preaching the words of, you know, really, really strong mental fitness.
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:32.079
You are curious and you're adventurous and you're positive.
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:36.000
And I can't imagine that the world is not your oyster.
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:36.719
Believe me.
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:38.559
I mean upward and onward.
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:42.480
So how can my listeners find you if they want to follow you?
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:46.480
And what's the best way to follow you in your adventures?
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:47.760
Oh, of course.
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:55.599
So on Instagram and on TikTok, my username is Coley C O L E Y, C C A S S I D Y.
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:57.679
And actually C Cassidy.
00:45:57.840 --> 00:45:58.000
Okay.
00:45:58.159 --> 00:45:58.800
Yes, yes.
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:01.760
And on TikTok, I'm talking about student athlete.
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:05.440
I'm trying to leverage my NIL abilities.
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:10.159
So I'm trying to partner with and become brand ambassadors.
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.199
Because it's amazing how many companies want to help student app.
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:15.119
So that's something that I'm working towards.
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:22.480
Because last year, one of my sister's friends who graduated from Trinity said that that was her biggest regret not utilizing NIL.
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.320
So going into my junior year, I was like, okay, I need to get on this.
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:28.639
And that's how you connected with LASES?
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:30.960
That's how I connected with LACE.
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:34.079
And I think that their initiative is fabulous.
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:41.440
They're really trying to work for student athletes, people in my position, but they also do such a good job of building community.
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:46.000
Like I've met people through the LACES platform, which I feel like is so beautiful.
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:49.519
And how would somebody check out LACE too?
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:50.559
How did you do it?
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:56.480
So I found LACE through TikTok and Instagram.
00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:02.400
And then they have a great app platform with a bunch of helpful resources for student athletes.
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:03.519
They walk you through it all.
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:04.800
Literally, they walk you through it all.
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:10.320
And you have to get on this if you're a student athlete because it's if you're listening, get on this because it is amazing what they're doing.
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:10.800
So yeah.
00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:11.679
Amazing.
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:13.199
How do you find laces?
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.800
I found it came across like through social media or something.
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:18.639
And I started to investigate it.
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:23.039
And then I met Jeff and he told me about what he was doing for student athletes.
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:30.800
So if you are a student athlete listening to this, go to, I think it it I'll put it on the description of this podcast.
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.320
And I'll also put it on when I you know promote it through Instagram.
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.639
I'll put on where they can find laces.
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:40.719
I think it's get laces, but you can you can type that in and find it.
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:42.480
So thank you again, Coley.
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:43.599
It's so nice to meet you.
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:46.719
I appreciate your insights and all of your beautiful energy.
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:47.280
I really do.
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:49.679
Oh my gosh, Linda, such a privilege to meet.
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:51.920
Thank you so much for taking the time.
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:53.599
Of course.
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.519
Thanks again for listening to the Game Changers Podcast.
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:14.400
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