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Welcome to All Up in Your Business Podcast with me as your host, Kaylee Vane, where I help tell the stories of all these really cool entrepreneurs in the Raleigh of surrounding areas.
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And today I am super excited because I know nothing about her.
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I literally met her at a networking event and I was like, I like your vibes.
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And I immediately was like, you're coming on my podcast.
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So hey girl, hey.
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Hey girl, hey.
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Same.
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I was like, shout out to Michelle Johnson, next level of marketing, because I was like, who's this?
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What?
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I want to meet her.
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It worked out perfect.
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Right.
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I know.
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I walked in.
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I was like, wait, you didn't tell me you had this person.
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Like, what?
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And you have showed orgy coming off you.
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Well, I was like, I want to know Kaylee.
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Right.
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And I love, love Michelle.
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She's great.
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Before we dive too much into meeting and all that stuff, what's your name and what's your business and podcast that you do?
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Oh, yeah.
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And I guess we don't want to get thing game.
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So I'm Cassandra Pickett.
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Uh my podcast is called Girl You Good.
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And I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist and a mental health coach for women.
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I do one-to-one coaching and an awesome group coaching called It's the Girl You Good pod groups.
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So we got the podcast and then the little pod.
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So that's what I'm doing out here.
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Oh, I love it.
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I remember like, so yeah, our friend Michelle.
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Um, so she does marketing.
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Her and I do very, very similar things.
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And I absolutely love her because she covers like the Durham area and I cover kind of like down here.
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And oh my gosh, she is just, I just love her.
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She's great.
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And um, yeah, I've been mean because I have my own event.
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I have my event called Meet and Mingle Networking.
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So she comes to those and she's like, you have to come to mine.
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And I was like, I've been meaning to.
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I just I had a full-time job.
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I no longer I mean, I do, but now it's just my job.
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My business.
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And so uh I finally got to go and I was so excited because when I went, I got to meet Cassandra and I was like, You were so cool.
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I was like so mad that you were in a different table.
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I was like, I just want to talk to you.
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I thought that too.
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I thought that too.
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So when we connected, I was like, oh thank goodness she didn't leave before I could catch her.
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And I know second, everything you said about Michelle, I feel like she just has the best energy and she does like cool stuff.
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Like she's cool.
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She has cool stuff, she is very cool.
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So she's got the purple hair.
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Like, I love her.
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She's amazing.
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Yeah, yeah.
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She's gonna hear this and be like, what?
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I know it's tell me like, was this my podcast episode?
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You guys are just loving on me.
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So hey Michelle, if you're listening, when you are listening, right?
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Oh, that's so funny.
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Yeah, because that day I had to run to a podcast recording and I was like, I can't stay and talk to anyone.
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That's usually I'm usually like back-to-back meetings or just things because when I'm out and about, I try to schedule everything kind of back to back so that way get it all done in one.
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Uh-huh.
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I literally love it.
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Yeah.
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So let's talk about your so okay, what came first?
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The podcast or the business?
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The business.
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And then the podcast, and then another piece of the business.
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So, okay, fun fact.
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I'm an Enneagram three.
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So I love like doing, doing, doing, doing, doing.
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And I really love okay, twin.
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I also like love variety.
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So I'm a therapist, and then I started the coaching business.
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I also started a permanent jewelry business.
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Then I was like, I should have a podcast, and I could do this.
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Yeah, so I have all these ideas, but because
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I'm an Enneagram three, I actually do them.
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So it's a kind of a problem.
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It's cool and fun, but also a problem.
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So yeah, it's just kind of like a chain of events.
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They've all line together.
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Some of them make many others, some of them don't, you know.
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Yeah, I resonate with that so much because same, I I have my business, Honey Gin, and then I have the podcast, and then I have the events, and I'm actually growing the events a little bit more, so I'm not just doing the networking events anymore.
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I'm gonna be, by the time this is aired, it will already be out there.
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But I'm doing a big event on November 2nd.
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I'm so excited.
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Um, so it is it's basically a kickoff.
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So it's Honey Gin's four-year anniversary, but it's also the kickoff for doing live podcasting events, and I'm so excited.
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So, do you know what Figment Farms is out in Apex?
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It's so cute.
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That's where it's at.
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Oh my gosh, it's so cute.
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It's so cute, it's so cute.
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Especially that time of year.
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Figment Farms is bomb with the trees and all the vibes, fall vibes.
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Oh yeah.
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Yep.
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So get this.
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So we get there, it's uh cocktails, mocktails, light apps, and then I'll be doing live podcasts of with um Sarah Abernathy with Why Hill Kitchen.
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Ooh.
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So I'll be interviewing her and all of her business endeavors because she does a lot.
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And then after that, it goes to the dinner in the pines experience, catered by Sasspool.
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And then after that, there's a whole mingling experience where there's gonna be by the fire pit, there'll be a s'mores, there'll be a tarot reader, live guitarist, triangle 360 with the photo or triangle twirl with the 360 camera.
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Stephanie to a triangle twirl.
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Isn't she great?
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She's just good people.
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Yeah, what's happening here?
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Okay.
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I know.
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I I there's a mo there's a reason why we had a meet.
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Okay.
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I'm not gonna lie to you.
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You said November 2nd, and I in my heart was like, oh, probably not, because my birthday's on the third.
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And I'm like, I don't know who I'm gonna want to be that time, you know, like who knows where I'll wanna be, but you said tarot and fire pit and spores, and I was like, maybe I do want to go, even though that's around my baby too.
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So kudos to you to have something sound good enough to have me want to go around my birthday.
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Yay! So, anyways, I want to get into events like that.
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Um congrats, I love that.
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Thanks, but this isn't about me, this is about you.
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So let's take it back.
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So the business started first.
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When did you know what you wanted to do, wanted to go in this field?
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Take us back to like early.
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Okay, so I originally wanted to be a dancer.
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I went to college, I double majored in dance and psychology, and so they called me the psychotic dancer all over the campus because I would run from the dance side of the campus and then I would run across to the psychology side and I'd go back and forth all day.
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And so they were all like, There's the psychotic dancer.
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Uh, and I I was like, What am I gonna do?
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What am I gonna do?
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So I did I was think, you know, I did dance, I taught dance, but then I went and got my master's for marriage and family therapy.
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So I'm really into systems.
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I love one-on-one work, but you work really hard independently and then you go back into a system that's not working for you.
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It doesn't really have strong efficacy.
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So when I'm um in the therapy room, I'm always like, whoever shows up, shows up.
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Bring your mom, bring your dad, bring your friend, bring your sister, bring your kids.
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It's my favorite way to do therapy.
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And my favorite clients happen to be women that were in over-functioning, high-achieving, ambitious spaces, and they needed to learn to set boundaries and hand problems back to other people and their high-functioning codependency.
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And they actually benefited more from coaching than therapy.
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So that's how the coaching business was born.
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And I always say to myself, like, girl, are you good?
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Like then the podcast was born.
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And it's just kind of been, it's been fun.
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It's cool when people say, Who do you work with?
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I always kind of feel like myself, like
middle-aged women that are like kicking ass in life, but also like drowning.
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You're like, how am I feeling so successful and doing so good, but also feel like I'm like breathing through a straw underwater?
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Like, how can both be true, right?
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So those are my favorite people to work with, women that are just doing life like me, trying to figure it out.
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Yeah, I mean, you also have kids, and I mean, you got all that going.
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I talk to my cousin all the time about this because she has two kids and a husband.
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I have me, myself, and my dog.
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Which can be but actually probably equally busy depending on what's going on with your dog on a certain date.
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Yeah, and so since um this year has been kind of like a come to Jesus mode for us because we're like, you know what?
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We don't want to like go back to how our family was, who have like very unresolved things and they never like talk to each other about issues they've had.
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They just like let it sit there and fester, and we're like, we like, you know, like you always look at your parents, you're like, I don't want that.
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Right.
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But I can learn from that and change it.
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So her and I have been trying really hard to be more talking to each other about like that made me not feel so great.
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So okay, you and your cousin are doing that.
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Yeah, we're like sisters, yeah.
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Okay, I have a cousin and we do the same thing.
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We're like, okay, here's like gonna go well in the generation before us.
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It's like they balls you a baton.
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You're like, y'all did your best and we love you.
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And now it's like our turn.
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Pass the baton, like, what's what is our what are we gonna fix this time?
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And we do that together too.
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So that just made me feel so happy for you and your cousin to have each other.
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Right, I know, and I just I love I love our relationship.
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And like, you know, we've had like some big conversations, like, like, okay, like how can I be there more now that we don't live near each other?
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Like that kind of sucks, is what now that we're farther.
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I mean, she's only in Holly Springs, like, but for me, that's like 30 minutes, and like 30 minutes is the other side of the world.
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Right?
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We used to be five minutes.
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No, we we used to be five minutes from each other, and now we're 30 minutes.
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I'm like, oh my god.
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Well, that's because 30 minutes is an hour, listen travel, and then you have to, it's not, it's not easy, it's hard.
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It is hard, and so we've been trying to like navigate this whole like okay, we don't live so close.
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I can't we can't just hop over to each other's place anymore.
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And so it's just like, okay, like how can I be there more for you and the kids?
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And how can am I even being there enough?
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And I just feel bad, and just so it's like we kind of go through these like ebbs and flows, and so we've had conversations about how it's like about how you know having kids versus not having kid life.
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And so we've had those conversations too, like man, and so we've I've it's made me open my eyes and like man, like people who have kids, like that's I can't I couldn't imagine adding a child to my life right now.
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Like I would crumble and fall, maybe never come out of that hole.
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So I we are, yeah.
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Sometimes you have kids, sometimes you have to friends with kids, you gotta visit them in the hole sometimes.
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But we make sure they come out of their hole.
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Go get them out.
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Well, shout out to the cousin to Shelby.
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I'm like, this is just literally like how we are mixing and mingling.
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I'm like, you're gonna have to work to tag 30 people when you hear this episode.
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Yeah.
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Oh, 100%.
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Like everyone's gonna be tagged.
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Perfect.
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Yeah, in between that and then just like learning how to function between and then also my other friend, she just had a baby.
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And so it's like seeing another like new newborn life.
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I was like, oh man, like this is it's just like hard.
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I try really hard to put myself in other people's shoes to like understand and it.
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I'm just like, I don't know how you do it.
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I'm already struggling with just you're clearly such a good friend because you're literally having empathy and trying to like perspective take and be like, if I were you, even though I'm not, how can I serve you instead of just being like they're busy with their kids, they don't have time for me, right?
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Like you're clearly a good friend.
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So this is a win for me because I'm like, I just picked up a good friend.
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I mean, don't get me wrong, at when at first, when all this started happening, I'm like, um, but like I don't want my friend anymore.
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It's hard.
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Okay, you can lift but something a little bit in some series, even though it's normal, it's hard.
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Yeah.
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Oh, totally.
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And I just remember like, and from again, my cousins taught me everything about like a motherhood, right?
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And just like learning from her like postpartum and like all that stuff, and especially right now, just I think postpartum's like such a big thing, right?
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Um I so I've tried really hard to be there for my friend because she's still like in the postpartum, she just had her baby in January, so it's like oh brand new.
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She's still a brand new mom, and she's just like, This is crazy.
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Literally, it's like it, but you're doing great, he's still alive, yeah, right?
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You're doing great.
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He made it.
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I'm like, once you hit like six months old, I'm not saying it's always easier, I'm just saying that's usually when like me and my husband looked at each other and we're like, I don't think we'll die.
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Yeah.
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They start to have like a bigger personality, they're moving, they're like eating real food, and it's like, okay.
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Yeah, not just always keeping something alive.
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There's a joy in there mixed in more, you know.
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I keep me, my dog, my plants alive.
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That's that's my big tells me like your she might be because she's like, Your plants are your babies, and I'm like, they are they're thriving right now all over my living earth.
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I I have dead plants right now.
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So but you got two kids.
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We can't do it all.
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We gotta pick and choose.
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Choose which ones, yeah.
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So then, so going back, all right, so you did the dancing, you did the therapies.
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What made you want to do like the family?
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Because you do family therapy and marriage therapy, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
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So that was what means.
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But I love the system.
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I love anytime there's more than one person in the room.
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Because when I'm like one-on-one with someone, we do work, I love it.
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But it's always kind of like if this person were here, what would they say?
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And I'm like, invite them in.
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Let's find out, let's know, let's get some data.
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Like, what is this experience like for them, you know?
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Um, and not every therapist is comfortable with that, but because of my my licensure and my schooling, I'm like, that's my most comfortable place.
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The more, the merrier.
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Like, I love it.
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I'll be like, let's see who comes today.
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Love family therapy.
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Oh, that's so fun.
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That's so fun.
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And then I I mean, you probably get this all the time.
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Like the the name of your podcast, Girl, you good?
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Like, are you actually like I'm obsessed?
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I'm obsessed.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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And so then tell us a little bit about that podcast.
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Like, kind of like who do you talk to?
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What do you guys talk about?
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All that kind of stuff.
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So I actually it's like short, I don't know how you'd say it in the podcast lingual, but it's like short form podcasting.
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So they're all under 10 minutes and they're just me.
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They're just me.
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So I love that.
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I've had one guest, Roxanne, love her, Roxanne um angstramhan photography.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yep.
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Um she's amazing, love her.
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And she volunteered as tribute to do like um a first-time guest.
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So I'm like, maybe I'll do like a guest per season, or but they're short form, like listen to them on the way to work or on the way to whatever you're doing.
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And they're meant to be little reminders of things you already know how to do, but could use some encouragement on, or just just I don't know, uh, a truth that you can grab and be like, well, damn, I guess I'm gonna do that today.
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And and they're really targeted towards, like I said, like myself, like high functioning, overachieving, um codependent, low boundary, like people pleasing, all the stuff that gets in the way.
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So I have all those things.
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Right?
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And okay, I'm starting.
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I yes
you do.
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I'm like, they're short.
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You can listen to freaking five of them by the time you've driven there and home from your cousin's house.
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Um, that's true.
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Cool.
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Okay.
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I'm writing this down right now, and they'll follow you right after this.
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My biggest like podcast flex, if that's what you want to call it, is I was told there's so there's a lady I met, she lives in another state, and she told a friend of hers to listen to the podcast, and it's a man whose wife has passed away, and he has like a tween or teen daughter, and they've been having a hard time managing the grief and loss and what their relationship looks like now without a mom, like at a tender age.
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And they started listening to Grow You Good in the car, and they said it gives them like something to look forward to and like a topic to talk about.
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I cried, I cried.
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Oh but did you cry?
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I was freaking cried salty tears out my eyes and was like, put a fork in me.
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I'm done.
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I'm done.
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If I never I'm complete my mission, I've never been happier.
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So it's targeted women, but people will live.
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I mean, people will live, people will um watch with their kids.
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I know Roxanne listens with her daughter sometimes, so in um it's kind I don't know, it's a pretty chill vibe, I guess.
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Oh, oh my god, that's so sweet.
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Oh, I love that.
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I know.
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I love that so much.
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Just made me cry.
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And then my mom passed away in February, and I did a podcast about her that was gonna be like the season opener for season three, because I was like, I don't know, you know, that's a big change to have gone through between a season and I'm a different person.
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And so I I wanted to share that with the listeners, you know, like, hey, this happened.
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But I ended up putting it out right after I recorded it because it was cathartic and it just felt like it needed to get put out there.
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And I thought of that family because I was like, my mom died too.
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Like, I don't know.
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I hope you feel seen and loved, you know.
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So that fit goal for me.
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It's like healing for me, like finding out that I don't know.
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I thought maybe five people would listen if I was I was like, if I can serve one person, I've made it.
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And so just finding out that it's been meaningful to people is like uh it's my favorite thing.
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Isn't it like a cup filler?
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Yeah, 1000% overflow, yeah, which is great.
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Yes, I'm like, this is such a blessing, and I'm like, sorry, sorry, world, that I'm just like yakking into the ether, but it's fulfilling for me.
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Yeah, oh my gosh, I love that.
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And then what's the other one?
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Because you said there's something else.
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Girl, are you good?
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Oh, the group coaching.
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So after, yeah.
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So I have group coaching pods of like depend maybe like six to eight or nine women, and we meet twice a month and we do group coaching together and build a support community.
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And I have two pods right now going.
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I hope to keep building more and more and more.
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I'm obsessed with it.
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We have so much fun and it's such a good energy.
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It's my favorite.
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Love that.
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My favorite.
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And where are you located for your um therapy services?
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So, therapy I do in Holly Springs at Denome Alliances, which is Sarah Madres's company.
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I don't know if you know Sarah Madras.
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Um, she's awesome.
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We do a lot of work together.
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She's actually the co-facilitor for the capacity treat retreat.
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So when this airs, the capacity treat will have already retreat will have already happened.
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But um yeah, so she has a practice in Holly Springs called Denome, and I practice there.
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But I'm only doing one day a week there.
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Everything else is coaching, so the therapy roster is full.
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But I have co coaching open knife, yeah.
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Very cool.
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Um I love that you're kind of like a little bit of everything.
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Hi, girl, I love variety.
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Yeah, I love it so much.
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And what's the name of uh your therapy that you do?
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Um, or is it just a crowned picket?
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It's denome alliances.
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And then for coaching, my business is Cassandra Pickett Coaching.
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So
CassandraPickett.com and Cassandra Pickett coaching on socials, I'm all over.
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You can find me.
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I love that.
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So, how'd you come up with the name, Girl You Good?
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I say it to myself all the time.
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Like, I'll just be doing stuff I'm like, girl, like if I took a wrong turn, like I I'm bad geographically, like I'm no good.
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It's no good.
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And even like with the GPS on, I can mess it up.
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And so, like, I think this specific day, I like took a wrong turn.
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And I was thinking about I was out on a drive thinking, like, do I want to do a podcast?
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And I did the wrong turn and I was like, girl, are you good?
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And I was like, would that make sense?
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Would anybody get it?
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And I talked to Heather Eck, an incredible artist.
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She has A Fantasia, so she sees color aura around you, and she'll oh, that's it's freaking cool.
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And she does like healing work through that.
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So check out Heather Eck.
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Gotta tag her too.
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We gotta put her on our tag list.
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So she had started, she started a podcast, and I messaged her and was like, Is this make sense?
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Should I do a podcast?
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And she was like, Yeah, go do it.
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So I was like, Okay.
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And she told me, like, she's like, here's a mic to use, here's the platform I use, here's what you need, go for it.
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And so I did.
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Oh, I love that.
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Oh, that's so cool.
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Love it.
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I just love the like give and take of women in business, how somebody fulfilling their purpose in life inspires women to do the same thing.
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And I don't know, it's just uh I'm obsessed with that.
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I just think we're the best women.
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Oh, we're great, we're amazing.
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Yes, we're so good.
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Yeah, I was just on a panel yesterday.
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I was like an all-women's panel.
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Oh my god, so much fun.
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So I was on the obviously, I was on the marketing panel, and um, and so when my panel came up, uh my good friend Erica Rooney's next to me, Roxanne was next to us, and then I think her name is Christine with Pin Up Pinup Studios.
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Um, super cool.
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We had a really cool fun panel.
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And like all the other ones were really good.
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They're like a little bit more like on serious topics, and then we get to ours, and I'm like, yeah, you know.
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Like fuck this, fuck that.
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Just like it was so like we were laughing so much.
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Oh my god.
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And I told people, I'm like, stop, stop being so serious.
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Like, you gotta have fun with it.
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Like, if you want people to yeah, you gotta be relatable, have fun.
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Like, oh yeah, we had so much fun.
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So, like Roxanne, like we're all just like laughing.
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Girl, if Roxanne's there, capital F fun, it will be fun.
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Yeah, right.
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Right.
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And also, yeah, she did Erica's brand shoe.
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So I was there for the whole thing.
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It was so like we had a blast.
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It was a crazy busy day, but it was really fun.
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Hub spilling.
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There's some fun.
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Yes.
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Oh, yeah.
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I I'm all about it.
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It was a good time.
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That's awesome.
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So back to you though.
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So where uh something happened where something probably like really hard happened, like what was like a lesson that you took away from a hard lesson?
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That can't girl.
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This year, this year has been a tough year for me.
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So yeah, my mom passed away in February, and I was there for it and saw some things that you don't want to see.
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And that was tricky.
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And then somehow our family just kept taking hits.
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Like, I'm not sure what the lineup was.
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I it I don't understand the bingo card, but I just felt like, okay, this is hard and bad, but I could handle this.
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And then something else would happen.
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And I was like, okay, I guess I'm gonna handle that.
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And all the while building the capacity retreat with Sarah.
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So I'm like, how do I build my capacity to hold all of this hurt and not let it sweep me under the sweep me under?
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Right.
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Because that's the last thing I want to do.
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But I also don't want to avoid it.
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So just navigating that and balancing it and the fact that we'd been building this capacity retreat and did so much education and work in regulating the nervous system saved me because I was able to take all the stuff I'd been learning with polyvagal systems theory and capacity and your nervous system, and literally in real time, in the worst seasons of my life, practiced it and felt it work and was like, okay, this is gonna all come together.
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There's a purpose for this, there's a reason for this.
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And I don't know, it was just a cool experience, I guess.
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I'm not saying it's cool that my mom died, like, could have lived without that.
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Yeah.
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Like, damn.
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And now she's not even here to like tell me good job, so rude.
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Um, but just whatever that like real-time meshing of like building something for women that I know they need, but then living it myself and seeing it bless my life, and the mental gymnastics of all that have been really, really hard, but good.
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Yeah.
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Really good.
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I like to think that we can do hard things.
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And I have to remind myself that so many times a day.
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I'm just like, this is, I don't know if I can I don't know.
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This is tough.
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And I'm like, we can do hard things.
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We can do hard things, right?
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Um, my here's my my hack that works for me sometimes, most of the time.
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So anybody take it if you like it.
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I try to do things for future me.
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So I really don't want to do anything for myself, especially this year, right now.
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So just everything I do, I'm like, it's for her.
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Even if it's like loading the friggin' dishwasher, I'm like, yeah, future me is a badass queen.
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And she deserves she doesn't want to do this.
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Like, she's not gonna want to get her hands in this mess.
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Like, she shouldn't have to.
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You know what?
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I'm gonna do this for her.
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Or even like I don't know, having clean clothes.
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Like, what do I care?
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I'm struggling, right?
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I'm I'm going through it, but I'm like, damn, she's gonna want to shower and have clean panties when she comes out of this mess.
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Like, she deserves it.
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I'm gonna do this for her.
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:11.599
So that's my that's my favorite hack right now is just be codependent with your future self.
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Mm-hmm.
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And it kind of starts to benefit all the versions of you, right?
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Like it starts to move together.
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So Yeah.
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I find if my place is dirty, not dirty, messy.
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Oh my god.
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I know it's gotten messy because like mentally I am I'm very self-diagnosed, ADHD, all the things, right?
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But I have classic, like I am all over the place, and like I can just see my place looking like how the inside of my head looks, and I'm like, girl, get it together.
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Like it's it drowned you.
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It does, yeah.
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And I I noticed it because like laundry is the bane of my existence.
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I hate doing laundry.
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There's nothing I hate more than freaking laundry.
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What?
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Oh my god, like I can get it into the washer.
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Past that, I don't I don't care.
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Oh, I don't care.
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:08.559
My gosh, I have we bought one of the washers that wash and dries it.
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So I have one machine.
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That's a thing.
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Yes, hold up, one machine.
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It's snoo.
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I've never heard of that.
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I think people in Europe do it, but I got it at like cockto, like it's a real thing.
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You put your clothes in the wash, you turn it on, and it washes it and it dries it, and there's a keep fresh button.
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So then when I so I put it in, and then when I go back, it's dry.
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Because going from the wet to the dry is not possible for me.
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It's like not a thing.
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I'll rewash them six times.
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Like I just can't pull it off.
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Yeah.
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So I'm an idiot.
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I just Google this.
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They've been around for 73.
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Well, not in our house.
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I I'm just like a year in, so whatever.
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Never heard of this.
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Shout out to George T.
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:58.559
Sampson who patented the clothes dryer that uses a rack over a stove.
00:27:59.359 --> 00:27:59.599
What?
00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:05.839
It's a freaking game changer for me because nothing's got that beer moldy in-between phase.
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:09.200
Like, I can't I yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.119
So put that on your bucket list.
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:12.400
Alright, bucket list.
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:14.160
Have a washer that dries your clothes also.
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:17.200
Oh my gosh, my mind is blown right now.
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:18.160
Like, holy crap.
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:29.200
And I still suck at laundry and I still get backlogged and I still have clothes in baskets, but they're not like there's not that moldy in between touching wet clothes, feeling like you don't want to be doing anything.
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:31.440
You eliminate that, it's a little better.
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:35.920
So if you like what's the word for it?
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:39.440
What texture, if you were to touch it, grosses you out the most?
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:42.640
Um, I hate raw chicken.
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:48.160
I find it disgusting.
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:49.759
Disgusting.
00:28:50.000 --> 00:29:07.519
In fact, like like last week or so, I don't know, recently, like if you go onto my social media, like, I don't know, three reels ago probably, I was like cooking dinner and I was like, I'm gonna throw my phone up and I'll catch a little b-roll of me making dinner, a little wholesome video.
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:12.240
It's chicken, and I uh literally disgusted the entire time.
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:14.000
I went back and watched it and was dying.
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:15.920
I was like, what the hell is this?
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:17.440
So I posted it anyway.
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:18.240
Stop pictures.
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.319
I think I saw a video of you, and you're like, yeah, that's me with a chicken.
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:23.599
That is me with chicken.
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:25.039
It is disgusting.
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:26.240
That is so funny.
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:31.759
I was like, oh, I don't like to like go to bed with wet hair, have wet hair on my neck.
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:32.880
I don't care for that either.
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:33.839
That's a no for me.
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:36.480
No, and I I got so much of it.
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.440
Um, oh my god, nothing grosses me out like in the shower.
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:44.079
I am like, because it falls out, so I take it, you know, plop it on the shower, and I'm like, I don't want to touch you now.
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:45.440
And so it stays there.
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.559
It's like when my mom or my cousin or some counselor, like, oh my god, Kaylee.
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.240
I'm like, I do take it off.
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.559
Like after it's dried, I will then pull it off.
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:58.000
But like, oh hair that's not attached to a head is really tricky for me.
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:00.480
It's shouldn't I know
it's irrational?
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.039
I'm like, it's not, it's fine.
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.839
Like, like if you asked me to touch your hair right now, I'd be like, sure, I'd play with your hair, to good.
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:13.759
But if you oh they if you like pulled some out and handed it to me, I'd be like, it's so dumb.
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.799
No, it's not no, it's so true.
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:17.839
So that is a good point.
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:24.000
So when it is loose hair, oh absolutely not like sweaty hair, oh my god, it makes me want to gag.
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:24.559
I can't do it.
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.559
But yeah, loose, wet hair.
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:27.839
Any any just loose hair.
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:33.279
And if it's like at a pool or something, I'm like, I I I literally have to like take deep breaths.
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:34.960
It's and it's not rational.
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:38.720
I'm like, girl, like it's totally rational.
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:42.960
Come on, you'd be a but I like so bad.
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:45.839
So sometimes you're like pulling out of the drain.
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:48.400
Absolutely not.
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:50.799
That's a hard no for me.
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:54.079
So let's get to it.
00:30:54.559 --> 00:31:00.640
No, no, no, no, I chicken, clean my drain.
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:01.440
I don't know.
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.319
Save me, save me from all the icky things.
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.559
Oh my god, it's so funny.
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:11.599
So okay, rolling a bag just a little.
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:16.240
I love all tangents.
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:26.319
Um so if you were to talk to someone who's thinking about starting a business, what is a piece of advice you'd give them about said business?
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:26.960
Okay.
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:35.200
This is advice I heard my husband give someone, and I was like, that's the smartest thing ever, and it matched something in my brain.
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:40.240
So there's something about like the two-year mark where things start clicking.
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:48.079
And so anytime I'm talking to a business owner and they're like a month in, six months in, eight months in, they're like, I shouldn't be doing this, this isn't gonna work.
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:51.359
And I'm like, until it's two years, grind away.
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:52.480
Like just keep going.
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:53.440
Something happened.
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:57.119
I don't understand the magic of two years, but it happened to me.
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:06.880
It happens to everyone I know where it's like you think the first two months are gonna feel like it clicks, or the first year even, but something happens at two years where it does.
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.200
But so that's what I always think, right?
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:10.319
Like, hang in there.
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.720
But my husband said this, let's see if I can get it right.
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.000
He was talking to the like Fukui Launch Group.
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:18.160
I don't know, and do you know the launch program?
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:18.799
I love launch.
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:20.079
I did the launch holiday sprinkle.
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:21.119
Love it, love it, love it.
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:26.799
Um, and he was like, if you were going to get your bachelor's degree, you'd give it four years.
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:35.359
You'd invest a lot of money, and you wouldn't be shitty to yourself every six months that you weren't graduated, right?
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:39.680
You'd be like, I'm investing in something that's gonna take time and money.
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:49.920
And he was like, if you can reframe your mindset to accept that in those first startup years of a business, you'll be more successful and you'll have less internal drama.
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:51.359
And I was like, that is so true.
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:57.440
I did so much school and I never once was like, you're such a damn bitch because you don't have your degree yet.
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.359
Like, I'm like, I'll get it in six months when it's available to me.
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:03.359
Like, what are we doing?
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:04.559
I love that.
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:06.880
Right, that's I ever heard that.
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.960
That's so I know.
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:11.920
Yeah, I like what's right.
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.240
Wow, that is I love that nugget.
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:17.039
That's a great one.
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:18.480
Sprinkled nugget.
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:23.839
Oh right, I love Hello, write that one down for later.
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:24.720
That'd be a good one.
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:25.440
Oh my gosh.
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:27.039
No, I say that to myself too.
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:32.319
And I'm like, I'm like, I'm barely graduating from my starting my business bachelor's degree.
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:39.279
Like, it's not quite four years, and you're about to do four years with your big party, like that's your graduate, you're just starting.
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:40.000
Yeah.
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:47.440
Even though you're not, I know you're very successful, but like just imagine what you're about to compound into now that it's been four years.
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:54.400
Yeah, and like so, so going on, like get kind of like giving yourself grace on something, like so.
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.279
It took me the longest time to get this podcast going.
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:02.000
I want to do this for like two years, and I'm like, it's not the right time, it's not the right time, not the right this, not the right that.
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.920
And I'm like, oh my god, like I'm gonna go insane because I'm never gonna start this damn thing.
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:06.319
Right.
00:34:06.559 -->
00:34:11.920
So it all came down to I'm like, I need a name that will like stick in people's mind.
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.400
And I was so stuck on this name.
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:25.679
And long story short, people have heard already, but like I was at brunch with a friend from my hometown, like she was my best friend growing up, like crunchy granola vibes, like we did Irish dancing together, so much fun.
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:32.800
And her little sister, so much fun, and her little sister was like my little sister, she's very just matter-of-fact, like, yeah, duh.
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:36.000
And um, so we're all talking, and I was they're asking me what's going on.
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:42.480
I told them the idea for the podcast last year, and her little sister was like, Oh, all up in your business, duh.
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:44.880
And I was like, Oh my god, that's it.
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:45.519
That's it.
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.920
Cause I'm literally just talking to people about their business.
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:49.199
It's a great name.
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:50.400
I remembered it too.
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.960
I never remember people, the name of people's podcasts.
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:58.079
And I heard yours and I was like, Oh my gosh, it's so fun and it makes sense.
00:34:58.159 --> 00:34:59.760
I know what your podcast is about.
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.559
You don't even have to, but it's cute and playful.
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:04.320
Like, yeah, good job.
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:05.119
Thank you.
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:05.599
Thank you.
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:11.599
And so, like, as soon as like I had that like oh moment, I was just like, oh my god.
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:12.480
And I ran.
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:13.599
I was like, all right, that's it.
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.000
And then I just took the hit the ground running.
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.159
Made me wish I kind of started sooner, but I I would have had the name I had.
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:25.760
But all that to say, like, I want this to turn into something more for business owners that I talk to.
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.400
And so I'm trying really, really hard to be like, okay, like we are not quitting this.
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:32.320
Like, you're not quitting this, don't quit.
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.039
As Banksy says, we rest and not quit.
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:36.000
Or learn to rest.
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:37.519
Yeah, and this is good.
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.000
You have there you don't need to live out of this.
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:43.440
This is I know I'm like just learning about you and this, but I'm like, it's good.
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:45.039
You're in a good spot.
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:49.599
It is, and I I talk to so many different people, and I'm like, this is just all cool.
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:53.440
I mean, and Raleigh and the surrounding areas are just there's so much.
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:53.920
Oh, yeah.
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:54.800
There's so much.
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.199
And I'm like, I can find someone new all the time.
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:03.119
So it's just like not giving up during that beginning phase of things.
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.880
Cause like technically the podcast is not, it's I don't make money off it.
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.280
I don't like care to it, I do it for fun.
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.000
If eventually turns into that, hell yeah, that'd be awesome.
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.440
But like, that's not the first, like, I just like to tell people stories.
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:16.960
Like, that's fun for me.
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:21.760
Um, but it's just like not stopping it though, because everyone's like, oh, you could do so much more with us.
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:23.119
And I'm like, eh, we'll see.
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:29.519
So that's why like doing this big event though, that would be like live pod, because I don't no one else is really doing that.
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.440
I think it's it's kind of cool.
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:32.159
I don't know.
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.760
No, it is, and everybody knows it, and if they don't, they're wrong.
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:42.639
But also the way you're doing it, like I don't know, like with that soul and the tarot and the s'mores.
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:43.440
I don't know.
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:48.480
Like you have a good bar, yeah, and you're sharing it with the world while you do it, that's attractive.
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:50.400
Okay, question for you.
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:52.320
You said you're an Enneagram three.
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.480
Are you like familiar with the Enneagram?
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:59.920
It's been a hot minute since I've done them, but from what I remember, I think I'm a three and a nine.
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:01.840
It's either nine or seven, but I think it's nine.
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:09.119
Okay, because I was gonna ask you if you had a type, like an Enneagram number that like a lot of people are that you like.
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:21.199
Like if a bunch of your friends are a certain Enneagram number or probably like three or four years since I've done the Enneagram test, and I was like really into it.
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:25.440
Uh I should probably do that with my friends though, because it's usually you need to know.
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:32.159
I think I can't remember if it's like three, two, seven, nine are all like different play I ask.
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:32.480
I don't know.
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:37.840
Because I keep meeting people that are sevens and I love them.
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:39.119
I love a seven.
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:44.400
And a lot of sevens think I'm a seven and I'm not, I'm a total three, right?
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:51.039
And sevens the enthusiasts, they're the positive, optimistic, outgoing, just like party life at the party.
00:37:51.280
--> 00:37:54.079
But you kind of feel fun like a seven.
00:37:54.239 --> 00:38:01.519
And I was like, but I have this theory that like threes and sevens get along really well and are like attracted to each other.
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.840
So I just looked it up because it gives like a quick like what I am a seven, not a nine.
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:10.800
Okay, are you I you are a seven?
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:11.920
Are you a three?
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:12.480
Yes.
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:13.920
You're a seven?
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:14.559
Yes.
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.199
Yeah, three and seven with a nine.
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:19.199
Because I am common kind.
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:27.280
I can tend to avoid I used, I think I used to be a nine, because now like but avoids, like I don't really avoid things anymore.
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:28.400
I kind of just go for it.
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:30.559
So I'm definitely more the seven and three.
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:33.280
Okay, we're gonna mess with this and find your default number.
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:34.400
Obviously, not right now.
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:43.440
I'm like, we're gonna get in there because everyone everyone's all the numbers, but you'll have a number that is yours, and then like a wing.
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:50.320
But I was like, you're giving your event is like a seven, five, and three and seven how there's an energy with us.
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.159
So that makes sense.
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:53.119
I love it.
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:54.239
It does.
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:55.360
I love that kind of stuff.
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:56.719
I'm like, give it to me all day.
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:57.920
Enneagram's great.
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.079
I use it at work, I even use it in therapy.
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:01.280
It's really, really good.
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:04.719
Um, like it's very good for partners, it's great for teams.
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:06.320
I do Enneagram team trainings.
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:14.639
Like, I'll go in to an org and like do the Enneagram with the team so they learn how to communicate with each other and not like piss each other off so much.
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:15.360
It's so good.
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:16.400
That is so smart.
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:17.119
It's so good.
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:18.480
I love a lot of love it.
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:29.840
I've I mean, I've been by myself for four years, but I did take a year off where I went to two semi-corporty kind of places, and I'm like, this is not for me.
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.719
In the first place, it was an all-women's team.
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.320
And for being an all-women's team, there was no drama, which I was shocked.
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:38.880
I was like, this is this is pretty great.
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:39.840
This is great.
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:46.480
Um, and then the next one, it was totally because the day I got to the first place, I was just like welcome with open arms.
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:50.880
Got to the second place, it was not that way in the slightest.
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.559
It was the most opposite of that.
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:53.840
Like, no one wanted us there.
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.719
It was me and two others that started that day, and they did not want us there.
00:39:56.800 --> 00:40:05.679
And I was like, Oh, this is on the word, like this, not fun, but like having people like to come in, I think more places should do that.
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:16.960
Like having like whether it's a disc or the Enneagram or whatever it may be, like having people go in to like teach people like this is how you communicate with your teams and where you don't know how to do it yourself.
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:17.760
Right.
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:27.760
Well, and it's also so good with like um if you have to give someone feedback or receive feedback, knowing the ways that will trigger them and the ways that it won't, it's just so good.
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:28.719
I love it.
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:30.719
No, and that's such a great thing.
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:38.159
So, like the last team I was just on, each of us on the team, I was the only female on the team, but each of us received things differently.
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:43.039
And um, as soon as he started with me, but then he turned into my boss.
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:48.960
But the way him and I worked, we were so polar opposites, but like we understood each other.
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:56.159
Like, cool, if he was having his pissy pants day, and I like I just knew I'm like, okay, he is not happy today.
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.079
So this is what we do to make him happy.
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:01.440
So that but that was you a little overfunctioning there.
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.360
Okay, I see you, Kaylee.
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:05.599
But then it'd be opposite.
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:13.760
Like if I was having like a bad day or not a great day, like he would know how to work with me, and so he would do things like and we just worked, it was like yin and yang, like so.
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.079
It was a great working relationship, and I was like so sad when I had to leave.
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.320
I was like, but like we work so well.
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.159
Yeah, you're like, you want to come with me?
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.239
Yeah, right, you come with me.
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:43.760
But yeah, finding like finding people that you could work with and like understanding how they receive things, because like with him, I told him too, and I'm like, look, like you just need to explain, like you could say I did something wrong, but I'm gonna ask you every question of why and how I did that wrong, because I guarantee you I did not.
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:44.079
Right.
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.639
And so you need to prove to me how that I did it wrong.
00:41:46.800 -->
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So, because I will gladly be like, you know what, you read, I did, I did mess that up.
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Uh don't you?
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I always have a note saved in my phone.
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Anytime someone does me dirty, and I'm like, remember this for later because my ADHD will forget.
00:41:59.519 --> 00:41:59.760
Uh-huh.
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Oh, yeah.
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.320
People who like want receipts, they're keeping them.
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:09.679
So if somebody's asking you for receipts all the time, just know they have they have a grimoire of receipts.
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Right?
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I'm like, just give me one business day and I'll come back to you.
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:19.039
I am the opposite, which I'm not saying is good or bad, but I'm so the opposite.
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.239
I'm like, it's baptized away, it never happened.
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If you ask for a receipt, I'm like, I don't know, you're back on sick ice with me.
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Like, I don't know.
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Like, if you're like, I'm a Scorpio, so if we're on thin ice, I'm watching you.
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I'm squinting.
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You're on audio.
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But once it's over, it's over.
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I'm like, we're good.
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We're good.
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:40.639
That's very scorpio.
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Yeah.
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I'm Gemini, but I'm May Gemini.
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Nice.
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Oh, yeah.
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No Tore.
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:47.679
Alright.
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Yeah.
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:53.840
So like the May Geminis are supposed to supposedly the more normal chaotic one.
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And then the Junes are just like the crazy chaotic.
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Nice.
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I'm like, but I'm on the cusp because I'm like right at the end of May, so I could be either one, but I'm a twin.
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:05.599
So okay, well, thank you so much.
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:07.119
This has been such a fun conversation.
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I cannot wait to be friends with you now.
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.039
But tell us where can people find you?
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:15.599
Either physically, on the interwebs, the Facebook, all the things.
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:16.480
All the things.
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:26.000
If you're wanting to work with me, go to CassandraPickett.com and you can message me, join the pod group, work one-on-one, anything you want to do.
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.199
Girl, you good is anywhere you listen to podcasts.
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:31.199
I would love for you to go listen.
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:33.360
And then socials Cassandra Pickett.
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.519
Cassandra Pickett Coaching, come follow me.
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.360
My Instagram's super fun.
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:41.280
Um, I'm not on TikTok, and I'm really not on LinkedIn.
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:44.559
So Instagram people come come join my world.
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.079
And her stuff's really fun.
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So go go watch it, go follow.
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:55.280
Also, go save girl you good on all of your listening platforms because I'm about to go do the same thing.
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:56.079
Yep.
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And if you go to my Instagram, you can see me um touching the texture of Raw Chicken Live.
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:02.559
Oh, there you go.
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.920
I promise you, you wanted to see because it is so funny.
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:07.760
Oh my god, I died laughing.
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It was so good.
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I'm like, there's so many.
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I'm like, we need a support group, people who hate raw chicken.
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.360
I see people like on TikTok and they like will start washing their chicken.
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.239
I was like, okay, like that that freaks me out.
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I don't think it's supposed to want there's people who are like, I won't eat at other people's houses because I don't know if they wash their chicken.
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Sh the whole world.
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It's the whole world.
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We know too much.
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:30.400
We know too much about other people, but whatever, I'm part of it.
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Whatever.
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Fine.
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Doggy dog world.
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The chick chicken chicken world.
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Does anybody need to know what I look like when I touch chicken?
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No.
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But whatever.
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Here we are.
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We do.
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It's lyrics.
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We do, actually.
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Actually, we do.
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And I'm happy with this is great.
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I'm so glad you had me.
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:51.280
And uh it's awesome meeting you.
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:52.400
This has been awesome.
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:57.199
Hello to all your listeners, and I can't wait to tag all the people we talked about.
00:44:58.000 --> 00:44:58.639
I know, right?
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.440
I have to like have a running list of like, okay, Michelle.
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:03.679
So, so okay, cool.
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:05.920
Well, thank you everybody.
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Go follow, subscribe, all the things you do.
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:09.679
What else?
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Oh, if you want to leave me a review, that's cool.
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Would love a review.
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By the time this is out, everything that I we talked about with my event, everything, it should be out.
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I mean, it should be.
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It will be out.
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If there's tickets available still, I'm not sure, but do all the things and we'll catch you on the flip side.
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Yes, have so much fun at my birthday party on November 2nd.
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All right, thank you everyone.