Transkrip lengkap untuk Ep. 162 — The Expanse Method: It Can Be a Playground Too (ft. Jenny Sherman)

that guide my sacred practice, but I'm uh deeply devoted to the mystery and sacred practice. 00:02:53.629 --> 00:03:03.469 So I practice tarot and astrology, and I actually do do astrology readings as well as working in my more professional uh video editing work. 00:03:03.950 --> 00:03:07.150 So yeah, and I've had lots of sessions with Daniel. 00:03:07.230 --> 00:03:10.030 I think we've known each other five years now. 00:03:11.629 --> 00:03:18.670 I've had a few past life regressions, and have recently done the expanse method as well. 00:03:19.150 --> 00:03:19.629 Yay. 00:03:19.789 --> 00:03:19.950 Yeah. 00:03:20.189 --> 00:03:21.710 I'm excited to talk about that. 00:03:21.950 --> 00:03:23.789 Well, before we go that wait, hold on. 00:03:23.870 --> 00:03:26.110 I don't think my tone matched my my excitement. 00:03:26.270 --> 00:03:28.830 I'm really excited to talk about that in a minute. 00:03:30.670 --> 00:03:36.510 So before we yay, yay! Before we jump into that, what is a creative mystic? 00:03:37.789 --> 00:03:44.189 That's my way of putting a lot of things that I do all together within two words. 00:03:44.430 --> 00:03:50.189 So I grew up being an artist, mostly illustration, uh loving animated films. 00:03:50.270 --> 00:03:55.550 And I went to school, I got my master's degree in animation for film and TV. 00:03:55.710 --> 00:03:58.590 So this creative thread runs through everything I do. 00:03:58.750 --> 00:04:13.870 I no longer do illustration or animation in the traditional sense, but my work is still very creative doing sort of multimedia work, video editing, image creation, social media content in that way. 00:04:14.110 --> 00:04:16.349 It is still very creative. 00:04:16.430 --> 00:04:23.389 And I imagine there will be another chapter of my life where I am a hands-on artist again, doing illustration or painting. 00:04:23.550 --> 00:04:32.829 I don't know what it's going to take to get to that next chapter, maybe not working 40 hours a week for other people creating things for them would open up the space to do it. 00:04:33.069 --> 00:04:35.069 So, in that sense, I'm the creative. 00:04:35.230 --> 00:04:50.349 And the mystic side is that throughout my life I've had a number of mystical experiences and curiosities that being a mystic to me opens me up to the world of mysticism in all forms. 00:04:50.509 --> 00:05:02.189 I've learned a lot about various religions around the world and mystical practices and wisdom teachings from different lineages and I guess tribes you could call them around the world. 00:05:02.429 --> 00:05:04.829 But I don't necessarily subscribe to just one. 00:05:04.989 --> 00:05:11.149 So I wouldn't put a label on myself for which kind of spirituality I practice, I would say. 00:05:11.469 --> 00:05:34.669 And as a mystic, people do come to me for, I don't know if spiritual counseling is the right word, but I seem to be the person people come to first when they want to talk about someone they've lost or someone's passed away, or they're having a big change in their life and want guidance on how to have a perspective on this next chapter. 00:05:34.909 --> 00:05:41.949 And there's not really a scientific way of proving that that's useful, I guess, but it's one of those humanities things. 00:05:42.029 --> 00:05:45.069 And I think mystic kind of sums that up pretty well. 00:05:45.389 --> 00:05:47.069 What is a mystic to you? 00:05:47.389 --> 00:05:56.109 A mystic to me is both a practitioner and student of it depends which terminology you use. 00:05:56.189 --> 00:06:06.589 Some people say the occult, some say any form of oracular arts, uh intuitive practices. 00:06:07.069 --> 00:06:11.069 There's so many broad names depending on what tradition you're talking about. 00:06:11.229 --> 00:06:20.589 So I think mystic for me is the sort of non-denominational way of talking about all those forms of magical arts. 00:06:21.709 --> 00:06:27.629 When you say creative mystic, how does that set you aside from, let's just say, a creative person? 00:06:29.870 --> 00:06:37.149 Um because it describes both my artistic side and the side of me that works in the spiritual field. 00:06:37.629 --> 00:06:40.269 Do you think the difference is just awareness at that point then? 00:06:40.589 --> 00:06:42.189 It's just a descriptor. 00:06:42.989 --> 00:06:43.310 Okay. 00:06:44.589 --> 00:06:53.310 Well, I think it's cool because I can really get on board with that uh label or that terminology to describe what you do. 00:06:53.389 --> 00:06:54.509 I think that that's really cool. 00:06:54.669 --> 00:07:05.310 So I do wonder for creative people in general, yeah, if there is some kind of mystical process that they're embarking on or partaking in that they're just not even aware of at the time. 00:07:05.629 --> 00:07:13.069 So much, I mean, I think every piece of art I've ever made is connected to some something bigger than me, for sure. 00:07:13.229 --> 00:07:20.669 Most of my artwork that I've done is it I call it a prayer because it feels like you're in prayer when you're creating it. 00:07:20.829 --> 00:07:32.109 Uh and it's very different when you're doing like corporate work, like when you're creating stuff for like a corporate environment is different than like when you're creating art for yourself based on your own like inspiration. 00:07:32.349 --> 00:07:46.269 But even when I was doing corporate illustration and artwork, there was a sense of like spirit or energy coming through me in order to like imbue the characters or you know, the the feeling of the art. 00:07:46.509 --> 00:07:50.029 Even in the digital photo, what do you call it? 00:07:50.109 --> 00:08:01.389 It's not I'm not a designer, but I do a lot of design media for social media and even like picking the right videos or the right images, there's a sensing in there. 00:08:01.549 --> 00:08:04.029 Um, it's an art, as you would say. 00:08:04.189 --> 00:08:08.750 And I think an art is very, very aligned with spirit.

00:08:08.989 --> 00:08:13.149 Again, the terminology is varied and open for that. 00:08:13.310 --> 00:08:16.429 But yes, would every artist call themselves spiritual? 00:08:16.589 --> 00:08:17.229 Probably not. 00:08:17.469 --> 00:08:24.029 But yes, I think very much for me, spirit flows through me through art and creativity. 00:08:24.909 --> 00:08:31.389 Because when I also hear you say that, it just reminds me of people who say, Oh, spirit spoke to me. 00:08:31.629 --> 00:08:32.909 That's where this came from. 00:08:33.070 --> 00:08:35.149 Like spirit was channeling through me. 00:08:35.230 --> 00:08:38.269 I I just heard you describe it a different way without saying that. 00:08:38.669 --> 00:08:40.429 I just think it's hard to find words. 00:08:40.509 --> 00:08:42.429 We don't have the language really for it. 00:08:42.750 --> 00:08:43.870 Yeah, which is okay. 00:08:44.029 --> 00:08:51.950 I mean, for me, I think it happens with, I don't know, maybe not as much when I'm doing storytelling written, if I'm writing a script or something like that. 00:08:52.029 --> 00:08:58.269 But there have been times when I've been writing a song and there's a line that will come to me, and I'm just like, that's brilliant. 00:08:58.509 --> 00:09:01.310 Yeah, it did not come from me. 00:09:01.870 --> 00:09:07.389 Then again, I wonder if that's me just not owning that I can have creative genius at moments. 00:09:07.470 --> 00:09:10.189 And of course, why wouldn't it be coming from me? 00:09:10.429 --> 00:09:11.789 Or maybe it doesn't come from me. 00:09:11.949 --> 00:09:14.829 Nonetheless, maybe it's just me trying to humble myself, or maybe not. 00:09:14.909 --> 00:09:16.350 Maybe I am truly humbled. 00:09:16.590 --> 00:09:18.029 I think I'm kind of like you. 00:09:18.189 --> 00:09:20.110 We're not dogmatic about these things. 00:09:20.350 --> 00:09:20.909 Could be. 00:09:21.230 --> 00:09:29.949 Well, so many of my favorite teachings, especially from Eastern philosophers, are all the questions that come back to who can say? 00:09:30.189 --> 00:09:31.069 Who can know? 00:09:31.549 --> 00:09:40.750 You know, the whole practice of Buddhists' monks is to ask questions, and it's the questioning in and of itself that is the sacred practice. 00:09:41.069 --> 00:09:47.709 So my philosophy aligns with the there is no answer, who can say? 00:09:48.829 --> 00:09:49.789 That's why I like you. 00:09:49.870 --> 00:09:50.990 I mean, among other reasons. 00:09:51.709 --> 00:10:00.590 We're kind of on the same page as that we don't have we don't have a stake in making a claim about a singular truth. 00:10:01.709 --> 00:10:03.149 Just experience. 00:10:03.389 --> 00:10:03.870 Right. 00:10:04.590 --> 00:10:04.990 Yeah. 00:10:05.230 --> 00:10:09.230 Does it make me a boring podcaster to to sit on the fence a lot of times? 00:10:09.549 --> 00:10:09.870 No. 00:10:10.189 --> 00:10:11.069 Well, I think it does. 00:10:11.309 --> 00:10:15.149 No, I love it because it always leaves the door open for exploration. 00:10:15.470 --> 00:10:15.949 Thank you. 00:10:16.189 --> 00:10:16.990 That's how I feel. 00:10:17.149 --> 00:10:18.909 Yeah, because it's like, what else? 00:10:19.230 --> 00:10:21.230 Yeah, I still think it's boring though, nonetheless. 00:10:21.470 --> 00:10:22.429 But I appreciate that. 00:10:22.669 --> 00:10:27.230 But boring and integrity don't always line up. 00:10:27.389 --> 00:10:29.389 Or maybe it's not even a matter of integrity. 00:10:29.470 --> 00:10:30.990 I'm I'm in my 40s now. 00:10:31.149 --> 00:10:32.750 I should be beyond this. 00:10:33.230 --> 00:10:39.069 You your your devil's advocate has evolved a little bit, I would say, over the last five years. 00:10:39.470 --> 00:10:46.669 But you are you are um uh Venus and Gemini, so there'll always be an enjoyment and controversy wherever you can get it. 00:10:48.829 --> 00:10:50.990 Yeah, well, that's a different story. 00:10:51.309 --> 00:10:51.549 Yeah. 00:10:52.110 --> 00:10:52.350 For sure. 00:10:52.590 --> 00:10:56.509 It's a different story considering the kind of guests that I'm seeking out now for timeless spirituality. 00:10:56.669 --> 00:11:06.750 So, with that said, anyone, if you're listening and you know anyone who thinks that past life regression is demonic and would like to come on the show and speak to me about that, that's a conversation I'd love to have. 00:11:07.069 --> 00:11:11.870 I'd prefer for it to be a conversation, but if someone wants to debate, I'll do it. 00:11:12.429 --> 00:11:18.669 And if they don't feel comfortable with the host being the one that's debating them, I'll bring in a third party to moderate the debate. 00:11:18.750 --> 00:11:20.590 But I'd rather have a conversation nonetheless. 00:11:20.829 --> 00:11:26.829 I'm looking for guests like that now because yeah, maybe my Venus and Gemini is kind of excited by that now. 00:11:27.870 --> 00:11:30.990 I like let's bring on someone who thinks I'm working with the devil. 00:11:31.230 --> 00:11:38.350 Yeah, I always think it's great to question those things because, like I said, the sacred comes through questions. 00:11:38.509 --> 00:11:41.309 The sacred comes through through doubt. 00:11:41.470 --> 00:11:45.389 Uh, I think doubt is one of the most powerful forms of sacred practice. 00:11:45.629 --> 00:11:48.029 So I'm I look forward to this debate. 00:11:48.189 --> 00:11:51.309 I hope someone does get brave enough to come on. 00:11:54.750 --> 00:11:57.230 They wouldn't against little old me. 00:11:57.870 --> 00:12:02.429 Uh if they truly think I'm working with the devil or in tandem with the devil. 00:12:02.590 --> 00:12:07.709 Nonetheless, just my final thought on the mystical component, even what you're saying right now. 00:12:07.789 --> 00:12:23.389 I I'm pretty sure I've brought this up on the podcast before that my astrology teacher, Jim Cher, who I have had on before, when I started with him, there was a second class that he had concurrently, and he pitched it as

the gateway to mysticism. 00:12:23.629 --> 00:12:24.990 And I'm like, Yeah. 00:12:25.309 --> 00:12:28.350 Well, 30 old me was like, Yeah, that's what I want to do. 00:12:28.429 --> 00:12:30.429 I want to, I want to learn magic. 00:12:30.669 --> 00:12:34.750 But then he kept referring to the classes contemplation and inquiry. 00:12:38.110 --> 00:12:41.389 Like, no, I just want the key to the portal to the universe. 00:12:41.629 --> 00:12:43.069 Just give me the magic. 00:12:43.309 --> 00:12:48.189 Just show me how to walk on water, you know, or turn water into wine. 00:12:48.590 --> 00:12:53.069 That wasn't what I thought the class would be, but nonetheless, I agree with what you're saying. 00:12:53.149 --> 00:12:55.389 I think that's where the magic really comes from. 00:12:56.509 --> 00:12:57.309 Questions. 00:12:58.110 --> 00:12:59.549 I think that's what you're saying a lot, right? 00:12:59.709 --> 00:13:00.990 Or am I just extrapolating? 00:13:01.230 --> 00:13:05.870 Yeah, I mean, that's what aligns all of this with like, you know, a scientific practice. 00:13:06.029 --> 00:13:24.269 Everything starts with a hypothesis or a question, and then there's experimentation, and then there's re-experimentation, and it can't the answers come about in a different way than in the scientific process, but all creativity comes from that question, from that gap place first. 00:13:24.909 --> 00:13:26.269 That is the question. 00:13:26.590 --> 00:13:27.470 Indeed. 00:13:28.269 --> 00:13:35.389 So, with that, when it comes to, let's just say, past lives specifically and reincarnation, what do you believe? 00:13:35.789 --> 00:13:38.350 Oh, I'm so glad that you asked this question. 00:13:39.309 --> 00:13:43.069 Um I think it's a helpful concept. 00:13:43.389 --> 00:13:51.069 Whether or not I believe it that it is empirically or concretely true, I don't know. 00:13:51.709 --> 00:14:07.949 But if the concept of past lives or the discussion of them is helpful to a process or an evolution or making sense of something, then I think it's valid. 00:14:08.350 --> 00:14:10.750 For any of these things, do you believe in God? 00:14:10.909 --> 00:14:12.029 Do you believe in past lives? 00:14:12.189 --> 00:14:14.189 Do you believe in magic? 00:14:14.429 --> 00:14:19.470 You have to have a definitive definition of what any of those things is in the first place. 00:14:19.870 --> 00:14:23.709 And I'm not sure we totally know. 00:14:23.949 --> 00:14:29.549 Because because we are we love to talk about the nature of time and how time exists. 00:14:30.029 --> 00:14:38.350 If we don't totally understand the nature of time, how can we understand if past lives are a thing or if that's relevant? 00:14:38.669 --> 00:15:01.230 I use the term past lives when I do my astrology readings because I particularly came to astrology um through the nodes of the moon, which is part of the ecliptic axis, which is very much tied in many lineages of astrology to the idea of past lives or future lives

or multiple iterations of evolution of the soul. 00:15:01.870 --> 00:15:09.549 So I use the term past lives, but I don't require anyone to believe in that literal concept. 00:15:09.789 --> 00:15:13.629 Um and I personally don't know. 00:15:13.949 --> 00:15:42.350 I feel like I definitely have experienced echoes of time or remembered experiences, but whether those are through my DNA or through a mystical experience or through some other wave of light that is traveling through time and space, I have no idea. 00:15:42.590 --> 00:15:43.870 I have no idea. 00:15:44.110 --> 00:15:52.029 I have no idea if my soul travels through different physical bodies or not. 00:15:52.350 --> 00:15:53.470 No clip. 00:15:53.789 --> 00:15:54.909 Do I believe it? 00:15:55.149 --> 00:16:05.149 I'm totally open to the possibility, and I enjoy the concept of past lives as a useful question or experimentation. 00:16:06.350 --> 00:16:30.750 So when you say that you don't know if it's that your soul jumping from body to body or if it's something that's more related to DNA, do you mean that let's just say if you're doing a regression and you're having an experience and you're you're seeing yourself in a different body, that is what you're saying that you're not sure if that's actually part of your genetic lineage? 00:16:31.230 --> 00:16:33.629 Is that what you're referring to in that respect? 00:16:34.029 --> 00:16:36.269 Not not so directly. 00:16:37.149 --> 00:16:44.829 I'm thinking more of this rather than the exact thing that I see in the regression, like the feelings that I have or the story that I have. 00:16:44.990 --> 00:16:49.389 Does that come through a DNA uh lineage experience? 00:16:49.949 --> 00:16:53.389 Or um, yeah, I don't know. 00:16:53.549 --> 00:16:54.909 I don't have an answer. 00:16:56.509 --> 00:17:04.430 You know, it's interesting you bring that up because I if if I remember correctly, I think you found me through Colin Beddell initially, right? 00:17:04.750 --> 00:17:05.150 That's right. 00:17:06.350 --> 00:17:15.309 And you know, I tend to ruminate on things I've said in the past quite often, you know, thinking, oh man, that was stupid, or I could have said that differently. 00:17:15.549 --> 00:17:26.430 And I remember in that particular interview, someone had written a question about I don't remember exactly what it was, but it had to do with ancestral healing and past life regression. 00:17:26.590 --> 00:17:35.150 And I remember being a I don't want to say I was dismissive of it at the time, but it was more like, oh no, they're completely separate. 00:17:35.470 --> 00:17:48.350 I think that's like the way that I I viewed it back then because I I do think for the gray area that I allowed even five years ago, I was still thinking in more of a black and white. 00:17:48.990 --> 00:17:51.630 This is this, this is that, they're different. 00:17:52.190 --> 00:17:57.870 And not really taking into account and that it's please correct me if I'm wrong here. 00:17:57.950 --> 00:18:03.230 Are you also maybe suggesting that it's archetypal that we're picking up on? 00:18:03.550 --> 00:18:20.509 Or that that memory of an archetype is there and what's yes being disright being displayed during a regression is something that's more archetypal, and it's just it's a story that's playing out in a creative way, you know, something that's showing you instead of just telling you. 00:18:20.750 --> 00:18:21.710 Yeah, like a dream. 00:18:21.790 --> 00:18:24.670 Because I've been doing dream work since I was 12. 00:18:25.310 --> 00:18:32.830 And being in a regression is very much like it feels like being in a dream to some extent. 00:18:32.990 --> 00:18:35.550 I mean, some of it is more visceral, definitely. 00:18:35.630 --> 00:18:37.390 It's like a very, very vivid dream. 00:18:37.550 --> 00:18:42.269 Not quite lucid dreaming, I don't think, but like it's in that same way. 00:18:42.350 --> 00:18:46.990 And you know, when I see someone in a dream, I know that it's not that person. 00:18:47.150 --> 00:18:54.190 It's my understanding of who that person is or that impact that they're having on my soul's journey. 00:18:54.350 --> 00:18:55.550 It's not actually that person. 00:18:55.630 --> 00:19:04.750 So if I am like seeing my crush in my dream and he loves me, that doesn't mean that that person actually like loves me. 00:19:04.990 --> 00:19:14.990 It just means that I'm projecting or experiencing or playing with some kind of story in my head about someone that I understand and something about how they impact me. 00:19:15.310 --> 00:19:19.230 And I do wonder if that's the same in past life regression. 00:19:19.470 --> 00:19:27.470 And one other point I'll make about ancestral is when I say ancestral, I don't just mean our singular family lineage. 00:19:27.630 --> 00:19:49.790 I mean ancestral to the point where we're all stardust, like beyond human, beyond, you know, the lineage is beyond human, beyond everything that we've come from, where like I think some some teachings say like the sun or the stars are are our original ancestors. 00:19:49.870 --> 00:19:57.790 So I mean like way, way, way deep, deep wisdom, not just pains from our great-grandparents or things like that. 00:19:58.110 --> 00:20:07.470 And in that sense, how I understand the workings of the universe of what I do understand, and how everything is connected. 00:20:07.710 --> 00:20:22.910 And when we talk about time-space reality, it being sort of a web or a net, if when I'm in a past life regression, I'm receiving something from that net, which I could also call ancestral, that I'm experiencing through that. 00:20:23.070 --> 00:20:24.430 Does that make sense? 00:20:24.750 --> 00:20:35.950 I mean, it makes sense to me, but I I think this is also where we run into a problem a lot or a while a lot of the time, is because when someone says something, one word can mean something completely different. 00:20:36.350 --> 00:20:37.470 Absolutely, exactly.

00:20:38.190 --> 00:20:42.350 Which I'm obviously, we have a dictionary, you know. 00:20:43.150 --> 00:20:50.910 We have a dictionary, but we also have so many different practices and so many different lineages and so many different ways. 00:20:51.390 --> 00:21:03.550 You know, one thing I want to say is like, I know you don't like to use the word hip hypnotherapy or hypnosis with your work, even if it's something that some people could relate it to. 00:21:03.790 --> 00:21:07.710 And also in the shamanic world, it's called journeying. 00:21:07.950 --> 00:21:11.630 So it just depends whose dictionary you're using, right? 00:21:13.150 --> 00:21:18.750 Well, like even with that one, I mean, I yes, it is hypnosis. 00:21:19.310 --> 00:21:24.030 By the definition that we would find in a dictionary, it would be hypnosis. 00:21:24.590 --> 00:21:26.430 I think it's also more of a journey. 00:21:26.590 --> 00:21:34.269 Now, the hypnotherapy component, I'm reluctant to call it that, especially what I do, because I'm not a hypnotherapist. 00:21:34.509 --> 00:21:34.830 Right. 00:21:35.390 --> 00:21:40.750 Because I think that hypnotherapy is something that a hypnotherapist practice or practices. 00:21:41.070 --> 00:21:41.390 Yeah. 00:21:42.030 --> 00:21:49.710 But that's also, look, where I also run into the issue with past life regressionists who call themselves therapists or past life therapists. 00:21:50.830 --> 00:21:52.269 Are they kind of? 00:21:53.070 --> 00:21:53.710 Yeah. 00:21:54.350 --> 00:22:02.750 But I also feel that a person who has done the schooling to become a therapist, they deserve that title. 00:22:02.990 --> 00:22:04.990 And was the work we're doing similar in that respect? 00:22:05.150 --> 00:22:05.710 Maybe. 00:22:06.269 --> 00:22:12.590 But I didn't go to school to become a therapist, so I just feel that it's wrong for me to call myself a past life therapist. 00:22:12.990 --> 00:22:14.430 Got a nice ring to it. 00:22:14.750 --> 00:22:20.350 But maybe that's just where I'm too hung up and I gotta get off my high horse and be like, whatever. 00:22:20.590 --> 00:22:25.070 Don't get so hung up on past life regressionists, call themselves past life therapists. 00:22:25.390 --> 00:22:26.190 You know, let them. 00:22:26.430 --> 00:22:29.790 Well, it depends on uh the law as well. 00:22:29.950 --> 00:22:31.230 Like well, there's that too. 00:22:31.710 --> 00:22:36.350 If like there's a law around who can call themselves therapists, you need to abide by the law. 00:22:37.790 --> 00:22:46.190 Everyone check your local laws if you can call yourself a therapist if you're a past life regressionist and not a therapist. 00:22:46.430 --> 00:22:49.390 But if your local jurisdiction allows that, exactly. 00:22:49.950 --> 00:22:50.750 Have at it. 00:22:50.990 --> 00:22:51.310 Yes. 00:22:51.710 --> 00:22:52.509 You heard it here. 00:22:52.990 --> 00:22:54.830 Just double check. 00:22:55.310 --> 00:22:57.070 Again, terminology is interesting. 00:22:57.230

--> 00:22:59.630 And I hear what you're saying. 00:22:59.950 --> 00:23:02.509 And I think it it does line up. 00:23:03.150 --> 00:23:08.590 Where does that leave you when it comes to what you've experienced in past life regressions? 00:23:09.390 --> 00:23:11.710 And I'll leave that a little broad for you right now. 00:23:12.830 --> 00:23:14.190 Where does that leave me? 00:23:14.590 --> 00:23:23.630 I'm someone who can watch a movie and gain a life lesson from it. 00:23:23.950 --> 00:23:30.509 I can have a dream at night and have an evolution of my thought process or my soul journey. 00:23:32.269 --> 00:23:39.790 So having these processes inside my own head, like it's the same thing for me. 00:23:39.950 --> 00:23:44.590 I get to decide kind of how much weight it carries. 00:23:44.830 --> 00:24:01.630 Um, and that will depend on how close how close the issue is to me and how much it's impacting my life at the moment, and how relevant the next steps I can take can be. 00:24:01.790 --> 00:24:12.430 Because if you see something in your in your past life regression that you have no relation to or no like orientation around, there's not much you can do about it. 00:24:12.590 --> 00:24:19.310 But it tends to be that the past life regressions that I've had, everything has been deeply personal and deeply relevant to the moment. 00:24:19.390 --> 00:24:22.670 So I think that's kind of how the process is meant to go. 00:24:22.990 --> 00:24:24.670 So what does that mean for me? 00:24:24.830 --> 00:24:28.190 I am, I think it's my Aquarius rising. 00:24:28.509 --> 00:24:45.870 Shout out to the Aquarius Risings out there, where I'm actually not um interested or fixated on any title or level of importance or hierarchy in how I'm perceived or received. 00:24:46.030 --> 00:24:51.550 Like, I don't need to be the queen of Sheba in a past life to feel like I'm important in this life. 00:24:51.710 --> 00:24:56.830 Like the importance of, and this is how I am with any spiritual practice. 00:24:57.070 --> 00:25:02.750 Daniel, you and I have loved talking about the concept of aliens or conspiracy theories before. 00:25:02.990 --> 00:25:05.070 And my answer is, so what? 00:25:05.150 --> 00:25:05.630 Who cares? 00:25:05.710 --> 00:25:07.230 What does it mean for me? 00:25:08.509 --> 00:25:10.590 Like, sure, if there's aliens, great. 00:25:10.670 --> 00:25:12.190 If there's fairies, that's wonderful. 00:25:12.350 --> 00:25:23.390 But all I really care about is what does it mean for me and what does it mean for the progress of humanity and how we take care of each other and how we move forward in our in our culture and in our systems. 00:25:23.550 --> 00:25:25.470 That's that's what matters to me. 00:25:25.790 --> 00:25:37.230 And because I'm a magical practitioner, it's enough for me to believe fairies exist just for the awe and the whimsy of it, because it makes me happy. 00:25:39.150 --> 00:25:56.990 So, in terms of the past life regressions, and let me tell you everyone,

between the sessions I've had with Daniel and the ones I've done through recordings or through online, I have probably about a hundred stories now of different regressions that I've done. 00:25:57.150 --> 00:26:01.790 Because when I'm with Daniel, we do like seven lifetimes in one session. 00:26:01.870 --> 00:26:03.790 We just fly through them. 00:26:04.269 --> 00:26:15.470 And each of those stories feels deeply personal and connected to me and profoundly different than what I've experienced in this life. 00:26:15.710 --> 00:26:23.870 So there's something other than familiar in the past life regressions, which brings me awe. 00:26:24.110 --> 00:26:41.310 Like different places that I've lived, or different like clothes that I wore, or cultures that I didn't know about, like that show up in these things that I did just haven't had like literal one-on-one experience with in this lifetime. 00:26:41.710 --> 00:26:44.350 And those are things that are awe-inspiring. 00:26:44.509 --> 00:26:50.670 It's the same thing in a dream, like when you see something in a dream you've never seen before, and then maybe you see it again later. 00:26:50.910 --> 00:27:00.990 I think there might be something there to that like imaginal realm or that connected realm of things that move beyond our 3D world. 00:27:01.630 --> 00:27:02.269 Cool. 00:27:03.150 --> 00:27:03.550 Thank you. 00:27:03.790 --> 00:27:05.150 So, does it help my evolution? 00:27:05.230 --> 00:27:06.590 That's all I really care about. 00:27:07.710 --> 00:27:09.310 I'm glad you brought that up. 00:27:09.630 --> 00:27:15.790 Because as we now transition into the expanse method, that was one of the intentions behind it. 00:27:16.269 --> 00:27:22.830 Was to look, I think whatever anyone takes away is their choice. 00:27:23.230 --> 00:27:23.470 Right. 00:27:23.630 --> 00:27:29.470 It's not up to me what's the most important or valuable thing for someone to ponder on after. 00:27:29.870 --> 00:27:38.830 But what I wanted with the expanse method was something that was going to chop down on we'll say the more woo-woo side of things. 00:27:40.030 --> 00:27:49.390 So anyone who was going through the experience would be confronted with the uh I hate to put it that way. 00:27:49.550 --> 00:27:49.710 Yeah. 00:27:50.030 --> 00:27:51.390 But it's like the ick. 00:27:52.190 --> 00:27:53.150 The spiritual ick. 00:27:53.790 --> 00:28:08.590 We'll call it the spiritual ick, where uh because I mean, I will still stand by this for QHT and BQH, the other modalities that I'm a practitioner of, I think they are very, very wonderful. 00:28:08.830 --> 00:28:14.430 And there are so many wonderful things that can come as a result of having a session in those modalities. 00:28:14.509 --> 00:28:35.150 But one of the detriments, at least in my eyes, is that there's a much more woo-woo component to it, which I think can kind of dilute the headiness of it and allow someone to walk away more fixated on wow, I just connected with my higher self. 00:28:35.390 --> 00:28:37.550 My higher self came through with messages. 00:28:38.030 --> 00:28:51.710 Very potent, yes, but I also think that that takes away an individual's own personal power because I think there can be an over-reliance on I can't make a move in life until my higher self gives me the message or gives me the go-ahead. 00:28:52.269 --> 00:28:54.030 Yeah, sure, the spiritual ick. 00:28:54.269 --> 00:28:55.550 And I still need to find a way. 00:28:55.630 --> 00:28:58.910 I mean, I launched it a year ago at this point, basically. 00:28:59.150 --> 00:29:03.470 I think it was in October or November when I officially launched the expanse method. 00:29:03.710 --> 00:29:06.990 And we're recording this early September of 2026. 00:29:07.150 --> 00:29:07.390 Yeah. 00:29:07.550 --> 00:29:12.509 And yeah, I still need to find a way to market it, but nonetheless, what Jenny said right now, it's like the spiritual ick. 00:29:12.590 --> 00:29:17.070 It's like the yeah, yeah, uh, not the ah. 00:29:17.390 --> 00:29:19.390 No, can it still have that component? 00:29:19.550 --> 00:29:20.030 Yes. 00:29:20.670 --> 00:29:25.310 So anyone who has gone through the experience, or you can think of a better way for me to market it, please let me know. 00:29:25.470 --> 00:29:44.590 But for right now, the spiritual ick, which ultimately I feel moves the needle forward even more for you and your own evolution as a person on this planet, and hopefully that parlays into as a soul and the evolutionary growth of that soul or whatever the equivalent may be. 00:29:44.830 --> 00:29:51.550 So, Jenny, you've had a couple sessions before with me that weren't expanse, and you've done one that was the expanse method. 00:29:52.030 --> 00:29:56.350 So, right off the bat, what do you think the biggest difference is? 00:29:58.030 --> 00:30:07.070 First of all, I had no idea what I was going into because before we had a past life regression, I had heard other people's stories about past life regression on your podcast. 00:30:07.150 --> 00:30:12.350 And that's how I knew I wanted to do it was because I heard other people's experience of past life regression. 00:30:12.670 --> 00:30:37.790 And um, I'd never had an experience or interest in past life regression before, but I fell down the spiritual deep rabbit hole in 2020, like many people did, and um uh and in 2021 was a huge, huge year of growth and expansion in in both my personal spiritual work and the spiritual industry as a whole. 00:30:38.110 --> 00:30:46.269 So I kind of knew what I was expecting going into the past life regression with you because of the stories other people had told. 00:30:46.509 --> 00:30:54.269 And because you and I have done sessions and things before, I sort of knew what was going to happen in the expanse method, but really didn't know what to expect. 00:30:54.430 --> 00:31:02.110 And I have to say, I didn't know if I was doing it right a lot of the time, but that's always probably am

I doing this right? 00:31:02.269 --> 00:31:03.150 kind of thing. 00:31:03.390 --> 00:31:17.070 But I knew it would be, you know, a guided journey, for lack of a better word, a guided sort of meditative session that would help me open my subconscious and hopefully bring answers to certain things. 00:31:17.310 --> 00:31:31.150 So I liked not having the pressure of the past life label because you know, the skeptic in my head was like, I don't know if this is a really a past life, or is this really me or is this someone else? 00:31:31.310 --> 00:31:34.590 Like what when calling at the expans method, I didn't have to worry about that. 00:31:34.670 --> 00:31:40.190 It was just a journey, didn't really matter what it was tied to or where it came from. 00:31:40.590 --> 00:31:40.990 Yeah. 00:31:41.230 --> 00:31:42.830 Did that answer the question? 00:31:43.230 --> 00:31:49.470 Yeah, you know, and one other thing I just thought of that actually I think you had an influence on this somewhat. 00:31:49.710 --> 00:31:52.350 Because I think it was you, Jenny. 00:31:52.509 --> 00:31:54.110 I don't know if that's third person. 00:31:54.509 --> 00:31:56.990 You, Jenny, me, me, Jenny, you target. 00:31:59.070 --> 00:32:08.430 There was something that you said that always stuck with me when you referred to, I believe it was your first session as having like the past life regression glow or hangover. 00:32:08.670 --> 00:32:09.150 Oh, yeah. 00:32:09.550 --> 00:32:10.030 Mm-hmm. 00:32:10.750 --> 00:32:11.070 Yeah. 00:32:11.150 --> 00:32:15.390 So I mean, you you were instrumental in that because that was something that always stuck with me. 00:32:15.630 --> 00:32:21.870 Because I think that, yeah, with the without the ick, that's what you have the potential to do. 00:32:21.950 --> 00:32:22.190 Yes. 00:32:22.350 --> 00:32:26.110 Is have that past life regression hangover, or was it glow or hangover? 00:32:26.509 --> 00:32:28.030 Oh, it was definitely glow. 00:32:28.830 --> 00:32:30.509 The post-past life regression glow. 00:32:30.670 --> 00:32:33.230 Yeah, I felt like I'd done really good drugs. 00:32:34.030 --> 00:32:37.230 Which is what I think could be the uh the deceiving thing. 00:32:37.790 --> 00:32:42.030 So even for you to say, you know, with this, I don't know if I was doing it right. 00:32:42.190 --> 00:32:43.150 I'm like, that's okay. 00:32:43.310 --> 00:32:52.830 You know, there is no pressure to label it as that was a past life or that was a figment of my imagination, or that was something that the subconscious was projecting. 00:32:53.150 --> 00:33:02.509 It's just meant to expand your understanding of yourself and the world around you and how you can move forward in life in a more expansive way, I guess you could say. 00:33:02.670 --> 00:33:02.910 Yeah. 00:33:03.070 --> 00:33:08.910 So that tracks where I don't want anyone to have the pressure of, well, what was it? 00:33:09.390 --> 00:33:11.150 Well, what do you think it was? 00:33:11.630 --> 00:33:12.269 Yeah. 00:33:13.070 --> 00:33:14.910 So I'm cool with that. 00:33:15.150 --> 00:33:25.870 Yeah, having it having it the expanse method rather than fixated on past life regression definitely made it more, I think it opened up my mind to be a little bit more playful. 00:33:25.950 --> 00:33:31.950 And I did have, I think I did have a vision of one of the past lives that I'd had recurringly. 00:33:32.190 --> 00:33:40.190 Um, I have this recurring thing where I'm a caveman and I wake up in a cave and then there's like animals around me and I can understand what the animals are doing. 00:33:40.350 --> 00:33:44.269 So that came up in this, just like it did in my past life aggressions. 00:33:44.350 --> 00:33:48.190 That seems to be like a starting point for me in in certain ways. 00:33:48.430 --> 00:33:55.310 So that still came up, but I was like, but I don't need to worry about, you know, whether anything else is a life or not. 00:33:55.470 --> 00:34:04.269 I can just experience whatever stories are coming through, and I don't have to like worry about what it means about who I was in a past life. 00:34:04.350 --> 00:34:19.230 Or I know karma is a big conversation that we talk about in terms of past lives, specifically um actions that are taken in past lives that we're either we're either trying to move through our systems or make better choices for. 00:34:19.309 --> 00:34:30.509 In this one, there wasn't the same weight of karma in the expanse method, even though it's it is probably integral and and part of the process anyway. 00:34:30.670 --> 00:34:34.269 It felt it felt less heavy in that way, in that sense. 00:34:34.590 --> 00:34:35.469 How so? 00:34:36.590 --> 00:34:37.309 I don't know. 00:34:37.469 --> 00:34:40.269 I think I just felt lighter during the whole thing as well. 00:34:40.429 --> 00:34:46.510 Like it just felt less like there were labels on things and it could just be more playful. 00:34:46.750 --> 00:34:54.430 Although I know that um before I started, you said everybody's had kind of a hard time with these, like in terms of the heaviness of stuff that's come through. 00:34:54.590 --> 00:34:56.670 And I was just like playing the whole time. 00:34:56.829 --> 00:35:01.070 And I have had very serious past life regressions before that were quite traumatic. 00:35:01.309 --> 00:35:03.150 So I was like, okay, I'm ready for it. 00:35:03.389 --> 00:35:10.190 But um, in this one, I was just very playful and had had a lot of, I mean, I did die in one of the chat. 00:35:10.670 --> 00:35:11.150 We all die. 00:35:11.550 --> 00:35:12.190 Yes. 00:35:12.510 --> 00:35:18.349 Um, but like it wasn't, I was not like weeping in this session like I did with other ones. 00:35:18.430 --> 00:35:32.269 So I'm not here to say you won't weep in your expanse method um session, but I was if from in my experience for this one, I was much more like playful and light, and it just felt like there were less uh restrictions or limitations around it. 00:35:32.590

--> 00:35:42.750 I'm still learning along the way, too, because I say there's been a couple of sessions like yours where it's lighter and and I'm just sitting there scratching my head, like huh? 00:35:44.349 --> 00:35:52.269 But nonetheless, I think it's important for me to also let go of the expectation of the or the the full ick. 00:35:52.430 --> 00:35:56.430 How still does it have the ah component, you know, that glow? 00:35:56.590 --> 00:36:05.630 I'm hard pressed to find a session at this point that's really left the uh, like you know, like you walk away in a shining light or something like that. 00:36:05.869 --> 00:36:09.550 Yeah, but that only really happened the first regression I had anyway. 00:36:09.710 --> 00:36:15.710 And I liked how you talked about it, like it comes and then there's a tidal wave of work to do after. 00:36:17.950 --> 00:36:18.590 I don't know. 00:36:18.750 --> 00:36:23.230 Do you multi do people usually have that glow like multiple times after sessions? 00:36:23.550 --> 00:36:25.789 Or does it is it really just for the first time? 00:36:26.269 --> 00:36:28.269 I've had people have the glow after. 00:36:28.510 --> 00:36:28.990 Yeah. 00:36:29.230 --> 00:36:39.309 Um, I mean, so I wondered if it's just because you're like unlocking something in your brain that's been asleep for a long time and it gives you this great like dopamine hit or something, like something euphoric kind of comes. 00:36:39.470 --> 00:36:44.349 There's probably some science behind it that has to do with brain chemistry and things like that. 00:36:44.510 --> 00:36:46.510 But um, that's what it kind of felt like for me. 00:36:46.590 --> 00:36:57.230 It was like this little door was opened up in my brain, and I was like, oh, cool, this whole new like world of possibilities to explore, which I think gave me a little bit of a high. 00:36:57.710 --> 00:37:13.470 I think we're talking about the same thing because for me personally, when I had my first, I would say one-on-one session, because I did a lot of the the YouTube recordings first, you know, before my first like where I had a practitioner doing it for me. 00:37:13.630 --> 00:37:15.150 And those felt profound. 00:37:15.550 --> 00:37:18.030 But when I had my very first session, I walked away. 00:37:18.110 --> 00:37:22.349 And and when you brought up the past life of Gresha Glow, it was like, oh yeah, I know that feeling. 00:37:22.750 --> 00:37:30.750 Because for me, it was a shift in the way I perceived the world and also a massive shift in my belief system. 00:37:31.389 --> 00:37:36.349 And I did feel like I was walking on water, I didn't see myself as Jesus. 00:37:37.070 --> 00:37:47.630 But you know, I've often said that when I walked out of my first session, I I was looking at dirt different because to me, I'm like, even that dirt has some level of consciousness. 00:37:47.789 --> 00:37:55.630 I don't know what it is, I don't know if it has the awareness of a human or something else, but I'm like, everything here is part of something. 00:37:55.950 --> 00:37:56.430 Yes. 00:37:56.829 --> 00:38:05.950 But I think while that was an amazing feeling and a feeling that I wouldn't trade for anything, and if I could do it again, I would do it the exact same way. 00:38:06.349 --> 00:38:24.510 But what I think it also did was it led to a tremendous amount of spiritual bypassing on my end, and that I was more fixated on recapturing that feeling and almost ignoring everything that had come before it. 00:38:24.670 --> 00:38:28.910 And then I'm like, none of none of what has happened in my life matters. 00:38:29.309 --> 00:38:32.030 Whatever happened, happened, whatever. 00:38:32.190 --> 00:38:37.789 It made me who I am, and I'm on this path right now where I'm fucking enlightened. 00:38:38.030 --> 00:38:41.710 I wasn't walking around saying that, but in my head, I was. 00:38:41.950 --> 00:38:44.430 It's every every 25-year-old. 00:38:45.230 --> 00:38:46.590 It was 29 at the time. 00:38:46.829 --> 00:38:51.550 Every late 20th person thinks they have it all figured out until their first Saturn return. 00:38:52.829 --> 00:38:53.789 This is what I mean. 00:38:54.750 --> 00:39:03.470 My first one-on-one was almost exactly six months before my official Saturn return, like that that exact hit. 00:39:03.869 --> 00:39:07.150 So I walked into my Saturn return, like literally walking around. 00:39:07.389 --> 00:39:09.950 I'm in light again, not focalizing that. 00:39:10.110 --> 00:39:11.950 But that's the way that I saw the world. 00:39:12.030 --> 00:39:18.190 And for a long time, I just I didn't look at the things that were still hurting me because I'm like, it doesn't matter. 00:39:18.269 --> 00:39:19.630 They made me who I am. 00:39:19.869 --> 00:39:26.349 I am this this spiritual being on a human journey here to help raise the you are a starseed, right? 00:39:26.670 --> 00:39:31.070 You are like convinced you are a starseed, which maybe, maybe we are. 00:39:31.789 --> 00:39:32.430 Who knows? 00:39:33.070 --> 00:39:34.269 Terms are relevant right now. 00:39:35.550 --> 00:39:37.630 Does some of that resonate with what you're saying right now? 00:39:37.789 --> 00:39:39.789 That could have been what I was telling myself. 00:39:40.030 --> 00:39:42.430 Uh uh. 00:39:43.230 --> 00:39:46.990 This is no shape to starseeds, you know, we're all none whatsoever. 00:39:47.230 --> 00:39:47.789 Who can say? 00:39:48.269 --> 00:39:50.750 Who can say with that? 00:39:51.150 --> 00:39:56.750 I can see the allure of the looking into the starseed journey. 00:39:56.990 --> 00:40:01.070 I can see how there's the potential for it to be beneficial. 00:40:01.550 --> 00:40:04.590 And I mean, I'll say this for Instagram. 00:40:04.670 --> 00:40:08.030 And this is like, and these are the things that I worry about. 00:40:08.269 --> 00:40:16.510 Where if I'm following an account, and let's just say if you came across an account, you're like, oh, Daniel's following it. 00:40:16.670 -->

00:40:18.030 Well, I trust his judgment. 00:40:18.190 --> 00:40:19.710 I think you do most of the time, maybe. 00:40:19.789 --> 00:40:20.670 Yes, no, maybe so. 00:40:20.990 --> 00:40:22.110 Depending on the topic. 00:40:22.349 --> 00:40:23.389 Yeah, okay, that's fair. 00:40:23.550 --> 00:40:23.710 Yeah. 00:40:23.869 --> 00:40:31.230 But nonetheless, like if you could be thinking, well, if Daniel follows this person, is that kind of an unofficial endorsement? 00:40:31.470 --> 00:40:38.590 And then I can follow because you know, if he is, and and he has some good judgment sometimes, maybe this is one of those times where his judgment is okay. 00:40:38.750 --> 00:40:43.710 But the truth is, there are a lot of accounts that I follow because I highly disagree with them. 00:40:43.869 --> 00:40:44.030 Right. 00:40:44.190 --> 00:40:46.990 And I want to understand where people are. 00:40:47.150 --> 00:40:58.910 And I want to understand that if someone comes into a session with me and is spewing off a bunch of spiritual stuff or new age mumbo jumbo, I want to at least understand where they're coming from and be able to keep up with them, be like, okay, well, let's talk about this. 00:40:59.630 --> 00:41:04.030 So there's an account that I follow where it's all starseed stuff. 00:41:04.829 --> 00:41:09.230 And we'll take the the people out of the equation or the person. 00:41:09.470 --> 00:41:09.950 Right. 00:41:10.190 --> 00:41:20.190 And there's a lot of content on there where they bring up pop culture stuff and they talk about, oh, this TV show right now, this character is a liar in Starseed. 00:41:20.510 --> 00:41:23.710 This character is a Octurian starseed. 00:41:23.789 --> 00:41:26.430 I mean, I'm not down with all the lingo with it. 00:41:27.070 --> 00:41:34.990 I can understand on a certain level what they may be going for, at least in my idealized view of what they're going for, which is this is archetypal. 00:41:35.309 --> 00:41:42.590 But if I were to talk to the creator behind that account, I would say, you want to know how I know you're full of shit? 00:41:42.910 --> 00:41:45.470 That I'm just gonna make something up right now. 00:41:45.550 --> 00:41:54.670 If they were to say Superman is a liar in starseed, so I say, You want to know how I know, and I may say it nicer, but you want to know how I know you're full of shit? 00:41:54.910 --> 00:41:56.670 How do you know I'm full of shit on that? 00:41:56.829 --> 00:42:00.670 Well, one, because Krypton wasn't in the fucking liar constellation. 00:42:03.470 --> 00:42:04.590 Again, I don't know, maybe. 00:42:04.829 --> 00:42:07.710 Yeah, but we do that with astrology archetypes all the time, too. 00:42:07.869 --> 00:42:09.789 So here's the big one. 00:42:09.950 --> 00:42:13.550 You want to know how I know that Superman isn't a liar in Starseed? 00:42:13.789 --> 00:42:14.590 How, Daniel? 00:42:14.670 --> 00:42:15.550 How do you know? 00:42:15.869 --> 00:42:17.869 Because Superman's not real. 00:42:18.510 --> 00:42:23.630 Except he is real because we've brought him to life through our consciousness and imagination. 00:42:23.950 --> 00:42:25.470 You know what I mean though. 00:42:25.710 --> 00:42:37.389 Because if I do a past life regression with someone and they somehow identify themselves as coming from this star system, well, the person I'm doing the regression with is a real person. 00:42:37.630 --> 00:42:56.269 Now, whether or not the information is true or that they're not mixing their signals because they saw this Instagram account and wanted to identify with the Lyran star system, because from what I understand, if you like cats, then apparently you're from that constellation because they look like cats or something like that. 00:42:57.150 --> 00:42:57.470 Sure. 00:42:57.630 --> 00:42:59.470 Okay, yes, yes, no, maybe so. 00:42:59.550 --> 00:43:02.030 But nonetheless, I'm talking to a real person there. 00:43:02.590 --> 00:43:10.590 And if that information again is coming from a real place, then yeah, they could be a lyre in Starseed. 00:43:11.550 --> 00:43:14.750 Superman is a fictional character. 00:43:15.789 --> 00:43:16.590 Superman. 00:43:16.750 --> 00:43:20.030 Yeah, how can we label Superman as a lie? 00:43:20.269 --> 00:43:22.590 And again, I this is an extreme example. 00:43:22.670 --> 00:43:39.389 I don't think that this account has called Superman a lyren starseed, but nonetheless, it's just labels that are being stuck on these, or you know, just strapped or stuck on these characters when it's like what what or is it more archetypal what they're going for? 00:43:39.470 --> 00:43:44.670 But nonetheless, how I see that to be detrimental and part of that past life regression glow. 00:43:45.389 --> 00:44:01.630 Let's just say that I were to take someone back and they saw themselves as a Lyron Starseed, and then they went to Instagram and typed in Lyron Starseeds, and that hashtag popped up, and they're like, Superman, Superman is a Lyran Starseed. 00:44:01.869 --> 00:44:04.910 Oh my god, Superman is just like me. 00:44:05.070 --> 00:44:08.990 Well, god complex a bit, or ha. 00:44:09.309 --> 00:44:15.389 So every time they see Superman, everything is starseed, and they're like, what other rabbit hole can I go down with this? 00:44:15.630 --> 00:44:17.869 And then they start seeing starseeds and everything. 00:44:17.950 --> 00:44:22.510 It's like, I gotta watch this TV show and I gotta identify what every character is. 00:44:22.670 --> 00:44:24.349 I have like, are they a Lyran Star? 00:44:24.510 --> 00:44:25.950 Are they a Syrian starseed? 00:44:26.030 --> 00:44:27.710 Are they an Octurian Starseed? 00:44:27.789 --> 00:44:29.869 Are they Well, then that's their journey. 00:44:30.030 --> 00:44:35.869 Like, you have no control what someone takes out of a a session or what rabbit holes they fall down. 00:44:35.950 --> 00:44:47.150 But like you're If someone comes out and their their glow is because they suddenly have a God

complex, that is part of the ego work that they're doing through this experience. 00:44:47.710 --> 00:44:54.829 I mean now where I get hung up is I agree with you that anyone's journey is their journey. 00:44:54.990 --> 00:44:55.309 Yeah. 00:44:55.470 --> 00:44:58.269 That's the journey that they're probably meant to go on. 00:44:58.510 --> 00:45:05.550 I probably had to go on the journey that I went on, you know, identifying myself as more than being just a human. 00:45:05.710 --> 00:45:08.510 And again, I wasn't saying like I'm fucking God or I'm Jesus. 00:45:08.670 --> 00:45:09.550 Nothing like that. 00:45:09.789 --> 00:45:12.670 But it's ah, oh these stupid humans. 00:45:14.829 --> 00:45:17.309 That was the shit that I was saying in my head. 00:45:17.550 --> 00:45:24.990 Yes, and it was where we are Jesus and we are stupid humans, but all at the same time. 00:45:25.630 --> 00:45:26.110 Yeah. 00:45:26.349 --> 00:45:28.110 That whole non-duality, duality. 00:45:28.269 --> 00:45:28.750 Exactly. 00:45:28.990 --> 00:45:30.590 I think both can exist at the same time. 00:45:30.910 --> 00:45:32.750 Yes, and Daniel. 00:45:33.789 --> 00:45:37.710 But I can say it was probably important for me to go on that journey. 00:45:37.789 --> 00:45:38.030 Yeah. 00:45:38.269 --> 00:45:40.910 So I can understand and I can relate. 00:45:41.150 --> 00:45:46.910 And that's not to say that no one shouldn't go on that journey or isn't meant to go on that journey. 00:45:46.990 --> 00:46:00.510 But then the question becomes just because I believe that everyone who goes on a journey is meant to go on that journey, does that mean that I shouldn't come on my podcast and say, hey guys, let's look at this objectively. 00:46:00.750 --> 00:46:06.910 When we're attaching star seed labels to fictional characters, how do we know? 00:46:07.309 --> 00:46:08.590 Like it's so distinct. 00:46:08.750 --> 00:46:10.910 Yeah, but everything that you can see the hands-off approach. 00:46:11.230 --> 00:46:15.789 Everything that you you preach is we don't really know. 00:46:16.110 --> 00:46:20.110 Anyway, like it's it's more about the experience that matters. 00:46:20.430 --> 00:46:41.470 And my past life regression glow came from a place of like feeling hope after a very long time of not feeling any hope, like going through a really difficult life-changing experience at the end of decades of a very difficult life-changing experience. 00:46:41.710 --> 00:46:49.150 And coming out of this session, feeling like a window had been opened where all other doors were closed. 00:46:49.389 --> 00:46:52.750 To use that saying, like it felt like hope. 00:46:52.829 --> 00:46:57.230 And that glow to me was not just hope, it was familiar. 00:46:57.389 --> 00:47:02.349 It was like this wasn't just a foreign experience that taught me something new. 00:47:02.510 --> 00:47:03.950 This feels like home. 00:47:04.110 --> 00:47:15.070 There's something in there that feels very close to me and reminds me that I am more than just what I've been through in this, in this place. 00:47:15.230 --> 00:47:28.590 So that sense of hope and like not just what else is out there in terms of like greedy consumption of like finding the answers to life, the universe, and everything, but like there is magic here. 00:47:28.750 --> 00:47:31.150 There's there is magic here. 00:47:31.550 --> 00:47:34.430 And I saw a glimpse of it again. 00:47:34.750 --> 00:47:41.309 And now I can take the next steps to what this journey might bring for me. 00:47:41.950 --> 00:47:44.030 I hear you a hundred percent. 00:47:44.269 --> 00:47:58.110 And this is probably also something that I need to look at is why is it when I hear past life regression glow, do I automatically associate it with my experience and not taking other experiences into consideration? 00:47:58.750 --> 00:48:06.430 And even hearing you talk about that right now, I'm like, okay, I should ease up a bit and just like, yeah, okay, that's cool. 00:48:06.590 --> 00:48:09.230 But then I also think about you and your journey. 00:48:09.550 --> 00:48:20.269 And I don't think that that glow, like I hear the distinction with the glow, but you were also someone who I don't think you let that glow interfere with shadow work. 00:48:20.590 --> 00:48:27.710 No, I've never been someone, I am very anti-toxic positivity, have always been. 00:48:27.869 --> 00:48:45.550 Have all um you and I have talked a number of times about our experience with chronic illness and the number of modalities and therapeutics and people that think that positive mindset is it or or the mindset that you have is is the root of your problems with chronic illness or things like that. 00:48:45.789 --> 00:48:49.630 So I'm very anti-toxic positivity. 00:48:49.869 --> 00:48:57.070 To me, the the whole like like convincing yourself that something good is better doesn't work for me. 00:48:57.150 --> 00:48:59.150 I have to question everything. 00:48:59.470 --> 00:49:06.269 I am a mystic because I am a skeptic and I have no interest in painting. 00:49:06.510 --> 00:49:11.869 I love glitter and sparkles and unicorns, but I do not sugarcoat everything. 00:49:11.950 --> 00:49:13.789 I have a Scorpiostellium. 00:49:13.869 --> 00:49:25.309 I need to get to the bottom of the dirty, gritty, hard parts of life in order to experience experience the the gold of the rest of it. 00:49:25.470 --> 00:49:36.590 So I've never been a stranger to shadow work, and it's never been in my nature to gloss over or try to push something under the rug. 00:49:36.750 --> 00:49:40.190 So that's part of my nature as my personality, anyway. 00:49:41.630 --> 00:49:44.829 Because I guess that's ultimately what I want to see. 00:49:45.070 --> 00:49:45.470 Yeah. 00:49:45.710 --> 00:50:03.869 Is that balance between having that glow, but also not looking away from everything that is not part of that glow because I think as humans, and and I've I guilty because I felt so good after, I didn't want to look at

anything else. 00:50:04.030 --> 00:50:10.910 But I think Jenny is like that prime example of oh, you can feel that glow, but then dive into the shadow work. 00:50:11.070 --> 00:50:11.470 Oh, yeah. 00:50:11.630 --> 00:50:14.670 You know, it's like this gave me a new lease. 00:50:14.829 --> 00:50:18.110 I won't say a full lease on life, but a new lease on a perspective. 00:50:18.430 --> 00:50:23.950 And I and it feels good, but I'm gonna keep diving in to what feels uncomfortable. 00:50:24.190 --> 00:50:24.430 Yeah. 00:50:24.670 --> 00:50:37.550 I I I think that you're like, I won't put you on a pedestal right now, but I think that that's the goal for everyone is like find that balance between ah and uh yes. 00:50:37.710 --> 00:50:42.030 Shadow work is an imperative part of light work. 00:50:42.670 --> 00:50:45.070 It you gotta have both of them. 00:50:45.470 --> 00:50:49.550 So with that, are you ready to play the Saturn game? 00:50:49.789 --> 00:50:50.990 The Saturn game? 00:50:51.230 --> 00:50:52.590 Yeah, that sounds great. 00:50:52.670 --> 00:50:53.309 Let's do it. 00:50:53.550 --> 00:50:56.269 I don't think I was playing this yet last time you were on, right? 00:50:56.590 --> 00:50:58.430 I I don't think so. 00:50:58.910 --> 00:50:59.710 Okay, are you ready? 00:50:59.869 --> 00:51:02.829 Unless it's name a song and I'll tell you what year it was. 00:51:03.470 --> 00:51:08.510 No, no, that that was the the favorite song about time and why part. 00:51:08.750 --> 00:51:10.670 I stopped doing that because it working. 00:51:11.070 --> 00:51:12.430 It was too easy. 00:51:13.950 --> 00:51:18.829 Well, you know, you get it from dates and times and places. 00:51:19.070 --> 00:51:23.710 Nonetheless, Jenny, in this little plastic baggie here, I have four periods of time. 00:51:23.869 --> 00:51:26.110 Oh I like to maintain the integrity of the game. 00:51:26.190 --> 00:51:29.789 So as you see, I'm putting my hand in once I pull it out. 00:51:30.030 --> 00:51:34.510 Go in twice, I mix up pieces of paper so I'm not rigging it. 00:51:34.670 --> 00:51:37.070 Now a third time I'm pull out a piece of paper. 00:51:37.230 --> 00:51:42.590 So, Jenny, how have you grown in the last week? 00:51:43.550 --> 00:51:47.789 Oh, I have seen this or heard it. 00:51:48.269 --> 00:51:49.309 I don't remember. 00:51:49.550 --> 00:51:51.789 Do you do video on YouTube now? 00:51:52.510 --> 00:51:54.990 Oh okay, so I must have seen it somewhere. 00:51:55.070 --> 00:51:55.869 I mean heard it. 00:51:56.030 --> 00:51:57.150 I'm mixing them up now. 00:51:57.230 --> 00:51:58.510 Well, how have I grown in the last week? 00:51:58.750 --> 00:52:00.430 Hopefully on Timeless Spirituality. 00:52:00.670 --> 00:52:02.990 Yes, yes, yes, yes, on your podcast. 00:52:03.869 --> 00:52:05.150 I'm like, uh oh, did I lose it? 00:52:05.389 --> 00:52:06.910 How have I grown in the last week? 00:52:07.470 --> 00:52:11.150 Gosh, I grow so much all the time. 00:52:11.309 --> 00:52:13.150 It's a never-ending process. 00:52:13.470 --> 00:52:15.070 In the last week. 00:52:16.510 --> 00:52:18.590 So hard to put into words. 00:52:20.670 --> 00:52:22.190 Try like a caveman. 00:52:23.150 --> 00:52:23.950 Me, Jenny. 00:52:30.190 --> 00:52:41.470 I'm on a I'm on an ongoing journey, and every week I would say is a step in growing that on a few few different levels. 00:52:41.630 --> 00:52:47.630 One of the levels is holding grief and joy at the same time. 00:52:47.950 --> 00:52:55.869 And there's a progression of that that happens regularly, and different cycles of it come through. 00:52:56.510 --> 00:53:12.510 So I don't know how to explain the growth other than that instead of blaming myself for uncomfortable feelings that happen, I can just witness them and just let it be what it is. 00:53:12.750 --> 00:53:18.510 It's not singularly what happened in the last week, but it's an it's an evolving process. 00:53:19.230 --> 00:53:20.190 A theme. 00:53:20.829 --> 00:53:21.389 Yeah. 00:53:21.710 --> 00:53:26.910 And on a very practical level, I got three boxes of stuff ready to donate. 00:53:27.150 --> 00:53:29.150 And that's a big, that's a big job. 00:53:29.230 --> 00:53:31.470 That's a big especially for a Taurus moon. 00:53:31.630 --> 00:53:32.590 Exactly. 00:53:32.910 --> 00:53:37.309 I cleaned my closet out in the spring of 2018, and I'm still grieving that. 00:53:37.470 --> 00:53:45.150 Oh so trust me, there's still plenty of material things that I am grieving after different changes in my life. 00:53:45.470 --> 00:53:52.910 But through those processes, I think I've I've developed a discernment for things that I can let go and things that I just don't need to. 00:53:53.230 --> 00:53:55.869 I'm like, oh, this old shirt can be a rag that I'll never use. 00:53:56.110 --> 00:53:56.510 Exactly. 00:53:56.590 --> 00:53:58.750 I have a whole basket full of shirts. 00:53:58.829 --> 00:54:01.150 I'm like, this will be a quilt someday. 00:54:04.670 --> 00:54:06.990 Well, what are your services? 00:54:07.309 --> 00:54:08.910 What are my services? 00:54:09.150 --> 00:54:09.630 Mm-hmm. 00:54:10.110 --> 00:54:15.470 Um, in terms of astrology, uh, I do astrology readings basically. 00:54:15.630 --> 00:54:16.910 It's very open-ended. 00:54:16.990 --> 00:54:21.470 You can book a one-hour call with me and we can talk about anything you want to talk about. 00:54:21.550 --> 00:54:26.430 And if you don't know your birthday and birth time, we can just do tarot reading. 00:54:26.590 --> 00:54:29.470 Or if you don't like understand astrology, you don't want to do that. 00:54:29.630 --> 00:54:31.070 It's a spiritual consultation. 00:54:31.150 --> 00:54:36.990 So you can do a one-hour online call, or you can book for a pre-recorded session where you ask me a question. 00:54:37.150 --> 00:54:41.150 And in my own time, I record a video for you and then just send it to you. 00:54:41.230 --> 00:54:48.030 So you don't, if you're very introverted and you don't want to have a

conversation with me, you just want to ask a mystical question, you can do that as well. 00:54:48.349 --> 00:54:57.789 And I'm not currently available for other multimedia work and social media work, but the freelancer biz is always a revolving door. 00:54:57.950 --> 00:55:06.750 So I'll always post about that if there is some opening up for those video editing and social media content stuffs. 00:55:07.070 --> 00:55:09.550 Sorry, Jenny, I'm gonna talk about you in third person right now. 00:55:09.789 --> 00:55:10.030 Okay. 00:55:10.269 --> 00:55:16.269 What I can say about Jenny is I know you guys can't see her right now, but she's not wearing flowing linens. 00:55:16.910 --> 00:55:19.950 You know, her I don't think her shirt is made of hemp. 00:55:20.269 --> 00:55:21.150 It is linen, though. 00:55:21.230 --> 00:55:23.070 It is a linen cotton blend. 00:55:23.710 --> 00:55:25.230 You know, work with me here, Jenny. 00:55:25.550 --> 00:55:25.710 Sorry. 00:55:26.269 --> 00:55:29.789 You know, you're not on the beach in Tulum in a flowing linen dress. 00:55:30.030 --> 00:55:30.349 No. 00:55:30.750 --> 00:55:31.389 Right? 00:55:32.030 --> 00:55:33.389 Okay, there's anything wrong with that. 00:55:33.630 --> 00:55:34.510 Not today. 00:55:35.389 --> 00:55:40.269 Okay, well, maybe I should withhold with that. 00:55:40.510 --> 00:55:41.309 Continue with your thought. 00:55:41.389 --> 00:55:43.230 I'm so sorry for interrupting you. 00:55:43.550 --> 00:55:45.309 I gotta learn to be better. 00:55:45.630 --> 00:56:03.630 What I can personally attest to about Jenny and her creative mystical wisdom, or just how wise she can be, is even just through talks I've had with her, I've come to some pretty profound aha moments where it really made me look at my life and say, I can be doing that different. 00:56:04.190 --> 00:56:05.470 That is a good point. 00:56:05.950 --> 00:56:15.389 And she has just a I mean, yes, there's there's this incredible softness about Jenny, but where it's it's like the realizations aren't forced. 00:56:15.789 --> 00:56:18.110 Where it's like, here, do you want this? 00:56:18.269 --> 00:56:19.550 This is what I see. 00:56:20.110 --> 00:56:23.150 And you guys can't see, but I'm like holding my hands up like on a plate. 00:56:23.550 --> 00:56:25.470 Like, here you can take this if you want to. 00:56:25.630 --> 00:56:28.349 So for me personally, she just really helped. 00:56:28.590 --> 00:56:33.070 And it like it wasn't even in that setting of we're gonna sit down for a session right now. 00:56:33.230 --> 00:56:37.550 There's just there's wisdom behind Jenny's 29 years on this planet. 00:56:38.190 --> 00:56:38.590 Thank you. 00:56:38.750 --> 00:56:39.710 I appreciate that. 00:56:39.869 --> 00:56:56.990 And to give you a context of my flavor, I was born in 1984 in Los Angeles, and I've lived in England for the last 13 years, and I'm obsessed with cartoons and video games and like things that make me a big old geek and a nerd. 00:56:57.070 --> 00:57:01.710 And I'm probably somewhere on this autism spectrum, but I haven't figured that out yet. 00:57:01.950 --> 00:57:03.389 Maybe we all are. 00:57:04.110 --> 00:57:14.269 Probably, but I'm very open-minded and progressive and um an ally to all groups of minorities, and I feel like that's very important. 00:57:14.430 --> 00:57:18.670 And Daniel and I have talked about this and that which and I have talked about this on podcasts. 00:57:18.829 --> 00:57:20.510 Ethics is very important to me. 00:57:20.750 --> 00:57:30.030 So I am very careful not to cross boundaries or make any claims about any of my services or my work that say they're gonna heal your life or anything like that. 00:57:30.349 --> 00:57:33.950 So I'm a real person, that's all I'm gonna say. 00:57:34.349 --> 00:57:38.990 And for everyone right now, it's be like, is Daniel really bad at math? 00:57:39.070 --> 00:57:40.990 Didn't she just say she was born in 1984? 00:57:41.070 --> 00:57:43.470 And didn't he just say she was 29 years old? 00:57:43.710 --> 00:57:45.309 No, I knew what I was doing. 00:57:45.470 --> 00:57:47.230 Any woman who comes on the show. 00:57:47.550 --> 00:57:50.269 I didn't know, I didn't hear you say I'm 29 years old. 00:57:50.349 --> 00:57:52.990 I'm very proud to almost be 42 years old. 00:57:53.150 --> 00:57:55.789 42 is the answer to life, the universe, and everything. 00:57:55.950 --> 00:57:57.070 So it's coming up. 00:57:57.869 --> 00:58:02.990 Well, because yeah, I said in your 29 years, you know, there's wisdom behind your 29. 00:58:03.070 --> 00:58:08.190 If something were talking about a Saturn cycle, no, it's like forever 29. 00:58:08.590 --> 00:58:10.750 Because for women, like what birthday is it? 00:58:10.990 --> 00:58:13.389 I think it's my 30th 29th birthday. 00:58:13.550 --> 00:58:14.670 Well, any woman can be able to do it. 00:58:14.910 --> 00:58:20.510 I'm very proud to still be uh kicking it on this planet earth right now. 00:58:20.590 --> 00:58:22.349 So I'm very proud of my age. 00:58:22.670 --> 00:58:23.710 At 29. 00:58:26.030 --> 00:58:26.510 Sure. 00:58:26.990 --> 00:58:28.190 29 plus some. 00:58:29.230 --> 00:58:31.789 So that's my testimonial for Jenny. 00:58:32.430 --> 00:58:34.670 And where can everyone reach you? 00:58:34.990 --> 00:58:36.910 Jenny Srp.com. 00:58:36.990 --> 00:58:41.470 You can find everything there, and I'm Jenny S R P across social platforms. 00:58:41.550 --> 00:58:44.750 That's S R P as in Sparkle Rainbow Pony. 00:58:44.990 --> 00:58:45.869 Thank you very much. 00:58:46.110 --> 00:58:48.430 And Jenny J E N N Y. 00:58:49.309 --> 00:58:53.630 Not like G E N N Y or G E J E E X Y Z. 00:58:54.269 --> 00:58:56.030 J E N N N Y S R P. 00:58:56.590 --> 00:58:56.910 Cool. 00:58:57.150 --> 00:58:57.630 Yes. 00:58:58.349 --> 00:58:59.470 Well, thank you for coming on. 00:58:59.630 --> 00:59:00.269 Thank you, Daniel. 00:59:00.349 --> 00:59:01.550 This is all much fun.