Transkrip lengkap untuk Decentralizing Men & Reclaiming Your Life with Isha Vela

forward in this conversation is really like the permission to live the life you want outside of what you were taught to want, right? 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:20.800 Because there's so much conditioning around um consumerism and and the body image and like everything that we are taught to desire, a lot of it is just it's bullshit. 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:27.920 And so there are there are layers underneath where it's like when you really touch into them, it's just like you know, I just want to be. 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:28.800 I just want to be. 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:33.199 Maybe I just want to like create art, or maybe I just want to spend time with people. 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:46.720 It it gets really like on the human level, it gets really granular into the spaces where we're just like, I just want to feel my energy, or I just want to like be, you know, essentially. 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:57.360 And um, that's not something that we um that we get to do, but that is really like what everybody desires underneath all the desires we're taught to desire. 00:06:58.000 --> 00:06:58.959 I love that. 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:00.079 That's beautiful. 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:04.560 I love that you're really bringing in if money were not an object, what would I be doing? 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:09.120 Because there are so many people that feel like no, they they don't get to do that. 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:16.639 But the truth is we do get to, but this conversation is gonna really illuminate because I know so many people they follow me, for instance, right? 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.360 I'm 31, single, no kids. 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:22.000 I moved to Paris, I'm a digital nomad. 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:38.560 And you know, I speak with a lot of moms who they are in their own version of maybe they're stay-at-home moms and their partner provides, or maybe they are a solo mama and they think, well, I would do what you're doing, but I'm past that time, right? 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:40.319 I can't do this because XYZ. 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:49.759 And some something I recognize about you, Isha, is like I was like, wow, this woman, she literally moved all the way. 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:51.600 She's tuning in from Vietnam, by the way. 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:53.199 I forgot to mention that. 00:07:53.519 --> 00:08:06.720 She is traveling full-time and she's in Vietnam living the minimalist life with her two children that she unschools who are neurodivergent, and and she's she's living this life, right? 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:30.240 So what I really love is the fact that there are possibilities for people, but giving people that permission to dream and visualize, to really go into the fantasy, I feel like is so foundational and just important because if you don't have that, if you don't have your North Star, it's like you don't even have something plugged into the GPS. 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:39.039 So you could have a desire, right, to make money online, or you could have a desire to take the reins financially and to be at peace and to just be. 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:55.039 But that desire does have to have context and texture, and it has to feel really real and emotionally connected and literally has to be something that you wake up every day designing your day now, not when it happens, right? 00:08:55.200 --> 00:09:04.559 Designing your day now around that feeling with what you got, with the resources that you got, because that's literally what's called being resourceful, right? 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:07.600 So take us back, my dear. 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:18.080 Like where what really started this journey where you're at in Vietnam supporting women with reclaiming their financial sovereignty? 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:38.399 And I also am excited to have the conversation as well because I know that you uh one of the posts you had shared that actually sparked this conversation was around how marriage, you feel as marriage is a trap, that it's literally designed to basically hold women hostage and fully take away their power systemically. 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:41.679 So, where did this, where did this actually stem from? 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:42.879 This is gonna be big. 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:52.159 I love yes, and I love that you asked the question that way because you know, when I was a child, I knew that I didn't want to be married. 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:54.080 Like I was very clear on that. 00:09:54.320 --> 00:10:02.240 And I told my father, and he was like, oh, who would marry you anyway because you're so you're such a loudmouth and you do this and you do that. 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:07.440 Yeah, and so I I grew up without really like having that. 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:15.679 Like I saw other people, like other girls like fantasizing about what that day would look like and what they would wear, and I was like, oh, like no, that's like I'm not gonna do that. 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:42.080 And then I met my ex-partner and I did fall in love, and I he was more traditional, and so you know, because because of many reasons, because I wanted to, because essentially I was fawning, but because I wanted to please him and I wanted to make him happy from a very like sincere place, I did get married, and I also wanted to be feel chosen, right? 00:10:42.159 --> 00:11:02.000 There was also that part of me that wanted to feel chosen, so I said yes to that, and you know, some years in, some years in, let's say, like about seven years in, this was, you know, just before we had children, there were cracks showing already, and I was like, I I don't know if I'd want to do this anymore. 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:03.600 This isn't really for me. 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:10.399 And you know, there were promises made to improve and this is gonna get better, and let's have children together. 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:15.679 And so I said yes to that, um, wanting to be compassionate, wanting to make space. 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:31.840

And you know, after I had the children, and after there was a you know, certain time that went by after the really intense period of parenting where you're like, you you don't take showers and you barely eat, um I was like, this isn't really for me. 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:35.840 And if I were to be presented with this choice again, I wouldn't choose it. 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:38.080 Like, this really isn't for me. 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:54.480 And so in those quiet moments that a lot of like moms and wives have, I imagine, you know, in the shower or while they're cooking, they're like they're resentful and they're just like, this is not working for me, like this doesn't feel good. 00:11:54.720 --> 00:12:03.759 And in those moments, I would fantasize about moving to Peru or like just being somewhere else where I could like grow my own vegetables and do that whole thing. 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:07.120 But we were embedded, right? 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:08.559 We owned a home. 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:23.919 Um my ex-husband's work was, you know, location-based, you know, it was like local, you know, so there was no no way that I could, and my therapy practice was also local and in person, right? 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:25.440 This was prior to COVID. 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:31.440 And then just before COVID happened, you know, I said, I I can't do this anymore. 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:34.240 And it was partly the structure of the marriage. 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:38.559 I just felt like I was I was too big for the structure itself. 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:43.279 Like I felt like I wanted to like burst at the seams because I was I had lost myself. 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.279 You know, it's like what everybody talks about. 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:53.519 Like I would listen to old songs and I was like, oh my God, I miss that person that used to listen to this music, you know? 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:58.240 Um, and so it was in a lot of those moments that I was like, this isn't this doesn't work for me anymore. 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:00.399 The other side was financial, right? 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:11.200 I had, I was not somebody that tracked my money, I was not somebody that took care of money, I was money avoidant, and it bit me in the butt because I was allowing somebody else's money trauma to run the whole show. 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:19.759 And when I noticed that that was happening, I was like, I gotta get out and I gotta create a better, I want like my children to inherit something much, much better, right? 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.000 Than I inherited, than he inherited. 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:23.919 And so I said, I'm gone. 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.159 And then of course COVID came along. 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:28.559 Nope, can't go anywhere, right? 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:32.399 And I wasn't back, so I couldn't go anywhere even more. 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:38.080 And um, even within my own community who were like, you know, who were really focused

on vaccination. 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:39.519 So I had to wait. 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:44.399 And and during that time I was getting a divorce, and I felt really, really trapped. 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:50.080 There were so many days where I felt like I'm never gonna get out of this, like I can't. 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:54.639 And through the process of divorce, my credit got ruined. 00:13:54.879 --> 00:14:02.080 Um, he didn't pay, he didn't make payments on a loan that he had taken out because my credit was good and his was not. 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:34.559 So it was a whole hot mess financially, and it was at the rock bottom of that, like just post-divorce that I sat down with my financial advisor, who is now my mentor in the business, and she slowly and surely like helped me get out and throughout the process of like building this business in finance because I was like, I want to do what you're doing, I want to get literate, I want to get myself out, I want to have the life of my dreams. 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:36.080 That's what I started doing. 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:37.519 I started working in the business. 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:50.399 I basically gave up my coaching business, transferred it to the financial sector, and paid down the debt and did what I needed to do, and then launched my world schooling journey. 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:56.080 Wow, that is so powerful. 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:08.000 I'm just thinking about that moment that you had fantasizing around moving back, not moving back, but moving to Peru. 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:17.200 And and just this fantasy that is a fantasy until you realize it's actually a deeper desire, it's a calling. 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:20.480 I heard the saying, I love the saying. 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:29.039 It's like everybody's a leader because everybody has a calling, but leaders are the ones who answer the call. 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:43.919 And I think what we're taught, especially in traditional types of relationships, is that the man has to provide, right? 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:53.039 And the woman is basically the one that's supposed to be cooking and cleaning and taking care of the kids and and doing the whole stay-at-home mom thing. 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:55.679 And that is like the dynamic that is supposed to be healthy. 00:15:55.759 --> 00:16:04.720 But it's like, how does that have anybody not have this calling that just gets louder and louder and louder and louder? 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.879 And the more that you ignore it, the worse that it can stir. 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:09.919 Right. 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:22.879 And so I'm just like, I'm just thinking about how, because I, and I shared this with you a little bit, we were talking a little bit before we actually hopped on the live today, but I actually went into a polarity academy. 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:23.840 That's what it's called. 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:25.679 Let's say Polarity Academy. 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:27.120 Don't do it. 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:28.559 I'm gonna put his name out there. 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:30.159 His name's Zach Rhody. 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:34.480 If you ever see that, ladies, and you you have that calling to be chosen. 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:44.799 Like if Isha's Isha's story resonates with you and you're over here, like, how can I be more feminine or or contort myself or change myself? 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.519 Or this is like what made me wrong. 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:49.200 This is why I'm not attracting them. 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:50.000 Blah, blah, blah. 00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:54.480 It's like that noise can be, it's very convincing. 00:16:54.720 --> 00:17:11.200 And I went into this polarity academy because for me, I actually had uh serial monogamy, is what I call it, where literally from when I was 12 years old, when that's when I lost my virginity, and I dated this guy for a year and a half when I was in foster care. 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:20.720 And I I was in foster care and I literally latched onto relationships as this way of that was some kind of stability and security for me way back then, right? 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:26.720 And it I jumped from, you know, another year long, another two-year, and the last one was five years. 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:33.680 I'm just celebrating that I've literally been single for four years now for the first time since I was 12 years old. 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:34.319 Yeah. 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:37.920 I had one six-month stint when I was 18. 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.759 But other than that, like I kind of literally just jumped. 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:49.200 And I share this because I got into this polarity academy, and I really never thought about marriage before. 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:54.160 I always was very anti-marriage because I didn't grow up with a two-parent household. 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:57.680 I kind of was just like, well, I don't want to do that, you know? 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:11.920 And getting into this polarity academy, I started to really think that I I need, I should have these desires to be in that kind of traditional role. 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:13.359 Because wouldn't that be nice, right? 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:18.160 To have someone that provides for you so you can just do whatever, not look at your numbers, right? 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:20.240 And not think about money and these kinds of things. 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:26.880 But the problem was is I was three and a half years into building my online business. 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:38.720 And one of the things they said in this Polarity Academy, Isha, you're gonna be like, It's like they said a woman should not be teaching or leading. 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:39.279 Okay. 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:49.920 Those one of the things a woman should not be teaching or leading, it puts her in her masculine and it's gonna repel, you know, uh a healthy masculine man that's gonna want to protect and provide for you, because

it's basically what it says. 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:52.480 And then another thing they said it was teaching, leading. 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:53.359 What was the other thing? 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.880 Oh, making more money than the man. 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:00.720 That that will be just innately. 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:02.640 It will emasculate him. 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:03.920 Yeah, exactly. 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:08.400 And so I had just hopped off my first$300,000 a year, you know. 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:17.440 Like I started my online business and I started to really reclaim my life, like coming from foster care and being a full-time artist and you know, not having parents to drop off. 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:20.720 I was on on my reclamation era, like climbing this way, you know. 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:21.519 Oh, yeah. 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:28.480 But then this polarity academy, I moved to Paris and I did this polarity academy basically within the first 90 days of it. 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:41.599 I hit the ceiling, actually, where I was like, oh no, I don't think that it's safe for me to keep, you know, reclaiming my life in this way, because otherwise then I'm gonna become unlovable and I'm gonna die alone. 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:45.440 And I was like, but I really don't want to be alone, but I also kind of do like being alone. 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:50.400 But I had I also had to sit with, I was like, damn, I just turned 29 and I literally moved to Paris. 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:51.039 I'm single. 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:53.440 Isn't this like the time of my life right now? 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:57.200 And so I had these contrasting things, right? 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:01.119 Where I was in this container that was telling me this. 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:12.400 Yet the reality was that was my biggest fear is having that moment like you where you're like listening to music or seeing your old outfits, right? 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:15.039 Or old pictures of you or like, where'd she go? 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:22.880 You know, I'm like, I'm a burlesque dancer, I love pole dance and belly dance, all things sensual, heels, all that stuff. 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:41.680 And so I started being like, okay, so it's gonna be I'm gonna intimidate and emasculate men if I make a lot of money, if I keep dancing the way that I do, if I keep dressing the way that I do, if I can't, it was like, well, it's been two years since I left that polarity academy. 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:43.680 I think I was in it for just under 90 days. 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:46.160 And I was like, look, I'm not gonna continue. 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:50.319 I thought I was gonna do the whole year, and I was like, I can't. 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:52.400 I literally just can't. 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:54.960 And I got quite gas-lit by him, actually. 00:20:55.119 --> 00:21:03.039 He said, uh, because one of the statements they said, if a woman has sex outside of a committed relationship, then it means she has low self-worth. 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:05.039 It was such a black and white statement. 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:08.160 And I disagreed with it. 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:12.400 And he straight up told me, I have a voice message from him still that says this. 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:20.000 He said, Well, you never had self-worth, so how would you even know what that even is? 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:22.000 Wow. 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:23.519 Right. 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:25.039 What a D-bag. 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:27.519 I was blown away. 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:32.240 So yeah, I feel like finally this year. 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:33.920 Almost makes me want to cry. 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:43.359 I feel like finally this year I'm at the point where I'm like, oh my God, I I really, I really do get to step into all of my desires. 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:47.920 And I have desires that I felt shame around, like add on the layers, right? 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:59.279 Of being ambitious and like wanting to be a billionaire and you know, being curious about swingers' clubs, like, you know, like these kinds of things. 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:12.160 And I'm It's like, yeah, I guess for for women who are listening to this, what would you say is like um what would you say is something that you would tell a woman that has that ambition? 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:13.599 I mean, like, tell me, right? 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:16.880 Tell me to tell the other women who are in that similar energy. 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:34.240 It's like she has a big dream and big vision, but there's still like those parts of her that kind of feel like, oh, if I really claim what I desire and really step in to create that life by my design, that I if I make other people uncomfortable, whatever, right? 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:35.759 We contort ourselves as women. 00:22:35.839 --> 00:22:40.720 This is a big, big thing of our opinions that we have, right? 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:49.680 Our beliefs, if they don't resonate with the status quo, we feel like we're too much, we're too sensual, we're too ambitious, we're too witchy, like whatever it is. 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:52.240 What you got for that woman? 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:53.119 Yeah. 00:22:53.279 --> 00:23:00.079 And so I what I hear you speaking to is the what I like to call the too much woman, right? 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:05.519 The woman, the girl who was told her desires, her needs were too much, right? 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:10.000 And so, like, even as a child had to shrink herself. 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:20.079 And the thing that I've that I want to tell the people who are listening now, and what I've had to tell myself is that you like you get to have it. 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:28.160 Because I think that you know, it's what I was saying earlier, like there's this when we don't get our needs met, right? 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:32.720 When somebody says, Oh, you're too much, like, oh, you want this and

you want that. 00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:36.079 Like, I can't get you all of those things, right? 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:45.200 We hear again and again that the too much girl becomes the too much woman whose needs are too much, who can't get all of her needs met, right? 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:57.440 And the the thing that that for me was like a really big deal to recognize is that yeah, I have a fuck ton of needs, and one person isn't going to cut it. 00:23:57.680 --> 00:23:58.000 Okay. 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:11.839 I have a lot of needs and I have a lot of desires, and it would be um unethical, um abusive, even to make to expect that one person to meet them. 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:17.039 And so, yes, I spread my need uh and my desires over many people. 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:26.559 Um and and that has really helped me really own it versus trying to fit it into this model that doesn't really work, right? 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:42.079 And it's like, okay, well, if I get to spread it out and I get to like, you know, ask many people, friendships and romantic partners and whatever to meet it, then I was like, oh, well, that that just opens up a whole realm of possibility. 00:24:42.880 --> 00:25:06.319 And in terms of my desires, you know, like you talk about growing up in the foster system, and I, you know, I talk about growing up in Puerto Rico where it's like there's island mentality, like it really is like the way that colonialism like embeds itself in sort of the cellular patterning in your body is very, very profound and very deep. 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:23.759 You know, just to give you a tiny example, like you know, when you go when my father would go to a um to a hardware store, he would buy the hardware, bring it home, and I swear to God, 75% out of a hundred times he did that, the thing he bought wouldn't work. 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:24.559 Why? 00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:35.839 Because what was sent to Puerto Rico, right, from Home Depot or from other big uh hardware store companies was the stuff that was like B-list. 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:38.799 So we would get the shitty leftovers. 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:49.680 And so even the stupid example of the hardware store communicated to me that we weren't worth it, like we weren't worth the good stuff, like the highest grade of whatever. 00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:54.880 And so there's the very profound messaging around like you don't get to have it, right? 00:25:54.960 --> 00:26:02.319 And even the this, you know, me wanting things around Christmas, like you know, I remember my mom telling me, like, you don't get to have everything you want. 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:05.519 And I did like a big energetic piece around that. 00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:18.799 And I the vision that I saw when I when I sort of went inside was like a smaller version of me crumpled onto the floor, you know, and just sort of this deep disappointment with I like I don't get to have all the things. 00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:25.839 And you know, over time it's like giving yourself just saying yes to yourself, saying yes to those desires. 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:32.720 This is what I want to share with your with your folks, with your people, is like yes, you get to have. 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:40.160 When whenever something comes in, it's like yes, like just say yes to it and sort of see what happens next, right? 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:46.480 When you decide on like when you have a vision of where you're going, right? 00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:54.079 You have a you have a goal and you start walking towards that goal, like there's an alchemical process that happens, right? 00:26:54.160 --> 00:27:02.400 You will be tested, you will be shown sort of what you need to step into in order to get there, right? 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:17.599 All of the leadership qualities, you will have to burn all of those playing smaller people pleasing parts of you, they will have to burn away so that you could face the the haters, the people who are gonna be like, what the fuck are you doing? 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:25.759 And all of the other shit that gets thrown at you when you know, when a woman steps in and says yes to all of her desires. 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:29.200 Woof that's what I yeah, that's what happens. 00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:30.960 That's so powerful. 00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:44.240 And what you said around how the things will come up to show you what needs to actually change the identity that you really I always talk about identity because girl, I see this all the time. 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:57.759 You know how many times a woman is like, I am ready to change my life, like I'm I am no longer willing to, you know, deal with this boss or deal with relying on someone there and they're ready. 00:27:57.839 --> 00:27:59.759 And they always this always happens. 00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:05.440 I call it day two challenges where you have one day you want to change your life, you're about to make the leap, and then something happens. 00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:10.880 Like things happen, like people crash their cars, people have uh crazy emergencies happen. 00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:20.000 It's like they and they always have that as like, oh, it's it's like it's a sign that I shouldn't move forward and do the thing. 00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:31.599 But I'm over here like, no, this is literally showing you what you get to actually choose differently, and you get to literally become someone that knows how to actually create more of that resilience. 00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:32.319 Because guess what? 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:41.759 If that's gonna be the thing that keeps holding you back, where else in your life do you keep having life happen to you rather than you actually going out and decide? 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.599 I love that you used that word, decide that this is this is it. 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:47.839 You know, of course there's gonna be obstacles. 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.200 That's literally the the part

that you have to do. 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:57.599 You have to, yeah, when you talk about leadership qualities, you have to really lead yourself first through this. 00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:01.279 And it's your first challenge, and it's not gonna be your last one. 00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:02.480 Exactly. 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:12.000 But I it's I I'm curious, what do you have to say to the woman that has because there's always a there's like I always say there's two types of people, right? 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:17.680 There's the people who say this is the reason why I can't, and there's people that say this is the reason why I must. 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:35.680 And there's a lot of people, Isha, who come from a place like you come from, how you shared in Puerto Rico, where you felt like you kind of got the scraps, like it wasn't this type of, you know, first world metropolitan everything, this new everything and turn-in everywhere. 00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:42.160 It's they they feel that, oh, because I come from this, that I I'm just not able. 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:44.640 I can't, like you said, I can't have that. 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:51.200 But then there are people that they end up really like using that as fuel, right? 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:56.079 How do you actually use that as fuel rather than the fear that stops you? 00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:58.160 This is a great question. 00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:01.119 And I think it is different for different people. 00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:03.200 I will share my experience. 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:09.039 Um, and I've seen it work with other people, like there is a hunger, right? 00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:24.480 There is this like this intensity that I believe, like just thinking about my my background in psychology and somatics, there is this hunger comes from a healthy fight response, right? 00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:28.400 A nervous system fight response that says, like, I'm gonna fucking go for it. 00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:31.359 Like, this is freaking mine, I'm gonna do it. 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:42.880 And this is precisely the energy that has been tamped down, reduced, contained, constricted in good girls, right? 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.359 In in women and how they are raised. 00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:46.480 Yeah. 00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:49.359 So this is like this is what needs to be activated. 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:54.799 And I think that for a lot of women and for me, what activated it was rage. 00:30:55.599 --> 00:31:09.039 When I saw somebody that was living the life that I wanted, and I felt where I was and I didn't like it, I let myself feel all the ways that I didn't like it, and I let myself get mad about it. 00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:15.200 And I was like, I fucking like I love that she's doing that thing, and I want to fucking be there, right? 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:25.440 Like getting letting myself get really ragey and letting that fire like really course through my system and like wake that fight response up. 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:27.440 Does that make sense? 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.079 That's the best answer to that question ever. 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:36.160 I couldn't, I I've literally asked been asking myself lately, how do I explain how I do what I do? 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:37.680 Because I have that hunger. 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:42.079 I have that hunger and I have that healthy sacred rage. 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:52.240 I mean, there was a time where it wasn't healthy, but you know, and then I was but I did, I come from a place where it's a very small town, nobody gets out unless you claw your way out, right? 00:31:52.319 --> 00:32:02.079 And I clawed my way out, and I still, even though I don't necessarily have a life that I have to claw my way out, I still have bigger dreams and bigger versions of myself that I want to create. 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:04.640 So I'm always in that blissful dissatisfaction. 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:19.440 But that dissatisfaction, you bet your ass that I turn that dial up often as a uh strategy, as a tool for me to like go after what I want, because otherwise it's easy to get comfortable in our patterns. 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.160 It's easy to get comfortable in our complacency. 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:27.680 It's easy to, even if you really don't like where you're at, it is familiar for a reason. 00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:28.960 Absolutely. 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:30.000 Absolutely. 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:35.519 And even Saber, even when I knew that I was going to move, right? 00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:40.319 Even though you know I had a date set and I was in the process of packing. 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:48.799 Well, maybe it's it was just before I was packing, I could feel like a really strong part of me that it was like, it would be so easy to stay. 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.319 Like it's just kind of like it's the path of least resistance. 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:57.039 I don't have to do all this work that is involved in packing and giving everything away. 00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:03.200 And it's like there was this huge, like this huge pile of like a list of things that I needed to do in order to get out. 00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:07.200 But I could feel the part of me that was like, uh, let's do it tomorrow. 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:11.839 And I would be like, uh-uh, no, we are doing these three things today, right? 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:23.759 But I could feel, I could really sense the resistance and feel the you know, really coming from a place of overwhelm because like you're packing up a house or and you're giving everything away and you're planning everything. 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:30.400 So yeah, the overwhelm can be very seductive and be like, ah, you don't want to do all that, or why don't you just stay, right? 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:35.359 It can it can speak to us in this way and it could talk us out of the thing that we really, really want. 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:37.519 Oh my gosh.

00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.119 And I still go through that. 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.839 Yeah, you know, sometimes I'm like, I'm doing these annual castle events. 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:45.039 There's so much that goes into it. 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:48.240 I want to buy a castle by 2030 and turn it into event centers. 00:33:48.480 --> 00:34:01.759 Sometimes I'm like, why would why can't I just be happy like playing video games and like smoking weed and drinking on the weekends and just going to a bus and clocking in and not having to use my brain? 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:05.359 And I'm like, no, of course I don't want to do that. 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:07.920 But that the idea when I walk around. 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:17.119 I think well, the biggest thing, Isha, is everybody else is submitting to the societal structures, right? 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:22.719 Of the matrix of you know, what we what we're told that we can have, right? 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.159 So it can be super seductive. 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:33.119 I walk around this Friday, so I'm gonna experience this again where I walk through the evening and everyone's having their, you know, live for the weekend, experienceful. 00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:38.320 Obviously, in Paris, there's lots of tourists too, but even that, they got their paid time off, right? 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:41.360 They're one time, they're doing their paid time up and off. 00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:51.360 And so I just experience this and I'm like, oh, it looks so fun to just have a pop-off and not have to think about anything and then just go back. 00:34:51.440 --> 00:35:11.440 But then I remember I'm not that kind of person because I know if I did do that, if I did decide, oh, I'll just go back to like a corporate job or something and have that consistency, and you're really being breadcrumbed, I believe, by society versus like really creating your whole damn loaf, right? 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:28.000 And I would just that that feeling around going to bed every day and then waking up a year later, five years later, a decade later, when I'm 60, right? 00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:29.039 Can't walk anymore. 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.039 I'm like, well, who's traveling now? 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:37.360 That scares the shit out of me, right? 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:38.800 Where I'm like, uh-uh. 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:48.639 I know it looks seductive in the here and now when you feel zapped, you're burning your candle at both ends, you're you're doing the thing because it takes work. 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:52.639 It takes work to be an entrepreneur, to carve life by your own path. 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:59.599 Like it is not for the faint of heart, but I really truly believe that if you're not growing, you're dying. 00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:04.480 And what other way do we have to grow in society other than people get out of school, right? 00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:09.920 They they have this like they're leveling up in school in

this way. 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:10.400 Yeah. 00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:17.920 And then they graduate, and then it's like, oh, we don't have anything to learn anymore unless you actually apply yourself to something. 00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:28.079 And I think that's just that's just it right there, is for us to really recognize that that hunger inside of us, it's never gonna go. 00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:34.800 And it's either going to be something that you go to sleep every night realizing you didn't fulfill, right? 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:45.920 And what happens when we don't eat if we're hungry eventually kills us and our kill will kill our soul if we don't actually go after what we really want, even if it's bit by bit. 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:47.760 Yeah, yeah. 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:51.360 Oh that is so powerful. 00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.039 I love that you brought that up. 00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:56.079 I feel like I oh sorry, go on. 00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:56.559 Go ahead. 00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:57.679 No, no, no, go ahead. 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:03.599 I was gonna say, I feel like I wanted to also ask you about this. 00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:20.239 Is my own selfist question, but I wanted to ask you about this aspect of not being in traditional relations because I feel like truly I'm still kind of in this a little bit of gray area because I never thought about marriage or traditional values before. 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:25.119 But there are some things I kind of like about the idea of traditional values, yeah. 00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:29.679 And there's some things I like about the village values. 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:31.440 So I don't know. 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:36.159 I honestly feel like I'm like, okay, I just have to admit that I actually don't know what I want right now. 00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:39.039 And I'm just gonna experience it. 00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:48.639 But I've been on dates with I went on a date with a French man earlier this year, and he was great, he was very sweet, he was very handsome, took me to a lovely place. 00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:57.920 He had an amazing place, he just was stable, consistent, and I was bored as hell, let me tell you. 00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:00.559 I was like, can I really do this? 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:06.639 And then I go to this uh like jazz swing dance thing last weekend. 00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:10.800 And the guy I was really, I was like, ooh, he's gay. 00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:14.159 Actually, he's he's starting to be into women. 00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:21.920 I was like, god damn it, why do I like often I get really intrigued by the ones that have this fluidity in them? 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:23.280 Yes, exactly. 00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:30.719 But then this is the thing, it's like I'm still in this place of like, I really did like, because I actually never okay. 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:31.280 Here's the thing. 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:34.000 This is why the Polarity Academy was so seductive to me. 00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:38.079 Was I never had somebody pay for me for things. 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:41.039 I always had somebody that split everything. 00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:44.079 In fact, I never really allowed myself to even get courted. 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:55.119 So when I started to change that experience, and yeah, men that like really did have that, um they wanted to provide for their family, like that's what drove them. 00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:57.119 I like love that also. 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:24.320 And so when I see uh, you know, the person that's an incredible dancer and such a this is a gay man, well, fluid man, bi man, however you say, and I was like, yeah, but I don't know if I will have that kind of it's not that I want a like provider man to to like help me or fix me, though. 00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:26.000 That's the that's the tricky thing. 00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:33.840 That's the nuance here that I feel like a lot of ambitious women are kind of like, well, I do like the idea of being chosen, right? 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.719 I do kind of like the idea of, you know, I'm the only person for him kind of thing. 00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:41.840 And and I do like the idea that he wants to protect and provide for me. 00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:44.880 But I also like the idea of me being able to do whatever I want. 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:51.199 I also like the idea of me being able to make my own money and make my own decisions and not have to ask permission. 00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:52.079 Like, what do you do? 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:53.039 How do you act? 00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:56.960 Like what, you know, I don't even know what my question is. 00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:19.360 No, and I think that uh what I hear in what you just shared, it's like I think there's there's a lot of um, there's a lot of nuance, there's a lot of depth there because you know, when we talk about being provided for, being cared for, there's so many ways to care for another human. 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:25.440 Um, and we've made a lot of the relationship between men and women about money. 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:50.159 But I think that you know, if you have a partner, let's say you know, he's a he and he makes less than you, but man, does he show up for your emotions or he's like an amazing cook and he just kind of like knows exactly what you want and he just like he just shows up for you, like he can really meet you in the depth of your feelings. 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.599 Like I don't give a fuck if he makes zero dollars. 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:54.719 You know what I mean? 00:40:54.960 --> 00:41:12.159 If he shows up for me, or if he can meet me sexually, and if he can, you know, like yeah, just kind of like meet me in some way that hits one of those desire points, then I'm like, I want you in my life. 00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.119 Like that's that's a good thing to have. 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:22.800 Um but we make a lot of it about money, and I I just don't

think that's I don't think that's necessary. 00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:28.400 I think that if you are a very ambitious person, you have a lot of power. 00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:34.000 Like you I'm speaking directly to you, you clearly have a lot of power. 00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:52.320 And I think that what we're really talking is power, like you want somebody to you want somebody who is in their power and can meet you in that power, maybe in one of these you know, many facets of who you are, maybe not all of them, but certainly in some very important ones, right? 00:41:52.400 --> 00:42:08.880 And I think that that's really what we're talking about is being met in the power, not necessarily like oh, you have to do these things in order to um be in some sort of dynamic that is kind of like it gets old really quick, you know? 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:25.360 But it really is like you know you're a powerful person, and so part of the reason why I I've de-centered men in my life because I am tired of looking for someone who like I just haven't met anyone to kind of meet me in that power. 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:33.199 You know, I just I'm and I'm kind of like I think that for a while I was when I was married, I really wanted a spiritual partnership. 00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:43.679 I really wanted to experience like I want to grow with another person, and I, you know, I really want to um yeah, like build something together. 00:42:43.920 --> 00:43:07.519 And what I realized through my healing process and specifically the years that I was in somatic in my somatic training was that I was growing, I was having a spiritual partnerships with a lot of people, me, like namely everybody in that program I had a spiritual partnership with, and I wasn't sleeping with them, but there was growth happening, and I was like, this does not need to happen in a romantic partnership. 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:16.880 In fact, all the growth I'm experiencing is happening outside of a sexual relationship, and in my sexual relationship, I feel stagnant. 00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:21.199 And so that is what really started opening up for me. 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:30.480 Like, like I call myself a relationship anarchist because I don't necessarily believe in putting romantic partnerships above friendships, for example. 00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:43.199 Because now the friendships that I have in my life are deeply transformative, they fulfill that I get to fulfill the need for growth, the need and desire for growth and evolution. 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.639 I get to experience that in all of these different relationships. 00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:59.760 I don't necessarily um, you know, have romantic uh inclinations in those relationships, but they, you know, we have ruptures and we do repair processes and we get vulnerable. 00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:05.039 And we cry together, like it is it is the growth that I want, and I got what I want. 00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:09.039 I just didn't know that that's the

form it was going to come in, you know. 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:44.159 So and and most of it has been with women, and I don't I don't think of myself as a lesbian, um, but that's just how it's turned out to be, and I've kind of more accepted that that's kind of like, oh yeah, and it's in my astrology too, and I didn't even know it, but it's like, oh yeah, you're gonna be all up in non-traditional relationships, and I'm like, okay, but I think that I there was a part of me that always kind of wanted the I I wanna be able to fit, I wanna be able to kind of fit into that mold, and you know, the universe was like, no, you're not, you're not going to do that. 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.679 I love that, I love that you also call it decentralizing men. 00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:56.159 This term hasn't even come up in my life until this year, and I'm like, where has this term been my whole life? 00:44:56.400 --> 00:45:11.280 Because I made that mistake, I did not put any effort in, like, well, I shouldn't say any, but truly in my long-term relationships, there was very, very, very little sisterhood outside of that. 00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:17.760 All of our friends were our friends, and it was like I didn't even want to go out unless I had him. 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:22.880 Like my nervous system was so attached to this codependency in this. 00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:52.159 And, you know, I can see how that has that's taken precedent of me feeling like even having a hard time even receiving friendships in other community because if I didn't have uh a partner, you know, like an actual man with me in that I'm in a sexual relationship with, but for some reason there was so much value on that when there was actually so much beauty in my life that I'm now starting to finally be like, oh my God, I actually am so fulfilled in all of these ways. 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:58.000 And I was so busy, just like feeling so attached to finding this in this one person, right? 00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:04.800 Which also puts a lot of pressure on, you know, just so much disappointment with so many dates going on, right? 00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:06.480 And I'm like, oh my goodness. 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:10.639 And I just feel like the pressure valve is just off now. 00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:13.599 Now that I've been like, you know what, I'm not even gonna try. 00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:20.000 I'm gonna just allow myself to just literally be and experience each relation one by one. 00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:24.800 Even the guy that I mentioned, I told him, I was like, I just want to let you know. 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:27.840 I've wanted to eat you the whole night. 00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:34.239 Even though I was like, but I'm aware that you are into men. 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:42.000 It's like I'm actually seeing a woman right now, but we might be breaking it up. 00:46:42.079 --> 00:47:02.000 I'm like, oh and I know that he's also like open and fluid too, but I just allowed myself to do that because I was like, there was just so many rules that like got placed on my on myself from my own experience of feeling that attachment to needing that one person and fulfilling that. 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:06.320 And but then also with the polarity academy, too, and like what's right or wrong. 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:14.480 I mean, even just initiating that kind of thing would have been like totally anti-polarity, you know, academy rules. 00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:19.599 And living like that is so much more fun. 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:26.480 It actually puts me so much more in that seat of power because again, you're going with what your desires and what you feel in the moment. 00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:30.639 Yes, regardless of if it fits the status quo. 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:35.920 If it fits your actual life and fulfillment, you're actually then truly creating a life by design. 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:43.360 And I realized that of all the aspects of my life, I was like, wow, this is an area where I wasn't actually embodying creating my life by design. 00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:49.360 Because how do I design my own fulfilling life and community and relationships? 00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:49.840 Exactly. 00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.320 And I'm still exploring that and still figuring that out. 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.360 But it's like, yeah, there's no right or wrong for that. 00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:05.199 I know there's so much noise on social media around the moment I hear someone go, uh, this is how you attract a masculine man or this is how you'd be more feminine. 00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:10.000 I'm like, block, block, I can't do it, don't do it. 00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:22.320 And yeah, I'm just really grateful that we had this conversation today because I know so many women are going to love so many aspects of the mirrors within this conversation. 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:39.679 Like as we were talking about before, we went into relationships because it's also related to money and how we really go after our arrows and our desire and how we're actually willing to receive the fullness of creating that life fully of the spectrum of design. 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:44.159 And that's what it means to be sovereign, and that's what it ultimately means to be free. 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:59.679 And for the women who are listening to this, if you know that you have been in that space of you desire that freedom, what areas of your life can you actually start to really own and embody that by actually living that now? 00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:05.840 You don't actually have to wait until some arbitrary someday, someday is not on the calendar, by the way. 00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:09.440 It goes Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:12.880 Sunday, not someday, okay? 00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.559 And how can you actually live that now? 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:22.000 Because bit by bit you start to actually uncover and discover these

layers of yourself. 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:29.360 And what we wanted to do was really just illuminate and shine some light, maybe give you a bit of a permission slip, not that you needed it. 00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:34.159 But let's be honest, when we see the example, right, we start to realize, oh, that's possible. 00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:35.199 Oh, that's possible. 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.039 So we would love to hear from you. 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.400 Isha, where can you can people actually find you? 00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:48.079 So if someone's resonating with this conversation who wants to like reach out to you and tell you what they loved, where can they actually connect with you? 00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:55.679 I think um if on social media, I have a YouTube channel, Instagram, and Facebook. 00:49:55.840 --> 00:50:01.199 Um, on Instagram and YouTube, I am waking up underscore wealthy. 00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:08.159 Um, I also have a podcast called Waking Up Wealthy, and um I have a couple of things that you can download. 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:16.880 Um and because I work in finance and wealth, uh, wealth strategy, I have um two things you can download. 00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:28.639 One of them is a way, like a system to organize your finances that is really um it really is sort of like matriarchal and it really is focused on doing it with your nervous system. 00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:42.239 This is for you know the money avoidant person who wants to build a six-figure business and beyond and wants to do it in a way that feels really like really rooted and uh yeah, that feels really good. 00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:45.519 Like 10-step process, nervous system checks the whole thing. 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:55.360 And then I have another um, another PDF that is really like if you're like want to say fuck it to the system and like buy a farm and create like a like the the matriarchy, the financial matriarchy. 00:50:55.519 --> 00:51:12.480 I have a document that takes you through the whole process, like step by step, um, with like OCD level organization of like one month one to month three, you're gonna be doing this and you're gonna be creating a council of grandmothers and you're gonna be implementing these, you know, these pieces of the financial new financial systems. 00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.239 So those are the ways that people can um work me the work with me. 00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:26.719 And obviously, if you are in the United States, I will gladly sit with you and do a financial strategy session with you and see, you know, get you from where you are to where you want to be. 00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:42.800 Um, and you know, one thing I want to leave people with if that if it is okay, um, is to really give yourself permission to like please don't ever say it's too late for you because I left the United States at age 51. 00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:50.000 Right, and for most people, that is like that is old, you're over the hill, you know, all this type of stuff. 00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:55.679 But it's like, no, this is like the beginning of my life, and I get to define it as the beginning of my life. 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:59.360 Um the rules are all made up. 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:08.719 The rules are all made up, so you might as well make up your own and decide, like, okay, I'm gonna decide that this is like this is the perfect age to do such and such, right? 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:17.599 Like, don't limit yourself to you know, um, oh, I have children, I can't do that, or my children are in school or they'll miss their friends. 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:18.320 You know what? 00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:28.880 My children hated moving abroad the first year, and I said, we're gonna do this anyway, because if I don't fulfill this dream, I will be miserable and angry, and I will not be a good mother to you. 00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:43.280 So sometimes we have to make decisions that displease other people because we have to please ourselves first, because our pleasure feeds a community, it feeds your family, it feeds a community, and so it's okay to prioritize it. 00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:50.400 Oh girl, I know a lot of people needed to hear those last few lines, that's for sure. 00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:52.400 I can think of a few. 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:54.960 Thank you so much. 00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:57.599 This has been so beautiful. 00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:06.000 I knew it was going to be so beautiful, and as it is, like, really let's team up with all the women around the world who are decentralizing men. 00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:08.079 Let's call it centralizing women too. 00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:13.519 It's like exactly centralizing desire and like freedom, liberation. 00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:14.880 Exactly. 00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:18.159 It's like we we really get to have our cake and eat it too. 00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:25.440 And uh it gets to be gluten-free, it gets to be, you know, all of the things with your favorite frosting, your favorite decor. 00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:28.000 It's like whatever it is that you make it to be. 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:32.159 And I'm just so happy that we got to have this beautiful conversation today. 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:38.719 So anyone who feels a beautiful resonance with this, reach out to Isha, reach out to myself. 00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:46.719 We would love to hear what resonated with you, what stood out, what are you excited to implement and actually move forward and make some big changes? 00:53:46.880 --> 00:54:06.320 I feel like this is going to be one that I'm gonna be sharing with a lot of women over the test of time as they uh yeah, move into those day two challenges of taking that leap and recognizing that there's a whole heap of other women who have done it too, and there's a safety net there that we've learned how to create ourselves and we were able to do that no matter what. 00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:09.039 So thank you so much, my dear. 00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:12.880 Have a beautiful rest of your day, everyone, and we'll see you next time. 00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:14.320 Bye-bye. 00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:22.000 Thank you for your continued presence within the Reclamation Era podcast. 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:32.719 If you love this episode, subscribe and leave a review because at the end of the day, the more people we can empower in this world to empower themselves, the better. 00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:44.320 And if at any point you feel called to explore the global legacy pathway I've chosen to own my voice, wealth, and work, my signature masterclass is in the show notes. 00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:46.480 As above, so below. 00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:48.079 See you next time.