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Enjoy your exploration. Hello and good morning, you two. How
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are you doing?
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So good.
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How are you? Well, I'm very.
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Excited to share a conversation with you because the Rainmaker
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is every bit the reason why people have conversations at
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grocery stores, because everybody wants to know what everybody's binge watching. And,
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you know, we're going to be talking about this with
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our own interpretation.
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All right. I love to hear it.
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What is that like for you to be? Basically, I
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always look at this as being the modern day music
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of this generation because we used to go to record
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stores to get stories about songs and stuff. Nowadays, those
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stories are found in things like The Rainmaker and that
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is the conversation starter.
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Hey, water cooler talk is what's up because we're.
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Tackling subject matter.
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Our cases are relevant, necessary, and whenever we are able to...
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you know, talk, offer something that starts conversation, maybe spark
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social change, um, and, and just gets people juicing at that,
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at that water cooler. Um, I, I think we're doing
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something that is worth your time and, uh, also entertaining.
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So yeah, get to talking y'all.
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Well, And it's the writing and it's the acting. It's
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the production. There's I mean, we we have really got
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we've set up our own standards when it comes to
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shows like this. And we're going, OK, I better have this,
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this and this. And you guys live that and beyond.
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I mean, it is what we're talking about.
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And we feel really, really lucky. Our writers on the
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show are fantastic. Truthfully, every single actor that we work with,
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everyone comes to play every single day.
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And the material is not easy.
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You know, it's legal jargon and we live in this
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world of these meaty eight page scenes. And so we
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as the actor, we're so excited when we get to
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read these scripts for the first time.
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And I think you can feel it when we watch, too.
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It's it's there's so much time and energy and it's
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so it's put into it and it's so precious to us.
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And I think we we think we make a really
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great show, too. You know, it's all we want is
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for people to enjoy it as well as we do.
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I love the fact that you talk about how everybody
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comes together with the legal jargon and stuff like that, because,
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I mean, even as a voiceover actor, what I mean,
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I'll get that stuff on scripts and I'm going, I
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have no idea what I'm talking about. And you've got
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to do your homework. You've got to get someone to
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explain it to you. So at least somebody will believe
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what it is you're sharing.
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Well, Merle is the queen of homework.
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She actually understands everything that she's saying. She's the most
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impressive woman in the world.
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It's an, and actually it's a really good education.
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Some of these cases that we have to, you know,
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spout off as, as the hard evidence to back our
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argument is, are so deliciously applicable to the storyline. And
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I think it's worthwhile sometimes people to know, hey, how
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are these laws created?
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And to what purpose?
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And what sacrifices were made to build these laws? So
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I find it fascinating, actually, the fact that Amanda is
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so smart and so is Sarah. I think that's why
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Amanda really recognizes game in her.
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Because she's like, oh, this is not.
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Somebody who is just a pawn.
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This is not somebody who is just, you know, a
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tool in her toolbox there. This is a formidable young, um,
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And I think she sees another woman that she really
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wants to support.
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What is it like to do a show like this?
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Because you know what's going on out here in the
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real world. We're all sleuths. We all think we've got
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this thing solved already. And our imaginations are sitting here,
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even though Grisham has something to do with all this.
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The thing about it is we're trying to out Grisham Grisham. And, and,
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and how, I mean, as the actors and those bringing
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the story forward, I always want to feel like that.
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You guys are saying, calm down. You guys aren't getting
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it right. Just calm down. We'll get you the story
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here in a little bit. Just calm down.
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Yeah.
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I love out the Christian, the Christian. I don't know
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if that's possible, you know.
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But, but it is, it's, it's, and we get to
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experience it too. The, one of the greatest things about
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the show is we get the scripts before we get started.
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We get all 10.
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So we have this whole journey that we're getting to
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see from, throughout filming where some television shows you'll get
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episodes sort of as you go and you don't really
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know what's happening next as the actor. So it's a
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treat for us to be able to have all this
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source material from the beginning. Um, but this season in particular, I,
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every single episode was a page turner where I wasn't
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even sure where it was going to go or what
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decision this character was going to make. And, um, we
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kind of, as the actors were always on like the
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edge of our seat.
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So, you know, I'd be curious to see, I've seen
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some theories online.
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I'm not going to say anything else, but the theories
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are fun though.
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Keep them coming, you know.
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Please don't move. There's more on the way with Madison
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Iceman and Merle Dandridge coming up next. It's found on
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the USA Network. We're talking about The Rainmaker. We're back
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with Madison Iceman and Merle Dandridge. Talking about people that
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really do get into the storyline and they experience it,
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but also like we were talking about in the way
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of that they like to write the story beforehand. But
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you're living it and vicariously we're living through you. And
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I don't know what that's like for you, Madison and Merle,
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in the way of just that you are our eyes.
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You are the air that we're breathing. And for some reason,
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we're stuck to that TV and can't unstick ourselves.
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I love that. That means that we're doing it right.
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That means that, you know, the moral ambiguity, that the
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deep meaning in the storytelling, and then also just visually,
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the show is beautiful. And I think that's something that
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is new to this season and to the Grisham universe
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is that, you know, we film in Ireland and the
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fact that we are able to That.
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We're able to really show it this year.
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If you've seen the last episode, we actually get a
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chance to show off this beautiful, soulful country that has
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really taken such good care of us.
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I'll bet you that's the reason why people here in
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Carolina speak so highly of this because of the Irish roots,
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because we're Irish and Scottish in this section part of
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the world. And it's just when we see the lay
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of the land and we hear the stories and things
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like that, Yes, it embraces our roots is what it does.
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And maybe that's the secret to this is that it's
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that old fashioned writing style done in a modern way
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where we're going, oh yeah, that's me.
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And with a twist, you know, I also have to
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say like.
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For my part to come in as in the second
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season as a partner on a very formidable white glove,
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ironclad behind closed doors kind of kind of character and
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to have, you know, a woman.
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Of color leading that is, is really.
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Like fresh to me and astonishing and beautiful. And I,
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and I really enjoyed the way that they've, they've kind of,
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melded her into this universe, which is great.
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Does it inspire either of you to pick up a
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writing instrument and want to write a book as well?
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Something that has the ups, the downs, the twists, the spins,
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the cliffhangers, because you're living it with that camera in
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front of you. I would love to see you put
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it on a page and let us live it through
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that way as well.
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I mean, I'm obsessed with stories. I have been my
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whole life. I've always got a book in my hand.
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I'm always immersed in something. I love to write.
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So I mean, that's sort of I live, breathe, eat stories.
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So that's kind of always where my head's at. Yeah.
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I mean, a book is a big feat, though. You
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realize that. A book takes a lot of time. That's
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always been a dream of mine.
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Having to deal with editors and publishers and, oh, my God,
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we want to put this on Netflix or the USA Network. OK,
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let's do it then. More work on the way.
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Yeah.
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Where can people go we want to keep doing this
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show though we have we have more seasons to do
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hopefully fingers crossed.
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Well i hope so and then in all honesty it
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takes the fans to put it there doesn't it they've
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got to participate and they've got to get the word
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out there they've got to become influencers in their own right.
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That's right And fortunately, we have some real hardcore fans
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and and people who are really loyal to the to
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the Grisham IP. And I hope that they feel seen
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in this this new.
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Departure from from those original stories.
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Where can people go to find out more about everything
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that you guys are doing? Because I want them to
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be more than just somebody who's coming in for the storyline.
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I want them to embrace the actors that are making
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it happen.
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You can find me at all socials at Merle Dandridge.
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I'm just a good old Madison Isman.
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You can just find us everywhere.
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We're all over.
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And we're also on USA Network 10 p.m.
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On Fridays.
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Please come back to this show anytime in the future.
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The door is always going to be open for you guys.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much.
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Be brilliant today, OK?
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You be brilliant, too.
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Yeah.