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but if you are somebody like a family that does want a little bit of structure or maybe even just like needs a break to send their kids to something while you're focusing on your own thing, I mean, this could be an option.
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This is World Schooling Q&A.
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I'm Astrid, creator of The Wandering Daughter.
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As a traveling family, we've spent four years traveling full-time to over 18 countries and six continents.
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Wherever we go, we try to learn as much as we can about the countries and cultures we visit.
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While we didn't coin the term, we like to call this world schooling, using the world as our classroom.
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Each week, my husband Clint and I will answer one question about world schooling and share our experiences of traveling the world with our kids.
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Ready to get started?
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Great!
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Let's dive in.
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This week, we are answering the question, how can we find world schooling groups or meetups in different countries?
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Great.
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We get asked this quite a bit.
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In fact, I think there's usually a lot of questions of like, there should just be one index that has all these.
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The problem is they're constantly changing and flying.
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And we'll talk a little bit more about that when we get to like the world schooling hubs.
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I guess what's the easiest way to start finding world-schooling stuff?
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Well, I mean, you speak about having an index and stuff, and it's so true.
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I mean, I have an article on my site that's about world-schooling resources, so it's not just...
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It's just resources that would be helpful for somebody that's wanting to world school, but I do have a section in there that's talking about the hubs and the meetups.
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I'm constantly having to update those because there's always new ones that show up or new groups and things.
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That's a good resource for finding groups and stuff, but I think
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Another good resource in general is Facebook.
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I mean, Facebook groups galore exist on the topic of world-schooling.
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Yeah, just type in world-schooling Turkey, for example, or world-schooling Spain, or world-schooling... And just, there'll be resources that pop up.
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And that's over the last five-ish years or so, there's just been a huge explosion of world-schooling
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groups all around the world.
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Yeah, I mean, so there are like some small world schooling Facebook groups, but what are some of the major ones?
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And when I say major, I feel like it's like at least thousands of members.
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I think the biggest one or one of the biggest ones is Project World School.
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I think that one has, last I checked, something like 13,000 members or maybe even more than that.
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It's got probably one of the most active
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conversations going on.
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That one's great because there's so many people posting about how I mean, honestly, it's like kind of what we're talking about in this podcast, like, how do I get started world scoring?
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Or do you do for work?
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And there's so many questions that come out of that.
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That one's created by Lainey Liberty and she's been world-schooling.
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She's also another one of those OG world-schooling parents.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I think another big one is World-Schooling Central created by or run by Karen King.
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That's a good resource for world-schoolers just wanting to get started and finding a community.
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Yeah, we don't mention it on here, but there's a bunch of like world school pop-up ones.
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There's like world school pop-up Bali.
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There's things like that.
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Those are great ones.
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You have listed here, We Are World Scores is another one.
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What about a couple more?
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Another one, and this is run by a woman that's a friend of ours, is Trailblazing Families.
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And this one,
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It's run by Liz Quain and she's focused on like, you know, or the group is not just like world schooling, but like digital nomad families too.
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So that's a good resource.
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And she does a lot.
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She's pretty active with like doing Facebook lives and stuff too.
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So I think that's a good one to join.
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I would also say to join my Facebook group, Responsible Family Travel, also known as World Schoolers Traveling Sustainably.
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If you search that up on Facebook,
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You'll be able to find it.
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And that group, my group specifically is, um, focused on, you know, the sustainable and,
uh, responsible travel aspect of, um, world schooling and how we can be, uh, more mindful of our impact as travelers.
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Cool.
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Well, so beyond groups, what's another way that you can find meetups or groups around the country?
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Yeah, so like actually within those Facebook groups, I think that there are people that will like share their world schooling hubs or meetups and things like that that are happening.
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So I wanted to spend like the latter part of this episode kind of talking specifically about certain hubs and meetups.
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I think the one that we personally have participated in and we really enjoyed was Anahata.
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And that's a group or sorry, that's, um, she's got her, it's run by Patty, a woman named Patty, and she has her own like, you know, Facebook group as well.
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But it's a world schooling community in
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in Mexico.
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Mostly Yucatan Peninsula exclusively.
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It's bounced around a bit but it's all been like in Yucatan Peninsula.
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Yes, what did you like about that community when we did it?
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Yes, I think there's one caveat about it.
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It's evolved in many different ways.
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Our experience is not what she does now necessarily.
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Yes, that's true.
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I think there's a caveat there.
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You really have to go and look up her existing offering and see what it's like.
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What we got out of it, which a lot of the World Scoring Hubs now try to offer, is basically just a community living in the same area, and not kind of co-housing, but not really, because we shared meals together, like all the meals.
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In our situation, the kids had an on-site school that they would go to, but throughout the day, we'd do things like
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yoga or meditation or communication or fitness, just various activities throughout the day while people also work and stuff.
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So it's just kind of a co-living with some sort of structure built around it.
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But the thing I loved about it most was just the community.
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Other families there, the kids wake up in the morning and there's other kids that are automatically out there playing.
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So that was in set in Mexico.
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So the thing she does a lot now too, is she focuses heavily on involving the local Akpalum community.
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So a lot of the Mayan community that's part of that region.
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And she involves, part of hers is like sharing the cultural experience of how they live and what they do and stuff like that.
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So that's a really good one.
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Yeah, you're right.
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Like it has, uh, her program has evolved over the years.
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Um, and I do appreciate because, you know, Patty is Mexican.
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And so this is, it feels like there is like care and intention about like connecting with like local Mexican culture or, um, immerse immersing, uh, in Mexican culture that, uh, I really appreciated when we were there.
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Yeah, cool.
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What about another one?
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So another one that's kind of show or that's on our like, what do you call it?
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Awareness, and friends have done this too, is the world school pop-up hubs.
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And this is kind of so
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In the past, we've done world school pop-up communities where it's like a full-on program.
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You jump in and then the organizers are organizing this whole program and coordinating logistics and things like that.
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I feel like it's a lot of stress.
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I think back to when there used to be these pop-up communities called Stone Soup,
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I remember talking to the lady who was running it and there's a lot of things that go into learning that.
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The one that we participated in had like 35 families taking part and it was like programming during the week.
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What I like about these pop-up hubs and it's run by this woman named Rachel.
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She started it but
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actually families can choose to host a week, to be a host for a pop-up hub for a week.
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And it can be, like these take place anywhere in the world.
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Like if you have an idea to host a pop-up hub in Mexico, then pitch it to Rachel and then she can help you with planning it.
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But the planning part,
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is less stressful, in my opinion, than somebody putting on a full-on program.
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Because she takes some of the logistics of that away from you, right?
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Well, that and it's more just like, you come up with some activities to do as a group, and then the rest of the time is just like you can
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the families are who are participating have a little bit more flexibility.
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It's
not like you have to do this is the program from 9am to 6pm.
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It's like, Oh, no, every day this week, there's going to be like one or two activities that we'll do.
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And you're welcome to join or you're welcome not to.
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But you know, it's just like, flexible in that way.
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I think that harkens back to, I remember when we used to do the Family Adventure Summit stuff, and then we'd stick around for a month after in the cities that it happened.
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We'd just stay connected to the families that were there and be like,
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What are you guys doing?
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Oh, you're going to, like, when we were in Ubud, oh, you're going to Titi Batu, like, you know, to hang out.
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Like, let's let's go meet up with you there.
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So, yeah.
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And what's nice now is anyone you talk to in the world's growing community is going to know of
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another hub or another meetup like it's there.
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So common now when we were doing it, there was.
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It was not as common, so a lot of us were searching for them, but they didn't really exist where they were hard to find.
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But now it's like it feels like everyone you talk to they've been to or know of other ones, so then it kind of helps with that.
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We have some more listed here, but I think before we go into these like.
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The world's going pop up or the world's going hub and the pop up hubs and stuff.
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It's it.
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It's been kind of a ongoing evolving thing over the last several years.
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There's a lot of interest in them.
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A lot of people have tried to do them.
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Like you said earlier, though, there's a lot of logistics.
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There's a lot of money involved.
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There's a lot of trust and a lot of things.
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So some succeed, some fail, some do it for a year or two.
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and then go away.
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The ones we're going to mention here, I think ones have been around for at least a few times.
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So chances are they'll be around for a little bit longer.
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But don't be surprised.
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Like you mentioned Family Adventure Summit.
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That's how we first started world scoring.
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That was a conference.
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It was like a weekend or week long conference.
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They did it for three years.
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It was absolutely wonderful, but it was too many logistics, too expensive.
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And eventually they stopped doing it.
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And so.
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Even Lainey would put together her Project World School summits.
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That was several years.
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There were several years where she did that.
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Even she has since moved on to other types of activities or events.
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Yes.
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Anyways, it just goes to say,
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Do your research on the ones that you see or you hear about.
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Don't be afraid to try to poke around to see if anyone's gone to them.
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Try to get in touch with the host.
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It's a slightly unstable ground right now as far as where all these... And that's not to say that anyone's malicious or anything like that.
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It's just these are hard things to put on.
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And so I...
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tip my hat to anyone who's trying to trying to do a hub.
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But they are hard.
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And so just do some research and ask around around these.
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But the ones we're going to mention are ones we've heard of that have been around for a little while.
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They tend to have a little bit more structure to them.
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So yeah, good ones to try.
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And just in full transparency, we haven't done each of these personally, but we know people who have done them.
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So that's why I feel like it's important to mention them here.
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Well, I'll do the wall.
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Yeah, I can do the first one.
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Yeah, sure.
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So the first one is called Forever Wild.
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It's based in Southeast Asia and Africa.
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And they do like enrichment activities, community dinners, field trips, that kind of stuff.
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This one, I think, has some sort of structure to it.
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It's a little bit looser than I think the next one we're going to mention.
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But it's been around for at least a couple of years.
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And they we've seen several of them pop up over the years.
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We haven't we've yet to attend them We know a couple people have attended them So it seems like a good one to maybe research if that if those country or those Regions or something that seemed interesting Africans, right?
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Yeah, and I think what I You know what?
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I was learning about them is you know, the days are it it's sort of like
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a few hours a day of community time, community learning time and stuff.
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If you're a radical unschooler, maybe these types of programs aren't the kind of thing for you, but if you are somebody like a family that does want a little bit of structure or maybe even just needs
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a break to send their kids to something while you're while you're, you know, focusing on your own thing.
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I mean, this could be this could be an option.
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And this one I can't remember.
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I think this one had shorter stay options to you, right?
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Yeah, I think so.
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It was like, oh, they had one-week programs and two-week programs.
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And they have some longer ones, too.
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World Scoring Pop-Up is a one-week one.
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That's a short one.
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Anahata, she likes it to be a month or longer.
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Or longer, yeah.
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Sometimes like three months.
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It doesn't mean that the long ones are opposed to taking shorter, but it really
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It's hard for the program to cater to both short term and long term.
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So they tend to cater towards one or the other.
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Yeah.
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So if you're that might help you decide your research or if you reach out to the host and just say,
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hey, I really want to be somewhere for three months.
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How is your program support that?
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Because the other thing you don't want is you don't want to go to a program that's geared more towards one or two weeks and then you stay there for three months because it might be repetitive or it might get boring or it might be not challenging.
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Whereas you don't really want to go to one that's geared towards a month or longer and you're only there for a week because
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They're gonna like be doing very slow introduction stuff in the first week And then yeah, then you're leaving.
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So yeah, so it's just something to keep in mind.
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Uh, what about the next one the next one?
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Um, I want to mention is the hive.
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Um, they have a program in the dominican republic and then also in spain and um when we were first intro or when I first heard about the hive it was uh like
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few years ago, but I think that the program has evolved over the years.
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We had some friends who did the program and enjoyed it.
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Now, one of the things that they have is this six-week program that's focused on learning based off of the Sustainable Development Goals, the SDGs, which are like
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UN goals for, you know, international development by 2030.
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I think that was, that's one of the things and being somebody who is like very, you know, socially conscious, I think that is something that I like is this idea of like,
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Oh, we're learning, but we're also learning about how we fit within like the global community and how we fit within a global aspect.
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And this particular program is like, you know, you spend the first week kind of learning about yourself and then the next few weeks designing a project that might have like a global impact.
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And then, you know, the last week is about presenting your project.
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it definitely seems like it's more structured.
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Yeah.
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And we haven't done it yet.
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But yeah, it seems like it's more structured.
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But at the same time, it is like, I think if you're the type of family that likes to have that, that would it would in a community setting, you know, I think that would be helpful.
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Yeah, it'd be good.
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So the last one we have here, I'm actually unfamiliar with, so I might just let you talk about this one.
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Yeah, this one, again, I'd heard about this world school hub.
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It's called Deliberate Detour.
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again, what draws me to them is their like, focus on like, deep diving into a culture.
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So they're only located in, they only have programs in Oaxaca, Mexico, and Cusco, Peru.
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And they hire like local teachers and local like,
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guy, like people that are like from those communities to share about the
culture and teach about it.
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And then the program is like two to three weeks.
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There's like structured daily activities and then like field trips as well.
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But I, I really appreciate like the cultural immersion aspect of it.
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Yeah.
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And it's like,
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based off of like local knowledge and not, not just, you know, somebody that is like, their
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for a short period of time that's putting something together.
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There's pros and cons of each of them.
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As a family, as you're choosing what kind of world-schooling hub or community to join, you have to think about how does it fit with your personal values too.
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Can I be the grumpy OG guy for just a second?
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So I think there's been a tendency to think that World Scoring is only these hubs.
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These hubs are fairly new in the World Scoring world.
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only the last few years that they've actually stabilized in any way.
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Some of these, not all, but some of these have actually stabilized in any way.
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But for the last five plus years, they didn't really exist.
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Or if they existed, they existed in very small pockets, very specific groups.
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And so most of us from kind of our generation of world's going and the ones before us,
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just traveled, just literally traveled full-time with their kids, did what we call world-schooling, which we talked about that in our first episode of teaching the kids as we go, using learning opportunities throughout the world.
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That's really what world-schooling is.
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These hubs are fantastic.
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I think they're a great way for people to go
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if they're feeling hesitant anyway or don't know how to get started or just want to target to get started but by no means is this represent all of world's going and not even i wouldn't even say the only way to yeah the only way it's not it's not the only way
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So I think, you know, use these as a way, a possible way to do world scoring when you do your research, but know that it's like, literally it's just traveling, traveling with your family and using learning opportunities.
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So it's not, it doesn't have to be these things.
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And the other thing, the reason I kind of want to say that is too, because I think people there, and we've seen this a lot in the Facebook groups,
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They'll want to world school and then they'll look at some of these programs and see how expensive they are because they're expensive to run.
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A lot of these are really expensive to run.
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Then they get turned off and then they're like, oh, I guess I can't world school because I can't go to one of these hubs.
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That's not the case at all.
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It is absolutely not the case.
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Yes, it takes a certain amount of privilege and it takes a certain amount of income or gumption, I guess, to do it.
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but you don't need to put up the kind of cash that these world's going hubs require in order to do it.
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Um, so yeah, yeah, I think you have to sort of, again, what I was saying is like balance out like the value that you think you'll gain from, you know, the world's schooling hubs that you, uh, participate in and also, um,
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your own personal values or your own personal goals of why you're world schooling in the first place.
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you know, we tend to be as a family, we tend to be more independent.
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And like, you know, we're just going to do our own thing.
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If the stars in line and there's another family in the city that we're at, then we'll hang out with them.
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But, you know, we're still going to do our own thing.
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And so we have, we have participated in some of these world schooling hubs, like, you know,
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throughout our travels, but it's definitely not like, uh, our.
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It's not our priority.
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It's like, okay, we'll do it if it makes sense to us or if it aligns with our travel schedule.
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We're not adjusting our travel for the most part.
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Sometimes we are, but for the most part, we're not adjusting or planning our travels to go from hub to hub to hub to hub.
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They're nice.
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They just end up being sprinkled variations into our experience.
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I think that's the thing.
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And I think the other thing is with the world's going up, you just also have to make sure your expectations are set correctly.
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You have to understand the complexity of this and not go into it thinking this is a polished, all-inclusive resort, because it's not going to be.
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And so you need to adjust expectations based on that, regardless of what the sales page says.
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I think you need to set expectations.
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And the other expectation, and this is one of the reasons why I think we probably don't go hub to hub to hub, is because even the ones that are culturally immersive, you're still a group within this culture.
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So you're still kind of coming at it from like an outside, like an outside group.
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So it's still got this little bit of like a tourist group, tour group mentality.
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And that's just the way it is.
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So we still really prefer
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living in an apartment or home in a residential area, and just like living life as if we were there.
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And so that's our style.
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So if that resonates with you, that's great.
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If the world's going south, the hubs resonate with you, that's great.
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Or if a mixture, that's great.
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Yeah, I just want to make sure that we're, we're
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establishing that there's multiple ways to do this.
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And before you join one of them, you know, talk to people that have done it.
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It's to see if they can give you like a candid, you know, a candid experience.
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They can give their candid opinions of the experience that they had.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and now I forgot what I was gonna say, but.
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I'm sorry, I talked too much.
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No, no, no, no.
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With that said, we have met some really great families.
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We've made some very close friends just from like these world schooling hub experiences.
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And so those are like,
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Those are why we would still suggest, if you're a family that's curious about world schooling, that's why we would suggest, consider one of the hubs as an introduction too.
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Anything else you want to mention?
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No, that's it.
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All right, great.
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Well, that's all for today.
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