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00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:53.840 Wow, I can't think. 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:57.599 Like, I wanted to be a celebrity because I love celebrities. 00:03:57.759 --> 00:03:59.599 I think they're some of the coolest people. 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:04.400 Um, but I'm not, I'm like, I don't know, like, would I want to talk to Beyonce for an hour? 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:07.280 Like, no offense, I don't think she'd be like that fun on the phone. 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:17.279 Yeah, you I think Lady Gaga would be fun on the phone and being able to like ask her about her references and her fashions and her song uh like writing and all that stuff. 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:18.240 Yeah. 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:25.279 Um maybe like a comedian and cars getting coffee? 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:26.079 Yeah, yeah. 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:27.360 Marcelo Hernandez. 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:28.639 Oh, so uh okay. 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:30.639 It does it count as a date, yeah. 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:32.160 Yeah, it could be a phone date. 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:35.519 Okay, Dave Franco and Marcelo Hernandez three-way call. 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:38.639 Did you ever do a phone date during like COVID? 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:39.360 Yes. 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:40.639 Tell me about it. 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:42.160 Oh boy, did I? 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:49.439 Um I uh well, there was this one person that I went on a date with like right before COVID. 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:52.240 Yeah, and so we were like talking a lot, yeah. 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:54.959 Um, and we were talking like every day. 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:57.600 We were also sexting. 00:04:57.839 --> 00:04:58.560 We were not dating. 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:00.240 Oh, we were sexting. 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:01.920 Face time sexting. 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:05.519 You were taking explicit photos and videos, yes. 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:07.680 And how are you sharing those digitally? 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:09.519 I I don't know, like the cloud. 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:10.720 Like I don't know how it all works. 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:11.839 Yeah. 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:14.160 Um, but yeah. 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:19.680 Um then I'm trying to think about oh, I did go, I did do that. 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:21.040 I did like FaceTime dates. 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:21.759 Fucking weird. 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:23.439 There was this You're pathetic. 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:25.680 Try my fucking best. 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:30.639 Um it remember that one guy that I went on a date with. 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:32.000 I went on two dates with him. 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:35.040 He was like grew up like super religious Jew. 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:38.879 Yeah, and then and I found now this is gonna be offensive as well. 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:39.600 Say it. 00:05:39.839 --> 00:06:06.480 I have found that boys that boys, men that grew up really religious uh Jew, like really conservative or conservadox, even uh, they because men, Jewish men in that kind

of religion are uh raised to be like treated kind of like a king, yeah, and also like you are going to have a wife and they're basically gonna like serve you. 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:06.720 Yeah. 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:09.279 And like whatever you want from your wife is gonna happen. 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:09.839 Right. 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:23.680 And they treat when they become gay and they like remove themselves from the religion, they still have that vibe where they expect to be treated like a prince by their gay lover. 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:26.879 Yeah, and they're used to being treated like a princess. 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:29.199 Yes, right, a princess of Genobia. 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:35.360 Yeah, they are and yeah, so that I went on a phone date with that guy. 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:37.839 Like, we had gone on two dates, but I'm like, you know what? 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:40.879 He now like started taking peptides and he looks amazing. 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:46.879 Oh so and and people can grow and change, yeah, and bodies can grow, and bodies can grow and change, and it certainly did. 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:50.079 Yeah, and so I he reached out to me, I was like, let's go on a date. 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:51.600 It was fucking horrible. 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:52.079 Wow. 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:56.800 My roommate was like in the other room and I came out, like, it's a horrible time. 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:00.959 And he was it a FaceTime or was it a FaceTime call date? 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:05.519 Yeah, and it was like a sexy voice, sexier than mine. 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:08.959 Yeah, um, how would you rate your voice in terms of sexiness? 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:12.959 10 out of 10, and 10 is is it's actually a reverse scale. 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:13.199 Right. 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:15.759 10 is was nasal horrible, not sexy. 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:16.399 Terrible. 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:23.120 Uh, and but some people are into that, and if you're into that soyba, yeah, looking for a lover, it's cuffing season, honey. 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:31.120 Uh, but he was on his like workout bike during it, okay, and it was just so awkward. 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:32.000 That is strange. 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:33.519 He probably should have taken a pause. 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:34.959 Just don't do that. 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:35.680 Yeah, what? 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:37.600 Was he like actively working out? 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:40.639 He was like slowly going on the bike. 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:42.879 I feel like during COVID, everyone was into Peloton. 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:44.560 Maybe it was about that. 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:48.639 But just, you know, there's so many hours in the day. 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:49.120 Right. 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:52.160 And you're you said that this is a date. 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:55.360 I feel like I've heard like I he said, like, I want it to be like a real date. 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:57.519 Like, I think he was like, get like dinner or something. 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:58.800 So I think he was huh. 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:02.639 It was kind of you know how some people have like standing desks and they can like him otherwise. 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:03.680 He was doing that. 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:04.399 Interesting. 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:11.600 I feel like I've heard of people like before going on a real date with someone from that they met online, they'll like have a phone call or something. 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:15.439 Which sounds very mature, but I'm like, oh, this is so much work. 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:21.360 I know it's it's like just trying to get but I feel weird about it for some reason. 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:21.839 Right. 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:29.759 Because I feel like you can be very performative via FaceTime or a phone call, but like actually meeting someone in person is different. 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.679 It's also weird because there's like kind of an inherent closeness to phone calls. 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.440 Like you're you usually call people you know and like you want to catch up with. 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:37.759 Yeah. 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:40.799 Like be talking to someone you've never met is strange. 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:46.320 That being said, gay people will sleep with anyone anytime, but speaking to them is going to be no. 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:48.240 Okay, next topic. 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:50.960 We're gonna we're gonna really think about a new topic. 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:54.240 I want you to choose if it's not great right away, you can skip. 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:00.159 What is the best room in your house and why? 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:02.480 We might be sitting in it. 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:05.919 And yeah, I just kind of messaged me like, where do you record your podcast? 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:10.639 Honey, we are not in a studio, we are in my apartment. 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:11.039 Yeah. 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:14.960 And this room is like our bar room and also a podcast studio. 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:15.360 Yeah. 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.159 We've had this wallpaper up since before the podcast. 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:20.240 The dawn of time. 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.759 My hot, sexy biker husband, Peter, said it up. 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:29.759 And not a biker in like a biker gang kind of way, but a biker in like a He bikes in Central Park. 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:33.840 Bikes in Central Park, like sweet guy getting flowers kind of way. 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:34.399 Mm-hmm. 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:36.320 Even though I'm the one who gets him flowers. 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:38.080 But so you're the woman. 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:38.879 Because I'm the woman. 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:39.519 Yeah. 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:41.440 But I love this room. 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:43.120 I feel like it's so fun. 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:44.799 It's like so unique, New York. 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:46.879

Like I do love this room, but I disagree. 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:48.399 My favorite room is the living room. 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:50.159 My favorite room in your house is the living room. 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:53.519 It's so cozy woesy, and it's where all of our memories are made. 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:54.000 Yeah. 00:09:54.159 --> 00:10:00.320 Um, my favorite room in my new house is up for debate, honey, because nothing is unpacked yet to know. 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:02.720 But you could you could start thinking about it. 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:04.240 I love my patio. 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:07.039 Nothing and you consider that a room. 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:08.559 Yeah, I consider it a room. 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:09.440 Because it's so big. 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:10.080 Because it's so big. 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:10.799 Oh, you're bragging. 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:11.679 And it's enclosed. 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:12.639 And it's enclosed. 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:18.399 Um, I love my downstairs room, which is what we call the woman cave. 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:21.039 Because it's half drag studio, half living room. 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:21.679 I love that. 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:24.000 I do love, I mean, I literally love my apartment. 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:27.360 I searched far and wide for it in the span of like 10 blocks. 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:28.159 And it found you. 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:29.039 And it found me. 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:31.039 Um, what in your old um apartment? 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:32.559 Do you have a favorite room? 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:33.679 Huh. 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:39.039 I really liked my like dining room area weirdly. 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:39.440 Oh. 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:43.200 I painted a wall yellow and it was to die for, in my opinion. 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:45.039 Uh, it was fun to do. 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:46.480 I'm getting sneezy again. 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:46.799 Yeah. 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:48.159 So disgusting. 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:50.720 Uh I don't know what I'm sneezing about. 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:52.159 Oh, this is a good question. 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:54.320 That everyone at home, think about this question too. 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:55.519 Close your eyes. 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:57.519 What's your favorite outfit? 00:10:57.840 --> 00:10:58.399 Ever? 00:10:58.720 --> 00:10:59.120 Yeah. 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:02.159 Probably the outfit you're gonna wear to Bravo FanFest. 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:08.080 Well, I was literally also I really loved your wedding outfit with the train sleeves. 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:08.799 Me too. 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:14.399 Um, designed by me but inspired by Alan Cumming and the pictures you sent me. 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:18.559 Uh, I really love my toy gown dress so much. 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:20.080 That's probably my favorite outfit. 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:21.679 Can you describe it to the audience? 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:29.279 So it is a white base dress embellished with toys from childhood. 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:31.039 Where's the dress from Zara? 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:32.399 Sister. 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:34.399 Where's it from? 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:41.039 It is from uh costume designer Beck Jones, custom made to my body. 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:42.000 That's all right. 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:47.519 Yeah, I gained a little weight, so it's a little harder to get into these days, but it's okay. 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:49.840 Uh, because the corset, still corsets. 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:56.720 Uh half of it is girl toys, half of it is boy toys, and then there's like a beautiful headpiece that I did myself. 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:02.480 He like it's a base, but I like added all the toys and shit, and it's fucking gorgeous. 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:11.840 And then also he hand painted all of these different like colors and stuff on it to make it look like a child is doing like you know, little like scribble painting. 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:13.440 So it's fucking gorgeous. 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:14.559 It's iconic. 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:16.240 It's honestly really gorgeous. 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:22.159 I also love my Tom of Finland outfit, which Google Tom of Finland drawings and honey. 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:26.399 Imagine that stepping out of the page and on to your stage. 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:29.919 And it has a big large cock. 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:30.799 Cock, yeah, yeah. 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:31.600 So that's fine. 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:32.559 It is Cocktober. 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:34.000 And it is Cocktober. 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:37.519 Um this is a really good one. 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:40.639 What do you do when you're bored? 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:44.639 These days, fucking scroll, which sucks. 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:48.480 Sometimes, yeah, like what do I do when I'm bored? 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:49.360 I call you. 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:51.759 Yeah, I was gonna say, you call me, I do that. 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:53.840 I I get bored pretty easily, unfortunately. 00:12:54.000 --> 00:13:02.080 I think we live such like fun lives, and right, and our phones are constantly giving us entertainment and dopamine hits that it's like the moment that doesn't happen. 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:05.120 I love to listen to a podcast when I'm bored, honestly. 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:05.600 Yeah. 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.039 Um, I love to just find entertainment immediately. 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:14.320 I also feel like you probably get bored too, but you're so good at making fun out of absolutely nothing. 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:17.120 Yeah, I don't allow myself to even like get bored. 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:19.360 I haven't felt boredom in a very long time. 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:22.960 Whenever my grandma, who's 92, love that Diva. 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:24.559 Oh, why was I gonna call her? 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:27.600 Were you about to call your grandmother a bitch? 00:13:27.919 -->

00:13:28.480 Yeah. 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:30.720 Bring that word back, by the way, bitch. 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:31.360 Yeah. 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:33.440 Um, I am obsessed with her. 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:42.639 She's I would love to be in an hour-long conversation with her, but I know luckily I still honestly thought you were gonna say her, but I guess you don't care about her as much as I thought. 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:45.679 Um, I care about her deeply immensely. 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:47.360 She's one of my favorite people in the entire world. 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:49.120 Yeah, then mine can you call her for an hour. 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:54.720 I do call her a lot, but she doesn't always love to be on the phone. 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:56.399 So you're being thoughtful and careful. 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:59.759 And also, she like will be standing the whole time. 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:01.360 She doesn't sit when she's on the phone. 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.279 I don't know why, but she's 92, so I'm like an hour-long conversation. 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:10.480 I don't want her like standing like that, like because she has a landline like attached to the wall. 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:11.120 Like she refused. 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:12.720 We tried to give her a cell phone once. 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:13.200 No. 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.960 Um I don't want her standing for that long enough to be able to move. 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.200 So I was being very thoughtful in that case. 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:21.279 When I'm on the phone, I pace around. 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:23.679 The only time I sit and talk is literally right now. 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:24.240 Yeah. 00:14:25.039 --> 00:14:26.960 It's impossible to get this man to sit still. 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:29.360 Why would you sit still when you can ask the next question? 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:31.360 Okay, we're gonna think about a new question, everyone. 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:43.679 Wait, no, but I just wanted to bring up when I was a child and I would say I was bored, my grandma would always say, You should watch The Phantom Toll Booth, which was a book that turned into a movie about a boy who was bored and then he got sent to like a magical lamp. 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:44.559 It was a movie? 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:46.559 They turned it into a movie we got to watch. 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:48.559 And I want to make it into a Broadway musical. 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:50.080 I love that book. 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:52.320 If someone wants to do that with me, swipe up. 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:53.519 Swipe up. 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:57.919 Okay, the next thing we're gonna think about, we're gonna really think back. 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:00.559 Think back as far back as you can. 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:02.320 What type of kid were you? 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:03.279 Were you spoiled? 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:04.799 That's a really beautiful question. 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:09.200 Were you spoiled, rebellious, well-behaved, quiet, obnoxious? 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:11.919 None of those, really. 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:16.320 I mean, I was well behaved and quiet for the most part, but not spoiled? 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:16.799 No. 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:18.639 You're a spoiled adult, not kid. 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:25.600 I'm not spoiled I think spoiled is more than just getting a beautiful apartment. 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:30.720 Like spoiled is also expecting to get a beautiful apartment. 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:30.960 Right. 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:35.519 And not being grateful and expecting to just have everything handed to you. 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:41.840 Like it's like going into a random store that has like an animatron on the wall, being told you can't have it, and then throwing a fit online. 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:43.120 Like that's being spoiled. 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:43.600 Right. 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:44.000 You know? 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:44.399 Yeah. 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:45.679 But that's not me. 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:58.879 Um, I was a really sensitive, sweet little boy who loved to play with Polypocket and lip sync to Epanine in his bedroom, which is a character from Leimez. 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:06.240 And I loved to just make up like stories with all of my toys that were mostly girl toys. 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:06.639 Right. 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:11.039 And I was very sociable with my lady girlfriends growing up. 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:17.200 And my I actually had a gay friend in every era of my life, closeted or otherwise, which is crazy. 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:17.519 Yeah. 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:19.840 I just like gravitate towards each other. 00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:25.039 And that's I was just like, I was actually like a really sweet, sensitive boy, not built for this world. 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:25.600 Oh. 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:27.759 I was actually sweet and sensitive too. 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:28.480 Stop. 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:34.000 Yeah, my mom listening would say I was sweet and sensitive, but I was also very outgoing. 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:34.240 Yeah. 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:38.480 Um, I was also very um responsible, I would say. 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:38.879 Wow. 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:40.639 As a responsible. 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:43.200 Um, I like did all my homework. 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:54.240 I was like student council president, but also very energetic and very I picture you as running around, running around, running around, falling on the side of the pool and cracking your head open. 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:55.440 Is that you or your brother? 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:56.159 No, that was me. 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:56.720 That was you. 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:57.120 Yeah. 00:16:57.279 --> 00:16:59.360 Honey, check clock the scars. 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:02.240 Um, okay, let's think about one more topic. 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:04.000 This topic has to be groupthink. 00:17:04.160 -->

00:17:08.480 Okay, so this is groupthink, like something that we can all like relate to as a group. 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:09.119 Yeah. 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:14.000 Should streaming services release all episodes at once or do it weekly? 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:16.000 It depends on the kind of show. 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:16.799 Huh. 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:17.519 Yeah. 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:24.000 I think that a show that has a like kind of cliffhangery vibe. 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:24.559 Yeah. 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:26.319 That you know, it's weird. 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:27.039 It's weird. 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:28.559 Both are fun. 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:30.480 But for different reasons. 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:31.920 Both are fun for different reasons. 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:39.279 I think part of the reason why shows aren't in the cultural zeitgeist anymore is because they're released as a binge. 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:41.440 So then culture just moves. 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:44.640 So it's like, okay, you gotta watch it this week or it's gonna be spoiled. 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:47.039 And then culture moves on quickly from it. 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:47.440 Yeah. 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:52.160 But shows like White Lotus that are coming out every week, and then people are like, okay, who's gonna be killed? 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:55.359 Let's like all make guesses, like what's going on. 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:58.319 It becomes a conversation starter, right? 00:17:58.559 --> 00:17:59.839 But which is really fun. 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:01.680 Salt Lake City House 5 similarly. 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:10.720 And then you get to, and like I love like drag race being able to go to a gay bar and watch the show in a group setting, and it feels it's like the only time I understand sports, right? 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:16.799 It's it's like part of the show is community organizing, and I think that's really fun to be able to do that. 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:20.799 But uh, it is fun to binge things. 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:27.680 I just think that it I miss the days where every show you could be like, Are you gonna watch this? 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:31.519 Yeah, I really like episodic weekly drops. 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:31.839 Yeah. 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:34.160 Just so you can all talk about it throughout the week. 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:35.759 You can look forward to it. 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:42.400 I feel like more memeable moments happen, but when you all watch at once because you're all talking about the one episode you watched. 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:46.960 Um, versus And I feel like it gives more respect to all the work that everyone put into it. 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:47.279 Right. 00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:52.640 Doing it every week because then they're focused on that one hour or 30 minutes, however long it is, for the whole week. 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:52.960 Right. 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:55.839 As opposed to like, okay, moving on, moving on, moving

on. 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:56.079 Right. 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:01.599 And you you like miss things because you don't get to like analyze every second of it. 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:02.079 Right. 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:04.720 And then you're in the world of the show for so much longer. 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:09.920 It's like you can, if there's 15 episodes, you're there for 15 weeks versus you could just watch it in a day. 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:10.160 Yeah. 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:12.160 Like, wait, a day? 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:12.799 It's over. 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:14.480 And culture moves so quickly. 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:14.880 Yeah. 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:21.200 Now that it is done, and then it's like amazing shows that deserve to be talked about all year. 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:21.599 Right. 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:24.799 It's so weird because I feel like did he did Rivalry? 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:25.839 What did they do? 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:26.960 I think they did weekly. 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:27.440 Weekly. 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:27.599 Yeah. 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:30.240 But it started off with like two, yeah. 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:31.519 People love to do that these days. 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:31.920 Yeah. 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:35.119 Uh, but that showed It was carbo loading. 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:35.599 Yeah. 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:38.799 I've been carbo maxing honey all week long. 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:42.720 I cannot wait to stop doing that. 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:44.799 Uh, but it it's really awesome. 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:49.680 Uh like emotionally and physically, besides feeling bloated boots. 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:51.920 Uh yeah, I miss it. 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:58.640 And but heated rivalry, I like that has stayed in the cultural zeitgeist to this day. 00:19:58.799 --> 00:19:59.039 Yeah. 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:07.359 People are so obsessed with it that like articles are coming out now of like they announce how many episodes will be in the next season. 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:08.480 Like, that's an article. 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:08.960 Right. 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:12.799 And Hudson Williams like is gonna show his butt again. 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:14.160 And like that's an article, right? 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:14.720 Right, right. 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:19.839 So, but that was weekly, and see, weekly allows you to be in this cultural zeitgeist. 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:22.799 The anticipation is important. 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:25.440 Should we do one more groupthink topic? 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:37.920 Okay, and I hope you guys are loving this format, you know, of just like really thinking about random topics and just like what is the most overrated movie of all time? 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:40.400 Whoa. 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:42.720 Of all time. 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:45.279 That's this is a good one for groupthink. 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:47.599 Yeah, this is a good one to really think about as the group. 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:48.079 Yeah. 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.720 Okay, my mind immediately goes to things that are like mass consumed. 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:55.200 So I'm like Marvel movies. 00:20:55.680 --> 00:21:02.799 Um, I'm thinking about um shit like that, where I'm like, this is like not my vibe. 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:06.240 Although when I have seen them like on planes, I'm kind of like fun. 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:08.640 Like they're great plane movies, I think. 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:10.000 So I kind of get it. 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:12.640 I'm kind of like a Marvelista in that way. 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:17.119 Um, but maybe if there's like a football movie. 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:20.400 Oh no, for me Star Wars, like that's not my culture. 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:20.799 Right. 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:22.079 You like it, right? 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:23.279 No, it's plasma. 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:24.799 Oh, not all drag queens are the same. 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:33.839 I'm just like, I don't to me it's overrated, like oh, and also Twilight and Harry Potter, like that's not for me. 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:36.240 Unfortunately, I love Harry Potter turf. 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:42.000 Uh I now I sadly like can't like it anymore, which fucking sucks. 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:55.759 But it just like sometimes you can separate the art from the artists, but in this case, when you write a book about inclusivity through magic, like you write like an allegory about inclusivity, and then you are an evil bigot. 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:58.960 It's just hard to I think it's harder to separate. 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:05.680 I think it's harder to separate the art from the artist when the artist is the one writing the words. 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:06.000 Yeah. 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:21.599 If you're like an actor and you're just like presenting a character, but if you're the one actually writing the words, or like painting the picture, it's hard for me to now like your product because you're that's your point of view. 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:22.799 Yeah, that's tough. 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:23.839 So that sucks. 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:32.000 Um I honestly can't fucking know what movie is overrated because it's so such a subjective question. 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:32.960 Say one. 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:34.960 And I love every movie that's everrated. 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:35.599 Say one movie. 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.599 That doesn't that doesn't do it for me. 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:38.720 Say one. 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:42.799 Um can you start naming movies that you think that um I forgot? 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:44.799 I mean, Star Wars is Park. 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:45.839 I like that so fun. 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:47.839 Star Wars, I think, is a good one. 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.640 I remember going to see the one with Darth Maul in it. 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:51.759 Lord of the Rings. 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:52.640 That's my number one. 00:22:52.720

--> 00:22:53.680 I'm like, sorry, I can't. 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:58.720 Well, it's there's so many short kings in that movie. 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:01.680 Oh, of course you love those little goblins hobbling about. 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:02.240 Right? 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:02.960 So cute. 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:04.319 They're called hobbits, my love. 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:08.000 I think Star Wars doesn't do it for me either. 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:12.000 The one with Darth Maul in it, I remember we went to like the midnight showing as a kid. 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:14.960 I felt right to sleep because I and I was like, I don't care. 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:15.839 I just don't care. 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:16.400 I'm sorry. 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:17.039 Yeah. 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:19.279 I think Job of the Hut more like Job of the Slug. 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:20.160 Yeah, babe. 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:23.039 Um, I really, yeah, I'm gonna say Lord of the Rings. 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:24.240 I'm like, no. 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:31.759 One time this guy invited me over for a grinder hookup and was playing Lord of the Rings during it. 00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:32.240 Oh, interesting. 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:33.920 Not the horniest vibe. 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:34.319 Oh. 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:35.920 Still came. 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.000 Uh now we have to do what do you even think? 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:50.880 But it's a random uh like either a random celebrity or like a random topic or like a random thing. 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:55.680 Like not a random topic that is like spaceships or something. 00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:57.039 Right, okay, okay. 00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:59.440 Well, I'm just gonna give you a person. 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:01.039 I think we should do it together. 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:01.680 Oh. 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:03.039 Okay, okay. 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:04.079 I I have an idea. 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:04.799 I have an idea. 00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:08.240 These are all of the celebrities who it's their birthday today. 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:11.519 So we're gonna choose one who's really random. 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.759 We're gonna choose one who's really random and guess what we think about them. 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:17.599 Jordan Callaway. 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:24.079 Jordan Callaway was a 90s superstar actor TV show. 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:26.160 He was in Saved by the Bell. 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:27.599 He was in Save by the Bell. 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.640 And he actually was a superhero. 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:31.200 Yeah. 00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:32.079 Um in the movie. 00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:36.640 It was when they had jumped the shark already, and they were just like throwing things at the wall. 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:40.240 And so he was actually trying to save the bell. 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:41.839 They started taking it really literally. 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:45.039 And it was about liberty, you know, the freedom bell. 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:45.680 The Liberty Bell. 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:46.319 Yeah, the Liberty Bell. 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:48.559 Philadelphia, where I'm from originally. 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:51.599 And that's and that's how it all comes together. 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:52.319 Yeah. 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:54.319 South Philadelphia, born and raised. 00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:55.279 South Philadelphia. 00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:56.640 West Philadelphia. 00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:57.920 West Philadelphia. 00:24:58.000 --> 00:24:59.440 I always get my words confused. 00:24:59.599 --> 00:24:59.839 I know. 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:01.920 But I that's kind of like not words, but directions. 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:02.559 Directions. 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:03.920 Are you good at directions? 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.960 Let's first figure out who Jordan Colloway is. 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:09.200 I'm not good at directions, but New York is a grid, thank God. 00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:10.720 Oh, how do we not know? 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:15.839 He starred as Zach Carter Schwartz in Unfabulous on Nicolas. 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:17.920 I watched a few episodes of that. 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.519 That had Emma Roberts in it. 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:20.640 That was her first big thing. 00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:22.160 He was also in Riverdale. 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:24.160 Oh, I watched that. 00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:24.799 Yeah. 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:26.079 But then I stopped. 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:31.680 And I would say on famousbirthdays.com, he is number 19 today. 00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:34.400 You want to know who some other famous birthdays are today? 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:34.799 Yeah. 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:36.559 And the day that we're it's the day we're filming. 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:37.519 It's the day we're filming. 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:38.720 Which is what day? 00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:40.160 Oh, the 18th of October. 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:42.720 I know that because tomorrow is your end of the day. 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:43.839 21st of September. 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:45.440 Um, okay. 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:47.440 Zach Efron's birthday is today. 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:48.960 Happy birthday, Zach. 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:50.400 Happy birthday. 00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:55.200 I used to jerk off to this one picture of him like all the time. 00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:56.160 That's interesting. 00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:00.000 He's just a man who's not trying to be objectified by gay guys. 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.799 I'm pretty sure he is trying to be objectified by gay guys. 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:03.279 Yeah? 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.920 He actually in interviews, he'll be like, I know why I'm in movies and it's for my body. 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:13.599 So I remember in what was that movie with Seth Rogan and them, and they were like Frat Bros. 00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:14.640 Oh yeah, yeah. 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:17.440 Um, he was I remember the

interviews with neighbors. 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:19.119 Neighbors, neighbors. 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:26.799 Uh Seth Rogan was like, Yeah, like between takes he would be doing push-ups because he was shirtless in these scenes to like have a little bit of a pump. 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:30.960 I'm gonna do a hundred push-ups after this podcast because I didn't go to the gym today. 00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:32.480 Sounds like a good idea. 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:33.680 Stinky thinkies. 00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:41.359 Uh who else is speaking of loving to be objectified by gay guys, it's Zoran Mom Donnie's birthday. 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:42.160 Stop! 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:44.480 Yeah, oh wow. 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:46.480 He loves to be objectified by gay guys. 00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:50.000 And lastly, someone who took a picture with my mom once. 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:52.160 It's Neo's birthday. 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:53.200 Neo. 00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:55.759 He's working late. 00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:57.920 Because he's a singer. 00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:00.000 And he's bringing sexy back. 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:00.559 Yeah. 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:07.119 Um, so, anyways, I we know that this was a change of format for you think, um, but desperate times call for desperate moo moos. 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:10.799 And we just wanted to still check in with our stinky thinky. 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:12.880 You have to stop crying. 00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:15.519 Like, people have been writing in to me specifically. 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.200 They're like, hey, like, we don't, we as are your loyal fans, right? 00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:21.519 Don't love to be called stinky thinkies. 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:26.000 They are the thinkers are our fans that we gave them that name. 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:26.400 Right. 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:27.680 And they put their thinking caps on. 00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:28.960 They put their thinking caps on. 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:31.599 And there are some out there that are the stinky thinkies. 00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:45.200 After the new thing, those are the ones that are working out at the gym listening to us, or just haven't showered in a while, or their shower curtain was delayed from delivery in their new apartment and they had to shower at their friend's house across the way. 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:45.839 Right. 00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:49.519 And I was gonna say that, but then you stuck the words out of my mouth. 00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:50.160 Yeah. 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:51.680 Okay. 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.000 Thanks for I love you, dude. 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:58.240 I'm so grateful that we have this to um always hang out. 00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:01.119 And I love that we have this platform to finally say these things. 00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:07.920 Yeah, to say what you wanna say and let the words fall out. 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.720 Honestly, I wanna see you think. 00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:20.640 Vibe it is that's reserved for one person, and it's my grandma. 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:29.119 You think is produced and edited by Straight Luke, aka Luke Martin, and kind of sort of by Peter Shum. 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:31.920 Art by Curtis Brown and music by Jack Rayner.