התמלול המלא של Episode 701 - Recapping Strange New Worlds: La An's Journey

on the DL. 40 00:02:19.689 --> 00:02:20.650 Awesome. Sounds like a plan. 41 00:02:20.669 --> 00:02:24.169 And we're going to jump to Las Vegas, and we're 42 00:02:24.189 --> 00:02:25.669 going to say hello to Charles. 43 00:02:25.689 --> 00:02:26.590 How are you doing, Charles? 44 00:02:27.650 --> 00:02:29.750 I'm doing good, as you wish. 45 00:02:31.189 --> 00:02:33.439 As I'm sure that's how you're going to want to 46 00:02:33.469 --> 00:02:34.460 have a good show. 47 00:02:35.500 --> 00:02:36.879 Jim says, as he wishes. 48 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:38.800 We always do. 49 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:41.020 Enjoying our 95 degree weather. 50 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:47.889 Yep. Yep. And last but not least, we have with 51 00:02:47.969 --> 00:02:50.069 us V. He's out in Virginia. 52 00:02:53.310 --> 00:02:55.509 How you doing, V? 53 00:02:55.509 --> 00:02:56.949 I'm here. 54 00:03:00.590 --> 00:03:04.229 And it is fall. I am so thankful because I was, 55 00:03:04.289 --> 00:03:07.590 like I posted on Facebook, and it's been melting like 56 00:03:07.629 --> 00:03:13.460 a peach. The heat and humidity. And so now. 57 00:03:13.340 --> 00:03:16.439 It's... Melting like a popsicle in Phoenix? 58 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:22.659 Sure, that too. That too. But, yeah. 59 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.330 We don't have Paul with us tonight. Paul is in sports. 60 00:03:27.259 --> 00:03:30.150 So no Paul tonight. So this is the five of 61 00:03:30.210 --> 00:03:32.189 us for the show. Paul will be back in another 62 00:03:32.270 --> 00:03:36.169 two weeks. So just hang in there for Paul. You 63 00:03:36.189 --> 00:03:39.090 guys can support Trek Talking by becoming a subscriber. It's 64 00:03:39.169 --> 00:03:40.889 only 99 cents. And if you do, you get to 65 00:03:40.949 --> 00:03:43.969 see all these awesome videos that David works so hard on. 66 00:03:44.620 --> 00:03:46.340 But if you don't want to be a subscriber, hey, 67 00:03:46.580 --> 00:03:50.000 that's cool. You can help us by helping our algorithm 68 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:51.039 out on Facebook. 69 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:54.020 And how do you do that? Simple. Like and share 70 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:54.639 our posts. 71 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:59.000 So that's how you can help us keep this podcast going. 72 00:03:59.020 --> 00:04:00.759 So today we're going to be talking about. 73 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:05.870 Strange New Worlds Season 4, Episode 9, once upon a time. So, yeah, 74 00:04:06.110 --> 00:04:09.909 if you got a chance to watch that episode, stick 75 00:04:09.949 --> 00:04:12.169 around and see what we thought about it and see 76 00:04:12.210 --> 00:04:13.430 what our fans thought about it. 77 00:04:14.389 --> 00:04:16.389 We also have our fan shout-outs to ask where we've 78 00:04:16.430 --> 00:04:20.370 had people just like you for supporting us around the globe. 79 00:04:21.009 --> 00:04:23.569 Charles is going to have his cadet review for us. 80 00:04:23.629 --> 00:04:26.860 We're also going to have our fan reactions and episode scores, 81 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:29.800 so you want to stick around for that. And what 82 00:04:29.899 --> 00:04:32.680 actions do you share a birthday with? Find out on us. 83 00:04:33.699 --> 00:04:38.089 Birthdays. And, of course, we have Uncle Jim's movie pick 84 00:04:38.389 --> 00:04:43.050 of the week. Okay. So.... 85 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:47.850 Without any further ado, we are going to dive right 86 00:04:47.990 --> 00:04:50.569 in to our fan shout-outs. 87 00:04:52.750 --> 00:04:56.430 Okay, fan shout-outs. We're just dealing with some back-end tech 88 00:04:56.449 --> 00:04:59.490 stuff there. Yes, this week we are starting our fan 89 00:04:59.529 --> 00:05:06.069 shout-outs with good old Yvonne Listens, who hails from the 90 00:05:06.410 --> 00:05:09.649 Dutch-speaking part of Belgium, which I didn't personally know that 91 00:05:09.670 --> 00:05:12.790 there was a Dutch-speaking part of Belgium, but... The more 92 00:05:12.829 --> 00:05:13.129 you know. 93 00:05:13.290 --> 00:05:13.629 Ding. 94 00:05:13.730 --> 00:05:16.040 So thanks for checking in, Yvonne. And thanks for listening 95 00:05:16.060 --> 00:05:18.720 to our podcast. Also like to say hello this week 96 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:23.300 to Carl Garth Grisky, I think is how you would 97 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:27.579 pronounce that, who hails from Malta and sends us that 98 00:05:27.620 --> 00:05:30.839 beautiful Maltese flag. Thanks, Carl, for saying hello to us 99 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:33.879 this week. We really appreciate your support for the podcast. 100 00:05:34.529 --> 00:05:37.889 I'd also like to say hello and welcome Joss Shefferly, uh, 101 00:05:38.589 --> 00:05:41.060 who is a top fan, meaning that they already are 102 00:05:41.269 --> 00:05:43.839 doing a great job of interacting with us on our 103 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:46.560 social media. And we really appreciate that. And guess where 104 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:50.379 Joss is from. That's right, folks. We have another new, 105 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:52.620 we're getting all these new ones lately. I love this. 106 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:55.769 Joss hails from North Korea. And as far as I 107 00:05:55.810 --> 00:05:57.970 can tell is our very first fan to check in 108 00:05:58.829 --> 00:06:01.250 from North Korea. So thanks Joss for saying hello. Uh, 109 00:06:02.250 --> 00:06:04.680 and for being a top fan, uh, You must have 110 00:06:04.689 --> 00:06:11.620 a great VPN. And also thanks to Klaus Melke, who 111 00:06:11.660 --> 00:06:16.319 hails from Upper Franconia in Germany, sending us that beautiful black, red, 112 00:06:16.420 --> 00:06:18.790 and yellow of the German flag. Thanks, Klaus, for checking 113 00:06:18.870 --> 00:06:22.430 in and saying hello to us. V, what do you 114 00:06:22.470 --> 00:06:23.769 say we bring it back to the U.S. 115 00:06:27.910 --> 00:06:34.410 Welcome to America, and we're going to Arkansas. Then Roger Hernandez, 116 00:06:34.610 -->

00:06:36.089 who is a fan. 117 00:06:36.310 --> 00:06:37.149 Thank you, Roger. 118 00:06:37.180 --> 00:06:40.480 And I'll say hello to us from Mexico City with 119 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:49.560 the lovely Mexican flag. And next, Gary Lee, San Antonio, Texas. 120 00:06:50.540 --> 00:06:53.959 We have the beautiful Alamo. I don't know, have you 121 00:06:54.019 --> 00:06:56.240 ever seen the basements at the Alamo? 122 00:06:57.100 --> 00:06:58.860 Oh, it's the Kiwi Home and Joe, sorry. 123 00:06:59.740 --> 00:07:04.160 Ray Lefkowitz. My name is Linda Kelly Bryan, saying hello 124 00:07:04.180 --> 00:07:09.610 to us from San Jose, California. Thank you all for 125 00:07:10.610 --> 00:07:15.410 your support. All right, on to you, Carol. 126 00:07:17.649 --> 00:07:18.639 Thank you, V. 127 00:07:19.629 --> 00:07:23.430 Let's start off with a very warm welcome to David 128 00:07:23.470 --> 00:07:26.209 McLean from right here in Las Vegas. 129 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:29.120 And this time, I know who David is. 130 00:07:29.139 --> 00:07:29.399 I saw him. 131 00:07:31.529 --> 00:07:34.129 Wednesday before last, I believe it was. 132 00:07:35.329 --> 00:07:43.600 Welcome Judy DeLong, DeLeo from Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Been a Trekkie 133 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:47.220 from the beginning and is 68 years old. Forgot to 134 00:07:47.259 --> 00:07:50.360 say David gave us a big grin, a thumbs up. 135 00:07:51.699 --> 00:07:54.610 Welcome William Meadows from Marion, Illinois. 136 00:07:54.629 --> 00:07:55.209 Welcome William. 137 00:07:55.730 --> 00:07:56.589 Welcome William. 138 00:07:58.259 --> 00:08:03.230 And Brian Kane from the Bay Area in California. Okay, Brian, 139 00:08:03.259 --> 00:08:05.069 you got to be a little more specific. There are 140 00:08:05.110 --> 00:08:06.670 several parts of the Bay Area. 141 00:08:06.730 --> 00:08:11.170 Which one? Since Paul's not here, I'll pass it to Jim. 142 00:08:11.189 --> 00:08:15.889 Why, thank you so much, Charles. I'm going to try 143 00:08:15.910 --> 00:08:18.410 to fill his footstep, but they're going to be pretty 144 00:08:18.430 --> 00:08:21.290 big ones. First, we want to say hello and thank 145 00:08:21.329 --> 00:08:25.209 you to Bucky Joe, who's in Texas. And wow, the 146 00:08:25.269 --> 00:08:26.930 flag waving proudly. 147 00:08:27.009 --> 00:08:29.939 Welcome, Bucky. Right here on my. 148 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:31.370 Neck of the woods, we want to say hello and 149 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:34.549 thank you to Francis Legadia, who is a top fan 150 00:08:34.909 --> 00:08:36.370 from Rutland, Vermont. 151 00:08:36.549 --> 00:08:39.110 Represent, dog. That's right. 152 00:08:39.649 --> 00:08:42.320 Thank you, Francis. We also want to say hello and 153 00:08:42.340 --> 00:08:46.759 thank you to Wyatt Stone, who's in Georgia. And last 154 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:49.580 but not least on my list, Green Cooper, who's a 155 00:08:49.620 --> 00:08:51.240 top fan from Ontario. 156 00:08:51.379 --> 00:08:51.840 Get it up. 157 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:54.110 If you guys would like to be featured as a 158 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:57.009 top fan, please, please head over to our Facebook page 159 00:08:57.509 --> 00:08:58.970 for our talk and beyond. 160 00:08:59.389 --> 00:09:01.429 You'll see the Live Long and Prosper pinned to the 161 00:09:01.490 --> 00:09:04.429 top of the page. Click on that. Tell us where 162 00:09:04.450 --> 00:09:04.909 you're from. 163 00:09:05.190 --> 00:09:09.250 Leave lots of emojis. That gets my attention. If you 164 00:09:09.269 --> 00:09:11.690 see a heart next to your name, remember, truly, you're 165 00:09:11.730 --> 00:09:14.460 going to be featured in a future fan shout-out. And 166 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:17.159 for those of you who happen to be subscribers, these 167 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:20.470 awesome pictures that are going by right now, If you 168 00:09:20.490 --> 00:09:23.690 become a subscriber, you can send your picture to David, 169 00:09:24.230 --> 00:09:26.110 and David will put them right up there on the 170 00:09:26.149 --> 00:09:28.830 screen so the whole world can see you as your 171 00:09:28.870 --> 00:09:33.000 cosplay with your favorite actor, whatever you want to send. 172 00:09:33.659 --> 00:09:35.179 You can send them to us, and David will get 173 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:36.360 them up there. 174 00:09:36.259 --> 00:09:39.519 On the screen. All right, so that wraps up our 175 00:09:39.539 --> 00:09:42.779 fan shout-out section. And while you're. 176 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:44.379 On our Facebook page, I like to throw out all 177 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:47.500 kinds of questions, things like that. Because I think it's 178 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:49.820 very interesting to have a lot of fan reaction from 179 00:09:49.840 --> 00:09:52.259 you guys so that we're not just a bunch of 180 00:09:52.350 --> 00:09:58.169 talking heads here. So I threw up a poll and 181 00:09:58.190 --> 00:10:01.529 I'm going to have Eric. go over that with you, 182 00:10:01.549 --> 00:10:12.000 but first, we need to have the polling song. 183 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.620 You know we like to win, but you thought about 184 00:10:16.700 --> 00:10:22.799 the show and we tried. To share your opinions with 185 00:10:23.110 --> 00:10:29.549 all of our minions. I'm there because they listen. So 186 00:10:29.710 --> 00:10:33.159 tell us just what you think. And together we will 187 00:10:33.299 --> 00:10:36.299 all drink. Gnar and Romulan ale. 188 00:10:36.419 --> 00:10:38.580 Gnar and Romulan ale. 189 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:44.139 All right, Eric, you're in charge of the poll, so 190 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:44.899 take it away. 191 00:10:45.379 --> 00:10:45.759 All right. 192 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:49.679 Well, we continue this week with week three of building 193 00:10:49.700 --> 00:10:54.840 the crew of the USS Shockerree. And this year, this week, 194 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.799 we are asking, who would you choose as your favorite

pilot? 195 00:10:58.899 --> 00:11:01.600 And we have the top eight pilot candidates from the 196 00:11:01.620 --> 00:11:05.000 Star Trek universe being considered. In the number eight spot 197 00:11:05.019 --> 00:11:09.580 with 1% of the vote, we have Sydney LaForge. Everybody 198 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.779 remember her? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, she was a pilot. 199 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:14.759 Yeah. 200 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:18.210 But only 1% of you remembered. So that's probably one 201 00:11:18.259 --> 00:11:21.809 person who answered our poll. But she did get a vote. 202 00:11:21.830 --> 00:11:25.809 So that's pretty cool. In second to last place and 203 00:11:25.830 --> 00:11:29.559 seventh place otherwise, we have Wesley Crusher, who often functioned 204 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:33.340 as ship's pilot. 2% of you gave him the vote. 205 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:35.399 And you know what? He did pretty good for a 206 00:11:35.429 --> 00:11:38.620 teenager and then into his young adult life. So I 207 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:40.879 say kudos to Wesley Crusher for making the list and 208 00:11:40.899 --> 00:11:45.019 for getting 2% of the vote. In the number six spot, 209 00:11:45.059 --> 00:11:49.379 we have Lee Kelso. That's right. Remember Lee Kelso? No, 210 00:11:49.460 --> 00:11:52.720 I know you don't, but that's okay. More people than 211 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.350 you remembered who they were and they got 3% of 212 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.789 the vote this time around. So in that number six spot, 213 00:11:58.809 --> 00:12:00.230 we have Lee Kelso with 3%. 214 00:11:59.970 --> 00:12:00.289 Of the vote. 215 00:12:01.269 --> 00:12:05.470 In the number five spot, we have the cyber-enhanced Kayla 216 00:12:05.490 --> 00:12:09.360 Detmer from Discovery, 5% of views, thought she was the 217 00:12:09.389 --> 00:12:12.159 best pilot. And I will say she was the first 218 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:15.039 one that I know of to go to Black Alert. So, 219 00:12:15.580 --> 00:12:19.360 you know, that's pretty cool. In our number four spot, 220 00:12:19.779 --> 00:12:25.379 we have Travis Mayweather with 7% of the vote. And 221 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:28.960 I could go on about this for quite some time. 222 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:32.980 In fact, I've considered having an entire Travis Mayweather show, 223 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:35.500 a special one hour show about Travis Mayweather, because I 224 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:39.500 personally think that he's the most underrated Star Trek character 225 00:12:39.620 --> 00:12:42.039 of all time. You look at all the stuff that 226 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:47.289 he did during the series of Enterprise, and he's actually 227 00:12:47.309 --> 00:12:52.090 an amazing person and an amazing just companion and good 228 00:12:52.149 --> 00:12:55.480 friend and Also quite talented and strong and good looking 229 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:57.360 and all sorts of different things. And 7% of you 230 00:12:57.379 --> 00:12:59.980 thought he was a good pilot as well. So thanks 231 00:13:00.019 --> 00:13:03.159 for putting Travis Bailiwether in that number four spot. In 232 00:13:03.179 --> 00:13:07.120 the number three spot, we have, guess who? You would 233 00:13:07.139 --> 00:13:08.669 have thought he would have been a little higher, but 234 00:13:08.710 --> 00:13:12.909 Hikaru Sulu got 24% of the vote and he's only 235 00:13:12.950 --> 00:13:16.409 in our number three spot. Kind of surprising, but I 236 00:13:16.429 --> 00:13:18.710 would bet you that these next three were pretty much 237 00:13:18.789 --> 00:13:22.940 neck and neck. We've got 24% 25 and 26% of 238 00:13:22.980 --> 00:13:24.820 the vote for each of these next three. So they're 239 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:28.200 basically tied. So we've got Hikaru Sulu in number three. 240 00:13:28.220 --> 00:13:32.080 And number two, we have good old Erica Ortega's from 241 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:35.850 Strange New Worlds, our new pilot with the awesome shaved sides. 242 00:13:36.590 --> 00:13:39.570 She flies the ship. And in the number one spot 243 00:13:39.590 --> 00:13:42.710 with 26% of the vote, just barely edging out the 244 00:13:42.750 --> 00:13:47.789 last two, Tom Paris. That's right. Creator of the Delta Flyer. 245 00:13:48.740 --> 00:13:54.620 All around, you know, cowboy, great husband to B'Elanna Torres. 246 00:13:54.659 --> 00:13:59.419 Somehow they made that work. But he was a fantastic pilot, 247 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:00.860 so I'm happy to see him at the top of 248 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:03.230 that list. And it was cool to see him have 249 00:14:03.259 --> 00:14:06.730 kind of a good arc during Voyager, in particular with 250 00:14:06.769 --> 00:14:10.350 his father, the Admiral. So there you have it. You 251 00:14:10.509 --> 00:14:14.549 all have selected as the pilot of our ship, Tom Paris, 252 00:14:15.009 --> 00:14:19.470 not Hikaru Sulu. So surprising. But that's okay. This is 253 00:14:19.509 --> 00:14:22.250 the USS Shaakiri. This is your ship. 254 00:14:24.789 --> 00:14:31.460 Actually, Sulu, Paris, and Ortegas, it all depended on how 255 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:32.860 I rounded it up. 256 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:33.879 They were that close. 257 00:14:34.500 --> 00:14:34.759 Wow. 258 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:41.480 You know, like 26.5, 26.9. 259 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:43.919 They were all pretty much neck and neck. 260 00:14:44.570 --> 00:14:49.419 Well, you know, Jim, there are three duty shifts. Three 261 00:14:49.450 --> 00:14:50.259 potential pilots. 262 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:54.330 That's all I'm saying. True. Very, very true. 263 00:14:54.350 --> 00:14:55.850 You think Sulu would do third shift? 264 00:14:57.470 --> 00:15:01.690 He'll be shoveling the coal with Mr. 265 00:15:01.730 --> 00:15:02.250 Chekhov. 266 00:15:03.070 --> 00:15:05.149 I think we better put Sulu on first ship, put 267 00:15:05.230 --> 00:15:06.889 Tom Paris down in the coal mines. 268 00:15:07.929 -->

00:15:09.809 Yes. Good call. Good call. 269 00:15:11.289 --> 00:15:15.789 So how is the USS Shockery stacking up so far? 270 00:15:16.350 --> 00:15:18.769 Yeah, so far, as I said, it's been the last 271 00:15:18.809 --> 00:15:22.779 three weeks. Our chief engineer was selected to be Scotty 272 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:25.919 by you all. Our chief of security is good old 273 00:15:26.299 --> 00:15:29.940 Odo from Deep Space Nine. And now we have our pilot, 274 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.799 Tom Paris from Star Trek Voyager. 275 00:15:33.100 --> 00:15:35.960 Wow, so that's a good representation of 60 years of 276 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:36.860 Star Trek so far. 277 00:15:37.500 --> 00:15:41.009 Good diversity. Yeah, I'm excited to see if somebody from 278 00:15:41.070 --> 00:15:43.309 Strange New Worlds or Discovery makes the list. That would 279 00:15:43.330 --> 00:15:43.610 be great. 280 00:15:44.850 --> 00:15:47.750 Maybe. We're still going. We've still got some more. 281 00:15:48.710 --> 00:15:51.519 And now that we've got the polls out of the way, 282 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:57.059 we're going to turn over to Charles for. 283 00:15:55.519 --> 00:15:57.220 Our cadet training. 284 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:00.320 Thank you, Jim. 285 00:16:00.539 --> 00:16:03.799 And of course, the cadet training is based on the 286 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:08.370 fact that episodes or shows that I can tie into 287 00:16:08.389 --> 00:16:09.230 this episode. 288 00:16:10.769 --> 00:16:14.590 Of course, Strange New World, Elise in Kingdoms. From season one. 289 00:16:14.629 --> 00:16:15.350 TOS. 290 00:16:15.490 --> 00:16:19.490 Reminds me a little bit of Mirror Mirror. Season two. 291 00:16:19.509 --> 00:16:22.429 We're dealing with people's doubles. 292 00:16:22.539 --> 00:16:23.379 DS9. 293 00:16:23.460 --> 00:16:27.700 Far Beyond the Stars. Benny Russell. I'll talk about that later. 294 00:16:27.820 --> 00:16:32.620 Eric will probably love this one. The Princess Bride. There 295 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:34.220 are a lot of references to that. 296 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:36.399 Arthur C. 297 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:36.840 Clarke. 298 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:37.620 Logic. 299 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:42.730 Spock rationalizes the entire ordeal story. Using Arthur C. Clarke's 300 00:16:42.789 --> 00:16:48.669 famous law, any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 301 00:16:49.649 --> 00:16:52.759 Remind the crew what it looks like. What looks like 302 00:16:52.779 --> 00:16:56.159 a spell book is really a reality warped alien tech 303 00:16:56.179 --> 00:16:59.340 they just don't yet understand. And of course, our dragon 304 00:16:59.740 --> 00:17:03.600 reminds me a little bit of Sleeping Beauty when Maleficent 305 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:08.119 changes into a giant black and purple dragon. But I 306 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:12.220 couldn't find a real well-famous red dragon. But I'm passing 307 00:17:12.259 --> 00:17:16.539 it over to Jim, who wants to recap and talk 308 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.809 about what occurred in this episode. 309 00:17:19.970 --> 00:17:23.789 Usually Paul does this. I volunteered to do it before 310 00:17:23.809 --> 00:17:26.210 Eric volunteered to do it. So Eric can do it 311 00:17:26.250 --> 00:17:29.349 next week, which is a much better episode than this one. 312 00:17:29.369 --> 00:17:31.630 But I'm going to give it my all, guys. I'm 313 00:17:31.690 --> 00:17:32.299 going to try to be. 314 00:17:33.230 --> 00:17:38.279 Remember, Jim, this is your emotion-neutral, just what happened in 315 00:17:38.299 --> 00:17:40.460 the episode. This is no opinions, right? 316 00:17:40.740 --> 00:17:45.440 The dragon. I was thinking more of Game of Thrones. Ooh, yeah. 317 00:17:46.539 --> 00:17:49.420 We'll get to that when we talk about the episode. 318 00:17:49.500 --> 00:17:52.529 Okay, so, fresh from attending a diplomatic wedding, the crew 319 00:17:52.569 --> 00:17:57.049 of the Enterprise, including Captain Wright, Spock, Portugas, and La'an, 320 00:17:57.470 --> 00:18:03.880 investigate a bizarre, scientifically-defying, unknown, flat planet. Han has been 321 00:18:03.950 --> 00:18:10.000 struggling all season with severe emotional disconnection, and her darker 322 00:18:10.220 --> 00:18:14.400 augment impulses her to be intensely prickly and very darned. 323 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:17.619 Pike leads a landing party to the surface and discovers 324 00:18:17.740 --> 00:18:21.380 an immense fairy tale kingdom reminiscent of the storybook world 325 00:18:21.900 --> 00:18:24.720 from the Elysium Kingdom. That's a first season. 326 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:25.700 Episode, by the way. 327 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:28.400 The team is captured by the Royal Guard serving on 328 00:18:28.420 --> 00:18:31.259 the team that is played by Celia Rose Gooding. That's 329 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:36.230 a La'an is treated as Princess Talia by a sword-wielding 330 00:18:36.329 --> 00:18:37.269 Joseph Dr. 331 00:18:37.430 --> 00:18:41.829 Mbenga. With help from Prince Dashing, James T. Kirk himself, 332 00:18:41.910 --> 00:18:45.380 La'an escapes her captors. She lies that she needs to 333 00:18:45.430 --> 00:18:49.980 break into the dungeon to rescue the key. I forgot 334 00:18:50.019 --> 00:18:52.259 what the key of consequences is. Is that what it was? 335 00:18:52.910 --> 00:18:55.190 I think that's what it was, the Key of Consequences. 336 00:18:55.269 --> 00:18:56.849 So they go on a quest that turns into a 337 00:18:56.890 --> 00:19:00.990 deadly personal reflection on her past, her family legacy, and 338 00:19:01.029 --> 00:19:02.880 her inner emotional walls. 339 00:19:03.339 --> 00:19:05.099 Pretty deep stuff going on here. 340 00:19:05.779 --> 00:19:09.680 Meanwhile, Poppleganger fantasy versions of Mike and Spock, Seraph, and 341 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:13.640 Pollux the Wizard stumble upon a landing party's discarded Starfoot 342 00:19:13.700 --> 00:19:17.519 uniform and accidentally

beam up to the Enterprise using the 343 00:19:17.579 --> 00:19:21.980 magic clam. Alana is forced to metaphorically and literally face 344 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:29.740 aspects of herself within a whimsical, logic-defying environment. The ordeal 345 00:19:29.809 --> 00:19:34.009 helps her process her emotional isolation and confront the darker 346 00:19:34.190 --> 00:19:38.950 impulses she has carried all season long, ultimately leading to 347 00:19:38.990 --> 00:19:43.069 a therapeutic breakthrough for the character. 348 00:19:43.089 --> 00:19:45.670 So then, I will save my life. 349 00:19:46.069 --> 00:19:48.400 Well at any rate let's talk about what our fans 350 00:19:48.420 --> 00:19:51.460 thought about this episode. ashley kells uh said it was 351 00:19:51.500 --> 00:19:55.029 a five these stories this season have been pretty good 352 00:19:55.089 --> 00:19:58.349 and certainly not as bad as the alternative factor plato's 353 00:19:58.410 --> 00:20:03.210 stepchildren and code of honor thanks ashley preach i just 354 00:20:03.250 --> 00:20:05.650 wish that there was less gimmicky episodes in a row 355 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:08.650 yeah Strange New World Season 1 and 2 were very good. 356 00:20:08.710 --> 00:20:11.509 Season 3 was pretty good. Season 4 has been decent. 357 00:20:11.529 --> 00:20:12.609 Thanks, Ashley. 358 00:20:13.630 --> 00:20:15.890 James Young, a top fan, gave it a 7. I 359 00:20:16.450 --> 00:20:19.309 like this season with its fantasy episodes as opposed to 360 00:20:19.349 --> 00:20:22.849 a season with one big bad enemy like the Gorn 361 00:20:22.890 --> 00:20:25.430 or the Klingons. This is a good change of pace. 362 00:20:25.990 --> 00:20:28.069 Next season should be back on track with all the 363 00:20:28.190 --> 00:20:32.380 episodes setting up the series finale. You know, I think 364 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:34.519 that's a good point, James. We haven't really talked about 365 00:20:34.579 --> 00:20:36.859 how a lot of Strange New Worlds and Discovery in 366 00:20:36.900 --> 00:20:38.819 particular were all based on kind of the one big 367 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:42.190 bad guy at the end of the season. Even Starfleet Academy, right? 368 00:20:42.349 --> 00:20:45.950 So good point on that. Brian Lombard, it's a solid 10, 369 00:20:45.950 --> 00:20:49.509 but I give The Way to Eden a 9. So 370 00:20:49.549 --> 00:20:52.289 is he trying to show you where the bar is there? 371 00:20:52.609 --> 00:20:58.480 I think so. Pamela Tejarczyk gave it an 8.5. Remember 372 00:20:58.539 --> 00:21:02.160 how I said during the Case of Charoscuro episode that 373 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:05.079 I was tiring of the La'an story, but I would 374 00:21:05.099 --> 00:21:09.099 withhold judgment on the storyline upon watching this episode. My 375 00:21:09.220 --> 00:21:12.049 fear was that La'an either would become a villain, letting 376 00:21:12.089 --> 00:21:15.089 her genetics determine her future, which would have been against 377 00:21:15.150 --> 00:21:17.710 the ethos of Star Trek, or let whatever happened in 378 00:21:17.750 --> 00:21:21.730 this episode do nothing at all. This episode surprised me 379 00:21:21.789 --> 00:21:24.680 because La'an changed for the better, and gain some inner peace. 380 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:29.529 The root of Laon's issues weren't anger, but self-loathing. She 381 00:21:29.569 --> 00:21:33.009 hates herself as the childhood bullying with which she was 382 00:21:33.069 --> 00:21:36.970 tortured leads her to have that eternal tape recording playing 383 00:21:37.009 --> 00:21:40.690 in her head. She is unlovable and incapable of loving 384 00:21:40.750 --> 00:21:45.410 herself and others. By confronting her doppelganger, Princess Talia, who 385 00:21:45.470 --> 00:21:49.430 loves herself and gives infinite love to someone else, Prince Dashing, 386 00:21:49.490 --> 00:21:52.720 who is a monster, Laan learns to love herself and 387 00:21:52.740 --> 00:21:56.099 to open herself up to love of not just the 388 00:21:56.140 --> 00:21:59.720 romantic kind beyond the nicely positive conclusion of Laan's arc. 389 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:03.299 I love the costumes and the fairy tale setting. Anson 390 00:22:03.339 --> 00:22:07.049 and Ethan's comedic timing as their alternates was brilliant. It 391 00:22:07.089 --> 00:22:09.829 did nothing to lessen my Anson Mount crush. And yes, 392 00:22:09.930 --> 00:22:12.750 the soap opera episode made my heart go pitter patter. 393 00:22:13.470 --> 00:22:15.430 I took a half point off as I did wish 394 00:22:15.490 --> 00:22:18.690 Laan would have actually had the last scene not be 395 00:22:18.730 --> 00:22:22.799 a date. even though I am a hopeless romantic, but 396 00:22:22.980 --> 00:22:26.960 a therapy session, but we probably couldn't get Deirdre Hall again. 397 00:22:26.980 --> 00:22:29.880 And the full point is off for some of the 398 00:22:29.940 --> 00:22:33.799 hand-waving plot holes, like how was this a ship? That 399 00:22:33.819 --> 00:22:35.920 was a great review, Pam. 8.5. 400 00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:36.200 Thanks. 401 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:40.900 Dennis Vayu Jr. said, despite being yet another gimmick episode, 402 00:22:40.940 --> 00:22:43.529 I rather enjoy this one. 8 out of 10. John 403 00:22:43.740 --> 00:22:46.529 Romleski said, definitely not the best, but a solid 6 404 00:22:46.529 --> 00:22:50.569 out of 10. Chris Barnes, a solid 8.5. The storyline 405 00:22:50.589 --> 00:22:53.089 was kind of hokey, but the ending made it come together. 406 00:22:53.150 --> 00:22:56.950 Bonus points. Oh, man, do I have to say that? Well, 407 00:22:57.009 --> 00:23:00.049 Chris said it. He said bonus points for the cleavage. 408 00:23:00.569 --> 00:23:02.210 You know, so we do have some people out there 409 00:23:02.230 --> 00:23:04.309 who are all about it. Brent Walker gave it a 2. 410 00:23:04.309 --> 00:23:07.069 Some funny stuff, but this could have been any other 411 00:23:07.089 --> 00:23:10.730

television show. Same for most of the rest of Season 4. 412 00:23:10.730 --> 00:23:14.240 Lars Grenluff gave it a 9. It was like old 413 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:17.980 TOS and TNG, plus... development of one of the characters 414 00:23:18.019 --> 00:23:23.279 like in voyager real trek thanks lars renee lun jensen 415 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:26.650 said was fun i would say a solid eight so 416 00:23:26.789 --> 00:23:29.049 our fan scores this week i i would have to 417 00:23:29.089 --> 00:23:30.750 go back and look maybe charles can find this real 418 00:23:30.769 --> 00:23:33.289 quickly but i was wondering how this score of 7.2 419 00:23:33.289 --> 00:23:37.809 by the fans compares to the fan score that they 420 00:23:37.910 --> 00:23:42.009 actually gave Elysian Kingdom back in the day. How quickly 421 00:23:42.069 --> 00:23:44.950 can we find that information if I vamp for just 422 00:23:44.970 --> 00:23:48.769 a half a second and draw out the end of 423 00:23:48.829 --> 00:23:49.289 this sentence? 424 00:23:49.309 --> 00:23:54.299 I think I remember seeing it like it was an 8.4. 425 00:23:54.299 --> 00:23:56.180 I know it's in our list. At any rate, I 426 00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:58.660 remember that the fans really liked that episode, and this 427 00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:00.420 one is still in the high, you know, in the 428 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:02.980 7s here. So I think this is still, I mean, 429 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:06.900 it's the low 7s, you know. This is a C-plus 430 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:10.759 grade or something like that. So better than average. 431 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:11.450 8.4. 432 00:24:11.450 --> 00:24:12.140 8.4. 433 00:24:12.140 --> 00:24:13.670 So they really liked Elysian Kingdom. 434 00:24:13.809 --> 00:24:15.190 They liked it originally. 435 00:24:15.470 --> 00:24:18.609 So this is a point lower. But given the context 436 00:24:18.789 --> 00:24:21.519 of what's going on in this season, I would say 437 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:25.119 that this average is high towards the end of what 438 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.579 our fans have generally given episodes this season. 439 00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:32.339 There you go. All right. 440 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:36.960 Well, I can tell you honestly that that's a lot 441 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:39.089 higher than I would have given it. 442 00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:42.579 So, Charles, what did Paul give it? 443 00:24:42.700 --> 00:24:43.960 Paul gave it a six. 444 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.720 A six. Okay. 445 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:50.029 Yeah, Paul gave it a six. And what did he say? 446 00:24:50.089 --> 00:24:53.150 He had some comments. Oh, yeah, he said, very annoying, 447 00:24:53.369 --> 00:24:56.849 infantile episode, but Anson Mount's performance bumped me up to 448 00:24:56.890 --> 00:24:57.289 a six. 449 00:24:59.730 --> 00:25:00.089 Okay. 450 00:25:00.289 --> 00:25:03.559 Well, that's cool. So we're starting off with a six. 451 00:25:04.339 --> 00:25:06.119 I can tell you. Well, no, I won't tell you. 452 00:25:06.259 --> 00:25:09.640 I'll tell you later. So why don't we jump in, 453 00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:11.839 which I tried to earlier, but I was out of order. 454 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.789 Because I'm old and senile, and I've got a bad heart, 455 00:25:15.809 --> 00:25:17.930 so I can do that. No, you don't. 456 00:25:18.029 --> 00:25:22.650 You're fine. Well, I have to say that the notes 457 00:25:22.730 --> 00:25:27.990 about Pamela... I really got a kick out of this 458 00:25:28.009 --> 00:25:33.319 episode because I am, I guess, hopeless romantic. There was 459 00:25:33.339 --> 00:25:36.559 so much about it that I love. And I'll say, 460 00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:40.660 first off, I wish I had not been so that 461 00:25:40.779 --> 00:25:44.220 I could have sent Christina Chong her dog, Runa, who 462 00:25:44.259 --> 00:25:48.059 she brings everywhere at GalaxyCon this past. I wish I 463 00:25:48.099 --> 00:25:52.289 could have gotten a picture with all of them. That's 464 00:25:52.309 --> 00:25:56.079 sort of making some... serious money you know i can 465 00:25:56.140 --> 00:25:59.859 tell you that so. 466 00:25:58.849 --> 00:26:02.470 Do you think the dog gets like a separate salary. 467 00:26:02.029 --> 00:26:06.349 Absolutely they do having um and commercials and stuff well 468 00:26:06.369 --> 00:26:08.579 there was one time where there was a a dog 469 00:26:08.619 --> 00:26:10.759 was in it and the dog made at least as 470 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:15.200 much wheat as we did and yeah i'm not kidding 471 00:26:15.380 --> 00:26:19.960 they absolutely Yes, that dog is earning her, you know, 472 00:26:20.259 --> 00:26:22.079 puppy cat treats and everything. 473 00:26:22.099 --> 00:26:24.720 Milk bones, baby, milk bones. 474 00:26:24.819 --> 00:26:28.119 She certainly is. And having seen, catching a glimpse of 475 00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:32.009 her in real life, she is absolutely adorable. And next 476 00:26:32.109 --> 00:26:37.670 time I have to meet her because, you know, adorable dog. References, 477 00:26:37.890 --> 00:26:43.569 you know, just crack me up. Where are they called? 478 00:26:44.049 --> 00:26:44.470 Where are they? 479 00:26:46.349 --> 00:26:49.809 That was, that was because the, the, that was a 480 00:26:49.970 --> 00:26:53.069 like in the moment Pike thing because all. And so 481 00:26:53.150 --> 00:26:55.049 he looked at the, he looked at. 482 00:26:55.369 --> 00:26:55.650 Yeah. 483 00:26:55.710 --> 00:26:57.890 So he looked at the book and kind of like, 484 00:26:57.950 --> 00:26:59.990 and then in the moment was like, and this is 485 00:27:00.009 --> 00:27:01.470 Benny Russell. And that's why Pelley. 486 00:27:01.730 --> 00:27:02.250 Oh yeah. 487 00:27:02.430 --> 00:27:03.890 I'm Benny Russell. 488 00:27:04.099 --> 00:27:05.259 Um, costumes. 489 00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:05.759 Oh my gosh. 490 00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:07.539 To die for. 491 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:08.140 Um, I'm sure. 492

00:27:10.980 --> 00:27:14.210 Even though they are way beyond my college, they came 493 00:27:14.450 --> 00:27:17.170 to me and looked at these. God, I was thrilled 494 00:27:17.210 --> 00:27:20.710 to make either one of the gowns that La'an wore, 495 00:27:21.190 --> 00:27:25.579 Princess Talia wore, because they were just absolutely stunning. I 496 00:27:25.660 --> 00:27:29.900 do like very much that, like what Pamela said, La'an 497 00:27:30.700 --> 00:27:34.569 coming to terms with her, the hatred about being teased. 498 00:27:34.940 --> 00:27:37.420 which kind of reminds me of Kalana Torres. Do you 499 00:27:37.460 --> 00:27:41.019 remember when she threw all this stuff and reflecting back 500 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:45.109 on her childhood and how she thought that she was 501 00:27:45.170 --> 00:27:48.990 the cause for her father leaving? So that sort of 502 00:27:49.549 --> 00:27:53.750 put me in mind that Kalana came to terms with 503 00:27:53.789 --> 00:27:58.460 her both sides of who she was. So finally we 504 00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:01.690 get on, you know, look like he's going to be 505 00:28:01.869 --> 00:28:04.509 an enjoyable character for the rest of the time and 506 00:28:04.529 --> 00:28:07.450 not some, you know, hokey bad person. 507 00:28:07.950 --> 00:28:10.880 All right. We got a six. We got an eight. 508 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.220 Let's continue on the train and move right on over 509 00:28:13.259 --> 00:28:13.839 to Charles. 510 00:28:13.859 --> 00:28:17.920 Okay. Thank you, Jim. As you guys started to catch 511 00:28:17.980 --> 00:28:21.819 a little bit of one of my references, you mentioned 512 00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:25.490 Benny Russell, but you didn't actually mention exactly who he is. 513 00:28:25.730 --> 00:28:28.569 For the fans who had forgotten Benny, If you go 514 00:28:28.630 --> 00:28:32.509 back to the episode Far Beyond the Stars in DS9, 515 00:28:33.210 --> 00:28:37.720 when Sisko was playing the author, his name was Benny Russell. 516 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:42.079 And he did actually write a book about Elysium. It's 517 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.910 actually one of his titles that he did actually write 518 00:28:45.049 --> 00:28:46.210 in that episode. 519 00:28:46.269 --> 00:28:48.960 Hell yeah, let's see. Okay. 520 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.269 It was an interesting, long about way, way of trying 521 00:28:52.289 --> 00:28:55.190 to move Pelia off the ship. But as I re-listened 522 00:28:55.250 --> 00:28:57.309 to it, saying, oh, okay, we got rid of her 523 00:28:57.349 --> 00:29:00.390 a little bit like we did getting Omega's daughter. Then 524 00:29:00.450 --> 00:29:03.180 I started hearing the talk in there. And I had 525 00:29:03.220 --> 00:29:07.039 to laugh when they said, she got with the cook. 526 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:08.940 Named Max. 527 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:12.059 Was he happen to be Miracle Max? Which those that 528 00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:15.519 might not know, but I'm sure Eric's grinning, Miracle Max 529 00:29:15.619 --> 00:29:20.329 was the character that Billy Crystal played while she played 530 00:29:20.349 --> 00:29:23.210 the older woman that lived with him. So I thought 531 00:29:23.230 --> 00:29:27.789 that was a nice, funny reference. Like, okay, yeah, let's 532 00:29:27.910 --> 00:29:31.750 end this series by tying her off with Princess Bride. 533 00:29:33.190 --> 00:29:36.599 I mean, you know, apparently she spent a bunch of 534 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:38.829 time with the doctor, so it only makes sense that 535 00:29:38.869 --> 00:29:41.000 she has to go and spend some time making the 536 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:43.299 Princess Bride now right yeah. 537 00:29:43.500 --> 00:29:45.599 I think the character you're looking for she played as 538 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.160 Valerie in the Princess Bride yeah. 539 00:29:49.660 --> 00:29:52.140 It's Valerie, and Valerie lived with Mac. 540 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.049 And don't forget that she helped write 2001 A Space 541 00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.950 Odyssey with Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick. We can't 542 00:29:57.990 --> 00:30:01.190 let that slide. And she comes from Burlington, Vermont, so, 543 00:30:01.269 --> 00:30:01.950 you know. 544 00:30:02.029 --> 00:30:04.950 I mean, they've built up quite a Pellia lore in 545 00:30:04.990 --> 00:30:06.650 a very short amount of time. 546 00:30:06.670 --> 00:30:07.329 Yeah. 547 00:30:07.849 --> 00:30:09.569 I know a lot of people are— sorry, Charles, I don't 548 00:30:09.589 --> 00:30:11.960 mean to— I' ll talk about Pellia during my time, sorry. 549 00:30:12.220 --> 00:30:12.400 Yep. 550 00:30:13.299 --> 00:30:17.710 Well, the fact is I see fans, including at least 551 00:30:17.890 --> 00:30:20.069 one or two hosts who sit there and are happy 552 00:30:20.150 --> 00:30:20.950 Pelia's gone. 553 00:30:21.150 --> 00:30:24.660 I liked Pelia. Pelia was a unique character. 554 00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:28.119 I guess if you really want Carole King exiting, what 555 00:30:28.140 --> 00:30:30.109 a way to do it by putting her out in 556 00:30:30.140 --> 00:30:33.970 a theme. tying her to princess bride as of course 557 00:30:34.029 --> 00:30:35.930 jen i that's why i was trying to say at 558 00:30:35.950 --> 00:30:38.430 the beginning of the show look at jim saying as 559 00:30:38.450 --> 00:30:41.130 you wish of course that was the line from the 560 00:30:41.190 --> 00:30:44.900 prince interesting a prince dashing as a werewolf and of 561 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.660 course the queen showing up floating in the middle of 562 00:30:48.740 --> 00:30:53.059 space and it's like yeah i can't our communication object 563 00:30:53.099 --> 00:30:53.680 kind of looks like. 564 00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:59.200 Oh i look good it's like with a That was, yeah, 565 00:30:59.309 --> 00:31:02.009 or her, I was like, that was a good one there. 566 00:31:02.029 --> 00:31:05.130 I didn't get a lot of notes that I wanted 567 00:31:05.210 -->

00:31:08.730 to in here, even though the... Couldn't find the exact 568 00:31:08.789 --> 00:31:11.970 sorts of Metal Dragon, but it was definitely a good 569 00:31:12.049 --> 00:31:13.250 lore reference. 570 00:31:13.269 --> 00:31:14.150 Oh, Iron Dragon? 571 00:31:14.210 --> 00:31:14.869 Iron Dragon. 572 00:31:15.630 --> 00:31:20.359 Well, I'm sure that there's another specific reference out there. 573 00:31:20.420 --> 00:31:23.200 I didn't actually Google this, but I will tell you 574 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.609 that one of the best board games ever invented... is 575 00:31:26.670 --> 00:31:30.670 called Iron Dragon, and it's basically like, it's like the 576 00:31:30.789 --> 00:31:33.450 ones where you draw the track on the dots, like 577 00:31:34.470 --> 00:31:38.410 Empire Builder or European Rails or those types of things, 578 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.079 and Iron Dragon is a fantastic version of that game. 579 00:31:41.299 --> 00:31:43.759 I'm sure there's another reference, but immediately when they said 580 00:31:43.859 --> 00:31:46.519 Iron Dragon, I was like, oh my god, Iron Dragon! 581 00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:50.019 But I think I'll go with this one. We didn't 582 00:31:50.059 --> 00:31:55.890 get a chance to mention that Una and... ortegas's characters 583 00:31:56.049 --> 00:31:58.970 interesting choice to make them a romantic couple and how 584 00:31:59.049 --> 00:32:04.410 dashing kind of goes off to fake himself when he 585 00:32:04.609 --> 00:32:07.130 becomes a wolf and then goes back to human when 586 00:32:07.289 --> 00:32:10.210 una almost i guess tries to slay him but overall 587 00:32:10.250 --> 00:32:13.660 this one i'm gonna give a seven it wasn't my 588 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:19.059 favorite episode but as v says the costuming i did 589 00:32:19.099 --> 00:32:22.660 rather enjoy some many of the princess bride references just 590 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:26.200 because it's a fun movie, but I will score it 591 00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:28.869 there and pass my bidding back to Jim. 592 00:32:28.930 --> 00:32:32.170 Yeah, I think we'll just continue on the little trail 593 00:32:32.230 --> 00:32:33.910 and now we're going to work our way up to Eric. 594 00:32:34.049 --> 00:32:37.339 Alright, yeah, so I have been saying kind of all 595 00:32:37.410 --> 00:32:40.700 season how I've been upset with the fact that I 596 00:32:40.700 --> 00:32:43.279 feel like they've done Lawn Dirty this season. They just 597 00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:48.099 really haven't had a good La'an arc. And in fact, 598 00:32:48.259 --> 00:32:50.859 after this episode was over, my wife and I had 599 00:32:50.900 --> 00:32:53.299 to kind of go back and look up the end 600 00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.890 of last season, which remember, this is like where it 601 00:32:56.930 --> 00:33:00.269 all begins, right? Her like latent DNA gets triggered or 602 00:33:00.309 --> 00:33:02.470 something at the end of last season, which is why 603 00:33:02.569 --> 00:33:06.710

she's so angry and has all these urges this season. 604 00:33:06.730 --> 00:33:12.819 I was really hoping for a very cool like resolution 605 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.140 of that kind of arc because it's really been bugging 606 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.250 me this season. And I will say that I think 607 00:33:17.289 --> 00:33:20.319 this episode gave me that. I really liked this whole 608 00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:23.359 idea of showing two sides of the same character. This 609 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:27.880 is a classic trope. I can't remember if Charles mentioned 610 00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:34.529 Enemy Within during his cadet training, but I think of 611 00:33:34.569 --> 00:33:39.029 that episode where Kirk's evil half gets separated from him 612 00:33:39.089 --> 00:33:41.869 and they sort of... You can see those things out 613 00:33:41.910 --> 00:33:43.650 in the open. I think we've had a few different 614 00:33:43.710 --> 00:33:45.690 episodes of Star Trek where that happens. So this was 615 00:33:45.730 --> 00:33:49.150 just another riff on that. So the fact that this 616 00:33:49.190 --> 00:33:52.589 entire episode was a delusion of the Laan story, I 617 00:33:52.630 --> 00:33:55.319 really liked that part of it. And I liked that 618 00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.140 it plugged back into the Elysium Kingdom as well. I 619 00:33:58.180 --> 00:34:01.339 know a lot of our Trek-sports didn't care for that episode, 620 00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:04.420 thought it was silly, dumb, whatever. I think V and 621 00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:06.559 I thought it was delightful, if I remember correctly. 622 00:34:06.900 --> 00:34:07.119 And so. 623 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:11.260 I also found this one delightful, though I kind of 624 00:34:11.619 --> 00:34:13.460 am with the fans. I feel like this one's about 625 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.280 a point lower than that one for me. It didn't 626 00:34:15.340 --> 00:34:17.510 quite have the zhuzh that that one had, and I 627 00:34:17.550 --> 00:34:20.989 think it's because it wasn't setting up a resolution of 628 00:34:21.050 --> 00:34:25.429 the Mbenga story. This is almost like a spinoff story, right? 629 00:34:25.469 --> 00:34:29.570 Because the Elysian Kinnings started with Mbenga's daughter, but now 630 00:34:29.590 --> 00:34:32.840 we're telling a story about La'an in that same universe, so... 631 00:34:33.210 --> 00:34:35.630 I do like that there's an entity out there where 632 00:34:35.650 --> 00:34:38.920 this fantasy stuff can happen. I think that's very Star Trek-y, 633 00:34:39.699 --> 00:34:43.500 and it's pretty cool. Some of the writing in this 634 00:34:43.579 --> 00:34:48.619 episode was not great, though. It felt to me a 635 00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:51.079 little bit like they couldn't figure out whether they wanted 636 00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:54.010 to go lean into the cheese a little bit or 637 00:34:54.070 --> 00:34:58.190 lean into the seriousness of the stories or lean into 638 00:34:59.150 --> 00:35:02.389 the kind of ridiculousness of the characters but play them straight. 639 00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:04.500 And there were a few different moments, I think, throughout 640 00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.300 the entire episode where you saw all three of those things. 641 00:35:07.980 --> 00:35:11.090 So it doesn't hold together as kind of like a 642 00:35:11.789 --> 00:35:16.289 cohesive performance with all of the cast members to me. 643 00:35:16.889 --> 00:35:19.800 Like if you if you workshopped this for like three 644 00:35:19.860 --> 00:35:22.300 months on stage and then performed it, I think you 645 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.739 could get there. with maybe a few script revisions. But yeah, 646 00:35:25.860 --> 00:35:28.360 it just didn't totally wow me in terms of the writing. 647 00:35:28.579 --> 00:35:31.360 So you got La'an, and then you got Pelia. And 648 00:35:31.579 --> 00:35:34.800 I'm kind of with V. I haven't been as down 649 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:38.719 on Pelia. I haven't completely loved her. I think sometimes 650 00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:40.360 the way that they write her is almost like a... 651 00:35:40.409 --> 00:35:42.010 I don't know, it's like a person in a room 652 00:35:42.070 --> 00:35:46.030 with a condition where they just burst out saying something 653 00:35:46.070 --> 00:35:47.889 that may or may not have any relevance to what's 654 00:35:47.929 --> 00:35:51.230 actually going on. At times, they write her like that. 655 00:35:51.289 --> 00:35:55.230 But generally... She's really goofy. It's Carol Kane. She's an 656 00:35:55.250 --> 00:35:59.030 amazing actress, right? And she has this quirkiness to her. 657 00:35:59.070 --> 00:36:00.610 And I love the fact that she lives in this, 658 00:36:01.670 --> 00:36:03.849 you know, the quarters with all the telephones and like 659 00:36:03.869 --> 00:36:05.730 the weird stuff going on in there and that she's 660 00:36:05.869 --> 00:36:09.820 hung out with Doctor Who. Now she's going to go 661 00:36:10.420 --> 00:36:13.300 like hang out with Miracle Max, right? It just like 662 00:36:13.380 --> 00:36:17.539 the lore that they've woven for her character, for the 663 00:36:17.579 --> 00:36:21.820 Pellia character in a very short amount of time. has 664 00:36:21.860 --> 00:36:24.400 been fast and furious and it doesn't bother me one 665 00:36:24.420 --> 00:36:27.940 bit because it seems to fit her whole like je 666 00:36:27.980 --> 00:36:32.409 ne sais quoi that they've, they've woven into this, um, uh, 667 00:36:32.730 --> 00:36:36.389 this show. So, uh, I liked the Pellaea send off. Uh, 668 00:36:36.769 --> 00:36:38.610 I doubt we'll see her again, but that was cool. 669 00:36:38.630 --> 00:36:40.090 There's a good way to kind of write her off 670 00:36:40.110 --> 00:36:43.309 the show. Uh, Charles, yes, very much. I enjoyed the, 671 00:36:43.510 --> 00:36:47.300 the princess bride references. Uh, you said Miracle Max, you 672 00:36:47.340 --> 00:36:50.699 said as you wish,

uh, Also, they went into the 673 00:36:50.820 --> 00:36:55.420 Swamp of Infinite Death, which is not unlike the fire 674 00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:59.619 swamp from Princess Bride, where the rodents of unusual size live. 675 00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:01.940 There was also, I think, a Little Shop of Horrors 676 00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:04.000 plant in there. And I was trying to remember whether 677 00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:07.119 Carol Kane had ever been in a production of Little 678 00:37:07.139 --> 00:37:09.519 Shop of Horrors. But there was one moment where there 679 00:37:09.539 --> 00:37:13.369 was a giant Venus flytrap snapping something in this episode. 680 00:37:13.550 --> 00:37:15.630 And it was during the Pellaea stuff. And I was like, 681 00:37:15.849 --> 00:37:17.769 I wonder if Pellaea has been in it or if 682 00:37:17.929 --> 00:37:20.630 Carol Kane's been in it. a little shop of horrors 683 00:37:20.690 --> 00:37:22.570 along the way. I didn't have a chance to look 684 00:37:22.590 --> 00:37:24.170 that up, but it might be fun to. 685 00:37:24.190 --> 00:37:26.389 I was thinking the bog of eternal stench. 686 00:37:27.030 --> 00:37:30.420 Yeah, there's also that. Yeah, for sure. There was one 687 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:32.940 kind of cool, like I watched this episode with my wife. 688 00:37:32.980 --> 00:37:35.059 We usually watch strange new worlds together. She is not 689 00:37:35.099 --> 00:37:37.480 a Trekkie. She, you know, she's familiar with kind of 690 00:37:37.500 --> 00:37:40.380 like the general stuff, but like she has been watching 691 00:37:40.420 --> 00:37:43.820 discovery and strange new worlds with me. And today, this 692 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:48.550 episode gave me the best possible example of one little 693 00:37:48.630 --> 00:37:51.329 technical thing that David will get off on and maybe 694 00:37:51.449 --> 00:37:53.489 none of the rest of you will. But I know 695 00:37:53.530 --> 00:37:57.170 David is familiar with this phenomenon. So in Star Trek 696 00:37:57.190 --> 00:38:00.809 of old, in TOS and into the next generation and 697 00:38:00.849 --> 00:38:04.329 all the way up to Voyager and Enterprise times, When 698 00:38:04.369 --> 00:38:06.750 the ship gets shot and the shields are up, a 699 00:38:06.849 --> 00:38:10.429 sphere of shields forms around the ship and it repels 700 00:38:10.510 --> 00:38:14.349 the shot, right? So it's like, it's like, so people 701 00:38:14.369 --> 00:38:17.730 who are into like tech geekery call that bubble shields. 702 00:38:17.929 --> 00:38:21.570 Ever since Discovery, they have had a different kind of shields. 703 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.000 People who are into tech geekery now call these skin 704 00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:27.980 shields and they're the shields that are right against the 705 00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:32.010 surface of the hull. And this episode had such cool 706 00:38:32.070 --> 00:38:35.050 special effects when the dragon was coming in and breathing 707 00:38:35.170 -->

00:38:38.369 fire on the hall. And you saw the skin shields 708 00:38:38.409 --> 00:38:41.829 like peeling back with this like blue luminescent. I mean, 709 00:38:41.929 --> 00:38:44.360 it was just, it looked so cool. So I know 710 00:38:44.380 --> 00:38:46.420 it's hard to be impressed with special effects these days 711 00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:49.500 because they're everywhere. And like AI is just like where 712 00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:51.460 we live now. But like, I just thought that was 713 00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:56.190 an excellent effect that was really enjoyable to watch. So 714 00:38:56.730 --> 00:38:58.789 I didn't think this was a deep episode. I mean, 715 00:38:58.829 --> 00:39:01.710 it was kind of like it was razor thin plot. 716 00:39:02.150 --> 00:39:04.550 Let's be honest. But we did get resolution of the 717 00:39:04.590 --> 00:39:07.739 La'an thing, which I was satisfied with. And it had 718 00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:10.099 just enough kitsch to it to keep me interested. So 719 00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:11.760 I'm going to give this episode a seven. 720 00:39:11.860 --> 00:39:15.980 All right. A seven from Eric. So David, you get 721 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:17.940 to be next on our train. 722 00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:22.360 Hey, true, true. All right. So yeah, as many of 723 00:39:22.380 --> 00:39:26.400 you don't know, I am a very big fantasy-style kind 724 00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:28.590 of guy, and I love The Lord of the Rings. 725 00:39:28.619 --> 00:39:31.329 And also, Tuchel mentioned that he didn't know of a 726 00:39:31.349 --> 00:39:34.469 famous red dragon. I would almost suggest Smaug. That's another 727 00:39:34.510 --> 00:39:39.090 reference that another dragon appeared. So, I love dragons, and 728 00:39:39.110 --> 00:39:42.090 I love what Captain Pike mentions about, like, how he 729 00:39:42.130 --> 00:39:44.230 likes to read about dragons, and that's how he knew 730 00:39:44.289 --> 00:39:46.489 about what he was about to do, kind of thing, 731 00:39:46.590 --> 00:39:48.909 when he attacked the ship. So, it's like, you know, 732 00:39:48.949 --> 00:39:49.250 he just. 733 00:39:49.909 --> 00:39:52.469 You mean the sniveling version of Captain Pike? 734 00:39:52.690 --> 00:39:54.769 Yeah, exactly. I can't remember his name. 735 00:39:55.190 --> 00:39:55.550 I don't. 736 00:39:56.469 --> 00:39:56.690 Okay. 737 00:39:57.510 --> 00:40:00.210 Yeah, but anyways, I do have to agree with Paul 738 00:40:00.409 --> 00:40:04.010 and everybody else when they said that Anson Mount and 739 00:40:04.929 --> 00:40:07.710 Ethan Peck did a really good job on their part 740 00:40:07.789 --> 00:40:12.050 to act. I actually did enjoy them when they were 741 00:40:12.090 --> 00:40:13.889 on the ship and everything and just the way that 742 00:40:13.909 --> 00:40:15.809 they were trying to fit in. And then they were 743 00:40:15.849 --> 00:40:17.530 looking at each other in the mirror trying to, like, 744 00:40:18.219 --> 00:40:22.559 say the words, and Bach was like, fascinating. Fascinating. But, 745 00:40:22.900 --> 00:40:27.340 and also, the other thing, too, was when Anson, the 746 00:40:27.380 --> 00:40:31.119 coward character, saw Uhura for the first time, just the 747 00:40:31.340 --> 00:40:34.889 face he made, it was like, it cracked me up. But, yeah, 748 00:40:35.110 --> 00:40:39.230 a lot of good acting. I did like the werewolf scene. 749 00:40:39.250 --> 00:40:43.070 That actually kind of, that actually kind of made me, 750 00:40:43.309 --> 00:40:46.650 what's the word, I didn't see that coming. I knew 751 00:40:46.690 --> 00:40:48.639 that they talked about the werewolf and it kind of 752 00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:52.179 reminded me a little bit of Harry Potter because you 753 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.500 knew that for some odd reason that the character was 754 00:40:55.619 --> 00:40:57.800 going to be the werewolf but I actually thought he 755 00:40:57.820 --> 00:41:01.780 went to fight off some other beast that he saw something. 756 00:41:01.900 --> 00:41:03.780 For some reason I didn't know why I didn't see 757 00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:08.760 that coming. But yeah, this whole thing where Charles mentioned 758 00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:12.130 about the turning into a dragon, I have to admit 759 00:41:12.789 --> 00:41:16.130 growing up, that was my favorite Disney movie ever, The 760 00:41:16.170 --> 00:41:18.449 Sleeping Beauty, just because it had the dragon in it. 761 00:41:19.110 --> 00:41:22.150 I actually enjoyed that part and I liked the way 762 00:41:22.210 --> 00:41:25.989 that they did it. This whole episode was definitely like 763 00:41:26.050 --> 00:41:29.019 a D & D sequence where it was just like, yeah, 764 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:31.239 it does magic. It doesn't have to make sense. It's just, 765 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:33.599 you know, it works. Why not? That's what makes a 766 00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:36.019 fantasy movie fun for me. So it's just like, yeah. 767 00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.400 And the fact that they had a dragon, I'm not 768 00:41:38.460 --> 00:41:41.139 saying this is my favorite episode out of the whole thing. 769 00:41:41.179 --> 00:41:44.179 And yes, this is Still somewhat of a gimmicky episode 770 00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:49.619 for the season. Still a series. But I don't know. 771 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:55.400 I really like to look at dragons. I actually read 772 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:57.619 a lot about dragons, so I know quite a bit 773 00:41:57.639 --> 00:41:58.909 about a lot. I love it. 774 00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:03.769 I love that David's analysis. Dragons are fucking awesome, and 775 00:42:03.809 --> 00:42:07.929 this episode was awesome. Yeah, I don't know. 776 00:42:08.050 --> 00:42:14.670 Anyways, okay, so... But other than that, the episode itself, 777 00:42:15.329 --> 00:42:20.929 I did enjoy the background, the story for the La'an 778 00:42:20.969 --> 00:42:25.900 character and how she was trying to find her inner self, 779

00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.280 I guess. That part actually kind of made the story 780 00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:36.000 plot kind of worth watching because everybody has a good 781 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.610 side and a bad side, and a lot of people 782 00:42:38.670 --> 00:42:42.739 don't like to face their bad side of themselves at 783 00:42:42.900 --> 00:42:47.739 all and to me I actually enjoyed the sequence of 784 00:42:47.780 --> 00:42:51.309 them fighting with their swords you would think that what's 785 00:42:51.349 --> 00:42:54.469 her name Princess Talia was like you know just a 786 00:42:54.969 --> 00:42:57.349 princess like didn't really know how to fight but man 787 00:42:57.369 --> 00:42:59.469 did she know how to fight and the fact that 788 00:42:59.590 --> 00:43:03.750 she was fighting herself made me wonder like you really 789 00:43:03.929 --> 00:43:08.159 don't know how people can react especially when you're facing 790 00:43:08.179 --> 00:43:10.500 yourself and it's just like The fact that they just 791 00:43:10.579 --> 00:43:13.760 couldn't defeat each other was like, whoa, that's actually kind 792 00:43:13.780 --> 00:43:18.320 of interesting. But yeah, overall, I really did enjoy this episode, 793 00:43:18.469 --> 00:43:20.530 and I'm kind of up there with you guys with 794 00:43:20.590 --> 00:43:24.969 the whole high numbers, but there was this one thing 795 00:43:25.030 --> 00:43:26.989 I did want to add really quick, and that was, 796 00:43:27.210 --> 00:43:29.230 it didn't make sense to me, and I have to 797 00:43:29.269 --> 00:43:32.510 be nitpicky about this, about the fact that when they 798 00:43:32.570 --> 00:43:34.820 first came to the planet and they were looking all 799 00:43:34.860 --> 00:43:37.659 around and stuff, and they came across this Nvenga character, 800 00:43:38.300 --> 00:43:42.550 it was almost as if The story forgot about him. 801 00:43:43.130 --> 00:43:45.010 And he was just like in the background when they 802 00:43:45.050 --> 00:43:47.880 were all just kind of like, you know, talking about 803 00:43:47.900 --> 00:43:51.659 what to do. And even the security guard, La'an, was like, 804 00:43:51.900 --> 00:43:53.820 had her back to him. It's like, I thought he 805 00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:56.559 was a big threat. What was the point of just 806 00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:59.710 having him there? And then was he there the entire 807 00:43:59.769 --> 00:44:02.789 time when they all changed out of their clothes? I 808 00:44:02.809 --> 00:44:03.130 don't know. 809 00:44:03.150 --> 00:44:04.230 That was kind of weird. Yeah. 810 00:44:05.219 --> 00:44:07.710 But, I mean, the fact that he drew a sword 811 00:44:07.730 --> 00:44:09.989 and everything, and it was just like, it was just 812 00:44:10.030 --> 00:44:12.929 a big threatening scene. It was just kind of weird 813 00:44:12.949 --> 00:44:14.489 to me. I was like, okay, they just kind of 814 00:44:14.550 --> 00:44:18.030 ignored him. It was like, oh, well. But, yeah, that 815 00:44:18.050 --> 00:44:20.010 was the only thing I didn't really like about this episode. 816 00:44:20.130 --> 00:44:24.250 But other than that, yeah. Ah, dragons, what can I say? 817 00:44:25.510 --> 00:44:28.170 I'm going to have to bump this up to about a, 818 00:44:28.329 --> 00:44:30.170 not quite an eight. I'm going to have to go 819 00:44:30.210 --> 00:44:34.510 a little bit in between, probably a 7.7 for me. 820 00:44:34.590 --> 00:44:37.469 Well, that's cool. 7.7. I want you guys to do 821 00:44:37.530 --> 00:44:41.449 me a favor, if you don't mind. My team, Whitney, 822 00:44:41.510 --> 00:44:45.579 who's our IT expert where I work, is. 823 00:44:45.449 --> 00:44:48.139 Watching us right now. And I'd like you guys to 824 00:44:48.179 --> 00:44:50.079 flash her to live long and prosper. 825 00:44:50.099 --> 00:44:53.659 Hey, Whitney. I told her to give her a shout out. 826 00:44:53.739 --> 00:44:54.539 Thanks for joining us. 827 00:44:55.780 --> 00:44:56.880 The first person I met when. 828 00:44:56.820 --> 00:44:58.710 I started working at the school, she's got a big 829 00:44:58.769 --> 00:45:01.110 Enterprise D hanging on top of her desk. 830 00:45:01.269 --> 00:45:02.739 Oh, nice. She's one of the good ones. 831 00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:03.340 Nice. 832 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:07.030 Thanks for for your support well guys i want to 833 00:45:07.090 --> 00:45:10.429 start off before i talk about the episode by stating 834 00:45:10.469 --> 00:45:13.730 the obvious i love star trek 5 you can see 835 00:45:13.769 --> 00:45:16.940 my autograph posters right here okay over my head and 836 00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:21.380 that's very important that's very very important because in the 837 00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.539 world of star trek there's a lot of opinions these 838 00:45:24.619 --> 00:45:28.699 opinions can often be very different like My favorite Star 839 00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:29.300 Trek movie? 840 00:45:29.820 --> 00:45:31.179 Star Trek V, right here. 841 00:45:31.739 --> 00:45:34.210 We had Lawrence Luck and Billy sign this poster for me. 842 00:45:34.289 --> 00:45:39.030 It's the pride of my collection. I truly, truly, truly 843 00:45:39.429 --> 00:45:42.889 love Star Trek V. And that's against the grain. And 844 00:45:42.949 --> 00:45:45.530 so I have to preface that before I talk about 845 00:45:45.550 --> 00:45:51.019 the episode because I hated it. I'm completely on the 846 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:54.059 opposite end of the spectrum of all of my co-hosts. 847 00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:57.860 I couldn't stand the Kingdom of Elysium, and I couldn't 848 00:45:57.900 --> 00:45:58.739 stand this one either. 849 00:45:59.300 --> 00:46:01.809 Now, I did, I had some problems with it. 850 00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:06.550 First of all, the Kingdom of Elysium, how did this 851 00:46:06.670 --> 00:46:09.369 floating magic planet even show up? 852 00:46:09.550 --> 00:46:10.769 It's not a planet, Jim. 853 00:46:11.789 --> 00:46:12.630

Okay, what is it? 854 00:46:12.690 --> 00:46:14.750 It's an organism. They said that in the episode. 855 00:46:15.690 --> 00:46:17.239 Okay, I went back and watched. 856 00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:18.139 They said. 857 00:46:17.980 --> 00:46:18.420 It's a ship. 858 00:46:18.500 --> 00:46:19.480 Or ship, that's what it was. 859 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:19.900 It was a ship. 860 00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:20.699 It's a ship, yeah. 861 00:46:21.500 --> 00:46:24.420 And watched the end. I tortured myself. 862 00:46:24.539 --> 00:46:27.639 I took paperclips and put my eyes open and watched 863 00:46:27.699 --> 00:46:30.760 the end of Kingdom of Elysium so that they wouldn't bleed. 864 00:46:31.420 --> 00:46:34.460 This episode just didn't line up with the facts of 865 00:46:34.500 --> 00:46:37.400 the Kingdom of Elysium. First of all, magic didn't work 866 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.519 in the Kingdom of Elysium. But in this episode, Spock 867 00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:43.389 is like wicking out magic left and right. But in 868 00:46:43.409 --> 00:46:47.110 the Kingdom of Elysium, magic didn't work. If you guys remember, 869 00:46:47.329 --> 00:46:50.289 the magician in that one happened to be the awesome 870 00:46:50.329 --> 00:46:51.250 Incredible Hammer. 871 00:46:51.409 --> 00:46:53.969 He couldn't do magic on Andor. He was doing card 872 00:46:54.010 --> 00:46:57.710 checks with a vanguard. So magic didn't work in the 873 00:46:57.730 --> 00:47:00.650 Kingdom of Elysium, but in this episode, it did. That 874 00:47:00.690 --> 00:47:03.130 was kind of weird to me. I didn't like the 875 00:47:03.170 --> 00:47:06.269 whole magic thing. So I didn't like the magic thing. 876 00:47:06.530 --> 00:47:09.699 I didn't like the way the character, like... How am 877 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:10.320 I going to say this? 878 00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:15.119 I didn't like the characters playing their doppelganger thing like that. 879 00:47:16.420 --> 00:47:20.610 Yeah, that bothered me. Give me an. 880 00:47:20.510 --> 00:47:25.030 Answer, please. Yeah, so you'll remember that in the kingdom 881 00:47:25.429 --> 00:47:30.170 of Elysium, Hammer couldn't do magic, but magic was actually 882 00:47:30.250 --> 00:47:35.110 possible in there. He couldn't, he actually he never actually 883 00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:38.579 was able to do it because his mind was never 884 00:47:38.699 --> 00:47:42.010 like connected with the alien entity that was part of, 885 00:47:42.789 --> 00:47:47.130 that created the kingdom of Elysium. So that's, he like, 886 00:47:47.489 --> 00:47:52.590 remember he's an Aenar, right? So his natural psychic defense 887 00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:58.780 allows him to like resist being controlled by, by an entity, 888 00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:01.380 which is why he wasn't like part of that story 889 00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:04.239 in the same way that everybody else was. So that's 890 00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:06.099 why he wasn't really able to do magic. Cause he 891 00:48:06.139 --> 00:48:08.179 wasn't really like part of the story in the same 892 00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:09.000 way other people were. 893 00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:15.500 See, Leia is getting in the picture here. I guess 894 00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:18.289 she likes the episode because she's trying to get in 895 00:48:18.369 --> 00:48:22.530 on the thing. This is my runa right here. Okay, 896 00:48:24.929 --> 00:48:28.260 so not that I didn't like it, but I will 897 00:48:28.300 --> 00:48:32.070 say this. I thought the special effects were awesome. The 898 00:48:32.110 --> 00:48:35.610 dragon was so cool. David was absolutely right. The dragon was, 899 00:48:35.630 --> 00:48:40.309 I was like, wow, that is some awesome shiznit right there. 900 00:48:40.789 --> 00:48:42.820 A dragon attacking Enterprise. 901 00:48:44.030 --> 00:48:44.219 Cool. 902 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:52.739 Absolutely cool. I find it humorous. Watching Anson Mount and Mr. Spock, 903 00:48:53.539 --> 00:48:58.679 I mean, Anson Mount and Ethan Peck, Clay, the coward, Roosh, 904 00:48:58.780 --> 00:49:03.119 or whatever his name was, and the wizard, while they're 905 00:49:03.139 --> 00:49:04.840 looking in the mirror, saying, Fascinating. 906 00:49:05.460 --> 00:49:08.780 Fascinating. Hit it. Trying to pretend to be someone else. 907 00:49:09.230 --> 00:49:12.110 I thought that was funny, and it demonstrated the acting 908 00:49:12.170 --> 00:49:17.050 chance of Ansemout and Ethan. When they're walking down the hallway, 909 00:49:17.730 --> 00:49:19.409 and everybody is thinking. 910 00:49:20.849 --> 00:49:23.719 Anselmau says, well, this shit could use some color. How 911 00:49:23.739 --> 00:49:26.699 about some tapestries, you know? And then they walk by 912 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:28.840 tent board and they're going to go in and have 913 00:49:28.860 --> 00:49:32.460 a drink with the dweebs, you know, and then they're 914 00:49:32.539 --> 00:49:36.900 pounding down the drinks. You know, I thought that was cool. 915 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:45.539 I liked that. But My biggest.... 916 00:49:44.809 --> 00:49:48.989 I'm conflicted. Because here's the thing. We only get nine episodes. 917 00:49:49.329 --> 00:49:53.889 Or ten episodes. This is episode nine. In my opinion, 918 00:49:54.090 --> 00:49:58.960 they utterly wasted it. It was a throwaway, wasted, gimmicky 919 00:49:59.059 --> 00:50:03.480 episode when they should have been focusing on And ending 920 00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:06.500 Star Trek, because now we only have seven episodes left 921 00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.900 until Strangely World is over and this is what they 922 00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:09.300 give us? 923 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:12.900 Another gimmick? It bothered me that they did that. 924 00:50:13.179 --> 00:50:15.280 I think they could have resolved the Talia thing in 925 00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:18.679 a different way than they chose to. 926 00:50:18.860 --> 00:50:21.059 Talia has some great moments in this episode, like when 927

00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.489 she says, are we all on drugs or is there 928 00:50:23.550 --> 00:50:24.280 a castle over there? 929 00:50:25.170 --> 00:50:27.659 I was falling off my couch when she said that 930 00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:31.739 she helped Arthur C. Parker sing the Kubrick Bright 2001 931 00:50:31.739 --> 00:50:35.920 Space Odyssey. When she said that the picture of the 932 00:50:35.940 --> 00:50:41.400 Elysian King, I think they got rid of her perfectly. 933 00:50:42.139 --> 00:50:43.940 If they're going to write a character out, this is 934 00:50:43.980 --> 00:50:46.960 the way Pele should go out. You know, move over, 935 00:50:46.980 --> 00:50:49.300 make room for Scotty, and this is right where... Oh, 936 00:50:49.380 --> 00:50:49.679 and hey. 937 00:50:51.820 --> 00:50:55.219 My co-hosts, most of them know. David and V. 938 00:50:55.099 --> 00:51:00.909 Might not know. I never saw The Princess Bride. I 939 00:51:00.929 --> 00:51:03.090 was a Princess Bride fan. 940 00:51:03.250 --> 00:51:05.480 Eric and Charles were like, you've got to watch it. 941 00:51:05.690 --> 00:51:09.730 You've got to watch it. So pretty recently, I think 942 00:51:09.789 --> 00:51:12.530 that was, what, a year or two ago? 943 00:51:12.550 --> 00:51:15.590 Yeah, I'd say within the last year and a half 944 00:51:15.650 --> 00:51:16.250 or so, yeah. 945 00:51:17.030 --> 00:51:20.719 I finally watched The Princess Bride. So I had never 946 00:51:20.780 --> 00:51:24.380 seen it before. So I thought that probably you're hanging out. 947 00:51:24.900 --> 00:51:27.960 All she needed to do was say inconceivable. And that 948 00:51:27.980 --> 00:51:29.019 would have. 949 00:51:28.739 --> 00:51:30.710 Made the whole. 950 00:51:30.769 --> 00:51:36.829 Her line. These stones are inconceivably good or something. 951 00:51:36.909 --> 00:51:40.130 So, you know, I was conflicted because I really enjoyed the, 952 00:51:40.650 --> 00:51:41.869 we liked the special effects. 953 00:51:41.989 --> 00:51:45.219 I didn't like the story. Just didn't care for the story. 954 00:51:46.019 --> 00:51:49.340 Um, If I may come in. 955 00:51:49.380 --> 00:52:01.349 Here really quick, Jim. The dog staying there? The dog 956 00:52:01.369 --> 00:52:04.730 was real? It was a doppelganger dog? Where did the 957 00:52:04.750 --> 00:52:06.909 dog go when she beamed off the ship and left 958 00:52:06.949 --> 00:52:11.010 the dog behind? She just leaves the dog there, beams away, 959 00:52:11.050 --> 00:52:12.130 and then beams back up. 960 00:52:15.019 --> 00:52:17.699 I do think it's fair to ask about the dog, 961 00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:21.389 because I thought that the whole Elysium Kingdom... I didn't 962 00:52:21.429 --> 00:52:24.989 realize that... I'm a little unclear on the Elysium Kingdom 963 00:52:25.130 --> 00:52:28.369 and how it works, if they're actually creating real things, 964 00:52:28.469 --> 00:52:31.070 or if this is all a mental connection type thing. 965 00:52:31.670 --> 00:52:34.909 I haven't... You know what I mean? I mean, the 966 00:52:34.949 --> 00:52:40.320 dog is real now, so apparently Doppelganger Laan is actually 967 00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:41.280 a real... I. 968 00:52:41.260 --> 00:52:44.199 Have a theory about who Rune is. if she's real. 969 00:52:44.409 --> 00:52:47.389 And it's N'Benga's daughter. She put herself and the dog. 970 00:52:49.289 --> 00:52:51.289 And now she wants to be a part of the crew, 971 00:52:51.349 --> 00:52:54.369 I guess. So she's going to have a uniform. 972 00:52:57.050 --> 00:53:00.050 I wonder if the doppelgangers are more like the Mirror Universe. 973 00:53:00.309 --> 00:53:04.289 It is just sort of a dimensional cross that appeared 974 00:53:04.510 --> 00:53:10.340 in this universe. And they actually are doppelgangers of the 975 00:53:10.420 --> 00:53:13.599 actual characters. And the dog was real, and the dog 976 00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:16.340 had to go because somebody was allergic to the dog. 977 00:53:17.179 --> 00:53:18.239 Yeah. 978 00:53:18.530 --> 00:53:20.030 Too bad they didn't put a goatee on a dog. 979 00:53:20.050 --> 00:53:21.210 Yeah, it was Mr. 980 00:53:21.230 --> 00:53:21.849 Prince Darling. 981 00:53:22.030 --> 00:53:26.869 Isn't that wonderful black art episode that I also thoroughly 982 00:53:26.989 --> 00:53:31.690 enjoyed in my sleep? Didn't Mbenga make some comment how 983 00:53:32.550 --> 00:53:35.719 it's amazing that we haven't met our doppelgangers because they're 984 00:53:35.780 --> 00:53:36.099 out there? 985 00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:37.420 Didn't he say something like that? 986 00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:38.119 He did, yeah. 987 00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:38.980 Yeah. 988 00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:41.219 You know, Jim, there was actually one other reference that. 989 00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:43.659 Charles, I don't know, as the probably second most voracious 990 00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:46.550 book reader on the team here, unless I don't know 991 00:53:46.570 --> 00:53:49.730 about V. V, are you a voracious book reader? 992 00:53:49.769 --> 00:53:50.269 I can't remember. 993 00:54:05.789 --> 00:54:06.030 You are. 994 00:54:06.110 --> 00:54:12.949 Okay, so the top three voracious book readers. The flat 995 00:54:13.750 --> 00:54:17.809 ship that was a planet-ish that everybody lived on. Has 996 00:54:17.869 --> 00:54:21.210 anybody read any of the Terry Pratchett Discworld novels? 997 00:54:23.489 --> 00:54:24.699 Oh, yeah. 998 00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:25.280 Oh, yeah. 999 00:54:34.710 --> 00:54:41.530 Well, there's a pretty famous author who has like 40-something 1000 00:54:41.590 --> 00:54:47.000 books that are set on a flat disc that rides 1001 00:54:47.219 --> 00:54:50.260 on the back of a giant space turtle that floats 1002 00:54:50.340 --> 00:54:51.139 through the universe. 1003 00:54:51.579 --> 00:54:54.940 Oh, is this another reference of the Hogfather? 1004 00:54:55.340 --> 00:54:55.929 Sorry, what, David? 1005 00:54:56.260 --> 00:54:58.510 Is this

another reference of the Hogfather? There was a 1006 00:54:58.570 --> 00:55:01.110 TV show, a mini TV series about this, where a 1007 00:55:01.150 --> 00:55:03.429 giant turtle was carrying a giant disc. 1008 00:55:03.570 --> 00:55:05.269 It's the writer who has a bunch of novels set 1009 00:55:05.369 --> 00:55:08.610 on a universe-like planet that looks just like this thing, 1010 00:55:08.659 --> 00:55:11.679 except this one doesn't occur on the back of a turtle. But, like, 1011 00:55:11.699 --> 00:55:13.719 the flat thing is, you know. 1012 00:55:14.699 --> 00:55:16.199 At first I thought it was going to be something 1013 00:55:16.219 --> 00:55:21.679 like Shirley, like a magical planet that brings what you're 1014 00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:22.730 thinking to life. 1015 00:55:22.929 --> 00:55:25.889 That's what I was thinking at first. Not this whatever planet. 1016 00:55:26.110 --> 00:55:31.230 This is doppelganger planet yeah so yeah like i said 1017 00:55:31.250 --> 00:55:36.469 yeah you can't be up here while i'm doing so 1018 00:55:36.630 --> 00:55:41.280 anyways my my overall score like i said paul paul 1019 00:55:41.300 --> 00:55:43.880 gave it a six i gotta give it a four 1020 00:55:44.980 --> 00:55:47.659 i was gonna give it a two actually like when 1021 00:55:47.699 --> 00:55:49.199 i when i watched it the first time and i 1022 00:55:49.219 --> 00:55:51.239 put my review up on our facebook page i gave 1023 00:55:51.260 --> 00:55:54.139 it a two But just because I thought the dragon 1024 00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:57.260 was cool and Ansem out and Ethan Peck's talking chops 1025 00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:58.440 were just incredible. 1026 00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:00.780 The hair blowing in the wind. 1027 00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:04.480 Bumped it up from a two to a four. Nice. 1028 00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:06.429 I'm just not there with you. 1029 00:56:06.590 --> 00:56:08.090 Yeah, I actually have a. 1030 00:56:08.110 --> 00:56:10.690 I do have stars of five. I did get this 1031 00:56:10.809 --> 00:56:13.010 interview by telling you. No, no, wait. 1032 00:56:13.269 --> 00:56:14.449 That's just mean to me. 1033 00:56:15.989 --> 00:56:18.570 That's what actually sets the bar of all of Jim's reviews, 1034 00:56:18.630 --> 00:56:20.469 that his favorite thing is Star Trek V. 1035 00:56:20.650 --> 00:56:22.469 If only Star Trek V had a dragon. 1036 00:56:23.030 --> 00:56:25.530 Anyway, if there was a dragon, if the Chaparri was 1037 00:56:25.590 --> 00:56:26.210 a dragon. 1038 00:56:28.530 --> 00:56:31.500 I did have a theory about why they made the 1039 00:56:31.739 --> 00:56:34.239 gimmicky episode for this season. I'm wondering if it had 1040 00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.219 something to do with during that time, they didn't know 1041 00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:39.280 that they were going to be canceled. So then they 1042 00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:39.679 got the. 1043 00:56:42.130 --> 00:56:45.030 What do they call it? The script and everything. The 1044 00:56:45.670 --> 00:56:48.650 scripts and everything were probably already made, and they didn't 1045 00:56:48.670 --> 00:56:51.429 want to go back and remake them, especially after they 1046 00:56:51.449 --> 00:56:53.510 probably found out that they're going to be canceled in 1047 00:56:53.530 --> 00:56:56.260 the fifth season. So I'm wondering if that's why there's 1048 00:56:56.300 --> 00:56:58.860 so many gimmicky episodes in this season. 1049 00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:01.880 Jesus. 1050 00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:05.639 I swear to God, if the whole season is a dream, 1051 00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:06.860 I'm going to kill somebody. 1052 00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:07.400 I agree. 1053 00:57:09.530 --> 00:57:10.769 Don't kill any dragons. 1054 00:57:10.789 --> 00:57:15.349 This is what they're putting in his mind. 1055 00:57:15.530 --> 00:57:15.909 Yeah. 1056 00:57:16.590 --> 00:57:19.469 I would hate that so much. 1057 00:57:19.650 --> 00:57:20.309 No, seriously. 1058 00:57:20.329 --> 00:57:27.449 Here's the incredibly awesome Magnitude of Orders episode. And the 1059 00:57:27.510 --> 00:57:32.539 incredible All-Power episode, which I think were two of the best, 1060 00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:34.199 and they followed it up with this. 1061 00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:35.079 I don't know. 1062 00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:40.730 So, uh, Charles, even with my crappy score, how do 1063 00:57:40.769 --> 00:57:45.199 we end with our fans on Facebook? 1064 00:57:45.340 --> 00:57:49.900 Well, our fans gave it a 7.2. 1065 00:57:49.900 --> 00:57:53.619 The host gave it a 6.6. 1066 00:57:53.880 --> 00:58:00.719 That's thanks to me. Yeah. Oh, well. You can't love 1067 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:03.159 them all. I'll tell you this. You're going to love 1068 00:58:03.179 --> 00:58:03.940 tonight's episode. 1069 00:58:04.019 --> 00:58:04.519 It's all the time. 1070 00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:08.460 So I can't wait to talk. Hopefully these new computer comes. 1071 00:58:08.500 --> 00:58:11.940 So by next week, she'll be all set up. And 1072 00:58:12.179 --> 00:58:15.059 I sent via computer. So she should be set up 1073 00:58:15.099 --> 00:58:16.880 for next week. So that should be cool. 1074 00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:18.619 Excellent, actually. 1075 00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:23.219 So yeah, that wraps up this week's episode of Once 1076 00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.650 Upon a Time. We have one more episode, which is 1077 00:58:25.699 --> 00:58:27.869 tonight's episode. And I did want to mention one thing 1078 00:58:27.889 --> 00:58:29.409 that happened. I was going to put it in Star 1079 00:58:29.449 --> 00:58:31.530 Trek news. Yeah, maybe we'll talk about it. 1080 00:58:31.570 --> 00:58:33.530 No, we won't. We'll do it now. This segue is 1081 00:58:33.550 --> 00:58:34.050 good with this. 1082 00:58:34.699 --> 00:58:38.280 So Warner Brothers and Paramount are now officially merged, and 1083 00:58:38.380 --> 00:58:39.940 they're calling it WarnerMount. 1084 00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:43.099 And part of the

agreement that they have is. 1085 00:58:43.579 --> 00:58:48.840 This new company, they have to produce 32 movies a year. 1086 00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:53.699 And if you guys don't remember, they canceled Star Trek. 1087 00:58:53.739 --> 00:58:57.559 They canceled Strange New Worlds. They canceled Starfleet Academy. They 1088 00:58:57.579 --> 00:59:00.199 destroyed the set because what did they say they wanted 1089 00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:05.900 to do? Make Star Trek movies. So I think that 1090 00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:10.309 this is part of their agreement They're going to start 1091 00:59:10.530 --> 00:59:16.090 kicking out movies. One of their agreements was a $ 50 1092 00:59:15.710 --> 00:59:19.489 million budget, which isn't very high. So we might be 1093 00:59:19.530 --> 00:59:23.340 seeing Star Trek movies kicking out here once a year 1094 00:59:24.059 --> 00:59:26.420 to fulfill that contract. And that might be where they're 1095 00:59:26.460 --> 00:59:30.400 heading towards and why they're canceling all the TV shows. Maybe, 1096 00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:33.119 maybe not, but we'll see. So at any rate, that 1097 00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:36.190 wraps up our review. I hope you guys enjoyed it. 1098 00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:40.329 I still have the suspicion that Rune is in Banger's Daughter. 1099 00:59:42.170 --> 00:59:43.769 It could be. It could be. 1100 00:59:44.230 --> 00:59:47.989 We'll have to wait and see. But at this point 1101 00:59:48.250 --> 00:59:51.449 in time, it's all... You know what it is? 1102 00:59:51.550 --> 00:59:53.630 It's Cybok. He's taking her pain. 1103 00:59:53.650 --> 00:59:53.949 Oh, no. 1104 00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:57.880 Okay, so that's three, oh my gosh, that's three end-of-season theories. 1105 00:59:57.960 --> 00:59:59.820 Now Charles and I have to come up with one. 1106 00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:04.840 Yeah, where is Cyborg? Is that Cyborg episode that we 1107 01:00:04.860 --> 01:00:06.969 saw the only Cyborg one? I mean, I hope he 1108 01:00:06.989 --> 01:00:07.949 shows up in season five. 1109 01:00:08.030 --> 01:00:11.429 If you have a sexy Cyborg, you gotta have him. 1110 01:00:11.510 --> 01:00:12.489 A sexy Cyborg. 1111 01:00:12.969 --> 01:00:13.590 Oh my gosh. 1112 01:00:13.630 --> 01:00:16.530 Imagine if you showed up in season five like that, 1113 01:00:16.550 --> 01:00:18.670 instead of, you know, a lot of slugging. 1114 01:00:19.590 --> 01:00:22.429 Yeah, he had a rough life between that and Star 1115 01:00:22.469 --> 01:00:23.869 Trek V, so yeah. 1116 01:00:23.929 --> 01:00:28.449 Yeah, he had it tough. He had it tough. 1117 01:00:28.570 --> 01:00:30.699 Yeah, I bet Dee would have loved to have seen 1118 01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:32.179 Sean Connery in leather. 1119 01:00:33.699 --> 01:00:37.639 Yeah. Yeah, he really loved talking to hell. 1120 01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:42.219 All right, guys, so this is the part of the 1121 01:00:42.260 --> 01:00:45.550 show where we do our sci-fi birthdays. 1122 01:00:46.550 --> 01:00:47.889 That was not a Klingon song. 1123 01:00:47.909 --> 01:00:51.000 No, the underworld says that every week, but we like 1124 01:00:51.019 --> 01:00:51.639 it anyway. 1125 01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:14.570 So we always start off our sci-fi birthdays by sadly 1126 01:01:14.590 --> 01:01:17.710 enough remembering those members of our sci-fi family who are 1127 01:01:17.750 --> 01:01:18.550 no longer with us. 1128 01:01:19.110 --> 01:01:20.829 And for that, we turn to Eric. 1129 01:01:20.889 --> 01:01:25.550 Yeah, Jim, this week I am particularly excited to start 1130 01:01:25.590 --> 01:01:27.550 with the person who we're going to start with. So 1131 01:01:27.570 --> 01:01:30.139 we're going beyond to start with, and we are going 1132 01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:33.579 to say happy birthday to the great Adam West. That's right, 1133 01:01:33.619 --> 01:01:36.480 he was the American actor who lived from September 1928 1134 01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:41.840 to June 9th, 2017. He acted out the role of 1135 01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:45.659 Bruce Wayne slash Batman in the Batman television series of 1136 01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:50.110 the late 1960s and its various spinoffs. A victim of typecasting, 1137 01:01:50.179 --> 01:01:54.730 West reemerged to voice other versions of Batman with 1977's 1138 01:01:54.969 --> 01:01:58.110 The New Adventures of Batman and the Super Friends cartoon 1139 01:01:58.250 --> 01:02:02.539 of the mid-1980s. He also made a couple of guest 1140 01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:06.099 appearances later in his career in some of the other 1141 01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:09.630 shows like Batman the Animated Series. I have to tell you, 1142 01:02:09.690 --> 01:02:11.530 and I think I've said it on this podcast before, 1143 01:02:11.610 --> 01:02:14.570 but every afternoon I would come home from school and 1144 01:02:14.630 --> 01:02:17.989 my television routine was to watch General Hospital with my 1145 01:02:18.010 --> 01:02:22.820 mother and then to watch Batman, which happened right immediately afterward. 1146 01:02:23.260 --> 01:02:25.579 And to me, that was the greatest one-two punch in 1147 01:02:25.619 --> 01:02:28.880 television that you could ever imagine because it was like 1148 01:02:29.380 --> 01:02:32.719 the drama stories of the soap opera and then the 1149 01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:37.429 like kitschy comedy uh, hero work of Adam West and, uh, 1150 01:02:37.530 --> 01:02:40.570 Burt Ward, uh, you know, playing Batman and Robin. So 1151 01:02:41.530 --> 01:02:48.170 just absolutely. Yeah, that's right. No, but you know what, V, 1152 01:02:48.210 --> 01:02:50.860 I do carry shark spray in my bag every single day. 1153 01:02:50.949 --> 01:02:54.699 So, yeah. You know what I remember? He played, he 1154 01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:58.219 played himself. Is that calling up the outside of the 1155 01:02:58.260 --> 01:02:59.280 building on the roofs? 1156 01:02:59.320 --> 01:02:59.539 Yeah. 1157 01:02:59.579 --> 01:03:02.019 And the people opening up

the windows? Yeah. Is that 1158 01:03:02.059 --> 01:03:03.099 calling up the side? 1159 01:03:03.539 --> 01:03:06.119 Yeah, the famous people, they would get famous people to 1160 01:03:06.139 --> 01:03:07.949 make cameo appearances in that scene. 1161 01:03:07.969 --> 01:03:08.090 Yeah. 1162 01:03:08.110 --> 01:03:08.820 What were you saying, V? 1163 01:03:08.809 --> 01:03:12.610 I was saying that he played Mayor Adam West on 1164 01:03:12.750 --> 01:03:14.489 Family Guy. Does anybody remember that? 1165 01:03:14.510 --> 01:03:14.900 That's right. 1166 01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:16.719 He was hilarious. 1167 01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:18.519 He was hilarious. 1168 01:03:18.659 --> 01:03:18.739 Yeah. 1169 01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:18.860 Yeah. 1170 01:03:20.110 --> 01:03:22.380 Well, I just have a super soft spot in my 1171 01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:25.480 heart for Adam West and in particular for Batman. So 1172 01:03:26.019 --> 01:03:27.679 I'm happy to say happy birthday to him. 1173 01:03:27.699 --> 01:03:28.360 Yeah. 1174 01:03:28.739 --> 01:03:31.019 I watched it when it originally aired. 1175 01:03:32.659 --> 01:03:33.800 Oh, yeah. 1176 01:03:34.139 --> 01:03:34.440 Yeah. 1177 01:03:34.699 --> 01:03:37.659 I obviously was watching it in syndication, but it was 1178 01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:40.980 on same time every day for years. So I definitely 1179 01:03:41.019 --> 01:03:42.860 saw lots and lots of Batman. 1180 01:03:43.110 --> 01:03:48.829 And what's her name? I can't think of. will play Catwoman. 1181 01:03:49.849 --> 01:03:51.989 Perfect hit. 1182 01:03:52.050 --> 01:03:52.550 Yeah. 1183 01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:53.550 Yeah. 1184 01:03:54.940 --> 01:03:58.760 Well, happy birthday to Adam West, who took us just 1185 01:03:58.780 --> 01:04:01.760 a little bit beyond Star Trek. But bringing it back 1186 01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:03.739 to Star Trek, we're going to say happy birthday this 1187 01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:08.500 week to Carolyn McCormick, the actress who played Minuet on 1188 01:04:08.539 --> 01:04:11.079 the Next Generation first season episode 11001001. 1189 01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:11.150 And. 1190 01:04:14.909 --> 01:04:17.800 Minryker in the fourth season of Future Imperfect. 1191 01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:19.039 That's right. 1192 01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:22.460 Archive footage from her first appearance was reused in the 1193 01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:26.679 second season episode Shades of Grey as well. Forgot that, 1194 01:04:26.739 --> 01:04:27.079 didn't you? 1195 01:04:27.340 --> 01:04:27.500 Yeah. 1196 01:04:28.219 --> 01:04:30.699 Carolyn was of course best known for her reoccurring role 1197 01:04:30.820 --> 01:04:34.500 as Dr. Elizabeth Olivier on Law and Order, in which 1198 01:04:34.539 --> 01:04:36.480 she appeared in 87 episodes between 1991 and 2009. She 1199 01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:44.380 also previously had leading roles as Assistant District Attorney Rita 1200 01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:48.690 Fior in Spencer for Hire. Does that sound familiar? Yeah, 1201 01:04:48.730 --> 01:04:53.210 that's that Avery Brooks show from 1986 to 1987. Later 1202 01:04:53.250 --> 01:04:58.940 projects included the romance Downtown Express, the thriller True Nature, 1203 01:04:59.059 --> 01:05:02.900 and a reoccurring role as Judge Burdette in three episodes 1204 01:05:03.099 --> 01:05:07.199 of One Life to Live from 2010. Happy birthday to 1205 01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:11.510 Carolyn McCormick. Happy birthday as well to actress Kathy Brown. 1206 01:05:12.289 --> 01:05:15.750 She was the California-based actress who appeared as Dila in 1207 01:05:15.849 --> 01:05:19.329 the original series' third season episode, Wink of an Eye. 1208 01:05:20.070 --> 01:05:24.699 The blonde-haired, blue-eyed beauty played mainly ingenue parts and was 1209 01:05:24.929 --> 01:05:30.539 very busy during her TV acting career of the 1960s 1210 01:05:30.579 --> 01:05:33.440 and 70s, but always in little tiny bit parts here 1211 01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:36.309 and there. But one of her most famous acting roles 1212 01:05:36.349 --> 01:05:40.489 was as the prospective bride of Adam Cartwright during the 1213 01:05:40.489 --> 01:05:45.840 1963 to 1964 season of Bonanza. Various shows all over 1214 01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:47.619 the place. I mean, you name it. Back in the day, 1215 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:51.159 you got your Gunsmokes, your Perry Masons, My Favorite Martian, 1216 01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:54.820 Wagon Train, Wild Wild West, Fantasy Island. She was on 1217 01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:56.929 all those shows back in the day. So Kathy Brown, 1218 01:05:56.949 --> 01:05:59.909 a face I'm sure many of you recognize, subscribers can 1219 01:05:59.949 --> 01:06:03.760 recognize her. right now as they see David's amazing presentation. 1220 01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:06.619 Thank you for that. And happy birthday to Kathy Brown. 1221 01:06:07.670 --> 01:06:09.929 And last but not least on our remembrances, we're going 1222 01:06:09.949 --> 01:06:12.889 to say happy birthday this week to Henry Gibson, the 1223 01:06:12.929 --> 01:06:16.909 prolific character actor who played Nilva in the Deep Space 1224 01:06:16.969 --> 01:06:22.320 Nine six season episode, Prophet and Lace. Outside of Star Trek, 1225 01:06:22.340 --> 01:06:25.099 he's best remembered as a regular performer on the television 1226 01:06:25.139 --> 01:06:30.190 variety series, Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In. From 1968 to 1970, 1227 01:06:30.190 --> 01:06:33.210 you recognize his face, right? Yeah, you've seen it. He 1228 01:06:33.250 --> 01:06:35.250 went on to appear in a large number of films, 1229 01:06:35.309 --> 01:06:38.590 including several from Robert Altman and Joe Dante. Gibson worked 1230 01:06:38.610 --> 01:06:44.929 with director Robert Altman on The Long Goodbye in 1973. 1231 01:06:44.929 --> 01:06:48.710 But his best-known film role is as country singer Haven 1232 01:06:48.789 --> 01:06:56.190 Hamilton in Altman's acclaimed 1975 musical drama Nashville. If you

1233 01:06:56.230 --> 01:06:58.809 haven't seen that and get an opportunity to see it, 1234 01:06:58.809 --> 01:07:03.030 you should probably see it. Douglas S. Kramer, the executive 1235 01:07:03.090 --> 01:07:05.809 in charge of production on Star Trek, the original series, 1236 01:07:05.849 --> 01:07:09.139 who worked with Gibson on the television series Wonder Woman, 1237 01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:13.820 referred to Gibson as a comic genius of the 1960s 1238 01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:16.280 and 1970s. And I would say that I probably agree 1239 01:07:16.300 --> 01:07:19.699 with that. I remember him in particular from the Blues 1240 01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:24.000 Brothers and National Lampoon's Vacation series. But he was also 1241 01:07:24.059 --> 01:07:29.019 in Magnolia, Wedding Crashers, and myriad other things. So amazing actor, 1242 01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:34.769 Henry Gibson, unfortunately lost to us way back in 2009. 1243 01:07:34.769 --> 01:07:39.690 Happy birthday to Henry Gibson. And that does it for 1244 01:07:39.889 --> 01:07:45.449 our remembrances. But before I actually pass it back over 1245 01:07:45.489 --> 01:07:49.800 to Charles, I actually stole one birthday from Charles this week. 1246 01:07:49.820 --> 01:07:52.420 So I'm sorry, Charles. Charles, to do this to you 1247 01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:59.519 on the fly, but I really wanted to be the 1248 01:07:59.539 --> 01:08:03.219 person to say happy birthday to the very much living 1249 01:08:04.179 --> 01:08:09.010 Tatiana Maslany. She is only 40 years old, born in 1985. She, 1250 01:08:09.050 --> 01:08:12.269 of course, is the actress who played Anisha Mir. in 1251 01:08:12.309 --> 01:08:16.069 the Star Trek Starfleet Academy first season episodes Kids These Days, 1252 01:08:16.630 --> 01:08:20.729 300th Night, and Rubicon. But we all, of course, best 1253 01:08:20.789 --> 01:08:25.119 know her for starring in Orphan Black, for which she 1254 01:08:25.159 --> 01:08:28.899 won an Emmy Award as Best Actress in a Drama Series. 1255 01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:31.939 She's the first Canadian to win an Emmy in a 1256 01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:35.850 major dramatic category for acting in a Canadian series. She 1257 01:08:35.890 --> 01:08:40.590 also starred in the Marvel superhero series She-Hulk. attorney at 1258 01:08:40.670 --> 01:08:44.890 law as jennifer walters slash she hulk and i just 1259 01:08:44.949 --> 01:08:48.210 thought that orphan black was such a fantastic show and 1260 01:08:48.229 --> 01:08:50.989 if you don't know anything about that show tatiana maslany 1261 01:08:51.229 --> 01:08:55.829 plays i believe it's something like 27 different characters in 1262 01:08:55.850 --> 01:09:00.220 that show over the course of seven seasons. You see 1263 01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:03.979 some of them on the screen here. So just fantastic actress. 1264 01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:05.560 I love her so much. And it was so cool 1265 01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:07.880 to see her show up in Star Trek. So thank you, Charles, 1266 01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:11.199 for letting me steal that birthday from you. I will 1267 01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:15.399 go ahead and pass the flaming birthday candle at this 1268 01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:16.579 point over to my good. 1269 01:09:16.500 --> 01:09:16.880 Friend, Vy. 1270 01:09:22.729 --> 01:09:27.850 He played Frank on TNG Angel One, while, as in 1271 01:09:27.890 --> 01:09:32.960 the golden version that you see there, on TNG The Spring, 1272 01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:38.960 and Tomar, the agent, Virtuoso. Happy birthday goes out to 1273 01:09:39.100 --> 01:09:43.579 Alder Scott. He's an actor who played Frank in the 1274 01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:50.130 Star Trek short film, episode, Calypso. Next, happy birthday goes 1275 01:09:50.210 --> 01:09:53.850 out to Sierra Stewart, You were a star actor to 1276 01:09:53.949 --> 01:10:01.189 play Kattel as Selah in the TNG Four Seasons episode eight. Next, 1277 01:10:01.270 --> 01:10:04.680 I'd like to say to Carl Held, you were a 1278 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:08.539 star actor to play Lindstrom in the TNG Four Seasons episode, 1279 01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:14.350 The Return of the Arbiter. Next, I was trying to 1280 01:10:14.390 --> 01:10:19.409 practice doing something with his last name because I love 1281 01:10:19.470 --> 01:10:24.970 him so much. He's a Nigerian-American actor who plays Joseph 1282 01:10:25.090 --> 01:10:30.729 Mbenga in Star Trek The Green New World. Oh, here's 1283 01:10:30.829 --> 01:10:33.529 a good one. I love his book that returned in 1284 01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:36.640 the movie. I'm a fan of. It's the one and 1285 01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:42.489 only Stephen King. He's an American author. Doug is the 1286 01:10:42.670 --> 01:10:47.300 king of horror. He is widely known for his horror fiction. 1287 01:10:47.840 --> 01:10:50.819 It's a few of Terry's that work him in horror. 1288 01:10:51.300 --> 01:10:55.239 Among the films that Doug did, the king of horror, Terry, 1289 01:10:55.970 --> 01:11:01.329 The Shining, The Dead Son, Stand By Me, Save Mary, 1290 01:11:01.810 --> 01:11:08.590 The Shawshank Redemption, another favorite, Dolores Claiborne, The Green Mile, It, 1291 01:11:10.609 --> 01:11:13.310 there's a heck of a meaning of the life of 1292 01:11:13.630 --> 01:11:16.449 a cat and the long walk. 1293 01:11:17.010 --> 01:11:20.989 Well yeah and don't I gotta say don't forget about 1294 01:11:21.050 --> 01:11:25.479 the Gunslinger series that's my absolute favorite Stephen King of 1295 01:11:25.529 --> 01:11:29.439 all time yeah seven amazing books that actually tie into 1296 01:11:29.539 --> 01:11:32.899 so many of his other works as well oh. 1297 01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:35.020 I would have to add in my first book that 1298 01:11:35.140 --> 01:11:38.619 I actually read from him was Pet Sematary But of 1299 01:11:38.659 --> 01:11:42.210 his series, my favorite is The Stand. That Stand is 1300 01:11:42.250 --> 01:11:47.050 such a fabulous book. And I

recommend it to Eric. 1301 01:11:47.590 --> 01:11:52.069 Stephen King's not always horror. I recommend fans go back 1302 01:11:52.170 --> 01:11:53.390 and read Fairy Tales. 1303 01:11:54.670 --> 01:11:57.029 It's not a horror book. It's a fantasy book, but 1304 01:11:57.050 --> 01:11:58.069 it's a very good book. 1305 01:12:08.939 --> 01:12:10.500 Does anybody remember that? 1306 01:12:12.489 --> 01:12:13.189 Oh, yeah, for sure. 1307 01:12:13.250 --> 01:12:15.470 Is that why he wrote the book The Long Walk? 1308 01:12:16.130 --> 01:12:19.750 No, but he did write... No. 1309 01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:26.079 Yeah. 1310 01:12:27.380 --> 01:12:29.640 Anyway. Let's not forget 1982's Creepshow. 1311 01:12:32.050 --> 01:12:35.800 The anthology, he wrote the story, and he starred in it, 1312 01:12:36.390 --> 01:12:39.890 about the asteroid that crashes, and Geordi finds it. 1313 01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:41.840 His character was Geordi. He's going to sell it. 1314 01:12:41.859 --> 01:12:44.819 He touches it, and he gets green moss on his fingers, 1315 01:12:44.859 --> 01:12:48.859 and he turns into a giant moss creature and blows 1316 01:12:48.899 --> 01:12:50.579 his own mossy head. 1317 01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:53.539 Off at the end. Poop show, 1982. Spoilers. I love 1318 01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:55.159 Star Trek V, okay? 1319 01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:55.340 Yeah. 1320 01:13:01.670 --> 01:13:06.909 Yeah v v i was just uh i was remembering 1321 01:13:06.930 --> 01:13:08.550 what you were just talking about and i just did 1322 01:13:08.590 --> 01:13:12.310 a quick google on it so um after that accident 1323 01:13:12.590 --> 01:13:15.189 is when he wrote that book dream catcher and i 1324 01:13:15.210 --> 01:13:17.899 don't know if you if you read that book but 1325 01:13:17.939 --> 01:13:21.100 that's the story where he kind of tells the story 1326 01:13:21.149 --> 01:13:23.180 of an author who gets hit by a car and 1327 01:13:24.899 --> 01:13:27.600 it's like it was like his way to process getting 1328 01:13:27.659 --> 01:13:30.380 hit by the car so if Yeah, if you haven't 1329 01:13:30.420 --> 01:13:34.359 read Dreamcatcher, it's actually kind of a cool... It's not 1330 01:13:34.380 --> 01:13:36.680 really horror, but it's definitely in that realm of, like, 1331 01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:39.640 dream weirdness, you know, kind of book. 1332 01:13:39.699 --> 01:13:42.189 Yeah, and if you watch the movie, it has weasels 1333 01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:42.930 in the movie. 1334 01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:45.729 Oh, is there a movie of that one? 1335 01:13:46.689 --> 01:13:47.689 Yeah. 1336 01:13:47.710 --> 01:13:48.869 Oh, I didn't know that. 1337 01:13:50.710 --> 01:13:53.210 It's a weird movie. Whoa, okay. 1338 01:13:53.229 --> 01:13:57.010 Yeah, well, anyway. 1339 01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:01.979 My last happy birthday goes out to Ralph Lauren Bowers. 1340 01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:09.649 He plays Demar in the second season of The Outrageous O'Connor. 1341 01:14:09.689 --> 01:14:13.810 Not one of my favorites, but it's okay. And best 1342 01:14:13.850 --> 01:14:17.729 known for her portrayal of Dr. Wendy Smith in the 1343 01:14:17.770 --> 01:14:20.550 second season of Beast Quest. 1344 01:14:20.770 --> 01:14:22.119 Thank you, Vee. 1345 01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:28.500 Let's start off with a happy birthday to John Berthold. 1346 01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:33.069 Gained critical acclaim and prominence for his portrayal as Shane 1347 01:14:33.109 --> 01:14:37.840 Walsh in the AMC series The Walking Dead. In 2015, 1348 01:14:37.829 --> 01:14:41.229 he was cast as Frank Castle, Punisher, as part of 1349 01:14:41.449 --> 01:14:48.060 the Netflix MCU series. He debuted on the Daredevil season, 1350 01:14:48.319 --> 01:14:51.689 second season of Daredevil, before starring in his own series, 1351 01:14:51.699 --> 01:14:56.409 The Punisher, in 2017. Most recently appeared as Frank Castle, Punisher, 1352 01:14:56.869 --> 01:15:02.989 alongside Tom Holland in the movie Spider-Man, Brand New Day, Menzelius, 1353 01:15:03.050 --> 01:15:08.100 The King of Spartan, and Christopher Nolan's 2026 epic movie, 1354 01:15:08.140 --> 01:15:08.880 The Odyssey. 1355 01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:13.659 Yeah, he's also the brother, the... the catalyst for much 1356 01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:15.859 of the story of the bear. If you're not watching 1357 01:15:15.930 --> 01:15:20.630 the bear on Apple TV slash Hulu, that's a fantastic 1358 01:15:20.670 --> 01:15:24.069 series about a restaurant. And he's the brother who kind 1359 01:15:24.109 --> 01:15:27.090 of dies at the beginning of the series. And they 1360 01:15:27.130 --> 01:15:30.050 often bring him back as kind of a memory as 1361 01:15:30.090 --> 01:15:30.649 part of the show. 1362 01:15:30.729 --> 01:15:31.479 Thank you, Eric. 1363 01:15:32.489 --> 01:15:37.460 Happy birthday to Suzanne Watson, actress who played Lethe in 1364 01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:41.880 Star Trek's original series. Original series first season episode, Dagger 1365 01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:42.600 of the Mind. 1366 01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:44.460 Happy birthday, Jeremy Roberts. 1367 01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:50.239 Actress who played Lieutenant Commander Damar Valtaine in Star Trek IV, 1368 01:15:50.579 --> 01:15:55.699 Star Trek VI, The Undercircle Country. And Voyager's third season episode, Flashback. 1369 01:15:57.029 --> 01:16:01.739 And Miso Clan and DS9' s fourth season episode, Hippocratic Oath. 1370 01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:04.979 You guys, we interviewed him on this podcast, and he 1371 01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:06.359 was a lot of fun to talk to. 1372 01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:07.520 If you go over to. 1373 01:16:07.539 --> 01:16:10.970 Trucktalking.com and you look up Special Guest, you can find 1374 01:16:11.020 --> 01:16:11.659 his interview. 1375 01:16:12.109 --> 01:16:14.569 Give it a listen. He had a lot of good stories. 1376 01:16:14.810 --> 01:16:16.970 He worked with Chevy Chase on Christmas Vacation. 1377 01:16:17.010 -->

01:16:19.270 He was in The X-Files. He's been in a lot 1378 01:16:19.289 --> 01:16:22.170 of stuff. So go over to trucktalking.com, listen to our 1379 01:16:22.189 --> 01:16:23.270 interview with him. He's a lot of fun. 1380 01:16:24.060 --> 01:16:26.779 Yeah, and Jim, it's been a very long time since 1381 01:16:26.859 --> 01:16:30.319 I mentioned Star Trek Attack Wing, but Valtaine has one 1382 01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:32.720 of the best cards in Star Trek Attack Wing. So 1383 01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:35.420 if you still play that game, which David and I 1384 01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:38.550 still do on occasion, if your ship has a scan 1385 01:16:38.590 --> 01:16:41.449 token beside it when you attack, you can reroll two 1386 01:16:41.470 --> 01:16:46.130 of your attack dice with Valtaine. So he's classic for 1387 01:16:46.170 --> 01:16:48.510 many attack-based builds in Star Trek Attack Wing. 1388 01:16:48.670 --> 01:16:49.289 Very nice. 1389 01:16:49.569 --> 01:16:51.510 Then a couple of good ones coming up. 1390 01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:57.560 Happy birthday to Christina Chong, English actor who played Leon 1391 01:16:57.659 --> 01:17:01.569 Noonien Singh in Star Trek Strange New Worlds. She was 1392 01:17:01.649 --> 01:17:05.189 born in Enfield, Greater London to a Chinese father and 1393 01:17:05.350 --> 01:17:06.069 English mother. 1394 01:17:06.189 --> 01:17:08.810 Great to having her on the show. And I'm glad 1395 01:17:08.970 --> 01:17:11.069 Eric saved this last one for me. 1396 01:17:11.090 --> 01:17:16.930 Happy birthday to Billie Piper, English actor and former singer. 1397 01:17:17.390 --> 01:17:21.060 She gained recognition as a singer after releasing her debut single, 1398 01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:25.340 Because We Want To, at the age of 15, which 1399 01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:28.479 made her the youngest female singer to enter the UK 1400 01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:30.779 singles chart as a number one. 1401 01:17:31.020 --> 01:17:33.039 But we're better known her as. 1402 01:17:33.100 --> 01:17:44.159 Rose from the reboot 2005 through Two Doctors in Doctor Who. 1403 01:17:44.970 --> 01:17:51.250 Companion of the Doctor as, okay, Rose Rose. as Brianna Croft, 1404 01:17:51.310 --> 01:17:55.810 Lily in the Showtime horror series, Penny Dreadful, and Capria 1405 01:17:55.930 --> 01:17:58.409 in the Netflix series Wednesday. 1406 01:17:58.869 --> 01:18:03.270 But I still think of her as Ro, as I. 1407 01:18:03.250 --> 01:18:07.390 Still think of the first time Eccleston ran into Ro, 1408 01:18:07.710 --> 01:18:11.109 and the first words the doctor said to Ro, run, 1409 01:18:11.380 --> 01:18:13.350 as he was being chased by mannequins. 1410 01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:19.239 Yeah, and I always think about the fact Oh, sorry, Charles. 1411 01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:21.979 I was just going to mention that as you mentioned, 1412 01:18:22.020 --> 01:18:25.819 she's the companion through two Doctors. She starts with Christopher 1413 01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:28.659

Eccleston and she goes on to be with David Tennant. 1414 01:18:29.260 --> 01:18:31.470 One thing that they kind of avoid during most of 1415 01:18:31.550 --> 01:18:36.069 Doctor Who is any romantic entanglements for the Doctor. They 1416 01:18:36.109 --> 01:18:39.250 played with that a little bit with Enshuti's character. But 1417 01:18:39.510 --> 01:18:41.510 people forget that they actually played a little bit with 1418 01:18:41.550 --> 01:18:44.210 that at the very beginning of David Tennant's run with 1419 01:18:44.250 --> 01:18:47.000 Billy Piper as well. And they sort of dabbled with it. 1420 01:18:47.310 --> 01:18:48.840 and then they let it go, which I thought was 1421 01:18:48.899 --> 01:18:51.159 one of the most brilliant things ever done on television 1422 01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:54.350 to sort of say, oh my God, is there sexual tension? Nope, 1423 01:18:54.550 --> 01:18:55.250 actually there's not. 1424 01:18:56.079 --> 01:19:00.220 Well, but remember, she took care of the, I forgot 1425 01:19:00.260 --> 01:19:03.539 what part of the doctor, but she had a version 1426 01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:06.760 of the doctor in the alternate universe that she took 1427 01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:13.250 care of. But definitely happy birthday to Billy. She was 1428 01:19:13.310 --> 01:19:14.970 a fun companion to see. 1429 01:19:15.229 --> 01:19:16.430 And I think Jim. 1430 01:19:16.170 --> 01:19:20.689 Wants to talk about some movies that occurred recently on 1431 01:19:20.710 --> 01:19:21.270 this date. 1432 01:19:21.710 --> 01:19:25.189 Absolutely. So, Eric, you like our new logo made-off? 1433 01:19:25.649 --> 01:19:27.550 Yeah, it looks familiar. 1434 01:19:27.609 --> 01:19:29.949 Dave and I got together and decided that we wanted 1435 01:19:29.970 --> 01:19:31.310 to keep the show uniform. 1436 01:19:31.470 --> 01:19:32.409 I like it. 1437 01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:36.720 We used your logo and just altered it to each 1438 01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:39.739 one of our segments so that they all kind of match. 1439 01:19:39.899 --> 01:19:40.579 It's really cool. 1440 01:19:40.619 --> 01:19:41.010 I love it. 1441 01:19:42.020 --> 01:19:47.770 Anyways, guys, instead of doing birthdays, I do anniversaries of 1442 01:19:47.869 --> 01:19:53.760 movies that happened this week through history. Uncle Jim's movie 1443 01:19:53.939 --> 01:19:55.819 of the week. So we're going to start off. The 1444 01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:59.270 first movie that we're going to mention is The Haunting. 1445 01:19:59.920 --> 01:20:04.319 Released on September 28, 1963, it's a British horror film 1446 01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:06.979 directed and produced by, there's this guy. 1447 01:20:06.659 --> 01:20:09.420 Again, Robert Wise. Dr. 1448 01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:13.000 John McQuade, played by Richard Johnson, an anthropologist with an 1449 01:20:13.060 --> 01:20:16.739 interest in psychic phenomena, takes two socially selected women to 1450 01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:21.539 El House, a reportedly

haunted mansion. Eleanor, played by Julie Harris, 1451 01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:25.060 a lonely, eccentric woman with a supernatural event in her past, 1452 01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:29.859 and the bold Theodora, played by Clara Bloom, who has DSP. 1453 01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:33.579 Joey and John and the Mansion's Hair, cynical Luke, played 1454 01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:36.159 by Russ Tamrim, to spend. 1455 01:20:35.760 --> 01:20:40.380 The night in the haunted mansion. 1963. 1456 01:20:40.380 --> 01:20:43.500 There was a remake that came out with Liam Neeson 1457 01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:47.210 as well, but this is the original one. The next 1458 01:20:47.630 --> 01:20:55.380 that's on my list is Dread. Released on September 21st, 2012. 1459 01:20:55.380 --> 01:21:00.960 A great futuristic action adventure and comic book adaptation starring 1460 01:21:01.060 --> 01:21:01.920 Carl Urban. 1461 01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:03.529 That's right. You heard it. 1462 01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:08.539 Carl Urban, Bones McCoy. from the Kelvin Universe movies. The 1463 01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:11.789 film takes place on the hostile streets and high-rise blocks 1464 01:21:11.850 --> 01:21:14.989 of a mega city. One of Judge Dredd's and rookie 1465 01:21:15.029 --> 01:21:18.270 partners fight their way through an apartment complex to bring 1466 01:21:18.310 --> 01:21:23.380 down a drug lord. Played by Lena Hensley, who was 1467 01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:28.199 in Game of Thrones and the Sarah Connor Chronicles. The 1468 01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:32.090 next movie on my list is Conan the Adventurer. It 1469 01:21:32.100 --> 01:21:36.609 was released on September 22, 1997. You may have forgotten 1470 01:21:36.649 --> 01:21:40.930 this one because in this adaptation, the work of Robert E. Edward, 1471 01:21:41.409 --> 01:21:46.399 Conan is played by, not by that muscle-bound Arnold Schwarzenegger, 1472 01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:50.520 but by Danny Woodburn. And I think that's why people 1473 01:21:50.539 --> 01:21:53.539 forget it, because this dude is no Arnold. But at 1474 01:21:53.659 --> 01:21:56.670 any rate, He goes in search of the ancient sword 1475 01:21:56.689 --> 01:21:59.090 of Atlantis, a powerful weapon you need to deal with 1476 01:21:59.109 --> 01:22:02.529 the evil sorcerer. Together with a group of brave warriors, 1477 01:22:03.050 --> 01:22:06.390 live an incredible adventure in which you face terrible creatures 1478 01:22:06.430 --> 01:22:10.050 that rise up from hell. 1479 01:22:10.069 --> 01:22:11.770 And last on my. 1480 01:22:11.710 --> 01:22:15.609 List, Amityville 2, The Possession. 1481 01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:18.149 It was released on September 24, 1982. 1482 01:22:18.149 --> 01:22:25.529 An anthology, Dolores Montello, along with their four children, move 1483 01:22:25.569 --> 01:22:29.050 into their dream house in Amityville and are immediately plagued 1484 01:22:29.090 --> 01:22:33.220 by a string of paranormal experiences. When the abusive Anthony 1485 01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:36.899 wrongly places the blame on their children, Dolores recruits a 1486 01:22:36.939 --> 01:22:42.899 local Catholic priest to exercise the house. And those are 1487 01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:46.720 the notable movies that came out this week. And which 1488 01:22:46.779 --> 01:22:51.939 movie are we going to celebrate this week? David, roll 1489 01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:53.420 the thing. 1490 01:22:53.420 --> 01:22:56.350 800 million people living in the ruin of the old world. 1491 01:22:58.130 --> 01:23:00.550 Only one thing fighting for order in the chaos. 1492 01:23:03.409 --> 01:23:03.909 Judges. 1493 01:23:07.909 --> 01:23:09.189 Judgment time. 1494 01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:12.619 There's drugs like nothing I've ever seen. 1495 01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:16.500 If we play this right, we can take the whole city. 1496 01:23:16.520 --> 01:23:18.979 Okay, you ready? 1497 01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:21.750 Somewhere in this block are two judges. 1498 01:23:21.770 --> 01:23:29.500 I want him dead. This is Judge Dredd. I am 1499 01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:54.550 the law. just confess right now. Dread. There you have it, guys. 1500 01:23:55.189 --> 01:23:58.260 I have to admit, though, I'm a huge fan of 1501 01:23:58.300 --> 01:24:02.340 the Stallone version from the 80s because I love the one-liners. 1502 01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:05.310 Stallone cracks those one-liners. 1503 01:24:04.930 --> 01:24:09.170 Better than anybody Jim they they are both really good 1504 01:24:09.329 --> 01:24:12.529 solid movies for different reasons like I think the Stallone 1505 01:24:12.649 --> 01:24:17.420 one has way better one-liners and actually the um the 1506 01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:19.779 art of it matches the comic books just a little 1507 01:24:19.819 --> 01:24:22.479 bit more than the Carl Urban but the Carl Urban 1508 01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:25.880 one actually has a better story and the action sequences 1509 01:24:25.960 --> 01:24:27.060 are so good. 1510 01:24:28.609 --> 01:24:33.289 I like the Statue of Liberty in the Stallone version. So, yeah, 1511 01:24:33.350 --> 01:24:36.850 I mean, so I just wanted to, because I believe 1512 01:24:36.869 --> 01:24:40.890 they're making another one. I think Paul said that Carl 1513 01:24:40.949 --> 01:24:44.390 Irving was working on another Dredd movie. You may have 1514 01:24:44.449 --> 01:24:48.090 noticed most of our movies were horror movies. That's because 1515 01:24:48.109 --> 01:24:51.979 we're into September and October. So this is the big 1516 01:24:52.020 --> 01:24:53.979 horror movie time of the year. So a lot of 1517 01:24:54.020 --> 01:24:55.779 our movies are going to be horror movies. 1518 01:24:56.300 --> 01:24:59.449 So that's okay. We can re-go beyond that. So that 1519 01:24:59.529 --> 01:25:01.439 is Uncle Jim's movie. 1520 01:25:01.020 --> 01:25:04.449 Pick of the week, Dread, from 2012. If you missed it, 1521 01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:06.779 go out and check it out. You might enjoy it. 1522

01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:10.380 All right, guys. So that finishes up our birthdays. And 1523 01:25:10.460 --> 01:25:21.880 now it is time for some Star Trek news. Now 1524 01:25:21.899 --> 01:25:23.319 it's time for some Star Trek news. 1525 01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:24.600 Star Trek news intro. 1526 01:25:24.619 --> 01:25:27.079 Here we go, David. Oh, no. Here it is right here. 1527 01:25:28.819 --> 01:25:31.880 Oh my god, there's no sound. 1528 01:25:31.899 --> 01:26:05.460 Oh, he stopped it. So this is live. So I 1529 01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:07.430 could edit that out, but I'm not. 1530 01:26:07.470 --> 01:26:09.229 I'm going to leave it in so the people watching 1531 01:26:09.270 --> 01:26:13.390 later can get the feel of the live show. In 1532 01:26:13.449 --> 01:26:16.909 our attempt to keep everything uniform, we kind of use 1533 01:26:16.930 --> 01:26:18.149 that logo throughout. 1534 01:26:17.850 --> 01:26:19.510 The whole show, if you guys notice. 1535 01:26:20.010 --> 01:26:22.829 So, Eric, we usually start off the show with a 1536 01:26:22.890 --> 01:26:26.829 particular segment if we can. And this particular week, we 1537 01:26:26.869 --> 01:26:30.300 have one. So, Eric, the stage is yours. 1538 01:26:31.100 --> 01:26:33.800 Yeah, I'm going to do a Shatner Says What. V, 1539 01:26:33.859 --> 01:26:35.779 I'm going to ask you to just mute your microphone 1540 01:26:35.800 --> 01:26:38.619 real quick. We're getting some static from you. So this 1541 01:26:38.699 --> 01:26:42.090 is my favorite segment of the show. Shatner Says What? 1542 01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:42.689 That's right. 1543 01:26:42.739 --> 01:26:47.890 William Shatner covers Ozzy Osbourne, Metallica, classics at his first 1544 01:26:48.029 --> 01:26:52.329 ever performance with his heavy metal band, The Uckers, which 1545 01:26:52.390 --> 01:26:54.989 I believe is how you pronounce this. It is spelled 1546 01:26:55.689 --> 01:27:03.479 asterisk U-C-K-E-R-S, The Uckers. 95-year-old Star Trek legend William Shatner 1547 01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:07.060 performed live with his newly formed heavy metal band, The Uckers, 1548 01:27:07.159 --> 01:27:10.630 for the first time Saturday night, September 19th, at the 1549 01:27:10.729 --> 01:27:15.069 Riot Fest aftershow at Park West in Chicago, Illinois. The 1550 01:27:15.109 --> 01:27:18.189 gig served as the warm-up for his main Riot Festival 1551 01:27:18.229 --> 01:27:22.239 appearance at Douglas Park the following evening. The Uckers feature 1552 01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:26.500 an all-star lineup of veteran rock musicians, including Marcus Nand 1553 01:27:26.739 --> 01:27:31.850 on guitar and as musical director. Philip Sousan on bass, 1554 01:27:32.310 --> 01:27:37.409 Brit Lightning from Vixen on guitars, and Fred Oching from 1555 01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:41.520 Kings of Thrash and Dead Groove on drums. The performance 1556 01:27:41.619 --> 01:27:46.539 reimagines songs from throughout Shatner's musical catalog, while also previewing 1557 01:27:46.579 --> 01:27:50.579 materials from his upcoming rock metal album, What the F 1558 01:27:50.640 --> 01:27:56.960 is Heavy Metal? Shatner said, I've explored space. I've explored time. Now, 1559 01:27:57.579 --> 01:28:02.489 I explore distortion. Shatner laid out some conditions for his 1560 01:28:02.550 --> 01:28:05.939 performance at the Riot Fest, telling the organizers, Don't forget 1561 01:28:05.979 --> 01:28:08.079 my bowl of sauerkraut if you please. 1562 01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:09.939 What? 1563 01:28:11.380 --> 01:28:16.680 His writer also included fire breathers. Many of them. Like, 1564 01:28:16.899 --> 01:28:20.880 no kidding, it's in the contract. A Montreal Canadiens hockey 1565 01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:22.920 sweater signed by John Stamos. 1566 01:28:23.739 --> 01:28:23.939 What? 1567 01:28:24.770 --> 01:28:26.689 Four feet of Polish sausage. 1568 01:28:27.510 --> 01:28:27.729 What? 1569 01:28:28.850 --> 01:28:33.449 And an assortment of adoptable puppies sourced from a reputable 1570 01:28:33.529 --> 01:28:38.430 local animal rescue nonprofit. Dude, that's the most crazy thing 1571 01:28:38.449 --> 01:28:42.340 I've ever heard. Anyway, that was... great. You understand, these 1572 01:28:42.380 --> 01:28:46.060 are conditions of his performance. Like, the assortment of adoptable 1573 01:28:46.140 --> 01:28:49.000 puppies have to be there for him to do the gig. 1574 01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:52.279 I just love it. He said, you gotta start with 1575 01:28:52.300 --> 01:28:56.479 the premise that I really know nothing, Shatner explained. I'm inquisitive. 1576 01:28:57.020 --> 01:29:00.350 Apparently I'm inquisitive. And I'm reading and looking up all 1577 01:29:00.369 --> 01:29:04.750 the time stuff. So I began to experiment. I fastened 1578 01:29:04.909 --> 01:29:07.670 on to emotions. I thought heavy metal has got to 1579 01:29:07.710 --> 01:29:15.399 be about emotions. Violent, passionate, not violent, passionate emotions. Guest 1580 01:29:15.579 --> 01:29:18.060 musicians set to appear on What the F is Heavy 1581 01:29:18.100 --> 01:29:24.659 Metal include Queen guitarist Brian May, Black Sabbath guitarist Tony Iommi, 1582 01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:32.220 Judas Priest singer Rob Halford, are you kidding me? And 1583 01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:36.729 the bassist from Disturbed. You guys, this guy has got 1584 01:29:36.810 --> 01:29:40.069 connections beyond connections. And I know this is all about 1585 01:29:40.109 --> 01:29:43.890 the kitsch of it, right? But as a metal fan 1586 01:29:44.050 --> 01:29:46.390 and also a fan of kitsch, I can tell you 1587 01:29:46.430 --> 01:29:51.020 that I am so excited about this collaboration. There are 1588 01:29:51.060 --> 01:29:54.470 some songs by this band, The Uckers, online. If you're 1589 01:29:54.510 --> 01:29:57.430 interested in hearing what William Shatner sounds like in a 1590 01:29:57.430 --> 01:30:00.810 metal band, go to your favorite music service. Some of 1591 01:30:00.890 -->

01:30:01.909 it is there right now. 1592 01:30:01.989 --> 01:30:04.930 You don't have to do that, Eric. David! You guys 1593 01:30:04.970 --> 01:30:08.930 want to see and hear some Shatner as well? 1594 01:30:08.949 --> 01:30:09.470 I love it, yes. 1595 01:30:09.670 --> 01:30:10.119 Let's do it. 1596 01:30:11.829 --> 01:30:13.310 I will try. Here we go. 1597 01:30:30.420 --> 01:30:38.659 Look at his face. This is Enter Sandman by Metallica, 1598 01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:39.039 by the way. 1599 01:31:35.649 --> 01:31:36.100 Oh my God. 1600 01:31:36.109 --> 01:31:45.859 Okay, how. 1601 01:31:47.560 --> 01:33:20.420 About some Ozzy Osbourne? Oh my God. Wow. I just... 1602 01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:22.680 Only Shatner. Only Shatner. 1603 01:33:22.699 --> 01:33:25.010 I mean, is it just me or is he just 1604 01:33:25.050 --> 01:33:32.329 totally lit up during these performances? He's gotta be, right? 1605 01:33:32.470 --> 01:33:39.619 Only Shatner. I couldn't pass on that it's just like 1606 01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:43.119 amazing it's just incredible. 1607 01:33:43.479 --> 01:33:47.300 So that's our Shatner says what or in this case 1608 01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:52.119 Shatner sings what and we're gonna pass it over to 1609 01:33:52.189 --> 01:33:55.430 Charles Charles has our next story take it away Charles. 1610 01:33:56.329 --> 01:34:00.810 Okay not to be able to top that Garrett Graham 1611 01:34:00.850 --> 01:34:04.029 dies actor of Star Trek and Phantom of the Paradise 1612 01:34:05.979 --> 01:34:09.510 Fans and stars alike are mourning the death of Garrett Graham, 1613 01:34:09.569 --> 01:34:12.930 an actor known for his role in several Brian De 1614 01:34:12.989 --> 01:34:18.569 Palma films, Fan of the Paradise included, and two Star 1615 01:34:18.609 --> 01:34:22.659 Trek series. He died at the age of 77 in Rhinebeck, 1616 01:34:22.699 --> 01:34:26.619 New York, after living with lung disease and other ailments. 1617 01:34:27.989 --> 01:34:32.699 Under De Palma's direction, Graham appeared in the 1968 film Greetings, 1618 01:34:33.420 --> 01:34:38.800 Robert De Niro's first feature-length film credit, 70's Hi Mom, 1619 01:34:38.819 --> 01:34:42.439 74's Fan of the Paradise, and. 1620 01:34:42.340 --> 01:34:43.460 79's Home Movies. 1621 01:34:44.890 --> 01:34:49.409 Other film title roles include 76's Cannonball, 1980's Used Cars, 1622 01:34:49.470 --> 01:34:57.470 1990's Charles Play II, 1993's The Boy's Life, in 98's 1623 01:34:57.649 --> 01:35:02.170 One True Thing. On television, Graham starred as Leonard Scribber 1624 01:35:02.329 --> 01:35:09.310 in Stockard's Channing's Just Friends and Roger Bender's On Now 1625 01:35:09.390 --> 01:35:13.630 and Again, recurring on Dallas and Parker Lewis's Can't Lose, 1626 01:35:14.770 --> 01:35:17.649 and lent his voice to the animated series The Critic. 1627 01:35:18.909 --> 01:35:23.779 He also guest starred as Hunter in DS9 in 1993, 1628 01:35:23.779 --> 01:35:27.609 and Quinn in Star Trek Voyagers in 96.

One of 1629 01:35:27.649 --> 01:35:30.609 Graham's other claims of fame is that he co-wrote the 1630 01:35:30.649 --> 01:35:36.670 Grateful Dead song, Victim or the Crime. Graham is survived 1631 01:35:36.750 --> 01:35:40.390 by his brothers Sam, son Jack and Henry, and their wives, 1632 01:35:41.069 --> 01:35:47.340 Tali and Jolie, and the grandchildren Nolan, Mecca, Brera, and Joey. 1633 01:35:52.079 --> 01:35:56.199 As we also will know him as Q2. No, not Q2. 1634 01:35:56.939 --> 01:35:57.989 One of the Qs. 1635 01:35:59.149 --> 01:36:05.930 Quinn. Quinn. We have more sad news, unfortunately, Eric. 1636 01:36:07.409 --> 01:36:11.920 Yeah, kind of a bummer for news this week. We've 1637 01:36:11.939 --> 01:36:16.260 got actor James Sloyan was unfortunately lost as well. So 1638 01:36:16.300 --> 01:36:22.659 we have information about his obituary. James Sloyan, an actor 1639 01:36:22.680 --> 01:36:25.859 who built a six-decade career in theater, film, and television, 1640 01:36:25.939 --> 01:36:29.359 died on July 22nd at his home in Sherman Oaks, California, 1641 01:36:29.399 --> 01:36:33.560 attended by his family. He was 85 years old. Friends 1642 01:36:33.600 --> 01:36:39.520 and colleagues remember him always present, always curious, courageous, inventive, loyal, 1643 01:36:40.210 --> 01:36:44.310 as well as brash, mouthy, and very urban. He was 1644 01:36:44.390 --> 01:36:47.880 one of a kind. He was born in Indianapolis, Indiana 1645 01:36:48.119 --> 01:36:53.479 on February 24th, 1941. His father's untimely death brought the 1646 01:36:53.539 --> 01:36:59.460 family to Albany, New York, where the young James established 1647 01:36:59.560 --> 01:37:03.890 truancy in several high schools. Established truancy, I love that. 1648 01:37:06.609 --> 01:37:09.850 He graduated from the American Academy of Dramatic Arts and 1649 01:37:09.890 --> 01:37:14.770 served three years in the U.S. Army stationed in Hauchuka, Arizona. 1650 01:37:15.630 --> 01:37:20.710 commended by his captain for revitalizing the post-dormant entertainment program. 1651 01:37:21.670 --> 01:37:23.649 Back in New York City, he found his footing as 1652 01:37:23.689 --> 01:37:28.270 an actor and dueling choreographer. He had feature and cameo 1653 01:37:28.350 --> 01:37:33.520 roles in films like The Sting, Xanadu, The Traveling Executioner, 1654 01:37:34.020 --> 01:37:37.439 and The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. He had leading 1655 01:37:37.500 --> 01:37:42.880 roles in made-for-television movies like The Disappearance of Amy with 1656 01:37:42.939 --> 01:37:48.439 Faye Dunaway and Bette Davis. and The Billionaire's Boys Club. 1657 01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:53.529 Jim peppered television with his guest-starring roles all over the 1658 01:37:53.569 --> 01:37:58.250 place as lovers, lawyers, heroes, and goons, notably portraying three 1659 01:37:58.310 --> 01:38:03.180 divergent species in the Star Trek pantheon. He is pre-deceased 1660 01:38:03.409 --> 01:38:07.640 by a sister, Judith Wilkes, a clinical coordinator at Liberty 1661 01:38:07.680 --> 01:38:10.899 House in Glen Falls, New York, and Patrick Sloyan, a 1662 01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:14.729 Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist. He is survived and deeply missed by 1663 01:38:14.779 --> 01:38:19.750 Deidre Lennon, his partner of six decades, and their children, Daniel, 1664 01:38:20.409 --> 01:38:25.189 a musician, and Samantha, an actor. This guy's face, if 1665 01:38:25.210 --> 01:38:27.840 you can't see our screen right now, you, you, you'll 1666 01:38:27.859 --> 01:38:29.659 have to wait till you can. But if you wreck it, 1667 01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:31.939 if you saw his face, you would recognize him because 1668 01:38:31.979 --> 01:38:34.460 he's been in everything. I of course, immediately recognized him 1669 01:38:34.500 --> 01:38:37.039 from the sting. Um, that's one of the very first 1670 01:38:37.079 --> 01:38:40.979 movies I can actually remember seeing as a child. Um, 1671 01:38:41.399 --> 01:38:42.920 but he was all over the place. Like if you 1672 01:38:42.939 --> 01:38:45.279 look at his IMDB, he's got upwards of a hundred 1673 01:38:45.350 --> 01:38:49.539 or so, um, credits in there, including things like chips, 1674 01:38:49.880 --> 01:38:52.359 which I watched all the time as a kid, including 1675 01:38:52.380 --> 01:38:55.000 things like wonder woman, which I watched all the time 1676 01:38:55.020 --> 01:38:58.199 as a kid. Um, you know, later on, he was 1677 01:38:58.260 --> 01:39:01.079 on shows like Simon and Simon, which I watched all 1678 01:39:01.119 --> 01:39:03.989 the time, the fall guy, which I watched all the time. 1679 01:39:04.149 --> 01:39:04.409 Right. 1680 01:39:04.489 --> 01:39:06.970 So he just was like one of those faces that's 1681 01:39:07.029 --> 01:39:10.510 just sort of defined my childhood, uh, in the seventies 1682 01:39:10.590 --> 01:39:14.750 and eighties. Um, so, uh, definitely will be missed a 1683 01:39:14.829 --> 01:39:20.770 great actor, uh, Unfortunately, we lost James Slian back in July. So, yeah. 1684 01:39:21.850 --> 01:39:24.090 There you have it, folks. That is our new story. 1685 01:39:24.109 --> 01:39:25.869 Lighten things up a little bit. What do you say? 1686 01:39:26.229 --> 01:39:26.770 There we go. 1687 01:39:27.489 --> 01:39:29.350 Yeah, let's lighten things up a little bit. David, what 1688 01:39:29.369 --> 01:39:29.770 do you think? 1689 01:39:30.750 --> 01:39:33.729 Yeah, I think we could just admire this awesome photo 1690 01:39:33.770 --> 01:39:36.899 right here and then just dive right into Strange New 1691 01:39:36.960 --> 01:39:41.800 World makes top 10. So, Strange New World is once 1692 01:39:41.840 --> 01:39:46.050 again rising in streaming charts. The series is currently the 1693 01:39:46.149 --> 01:39:49.350 number six most-watched TV show in the United States on 1694 01:39:49.390 --> 01:39:58.670 Paramount +. Per Flick Patrol, globally, it is ranked number nine. 1695 01:39:59.569

--> 01:40:02.529 Last week, Strange New Worlds reached number six in the 1696 01:40:02.590 --> 01:40:07.090 United States following the release of Orders of Magnitude, which 1697 01:40:07.329 --> 01:40:14.380 became the highest-rated episode of the series on IMDb. since 1698 01:40:14.399 --> 01:40:18.079 the season two finale. A few days later, though, the 1699 01:40:19.119 --> 01:40:23.229 show fell out of the top 10 until the release 1700 01:40:23.369 --> 01:40:28.550 of Once La Anna Time. However, the latest episode wasn't 1701 01:40:29.250 --> 01:40:34.170 as well received. The episode currently has a 4.3 out 1702 01:40:34.189 --> 01:40:37.909 of 10 on IMDb. Nearing the end of its fourth season, 1703 01:40:38.649 --> 01:40:43.970 with only one episode left scheduled to debut on September 24th, Today. 1704 01:40:47.470 --> 01:40:53.289 After that, there's one more six-episode season, meaning fans will 1705 01:40:53.409 --> 01:40:58.020 only get seven more episodes in total. The series started 1706 01:40:58.100 --> 01:41:04.039 strong in 2022, receiving praise from audiences and critics alike 1707 01:41:04.760 --> 01:41:10.250 in the first two seasons. However, the audience reception dropped 1708 01:41:10.310 --> 01:41:16.850 significantly in later seasons. While critics continue to say mostly 1709 01:41:16.949 --> 01:41:20.590 positive things about the show, audiences have been quick to 1710 01:41:20.670 --> 01:41:24.989 express their disappointment, saying the writing didn't live up to 1711 01:41:25.380 --> 01:41:31.119 previous seasons. In Season 4, Stranger Worlds generated a 36% 1712 01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:35.819 audience score on Rotten Tomato, the show's lowest score yet, 1713 01:41:36.420 --> 01:41:42.229 compared to a 90% critic score. So I would have 1714 01:41:42.250 --> 01:41:46.899 to agree. Yeah, the season definitely seems to be like 1715 01:41:46.920 --> 01:41:50.920 they had planned on multiple seasons. But I have a 1716 01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:53.500 feeling they didn't get the memo that they would be 1717 01:41:53.680 --> 01:41:56.930 canceled right away. So that's probably why we had so 1718 01:41:56.949 --> 01:41:59.550 many gimmicky episodes in this season. So that would be 1719 01:41:59.590 --> 01:42:00.029 my guess. 1720 01:42:01.189 --> 01:42:02.149 Well, David. 1721 01:42:02.170 --> 01:42:04.369 It's a cool dragon though, David. You got it? The 1722 01:42:04.390 --> 01:42:05.130 dragon is cool. 1723 01:42:05.670 --> 01:42:06.109 Awesome! 1724 01:42:06.880 --> 01:42:10.279 Well, and one thing that I'm always struck by, of course, 1725 01:42:10.579 --> 01:42:14.619 is the critics score things based on what they feel 1726 01:42:15.859 --> 01:42:18.869 contains the essence of a good story, like good writing, 1727 01:42:18.930 --> 01:42:21.850 good acting, good whatever. And so that's how they base 1728 01:42:21.890 --> 01:42:26.010 their scores. Popular opinion is often based on that and 1729 01:42:26.069 --> 01:42:32.729 then also... bots attacking things like the imdb. 1730 01:42:31.470 --> 01:42:34.020 Like rating superman movie but the monkey on the. 1731 01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:37.359 Computer yeah so the fact that strange new worlds um 1732 01:42:37.439 --> 01:42:41.659 this season has a 30 36 on rotten tomatoes i 1733 01:42:41.699 --> 01:42:46.600 wouldn't like yes has this podcast in particular been hard 1734 01:42:46.680 --> 01:42:50.170 on the gimmicks of this season yes why do the 1735 01:42:50.310 --> 01:42:53.829 critics like feel better about this season i think it's 1736 01:42:53.869 --> 01:42:56.250 because if you actually look at it outside of the 1737 01:42:56.369 --> 01:43:00.140 gimmick of each of these episodes each episode has tried 1738 01:43:00.180 --> 01:43:04.300 its best you know with varying success to explore character 1739 01:43:04.340 --> 01:43:06.619 stories along the way and i think the critics love 1740 01:43:06.659 --> 01:43:09.609 that type of stuff so um i just think it's 1741 01:43:09.649 --> 01:43:13.109 interesting like this 90 to 36 percent is a huge 1742 01:43:13.729 --> 01:43:18.229 spread I would bet you that the real number for 1743 01:43:18.270 --> 01:43:21.609 the audience score is much higher than that, but probably 1744 01:43:21.670 --> 01:43:25.550 not 90%. It's probably in the 60s or 70s or 1745 01:43:25.590 --> 01:43:28.850 something like that. I just wanted to say something about 1746 01:43:28.890 --> 01:43:33.489 that because these numbers don't mean anything in the long run. 1747 01:43:33.529 --> 01:43:38.359 They're probably giving it a high score because they're saying 1748 01:43:38.380 --> 01:43:40.140 that it's finally over or something. I don't know. 1749 01:43:40.899 --> 01:43:41.859 No, the critics give. 1750 01:43:45.340 --> 01:43:48.260 I encourage everybody to do research on how critics typically 1751 01:43:48.319 --> 01:43:51.279 score episodes of shows and what are the factors that 1752 01:43:51.319 --> 01:43:55.989 they typically look for when they rate. And remember, they 1753 01:43:56.029 --> 01:43:59.829 get to see things before we do, right? So they're 1754 01:43:59.890 --> 01:44:03.289 actually able to give their initial opinions before the court 1755 01:44:03.310 --> 01:44:05.449 of public opinion sort of attacks the. 1756 01:44:05.340 --> 01:44:06.119 Thing, right? 1757 01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:06.340 Yeah. 1758 01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:10.300 They also have first viewing of it too I would imagine. 1759 01:44:10.180 --> 01:44:12.340 Yeah I just want to encourage everybody to like not 1760 01:44:12.420 --> 01:44:15.699 read super deeply into this and make whatever you do 1761 01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:21.260 ensure that you're making your own opinions about these shows yeah. 1762 01:44:21.100 --> 01:44:21.739 What were you saying Jim? 1763 01:44:21.779 --> 01:44:23.119 Well the critics. 1764 01:44:24.729 --> 01:44:29.189 Like Starfleet Academy and the fans completely hated it supposedly I. 1765

01:44:30.810 --> 01:44:35.869 Believe that but I will say this critics okay. 1766 01:44:35.550 --> 01:44:42.060 If you ask me to review some dramatic romantic comedy. 1767 01:44:43.439 --> 01:44:46.739 No, I'm not going to give this a massively high 1768 01:44:46.779 --> 01:44:48.479 score because that's not my thing. 1769 01:44:49.340 --> 01:44:52.260 But if you ask me to review some sci-fi movie 1770 01:44:52.279 --> 01:44:55.460 with cool aliens and stuff, that's up my alley. So 1771 01:44:55.939 --> 01:44:57.659 I think it all depends on what, you know, these 1772 01:44:57.729 --> 01:45:00.710 critics are looking at these episodes different than you and 1773 01:45:00.829 --> 01:45:05.069 I are. You know, they're looking at it like, you know, 1774 01:45:05.090 --> 01:45:09.229 the Academy Award winnings nuances and the camera angle and 1775 01:45:09.250 --> 01:45:11.470 the lighting of the plant on the table with the 1776 01:45:11.550 --> 01:45:14.560 shadow and whatever. And you and I are sitting there thinking, 1777 01:45:14.810 --> 01:45:18.100 wait a minute, a Klingon would never drink Chardonnay. 1778 01:45:18.119 --> 01:45:20.420 You know, I mean, it's a different thing. 1779 01:45:20.939 --> 01:45:25.420 So, and this next story that I have, I'll actually 1780 01:45:25.439 --> 01:45:26.439 put him here for Paul. 1781 01:45:27.720 --> 01:45:31.760 Unfortunately, Paul's not here. So I'll try to fill Paul's 1782 01:45:31.859 --> 01:45:32.659 shoes on this one. 1783 01:45:34.310 --> 01:45:40.399 Nacelle announces price increases for Wave 3 action figures. Brian Volkweis, 1784 01:45:40.409 --> 01:45:42.750 who we had on the podcast last week, two weeks ago, 1785 01:45:42.960 --> 01:45:43.399 last week? 1786 01:45:43.859 --> 01:45:46.600 Last week. We did two shows last week. 1787 01:45:46.659 --> 01:45:48.699 Last week, double episode last week, yeah. 1788 01:45:49.159 --> 01:45:50.930 Yeah, check him out. He was a lot of fun. 1789 01:45:50.970 --> 01:45:52.659 Paul did a great job talking to him. 1790 01:45:53.590 --> 01:45:56.550 Announced in a video on Facebook that we can expect 1791 01:45:56.590 --> 01:45:59.109 the pre-orders for the third wave of Star Trek figures 1792 01:45:59.409 --> 01:46:01.300 to go up before the end of the year. A 1793 01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:04.739 little Star Trek update from us. The good news is 1794 01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:09.180 a billion percent confirmed that wave three pre-sales will be 1795 01:46:09.220 --> 01:46:12.880 coming out this year. The bad news is we unfortunately 1796 01:46:12.939 --> 01:46:14.960 have to raise the prices a little bit due to 1797 01:46:15.199 --> 01:46:18.640 all the bonkers rising costs we're dealing with. 1798 01:46:19.039 --> 01:46:19.300 Oh, no. 1799 01:46:20.020 --> 01:46:22.619 What a time to be a toy maker. Thanks for 1800 01:46:22.699 --> 01:46:25.750 everyone's patience and hit me up in the comments or 1801 01:46:25.829 --> 01:46:28.930 DM me with any questions. And I hope everyone had 1802 01:46:28.970 --> 01:46:30.510 a great 60th anniversary. 1803 01:46:30.850 --> 01:46:31.609 I know I did. 1804 01:46:32.090 --> 01:46:42.319 I bought two popcorn buckets. Wave 3 includes the original series, Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Uhura, Sulu, Chekhov, Scotty, Chappell, Rand, 1805 01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:47.460 and a Roddenberry Lucille Ball double pack. He didn't say 1806 01:46:47.539 --> 01:46:50.140 exactly how much of a price increase we'll be seeing, 1807 01:46:51.180 --> 01:46:53.699 just that they would be more expensive than Wave 1 1808 01:46:53.699 --> 01:46:59.569 and 2, which are currently $ 28. 99. So that, my friends, 1809 01:46:59.890 --> 01:47:03.670 wraps up yet another Trek Talking and Beyond. Can you 1810 01:47:03.710 --> 01:47:04.130 believe it? 1811 01:47:04.810 --> 01:47:05.130 Wow. 1812 01:47:06.130 --> 01:47:06.960 How do we do it? 1813 01:47:06.970 --> 01:47:11.319 I think David does a great job with the video, 1814 01:47:11.340 --> 01:47:13.079 so thank you so much, David. 1815 01:47:13.119 --> 01:47:13.659 It was awesome. 1816 01:47:14.810 --> 01:47:17.199 Yeah, so I must have had them mixed up or something. 1817 01:47:17.239 --> 01:47:19.640 That newsreel was like way at the bottom for some 1818 01:47:19.699 --> 01:47:22.199 other reason. I don't know. But yeah, it's been a 1819 01:47:22.199 --> 01:47:22.659 lot of fun. 1820 01:47:22.680 --> 01:47:26.340 Thank you so much. We got through it. We got 1821 01:47:26.380 --> 01:47:28.420 through it. Thank you so much, Eric. It was a 1822 01:47:28.439 --> 01:47:29.840 lot of fun tonight. Thank you, Eric. 1823 01:47:30.579 --> 01:47:31.899 Absolutely. Thanks very much, guys. 1824 01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:34.520 And thank you so much to Charles. It was a 1825 01:47:34.539 --> 01:47:35.619 lot of fun. Thank you, Charles. 1826 01:47:36.279 --> 01:47:37.250 Oh, always fun. 1827 01:47:38.229 --> 01:47:38.829 As you wish. 1828 01:47:38.850 --> 01:47:40.770 As you command. 1829 01:47:43.039 --> 01:47:44.539 Thank you so much to V for coming on and 1830 01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:45.520 talking with us as well. 1831 01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:51.850 Thank you, V. This is unseemable. 1832 01:47:54.329 --> 01:47:57.329 And I'm your most excellent host, Uncle Jim. Please, everybody, 1833 01:47:57.750 --> 01:48:01.189 stay safe and be good to each other. Hailing frequencies 1834 01:48:01.649 --> 01:48:03.250 are closed. Good night, everybody. 1835 01:48:03.970 --> 01:48:04.329 Good night. 1836 01:48:04.350 --> 01:48:05.270 Have long and prosper. 1837 01:48:05.289 --> 01:48:14.510 I am. Continue with the operation. Where to, number one? 1838 01:48:14.529 --> 01:48:21.939 Your apartment. you. 1839 01:48:48.750 --> 01:48:49.100 Thank you.