התמלול המלא של You Didn't Start This: The Science of Inherited Trauma

personality or behavior. I mean some of these things are carried in the body and they manifest in the physical. So like health imbalances, there's a lot to unpack there. So there's many aspects, not all of it is conscious and I would say that most of it is not. I wouldn't say that you having anger issues or character issues is necessarily going to be able to be blamed on your grandparents, but they can influence what you cultivate in your current life. This isn't a new concept because like in the late ⁓ there was ⁓ Albert ⁓ M.V. and he had started kind of like experimenting and proving that electromagnetic frequencies, et cetera, impact, you know, human health. And one those is the vibrations inside our bodies as well and be used for healing. So there's a lot. in this. And I think when it comes to like the holistic world as a natural path, a lot of people come and see me about diet and lifestyle and the things that are going wrong in their life. And a lot of them are shocked when I mentioned, okay, so what's going on emotionally or what are some things that has that have may have influenced how you feel about life and etc. So by using things like homopathy, box flowers, natural health modalities. you can actually clear these energetic patterns from the body, which back to your point about Dr. Bradley Nelson, figuring out that you could pick up these subtle energies in the body and release them. Tre: Yeah, and they even, I think we linked on one of our previous episodes that me and Ravi did on generational trauma, we linked a study that was done on lab rats where the father... The male father of the offspring was had introduced to all kinds of trauma stuff, things, and then ⁓ taken out of the picture and the ⁓ actually never even met or was around the father, but had the same cortisol reaction from what ⁓ the went through so that that stress hormone reacted the same way. ⁓ And you know, Andrea: Mm-hmm. Tre: like you said, manifesting even in physical health problems or even either there's a lot of stuff linked in these studies to mental health issues with like PTSD, emotional dysregulation and stuff like that. guess aside from in what Dr. Bradley Nelson talked about clearing these, you know, generational trapped energies and imbalances in the body. I see a lot of these studies talking about bringing awareness to this stuff, but are some of the solutions that you see with this that be used, especially on the physical side, if ⁓ that's how starting to ⁓ itself? ⁓ Andrea: I mean, I don't think it's necessarily physical. It's got to work together. So for example, one of the emotional roots traditional Chinese medicine ⁓ is the lymphatic system. And it's where we can like hold on to grief. Let's say you have a like a loss of a parent, someone you cared about, and you don't process that well, or you hold on to it. And then the same person suddenly has, you know, lymphatic imbalances, things related to that body system. And let's just say they're doing all the right things. They're running movement, but they're still having issues. Sometimes the solution is not physical related, but emotional. And there's things like homopathy, breathing, you know, there's a lot of pointers to having practice and deep breathing like four, seven, nine, or meditation that can help the body release emotional energy that's trapped in the body or just becoming aware of it. You know, sometimes even your own awareness can release something if you will. Okay. I'm holding onto that actually, and I'm not realizing it and letting it go. And your body naturally does its job. But often, at least in like our culture today, there's not a lot of awareness around that. So you can have so many things trapped in the body, not even mentioning the fact that things are passed down, but just in your current life to where you would want to utilize things like in my practice, I use bio-energetic test seed. And that comes with a. frequency remedy that will address what that scan picks up. Or you have things like Bach flowers, which I love Bach flowers are incredible. People can look up Dr. Bach online, but he discovered that these certain flowers held a frequency and he would have matched them to emotions and states of mind. And he would talk to people and find out what's going on and listen to certain emotional cues and words and create a remedy for them based on type and mood. And those would help people. release trapped energy and sometimes emotions, patterns, know, ways of thinking things that might not be on health, like be unhealthy in the body or if you find yourself, you I'm always thinking about the worst or I can't say no. So he found a way to like kind of help people find a path back to balance using black flowers. they're incredible. is another great tool that is again, ⁓ with frequencies. It can be used in like physical imbalances, but emotional as well. So there's a lot of different methods. And then like you mentioned, the body code, the body color, they actually, you can buy books that kind of teach you, but again, our own subconscious does have a bias. So staying there and working on yourself, it can have some benefit, but if there's the really deep stuff, you actually will find that your own personal subconscious and safety measures will keep you out. of releasing the really hard stuff, like something that happened in your childhood or some really tragic event. Those things are usually harder to do on your own. So it's helpful to have a practitioner or someone help you through that process. Tre: Right? it's crazy. People find that maybe some the hardest roadblocks to getting to that next step, that next in their personal journey, their personal growth actually could be these, baggage ⁓ that we carry, carry. ⁓ part of the, part the study that how Dr. Bradley Nelson explained is it's, it's literally, Andrea: Mm-hmm. Tre: a weight that you're carrying this this energy is stored in the body whether it's you know in an

organ or just in a specific area it could be all over the place but I mean if you if you think if you had if you put a one pound weight on you for every time something bad happened and you trapped it or inherited some of the stuff from a parent or a grandparent you know Once you get, you know, that might not be a lot if you have like five things, right? But when you start getting 50, 60, 70, 80 different things, like would you be able to go run a marathon? Would it be hard to do normal tasks that should be easy? You know, it's some of these things could be the very things, you know, holding you back from obtaining your goals or. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Tre: They've even he's even found certain traps you in certain belief patterns like ⁓ you're not you're not good enough ⁓ whether you're not enough. You're not strong enough to, you get that promotion at work. You're not ⁓ there's belief patterns that will keep you trapped and where you're at and shedding ⁓ releasing that letting that baggage go is ⁓ is paramount to getting to that next step for a lot of people. like you said, the bringing awareness to it, even awareness that it's a thing, because at in Western society, there's not a whole lot of awareness that this is actually a thing. ⁓ It's you're you're you just got it or you don't. You hear a lot. You either just ⁓ you either it and you just got it or you don't. ⁓ And that's necessarily I think everybody. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Tre: has the capability of unquote getting it. Some might just have to get through some stuff to get it. So bringing awareness to it ⁓ is ⁓ really ⁓ part it. Andrea: I think awareness is good. And you need to take action. So for example, I've had clients where, you know, they had all this pain going on in their bodies and it's like, they're doing the work, doing the process, but you dig in deeper. And it turns out when you look at the emotional aspects, some of their joint pain or hip pain or whatever was not about anything physical that needed to be addressed. It was about the emotional. or, you know, for example, the liver and gallbladder hold on to things like anger and rage. So maybe your gallbladder and liver aren't in balance and working correctly and you never considered that, ⁓ maybe I don't express my anger. There's actually a really great clip I sent you tonight by Dr. Gabor Matei. And he even talked about how 80 % of autoimmune disease were in women. And he, in his experiences, there was four types of that created this like, I guess, perfect storm and these people that he knew. Do you have that to play? Tre: Yes, yes I do. Andrea: It's just a really good clip and he just puts it out so well. So I really like what he pointed out there. I would say speaking to personally, like you see it in the circles where it's like, oh, you just gotta be a good person. And they put these personas. And here you have him talking about the people that didn't understand that there's a healthy need to express your anger. There's healthy ways to

express your anger. And so these people are not expressing their anger or they're people pleasers or they're. always walking the egg shells and just putting a mask on. And then there are other ones getting these unexplained, in some cases, diseases where people are like, well, I don't know how this started. Or, you know, in the medical side, it's like, oh, well, we don't really know what to do. Here's a medication. And it's like, there's an actual deep root cause and he's like going over that so well. And it's not just attributed to those behaviors alone. I mean, if you're someone that's kind of become, you know, dead to your emotions. That's the best way to put it. If you don't express them or you're always hold them inside or you express them in unhealthy ways, then again, you're impacting your physical body and your emotional self. So there's just so many things here. like, I know I have my own personal experiences because I did see a body code practitioner years ago. started. And one of the things I noticed first, because I felt so like tense all the time to stress and then, know, I would be fine and look fine, it's like I could feel my heart rate going up and stuff. And one things I noticed after seeing her is my breathing had changed and my heart rate had changed. And it was like just this feeling of like this burden was like let go of off my body and it changed my physical health. That's like the first thing I noticed was my physical health seemed to be shifting. And the more I saw her, the more it was like, these things were impacting me, you know, I was telling you the story today how I was in my aunt's pool around six or seven and I couldn't swim and had no floaties and fell in and it was like nine feet deep and my cousin ended up pulling me out. But that was one of the things that came up when she went through this process with me was that moment and that terror that got trapped in my body because I mean, I didn't really know how to process that situation, right? So there's just so many things we can go on in our lives where we have a moment in time. that we forgot we might have moved on from, but our body can't score. Tre: Right. I think there's another layer of that. A of people as children were taught that you couldn't even, ⁓ not did you know how to, were you not taught how to process certain emotions, but you weren't even allowed to have certain emotions. Like, you're, you're not allowed to get angry. That's not okay. We don't, ⁓ anger is not ⁓ Andrea: Mm-hmm. So that doesn't get rid of anger. Tre: It does not get rid of anger. It's gonna it's gonna go somewhere and we've talked about this on the show. It's it's going to go somewhere. So if that is suppressed that's going to itself in some way and like like you I ⁓ saw body code practitioner ⁓ and know one thing came that it came to me is it's almost like you know, having a refrigerator and you open it up and it's just stocked full of rotting food and you're trying to put something healthy in the fridge and there's just no room that you can't put it anywhere. So when you're trying to have good stuff in your life, if there's no place to put it, then have to get rid of all the junk. You have to clean out all the bad stuff. And had found that ⁓ even me some of old injuries that were like debilitating chronic injuries that I was having that I thought was as I was in a really nasty car accident years ago ⁓ I had chronic lower back pain as a result of it. And years after the fact when I should have been ⁓ healed, didn't have anything necessarily ⁓ medically wrong me to be like, ⁓ well that's That's why he's having this pain. was just, well, I had a bad car accident. and it wasn't until after clearing a lot of trapped emotions that that pain just started to go away. And found that trapped emotions can also start attaching itself to weak points already weak points in the body. ⁓ So you're, you know, going through stuff, you're not expressing emotions, healthy, you're not processing stuff. you know, if you have weak points in the body, those can clutch, you know, attached to, to those weak points and boom, you're dealing with chronic pain until that's handled. So that's a, another example of Andrea: Yeah, and I would even and I would even say that the car accident might not have been what caused it in the first place. It just added to it. Like the trapped emotions were already there, but they just it just got worse over time because there's only so long that energy can remain trapped in the body and it's got to like manifest. And when people are like, I've debated people on this because they're like, ⁓ how do you know that's real? that I'm like, your tears. are the ultimate proof that your emotions have a physical impact. Because if that wasn't the case, you wouldn't be able to see it, right? So like when you're crying and something happens, maybe there are tears of joy, maybe there are tears of tragedy, that is a physical manifestation of emotion. So of course it impacts other parts of the body. Your tears are one of them. Tears are a way to relieve your nervous system and give it a breath like. Tears are actually good because if you hold back tears, one of the things that I've seen a lot is when you suppress your emotions, suppress crying, for example, ungutched tears, it's stored in the kidneys and that can lead to kidney imbalances. So, and I've met people that are like, oh, I just can't cry. never, I actually don't think I cry ever. I try, but I can't. So again, suggests a deeper root cause. And you know, we don't think about these things. We're busy about life, we're going, maybe we're too busy and we just never thought of it. And before you know it, you're like 20 years passed by and you're like, ⁓ I don't think I cry. But I have, you know, in my kidneys or my gut or my digestive system. get, know, some people are like, ⁓ I just always feel nervous and I don't know why. And it's like, there's a deeper situation

going on here. And don't get me wrong. I feel like from friends I have and reading experiences, we're also not really taught how to deal with our emotions. We're either taught to suppress them or react to them in an unhealthy way. It doesn't mean that every experience, it has to be trapped in the body. But when you don't know how to deal with these things, this is the case often. Tre: Well, and that's, that's a, that's a big, big, big part of it learning to express them in a healthy manner and not trap emotions. mean, there's ⁓ people don't know how ⁓ are looking for a way out, whether in most of it is an unhealthy way, whether that's just straight up suppressing it, bottling it up, letting it out in an unhealthy way or coping with. And that's, that's where get a lot of addiction from ⁓ from trying to cope with these emotions and these things that you don't know how to process. You were never taught. And probably cause your ⁓ parents never taught and there's that, that generational thing as well. Andrea: Well, and I'd say like the generational aspect, you know, it comes to ancestral energetic, I guess, trauma or emotions passed down. Those things you don't have any conscious awareness of. You don't have any way of knowing. Like, for example, if you're a Holocaust survivor or a survivor of what's happening in Gaza or their children or, you know, things like what happened to the Native Americans or if you're in a war and stuff. those things can go back like 1920 generations. Like in my experiences, was like, like for example, 10 generations of dread passed down, you know, no one wants to start their life off with the emotion dread, right? In their bodies and not have any conscience of it. And then you go through your own experiences like in this life. And then you kind of feed onto that. And that kind of reinforces that energetic experience. So these things kind of weigh you down. It's just like picking up on these little things. Like you said, like the weights. that can weigh down your progress, your health, how you think, how you feel. It's an important process, especially if you have unexplained health issues that you're like, ⁓ I've seen all these doctors and stuff and nobody can explain what's going on. There might be a really deep root there that's being missed because we don't talk about this enough and we don't introduce it. And a lot of groups of people too that are like, that's witchcraft. No, this is scientifically proven. is physics, right? Your emotions impact your health. And I would argue in my experience, I believe that the energetic emotional aspects of our bodies are the reason we do have the physical manifest. Granted getting your arms chopped off or you know, those things. Obviously we know it. We know what happens first there. But yeah, it's an important topic and it needs to stop being taboo. It needs to stop being, we just don't talk about that. No, energy. Tre: you Andrea: healing and releasing is real and it is needed in society in a big way. Tre: Right. Well, even something as simple as, is that, that, that example, you let's say somebody in your, and your ancestry did literally have their arm chopped off. Very traumatic thing. Very physical thing. Right. ⁓ afterwards, if that person did not know how to deal with the fact that ⁓ lost my arm, let's say, let's, ⁓ say it was a male, it was a man. And then he felt Andrea: Mm-hmm. Tre: Absolutely helpless. He felt worthless. He felt like he couldn't be a provider for his family or what have you and couldn't process that boom you he trapped the energy and emotion of hopelessness worry and That got passed down to his child and I and started that cycle That's how that's one example of how these things can start off and then also Andrea: Mm-hmm. Thank Tre: The other thing was thinking, you you brought up in the digestive, you know, trapped emotions in the digestion, you know, there are so many people today that have issues with weight that will work out that try all the different types of diets, stuff that work for thousands, if not millions of people, but it's not working for them. ⁓ then. They have their own feeling of this is hopeless. This is hopeless. I dread working out. I dread doing this because it's just useless and could be again trapping a whole new thing. So there's almost this, ⁓ very real danger of a compounding effect with this as well until that cycle gets broken or that gets dealt with ⁓ That's one of the reasons why I know both of us are, you know, very, very thankful for Dr. Nelson and what he's discovered in his work and what he's done. Cause that, that is a very real way for people to deal with this stuff. Even without necessarily having the full awareness of what it is and being able to find that and release that stuff. But you know, this is some stuff that maybe people really can sit down and start thinking about because or else you can sit there and start racking your brain around how, do I deal with this stuff? How do I get through this stuff? This doesn't make any sense. Andrea: Even deeper than Bradley Nelson. mean, obviously figured out through reading and figuring stuff out too, and his own experiences because Ayurveda medicine and TCM had this stuff down in like ancient times. Okay, they recognized that there was a wheel and like, they recognize that the liver did represent, you know, issues with anger, they recognize the kidneys and the best chairs and Ayurveda medicine. These things are also the energy centers of the body that they discovered. discovered and how those impact our well-being, our emotions, we are, what our path is in life, and how we're handling the situations around us. So these ancient practices that people are like, that's ⁓ old, what's the primitive medicine. And no, it's like, they were so for not having all these bells and whistles that we have today. And it's almost like the new age of the bells and whistles and the allopathic model have taken away a very important

aspect. And I would even say religion too, because, you know, in some like practices, like there's so many different versions of Christianity, right? They tell you that, oh, if you say this prayer, everything's fixed and yeah, everything's taken care of. And it's like, you have to actually have awareness and do the work. like, you like for example today you can't go work out for me and get me a six pack just for me asking you to and stuff if the same speaks to our own bodies mind and emotions and our physical health takes awareness and action but if you have no awareness that hey let's just say ⁓ my mother was like maybe you found out your mother was like sexually abused or an abusive relationship and stuff that stuff In turn, like this happens, there's studies proving this during pregnancy, let's say that happened to your parents, your mother, that emotional state that your mother was in the whole time becomes a part of you because you were also experiencing her emotions and her energy being passed on to you in the womb. Like this starts before you even enter the world. So in those situations, yeah, you wouldn't, you can't just, okay, I said a prayer ⁓ I go to church on Sundays. or, you know, while we talked about it in therapy and now I'm fine, those things have a place, but this goes so much deeper. I mean, even little behaviors in your children, if you like have a four or five year old child and you're like, maybe I don't have a reason to be so anxious all the time. I'm a good parent and stuff. Start looking into maybe there's something that you passed out to them or something that you're not aware of. And like, that's where I like bought flowers because You can sit there and pick up on behaviors and pick out, okay, this flower matches this. And they're an amazing tool and they're so simple to use once you figure out how they work. Same with homopathy. So there's so many methods. You don't even need to just see a practitioner. You can start there, something simple. I mean, these simple things that you can do at home to address emotional imbalances. Tre: feel like we're in a culture now of just bypassing quick fixes, even if there's harmful ramifications. And you see that a big one right now is ozempic. It's the miracle drug that you can just lose all kinds of weight, look the way you want to look. But there's a very real consequence to using ozempic health-wise. People are themselves so much that they are okay with the side effect as long as they can be comfortable within their own skin. ⁓ Andrea: I would say some people, not all people, someone like 800 pounds goes on ozenthic because they don't have any other way and they're going to like, they might not make it because their organs are being crushed. I can see where that is a different motivation. But yeah, you see the celebrities right now, they're openly now, ⁓ I'm on ozenthic and stuff. they're really, they were already skinny. They were already looked great, but it's not enough. And that's where you get that. you have women that do all the right things to eat their diet, they drink water, they are doing all the things to get healthy physically, but they're holding on to weight. And one of the things is lack of safety. When your nervous system is in this constant fight for flight, even when you're eating the best diet, maybe you're working out, doing all the things. As long as that fight for flight is like in like nonstop mode, your cortisol is high, your insulin is in balance. So you can be doing all the right things and sit there going, Why am I still having trouble losing weight? I don't eat bad. I do all the right things. This can be a really deep part of that. And I've had this discussion with lots of people. like, it's not all just diet exercise. And yes, foundations of health are important. Like you need to be eating healthy. You need to be moving. But beyond that, there's breathing, your nervous system, your emotions. Your emotions in the present, not even trapped emotions. I trapped emotions half the time come from your present emotional state, not being able to navigate life, lack of emotional intelligence, lack of boundaries, lack of letting go of stuff that you have no control over. This is where that kind of comes into play too. So if you can have that awareness and go, okay, so I'm going to address my body and figure out what's going on. Do I have trapped emotions? Everybody has trapped emotions. ⁓ What in the present do I need to change so I stop a cycle? And then you can start getting healthy and you can know what it's like to breathe deep. Like how many times do we forget to breathe? Like I just did just now. Take a deep breath and go, ⁓ okay. And you feel relaxed and calm. There's so many things that we don't realize put us into autopilot and we don't see what's actually going on within ourselves because we're so distracted or we're so caught up in life where things are hard. And when your life is hard, it's really hard to even focus on what's going on internally with you or with your body or things you don't notice. Tre: And a lot of this stuff seems, especially with the generational aspect of it, seems unfair. I mean, if you're starting off life with a dysregulated nervous system because of what happened to your mom or your dad or grandparent or great grandparent, however, it seems kind of, it seems unfair. being like having, that that's a possibility. ⁓ why, why am I always anxious? Why am I always feeling this way? If you, if you start to sit there and think back, man, I've kind of always been this way. Nothing. don't think anything happened, but I just have always kind of felt this way. it like, it's, it's one of those things where like you, you don't know what you don't know. If you've never experienced what it's like to be. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Tre: calm or not be anxious or not be, you know, having a short fuse angry all the time. It's you said, it's like autopilot. You're on autopilot and you don't even

know it because you don't know anything else. You don't know anything outside of it. So, and fact that everybody has some, a ⁓ everybody trapped emotions because life is learning. Life is ⁓ figuring out. And at one point you didn't know how to regulate certain things or to navigate certain aspects of life. That's just, you can't get away from it. Some probably more than others or, or worse. And that doesn't even mean if somebody, if you didn't have a very, let's say by your account, you don't have a very traumatic life or history. That doesn't mean you don't have a lot of baggage that you're carrying. I've seen a lot of people think that, well, Yeah, my childhood wasn't that bad or my life wasn't that bad or I didn't have that much going going on and then come to find out man, they were carrying so much on their shoulders every day just like those five pound weights and it was 15 of them that they were carrying around they didn't even recognize it because Everybody always compares themselves to the most extreme cases Andrea: Mm-hmm. Tre: the most extreme life. Well, I didn't have it as bad as this person or I didn't go through it like this person. a trapped emotion of fear is a trapped emotion of fear, no matter how fearful the situation was. So if you were, if you were scared, you were scared. If you didn't know how to process that fear, you didn't know how to process that fear and you trapped it. So just because somebody was, had a more traumatic history than you doesn't mean you should just negate that ⁓ I'm probably good or start trashing yourself that, well, I'm feeling this and they had it so much worse and they're feeling they have an excuse to feel that way. I don't really have an excuse to feel that way and start hating on yourself for having some type of issue to work through or your own growth to work through. Andrea: I'll also add to it is it's a process too. It's not something that you just, I saw body co-partitioner once and everything was fixed. The other thing is you can have all these things cleared and worked on, but then you have to change how maybe you're doing things. Like if you're someone that can't say no, and you give in to everybody, you give into a bad behavior, you give into things that are not good. ⁓ then you risk, you know, you can trap other people's emotions too. So if someone has bad intentions or, you know, has bad things to think about you and you're vulnerable, then you end up trapping their emotional frequencies too, because everything is energy and everything is a vibration. know, Albert Einstein, you know, even talked about this. He figured it out even back then. Again, people understood these things. Some of the biggest geniuses, you know, known in our history and So if everything is a vibration of frequency, then you need to understand that your thoughts, your emotions, your interactions with other people, all of our human bodies have a field around them, our own electromagnetic field. And what gets inside those exchanges, like there's studies proving that when you hug for 20 seconds, you kind of bond your nervous system and energy together. And it creates a calming effect. creates dopamine rising, hugging your children, laughing. All these things impact us. So they can impact us in a positive way or a negative way. And it's so much deeper than we realize. So it's important to understand and research and you're having things going on in your life. You're like, okay, I've done every diet on the planet. I have taken supplements and this and that, but no one's mentioned your emotional wellbeing, your thoughts, what has impacted your life? Maybe what you think about yourself like, ⁓ I'm not pretty enough or. you know, I'm just fat or I call myself stupid and an idiot all the time. You are impacting your body's health. Fear is stored in the adrenal glands. That organ is directly impacted when it comes to our cortisol and how calm we are. And the right sitting under the adrenal glands is the kidneys and that's your unguessed tears. So all these things come together. So you're sitting here going, oh, I'm just going to be like, I'm just going to give up because nothing's getting better. But these things weren't considered and I would encourage you to find that path that next step forward. Tre: And you see in society, people running from these things or not knowing how to process or deal with them, it's at an all-time high. is at an all-time high, whether ⁓ be drinking, smoking, pornography, drugs. on rise. It's like the people genuinely believe that whole compounding effect that I was talking about earlier is, is reach is starting really to reach critical levels in society ⁓ the, the mental health of is deteriorating rapidly and people just are trying to find anything and everything to deal with it. And it's working. It's, ⁓ it's really working. People are hating themselves. don't we've seen ⁓ as mental disorders as we now in our history. mean, so many and there's just ⁓ nobody knows what do with it. So we're just medicating the crap out of it now. ⁓ Andrea: I think there's always been somewhat of these things going on, but I think in ancient cultures they had kind of a standard and addressed it more to where, you know, it was normal to have healthy thoughts, a healthy mind, being able to... there's more support in like communities. Yeah, every era has their dark things. I think now you can see it more because you have social media, you have the media in general. Like you see it on like Facebook. Sometimes you write a post and then there's someone around there like acting crazy. Like you sit there and you're like, Whoa, would you talk this way to a person like in person? Maybe you would, but like that's crazy. Or my friend Donna shared a post about a child with autism. Someone had posted their story and just the struggle. And there was like so many deranged comments on there about, ⁓ should have aborted that kid. We don't need this crazy. child and

all these things and all I saw when she shared that was the children with disabilities wasn't the problem here that people comedy now however I have some serious questions like how are you this dark so far gone that you would say those things about a child struggling with something far out of his control or her control like autism is not something that that child has awareness in and Nothing can really be done just like in the way these people were talking. I was like, ⁓ if you just tell them to shut up and be quiet, they would stop all these comments. And I'm just thinking, what happened to you to make you so awful? that, just say that, like you could even have thought that and not put it in public for everybody to see. That's how far we're gone. It's really sad. Tre: Well, and maybe that's also just a degrade in society because I heard people in person say stuff like that on numerous occasions. ⁓ you said, was a certain level of, just certain things weren't ⁓ acceptable. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Tre: in certain societies or you risk being an outcast and at least back then if you were cast out of society that was pretty much a death sentence right you had to have community you had to have people around you you know now you Andrea: not saying all of that was good. Like I'm not saying like we can go back and look at stuff where you know you're outcasted society because you refuse to comply to some horrible things. So I mean, I'm not saying every every part of this existence has this dark history. It's dark moments. People, you know, you see people always like lately when you look at the political spectrum, it's all about how bad Muslims are right? Because of one bad action of a few or we're not sitting there going no, this is just Tre: Right. Andrea: people behaving poorly and badly. This has nothing to do with the spiritual system or you have all these pedophiles showing up in churches that are pastors or they're youth pastors and you find out down the road. Communities also hide things, family dynamics and et cetera, to where that's where you get a child that never can express their emotions or they become a chameleon to what's around them. Then they become an adult and they're like, well, I just didn't feel angry all the time. And anger can be sadness. Someone that never ⁓ themselves to get sad because life was so hard that they just made anger their friend. because I didn't want to go there. So it's easier to get angry and push people away or be angry at yourself than it is to express brokenness, sadness, and feel what you lost, feel that grief. So there's just so many aspects of it, right? in this country alone, I would say that we have some of the worst when it comes to understanding emotions and how these things impact our health and our lives. Like you can't just throw drugs at someone and say have a nice day when they're telling you, hey, I am depressed, anxious, I don't know why. Tre: But that's, that's the first, that's the normal go-to. And that's, mean, that's the sound you need to get on meds. Are you off your meds? You're there. You got issues. You got problems. Somebody who like, that's, the number one go-to in this country is some type of medication to deal with emotions just Stuff that's normalized. I mean it's become normalized even before in our generation that ⁓ if you had a long week What do people do if you have a long week if you have a long week? ⁓ go you go to go drink That's that's that's the thing you just go drink or you go to the club go to the bar, you know, whatever there's type of outlet that's Has to be and it's always and more times than not. It's something that's more harmful to you mentally Physically and there's just not I don't hear a lot of people man. You're you're mad. You're having a hard time You're you're angry. Whatever you should just go for a run Just go run. You just keep on running till it's out. It's out of your system Like that's that I never see that on an infomercial on TV, you know Andrea: you You you have the weird people laughing and smiling while they're reading off the side effects. You might kill yourself. You have diarrhea, we'll have diarrhea. And it's like, no one keeps dancing around and letting have this stuff going on. yeah, it's, it's such a amazing modality and a part of our health that should be recognized and should be normalized. It should be talked about, not brushed under the rug or, ⁓ that's just for quacks. Quacks talk about this. You know, it's no, it's real. Tre: That's never a thing. Yeah. Andrea: your emotions matter, they impact your life, how they impact your children, how you respond to life can be impacted. And I think it's just important that people start looking into that. There's another great book called The Body Keeps Score. That goes into like the same things. ⁓ Hayes, Little Blue Pocketbook, it has like all the different, you know, ailments of the body and body systems. And it talks about what they're related to and the negative. And it shows you a positive affirmation to say, or to start focusing on to help correct that imbalance. Like, believe one of the things in the reproductive system was hating being a woman. If you were having like issues with your period and et cetera, that was like a negative energy towards yourself or a, you know, a thought pattern. And it showed like how to go about focusing on a positive thing and how to change that part of your mindset. You know, the spine holds a lot of emotions. So your whole entire spine or, you know, the gallbladder again, if you're having gallbladder imbalances, you can start having pain back between by your shoulder blades. And it's just like, there's just so many things that are impacting the physical. And some people, know, they go get back surgeries and all these things. I doubt a lot of them considered the emotional impact before they decided to go, you know. cut out parts of their back or get them fused or rods put in and stuff. this is another

option, something to explore before you make drastic decisions. Tre: Well, and I think it also needs to be normalized and be okay to about this stuff because that's especially ⁓ men. you know, not men aren't talking their emotions with other men or what they're going through or what they ⁓ Andrea: I mean, some are, but yeah, not commonly everybody. Tre: It's it's it's just not common and as a matter of fact, I think it's the exact opposite. It's looked down on to even have emotions or have certain emotions. I mean, gosh, it's it's been ⁓ like a badge of honor for me. ⁓ I never cry. You'll never see me cry. I'll I'll cry at my mom's funeral. And that's it. Like it's it's a macho thing to not express. certain emotions because it's looked at it's Think it's on a societal level. It's ⁓ at as weakness. It's looked at as a bad thing and Andrea: Yeah, well, strong people cry. And I'm not saying that you go around breaking out and crying over and you got stuck at a red light. Okay, we're not talking about that kind of behavior. Like we're not talking about you being a headcase talking about Yeah, good to cry is good to feel show emotion. It doesn't it's not weakness. Tre: Yeah. Right. Right. Well, in the end, even in a beauty and crying doesn't just mean something sad, crying at how about how beautiful something is and having just being in tune with yourself and being able to express that through tears of joy, beauty, and if needed, sorrow and sadness as well, you know, Some people literally have to teach themselves how to cry again because they never were allowed to. And that's a nervous system thing where, weren't allowed to cry. So you have to, ⁓ no, it's OK. I can cry now. And that could be something as simple as something in a movie that moves you, something that's a super emotional thing that ⁓ Andrea: Yeah, you don't have to go back and try to relive your trauma so you cry. telling you to that. That can reinforce trapped emotions. Tre: Right, no, no, but that's that could that could be something as simple as something in a movie that resonates with you that stirs something in you to go. ⁓ no, I can cry at this. It's I can cry at a movie like that's another thing that's looked down on with men. you cry at movies and men will make fun of women for crying at movies. we go. That's that's there's nothing wrong with crying at something that's sad ⁓ beautiful or something in a movie as well and that's a really easy way to help train yourself to be more in tune with you and be able to do that again because that's such a normal thing that's just nixed in society. I can't cry or I can't express that. Andrea: And in a flip coin here too, like, you know, people have experienced trauma and are going through things. You also don't have to take on every emotion you feel and every situation that isn't yours. Like 90 seconds, an emotional experience can last 90 seconds. So if you're in something where you're like, let's just say your kids are being crazy and running around and you're like, man, All of a sudden I feel really angry. You can feel it or you can go, is this worth being angry over? Let me breathe a minute and just decide if I need to take this on or can I reroute this into, okay, they're kids. I'm going to address this from a calm place. And that actually helps you not track emotions because if you're so angry and you're like getting into an unhealthy thing where let's just say someone says something on the internet, that's absolutely not okay and rude or malicious. and you sit there and you kind of just go on about it for a day and you're just reinforcing this negative experience where you got angry or sad or you're not in between or maybe you wanted to act that way back. You're reinforcing now and you're ended up trapping an emotion. You're going to trap anger or malice or one of these emotions and it's going to impact your body. So letting go of stuff. I liked something that Will Smith said on that show, Pull to Pull, that he did the documentary where said, it's not going to bother you on your deathbed, you should let it go. And when you sit there and think that way, you're like, yeah, the idiot comedy on my post, I'm not going to be thinking about when I'm or if I'm in a dangerous situation. Tre: person you don't even know posted something that doesn't exactly line with your belief system so you have to jump down their throat and it's World War III over a post. mean, you, if you... ⁓ Andrea: Or I mean, or you can be able to jump on a post and say what you mean, speak your truth and not attached to it and not go around like talking about some toxic exchange online for two days like it's a gold medal. Like let it go. Tre: Or doesn't have to ruin your day because somebody said something. mean, that's if you apply what Will Smith said in that documentary that that shows how much of ⁓ stuff ⁓ ⁓ us to ⁓ stressed out be affected by the things going on in our lives ⁓ because in moment it feels Andrea: Yeah. Tre: big and I think everybody, is an expert in making a mountain out of a molehill. It's learning recognize it as a molehill. ⁓ Andrea: Mm-hmm. Well, it even goes back to the whole idea that energy can't be destroyed. just changes. So let's just say when it comes to trapped emotions and you feel that energy rising, you can transform it. can decide what life is choices. Like yesterday, we had a meteor go over this area. And if it didn't break off in the atmosphere, I don't think they'd be here talking right now. So you can either go, ⁓ my God, and then they start getting into fear. You can go, ⁓ that's great. That didn't happen. get another day. And it just shows how much your life is fragile. Your existence is fragile. And if you can start seeing through the lens of that, it also helps you not trap emotions because you're not going to sit here, wringing your hands like I could be sitting here. Let's wring our hands now forever. Another meteor could hit us at any point like, and thinking

that way. Or even right now with the nuclear threats and all the war and the things going on. If you live your life just thinking about what could happen, you don't get to live. And that goes back to the emotional state of the body. That goes back to our health. If we're anxious, it's because we're thinking about something that hasn't happened or the possibility of it happening or an experience we went through. Let's just say you were abandoned. Let's just say your spouse died. ⁓ The people you cared about never really cared about you or abandoned you or left you walked away when you needed them most Then you're with someone new and you're sitting there in your good relationship going not gonna leave right? And yours is tracking. or you're reacting with something goes wrong to where you can't have a normal conversation because you're stuck in that mode You're anxious, right? So these things all impact us impact whether or not we trap emotions whether or not we pass it to our children Anyone that's a mother can speak to this if you're walking around anxious and stressed your children know right away They don't know what's going on, but they'll start reacting like my one son Xander is like there's something tense going on He starts getting tense. He's like, I don't know what's going on, but I'm gonna feed off of my mom's mom feels Children feel animals do the same thing Tre: you Well, and that's a that's a big thing with the mother-son father-daughter dynamic with that because I know are if if I'm if I'm having a Stressful moment whether it be at work or something here. She's having a hard time regulating her emotions She feels that and she she'll go on that, you know, dear your children Yeah, yeah, she'll just be Andrea: You asked me for 20 hugs, 20 hugs. I need a hug. And then she's fine. It's like, she'll come out to be crying, having this big meltdown. Xander said something that she didn't like. She's almost three. And she just comes up, gets a hug from you. And all of a sudden it's just like a switch. Oh, okay. I'm to go do it again. I'll be back in 10 minutes. Her hug. But the alternative there, instead of being able to give her a hug and be there for you, you have yelled at her and tell her she can't have her feelings. Tre: For the next thing it's it's just crazy Andrea: It forces you in how you teach your children and how you let them express emotion. Tre: Or... Right, or try to give logic to something like, shouldn't be upset about this, or this is menial, or this is stupid, and be ⁓ invalidating with ⁓ it. crazy to me how so much human suffering is off ⁓ stuff that hasn't happened. So many people are racking their brains out of fear even trapping emotions off of stuff that they think might happen or is in the future or their could be an outcome or a probable outcome and how much that our decision making, our emotional state ⁓ if going into ⁓ going into a situation or work or a conversation with a loved one or spouse or something and we have in our mind that oh well this could happen or that could happen they might say this they might react this way like how much suffering is of our own creation how many emotion how's our our emotional state all because of something that we've come up with in our head and then fear anxiety becomes the compass that we're navigating life from. And it becomes a land mine. Every day becomes avoiding land mines of ⁓ own imagination, own creation. And how emotions, how ⁓ are we within the body? ⁓ What could be passed down generationally from that mindset of living again that compounding if if cycle is not broken to where a child then is navigating life through that same mindset ⁓ and passing that down ⁓ and so many different layers ⁓ of it becomes very easy see how ⁓ you could to a point where somebody has ⁓ Awareness or no ability to navigate life a healthy way ⁓ experience peace happiness Fulfillment purpose because life is is just unsafe there's no point I it becomes survival your nervous system is always on I'm just trying to survive till the next day and not get hurt and be okay instead of thriving. And I think that's... Andrea: Mm-hmm. Tre: where people need get and where people need to start having that awareness is ⁓ actually can to thrive. And you capable of thriving regardless you might feeling in the moment. ⁓ And that is a learned thing and something have work Andrea: Well, and as a practitioner I offer these kind of paths forward to find what you need to release and what is going on with your health. So if you don't know where to start, I am here and people can reach out to me. But it's definitely a big importance of health and maybe we can do another episode on like the TCM version of what they're connected to and stuff because that would be I think fun for people because not everybody likes to read those in loads of books like I do. Tre: I'm spoiled because I get to sit next to her in the morning or at night over a tea or something and all the books that she gets to read. just get to ask her questions and stuff because don't read as much you, but yeah, think people would definitely benefit from another episode on that side of it. well. Everybody will be linking the some of the studies we talked about on this stuff ⁓ and some books. There'll be a bunch of stuff in the description and resources that people can go to and look at what we've been talking about. But if you guys enjoyed this episode, please make sure to like comment and ⁓ subscribe and will see you guys on the next one. Andrea: and some of the books and some videos. I got a couple things. Thanks everybody.