התמלול המלא של Intuition: A Deeper Dive | Dr. Michelle Marin

good start to the discussion of intuition. 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:16.400 I felt like there was a little bit further down to go along the road to truly understanding what it is, because I agree with Dr. 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:36.719 Garvey that there is a lot of unconscious information that we're taking in and about a person that's just by looking at them and, you know, maybe other things we have had experienced with, let's say it's other patients or other people we're meeting for the first time that have similarities to someone else in the past. 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:47.919 But there is a deeper unconscious level that I felt like wasn't touched or discussed that deserves some attention. 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:49.759 Okay. 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:58.639 And so uh if we go further, uh can you give us a breakdown of what you think intuition is? 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:01.360 Uh where you said that this is a really good beginning. 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:03.919 So what else is is there more to intuition? 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:05.680 What is intuition and your understanding? 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:30.319 For me, intuition is this uh knowing that comes through and of different information about people, situations, different things that are not only maybe from the environment around you, but from a whole unknowing that we just really have very little understanding about. 00:03:30.719 --> 00:04:06.000 But many people try to seek that understanding with different facets, whether it be through um energy work and just kind of understanding how different energies maybe come into play and give off information, whether it is mediumship where you may have past loved ones or someone provide you with information that then will lead you to nudge to do something, whether it's um just a general, just it is like we can go into the clairs, like you just like a drop-in and knowing that that information comes to you. 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:17.439 I do believe there is some space for that within intuition, along with the unconscious bias that um had already been discussed. 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:19.839 When you say clairs, what did you mean by that? 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:20.480 Sure. 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:26.800 Yeah, so there, um, and you can help me with this because I'm not sure if I'm gonna remember all of them. 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:39.360 Um, but within kind of picking up on psychic energy, there are different clairs or different ways using the different senses in order to kind of pick up psychic energy. 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:46.160 So uh the one everyone's most familiar with is clairvoyant, which is clear seeing. 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:49.600 So it's like you can see in a picture almost. 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:56.399 Some people can see certain situations or stuff of what's going on and use that as knowledge of some sort. 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:04.639 Then there's um clairsentient, is where you kind of you have this feeling of something to that's coming. 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:19.120 Um, and there's also there's other various kinds of ones that um, you know, I don't remember at the top of my head, but event day like clairugustus, I think is one where like you could kind of like taste certain things that have happened. 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:31.759 And there's one that the clear that's involving smell, um and also clear tangent, where you can, which I've seen a lot of people use, where you touch an object and then that gives you a lot of information. 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:36.720 So those are different clairs that I'm referring to. 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:39.680 The the one that you're talking about, touching an object. 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:40.959 Um, do you remember? 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:46.319 I think you and I, but separately, went to uh Brian Weiss's workshop in New York. 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:59.519 And Brian Weiss is a psychiatrist who does a lot of uh past life regressions uh after and wrote some very famous books, um, like Many Lives, Many Masters, um, and many other ones. 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:06.639 But um, I remember I went to this workshop and I uh was sitting next to people I had no idea about. 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:18.480 I went to it myself, and um I uh he gave us a prompt basically like, hey, let's just meditate for a bit, as but exchange objects with the person next to you, and she gave me a bracelet. 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:27.040 And um I was sitting there and I was meditating and I was holding it, and then like whatever came into my mind, I basically told her afterwards. 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:39.040 And so basically what I told her is like I see this woman walking on the beach, and she has this beautiful hair and she's dressed in all white, uh, which is making me wonder if she's deceased, but she had this like gorgeous, gorgeous hair. 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:41.519 And I don't remember exactly what else I told her. 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:55.199 And then after I told her this, she said basically, like, oh my God, like this bracelet was given to me by my beloved aunt, and she lived in Puerto Rico or something like that, or like somewhere like near like a very beautiful beach island. 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:58.720 And um, and she uh gave me this bracelet. 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:03.839 She's deceased, and um, she like the beach was like her favorite place or something like that. 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:05.839 Or I don't and there were some other details. 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:13.519 This was like honestly a long time ago, so I don't remember all the details, but I was like, oh, I mean, I am definitely not a psychic. 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:25.439 I am not even close to it, but it feels like maybe everyone has that ability to tap into these certain things if we attune to trying to figure this out somehow. 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:27.360 And I don't even know how my body did it. 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:36.319 But and it could be said, like, oh, this is pure coincidence, but other

people spoke up in this large audience, and some of them were like really even more accurate than me. 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:39.680 Like some things were tapped into that was just extraordinary. 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:42.560 Um, and I don't really know how to explain that. 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:44.800 Yeah, I mean, I agree. 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:48.319 And like I also, it was like, I remember it was in 2011. 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:50.399 It was like that was years ago at this point. 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:51.199 And what is that? 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:52.240 Oh, wow. 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:55.920 That's about 15 years ago that we my grandfather died, so I couldn't go. 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:57.439 So I gave him the ticket. 00:07:57.759 --> 00:07:58.720 Exactly. 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:10.000 So I had the same situation, and it was like she handed me, I believe it was her keychain, and um I was able to pick up on information. 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:25.600 Like I saw like a beautiful road and I heard a motorcycle, and then all of a sudden I saw um a hospital bed elevated 30 degrees, and just so I just like kind of said what I saw, and like she just started crying profusely. 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:27.519 And I was just like, oh, okay. 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:31.360 And I tapped into something, and similar to you, it was the same thing. 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:46.639 Like, I was just like, I never really thought of myself as having this ability at this point, and just hearing my like myself being able to send all these other people, it kind of makes you just um, you know, wonder like about that. 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:58.559 Like there to me, like to bring it even a little further back, you know, it's just like there is this intangible connection between all of us. 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:03.440 And I feel like that is what that kind of represents. 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:12.240 And I think that is kind of the foundation of intuition is just no matter what, no matter, you know, we're our own bodies. 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:15.120 I'm down in Florida, you're in Pennsylvania. 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:18.080 Like we're we're connected, we're all connected. 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.639 And like I get these, sometimes I get these like moments in my mind. 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:25.679 I'm like, let me just check in with Ina or something, and then you'll tell me, like, oh, this is going on, da da da da. 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:28.320 And I'm like, oh shit, she's got a lot going on, you know. 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:38.159 Like, um, so I think, and I, you know, it's happened with other people with uh, you know, that I'm close with, or you know, people that are just in like outer circles of mine that I think of them and something's happened. 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:43.919 So I just feel like there's this underlying, just like blanket connection. 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:53.600 Like no matter what, we can never get away from each other, meaning that, you know, like we're always, even if we feel like we're separate, we try to be in silos, but we're always connected. 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:57.200 And I think that's where that ability kind of stems from. 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:00.000 And how the question is, how do you tap into it? 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:00.879 Yeah. 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:19.440 I mean, even if we don't even go into more like a psychic connection or use different words, like I guess so I I finished um presenting on intuition to um for grand rounds to uh psychiatry residents this past Friday, and I did a lot of research for it. 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:30.080 And so what I ended up doing is I ended up breaking intuition into two kinds, local intuition and non-local intuition, where local intuition is intuition related to the things you're picking up from the environment. 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:31.840 So anything that is close to you. 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:40.480 But even there, when you're talking about the local intuition, rapid uh processing is not even always true for that. 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:44.080 Because, for example, like I do a lot of psychotherapy. 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:52.240 And so when I sit in the room, I don't know if I ever if I tell you about this as much, but I get almost like these images that sometimes come into my mind. 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:53.519 I may have told you about this. 00:10:53.679 --> 00:11:01.120 Um, I I get these images that go into my mind when I'm when the patient is talking at times, and they're almost like a representation of what they're saying. 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.679 It almost like plays out in like this this analogy image form. 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:20.559 And um, for whatever reason, like whenever I I think about it, somehow it is related very importantly, and it creates like this um almost like a psychic connection between me and the patient. 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:27.200 And so sometimes I tap into things and I know things immediately what they're about to say, or like I intuit where they're going. 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:36.960 And so there are signs saying that it's not like just me reading the room, but it's also us aligning in like waveform, like our bodies align, our brain waves align. 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.600 Okay, so if our brain waves align, that's perfectly fine. 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.840 But that how does that turn into sharing of information? 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:46.399 How does that relate to like a psychic connection? 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:53.840 And I don't know, like they have the scientific proof saying, like, okay, you and I are sitting here together, you and I are bonding, we're very close. 00:11:54.080 --> 00:12:01.360 Our brain waves are aligning, our heart rates may be aligning, our skin like conductance may be aligning. 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:09.840 But how does that also then turn into you feeling or intuiting or like sharing images or sharing dreams, even sometimes? 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:35.600 Like I

a lot of like therapists share dreams together, or they like there there is a level of connection that is really truly there that's measurable in physical capacity, but we still don't really know how that translates into, okay, like just because our brains are we're all aligned, how does that trait translate into you knowing things about me that I never told you? 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:40.159 Um does that but does that have to go back to the maybe quantum entanglement? 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:42.480 Well, I guess that's the question, yes. 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:50.639 Does that go back to quantum entanglement where particles are like once they're uh entangled or they're connected, they'll they're never disconnected. 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.399 And so whatever happens to one at a distance will happen to another. 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:56.879 Um and I guess, yeah, that is the question. 00:12:57.039 --> 00:12:57.919 Is there something there? 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:13.200 But but there is something there, like scientifically, like people are like, oh, psychics are are woo, and like all of this intuition that's past rapid um awareness and processing information is like not real, but it is real. 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:14.480 Like it's very real. 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:17.679 We're measuring it, we're just not sure how it's happening yet. 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:18.240 Right. 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.320 Um and that's that's where it's really cool. 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:23.679 I agree. 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:24.399 I agree. 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:31.679 And I'm sure like if we were to look it up, there are active studies going on, just kind of looking at, you know, this. 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:37.840 I mean, did you come across any like um studies that are happening right now that maybe the data isn't published? 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:49.840 But right now, but there is data being published about like um uh there is there was a study about actually how possibly we can be tapping into it is like reading the future, essentially. 00:13:50.000 --> 00:14:05.120 And so there were there were many studies where um a person is sitting in front of a a random uh computer generator where it generates particular pictures and then it they're measuring the person's reaction to these pictures. 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:12.399 And so, like if it's like a very um upsetting image or upsetting thing, like the body reacts. 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:20.799 And um, what they found is that because it's a random generator, the computer doesn't even know what it's about to give out. 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.960 So there no one knows until the last moment what it's gonna put out. 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:33.120 But they found that the body starts reacting one to ten seconds, depending, and there were multiple studies in different labs, and so there was like a meta-analysis done on this. 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:43.840 And so they what they found is that there was um a one to ten second reaction in like skin conductance or heart rate variability before the random generator actually put out a picture. 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:48.159 Um, and so that's really like crazy. 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.799 It's like, what how the hell are we doing this? 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:56.399 Like there is almost like a um a future like prediction of what's about to happen. 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:59.840 And we're there is no way that we're reading the room. 00:14:59.919 --> 00:15:02.159 Like we're we can't read the room with this. 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:04.720 Um, and we're still reacting somehow. 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:06.080 Our bodies are reacting. 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:07.440 So that's one of them. 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:08.080 Yeah. 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:10.159 Well, you know, it's so interesting you say that. 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:17.039 And I'm just, you know, thinking about um, you know, this is probably I'm a little bit outside of my area. 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.399 I am definitely going to be outside my area of expertise. 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.879 And I'm sure my physics teacher from Villain will be like, uh, Michelle's talking about what? 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:27.519 Um, but or be very proud of you. 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:28.879 Or uh we'll see. 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:29.519 I don't know. 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:56.879 Anyways, but um, you know, it just, you know, it's thinking about time in general when you say that about how our bodies already are reacting to something that may not even be pulled up on the screen, it just makes you think about the concept of time and just maybe if that, you know, there it I've heard people say that time moves in different kinds of moves differently for different people. 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:03.279 So, you know, I mean, you could say, yeah, if the people are in Australia, they're in the future, we're you know, in their past, that kind of thing. 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:09.759 But even I've heard like relatively speaking between people and stuff, which is like I said, this is beyond my area of expertise. 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:23.519 But I wonder if, you know, within quantum physics, this is something that is like being looked at as maybe that something there, which as I said, is beyond my level of expertise. 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:24.960 You're absolutely onto something. 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:28.960 And I talked about this very briefly in my in my my grand rounds too. 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:40.399 Uh it's called the block universe hypothesis, basically related to the theory of relativity, where you have a block of time and you can slice it. 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:48.559 And uh what we perceive as like now is just a particular frame of this bigger block that already exists. 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:51.200 So sort of like a film reel. 00:16:51.360 --> 00:17:02.320 For those of you who are much younger, you may not know exactly what a film reel is, but it's basically like a literal tape that is

that is wound on a reel and you watch it. 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:11.039 And so it all exists in your life and you're what you consider now is just like where you are in watching this particular reel, like in the play session. 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:16.480 And so you can like you can pause it, you can go back, you can go front, but like it already exists. 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:23.440 And that makes sense within theory of relativity because we're at now, kind of you and I relatively experiencing similar time. 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:32.079 But if someone is outside in space, their now, like current now, is very different in their time frame than where you're experiencing is now. 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:37.599 And so there are two nows that are coexisting at different times already. 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:38.480 And that's true. 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:41.759 Like that is like they have tested the theory of relativity already. 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:53.519 Even like they they sent a plane um above um the atmosphere and they measured how time is according, like in the more of the atmosphere area close to and then versus close to the ground. 00:17:53.599 --> 00:18:03.440 And even there, there was like difference in time, like very, very small difference, but enough for them to say, like, oh, there's something to this that must be very real. 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:12.480 So yeah, what we consider time now is what Einstein basically thought is just a fourth dimension of space and time. 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:19.119 And it's it's kind of it's not the same everywhere. 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:30.480 So, yes, it totally makes sense that we could possibly tap into the future because there is no future, it already happened, and we're just kind of tapping into whatever is out there somehow. 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:31.279 But how? 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:33.519 I'm not sure when we don't know that yet. 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:34.559 We just don't know. 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:43.359 There's no real good scientific basis to truly or or we, you know, we're yeah, there isn't none that that's published data, right? 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:48.799 That you know, you did all you did a lot of this research that that's out there to kind of show that. 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.079 But you know, it's so interesting going back to Brian Weiss. 00:18:52.160 --> 00:19:06.799 Um, I uh there was a book that he wrote that with his uh regression sessions, that there were um patients that were tapping into the future, their future lives. 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:07.359 Yes. 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:15.920 And it just kind of goes along with that, that then after like kind of the work that he did, there was shifts there as well, you know? 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:28.480 So it kind of ties it all back into what you're saying that it's what the what we perceive as the future is something that's already occurred, which is wild to think about. 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:45.519 But also, I mean, it makes

you also wonder like people, like when we think about, and this I'm gonna go into sci-fi here a bit, like when people talk about travel in time, like they go about, like, oh, if we're gonna travel in time, we must not change anything, otherwise, we're gonna change the past and we're gonna somehow into here. 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:50.240 Covers Potter. 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:53.119 The which one is it? 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:56.799 Not the yeah, the prisoner of Azkaban, like same thing. 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:04.880 Yeah, they were very careful about when going into well, they were traveled into the past, yes, to not change anything for the for the future. 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:05.599 There we go. 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:16.880 Yes, so um I think that it also would be then if the future and the past and the present are all coexisting, then they can all impact each other at the same time. 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:24.960 So, yes, you can change things in the past and it'll impact the present, which will impact the future, which will impact the past, like all of it, which is like yeah, I know. 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:26.559 Like, what am I saying? 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:27.920 I don't even know. 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:31.200 But it is kind of crazy there. 00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:32.480 Yeah, it is. 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:44.319 It really is, you know, like I just it's just thinking about time and just, you know, like the different theor, you know, the different theories and stuff like that in the concept of past lives. 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:52.720 Like, I've, you know, I've read that some people think like it's all happening at the same time, all of it. 00:20:52.960 --> 00:21:00.720 We're just like, you know, it's all, we're just our awareness is so limited that we don't realize it. 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:34.319 And like, you know, this is a little, this may seem a little out there, but like it going back, it's just it's all every action that we have kind of influences everything else going on around us, you know, like um with whether it's in the past or the future, like you're saying, like bringing it together, it's just crazy and it does sound very sci-fi, but I do wonder if within the next, maybe I don't think in our children's lifetime, but maybe like three or four generations from now, maybe they'll be able to have more of these answers. 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:45.519 I feel like we could be in the direction of maybe being a little bit have a little bit more of an understanding of that, but I think we're moving in that direction. 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:47.680 Cause Yeah, I agree. 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:59.440 I mean, even in quantum physics, there is such an idea of multiverse um where um it's an alternative theory to um the collapse of particles. 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:06.480 So the The idea is that like the Schrdinger's cat is that there is a superposition of two states at once. 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:17.599 Like a cat is in a box and they um have

like this radioactive decay there, and you're not sure if the cat has died or is still living because of this radioactive decay. 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:28.000 And um, and so until you open the box and you observe it, the cat is both alive and dead in its superposition state because you're not sure what's happening there. 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:34.319 So you need an observer to collapse the um to collapse the two possibilities into one. 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:48.400 And so that's one of the things in in quantum mechanics is that uh things exist, like you cannot know its uh location and its um, what is it, location and momentum at the same time? 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:58.880 Um anyway, so um, but the multiverse hypothesis is that um you don't necessarily collapse anything. 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:07.200 It's just every time there is any kind of choice or any kind of difference, it just goes off into a different, into your different universe. 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:14.160 Like, and so now you have these two parallel universes, which are infinite because there's so many choices everyone makes at all times. 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:14.640 Right. 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:17.759 Um, and then it just becomes what I don't understand. 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:22.319 And then I I lose I lose focus there because even imagining it is mind-blowing. 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:22.880 Right. 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:25.359 You know, you think of what was that movie? 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:31.200 Um the one that recently came out, won a bunch of Oscars, uh, the the what was it? 00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:35.920 Um the the where the woman had hot dog fingers in one universe. 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.160 Oh, oh gosh, that was an amazing one. 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:41.599 But it's everything everywhere all at once or something like that. 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:43.680 Yes, like that's that concept. 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:46.319 Yeah, and everything everywhere all at once. 00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:48.640 It was a fantastic film in 2022. 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:49.440 It came out, yeah. 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:50.640 Yes, yes. 00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:56.559 So that it basically describes what you're talking about right there, you know, just to kind of tie it all together. 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:57.599 Like that really does. 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:03.039 And I mean, obviously, I mean, I live with um a very big Marvel fan. 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.039 So let's not let's just give a head nod to the Marvel multiverse too. 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:13.119 Okay, you know, like that's another multiverse that's out there with the many different types of Spider-Mans and stuff. 00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:16.880 So um, you know, it's something that's been explored in sci-fi. 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:23.200 And it's wild to think that the possibility that that is a reality we live in. 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:24.079 But is it? 00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:43.839 I mean, if you look at science fiction that has been written like over 100 years ago, like Jules Verne fiction, for example, all his fiction is like not even that exciting anymore because it has become so true, like traveling to the moon and going in the submarine and like all the stuff that he wrote about that was like unheard of now turns into the reality. 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:44.799 So I don't know. 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:54.480 I mean, I have a feeling that maybe in a hundred years they'll be reading Asimov and Ray Bradbury and be like, pfft, amateurs, like we're living this now. 00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:57.039 Yeah, I I definitely see that too. 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.160 I could see that happening with the way things are moving and stuff. 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.359 So for sure that's a possibility. 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:04.240 For sure. 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:08.079 So we covered intuition that's somewhat local. 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:17.279 Like we talked about, okay, you and I are sitting here and we're vibing, and like I can I can intuit things, or maybe like I'm intuiting things from a bracelet because I don't know, of whatever energy it left. 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:18.720 And so maybe I'm reading it somehow. 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:19.359 Who knows? 00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:24.480 Like, so um let's talk about non-local intuition. 00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:30.799 That's the intuition that is that is when you experience when someone is really far away, or when something is far away. 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:44.000 Like we're like, I would say precognition about like precognitive dreams, like uh dreams that uh tell the future, or people like when you think of me and then you call me or you message me, and then you're like, hey, what's going on? 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:48.640 And I'm like, oh, I'm not doing well, or whatever it is, like sensing something is happening to someone else. 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:54.640 So we've talked about how it could be potentially um quantum entanglement. 00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:58.960 Um do you have other theories about how this all could be? 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:07.839 You know, I the only concrete and um scientifically proven one I have is quantum entanglement. 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:16.240 And the only other real explanations I have for it are based more in what many would perceive as woo-woo. 00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:28.240 Um, you know, it's it's just like it's sometimes I just feel like there's, you know, just little nudges that you get that. 00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:37.920 I mean, maybe yes, it could be quantum entanglement, but I mean, I'll give an example of something that cannot really be explained by science that happened for me. 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:51.680 That was of something that I was able to help with from a distance is um my grandfather was very sick, and I had literally probably a half hour prior gotten off the phone with my grandmother. 00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:54.000 Everything's great, all good, everything's good. 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:54.559

Uh-huh. 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:55.920 Yes, yes, talk to you soon. 00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:57.119 Love you bye. 00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:13.519 And I'm doing my dishes, and all of a sudden I get this sense within me that my my maternal great-grandfather, my grandfather's father, who has been deceased since 2003, is like running towards me and trying to like get my attention. 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:14.559 And I'm like, what? 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:16.880 This is strange as I'm washing dishes. 00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:20.799 And I'm like, something in me all of a sudden just says, I have to call and see what's going on. 00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:22.720 My grandfather, something's not right. 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:25.839 And when I did, it in fact wasn't. 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:36.000 My grandmother was trying to get him in the car to drive him to my hospital where I worked in order to get him evaluated because he just stopped walking altogether. 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.000 So I can't explain that. 00:27:38.160 --> 00:28:05.440 I can't, you know, physics cannot really, I don't think, can explain why how my great-grandfather, who's been deceased for at that point almost 19 years, is able to somehow relay a message to me that I need to call my, call my family and see what's going on, because there obviously is something that's going on that requires my assistance, you know, and that's not good. 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:07.359 I can't explain that, you know. 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:20.160 I mean, could you use the theory of quantum entanglement and and also kind of complain um like combine how matter is never created or destroyed, it just changes changes forms? 00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:34.319 Can you just take those two and maybe use that in order to kind of explain how, you know, like mediumship and like kind of this connection with spirit and everything, I don't know. 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:39.039 That's kind of the basis of what I use in order to try to understand it. 00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:44.480 But I mean, like, there's definitely something there that I can't use to explain that. 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:51.680 But I know that I'm not crazy and I know a message was sent to me and I know I received it and I acted on it, and it was a good thing I did. 00:28:52.400 --> 00:29:00.079 Yeah, I mean, I think what you're what you're saying essentially is we just do just do not have enough science to explain our experiences. 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.839 And just because we don't, doesn't mean they're not happening, they're very real. 00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:21.519 Um, what made me think about as you're talking about this is um kind of how we define consciousness and who we are, which will uh I mean, I really like it's gonna take a while to talk about this, honestly, but and I don't think we'll be able to in this in this episode. 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:30.559 Um but consciousness is what we perceive as experiencing the world, so who we are. 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:41.519

Like, and then it goes into whether our consciousness is just a biological product of our brain, or is our consciousness something that exists beyond our bodies? 00:29:41.759 --> 00:30:16.079 And I'm in the um I'm in the camp of that our consciousness is something bigger than our just biological bodies, and our consciousness um exists outside of it, which has been talked about a lot when it comes to out-of-body experiences or people who are have near death experiences where um they die and then they watch like they they're clinically dead for a period of time and they watch things happening, like on the side of like in the corner of a room, hanging over there, or watching things that are happening outside of the room, even. 00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:23.440 And so that makes you wonder if consciousness is truly outside of one's body as well as inside the body. 00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:39.119 And so that brings into question okay, so maybe, just maybe, there is some kind of like rapid con like rapid response to whatever information you're receiving, but not in a way we think. 00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:54.160 Like maybe it's not our brain receiving the information, but our consciousness receiving, because our consciousness outside of our bodies may be able to see things and experience things in a much broader way, like maybe miles and miles away. 00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:54.799 How? 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:55.599 I don't know. 00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:58.480 I mean, this is I'm I'm just really like guessing here. 00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:02.960 And so our consciousness is inside our bodies and somehow like funneled in. 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:12.480 Like if I if I'm thinking about like we're like the maybe the the the lower point of the funnel, but it comes out maybe outside of our bodies and stretches out for miles away. 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:21.119 And so somehow your grandfather is part of the your consciousness awareness, and so it brings it to you through the funnel and you know what's happening. 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:22.799 Did that make sense? 00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:23.759 It does. 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:24.880 It does, yeah. 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:26.319 I yeah, and I agree. 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:34.960 I'm I'm definitely of that same camp that it's just like there's there's more to us than what's here, like this physical body, you know. 00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:45.359 Um, so I do think there's a way that because it is ex it's its consciousness is expanded, and I think you can bring in the quantum entanglement theory there. 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:51.519 The fact that, you know, we are not just here, we're kind of everywhere. 00:31:51.680 --> 00:32:06.720 Um, we can pick up information that is seems unintangible to us and seems uh thousands of miles away, or I don't even know, like uh just for just say it to say it, like dimensions that we can't perceive. 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:08.480 It's totally possible. 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:22.720 And I think, you know, if you look about even just going back to how we've developed over time, I've been recently thinking about this a lot, um, and how we're able to pick up things from the environment. 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:34.400 Let's start with like when Marconi invented the radio, like that was never a concept in anyone's mind that we would be able to pick up these different radio stations and like, you know, all that. 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:36.640 This was amazing, you know, we did that. 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:42.000 And we're able to travel with different station songs, all these different things. 00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:49.039 And then we developed the television, which is kind of, you know, uh, now we're able to get picture images in our house all over the country. 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:59.599 And then you got the internet, and we just keep again getting larger and larger scale of ways to communicate that don't involve being directly with one another. 00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:08.960 And I think there is something similar when we pick up different things that are maybe what we we can describe as our outer consciousness. 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:20.480 We pick up these signals, and you know, sometimes they're a little bit more static-y than others, you know, but we pick it up in the same way that you can tune in and pick up a radio station or something like that. 00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:36.640 And I think soon, like we were able to kind of figure all that out throughout the past, I don't know, 100 plus years, you know, we'll be able to kind of maybe understand that a little bit better since there's been a little bit more of a focus on it scientifically. 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:46.160 I mean, it's come to a point where the CIA has been using people to spy, remote spy at Project Stargate. 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:46.640 Yeah. 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:52.240 Um, I actually just took a remote viewing workshop, um, which was really interesting. 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.240 I talked to you about it briefly. 00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:57.680 Um, and I was like, well, that just sounds really out there. 00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:05.200 And for those of you who don't know, remote viewing is um essentially being able to pick up on information that is not near you. 00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.599 You're you're viewing something remotely. 00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.639 Um, and they have different ways of learning how to do this. 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.280 There's like this, there are different schools. 00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:30.559 Um, this the one that I was doing is basically you don't close your eyes, you don't like deprive yourself of any senses, but you uh very quickly like you be you're you're being told, okay, there's a target that you're you need to um you need to view. 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:31.679 It's a picture. 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:42.880 And um then the person who is doing the workshop kind of goes through different uh like questions very quickly to allow for you to

kind of very quickly tap into whatever it is. 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:48.320 And um uh ultimately, like the questions were, what color is it? 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:49.039 What smell? 00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:50.320 Like what do you what do you feel? 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:51.519 What temperature is it? 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:53.599 What does it feel like if you touch it? 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:55.519 Um, what is what do you hear? 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.320 I mean, like a lot of these types of questions. 00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:00.800 And um, it was very surprising. 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.559 Just it a lot of it was also like I wasn't very good at it. 00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:08.400 Like I ultimately, like, I thought I'm viewing one thing and it was like totally different. 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:19.360 But if you they tell us to just put your critical mind aside, your left brain, where it's trying to interpret what it is, just listen to the adjectives, just see like what adjectives come up. 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:23.119 Try not to use the nouns, because the nouns will probably misdirect you. 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:36.559 And once you do the adjectives, I was actually very surprised of how many of these adjectives were correct in a lot of ways that were like very surprisingly correct and very uh precise in some ways. 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:42.239 Um, but uh you need to be doing this consistently and like over a period of time. 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.519 Some people are very talented and can do it very quickly without any practice. 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:47.840 But the idea is that anyone can do it. 00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:49.360 You just need to practice it. 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:59.280 And so that kind of goes into this idea that we all have certain capacities and our brain just doesn't like it, suppresses it. 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:14.960 We have a lot of filtering and suppression that goes in our brain, even when our environment, like immediate environment, we filter and suppress about 90% of signals that are coming in, because otherwise we'll just be super overwhelmed with everything and we wouldn't be able to focus and function from day to day. 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:47.519 So um it's interesting that perhaps if our brains weren't filtering, or if we learn to maybe suppress some of the filtering, we would be able to tap into being able to view things remotely or hear things remotely or tap into someone else how they're doing, which again sounds super sci-fi, but obviously if the CIA was using it and other countries were using it and they were using it successfully, um isn't there something to this? 00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:48.960 I agree. 00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:53.760 You know, like there, it's just something we just don't understand yet. 00:36:53.920 --> 00:37:04.960 And, you know, it's part of our culture that if we don't understand something, we push it aside or say it's BS or woo-woo or whatever it may be. 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:12.239 You know, it's just, you know, if we don't have a firm understanding, so you know, but we're slowly getting there more and more. 00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:18.000 And I think, you know, obviously our government has a firm understanding of it because they're using it. 00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:24.400 And I believe there was a report that was released um that had this classified information. 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:25.440 I read it. 00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:27.679 Yeah, parts of it, not the whole thing, but parts of it. 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:28.559 And I was like, what? 00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:33.840 They even had like the whole like um procedure of how to do this. 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.760 Like it was all written out, and some of it was actually like written in in hand. 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:41.119 I don't think this this project is going on with AI. 00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:44.960 I think they have way better, like more precise ways of getting shit done. 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:51.039 But I mean, by the way, I just noticed you and I are totally synchronizing in the color that we're wearing today. 00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:51.920 Yeah. 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:52.880 Wow. 00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:58.239 And you know what's really funny is that I actually do not wear this sweater often. 00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:02.960 And I was looking through all of my clothes and I was like, hmm, what should I wear? 00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:04.239 And I have different color sweaters. 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.360 I'm like, I'm really drawn to this one today. 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:09.039 That's really funny. 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:10.480 Yeah, I wasn't sure either. 00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:11.360 I was like, what am I? 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:15.840 I was like, also like, oh, maybe I'll wear like a button-down shirt this and then I'm like, no, I'll wear this one. 00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:22.639 So both um Michelle and I are wearing like a burgundy type color shirt, which is really funny. 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:23.360 Yeah. 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:23.920 Yeah. 00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:26.960 Speaking of synchronicities, yes, exactly. 00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:28.079 Exactly. 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:28.719 Yeah. 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:33.760 Well, you know, it's it's very funny because I mean, I'm gonna bring it here. 00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:34.960 I'm gonna bring go there. 00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:36.079 It's like I can't help it. 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:37.360 We've already gone so much. 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:38.800 So I mean everywhere. 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:40.239 What's one more thing? 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:41.599 Let's keep going. 00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:46.800 So just the idea of filtering and everything and being here, it's true. 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:54.159 Like the more, you know, you're kind of grounded and just in the day-to-day, there's a lot that you miss. 00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:54.639 Okay. 00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:59.840 I mean, I know for me, like being a mom, and I'm sure you

being a mom, all these different things are going on. 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.800 I might even miss in front of me my child, like writing on his face or something like that. 00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:05.440 You know what I mean? 00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:10.320 Because I'm so focused on, okay, we got to get to swimming lesson, we got to do this, we got to do that, you know what I mean? 00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:15.360 Um, so that's just like kind of how life is. 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:25.920 And it's just interesting to kind of take the juxtaposition and those who maybe don't have all of the senses like we do or have different capabilities. 00:39:26.079 --> 00:40:01.039 So I'm gonna go to, I'm gonna bridge our way to the telepathy tapes and um talk about how these, you know, children who are labeled as um essentially severely um autistic, like level three autism, um, you know, they have this ability to telepathically communicate with one another and with loved ones, whether it be through dreams or just through um, you know, like just able to pass messages along, like passively there. 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:05.920 Um, and then they, but they do, they lack some the abilities that we do. 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:21.599 They may not be able to speak, they may um need the um a the um the communication devices in order to communicate or need assistance um in order to even do that, not even feel their bodies, you know. 00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:29.679 So it's like it's almost, and for them, it's very easy to just to just telepathically communicate. 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:42.719 And there's so much that they're able to take in from the environment because I feel like they're they're not their their focus is more out of body compared to us being in body. 00:40:43.360 --> 00:41:02.239 So they're a good group to look at as to what's possible telepathically, and I can't wait until that documentary comes out because it's gonna reach so many people to really kind of understand like this kind of link that they are to a world beyond us. 00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:10.800 And and telepathy tapes for those of you for those of you who do not know, it's a podcast and uh it's a two-season podcast so far. 00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:11.840 It's fantastic. 00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:17.119 It's I think it's on top of uh the Apple podcast lists, uh, top five. 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.599 And it's basically what Michelle said. 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:42.159 It's about um, it started off with talking about a group of uh non-speaking autistic kids who were able to uh telepathically communicate with each other, but also read their caretakers' minds and uh be able to tap into um other people's minds um and other people's thoughts. 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:59.199 And um they have like the hill where uh a lot of these uh kids meet basically, like a hangout place for even though they're very far apart, but their minds and their consciousness meets there and hangs out and and chats um and shares information. 00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:09.360 And again, it sounds really out there, but there's actually research being done on this, and um it and there's just tremendous to think about these possibilities. 00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:24.159 Um, so for those of you who haven't listened to telepathy tapes, whether you believe or not believe, I just think it's incredibly interesting to listen to the to the data and make your own decisions about what you're hearing and what you're um what information is being passed down. 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:32.880 But yes, um I think that they also went into not think they did go after exploring the kids with autism. 00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:37.519 They also went into uh telepathy among animals and then plants. 00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:37.920 Yep. 00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:43.119 And so they like, they really went into like the consciousness, understanding consciousness as a whole. 00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:52.880 And the kids with autism who are non-speaking and have telepathy abilities is just like the tip of the iceberg of like, as if that's the tip of the iceberg. 00:42:52.960 --> 00:43:01.280 I mean, that sounds like pretty deep already, but there's just so much more and how much more connection we all have that we don't even realize. 00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:03.039 Absolutely. 00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:05.039 Yes, you know. 00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:19.519 Um so I just I really do think that, you know, I definitely 100% I recommend make your own informed decision of how you feel about it, but give it a try, listen to it. 00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:28.719 Kai Dickerson has made a fantastic podcast, but it really dives deep into this and it shows the evidence that they have so far. 00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:39.599 Yeah, I think they have a website, and so in as they're talking, they also give references to where you can go and see things for yourself, videos, uh research that's been done, like all of the notes basically. 00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:41.519 Because it's a it's a podcast documentary. 00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:43.440 It's done in a documentary style. 00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:44.400 Yeah. 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:46.400 Very, very interesting. 00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:56.800 Um speaking of plants and animals, have you ever had any experiences of having like telepathic type of communication with plants or animals? 00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:58.880 Yeah, so that's a really good question. 00:43:58.960 --> 00:43:59.760 So, yeah, animals. 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.159 And it was very unexpected. 00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:09.679 So I have, you know, just I meditate daily at some time, I do different forms of meditation. 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:13.440 And I also have received Reiki many times. 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.159 I get it probably like twice a year, I would say, on average. 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:26.400 And the last Reiki session I had, um, Robin, who's done, who's amazing and is uh We need to have her come on this podcast. 00:44:26.719 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00:44:27.039 Huh? 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:28.480 I need to have her come on this podcast. 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:28.800 Yes. 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:30.400 Robin needs to be on your podcast. 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.719 She's an absolutely amazing uh master Reiki provider. 00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:40.159 Um, she had led me through this meditation during the session. 00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:46.559 And in the session, out of nowhere, my uncle's adorable little dog pops in. 00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:47.840 He's a Shiba Inu. 00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:54.639 And you, as you know, Shiba Inus are very wise and um adorable, obviously. 00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:55.519 Yes. 00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:57.039 They're amazing. 00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:01.199 And he pops into my meditation and I'm like, oh, okay, you're gonna be with me. 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:04.400 And he just like stays by my side the whole meditation. 00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:08.639 And um, I've had other meditations where he's just there. 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:16.320 And I kind of using referencing kind of what I learned from the telepathy tapes, I was like, let me explore this. 00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:22.000 And I'm I've thought of, okay, well, what would you, is there anything you want to tell me? 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:28.800 And like he showed me like a kind of uh an open space and my children running around with him. 00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.199 I'm like, okay, you want to go to a park and run with the kids? 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:31.679 Got it. 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:33.119 Okay, I'm on it. 00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:36.079 Um, and then like, what would I you have me know? 00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.599 And like he showed me images of my brothers and stuff like that. 00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.000 So I made sure to reach out to them. 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:44.639 So it's just so I've that's the experience I've had. 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:46.880 Could it be my ego? 00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:54.480 And you could be something like where it's a kind of something that's suggestive, but rejection of your mind. 00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:55.760 Yeah, exactly. 00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:58.719 But it's weird that he just came into my Reiki session. 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:04.159 Like that, just like I I wasn't, I had no, I wasn't thinking about him or anything like that. 00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:05.599 And just I see him at my feet. 00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:06.880 I'm like, oh, you're here. 00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:07.440 Okay. 00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:14.000 And I feel like since that Reiki session, and I could be biased, but I just feel like he's a lot closer with me. 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:19.599 And he's just like very, like much more attentive with me every time I go over there and see him and stuff like that. 00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:31.119 So I mean, I don't have any great evidence like I did when I had the situation with my great grandfather helping me, my grandfather, but it's something similar where I do feel like there's something that could be developing there. 00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:39.920 Or I mean it could be, it could definitely still be something that's my, you know, my so my subconscious, but I I think there might be something to it. 00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:45.199 You know, I just haven't, I don't have the really great evidence to support it yet. 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:46.159 How about you? 00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:49.519 Have you had any sort of situations like this that you could speak of? 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:55.920 You know, I kind of wish I had some of the types of uh communication that you had with this Sheba. 00:46:56.400 --> 00:47:05.920 I have two dogs, my cat died last summer, and I don't think I've had connections with them like this, even though I wish I did. 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:25.840 The most prominent one that comes to my mind, and I think I may have talked about this at some point on one of the podcast episodes, is um I was in Mexico and um I was traveling solo and um it was kind of a very transformative trip for me. 00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:32.159 This was in 2015, yeah, spring of 2015. 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:48.960 And I was um visiting one of the Mayan sites, and I had this experience, like it, it I literally like my whole body just became attuned and it was very tingly. 00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:56.239 It was like my my um I don't know, like it felt like all my hair was like standing on end. 00:47:56.400 --> 00:48:00.880 And then I could swear that the trees were communicating with me. 00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:08.320 Like there was this rustle of wind, and like the trees were moving and the the leaves were moving. 00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:14.159 And I felt like I was somehow harmonizing with the trees and with the sound. 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:20.159 It was, it was honestly bizarre and so serene and surreal. 00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:21.760 I didn't, I really didn't know what to make of it. 00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:27.920 It's like you're you're experiencing something, you're like, you're in it, you don't know what to make of it. 00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:32.000 Um, but that's the only thing I could say is like some kind of communication. 00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:33.920 What I got out of it, I have no clue. 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:45.519 Like it wasn't like a message that was sent to me, but it was just like real-time um synchrony, I guess, like of me and the trees and like this buzz. 00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:50.239 And like I, I like the whole tingling of myself and just feeling it. 00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:57.280 And the tingling, it's like the feeling of like where someone is telling you something and it you're just like, oh my God, that feels really true. 00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:03.679 And like you have like this body reaction where um it just resonates somehow, like a resonance. 00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:05.119 That's that's the word I'm looking for. 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:09.920 A resonance between myself and what was going on with the trees. 00:49:10.159

--> 00:49:11.599 I still don't know how to explain it. 00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:15.840 It would hope only happened that time, never happened before, never happened again. 00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:17.440 But that was time. 00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:37.679 I also wonder, like, you know, where you were, was there something about the energy of that site that kind of could have been harmony that like some sort of like allowed some more like kind of frequency vibing between you and the surrounding nature around you, you know? 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:38.159 Totally. 00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:46.639 So this was a Mayan ancient site, but from what I heard, the person who was giving us a tour, he was um a shaman in training as well. 00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:52.960 And he was telling us that the Mayan people still come and do certain ceremonies in this particular place. 00:49:53.199 --> 00:50:04.480 So it is very possible that there was uh some sort of already like an energetic aspect to the place um that heightened it, but it was difficult to leave. 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:05.440 I didn't want to leave. 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.599 And it was almost like a trance. 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:08.320 Mm-hmm. 00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:09.599 Interesting. 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:11.119 That's very interesting. 00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:26.559 I almost wonder like it feels like when I when I hear you say that, it almost feels like the trees were providing you with some sort of healing and restoration, like active restoration, like you would almost get from a Reiki session. 00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:28.400 That's what it feels like to me. 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:30.320 Am I am I misinterpreting it? 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:33.119 I mean, would you say there's something to that, maybe? 00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:34.639 I would say it's more. 00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:38.239 So Reiki kind of provides more of like a calming. 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.480 This was almost activating. 00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.880 It was like it was calming and activating at the same time. 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.119 And this is where I don't really know how to explain it. 00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:57.920 It was like a f uh, it was an physiological physical experience that I like like how if you imagine like how would trees communicate to us? 00:50:58.000 --> 00:50:58.320 I don't know. 00:50:58.400 --> 00:50:59.119 Like what would they like? 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:00.480 It's not a typical communication. 00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:01.440 Like we have no idea. 00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:04.880 They're a different type of living being in a way. 00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:19.360 So I don't know what that communication would even look like, but I I'm imagining like somehow I knew it was communication, but it was somehow because I was resonating and synchronizing with them. 00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:23.679 So it was active, but yet harmonious. 00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:25.679 So interesting. 00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:27.119 I I I don't know. 00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:32.559 Yeah, it sounds, it sounds really bizarre, but um, but it is like that's that's how it was. 00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:36.320 I remember coming out of it feeling like, what just happened? 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:38.480 That's incredible. 00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:42.480 I mean, on that trip, there were a lot of other things that happened that were very meaningful to me. 00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:55.440 I remember we were doing the Tamaskal ceremony, which is like this hut, like a clay hut that uh has like a clay dome and it's dug into the ground partially. 00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:08.800 Um, so you go into it, and when you sit on the floor, you're essentially sitting in the ground, and then they cover the door, and there's like a central pit and they put a lot of hot coal and it gets very hot. 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:10.480 It becomes a sweat lodge inside. 00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:15.360 And so you have this, the shaman who goes in and does the ceremony. 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:18.880 There's like a special ceremony that's being done with the with the Tamascal. 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:29.039 And um, it's it's uh supposed to be like a Mayan ceremony traditional that a lot of the Mexican traditional people in that area of Tulum still keep. 00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:40.000 Um and I remember so he was singing, like you start sweating, and he was singing and you sing too to kind of resonate with it. 00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:43.440 And I remember it's it was it's pitch black in in there. 00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:52.159 The only thing you see are like sometimes like if these coals have a little bit of color from the fire, like you see it, but once it gets a little bit cooler, you you see nothing. 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:53.519 It's pitch black. 00:52:53.840 --> 00:53:01.920 And um for people who are like me who are kind of like claustrophobic, it's it's uh it's not comfortable, it's not fun. 00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:05.280 Um so you I really had to do like a lot of deep breathing. 00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:21.840 And I remember opening my eyes um as in one of the sessions as he was singing, and I could swear I saw like there was like a light that kept going around and around and around the Temascal, like as if like there was like an energetic, some kind of a light. 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.480 And I was like, what is that? 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:27.840 And I I don't think I was seeing things. 00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.639 It's I don't think it was in my own like vision. 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:32.480 It was like it was 3D. 00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:35.920 Um and so that that was an interesting one. 00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:41.519 Um, and then I remember when we went to explore caves locally. 00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:47.519 Um at some point, I could swear I heard a jaguar roar in the background. 00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:54.719 And it was a a place of traditional like Mayan ceremony where they did like a lot of underground type stuff. 00:53:54.880 --> 00:54:00.079

Um and I could have that was actually, I'm sorry, that was not in Mexico, that was in Belize. 00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:02.719 I heard that in Belize, but also Mayan sites. 00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:04.639 Um yeah. 00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:06.320 That's pretty crazy. 00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:10.880 That's like that's I would I would label that as like an animal communication, if you will. 00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:13.920 A Jaguar from the past was roaring at me. 00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:24.320 Well, speaking of uh from the past, like you you jogged my memory um when I was uh doing readings and stuff, like with uh mediumship readings. 00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:42.239 I remember dogs coming up, and that was validated of past loved ones coming with their beloved pets that also crossed over that come through, and um the sitter will validate that yeah, that's definitely that that dog was real. 00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:42.800 Uh-huh. 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:43.440 Yeah. 00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.880 Which also goes back to the whole consciousness thing. 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:52.960 And, you know, uh, there's a consciousness that exists, and yeah, Jaguar, what who knows where that jaguar came from? 00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:56.159 Whether it was a jaguar that was sacrificed, who knows? 00:54:56.239 --> 00:55:01.840 I but that's, you know, it's just there's certain things that right now we just can't explain. 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:05.599 That happens, and we have to acknowledge it. 00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:19.679 And hopefully one day, you know, I think probably I give it 100 to 200 years, we might have a better understanding of it similar to all the other progress we've made over the past 200 years. 00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:20.559 Hmm. 00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:40.800 Yeah, I was actually recently thinking about totally kind of related to the animals thing, is that um how a lot of uh traditional ancient cultures uh kill animals for food, but in a very honoring way. 00:55:41.039 --> 00:56:00.400 Like, yes, like we understand that we're taking your life for you to to provide sustenance to our bodies, but there's like um like a lot of Native American um tribes used a lot of respect for the animals that they kill, and um, and a lot of other cultures throughout the world as well. 00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:07.119 So it just made me wonder how much wisdom we have lost to. 00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:09.199 Like we are advancing in so many ways. 00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:12.559 And yes, you're saying like a hundred years from now we'll understand more. 00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:23.760 But I wonder how much we already did understand in the past and we just forgotten that knowledge or thought it was not useful because it just seemed archaic to us and we let go of it. 00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:34.159 But how much of it was actually true wisdom about connecting with the universe and connecting with other consciousness and how we do it at large, and we've lost it. 00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:35.199 Like we just don't have it. 00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:39.679 We buy our meat from the supermarket, we have no idea how it was killed. 00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:44.880 We find out that it was killed inhumanely and the animals were raised inhumanely, and then we're like, oh shit. 00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:47.840 And then half of us are like, well, too bad. 00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:57.840 And then just the life is just so different now than when we killed our own animals and ate it, and like we were responsible for the life we take and how we did do it. 00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:07.360 It just feels like, yes, maybe in a hundred years we'll we'll advance, and maybe we'll come back to some of the wisdom we already did have that we lost. 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:12.639 Yeah, I mean, it's just very interesting, you know, that you go back to this. 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:21.679 I was recently uh listening to a podcast, and I don't remember which one it was, but talking about this kind of ancient wisdom. 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.760 Um, and also I've been some reading that I've recently done. 00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:30.880 Uh, shout out to Laurelyn uh Jackson and her new book, Guided, really good. 00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:35.679 Um three-fourths of the way done, and kind of touches on this as well. 00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:37.840 So I'll probably bridge the two together. 00:57:38.159 --> 00:58:08.079 But um there's this thought that there has been so much ancient wisdom going back centuries, centuries, of just like different herbal remedies and different um uh things that were used, and the idea of psychedelics and the use of psychedelics in order to kind of bridge that gap of um how we perceive consciousness. 00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:16.960 And and now we're using it for mental health, which is phenomenal and great, um, and is very helpful, I feel, for a lot of people. 00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:19.280 Um, and I'm sure you could test to that. 00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:40.239 Um, but there was gatekeepers, and um, these gatekeepers included um religious leaders like the Catholic Church did a lot of gatekeeping on this, I've heard, and I'm sure there are others I can just reference that because I know that for a fact, that they would suppress the use of these kind of psychedelics and different potions and things like that. 00:58:40.480 --> 00:59:00.800 And what I've heard, and um what I from different podcasts is a lot of these people who would do these were like considered more high priestess, and it's the women who would have these different potions, and eventually, in order to kind of alienate them and try to kind of keep people from going them, they labeled these women as witches. 00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:23.360 Witches, witches, and so um that eventually kind of suppressed that and kind of put it out of favor, and that's kind of where the culture kind of lent to, just kind of moving away from these natural kind of ways of just um, you know, healing the body naturally, you know, like similar

your Temascal, like that ceremony. 00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:44.079 Um, in Laura Lynn Jackson's book, she kind of referenced it, but the the the thought of grounding, where um Native Americans, I don't remember which tribe specifically, but um they're some one of the Native American Southwest nations, they would dig uh like a hole in the ground. 00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:48.239 And um, the reference was to a child who is extremely sick. 00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:55.199 Uh, like sounds like the child in in in my world would be someone who's probably septic and maybe heading towards septic shock. 00:59:55.440 --> 01:00:02.480 The child was placed on the ground and left there in the sun to just kind of breathe and get through it. 01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:11.360 And then within 24 hours, the child was essentially heading in the right direction and ended up living their regular life. 01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:19.119 Um, and I feel like there's something similar to the Temascal where you're kind of putting yourself on on the ground and then you're sweating it out. 01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:27.599 You're like kind of releasing, there's a release to it, but also the grounding of it too that you know that is also useful and is now trying to be incorporated. 01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:36.480 And many people are using, I know down in near me in Delray Beach, they have a Temascal as part of their rehab for substance abuse down here. 01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:38.719 I think it's US. 01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:39.280 Yeah. 01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:52.079 Pretty sure it's the only one in the US, but it's specifically for the rehab center that they have that in order to kind of help process just different things that they may be going through, which I think is super cool and awesome. 01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:54.480 Um, and it it goes back to that. 01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:55.440 But you're right. 01:00:55.599 --> 01:01:10.079 I mean, there's a lot that could continue to be suppressed just because of how our society works and what is deemed worthy of being important versus not important. 01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:18.239 Um, and you know, the pendulum is also swinging in a way that's moving away from science in a different way, too, which we don't have to go there. 01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:27.599 But I don't, I don't necessarily think that that pendulum will include these kind of more natural remedies. 01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:33.840 And even at so, like we would still need to somehow figure out a way to test them to make sure that they are safe and everything like that. 01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:35.440 I totally believe in that. 01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:44.880 Um, but I do think that you're you have a point in that a lot of this may continue to be suppressed just over centuries. 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:55.519 It's been kind of, you know, what's been done by higher leadership and um those who see themselves as the overlords. 01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:56.800 I don't know how else to put it. 01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:58.400 Overlords, I like that. 01:01:58.559 --> 01:01:59.440 The overlords. 01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:01.679 The overlords say so. 01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:14.880 Which is really interesting. 01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:19.679 I think it happened over and over again throughout centuries. 01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:25.280 There are lots of different like examples of where wisdom and history was lost. 01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:32.239 Um, but I I wonder kind of, and then and I guess this is an entirely different subject. 01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:34.079 How did how do how do we do that? 01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:36.000 How do humans do that? 01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:56.639 We have so much knowledge that has been acquired and so much wisdom, and yet it feels like sometimes we get into a position of where we become totally stupid and uh get rid of the wisdom and say, like, oh, this is poppycocks, and then just move into some other direction, which may be interesting, um, but we lose that wisdom. 01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:20.880 So I wonder if sometimes the road to innovation means losing some other aspect, which makes sense because I guess if we're talking about filtering and suppression and we only can handle a certain amount of information without getting overwhelmed, maybe in order for us to move into a direction that's completely new, we sometimes need to suppress what we already know and we just put it aside. 01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:22.079 True. 01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:34.559 That definitely could be the case, you know, like and another thought I had is just like I feel like sometimes in humanity, it's normal. 01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:41.440 It's like part of how kind of humanity works, is like we kind of work in groups. 01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:46.559 And so if we want to try to keep the group together, like doing the same thing. 01:03:46.800 --> 01:04:06.079 So I feel like in culmination with what you're saying and like how we can only take in so much, and that you know, our natural tendency is to be in packs and groups, like we're gonna want to try to get the whole group to accept one unilateral thought, like one singular thought to keep the cohesion. 01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:16.320 So, and I think that kind of both kind of entangle and play together into kind of why we continue to move in the direction we do and decide what's important versus what's not important. 01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:19.360 No, that makes really that makes a lot of sense. 01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:40.159 So I guess to kind of go back to tying this all together from what we started in terms of intuition, I guess it sounds like you and I both believe that there is definitely more to intuition than just rapid unconscious processing of information that our brains take in um locally. 01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:42.320 Like there, there is more to all of this. 01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:52.800 And I think you and I both agree that while we can try to use some quantum mechanics to possibly explain it, it's just in the

beginning baby stages of trying to explain it. 01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:55.519 And there is just so much more we just cannot explain yet. 01:04:55.760 --> 01:05:02.159 But there is research being done to try to at least show that these things are happening. 01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:13.360 How to explain it, I think we're still like pretty far away from trying to explain how, but at least we're getting data showing that it is happening, that these things are real. 01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:19.760 Um it's just yeah, it's just kind of hard to understand why. 01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:23.920 So for those of us who just want hard data, uh sorry. 01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:26.719 Yeah, can't yeah, we're not there yet. 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:31.039 But I I think there we're it's promising and we're getting there. 01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:32.719 And I love how we're matching. 01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:33.199 Just love it. 01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:33.679 Me too. 01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:35.119 Matchy matchy. 01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:36.000 All right. 01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:38.880 Lightning round question number one. 01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:42.800 If you were an animal, which animal would you want to be? 01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:46.239 Oh, well, depends on the day, I think. 01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:55.360 Um, I feel like most of the time these days, I really would love to be like an osprey, like a hawk, you know, like a bird of prey. 01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:57.519 I just think they're so beautiful. 01:05:57.679 --> 01:06:07.280 I see them uh, you know, in the winter here in Florida, they're always around like all these beautiful, majestic hawks, and I just love seeing them soar. 01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:13.519 So, and I personally, like whenever I have like those really awesome dreams where you control, it's usually flying. 01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:15.920 Like, I feel very connected to birds. 01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:18.000 So I would think I would want to be an osprey. 01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:19.280 Interesting. 01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:20.400 What about tomorrow? 01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:21.920 What are you gonna want to be tomorrow? 01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:23.280 Maybe a tiger. 01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:28.239 See, that that I think I would have guessed more than an osprey. 01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:33.199 So I could just lie down, eat my meat, chill, watch a little reality TV. 01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:36.320 Call count my stripes. 01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:38.079 Count my stripes, exactly. 01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:39.199 Go hunting. 01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.280 Aren't my stripes pretty? 01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:43.840 Put some glitter on them. 01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:44.719 100%. 01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:46.239 Absolutely. 01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:47.119 Come on. 01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:52.480 For those of you who haven't met Michelle on the previous episode, Michelle is a glitter queen. 01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:53.519 Yes, I am. 01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:54.079 Yes. 01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:57.519 I mean, like, I don't

know if you could see my nails and appreciate them. 01:06:57.920 --> 01:06:58.880 They're quite glittery. 01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.800 Lightning question number two. 01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:05.760 What did you want to be growing up? 01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:07.119 Doctor. 01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:13.679 Well, before the doctor, did you ever have a moment of like, I want to be a poop cleaner or something like that? 01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:15.840 So it's so funny you say that. 01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:26.480 Like, I remember being on the subway when I was four years old, coming home from preschool with my grandmother, looking around me, just like looking around the subway. 01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:31.519 And I just, I feel like this might be the first thought I could remember myself having. 01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:37.519 Like thinking, I don't understand why anyone would not want to be a doctor. 01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:42.159 It's the best way that you can take care of your family. 01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:46.239 And I it's been a fulfilled prophecy for me. 01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:47.519 For sure. 01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:50.960 That's been one of the best ways I could take care of my family. 01:07:51.039 --> 01:08:03.840 I mean, there's many other wonderful ways I do, but no, but I've always like toyed with the idea of also like maybe I could be a hairdresser or maybe I could be Oprah Winfrey, you know, like things like that. 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:17.359 Just because I have like such a presence and I, you know, I like to have fun and I just I did acting for a little while in high school and I won some competitions with um solo dramatic performances. 01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:18.000 Really? 01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:18.880 I did not know that. 01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:20.159 Did you really? 01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:32.560 Yeah, I used to have a play, a one-girl play, where I was four different characters, and I placed a couple of times, like third place, like broke into the top three, you know. 01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:40.239 So yeah, and I was I was an Annie and I was in a comedic play where I played Cinderella, like, yeah. 01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:41.760 Go you, Michelle. 01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:43.439 So maybe Oprah. 01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.119 If I wasn't this, I would be Oprah. 01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:46.880 Okay, okay. 01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:49.359 There's always a next life. 01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:50.560 There is. 01:08:52.079 --> 01:08:53.600 Or maybe that's the past life. 01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:54.000 Who knows? 01:08:54.159 --> 01:08:54.479 Who knows? 01:08:54.720 --> 01:08:56.800 There's no time, it's all like happening all at once. 01:08:56.960 --> 01:08:57.600 That's right. 01:08:57.760 --> 01:08:58.640 That's right. 01:08:59.119 --> 01:08:59.680 All right. 01:08:59.920 --> 01:09:01.680 Favorite food or drink? 01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:03.279 Favorite food or drink. 01:09:03.439 --> 01:09:13.840 My favorite food, I would have to say, is right now I'm like really into my parmed phase of life where I love chicken palm, shrimp parm, eggplant parm. 01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:15.039 I love things that are parmed. 01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:18.079 It brings much joy to my life to have melted cheese. 01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:28.239 And my favorite drink would probably be water with my hydromate electrolytes that are candy flavor or my morning cafe con leche that I have. 01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:34.159 That I the cafe con leche is wonderful, but the water with whatever vitamins you have, that's such a dork drink. 01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:35.279 I'm sorry. 01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:41.279 Well, I will drink my dork drink happily. 01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:43.119 As I'm wearing the glasses. 01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:45.199 Exactly. 01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:47.279 Okay. 01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:50.880 Wait, so you eat shrimp with cheese on top? 01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:53.439 Girl, that's how I survived my pregnancy. 01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:54.880 Like with my kids. 01:09:55.520 --> 01:10:04.319 Like it's it's breaded shrimp with with the marinara sauce and then the the parmesan cheese, like the mozzarella cheese and everything. 01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:12.800 Like I I started doing this when I was in high school because like every time my family, like every Friday was like Pizza Friday or whatever. 01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:15.600 And I just love shrimp. 01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:21.359 So I got in the habit of having shrimp parm heroes or like chicken parm heroes and stuff like that. 01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:22.800 And it's just something I carried through. 01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:27.439 And like when I was pregnant, I was with my two kids, I was constantly craving that stuff. 01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:28.079 Yeah. 01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:29.279 I love it. 01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:31.359 Um, Dr. 01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:35.199 Michelle Marin, thank you so much for being on the show again. 01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:38.399 And uh I really appreciate you chatting with me. 01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:41.520 It's always wonderful, and I love seeing you. 01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:46.079 And uh we're gonna have to have you back for season two. 01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:49.920 Um, I'm not really sure what we'll talk about yet, but I'm sure we'll come up with something. 01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:51.119 We'll figure it out. 01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:52.000 Thank you so much. 01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:58.319 It's been my pleasure, and I really, really loved being on your podcast again. 01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:02.319 Look forward to speaking with the audience once again. 01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:03.119 Thank you, Dr. 01:11:03.279 --> 01:11:04.079 Conboy. 01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:04.880 Thank you, Dr. 01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:05.439 Marin. 01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:06.800 Doctora Marin.