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This is The Other Side of Midnight.
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They're running a strange program, y'all.
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With Walter Sterling.
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There's this new trend now on X and probably some
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of the other social media platforms where we're getting these
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AI-generated stories. And they're not necessarily real. And there was
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one that I really, really liked. I was aware it
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probably wasn't a true story. But it was just a
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beautiful depiction of a kindness that a particular woman who
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was a barber hairdresser had done for a man coming
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into her shop. And I just said it was beautiful
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because it is beautiful, even if it is an AI-generated story.
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And here and there, there's people who just had to
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be really nasty about it. It's like if you're the
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kind of person who needs to be nasty, who needs
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to be contrary... You know, in the face of beauty,
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even if it's computer generated, what does it matter? It
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was a beautiful story of kindness. It doesn't matter if
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it's real or not.
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It doesn't.
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It would matter if I reported it as a real story.
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I said, you know, that's different. But I'm just talking
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about it was a beautiful thing. And, you know, four
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or five people just couldn't help but say, this isn't real.
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You're an idiot. It's like, wow. You know, it's like
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the rejection of a kindness, rejection of beauty, rejection of
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something that touches people is, man, I just hope I
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never get that reflex. I hope I'm never that guy.
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That's all I can say. We're talking war movies now,
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which is interesting. We've morphed from bagels to war movies,
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which is really appropriate. This is Veterans Day. And there
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are so many great war movies. Sometimes, you know, there
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was a time when Hollywood really helped America get a
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good perspective about itself, really respected our true heroes. I
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think now, Hollywood acts as so much of an enemy
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of the people. And a lot of it has to
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do with, let's face it, a lot of it has
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to do with the Chinese investment and the Chinese money
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in Hollywood, Hollywood's desire to please the Chinese market. You know,
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the reason why they keep making these superhero movies is
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because you really don't need to understand the language to
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sort of follow them. You don't really have to have subtitles.
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And you can dub in dialogue when the when you're
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not seeing the actual characters they're flying and i can
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see their mouth moves so it doesn't look odd like
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the old the old kung fu movies in the 70s
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that used to get dubbed and it was just so
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obviously you know not not matching the movement of the
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lips it was hilarious um right now i just see
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hollywood as being a real enemy of the american the
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american society just really do i'm sorry I can go
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into a lot of reasons why I think that, but again,
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there have been some exceptions to the rule. Oppenheimer was
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a fantastic film. We're hearing that this Jimmy Stewart movie
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was great. Thank God. I hope it is. I've been
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very worried about it because it's a topic near and
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dear to my heart, so I'm hoping that. Mary in Chicago,
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you want to talk about Band of Brothers, which is
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also something that came out of a Stephen Ambrose book.
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Go ahead.
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You know what?
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I do want to.
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That other caller reminded me of another.
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Movie that is.
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Anybody who's looking for a new, fresh movie about World
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War II would like this. I did not think it
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was going to be anything. It was called Pressure, and
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it was starring Brandon Fraser, who I'm thinking, come on,
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it's George of the Jungle. But it turned out to be...
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It was the sidekick who really stole the show. I
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would recommend it. It was like old school... and really
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well done. And it did not disappoint.
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Well, Brendan Fraser was also in
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school ties though, which
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is a great movie. Still holds up with, with Matt
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Damon and, and unknown Matt Damon at the time, unknown
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Ben Affleck. Uh, that's a great man.
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Uh, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, he's been in some goofy films. That's for sure.
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No, it was okay, but it was the other guy
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who really paid off.
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Anybody would like this movie, but getting back to band
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of brothers, I would say I, um, I got the
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part where they had the real guys.
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They interspersed.
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Oh, yeah.
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And they almost all, a lot of them said.
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The same thing. Like, we looked at.
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Those 18-year-old soldiers that died. They were our fellow Americans.
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And we almost all said they were the lucky ones
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because here they.
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Were, like, frostbitten, freezing.
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Starving and they just had to keep going on.
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So they were never relieved. I mean, they, you know,
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there was never like this moment where they realized that
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the Pentagon, Oh, these guys have been in contiguous duty,
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continuous duty for all these months and years. Like it's
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time to rotate them out. And they never did. They
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never did.
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Well, there's nothing stronger than an 18 year old man,
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but come on.
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I just, it's really, it's a beautiful thing.
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Yeah, it's important. Again, all the Stephen Ambrose books, I
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had a chance to interview him. Stephen Ambrose, his amount
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of his work was unbelievable. He did three books on
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Richard Nixon. He did many books on Eisenhower. He did
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many books on both the Pacific and the European theaters
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in the war. Just an amazing, amazing person who was
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very astute. And I had a chance to interview him
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her radio story once back in 1994, after the Republicans
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shockingly took control of Congress that year. And we talked
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about how Eisenhower felt in 54 when the Republicans lost
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Congress and how he was secretly happy because now he
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felt like he could get stuff done. But anyway, thank you, Mary.
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Jimmy in Panama City, you also want to talk about
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war movies.
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Yes.
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Uh, first thing I would like to say is, uh,
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I'm wearing a dog tag around my neck and I
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never knew my grandfather on my father's side of the
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family was in world war one. And, uh, I didn't
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even know my cousin found them. His name was Robert
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Lee par and, uh, it's round. Nobody knows what it is,
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but I wear that. And I also knew another incredible man.
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His name was Dick Hostetler. I knew him from Mesquite, Nevada.
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And we called him German Dick. His parents, his mother
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lived in Germany when Hitler started taking over. And him
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and his brother wound up being Hitler Youth. And his
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brother took quite to it. And Dick didn't. His mother
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didn't like it at all. And she got him out
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of there. He came over here. And he served 20
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years in Coast Guard. But the movie I was calling
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about was, I remember the movie. It was black and white.
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The B-17 to me. It's the prettiest airplane ever made.
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I got to take a tour of the Spiritus. No,
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that was Charles. Sentimental Journey. Okay. All polished aluminum and
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a beautiful B-17. And this movie, that was the plane
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they flew, and it was 12 o'clock high.
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Right.
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That's a great film. That's a great film too. So
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many great ones.
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Yeah.
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So many great ones.
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I don't remember who starred in it or anything. I
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just remember the movie and that I enjoyed it and
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being in a sentimental journey and they took all the
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armament out of it so they can carry more ammunition
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in the airplane.
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That's right.
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That's right. But they put the, they put the crew
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at risk in that way and they, So many of
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them died in those planes.
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It was a beer can, really. I mean, the bullets
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had to come through there and rip. And when you're
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standing there and they had, I guess they were actual guns,
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like a door gunner would use and stuff. But of course,
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they didn't work. But I can't imagine being 18, 19
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years 44, 35, 65, and be standing there and just
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having to pick it out. And then the belly gutter,
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that little door they had to go through to get
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into there, and if it took a wrong shot, it
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was over. They were stuck in that airplane.
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But we had a lot of them and we had
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so many of them that, you know, we could overcome
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the structural defects or the many. And the same thing
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was true of the Sherman tank, which, by the way,
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Stephen Ambrose talks about the Sherman tank in this regard
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in that, you know, they broke down. But at that time,
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most American boys knew how to tinker with an engine,
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whereas the Panzer was so sophisticated and hard to figure out.
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that the German boys couldn't figure out how to get
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under the hood there. And that was a major part
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of it. Thank you, Jimmy, in Florida. Robert in Manhattan.
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You want to talk World War II stuff. Go ahead, Robert.
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Good morning, Jake. You know, the best tank in the world,
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and most military will tell you what it was, it
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wasn't the Panzer and it wasn't the Sherman. It was
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the T-34.
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The Russian one.
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And if you don't believe that, just watch anything on
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the Battle of Kursk. July 1943, a tank battle, which
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is the greatest tank battle in history, 6,000 tanks on
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both sides. Anyway, you mentioned the Civil War. The one
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movie that I recommend to people, but it is not.
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not an easy movie to watch, Andersonville.
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Yeah, I knew you were going to say that. Yeah,
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great movie about the prisoner of war camp.
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Yes. Now, I'll give you quickly, before I tell you
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why I called you, my favorite movies were World War II.
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Not in this order, but just midway. Midway is one.
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That's a good one.
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Guadalcanal Diary, based on Richard Trigaskis' book, Guns of Navarone,
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and its sequel, Force 10. And one of the reasons
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is I taught World War II to high school students.
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I'm a World War II aficionado, and I remember all
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the great World War II television programs from the 50s.
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The greatest was Victory at Sea, with the great musical
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score by Robert Russell and Richard Rogers, Leonard Gray, based
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on Samuel Elliott Mars and his incredible naval history. And
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the musical score is wonderful. The 26 episodes, if you
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can ever find them, Jake, are wonderful. Let me ask
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you a question. How familiar are you with the war
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on the Eastern Front? And I have two reasons for
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asking you that question. You know, Eisenhower... wanted to coordinate D-Day,
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and he actually did. June 6, 1944, when we landed
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on Omaha in Utah, the Russians opened up a campaign
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called Operation Bagration to clear the Germans from Belarus and
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the Ukraine at the very time that we were invading.
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You know that the Russians were the first ones to discover,
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you know, the murder camps were not in Germany. There
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were terrible camps in Germany, but the six murder camps
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were in Poland. And one of them was Majdanek. And
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the Russians discovered Majdanek in the summer of 1944. And
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when they let the news out to the West, sadly enough, Jake,
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very few believed it. They thought it was Russian propaganda.
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Yeah, you know, anyone who was in the death camps
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will tell you that the death camps that were liberated
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by the Russians, there was no messing around. The Russians
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took all the officers, and there weren't a lot of Germans.
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There were a lot of Ukrainians who were Nazis. They
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lined them up and shot them. They didn't waste any time.
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The Americans got to the death camps, Bergen-Belsen most notably,
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and were like, what's going on here? And then to
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his credit, when Eisenhower got there, he marched the local
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citizens through the place so they could never say they
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didn't know what was going on.
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And you know the funny thing about that? They showed
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the troops. Now, a lot of those people, you know,
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went home and they did themselves in. They couldn't understand. Oh,
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we didn't know what was going on, but they made
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them dig graves.
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It was amazing. Jake, this is a great, great show.
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As a World War II aficionado, you and I could
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discuss a lot of World War II movies and a
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lot of things in World War II, like the diaper
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rebellion in Belgrade, which may have changed what happened in Russia,
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which may have saved Moscow. So I'm very glad that
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we did what we did in World War II. It
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was the war, the right war, and it's emotional. And
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I did not, and you know, I will say one thing.
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One of the things that I love about World War
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II is Do you even know that even cartoons, animated shorts,
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you want to see something very interesting. You want to
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see the cartoon where Popeye tries to convince his nephews
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to start a victory garden. It is hilarious.
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I think I've seen some of that. Yeah, it's good stuff. Anyway,
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thank you so much, Robert, and thank you for all
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your work and your teaching of young people about World
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War II. So very important, and you know it's not
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in the curriculum anymore. In too many schools, that's for sure.
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Jim in Chicago, you want to talk some war stories?
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Go ahead, Jim.
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Yeah, good show. A couple things real fast. My favorite
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movie wasn't really a movie. It was a documentary that
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we got from the Japanese that filmed the bombing of
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Pearl Harbor. They filmed the whole thing. And on this documentary,
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And there were things that we weren't aware of, like
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there was a mini-sub that was in the harbor. How
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did that get in? We didn't even weren't aware of
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it until we watched, you know, they watched the documentary
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that they filmed the whole thing, and it's phenomenal. But
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my story is my neighbor across the street from me says, Hey,
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DJ's on, so are you going to watch that stuff?
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He looks at me, he goes... I don't watch any
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of that crap. I don't have to. I was there.
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You got a minute? And I says, yeah, why? I says,
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come into my house. I come up in his house.
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He comes down with a briefcase, opens it up. He's
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got four bronze stars. Wow. A letter of valor, a
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letter from the president. He also had the gun that
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misfired that would have killed him. He's got that as
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a keepsake. He's held on to that. And for him
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to tell the story, you know, they had landed on
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D-Day and that. And it's like, wow, no way. Unbelievable.
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You know, so many of the World War II veterans
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are dying out. We're really getting to that last stage
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now where anyone who was really an active, soldier or
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sailor in world war ii you know we're really i
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think every day some ridiculously high number of them pass
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away and that's a dangerous moment for us as a
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country where we have no more firsthand people to talk
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about it anyway jim thank you so much for your
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for your stories and uh we'll have more this on
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this veterans day edition of the other side of midnight
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i'm jake novak in for walter sterling we'll be.
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Right back the other side of midnight with walter sterling
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It's The Other Side of Midnight with Walter Sterling.
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We have gotten around during these few hours of this program,
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haven't we? On this edition of The Other Side of Midnight,
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we were talking about bagels,
we've got war movies, we've
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got all kinds of stuff. I'm Jake Novak. In for
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my friend Walter Sterling this evening. By the way, in
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my book, the two best Beach Boys songs are I
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Get Around and Good Vibrations. And talking about movies, I
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highly recommend the movie Love and Mercy with John Cusack.
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And I forgot the name of the actor who played
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the younger Brian Wilson. It is an incredible movie because
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it delves into the mental anguish of Brian Wilson, but
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also a lot of the music. And there's a very
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good segment of the movie where they look at the
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recording and production of good vibrations. Uh, and it's just a, although,
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you know, I know we're playing get around right now,
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but great movie and a good example of how that
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in some cases, the line between genius and mental illness
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is very thin. And sometimes people cross over back and forth,
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really good film, uh, highly recommended. Uh, you know, I,
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I think about how best to honor veterans and parades
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are great. And talking about their stories are great. You know,
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even if they weren't in a war and certainly even
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if they weren't wounded or anything else like that, what
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did it mean, you know, to work in a military,
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in the military, in one way or the other, whether
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you were a desk jockey or out in the middle
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of a battlefield, there's something to be learned from it.
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And so many of our great Americans were veterans and
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use that experience in their careers. You know, I can
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think of so many people, especially in the entertainment industry,
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People like Rod Serling, who really got his inspiration for
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so many of the Twilight Zone stories from his time
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in the service. Again, it was such a molder of creativity,
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a forger of creativity. And you wish that it didn't
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have to come along with the millions of lives who
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died in that conflict. But yeah. at least we get
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some things out of it that we may not otherwise know.
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And that includes some of the technological discoveries as well.
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I mean, for all the horror that nuclear weapons are,
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and thank God we've only had two instances of them
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ever being used, nuclear power and some of the other
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technological breakthroughs from the discoveries that were the result of
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a race to a weapon that have led to good things.
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You know, it's just, again, you have to, You have
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to try your best to balance the good with the bad,
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and it's important. David in the Bronx wants to disagree
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with me about something. I'm used to that. I had
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teenage daughters once. Go ahead, David.
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Oh, hey. Thank you, Jake.
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You had mentioned about the film industry being controlled by
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the Chinese. I don't disagree that the film industry is
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marketing in a very Chinese-friendly way, but I don't think
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it's political.
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Okay.
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I think what you're doing is that you're assuming that
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you've got people in Hollywood who are making these decisions
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based on political.
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No, no, no, no. That's by the way, you're right.
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I meant to say, I think they're doing it for
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financial reasons. I don't think they're doing it for political.
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Exactly.
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Yeah. No, no, no, no.
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I meant, I meant financial change. You're right. All right.
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Because something that's changed a lot over the years is
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that– because I used to watch classic movies. I lost
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my vision 14 years ago. But before that, I used
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to watch a lot of black and white movies. And
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you notice that movies were made specifically for the American audience,
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and that's where they were making their money. Now the
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audience is all over the world, so movies can't be
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made the way that people like you and I might
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have been used to. And I think it looks– like
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it's anti-American or whatever, but it's actually just
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don't think someone in Hollywood is saying, we want to
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make this.
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Movie to be anti-American. 100%. By that, and the film,
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for example, they did that movie First Man, which of
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all the really good movies about the early space program,
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it was the worst. It's not a good movie. But
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there was a huge controversy, remember, because as they land
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on the surface of the moon, they took out the scene...
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Where they planted the American flag because they didn't want
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it to be, you know, to offend the Chinese audience
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and wanted to make just incredible stupidity like that. You know,
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to me, the greatest film by far, and it's not
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even close, about the space program is The Right Stuff.
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It's one of the most incredible films of all time.
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And I say that even though. And I don't say
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that just because the director was a classmate of my
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dad's at the University of Chicago, Philip Kaufman. It's an
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incredible movie. It must be seen by so many people.
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No way that movie gets made today. Not even close.
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And it wasn't a rah-rah, everything is perfect kind of movie.
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There were a lot of problems with the space program,
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a lot of corruption and other issues going on there.
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So it wasn't, it's not that it's just would never
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be made today. Too American, too long, uh, too many,
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too many difficult concepts to, to put in a film,
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but it, I can't recommend it enough. And I remember
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one of the real happy moments of, uh, of me,
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of my life as a dad was when I showed
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the right stuff. We watched my, my, at my then
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13 year old older daughter and I watched it and
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she just absolutely loved it. And she wasn't that kind
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of a kid who liked those kinds of movies, but
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I thought to myself, that's a good sign. But yeah,
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you make a lot of good friends.
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Can I just mention one more thing before I go?
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Go ahead.
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I think this is a good example of this. And
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this was actually the last movie I saw before I
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lost my vision. Do you remember a movie.
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Called World War Z?
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Yes.
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It was a zombie movie.
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All right.
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The book that that movie was based on, the virus
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that caused the whole thing, was started in China. They
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removed all of that from the film, hoping they were
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going to get it approved. And in China, they don't
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allow movies about zombies or ghosts or anything else. So
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they catered to the Chinese. And they still didn't get
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the movie market there. So this catering to China doesn't
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even really pay off a lot of times.
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But it's a big reason why we keep having all
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these superhero movies. And I used to be a big
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fan of those movies a long time ago. But now
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it's just ridiculous. And China is a huge reason why,
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because they're very easy to dub. They're very easy to
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make without subtitles. And that's a huge reason why they're
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making these movies over and over and over again. You know,
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it's it's it's yet. No, it's about money. I do
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believe that there are some anti-American sentiments in Hollywood, but
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not not in the movies that they're marketing to China.
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It's not because of that. You're you're you're exactly right.
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And I'm sorry I didn't make that clear because I
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agree with that. Mike in South Carolina, you want to
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talk about Veterans Day, please do.
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Hey, Jake, man, I'll tell you what. I tuned into
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your show an hour ago. Fantastic. I'm listening 30 some
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odd years to WABC radio.
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Okay.
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I'm 72 years old. I have a son and daughter.
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Doing well up north. My father's best friend growing up,
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Uncle Paul, he died two years ago. He was 98.
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And 82nd Airborne Battle of the Balls he was in.
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Yeah.
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And Pierce, you know.
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It was a tough one. And totally unnecessary, too. You know,
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I mean, I don't want to take your time. I mean,
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you'll get time to.
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No, go ahead.
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The Battle of the Bulge was something that we had
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already taken and cracked the Enigma machine well before the
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Battle of the Bulge. The Pentagon had many communiques that
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we had decoded because the Enigma machine and at Bletchley Park,
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the British were helping us with this. And we knew
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that this was coming. And the Pentagon kept saying, I
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don't care what these messages say. Our assessment from here
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in Washington is that the Germans don't have enough manpower
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to launch this counterattack at Bastogne. But I mean, it
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was totally avoidable. And it just goes to show that
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you can have all the intel in the world, all
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the technology in the world. If you have buffoons and
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arrogant people running an operation, whether it's a business or
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a war, Lots of luck, because you've got to have
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a certain amount of humility to fight a war, and
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the Battle of the Bulge is an inexcusable error on
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behalf of the United States and the Allies. We should
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never have been caught in that situation. Go ahead. Sorry,
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I had to pontificate for a second about that. Go ahead.
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No, that's okay, man. I can listen. That's okay. You know,
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my mother passed away four years ago. She was 90. Okay,
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about 20 years ago, she gave Uncle Paul the only
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book on the 82nd Airborne. And my uncle Paul had
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to leave the table. He was crying. But I worked
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with a lot of guys when I worked Metro North
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Vietnam vets. I just miss Vietnam. I'm 72. And they
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never spoke about it. Every time I see somebody wear
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a shirt down here or a hat, a veteran, I'll
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always acknowledge him. Always. Always.
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You know, yeah.
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You know, we just need to acknowledge them. You
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we need to understand that this is I mean, there
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are just too many generations now of Americans since the
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end of the draft who don't know anyone who ever
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served anywhere, war or not war. And that's not good.
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I'm sorry. We have to be they need to be
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front facing in our society. And they're not. And that,
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you know, there's a lot of people to blame for that.
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But all I can say is that if you do
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know a veteran, talk to them. find out their stories,
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and just acknowledge them. Acknowledge them. That's what this day
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is about. It's not about mourning. This is not Memorial Day.
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This is about acknowledgement, and I think there's a big difference.
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So I thank you.
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Well said.
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Thank you, Mike.
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Sorry.
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Well, that's okay. Well said. And, you know, I sing
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with a guy, some of my senior buddies in the
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morning at Mickey D's for senior coffee. And Bill is
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two years older than me. He looks like Santa Claus.
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And he never, never, never speaks about his time in Vietnam. Never. And,
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you know, so anytime, like I said, today, I'm going
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to go to a ceremony. I believe it's 12 o'clock.
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in North Myrtle Beach. I'm going to go to that
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ceremony just to acknowledge, you know, just to acknowledge. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Good for you. That's really necessary. All right. Gary in
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New Jersey, you want to talk Veterans Day?
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Go ahead, Gary.
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Yes.
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Good morning, Jake. I just wanted to quickly call and
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acknowledge my father, William Freeman from Jersey, originally Scranton, married
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my mom this week in November of 49. And a
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few months later, went to Korea to the front lines.
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And I want to acknowledge my mom, Marilyn, because she
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lived on pins and needles the whole time he was there.
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And they gave me my life. I mean, my dad
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came back
from the war and they adopted me in 59.
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And so I've been blessed to have them as parents
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and my father served proudly. Like the recent gentleman has said,
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They never talk about it. I mean, you know, what
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they did and what they did, especially World War II,
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you were speaking recently with amazing callers that have been
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calling in tonight. They didn't talk about it because they
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didn't have to. They lived through it.
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Yes.
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And I just wanted to acknowledge my dad on Veterans
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Day and all the people who have, you know, been
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veterans in our country. And especially in World War I
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and II, we saved the world. And we need to
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do that more and more in today's time.
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Yeah. And, you know, the good news is, as again,
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and the expert on this was Stephen Ambrose, the late
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great writer, the good news is As bad as things
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are now, as poorly educated as our children are about
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the history of this country and patriotism and respect for
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the armed forces, we've had periods like that in our history. Again,
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that period between World War I and World War II,
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the military was very, very much denigrated in our society
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to an extent that people really can't even fathom today.
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And yet those young men who grew up in that
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00:29:00.250 --> 00:29:04.059
culture saved the world. And And it's important to understand
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it was them. Well, you know, the generals were older.
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It was the captains, lieutenants, and sergeants in World War
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II who made the difference. They usually make the difference.
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The junior officers and the older, and the more senior
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non-commissioned officers. In most wars, that's the case. But in
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World War II, it was really the case. Captains, lieutenants, sergeants,
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they were young. They were young and they saved the world.
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And Just to throw in another very personal thing I'll
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say about this. You know, I'm a sixth generation American.
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But I'm also very much a traditional Jewish American. I
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was very religiously educated and also educated in American history.
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And I often say this when I'm speaking in front
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of a large audience, especially a non-Jewish audience, is that
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no matter what the history of this country is or not,
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I wake up every morning in a country where Christian
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boys saved the Jewish people. It's not why they went
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to war, but the truth is that's the case. And,
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you know, you go to Normandy, and obviously there are
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some Jewish stars there in the cemetery there.
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A few.
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Because, by the way, most of the Jewish soldiers were
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sent to the Pacific Theater because the U.S. government had
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an inkling of what was going on in Germany, and
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they figured, you know, so most Jewish war veterans from
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World War II actually served in the Pacific Theater. But yes,
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there were a couple of Jewish, there were some Jewish
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soldiers who died at Normandy Beach. But honestly, you know,
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it was a sea of Christian boys. And if they
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don't win on D-Day, there's no Jewish people anymore. Okay,
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it's as simple as that. And that needs to be
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acknowledged more often from that standpoint. Again, I'm not saying
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that's why they went. And who knows, but that was
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the result. And that's the important thing. And I say
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this a lot of times to Individual, very religious groups
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also who think that they're just like an enclave community
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in some country that doesn't have anything to do with them.
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00:31:02.779 --> 00:31:05.839
But it just couldn't be further from the truth. But anyway,
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I thank you. Yeah, go ahead.
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And Jake, you know, my family is very close with
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a lot of Holocaust surviving families who were in the
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camps and, you Somehow, and they're very famous people now,
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00:31:23.609 --> 00:31:27.750
they ended up becoming some of the biggest developers in America.
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They came here and they were in the camp together
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and how these two seven-year-old boys lost their families there
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and survived it and came to New York and then
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00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:44.519
New Jersey and lived here and then reconnected and became
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00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:49.160
businessmen starting with nothing. and have gone on to become
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some of the biggest developers in the world. And it's amazing.
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And these were all people who fought for freedom, fought
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against this hate. And I won't keep you from any
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00:32:07.019 --> 00:32:09.700
other calls at this point, but I just wanted to
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call to honor my dad and my mom and and
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all the people who were veterans for our country. And
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I thank you for letting me have the time.
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It was our pleasure. Tommy, in Staten Island, you want
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to talk Veterans Day.
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00:32:23.769 --> 00:32:24.930
How are you, Jake? I want to tell you a
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story about my uncle, but I want to tell you
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something else. First off, during the war, now I had
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four uncles in the service, one in the Navy, three
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in Europe. And the three in Europe were involved, you know,
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with fighting the Germans, of course. But during the battle,
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after the Battle of the Bulge, when they executed our soldiers,
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00:32:47.289 --> 00:32:54.069
the SSS executed unarmed soldiers, after that, a lot of
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00:32:54.089 --> 00:32:59.369
SS soldiers were, let's say, just, they disappeared. And that's
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00:32:59.470 --> 00:33:02.710
a true story. You could ask any real veterans that
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were there. After that incident, there was a lot of
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things that American soldiers did, which they should have, I think.
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00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:12.119
But anyway, I'll tell you the story about this one uncle.
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He was an MP. He was in the Hurricane Forest.
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And he told me, he says, we would always look
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for booze, anything to drink. So anyway, they got a
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bunch of German liquor, and they had a party. And
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he got really sick and all, and he had to
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relieve himself. And they were in the foxhole, and he
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00:33:35.099 --> 00:33:37.980
told his buddy, he goes, listen, I have to go.
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00:33:38.009 --> 00:33:39.930
He says, I'll be right over there. I have to,
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you know, go to the bathroom. So he went. He's
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00:33:42.630 --> 00:33:47.269
doing his business, you know. He's just squatting there. And
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he says all of a sudden he looks up, and
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there's a German lieutenant, like, just standing there. And old
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00:33:54.690 --> 00:33:57.390
Denny's looking around. He said there was like 40 other
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Germans around just standing with rifles all around them. And
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he's like, oh, man, I'm going to die. I'm going
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00:34:02.410 --> 00:34:06.650
to get shot with my pants down. But they wanted
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to surrender. And they were trying. And the German officers
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go in to get a saluger out. And my uncle goes, oh,
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I'm going to be dead. My mom's going to find
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00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:19.840
out how I died. He goes, oh, I can't believe
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00:34:19.860 --> 00:34:22.420
this is going to happen. And he hands him his pistol.
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And now he tells them, oh, you have to wait now.
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00:34:25.849 --> 00:34:29.449
I have to finish what I'm doing because, you know.
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00:34:29.929 --> 00:34:34.699
But he actually brought them all in. It actually was
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a whole company. It was over 200 men that surrendered
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to him. He wound up getting a medal. He wound up,
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it was the whole company. And the dog, there was
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one German shepherd named Fritz. It's a true story. The
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00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.860
story is in the Staten Island Advance in the archives.
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00:34:57.900 --> 00:35:02.920
You can read it. But anyway, he took the officers.
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00:35:03.059 --> 00:35:05.219
He says, you know, he told the lieutenant, he says,
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you know, I want your uniform. He's like, why do
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00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.719
you want to go take it off? I want your uniform.
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00:35:10.449 --> 00:35:13.769
He sent his whole uniform home with all his medals, everything,
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with the hat, everything. And my cousin has it till
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00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:22.340
to this day. But he had that in his living
639
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.340
room till he passed away. And he would tell us
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00:35:25.420 --> 00:35:27.380
all the stories. And it was just, we'd have a
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00:35:27.420 --> 00:35:31.000
lot of laughs. But he has the complete uniform of the,
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00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:34.760
he was a Wehrmacht soldier. And it was just interesting.
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But he actually went in when he was 16 years old.
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And he was telling me, now this is the mentality
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of the people that served in World War II. He
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00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.650
was telling me that you had to serve. You had to.
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Some of three of his friends actually killed themselves that
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couldn't serve because they had medical issues.
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Yeah, the shame was heavy.
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00:35:58.250 --> 00:36:01.030
Oh, it was terrible. It was a mindset. And what
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00:36:01.050 --> 00:36:03.489
you were talking about before, I'm sorry I'm going all over,
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00:36:03.530 --> 00:36:05.030
but you have such a great show.
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00:36:05.050 --> 00:36:05.659
Thank you.
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00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.980
It's about the Christian boys fighting the Jewish people. It's
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00:36:10.219 --> 00:36:13.699
absolutely true. They knew what was going on. My uncle, too,
656
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:17.579
he said after the death camps, things were different, let's say.
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00:36:17.659 --> 00:36:19.820
I can't, you know, you know what I'm saying.
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00:36:20.059 --> 00:36:20.219
Yeah.
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00:36:20.260 --> 00:36:23.659
You know, I wanted to say something. So that scenario
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you talked about with that soldier who encountered all these
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German soldiers who wanted to surrender, you know, we've been
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00:36:30.289 --> 00:36:34.050
talking about war movies. There was a very late contender
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00:36:34.250 --> 00:36:37.489
into this whole thing that I enjoyed. I remember it
664
00:36:37.510 --> 00:36:39.349
came out my senior year of college. It was called
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The Midnight Clear. Listen to this cast. Ethan Hawke. Gary Sinise,
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Kevin Dillon, Aryeh Gross, John C. McGill. Great movie about
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00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.320
just what you were talking about. That period towards the
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end of the war in the Hürtgen Forest, in the
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cold weather there, where a number of the German soldiers
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tried to individually surrender ahead of what Central Command wanted
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them to do. And it's a good movie. It's a
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00:37:04.530 --> 00:37:08.449
good movie and an interesting cast. So you might like that,
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A Midnight Clear movie.
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And then i clear that yet get good will you
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look at the alternative now what why would you want
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to surrender to russians after what they did.
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That's right that's a big week crazy yet they they.
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00:37:20.690 --> 00:37:23.070
They had to listen the russians lost twenty million people
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in war two and they knew exactly what was going
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00:37:25.510 --> 00:37:28.610
on and i really like what they were not naive
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and they they took care of business especially in auschwitz
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and what.
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You said about the jewish people want to get back
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00:37:38.590
to it uh... I hate to say it, but this
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00:37:38.849 --> 00:37:41.289
is starting all up again today, and we have to
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stand for the Jewish country, for Israel, for all Jewish people.
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I mean, what they did when they were just breaking
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all the windows of the Jewish people. I forgot what
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00:37:54.809 --> 00:37:56.300
state that was. It was the other day.
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Philadelphia, yeah.
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This is horrifying. Now this is our turn to stand up.
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I'm a Christian man, and I am a million percent Zionist.
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I vote for what's good for Israel my whole life.
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Well, I appreciate that. And just for everyone else who
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might be a little bit queasy about that, it's not
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necessarily to stand up for the Jewish people. Stand up
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for law and order. Here's a newsflash. You can't break
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a business's windows. You can't graffiti a window. You can't
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punch someone in the face because you don't like their
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politics or you don't like Israel. If you have a
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00:38:31.809 --> 00:38:35.949
city or a state where violence and vandalism is punished,
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no matter who the victim is or who the perpetrator is,
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you won't have anti-Semitism. It's as simple as that. We
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00:38:43.139 --> 00:38:47.559
don't need hate crime laws. We don't need sensitivity training.
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We just need a police force and politicians who say,
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I don't care what your personal grievance is. You can't
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drive a car loaded with explosives into a preschool. How
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about that? Doesn't matter. And we're not ever going to,
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and everyone's going to get the same really heavy punishment.
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That's how you defeat anti-Semitism. Thank you. Thank you, Tommy. Jim,
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00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:12.699
in New York, where are you in New York? Let's see.
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00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:15.699
I'm in upstate New York.
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Go ahead, Jim. You don't want to talk about Veterans Day.
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Go ahead.
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I'm originally from Jersey.
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Yeah, Veterans Day. My grandfather was a double Purple Heart recipient,
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World War II He was wounded at Iwo Jima. My
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great-grandfather was in World War I. I'm 62, the last
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of the baby boomers. My parents are 45. They're the
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first baby boomers, war babies. It's just a country. They
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have this visceral hate for baby boomers. We ruined it
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for them. It's like, This is the country that I
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grew up in versus what it is now. You know,
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growing up watching, you know, Bob Hope and the Andrews
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sisters and Abbott and Costello, everyone rallied around the country
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in a time of war. You know, Vietnam War was controversial.
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My Uncle Danny was, my aunt met him, he was
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a full-blown hippie and, you know, long hair, VW bus,
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but he was a decorated combat sniper in Vietnam. Didn't
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know it, you know.
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You know, what you said is interesting, and this is
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going to sound like a tangent, but it really isn't.
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You know, there is this disdain for everything that's old
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these days in our culture to the point where it's
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gotten to become the theater of the absurds. Some of
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my favorite commercials, because they are very funny, are those
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progressive ads, don't become like your parents with Dr. Rick
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and these people doing stuff because they'll become a homeowner,
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they'll turn into their parents. Have you noticed that every
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one of the so-called bad habits that these people have
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are wonderful habits? Talking to strangers, being encouraging, trying to
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help out, being friendly. That's something to be ashamed of?
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I mean, they're funny commercials, but.
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It's part of the problem.
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Today, kids, you talk to somebody in a store, they
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act like you've got three heads. Just to be friendly.
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They want to be on their phone, texting, everything's the internet.
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And today, with the political climate, a lot of these kids, again,
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a lot of them don't have the work ethic that
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I grew up with. Everything's the internet. And a lot
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of them realize AI is going to take take these
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jobs they're going to college for, a lot of them.
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Well, I think that people with
the real personal touch
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will be able to defeat AI as a job killer.
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I mean, AI has a lot of positive connotations.
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If you're intelligent, you'll find a way to survive.
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Yeah, but I mean, honestly, the latest one of these
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progressive ads has the guy in the back talking... kindly
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and encouragingly to the uber driver like that's a bad
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habit he's like listen you're doing a great job like
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i mean listen again i i get it it's listen
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i laugh i love those commercials and when they have
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new ones out i'm like i get excited because i
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really like them but have you noticed that every one
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of the so-called bad habits you're not supposed to get
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is an endearing kindness i i should be that should
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be the worst thing that everyone has said about me
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like oh yeah You know, dad talked to people in
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the waiting room and tried to calm them down or
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tried to help them find their Starbucks cup when no one,
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you know, what's wrong with that?
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Jeez.
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Anyway, thank you so much for your call. Let's take
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a break. We're almost done with our other side of midnight.
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We'll get a chance to talk to one or two
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of you when we get back. I'm Jake Novak in
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for Walter Sterling. We'll be right back.
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The other side of midnight with Walter Sterling. The Other
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Side of Midnight with Walter Sterling.
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Russ in White Plains. You want to talk about Philadelphia?
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Yeah, Jake. The caller just referred to the breaking of
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glass in Philadelphia the other day. The anniversary of Crystal Knocker.
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There was a dozen bikers in masks. And they picked
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Kristallnacht anniversary to do this. Jake, tell me, doesn't this
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look a lot like Hasbro that some people decided to
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put masks on?
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Oh, you think it's like a false flag? Well, no,
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because they're doing it again. They're doing it again next week.
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You know what? It's, you know, I wish, you know,
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that's the thing. You know, a couple of years, I
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don't know, about a couple of years ago, maybe like
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a gazillion years ago, I would have sought the same thing.
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But sadly, you know, I've been on these campuses. You know,
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I obviously I'm a long time graduated already from these
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kinds of places. But I do go I do a
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lot of reporting on stuff going on in the Ivy League.
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Some of it is just sports. But sadly, these people
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are in abundance. It's real. No one needs to make
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them up. And I thought it was a great moment
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in the way that people showed up very much outnumbered. And,
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you know, you got to be louder than these people.
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I keep telling people. I know you want to go
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to these things and counter-protest with a baseball bat or
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your fists or a gun, but bring a bullhorn. Be
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louder than these people. You've got to be louder than
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them because they're not used to it. They think you're
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going to run and cower, and it's not going to happen. Listen,
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you talk about the small number of people. That's a
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trigger for me because in Hungary, for example— entire neighborhoods
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were rounded up by one guy with the rifle. I mean,
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Oh my God, the second amendment. If you want to
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talk about something that bothers me about the Jewish, my
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fellow Jews, when I'm here, when I meet fellow Jews
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who have, who are squeamish about guns, I want to
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slap them across the face. We live in a country
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where we can arm my dead ancestors. I owe them.
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I owe them one on this. I owe them one
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because honestly, uh, I can arm myself and they can't.
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Teddy and Yonkers, you want to talk Veterans Day?
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Jake, how you doing? Jake, you are the best host
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on WABC Radio. You're perceptive, you're objective, and you criticize
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both sides. And I want to praise you for that.
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That's the first thing I want to say.
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Jake.
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I hope.
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Trump said recently that there's going to be no more
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raids in Iran. No more military action. Well, how the
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hell is he going to determine that Iran will not
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have a nuclear weapon?
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We just got him tonight, though. There were tons of
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raids tonight, I'm happy to say. I mean, this has
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been funny in a lot of ways. I remember him
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very explicitly during the 2016 campaign making fun of the
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Obama administration telling everybody when they were going to attack
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and when they weren't going to attack. And, you know,
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he's already broke, you know, he's already given a lot
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of misdirection on this. So I get so I'm encouraged,
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you know, looks, actions speak louder than words, even when
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you're the president of the United States. And although words
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of a president are much more important than other people,
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but his actions since He's said a few things that
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seem like he's getting a little wishy-washy about the war.
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The actions don't back that up, I'm happy to say.
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We hit Kesham Island. We've hit a number of other targets,
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I think, in the last several hours. I mean, it's
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not full-out war, but it's certainly not the retreat. You
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make a very good point, though. We can't, look, you know,
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this is an impossible situation in a lot of ways.
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We have a regime that will be happy to kill
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every one of their own people and maybe even themselves
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before they surrender. That's something like we haven't seen since
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Nazi Germany. And by the way, there were generals in
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Nazi Germany who were ready to surrender. And Admiral Donitz,
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for example, was ready to do that, but Hitler wouldn't
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allow it. And, you know, there were a lot of
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extra deaths unnecessary. What a lot of Americans don't understand
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is that these people don't think the way we do.
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I'm not making a DNA or racist comment. This is
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a cultural thing. And this is a cultural thing. We're
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dealing with people who are very happy to burn down
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their own lives, their own families, and their own selves.
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And they can't be bought. Some of them can, but
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they can't be bought, and they can't be convinced. And
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I think President Trump knows that. But do you want
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to be the politician to tell the American people, hey, look,
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we're up against this suicidal regime that can't be ever
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negotiated with. We're going to have to go with them.
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I mean, you know, I can understand why I wouldn't
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want to give that message. I get it. Teddy, thank
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you so much for calling, and thank you for your
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kind words. This has been an amazing four hours here
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on the other side of midnight. Again, I want to
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thank my friend, Walter Sterling, who also just always has
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the kindest things to say about me. And he's been
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very kind. I'm glad I got a chance to fill
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in for him this evening. I know it was a
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little bit of a different subject matter tonight, but we
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had fun. We talked bagel. We talked war movies. We
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talked some horrific stuff and we talked some fun stuff.
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It's been a lot of fun. Enjoy this Veterans Day.
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Acknowledge a veteran. Thanks for listening to The Other Side
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of Midnight.
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