התמלול המלא של Ochelli Effect 10-16-2026 Open Mic Friday with B Pete

Dallas, Texas. 41 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.780 Do not go in November if I was you unless 42 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:04.379 you're going to do an independent tour and study. In 43 00:02:04.420 --> 00:02:07.219 which case, I'll be open to taking phone calls and 44 00:02:07.260 --> 00:02:10.500 help you out any which way I can personally if 45 00:02:10.539 --> 00:02:14.199 you do not attend the Judy Baker Conference. There is 46 00:02:14.259 --> 00:02:18.030 my personal offer. Contact me and I will assist you 47 00:02:18.530 --> 00:02:20.169 from afar if you need it. 48 00:02:21.349 --> 00:02:21.729 Anyways. 49 00:02:22.780 --> 00:02:25.599 Back to the fact that it's still October, though. Nice 50 00:02:25.659 --> 00:02:28.919 late cancellation on Lancer, by the way. But anyway, it 51 00:02:29.020 --> 00:02:32.979 is October. It's the 16th, and my struggles continue. I 52 00:02:33.020 --> 00:02:34.560 feel like September never ended. 53 00:02:35.419 --> 00:02:36.039 Hey, wait a minute. 54 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:37.180 I just had a thought. 55 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:43.949 Couldn't you do a walking tour over the phone? I mean, 56 00:02:43.969 --> 00:02:46.210 couldn't you have a bunch of people call into your number, 57 00:02:46.289 --> 00:02:48.189 and when you talk, they would all hear you, and 58 00:02:48.210 --> 00:02:50.330 you could walk them through Dealey Plaza. 59 00:02:50.050 --> 00:02:54.719 And If I had a volunteer on that end who 60 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:58.479 was going to send me the visuals, I would love that. 61 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:00.280 And all they would have to do really is like 62 00:03:00.580 --> 00:03:02.780 tape a GoPro to the front of them. 63 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:03.340 You know what I mean? 64 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:04.479 Like wear a body cam. 65 00:03:04.620 --> 00:03:06.789 They could use the camera on their phone. 66 00:03:07.050 --> 00:03:08.930 Yeah, or they could just carry their phone, but then 67 00:03:08.949 --> 00:03:10.330 they'd have to hold it up the whole time. You 68 00:03:10.349 --> 00:03:10.889 know what I'm saying? 69 00:03:11.849 --> 00:03:14.169 Well, yeah, but you could do a FaceTime and put 70 00:03:14.189 --> 00:03:15.789 them at the head of the group so that they're 71 00:03:15.830 --> 00:03:20.430 walking– while they're walking– You know, they're displaying to you 72 00:03:20.870 --> 00:03:23.460 them walking down the sidewalk and showing the pergola and 73 00:03:23.500 --> 00:03:25.460 showing this and showing that. And you could do the 74 00:03:25.500 --> 00:03:28.520 talking tour. But they would all, yeah, you could just 75 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:30.639 do a massive Facebook chat. 76 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:32.759 I would love to do that. 77 00:03:33.460 --> 00:03:35.750 And just charge like two bucks a head, you know, 78 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:36.710 five bucks a head. 79 00:03:36.909 --> 00:03:38.689 Well, you know what you do? You ask so that 80 00:03:38.710 --> 00:03:39.909 you don't have a business. 81 00:03:39.629 --> 00:03:41.750 Issue or they don't give you crap about, you know, 82 00:03:41.789 --> 00:03:44.370 doing it on a national monument. You know, because it 83 00:03:44.430 --> 00:03:47.310 is part of the park system, Dealey Plaza at this moment. 84 00:03:48.330 --> 00:03:50.310 What you got to do is say, listen, if you 85 00:03:50.590 --> 00:03:54.250 make a two dollar donation, we'll be more than happy 86 00:03:54.389 --> 00:03:57.650 to walk you through, which means we should probably raise 87 00:03:57.689 --> 00:03:59.750 it to about five because a couple of cheapskates ain't 88 00:03:59.780 --> 00:04:00.840 going to kick the two dollars. 89 00:04:01.539 --> 00:04:02.280 You know what I'm saying? 90 00:04:02.740 --> 00:04:04.219 So do a five or ten bucks. 91 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:05.139 Yeah, you do like. 92 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:09.400 Five or ten bucks and you'll have an interactive tour guide. 93 00:04:10.219 --> 00:04:12.620 And that tour guide, I would just need somebody on the. 94 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:14.740 Other end who I would obviously be more than willing 95 00:04:14.780 --> 00:04:16.759 to split some of it with. So, yeah, we might 96 00:04:16.779 --> 00:04:19.680 come up to ten bucks. And you know what? 97 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:23.540 That interactive tour guide would represent me basically via the camera. 98 00:04:24.220 --> 00:04:26.240 Well, I get my cut for coming up with it. 99 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.540 OK, here we go now. Well, maybe you go and 100 00:04:29.579 --> 00:04:30.579 do it. How about that? 101 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:33.560 Oh, no, you don't want that because then you're going 102 00:04:33.579 --> 00:04:35.399 to see footage of me getting arrested when I walk 103 00:04:35.490 --> 00:04:36.850 in on Judy and call her a line. 104 00:04:38.129 --> 00:04:38.589 See where. 105 00:04:38.990 --> 00:04:40.910 Well, weren't you with me when she was up on 106 00:04:40.970 --> 00:04:43.769 stage and everything? I think we controlled ourselves there pretty much, 107 00:04:43.810 --> 00:04:44.120 didn't we? 108 00:04:46.230 --> 00:04:48.769 No, we didn't come across her when I went. 109 00:04:49.209 --> 00:04:51.959 Oh, you weren't there when I was looking at her 110 00:04:52.060 --> 00:04:53.199 on stage and all that. 111 00:04:53.860 --> 00:04:56.360 No, because I guarantee you there would have been a 112 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:58.819 fucking dirt cloud involved in that situation if I was there. 113 00:04:59.060 --> 00:04:59.720 Yeah, you know what? 114 00:04:59.860 --> 00:05:02.670 I was thinking about that. No, we didn't actually run 115 00:05:02.709 --> 00:05:05.129 across her. Oh, you know who it was that was rumored. 116 00:05:04.829 --> 00:05:05.050 To show up? 117 00:05:05.050 --> 00:05:06.970 I would have taken a special dirt cloud, one with 118 00:05:07.009 --> 00:05:07.639 a rock in it. 119 00:05:07.889 --> 00:05:10.730 Yeah, well, you know what? We went in there real quick,

right? 120 00:05:10.949 --> 00:05:14.839 It was you, me, and Ace... And somebody else came 121 00:05:14.860 --> 00:05:16.180 with us. Who was the other guy that came with us? 122 00:05:19.670 --> 00:05:20.269 No, we. 123 00:05:20.689 --> 00:05:22.689 It was your car. No, your car. We went to 124 00:05:22.730 --> 00:05:24.389 Dealey Plaza. Remember, your car. 125 00:05:24.529 --> 00:05:25.389 Yeah, yeah. 126 00:05:25.649 --> 00:05:28.230 And it was Ace, you, me, and somebody else. 127 00:05:29.689 --> 00:05:29.889 Um. 128 00:05:30.430 --> 00:05:31.050 Who was with us? 129 00:05:31.790 --> 00:05:34.810 Who the hell was it? Wasn't Scooter. 130 00:05:35.579 --> 00:05:36.740 No, Scooter was busy. 131 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:40.779 Who was... It was me, you, Ace. 132 00:05:41.689 --> 00:05:44.139 Was it the other podcast guy? 133 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:48.519 Oh, I'm not sure. 134 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:50.579 All right. It might have been. 135 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:51.980 See if I got pictures or something. 136 00:05:52.100 --> 00:05:54.160 It might have been the guy who did the Dallas action. 137 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:54.980 It might have been that guy. 138 00:05:55.939 --> 00:05:56.139 Right. 139 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:59.569 Because he was hanging with us a bit. 140 00:06:00.649 --> 00:06:00.930 Yeah. 141 00:06:01.050 --> 00:06:03.209 Because, you know, this all came from us hanging out 142 00:06:03.230 --> 00:06:05.110 in the smoking section at the freaky hotel. 143 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:07.759 Uh, and then we, uh, it was. 144 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.079 Like Mike Swanson wasn't with us, was he? 145 00:06:10.579 --> 00:06:13.040 I don't think Mike came with us to the plaza. No, 146 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:14.540 cause no, that's right. 147 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:16.319 He wasn't there that morning. I mean, he was, he 148 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:18.360 was getting ready for his right. 149 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:20.319 He was doing breakfast and then he was going to 150 00:06:20.339 --> 00:06:24.660 do a presentation. And, uh, yeah, so no, no, no, 151 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:25.459 it wasn't Mike. 152 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:26.600 Um, maybe it was Dave. 153 00:06:28.290 --> 00:06:31.569 Who was the guy that brought the tea or the coffee, 154 00:06:31.829 --> 00:06:32.470 the cold brew? 155 00:06:32.949 --> 00:06:36.740 Oh, the cold brew. Well, that was Ace. okay yeah 156 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:38.899 ace brought the cold brew we let him crash in 157 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:39.779 our hotel. 158 00:06:39.459 --> 00:06:43.790 If you remember yeah and yeah all right was anybody 159 00:06:43.870 --> 00:06:45.689 i don't i didn't think anybody else was with us. 160 00:06:45.689 --> 00:06:47.910 At all wait did we bring was it doug did 161 00:06:47.949 --> 00:06:50.750 we it might have been doug campbell or we brought 162 00:06:50.769 --> 00:06:52.250 the russian guy i can't remember. 163 00:06:52.050 --> 00:06:58.850 Which hmm that's that's an interesting i i can't. 164 00:06:58.709 --> 00:07:00.569 I know there was a force but it might have 165 00:07:00.589 --> 00:07:02.910 been doug Matter of fact, it would make sense. 166 00:07:02.930 --> 00:07:04.790 I was thinking maybe it was Doug that morning. 167 00:07:04.910 --> 00:07:07.069 Yeah, it might have made sense if it was Doug, actually, 168 00:07:07.129 --> 00:07:09.389 because that actually makes more sense, doesn't it? 169 00:07:10.430 --> 00:07:12.810 Oh, yeah, you know what? Now I recall. It was Doug. 170 00:07:12.829 --> 00:07:15.089 You know why I know that? Because somebody walked up 171 00:07:15.129 --> 00:07:16.910 to him and recognized his voice, remember? 172 00:07:16.930 --> 00:07:18.189 That's right. 173 00:07:18.629 --> 00:07:21.029 Yeah, and that's when we were there. Okay, okay, okay. 174 00:07:21.170 --> 00:07:23.389 Now I got it. Yes, it was Doug, Ace, you, me. 175 00:07:24.470 --> 00:07:27.149 And somebody else drove in a different vehicle. We met 176 00:07:27.230 --> 00:07:29.389 up with them, but then they split off. I forget 177 00:07:29.410 --> 00:07:29.949 who that was. 178 00:07:29.970 --> 00:07:30.110 Yeah. 179 00:07:30.949 --> 00:07:32.810 But that didn't matter because they didn't stick to us. 180 00:07:34.250 --> 00:07:35.949 But anyway, no, we didn't run into. 181 00:07:35.829 --> 00:07:39.329 Judy that day because when we went, Debra was up 182 00:07:39.509 --> 00:07:42.180 on the dais up there on the lawn, right? 183 00:07:43.500 --> 00:07:43.819 Yeah. 184 00:07:44.019 --> 00:07:44.240 Yeah. 185 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:45.459 So she did her. 186 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:47.560 Thing and, you know, people were filming it and all that. 187 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:49.519 And we were just kind of like, you know, politely 188 00:07:49.579 --> 00:07:53.120 staying out of the way. But the following year when 189 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:58.149 I went, yeah, the following year when I went, I 190 00:07:58.189 --> 00:08:02.730 went with Kim. And when I went to the plaza again, uh, 191 00:08:02.730 --> 00:08:06.910 I went there with, uh, yeah, no, I went there 192 00:08:06.930 --> 00:08:08.370 with Ilya, the Russian. 193 00:08:08.129 --> 00:08:11.420 Dude and oof. 194 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:12.819 Yeah. 195 00:08:12.980 --> 00:08:13.740 Judy was there. 196 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:16.379 She was sitting there on, on this, you know, this 197 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:20.100 day is, uh, for the moment of silence and, uh, 198 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.199 Grodin and his wife were up there too. And they 199 00:08:22.230 --> 00:08:24.370 were handing out American flags. You were not with us 200 00:08:24.410 --> 00:08:24.810 that year. 201 00:08:25.470 --> 00:08:26.189 No, I wasn't there. 202 00:08:26.449 --> 00:08:28.910 Oh, God. Oh, it was so horrible. 203 00:08:29.209 --> 00:08:32.100 I was like, And again, I'm sitting there looking at 204 00:08:32.139 --> 00:08:34.370 Grodin like, why are you doing this? But I now 205

00:08:34.470 --> 00:08:38.629 understand what happened with Grodin and what has always happened 206 00:08:38.649 --> 00:08:43.690 with Grodin. And I respect his work, but don't look 207 00:08:43.730 --> 00:08:46.549 to him for endorsements. The guy will endorse anybody he 208 00:08:46.590 --> 00:08:51.039 thinks is getting attention. And because he thinks that all 209 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:52.899 attention is good for the assassination. 210 00:08:53.740 --> 00:08:58.330 He's still got that 1980s mentality, which in the 80s, 211 00:08:58.600 --> 00:08:59.639 that was what it was about. 212 00:09:00.350 --> 00:09:02.029 He's getting up there in age, too. 213 00:09:02.309 --> 00:09:03.250 Well, there's that, too. 214 00:09:03.370 --> 00:09:06.049 You know, and now he does not walk everywhere on 215 00:09:06.090 --> 00:09:08.320 his own and stuff like that. And his wife does 216 00:09:08.549 --> 00:09:13.879 a lot of his speaking for him. But that doesn't 217 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:17.139 diminish what he did in the past. All I'm saying 218 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:19.139 is that he's kind of stuck in the 80s mentality 219 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:23.750 where we needed to get attention. Because, look, I joined 220 00:09:24.179 --> 00:09:28.529 this whole situation in full in like 88 or And 221 00:09:28.789 --> 00:09:31.730 by doing so, look, back then it was about nobody 222 00:09:31.769 --> 00:09:36.250 cares about this anymore. And we need to get public 223 00:09:36.289 --> 00:09:40.610 awareness up. And that led to the thing that snowballed 224 00:09:40.669 --> 00:09:44.629 into what the Oliver Stone movie pushed over, which was, 225 00:09:44.690 --> 00:09:49.529 you know, we need more, you know, transparency. But the 226 00:09:49.570 --> 00:09:52.990 release the files thing that was, you know, frankly, Bill Kelly. 227 00:09:53.990 --> 00:09:57.179 And that group. And that was Bill Kelly's from Jersey. 228 00:09:57.220 --> 00:09:58.789 Guess what? Guess who else was there? 229 00:09:59.450 --> 00:09:59.570 Me. 230 00:10:00.740 --> 00:10:05.259 Okay um yeah what was his what was the organization 231 00:10:05.299 --> 00:10:08.460 he was with that that petered out of doing anything 232 00:10:08.740 --> 00:10:09.480 years ago. 233 00:10:10.419 --> 00:10:13.570 Well bill's okay bill had gotten involved a little bit 234 00:10:13.610 --> 00:10:14.990 with copa for. 235 00:10:14.870 --> 00:10:17.500 A minute copa that was a yeah And that. 236 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:20.039 Was the Coalition on Political Assassinations. 237 00:10:20.100 --> 00:10:20.320 Right. 238 00:10:21.139 --> 00:10:24.889 But the thing about that was that wasn't just JFK focused, 239 00:10:24.950 --> 00:10:27.929 although it was a lot JFK. They also were about 240 00:10:28.029 --> 00:10:30.929 Malcolm X. And, you know, and that's how I ran 241 00:10:30.970 --> 00:10:33.350 into those. That's how I wound up drinking with John 242 00:10:33.409 --> 00:10:35.250 Judge one night is because he

was in New York 243 00:10:35.269 --> 00:10:38.970 because they used to visit Dallas every couple of years. 244 00:10:39.070 --> 00:10:40.490 But they would go to New York and then they 245 00:10:40.509 --> 00:10:44.590 would go to Memphis, you know, for the site of 246 00:10:44.629 --> 00:10:48.840 the King. It's like that's what they did. And they 247 00:10:48.860 --> 00:10:51.220 were thought of as a competing organization to Lancer, but 248 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:57.769 Lancer was mainly, almost exclusively, JFK stuff. But I didn't 249 00:10:57.809 --> 00:10:59.929 want to become involved with either one because it was 250 00:11:00.009 --> 00:11:02.490 a political nightmare of nonsense. 251 00:11:02.970 --> 00:11:04.070 Hey, I've got a question. 252 00:11:04.350 --> 00:11:04.610 Go ahead. 253 00:11:04.809 --> 00:11:06.980 The podcast guys, the year I was there, the guys 254 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.500 I almost got into it with that night, are they 255 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:11.600 still doing their podcasts? 256 00:11:12.730 --> 00:11:13.409 You know, I. 257 00:11:13.370 --> 00:11:16.690 Stopped even bothering to pay attention to them about a 258 00:11:16.730 --> 00:11:17.250 year ago. 259 00:11:17.889 --> 00:11:19.710 But up until a year ago, they were. 260 00:11:20.570 --> 00:11:24.110 I was wondering maybe they would try to capitalize on 261 00:11:24.149 --> 00:11:26.169 Lancer not being there and do their own thing. 262 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:28.100 No, those guys don't want to do any of their 263 00:11:28.139 --> 00:11:33.139 own work. Are you kidding me? You know how much 264 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:34.820 work it is to put on a live event? 265 00:11:35.019 --> 00:11:36.379 They don't want to do that. They just want to 266 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:39.919 be the celebrity show up. You know, they're too good 267 00:11:39.940 --> 00:11:41.259 for doing that nuts and bolts work. 268 00:11:41.299 --> 00:11:41.679 You know that. 269 00:11:42.350 --> 00:11:48.429 They're above it. Because they were so popular. That pissed 270 00:11:48.470 --> 00:11:49.950 me off to no end. 271 00:11:51.889 --> 00:11:54.429 That's why I finally said what I mean. I didn't 272 00:11:54.450 --> 00:11:56.649 mean to, you. 273 00:11:56.610 --> 00:11:58.870 Know, unsettle the whole crowd, but I just finally had 274 00:11:58.889 --> 00:12:00.289 to tell him to shut the fuck up. 275 00:12:01.389 --> 00:12:01.629 Yeah. 276 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:06.179 Oh, I don't know. They got on my last nerve. 277 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:08.519 I was trying to listen. You couldn't even hear the 278 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:11.340 person up at the front of the room. for them 279 00:12:11.379 --> 00:12:14.220 carrying on yeah that was a couple there was a 280 00:12:14.259 --> 00:12:18.100 couple i was sitting with that i all i got 281 00:12:18.179 --> 00:12:20.509 ready to stand up and the guy kind of put 282 00:12:20.529 --> 00:12:24.570 his hand on my leg like no don't but it 283 00:12:24.929 --> 00:12:26.809 those guys those clowns i swear to. 284 00:12:26.789 --> 00:12:35.879 God yeah they are they are still active yes completely Uh, 285 00:12:36.059 --> 00:12:36.799 just letting you know. 286 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:37.100 Yeah. 287 00:12:37.179 --> 00:12:40.940 And they're even like using AI videos to redistribute their stuff. 288 00:12:40.980 --> 00:12:45.179 They've got, yeah, they're there, but they, but you know what? 289 00:12:45.539 --> 00:12:50.690 Anybody that survives on YouTube is, is not normal. I look, 290 00:12:50.789 --> 00:12:54.269 we all, we all partake in YouTube, but if you 291 00:12:54.330 --> 00:12:58.889 survive as a YouTuber at this point, um, you, you, 292 00:12:59.049 --> 00:13:02.679 you have to use phrases like unalived and all that nonsense, right? 293 00:13:03.029 --> 00:13:06.950 Well, unless you're the chosen few like, you know, Candace Owens. 294 00:13:07.029 --> 00:13:08.129 You can get away with anything. 295 00:13:08.649 --> 00:13:10.220 Yeah, but I don't think she can get away with 296 00:13:10.250 --> 00:13:12.019 that much on YouTube. 297 00:13:12.059 --> 00:13:12.580 She has. 298 00:13:13.659 --> 00:13:16.679 Every one of her episodes runs on YouTube. She's not 299 00:13:16.740 --> 00:13:18.919 had any taken down unless she's taken them down herself 300 00:13:18.980 --> 00:13:19.940 because she got caught in. 301 00:13:19.870 --> 00:13:20.590 A lie somewhere. 302 00:13:21.129 --> 00:13:21.450 Really? 303 00:13:21.850 --> 00:13:25.850 Yeah, she's had no problems with her monetization on YouTube whatsoever. 304 00:13:27.299 --> 00:13:31.039 Well, then that does point to the absolute fact that 305 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:32.700 there is a privilege. 306 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:36.940 She's paying somebody big money to keep her ass platformed. 307 00:13:37.100 --> 00:13:38.039 Yeah, but here's the thing. 308 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:42.370 Even when these guys generate lots of revenue on the platforms, 309 00:13:42.409 --> 00:13:47.210 they'll still cut them off. You know, Alex Jones used 310 00:13:47.250 --> 00:13:50.980 to generate tons for any platform he was on. 311 00:13:52.100 --> 00:13:52.379 Right. 312 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:54.559 But Alex Jones got caught up in court and he 313 00:13:54.620 --> 00:13:58.740 came back and it hammered him. Candace now, after these 314 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:02.840 two court cases she's got coming up, she loses those. 315 00:14:03.379 --> 00:14:04.460 You might see him crack down. 316 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:08.460 Yeah, but he was banned before those those judgments and 317 00:14:08.539 --> 00:14:11.299 his bans came up because he did stupid things. 318 00:14:12.100 --> 00:14:17.799 He literally threatened violence against a public person, which, you know, 319 00:14:17.870 --> 00:14:20.549 has always been a terms of service issue. 320 00:14:21.419 --> 00:14:24.539 On every platform. It's legally actionable if you make a 321 00:14:24.600 -->

00:14:26.490 threat in public on a public platform. 322 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:29.049 I'm aware of that, but see, Candace hasn't done that yet, 323 00:14:29.169 --> 00:14:32.710 and she's not had a single issue with YouTube. Everything 324 00:14:32.750 --> 00:14:36.309 she does gets posted there. She makes her money off 325 00:14:36.409 --> 00:14:38.970 of it. They've not taken any down, and she has not. 326 00:14:39.509 --> 00:14:42.850 She doesn't have to use the word unalive. She's accused 327 00:14:43.350 --> 00:14:47.299 Erica Kirk of killing her husband. on her episodes, and 328 00:14:47.340 --> 00:14:50.679 they're still up there, and they're still getting a million views. 329 00:14:50.860 --> 00:14:54.120 On YouTube, huh? Well, you know, here we go again, though. 330 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:57.559 It's selective enforcement, and I don't know what the privileged 331 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:59.360 class gets anymore. 332 00:14:59.379 --> 00:15:01.080 I'm just wondering how much it cost her. 333 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:04.179 Has she given up more than the normal split? 334 00:15:06.139 --> 00:15:07.679 To be frank with you, I don't know, because I 335 00:15:07.700 --> 00:15:09.399 don't know anybody on that side of the fence. 336 00:15:11.429 --> 00:15:12.669 You know, she's getting away. 337 00:15:13.230 --> 00:15:16.389 Something is not right for her to have no strikes 338 00:15:17.450 --> 00:15:19.669 in the past year, especially in the past year. 339 00:15:19.850 --> 00:15:23.169 Well, especially because she's saying slanderous crap. I mean, maybe 340 00:15:23.190 --> 00:15:26.000 she's got bans in other nations. 341 00:15:26.899 --> 00:15:28.799 I mean, I'm still she does. 342 00:15:29.019 --> 00:15:31.639 I'm still waiting for her to get to hear the 343 00:15:31.700 --> 00:15:35.279 results of her trying to get her Macron lawsuit dismissed. 344 00:15:35.539 --> 00:15:38.320 Yeah, well, that was months ago that they went to 345 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:38.879 that hearing. 346 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:44.620 See, Ocelli Effect is literally a banned podcast in Germany. 347 00:15:47.659 --> 00:15:49.950 And I've never gotten an explanation for it, but we're 348 00:15:49.990 --> 00:15:56.330 banned in Germany. So you can tap into the stream, 349 00:15:56.470 --> 00:15:59.009 like somebody could listen to me live in Germany, but 350 00:16:00.129 --> 00:16:03.100 you try to go to my podcast and the websites 351 00:16:03.129 --> 00:16:08.370 are restricted. So even if you go to Apple.com, in 352 00:16:08.409 --> 00:16:11.350 Germany to go get my podcast like in the normal 353 00:16:11.389 --> 00:16:16.509 way I've got zero German downloads and yeah and somebody 354 00:16:16.529 --> 00:16:20.899 showed me a screenshot of the German government has deemed 355 00:16:20.940 --> 00:16:24.620 this I forget exactly how it was put but when 356 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:27.960 it was translated from the German into English it was 357 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:29.299 like the German government. 358 00:16:28.980 --> 00:16:34.139 Has deemed this podcast against you know national laws in 359 00:16:34.179 --> 00:16:38.039 our country So I have broken some law in Germany 360 00:16:38.379 --> 00:16:43.039 that got my podcast jammed, and nobody ever even informed me. 361 00:16:45.460 --> 00:16:47.500 But that's the only place where I know I'm banned 362 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:53.070 in a nation state. But you know about my YouTube 363 00:16:53.110 --> 00:16:56.370 ban as well, where I had my channel taken down. 364 00:16:56.409 --> 00:17:02.720 I had it restored various times, right? And and even 365 00:17:02.740 --> 00:17:05.240 when they gave the amnesty over the listen, we messed 366 00:17:05.299 --> 00:17:08.480 up a little over the medical misinformation issue, which. 367 00:17:08.349 --> 00:17:11.369 Was part of what got my channel banned. I got 368 00:17:11.529 --> 00:17:13.150 zero response from my appeal. 369 00:17:14.049 --> 00:17:17.690 Zero. My appeal just timed out. Nothing. 370 00:17:19.730 --> 00:17:22.940 And then when I sent in a you can send 371 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:26.460 in a message after your appeal times out. And basically 372 00:17:26.500 --> 00:17:29.319 complain about that. And when I did that, I basically 373 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:31.880 got a message back that said, you know, our decision 374 00:17:31.900 --> 00:17:33.599 was already made and we're standing by it. 375 00:17:35.740 --> 00:17:37.339 Someone in the room wants to know what the calling 376 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:37.759 number is. 377 00:17:38.180 --> 00:17:41.240 Oh, yes, because I haven't given it out. That's true. 378 00:17:41.259 --> 00:17:41.319 319-527-5016. 379 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:41.960 That is the call-in number. 380 00:17:41.980 --> 00:17:42.039 319-527-5016. 381 00:17:42.049 --> 00:17:43.900 And normally I give it out 10 times and nobody 382 00:17:43.980 --> 00:17:44.829 calls anyway at the beginning. 383 00:17:44.849 --> 00:17:44.920 319-527-5016. 384 00:17:44.930 --> 00:17:45.589 That's correct. 385 00:17:45.609 --> 00:17:45.670 319-527-5016. 386 00:17:45.750 --> 00:17:47.849 And it's always the same call-in number, by the way. 387 00:17:47.970 --> 00:17:49.349 They just bounced out. 388 00:17:49.390 --> 00:17:49.650 Sure. 389 00:18:09.390 --> 00:18:09.930 No problem. 390 00:18:09.950 --> 00:18:12.329 But I pay to keep that number all the time. 391 00:18:12.769 --> 00:18:15.410 We actually have international numbers that people can call if 392 00:18:15.450 --> 00:18:18.450 somebody actually asks me for a particular country. I have 393 00:18:18.470 --> 00:18:20.829 them for particular countries, so it's a local call too. 394 00:18:22.289 --> 00:18:26.009 But I never give those out because our live listenership 395 00:18:26.069 --> 00:18:28.730 in other countries is very low. But the ironic thing 396 00:18:28.769 --> 00:18:31.150 about that German ban that I was telling you about 397 00:18:31.369

--> 00:18:35.170 is that there is a pub or a restaurant, depending 398 00:18:35.230 --> 00:18:38.480 on how it's been described to me, that puts us 399 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:44.019 on That puts on my my stream and usually does 400 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:46.680 it on Friday nights. So, I mean, actually, I should 401 00:18:46.700 --> 00:18:48.710 probably go check right now. They might have us on 402 00:18:48.750 --> 00:18:52.890 right now in Germany. Oh, but only but that's the 403 00:18:52.910 --> 00:18:55.130 only way you can get us because the live stream 404 00:18:55.170 --> 00:18:56.190 has not been banned. 405 00:18:57.410 --> 00:19:02.480 But the podcasts have. Anyways, let me take a look. 406 00:19:02.500 --> 00:19:04.059 It would be nice if we were on in Germany 407 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.440 because I like Germany. I had a blast when I 408 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:06.920 was over there. 409 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:10.380 No, I got no problem with Germany. I'm just saying. Listen, 410 00:19:10.420 --> 00:19:13.029 I have no idea what the problem Germany has with 411 00:19:13.049 --> 00:19:13.440 me is. 412 00:19:14.380 --> 00:19:17.150 Germany's got problems with a lot of things like that, though. 413 00:19:17.190 --> 00:19:20.130 They've got to be uber correct. 414 00:19:20.990 --> 00:19:24.710 Well, okay, yeah, but I'm not even– see, the baffling 415 00:19:24.769 --> 00:19:28.069 thing to me, Is that, although I know there's lots 416 00:19:28.130 --> 00:19:31.089 of guys like me who have gone all in on the, 417 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:36.759 you know, apologetics, let's call it, for German history. Okay, 418 00:19:36.819 --> 00:19:37.799 I'm trying to be nice here. 419 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:42.160 Where they say a certain chancellor might have been a hero, 420 00:19:42.259 --> 00:19:45.950 not a villain in history. I don't do that. I'm 421 00:19:45.970 --> 00:19:50.980 not that guy. I'm not the uh, pro, um, uh, 422 00:19:51.059 --> 00:19:52.200 crooked cross guy. 423 00:19:52.380 --> 00:19:55.980 You know what I'm saying? It's never been me. I'm 424 00:19:56.019 --> 00:20:00.910 not an anti-Semite of any type. I absolutely object to 425 00:20:00.930 --> 00:20:04.430 the nation state of Israel, but it is not for 426 00:20:04.470 --> 00:20:08.049 that reason. I have other issues here. And I have 427 00:20:08.089 --> 00:20:10.359 a weird point of view that doesn't match up with 428 00:20:10.390 --> 00:20:14.450 basically anybody's where, yeah, I think it's been over the top. 429 00:20:14.579 --> 00:20:16.119 And I think there's a lot of things that could 430 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:18.319 be said about it. And I really do not care 431 00:20:18.460 --> 00:20:21.799 about this idea that it was bequeathed to them by 432 00:20:21.859 --> 00:20:24.640 God or whatever it is you want to call it. 433 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:29.289 No. Sorry, but I don't care what your book says 434 00:20:29.369 --> 00:20:31.910 or anything else or what you claim God said. 435 00:20:33.589 --> 00:20:33.809 No. 436 00:20:34.470 --> 00:20:34.859 Okay. 437 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:38.160 And look, if we were to rewind things to where 438 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:40.940 the gods declared certain things, there'd be a lot of 439 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:43.039 people having to evacuate a lot of lands all over 440 00:20:43.059 --> 00:20:43.420 the place. 441 00:20:44.660 --> 00:20:50.930 So, you know, things change over time. Anyways. 442 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:54.319 Point is, I'm not one of those guys who is 443 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:58.819 screaming about, you know, the Jews. And I'm not just 444 00:20:58.859 --> 00:20:59.500 talking O.J. 445 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:00.799 You know what I'm saying? 446 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:05.059 And yet, and I know if you do that on 447 00:21:05.099 --> 00:21:08.869 German airwaves, you got problems. If you do something pro 448 00:21:08.890 --> 00:21:13.369 a particular chancellor from the 20th century, they will ban 449 00:21:13.390 --> 00:21:15.349 you and maybe even jail you in Germany. 450 00:21:15.450 --> 00:21:18.529 OK, they don't want to hear that. But I never 451 00:21:18.569 --> 00:21:20.309 did that. I don't understand. 452 00:21:21.509 --> 00:21:23.049 Anyways, I'm going to go take a look and see 453 00:21:23.089 --> 00:21:25.869 if our friends in Germany are listening, though, because I'd 454 00:21:25.910 --> 00:21:27.970 love for them to keep listening because they put us 455 00:21:28.109 --> 00:21:29.410 on in that restaurant, man. 456 00:21:29.490 --> 00:21:36.460 And it's cool. I like it. Oh, they are on. Well, 457 00:21:37.019 --> 00:21:43.440 guten tag. OK, and look, I love you guys. I 458 00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:46.680 am so, so happy. Enjoy your food. Enjoy your drink 459 00:21:47.809 --> 00:21:50.589 and enjoy the English because I don't speak enough German 460 00:21:50.630 --> 00:21:51.130 to talk to you. 461 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:56.420 But I love you. And they will leave this on now. Actually, 462 00:21:56.519 --> 00:21:59.000 they have been on my live stream now for a 463 00:21:59.900 --> 00:22:00.460 couple hours. 464 00:22:02.329 --> 00:22:06.349 So you guys are actually hearing the live show on Friday, 465 00:22:06.369 --> 00:22:09.390 the 16th of October. 466 00:22:09.509 --> 00:22:12.890 And you guys were listening to repeats before that. So 467 00:22:13.470 --> 00:22:15.920 appreciate you when you're actually hearing a live discussion. And 468 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:17.640 we were just talking about you and I didn't realize 469 00:22:17.660 --> 00:22:20.579 you were listening. but I'd say the same thing no 470 00:22:20.599 --> 00:22:22.559 matter if you were listening or not, except I did 471 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:28.799 say hello. But other than that, man, no. German, listen, 472 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:36.009 German ingenuity and integrity and toughness, these are things I 473 00:22:36.069 --> 00:22:39.789 cannot deny. Matter of fact, I got a

little pissed off. 474 00:22:39.809 --> 00:22:43.380 I almost got myself a A couple of collector cards, because, 475 00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:45.539 you know, I've been collecting the baseball cards a bit, 476 00:22:45.579 --> 00:22:46.960 and I'm working up to, I'm going to do a 477 00:22:46.980 --> 00:22:48.079 live stream and start. 478 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:49.420 Selling those on whatnot. 479 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:54.279 But, you know, they make collector cards for everything. And 480 00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:58.980 Max Schmeling and Max Baer are two boxers that I 481 00:22:59.029 --> 00:23:03.450 appreciate historically. Of course, there have been many great German boxers, 482 00:23:03.910 --> 00:23:06.049 and most of which the Western world, the rest of 483 00:23:06.069 --> 00:23:07.869 the Western world doesn't even get to hear about. But 484 00:23:07.910 --> 00:23:08.650 those two guys. 485 00:23:10.069 --> 00:23:14.430 Are incredibly interesting figures in history, especially Schmeling. It was 486 00:23:14.470 --> 00:23:17.750 kind of used by certain people, et cetera, but Max 487 00:23:17.789 --> 00:23:21.539 Baer also. And I saw some collector cards recently because 488 00:23:21.579 --> 00:23:22.759 I like the boxing cards. 489 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:25.579 You know they make boxing cards too, right, BP? 490 00:23:26.819 --> 00:23:30.259 Yeah, they make cards on– if it moves, they'll make 491 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:30.720 a card. 492 00:23:30.940 --> 00:23:33.500 That's right. But they always made boxing cards. 493 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:36.079 People don't realize– as a matter of fact, the oldest 494 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:40.970 card I own– Is a boxing card. It's from 1909. 495 00:23:41.470 --> 00:23:46.000 And I do have. It is one of the heavyweight champions. 496 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:48.880 But I can't remember which one. That I have is 497 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:51.740 the best card I have from 1909. I mean it's 498 00:23:51.779 --> 00:23:54.220 not perfect. It's not a million dollar card or nothing 499 00:23:54.259 --> 00:23:56.140 like that. But I just think it's cool because it's old. 500 00:23:56.900 --> 00:23:59.789 And these guys were just coming out of the bare-fisted 501 00:23:59.849 --> 00:24:03.029 age of boxing. You know where they could fight for 502 00:24:03.029 --> 00:24:05.450 35 rounds. And stuff like that. 503 00:24:05.549 --> 00:24:06.109 Bare knuckle. 504 00:24:07.500 --> 00:24:11.890 People used to do that, and I appreciate the honesty 505 00:24:12.069 --> 00:24:14.490 of one-on-one combat between two people. 506 00:24:15.750 --> 00:24:18.769 In a sporting way. Not to try and kill each other, 507 00:24:19.049 --> 00:24:20.950 even though people do die occasionally doing it. 508 00:24:22.410 --> 00:24:24.779 I don't want to see people damaged or killed, but 509 00:24:25.539 --> 00:24:29.140 it is impressive to me when someone is proficient at 510 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:32.839 doing so, especially within the confines of the Marcus and 511 00:24:32.859 --> 00:24:33.660 Queensberry rules. 512 00:24:34.619 --> 00:24:35.559 So I like boxing. 513 00:24:36.549 --> 00:24:39.869 It's scientific in my mind, but it's also a test 514 00:24:39.910 --> 00:24:41.930 of the character of the individual that's in the ring 515 00:24:43.730 --> 00:24:46.130 and a test of their physicality, et cetera, et cetera. 516 00:24:46.190 --> 00:24:49.440 But it's a unique thing. You have no one else 517 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.619 to rely on except your corner men. 518 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:53.900 Who are helpful and important. 519 00:24:54.619 --> 00:24:56.519 But at the end of the day, you either got 520 00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:59.839 the heart and the strength or you don't. And some 521 00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:01.880 days there are guys that just have a bad day. 522 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:04.500 I mean, Mike Tyson getting knocked out by Buster Douglas 523 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.069 in Japan and That was a bad day for Mike 524 00:25:07.130 --> 00:25:10.740 Tyson because that guy was a mechanized killing machine in 525 00:25:10.779 --> 00:25:14.950 the ring at one point. I mean, super crazy. And 526 00:25:15.049 --> 00:25:16.769 I mean, I even tried to box a little bit, 527 00:25:16.849 --> 00:25:19.900 which I know sounds stupid. But, you know, that was 528 00:25:19.980 --> 00:25:22.980 part of my therapy, allegedly. Anyways, I do see that 529 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:24.500 we have a caller, BP. So I'm going to go 530 00:25:24.539 --> 00:25:26.619 right to him because we haven't been on any deep 531 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.180 subjects for sure. So, hey, look, the floor is open 532 00:25:30.299 --> 00:25:33.250 and you can join in and talk about anything you want. 533 00:25:33.269 --> 00:25:40.849 319-527-5016. And all I know about this caller is that 534 00:25:40.869 --> 00:25:44.500 they're from Florida. So, you're live. 535 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:47.519 Long time no speak. 536 00:25:47.900 --> 00:25:53.869 Hey, there you are. How you been? All right. 537 00:25:53.890 --> 00:25:54.450 How about yourself? 538 00:25:54.789 --> 00:25:58.549 Well, you know, it's been fun trying to recover from 539 00:25:58.569 --> 00:25:59.609 the car wreck last year. 540 00:26:00.589 --> 00:26:02.650 I am still slowly healing, brother. 541 00:26:03.549 --> 00:26:09.789 I am absolutely dumbfounded by the slow healing process that 542 00:26:09.829 --> 00:26:13.099 I've had to go through at the age of 54. 543 00:26:13.109 --> 00:26:16.670 Yeah, that's too big. I expected the other one to get. 544 00:26:16.710 --> 00:26:19.890 I had a ladder incident probably a couple months ago, 545 00:26:19.930 --> 00:26:21.569 and I'm still healing from that one. 546 00:26:22.170 --> 00:26:24.250 Yeah, see, a couple of months falling off a ladder, 547 00:26:24.289 --> 00:26:27.200 I would understand. But I'll tell you the truth. It 548 00:26:27.220 --> 00:26:29.900 took me several months just to get to

walking to 549 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:34.819 take a full step, right? And frankly, I was starting 550 00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.019 to feel a little bit better, still weak, but I 551 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:38.960 was getting my mobility back. 552 00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:42.140 And then I tipped over in my stupid desk chair. 553 00:26:43.539 --> 00:26:45.789 And I got to be frank with you, that set 554 00:26:45.849 --> 00:26:48.829 me back to, you know, that took six months of 555 00:26:48.869 --> 00:26:52.990 my healing away, falling in a desk chair. I mean, 556 00:26:53.069 --> 00:26:56.470 this is not good. I mean, I repaired the broken 557 00:26:56.529 --> 00:27:00.890 bone in the neck. I feel confident that that's okay. 558 00:27:00.970 --> 00:27:03.500 The discs appear to be sort of back in place 559 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:05.980 and no longer ruptured in my back. 560 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:06.799 That's nice. 561 00:27:07.539 --> 00:27:09.579 But I still got a gut rupture and a few 562 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:11.839 other things, and I have not regained any of my 563 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:12.539 freaking strength. 564 00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:17.859 So I am not pleased. But anyway, since you asked, 565 00:27:17.900 --> 00:27:21.380 there you go. But how have you been? How's the ladder? And, 566 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:23.980 you know, a couple of months, I would be so 567 00:27:24.019 --> 00:27:25.680 grateful if it only took me a couple of months 568 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:26.180 to recover. 569 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.160 I haven't recovered yet. I've still got some. 570 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.579 I'm not trying to compare, you know, go into comparison 571 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:38.759 with you. The lower back is what's, I don't know, 572 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:42.619 just been saddled with, you know, never have them. 573 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:49.380 Hollering pain, essentially. It's always there in the back, man. 574 00:27:49.420 --> 00:27:53.059 There's not much you can do to solve it, but 575 00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:54.200 it is what it is, man. 576 00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:57.269 Gotcha, gotcha. Did you have any back issues before you fell, 577 00:27:57.390 --> 00:27:59.869 or was it like a completely good back and now 578 00:27:59.950 --> 00:28:01.190 it's all screwed up? 579 00:28:01.210 --> 00:28:02.009 I don't know. 580 00:28:02.190 --> 00:28:07.369 I had upper back issues from when I was a teen. 581 00:28:07.549 --> 00:28:10.569 A young teen got into a car accident on the 582 00:28:10.609 --> 00:28:14.250 interstate and had some... Issues from whiplash. So I've always 583 00:28:14.289 --> 00:28:17.539 had issues from that. But the lower back, that's. And 584 00:28:17.579 --> 00:28:20.019 then also, plus, I work, you know, I work in 585 00:28:20.059 --> 00:28:24.359 the construction industry. So, you know, I'm always lifting shit 586 00:28:24.380 --> 00:28:25.380 that I shouldn't be lifting. 587 00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:29.579 And you're always taking minor injuries in construction anyway, because 588 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:31.599 I did everything. Believe it or not, I did everything 589 00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:35.299 from demolition to roofing. And I know that sounds crazy 590 00:28:35.339 --> 00:28:37.700 being blind as hell. And I also was a glass glazier. 591 00:28:37.769 --> 00:28:41.369 So I did whatever it is I could find to do. 592 00:28:42.259 --> 00:28:46.349 But but I would not even attempt it nowadays. Not 593 00:28:46.369 --> 00:28:49.009 in my physical condition. And at a certain point, a 594 00:28:49.069 --> 00:28:50.970 lot of these guys give up. I mean, you know, 595 00:28:51.009 --> 00:28:53.089 and they become the boss who stays on the ground 596 00:28:53.250 --> 00:28:56.269 and tells everybody else how to do stuff. Because guess what? 597 00:28:56.369 --> 00:28:59.339 They've taken a couple of falls. I mean, I took 598 00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:00.980 a fall out of the side of a house when 599 00:29:01.019 --> 00:29:05.180 I was a teenager. accidentally, I find, find it kind 600 00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:08.650 of comical what happened actually. But, uh, I, I basically, 601 00:29:08.690 --> 00:29:11.210 I was trying to bust a freaking bolted down, uh, 602 00:29:11.569 --> 00:29:14.410 one of those old fashioned, you know, metal radiators. And 603 00:29:14.450 --> 00:29:17.869 I was instructed break the bolts in the floor with 604 00:29:18.069 --> 00:29:21.619 a sledgehammer. Uh, that's what I was told to do. 605 00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:22.440 I did that. 606 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:24.559 The floor gave way and part of the chunk of 607 00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:26.460 the wall gave way. And, uh, I went out the 608 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.680 side of the house with the wall. Um, and, And 609 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.349 when I landed, that sucked and knocked the wind out 610 00:29:33.390 --> 00:29:33.569 of me. 611 00:29:34.630 --> 00:29:35.029 Okay. 612 00:29:35.509 --> 00:29:36.470 It gave me a need. 613 00:29:36.329 --> 00:29:38.779 For a long lunch break. And I was sore the 614 00:29:38.819 --> 00:29:41.809 next day. But falling out of the side of a 615 00:29:41.829 --> 00:29:44.569 house at 20 ain't so bad. Falling down the steps 616 00:29:44.670 --> 00:29:47.880 at 54, I don't know if I'd make it. You 617 00:29:47.890 --> 00:29:51.859 know what I'm saying? It's a whole other world. Anyway, sorry, 618 00:29:52.740 --> 00:29:56.000 I'm talking about me and I shouldn't. What's on your mind, brother? 619 00:29:56.019 --> 00:29:57.680 I mean, is there anything in particular or you just 620 00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:00.359 wanted to kind of like hang and just BS and 621 00:30:00.420 --> 00:30:01.259 jump in here and there? 622 00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:06.180 I figured I'm past here for hanging. But I did 623 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:06.940 want to jump in. 624 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.460 I don't know if you guys have touched on this subject. 625 00:30:11.039 -->

00:30:15.589 Have you all seen the Tesla Roadster footage? 626 00:30:16.769 --> 00:30:18.670 The what footage? I'm sorry. 627 00:30:19.730 --> 00:30:20.490 Tesla Roadster. 628 00:30:20.529 --> 00:30:20.950 The new Tesla. 629 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.000 Oh, the test to where this thing supposedly just, you know, 630 00:30:25.180 --> 00:30:27.009 jumping around by compressed air. 631 00:30:28.170 --> 00:30:31.950 Oh, he's got is it supposedly he's got a flying 632 00:30:31.990 --> 00:30:34.089 car now or was he just doing. 633 00:30:33.849 --> 00:30:35.650 Like I mean, shit, I wouldn't call it. 634 00:30:35.660 --> 00:30:36.000 I'm sorry. 635 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.640 I'm not trying to turn the right by my language. But, no, 636 00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:42.140 I wouldn't consider it a flying car. But, I mean, 637 00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:46.059 I wouldn't consider it real by looking at the video footage. 638 00:30:46.140 --> 00:30:47.829 It looks like AI slop to me. 639 00:30:48.329 --> 00:30:51.150 Oh, yeah, no, I saw, okay, I saw something on X, 640 00:30:51.450 --> 00:30:53.170 and I didn't pay a lot of attention to it, 641 00:30:53.210 --> 00:30:55.569 but it was like, look, Tesla's got a flying car. 642 00:30:56.369 --> 00:30:59.950 And I looked at, like, a three-second clip and decided 643 00:31:00.009 --> 00:31:01.809 the same thing that you did, which is that this 644 00:31:01.890 --> 00:31:03.309 is obviously AI slop. 645 00:31:05.029 --> 00:31:07.309 Do you know how many mainstream X accounts, and I 646 00:31:07.329 --> 00:31:11.990 know we can't preface everything, base everything off of these 647 00:31:12.109 --> 00:31:16.910 big X accounts, off of their opinion, but good lord, 648 00:31:17.150 --> 00:31:20.329 the amount of freaking people that I'm seeing that seem 649 00:31:20.369 --> 00:31:22.990 to be subscribing to this bullshit, it's no different, in 650 00:31:23.029 --> 00:31:28.549 my opinion, to when we watch the supposed SpaceX landing, 651 00:31:28.569 --> 00:31:34.910 to where the shuttle somehow miraculously lands You know, just 652 00:31:34.990 --> 00:31:36.059 slowly coming down. 653 00:31:36.740 --> 00:31:37.440 On its bottom. 654 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:39.549 Oh, yeah, perfectly, right? 655 00:31:40.150 --> 00:31:44.509 You know what I mean? To me, my bullshit detector 656 00:31:44.630 --> 00:31:47.670 just rings, you know, out the roof, you know, like 657 00:31:47.710 --> 00:31:48.410 a fire alarm. 658 00:31:48.430 --> 00:31:48.970 You know what I mean? 659 00:31:49.269 --> 00:31:51.670 No, I hear you. The one you might be, are 660 00:31:51.690 --> 00:31:54.279 you talking about the one that, like, clearly they reversed 661 00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:55.519 the footage, that one? 662 00:31:55.940 --> 00:31:56.259 Yes. 663 00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:57.880 Okay, because that was like. 664 00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:01.259 But then you had, yeah, the same type of people 665 00:32:01.299 --> 00:32:03.740 that are running with this

bull crap or running with, 666 00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:05.640 you know, they ran with that one. 667 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:06.420 You know what I mean? 668 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:08.720 Well, because I didn't dig into it, let me ask 669 00:32:08.769 --> 00:32:13.369 you something about it. Is Elon's account like pushing this, 670 00:32:13.529 --> 00:32:14.750 or is it other people pushing it? 671 00:32:14.750 --> 00:32:17.470 As far as I know, I mean, the guys, I mean, there's, 672 00:32:18.029 --> 00:32:21.599 you know, yeah, I mean, you see so many Elon accounts, 673 00:32:21.690 --> 00:32:23.859 it's hard to keep track of the actual legit one. 674 00:32:24.180 --> 00:32:25.660 Well, there is a bear. 675 00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.940 I'm pretty sure that the actual Elon is affiliated with 676 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.940 the pushing of this new video for the Tesla. 677 00:32:32.099 --> 00:32:34.660 It seems to be like a Pay it for motion. 678 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.759 Maybe they're trying to pump and dump some stocks, you know, 679 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:38.829 here in the near future. 680 00:32:39.049 --> 00:32:42.150 Well, see, that's another thing where even if it is BS, 681 00:32:42.269 --> 00:32:45.390 he might push it anyway because it just makes him 682 00:32:45.450 --> 00:32:49.230 into an AI Superman. You know, it's sort of like that. 683 00:32:50.049 --> 00:32:55.109 There was footage of like guys flying like Superman and 684 00:32:55.630 --> 00:32:57.980 people took it seriously a couple of years ago. But 685 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.890 it was, you know, Adobe Audition that did it. You know, 686 00:33:00.910 --> 00:33:03.809 sort of like the lightsaber battles. And there are still 687 00:33:03.869 --> 00:33:06.210 idiots out there that believe they saw a man fly. 688 00:33:06.910 --> 00:33:10.549 You know what I'm saying? I'm just telling you, if 689 00:33:10.589 --> 00:33:12.509 they seen it on a video, it must be real. 690 00:33:14.529 --> 00:33:18.130 You know, like like like the muscular Trump. There's people 691 00:33:18.170 --> 00:33:21.410 that think that Trump is built like, you know, Sly 692 00:33:21.430 --> 00:33:23.000 Stallone was for the Rambo movies. 693 00:33:23.980 --> 00:33:26.039 Because you have you seen that? 694 00:33:28.309 --> 00:33:34.279 No, I haven't personally seen that one. Nothing surprises me anymore, Chuck. 695 00:33:34.390 --> 00:33:36.339 I'm to that part, dude. 696 00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:38.380 This is why I go on X for like five 697 00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:43.779 minutes and then I get off of it. Because it's insane. 698 00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:45.859 It's absolutely insane. 699 00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:48.980 BP, I know, has been having fun on X fighting 700 00:33:49.009 --> 00:33:53.130 with people. But I can't. 701 00:33:53.529 --> 00:33:56.710 I just can't do it no more. I mean, the 702 00:33:56.869 --> 00:33:59.890 stupidity that people come at me with on there. It's like, 703 00:34:00.009 --> 00:34:02.930 I don't how do I squeeze all of the answers 704 00:34:02.970 --> 00:34:05.849 to your stupidity into just that many characters? I know 705 00:34:05.869 --> 00:34:08.190 I got like 300 and something or whatever now, but 706 00:34:09.070 --> 00:34:13.050 I can't do it. I can't do it because it's 707 00:34:13.070 --> 00:34:14.670 just it's it's overwhelming. 708 00:34:14.730 --> 00:34:15.010 It's like. 709 00:34:15.739 --> 00:34:18.940 There are 15 things wrong with the sentence you just 710 00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.099 uttered on this thing. Where do I begin to break 711 00:34:22.139 --> 00:34:26.780 down your absolute lack of reality in your tweet or whatever, 712 00:34:26.860 --> 00:34:32.210 your ex-post, whatever, right? Which is funny because an ex-post, 713 00:34:32.269 --> 00:34:35.949 by the way, ex-post means, you know, after the fact. 714 00:34:37.010 --> 00:34:44.150 You know, so, you know, yikes. After the fact, yes, exactly, 715 00:34:44.289 --> 00:34:47.670 not the fact. After the fact, here's the result. That's 716 00:34:47.690 --> 00:34:48.630 what an ex post is. 717 00:34:49.190 --> 00:34:52.590 You know, just a little reminder that sometimes the truth 718 00:34:52.690 --> 00:34:59.630 is in the plain language. But your tweet or whatever, there. 719 00:34:58.289 --> 00:35:02.010 Is so much moronic noise on there. I don't know 720 00:35:02.030 --> 00:35:04.909 what to say, except that, you know, you almost think 721 00:35:04.949 --> 00:35:07.260 like it's a freedom of speech platform until you cross 722 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:11.699 the wrong line. Like my new Thursday night guy got 723 00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:15.480 himself banned. And now the ironic part is his fake 724 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.320 name account is still just fine. 725 00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:20.219 And it's got a joke built into it. It's Dwight Mann. 726 00:35:21.340 --> 00:35:29.320 And it's D. White Mann. Get it? So this guy 727 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.840 goes on there, says all kinds of smart ass stuff 728 00:35:31.929 --> 00:35:35.110 and racial stuff and doesn't get banned. And meanwhile, the 729 00:35:35.550 --> 00:35:40.170 money over everything studios account is like permanently done. Cook, 730 00:35:40.550 --> 00:35:43.590 because he said the wrong thing about race on X. 731 00:35:44.889 --> 00:35:46.050 It wasn't even all that harsh. 732 00:35:46.110 --> 00:35:50.670 Well, it also depends, too, on how somebody reports you. 733 00:35:51.150 --> 00:35:54.070 Well, that's it. Like, Maria Heller got banned on there 734 00:35:54.670 --> 00:35:55.170 years ago. 735 00:35:55.969 --> 00:35:57.909 I get a shadow ban about every two weeks. 736 00:35:58.130 --> 00:36:00.489 Yeah, no, shadow bans are constant. And there are people 737 00:36:00.550 --> 00:36:02.630 that tell me, like, oh, you haven't posted on there 738 00:36:02.650 --> 00:36:05.050 in six months. And I go, yeah, that's not true. 739 00:36:06.309 --> 00:36:09.429 You're not

seeing my posts. Because people message me and go, 740 00:36:09.449 --> 00:36:11.869 are you okay? Because you disappeared like four months ago. 741 00:36:12.789 --> 00:36:16.510 And I go, well, I've been posting on here. Go 742 00:36:17.010 --> 00:36:19.260 to my profile. And if they actually go to my profile, 743 00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.719 they'll see stuff and they go, okay, but like I'm 744 00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:23.500 following you. 745 00:36:23.659 --> 00:36:25.320 I subscribe to you. You used to be at the 746 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.659 top of my newsfeed and you're gone. And I'm like, yeah, 747 00:36:28.739 --> 00:36:31.019 I know. What can you do anymore? 748 00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.199 It's like my Google presence is whacked because of the 749 00:36:34.219 --> 00:36:35.940 lack of YouTube I was talking about earlier. 750 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.219 But anyway, yeah, no, okay. 751 00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:41.920 So the flying car thing. Yeah, but listen, X for one, 752 00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.440 something I've noticed. I'm not trying to cut you off. 753 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:46.219 No, no, go ahead. 754 00:36:46.260 --> 00:36:47.199 I apologize if I did. 755 00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:48.119 No, no, do. 756 00:36:48.500 --> 00:36:49.820 Go ahead. They seem to. 757 00:36:51.590 --> 00:36:54.559 You know, it's no different than like any, well, I mean, 758 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:56.920 I don't partake in a lot of social media anymore. 759 00:36:56.940 --> 00:36:59.599 It's like one of the few guilty pleasures that I 760 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:04.599 take pleasure of anymore, which anymore I'm, I'm being there 761 00:37:04.659 --> 00:37:07.719 on the page is just saying, screw this shit. You know, I'm, 762 00:37:08.579 --> 00:37:10.409 this is all just like clickbait shit. 763 00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:11.030 Right. 764 00:37:11.050 --> 00:37:14.630 You know, it's just something to generate, enter internet outreach and, 765 00:37:16.670 --> 00:37:19.389 You know, for the people that don't understand what's actually 766 00:37:19.429 --> 00:37:20.210 going on around them. 767 00:37:20.610 --> 00:37:20.730 Mm-hmm. 768 00:37:21.190 --> 00:37:21.409 Yeah. 769 00:37:22.349 --> 00:37:28.090 But, yeah, X is one of the main wants. But, like, 770 00:37:28.710 --> 00:37:31.010 the majority of the people that you follow, I mean, 771 00:37:31.219 --> 00:37:33.500 good Lord, you got to do a good amount of 772 00:37:33.539 --> 00:37:36.260 scrolling to actually come across anything that they're actually posting. 773 00:37:36.900 --> 00:37:38.480 Yeah. The people that you, you know what I mean? 774 00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:39.619 You know what it reminds me of? 775 00:37:39.619 --> 00:37:42.860 They're filtering in so much bullshit in the mix that it's... 776 00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:45.800 You understand what I'm saying? 777 00:37:46.019 --> 00:37:46.460 Absolutely. 778 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:48.780 It reminds me of the Sunset Strip when I went 779 00:37:48.860 --> 00:37:53.659 out to L.A. The Sunset Strip was loaded with tons 780 00:37:53.699 --> 00:37:56.139 of whores and then there were the prostitutes. 781 00:37:56.159 --> 00:38:00.820 You know what I'm saying? And that's what it mostly was. 782 00:38:00.940 --> 00:38:02.639 And if you weeded through all that, there was a 783 00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:04.880 couple of good little landmarks and a couple of decent 784 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.159 clubs and even a decent restaurant here and there on 785 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:12.840 the Sunset Strip. But generally speaking, you had to navigate 786 00:38:12.900 --> 00:38:15.639 through a sea of whores and then there were the 787 00:38:15.659 --> 00:38:19.619 prostitutes i say again um you know to get you. 788 00:38:19.579 --> 00:38:21.980 Referring to shane gillis i'm not trying to cut you. 789 00:38:21.860 --> 00:38:25.050 No i'm not i'm not even talking about him because 790 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:27.630 you know that's perfectly relevant. 791 00:38:27.849 --> 00:38:30.250 Yeah well you know whatever oh i went on saturday 792 00:38:30.289 --> 00:38:33.730 night live and challenged the liberals okay good job shane 793 00:38:34.110 --> 00:38:38.789 um You know, and no offense to even Tim with 794 00:38:38.829 --> 00:38:45.719 the tinfoil hat and all that, okay? But, you know, 795 00:38:46.019 --> 00:38:49.179 I like that guy. He's kind of funny, and he's 796 00:38:49.219 --> 00:38:55.000 definitely at least a real guy. But nonetheless, Shane, I 797 00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:55.360 don't know. 798 00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:57.280 What to make of that guy. There's a guy who 799 00:38:57.300 --> 00:38:59.679 got lucky he made the right friends. What can I say? 800 00:39:00.659 --> 00:39:04.199 He's got some talent, but, you know, clearly, I mean— 801 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.019 You know what the game is here. Come on. 802 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:11.199 So now we're going to try and be the conservative 803 00:39:11.260 --> 00:39:12.719 in the post-conservative world. 804 00:39:12.940 --> 00:39:13.340 Good luck. 805 00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:18.530 You know, ask your buddy Rogan how well that's working 806 00:39:18.570 --> 00:39:19.070 out for him. 807 00:39:19.449 --> 00:39:21.409 He doesn't look happy lately. I don't know if anybody 808 00:39:21.449 --> 00:39:29.969 noticed that. He's not pleased with his decisions, it seems like. Anyway. 809 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:31.260 I'm going to conclude with that. None of these people 810 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:35.619 seem to be. You know what I mean? It's like... Sorry. 811 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:37.559 Even Theo Vaughn, they seem to be. 812 00:39:39.429 --> 00:39:44.110 I don't know what's overtaking them or who's overtaking them, 813 00:39:45.510 --> 00:39:48.809 but they're just... They seem to be taking on guests 814 00:39:48.869 --> 00:39:54.170 to where they're just... Essentially amplifying their guest's political points 815 00:39:54.210 --> 00:39:54.469

of view. 816 00:39:55.269 --> 00:39:55.489 Yeah. 817 00:39:55.869 --> 00:39:57.070 If that makes any sense. 818 00:39:57.190 --> 00:40:00.179 I think Theo Vaughn is under too much medication or 819 00:40:01.070 --> 00:40:04.880 needs to change his medication because he seems to– like 820 00:40:04.900 --> 00:40:09.440 a roller coaster. He'll– He'll be what you think is 821 00:40:09.980 --> 00:40:10.719 fairly normal. 822 00:40:11.139 --> 00:40:11.380 Right. 823 00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:13.760 And then you'll see one of his podcasts where he's 824 00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:16.300 kind of going off the deep end. And then you'll 825 00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.260 see him kind of panic a little bit. I just 826 00:40:18.300 --> 00:40:19.719 think his meds are under control. 827 00:40:19.739 --> 00:40:21.280 But maybe he's just– I'm sorry. 828 00:40:21.300 --> 00:40:25.349 That could be his natural disposition, just being bipolar because 829 00:40:25.389 --> 00:40:28.489 I think that's what he is. And that's just his 830 00:40:28.550 --> 00:40:33.869 natural being, I think. And Theo is, again, one of 831 00:40:33.889 --> 00:40:39.030 these guys who's interesting and can be funny. But here's 832 00:40:39.090 --> 00:40:40.510 the problem with a whole lot of them. 833 00:40:41.750 --> 00:40:43.349 They don't have any original thoughts. 834 00:40:45.309 --> 00:40:48.280 Also, simultaneously, and I'm not trying to interrupt, but like 835 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:54.199 Theo Vaughn and Joe, well, more so Theo Vaughn here recently, 836 00:40:54.940 --> 00:40:58.199 opposed to Joe Rogan. I mean, they were both guilty 837 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.900 of it during the presidential election. And yep, sure, there's 838 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:06.960 nothing wrong with giving different platforms, you know, freedom of reach, 839 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.369 freedom of speech, blah, blah, blah, you know, assign whatever 840 00:41:10.409 --> 00:41:15.030 bullshit term you want to it. But, Here recently, it's 841 00:41:15.070 --> 00:41:18.610 been more so Theo Vaughn. Good Lord, I wouldn't be 842 00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:22.719 surprised if he hosts Netanyahu on his platform here soon. 843 00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:23.679 Yeah, why not? 844 00:41:25.059 --> 00:41:26.280 But here's the other thing. Yeah, fuck it. 845 00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:26.760 Why not? 846 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:28.300 Yeah, why not? Screw it. 847 00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:28.719 Why not? 848 00:41:28.900 --> 00:41:29.460 No, you're right. 849 00:41:29.500 --> 00:41:31.690 Listen, don't worry about the cursing because we're not on 850 00:41:31.769 --> 00:41:35.090 AM and FM anymore. And they don't ban that in Germany, 851 00:41:35.130 --> 00:41:37.710 by the way. So, you know, again, thank you, my 852 00:41:37.730 --> 00:41:41.019 German friends, for listening to us while you eat and drink. Um, 853 00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:44.480 the thing about it is though, to me, Joe Rogan 854 00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.760 has never been a guy who had his own point 855 00:41:47.780 --> 00:41:50.710 of view. Anyway, if somebody gets in front of him 856 00:41:50.849 --> 00:41:53.750 and has an impressive story that makes sense at the moment, 857 00:41:54.250 --> 00:41:58.869 his eyes get wide and he goes all in. Um, 858 00:41:59.050 --> 00:42:03.210 that's why there's series is multiple series of AI videos 859 00:42:03.250 --> 00:42:05.090 where he just does the thing. Hey, let's just play 860 00:42:05.130 --> 00:42:08.389 that tape. And people have edited in everything in the 861 00:42:08.429 --> 00:42:11.750 world into it. And you can't tell the difference between 862 00:42:11.789 --> 00:42:13.989 that and a normal Joe Rogan reaction clip. 863 00:42:14.750 --> 00:42:15.690 Because it's the same damn thing. 864 00:42:15.710 --> 00:42:17.030 Yeah, but simultaneously. 865 00:42:17.250 --> 00:42:17.590 Yeah. 866 00:42:17.730 --> 00:42:20.800 Once again, I apologize, Chuck. I'm not trying to talk 867 00:42:20.820 --> 00:42:21.219 over you. 868 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:21.909 Dude, I want you to. 869 00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:22.280 Go ahead. 870 00:42:22.659 --> 00:42:24.539 I was one of those dudes that was like an 871 00:42:24.659 --> 00:42:27.940 OG listener, you know, like to when he was podcasting 872 00:42:27.980 --> 00:42:28.760 from his apartment. 873 00:42:29.340 --> 00:42:29.440 Okay. 874 00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.130 And there was clearly a shift. 875 00:42:31.949 --> 00:42:32.269 In, I. 876 00:42:33.809 --> 00:42:36.750 Don't know, you can call it perspective. Yeah. You know, 877 00:42:37.449 --> 00:42:39.340 however you want to paraphrase it, realistically. 878 00:42:40.099 --> 00:42:40.320 Well. 879 00:42:40.460 --> 00:42:42.320 But I was listening to him when. 880 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.820 He was podcasting from his apartment before he was married. 881 00:42:45.940 --> 00:42:47.840 You know what I mean? Right. He was a single dude. 882 00:42:47.860 --> 00:42:49.039 You know what I mean? 883 00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:51.780 And no different than Theo Vaughn. I was listening to 884 00:42:51.820 --> 00:42:54.809 Theo when he was, you know, a poor little sap, 885 00:42:54.949 --> 00:43:00.590 you know, just giving him pretty much advice for, you know. 886 00:43:03.150 --> 00:43:06.010 Society's uh most disparaging. 887 00:43:05.429 --> 00:43:09.690 People right but he was he was sharper you know i. 888 00:43:09.650 --> 00:43:12.760 Mean this that's when i was listening to these individuals 889 00:43:13.019 --> 00:43:15.820 right and there was a noticeable shift like me i 890 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:18.619 dropped off of rogan and it was around 2020 or 891 00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:22.320 you know during the height of convid and i you 892 00:43:22.340 --> 00:43:25.730 know covid convid i got convid because it was. 893 00:43:25.670 --> 00:43:28.750 A fucking con gotcha in my opinion You know what 894 00:43:28.769 --> 00:43:30.869 I mean? No, that's when I dropped off. 895

00:43:31.230 --> 00:43:37.050 And like, he was just literally just pulsing one leftist person, 896 00:43:37.429 --> 00:43:39.110 persona after another. 897 00:43:39.130 --> 00:43:39.630 Yeah. 898 00:43:40.289 --> 00:43:47.090 Well, that's weird because then he went all Trump esteem. Okay. Uh, he, 899 00:43:47.219 --> 00:43:50.440 he was all in on Trump. You know what I mean? 900 00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.679 But this is my point. He doesn't have an actual position. 901 00:43:54.380 --> 00:43:59.760 He doesn't have a commitment to anything. whatever's in front 902 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:03.059 of him, just like, you know, a cat, the cat 903 00:44:03.099 --> 00:44:05.119 can be all focused on everything. And then you take 904 00:44:05.179 --> 00:44:07.659 out the laser pointer and that's where their attention is. 905 00:44:08.550 --> 00:44:11.889 He's a cat with a laser pointer. And here's the 906 00:44:12.150 --> 00:44:15.050 thing where Rogan graduated. You got to remember this guy 907 00:44:15.250 --> 00:44:18.719 was not the greatest standup comedian ever. 908 00:44:19.699 --> 00:44:20.119 Okay. 909 00:44:20.260 --> 00:44:22.230 Not even in person. 910 00:44:22.510 --> 00:44:22.809 Yeah. 911 00:44:23.070 --> 00:44:25.949 Not back in Tampa. I think it was 2015. 912 00:44:25.949 --> 00:44:26.170 Yeah. 913 00:44:26.329 --> 00:44:28.630 Not much better than the average guy who just used 914 00:44:28.670 --> 00:44:30.809 to show up on college campuses and get paid a 915 00:44:30.849 --> 00:44:31.489 hundred bucks. 916 00:44:32.030 --> 00:44:35.489 He was about on that level. Okay. Honestly, he got 917 00:44:35.550 --> 00:44:39.730 lucky with fear factor. Okay. Which made him a celebrity, uh, 918 00:44:40.710 --> 00:44:44.360 in that way. And then he should have been done. 919 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:48.349 He got lucky again with the podcast, uh, And he 920 00:44:48.389 --> 00:44:51.849 hosted anybody and everybody he could because just to get 921 00:44:51.889 --> 00:44:55.190 the attention. And once that money poured in and he 922 00:44:55.230 --> 00:44:58.610 was starting to get hundreds of millions of dollars, OK, 923 00:44:58.650 --> 00:45:01.829 for exclusive rights to his podcast, which makes zero sense. 924 00:45:03.789 --> 00:45:06.300 He changed, didn't he? He built his own comedy club. 925 00:45:06.340 --> 00:45:08.199 He imported everybody. 926 00:45:07.820 --> 00:45:11.159 Into his new city, his new home, because L.A. was 927 00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:14.900 too corrupt for him, you know, allegedly. And he went 928 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:19.769 into we're actually, you know, real people. Um, and he became, 929 00:45:19.789 --> 00:45:23.250 you know, Lord of his own little fiefdom there. That's 930 00:45:23.309 --> 00:45:24.989 obviously going to change you. Look at what happened to 931 00:45:25.010 --> 00:45:28.449 Howard Stern. He's totally ruined. They just put that HBO 932 00:45:28.469 --> 00:45:32.590 show out. It's horrible. I mean, absolutely horrible. 933 00:45:32.610 --> 00:45:34.550 I don't know what he used to be. I mean, he's, 934 00:45:34.630 --> 00:45:35.690 he's not even comparable. 935 00:45:36.090 --> 00:45:37.250 He, not even close. 936 00:45:37.269 --> 00:45:38.309 I'm not trying to talk over you. 937 00:45:38.469 --> 00:45:41.110 No, I remember, you know, no, I grew up and 938 00:45:41.190 --> 00:45:44.409 I was one of these generations that, yeah, fucking just, we, 939 00:45:45.530 --> 00:45:49.949 I was turned loose so I could watch TV. And yeah, 940 00:45:50.030 --> 00:45:51.809 I would watch Howard Stern. 941 00:45:52.349 --> 00:45:56.750 Back in the early 90s, early to mid-90s. I was 942 00:45:56.789 --> 00:45:57.650 watching Howard Stern. 943 00:45:57.989 --> 00:45:59.210 Yeah, I was listening to Howard Stern. 944 00:45:59.230 --> 00:46:02.070 Part of it, honestly, was for Jackoff material, and I'm 945 00:46:02.110 --> 00:46:03.429 not trying to be inappropriate. 946 00:46:03.530 --> 00:46:05.219 I listened to a lot of guys. 947 00:46:05.469 --> 00:46:06.360 Teenage boy. 948 00:46:06.659 --> 00:46:07.409 A lot of guys did that. 949 00:46:07.469 --> 00:46:10.280 And if you saw some blurred nipples, I mean, good Lord, 950 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:11.360 that was still turned on. 951 00:46:12.219 --> 00:46:14.420 Right, and if you went and got the videotapes, nothing 952 00:46:14.460 --> 00:46:14.960 was blurred. 953 00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.440 And that's the thing. But Howard Stern, I wasn't into 954 00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.219 it for any of that. It was there was a 955 00:46:22.260 --> 00:46:24.500 lot of clever humor. There was a lot of topical stuff. 956 00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:26.739 There was a lot of outrageous pushing of the line. 957 00:46:27.219 --> 00:46:31.150 And that stuff happened in the 80s because I lived 958 00:46:31.170 --> 00:46:31.809 in New Jersey. 959 00:46:31.849 --> 00:46:34.789 So guess what? When Howard was just on in New York, 960 00:46:35.869 --> 00:46:38.070 I was listening to him every morning. 961 00:46:38.630 --> 00:46:40.309 And I used to put a tape in before I 962 00:46:40.369 --> 00:46:42.329 even went out for the day and make sure I 963 00:46:42.369 --> 00:46:43.530 caught at least the next hour. 964 00:46:44.739 --> 00:46:45.389 On a recording. 965 00:46:45.989 --> 00:46:48.389 OK, so I could hear as much of the show 966 00:46:48.429 --> 00:46:52.170 as possible. You know what I'm saying? 967 00:46:52.269 --> 00:46:55.150 I mean, Howard Stern was a unique thing, but he 968 00:46:55.250 --> 00:46:57.630 is not even a shadow of what he was now. 969 00:46:58.630 --> 00:47:00.590 And he went, oh, no, he's not recognizable. 970 00:47:00.869 --> 00:47:05.280 And he's like a completely revolting left wing freaking. I mean, 971 00:47:05.300 --> 00:47:11.630 you know, ultra arch left wing propagandist now. You know 972 00:47:11.670 --> 00:47:12.030 what I'm saying? 973 00:47:12.070 --> 00:47:14.230 Let me ask you this. Is this,

is that like, 974 00:47:14.610 --> 00:47:18.500 is that just incidental or is that intentional? Well, no, 975 00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:19.900 in your personal opinion. 976 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:25.219 See, he always was that way, but that was his 977 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:28.719 rebellion to come out in the other direction. 978 00:47:29.500 --> 00:47:32.019 And that's what got him the attention. That's what built him. 979 00:47:32.059 --> 00:47:34.989 But here's the, here's the, uh, the, the thing that 980 00:47:35.030 --> 00:47:38.489 ties him and Rogan together is, Once those hundreds of 981 00:47:38.550 --> 00:47:41.789 millions of dollars a year worth of contracts start dropping 982 00:47:41.809 --> 00:47:47.079 in these guys' laps, they're irrevocably changed. They're no longer 983 00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:49.360 going to be the cutting-edge guy. They're no longer going 984 00:47:49.380 --> 00:47:51.679 to be the guy who does the work. They're no 985 00:47:51.739 --> 00:47:54.280 longer going to be the guy who cares about cultivating 986 00:47:54.340 --> 00:47:54.719 a team. 987 00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:59.590 You know what I'm saying? So why should they bother 988 00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:02.269 at $ 200 million a year? I mean, how do you 989 00:48:02.349 --> 00:48:04.949 even spend that, even living in New York City, for 990 00:48:04.989 --> 00:48:09.429 Christ's sake? You know what I mean? If you and Howard, 991 00:48:10.349 --> 00:48:15.519 not exactly the most elaborately living individual, even with the 992 00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.599 divorce and everything else, it didn't even come close to 993 00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:20.579 wiping him out. You know what I'm saying? He did 994 00:48:20.619 --> 00:48:24.739 just fine. So hundreds of millions of dollars later, over 995 00:48:24.780 --> 00:48:28.179 a billion dollars later, just talking on a radio mic. 996 00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:28.480 Yeah. 997 00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:32.519 Now he's gotten completely lazy. And why should he bother? 998 00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:34.679 I mean, and they keep making him show up. Now 999 00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:38.730 he's doing one day a week. Okay, on his radio show. 1000 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:40.400 One day a week. 1001 00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:44.489 How does that lead to... I'm not trying to talk 1002 00:48:44.550 --> 00:48:46.670 over you. But how does that lead to. 1003 00:48:47.550 --> 00:48:51.909 You know, like the radio king of the world, essentially, 1004 00:48:52.170 --> 00:48:53.809 to fucking, you know. 1005 00:48:54.110 --> 00:48:58.309 Here we are, and now we're just, you know. 1006 00:48:58.389 --> 00:49:01.869 We're wearing a fucking, we're wearing a mask, you know, 1007 00:49:01.889 --> 00:49:05.510 and our staff are fucking, you know, for how they're. 1008 00:49:05.530 --> 00:49:08.769 Coming into the room. You know what I mean? Not 1009 00:49:08.829 --> 00:49:09.769 properly dressed. 1010 00:49:10.230 --> 00:49:11.000 Because you end up. 1011 00:49:11.010 --> 00:49:12.489 Because they might be. 1012 00:49:13.230 --> 00:49:13.550 Okay. 1013 00:49:13.670 --> 00:49:15.650 They might be spreading COVID-19. 1014 00:49:15.929 --> 00:49:17.960 Sorry. This is what I'm trying to explain. 1015 00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:18.119 I know. 1016 00:49:18.139 --> 00:49:19.239 I just want to explain this to you. 1017 00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:21.820 When you end up as a guy and think about 1018 00:49:21.860 --> 00:49:25.630 Stern for a minute, a guy who basically sucked as 1019 00:49:25.670 --> 00:49:28.050 a radio DJ, OK, playing music. 1020 00:49:28.510 --> 00:49:31.389 That's the truth. He sucked as a radio DJ. He 1021 00:49:31.409 --> 00:49:34.489 was terrible, but he wanted to do radio. 1022 00:49:35.550 --> 00:49:38.750 He started talking and just saying stupid things on air 1023 00:49:39.070 --> 00:49:42.789 and built a fan base out of it. And that's 1024 00:49:42.829 --> 00:49:46.369 what happened. And that fan base was so rabid that 1025 00:49:46.550 --> 00:49:50.570 his fan base alone made his movie successful. He did 1026 00:49:50.610 --> 00:49:51.840 a major Hollywood movie. 1027 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:56.159 It was successful. Okay. He did a television series. 1028 00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:56.739 Fart Man? 1029 00:49:57.480 --> 00:49:59.440 No, no, not Fart Man. Private Parts, dude. 1030 00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:01.679 Not Fart Man. Private Parts. 1031 00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:02.619 Yeah, Private Parts. 1032 00:50:02.659 --> 00:50:03.340 Totally successful. 1033 00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:04.500 Did that feature Fart Man? 1034 00:50:05.250 --> 00:50:08.110 Well, Fartman was just a part of it because it 1035 00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:10.440 told the story of Fartman when he appeared on the 1036 00:50:10.539 --> 00:50:15.219 MTV Music Awards as Fartman. Yeah, but Fartman was a 1037 00:50:15.260 --> 00:50:17.199 movie or comic book he wanted to do and a 1038 00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:18.320 movie he wanted to do. 1039 00:50:19.139 --> 00:50:22.619 But I don't think they ever got that together. Doesn't matter. 1040 00:50:22.739 --> 00:50:25.000 The point is that not all of his ideas were winners. 1041 00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:28.860 But at a certain point, he could sell almost anything 1042 00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:33.480 to anyone. He writes books. He's not a writer. 1043 00:50:34.300 --> 00:50:39.960 They sold. They were bestsellers. They were New York Times bestsellers. Immediately, automatically, 1044 00:50:40.019 --> 00:50:42.780 based off of his fan base. He had that powerful 1045 00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:43.840 of a fan base. 1046 00:50:45.219 --> 00:50:45.539 Okay? 1047 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.139 The whole reason why Snapple is a nationwide company is 1048 00:50:49.219 --> 00:50:52.789 not from Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh came in after. Howard 1049 00:50:52.809 --> 00:50:56.889 Stern had already built it. Rush Limbaugh said, oh, good idea, 1050 00:50:56.989 --> 00:50:57.929 and ran with it, too. 1051

00:50:59.130 --> 00:51:04.909 Okay? While Rush Limbaugh was doing Ruth's Chris Steakhouse... Uh, Howard. 1052 00:51:04.610 --> 00:51:08.210 Stern was selling you Snapple and back when Snapple had 1053 00:51:08.269 --> 00:51:11.909 root beer and freaking, uh, cola drinks, even he was 1054 00:51:11.949 --> 00:51:14.320 selling it and he made that company big enough that 1055 00:51:14.380 --> 00:51:14.980 it got bought. 1056 00:51:15.940 --> 00:51:16.300 Okay. 1057 00:51:16.420 --> 00:51:20.300 And then comes, you know, uh, freaking Limbaugh. But the 1058 00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:25.360 point is the guy had a huge audience base that 1059 00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:28.510 was built off of this and it was rabid. He 1060 00:51:28.570 --> 00:51:31.210 also syndicated one station at a time, which, of course, 1061 00:51:31.269 --> 00:51:33.449 Limbaugh did the same thing. But Limbaugh gave away his 1062 00:51:33.489 --> 00:51:37.349 shows and made it a massive machine before he even 1063 00:51:37.389 --> 00:51:40.050 had the listeners. So listeners just tuned in because he 1064 00:51:40.110 --> 00:51:44.179 was everywhere. It was a slightly different model. But the 1065 00:51:44.219 --> 00:51:48.869 point is that Stern's rapid fan base... And, you know, 1066 00:51:48.889 --> 00:51:50.929 he did public events. People showed up. He had a 1067 00:51:50.969 --> 00:51:53.460 tennis tournament with people who couldn't play tennis and people 1068 00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:56.300 sold out, you know, an arena to watch it happen. 1069 00:51:56.340 --> 00:51:58.360 Plus it was a pay-per-view. Plus it was a video 1070 00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:02.880 after anything the guy decided to do. He did son 1071 00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:07.469 of a beach, a TV series for a while. Okay. 1072 00:52:07.710 --> 00:52:09.829 They paid him to do that. He got paid to 1073 00:52:09.889 --> 00:52:13.230 do everything and anything that he basically decided to do 1074 00:52:13.329 --> 00:52:16.280 outside of the fart man movie never got made. Because 1075 00:52:16.739 --> 00:52:20.539 it's a little beyond, you know, it's one joke. It's 1076 00:52:20.699 --> 00:52:22.679 one joke. You're going to stretch that into 90 minutes? 1077 00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:25.800 I mean, you know, Private Parts had a story. 1078 00:52:25.909 --> 00:52:28.969 It had, you know, an arc, three acts, all that 1079 00:52:29.010 --> 00:52:30.469 kind of stuff that Hollywood likes. 1080 00:52:31.630 --> 00:52:33.929 And Ivan Reitman directed it. I mean, you know, come on. 1081 00:52:34.969 --> 00:52:38.050 But this guy could turn around and make a TV 1082 00:52:38.090 --> 00:52:40.690 show that wasn't even a TV show and sell it. 1083 00:52:42.449 --> 00:52:46.710 Everything he did sold. So he had so much money. Listen, 1084 00:52:46.730 --> 00:52:49.949 that's going to change who you are. And he was 1085 00:52:50.610 --> 00:52:52.809 going on the air trying to be who he is, right? 1086 00:52:53.469 --> 00:52:55.829 And Rogan, the same thing. Once he became the king 1087 00:52:55.869 --> 00:53:00.300 of his own fiefdom, it was over. And anything he 1088 00:53:00.340 --> 00:53:03.219 does now, it doesn't matter. Liberals, I find it funny 1089 00:53:03.260 --> 00:53:04.519 you think he's bringing on liberals. 1090 00:53:06.059 --> 00:53:07.340 Because all he did. 1091 00:53:07.460 --> 00:53:11.530 I mean, he used to be fantastic. Like, when I 1092 00:53:11.550 --> 00:53:13.969 fell off... I'm not trying to cut you off on 1093 00:53:14.010 --> 00:53:14.530 your end. 1094 00:53:14.550 --> 00:53:15.650 Go ahead, go ahead. 1095 00:53:15.690 --> 00:53:17.409 You want to tell me to shut up? Shut up. 1096 00:53:17.610 --> 00:53:18.329 Tell me to shut up. 1097 00:53:18.510 --> 00:53:19.969 I can put you on hold any time. 1098 00:53:19.989 --> 00:53:22.289 I can just put you on hold. 1099 00:53:22.309 --> 00:53:25.429 Listen, when I fell off of Rogan, it was like 1100 00:53:25.530 --> 00:53:29.099 when he had a guest on that was arguing, you know, 1101 00:53:29.579 --> 00:53:32.519 the why we need boys and girls sports. 1102 00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:33.679 Okay. 1103 00:53:33.699 --> 00:53:34.280 You know what I mean? 1104 00:53:35.460 --> 00:53:37.699 OK, well, you know, that's one of those issues where 1105 00:53:37.780 --> 00:53:39.449 I felt a wrap. 1106 00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:39.860 My head around. 1107 00:53:40.369 --> 00:53:42.210 I got you. But he also took the heat. He 1108 00:53:42.250 --> 00:53:46.389 also took the heat on ivermectin. Right. He took the 1109 00:53:46.429 --> 00:53:52.110 heat on being a Trump supporter. No doubt. OK, he's 1110 00:53:52.150 --> 00:53:54.630 taking heat on all kinds of things because the guy 1111 00:53:54.690 --> 00:53:56.110 has no actual positions. 1112 00:53:56.769 --> 00:54:01.179 He'll have the arch liberal on. Didn't he have Kamala 1113 00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:03.989 on his show? I've got to think back. Which presidential 1114 00:54:04.050 --> 00:54:05.550 candidates were on the Rogan show? 1115 00:54:05.590 --> 00:54:09.190 That one was extended, too. They extended the offer to Kamala. 1116 00:54:09.889 --> 00:54:16.210 Her campaign never accepted. That wasn't a thing. 1117 00:54:16.269 --> 00:54:17.929 Did he have Biden on? Who did he have on? 1118 00:54:18.010 --> 00:54:22.909 I know he had on presidential candidates, though. Which ones 1119 00:54:22.949 --> 00:54:26.150 did he have on? I am not a Rogan guy. 1120 00:54:27.210 --> 00:54:28.449 I mean. 1121 00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:30.119 I'm trying to think. 1122 00:54:30.179 --> 00:54:34.500 In terms of, like, he was actually less presidential than Theo. 1123 00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:37.659 I mean, Theo's the one that kind of took it 1124 00:54:37.699 --> 00:54:38.659 to the extra line. 1125 00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:43.780 Yeah, but see, now, here's... I. 1126 00:54:43.739 --> 00:54:48.349 Think, in terms of if I'm properly recollecting my memory, 1127 00:54:49.829 --> 00:54:52.010 he

had the ability to take on Kamala. 1128 00:54:52.530 --> 00:54:56.929 Okay. They turned it down because he didn't agree to 1129 00:54:56.969 --> 00:55:04.320 go to their... their facility to conduct the podcast. 1130 00:55:04.940 --> 00:55:06.099 Okay. 1131 00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:07.559 I'm pretty sure that's it. 1132 00:55:07.980 --> 00:55:08.860 But realize this. 1133 00:55:09.340 --> 00:55:12.210 The same kind of fan-based power that Howard Stern had, 1134 00:55:12.849 --> 00:55:14.789 Rogan had it in a different way where he could 1135 00:55:14.829 --> 00:55:20.469 just give a career to a friend. You know, Burt Kirshner. 1136 00:55:20.530 --> 00:55:25.989 That's how a lot of these, Dave Smith, It wouldn't 1137 00:55:26.030 --> 00:55:27.769 be where he's at if it wasn't for Rogan and 1138 00:55:27.809 --> 00:55:28.530 a couple others. 1139 00:55:28.769 --> 00:55:29.809 I got a list here. 1140 00:55:29.829 --> 00:55:31.349 Rogan was a kingmaker. 1141 00:55:32.489 --> 00:55:33.329 Just a politician. 1142 00:55:33.349 --> 00:55:38.210 That doesn't necessarily make him right, but he was technically 1143 00:55:38.230 --> 00:55:39.730 what we call a kingmaker. 1144 00:55:40.170 --> 00:55:41.010 But Rogan? 1145 00:55:41.869 --> 00:55:42.230 Yeah. 1146 00:55:42.630 --> 00:55:45.309 Yeah, Rogan is. That's my point. Rogan is a kingmaker. 1147 00:55:45.349 --> 00:55:47.869 Burt Kirshner doesn't deserve to be heard by anybody. 1148 00:55:49.019 --> 00:55:52.500 Oh no that that fucking guy sorry okay but he's 1149 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:56.900 that individual okay shit doesn't exist technically all right he 1150 00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:59.059 was funny for a period of time and who was 1151 00:55:59.099 --> 00:56:01.159 that guy he should have been fucking written off a 1152 00:56:01.179 --> 00:56:02.159 period of time. 1153 00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:04.179 Ago and who who was that guy who uh probably 1154 00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:06.440 took too many hits to the head in mma and 1155 00:56:06.500 --> 00:56:08.619 freaking they turned him into a stand-up comedian who was 1156 00:56:08.659 --> 00:56:11.949 that was that brandon something or other i i can't 1157 00:56:11.969 --> 00:56:16.760 remember But remember there was like an ultimate UFC fighter 1158 00:56:16.780 --> 00:56:19.460 that they turned into a stand-up comedian? Remember that? 1159 00:56:19.900 --> 00:56:21.409 Eddie Bravo? 1160 00:56:22.070 --> 00:56:23.150 No, not Eddie Bravo. 1161 00:56:23.530 --> 00:56:27.170 No, not Eddie. 1162 00:56:27.250 --> 00:56:28.969 No, there's another guy. I swear to God. 1163 00:56:29.150 --> 00:56:30.250 You got to give me a minute here. 1164 00:56:30.469 --> 00:56:31.409 Yeah, no, you'll get it. 1165 00:56:31.929 --> 00:56:35.250 I don't know who you're thinking of. I just can't 1166 00:56:35.309 --> 00:56:35.769 think of anyone. 1167 00:56:36.070 --> 00:56:39.219 Yeah, but Burt Kirshner has one routine, which is, I 1168 00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:41.559 am the machine.

And they gave him a movie, for 1169 00:56:41.579 --> 00:56:44.289 Christ's sake. The guy's not even funny. 1170 00:56:44.309 --> 00:56:49.519 Yeah, based off a supposed visit in Russia. 1171 00:56:49.619 --> 00:56:52.340 Based off of some BS story where he was hanging out. 1172 00:56:52.380 --> 00:56:52.579 Yeah. 1173 00:56:55.460 --> 00:56:59.360 Signatory story that you hear from Bert Kreischer. 1174 00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:07.719 Right, but that's... I am the machine. He was supposedly. 1175 00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:10.389 Given the title of being the machine by Russian mobsters. 1176 00:57:10.849 --> 00:57:12.210 Oh, I thought it was Russian mobsters. 1177 00:57:12.329 --> 00:57:16.429 I was thinking it was called Brendan Schwab. 1178 00:57:17.349 --> 00:57:18.289 Yes, Schwab. 1179 00:57:18.329 --> 00:57:18.699 That's it. 1180 00:57:18.929 --> 00:57:21.260 There you go. That's the UFC guy that he turned 1181 00:57:21.300 --> 00:57:24.730 into a stand-up comedian. And gave him a career. Millions 1182 00:57:24.769 --> 00:57:27.050 of dollars this guy got paid to show up places 1183 00:57:27.090 --> 00:57:31.010 and everything else. Not funny. Not funny at all. 1184 00:57:31.349 --> 00:57:31.730 Sad. 1185 00:57:34.469 --> 00:57:36.010 Yeah, I'm not going to argue with you. 1186 00:57:36.050 --> 00:57:37.989 I'm just saying. But my point is this. 1187 00:57:38.170 --> 00:57:40.719 We've seen all these. 1188 00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:42.030 It's a matter of power. 1189 00:57:42.090 --> 00:57:44.019 The audience is what I'm trying to say is that 1190 00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:46.619 the Howard Stern thing correlates with this in this way. 1191 00:57:47.139 --> 00:57:49.500 Howard Stern could do anything, write a book, make a 1192 00:57:49.619 --> 00:57:51.619 make an album, whatever he wanted to, and it would 1193 00:57:51.659 --> 00:57:54.440 be successful. Now, before he was syndicated and all that, 1194 00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:56.219 he tried all that crap and it was all a 1195 00:57:56.239 --> 00:58:00.219 colossal failure. OK, but once he got a hold of 1196 00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:03.280 that audience, boom, he was able to sell them anything. 1197 00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:06.679 And so has Rogan been able to, including, you know, 1198 00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:09.300 his starship or whatever the hell they call it there, 1199 00:58:09.699 --> 00:58:13.469 his master comedy club he's got in Austin, Texas. 1200 00:58:13.530 --> 00:58:13.750 Right. 1201 00:58:15.110 --> 00:58:17.550 And all I'm saying is, yeah, these guys got empires 1202 00:58:17.590 --> 00:58:19.710 handed to them because they built an audience. 1203 00:58:19.889 --> 00:58:24.010 And I listen, proper respect for that. But it doesn't 1204 00:58:24.050 --> 00:58:28.650 mean that they know a fucking thing. OK, it doesn't 1205 00:58:28.670 --> 00:58:31.630 mean that they have any sort of real political position. 1206 00:58:32.030 --> 00:58:34.659 It doesn't mean that they have any integrity about anything 1207 00:58:34.699 --> 00:58:39.420 they say. They just entertain people enough to gain that audience. OK, 1208 00:58:39.980 --> 00:58:42.199 and they gain it, they lose it, whatever. And they 1209 00:58:42.219 --> 00:58:44.460 don't care about you because they can lose 10,000 of 1210 00:58:44.500 --> 00:58:48.039 you and not even itch to scratch. You get what 1211 00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:52.119 I'm saying? So it's fine. But that's what it is. 1212 00:58:52.579 --> 00:58:53.719 So how would. 1213 00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:57.369 That would not irrevocably change somebody? who is meant to 1214 00:58:57.389 --> 00:59:00.840 get on a microphone and present themselves. Listen, if somebody 1215 00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:05.340 gave me $ 100 million tomorrow, you'd hear a different show. 1216 00:59:05.659 --> 00:59:08.969 You'd hear a different show, okay? I promise you that much. 1217 00:59:09.170 --> 00:59:09.710 It wouldn't be. 1218 00:59:09.929 --> 00:59:11.989 you know, any of the shows I was just talking about, 1219 00:59:12.650 --> 00:59:13.769 but you'd hear a different show. 1220 00:59:13.889 --> 00:59:17.639 Cause I wouldn't have to be struggling anymore. You know 1221 00:59:17.659 --> 00:59:20.480 what I'm saying? It would be a different thing. 1222 00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:23.239 I'm not comparing myself to these guys. I have never 1223 00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:26.099 had a fraction. Uh, you know, these guys could belch 1224 00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:28.119 on a mic and get more people on than, than 1225 00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:28.480 I do. 1226 00:59:28.619 --> 00:59:30.760 But, It's not the point. 1227 00:59:30.940 --> 00:59:33.179 The point is that you're going to get a different 1228 00:59:33.219 --> 00:59:36.460 presentation out of somebody. It's just like watching a boxer. 1229 00:59:37.019 --> 00:59:40.460 You know, why did Mike Tyson fall to Buster Douglas? 1230 00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:47.079 Because he got lazy. And Buster Douglas wasn't. So therefore, 1231 00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:50.429 Buster had been lazy off and on throughout his career. 1232 00:59:50.489 --> 00:59:51.760 He would get fat and everything else. 1233 00:59:52.489 --> 00:59:56.389 But that night when he met Tyson, he was lined 1234 00:59:56.530 --> 00:59:58.750 up and wanted to beat him for his dead mama. 1235 00:59:59.809 --> 01:00:02.210 Mike Tyson was showing up going, oh, I got another 1236 01:00:02.250 --> 01:00:04.489 tomato can to knock around a ring for a little while. 1237 01:00:05.030 --> 01:00:07.010 Let's see if I can make this entertaining. I'll let 1238 01:00:07.050 --> 01:00:09.769 him live till the second round. And he walked in 1239 01:00:10.289 --> 01:00:12.989 with the wrong chip on his shoulder and he got 1240 01:00:13.030 --> 01:00:13.860 knocked down for it. 1241 01:00:14.780 --> 01:00:16.760 But that's the way that is. 1242 01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:20.500 So these guys, once they get full up on hundreds 1243 01:00:20.539 --> 01:00:22.960 of millions of

dollars, I don't expect them to be 1244 01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:26.760 the same thing. But that completely changes who you're listening to. 1245 01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:28.739 I promise you there's. 1246 01:00:28.579 --> 01:00:31.769 No way it can't. I mean, I give $ 100 million 1247 01:00:32.110 --> 01:00:34.230 to BP. He might not be angry anymore at all. 1248 01:00:35.190 --> 01:00:35.590 I don't know. 1249 01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:38.019 No, I doubt it. 1250 01:00:39.019 --> 01:00:39.400 You know what? 1251 01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:40.820 I doubt it, too. But you'd be angry in a 1252 01:00:40.860 --> 01:00:43.519 different way. You know, you'd be like, how dare you 1253 01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:45.079 send me that kind of lobster? 1254 01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:45.989 I don't. 1255 01:00:46.110 --> 01:00:46.809 Okay, take it. 1256 01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:48.119 I'm just saying. 1257 01:00:48.460 --> 01:00:51.179 I'm not even arguing with you, buddy. You're making the 1258 01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:53.159 same damn point that I am, essentially. 1259 01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:54.000 Okay. 1260 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.050 That kind of money, I could hire somebody just to 1261 01:00:57.110 --> 01:00:57.570 fire him. 1262 01:00:58.309 --> 01:01:00.449 See, that's the thing. BP would hire people to yell 1263 01:01:00.489 --> 01:01:02.730 at other people instead of yelling at him himself anymore. 1264 01:01:03.309 --> 01:01:05.190 That is a perfect way to look at it. 1265 01:01:06.289 --> 01:01:08.090 Listen, man, I love you, but look, we're going to 1266 01:01:08.130 --> 01:01:10.570 take a quick break because it has been just about 1267 01:01:10.610 --> 01:01:12.949 an hour, and I do want to make sure we 1268 01:01:12.969 --> 01:01:13.940 put one break in. 1269 01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:15.280 But, you know, anybody else who. 1270 01:01:15.219 --> 01:01:18.039 Wants to call in, Hey, can I say one thing? 1271 01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:20.320 Oh, yeah, absolutely. But I was going to put you 1272 01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.079 on hold and keep you over if you want, but 1273 01:01:22.139 --> 01:01:23.239 go ahead. 1274 01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:26.679 Before you put me on hold, I don't know. I've 1275 01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.349 got a young one. He might have to go to 1276 01:01:29.369 --> 01:01:30.010 bed here soon. 1277 01:01:30.510 --> 01:01:31.329 Okay. 1278 01:01:32.150 --> 01:01:35.809 I appreciate you, Chuck, and also you, BP. 1279 01:01:35.869 --> 01:01:37.510 All right, so. 1280 01:01:38.659 --> 01:01:41.550 Appreciate it. Thanks for giving me. 1281 01:01:41.510 --> 01:01:42.409 Some air time. 1282 01:01:42.429 --> 01:01:46.530 Listen, I appreciate you, and Chris has been a supporter 1283 01:01:46.570 --> 01:01:49.750 of the show and is somebody who deserves to be 1284 01:01:49.789 --> 01:01:52.010 recognized as such because there are very few of you 1285 01:01:52.090 --> 01:01:52.429 out there. 1286 01:01:52.929 --> 01:01:56.150 I got a supporters club on Spreaker

with three members, baby. 1287 01:01:57.369 --> 01:02:00.690 three members on the supporters club right now uh. 1288 01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:03.159 So you know what and i even reduced the price 1289 01:02:03.260 --> 01:02:06.780 and i still got ready one two three members for 1290 01:02:06.820 --> 01:02:08.739 a little while it was a supporter club there was 1291 01:02:08.780 --> 01:02:12.639 only one guy there but there are three now i 1292 01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:13.900 am feeling good. 1293 01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.019 Isn't that more than the jimmy james fan club didn't 1294 01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:17.719 he stop. 1295 01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:21.239 At two uh no jimmy james had like three members 1296 01:02:21.300 --> 01:02:23.070 in that fan club i don't know where they are 1297 01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:27.469 now i But there were I have equaled Jimmy James. 1298 01:02:28.030 --> 01:02:31.710 I have equaled the great one. So, you know, I 1299 01:02:31.750 --> 01:02:33.639 feel pretty good. I would like to have more. 1300 01:02:34.300 --> 01:02:35.960 If you guys go over and join it, it's like 1301 01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:40.969 seven bucks right now. a month but nobody's supporting it 1302 01:02:41.110 --> 01:02:43.400 i get no payments for the membership on the website 1303 01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.219 if you're still using that that's free for everybody at 1304 01:02:46.260 --> 01:02:48.880 this point uh it's not open to everybody but it's 1305 01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:52.619 free for everybody uh and i will create content for 1306 01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:55.420 the members uh you know supporter section excuse me on 1307 01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:58.099 speaker as members are added so that's why nothing has 1308 01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:01.260 been added this month no new members no new content 1309 01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:06.070 uh also the rated y project is dead so that's 1310 01:03:06.090 --> 01:03:06.769 the end of that. 1311 01:03:09.019 --> 01:03:11.059 You know, so another cut to my income. 1312 01:03:11.380 --> 01:03:15.059 It wasn't that big anyway, but still another cut, another cut, 1313 01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:17.920 another cut. And eventually, I don't know, it's going to 1314 01:03:17.940 --> 01:03:21.719 just cut my throat. But anyway, we are listener supported. 1315 01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:24.139 And Chris has been one of those people who supported us. 1316 01:03:24.179 --> 01:03:26.400 So on hold you go. I thank you, Chris. I 1317 01:03:26.420 --> 01:03:29.239 appreciate you. I hope you're young and doesn't keep you 1318 01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:31.519 from rejoining us at the end of the break. And 1319 01:03:31.539 --> 01:03:32.880 I hope that some of you will join us. 1320 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:01.389 We'll be right back. 1321 01:04:19.230 --> 01:04:20.289 Do you like history? 1322 01:04:20.570 --> 01:04:23.389 Real history that you were never taught in schools? 1323 01:04:23.849 --> 01:04:24.190 Why? 1324 01:04:24.429 --> 01:04:28.829

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You're going to have large numbers of suicides. 1386 01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:35.159 Take a look at what happens in a really horrible recession. 1387 01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:42.350 Revelation through conversation. 1388 01:09:07.529 --> 01:09:13.649 The Ocelli Effect is sponsored by WallStreetWindow.com and listeners like you. 1389 01:09:14.630 --> 01:09:18.289 And now, the most underrated voice in all media. 1390 01:09:19.029 --> 01:09:20.479 Chuck Ocelli. 1391 01:09:21.140 --> 01:09:23.619 So here we are, the second segment of the Friday 1392 01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:26.239 Night Open Mic with my co-host B. Pete and you, 1393 01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:32.899 if you choose to be here, 319-527-5016. And as I speak, 1394 01:09:32.979 --> 01:09:36.579 it is the 16th day of October 2026, allegedly according 1395 01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:37.779 to that thing we call a calendar. 1396 01:09:38.550 --> 01:09:42.270 And guess what? We are live. So welcome in our 1397 01:09:42.310 --> 01:09:45.010 friends from Germany and a couple of people across America 1398 01:09:45.069 --> 01:09:47.649 here and there in little groups. Appreciate you. 1399 01:09:48.569 --> 01:09:50.750 I'm sure we're only on in one restaurant, and that's 1400 01:09:50.810 --> 01:09:53.090 in

Germany. But if you hear us somewhere else publicly, 1401 01:09:53.149 --> 01:09:55.149 by all means, send me an email and let me know. 1402 01:09:55.829 --> 01:09:58.489 I will shout you out on the show. Nobody has 1403 01:09:58.569 --> 01:10:01.239 ever told me the name of the good pub over 1404 01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:02.060 there in Germany. 1405 01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:07.220 They visited the restaurant, heard the show. And that's the 1406 01:10:07.239 --> 01:10:09.560 only reason why I know that that's who's tuned into 1407 01:10:09.649 --> 01:10:10.909 us for the past four hours. 1408 01:10:12.590 --> 01:10:13.729 Yeah, four hours almost. 1409 01:10:14.510 --> 01:10:14.850 Anyways. 1410 01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:17.479 It is what it is. BP, anything you want to 1411 01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:17.880 get into? 1412 01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:20.100 We still got Chris on the line and anybody else 1413 01:10:20.140 --> 01:10:23.359 can join us. 1414 01:10:23.380 --> 01:10:23.579 319-527-5016. 1415 01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:26.159 But anything you want to throw into this? 1416 01:10:27.659 --> 01:10:31.829 No, I've just been sitting here watching some video on 1417 01:10:31.890 --> 01:10:36.850 this Tesla going up the ramp and someone's trying to 1418 01:10:36.949 --> 01:10:40.090 explain how it works. You know, a lot of people 1419 01:10:40.109 --> 01:10:42.210 are questioning how a car moved that slow. 1420 01:10:41.989 --> 01:10:42.880 Going up that ramp. 1421 01:10:42.949 --> 01:10:45.489 Apparently there was some kind of They're looking at some 1422 01:10:45.510 --> 01:10:47.930 kind of suction system that kept it pulled to the 1423 01:10:48.050 --> 01:10:51.579 deck until the time it went off the end of 1424 01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:52.159 the ramp. 1425 01:10:53.140 --> 01:10:55.079 But, you know, we'll find out later. 1426 01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:55.470 How it did it. 1427 01:10:55.779 --> 01:10:58.659 Yeah, and also Chris's point is well taken, though. There's 1428 01:10:58.720 --> 01:11:03.590 plenty of fake videos out there that extol the virtues 1429 01:11:03.750 --> 01:11:09.369 of Tesla technology and what a genius Elon Musk is. But, 1430 01:11:09.510 --> 01:11:11.789 you know, they're just about as real as Trump and 1431 01:11:11.810 --> 01:11:15.949 that bomber or whatever it was dumping turds on L.A. 1432 01:11:16.329 --> 01:11:16.989 You know what I'm saying? 1433 01:11:17.069 --> 01:11:19.029 Yeah, I mean, this one, the best thing I saw 1434 01:11:19.050 --> 01:11:22.029 on X Today was someone made the quote that, you know, 1435 01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:25.460 Elon got a flying car before Gavin Newsom got his 1436 01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:27.960 bullet train even started. 1437 01:11:28.539 --> 01:11:34.079 Yeah, well, you know how much regulation there is in California? 1438 01:11:34.140 --> 01:11:35.819 You don't even want to try and build a birdhouse 1439 01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:39.520 in that bitch. Anyways. It is what it is. 1440 01:11:39.579 --> 01:11:41.399 So we'll go back to Chris. But anybody else who 1441 01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:43.819 wants to join into this, man, the lines are open. 1442 01:11:43.859 --> 01:11:46.720 I got over 100 sitting there, and you can all call. 1443 01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:49.600 In. 1444 01:11:49.619 --> 01:11:49.960 319-527-5016. 1445 01:11:50.619 --> 01:11:53.920 Anyway, so Chris, go ahead, man. 1446 01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:58.000 Take over the conversation, and let's take it in another direction. 1447 01:11:58.020 --> 01:11:59.739 Or same one, up to you, bro. 1448 01:12:01.810 --> 01:12:07.130 Uh-oh. 1449 01:12:09.319 --> 01:12:16.380 Yeah, you're on, Chris. He's there, but not making noise. 1450 01:12:17.399 --> 01:12:18.739 I don't hear him. Is he on mute? 1451 01:12:20.060 --> 01:12:24.369 I don't hear him either, so I don't know. Was 1452 01:12:24.390 --> 01:12:24.909 that you, Chris? 1453 01:12:24.930 --> 01:12:28.170 I heard something. 1454 01:12:28.189 --> 01:12:30.890 Yeah, I heard something, but now I don't hear nothing. 1455 01:12:30.989 --> 01:12:33.310 So I'm going to put him on hold, and we 1456 01:12:33.329 --> 01:12:38.130 have another caller. So, got to you quick, but it 1457 01:12:38.149 --> 01:12:39.670 looks like it's Danny in California. 1458 01:12:39.689 --> 01:12:40.289 What's up, man? 1459 01:12:46.010 --> 01:12:46.329 Hello? 1460 01:12:47.590 --> 01:12:48.770 Do I have a phone problem? 1461 01:12:49.289 --> 01:12:49.649 Danny? 1462 01:12:51.529 --> 01:12:52.250 I'm here now. 1463 01:12:52.590 --> 01:12:53.390 Okay, there you are. 1464 01:12:53.510 --> 01:12:55.869 Okay, I thought maybe my phones were bad and I 1465 01:12:55.909 --> 01:12:56.810 had to figure something out. 1466 01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:01.699 No, it works. Okay, so on you, Danny, go ahead. 1467 01:13:03.260 --> 01:13:05.010 Oh, well, I just called up. 1468 01:13:06.260 --> 01:13:08.520 Hey, we're in the middle of October, so I've kind 1469 01:13:08.619 --> 01:13:12.229 of seen a lot of pumpkins going wild. You got 1470 01:13:12.310 --> 01:13:16.350 pumpkin slice lattes and getting a whole bunch of the 1471 01:13:16.390 --> 01:13:21.510 great pumpkin, Charlie Brown, on my phone reels. And I 1472 01:13:21.550 --> 01:13:25.079 read an article, there's a New Hampshire pumpkin farmer that 1473 01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:27.810 broke a record and then I saw an interesting thing 1474 01:13:27.850 --> 01:13:29.810 happen in North Carolina. 1475 01:13:29.829 --> 01:13:31.710 Maybe BP knows about it. There was a. 1476 01:13:31.770 --> 01:13:35.689 Giant pumpkin, like blow-up pumpkin that got loose and was 1477 01:13:35.750 --> 01:13:38.409 going down some road. Was that near you, BP? Are 1478 01:13:38.470 --> 01:13:41.810 you safe from that pumpkin? I hadn't heard about this 1479 01:13:41.909 --> 01:13:46.229 one now. A runaway pumpkin? Yeah, it was a runaway 1480 01:13:46.350 --> 01:13:50.960 blow-up pumpkin. It was huge. I saw it on ABC 1481 01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:51.939 News

this morning. 1482 01:13:52.699 --> 01:13:53.319 Let's see. 1483 01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:54.279 Wow. 1484 01:13:54.460 --> 01:13:55.119 A runaway. 1485 01:13:55.220 --> 01:13:58.819 Let's say runaway giant pumpkin takes over North Carolina. 1486 01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:00.560 OK, good. 1487 01:14:00.699 --> 01:14:04.279 That's a USA Today. They got a paywall. Screw them. 1488 01:14:04.340 --> 01:14:05.239 I hate those bastards. 1489 01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:06.300 Of course. 1490 01:14:08.220 --> 01:14:11.260 Well, no, you see them. You see their links all over. 1491 01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:13.500 But when you go, it's paywall system. 1492 01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:16.000 It's like, you know, don't even advertise. You're not going 1493 01:14:16.020 --> 01:14:16.869 to let people watch it. 1494 01:14:17.140 --> 01:14:19.220 Yeah, but see, they're not the ones who are advertising. 1495 01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:22.739 Those news apps are grabbing them. And they're probably paying 1496 01:14:22.779 --> 01:14:24.250 for positioning on the news app. 1497 01:14:25.050 --> 01:14:25.630 Let's see. 1498 01:14:25.770 --> 01:14:30.489 A giant runaway inflatable pumpkin presented a hilarious sight as 1499 01:14:30.550 --> 01:14:32.689 it barreled down a road in North Carolina holding up 1500 01:14:32.729 --> 01:14:37.699 traffic as people gathered to corral it. This is in Cary's, 1501 01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:41.819 which is just south of Raleigh. Daniel Webster was driving 1502 01:14:41.859 --> 01:14:44.760 with his wife and three-month-old daughter to visit Phillips Farms 1503 01:14:44.859 --> 01:14:48.569 Pumpkin Fest. in Cary on October 11th when he saw 1504 01:14:48.609 --> 01:14:52.010 the giant gourd tumbling toward his car. He told story 1505 01:14:52.050 --> 01:14:54.909 full video footage of the incident shows the inflatable rolling. 1506 01:14:54.689 --> 01:14:56.369 Around the road as a man tried to bring it 1507 01:14:56.430 --> 01:14:57.100 under control. 1508 01:14:57.909 --> 01:14:58.300 Nice. 1509 01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:02.100 Well, that's a feel good story. If I ever heard one, 1510 01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:04.199 we got one. 1511 01:15:04.619 --> 01:15:06.640 I saw one the other day and it surprised me 1512 01:15:06.659 --> 01:15:09.789 because it was on. It's in Switzerland, Switzerland. 1513 01:15:09.810 --> 01:15:10.130 They don't. 1514 01:15:11.310 --> 01:15:14.939 They said, well, They do and they don't celebrate Halloween. 1515 01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:20.340 It's becoming a bigger holiday as Halloween. But originally, in Switzerland, 1516 01:15:20.380 --> 01:15:24.560 was the Kervis Fest. And Kervis is just a gourd. 1517 01:15:25.380 --> 01:15:31.489 And so when I went over there, I landed, the 1518 01:15:31.529 --> 01:15:34.050 last time I went over, I landed the day before Halloween. 1519 01:15:35.010 --> 01:15:36.369 So we're driving around in the. 1520 01:15:38.869 --> 01:15:44.380 Countryside and there's a serve-yourself Gourd stand. We had all

1521 01:15:44.420 --> 01:15:47.000 different kinds of gourds. But, you know, Kervis is basically 1522 01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:52.100 pumpkin in English. And so we bought them. And my 1523 01:15:52.180 --> 01:15:58.539 mom had packaged up some carving kits for my girlfriend's daughter. 1524 01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:02.079 So we went and bought about six pumpkins. And we 1525 01:16:02.140 --> 01:16:05.470 sat there and carved all day long. And I just 1526 01:16:05.510 --> 01:16:06.310 thought it was strange. 1527 01:16:06.369 --> 01:16:06.789 I'm looking. 1528 01:16:06.829 --> 01:16:09.590 This was a huge pumpkin. It was like 600 pounds 1529 01:16:09.649 --> 01:16:12.510 or something. Let's see. if I can find it. 1530 01:16:12.939 --> 01:16:16.970 Well, I got another caller from California I want to 1531 01:16:17.090 --> 01:16:19.350 let on because I've never seen this number before. 1532 01:16:20.210 --> 01:16:21.090 Sure, let them on. 1533 01:16:21.130 --> 01:16:23.069 Yeah, I want to see what happens. 1534 01:16:23.069 --> 01:16:25.710 651 kilos, so that's about. 1535 01:16:25.770 --> 01:16:27.149 Hey, can you guys hear me? 1536 01:16:27.890 --> 01:16:31.659 Now we can, yep. All right, hey, yep. 1537 01:16:31.699 --> 01:16:34.039 Don't worry, I know I'm from California, but I'm not 1538 01:16:34.060 --> 01:16:35.279 your standard liberal. 1539 01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:37.180 That's fine. 1540 01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:43.270 My question is, To you guys, and this is just 1541 01:16:43.289 --> 01:16:45.720 something that I've tried to do a lot of research on, 1542 01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.189 and maybe you can give me some insight to it. 1543 01:16:48.220 --> 01:16:52.079 The whole Pete Hegseth wanting to bring back, per se, 1544 01:16:52.180 --> 01:16:56.220 live executions, is that something that you think will actually 1545 01:16:56.260 --> 01:16:56.920 come to pass? 1546 01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:01.149 No, Trump's already announced they're not going to do it. 1547 01:17:01.510 --> 01:17:05.109 Yeah, now just because Trump announced, here's where you get 1548 01:17:05.130 --> 01:17:08.210 a difference of opinion between us, okay? Just because Trump 1549 01:17:08.270 --> 01:17:11.310 announced something, I don't put any stock in what Trump announced. 1550 01:17:11.979 --> 01:17:14.770 Because whatever he says, he can go back on. 1551 01:17:14.819 --> 01:17:16.810 It just depends on what the highest bidder is, in 1552 01:17:16.850 --> 01:17:21.850 my opinion. But I would say this. I'm almost surprised. 1553 01:17:21.470 --> 01:17:25.890 We haven't had the firing squad offered as a return already. 1554 01:17:26.590 --> 01:17:29.449 Because of all the botched executions that have gone on 1555 01:17:29.989 --> 01:17:36.479 regarding the chemical solution. And again, I'm in this odd 1556 01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:39.920 position of I would like to support the death penalty. 1557 01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:44.319 Because I believe it's a balanced action, and it is 1558 01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:49.829 actually much more humane than imprisonment, in my opinion. But, see, 1559 01:17:49.890 --> 01:17:55.789 I'm a weirdo. So you're going to understand that, for me, 1560 01:17:55.890 --> 01:17:59.300 a mature society doesn't have prisons on its planet. 1561 01:18:00.380 --> 01:18:04.399 Okay? We don't require prisons. Jails are necessary, but they 1562 01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:08.300 are temporary. When you imprison a person and you lock 1563 01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:10.159 them in a cage for a long period of time, 1564 01:18:11.130 --> 01:18:14.060 you are going to alter them. You're going to alter 1565 01:18:14.100 --> 01:18:17.380 them in no positive way. There is nothing to be 1566 01:18:17.420 --> 01:18:22.340 gained from imprisonment. Either your crime rises to the level 1567 01:18:22.380 --> 01:18:26.090 of execution, or you can be rehabilitated. I believe there 1568 01:18:26.130 --> 01:18:28.890 is a line that can be drawn there. My problem, though, 1569 01:18:29.970 --> 01:18:32.670 is that I do not trust the system. The system 1570 01:18:32.729 --> 01:18:33.710 is not trustworthy. 1571 01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:37.539 Well, you know, I get that, you know, and it's 1572 01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:40.470 funny you say that. I have a buddy who works 1573 01:18:40.489 --> 01:18:44.630 at a correctional facility in Tracy, and the amount of 1574 01:18:44.689 --> 01:18:46.869 appeals that they have is absolutely just crazy. 1575 01:18:47.270 --> 01:18:49.609 He was actually walking. 1576 01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:52.960 And there was about, I guess on the road you 1577 01:18:52.979 --> 01:18:55.319 want to say, there's about 10 guys that are currently 1578 01:18:55.460 --> 01:18:58.100 in separate housing for just appeals. He walked by one 1579 01:18:58.119 --> 01:19:00.000 of them, and he was sucking his own cock. 1580 01:19:01.149 --> 01:19:06.310 Yeah, I have heard many a story from a correctional guy. Uh, 1581 01:19:06.609 --> 01:19:10.409 and you're, you're not talking about human beings anymore after 1582 01:19:10.430 --> 01:19:12.430 they're in prison for a certain amount of time, to 1583 01:19:12.449 --> 01:19:13.109 be honest with you. 1584 01:19:13.130 --> 01:19:15.130 I mean, it's insane. Yeah. 1585 01:19:15.569 --> 01:19:20.449 And my own personal experience in juvenile correction is enough 1586 01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:24.699 to teach me that, you know what, look up James Berg, 1587 01:19:24.739 --> 01:19:28.260 if you like in New Jersey, uh, you can also 1588 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:30.979 look up the lawsuit that's involved there. 1589 01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:34.640 Um, I mean, I myself was locked in isolation. I 1590 01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:36.399 do not to this day know how long I was 1591 01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:37.399 locked in isolation. 1592 01:19:38.779 --> 01:19:39.119 Really? 1593 01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:44.340 Okay. Because it will twist you, especially if they decide 1594 01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:46.979 to

play little mean games with you, like not feed you. 1595 01:19:47.300 --> 01:19:48.859 You have no way of tracking time. 1596 01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:49.140 Oh, yeah. 1597 01:19:49.420 --> 01:19:51.909 You have a light over your head 24 hours a day. 1598 01:19:52.850 --> 01:19:57.970 And this is torture. I'm sorry, but it is torture. 1599 01:19:57.989 --> 01:19:58.550 Go ahead. 1600 01:19:58.569 --> 01:19:59.489 Okay. 1601 01:20:00.770 --> 01:20:02.899 I mean, I personally think that's inhumane. 1602 01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:06.279 I guess my question is, is when you were in solitary, 1603 01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:11.079 what were the confinements of this? I mean, you know, 1604 01:20:11.579 --> 01:20:14.539 the light, but any human activity or nothing? 1605 01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:18.310 I heard very little noise at all. 1606 01:20:19.529 --> 01:20:19.869 Gotcha. 1607 01:20:19.930 --> 01:20:20.289 Okay. 1608 01:20:20.569 --> 01:20:21.810 Now, did you suck your own cock? 1609 01:20:22.829 --> 01:20:23.729 Not capable of it. 1610 01:20:25.130 --> 01:20:25.529 Gotcha. 1611 01:20:25.850 --> 01:20:27.390 Okay. 1612 01:20:27.470 --> 01:20:33.210 You're not going to shake me with that question. Hey, well, you. 1613 01:20:33.149 --> 01:20:33.930 Guys have a good night. 1614 01:20:34.210 --> 01:20:36.569 Absolutely, man. Thanks for calling in. Appreciate you. 1615 01:20:37.699 --> 01:20:40.279 So we'll go back to Danny because Chris is off 1616 01:20:40.300 --> 01:20:42.220 the line, but I've never been asked that on the 1617 01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:43.600 air before, BP. 1618 01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:46.930 Didn't quite expect it, but I think I handled it right. 1619 01:20:46.970 --> 01:20:47.520 What do you think? 1620 01:20:48.710 --> 01:20:49.970 I'm not even commenting on it. 1621 01:20:50.369 --> 01:20:51.210 Fair enough. Danny. 1622 01:20:52.810 --> 01:20:57.390 I'm still massively amazed at this 651 and a half 1623 01:20:57.489 --> 01:20:58.510 kilo pumpkin. 1624 01:20:58.789 --> 01:21:01.109 Yeah, well, you should be. So we'll go back to that. 1625 01:21:01.260 --> 01:21:01.600 Danny. 1626 01:21:03.100 --> 01:21:03.699 Yes, sir. 1627 01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:06.199 Well, I'm not going to ask you the question the 1628 01:21:06.220 --> 01:21:06.960 last caller asked. 1629 01:21:07.239 --> 01:21:07.340 Um. 1630 01:21:07.539 --> 01:21:08.800 No, no, no. 1631 01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:10.939 I don't even want to entertain it, but I do 1632 01:21:10.979 --> 01:21:15.300 know the correctional facility out of Tracy. And I actually 1633 01:21:15.340 --> 01:21:19.489 knew somebody who was a correctional officer there. And I 1634 01:21:19.529 --> 01:21:25.159 knew somebody that also spent time there. and if I 1635 01:21:25.229 --> 01:21:27.270 was in, I both went to high school with them, 1636 01:21:27.569 --> 01:21:32.010 and I thought the roles would be actually reversed, if 1637 01:21:32.050 --> 01:21:32.829 that makes sense. 1638 01:21:33.029 --> 01:21:36.409 Yeah,

no, to be honest with you, the guys that 1639 01:21:36.430 --> 01:21:41.640 were in charge of juvenile corrections in Jersey, they're all criminals, 1640 01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:47.560 or they were. They're all some sort of criminal. I'm 1641 01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:49.520 not going to go into any deeper description than that, 1642 01:21:49.619 --> 01:21:51.579 but I assure you, they are. 1643 01:21:52.729 --> 01:21:53.069 Or were. 1644 01:21:54.609 --> 01:21:58.789 Let me be more accurate. They were. In 1987, I 1645 01:21:58.829 --> 01:22:00.189 assure you, they were. 1646 01:22:02.180 --> 01:22:04.840 But, you know, look, I did my time, but I'm 1647 01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:07.239 not sure how much of my six months even to 1648 01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:13.180 this day was spent in solitary, in isolation, in a 1649 01:22:13.460 --> 01:22:16.810 box that was made of cement that I could lay 1650 01:22:17.090 --> 01:22:21.069 lengthwise in one direction being six feet tall, but not 1651 01:22:21.109 --> 01:22:25.329 the other. With a light 24 hours a day over 1652 01:22:25.390 --> 01:22:28.789 my head, a bare bulb, basically, that I could not reach. 1653 01:22:30.449 --> 01:22:33.770 And no, nothing but plain walls to look at. 1654 01:22:34.289 --> 01:22:35.770 I have a question. 1655 01:22:35.989 --> 01:22:36.289 Go ahead. 1656 01:22:36.590 --> 01:22:39.640 How old were you when this happened? 1657 01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:41.529 15. 1658 01:22:41.529 --> 01:22:43.439 That's criminal. 1659 01:22:43.819 --> 01:22:46.640 That should be allowed to be done to a 15-year-old. 1660 01:22:47.060 --> 01:22:48.460 No 15-year-old deserves that. 1661 01:22:49.180 --> 01:22:50.279 Yeah, it was commonplace then. 1662 01:22:51.399 --> 01:22:58.430 That's called sadism. I understand corrections. I understand punishment. I 1663 01:22:58.449 --> 01:22:59.449 understand reform. 1664 01:23:00.149 --> 01:23:01.250 But not cruel. 1665 01:23:01.350 --> 01:23:05.390 That's just being sadistic. The system should not be sadistic. 1666 01:23:05.489 --> 01:23:09.579 Our Constitution has this little provision under the Eighth Amendment 1667 01:23:09.699 --> 01:23:14.640 against cruel and unusual punishment. I assure you, if you 1668 01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:17.840 enter into a correctional facility in this country, you will 1669 01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:21.699 encounter cruel and unusual punishment if you spend any significant 1670 01:23:21.739 --> 01:23:24.819 time there. I'm not talking about a county jail. I'm 1671 01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:27.579 not talking about the drunk tank in your town. I'm 1672 01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:31.689 talking about if you're going to do time, you're going 1673 01:23:31.729 --> 01:23:32.779 to do time and. 1674 01:23:32.689 --> 01:23:34.159 You're going to encounter torture. 1675 01:23:34.590 --> 01:23:38.369 I consider it much more humane that if someone is 1676 01:23:38.390 --> 01:23:42.720 a severe enough criminal, To put them out of everybody's 1677 01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:48.600 misery is much less inhumane than what is done otherwise. 1678 01:23:50.039 --> 01:23:55.409 And again, this week, which I shared this with both 1679 01:23:55.430 --> 01:23:56.970 of you guys that are on the line right now, 1680 01:23:57.409 --> 01:24:00.449 and I do mean my co-host and Danny both. Personally, 1681 01:24:00.510 --> 01:24:03.250 before the show today, I definitely shared this with you guys. 1682 01:24:04.050 --> 01:24:08.619 And I mentioned it on last night's show, but quite frankly... 1683 01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:12.119 A guy that had served time for aggravated. 1684 01:24:11.699 --> 01:24:13.539 Assault attacked Mrs. O this week. 1685 01:24:15.420 --> 01:24:21.659 And at the moment, I am not empowered to deal 1686 01:24:21.699 --> 01:24:23.399 with the situation as I would like. 1687 01:24:24.970 --> 01:24:30.909 I will carefully choose my words here. But I also 1688 01:24:30.970 --> 01:24:34.350 know that this will turn you into some kind of animal. 1689 01:24:36.090 --> 01:24:36.229 And. 1690 01:24:37.500 --> 01:24:40.300 I don't think that's rehabilitation or correction. 1691 01:24:42.010 --> 01:24:45.069 So, you know, and I think it's gotten no better 1692 01:24:45.149 --> 01:24:47.050 under the for-profit prison system either. 1693 01:24:48.329 --> 01:24:49.289 Oh, yeah. 1694 01:24:49.310 --> 01:24:49.590 Okay. 1695 01:24:49.630 --> 01:24:51.489 And in the South where they tell you, look, here's 1696 01:24:51.529 --> 01:24:54.710 your budget. And if you feed the guy sawdust and 1697 01:24:54.750 --> 01:24:58.060 save money, you know, you can keep the food budget 1698 01:24:58.680 --> 01:24:59.640 surplus if you like. 1699 01:25:00.180 --> 01:25:01.539 And stuff like that goes on. 1700 01:25:02.460 --> 01:25:02.640 Yeah. 1701 01:25:02.680 --> 01:25:08.270 There's a whole lot of ins and outs to the treatment. Now, 1702 01:25:08.369 --> 01:25:11.210 and some people just dismiss it as, look, you acted 1703 01:25:11.270 --> 01:25:15.010 like a savage in society, so you deserve the treatment 1704 01:25:15.050 --> 01:25:18.810 you get. But what you're creating is a locked up 1705 01:25:19.069 --> 01:25:27.050 army of dangerous animals, frankly. And I am using that term, 1706 01:25:27.090 --> 01:25:29.090 and I know some people think that's racist, but it's 1707 01:25:29.140 --> 01:25:31.840 not about the race. I'm telling you that if you 1708 01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:36.140 do certain things to a human being, you will change them. 1709 01:25:37.199 --> 01:25:41.840 You will not change them for the better. So either 1710 01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:46.420 the crime reaches to the heights where you forfeited your 1711 01:25:46.579 --> 01:25:50.579 membership card to be breathing air, or there is a 1712 01:25:50.619 --> 01:25:54.590 way to rehabilitate you, but currently rehabilitation is not available. 1713 01:25:55.020 --> 01:25:58.250 And I again object to the death penalty currently because 1714 01:25:58.289

--> 01:26:01.409 I do not trust the system to execute the people 1715 01:26:01.449 --> 01:26:06.069 that need to be executed. And to not make the 1716 01:26:06.109 --> 01:26:07.710 mistake of executing the innocent. 1717 01:26:10.109 --> 01:26:15.609 Which I would. Gladly surrender a hundred criminals. To mercy. 1718 01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:21.420 Then kill one innocent man. But that again is my 1719 01:26:21.479 --> 01:26:23.619 moral conviction. Maybe yours varies. 1720 01:26:24.739 --> 01:26:27.000 And I know a lot of people's do. And a 1721 01:26:27.020 --> 01:26:29.960 lot of people figure. You do bad things. Bad things 1722 01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:31.140 happen to you. I get it. 1723 01:26:32.729 --> 01:26:32.899 But. 1724 01:26:33.819 --> 01:26:36.220 Why do you want to weaponize a human being? Because 1725 01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:40.199 that's what's being done. You're weaponizing a human being and 1726 01:26:40.220 --> 01:26:41.319 that human being. 1727 01:26:41.380 --> 01:26:44.180 Does not care about the target. It's just a matter 1728 01:26:44.359 --> 01:26:50.699 of access and proximity. And all you're doing is setting 1729 01:26:50.770 --> 01:26:53.489 off an explosive into society when you release these guys 1730 01:26:53.529 --> 01:26:54.170 most of the time. 1731 01:26:55.369 --> 01:26:57.430 Which is why the recidivism rate is what it is. 1732 01:26:59.210 --> 01:27:02.229 Don't believe me and don't take my position, but think 1733 01:27:02.289 --> 01:27:07.569 about it, please. Anyway, sorry, Danny. I felt like provoked. 1734 01:27:07.649 --> 01:27:10.310 I mean, you know, I'll discuss anything on here, even 1735 01:27:10.329 --> 01:27:12.109 the guy who asked me if I can pleasure myself 1736 01:27:12.149 --> 01:27:16.770 with my own mouth. But, you know, no, no, no, no, thanks. 1737 01:27:17.310 --> 01:27:20.430 I don't want to discuss that. And I've never done it. So, 1738 01:27:20.550 --> 01:27:22.829 you know, I can't speak from experience there. I can 1739 01:27:22.850 --> 01:27:26.229 speak from experience on this a little bit. You know, 1740 01:27:26.270 --> 01:27:28.569 and all I decided, by the way, after my experience 1741 01:27:28.630 --> 01:27:32.600 in juvenile was, yeah, don't get caught again. You know, 1742 01:27:33.079 --> 01:27:35.560 that was really and I got to tell you, that 1743 01:27:35.579 --> 01:27:39.539 seems to be the overall attempt most people make. They're 1744 01:27:39.579 --> 01:27:43.470 just not all as clever as I was. Right. 1745 01:27:43.979 --> 01:27:47.329 Because, you know, frankly, I never got arrested for drugs. 1746 01:27:47.529 --> 01:27:51.829 I probably handled metric tons worth of drugs without a problem, 1747 01:27:52.949 --> 01:27:54.970 you know, and never, ever. 1748 01:27:54.829 --> 01:27:57.960 Was even busted with a possession charge. Not even as 1749 01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:03.199 a juvenile. And I have zero, zero adult criminal record. Okay. 1750 01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:08.350

So, and frankly, that's not the truth of my behavior 1751 01:28:08.710 --> 01:28:12.850 in my earlier life. I just decided, yeah, no more 1752 01:28:12.890 --> 01:28:18.470 getting caught. So, you know, same thing stands for guys 1753 01:28:18.489 --> 01:28:22.649 who do other awful things to people directly. They decide 1754 01:28:22.850 --> 01:28:26.199 no more getting caught. And then you see desperate situations 1755 01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:28.439 and shootouts and all kinds of things because I ain't 1756 01:28:28.460 --> 01:28:29.260 going back to prison. 1757 01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:31.680 You can kill me, but you ain't putting me back 1758 01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:36.729 in there. Like I say, more humane. Anyway, sorry. I 1759 01:28:36.770 --> 01:28:39.130 just I keep going off on this thing. Stop me, Danny. 1760 01:28:39.170 --> 01:28:42.000 Go talk about something. else you got any more giant pumpkins. 1761 01:28:43.220 --> 01:28:46.989 Yeah i'm uh i i just i just think in 1762 01:28:47.069 --> 01:28:50.010 october i'm seeing all the pumpkins i mean i put 1763 01:28:50.069 --> 01:28:53.649 a few to decorate my house and And I just 1764 01:28:53.670 --> 01:28:58.409 saw those articles on ABC News, and it's like North Carolina. 1765 01:28:58.430 --> 01:29:03.430 I go, that's kind of near BP, you know, or close. 1766 01:29:03.770 --> 01:29:05.970 Yeah, no, same state as him. Can I ask you 1767 01:29:06.010 --> 01:29:07.850 a question, Danny? Actually, it occurs to me. 1768 01:29:09.130 --> 01:29:09.430 Please. 1769 01:29:09.569 --> 01:29:13.689 Do you guys have trick-or-treaters in California anymore? You do? 1770 01:29:13.909 --> 01:29:14.189 Yes. 1771 01:29:14.930 --> 01:29:15.289 Yeah. 1772 01:29:15.649 --> 01:29:16.729 Yes. Wow. 1773 01:29:16.869 --> 01:29:20.289 Okay. BP, do you have trick-or-treaters in North Carolina anymore? 1774 01:29:23.189 --> 01:29:26.449 I haven't had a trick-or-treater in, oh, God. 1775 01:29:26.949 --> 01:29:28.069 Five years at least. 1776 01:29:28.930 --> 01:29:32.149 No, but more than that. More. Probably 10 or 15 years. 1777 01:29:32.149 --> 01:29:34.680 10 years. See? 10 or 15. 1778 01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:35.899 Now, there has been. 1779 01:29:35.979 --> 01:29:38.060 And we have kids in the neighborhood, but what they 1780 01:29:38.079 --> 01:29:40.260 do around here is they have these organized things. 1781 01:29:40.340 --> 01:29:40.859 Back when. 1782 01:29:41.460 --> 01:29:45.100 Right, they do trunk or treat. Trunk or treat or whatever, yeah. 1783 01:29:45.500 --> 01:29:47.699 What gets me is most of them are sponsored by churches. 1784 01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:48.739 I find that hilarious. 1785 01:29:48.979 --> 01:29:51.800 Oh, yeah. No, that's all we have here in Georgia, too. 1786 01:29:52.060 --> 01:29:54.699 Same thing. You can go to a church parking lot. 1787 01:29:55.800 --> 01:29:58.439 And people open up the backs of their SUVs and 1788 01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:00.479 you can stop at the different cars in the parking 1789 01:30:00.520 --> 01:30:02.039 lot with your kids if you want. 1790 01:30:04.140 --> 01:30:06.380 And it's open to more than just the church usually. 1791 01:30:07.020 --> 01:30:12.699 So like the public is welcome, kind of. So I 1792 01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:15.819 brought Frankie to a couple of those. But yeah, we 1793 01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:17.930 don't have trick or treat anymore. Like there's no door 1794 01:30:17.939 --> 01:30:18.600 to door, nothing. 1795 01:30:20.069 --> 01:30:20.670 I mean, nothing. 1796 01:30:21.869 --> 01:30:24.909 And towns have literal bans on it, and it's not 1797 01:30:24.949 --> 01:30:27.210 just COVID-related, just so everybody knows. 1798 01:30:28.029 --> 01:30:30.470 It was before that, and it got stopped. And I 1799 01:30:30.510 --> 01:30:32.770 was thinking at least five years ago, and I've heard 1800 01:30:32.810 --> 01:30:35.859 that all up and down the East Coast, and yet, Danny, 1801 01:30:35.880 --> 01:30:37.840 you got kids that come to your house? 1802 01:30:39.020 --> 01:30:45.159 Actually, yeah, I do. But my particular neighborhood for years... we. 1803 01:30:45.020 --> 01:30:48.260 Would have very few trick-or-treaters. But it seems like the 1804 01:30:48.319 --> 01:30:50.800 last couple of years, we're getting more and more. 1805 01:30:51.159 --> 01:30:51.460 Really? 1806 01:30:51.500 --> 01:30:54.899 There come trick-or-treating. And there are neighborhoods where my. 1807 01:30:54.800 --> 01:30:56.800 Daughter lived in East Sacramento. 1808 01:30:57.079 --> 01:30:58.239 Yeah. 1809 01:30:58.600 --> 01:31:01.020 That place was a madhouse with trick-or-treaters. 1810 01:31:01.319 --> 01:31:01.520 Yeah. 1811 01:31:01.539 --> 01:31:04.439 There are certain places, pockets. Now, they do have the 1812 01:31:04.550 --> 01:31:08.710 church or the harvest festivals or like I was going 1813 01:31:08.729 --> 01:31:11.350 to talking about going up my son's to go because 1814 01:31:11.409 --> 01:31:13.489 it's a saturday night and he says oh we've got 1815 01:31:13.529 --> 01:31:15.430 a party they got a big like block party for 1816 01:31:15.470 --> 01:31:18.449 trick-or-treating you know kind of more for safety reasons but 1817 01:31:19.050 --> 01:31:22.470 it's been it's been getting i'm noticing every year slowly 1818 01:31:22.510 --> 01:31:25.470 it's been taking up that kids want to trick-or-treat and 1819 01:31:25.510 --> 01:31:27.649 a lot of teenagers you know and then when i 1820 01:31:27.689 --> 01:31:30.640 was a kid we did a lot of trick-or-treating it 1821 01:31:30.649 --> 01:31:33.220 was a little town right and we knew everybody and 1822 01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:34.880 it was it was a lot of fun. 1823 01:31:35.880 --> 01:31:38.340 Well, forget about going back to the old days. 1824 01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:41.439 OK, like 10 years ago when I moved to Georgia, 1825 01:31:43.630 --> 01:31:47.609 I thought, oh, crap, because I was broke. And man, 1826 01:31:47.689 --> 01:31:49.750

I'm going to be stuck here because there's no way 1827 01:31:50.529 --> 01:31:53.069 I'm going to have money to even buy candy. 1828 01:31:53.130 --> 01:31:55.289 I had no extra money. So I'm like, oh, crap. 1829 01:31:55.329 --> 01:31:57.130 People are good. Kids are going to knock on my door. 1830 01:31:57.170 --> 01:31:57.829 I got nothing. 1831 01:31:58.590 --> 01:32:02.270 I was taking and putting pennies in bags. You know, 1832 01:32:02.350 --> 01:32:04.470 which was an old sort of thing that people used 1833 01:32:04.510 --> 01:32:07.010 to do when I was a kid, where sometimes you 1834 01:32:07.029 --> 01:32:08.689 get a little bit of money in your bag. 1835 01:32:09.710 --> 01:32:11.170 From some people, a couple of coins. 1836 01:32:11.310 --> 01:32:11.550 Right. 1837 01:32:12.939 --> 01:32:14.720 So I was, you know, all I had was the 1838 01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:16.939 pennies in a freaking water bottle. 1839 01:32:17.460 --> 01:32:19.300 So I'm sitting there bundling up pennies. 1840 01:32:19.420 --> 01:32:22.619 I did this like for hours, bundling them up in 1841 01:32:22.659 --> 01:32:24.850 little plastics because I had like no money to go 1842 01:32:24.890 --> 01:32:27.550 buy candy. I couldn't even even if I wanted to 1843 01:32:27.590 --> 01:32:29.489 roll this crap up or take it to Coinstar, I 1844 01:32:29.529 --> 01:32:31.789 wasn't going to get very much candy. So I thought 1845 01:32:31.949 --> 01:32:33.710 I could do better just giving them the pennies, giving 1846 01:32:33.729 --> 01:32:38.270 them handfuls of pennies. You know, just so at least 1847 01:32:38.310 --> 01:32:41.319 I was giving them something. So I bundled all this up. 1848 01:32:41.380 --> 01:32:43.279 I put it in a bowl. I sat by the door. 1849 01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:48.420 And you know who showed up? Nobody. I was like, wow. 1850 01:32:49.239 --> 01:32:51.560 But when I was in North Carolina the year before, 1851 01:32:52.539 --> 01:32:56.140 there was trick-or-treaters. Not a lot, but there was a few. 1852 01:32:56.359 --> 01:32:59.050 And it was like 10 years ago. All stop. 1853 01:32:59.149 --> 01:33:01.569 And when I came to Georgia, I have not had 1854 01:33:02.569 --> 01:33:05.880 but like three trick or treaters knock on my door 1855 01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:09.140 in 10 years. And the reason why they knocked on 1856 01:33:09.180 --> 01:33:11.600 my door is because they were kids who knew my kid. 1857 01:33:13.079 --> 01:33:15.319 And they were like down the street and trying to 1858 01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:16.100 find a place to. 1859 01:33:16.060 --> 01:33:16.560 Trick or treat. 1860 01:33:17.579 --> 01:33:21.670 So like I already knew they were coming and they 1861 01:33:21.710 --> 01:33:22.840 were the only ones that showed up. 1862 01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:24.699 And that's it. 1863 01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:27.770 Other than that, there's no random kids that show up. 1864 01:33:27.859 --> 01:33:29.090 There's none of that here. 1865 01:33:29.670 --> 01:33:32.569 Yeah, we've got kids across the street in the house, 1866 01:33:32.630 --> 01:33:35.010 so it's probably four or five. 1867 01:33:35.149 --> 01:33:37.149 I don't know where they go. I think they go 1868 01:33:37.189 --> 01:33:37.989 to their church. 1869 01:33:39.390 --> 01:33:42.630 But otherwise, everybody else on my street, you know, middle-aged 1870 01:33:42.789 --> 01:33:46.189 or retired with no kids, so not a lot of 1871 01:33:46.220 --> 01:33:49.220 kids in the neighborhoods. Now, go on the other side 1872 01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:51.659 of Church Street, yeah, those neighborhoods over there, they've all 1873 01:33:51.699 --> 01:33:55.050 got kids, and they all trick-or-treat that way, but I 1874 01:33:55.050 --> 01:33:56.909 don't even cut my light on outside. 1875 01:33:57.710 --> 01:33:59.550 It was, there's the other thing. 1876 01:33:59.829 --> 01:34:00.029 Yeah. 1877 01:34:00.050 --> 01:34:01.449 You used to be able to do that where you 1878 01:34:01.470 --> 01:34:03.829 just cut your light off or they used to do 1879 01:34:03.869 --> 01:34:06.109 the thing. Uh, there, there was a thing where you 1880 01:34:06.130 --> 01:34:08.470 had to put like, you know, a stupid paper pumpkin 1881 01:34:08.510 --> 01:34:09.850 in your, uh, in your window. 1882 01:34:09.939 --> 01:34:10.149 Right. 1883 01:34:10.739 --> 01:34:12.819 Which let kids know it was okay to knock on 1884 01:34:12.859 --> 01:34:19.000 your door. Uh, but it's like gone. It's just evaporated. 1885 01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:21.119 And like I said, it was long before COVID, uh, 1886 01:34:22.319 --> 01:34:25.579 uh just gone here in this region for sure and 1887 01:34:25.619 --> 01:34:27.699 i asked about it up in jersey to a couple 1888 01:34:27.739 --> 01:34:30.970 people and uh gone there too so i don't know 1889 01:34:31.590 --> 01:34:34.869 but but somehow like i said danny's talking about it 1890 01:34:34.909 --> 01:34:37.109 like it's still a thing in california and in fact 1891 01:34:37.289 --> 01:34:40.770 on the uptick in his neighborhood I don't know what 1892 01:34:40.789 --> 01:34:45.369 that means. But anyway, Danny, interesting thought there, though, about how. 1893 01:34:45.250 --> 01:34:46.010 Things have changed. 1894 01:34:46.050 --> 01:34:47.399 Go ahead. 1895 01:34:47.649 --> 01:34:49.880 There's kind of an evolution. I mean, for years, we 1896 01:34:49.899 --> 01:34:54.720 didn't get many, but it's been picking up. And a 1897 01:34:54.779 --> 01:34:57.279 lot of times I was working, so I didn't see 1898 01:34:58.079 --> 01:35:00.100 the volume, but I bought the candy. My wife would 1899 01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:03.550 tell me what it is. But yeah, it's been up. 1900 01:35:03.729 --> 01:35:05.470 I mean, a lot of people are now putting up 1901 01:35:05.510 --> 01:35:08.029 like Halloween decorations, which is a thing. 1902 01:35:08.859 --> 01:35:10.260 My wife's ordered some stuff. 1903 01:35:10.300 --> 01:35:13.000 She's got, like, a blow-up witch

and a Frankenstein. She 1904 01:35:13.039 --> 01:35:15.659 had one where she showed, like, there's a cow being 1905 01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:20.949 abducted in the UFO that she's thinking about wanting to get. But, yeah, 1906 01:35:21.090 --> 01:35:26.289 the kids enjoy it. Like, I'm seeing a little bit 1907 01:35:26.310 --> 01:35:28.340 of a trend where some kids are wanting to go 1908 01:35:28.399 --> 01:35:29.279 out and just trick-or-treat. 1909 01:35:29.300 --> 01:35:30.060 Yeah. 1910 01:35:31.039 --> 01:35:33.760 Well, I don't know. You know, BP, a quick question 1911 01:35:33.779 --> 01:35:34.039 to you. 1912 01:35:34.279 --> 01:35:37.399 Do you think it's possible that we're seeing more of 1913 01:35:37.579 --> 01:35:43.510 a decline in this and non-existence because specifically we're in like, 1914 01:35:43.550 --> 01:35:47.210 you know, the Bible Belt type states? Because I hear 1915 01:35:47.250 --> 01:35:50.970 a lot of chatter about Halloween, or I used to. 1916 01:35:51.069 --> 01:35:53.750 That it was all, you know, evil and satanic and everything. 1917 01:35:53.829 --> 01:35:56.050 So therefore, no good. 1918 01:35:57.250 --> 01:36:00.029 Which is why the churches, because every minister would try 1919 01:36:00.069 --> 01:36:01.409 to get me to go to their church if I 1920 01:36:01.449 --> 01:36:04.329 showed up at Trunk or Treat with Frankie. And they 1921 01:36:04.350 --> 01:36:06.390 would tell me about how Halloween was evil, but at 1922 01:36:06.430 --> 01:36:08.529 least if they did it there at the church, it 1923 01:36:08.569 --> 01:36:12.319 was okay. You know, and all that kind of good stuff. 1924 01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:14.239 And oh, by the way, you ought to attend a sermon. 1925 01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:17.439 And plus, you got to pray in between occasionally at 1926 01:36:17.460 --> 01:36:18.180 some of these places. 1927 01:36:19.380 --> 01:36:23.420 But stuff like that would be peaked. I don't know. 1928 01:36:23.680 --> 01:36:25.800 I think it's more of a change in– when we 1929 01:36:25.819 --> 01:36:26.039 grew up. 1930 01:36:31.750 --> 01:36:34.890 You know, especially on the weekends, Saturday morning, once cartoons 1931 01:36:34.909 --> 01:36:36.710 were done, you were gone. You were on your bike 1932 01:36:36.750 --> 01:36:38.529 and you were either playing ball or you were over 1933 01:36:38.550 --> 01:36:40.609 at a friend's house, but you were gone all day. 1934 01:36:41.449 --> 01:36:43.470 And those days don't exist anymore. 1935 01:36:43.590 --> 01:36:45.710 You know, if you let what we had one lady 1936 01:36:45.750 --> 01:36:49.380 that got arrested for letting her kid walk down to 1937 01:36:49.399 --> 01:36:52.199 the pond in their gated community with security. 1938 01:36:52.939 --> 01:36:55.739 And, you know, someone made a complaint. You know, we 1939 01:36:55.800 --> 01:36:56.840 used to drive to school. 1940 01:36:57.909 --> 01:37:01.060 With shotguns in the back glass of our pickup trucks 1941 01:37:01.140 --> 01:37:04.979 because we'd go hunting either before school or after. Now, 1942 01:37:05.060 --> 01:37:06.680 if a kid shows up with a gun in his 1943 01:37:06.859 --> 01:37:10.079 pickup truck at school, the SWAT team gets called out. 1944 01:37:10.159 --> 01:37:12.729 So I think it's more of a change of what 1945 01:37:12.829 --> 01:37:15.810 kids are not allowed to do anymore. 1946 01:37:16.329 --> 01:37:16.729 You know, I. 1947 01:37:18.229 --> 01:37:20.939 Think it's more that than any changes in education. 1948 01:37:21.689 --> 01:37:25.810 Churches and whether it has the evil connotations that it 1949 01:37:25.869 --> 01:37:30.220 had years ago um it's more of people controlling their 1950 01:37:30.260 --> 01:37:33.739 kids where they go who they who they associate with 1951 01:37:33.859 --> 01:37:35.859 and you don't have to worry about them walking down 1952 01:37:35.880 --> 01:37:39.159 the street and some bunch of 15 year olds come 1953 01:37:39.220 --> 01:37:42.649 along and mug them for their candy Yeah, that. 1954 01:37:42.609 --> 01:37:43.430 Used to happen, too. 1955 01:37:43.489 --> 01:37:46.390 But, you know, it's interesting to me because it almost 1956 01:37:46.409 --> 01:37:49.750 seems like the reverse argument is going on here between 1957 01:37:49.810 --> 01:37:52.789 you and Danny. And here's why I say that liberals 1958 01:37:53.369 --> 01:37:59.270 are typically more of the helicopter parents. They are typically 1959 01:37:59.409 --> 01:38:03.880 more all over controlling what their kids do, whereas your 1960 01:38:03.939 --> 01:38:06.859 red state parents are more about go let them get dirty. 1961 01:38:07.729 --> 01:38:09.279 And this kind of thing, right? 1962 01:38:09.779 --> 01:38:11.859 Well, something else has changed over time, too. 1963 01:38:11.920 --> 01:38:13.600 People used to know who their neighbors were. 1964 01:38:14.319 --> 01:38:16.380 You know, they knew who they were, where they worked, 1965 01:38:16.479 --> 01:38:19.479 what they did. They associated with each other. 1966 01:38:19.539 --> 01:38:22.470 We've closed ourselves off now that, you know, half the 1967 01:38:22.510 --> 01:38:24.090 people on my street, I don't even know. 1968 01:38:24.109 --> 01:38:26.510 But I think that prevails. 1969 01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:28.600 Everywhere, right? 1970 01:38:29.340 --> 01:38:32.920 But what I'm saying is that you're seeing that change 1971 01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:37.279 of people used to be familiar with everybody in their neighborhoods, 1972 01:38:37.359 --> 01:38:42.550 and now with all the weirdos out there, people are 1973 01:38:42.590 --> 01:38:45.189 really concerned about where their kids are going and who 1974 01:38:45.229 --> 01:38:46.229 has access to them. 1975 01:38:46.529 --> 01:38:49.270 That's changed considerably from when we were growing up. 1976 01:38:49.510 --> 01:38:53.380 But again, the people that are more authoritarian toward their 1977 01:38:53.399 --> 01:38:57.119

kids and controlling what it is they do and conflict 1978 01:38:57.159 --> 01:39:00.460 resolution and everything else, again, you know, Danny, I'm not 1979 01:39:00.500 --> 01:39:03.920 trying to offend you here, but quite frankly, somebody more 1980 01:39:03.960 --> 01:39:07.920 of your liberal persuasion is usually a greater control parent. 1981 01:39:10.329 --> 01:39:14.750 And yet you have less of this activity, which seems 1982 01:39:14.789 --> 01:39:16.989 to be a little more of the old school sort 1983 01:39:17.050 --> 01:39:19.479 of let them go and do their thing, when it 1984 01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:21.840 comes to trick-or-treating happening in guess what? 1985 01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:22.699 California. 1986 01:39:24.319 --> 01:39:24.720 Okay. 1987 01:39:25.119 --> 01:39:27.470 Which is weird to me. It's almost like it should 1988 01:39:27.479 --> 01:39:29.119 be the other way around. That's why I asked, is 1989 01:39:29.199 --> 01:39:31.729 it the Bible belt issue or what? 1990 01:39:32.329 --> 01:39:32.590 Yeah. 1991 01:39:32.630 --> 01:39:35.090 But no, I think it's less Bible belt. You've got, 1992 01:39:35.149 --> 01:39:37.329 you know, a lot of those places. If you look, 1993 01:39:37.909 --> 01:39:40.210 the parents are stopping out at the sidewalk while the 1994 01:39:40.250 --> 01:39:41.369 kids walk up to the house. 1995 01:39:41.689 --> 01:39:44.029 Well, yeah, but I mean, that happened everywhere when I 1996 01:39:44.069 --> 01:39:46.069 was a kid too, where you had some parents that 1997 01:39:46.109 --> 01:39:47.529 went with the kids and then there was a kids 1998 01:39:47.550 --> 01:39:48.310 that were on their own. 1999 01:39:49.449 --> 01:39:51.010 Not in our group. 2000 01:39:51.109 --> 01:39:53.479 It was, okay, you older ones, you take these younger 2001 01:39:53.609 --> 01:39:56.409 ones out, you make one lap in the neighborhood, bring 2002 01:39:56.479 --> 01:39:58.920 them home, and then you can go trick-or-treating. 2003 01:39:58.979 --> 01:40:01.340 Well, yeah, but that was what it used to be 2004 01:40:01.420 --> 01:40:05.119 like because the parents weren't there. But there was also 2005 01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:07.819 groups where you saw the parents there because their kids 2006 01:40:07.859 --> 01:40:10.840 were still too young. They didn't have the supervisor kid yet. 2007 01:40:11.039 --> 01:40:13.039 You know what I mean? They hadn't aged up yet. 2008 01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:17.770 They might even be carrying one of the trick-or-treater kids, right? Because, 2009 01:40:17.810 --> 01:40:20.229 you know, they couldn't walk more than a block without 2010 01:40:20.289 --> 01:40:21.369 getting tired and cranky. 2011 01:40:22.590 --> 01:40:25.710 I got to tell you a funny story. Growing up, 2012 01:40:26.489 --> 01:40:28.369 my dad was in the Navy. So we lived in 2013 01:40:28.449 --> 01:40:29.770 on base housing for a while. 2014 01:40:30.189 --> 01:40:30.390 Right. 2015 01:40:30.529 --> 01:40:34.489 And up in

Bremerton, where I was born, there was 2016 01:40:34.560 --> 01:40:36.720 high rises. I think there were 12 stories high. 2017 01:40:37.060 --> 01:40:37.319 Right. 2018 01:40:37.659 --> 01:40:41.470 And my dad and his buddy off the ship. volunteered 2019 01:40:41.510 --> 01:40:43.750 to take the kids trick-or-treating and you just went floor 2020 01:40:43.770 --> 01:40:46.529 to floor in your own building hell 12 stories you 2021 01:40:46.569 --> 01:40:48.439 know you're full of candy by the time you get 2022 01:40:48.479 --> 01:40:51.659 halfway up the building well my dad and his friend 2023 01:40:51.680 --> 01:40:54.600 took shot glasses with them so when they'd knock on 2024 01:40:54.619 --> 01:40:57.380 the door and trick-or-treat the kids would get their get 2025 01:40:57.399 --> 01:41:00.640 their candy and dad and his buddy would get a 2026 01:41:00.680 --> 01:41:03.920 shot i mean that was the ongoing thing and my 2027 01:41:03.939 --> 01:41:05.399 mom told me she goes yeah. 2028 01:41:05.869 --> 01:41:08.109 She says, we put a stop to that after the 2029 01:41:08.170 --> 01:41:08.710 first year. 2030 01:41:10.170 --> 01:41:12.029 Your dad and his friend only made it to the 2031 01:41:12.069 --> 01:41:14.909 third floor, and I get a phone call. I had 2032 01:41:14.949 --> 01:41:17.060 to take over trick-or-treating because they were drunk. 2033 01:41:17.409 --> 01:41:17.619 Yep. 2034 01:41:18.640 --> 01:41:21.899 I thought, yeah, I can see these two going door-to-door, trick-or-treating, 2035 01:41:22.380 --> 01:41:23.619 shoving the shot glass out. 2036 01:41:23.939 --> 01:41:27.220 Now, there are different versions of that in different places, but, yeah, 2037 01:41:27.260 --> 01:41:30.270 there is the shot or the beer version. You ever 2038 01:41:30.310 --> 01:41:36.210 see the beer crawl on that? That's hilarious. And dad's 2039 01:41:36.250 --> 01:41:38.489 too drunk. So, of course, mom's got to take over. 2040 01:41:38.529 --> 01:41:42.430 That's funny. I love that. Meanwhile, we got Jimmy James 2041 01:41:42.529 --> 01:41:44.149 on the line. So I think we should hear from 2042 01:41:44.189 --> 01:41:46.109 him as well. I put Danny on hold because he 2043 01:41:46.149 --> 01:41:48.890 was echoing a bit. But we'll get back to you, Danny. 2044 01:41:48.930 --> 01:41:53.439 Hang on. Jimmy James, you're live. What's going on, man? 2045 01:41:55.649 --> 01:41:56.460 Hey, fellas. 2046 01:41:56.560 --> 01:41:57.920 Can you hear me all right? 2047 01:41:58.020 --> 01:41:58.399 I can. 2048 01:41:58.640 --> 01:41:59.739 Meepi, can you hear Jimmy? 2049 01:42:00.500 --> 01:42:01.220 Yeah, I got it. 2050 01:42:01.260 --> 01:42:02.579 Yep, we got. 2051 01:42:04.979 --> 01:42:05.800 You. 2052 01:42:06.260 --> 01:42:11.100 Well, what happened today? I took a little nappy. 2053 01:42:11.789 --> 01:42:14.609 Okay. Then I spent the last hour. 2054 01:42:14.210 --> 01:42:18.029 Going out, took the dog out, lost a couple hubcaps. 2055 01:42:19.550 --> 01:42:26.039 Had to go find my hubcaps. Yeah. God only knows that, man, 2056 01:42:26.119 --> 01:42:28.050 I got a feeling I'm going to wake up to 2057 01:42:28.090 --> 01:42:28.930 a flat tire. 2058 01:42:31.270 --> 01:42:33.670 My only question is, why does your dog have hubcaps? 2059 01:42:37.210 --> 01:42:39.569 Took my dog to go poop. 2060 01:42:41.279 --> 01:42:41.680 Okay. 2061 01:42:41.960 --> 01:42:43.220 And he. 2062 01:42:44.399 --> 01:42:46.220 Sits so hard it knocks your hubcaps off? 2063 01:42:50.460 --> 01:42:51.119 Well, I'm not. 2064 01:42:51.699 --> 01:42:54.680 No, there's a place he goes. He won't go in 2065 01:42:54.800 --> 01:42:56.779 the earth. 2066 01:42:56.859 --> 01:42:57.180 Okay. 2067 01:42:57.199 --> 01:42:59.310 So you got to drive him to a spot where 2068 01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:02.010 he wants to drop a deuce then, yeah? 2069 01:43:03.710 --> 01:43:04.449 That's correct. 2070 01:43:04.989 --> 01:43:06.270 Oh, okay. Now I'm getting it. 2071 01:43:06.289 --> 01:43:08.529 Jimmy, how pampered is this dog? 2072 01:43:11.810 --> 01:43:13.670 I love Jimmy James' animal stories. 2073 01:43:13.689 --> 01:43:17.810 I'm sorry, Fido, but the grass is not compatible with 2074 01:43:17.850 --> 01:43:18.149 your butt. 2075 01:43:19.090 --> 01:43:20.750 Let's drive down the road a ways. 2076 01:43:22.510 --> 01:43:24.229 No worms over here there, Duke. 2077 01:43:25.420 --> 01:43:28.359 Jesus. What, you got a poodle? 2078 01:43:29.779 --> 01:43:33.260 Don't you have a brindle, like, looking dog? 2079 01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:34.359 Yes, I do. 2080 01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:35.520 Yes, I do. 2081 01:43:35.539 --> 01:43:36.220 That's what I thought. 2082 01:43:36.399 --> 01:43:36.840 Okay. 2083 01:43:37.500 --> 01:43:38.359 Freaking poodle. 2084 01:43:39.310 --> 01:43:40.970 No, that's not a poodle, believe me. 2085 01:43:42.289 --> 01:43:43.050 A poodle? 2086 01:43:44.090 --> 01:43:44.649 You're crazy. 2087 01:43:44.829 --> 01:43:46.630 Can you imagine Jimmy James with a poodle? 2088 01:43:47.489 --> 01:43:47.829 Yeah. Yeah. 2089 01:43:48.630 --> 01:43:49.170 I can. 2090 01:43:49.670 --> 01:43:52.729 And one that's so sensitive that he can't poop just anywhere. 2091 01:43:52.750 --> 01:43:55.770 And he lost. 2092 01:43:55.520 --> 01:43:57.020 His hubcaps in the process. 2093 01:43:57.079 --> 01:43:58.300 No, no, no. 2094 01:43:58.359 --> 01:44:01.760 That's his training. He knows better than the crap in 2095 01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:02.340 my yard. 2096 01:44:03.300 --> 01:44:04.159 Jesus. 2097 01:44:05.020 --> 01:44:09.850 You see Jimmy standing there with a steaming plastic bag 2098 01:44:10.510 --> 01:44:11.489 of poodle poop. 2099 01:44:12.850 --> 01:44:14.109 What? 2100 01:44:16.859 --> 01:44:17.500 That's bad. 2101 01:44:17.840 --> 01:44:18.300 Poodle. 2102 01:44:18.560 --> 01:44:20.680 Jimmy, I don't know if I remember that. 2103 01:44:20.720 --> 01:44:22.119 More like a dire wolf. 2104 01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:23.350 You should meet

Mr. 2105 01:44:23.399 --> 01:44:23.819 Search. 2106 01:44:25.060 --> 01:44:27.289 I bet you that dog poops the size of a poodle. 2107 01:44:27.310 --> 01:44:27.970 Are you kidding me? 2108 01:44:30.210 --> 01:44:32.869 Start a new line of Jimmy James poodle pampers. 2109 01:44:34.909 --> 01:44:36.750 What the hell? 2110 01:44:37.369 --> 01:44:40.109 Why is it every time Jimmy James talks about animals, 2111 01:44:40.189 --> 01:44:41.369 I can't stop laughing? 2112 01:44:42.329 --> 01:44:43.109 Oh, my God. 2113 01:44:44.090 --> 01:44:46.270 He shit so hard he knocked the hubcaps off the 2114 01:44:46.310 --> 01:44:47.109 neighbor's car. 2115 01:44:47.810 --> 01:44:48.600 No, his car. 2116 01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:50.000 He was looking for his hubcaps. 2117 01:44:52.560 --> 01:44:54.319 Holy crap. 2118 01:44:55.920 --> 01:44:56.359 Literally. 2119 01:44:57.220 --> 01:45:06.529 Look, the entranceway to the parking lot was there's a 2120 01:45:06.550 --> 01:45:08.710 bunch of stupid trucks in the way. 2121 01:45:08.890 --> 01:45:09.529 I don't know. 2122 01:45:09.569 --> 01:45:12.449 Looks like they're cutting trees or some crap. So I 2123 01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:18.479 came through the back, through the trail, some jerko. Smell 2124 01:45:18.500 --> 01:45:22.319 of the nights, I can't see nothing. I ran over 2125 01:45:22.380 --> 01:45:25.420 a log, you know, a real log. 2126 01:45:27.899 --> 01:45:31.119 Do you not have headlights? You're worried about hubcaps, and 2127 01:45:31.159 --> 01:45:32.199 you don't even have headlights? 2128 01:45:32.220 --> 01:45:32.279 No. 2129 01:45:35.470 --> 01:45:38.430 I have lights. 2130 01:45:38.829 --> 01:45:40.869 Maybe you should put the lights on your hubcaps. That 2131 01:45:40.909 --> 01:45:42.109 way it'll be easier to find. 2132 01:45:44.350 --> 01:45:49.529 Well, the lights were on, but I can't see, you know, 2133 01:45:50.069 --> 01:45:51.529 the ground in front. 2134 01:45:52.250 --> 01:45:55.289 It's the woods. 2135 01:45:56.069 --> 01:45:58.789 What are you, nuts? I could have ran over Bigfoot 2136 01:45:58.850 --> 01:45:59.880 and wouldn't have even known it. 2137 01:46:02.909 --> 01:46:09.000 I could have ran over Bigfoot and not even known it. Jimmy, 2138 01:46:09.380 --> 01:46:22.930 you are fucking hilarious. Oh, my God. The delivery is 2139 01:46:23.329 --> 01:46:27.369 the best. I just can't. I needed to laugh, though, 2140 01:46:27.430 --> 01:46:34.060 although it's hurting me a bit. This is funny. And, 2141 01:46:34.090 --> 01:46:36.270 of course, I didn't even get to ask if he 2142 01:46:36.329 --> 01:46:38.369 ran over the dog's log or if it was a 2143 01:46:38.409 --> 01:46:40.930 wooden log, but he said it was a real log, 2144 01:46:40.970 --> 01:46:44.829 so I guess wood. But either way, he lost his 2145 01:46:44.869 --> 01:46:50.260 hubcaps in the process and had to go find them. 2146 01:46:51.079 --> 01:46:52.039 Yeah, oh, yeah. 2147 01:46:52.260 --> 01:46:54.100 I went right back and got those things. 2148 01:46:54.199 --> 01:46:57.039 I paid 80 bucks for those things. He said, I'm just. 2149 01:46:56.920 --> 01:46:58.000 Going to leave them in the woods. 2150 01:46:58.079 --> 01:46:58.560 Yeah. 2151 01:46:59.479 --> 01:47:00.399 So that's why I'm late. 2152 01:47:00.819 --> 01:47:02.539 Nah, because who the hell wants to go to Detroit? 2153 01:47:02.579 --> 01:47:05.579 You should have spent $ 100 and they'd stay on your wheel. 2154 01:47:06.890 --> 01:47:08.710 Who the hell wants to go to Detroit and find 2155 01:47:08.729 --> 01:47:09.789 the guy selling them again? 2156 01:47:12.829 --> 01:47:17.609 You know, that's the worst part, Chuck, is when one disappears. 2157 01:47:18.409 --> 01:47:21.859 And you're like, oh, come on. Yeah, because now you've 2158 01:47:21.880 --> 01:47:24.880 got to find one that matches the other three. Or 2159 01:47:24.899 --> 01:47:27.439 just get all four new ones if it's gone-gone, right? 2160 01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:30.930 I can see Jimmy walking through a parking lot with 2161 01:47:30.970 --> 01:47:33.529 his poodle taking a poop with a screwdriver in his 2162 01:47:33.569 --> 01:47:36.310 hand to find the one hubcap that matches his other three. 2163 01:47:39.270 --> 01:47:40.109 Yeah. 2164 01:47:40.149 --> 01:47:40.890 Sniff it out, boy. 2165 01:47:41.590 --> 01:47:42.510 Find me that hubcap. 2166 01:47:42.590 --> 01:47:43.130 Come on, now. 2167 01:47:43.189 --> 01:47:43.649 Sniff it out. 2168 01:47:44.449 --> 01:47:48.020 Oh, my God. You guys are making me choke. 2169 01:47:49.520 --> 01:47:52.220 Well, poodle poop will do that. 2170 01:47:52.420 --> 01:47:53.100 It might, yes. 2171 01:47:57.270 --> 01:48:00.800 No poodles. I don't know where these poodles are coming from. 2172 01:48:01.300 --> 01:48:03.979 I don't know either. Me, Pete, is just going on 2173 01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:07.159 with it, and it's killing me. I think it's because 2174 01:48:07.180 --> 01:48:10.100 you're catering to the dog, so he's assuming it must 2175 01:48:10.159 --> 01:48:10.760 be a poodle. 2176 01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:13.239 Well, when you've got to take it down the road 2177 01:48:13.270 --> 01:48:14.949 to take a dump, I mean, my God. 2178 01:48:16.470 --> 01:48:18.369 You know, Danny knows a lot of. 2179 01:48:18.409 --> 01:48:19.329 I can't just let him. 2180 01:48:19.350 --> 01:48:19.949 Uh-huh. 2181 01:48:21.859 --> 01:48:24.119 Danny knows a lot about dogs. I want to let 2182 01:48:24.159 --> 01:48:26.020 him in on this conversation, so I'm going to turn 2183 01:48:26.060 --> 01:48:27.819 Danny loose for the last little bit here. 2184 01:48:27.880 --> 01:48:29.380 Danny doesn't have to take him down the street to 2185 01:48:29.420 --> 01:48:31.460 find a place that's compatible with his bottom. 2186 01:48:31.739 --> 01:48:32.039 I don't know. 2187 01:48:32.100 --> 01:48:34.390 I think Danny would take his dog to the next 2188 01:48:34.439 --> 01:48:37.210 town to poop if he thought it would help

the dog, 2189 01:48:37.289 --> 01:48:39.909 but but I'm not going to speak for him. Danny, 2190 01:48:40.409 --> 01:48:42.489 go ahead. If you want to add into this conversation, 2191 01:48:42.550 --> 01:48:43.689 I'm just going to sit back. 2192 01:48:43.710 --> 01:48:47.149 A standard poodle, standard poodles are probably some of the 2193 01:48:47.270 --> 01:48:51.619 smartest dogs in the world. Now, those little toy poodles, 2194 01:48:51.960 --> 01:48:53.779 they're psychotic. 2195 01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:57.100 No, because a poodle is one of those few breeds 2196 01:48:57.140 --> 01:49:00.039 that you can't train. You can't train a poodle to 2197 01:49:00.060 --> 01:49:02.369 be a C & I dog. No, you can't. 2198 01:49:03.770 --> 01:49:06.289 Well, but you're smart to do that. I mean, that 2199 01:49:06.529 --> 01:49:10.770 takes a lab. Labs are compliant. Poodles are smarter than 2200 01:49:10.810 --> 01:49:11.529 most of our owners. 2201 01:49:11.689 --> 01:49:13.609 Now, I happen to know that you can't train a 2202 01:49:13.649 --> 01:49:16.189 poodle to be a seeing-eye dog, even the giant poodles, 2203 01:49:17.050 --> 01:49:20.520 which there are giant poodles, by the way. 2204 01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:23.020 Well, it's just a standard poodle. It's not one of these, 2205 01:49:23.060 --> 01:49:26.859 you know, bred-down, miniature, pampered dogs. 2206 01:49:27.060 --> 01:49:30.659 Yeah, okay, but your typical poodle is too small to 2207 01:49:30.699 --> 01:49:34.060 be a seeing-eye dog unless you're a freaking dwarf. So 2208 01:49:34.479 --> 01:49:37.789 it's a size issue for starters. But the giant poodles 2209 01:49:37.850 --> 01:49:42.439 are not trainable. German shepherds are. Labs are, yes. 2210 01:49:43.479 --> 01:49:46.760 That's because when you come to an obstruction, a poodle 2211 01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:49.529 will try to jump over it instead of going around it, 2212 01:49:50.010 --> 01:49:51.949 which is not good for the person on the other 2213 01:49:52.050 --> 01:49:52.729 end of the leash. 2214 01:49:52.890 --> 01:49:55.729 Well, OK, I don't know that that's the case because 2215 01:49:56.069 --> 01:49:59.210 it's just they're not trainable. There are certain breeds that 2216 01:49:59.369 --> 01:50:02.449 are kind of ticked off that you don't expect. 2217 01:50:02.069 --> 01:50:04.239 When they have to have a special place to take 2218 01:50:04.300 --> 01:50:04.659 a poop. 2219 01:50:07.220 --> 01:50:11.220 OK, we're back to that. I just happen to know 2220 01:50:11.239 --> 01:50:13.119 a little bit about seeing eye dog training. 2221 01:50:14.319 --> 01:50:16.310 I mean, Jesus, we've got to go down the road. 2222 01:50:16.329 --> 01:50:18.850 I'm sorry, this is inadequate. Oh, let's get in the car. 2223 01:50:19.289 --> 01:50:22.369 Like my size where my hand hangs down, I would 2224 01:50:22.390 --> 01:50:26.109 have ended up with a German Shepherd. At six foot. 2225 01:50:27.109 --> 01:50:30.069 I would have thought that if

you could drive down 2226 01:50:30.130 --> 01:50:34.550 the path or trail and hit a log hard enough 2227 01:50:34.949 --> 01:50:38.609 to knock two of your hubcaps off, your dog. 2228 01:50:38.270 --> 01:50:41.189 Would be happy to take a dump anywhere out there. 2229 01:50:42.229 --> 01:50:44.590 And we still haven't actually clarified. I mean, I talked 2230 01:50:44.630 --> 01:50:46.670 about the coloring on the coat of the dog. But 2231 01:50:46.689 --> 01:50:48.810 what type of dog is this, Jimmy? Just give us 2232 01:50:48.880 --> 01:50:50.979 the breed, if you don't mind. Because I forget. 2233 01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:51.680 I know he's big. 2234 01:50:53.550 --> 01:50:55.789 Yeah, he's a big Brindle pit bull. 2235 01:50:56.529 --> 01:50:57.979 Okay, Brindle pit bull. He is. 2236 01:50:58.109 --> 01:50:59.850 Okay. 2237 01:51:01.029 --> 01:51:05.470 Your pit bull is such a pussy that it has 2238 01:51:05.510 --> 01:51:07.970 to have a special place to take a dump? 2239 01:51:10.149 --> 01:51:12.470 No, that's just where I take them. 2240 01:51:12.590 --> 01:51:14.029 Jesus Christ. 2241 01:51:14.210 --> 01:51:15.409 I got broke. 2242 01:51:15.449 --> 01:51:16.350 That's bad. 2243 01:51:16.449 --> 01:51:17.979 I wouldn't even admit that. 2244 01:51:18.189 --> 01:51:19.760 I know. 2245 01:51:20.340 --> 01:51:22.060 I just can't believe you would admit that. 2246 01:51:23.140 --> 01:51:24.420 Danny, Danny. 2247 01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:25.260 Yes, sir. 2248 01:51:25.699 --> 01:51:29.090 Did I just hear BP say your pit bull is 2249 01:51:29.149 --> 01:51:31.600 a pussy? Did I just hear him say that? 2250 01:51:32.529 --> 01:51:33.920 Yeah. 2251 01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:37.340 Okay, I'm just trying to make sure. I'm not imagining things. 2252 01:51:37.359 --> 01:51:40.319 I've been around some pit bulls that are pretty sweet, you. 2253 01:51:40.260 --> 01:51:44.859 Know, so. I've seen sweet pit bulls, yes. I've never 2254 01:51:44.899 --> 01:51:47.220 seen a pit bull that's a pussy, though, because that 2255 01:51:47.279 --> 01:51:49.300 just defies logic. 2256 01:51:49.340 --> 01:51:51.800 If you've got to take your pit bull to a 2257 01:51:51.819 --> 01:51:54.560 special place to accommodate his bottom. 2258 01:51:54.239 --> 01:51:57.420 So he can take a dump. You got a pussy for. 2259 01:51:57.260 --> 01:51:57.779 A pit bull. 2260 01:51:57.819 --> 01:51:58.680 Jimmy's doing that. 2261 01:51:58.699 --> 01:52:00.670 Take the shit on the hood of your car and 2262 01:52:00.750 --> 01:52:02.210 dared you to say something. 2263 01:52:11.819 --> 01:52:12.529 That's bad. 2264 01:52:13.130 --> 01:52:15.590 I am trying so hard not to laugh, but I 2265 01:52:15.630 --> 01:52:16.310 can't stop. 2266 01:52:18.850 --> 01:52:21.489 I can see Jimmy out there with a plastic bag 2267 01:52:21.529 --> 01:52:24.199 in his hand, ready to pick up the steaming pile 2268 01:52:24.619 --> 01:52:27.979 and accidentally come across Bigfoot's pile. 2269 01:52:28.399 --> 01:52:29.399 And which one is which? 2270 01:52:30.380 --> 01:52:32.220 That was the other thing. I could hit Bigfoot and 2271 01:52:32.239 --> 01:52:35.539 not know it. I mean, you know, only on the 2272 01:52:35.619 --> 01:52:37.310 Ocelli effect. Go ahead, yeah. 2273 01:52:37.359 --> 01:52:39.770 I get what Jimmy's talking about going in the woods. 2274 01:52:40.710 --> 01:52:43.250 I grew up in the rural country. I get how 2275 01:52:43.329 --> 01:52:45.510 dark those woods are. 2276 01:52:45.649 --> 01:52:46.329 Yeah, I get it. 2277 01:52:46.829 --> 01:52:47.569 Oh, my God. 2278 01:52:48.130 --> 01:52:54.760 You could take up a collection and send Jimmy a flashlight. 2279 01:52:54.850 --> 01:52:57.300 Or some glow-in-the-dark stickers for his upcaps. 2280 01:52:58.039 --> 01:52:58.880 Oh, my God. 2281 01:53:01.079 --> 01:53:01.920 All right. 2282 01:53:02.779 --> 01:53:06.199 I want to give everybody the opportunity to say, you know, 2283 01:53:06.979 --> 01:53:10.489 and give us a final word for the week because 2284 01:53:10.510 --> 01:53:12.310 we're going to go a little bit over here, but 2285 01:53:12.390 --> 01:53:12.890 not much. 2286 01:53:13.470 --> 01:53:17.010 I'm exhausted. I've had a rough day. I'm very, very pleased. 2287 01:53:17.029 --> 01:53:19.329 I got to just crack up toward the end. No, Jimmy, 2288 01:53:19.789 --> 01:53:25.340 I thank you so much for that. But I'll give 2289 01:53:25.380 --> 01:53:27.119 Danny the opportunity first. 2290 01:53:27.810 --> 01:53:29.720 And then we'll hear from Jimmy, and then we'll hear 2291 01:53:29.800 --> 01:53:33.500 from BP at the end. But I appreciate all you guys. 2292 01:53:33.619 --> 01:53:36.720 Even the guy who called in, who asked me the 2293 01:53:36.760 --> 01:53:39.810 strangest question I think ever asked me on the live show. 2294 01:53:39.829 --> 01:53:43.569 I appreciate you. And also Chris from Florida. 2295 01:53:44.329 --> 01:53:46.460 So... Wow. 2296 01:53:46.920 --> 01:53:51.439 Anyways, Danny, do you have a summation, if you will? 2297 01:53:52.039 --> 01:53:53.680 I mean, I don't know where you go from here, 2298 01:53:53.739 --> 01:53:54.399 but go ahead. 2299 01:53:54.800 --> 01:54:00.770 Giant pumpkins, giant pumpkins, pooping dogs, hubcaps, and, you know, 2300 01:54:00.970 --> 01:54:02.250 and the death penalty. 2301 01:54:03.369 --> 01:54:09.289 Plus, can you perform fellatio on thyself? I don't know 2302 01:54:09.310 --> 01:54:11.869 where else you get this combination, folks, but you got 2303 01:54:11.890 --> 01:54:12.510 it here tonight. 2304 01:54:13.029 --> 01:54:13.689 So, Danny, go ahead. 2305 01:54:15.270 --> 01:54:22.029 Yeah, all I'm going to say is to make, you know, 2306 01:54:22.310 --> 01:54:27.380 from South Park, Randy Marsh proud, established in 1844, Pabst 2307 01:54:27.439 --> 01:54:28.420 Blue Ribbon Beer. 2308 01:54:28.720 --> 01:54:30.260 It was nice talking to everybody. 2309 01:54:31.260 --> 01:54:36.300 I'm glad that you love dogs and

still can kind of, 2310 01:54:36.579 --> 01:54:40.779 you know, reminisce about trick-or-treating and in all the fun 2311 01:54:40.819 --> 01:54:43.159 of the holidays and have a good laugh thank. 2312 01:54:42.979 --> 01:54:46.199 You listen i i had fun and i'm gonna put 2313 01:54:46.220 --> 01:54:49.579 you on hold but since you're drinking uh paps blue 2314 01:54:49.640 --> 01:54:51.800 ribbon you gotta you gotta at least say it once 2315 01:54:52.420 --> 01:54:56.279 i'm white trash and i'm in trouble which is a 2316 01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:02.890 reference to a south park thing anyways yikes jimmy james 2317 01:55:03.390 --> 01:55:06.130 um I just had to do that. 2318 01:55:06.229 --> 01:55:06.649 I don't know. 2319 01:55:06.689 --> 01:55:09.850 You guys got me silly now. A final word for 2320 01:55:09.869 --> 01:55:10.609 the week, brother. 2321 01:55:10.750 --> 01:55:11.189 All yours. 2322 01:55:15.609 --> 01:55:17.489 Well, everyone have a good week. 2323 01:55:18.430 --> 01:55:26.100 I don't really start my campaign to... We need to 2324 01:55:26.149 --> 01:55:28.020 start clothing these animals. 2325 01:55:30.659 --> 01:55:33.539 A nude horse is a rude horse. 2326 01:55:40.500 --> 01:55:42.619 I'm going to put Jimmy on hold with that because 2327 01:55:42.920 --> 01:55:45.789 you can't top a nude horse is a rude horse. 2328 01:55:46.609 --> 01:55:51.390 Of course, of course. How do you top that? 2329 01:55:52.409 --> 01:55:52.829 I don't know. 2330 01:55:52.930 --> 01:55:55.340 BP, it's to you, brother. 2331 01:55:55.350 --> 01:55:59.380 Well, I appreciate everybody calling in. I'm glad we could 2332 01:55:59.420 --> 01:56:02.079 do it for another week and looking forward to doing 2333 01:56:02.119 --> 01:56:06.170 it again next week. And just remember to Pamper your 2334 01:56:06.369 --> 01:56:10.630 poodle slash pit bull because you never know when he 2335 01:56:10.670 --> 01:56:13.649 might be having a hard time and you just sit 2336 01:56:13.689 --> 01:56:15.909 down and converse with him and take him to a 2337 01:56:17.010 --> 01:56:25.119 private place. A place where he can, let's say, evacuate 2338 01:56:25.140 --> 01:56:25.659 in style. 2339 01:56:29.359 --> 01:56:32.729 All righty then. Evacuate in style. 2340 01:56:34.390 --> 01:56:36.949 Well, you know, you got to look out. You got 2341 01:56:36.970 --> 01:56:37.989 to pamper your poodles. 2342 01:56:39.470 --> 01:56:43.159 No objection from me, sir. I just did not expect 2343 01:56:43.199 --> 01:56:44.899 this show to go in the direction it did today, 2344 01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:45.439 for sure. 2345 01:56:46.380 --> 01:56:47.420 Well, I'm blaming it on Jimmy. 2346 01:56:47.659 --> 01:56:50.960 But the rest, listen, no, because things went a little 2347 01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:54.630 sideways before Jimmy showed up, but Jimmy added the funniest 2348 01:56:54.670 --> 01:56:57.649 part of the show to me. Although the other guy 2349 01:56:57.770 --> 01:57:00.189 is challenging him with his questions. 2350 01:57:01.060 --> 01:57:01.869 Should we take up. 2351 01:57:01.800 --> 01:57:03.899 A collection and send Jimmy some duct tape so he 2352 01:57:03.920 --> 01:57:05.859 can keep his hubcaps on? 2353 01:57:05.880 --> 01:57:09.399 But listen, I am not even aware of how you 2354 01:57:09.420 --> 01:57:10.380 keep hubcaps on. 2355 01:57:10.699 --> 01:57:11.180 You know that? 2356 01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:14.079 Because I've been able to pop them on, and I've 2357 01:57:14.100 --> 01:57:16.199 been able to pop them off. But to tell you 2358 01:57:16.220 --> 01:57:17.699 the truth, they either click or they don't. 2359 01:57:17.819 --> 01:57:20.500 And once they're bent, they're usually screwed, the way I 2360 01:57:20.539 --> 01:57:20.939 see it. 2361 01:57:21.020 --> 01:57:22.100 And that's what I'm thinking. 2362 01:57:22.279 --> 01:57:24.869 Jimmy's got a problem here with two, not just one, 2363 01:57:25.090 --> 01:57:26.630 but two popping off. 2364 01:57:26.750 --> 01:57:26.989 Right. 2365 01:57:27.979 --> 01:57:29.909 Maybe we need to take up a collection and get 2366 01:57:29.949 --> 01:57:30.970 him some real hubcaps. 2367 01:57:31.149 --> 01:57:33.310 Well, he might have a bigger problem if his tires 2368 01:57:33.350 --> 01:57:36.649 are flat tomorrow, because like he said, and that might be, 2369 01:57:36.670 --> 01:57:39.390 because hubcaps do pop off when your tires go bad. 2370 01:57:41.029 --> 01:57:42.850 I mean, that's usually the first thing that goes rolling 2371 01:57:42.890 --> 01:57:43.310 down the street. 2372 01:57:43.329 --> 01:57:45.130 Well, not only that, but when you run over Bigfoot, 2373 01:57:45.390 --> 01:57:48.489 you know, and lose two hubcaps, that tells you how 2374 01:57:48.529 --> 01:57:49.109 hard you hit. 2375 01:57:49.449 --> 01:57:51.880 Well, you know, and he's running over a log or 2376 01:57:51.920 --> 01:57:54.159 maybe multiple logs, and some of them are soft and 2377 01:57:54.199 --> 01:57:54.840 some of them are not. 2378 01:57:55.869 --> 01:57:57.850 So, look, it's a report. 2379 01:57:58.029 --> 01:58:00.729 What can I say? Nobody else can challenge it. He 2380 01:58:00.770 --> 01:58:05.020 has no other witness to it. And the dog got 2381 01:58:05.060 --> 01:58:08.149 to poop in its own spot. Not in his yard, though. 2382 01:58:10.199 --> 01:58:12.539 i i love it i could have hit bigfoot and 2383 01:58:12.579 --> 01:58:17.060 nobody would know it okay anyways to conclude everything i'll 2384 01:58:17.090 --> 01:58:19.250 put it out to you this way uh i am 2385 01:58:19.310 --> 01:58:22.369 listener supported and not very well at this point so 2386 01:58:23.409 --> 01:58:25.890 if you are inclined to do so and capable of 2387 01:58:25.930 --> 01:58:29.130 doing so and can afford it You know what? It 2388 01:58:29.170 --> 01:58:33.390 would be most appreciated, especially at this time, due to 2389 01:58:33.630 --> 01:58:35.350 the various bills that have been paid. 2390

01:58:35.529 --> 01:58:36.470 And now I'm broke. 2391 01:58:36.529 --> 01:58:39.539 So, you know, you could contribute to my well-being for 2392 01:58:39.560 --> 01:58:42.079 the rest of the month and maybe even help pay 2393 01:58:42.100 --> 01:58:46.760 another bill that is upcoming. If you kick in at Ocelli.com, 2394 01:58:46.800 --> 01:58:51.010 there's a donate link. I have Cash App available and Mrs. 2395 01:58:51.130 --> 01:58:54.609 O's PayPal is still functional despite mine being gone. Or 2396 01:58:54.649 --> 01:58:57.689 you could join the Supporters Club at Spreaker. Any of 2397 01:58:57.729 --> 01:59:01.970 these things are acceptable, but any contribution at this time 2398 01:59:02.189 --> 01:59:06.949 would be most appreciated because I do this with listener 2399 01:59:06.989 --> 01:59:10.430 support and that's it. We don't have corporate sponsorship here. 2400 01:59:10.609 --> 01:59:12.890 I don't have any deals. I am trying for that 2401 01:59:12.989 --> 01:59:17.649 top host thing, which I've survived the first cut. Cause 2402 01:59:17.689 --> 01:59:20.729 I'm in the top 20, but, uh, I don't take 2403 01:59:20.770 --> 01:59:24.670 that seriously. So I'm not banking on that 25 G's, uh, 2404 01:59:24.829 --> 01:59:27.310 which would be life-changing money for me. Cause I don't 2405 01:59:27.350 --> 01:59:29.909 make much, but if you guys kick in, I can 2406 01:59:29.960 --> 01:59:32.539 live a little better, at least for a day. So 2407 01:59:32.760 --> 01:59:35.460 that's what I'll tell you on my way out the door, 2408 01:59:35.539 --> 01:59:37.159 because I am Ocelli. 2409 01:59:37.260 --> 01:59:40.020 You are the effect. Thank you, BP. Thank you, Chris 2410 01:59:40.039 --> 01:59:43.989 from Florida. Thank you, Danny from California. Thank you, Jimmy James, 2411 01:59:44.250 --> 01:59:48.899 as always. And, uh, Thank you for listening. I appreciate you. 2412 01:59:49.000 --> 01:59:58.630 Thank you. 2413 02:00:17.430 --> 02:00:20.609 The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great national 2414 02:00:20.670 --> 02:00:23.670 transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency in 2415 02:00:23.710 --> 02:00:27.090 the context of the times and reveals never before published 2416 02:00:27.130 --> 02:00:30.869 information about the Cuban Missile Crisis. President Kennedy would not 2417 02:00:30.909 --> 02:00:33.270 have been assassinated if he had been president 200 years ago. 2418 02:00:34.510 --> 02:00:37.350 His assassination took place in the context of the Cold 2419 02:00:37.409 --> 02:00:40.399 War and the rise of the national security state. Before 2420 02:00:40.479 --> 02:00:43.539 World War II, the United States was a continental republic. 2421 02:00:43.960 --> 02:00:46.939 In the decade that followed, it became an imperial superpower. 2422 02:00:47.239 --> 02:00:50.750 Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade Cuba, 2423 02:00:50.930 --> 02:00:53.510 but knew that there were short-range missiles

on the island 2424 02:00:53.630 --> 02:00:56.689 armed with nuclear warheads that they could not destroy because 2425 02:00:56.720 --> 02:00:59.479 they were on mobile launchers. Their invasion could have led 2426 02:00:59.539 --> 02:01:02.460 to a third world war, and they wanted to go 2427 02:01:02.500 --> 02:01:06.359 to war anyway. The War State by Michael Swanson reveals 2428 02:01:06.460 --> 02:01:09.250 why and will show you what President Kennedy was up against. 2429 02:01:09.529 --> 02:01:11.569 For more information, thewarstate.com. 2430 02:01:33.409 --> 02:03:06.340 So so Thank you. 2431 02:03:24.520 --> 02:03:28.310 Radio network what are the dynamics of a crowd how 2432 02:03:28.329 --> 02:03:30.390 do you move a mob how do you excite how 2433 02:03:30.409 --> 02:03:32.310 do you make them feel as one with you i 2434 02:03:32.630 --> 02:03:37.090 don't know how join them first join them yes when 2435 02:03:37.130 --> 02:03:39.130 you speak to them speak to them as if you 2436 02:03:39.149 --> 02:03:41.430 were a member of the mob speak to them. 2437 02:03:41.750 --> 02:03:44.989 In their language on their level make their. 2438 02:03:44.800 --> 02:03:48.260 Hate your hate if they are poor talk to them 2439 02:03:48.319 --> 02:03:51.109 of poverty If they are afraid, talk to them of 2440 02:03:51.130 --> 02:03:51.939 their fears. 2441 02:03:52.140 --> 02:03:55.199 If they are angry, give them objects for their anger. 2442 02:03:55.439 --> 02:03:58.460 But most of all, the thing that is most of the. 2443 02:03:58.460 --> 02:04:02.479 Essence is that you make this mob an extension of yourself. 2444 02:04:02.859 --> 02:04:05.020 What are the dynamics of a crowd? 2445 02:04:05.189 --> 02:04:07.189 How do you move a mob? How do you excite them? 2446 02:04:07.289 --> 02:04:09.210 How do you make them feel as one with you? 2447 02:04:09.229 --> 02:04:11.250 Join their first turn. 2448 02:04:11.270 --> 02:04:11.369 Yes. 2449 02:04:13.920 --> 02:04:15.979 When you speak to them, speak to them as if 2450 02:04:16.020 --> 02:04:17.560 you were a member of the mob. 2451 02:04:17.619 --> 02:04:20.779 Speak to them in their language, on their level. 2452 02:04:20.979 --> 02:04:24.930 Make their hate your hate. If they are poor, talk 2453 02:04:24.970 --> 02:04:27.710 to them of poverty. If they are afraid, talk to 2454 02:04:27.789 --> 02:04:28.569 them of their fears. 2455 02:04:28.590 --> 02:04:30.569 If they are angry, give. 2456 02:04:30.430 --> 02:04:33.829 Them objects for their anger. But most of all, the 2457 02:04:33.869 --> 02:04:36.630 thing that is most of all, is that you make 2458 02:04:36.649 --> 02:04:45.279 this mob an extension of your mob. What are the 2459 02:04:45.319 --> 02:04:48.020 dynamics of a crowd? How do you move a mob? 2460 02:04:48.119 --> 02:04:48.619 Are you excited? 2461 02:04:48.840 --> 02:04:50.819 How do you make them feel as one with you? 2462 02:04:52.119 --> 02:04:54.319 Join them. 2463 02:04:54.619 --> 02:04:57.539 When you speak to them, speak to them as if 2464 02:04:57.579 --> 02:04:59.840 you were a member of the mob. Speak to them 2465 02:05:00.279 --> 02:05:04.640 in their language, on their level. Make their hate your hate. 2466 02:05:04.859 --> 02:05:07.680 Talk to them of poverty. Talk to them of their fears. 2467 02:05:08.039 --> 02:05:11.159 Give them objects for their anger. Make this mob an 2468 02:05:11.229 --> 02:05:12.470 extension of yourself. 2469 02:05:24.939 --> 02:05:31.850 The uncertain and dying, the. 2470 02:05:31.710 --> 02:05:41.420 Ingestion and the poison, reality important without reason. 2471 02:05:41.520 --> 02:05:47.520 Nothing less worth it. One shot, one. 2472 02:05:47.119 --> 02:05:51.399 Choice, question, then come down like solution, beat by destroying 2473 02:05:51.420 --> 02:05:51.699 the enemy. 2474 02:06:02.270 --> 02:06:02.750 So what? 2475 02:06:03.250 --> 02:06:03.649 No one. 2476 02:06:04.369 --> 02:06:08.850 That is my own freedom. 2477 02:06:08.949 --> 02:06:10.250 I am wrong. 2478 02:06:10.270 --> 02:06:13.800 I am right. 2479 02:06:13.850 --> 02:06:15.020 It's all wrong. 2480 02:06:15.979 --> 02:06:18.020 God made me. 2481 02:06:18.680 --> 02:06:21.520 Just regret. 2482 02:06:22.020 --> 02:06:22.300 Just love. 2483 02:06:39.529 --> 02:06:42.640 Sound like someone I'm destroying. 2484 02:06:42.720 --> 02:06:43.699 I'm trying to. 2485 02:06:46.270 --> 02:06:53.609 Be a dreamer. 2486 02:06:53.649 --> 02:06:54.239 Good night.