התמלול המלא של 12: Relationship Over Religion: Inviting in the Gentle Surgeon with Lorie Ladd

but they didn't reflect love, empathy, and forgiveness. 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:54.960 They may have projected um judgment or used his name to maintain control or fear. 00:02:55.599 --> 00:03:04.080 And so this conversation isn't about a relationship with religion, um, it's about a relationship with him. 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:09.439 And yeah, I just wanted to kind of put that out there. 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:12.159 I love that. 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:13.840 It's very important. 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:15.439 Yeah. 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:19.599 Well, thank you for that. 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:41.120 I mean, I think too, as we're talking, just to remember Kylie and I started this podcast not to sway any people's beliefs, not to really force people into any certain belief system or mentality about uh Jesus or God. 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:52.080 It's truly a space for us to share what an impact having a close relationship with the divine has made on our lives. 00:03:52.560 --> 00:04:01.919 So I think I'm so that's why I'm so excited to have you here today, Lori, because you are really uh such a great symbol of that. 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:34.079 Because, and I know you're gonna get into how you know you created your own relationship with Jesus, but like Kylie said, I hope that what we share today just encourages everybody to think about uh their own personal relationship with Jesus outside of any preconceived notions, um, any other thought systems you might have been holding on to regarding the name Jesus and really open up your hearts. 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:40.959 And I think that's just it's and in your bio too, Lori, you're talking about this shift in consciousness, right? 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:43.360 Like this spiritual battle that's currently happening. 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:47.519 And I know you've talked a lot about it on your social media platforms as well. 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:56.800 And so I'm just so excited for you to share with our listeners what the possibilities are when you open up your heart, you know. 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:05.439 Yeah, I mean, I think that's the gift that Jesus reminds us of or gifts us with, or combination of both. 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:11.680 You know, he's sort of at least, I mean, everything that I'll be sharing today is just my own experience. 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:27.439 And um, and I think that's one of the most important pieces to think about when you start thinking about Jesus, is he's a relationship, right? 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:31.680 So, yeah, we learn about him, we know about him. 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:37.519 I mean, our entire calendar is based on him, our the biggest holiday in the world is based on him. 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:41.040 There's there's so much deep programming around him. 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:49.600 So it's impossible for us to not have really deep, steeped, programmed beliefs about him. 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:56.879 And so to start thinking about him as a person and that you're curious about a relationship with him. 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:12.000 And it's almost like the the analogy I like to use is like imagine you just met a stranger on the street, you don't know much about him, even if you've had experiences in the past, right? 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:17.680 Imagine he's he's new, he came out of some, you know, he's just uh he's a new person. 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:28.000 Um and you're curious about who he is, and you want to get to know him as opposed to what everybody's told you about him. 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:29.680 That's what he wants. 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:38.240 Truly, that's what he wants because he'll tell people who he is, he'll show people what they he needs, he wants them to see, right? 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:41.279 Like if he wants you to read the Bible, he's gonna say, Go read the Bible. 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:44.399 If he wants you to go to church, he's gonna tell you get your butt to church. 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:51.279 Like, I don't need to be the person that tells people how to be with Jesus. 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:55.199 You know, I don't think that's my role. 00:06:55.519 --> 00:07:05.120 My role is to get people to see him outside of the deep program because their whole lives will change. 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:06.800 I have no doubt in my mind. 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:13.040 Um is there is there anyone who can tell you how to have a relationship with Jesus? 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:17.519 I mean, in our physical world, other I don't know. 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:22.160 I mean, I think a lot of people have been told, yeah, like their whole lives. 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:22.959 Right, yeah. 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:34.000 So then they have this idea of who he is, and it doesn't resonate with them, and so they run the other way, and then they just shut the door on Jesus. 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:36.639 Huge percentage of people. 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:46.240 Um, and that's the dis that's kind of a lot of what really what he placed in my heart back in August last year before we started to write the book. 00:07:46.319 --> 00:08:04.079 He he um he honestly to me, what he shared with me was that it doesn't matter who comes to him, how they come to him, what they believe, what they don't believe, just come to me because he can he can he can impact everybody. 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:10.240 Um and the impact is the awareness of what we're in. 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:15.279 The impact is recognizing none of what you're experiencing as you. 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:22.319 The impact is learning how to rid yourself of those thoughts that have been tormenting you your whole life. 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:26.639 The impact is softening your heart, opening your heart, getting rid of addictions. 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:30.160 The impact is forgiving people you've never been able to forgive. 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:34.799 The impact is knowing that you're safe in this world, even if you don't have a job. 00:08:34.960 -->

00:08:39.519 The impact is trusting in the fact that you're safe no matter what. 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:42.960 I mean, there's just the impact is just overwhelming, you know. 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:45.440 It's just it doesn't stop. 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.679 Um, and all he needs is for you to say, I'm curious. 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:52.080 Like I'm I'm curious. 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:57.519 Let me, and then you go through your own battle of walking with him. 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:01.279 Wow, you know, yeah, that's so beautiful. 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:06.879 Um I am curious, how did you get to this point? 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:16.080 Like, tell us about your past and what led you to being curious about having a relationship with him. 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:30.639 Yeah, I mean, I grew up really, really um spiritual, like new age spiritual, just like aliens, galore, galactics, um, all of that from a very young age. 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:36.480 I was going to these weekend retreats with my mom, and guys were channeling aliens. 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:45.440 And so I was really seeped into the um the more um esoteric sort of way of seeing the the world. 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:51.600 And um my best friend was going through breast cancer in 2022, 2023. 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:57.759 She started finding Jesus, and Jesus came into her life, and Jesus started creating all these miracles. 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:00.720 And I was like, wait a second, what is this? 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.440 What you're gonna be kidding me, huh? 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:09.039 And I then I started getting really curious about what like is he like what he really does miracles? 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:16.960 Like, and again, I I was, you know, I was one of those people that um didn't believe any of really kind of what religion says about him. 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:18.720 I didn't believe he was the son of God. 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:25.360 I didn't believe that he was the way, like there's just all these things I just didn't believe, and uh, I didn't believe the Bible. 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:30.720 And so I was very against this was three years ago, two years ago. 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:40.159 Um and um, but I watched my girlfriend just receive these miracles after miracle after miracle, and I was like, okay, stop it. 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:41.919 Something, there's something about this man. 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:43.919 This is let me get curious. 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:49.120 And so in 2023 of July, I it was just randomly decided one day. 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:53.200 I was like, okay, Jesus, I want to learn about you. 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:56.960 Um I I don't, I really want to learn about you. 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:03.679 And I and then I was like, you know, you're probably the one person that I that could that is the person to learn from, right? 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.480 Like if there's anyone to learn from, it's gonna be you. 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:12.559 Um, and

so he I entered, I invited him into my life, and for about a year it was just kind of off and on. 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:18.879 I would say hi to him, bring him into my car, have him sit in the passenger seat, just super chill. 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:24.720 Um, and then in 2024, I decided to get serious and I was like, okay, I'm gonna commit. 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:25.919 I don't even know what happened. 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:28.000 It's almost like it was inside of me. 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:33.200 But in the end of 2024, I was like, I'm gonna commit my whole life to God. 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:40.000 It's like kind of random, but also something where I was like, I just know this is what I'm supposed to do. 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:45.840 So I committed my whole life one night to God, and I committed my whole life over to Jesus. 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.639 And I said, you can have everything, you can have my whole life. 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.240 And I didn't know what I was doing, I didn't understand what was gonna happen. 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:55.200 I was like, I had no idea. 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:59.120 And um, and that was the night where really everything started. 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:00.799 That was the very end of 2024. 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:05.440 I got super attacked demonically that night, and I had to go to the ER. 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:10.559 And that's when I realized demons are real, which I didn't believe either. 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:27.759 Um, and then from that point forward, I got real serious and he started coming into my life, he started pulling things out of my life, he started doing miracles in my life, he started um, he just started showing up in my life in a very real, real way. 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:32.320 I started to feel a sense of peace that I'd never in my life felt. 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:36.159 I didn't even peace where I would drop to my knees and just start crying. 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:38.879 And I'm would call my friend and I'm like, Brandy, what is this? 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:40.720 And she's like, Oh, that's Jesus. 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:43.120 And I was like, No, I'm bawling, like I can't stop crying. 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:44.879 She goes, Oh, that he's the Prince of Peace. 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.279 And I was like, Prince of Peace, like what? 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:50.399 So I just started unraveling all of who he was. 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:55.679 And then it was, and I kept inviting him in, and I and it was very difficult. 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:04.080 It was not easy because I was really seeped in the esoteric new age, sort of everybody knew me from that. 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:20.639 Everybody knew that I channeled, everybody knew that I was all about galactics, everybody knew that, and so for whatever reason on this planet, those two have a hard time coming together and being in one room, Jesus and and all this other stuff, galactics and stuff like that. 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:25.519 And so starting to talk about him was really, really difficult. 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:28.639 Um, but I knew I had to. 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:32.399 And Jesus, as you many of you know, he's this gentle surgeon. 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:39.919 I like to call him a gentle surgeon, because you don't realize what's happening, but he slowly is changing you. 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:46.639 But he does it in such a way that, yeah, you resist a little bit, but you don't really know what he's doing. 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:50.799 You're just following along and kind of going with the with the movement. 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:54.000 And um, and he just slowly changed me. 00:13:54.159 --> 00:14:02.080 And in August of 2025, late at night one night, I sat up and I just started hearing him talk to me as if he was right there. 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:11.360 It was one of the one time, it's one of the one of the small, the few hate times where I heard him so clearly. 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:14.559 I swear he was sitting, he was standing in my room. 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:17.840 Um, and he said, We're gonna write a book together. 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:21.279 And you're, you know, your whole life's gonna change. 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:25.200 You're giving everything to me, like you're gonna lose friends, you're gonna lose this. 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:33.360 I'm the only person you go to, like just everything started to change in a really um dramatic way for me, in a good way. 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:38.080 And that's when I started to understand even really who he was. 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:43.120 Um, and so over the past year I've been on this real deep journey with him. 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:53.679 Um and I've gone to church probably 20, 30 times, but it's been more, and I read the Bible, I read the gospels all the time. 00:14:54.000 --> 00:15:14.879 Um, but my relationship with Jesus is my is it how I know Jesus is through sitting with him and getting to know him and letting him show me who he is um and what he wants from me. 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:22.960 And who and like just yeah, I mean, it's just there's just so much, right? 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:31.120 But um I didn't go the traditional path of like, you know, going to churches and and finding a church and reading the Bible all the time. 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:32.960 Like that just wasn't my path. 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.919 Um I love the Bible. 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:39.279 I think it's in the most one of the most incredible texts written. 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:52.720 Um, I love going to church, but it's not how Jesus and I, it's not what we, it's not how we built our relationship and how we continue to build our relationship. 00:15:54.480 --> 00:16:10.320 We build our relationship on me, my commitment, my devotion, my service, my willingness to surrender, my willingness to let go, my willingness to follow. 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:15.120 And letting him tell me who he is. 00:16:16.320 -->

00:16:26.480 That's really been the hardest thing is trusting what I know to be true in my relationship with him instead of what somebody tells me. 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:31.279 You know, because everybody will jump on my Instagram and say, you don't know Jesus, that's not Jesus. 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:33.279 Where do you find that in the scriptures? 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:38.320 You know, like a lot of people will have challenged me throughout this past year. 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:51.200 And so it's that's been a real challenge to really trust my the confidence in my relationship with him. 00:16:52.159 --> 00:17:00.320 Um and that's why relationship is the most important piece, in my opinion, because nobody can take that from you. 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:06.559 Like when someone sits in front of you and you feel them, but you you you can't be convinced they weren't there. 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:10.480 You can't be convinced you didn't experience them. 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:22.240 Um and so building build sitting and building a real intimate relationship with him is the greatest gift because nobody can take that from you. 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:30.079 And you don't have to do it in any specific way, like you don't have to do it the way anybody says to do it. 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:38.400 And I don't think Jesus would require now. 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:43.039 Listen, you start walking with Jesus, and there's a lot of requirements, okay? 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:44.079 It's no joke. 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:50.240 But in terms of first sitting with him, he's not gonna say, well, first of all, you need to do this, this, this, this. 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:55.599 Like he just just sit with him and then let him tell you all the things he needs, you know? 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:56.559 Yeah. 00:17:57.200 --> 00:17:57.759 Wow. 00:17:58.000 --> 00:17:58.240 Yeah. 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:05.599 So many things just came to my head thinking about this because you mentioned how he's a gentle surgeon. 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:18.720 And that resonates so much because I like you, Lori, I was more in like the spirituality space, maybe not as in depth as that, because I that wasn't something I grew up in in a way. 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:24.079 I wasn't exposed to that, but I could have easily been, I was open to whatever. 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:35.279 When I realized, um, or when I when I knew my alcohol cravings were removed from me in an instant, that's when I was like, okay, God is real. 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:37.440 That was not me. 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.279 Something was removed from me that was not me. 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:45.279 That was when I was like, okay, open. 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:49.200 And then that's when Jesus kind of came into the chat. 00:18:49.440 --> 00:19:08.880 And I knew it was, it was an it was a personal experience inside my body that I felt that, and it wasn't like so um, I'm trying to think of the right word, but it wasn't so um like

earth-shattering in a way. 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:17.920 And I I think when you say he's a gentle surgeon, that's a good point because some people, when they're like, okay, I'm inviting in Jesus, but nothing has happened. 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:20.559 Like, I'm not feeling anything. 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:37.440 So I love that that you continued to invite him into your car, you invited him into your space and you took that step, but I don't think that like we get these like high of high of highs with him. 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:40.079 Yeah. 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:41.119 Does that make sense? 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:51.920 So, like the gentle surgeon thing, because I I think that when people um are more in the spirituality side where they've decided that Christianity isn't for them, which I I was there. 00:19:52.240 --> 00:20:00.400 Um, they they want this like this out-of-body experience because I think other things give them that, that's not Jesus. 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:02.559 Yeah, I think you're 100%. 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:04.160 I mean, that's exactly it. 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:17.279 And that is one of the most difficult parts about trying to walk people that are in that more spiritual space, walk them into the arms of Jesus because you're a hundred percent correct. 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:27.759 Now, listen, some people will have these, you know, one of the things that does happen is that people start crying, they don't really know why they're crying, they just kind of start to cry. 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:32.720 Um, so that kind of will start to happen a little bit if if we sit with Jesus. 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:41.279 But um, yeah, it's not these blissful, activating, high frequency moments. 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:43.039 It's not supposed to be. 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:52.000 That's that Jesus is very grounded, real, humble, human, basic. 00:20:52.480 --> 00:21:02.160 It's in the everyday struggles, it's when it's in the thoughts, it's in the addictions, it's in the porn, it's in the stuff that you're doing every day. 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:03.279 That's where Jesus is. 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:09.200 Jesus is not in the high vibes, he's just not, he's not in the in the higher realm. 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:13.039 I mean, he he's everywhere, but he that's not where he's gonna take you. 00:21:13.279 --> 00:21:14.640 He's just not gonna take you there. 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.720 He's gonna take you into the human, he's gonna take you into the thoughts. 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.160 You're gonna sit and go cuckoo because you're all you can do is think. 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:25.519 So you're not gonna hear him, you're not gonna feel him, right? 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:36.000 Um and uh it teaches us, it teaches us uh the temptations that pull us, right? 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:39.440 Like how easy it is for the world to take us from him. 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:51.359 Um but the the greatest gift is if you if you are offered an opportunity where something is taken immediately, then you're like, okay, this is this is real. 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:54.880 You know, like what the heck? 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:59.759 I mean, I he I can't even count the amount of things that he's taken from me instantaneously. 00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:05.920 And some things come back and then he takes it again and then it comes back and then he takes it again. 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:11.200 It's been, you know, there's certain things in my life where he's taken it probably seven times and it's come back. 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:15.119 And so really sitting with him, trying to figure out like, why is this one coming back? 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:16.400 What's the stronghold? 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:17.759 Like, what is it that I'm doing? 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:19.119 What doors am I opening? 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:20.640 Like, what's happening here? 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:23.519 Um, because it is all a spiritual battle. 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:31.200 And so really understanding the battle that we are in that he wants to show us. 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:41.839 Um and and and learning about that battle, because I think I think we're deeply, we're duped. 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:43.359 I think we're very duped. 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:45.759 Seriously, yeah, yeah. 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:48.880 Well, in that sense, too, like he's our teacher, right? 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:54.000 Like that's another way that you can view Jesus, and Jesus is talked about as our teacher. 00:22:54.160 --> 00:23:00.000 And I think what you mentioned to Lori is he is in real life. 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:04.960 I keep, I always go back to the fact that he was human. 00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:06.079 You know what I mean? 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:11.039 Like he was all divine and all human at the same time. 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:13.759 So he knows what it's like to be human. 00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:20.240 And in my mind, we can't look to Jesus and say, fix all my problems for me. 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:23.599 That's not the purpose of the relationship with Jesus. 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:38.640 What you're what I'm hearing from you, Lori, is that, you know, we're here to learn, we're here to to grow as humans in the way that Jesus, you know, worked with the disciples and and his followers when he was alive in human form. 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:45.440 And he's continuing to do that through the Holy Spirit and through creating that personal relationship. 00:23:45.599 --> 00:24:03.680 And and I love that because that lasts, you know, like when you if you feel really, you know, really great about something, whether it's you're taking an outside um substance like alcohol, and you feel so good the next morning, you feel like crap. 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:18.160 But with Jesus, it's continued and it continues to get better, which I think is such a beautiful notion because when you develop that relationship, it only gets stronger. 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:22.880 And

like, even for me, I grew up very religious. 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:25.279 Jesus, you know, was all over the house. 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:30.799 My parents have a very large picture of Jesus still in their house, which I love. 00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:33.920 But you know, I had no relationship with Jesus. 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:39.440 It wasn't until I chose to, and I'm still working on my relationship with Jesus, right? 00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:41.440 Like it's not, it's not done. 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:48.880 We're still growing together, but that's the beauty of it is that it continues to grow, it continues to last. 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:51.039 You continue to be surprised. 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:53.680 You even mentioned, right, there are requirements. 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.400 Like sometimes you got to do things that are hard. 00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:58.640 And I know it must have been hard for you, Lori. 00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:11.519 I wonder if you could speak on this because you did have a lot of social media followers when you were um in the spiritual spirituality realm, in the mystic realm, um, in that space. 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:15.519 And when you decided to bring Jesus into your space, you mentioned it a little bit. 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.400 I just, I just commend you for doing that. 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:25.599 I think that's a really difficult thing to do, especially in this modern era of social media. 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:28.960 Because ever, like you said, everybody has opinions. 00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:33.119 Everybody wants, you know, to challenge you, say they're right, you're wrong. 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:41.599 So I wonder if you could speak on that a little bit too, because I'm sure that was something Jesus said, like, hey, this is gonna be hard, but you know, I want you to do it. 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:42.079 I don't know. 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.759 I'm thinking that's what that was about, but I just want to commend you. 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:48.480 But you know, that is the confidence that Jesus gives too. 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.240 I know you shared that as well, but I'm sure that was difficult. 00:25:53.920 --> 00:26:00.000 Yeah, the it's a great what you were saying about how the relationship. 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:08.400 First of all, I just find it so insanely like WTF that I'll never get over this for the rest of my life. 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:11.839 That there is a man that's not actually, I mean, he's alive. 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:16.799 Okay, yes, he's alive, but he's not actually physically living, okay. 00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:26.000 Right, right, that legit is uh healing people's lives every day. 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:48.880 Like, I don't think people be unfortunately, because of the programming of Jesus, people can't really, if you don't um if you if you have a a a dis dis uh you know, you're kind of like you're not really a big fan of Jesus, you can't really comprehend just what he's actually doing. 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:55.759 And it when you start to look at what he's actually doing, it is the most profound freaking thing on the planet. 00:26:55.920 --> 00:27:08.240 There's no other teacher, master, spiritual teacher, there's nobody else on the planet in the history of this planet that is doing or has done what Jesus is currently doing on the planet. 00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:21.359 Now, because it's based in a religion, people, you know, they poo-poo it or they push it aside, but it's it's it's it's mind-blowing that he's capable of healing people of almost anything. 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:26.319 And he's not physically on the he's not doing, he's not in front of you. 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:28.720 Like, make that make sense. 00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:30.960 And I don't think we're giving that enough credit. 00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:34.640 Like, I'm sorry, but it's like let's say Jesus wasn't the name Jesus, right? 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:35.920 And he was a different name. 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:38.960 And we're like, dude, there's this thing you can call in. 00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:42.720 And if you call him in over and over and you sit with him, he's gonna heal everything. 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:46.720 Do you know how many people would be standing in line, being like, okay, I'm I want that? 00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:53.519 But because his name is Jesus, and because he's associated with, oh, he's the only way to God. 00:27:53.599 --> 00:28:05.200 And if you don't follow him, you're gonna go to hell, and like all these stories around him, a huge percentage of people won't won't won't knock on the door, you know? 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:10.079 And it's like, dude, is anybody else noticing how insane this is? 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:13.440 Like, Kylie, you're like, oh yeah, the alcohol was just taken. 00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:21.680 It's like the more I see these things happen in my life with him, I'm like, wait, you just took that eating disorder pattern that I had since I was six. 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:22.960 Like, it's literally gone. 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:24.240 Like, how did you do that? 00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:26.960 You know, it's like, it's gone. 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:32.720 You know, um, patterns of be uh relationship patterns with men. 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:34.079 Gone. 00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:37.839 And when I say gone, like it's not in my, it's gone. 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:40.400 It's like where, like, like I never had it. 00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:42.960 Right? 00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:43.920 Like what? 00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:46.400 It's mind-bending to me. 00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:52.799 And it's also mind-bending because I remember when I was like, okay, it was Jesus that removed my cravings. 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:54.480 And I'm like, oh, I'm a Christian. 00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:55.839 It made it all makes sense. 00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:56.799 I'm a Christian. 00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:06.400 And so, and so I'm like talking to

Christians and I'm like telling them my story, and they're like, wow, that's amazing. 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:10.400 And but it's also like, well, you're not doing the right thing, like you're not going to church. 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:11.519 What church are you in? 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:19.119 And it's like hilarious because I'm like, you guys claim this guy, but like you're like nothing has changed within you. 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:23.759 And so I remember just being in this space where I was just like, Who am I? 00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:26.480 Like, what do you want from me? 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:36.799 So it was just, yeah, it's baffling that he has this much power, but still Christians that claim him, like, I don't know. 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.599 It, but that's my personal experience. 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.079 I mean, that's everywhere in the world, you know. 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:50.960 Like, you know, there's um, you know, my my hope is that, and Julie, you asked about like my community. 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:54.160 My hope, I have a different unique path with Jesus. 00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:58.720 And I'm getting, I'm becoming more and more familiar with what that is. 00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:02.960 Cause Kylie, like you were saying, like I didn't know, like as I was like, oh my God, am I a Christian all of a sudden? 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:04.240 I can't all of a sudden be a Christian. 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.680 How am I gonna be a Christian and teach what I teach about consciousness and evolution? 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.759 Like, I at least know that I'm I know for sure I'm supposed to talk about evolution and consciousness. 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.319 But if I'm a Christian, like, how am I supposed to be a Christian? 00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:19.119 Like I had like a real come to Jesus legit. 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:24.160 Um, and then it became very clear like, no, here's what we're doing together. 00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:28.559 And so I had to kind of peel it apart and really really sit with it. 00:30:28.799 --> 00:31:03.200 Um, but the more I sit with Jesus, the more I understand, and the more I read the wrote the book, the more I understood the role he wants me to play with him is trying to dissolve the programs around him and on both sides or on every side, and try to get people to see him without any blinders on, like without any way. 00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:15.519 Just can you just throw those aside for a moment and see what happens if you invite him in and and then letting him do the rest of the work, right? 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:37.680 Um because I believe there are a large percentage of people that know Jesus in terms of knowledge and information, but they don't they don't follow him, right? 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.000 And there's a big difference. 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.839 Yeah, and you you mentioned this and we've kind of talked about it, but I just want to be direct. 00:31:46.079 --> 00:32:01.759 So what is

the difference between inviting Jesus in versus almost like converting to like a belief system, a religion in a way? 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:11.920 Because I think that people can get a little confused, like, okay, if I invite in Jesus, then does that mean I have to like be a Christian? 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:14.240 So if you can speak on that. 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:30.799 Yeah, I mean, again, I've sort of dropped into this place of like, I don't know what what's gonna happen on your path, but it absolutely does not mean that this is what I say, because this is what happened to me. 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:39.039 You know, when I first started inviting Jesus in, I was like, okay, listen, I'll sit with you, but I don't believe this, and I don't believe this, and I don't believe this. 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:44.720 These are the things I this, these are my absolute, I I can't, I'm I'll never believe these things, right? 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.240 Like, and so he's just like, whatever, he could care less. 00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:53.680 He just wants me to sit with him because he knows at the end of the day he's gonna change everything and he's gonna show me everything, right? 00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:54.079 Yeah. 00:32:54.240 --> 00:33:22.319 Um, so I always say to people, like, forget about what you do or don't believe, you know, or I don't want to be a Christian, like I, you know, or I don't want to have to go to church, or I don't want to have to read the Bible, whatever that those things are, just place those on a little, you know, uh bookcase and just start with inviting him into your life, which just means once a day, twice a day, three times a day, you just invite Jesus to come in. 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.960 Like Jesus, come sit with me, Jesus come walk with me, Jesus, come hang out with me while I'm cooking. 00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:39.119 And again, there's no you may not feel anything, or maybe you do, or maybe some days you do, some days you don't, but um that is all that matters in my experience, because that's all that I did. 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:47.759 And then eventually over time, if I committed to that, if I committed every day, that's the that's what changes your life. 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.759 If you do it once a week, not much is gonna change. 00:33:51.920 --> 00:34:00.160 If you do it every single day and you commit to him, he'll change your entire life and he'll show you the path he wants you to go down. 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:29.199 Um but I think there are pros and cons with religion, and so um it's never been the path I've taken only because it's just not what he's invited me to walk down. 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:37.199 Um I'm trying to be very, very cautious. 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:57.039 Um, and there's certain things that he's it's an interesting walk because at the end of the day, as long as Jesus is in your life, that's all that really matters. 00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:58.239 Do you know what I mean? 00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.719 Yeah, um it's a mystery. 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:08.000 It's kind of like, yeah, he he he says to me, and he was telling me this morning, he goes, Lori, it doesn't matter as long as I'm in their lives, right? 00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:09.280 And I was like, Oh yeah, you're right. 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:10.320 It really doesn't matter. 00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:13.119 Like exactly he's in their lives. 00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:30.000 I was thinking too, I know Kylie, you really uh when your cravings were taken from you, I remember you shared on one of our episodes that the story of the lost sheep, you know, that that Jesus would leave the 99 to find the one. 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.239 Like you really connected with that. 00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:34.400 And I think that's my little picture here. 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:36.400 Ah, oh my gosh. 00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:40.159 And I was just thinking, I was like, oh, that must be a really beautiful artwork. 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.719 Um, and Lori just moved moved her head and there's Jesus with a little sheep. 00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:45.360 How cute. 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:50.960 I bought that um awesome art that's very similar uh for Kylie this Christmas. 00:35:51.199 --> 00:36:08.159 But I think when you find something that Jesus um represents that that resonates with you, that is really the first personally, right? 00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:13.840 And and obviously we're not like, okay, now you need to open up your Bible and find part of the gospel that resonates. 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:14.880 No, we're not saying that. 00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:21.760 But once you find something about Jesus that resonates with you, that's the part when you start to open that door. 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:35.760 And that I have this image, I think this is from uh scripture where this image comes from, comes from, but it's in P, it's like an artwork or like some art that I've seen before, and it's a picture of a door and Jesus is standing right outside of it. 00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:40.880 Um, I can't think of like the scripture where this comes from, but you know, there's no handle on the door. 00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:46.000 Jesus doesn't have a handle on his side of the door, but you know, you're on the other side. 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:52.239 And so if you open the door, just a crack to Jesus, you're welcoming him in, right? 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.800 And he can't open that door for you. 00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:12.880 So whether it is inviting him into your kitchen to cook with you, inviting him into your car, if it's just thinking about how he would literally leave every other single sheep in his flock to go find you, or that he loves you. 00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:14.800 Jesus loves you. 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:22.320 I sing to my daughter a song that I grew up singing and listening to my mom sing to me. 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:23.760 Jesus loves me. 00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:28.639 This I know, you know, and so it's what

are those little pieces of Jesus? 00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.199 And Aaron Abke on his Jesus Way podcast. 00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:37.280 I don't know if you've listened to that, but he talks about, you know, Jesus is God, God is all-loving, all-encompassing. 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.239 Like there's these parts to Jesus we know are true. 00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:44.639 And I don't necessarily need to see scripture that reminds me that. 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:46.639 I don't need somebody to tell me that. 00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.239 I know that Jesus loves me no matter what. 00:37:50.559 --> 00:38:00.079 And, you know, that's sometimes I feel like the first thing you gotta do is just find that peace where you can start to build that relationship. 00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:04.320 I don't know. 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.000 Yeah, and it's different for everybody. 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:08.960 That's the cool part. 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:11.599 Yeah, it's different for everybody. 00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:15.760 And um, man, my my mind just went completely blank. 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:18.320 It's so weird. 00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:20.480 It just blanked. 00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:27.440 Um about Jesus or about what I said, just went blank. 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:28.719 What were you just saying? 00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:29.840 What were you just talking about? 00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.239 Well, just that you find the in, right? 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.920 Like the way that you evolved your relationship to Jesus and and just separate from religion, right? 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:44.000 You can go to church, and if that resonates with you, if if that's a way to find Jesus, we love stories for you. 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.880 Yeah, stories in the Bible, they're so freaking fun. 00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:53.760 So this is how Jesus blew my mind because I was like a staunch no Bible Jesus. 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.440 Like, I'm a no Bible, I'm a no Bible girl. 00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:01.039 Okay, so I'll do this with you, but no Bible. 00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:05.519 And all of a sudden he'd be like, open up the Bible. 00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:06.800 First of all, get the Bible. 00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.079 So then I got this amazing Bible, and then it was like, okay, sit with me. 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:12.239 So I I used not used to, I still do. 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:16.320 I sit at least 30 minutes, sometimes an hour every single day with him. 00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.519 It's a non-negotiable for the most part. 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:25.280 And so um he'll say, start saying, open your Bible, or he'll say, I want you to read all of Matthew. 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:26.880 And I'm like, excuse me, come again. 00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:32.960 And so when I first started to read the Bible, I had my own egoic like guard up. 00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:37.280 I was like, this is nonsense, this is stupid, it's all judgmental, right? 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:44.800 So, like my frame of

my beliefs framed how I interpreted the Bible in the beginning. 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:46.719 I was very stubborn Lori. 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:57.119 Um, and over time I started to soften to the Bible, and I was like, holy, holy cow, wait a second. 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:01.519 And then I started really understanding the power of the Bible. 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:06.639 And then I started, and then as Jesus was teaching me separate from the Bible, right? 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.519 So there was a method to Jesus' madness. 00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:13.440 Like he would teach me, and then he would say, now go look at this part of the Bible. 00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:19.679 So then I would go read it, and I was like, Oh, you were talking about this part of the spiritual battle. 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:24.320 Like, yay, they kind of have it right, but also they don't have it right. 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.599 Like, like they do have it right, but then they don't have it right. 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:42.960 Like, and he was showing me how he was like the things that he was saying, like the Holy Spirit coming in and the dove, and the like there's just so many things in the Bible where I'm like, oh my God, like holy cow. 00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:51.840 The these things are just they that when you can grab what he said and hold on to it for dear life, it really helps. 00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:58.480 You know, when you can open the Bible and just sit with his word, it really helps because you can anchor that. 00:40:58.559 --> 00:40:59.519 It's alive. 00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:03.119 The the gospels are alive, the red letters, they're alive. 00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:06.400 They're you feel close to him, you know? 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:22.800 Yeah, that that resonates with me because I went straight to I tried to start the Bible and I went through like the first, I think I stopped at numbers, and then I was like, this isn't penetrating me at all in a way, and so I started. 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.679 I was like, okay, I want to get to what he said. 00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:37.360 And so focusing on his teachings has allowed me to um follow him in a way through through the red letters. 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:44.079 So I, you know, if I can say I'm a red letter Christian, I would say I'm a red letter Christian because I really just focus on on him. 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:46.639 Yeah, me too. 00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:48.000 Me too. 00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:57.840 I've tried to read the other stuff, and there's some stuff that I do read, but um for me, it's like I don't I don't want to read before Jesus. 00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:59.199 I mean, I understand it's powerful. 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.960 I don't really want to read before Jesus, even though I know it was Jesus because Jesus was God. 00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:05.599 I just want to know, I just want to read when he was here. 00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.119 I want to read what he did. 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.119 I want to hear stories, you know. 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:15.199 Um and yeah, so I f that's what I what I what I tend to focus on. 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.440 I've tried to read a lot of the Paul, but I I just can't. 00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:27.119 Um, you know, there's some stuff that uh that resonates with what Jesus is teaching me for sure. 00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:29.280 Um, there's a handful of things. 00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:36.159 Again, what what Jesus will do with me is he'll teach me something and then he'll say, Now go read this piece, and then I'll go and I'll be like, holy cow. 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:36.559 Okay. 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.239 So he wants me to understand the power of the Bible. 00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:41.360 That's cool. 00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:47.920 Um, but yeah, like there's a lot that has been distorted, I believe. 00:42:48.639 --> 00:43:10.639 Yeah, I think understanding, and Kylie's done, I know you've done like some good work in this, just understanding the historical context of the Bible helps a lot to be like, oh, and and when people, my biggest pet peeve, I'm just gonna say it, when people quote the Bible as fact, as it was said in the Bible, so it's law. 00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:14.400 And it's like, hmm, well, let's think about who wrote that. 00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:18.320 Number one, the the time period it was written in. 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:30.719 And I truly think that the power of the Bible and the power of scripture is that it's not about what was written and what was, you know, directly said to the people who were alive at that time. 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:36.960 It's about what was taught, what was what was the message and how does it relate to my current life? 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.360 How does it relate to where I'm currently living? 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.639 You mentioned too, Jesus is alive. 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:43.199 Okay. 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:45.039 So it's like people want to read the Bible. 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.960 It's like, well, Jesus said this, and and you know, he said to do this, this, this. 00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:50.000 It's like, well, guess what? 00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:59.679 I'm reading the Bible now, and Jesus is telling me now what to do because he's alive in me, and we're walking this, you know, modern. 00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:01.760 Era together. 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.239 So it needs to change a little bit. 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:08.320 It needs to be, um, I don't know what's a good word. 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:17.280 Um, it needs to be used as like a tool for today's world, not exactly what was said. 00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:19.840 That's my biggest pet peeve when it comes to the Bible. 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.000 And I'm kind of similar to you, Lori. 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:35.119 I when I first um, you know, started my own like spiritual journey, not when I was younger and hearing scripture in church, but I'm like, the Bible just didn't do it for me. 00:44:35.199

--> 00:44:36.719 And it still kind of doesn't. 00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:43.280 Maybe that's something that I need to grow into too, but I'm aligned with you on that for sure. 00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:48.559 Yeah. 00:44:48.800 --> 00:45:01.679 Yeah, I mean, I think I just come back to, and this is what I try to teach, like, you know, there's a I think there's a lot of teachings. 00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:09.760 Well, a lot of what Jesus has taught me is so much more than just what's in the Bible. 00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:56.639 And but it's also it's um it's understanding the power of bringing God back into your life, the power of bringing that Holy Spirit and back into your life, the holy, that holy light back in, and and really understanding, in my opinion, in my belief, based on what he shared with me, is the reason we are the way we are right now on this planet is because that divine connection was distorted a long time ago. 00:45:56.960 --> 00:46:15.280 And the key to all of this is to reconnect back into that holy light, that Holy Spirit, which is why to me, one of the most important moments in the Bible is when Jesus was baptized and the Holy Spirit came back, came into his body. 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.760 And the reason I think that's the most important is he didn't need the Holy Spirit to come into his body. 00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:24.719 He was God, he was divine, he didn't need the Holy Spirit to come in. 00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:27.840 So, why did he want everyone to see the Holy Spirit come in? 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.719 Why did he want that to be something that people saw? 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:32.480 Why was that so important? 00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:42.639 Um, and that to me is the foundation of Jesus. 00:46:43.599 --> 00:47:04.559 Is that's why he is the way because he's reconnecting us back not only into creator, the creator source of all life, but he's he's bringing God back into our bodies. 00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:12.880 And when that happens, we start all the things we've been talking about start happening. 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:21.840 And it's not because Jesus is like the magic maker, even though he is the miracle maker, that's not what he wants to be. 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.440 He wants to bring us back to God. 00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:34.480 And yes, that is sort of the foundation of what he's been trying to teach me. 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:43.920 And you know, trying to peel apart all the ways that everybody sees Jesus, including myself, to be able to get really clear. 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:54.880 Because once you have that foundation of understanding, at least for myself, then everything else becomes sort of like extra stuff that's part of his teachings. 00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:13.599 But for me, that's really the foundation, like, wow, okay, so we were we were attacked basically by, you know, you can call them fallen angels or you can call them, you know, hybrid things or intergalactic or whatever you want to call them, but

they infiltrated the planet in a way that distorted our divine connection to God. 00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:17.039 And so this is all about coming back to that. 00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:20.400 And Jesus came in to say, hey, I'm I'm the way there. 00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:22.159 I'm gonna show you how to do it. 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:22.559 Yeah. 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:26.800 And then there's all this other stuff that you know is piled on top of that now. 00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:27.280 Yeah. 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:48.639 And what made sense to me on this, and we'll wrap it up after this, um, is that um Jesus, the man that walked on this planet, he has authorization to activate that Holy Spirit and that God light through us. 00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:53.199 And when that hit me, holy cow. 00:48:53.599 --> 00:49:02.400 It just like, and then I and then I just felt this like sense of relief because I was like, okay, like I don't have to do all of this heavy lifting. 00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:07.599 I don't, I just have to like let him do it, let him show me the way. 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:16.239 And he's the only one that has authority to get rid of the demonic energies in us. 00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:18.159 Yeah, it's only him. 00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:19.199 And why is that? 00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:28.000 So he's the authority of really connecting us back into God, and we can argue that because we will, people will argue that, sure. 00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:31.920 Yeah, but you don't know until you know, you don't know until you feel it, right? 00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:35.599 Then you're like, oh, shiitake mushrooms, this is actually God. 00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:37.440 I thought I was God this whole time. 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:41.840 And it's like you don't know that you're not with God until you're with God. 00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:45.920 And then you realize, oh my God, I was never actually with God. 00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:56.960 And then the next thing is he's the only name that gets rid of demons, and demons are real, and demons and infiltrated parasitic thoughts are what control this whole planet. 00:49:57.280 --> 00:49:59.039 He is the only one that gets rid of it. 00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:10.239 You can do all the energy work, you can do all the chakras, you can do all the whatever you want to do, but it won't, you're still gonna be in the loops, you're still gonna be in the loop of it all. 00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:16.960 It's it and that really, those two things are what like blew my mind. 00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:17.440 Yeah. 00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:19.840 Like what? 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:29.440 Like I could call on any ascended master, any angel, or any teach spiritual teacher on the planet, and nothing happens, but you call Jesus in, and it's like boom. 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:32.159 100%. 00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:40.239 And Julie and I talk about this all the time, and Justin, and we're just always like laughing and crying, and like, this is so wild. 00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:45.360 But you could talk about it infinite ways and still like be so astounded by it. 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:46.239 Absolutely. 00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:51.599 Well, thank you, Lori, for being with us today. 00:50:51.760 --> 00:51:09.840 This was such a fun conversation just hearing from you about your relationship with Jesus and the insight that you can give us uh on growing our own relationship with Jesus and and growing deeper into that relationship every single day, surrendering to him. 00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:12.639 That was just so beautiful. 00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:14.639 Thank you so much for being here. 00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:16.880 Yeah, thanks, ladies, for having me. 00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:20.800 Um, I always want to talk about Jesus, so I love it. 00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:22.639 I love it so much. 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:27.519 I'm so grateful that you um answered my message when I just reached out to you as a stranger. 00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:28.960 And so I just thank you. 00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:30.559 Talk about Jesus. 00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:31.679 Oh my goodness. 00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:33.519 That was definitely spirit-led. 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:42.639 Yeah, and just your generosity of your time um and your commitment to um just help people bring God back into their life. 00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:43.280 Yeah. 00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:44.800 So thank you. 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.199 Um, and we're just so grateful. 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:47.840 Yeah. 00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:48.239 Yeah. 00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:53.039 And where can our listeners um get in touch with you? 00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:58.239 Or um if they want to know more about you or follow you, where can they go? 00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:03.440 Yeah, they can um go to Lori L-O-R-I-E-L A D D dot com. 00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:04.320 That's my website. 00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:09.280 And then Lori underscore lad is Instagram and YouTube and Facebook. 00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.880 Yeah, definitely check her out on social media. 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:14.480 You post amazing videos. 00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:19.440 Every time I watch one of your videos, I'm like lit up from the inside. 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:20.239 Like, okay. 00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:21.840 She has a gift, yes. 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:26.960 She's she knows something is so I love it. 00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:29.679 So definitely check her out on our social media pages. 00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:32.960 Um, but thank you so much. 00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:39.119 And uh, we would love to have you back on too if you're ever interested, because this was such an interesting conversation. 00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:40.480 Uh yeah, for sure. 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:43.440 Yay! Well, thank you for listening. 00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:48.159 This has been the Miracle Path Podcast, and we'll see you guys next time. 00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:50.480 Bye bye.