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spit in my meteorology game. The Hoff: You were you were just in some serious game and I was impressed. I'm like, I don't know what this cap means, but okay The most ⁓ most weather savvy I ever got was the heat dome that we had down here Brett: And I was way off. I don't either. I think the heat dome and the cap are the same thing. And then there's Sahara dust. The Hoff: Are they? Oh yes, I do remember that. was when it was a, it didn't matter what direction you looked, it was just reddish orange like sky and just kind of weird. Anywho, yeah, so some rough weather rolled through. Yeah, we went to a hell of a cool place last night and watched the stars lose their overtime game, the playoff game, and then had an interesting conversation about how the NHL playoffs make zero sense as far as the seeding. And. Brett: I was thinking you were talking about the guy from Minnesota. The Hoff: nice gent from Minnesota that decided to start just without even saying hello, nice to meet you. What's your name? My name is this. Just started spitting politics. What hell, man? Holy God. Brett: get it you're excited you moved to Texas guy, but come ⁓ The Hoff: Dude, yeah. And it's like, we're all aware of each state's variation. Well, not every state, but you know, been in the news a lot, you know, ⁓ anybody who is not aware of the differences between Minnesota and other states on their political, majority political views up there, you kind of had your head in the sand. And you know what? So what, dude? It's like, yeah, everybody's different. ⁓ like. Brett: Yeah. The Hoff: I can't believe that they get away with doing this and doing that and doing this and I'm like, dude, you live here now, get over it, Brett: I wanted to sit there and be like, hey dude, shut up and let your girlfriend that played college hockey, like explain hockey to most of the people in the bar. Cause most people probably didn't know. The Hoff: Hmm. I was actually shocked as we're sitting there like in Minnesota hits that overtime goal to win and all of sudden a group in front of us starts cheering and high-fiving and I'm like what the hell are and then we got there we're all from Minnesota. Brett: I'm just glad they didn't do that stupid ass skull clap that the Vikings fans do. Like, they look so stupid. And they have no rhythm. They're all out of sync. Like, they're just morons. The Hoff: They were doing... I worked with a guy that was in Chicago. He was a diehard Vikings fan. He's originally from Minnesota. he, I sent him a message one day. I did not know of this Skull thing. Dude, I'd been watching the NFL since I'm like six, seven years old, right? But I guess I had just never really closely interacted with a Vikings fan. And he texts in Skull, and the text he sends back to me is the hashtag Skull. And I'm like, you dip too? Brett: You're chewing now? The Hoff: I didn't know what was talking about. Speaking of that, the draft. Yeah, you know, the draft is, we're not gonna go in depth on the

draft. It is what it is. There were some interesting pickups by some teams. It was great to see Indiana have five guys, five or six, maybe, they might have had more, it was five yesterday, earlier in the day, I should say. And then, how many did Iowa have? Brett: Yes. ⁓ yeah. Iowa I think had six. I was really, really surprised, especially like they couldn't even be Iowa State. So like, the teams like, hey, let's like draft some JV players. I don't know. The Hoff: Yeah. Well, technically they couldn't beat Penn State now. ⁓ yeah, now that entire offensive line deserves to go to the NFL. mean, they won the, I remember what the name of the trophy is, but they won the award for best offensive line in the nation last year. I think quite a few of those two as well, three I think of those guys were projected to go. Brett: Well, that's true. The Hoff: ⁓ There was actually, I heard a few people saying they thought Gronowski was going to get drafted. There were a few teams that were kind of eyeballing him. Brett: Really? I guess though if it was Grunowski and Pavia, I would dig Grunowski 100 % of the time. The Hoff: Yep. Or I'd take Grunowski. 100 % dude. And I mean, if you want somebody who's just got grit and heart and gonna work their ass off, like you're getting the exact opposite of Diego Pavia there. I mean, he, I will say this, but the guys on the field, what Pavia is on the field, he does play his ass off, but that's only a small factor. But yeah, I was, Brett: ⁓ yeah, ⁓ yeah. Like, a good human being. The Hoff: I hate saying this because it's a college, professional athletes anymore. the that he went undrafted as of 4.30 in the afternoon on the 26th, ⁓ he not been signed to a free agent contract. it was ⁓ You got was coming, buddy. ⁓ Brett: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah, ⁓ yeah, like the bad thing is he's probably gonna go to what, UFL and he'll be hanging out in Dallas so that'll be a bloody nightmare. The Hoff: Yeah. Yeah, he'll be on social media talking shit about, apparently he made a statement about how I got, I'm use my own words, I got jobbed in the Heisman voting and then I turned around and the guy jobbed again in the draft. ⁓ It's like thinks that everybody's out to get him. It's like, dude, you did this to yourself, ⁓ Brett: Like a chip on your shoulder is good to a certain point, but man, missing your whole shoulder. ⁓ The Hoff: You can't dog on St. Fernando and just walk away from it, right? that talks shit about that guy should be struck down by lightning. Brett: No, no. then Big Citrus. That's probably my favorite nickname of any Iowa State player, Big Citrus. ⁓ he's going to the Vikings. He's got to hear the... The Hoff: Big Dom Orange. his i mean that's not gonna bother him as much as jj d-bag ass ⁓ but on the defensive side so he may not have to deal with him Brett: I don't know. I don't know, both are really annoying. The Hoff: Yeah, I know, I know. But I mean, I'm a Chiefs fan, so everybody thinks my team is annoying. ⁓ Brett: Yeah, but the

Tomahawk Chop, that thing is awesome. The, we're gonna beat the shit out of you, you, you. Like, that's one of my favorite, like, football game chants. The Hoff: There's a lot of characteristics or factors of the traits of the Arrowhead environment that are very classic ⁓ and things take you back to ⁓ when you a little kid. Sadly, I realized this when I was up there for the Colts Chiefs game last year, a lot of that has been ⁓ overshadowed by Taylor Swift's and... You know, we've got Patrick Mahomes on the field. We've got Travis Kelsey out there. it's like, Chief's fan base just isn't the same. But you know, yeah, that's why this year, like I said, I paid very, until this weekend, I paid no attention to who they were even drafting. I was awesome to see they took Emmett Johnson, man. Like, how the, insane dude. Like, I could be way off, but he was. Brett: Yeah, not a bad thing. Yeah, I can't believe he dropped that far. The Hoff: In a couple of points last year, I want to say he was leading the nation in rushing. ⁓ Or at least the big 10. I want to say the nation though for a couple of weeks. ⁓ Yeah, the dude's a freaking gamer. He works his ass off. I've got my own issues with the Chiefs right now that have a member of the team that's still on the roster that if they don't get rid of him, I can't morally support them. Brett: I think so. He's up there. The Hoff: getting too bought in on excitement for this upcoming season. But Emmett Johnson being on the team, that was one those where like, ⁓ mean, dude, they just brought in the Seahawks running back ⁓ like, forgive me, I'm kind of in a brain fog right now. It's like my sinuses are going crazy. Yeah, I can't remember. ⁓ yes. The that came from Michigan State. They've got him and then they go and they... Brett: Yeah. Is it Walker? The Hoff: draft this guy, they go and draft Emmett and it's like, you have to wonder what are Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Pachenko thinking right now? Brett: better like focus up ⁓ The Hoff: Anywho, the Packers, how did you just, I guess before we move on, how did you feel overall about the Packers draft? I know you say every year they do the same thing. Brett: The draft doesn't matter. Like funny being down here and everyone's talking about the Cowboys and making the big deals about who they're going to pick. And I'm just like, ⁓ going to, ⁓ Packers are going to pick players. They're going to grab some wide receiver from ⁓ ⁓ school. That's going to be really good. Like they just, it's so boring and they always pick late. ⁓ The Hoff: It doesn't. You don't win. You guys do this to yourselves every year. You hit it right on the head too. It's gonna be some Max Cool receiver that all of a sudden is gonna be a hot commodity in the NFL. Brett: Yeah, yeah. They're like defense, defense until like the third or fourth round. Then it's like, ⁓ three stud wide receivers that no one's ever heard of. The Hoff: Yeah, yet for some reason, when playing in Lambo, they can fucking run all over anybody. Brett: Well, the good thing is there's nothing to do in Green Bay, so all they have to do is like practice and hone their skills. The Hoff: I don't know man, it's always crazy how works out how people skill sets transition to the next level. It's like I remember a guy with the last name of Bo Richter from Hastings Nebraska. played at Hastings College that found a spot on the Chiefs roster for like two years and that was the years they had Trent Green, Priest Holmes, Tony Gonzalez, Dante Hall, just know slinging the ball right and left and he was one of their best slot receivers. and was in the NFL for like two, maybe three years. And last I knew he, and then he just vanished. And last I knew he's back in Hastings Farman. Yeah. It like, don't know where he's like, think I'm to go play football. Brett: Yeah, I got his farm paid off and... the in, ⁓ I'm go ⁓ try football thing. ⁓ The Hoff: And you got these guys who are in college for nine years that they go to the draft and all the owners are like, no. Well, ⁓ ⁓ the that are near and dear to our ⁓ hearts, Iowa state, Nebraska and Iowa. ⁓ actually before we get into that, let's start off with a, on a bright Iowa state now has wrestling. Brett: Yeah, no. Nice. The Hoff: and I'm not saying this to you Brett, because I know you were already aware, but how exciting is that? Brett: Was I I? I love it like just another opportunity It's It's just cool cuz like obviously I've got a lot of friends still up in Iowa and we're all at the age where now our kids are starting to get into high school and stuff ⁓ and starting to see like these people are pretty good wrestlers ⁓ It's kind of in their blood and it's proven like their daughters and their sons are kicking ass. And now like the daughters have this opportunity to be able to go to Iowa State and more schools to, know, continue that passion. The Hoff: Yep. 100%. And there's a couple things on a positive note from this. ⁓ The fact that there are a lot of girls that are in middle school, shoot, probably elementary school, high school, obviously on top of high school, I should say, that are very excited about this. mean, that's just another division one opportunity for them ⁓ in the Iowa being a big wrestling state. ⁓ And really to see, really eager to see, you know, really how this helps like the state progress and growing more schools having, I know my high school ⁓ or my alma mater, they combined with a neighboring town and they have their girls wrestling team. I was talking with my father ⁓ about this ⁓ last week, father, dad, I why I would never call him my father. ⁓ Brett: I was gonna say, are you guys fighting? The Hoff: my father. But ⁓ he was ⁓ telling me, ⁓ and I forget ⁓ some the names, like I try to keep track of all the people from my past or anything like that, but ⁓ obviously getting up there and some of them are slipping out. And he up a girl by name of Molly Allen, I believe it was her name. And it rang a bell, couldn't quite

remember. And he goes, well, she wrestled at ⁓ Oakland Riverside in their girls wrestling team. ⁓ And she now wrestles the University of Oklahoma. Brett: Thanks. The Hoff: ⁓ yeah, and she's doing really well. and she was just an absolute bad ass in girls wrestling. I it. If somebody listens to this, they might check. I want to say she was the girl that went to state in the men's bracket in the men's tournament before they had women's wrestling in Iowa. ⁓ Yeah, was bad ass. ⁓ but the other thing, like you said, you had friends, have friends that are still up there. Our friends, know, ⁓ just like like ⁓ a lot my friends have kids. Brett: Damn. The Hoff: And you know, this is something that is another option for you know, our friends that have daughters and the thing that makes me smile about this is You know what? It's like especially in small-town, Iowa ⁓ you got a guy that you know, he wrestled in high school. He was very passionate about it was very proud of it And the guy just he and his wife just kept trying and trying and trying but yet you see him walk into the school and he's gotten army of adorable daughters, obviously, in most cases, and he's very proud of them. But, man, it would sure be nice if I just had one son to wrestle. Well now, that's cured. So, not only are these girls getting this opportunity, and this is opening doors to them, but... Brett: Yeah. The Hoff: There's a lot of dads in Iowa right now that got a lot of ladies in their house. A lot of young ladies in their house, I should say. I want to this in a way that can't be skewered. But that they're goddamn happy. Yep. Yeah. ⁓ Brett: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Well, and it's your kid. Like you want them to have every opportunity and this is another one. It's great. The Hoff: Yup. Now I wonder how many girls are like in between seven and ten their dads are going, what do you think about wrestling? Huh? Brett: Well, they should also talk about golf. Iowa State's women, they just won the big 12 title, the first one in women's golf. I wish I would have been paying attention to it because they actually had it down here at the Dallas Athletics Club. And I was like, how great would that have been if we went to the Dallas Athletic Club with a cooler of beer? The Hoff: Yeah. Hell yeah, man. Yeah. I didn't know. Dude, I had no idea what was going on. No shit. Brett: and just cheered on the Iowa State Golf Team. The Hoff: Every time they sync a putt, we start blaring the siren from our phones. Brett: Yeah, and then like you could wear that shirt that says, guns don't kill people, I do, from Happy Gilmore. ⁓ The Hoff: Well, I don't know if we want them to disassociate with us. Excuse me, you're... Brett: Hey, the women's gymnastics team embraced us. I could only imagine the women's golf team would too. The Hoff: It's like when Ricky Fowler's freakin' ball hit me in St. Louis and he teed off and somebody goes, it's a guy standing next to me, he goes, I'll give you 20 bucks to say your ball struck my foot when he walks up. I'm not saying that to Ricky Fowler. Brett: You might have been able to take him. he's wiry. The Hoff: I mean, yeah, you never know, those golfers can be scrappy. ⁓ But yeah, so, know, women's wrestling, I feel like there was something else that was on a positive, and I can't remember, but yeah, spring games went on this weekend. ⁓ And the thing is I was talking to you about before we started recording. this was, this is ⁓ anybody who's I want them to hear this. ⁓ Brett: Yeah. The Hoff: But Brett and I were having a conversation about how it's, you know, some of it's due to NIL, some of it's just due to the times changing. And also to, you know, especially for schools like Iowa State, you want to avoid injury, unnecessary injury, which by, by watching some of the clips of their practices recently, I don't think Jimmy's really being too cautious about that, but they are fucking hitting hard, dude. And, uh, Brett: Which is a good thing. The Hoff: Anyways, call these spring practices now ⁓ like Brett what I was telling you is and I can't remember the last time I was up in Ames I remember a couple guys I played in high school with ⁓ back Logan one of them played at Simpson another one played at Buna Vista and then we had another another buddy of ours that played in high school with us and we went up ⁓ and I remember being out in the parking lot, like we were tailgating, know, passing the pigskin around, know, cooler a beer, people are grilling and everything. And we went in and sat through a, you know, probably a two hour, three hour scrimmage, essentially. And they don't even do that anymore, man. The stadium, like they, I mean, I didn't get to watch it, but it just looked to me like, you know, everybody's kind of out in just a big cluster on the field and they just kind of ran drills. Brett: Yeah. It's all Michigan's fault. The Hoff: Some of them were cool. Michigan, why do you say that? Brett: because it would give Michigan another chance to steal the signs ⁓ know, ⁓ that shady stuff that they're known to do. The Hoff: Okay, okay. can see. I don't think Jimmy Rogers is too worried about science dealing. Maybe some other schools are though. I can see Matt Ruhl being paranoid about Brett: Yeah, but happens. The Hoff: So with that, was going say, they did do, this is why I say Jimmy's not really too concerned about injury, because this drill they did, it's called Midnight Alley. And when they asked Zamir's or Zamir Hawk, who's one of the guys that did stay with us after Campbell left, he was, you know, he's a truly a great talent on the defensive line. And we were lucky to keep him, let's put it that way. And they were asking, because they were hitting fucking hard, man. It's like a intense version of like the Oklahoma drill in a way, is what it looked like. I don't think they're not laying on their backs or anything like that. It's just like head to head combat straight at each other. You'll have to look it up.

You'll have to look it up. But Zamir Hawk wasn't minded his P's and Q's when they were interviewing him. ⁓ And ⁓ they asked him... Brett: Okay. The Hoff: ⁓ how he felt about it, or what the drill is really about. said, Midnight Alley is who's got the biggest nuts. Brett: Well, you know, one of the things, what was it? Was it the 2020 big 12 championship game we went to down here when they played Oklahoma? Yeah. Like one of the things I remember from that season and like see a couple of seasons before is you know, if you watched an Iowa state game, you were going to see some hits and if they lost, you knew the other team was going to fill it. And then after that 2020 game, The Hoff: Yeah, the COVID year. Those boys played hard. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Brett: never had that feeling of where they're just going to lay some wood and make you remember them. The Hoff: It is a, and it's one of those where I exactly what you're talking about. We've discussed it before where ⁓ it you get a vibe of like the team ⁓ over last couple of seasons was kind of, even the one that made the big 12 championship game versus Arizona State, there was of ⁓ what you see as like toughness throughout the season. Now ⁓ this is for all players. You can't take ⁓ one ounce toughness away from a Ben Brammer. ⁓ Brett: No, dude died on the field and then came back and scored a touchdown against TCU. The Hoff: He's the toughest son of a bitch. Yeah. And then Jaquez, who, you know, poor guy, freaking went out with a knee last year. Like he was one of the hardest hitting defensive backs we've had in a while. ⁓ Cooper too. Cooper wasn't as hard hitting. But the was, ⁓ and we know how banged up guys are when they walk off the field. And that's what's tough for any college football fan is like. It's, guilty of it too. Like played like a bunch of friggin pansies today. You guys didn't even know, no heart, no nothing. Did you have no idea if those guys are sitting in the locker room just going, shit, I'm fucking exhausted. ⁓ Brett: Well yeah, and hurt my back getting out of bed ⁓ I walking downstairs. The Hoff: But comparing them to previous years, there was a level of just edginess that was not there, it felt like. And some of it was the fact that the offense couldn't produce, probably. Fuck, I don't know. And then the defense was half of them were there. Shit, we were down to what? Five remaining starters or whatever it was. ⁓ They just kind of, ⁓ mean, ⁓ knows? Maybe they'll get to Penn State and that life will come back into those guys. Brett: Yeah. Yeah. The Hoff: this group that Jimmy has named, that's a realist is expecting us to be college football playoff contender or even a big 12 championship game contender. ⁓ But games are gonna be freaking awesome to watch, I think. Like they're gonna be playing hard, they're gonna be playing fast. Now, yeah, the spring game, ⁓ that's the ⁓ That's why I didn't wanna go overly in depth on that, so I talked more than I should have, but. ⁓ yeah, back to the spring games being different. It's hard to tell really. And I mean, for our three schools specifically, Nebraska, Iowa and Iowa state, knows what the hell they're going to look like. And I listened to multiple I looked at multiple YouTube channels where people are, you know, like Hawkeye insider and like, you know, Husker this and Husker that to see if I could get a solid summary of these spring games what stood out the main takeaway I got from Iowa was that there's a quarterback duel and one site said that there was a lot of incomplete passes but it was weird ⁓ yeah yeah this was the same site they said really not much not much has changed offensively from the previous season which okay Brett: It's Iowa. That's what the duel is about. Who can throw the most incomplete passes? previous decade or two. The Hoff: I mean, they still won 10 games last year, right? So I mean, as long as the defense is there, I mean, that's what Iowa prides themselves on anyways. But it sounds like their secondary is supposed to be pretty fricking stellar. And ⁓ they a kicking duel, ⁓ I which, yeah, intense news. ⁓ You know Iowa City, that's news. I don't know, I didn't actually, I think they would have called it a punter if it was a punting battle. Brett: hunting or an actual like scoring kicker. they've got a kicker that can score. That's like leaps and bounds for like their program. The Hoff: Well, now not since what n- Yeah, I mean, not since what Nate Kating? Yeah, what a freaking bad guy I was. But yeah, they've had, there's some bright spots there. I'm not gonna say the quarterback duel was, ⁓ they saying it was horrible, like ⁓ not back to, you know, two or three years ago, how bad that was, which, again, they said my brain fogged. I'm drawing a blank on my freaking dude's name ⁓ that came Michigan. that they got busted cheating for. That's what I was going to say too. Yeah, Magnum Aran. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was around the last time that they just passing was not happening. Shit, even when they played Iowa State, like that was probably the least nerve. And I don't even know if we've won those years, but I just wasn't nervous when we got down. They got down inside the red zone and he had to throw. And yeah, it's. Brett: was supposed say J.J. McCarthy, but I know that's MacLamara. Was it? The Hoff: I don't think they're that bad or they're not in that tough of a spot. I think Grunowski left them in a good place. They got Hank, the guy from Auburn there, and they got a couple other guys. So we'll man. They're probably going to beat us. Brett: save that for our predictions, our way too early predictions, ⁓ The Hoff: we'll get into those, we'll get into those. then the Nebraska spring game, very much the same I think that Nebraska ran more of an actual kind of formatted game than either of the other, Iowa State and But yeah, they also a quarterback duel on their hands. And it sounds to me like the receiver is kind of like their mainly your question will spot

right now as well as reading in the reviews defense um... it's irid three different articles three completely different views on the defense all yeah one of them was like her secondary is going to be rocks all and other ones like their secondary going to be quite weak in my struggle with big ten offenses unlike you need to talk to each other man Brett: Really? Yeah, more. The Hoff: But yeah, I guess Rainer going back to aim. I mean, we'll see with Nebraska. lost a lot for good reasons. They lost one of the best running backs in the Big Ten to the Chiefs. And then, know, Grunowski, he just ran out of time. I mean, their line was so damn good that three of them, I think three of them went to the draft. But yeah, man. ⁓ their entire team. It's just crazy because how they started the year off, how damn talented that team actually was. But yeah, going back to Ames really quick. One thing I forgot to add was that Raynor, his first name is Jalen, right? Jalen Raynor? God, how terrible are we? All I know is I, it's Jalen, yeah, it is. ⁓ I'm ⁓ But yeah, he apparently struggled. Brett: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. the invitation. Again, people aren't listening to us for our deep takes. The Hoff: first couple drives they had him in. And then I don't know where he launched like a 78 yard pass. But they said his number one competition in their little spring fling or whatever they ⁓ called yesterday, ⁓ Zane the guy from Oklahoma State that was only playing because they ran out of quarterbacks last year from Gretna, Nebraska. Yeah, interesting, right? Brett: Hey. That's either good that he's improved or bad that our starting quarterback is not good. The Hoff: I don't ⁓ I would call it good due to the fact that we've got a guy literally on our roster that, again, ⁓ I ⁓ hate right I can't even remember his name, that was behind Rocco and also he was our third string last year. Damn good little scram like a dual threat quarterback. But yeah, so this guy that is only getting the start for, for Oklahoma State because they didn't have anybody else to throw the ball and he was not good. And I watched a lot of their games last year and he was, felt bad for him. Cause I'm like, dude, I can tell you don't want to be out there. ⁓ is, I think he is actually in line ahead of Brett: No, no. The Hoff: All right, here we go. Connor Moberly. ⁓ Yeah, and ironically, think probably the most time he saw in the field, I think was when were beating the shit out of somebody. I think we put in every quarterback on the roster just so he didn't run up the score. anyways, Connor's got talent. He's able to run. He can throw the ball. Hasn't seen much field time. Anyways, ⁓ enough that. ⁓ It what it is. Nobody knows a damn thing about what's going to happen. Brett: Okay. The Hoff: and we'll just have to let the games play out. But I think it'll be exciting. I do know Matt Ruhl had to light up some media person at one of their press conference, because apparently he keeps getting asked a question about

the toughness of their schedule, and it's annoying him. ⁓ something about, I don't know if they're insinuating that Nebraska's getting screwed by their schedule or what. Brett: Okay. The Hoff: or that Nebraska's at a disadvantage because of their schedule, but he just said, listen, the games get scheduled for us. Like we go out there and we just go out there and play them. You got to play who shows up. Doesn't he can sit around and he essentially, and like I said, my, in my own words, in a summary, essentially said, you sit around and bitch about it all you want, but you got to play the games. And you know what? When we're playing these, when we're playing these elite teams, he said, we're, we're showing. Brett: Yeah, play the hand or tell. The Hoff: that these guys that are coming here, that are considering coming here, we're saying, we're playing these top teams and we want you here so we can compete with them. And he's like, that's a good thing. It's like, okay, well, you mean you don't share in the SEC mindset, yeah, we want you to come here and watch us beat ⁓ Dick State 75 to three. Brett: Well... And though the back half of their schedule, Indiana, Oregon, Washington, Illinois is never bad. Got Rutgers and then Ohio state and like they're, they're like Bain, Iowa. That's a tough back half of the schedule. The Hoff: Yeah. In Illinois, I mean, Illinois has had some rough years, it's not as recently they've been that team that can beat anybody in the big 10 on a given day. And I think they finished in the top 25 last year. But yeah, so that's the exercise we're going to go through right now. So Brett and I are going to do our way too early. Win loss. Brett: Mm-hmm. Yes. The Hoff: predictions for each team. We're going to go through the schedules a little bit and talk about which ones we think they'll win or lose. ⁓ We won't take ⁓ ton of time. Brett: Okay. I got, I, yeah, we can do rapid fire. Like one, I did zero research and I'm just going to pull it out of my ass anyway. ⁓ The Hoff: Yeah. That's exactly why I waited until like an hour before we recorded to tell you. Brett: Well, one, you could have told me two weeks ago, I still probably wouldn't have done the research. All right. The Hoff: Yeah, that's true. Well, let's start off with Iowa. Now, I'm going to admit something. Like I said, I've been wanting to do this for a while, but I'm going to give credit where credit's due. I'm totally doing this this weekend because I was listening to the two guys' on Iowa Everywhere, and Hassel and Williams did theirs for Iowa and Iowa State. ⁓ I was very surprised on how humble Chris Hassel was. He's a diehard Hawkeye fan, and he was Brett: Okay. The Hoff: kind of skeptical on them. ⁓ yeah, so let's start out with Iowa in the non-conference. Northern Illinois, gonna be a win. Brett: Really? ⁓ definitely. A W. The Hoff: I mean Northern Illinois did go into Notre Dame and knock them off a years ago, and Iowa State. We're going to probably differ in opinion on here. Brett: going say that's a win for Iowa. The Hoff: ⁓ well, I'm going to as well. ⁓ Yeah, it's it's at Kinnick on top of it, but I have never experienced taking in it an entire team of guys, an entire team of players into of the toughest stadiums to it is one of the ⁓ 25 toughest stadiums to play in for an opposing team. ⁓ And single one of those guys, well, not everything. Brett: Okay. The Hoff: A large majority of your team has never played in a Division 1 stadium. Brett: Yeah. The Hoff: And the ones that have were playing at mid-major schools, right? Yeah. And Washington State was essentially the same as the mid-major. Yeah. So I just, think that could be one of those where we turn off at half. Then Iowa. ⁓ This where Iowa, have one more game before they get into a hell stretch. ⁓ They've ⁓ Northern coming to Iowa City. And this one those where I... Brett: Washington state. Yeah. The Hoff: I'm going to lay this out here right now. know, Michigan, Ohio State and Washington on the horizon, coming off your in-state rivalry week, I see this as a tough game. We all know what has happened when UNI has gone to Iowa City in some, well, some of the years in the past. Actually, didn't I think they beat, didn't UNI beat them one year? I think on a field goal? Yeah. But. Brett: I think so. ⁓ The Hoff: Yeah, I mean, that's a sleeper game. I feel like could be one that trips them up, kind of like you and I likes to do to Iowa State. All so we're going to count that as a win, ⁓ Brett: ⁓ I'm going to count that as a win, but I think close. The Hoff: Okay, yep, three and And then ⁓ gotta go to Ann Arbor and they gotta take on Michigan, who got their, ⁓ what, $7 quarterback up there. And a new coach, but they've got Utah's old coach. I think he's gonna get him. I don't know ⁓ if he's gonna him shaped up, but I mean, ⁓ Michigan wasn't terrible last They just had. Brett: No. The Hoff: Indiana and Ohio State and everybody else in the same conference. I think I... Since there's so many questions about it, I think they lose this game. Brett: Okay, I've got them as a loss as well. The Hoff: Okay. Now, the news doesn't get any better the Ohio State Buckeyes come to town in Iowa City, know, foot, following week. And like you told me last night, I said, you know, Ohio State lost a lot of guys at the draft. And you're like, yeah, well, next man up. That's, and it's, ⁓ it's because like, sometimes I forget that not every school is like ours. ⁓ Brett: Yeah, well, and if they don't have someone, can go and pay someone to come in from ⁓ a good school. The Hoff: Well, yeah, it took me back to like, remember when they were down to their third string quarterback and he won them the national championship? Like, she's insane. I think, I Ohio, I did tell you this could be ⁓ an game because it is in Iowa city. Nobody really knows what Ohio State's going to look like just yet. But it's just, it's Ohio Brett: Yeah, yeah. The Hoff: I think that they get them in Iowa

City. Brett: I'm gonna say I was winning. The Hoff: All right, I like it, I like it. Yeah, mean, it's gonna be probably one of the better defenses, like they are every year in the Big Ten versus one of the better offenses, and it's gonna come down to whoever kicks a field goal at the end of the game. Now, there's a lot of pessimism around this following game, as Iowa is going out to Washington. This is where I'm actually gonna be positive. ⁓ Brett: Okay. The Hoff: I know there's this whole thought of like a lot of people have this whole day once you travel to time zones it makes it a lot harder to win. I think they go out there and they get it done. Brett: Okay, so got a W for Washington. I'm going with a W as well. The Hoff: So are you're what at five and one right now? I think we're both at five and one. Four and two. God, I thought you were gonna be more positive on Iowa. I actually... Brett: Yes, five and one and you're at four and two. How could I be less positive? Like, they've got one loss. The Hoff: No, ⁓ I thought ⁓ was going to be... I'm sorry, I misworded that. I thought I was going to be the more positive one on Iowa. You were going to be the more pessimistic. But now this is where Iowa fans that list that we know that listen to this are going to get pissy. I think they're going lose the next week because they've got to go up to good old Minneapolis, St. Paul and take on the Gophers. Brett: ⁓ The Hoff: And we all know what we've been hearing the last, three years? No, not well that too, but, I mean, they whooped Minnesota's ass last year. no, we've been hearing that was a fair catch or that wasn't a fair catch. ⁓ but, ⁓ I think, you know, coming off that stretch, dude, I mean, look at the emotion of this in-state rival. and I, the FCS school, there's, if you play them, you know, Brett: R-row the boat? You The Hoff: you better come with your freaking guns loaded. And then you gotta go to Ann Arbor, you got Ohio State coming to town, then you gotta go out and play in Washington, which is actually one of the tougher environments, I think, in the Big Ten. And I think that they're gonna be sleeping or fucking just flat out worn out when Minnesota rolls around. And Minnesota capitalizes on Iowa every single fucking time they're in that situation. Brett: ⁓ yeah, I've got it as an L for them. The Hoff: Yup. Then I, they're going up to, I'm sorry, Wisconsin's coming to Iowa City the week with good Abu Sama on the roster. ⁓ Actually a other guys from Iowa State, but I think Iowa wins that one because Wisconsin's been just a fucking train wreck. Brett: I've got Wisconsin as a win as well. The Hoff: Iowa winning or Wisconsin winning? Iowa winning, yes. So I think Iowa wins that one. ⁓ I'm going to just say, I think going to win that, but for some reason Northwestern likes to somehow finish with a below 500 record, but knock off all the good teams in the conference. Brett: Iowa Women. going to say Northwestern wins ⁓ Iowa with an L. Yeah. The Hoff: It's in Chicago. yeah. Cause shit, almost, they, did they almost be, an Indiana last year. It was like Michigan or Ohio state, one of the two. but then, okay. So then they got the Boilermakers coming to town. Boilermakers could, ⁓ you to talk about a team that ⁓ nobody a shit about. so ⁓ I they've all, but wanted to get rid of the football program. Brett: which is basketball season start. The Hoff: Purdue comes to town, that's going be a win. They got to go to Champaign and play Illinois. Brett: So I got Purdue beating them. The Hoff: What? With who on their roster? don't even know. Brett: It's a gut feeling. It's a way too early prediction. The Hoff: Purdue reminds me of the team that they're putting out open invites on campus. They're like, please come to open tryouts. And then they got Illinois, which I think they can win that one. Brett: Hey, this could be their time to shine. I've got it as a loss. The Hoff: Okay. Man, this tides have turned. and then they got Nebraska coming to Iowa city. I would, you know, for the Husker fans that we have that listen to, I would love to say this is the year. I think you guys are going to do it, but you got, you know, TJ Latif did well last year, you know, for, for Nebraska after my homes junior left. Um, but if, if he's the guy you're relying on, I just don't know if you're going to have enough to. get over Iowa defense just, know, like I said, way too early predictions. I think Iowa is going to get them again. Brett: Okay. I'm, I'm, I'm saying this the year I'm saying Nebraska wins. The Hoff: Okay, good god, boy. The script really flipped. So what did I end up with? Brett: You were nine and three? The Hoff: Okay. That's about right. Brett: and I'm six and six. The Hoff: Holy shit. So you think they're going to start off hot, knock maybe, you know, play some teams tough that they weren't expecting them to, and then they're going to shit the bed against all the lower tier teams at the second half of the season? Brett: I can't wait till they're five and one and all the Iowa fans are chirping and then they just lose every game after it. It's gonna be wonderful. Yes, yes. The Hoff: You mean like we do every year? Not every year, but not something is a far shot for Iowa State. All right, let's go down the and across the Missouri River to good old Lincoln, Nebraska, where the Ohio are coming to Lincoln. That will be a win. Thankfully, they're playing them in Lincoln. They're not going to Athens, because we all know what happens when that happens. Brett: ⁓ yeah. The Hoff: And then they got to play staying with the state of Ohio They should just have these two teams travel over together bowling green also comes to Lincoln falling week again, I think it's a that's ⁓ we've we've seen Nebraska fuck around and you know win a lot of these games by two or three scores in the past where they should have blown them out, but I think they win that one ⁓ and they Actually, they North Dakota coming to town. Was it North

Dakota? Brett: Agree. The Hoff: that almost beat them. Like I think some of them in the last like foot throw. Yeah. No, that's, ⁓ South Dakota state. So yeah. Yeah. North Dakota, they are what? The Eagles now or they used to be the fighting Sue and they can't, they can't do that anymore. So they'll, should get strong and start of certain three and O and then they got Michigan state coming to town. They go to Michigan state. Michigan state was kind of shit last year. Brett: Yeah, yeah, the Jackrabbits. ⁓ okay. Okay. The Hoff: Again, this is so hard to predict because you don't... this is not the same team from last year and they're all different players on all three of these teams. I mean, I'm just gonna say they can... Nebraska can start out 5-0. ⁓ can beat Michigan State. Maryland has been consistently pretty rough. And last year they had to go, I think they... Brett: Yeah. The Hoff: think they had to go out to Maryland. Maryland comes to Lincoln this year. I think they get them. I think Nebraska could start 5 and 0. then, what about you? How are you sitting on this? Brett: So I've got you at 5-0 going into the Indiana game. I've got him at 5-0 going into the Indiana game as well. The Hoff: All right, and Indiana good old Hoover from down at TCU at quarterback, which I just, I set with ⁓ our former that is an Indiana alumni. And I said, you guys need to reset your expectations going into this season. Josh Hoover is not ⁓ Fernando Mendoza. in one game he's going to be the best quarterback in the conference and the next game you're going to wonder how the hell he even got to play D1. Right so I think Indiana will probably who knows it's they will win that then has to go out to good old Eugene are you predicting Indiana to win that one you said? Okay ⁓ and they got to go out to Eugene which is just that's just a tough place to go. Brett: We'll see how good of a coach Cignali is. yeah. The Hoff: ⁓ I'm going to say Oregon gets them even though it seemed like there was a guy from Oregon getting drafted and every round of the draft is here. Washington comes to Nebraska, due the fact that that's not out in Washington, I'm going to say Nebraska beats them. Brett: Same. Okay, I'm saying Washington wins. That's our first split. The Hoff: Okay. Well, the next one's going to be a split too, because they got a Nebraska also has to go to champagne. Now where does not have a lot of mental fuckery with the Illini, Nebraska to something about those fucking orange and blue uniforms that come out on the field. Nebraska can have a way, way better team. Yeah. And it's, ⁓ they I don't I've seen it. Brett: just terrifies him. The Hoff: a different times where they just had a far superior team Illinois not beat them. Nebraska lost the game. I'm gonna say that's a loss. Brett: I am too. The Hoff: And then they get to go to East Rutherford, Jersey, ⁓ glorious state of New Jersey to play Rutgers. And they will win that one. Brett: Jersey. I got them as a win as well. The Hoff: And then the Ohio State Buckeyes. Boy, Ohio State gets to travel to both Lincoln and Iowa City. I know, right? Get out of that shit. mean, Ohio's so depressing. Yeah, so they get to come to Lincoln, Nebraska. And much as Nebraska fans would love to hear me say, or hear you say, if we think that Nebraska can pull off the upset. Brett: And they're so lucky they get to go to like God's country for like lucky them. The Hoff: Ohio State isn't questioning who's on their roster right now. can tell you that much. Yeah, they've already got their starting lineup, I bet. think they're going to... Ohio State is going to walk through that game and then Nebraska has to go to Iowa City. And then I, as I already said, I think they're going to lose. You think this is the year. All right. So what's that put us at as far as win-loss? Brett: They're building the roster for next year. I think they're gonna win, yeah. I've got Nebraska at six and six you. The Hoff: nine and three? Seven and five, okay. That's realistic. I didn't even look up what their over-under, like what their over-under is on their seasons. I know Iowa State's was five and a half. I think, ⁓ Anywho, but what the fuck does Vegas know right now, right? ⁓ have a blanks. ⁓ they ask for the roster, they get a blank sheet, right? All right, so Iowa State playing good old CMO again. Brett: Seven and five. Okay. Not as much as me, obviously. The Hoff: I went up there and watched him play Southeast Missouri. Brett: Are they playing in ⁓ is it OK? The Hoff: No, it's in Ames. Yeah, it's in Ames. In Southeast, it was funny because I remember looking up where they are from. Brett: Cape Girardeau? The Hoff: It's some weird, I'm not talking shit about Southeast Missouri, but I remember when I heard where they were from, I'm like, yeah, Cape Girardeau. And I think when they played Iowa State last, I want to say it was their first year in FCS or something, I can't remember. Nobody, I was listening to a show that was like, I think it was Cyclone Fanatic, and most of, they didn't know. Brett: It's not hard to do. Maybe. The Hoff: who any of the guys on the roster were. Or like I said, there was not a name that they looked at. They're like, okay, this is a guy we gotta worry about. it could be different this year. We don't know who the hell's on our roster, but I think Iowa State wins that game. And then they, ⁓ am Okay. Yep, and then Iowa, which I'm saying is an L. ⁓ And then we, wait, am I? Brett: same. like got them winning it. And then Iowa. Yep. Yeah, pulling green. The Hoff: Did these guys get group rates on traveling to Iowa and Nebraska? Because it seems like Iowa and Nebraska play a lot of, like we're playing common opponents. ⁓ They all get in hotel together. Brett: Maybe they're like, maybe they're like trying to like introduce a railway. And this is like the big push by Amtrak. The Hoff: could be like they're trying to maximize their NIL and they're like we have to spend less on travel. We're busing

up with Bowling Green. Green comes to town. ⁓ is one of those where I know a lot of fans are pissed off about it because we actually have to go to Bowling Green. That's the agreement in this situation. And Bowling Green, this is one of those I'm kind of scared of. Hopefully if they lose to Iowa they're that roster the teams pissed off and comes out and smacks them around but this is also one of those fucking Mac schools that just loved to shit on Iowa State season and pretty Pretty similar to that Ohio team, but I'm gonna say they win I think it's gonna be one of those where everybody walks away from I going. Holy shit didn't expect to be that close Brett: Same feeling, they're going to get the win, but it's not going to be decisive win. The Hoff: Yep, and then comes to town. Our Big 12 opponent, every fan base loves. Most arrogant fan base in the world for a team that just has achieved very little. But I think we lose. Brett: I've got him as a win. The Hoff: I think Utah is bringing back a little, well, they're bringing back some key players. So I don't know. I would have to, ⁓ ⁓ would have faith in us beating Utah, would have to see how good our defensive secondary is because they are going to be able to pass. And then West Virginia comes to town. I'm just going to say, I hope that's a win. ⁓ I it when West Virginia comes to town because their fans are a ton of fun. So either way, it's a win. ⁓ Brett: got that as a win as well. The Hoff: as well. Then they are going to go to Provo and probably, in my opinion, going to do everything they can just to keep it within two scores. BYU strangely is returning a lot of guys, some really good players. ⁓ And then ⁓ we to go to Tucson. Now the main weapons that Arizona had when they came to greatest and worst night of Iowa State's football season last year, all guys are gone. I believe. was just thinking, they're quarterback. He? No F of Heta. Brett: think he's gone. The Hoff: No, he was a junior. Maybe he's coming back. Well, either way, think we win in Tucson. Brett: I'm going off pure talent and I'm going with Arizona. Like that's a loss. The Hoff: Okay, yep. then our friends from Stillwater make the trek up to Ames and ⁓ bringing entire UNT roster, which somehow went from two star and maybe at best three star players the year before to all being five and four star players now since they went into the transfer portal. But... seen Oklahoma State when their team was way worse than this as far as talent and they've beat us. I mean, shit that, it was and Jared that went to that game in Stillwater. But yeah, it was one of those where ⁓ neither team wanted score a touchdown. They stayed within the 20s the entire fucking time and it was like, ⁓ good God, somebody Both ⁓ fan bases were I feel like that's what this game's gonna be. Brett: You The Hoff: knows, ⁓ this point in the season, Oklahoma State could be the best team in the big. Brett: Yeah, could be. The Hoff: There's a lot of people are riding high on them right now. I'm gonna say that's Jimmy Rogers game of the year where that toughness, that physicality steps and they're like, goddamn, we thought, I hate say this, but like 2011. Only not as good as that team, but yeah, maybe they're gonna be riding high and they're gonna come in and trip up and aims. So I'll give them the winner. Brett: I'm giving him the win as well. The Hoff: Okay, and then Iowa State has to go down to Good Ole Waco, your favorite place. Hopefully your brother's there ⁓ the stands. Brett: Worst, worst place in the world. The Hoff: I don't know. everybody's there's people saying, well, know, Baylor's ⁓ probably going to be a decent, like, don't know why people I've just heard two or three different ⁓ analysts say they think Baylor is going to be, you know, good enough team to beat Iowa state. But then there's the factor that you're moving. It's like Dave Aranda, basically his team quit on him last year. Like the coach is still there. I don't care if you bring in Ohio State's roster like by that point in the season. I mean, I don't know. I think Iowa State wins in Waco. Brett: So I think they win. And the reason they win is because it's later in the season and it's not going to be 110 degrees in that blazing sun ⁓ they're like in the shade. Cheating bastards. The Hoff: Mm-hmm. Huh. Yep, and then being later in the season, maybe they'll have gotten into a groove at that point, if half our roster's not injured. So, yeah, could be a win. And then Cincinnati comes to town. A Cincinnati team that lost to Sworsby. lost one of their running backs that ran through our freaking defense like freaking shit through a screen, diarrhea through a screen, however they say it. Brett: you The Hoff: That one freaking football coach said it. but yeah. ⁓ and one of their best receivers is also now playing for the Kansas city chiefs as of this weekend. They're, big ass defensive lineman last year that everybody, the one that he was injured the week before Iowa state played them. and everybody saying, God, we hope he can't play. We hope he can't play. And then he played, and he was he basically takes up two spots in the defensive line he did not get drafted uh-huh I guess I'm drawing a blank on his fucking name right now this is just a terrible day for my memory but anywho yeah think they win that game ⁓ because think I think I almost feel like Cincinnati might be in a tougher spot Iowa State right now all of their good players either went to the draft or transferred Brett: Really? Huh. The Hoff: So, and then there's UCF down in Orlando. Brett: So I got Sensei as a win, UCF I've got as a win. The Hoff: Okay. Thank you for checking me too. was just rolling and not even asking you who you were picking. That asshole. Good God. Yeah, they gotta go down to the bounce house. You think they're gonna beat Scott Frost and the crew. Yeah. Brett: Hey. Hey. ⁓ no, I was letting you cook, Yep, yep. By that time in the season, he'll probably have some bartender

knocked up and he'll have a lot on his mind. We probably need to that out. The Hoff: Yeah, it's true. He'll have frequent five o'clock shadow from some rough nights, you know. But yeah, think they lose in the bounce house. I think they lose at UCF. And then we have Farmageddon in Ames. And ⁓ State at least their quarterback, ⁓ Avery. He's still And they've got... Brett: Okay. The Hoff: You know, they got a new coach. Wait, no. Yeah, they have a new... Yeah, they got a new coach this year? No. Brett: No, I don't think so. I think that was their men's basketball team. The Hoff: No. Fucking dude from Texas A ⁓ didn't he take the K-State job that used to play football for him? You're like, what the fuck are you guys? Coach. Colin Klein. Yeah, he was the offensive coordinator as of December, 20, but yeah, so new coach. It's crazy because it's been so long that we've been since we've been talking about these games and these other schools. I'm like forgetting some of these players and like some of their coaches names. I. It's always a dogfight. I think it's since the names I'm going to give him the edge say they win. Brett: Hinesberry? Okay. Iowa State. Okay, I've got him beating Kansas State as well. The Hoff: Yep. Avery Johnson is just somehow the, that one, that weird quarterback who it's like, he, it's like a degenerative talent. ⁓ like a a degenerating disease with his talent level. ⁓ Freshman year, know, expectations comes in, starts out his career just really sets the bar high. And it's just gotten gradually worse every year. So ⁓ I think they ⁓ did that put me at? Brett: So that puts you at six and six, so you hit the over. I blow the over out of the water. I got him at nine and three. Big 12 championship game, baby. The Hoff: Okay, that's pretty much about right. Oh, if they do that, will be, I will be ecstatic. I don't know. I don't know I'd get him and it'd be, it'd be probably one of those. They get the second spot on a tiebreaker if they get in, but yeah, I think it's gonna be Texas tech and fucking BYU again. It's gonna be the Mormons versus the oil men in the fuck, in Arlington, I think. Brett: big 12th championship game. ⁓ the 12 championship game. So we'll have to keep track of that all season. And then we need to think of the gets. The Hoff: Okay. Yep. Yeah, I was thinking about it too. that or something that loser has to do. Brett: When I win it, I should make you wear like a t-shirt with my face on it. And on the back it says like, this is my best friend in the whole world. And you have to wear it like to the gym and everywhere for a whole day. Yep. Yep. And I'm going to be with you. The Hoff: You have to wear it everywhere you go throughout the entire day. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, we can do that. ⁓ We'll get creative with it. All right. So that's ⁓ Ziffoos ball. It'll be interesting to see how accurate we are. I feel like six and six. We really sick. Anyways, ⁓ you you some other fun stuff you wanted to do. Brett: Okay. Yeah, so like

just kind of look around big 12 sports. Like I obviously saw the Iowa State women's winning the big 12 title in women's golf. But then I saw this school that I did not would not even think would be in the big 12 won the women's lacrosse. So I was like, OK, like you ran me you ran me through the wrestling and who's in the big 12 and. The Hoff: Hmm? Is it like... Is it like the... Brett: So I'm going to run you through who's in Big 12 La Crosse. The Hoff: So, and this is funny because you mentioned I didn't expand on it when you told me you gave me a high level hint that you were going to do this earlier. I started thinking earlier as we were recording here, I'm like, if it's like the wrestling, ⁓ knows who it could be, especially with lacrosse. I don't know who fucking plays lacrosse. I didn't know Iowa State played lacrosse. wait. Brett: Uh-huh. They don't. This was looking at big 12. So there are six schools in the big 12 women's lacrosse. Three of those schools are from the actual big 12 currently. The Hoff: Mm, I know. Okay. Brett: Or, I'm sorry, yeah, three, okay. The Hoff: So wait, there's six big 12s, the conference is six teams. Three. Brett: Six teams. Three are in the big 12 like when you think of football or basketball. The Hoff: Yep. And I'm gonna bet that there's one team that used to be in the Big 12 that is also in there. No? Okay, that one's out. Brett: Nope. One is in the SEC. Two are in conferences I don't even fucking know what conference they're in. Yeah. The Hoff: ⁓ God, how the hell am I gonna Okay. the three teams I'm betting ⁓ a women's lacrosse. I'm gonna say, they're currently in the conference and like other sports. TCU. No, they have a men's lacrosse team. Okay. Cincinnati? Okay. Does, since they're on the East coast, does West Virginia have a women's lacrosse team? No. Okay. Brett: No women's. Cincinnati does. No, the rest are all west of us. Of us. The Hoff: ⁓ they're all West, okay. of BYU or Utah does. No. Jesus, I'm running out of teams already. ⁓ Brett: Think of. The Hoff: Arizona. Brett: not Arizona, Arizona State. The Hoff: state, Arizona state. That is not a school I would have predicted to have. And then I... Brett: I kind of want to go to an Arizona State women's lacrosse game, by the way. The Hoff: a great place to go man. ⁓ my god who would be the other team? Colorado? Brett: You're right. Yeah, Colorado. So those are the three from the the big 12. The Hoff: Interesting. Legacy, okay ones in S ⁓ okay when they were never in the big 12 Okay Arkansas Brett: Then the next one, SEC. at Never Ever. Nope. The Hoff: gotta be somebody that would fit. Because I mean, it's like you look at the conference and like they're actually closer to somebody. Okay, Ole Miss? LSU. Florida? Huh. Brett: Nope, Florida. Florida, and they won it. They had a 5-0 record. The Hoff: Interesting. Wow. Okay. And then... Brett: Yeah, that's what drew my attention. I'm like Florida in the big 12. The Hoff: And then we got these two oddballs

that are out there. You don't even know what conference they're in. Brett: West Coast, like all in California. Yep, San Diego State. The Hoff: west coast. ⁓ so San Diego State. Okay. And then I'm gonna say San Jose State. UC Irvine. Brett: Nope, but you got the UC right. The Hoff: Okay, so it's gonna be UC Davis. Okay. Brett: You got them. Those are the six schools that are in the the big 12 women's lacrosse. The Hoff: Glad to know they can maintain a women's lacrosse team because I think they just got rid of their men's wrestling program this year. Brett: Really? Okay. The Hoff: UC Davis, but yeah. Okay, I did not even know, well I knew, I guess I didn't know that the Big 12 had a conference in La Crosse. Brett: I had zero idea before it onto my social media feed. The Hoff: I mean, I knew the coach, the guy who coached the men's lacrosse team at TCU, but they were just, even said they had to get, it's basically an accreditation. ⁓ have to finish so well for like two or three years in a row before you can be sanctioned by division one. So you're a club team, but you go around and you play all the best teams. Like they're playing Texas and they're playing ⁓ and they're playing whoever. I never did find out if they actually got. sanctioned or not. Brett: You think if they did then they would be in the conference So maybe they didn't The Hoff: No shit, Hmm. All right. Well, we'll hold off. was gonna pop quiz you on some names again, but I think we've gone over already on so we don't wanna. Brett: We laid some gold down with the the two early picks the draft coverage The Hoff: I need to go find my freaking brain. I'm gonna go to the gym and sweat it out until my memory comes back but Yeah, but Anywho, no, this is a great rundown. I was I'm glad we got to talk about just kind of a rundown the spring games I'm glad we got to go through our predictions as well. So we'll see if us two geniuses are anywhere close Brett: Okay, that always seems to work. I can't wait to see you just walking around in the with my big beautiful face on it. Yeah, ooh, I might put like some little like arms on it that does the wink and the gun. The Hoff: You know what? I'll be more than happy because if Iowa State finishes nine and three, dude, trust me, I will be riding on high. But, well, I know that the storms are rolling through, I guess a big ass wave, like just rolled through the state of Iowa ⁓ the last week, just brought some shit ass weather up there, storms rolling through, which ⁓ prime entertainment. So, it was funny. I was listening to a podcast in Iowa everywhere and these two guys are, Brett: Alright. The Hoff: Not two guys, but they two guys on this which are Andy Fails and It's Murph and Andy. Anyways, they're they both work at the news station in Des Moines and what was funny was to hear it from their side Apparently the night like the first night of the draft there was a tornado touched down outside of Des Moines Yeah, so they interrupt whatever's on TV, right? Brett: shit. The Hoff: Now Andy and Murph are both like, these guys, I don't know how old they are, I'm guess at least in their mid-50s, maybe upper 50s. So, you know, they're a generation even before us to hear their, you they brought this, and you know when the phones start ringing, when you interrupt whatever they're watching on TV, I was expecting them to say, and this has just took me back to like, ⁓ yeah, that's Iowa. I was them to say, people were missing the draft because they took over the screen. Nope. The prime time that they get the most phone calls is when they interrupt Jeopardy. And he said, people call in and Murphy even says people will be, they'll live in neighboring towns, like outside of Des Moines, maybe 20, 30. You know what it's like. We had the Omaha news and we live 40, 50 miles away. He said, and I never once. And my parents didn't either. Would have thought of calling the TV station and yelling at them because, well, we live near Mondaymon. There's no tornadoes here. Why you buttoning on my TV? If they were getting phone calls from people that were in these towns that are like outside of Des Moines, they're like, why are you interrupting my night? There's no bad weather down here. It was so good to hear them. They both just started grumping about it. And I'm like, this is hilarious. Jeopardy. Brett: Yeah. ⁓ jeez. The Hoff: With that, the storms are rolling through and yeah, get yourself some good old cold bush lights to sit in the driveway and enjoy. So, yeah, thank you all for listening again. I'll have more energy on the next episode, I promise. And yeah, we look forward to talking to you then. See y'all later. Brett: And be safe. Alright, see y'all.