התמלול המלא של Talking Golf 08-18-25

this year, and Steve, we appreciate all the time 41 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:57.319 we get to spend with you and having you on 42 00:01:57.359 --> 00:01:59.599 the show for our final one this year. We say 43 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:03.319 thank you for that. So I know that the story 44 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:05.640 kind of came out and we chatted a little bit 45 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:08.759 last week as well. You did end up having the surgery. 46 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:11.199 I'll let you fill us in on what you're comfortable 47 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:14.199 telling us on what happened and where you are now 48 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:15.240 in that process. 49 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:18.280 Yeah, thank you, Thanks for having me on you guys 50 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:22.479 and congratulations on eleven years. That's pretty cool and your 51 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:27.159 last episode this year, so congrats to you guys. Yeah, 52 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.159 I had next surgery. They I did a disc replacement 53 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:35.000 in one of my lower vertebrates in my next the 54 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:39.159 sixty seven, and went in there. There was a bone 55 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:40.879 spur in there that was giving me a hard time, 56 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:45.120 and then the disc was shot, so they clipped the 57 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:49.439 bone spur off. And then doctor Zaedeblick, who did my 58 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:53.000 back about eleven years ago, did this surgery as well, 59 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:56.159 and a great man, great doctor, and. 60 00:02:58.280 --> 00:02:59.479 Yeah, he went. 61 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:02.240 In there, took the bad disc out and then replaced 62 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:07.240 it with a prosthetic disc basically made out of I 63 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.680 think titanium and ceramic is what it's made out of. 64 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:13.240 So I'm another half an inch taller. I think they 65 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:17.159 leg in my herve ray and I now six foot 66 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:18.479 and a half, I should be able to hit a 67 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:23.360 couple of yards further. But everything, everything went well. Felt 68 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:26.680 immediate relief and something in my hand that I had 69 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:31.120 a lot of tingling and numbing going on in and 70 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:34.280 right away when I got out of there, that was gone. 71 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:37.919 Still my shoulder blade is numb, but I think they 72 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.719 said that could come back. Over time. But the whole 73 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:44.599 thing is just getting the pressure off the nerves. And 74 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:47.159 I've been starting to work out the last couple of days, 75 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.520 you know, some lighter weights. It doesn't seem like it 76 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:54.400 affected any strength. So yeah, all in all, I feel 77 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:57.479 better about it already. You know, walked out of there 78 00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:59.960 in about four hours. It's like an outpatient deal with 79 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:01.719 It's just crazy. You know, they go into the front 80 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:04.039 of your neck and you walk out of there. So 81 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:08.680 it's pretty amazing stuff that they do. And excited at 82 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:10.240 some point to start hitting it again. 83 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:14.120 Steve that injury, what impact did it have on your 84 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.319 playing ability? How did it affect you? 85 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:20.319 Yeah, I'm I'm not sure. I mean I have two 86 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:23.120 I've had two issues going on my back, which was 87 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:26.959 really bothering me during the AMFAM. But the strength issue 88 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:30.279 down my left arm impacted me at the start of 89 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:34.639 this year, and that definitely came from my neck, and 90 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:37.319 I was having a hard time just you know, having 91 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:39.959 the strength hanging on to the club, making my arm 92 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:42.560 move through the shot like I normally like to do, 93 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:46.600 and so I wanted to take care of that for sure. 94 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:49.439 My back has been feeling great. I haven't hit a 95 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.519 ball for I don't know, six seven, eight weeks probably 96 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.160 and only played maybe four or five times since the AMFAM, 97 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:02.399 so I've been able to give myself a lot of rest. 98 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:06.279 It's boring, but it's yeah. I've also enjoyed the time too. 99 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:09.240 It's I haven't really missed it all that much, although 100 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:11.560 at times I wish I could hit it, but it's 101 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:13.399 been good to do some other things. 102 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:16.480 Steve, when we visited a little bit last week, it 103 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:19.720 seemed like there was a little bit of a weight 104 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:24.360 lifted off of you, Like this is emotionally too, from 105 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:27.959 just the what you've had to go through, your upbeat 106 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.759 and optimistic about what this is going to do for 107 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:31.800 you in playing again. 108 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:33.879 Correct, Yeah, for sure. 109 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:36.839 It was one of those things like they said, you know, 110 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:40.959 you could use surgery and do it. I got like 111 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:48.040 three different opinions. They're like, there's definitely a need to 112 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:50.800 do surgery, but he's like if you got your strength back, 113 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.680 and which I did. He's like,

you don't have to 114 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:56.600 if you don't want. But it was in the back 115 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:59.800 of my mind of like, if it happens again, I'm 116 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:03.160 out another two or three months and then you know, 117 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:05.920 really about quality of life. I started to think about 118 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:08.839 I'm almost you know, I'm fifty eight, and then thinking 119 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:10.279 I kind of want to take care of this and 120 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:13.759 clean this up while I'm still in good health and 121 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:16.519 you know, young enough where it's not an issue and 122 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:20.199 hopefully never have to deal with again down the road. 123 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:22.279 And the you know, the. 124 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:24.680 Crazy part is from the time the surgery happened to 125 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:27.439 being able to hit a ball is like six weeks, 126 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:33.120 so it's really not that big of time away. I 127 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:35.720 just had to decide to take this time now, and 128 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:37.800 which I hadn't played much at all this year, so 129 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:39.120 I just figured it was a good time to do 130 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:40.639 it and get it, get it cleaned up. 131 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:45.279 Steve, we had Mario on last week and he said, 132 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:48.360 when you had the surgery, he hadn't seen you. But 133 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:50.800 since the surgery, he said, when I talked to him, 134 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:55.040 I can hear the enthusiasm, the change in his attitude 135 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:57.759 and the whole thing. Strictly on the phone. What has 136 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:00.319 that done for you? And where are you at in 137 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:03.639 terms of thinking about, for an example, the rest of 138 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:06.680 the year obviously maybe not until December, or what are 139 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:08.759 you looking at in terms of your future now? 140 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:14.399 Yeah, I'm you know, cautiously optimistic. But I am optimistic, 141 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:16.519 you know. I mean, I don't think I'll have to 142 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:18.519 worry about my neck at all. I mean, that was 143 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:22.959 really the only problem, and it's been an issue. You know, 144 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:25.759 I had a problem back in twenty twelve or something 145 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:29.360 like that, almost the same thing where I lost all 146 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:31.800 this strength. I was bow hunting and I tried to 147 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:34.079 pull back my bow and my left arm collapsed, and 148 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:37.800 you know, I lost my strength back then, and then 149 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.839 you know, I got some shots alleviated all that got 150 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:43.839 better again. So I kind of just have put. That's 151 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:46.079 really been the only issue, and I took care of it. 152 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:48.639 So I'm super excited that that's. 153 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:50.120 Behind me now. 154 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:53.439 And then I get to look forward to trying to 155 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:57.480 play again, and I'll take it easy. I'll take it slow, 156 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:00.680 you know, there's no need to rush. And I I'm 157 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:04.360 hoping to play in December. A couple of times really 158 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:09.279 the the Champions Tours talking about playing that World Champions 159 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:12.800 Cup again. It's down in the Tampa area, Tampa, Tampa, 160 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:13.439 Florida area. 161 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:14.480 Uh. 162 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:16.800 And then hopefully is he and I get invited back 163 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:18.519 to the pn C, so it'd be a couple of 164 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:21.680 nice events in December to kind of get ready for 165 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.600 warm up for and then you know, off and running 166 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:26.000 in January over in Hawaii. 167 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:29.319 Steve, let me ask you if if you which one 168 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:32.960 you think happens first full swing with with driver and 169 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:34.480 long irons or pulling. 170 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:34.759 The bow back? 171 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:38.519 Uh, pulling the bow back? 172 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:45.159 We were right, We were right. Everybody's been saying this 173 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:47.240 the season and what the heck is that going to 174 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:47.759 do to him? 175 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.399 And the answer before I asked it, and he won't. 176 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:52.639 You won't use a cross bowl, right, Steve? 177 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:56.279 Oh no, Shoot, these guys that use crossbows and sitting blinds, 178 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:57.519 they're not they're not hunters. 179 00:08:57.559 --> 00:08:59.320 They're they're country. 180 00:08:58.960 --> 00:08:59.960 Clubs in the middle. 181 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:05.399 But no, there was a reason why I did at 182 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:08.960 August fifth. There is a plan, surel to get that 183 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.399 done with and be ready for the fall soft. I 184 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.200 had my priorities, I think right for this, you know, 185 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:19.200 is to make sure that I get this hunting season in. 186 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:23.519 Steve, let's talk a little golf of what's going on now, 187 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:28.559 because the standings are final for the Ryder Cup, which 188 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:31.360 will be at beth Page, New York, September twenty sixth 189 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:34.600 through the twenty eighth. Kegan Bradley is the

captain. The 190 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:39.200 top six are in Scheffler, Spawn, Shoftley, English, Henley and Deshambeau. 191 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:40.200 Those are the six. 192 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:45.879 Keegan Bradley is still from a point standpoint obviously to 193 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:48.399 make the top six, but he's the captain and playing 194 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.000 at a high level. What would your advice and maybe 195 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.600 he's asked you, what would you be willing to share 196 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:57.000 with us on the decision he has to make as 197 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:58.600 to his own playing status. 198 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:04.559 Yeah, I think, And he hasn't asked me. I think. 199 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:08.559 I mean, he's a passionate guy. He's a very competitive guy. 200 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:11.159 The Ryder Cup means a lot to him, as it 201 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:14.159 does to all of us. But I don't know, he's 202 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:18.919 gonna have to ask himself like which position does he 203 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:21.559 really want to I don't know, it's which one does 204 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:23.039 he want to be in? You know, does he want 205 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:24.879 to be a player or does he want to be 206 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.720 a captain? And I think then you can go from 207 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:30.960 there to do both of them. I think would be 208 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:34.960 tough on his on the player part, you know, to 209 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:38.360 try to manage all the captain's duties and then and 210 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.639 then try to get your game ready and have a 211 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:43.240 clear mind to play some great golf that you need 212 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.519 to play. So I think I think he's just got 213 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.759 to ask himself because if he wants to play, then 214 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:51.679 he's just going to really have to delegate almost everything 215 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:56.960 else to the assistant captains and just be a player 216 00:10:57.039 --> 00:10:59.639 and get ready to do that, because it's just there's 217 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:02.200 just so much going on, so many decisions to make, 218 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:06.080 and either way, he's in an unbelievable position. I mean, 219 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:09.440 they have the opportunity to captain the team at best Page. 220 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:15.080 Is a dream for him, I'm sure, And so yeah, 221 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:15.759 I think it's. 222 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:17.720 Just coming down to which one he really wants to be, 223 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:19.200 because it's too hard to do both. 224 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:21.279 If you take Keegan out. 225 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:24.919 As from his own perspective of playing, what is he 226 00:11:25.080 --> 00:11:28.000 going through right now? For captain's picks that have to 227

00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.240 be made next Wednesday, You've gone through it. What's he 228 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:32.679 going through right now? 229 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:34.120 Yeah? 230 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:36.559 I think he's looking at that top six and he 231 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:40.080 sees a couple of rookies on there, and Russell Henley 232 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:44.159 and JJ Spawn and then the other four guys obviously 233 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:49.080 are you know, have played in this before, And then 234 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:52.840 he's looking at the next group of guys and maybe 235 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.360 he puts himself in there. Maybe he takes himself out, 236 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:58.159 that's up to him, but you know he's going to 237 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:00.279 look to try to balance that out a little bit. 238 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.320 You know, maybe another rookie that's playing really well. I 239 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:06.720 forget who else is up there? 240 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:12.639 Ben Griffin, Yeah, Ben Griffin, Yeah, Thomas are the next 241 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:15.200 three on the points list, and. 242 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:16.759 And Griffin's had a great year, So you got to 243 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.879 believe those three guys are in. So there's nine. I know, 244 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:23.080 Kegan is eleven. I think I don't know who's in 245 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:27.519 the tenth and twelve spots, but I think he's just 246 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:30.600 gonna look there and and actually start looking at pairings. 247 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:32.720 You know, we did that a lot early on, like 248 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:38.039 who's gonna pair well with a potential guy that's already 249 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:43.879 outside the you know, the top six. And you know 250 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.600 that's that's what we did early. You know, we made 251 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:50.919 pairings based on our picks and who we who we 252 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:52.919 wanted to pair with the already the guys in the 253 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.279 top six and and potentially, you know, you're probably gonna 254 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:59.840 pick those seven, eight, nine guys and then who do 255 00:12:59.879 --> 00:13:02.600 they want to pair with outside that top six? You know, 256 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:06.720 and you start thinking about that right away to make 257 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:07.600 out the rest of your team. 258 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:11.000 Steve, you played in two thousand and eight on the 259 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:14.279 Ryder Cup team, twenty and ten, twenty and twelve, and 260 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.960 then of course in twenty one captain and set the record. 261 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:21.360 As you look back, what are your Ryder Cup memories 262 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:24.000 and what part does that play in your total career 263 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:27.000 of success? Is that one of the real true highlights? 264 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:33.720 H excuse me, Yeah, it really is. I mean, I 265 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.840 think the biggest highlight of my careers is to be 266 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:39.000 able to captain the team right here in Wisconsin, you know, 267 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:44.000 at Herb Kohler's place. You know, we developed a friendship 268 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:47.320 over the years, you know, and to be able to 269 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:50.639 do that at his place before he passed, that was 270 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:54.039 something that I was really concerned about because we, you know, 271 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.759 we're looking at him and talking to his you know 272 00:13:57.399 --> 00:14:00.399 people and family about his health. And it was there 273 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:02.399 for a while. I'm like, cheez, and then COVID hit 274 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:05.320 pushed us back another year and it would have been 275 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:06.720 a shame if he wasn't around. 276 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:09.919 But yeah, that was that was. 277 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:12.960 The top of my career for sure, to be able 278 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:15.159 to do that. Never thought I'd have that opportunity to 279 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:20.039 ever captain the Ryder Cup and then the President's Cup, 280 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.399 so pretty special times and to beat him up like 281 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:27.960 we did here in Wisconsin was also really cool. 282 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.840 Steve, they're going to play that Ryder Cup at Bethpage Black. 283 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:35.399 How much does the course come in to Keegan and 284 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.639 his vice captains in choosing the final team and also pairings, 285 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:42.799 and how much can they do to give a home 286 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:45.919 field advantage at a course in the States. 287 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:49.360 Yeah, they'll look at that. You know, it's a big course, 288 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:51.919 you know, but all these guys hit it so far nowadays, 289 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:56.720 you know, length really isn't an issue. Maybe maybe accuracy 290 00:14:56.799 --> 00:14:59.120 maybe more so than length. You know, there if they 291 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:03.399 grow the rough up, if Keegan did his homework and 292 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:06.919 looked at previous Ryder Cups, the rough really won't be 293 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:08.679 up that high. 294 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:09.639 You know. 295 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.799 We widen the fairways at Whistling Straits a year prior. 296 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:17.600 I went around there with and the cooler people and 297 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:20.759 the grounds crew, you know, the head guy there, and 298 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:23.679 I'm like, can we make these as wide as possible 299 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:25.639 and let's cut the rough down as shore

as we can. 300 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:30.279 And they were very accommodating. So I'm sure Keegan is 301 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:32.960 doing the same thing. You know, they probably widened some 302 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:38.159 of those fairways. Hopefully let our length because usually the 303 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:41.200 US team has got the length advantage, and then let 304 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:43.559 our guys let it rip and and if they hit 305 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:45.879 it in the rough, it's not that big a deal. 306 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:47.480 And a lot of birdies. You know, you want to 307 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:49.480 make a lot of birdies when you're at home. You 308 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:51.919 don't want to be you know, you want to make birdies. 309 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:55.799 Get the crowd going, get them involved, and build that momentum. 310 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:59.799 Steve, let's shift Gearys a little bit and move on 311 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:04.159 to the FedEx Cup. Back when in your prime day, 312 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:06.559 so to speak, there was a guy named Tiger Woods. 313 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:10.399 Today it seems like Scottie Scheffler. He's on a different 314 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:12.799 planet the way it seems right now with the way 315 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:13.440 he's playing. 316 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:18.080 Yeah, I watched the last hour yesterday and you know, 317 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:20.799 I wanted to see, you know, how that was going 318 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:22.639 to all play out. And at that point he had 319 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:25.039 a one shot lead, and yeah, that chip end that 320 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.440 he did at seventeen was crazy, you know, I mean, 321 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:30.519 very difficult hole. Everybody was hitting it over there and 322 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.039 trying to make a three, and this guy chips it in. 323 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:35.440 He played that hole one under I heard and not 324 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:39.000 even hit the green regulation. So his short game's good. 325 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:43.240 His head on his shoulders is maybe even more impressive 326 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:46.799 than anything. I mean, he got fired up there a 327 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:50.080 little bit, but it wasn't like, you know, a tiger 328 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:54.039 Wood celebration or anything like that. It looked like he's like, oh, 329 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:57.919 I got one more hole to play yet. And so 330 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:01.759 it's pretty cool to watch, you know, and it makes 331 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:04.519 all of us part of that Ryder Cup team here 332 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:06.880 in Wisconsin, feel pretty proud when we picked him, and 333 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:10.440 it seemed like he has taken off ever since. And 334 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:15.160 he's a great guy, a great family man, and it 335 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.720 couldn't happen to the nicer guy. Really, it's been fun 336 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:18.319 to watch him. 337 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:21.359 Do you think the other players are intimidated by him 338 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:24.759 right now? I mean in terms of his playing ability 339 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:25.680 and the way it's gone. 340 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:29.279 Yeah, I think when they see his name up there 341 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.079 or second place or top ten or whatever, they're looking 342 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:34.880 at him like he's gonna make a move. You know, 343 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:37.440 he just doesn't. He doesn't make a lot of mistakes, 344 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:40.039 it doesn't seem like and if he does, he scrambles 345 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:40.519 really well. 346 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:41.920 You know. 347 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:44.039 The weakest part of his game is probably putting, and 348 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:48.680 he's you know, starting to do that better. So yeah, 349 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:51.359 I'm sure they. It's kind of like that Tiger effect, 350 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.200 you know. You see him up around the lead, and 351 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:57.599 I mean I saw him in second place on Saturday. Sorry, 352 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:00.599 and I told Nicky, I'm like, oh, there you go. 353 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:01.279 He's gonna win. 354 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:05.680 Another one, kind of like the Champions Tour was for 355 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:06.720 seven or eight years. 356 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:09.480 Oh guy, we're talking to Steve. 357 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:13.960 Let me last question for me, and that is in 358 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:18.400 your process and hopefully obviously being healthy and good enough 359 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:21.720 to have a very good twenty twenty six. Are you 360 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:25.880 recruiting for this tournament? And you mentioned the name Tiger 361 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:28.279 Woods came up a few times and he'll be age 362 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:32.799 eligible next year. How does that process play out for you? 363 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:35.000 And are you the one that talks to him about 364 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:37.319 whether he would be willing to come and play in 365 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:37.920 this tournament. 366 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:44.920 Yeah, I'll I'll definitely run it by him and we'd 367 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:50.759 love to have him. Yeah, and hopefully, I don't I 368 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:52.599 don't know if it'll happen right away. You know, I 369 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:55.200 just have a feeling like he's if he is able 370 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:56.920 to play, he's still going to play some on the 371 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:02.480 regular tour and maybe a major or two out on 372 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:06.640 the Champions Tour. But yeah, we'll we'll get in his 373 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:09.920 ear and see if he see if he wants to 374 00:19:09.920 -->

00:19:12.640 come for sure. But I'm just hoping one year that 375 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:14.000 he can make it here. You know, I don't. 376 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:15.200 Yeah, I'm not. 377 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.119 I'm trying to be realistic and not expect him to 378 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:19.960 be here every year, but it'd be nice to get 379 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:20.759 him here one year. 380 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:24.480 I got one quick story that I'd like to pass 381 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:27.880 along involving Steve, and he did us a big favor 382 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:30.720 one time. Remember when we had Jack Nicholas on the air. 383 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:33.960 You can guess who set that up. Yeah, I thought so, 384 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:37.480 So I kiddingly kind of suggested down the road that 385 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:39.720 maybe there's one more. And I got to know before 386 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:42.440 I even got the question out, and he goes, there's 387 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:45.000 very few favors that you would get from a man 388 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:47.640 like that. It's not going to be this one. 389 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:50.599 So Tiger's not going to look to be on Talking 390 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:53.319 Golf from the premiere episode of twenty twenty six. 391 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:56.799 Yeah, well probably not, but you never know. 392 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:01.319 Never sounds like the doors slightly open. 393 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:05.599 I wouldn't hold my breath on Steve. 394 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:07.880 We always appreciate the time we get to spend with 395 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:11.279 you all the best to you on your continued recovery 396 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:14.000 and health and to your family, and appreciate you being 397 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:14.720 with us. 398 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:16.720 All right, guys, thank you, have a good rest of 399 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:17.079 the show. 400 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:17.799 Take care of Steve. 401 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:19.880 That is Steve Stricker joining us. A lot a lot 402 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:22.559 of good stuff there. And Dennis before we go to 403 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:24.680 break about the golf course. So they're gonna play to 404 00:20:24.759 --> 00:20:26.920 Beth Page Black. I don't know that that's a course 405 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:27.680 that you've been. 406 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:29.640 At, bet you had watched them play. 407 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:33.920 Thoughts on playing at that golf course and the advantages 408 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:37.480 that a home course can be for Team USA against that. 409 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:39.599 They need to cheat, just like he's talking about the 410 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:41.960 need to wide enough the fairways and lower the up. 411 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:47.079 Biggest thing I had there was watching forget what his 412 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.279 name was, one of the foreign players on the tenth hole. 413 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:51.440 Mario was paired with him. The Mario was playing in 414 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:55.880 the opening and from the tee to the green is 415 00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:59.880 about to the fairways about two hundred and fifty yard carry, yeah, 416 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.519 and there's a path and this guy stood there and 417 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:06.920 he says, man, are they making these fairways ever narrow? 418 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:09.799 Give you an idea how tough it is? I mean, 419 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:12.920 it's long, and elevated and got all this stuff, and 420 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:15.160 I think it's going to be a hard place, but 421 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.960 we have to we have to prepare. Of course, that's right, 422 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:23.279 because when you play over there, they cheat until we've 423 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:25.720 got to make sure that things get the right way here. 424 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:27.119 I want to ask Dennis one too. 425 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:28.000 You're in it. 426 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:32.519 You're one of the assistant captains or for Kegan Bradley, 427 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:37.240 and you're on his staffs breaking news and uh, he 428 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:40.119 calls the meeting together and he says to you, should 429 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:42.359 I play or should I not? What do you tell him? 430 00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:44.359 Are you kidding? Get the hell out of the way. 431 00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:47.400 Let somebody else play. You can't do both. That's a 432 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:50.200 big job. What happens if he gets beat in one 433 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:53.480 of the matches? Yeah, that's what you have to look at. 434 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:56.039 He's got his job, should be the final. If it 435 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:01.160 wasn't for Steve Uh what's her name? Boys, Yeah, he 436 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:03.880 would never You know, Steve was the one who picked 437 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:05.920 them up from off the wall someplace. 438 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:08.279 And don't you think that's what Steve was. 439 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:11.720 Steve's gonna politically correctly answer that question. That's what he 440 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:13.319 was saying. Are you going to be a player or 441 00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:15.039 a captain? No Ques and if he wanted to be 442 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:16.920 a player, I think he should have. We talked about 443 00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:20.000 this earlier this year. He should have relinquished. 444 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:23.319 He's trying to be political, you know, me know is 445 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:25.319 the answer correct? I mean, get the hell out of 446 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:27.599 the way and do your job like you're supposed to. 447 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:32.400 The big key is pick good assistance because you will 448 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:35.640 not be able to communicate with all those various

personalities. 449 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:36.000 Correct. 450 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:38.680 And in Steve's case, he picked those people, Freddie Couples, 451 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:41.359 all those guys who you know, were admired and all 452 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:44.920 sort of stuff, and they zeroed in on those players. 453 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:48.440 So each one of those players damn near had a coach. Yeah, 454 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:51.000 and that's what they need there, really good stuff. Yeah, 455 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:54.599 you know, I mean, I the course is unbelievable. I 456 00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:57.759 don't you know. He should be the captain, not the player. 457 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:01.000 And he's having a good year. But there are some 458 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:04.200 people out there that are just as good and should 459 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:06.559 be there and probably get more of the bizazz. 460 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:08.559 You know what I would have loved to have seen, honestly, 461 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:11.160 And I'll talk to Gary Dematto about this. I wish 462 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.880 that Kegan would have relinquished and said I want to play, 463 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:16.720 and that would have been interesting, and I hope that 464 00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:20.480 I get selected to play and because that's a different 465 00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:22.759 experience too. But we'll visit a little bit on that 466 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:25.240 with Gary Demotol. The State Open is going on at 467 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:28.160 Black Golf Run the River and Meadows courses there. They 468 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:30.920 started that today. 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We could use some of it. 535 00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:03.839 We could, There's no doubt about that. 536 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:04.079 No. 537 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:08.119 Garry Demato joins us from sconsin dot Golf and we 538 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:12.000 were just talking about the State Open which is underway 539 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:16.359 now at the black Wolf Run. The Meadow and River 540 00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:19.440 courses both being used there. Gary give us a sense 541 00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.599 of what this week is like in the State Open, 542 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.480 and then we'll maybe let Dennis tell a story that 543 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:28.000 he can talk about on the air about his times. 544 00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.039 Yeah, well we had a three hour an de lay here. 545 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:34.519 But I just think they're going to get most of 546 00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:38.960 the golf in today. Leader in the clubhouse is Cameron Huss, 547 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:41.920 who went in the State Open two years ago at 548 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.160 Century World and has two other top three finishes. So 549 00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.680 Cameron shot five hundred and sixty seven on the Metal 550 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:51.759 Valley's course, which is playing probably a stroke or two 551 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:55.000 easier than the River of course. And so you know, 552 00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:57.759 the players will switch. Guys who play Metal Valleys today 553 00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:00.119 will play River tomorrow. Then we'll have a cut in 554 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.319 the thirty six Old finale on Wednesday. But I'll tell 555 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.279 you what, that River course. Both courses are playing tough, 556 00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:08.759 but that River course is just oh man, that course 557 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.559 is brutal. The rough it's like US Open rough. You 558 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.000 absolutely have to hit it straight on that golf course. 559 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.799 Yeah, this is I mean, what a what a fun week. 560 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:20.640 And it doesn't end the golf season in Wisconsin, but 561 00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:23.200 this is kind of the culmination of what you would 562 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:28.039 have as in state majors. And Cameron HUSS's he's had 563 00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:31.880 some success and obviously he's got the clubhouse lead today. 564 00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.480 What is it about him that will give him a 565 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:36.079 shot to win it when the week wraps up. 566 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:39.400 Well, he's, you know, got a ton of experience this year. 567 00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:42.680 He's he told me, he's tried to Monday qualify at 568 00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.440 seventeen events this year. He's gotten in a few, He's 569 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.200 played in some Corntrary Tour stuff, He's played in some 570 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:51.200 PGA Tour America stuff, and I mean he's just a 571 00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:54.480 good player. I mean, you know, every time you tease 572 00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:56.839 it up he has in a state level event, certainly 573 00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:59.039 he has a chance to win. I was looking at 574 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:03.599 the State Open has been played at Blackwell Front nine times, 575 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:08.160 and of those nine guys who won here, including Steve Stricker, 576 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:11.880 eight of the nine have at least played on the 577 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.799 Corton Ferry Tour. So you can't fake it here. Every 578 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.599 player who's won here is going to really. Mark Wilson 579 00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.319 won here, Steve won here, Dan Boltman won here, four 580 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.200 time champion, So this place is going to produce a 581 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:26.279 good champion for sure. 582 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:31.240 Dennis the pride of I mean, that's it's like the US. 583 00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.640 So we talked about the championships to win on the 584 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.759 major tour, but in state this is the tournament to 585 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.839 win that and maybe the

State amateur stayed open. 586 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:43.880 Yeah it is, you know, I mean it's supposedly the 587 00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:46.039 best players and you know in the state at least, 588 00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:47.960 doesn't necessarily mean the best in the nation. 589 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:49.119 But yeah, some. 590 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.359 Of those top five players can compete anywhere and that. 591 00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:54.759 River course. 592 00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.279 Yeah, it's really hard. And I'll tell you what's really 593 00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:59.559 hard about it. You mentioned the rough and stuff, but 594 00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:02.519 the green are really hard. Long time ago, when I 595 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.880 was with the PG president PG, we wanted to and 596 00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:07.559 you know, Herb and I were good friends. You know, 597 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.839 we did a lot of anyway, we wanted thinking about 598 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:17.200 taking the GMO up to up there, and had Ernie 599 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:19.359 and a couple other guys go up there. And when 600 00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.440 they got done, they said they wouldn't do it because 601 00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:23.160 the greens were too severe. 602 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.920 Too undulating, and there's so real yea. 603 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:27.119 So they said they're too much. 604 00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.400 So I told Herb that, you know, you know, I mean, well, 605 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:32.880 I tell you what we'll do, then we'll build eighteen 606 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:33.519 new greens. 607 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:36.359 That was his comment, that you will build it. 608 00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:37.880 It will be eighteen new greens, you know. 609 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.079 But you know, time went on and moving it over 610 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:46.559 to probably around there. You know, it was a good thing, 611 00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:49.359 and there are no fences there, you know, and whenever 612 00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:51.920 you have a fence around the place means you're not welcome. 613 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:54.480 And that was you. 614 00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:56.920 Know, so you know, it was good and the people 615 00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:58.799 that and they did a good job and it still 616 00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:01.039 is a good course for a turn may be a 617 00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:02.559 good senior, of course. 618 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:02.680 You know. 619 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:06.079 Gary Demodel joins us and a couple of things. 620 00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:07.759 One we just had Steve on I don't know how 621 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.319 much you heard of our conversation with Steve, but I 622 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.279 can paraphrase a little bit that he is very upbeat 623 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.519 about where he sits now post surgery and about his 624 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.519 ability to be back in and playing the game, and 625 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.440 that's just good for golf, good for all of us 626 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.000 who like to follow him playing golf as well. 627 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.400 Oh absolutely, I heard the tail end of his interview 628 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:34.079 and taught or text it back and forth with Mario 629 00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:36.759 a few days ago about Steve and Steve and Mario said, 630 00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:39.880 he's really positive and upbeat. So good to hear that. 631 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:43.000 I'm so glad that surgery appears to have been a 632 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:47.000 big success. And yeah, it's good for golf in our state. 633 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.279 I mean, he's got such a huge fan base in 634 00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:53.039 the state. Anytime the stricer family. As we say at 635 00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.559 Wisconsin doct Golf is good for business for us because 636 00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:58.680 anytime we write about Nicki or Izzy or Bobby or 637 00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:03.000 Steve or Mario, I mean our page, he's. 638 00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:06.480 You forgot one other one. 639 00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:08.240 Lots of stuff about those guys. 640 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:09.400 Whatever. 641 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:12.759 Gary, two arms went up in the room. You're like, 642 00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:15.440 what am I chop liver? Or what? 643 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:21.920 Tell you what we've given Dennis's due over the years? 644 00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:22.160 Too? 645 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.160 Oh yeah, I think so he's a We were just 646 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:28.039 talking in the break. Dennis is a former State Open 647 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.720 champion and uh eleven time runner up or six six 648 00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.000 times six time runner up. 649 00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:35.759 Hey, it's not easy finishing second. 650 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.599 Well, I true won away. I gave one away to 651 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.799 one of my assistants. Steven's point was nice of you. 652 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:43.839 Yeah, how many Larry went between the two of he 653 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.799 won one or two, Marios won a couple. 654 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:47.799 Yeah, you got a bunch in the family. 655 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:49.680 Huh yeah, you know one of those things. 656 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:51.200 Yeah, keep it in the family. 657 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:56.079 We were also talking Gary about the decision that awaits 658 00:32:56.160 --> 00:33:00.599 Kegan Bradley next Wednesday. Uh, he's got to fill out 659 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.880 his rosters with six more players. There are six that 660 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:09.759 are automatic qualifiers. Therein Scheffler spawns sohftly English, Henley and 661 00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:13.240 Deshambo and then he'll fill out the roster. He's one 662 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.640 of those guys in consideration. And I

want to throw 663 00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:19.599 this idea by you. I felt all along that if 664 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.519 he wanted to play, he should have removed himself from 665 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.079 being the captain and just tried to be a player. 666 00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.519 Do you think that there's a chance that he chooses 667 00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:30.480 himself as a captain's pick? 668 00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:35.680 No? And I heard Dennis's answer and he nailed it, 669 00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.960 because can you imagine you choose yourself from you go 670 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.279 out and you lose a couple of matches. I mean, 671 00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:43.559 the media is just going to be just on him 672 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.039 relentlessly about that. Sure, even though it might have been 673 00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:47.480 it might have been a good choice. I mean, he 674 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.119 might have been the best guy to pick, might have 675 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:51.599 been best to pick himself. But if you lose matches, 676 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.960 you set yourself up for all that criticism. Well, and 677 00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:57.720 if you really why I have to play, he should 678 00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.599 have stepped aside. You know, yeah, a long time ago, 679 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:01.920 and it's too late now. 680 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.119 If you pick yourself and you have somebody sitting out 681 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.440 while you're playing in a four ball match, and you lose. Now, 682 00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:11.280 how do you say to the guy who didn't play 683 00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:13.079 while you're playing and you lost. 684 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:14.719 I mean, I just find it to be. 685 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:18.000 Either you're a general or you're the soldier soldiers, and 686 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:18.960 if you want to go out to be. 687 00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:21.039 A soldier, you can't be the general. Yeah, one of 688 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:21.400 the two. 689 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.320 How difficult are the picks as you look at it, 690 00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:29.280 Gary that remain and you know Steve was talking about 691 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:33.480 rookies that are out there and getting some veterns. How 692 00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.239 significant are these choices that will be made in the 693 00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:37.320 next nine days. 694 00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.559 Well, I'm a little worried about this team. I I 695 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:42.559 don't think it's going to be a stronger team as 696 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.559 we had, certainly listening straights a few years back. You know, 697 00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.519 you look at Patrick Cantley's fifteenth in the points, Xanders 698 00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:54.679 Soflee missed the Tour Championship. He's had some good finishes 699 00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:57.159 in the majors, but he hasn't really won anything and 700 00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:02.199 finished forty second Athetex Cup points. You know spif he's 701 00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:04.599 not going to pick speed, he's thirty second in the points. 702 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.920 You know, Morikawa, justin Thomas, I don't think they've played 703 00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:12.280 their best golf so I'm a little worried about who's 704 00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:14.480 going to round out this team, and I think you're right. 705 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.000 I think there might be a name or two on 706 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:20.760 the team, you know, Ben Griffin or I'm Maverick mcneey, 707 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.440 somebody like that, who are high in the points, who 708 00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:26.840 don't have Ryder Cup experience. So there's a little bit 709 00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:29.679 to worry about. Thankfully, it's at Beth Page, which is 710 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.679 going to be a great equalizer. I think with the 711 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:33.360 fans support, there's. 712 00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:37.519 Some good players that are on that list. Nobody even 713 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.679 knew about Scotti Scheffler correct. He took on the number 714 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.039 one player in the country and beat him four and three. 715 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.559 There are so many better players today. Look at the 716 00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:50.440 scores they're shooting. I don't even know their names. Twenty 717 00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.400 three under, twenty four under. Some of these guys, and 718 00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.960 you mentioned some of them struggling with their game. We 719 00:35:57.079 --> 00:35:59.760 criticize it before. Now they have a whole bunch of 720 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:03.679 money and they have families and that's their motivation. And 721 00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:06.280 I don't blame them. My family would come before that job, 722 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:10.880 there's no question about it. But there's better players out 723 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:15.320 there today. There's some phenomenal players on that corn ferry tour. 724 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:18.639 Sure, and they have the drive to do it. 725 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.320 And the other part is is that if he picks 726 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:28.039 the right people for assistant coaches, assistant captain, vice captains, 727 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.519 and they start to go ahead and use that stuff 728 00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:34.360 to move this guy along. You can imagine Freddy Couples 729 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:36.960 picking one of these people and teaching them about this 730 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.519 and about that. How much better they're going to be 731 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:41.360 and long term would be better. 732 00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:43.960 Anyway, are we down to where we're going to say 733 00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:47.480 goodbye to Gary? Is that pretty close? Before we

leave Gary, 734 00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:50.360 I want to know one thing, where's he going? Well, 735 00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.039 if you've got more questions. 736 00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:53.440 No, I got nothing, you know, I'm just I'm just 737 00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.360 so happy to have him on the air. 738 00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:58.679 You know, since Tess has given you that tip, are 739 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.199 you ready for the River Us? 740 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:03.760 No, not by a long shot. But I'm working on it. 741 00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.280 Believe me. That's a that movie you taught me. I'm 742 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.239 working on it all winter. I'm gonna be a different 743 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:08.960 gol for next year. 744 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:13.280 Well, I will have to have your back indoors here. Yeah, 745 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.400 teach you a little bit more because I can't tell 746 00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:15.880 you everything. 747 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:20.840 Then you'll never come back. Yeah, right, that's right. 748 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.679 And we got to You gotta judge who you're giving 749 00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:27.440 it to, their ability to remember, you know, keep those 750 00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:31.840 But he has some possibilities. Yeah, I hate to tell 751 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.119 him when he's on the air, but he's got some possibilities. 752 00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:35.159 That's fantastic. 753 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:40.199 Not probability, not. 754 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:43.920 Probable, Gary Demano, we appreciate the whole full season of 755 00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:46.320 you being well. It's a it's a great joy for 756 00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:48.760 you to say yes, and we appreciate every week we 757 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.360 get a chance to visit with you and uh and 758 00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.000 we wish you a great off season. Our paths will 759 00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:56.159 cross again this fall. But thanks for spending all this 760 00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:56.760 time with us. 761 00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:57.920 When are we playing golf? 762 00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:01.039 You said we're Yeah, that's why I said our pass 763 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.360 are going to credit soon. I'll pick we'll pick up 764 00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.440 a September Tuesday, September Tuesday. 765 00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:07.119 Yeah, Okay. 766 00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.079 It's been an honor and a pleasure. It's a lot 767 00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:11.880 of fun. Thanks for having me, guys. 768 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:13.719 Yeah, thank you, Gary, Gary Demato. 769 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:15.800 We'll take it out on you on the golf course. 770 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:20.000 Yeah right, Garydemotto, Wisconsin Dot Golf joining is. We got 771 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.000 plenty more to get to and we will do that. 772 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:23.880 And when you come back with us, we're talking Golf 773 00:38:23.920

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But 838 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:56.000 Dennis could talk about this limited time offer. Play now 839 00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:59.519 and pay later. This is a membership you can join

today, 840 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:04.760 full golf membership with no golf dues until April first 841 00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:08.280 of twenty twenty six. Plus you can enjoy the pool, 842 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.159 the racketball sports, the golf range, heat it an outside 843 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:17.440 short game practice area and athletic performance center, grab a 844 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.599 meal and the Champions grill or the players participate in 845 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.719 a number of events and meet some new people. Now, 846 00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:27.800 there's specifics on the offer, and we suggest you call 847 00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.519 here to get all of the details on this. But Dennis, 848 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.360 this is something special you're offering to try and get 849 00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:34.239 a few more members. 850 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.199 Oh, we've got a little over one thousand requests for 851 00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:42.480 information on membership. And my point to this sales staff was, well, 852 00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:44.800 you know it's now towards the end of the year. 853 00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:46.320 I'll tell you what some of these people are going 854 00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.760 to tell you, and they agreed, Well, we think we'll 855 00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:51.199 wait till next year or whatever I'd like to get 856 00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.519 it filled up. We've got a limited number of spots 857 00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:56.400 to go to fill it up, and so we made 858 00:42:56.400 --> 00:43:00.480 this offering. You pay the initiation fee right join as 859 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:03.800 a lifestyle member, so now you remember, okay, one hundred 860 00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:05.960 and fifty bucks a month, whatever it is, but you 861 00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:09.840 don't pay any dues until April first, and be able 862 00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:12.480 to have your member so they would be able to 863 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:17.400 use the facility, play golf rest of August, all of September, 864 00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:19.760 all of October, and for those who want to play 865 00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.239 in November, we got about ten days in November. So 866 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:25.800 we think it's a good offering for people who are 867 00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:30.159 on the fence. There are some that are contemplating because 868 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:35.079 the remember someplace else and there's a waiting list and 869 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.880 I can't play for whatever length of time, and would 870 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:42.360 help them go ahead to make a decision that they'd 871 00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:42.920 like to come here. 872 00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:43.679 Tis. 873 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.559 We were talking about the State Open with Gary Demanto 874 00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:49.159 when he was on and you won your State Open 875 00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:51.920 at North Hills. North Hills, Yeah, what can you tell 876 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.719 us about that way back the tournament or how I. 877 00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.920 Played well about you you know, it. 878 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.719 Was really it was great. I was going along and 879 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:05.599 there was a lot of good competition, which there is now, 880 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:09.679 and I was in good shape until the eighteenth hole 881 00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:12.320 and hit it out of bounds. Throw the fair way 882 00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:16.159 out of bounds, irritating, didn't go to eat, didn't go nothing, 883 00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:18.920 went right over to hit balls. So now we've got 884 00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:23.280 to get into the last round. And I shot sixty 885 00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:28.800 seven or seventy in the last round and won the tournament. 886 00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:30.760 I don't have a couple of shots by that time, 887 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.559 but it was it was a very difficult. It was 888 00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.800 a good course. It was it was easy hard, you know, 889 00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.840 one of those type. But the fact remains is that, 890 00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:45.960 you know, I was able to go ahead to maintain 891 00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:49.559 a level of some kind of consistency for that last round. 892 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:51.039 But it was pretty good. 893 00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:52.920 I'll started out making a couple of two or three 894 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:54.480 birdies in a row right out of the shoot. 895 00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:57.480 So it was fun. It was fun. 896 00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.440 There's some that was a good win, but there was 897 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:04.039 six other times that I finished second. You know, different 898 00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.280 players and players who played good, but uh, the one 899 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:11.000 that stands out is the one at Steven's point. I 900 00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:13.000 had a couple of s. I had a shot lead 901 00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.400 I think, with three holes to play, and had a 902 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:20.400 young assistant, Rick Rasmussen, and he went ahead and uh 903 00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:22.599 he made a power or made a birdie or I 904 00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.360 made a bogey. He winds up winging the State Open. 905 00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:26.760 Were you paired with him? 906 00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:30.079 Yes? He was in your Yeah, yeah, I think I was. 907 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:31.000 I remember we. 908 00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:35.079 That was one that I was. I got sticks out. 909 00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.599 I hated to lose, but then it had a happy 910 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:41.280 ending because here he was involved here and went on to, 911 00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:45.360 you know, play really good golf and continues to do so. 912 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:46.280 So it was really good. 913 00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:48.599 A

couple of quick things in terms of your game. 914 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.960 Just curious, what did you do a lot of people 915 00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.039 have first tea jitters and that kind of thing. What 916 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:58.519 did you do in those kinds of situations? Did you 917 00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:01.639 have a routine that you used or anything like that. 918 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:04.639 You know, That's why I'm asking this question. 919 00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.239 So you're so I really don't. 920 00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:08.000 I don't. 921 00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.000 I really don't get afraid of anything. You know what 922 00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:13.840 I'm saying. Look at the other way where where I 923 00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:17.639 grew up. You don't get afraid to fight. And so 924 00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:20.559 that was my That's the way I grew up. I mean, 925 00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:24.119 I don't know what it means to be afraid. You know, 926 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:26.159 people talk about where you go when you're hunting and 927 00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.360 stuff like that. Aren't you worried about this? I worried 928 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:29.519 about what I've got a gun. 929 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:34.800 I worried about that nervousness that Paul's talking about. For 930 00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:36.280 the rest of us to deal with it? 931 00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:37.320 How do you do it? 932 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.480 Well, you know there's a guy, Arnold Palmer, you know 933 00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:43.800 that name, Yeah, yeah, And I spent a lot of 934 00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:46.480 time with him in his office and outside, and you know, 935 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:48.280 he had a lot of interesting things, as I did 936 00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:51.079 with Ben Hogan and smart enough. I was just trying 937 00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:54.679 to pull something. His idea was this. He believed that 938 00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:59.960 everything around him had energy, whether it was a bird 939 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:03.239 or whatever. Everything energy, And what he would do is 940 00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.159 stare at that and he would pull all the energy 941 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:09.159 from that thing and bring it inside and then he 942 00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.079 was able to withstand and that's where he got his energy. 943 00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:14.599 But he's understand that pressure, but he he believed there 944 00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:17.039 was energy all over the place that was him doing it. 945 00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:19.679 And Hogan the same way. You know, when you talk 946 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:21.760 to him, I go around with him. I said, what 947 00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:21.960 are you. 948 00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:22.519 Doing over there? 949 00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:24.760 He's in the rough? Oh no, I said, That's why 950 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:26.880 I go to because I'm always in the fairway. But 951 00:47:26.920 -->

00:47:28.639 if I you know, if I'm in the rough, I 952 00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:31.360 want to practice coming out of the rough. Totally different 953 00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:34.159 than with some other people. And he was dead serious 954 00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:35.280 about this energy thing. 955 00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:38.519 By the way, another legend made an interesting comment in 956 00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:41.679 the last week or so. Gary player Oh yeah, said 957 00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:49.599 Jordan Speed had the ability to be the best player ever, 958 00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:54.159 except he was doing something that you've talked about for 959 00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:56.400 a long time. And he said, that's what took it away. 960 00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:57.920 From That's why you can't play with your left hand 961 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:01.400 upside down. It's not in a position, and he suffers 962 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:03.239 from that and he doesn't know what to do and 963 00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:05.719 he chicken wings the quick going left. I mean, I've 964 00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:07.519 told you this, you know, sitting in the bar a 965 00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:11.239 hundred times. It's you know, if he didn't put everything 966 00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:13.039 in from twenty feet, he wouldn't want anything. 967 00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:18.599 He said, as far as practice, dedication and that at all. All, 968 00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:20.400 that's absolutely had it all. 969 00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:22.639 That's all. That's good. You got a couple other guys. 970 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:24.760 Tell me that guy's name, big tall guy plays on 971 00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:29.039 a on the on the on the Live Tour dust 972 00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:31.920 Dustin Johnson upside down with them, loop the loops. You 973 00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:33.400 know where you're going with that. You don't hear about 974 00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.039 him no more? Yeah, you can't play in those posi. 975 00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:39.440 You know, the game of golf and the positions for 976 00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:41.360 golf haven't changed. 977 00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:42.159 Now. 978 00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:44.840 What's happened though, that these players who play upside down, 979 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.039 they line up to the left. They had a big slice. 980 00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:50.840 Are you kidding me? A slice? 981 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:51.320 Yeah? 982 00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:53.559 The best players in the world go right to left. 983 00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:55.519 I got one more thought before we take a break, 984 00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:57.400 and we still have the time for on the on 985 00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.880 the other side. But Scottie Scheffler, and I'm not trying 986 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:02.400 to do this to get you upset, because I've got 987 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:05.079 a way to I got a way to make this 988 00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:08.239 make sense. Scotty Scheffler won three point six million dollars 989 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:10.719 over the weekend. His earnings this year are twenty point 990 00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:14.800 three million dollars. By the way, the best starting quarterback 991 00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:17.199 in the NFL is making about forty million, and he's 992 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:19.320 got a whole team around him. He doesn't do everything 993 00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:21.920 the best basketball players on some of these NBA teams, 994 00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:25.079 there's a eighth guy, third guy off the bench, making 995 00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:28.920 twice what Scotty Scheffler is making. Scotty Scheffler earns that money, 996 00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:31.719 that twenty point three million dollars this year. He earns 997 00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.559 it by himself with a team around him. But nobody 998 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:36.760 has hit a shot for him. 999 00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.960 But wait, but wait, he can make twenty million for 1000 00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.360 twenty years. He can make forty million for two years 1001 00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.280 or three years. Yeah, all he has to do is 1002 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:48.599 get hurt. It's over. Oh sure, yeah, So, I mean 1003 00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:50.440 that's a lot of money. You'd like to be a 1004 00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.719 caddy out there, and caddies are those can't make any money. 1005 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.280 He's made over ninety million since he started playing. 1006 00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:57.719 That's pretty good, pretty good. No money today, I mean. 1007 00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:00.599 It's all relative is nothing. 1008 00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:03.719 And after you get them, after you get that much money, 1009 00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:04.280 what do you what. 1010 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:05.079 Are you going to do? 1011 00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:08.360 He still has found a way to stay competitive. So 1012 00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:12.320 obviously with him, it's not just about the money, because 1013 00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:14.039 he's still winning any needed. 1014 00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.920 He's twenty seven years old, right, twenty eight, Yeah, he's 1015 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:19.840 twenty eight years old. Just think about it. Yeah, thirty 1016 00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.760 eight doing all right, forty eight for twenty years making 1017 00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:23.639 that kind of money. 1018 00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:26.639 Come there you go. 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and getting the visit with Steve 1091 00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:10.480 and Gary on a regular basis and being out here 1092 00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:12.880 and talking about the tournament as we did, you know, 1093 00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:16.000 for the first bunch of shows before the MFAM Championship 1094 00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:18.960 was here. I look at the calendar and see that 1095 00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:20.760 it's on the August eighteenth, So there's a lot of 1096 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:23.960 golf left. No, it's our final show of the year, 1097 00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:27.199 but it has already been a tremendous year here Dennis 1098 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:30.679 Dizziani at TPC, not only just for the members, but 1099 00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:32.960 also with the tournament and so many other great things 1100 00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:33.599 that are happening. 1101 00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:36.000 Well, the big item was for the member, and that 1102 00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:38.039 was I was you know, we were very much interested 1103 00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:41.400 in the tournament, very much interested in Children's Hospital and 1104 00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:44.840 all those times. But it was the member who really 1105 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:48.360 tripped my trigger to go ahead to continue to talking 1106 00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:53.559 about what happens after twenty seven. You know that, you 1107 00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:57.000 know our remember it, liked it, and they enjoyed it, 1108 00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:59.320 and all good things and good things came from it. 1109 00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.519 So looking forward to the next six years or so 1110 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:05.679 far six years, especially if that what's his name again, 1111 00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:11.199 if he comes to one that one, can. 1112 00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:13.719 You imagine what have be like if he came here. 1113 00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:18.199 Well, I know that fam is making it, making plans 1114 00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:22.079 now for him to commit. They're also making plans if 1115 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:27.239 he commits and doesn't show, and it's it's real what's 1116 00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:29.960 going on, And hopefully they'll be there, and I'm sure 1117 00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:32.400 Steve will have a lot to do with it. He's 1118 00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:35.760 a good friend. Steve supported him when he had all 1119 00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:39.440 the trouble, so I know that he confides and Stevie 1120 00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:41.760 talks him about a lot of stuff, So you know 1121 00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:43.719 it'd be nice to have him here, but you'd probably 1122 00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:45.199 need a helicopter to get in here. 1123 00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:49.199 Maybe And quickly, Mike, I'll put together the package for Gary, 1124 00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:51.519 you and I to we'll go three for a million 1125 00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:53.199 bucks for next year to do the show. 1126 00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:55.679 Well, yeah, that's that's good, all three. 1127 00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:59.119 Why won't he a million? That just goes to show 1128 00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:00.599 you guys are cheap cheap? 1129 00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:05.400 Well, you know you know him better than you know me, 1130 00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:08.639 so if that's the way it is a big thanks 1131 00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:10.840 to Brad for doing all the work back at the 1132 00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:13.639 studio and for Dave mccannon coming out here every week 1133 00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:16.000 and getting this all set up. David, thank you for 1134 00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:19.840 the best and we appreciate what you do. Well, I 1135 00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:21.639 said that just on the year. Off the year I 1136 00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:24.480 say something different, Tis, I appreciate you. Thanks for having 1137 00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:28.360 us out and it's been a pleasure. 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