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frustrating. 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:58.399 It was a Friday night game, very frustrating. 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:03.839 And then the OSU fans, uh OSU CBJ fans, just a rough weekend, man. 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:05.680 Just a really rough weekend overall. 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:08.399 Especially if they're also Cleveland Browns fans. 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:15.600 Yeah, I uh uh some people don't have the have have the luck to be able to bear down right now. 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.319 Uh that was a terrible game, too, to be honest with you. 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:26.240 That was a that was like the blue jackets in football form, but they were able to escape with the win. 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:28.399 I don't know who watched Sunday night football. 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:30.079 Terrible game overall. 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.800 But they but they beared down. 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:35.360 The blue jackets are not bearing down right now, Andy. 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:40.879 No, and look, in that Dallas game, they definitely were bearing down because they went down a goal. 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:47.360 And it was let's talk about let's talk about the goal because that was a terrible turnover by Ivan Provorov. 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:49.920 I felt so bad for Talbot because of that. 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:56.480 That's the only mistake Provarov has made since he um since he got uh or since he's come back. 00:05:56.800 --> 00:06:09.120 I think he there were some I and uh I don't want to join that crowd that bashes Provorov because I I like to keep it uh like to be neutral, I like to be fair, but I don't think he was that good that game, Andy. 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:15.680 I think that overtime too, he they were rotating two defensemen, they were rotating Werensky and Provorov. 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:22.079 I I think Proverbs the fourth best option in a three on three, a three-on-three overtime as a defenseman. 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:28.160 I think Matechuk and Sieverson are better options, number one, and that that's even when Proverb's playing really well. 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:34.079 But Provrop was making some puck mistakes even in the overtime, to be honest. 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:38.959 But it it it it it it was no harm, no foul, because they did get out with the win. 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:48.639 But you you focus on the one mistake in that game defensively, it did lead to a goal and it was Proverb, but we can all we can move on, uh water under the bridge at that point. 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:54.000 Yeah, and Talbot had another outstanding performance in that game. 00:06:54.240 --> 00:07:06.800 Um and it feels like he's I dare I say he's even the starter right now for this team, because it's the like they didn't just beat no no offense to the Blackhawks, but they didn't just beat Chicago or anything. 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:14.720 Like they beat Colorado and Dallas, and he held the fort down in both of those games, and he's beaten some other pretty

good teams this season, too. 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:18.000 Um I don't mean to be pessimistic. 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:23.439 And and with the Colorado game, I feel like we our offense was doing so well. 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:28.079 Yeah, the he killed off the five on three, they only got one out of it that Colorado game. 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:31.360 But I think the offense was doing so well. 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:35.519 I don't think he needed to be like a stand stand on his head goalie that game. 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:45.199 The now going forward with Cam Talbot, I don't know how sustainable it is that you can rely on a 39-year-old goalie to be your starting goalie. 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:47.680 Uh we need Jack Greaves to find his game again. 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:53.360 We need uh in the I don't grass is green, water found in the ocean. 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:56.480 Undeniable that Greaves has to pick it up. 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:06.720 And I I'm concerned now because this is now like that Dallas game, that Dallas game a week ago uh was was concerning because of the second goal he let in. 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:11.680 Those two goals versus Buffalo, like it gets like I've said this so many times, man. 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:15.199 Like, you need a save at certain points in a game. 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:17.680 He came up with those saves last season. 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:24.720 The the Buffalo game is a huge example of where you need a save because you make a couple of you make at least one of those saves. 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:26.079 It's a different game, man. 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:28.720 I I I know the goal first goal wasn't really his fault. 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:30.560 It was the second, I can't remember the goals off the game. 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:32.799 It was the second and third, and like that were his fault. 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.120 And at that point, the team was just mentally this team is mentally weak, man. 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:38.159 Let's be honest here. 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:39.759 And that's that's unacceptable. 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:40.799 It is unacceptable. 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:42.159 The guys they invested in. 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:44.159 This is not a young team anymore. 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:45.759 It is unacceptable. 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:47.840 I a hundred percent agree with you. 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:59.759 Yeah, and now um, you know, they you know uh apart from from Greaves, there's another guy that I think we really need to talk about, Adam Fantilly. 00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:06.879 I'm sorry, I I think he's played pretty well defensively, I do, uh, and he's definitely growing in that regard. 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:09.440 But this is ridiculous. 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:12.879 He's on pace, I think, for 34 points. 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:15.919 Shout out Union and Blue, because they came out with that article. 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:25.679 Um 34 points for our number one center that we just paid

uh a lot of money over a lot of years. 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:28.960 Like, I I I don't know what else to say. 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:35.440 Like, he has to he has to start producing, um and it it's gotta start coming in bunches, right? 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.279 It can't be scoring every couple of games, no matter what. 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.600 Like, he he has to be contributing. 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:44.639 Well he put himself under this his own microscope here. 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:46.240 Uh it's gonna sound blunt, but he did. 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:49.200 He did this to himself, uh, inviting criticism. 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:57.039 I keep using that term, but he's done it the most because he dragged down the contract because he wanted paid what he thought he was worth, and now he's not playing up to that contract. 00:09:57.120 --> 00:10:02.080 Now, we didn't think he was gonna play up to 13 and a half, it's 13 and a half million, right? 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:03.759 Or is it 13.75? 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:05.360 Is it 13.75? 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:13.039 Well, we we always knew this was a contract he was gonna grow into, but he's not even sniffing the potential of that contract now, if you get what I'm saying. 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.000 He had 35 points on pace for 35 points. 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.559 Some of the puck decisions he's made, one of the goals was because of a turnover of his, right? 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:21.039 In the ball. 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:22.000 That was the second goal. 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:29.919 That was the second goal, and yeah, he probably should have made the save too, but that there's no save to be made if he doesn't turn the puck over. 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:36.559 He he's I I I said with Zach Worensky, he needs to stop start playing hero puck more because he's capable. 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:40.320 Adam Fantilly's trying to do it way too much, and it's getting old. 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:42.320 It is getting old, dude. 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:44.720 And I'm sure I know you agree with that. 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:51.679 It's just really frustrating because you look at guys in that draft, and Adam Fantille's probably my favorite player on the team. 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:54.399 So I'm not gonna, this is not me saying like I dislike him. 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.960 It's just extremely frustrating when you see everyone from that draft class pick one, Bedard. 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:02.080 He's Connor Bedardi's generational talent from that class. 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:03.759 Then you look at Leo Carlson. 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:13.759 I thought there was a comparable, like people in the offseason wrote off Fantilly against Carlson because and thought Carlson was that much better. 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.639 I defended Fantilly all offseason saying it's the gap is not that far off. 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.639 Well, how stupid do I look now because of Fantilly? 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:24.480 Carlson's tearing it up. 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:26.879 Fantilly's on pace for 35 points. 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:28.960 And it's frustrating. 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:29.679 Go ahead. 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:40.080 It's also worth mentioning that you can't really factor in Bedard here because, again, with all due respect, he's on an absolutely in a terrible situation in Chicago right now. 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:43.039 So he's still putting up crazy points, too. 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:45.200 He's still he's still producing Bedard is. 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:49.759 I think you I'm using it as a comparison just because they're in the same draft class. 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:52.159 They've always been compared because of that. 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:54.879 And I can't help but look at it from that perspective. 00:11:54.960 --> 00:12:00.799 And it's when when you look at it of a Carlson versus Fantilly situation, it's frustrating. 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.440 And when you look at the contract, it's extremely frustrating. 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:04.480 Can he pick it up? 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:05.360 Absolutely. 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:06.159 Will he? 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:11.840 Hopefully sooner rather than later, and I'm sure he will eventually, but you can't you have to pick it up now. 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:14.000 We cannot be dropping games right now. 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:15.919 You are the number one center now. 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:19.039 You have to be playing like the number one center. 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:30.399 And I I'm not sure I've seen this, but I could see some people making the uh I guess making the claim that bonus's like style of coaching is suppressing him. 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:34.000 But Charlie Coyle is like a point per game on this team. 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:35.840 Don't so don't give me that. 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:39.919 Um like it it it is what do you mean by that? 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:41.279 What do you mean by that? 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:44.960 What I I I want to make sure I understand like what do you mean by that? 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:55.679 What I mean is Coyle is able to produce What I mean is I don't think that um I don't think that bonus's coaching style, like it probably has something to do with it. 00:12:55.759 --> 00:13:07.200 I'm not expecting there to be like 10 90 point guys on this team, but at the same time, like Fantilly's skill set, what he does out there, uh what he's able to do. 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:15.120 He had 31 goals a couple years ago, um that he'll he's still able to produce, in my opinion. 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:21.120 And I see what he does when he has open shots on the power play, it goes in the netting, he misses the net. 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:26.240 Like it's it, I I'm watching scoring, he creates scoring chances, what you're saying. 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.799 He just they need to go in the back of the net. 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:30.399 They need to go in the back of the net.

00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:32.559 And we saw this last year with him, too. 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:37.519 I do you do you remember the Boston game straight out of the Olympic break? 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:44.559 Right after he had like thir 20 scoring chances, none of them went in until the very end. 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:50.080 I'm just using that as an example because he gets so many chances, and a lot of them just don't go in. 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:59.279 And I I I have always used the like reference of imagine if I I don't I don't even know a good percentage comparison to use. 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:06.559 Let's say 30, 40 percent of his prime scoring chances went in rather than let's say it's at 10% right now. 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:08.720 That's and like last year. 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:13.600 Like I don't know how I can't remember how many goals he finished with last year, and he could have had a lot more. 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:15.440 It's you get where I'm going with this, though. 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:21.279 He he they need to start going in and he needs to find a way to to get them in the net. 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:24.799 Because he's creating them, but he's not finishing them. 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:31.840 Yeah, and I mean they uh they recalled Steven Lawrence and Jack Williams. 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:42.879 Well, I mean, I thought Jack Williams should have been on this roster an opening night, but there was reasons for it for him not being on the on the team, and we're not gonna get into that, but it was salary stuff. 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:58.399 Yeah, and and another thing too, um guys, like last week uh there was some rumors, uh, or Aaron Portsline tweeted that like uh the Blue Jack is sending Emil Andre or putting Emile Andre and who's the other one? 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.039 Um Adanton Hynan on waivers. 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:06.000 Um like it it may uh there's something else may have been in the works. 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:21.360 Well, they recalled Lorenz and and Williams, so I feel like that hype has died down a bit for the time being, but I still think that that's something to keep an eye on because Aaron Portsai did mention in his Monday gathering that um that Don Waddell's still taking calls. 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:24.399 Vronkov is still he's his name's still out there. 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:27.120 The Jackets are open to trading another defenseman. 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:36.799 Um Sam, like before we talk about before we talk about the lineup, what do you think that this team needs? 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:42.480 If if Waddell is trading for help right now, what do you think the this team needs? 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:49.759 What like what play like what does this team need as a whole, or what do they need in a trade return for Voronkov or anyone? 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:54.080 I I would say you know what, actually, it's it's a bit of both. 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:55.039 It's a bit of both. 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:58.000 So they need more offense, Andy. 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:00.559 They need a hell of a lot more offense. 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:04.000 They you know, Rick Bonus is a defensive first team. 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:05.840 I'm gonna I'm gonna go into a whole spiel here. 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:11.200 And you know, I I know I said I didn't want to use this reference, but we talked about it earlier, Andy. 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:13.360 And I'm gonna bring up some of those points. 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:17.679 They they need to score more, they need a goal scorer for a trade. 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:18.159 For trade. 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:19.679 I'm kind of all over the place right now. 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:27.360 But if they are getting trading Varonkov or trading anyone, they need a pure goal scorer, a guy that can go out there and just say, score the goals. 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:31.039 Don't you don't need to play defense, and that's not gonna work with Rick Bonus, unfortunately. 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:33.360 But they need someone that can just score the goals. 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.879 Rick bonus coaches a defensive first team, right? 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:38.960 It's always defensive first games. 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:45.279 If Rick Bonus could have the choice of how each scoreboard would look, it'd be 1-0 Columbus every game. 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:47.919 That's a part that is a perfect Rick Bonus game. 00:16:48.000 --> 00:17:02.240 And the way the games, he wants the the way his coach games look when things are going his way are 2-1 win, one-zero win, three-two win, low-scoring game where the other team's not getting a lot of offensive chances because our defense is smothering them. 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.359 And, you know, our defense has looked good at times. 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:10.000 In the Dallas game, aside from that one screw up, they look really good. 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:14.319 The Carolina game for a lot of it, or for that third period, looked really good. 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:17.359 Colorado, most of the game, they looked really good, man. 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:23.039 So that defense can be there, but what's like you got to score goals. 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:24.559 You have to transition better. 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:28.400 They have the the the are you talking about like from zone to zone? 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:29.039 Absolutely. 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:29.920 Yeah, absolutely. 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.000 The end zone transitions need to be better. 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:40.319 And and also, Sam, as something else that you mentioned, the dump and chase, yeah, they're not even they're not that's how they want to play, and they're not even doing it right now. 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:45.440 So so this team is built to be like Don Waddell. 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:49.359 You you brought this up earlier, and I'm gonna steal it from you. 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:54.240 Don Waddell built a team in Carolina that

smothers you in the four-check. 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:59.039 How a four check can start, not always, but is the dump and chase. 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:02.160 Not dump and trap. 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:05.759 They're they're like they dump the pucks so much. 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:09.759 And I am all for dumping and chasing, dump and chase. 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:14.960 If they chase people who a lot of people hate dump and chase hockey because it's boring. 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:19.680 Yeah, but if you do it right, it's damn effective, especially with the way this roster's built. 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:27.119 I'm tired of talking about, oh, I saw, like we talked about it all in the early episodes of the Blue Coat Room of what they're trying to build, what they're trying to build. 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:31.599 Well, they're not playing the way that works to the strengths of what they're trying to build. 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:38.880 They can be a smothering four-check team, but the only guy that forchecks correctly is Matthew Olivier. 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:41.519 Watch the way he goes in the zone. 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:43.119 He chases after that puck. 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:46.799 He says it's my puck, or this guy's getting put through the glass. 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:48.799 He he forechecks the right way. 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:50.720 I don't know why nobody else does it. 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:53.200 They just dump in neutral zone trap. 00:18:53.279 --> 00:19:01.519 They they dump the puck and then they play like the 2000 New Jersey Devils as if they have Scott Stevens at the blue line ready to nuke a guy. 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:03.680 Like it, it makes no sense. 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.559 Just you got guys that can forcheck. 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:09.839 Matthew Nines, uh, I I want to I've been asking for it. 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:13.119 Why is he and he's not doing it? 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:17.599 He's not for checking, he's not, he's barely hitting. 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:20.160 You brought up the James Miller stat the other day. 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:21.680 He's not, he's not. 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:29.039 None of these guys are playing up to expectation and chasing in the defensive zone or offensive zone. 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:31.359 You like, am I am I wrong? 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:33.680 Am I am I a loose canon right now? 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:35.279 Probably, but am I wrong? 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:36.799 You're you're not wrong, no. 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:47.599 It's frustrating as hell, man, because uh I'm gonna use hockey terminology and I can try to explain it to the my best of my ability to for to who don't know the terminology. 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:49.119 Uh is it a 2-1-2? 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:51.039 It's a 2-1-2, right? 00:19:51.279 --> 00:20:00.720 It's a the they're they're running a 1-3-1 essentially, which is one guy chases and then the other two forwards are are in their own zone. 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:14.640

But they need to be running a 2-1-2 where two guys are chasing and then one guy's hanging out in the high slot ready to either take away the pass or scoop up the puck and try to score after you get the puck. 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:17.920 You have a team built for a 2-1-2-4-check. 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:20.000 Why are we being passive? 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:24.480 And if you're gonna dump the puck, go after it or get off the ice. 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:29.359 Did I have another point? 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:32.400 I can't even remember because I just went down a whole rabbit hole. 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:39.119 My original question, and you answered part of it, but my what do they need in the in a trade? 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:42.160 Because again, a guy that can go score goals. 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:45.440 Who is our do we have a pure goal scorer on the team right now? 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:47.759 Just a guy that has goal scoring talent. 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:55.279 I'm not gonna say Kent Johnson is because Kent Johnson is a pure playmaker who isn't always gonna find the back of the net. 00:20:55.359 --> 00:21:00.319 He's hot right now, and you know, he's a pass first player, usually. 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.920 But the way things are going, he's scoring a lot, so he's shooting it. 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:06.240 But that's not always gonna be the case. 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:08.400 I they need a goal scorer. 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:23.759 Maybe maybe Fantilly, but it like you look at these teams here, like Dallas has Ranton and Robertson, Colorado's got McKinnon, Nietzsche's, Lekkenen, guys that that frequently put up put up numbers. 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:28.319 Um basically, uh even like Calgary, they've got Matt Coronado. 00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:30.880 Like they've got they've got shooters. 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:36.240 This team doesn't have a shooter, and I I don't know if they're gonna go out and get one. 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:43.519 Um Pittsburgh said they're not um they're they're open to trading anyone not named Crosby or Kindle. 00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:47.440 There's a guy um locked up to a long term contract, Don Widelly. 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:49.200 He's not on a long term contract. 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:50.319 Is it six year? 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:52.799 Is it a six year deal for him or is it four year? 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:54.240 Are you talking about Chinikov? 00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:54.799 Yeah. 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:56.000 It's a three year deal. 00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:56.880 Is it three years? 00:21:57.039 --> 00:21:57.680 Well, go get him. 00:21:57.920 --> 00:21:58.480 No, I'm kidding. 00:21:58.559 --> 00:21:59.200 That won't happen. 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:04.240 I'm just being Just being stupid, but you know, that we could really use a guy like that right now. 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:07.359 I know he's had a slow start, but he's a pure goal scorer. 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:08.240 We need it. 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:15.839 We like uh you know, the there was a guy, he's out long term right now, but Jared McCann in the offseason could have used a guy like that. 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:18.480 There's other guys, other pure goal scorers. 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:23.119 I'm not asking for a Rocket Richard goal scorer that's gonna get 40 goals. 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:30.799 I'm asking for a guy or wanting a guy and needing a guy who no main attribute is goal score. 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:32.400 There's guys like that. 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:35.680 There's guys like that that are that are not a premium price. 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:40.799 Even even in Carolina, like Wadell had Svechnikov. 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:44.160 Um, and and there were guys that that scored a lot of goals. 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:50.400 But anyways, the the play, I'm not gonna okay, I'm gonna say one more thing about this, and we can we can move on. 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:59.599 But the the a guy that an example I have of someone that's a goal scorer, that that he scores the goals, doesn't really do much else. 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:09.039 And I'm not saying we should get him because I I've heard he apparently he was a locker room cancer, and a lot of like guys do not like him apparently. 00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:10.400 It's Jacques Roslovic. 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:15.440 Jack Roslovic score both scores goals, he scores goals, dude. 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:17.680 Yeah, he does, he scores goals. 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:20.640 What is what is he then? 00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:22.400 He's not a pure goal scorer. 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:24.400 What okay, what is he then? 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:28.160 What is Jack Ros Roslovic's archetype? 00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:32.079 He's like a middle six winger. 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:33.920 He scores goals. 00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:37.519 He is a system plug-in goal scorer. 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:39.200 Okay, all right, sure. 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:40.640 Whatever, man. 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:46.000 If if if you're calling hit if you're still Roslovik on this team. 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:49.839 No, I did not say I want Roslovik because it we've done it before. 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:50.799 Why try it again? 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:52.480 I'm not saying style of play. 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:57.039 I'm saying get a guy that he has a score, goal scoring touch. 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:02.799 Um so that's the kind of guys on this team also have goal scoring touches, and they're not put Nechushkin does. 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.720 There's another guy that's out indefinitely right now that also does. 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:07.920 Oh yeah. 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:08.720 Does he? 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.680 Yeah, he hasn't scored in months. 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:14.960 But he has a a score, a goal scoring touch. 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:18.720 Like the all these players on this team have scored a lot of goals before. 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:26.799 What is it then? 00:24:27.200 -->

00:24:28.799 Oh, his defensive game. 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:30.319 His defensive game. 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.440 His defense- dude, he's one of the better defensive metrics. 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:39.119 He's a good defensive forward, but for me, I I don't know. 00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:41.680 I I I've I've seen him ripping it a couple of times. 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:44.160 Like, okay, anyways, we're getting off point. 00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:50.079 Um, Sam, so you look at the situation with Varon Cog. 00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:52.240 He's gonna be on the second line tomorrow. 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:53.680 Good opportunity. 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:56.400 If the Blue Jackets, it is a great opportunity. 00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:59.039 It's a great opportunity regardless of what they want to do with him. 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:06.000 If the plan is still trade him, then okay, you're you're only helping his value, in my opinion, there, because you're giving him the opportunity. 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:13.440 Um if it's if it's the case of they want to see if they can get him going again because they don't want to trade him, that's good too. 00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:22.640 Um and so Sam, if they want to trade him, if that's still the plan, then what is a futures deal? 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:26.640 Because that seems to be the more likely, likely situation here. 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:28.160 What do you think? 00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:29.119 I don't know. 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:31.039 Are you saying what would it look like? 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:41.359 I I personally heard I spoke to somebody last week, and this is a person that I I I do trust. 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:56.559 Um but you know, don't don't take any of this as definitive, as definitive stuff, but this this person has been been right in the past, and I was having a nice conversation with him. 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:05.200 Um and he said that that he gets a sense that prices are high right now, uh, and and Varon Kov is probably among those candidates. 00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:09.599 Um what what what are the the Jackets asking for, right? 00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:30.319 Because I I feel like, and this is all this is such a grass is green statement, but um like I feel like if it was something like, oh, you know, they're out they're looking for a second or like a second and a third or something like that, the deal probably would already be done because Ronkov, he's he's again 47 points two years ago, 23 goals. 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:34.079 That doesn't just happen um every day. 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:43.519 So and he's also like you said, Sam, uh like the way he's built is he's a very, very uh important player when used properly. 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:48.720 But I again this is just my opinion. 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.839 So I'm I'm uh I'm I'm making sure that I'm clear here. 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:52.880 This is my opinion. 00:26:53.119 --> 00:27:06.240 If I'm Don Waddell, I'm looking for or I'm starting with asking for a pretty hefty offer for him, like maybe a first-round pick, especially if there are teams like Edmonton. 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:12.000 Um if there's teams like Edmonton or Colorado looking for for him, because you have to think. 00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:31.359 I this happened years ago, years ago, but this like uh the New York Rangers used to have a defenseman named Nils Loving, and he was struggling there, and Dallas traded their their first, or maybe it was a conditional first for him, uh, like a young player that needed a change of scenery, they traded a first for him. 00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:45.279 I could see that happening here where a team that is poised to make a run looks at Foronkov and says, This guy can get us those uh like timely goals in like game six in the playoffs. 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.720 A team won't give that first round pick up until March, though. 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:51.359 Like that's if you want to hold out for that. 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:57.119 I don't think he's I don't think a team's gonna give up a first round pick right now in November 9th. 00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:58.079 Is that the day today? 00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:02.720 On November 9th, November Well, Minnesota did for Eurychek two years ago. 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:04.240 It's a lot different, though. 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:09.440 That was a guy who was was the the sky was the limit. 00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:11.839 It's a lot different of a scenario. 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:12.880 You know what? 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:22.960 Maybe I am just talking out of out of my ass, but uh I think I mean if Melino got a first round pick, so it's possible, it's just not right now. 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:29.119 I think that's more if you're wanting a first round pick, that probably wouldn't be a return you see. 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:40.160 If it does happen, it would be close or at the deadline, and that's a team that knows what they're looking at the for the month of March and April and knows what they need. 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:41.359 You get what I'm saying? 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:50.559 Yeah, I still think that the best thing they can do here is trade him, like include him in a package to get something like they need a top six forward. 00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.200 Garland's injured right now, in case you guys didn't know. 00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:54.079 No, he's not. 00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:55.200 No, he's not. 00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:57.039 It's a conspiracy. 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:00.400 Okay, no, please don't say it's it's a conspiracy. 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:01.839 He's not gonna hear this. 00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:04.799 I don't the Aaron Rodgers dark room. 00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:06.480 I don't want to hear this. 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:08.480 I don't want to not none of this. 00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:10.319 He's going on a religious retreat. 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:12.240 No, um, no, not religious. 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:21.680 It's it's a it's a

psychedelic spiritual retreat where he's gonna go in a in a dark room for five days and come back a new man. 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:24.960 You you know that um tangent tangent Mr. 00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:26.960 Garrison went on in South Park? 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.359 Okay, that's where he went missing in the woods. 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:30.160 That's Garland. 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:31.920 He's gonna come back better. 00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:32.480 Okay. 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:33.839 Anyways, Garlin. 00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:35.279 Give me the tinfoil hat. 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:37.440 Garland's injured right now. 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:43.119 And um, even with him in the lineup, there's a massive hole in the top six. 00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:45.119 Vronkov could potentially fill it. 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:46.559 Dude, he hasn't done so yet. 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:48.240 He hasn't done so yet, but he could. 00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:48.720 He could. 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:54.240 Anyways, with with a guy like Fantilly centering him, because it's Nechushkin, Fantilly, and Vronkov. 00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:57.440 That man, that's it Nechushkin? 00:29:58.400 --> 00:29:59.200 Yeah, it is, it is. 00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:03.279 And also, Sam, Sean Monahan, his game is elevated. 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:04.240 Yeah, absolutely. 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:12.720 I'm glad you brought that up because I know I've been hard on him, and I guess you can call him my whipping boy thus far in a lot of areas as of lately. 00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:19.680 But you know, that goal, and I brought it up to you after it happened, but I don't know why he doesn't do that more often. 00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.480 He likes playing the shield the puck game. 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:32.640 That that that that type of game is is suited behind the net in Gretzky's office, and that's exactly where he was to set up Kent Johnson for that goal. 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.720 So I just wish I I don't know why he's not behind the net more. 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:38.960 And that that was a great play by him. 00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:41.599 He he did all the work and Kent Johnson finished it. 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:50.160 Yeah, and he continues to be a warrior out there, blocked a shot, and you know, he left the game, but he he's gonna be playing against Florida tonight. 00:30:50.640 --> 00:31:00.559 Even even when his offensive game's not there, his you can still rely on him on a defensive zone face-off and to to give you a good chance to win it. 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.400 And you can still rely on him to play, pick up the right guy. 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.039 He doesn't make many defensive mistakes. 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:12.160 I mean, he was he was like the only guy virtually that was winning face-offs in that Dallas game, man. 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:13.759 We're getting crushed in the dot. 00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.559 I think he was the only guy that could win a draw that whole game. 00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:18.240 Yeah, at least it felt like it. 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.559 The last player I do want to talk about is Kent Johnson, once again, man. 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:27.359 What what an inc just what an incredible player over a point per game now. 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.880 16 points in uh in 15 games. 00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.279 Um look at that. 00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:38.079 Like, I think he's one of the best uh like shootout players of all time at this point. 00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.359 Like he's got a new move almost every time. 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:42.720 It's a top three. 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:44.240 He's top three. 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:47.039 He's top top three of all time. 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:49.759 Given the um that's incredible. 00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:51.359 Yeah, just unbelievable. 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:55.440 Like he he uh Steve Mears said it, he's automatic in the shootout. 00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:58.000 Um like he has three moves now. 00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:04.960 That move that I think Mason McTavish, maybe I guess like he used it a year ago or something like that. 00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.200 Where like he I don't even know how to describe it. 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.119 How would you even describe his shootout goal? 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.319 Like he just went like went through Otinger. 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.000 He does he or not Ottinger, sorry, DeSmith. 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.160 He does the same method of what he's doing every time. 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.079 It's just a three-read play. 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:28.480 He comes in wide and does like a Mohawk skate move, and then he it's a three-read play. 00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:49.759 He could either shoot it right there, or he can drag it, and on the drag, the option is either sneak it five-hole, which seems to be his favorite option this year, and if the five-hole is closed up, he whip pulls it really far to the backhand and and and shoot uh takes it, roofs it, or sometimes he'll even take it back and put it back on the forehand. 00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.559 It's it's pretty much the same move every time. 00:32:52.640 --> 00:33:05.680 It's just he makes the goalie that he he has the goal, the goalie has to make a choice of all right, am I gonna stuff my five hole, squeeze my five hole, and then leave the far the the the far side or the short side, the short side open? 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:06.880 You get what I'm saying, though. 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:18.160 I I I wish I could like I could pull it up on a whiteboard back there and like show my laser pointer, but I can't, so you're just gonna have to envision it with my silky, buttery voice. 00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:19.119 Yeah. 00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:26.319 Um and it's it's a dude, it's it's it's it's unstoppable. 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:27.200 It's unstoppable. 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.160 They need they needed this more than ever from him. 00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:33.599 Um,

he's been he's been their best player, I think, this season. 00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:35.599 Warinski, Warinski. 00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:42.000 I mean, okay, look, that even Warinsky's goal versus Dallas, that was a fantastic shot. 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.480 Um, but that was all Johnson. 00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.119 Like, okay, nice comes into the zone, patience. 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.720 Then Johnson is surgical with that pass to Warinski. 00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:52.160 He sees the play, right? 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:56.400 You know who he okay, he's not on his level yet, so let me just clarify that. 00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:59.519 But he really reminds me of Panarin, man. 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:00.559 His patience. 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:01.920 It's his patience. 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:14.639 Yeah, like they they're both like they're very similar, pure purely because like neither of them are like the neither of them are have like blistering speed, but their patience is what makes their game. 00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:21.199 They don't rush to make plays, they they see things like five seconds before they even happen. 00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:28.559 I and I think he's more like uh I think Panarin was always so precise with his decision making. 00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:34.719 Kent Johnson's not as precise, so that's why I look at Kent Johnson as more of a it's growing. 00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:41.920 That's why yeah, it's growing, and that's why I I don't see the resemblance yet, but I I see more of a young Duchenne. 00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:46.559 I don't remember someone on Twitter said that, and I've not been able to unsee it since. 00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:48.000 I see more of a younger Duchenne. 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.039 One of his like defining traits was his speed. 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.679 So um anyways. 00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:57.440 Ken Johnson's fat. 00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:05.599 Like, I mean he's probably he's not slow, but he's I I don't think he he's no like uh like Matthew Barzell. 00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:10.239 He's no Liam Footy, no Miles Wood, he's no Miles Wood. 00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:14.480 Um but yeah, uh it's it's it's amazing to see. 00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:26.159 But anyways, guys, uh looking at the the week ahead, got Florida, um, Florida tonight, when you're listening to this, Tampa Thursday, and who is it? 00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.320 Is it uh who is it? 00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.719 Is it uh Philly, Philly on Saturday, right? 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:31.440 Yeah. 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:38.159 Um so again, I mean Tampa, that situation with Kucharoff, it doesn't seem to have affected them much. 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:39.840 They're still a really good team. 00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.239 Um uh and Kucharoff is still playing at the top of his game. 00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:46.639 Florida, I mean, we already played them this year. 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:47.440 We know what they bring. 00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:51.920 Florida's I think

I think Florida's lost three of their last four. 00:35:53.039 --> 00:36:03.360 I think they're they're I mean, I think we've done well against teams that have been pissed off this season because Florida did just they had uh they had a rough go. 00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:06.719 I think they even had a players-only meeting after their last game. 00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.599 Um, but we've played well against teams that have been struggling. 00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:14.639 Like I remember the Rangers got blown out, and then Vegas got blown out, and we beat both of them. 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:21.599 So the next the next five are I think it's very possible you could take four of the next five. 00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:26.320 If you can play Florida well, I'm gonna I'm just gonna go of the next five. 00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:29.039 Uh if you can play Florida well, that's that's one win. 00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.079 Tampa, I think that's gonna be our hardest game of our next five. 00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.639 Philly, you already proved you can beat them once. 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:40.559 And you know, if you don't let off the gas pedal, you could probably handle them swiftly. 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:41.920 And you got the islanders. 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:47.440 Uh they don't match up against the for some for whatever reason, they haven't been able to beat the number for some reason. 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:48.239 Yeah, I don't get it. 00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:49.519 The freaking Islanders. 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:54.239 They're not they're they're playing similar to us right now in the standings, and then Chicago. 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:55.679 I mean, what else can you say about that? 00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.199 Dumpster over there. 00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.280 Listen, I am not putting uh I no game is a guarantee in this game. 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:04.880 No game is a guarantee, but they lost to Chicago, honestly. 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:09.840 This team, they they could beat Florida 5-0, and then the next game lose to Chicago. 00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.400 Like that's Chicago's number, though. 00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:14.480 They have Chicago's number, though. 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:22.960 Yeah, but anyways, um, you know, Florida, like we saw what happened last game, and I think Talbot's gonna start tomorrow. 00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.760 Florida got him moving last time, and they they were able to exploit him. 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:33.840 Um Florida plays, I think they the way they play is the way the Jackets want to play. 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.880 Um, like big, tough, nasty. 00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:38.400 I want to see some of that. 00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:40.159 I want to see toughness. 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:47.760 I want to see Olivier scrap when it's necessary, not when it's unnecessary. 00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:56.320 And and the chat like and the jackets are up 3-0, and then Olivier scraps, and then uh Florida comes back and wins 4-3. 00:37:56.559 -->

00:38:02.639 I don't want to see that, but I think against a team like Florida, you gotta you gotta get on them early. 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.199 Um and you gotta jump them, and you gotta make them nervous. 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:11.360 Um because once they get you, they get you. 00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:17.199 And it's very difficult to to I remember like two years ago uh when they were in the playoffs. 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:20.239 Uh, you know, if anybody watches 2BC production. 00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.199 Oh hell yeah, Johnny Superb, baby. 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:24.559 He had a theory. 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:27.039 If Florida scores first, it's over. 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:37.519 So because of the way they'll play you afterwards, just uh even more suffocating than Carolina, arguably, when they're on the You know he called the Kucharov situation? 00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:38.480 Yeah, he did. 00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:38.880 Yeah. 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:40.000 How's it going, boys? 00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:41.679 Johnny Superb man here. 00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:43.360 God, man. 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.000 I can we just make this a 2BC podcast now. 00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:47.119 Get him as the next guest. 00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:48.400 Yeah, invite him, invite him. 00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:50.639 But yeah, he he won't show his face. 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:52.400 That's okay. 00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:54.480 We could have like we could have audio only. 00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:55.840 Audio only episode. 00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:57.840 Oh my god, dude, I love him. 00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:02.639 But anyways, um and then yeah, like you said, Sam with Philly. 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:05.599 That's uh sorry if you hear my dog barking. 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:17.840 But um yeah, if I mean if if you look at if you look at how how the Jackets played Philly last time, um, like you said, it they they can't underestimate any of these teams, really. 00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:22.000 Uh, and you have to be getting points against the Eastern Conference teams. 00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:26.239 Um so Sam uh goal predictions? 00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:31.199 Okay Florida gonna keep it simple, Ken Johnson. 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:33.519 Yeah, the first and last time we played him. 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:35.599 Okay. 00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:44.079 Um I'm I'm trying to think of a player that we have that has Florida's number. 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:51.440 Um I mean he scored a hat trick on them like what seven years ago? 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:52.880 Zach Warinski, I guess. 00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:57.920 Yeah, and Bob's and Bob's return game, mind you, on New Year's Eve. 00:39:58.320 --> 00:39:59.599 Yeah, that was insane. 00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:01.760 I was in Alberta at that time. 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:03.679 I remember that game vividly. 00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:15.679 Um and then in the Tampa game, I'm gonna go for um You know what? 00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.239 I'm gonna go Steven Lawrence. 00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:18.960 Okay. 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:21.679 I'm gonna go. 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:27.119 I'm gonna go Sean Monaghan. 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:29.679 I'm gonna give Sean Onahan a shot. 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:31.360 I'm trying to name some new names. 00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:37.840 And Philly, I'm gonna go Charlie Coyle. 00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:41.440 Trying to do some new names. 00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:42.639 Philly. 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:51.280 I'm trying to think like I'm trying to go for some new names to I can go Cole Sillinger versus Philly. 00:40:51.840 --> 00:41:01.039 Andy, should I give you mine for the week after since I won't I I'm not gonna be in next week's episodes are gonna be a little different. 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:03.920 Uh Andy's gonna come up with a plan for that. 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:05.599 I'm gonna be out of town. 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.920 I'm gonna be funny enough in Florida, then a cruise ship, then back in Florida for a little bit. 00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:14.719 And then I'll be back uh the week, I guess. 00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.280 Uh the week of the 23rd is when I'll be back. 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:22.239 So yeah, and we'll have one more episode before that, I think. 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.840 So uh we'll have the episode Wednesday, which you guys will listen to that on Thursday. 00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:30.159 If anything, Sam, you could just you could just do the your predictions then, honestly. 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:31.760 Or you could I could send them in. 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:32.320 I could send them. 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.119 Or you could just do it on uh what's it called? 00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:36.400 Um send them to me. 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:37.760 Yeah, we'll figure it out. 00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:39.440 We'll figure it out. 00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:40.480 We'll figure it out. 00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:43.760 But watch, you're gonna get it right when you're on the cruise. 00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:51.760 So um but yeah, guys, I mean it's uh they're they're seven and eight right now. 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.360 Um it's still trying times with this team, man. 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:59.440 They like they gotta start, they gotta start picking it up consistently. 00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:05.280 Like it's it sucks to see because they play so well against these top, top teams. 00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:13.679 And I'm not saying Buffalo isn't the good team, but like at least show some fight, show some backbone in those games, push back. 00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:16.960 And I mean, it just didn't feel like it there. 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.800 And it like you said, Sam, this it needs to be a buy-in. 00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:21.840 We can only repeat. 00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.480 I literally was literally just getting ready to say that. 00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:26.480 I was literally just getting ready to say that. 00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:28.480 We need a buy, a roster buy-in. 00:42:28.800 -->

00:42:32.000 We uh 2016-2017. 00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.000 Look at that roster on paper. 00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.320 That roster, I think, won 50 games. 00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:41.039 That roster was not good enough to win 50 games and win set 16 in a row. 00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:44.880 They won that many games because they had a full roster buy-in. 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:51.360 20 uh 2020 2018-19. 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:59.039 They're not beating Tampa Bay with that roster, sweeping the 128 point or how many points they have, I don't remember. 00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:05.440 But the the the president's trophy, Tampa Bay Lightning team, without a roster buy-in from John Tortorella. 00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:13.599 The next year, they're not making the playoffs from beating uh Toronto in the bubble without a roster buy-in from John Tortorella's system. 00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:18.079 This roster needs to buy into Rick Bonus' system. 00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:20.800 They need every person to buy in. 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:25.840 Because if you have guys with half in, half out, it's not gonna work. 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:27.679 And I think that's what we're seeing right now. 00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:32.400 And I I I I'm getting sick of repeating myself with it, but they have to buy in. 00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:41.679 Rick bonus needs uh Rick Bonus can't squeeze everything out of this roster, get every ounce of juice out of this roster, if they're not gonna buy in. 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:51.840 Look, the the the way I'll put it, I'll put this is um in order for there to be actual change with this team, these three games this week, all three of them have to be wins. 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:53.519 That's bottom line. 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:59.360 Like if they if they want to show us something, okay, we can do this consistently, then three wins. 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:00.559 You can do it. 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:05.119 You played, you played, you've played really well against great teams so far this season. 00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:06.400 You can do it. 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:08.880 They are more than capable of it. 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.599 They can do it, but is if they don't win these three, are you like, what do you mean? 00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:19.199 But like what I mean is obviously they can still turn it around, even if they don't win all three. 00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:20.320 That's not what I'm saying. 00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:28.639 But if they want to show us that now that they're they're serious, then a good way to do it would be winning all three. 00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:29.280 Am I wrong? 00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:30.960 No, not absolutely not. 00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:31.519 Yeah. 00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.840 They can go from seven and eight to ten and eight by the end of the week if they do that. 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:37.760 And then they're in a much better position. 00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.079 Then a bit of the heat's off of them. 00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:42.320 Um, they have a little bit more breathing room. 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:43.920 Right now, things are still tense. 00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.880 Can I can I bring up some one last thing? 00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:47.599 Sure. 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:49.760 And it's Ohio State related. 00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.559 People are probably going to stop watching Ohio State. 00:44:53.119 --> 00:45:05.280 Not everyone, but this is a great opportunity for Columbus to not grow their fan base, but get to boost up those viewing rankings, boost up their attendance. 00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:15.599 If they can start winning games now, when people are not as engaged with Ohio State football, because uh Andy, I don't think I don't know if you've been watching, but back-to-back stinker weeks. 00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:22.559 That Oregon game uh the other the other day, one of the worst Buckeye games I've watched since like since I was in high school. 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:23.280 It was terrible. 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:25.760 When was the last time they lost two games in a row? 00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:26.719 I I've been in the game. 00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:27.599 Two in a row last year. 00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:34.079 Last year, because they lost Big Ten championship and then they lost uh in the playoffs. 00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.760 But the last time they lost back-to-back regular season games, it's been a while. 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:39.840 It's been I think 2011 or something. 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:54.000 But regardless, uh let's let's Columbus, it's a casual fan base, whether it's the Ohio State basketball team, football team, blue jacket like overall, people grasp towards a winner. 00:45:54.239 --> 00:46:05.679 Ohio State is not that winner right now, and if the blue jackets can can gain those that those that those fans' attention, it could do a lot of a lot of good for the organization. 00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:10.719 I I know I'm probably pulling at sticks, but you get what I'm trying to say. 00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:14.559 Yeah, this it's now put up or shut up for them. 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:18.320 I mean, it was at the beginning of the season, it's even more true right now. 00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:26.320 Um and you don't need to be an expert on hockey to know that that they they really gotta figure this out. 00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:30.159 Um and obviously there's gonna be games. 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:34.960 Uh this is dragging on, but obviously there there are gonna be games um that you lose. 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:36.719 You're not gonna win every single game. 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:40.079 There's gonna be those nights where you didn't get the bounces, I get it. 00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:42.960 But we're talking about the same issues. 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.320 Like with Greaves, you need a save from him. 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:49.519 Um, they need to respond better to adversity. 00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:56.639 Like when those those goals, okay, your goalie doesn't come up with those saves, push back, don't just give up on the game. 00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:58.320 It's like the same things that we're talking about. 00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:05.679 Second half of back to back, they look sluggish, they look uh, they don't look engaged, right? 00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:11.760 And before anyone says anything, every single team in this league has to deal with back to backs. 00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:16.719 So the blue jackets, they they were okay with them last season. 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.239 So they gotta they gotta turn this around. 00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:27.920 Need saves, better for a check, better zone transition, more scoring opportunities. 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.719 Did I say need saves already? 00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:32.239 And need saves. 00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:38.480 Need saves, did I I can't remember if I said I started with any and fantilly put the puck in the net, please. 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.960 I'm gonna leave it at the five I said just because that will work itself out. 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:43.519 Yeah. 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:45.280 Need more okay. 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.760 Well, that's it, guys. 00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:53.280 Um we'll be back at you hopefully with another episode on Thursday. 00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:57.599 Um hope you enjoyed this, and uh we'll see you next time.