התמלול המלא של Great Migration, Superior Biracials & The Drop feat. Glasses Malone & Problem | Bonus Episode

All right. 00:05:23 Speaker 6: Mandy is going to be like on The View. Mandy is really going to daytime television. It's going to happen like that. 00:05:30 Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. 00:05:30 Speaker 4: How long do you think that's going to last? She had to tone down her. 00:05:33 Speaker 1: Just know I ain't going to be Sonny or Megyn Kelly out in these streets, y'all. 00:05:36 Speaker 4: No, no. 00:05:37 Speaker 5: She ain't going to tone nothing down. 00:05:39 Speaker 2: No? 00:05:39 Speaker 5: No, it's not going to happen. 00:05:40 Speaker 1: Well, I got to work on dropping the N-bombs so much. That was tough for me in radio. 00:05:45 Speaker 4: Oh, my God. 00:05:46 Speaker 5: They're going to need you. 00:05:47 Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. 00:05:49 Speaker 1: The world is going to need me. Y'all hear that? However, I probably won't get much support from the West Coast. Threads, I'm going to tell you, Threads whooped my ass while I was out there last week. I went to Threads because I was out there for work, and I said, L.A. is my least favorite city, but I'm here. Can y'all tell me where to go eat or where to have a good time? And they told me the 401. They told me Skid Row. They pretty much called me everything out of my name besides a child of God. And I was just like, I don't understand why we can't just say the things that we don't like. 00:06:30 Speaker 4: You started it off crazy. 00:06:32 Speaker 1: Okay, but I didn't diss LA. I said it's my least favorite city. I have reasons. 00:06:37 Speaker 4: Nobody re-books no more, so what do you think they're going to interpret that? 00:06:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, the comprehension skills were terrible. 00:06:42 Speaker 4: Very low. 00:06:42 Speaker 6: I remember a certain thing when I was on Horrible Decision giving you guys great advice and your audience doing the same thing. 00:06:48 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:06:51 Speaker 1: First off, great advice, here's the thing too, great advice is subjective to opinions. So for me, I feel like For whatever reason, we're not allowed to dislike major cities without the major cities feeling offended. Like when I lived in New York, people from the South go to New York and they're like, yo, I don't like New York. Do you think I fucking took that personally? 00:07:12 Speaker 8: No. 00:07:12 Speaker 1: However, I also do know people that hate Atlanta that feel like they can't say they hate Atlanta because it's giving anti-black. 00:07:18 Speaker 4: But I think the wording could have been a little different. 00:07:20 Speaker 3: It could have been like, hey, I haven't had great experience in L.A., but I'm out here Can you guys give me some suggestions? 00:07:27 Speaker 1: So now you're telling me I can't rake cities. 00:07:29 Speaker 5: Better question. Why is Los Angeles your least favorite city? 00:07:32 Speaker 4: Oh, first off. 00:07:34 Speaker 2: Sure. 00:07:34 Speaker 5: And be honest. I'm sure. 00:07:35 Speaker 1: I already commuted six hours to be there. 00:07:38 Speaker 2: Right? 00:07:38 Speaker 5: Do it have something to do with a guy? 00:07:39 Speaker 2: Nah. 00:07:39 Speaker 1: Okay, cool. I got mad hoes in L.A. 00:07:42 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:07:42 Speaker 1: Like, I actually got Rasta on Rasta. I be bringing niggas back from the dead. Like, I know you was blocked, but I'm in your city. Like, L.A. is a city where, like, niggas forgive you. They're very forgivable out there. Man. 00:07:55 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:07:55 Speaker 5: See? 00:07:55 Speaker 1: So, yay. They're bums. 00:07:58 Speaker 2: What? What? 00:08:00 Speaker 1: Don't do bell bum. 00:08:01 Speaker 3: Maybe you haven't had the right experience or been with the right people to show you what real LA is like. 00:08:07 Speaker 1: Okay, so no, let's be very clear. I have friends from there. So I've, you know, I've been to. 00:08:11 Speaker 5: A lot of places. 00:08:11 Speaker 7: So you could have just said, hey, I'm in town. Can y'all show me where to go get something to eat at? She had to be like, nah, I don't fuck with y'all niggas. You know what's crazy? 00:08:18 Speaker 4: Because I'm here. If y'all got some good food, I come figure out how to. 00:08:22 Speaker 1: Hold on. In Trump's America, y'all want to limit my freedom of speech and how I speak? 00:08:27 Speaker 4: Oh, here we go. 00:08:28 Speaker 2: All right. All right. 00:08:29 Speaker 4: All right. Now we're going off the rails. Now we on channel seven. 00:08:35 Speaker 6: So now you have to rise to Trump's villainy. Oh, we're not doing that. 00:08:40 Speaker 1: I just believe that freedom of speech should exist. And I just want social media to get to a point where, hey, me saying my top five list shouldn't. hurt or offend or make you so angry that you have to tell me to jump off of the 401. 00:08:55 Speaker 4: Skid Row is crazy. 00:08:55 Speaker 1: No, like, what am I talking about? 00:08:57 Speaker 4: Go eat on the 401. 00:08:58 Speaker 1: It was a 400 number, okay? Got it, got it. 405 it is, not 401. 00:09:03 Speaker 2: 405. 00:09:04 Speaker 1: You think I know the whole... I don't even drive, I take Uber. How am I supposed to know? Now, I wanted to ask y'all... Because if I had to feel it, I want all of us to name our least favorite city in America. And why? Because also LeBron is getting slack right now. LeBron is now signed to the Sixers. And that nigga said, I don't feel safe living in Philly. I'm going to travel from New York every time we have a game. And clearly we talked about him a couple months ago with his take on Memphis, which people thought was anti-black. So let's go down the list, fellas. Y'all know my least favorite city in America. What's yours? 00:09:43 Speaker 4: And why? 00:09:44 Speaker 1: Klyce, let's start with you. 00:09:46 Speaker 5: What's the widest city in America? 00:09:50 Speaker 1: Have you been there, though? 00:09:51 Speaker 5: I'm saying, what's the widest city? 00:09:52 Speaker 1: You got to say one you've been to. 00:09:53 Speaker 4: Probably Salt

Lake City, Utah, I would say. Indiana somewhere. I'm not going to lie. 00:09:58 Speaker 1: The Mormons are different than just the regular. 00:10:00 Speaker 2: Whites. 00:10:00 Speaker 1: Salt Lake is a little different. 00:10:01 Speaker 4: You know what? 00:10:02 Speaker 6: I really don't like any cities. I really don't have a disdain for no cities. I kind of take in all the enjoyable things. I know it sounds crazy. There's no city I've been to that I was like, man, damn, I wish I was somewhere else. I kind of just tend to enjoy the place. Even Salt Lake, right? 00:10:18 Speaker 4: Less barbecues. 00:10:20 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. 00:10:21 Speaker 5: You go there, like, you be like, man, and, you know, soft flats. 00:10:26 Speaker 6: I kind of find the joy in everything, so I'm probably the worst person to have this conversation with. 00:10:30 Speaker 1: What about you, Pablo? 00:10:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love everywhere I go. Oh, fuck no. But I'm saying, let me tell you the difference. Like, I'm from one of the most hated fucking states in the country, though. 00:10:41 Speaker 1: Which is what? 00:10:42 Speaker 2: California, the one you just said. 00:10:43 Speaker 1: It's not the most hated state. 00:10:44 Speaker 2: It totally is. Let me tell you why it's the most hated. California's blue. Let me tell you why it's the most hated. It's the only place where everybody come move there, live there for 10 years and talk shit about it the. 00:10:54 Speaker 5: Whole fucking two years they're here. 00:10:55 Speaker 2: But they never leave the motherfuckers. Like, well, go home. So I already know that I'm not going to bring that energy to nobody else's spot. I'm only going there to enjoy the culture. If I'm in Wisconsin, I'm going to enjoy what they have to offer. If I'm in fucking Texas, I'm going to do what they do. I'm not going there to be like, hmm, this shit ain't like my city. 00:11:12 Speaker 4: I want to go home. 00:11:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, see, I didn't do that. First off, the energy. I just said my least favorite scene. 00:11:18 Speaker 2: I never said you said anything. 00:11:19 Speaker 3: See, now I never said you said a word. 00:11:26 Speaker 1: I just hate the like, huh. 00:11:27 Speaker 2: Just saying. 00:11:29 Speaker 4: Slide that motherfucker off. I'm good. 00:11:31 Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good in America, man. 00:11:33 Speaker 4: It's all love. Okay. 00:11:34 Speaker 2: But I love my city the best. 00:11:36 Speaker 7: Your partners from New Orleans could have learned something from these two brothers right here. 00:11:40 Speaker 4: Wow, don't do that. 00:11:42 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. 00:11:43 Speaker 7: She had some partners from New Orleans that was down here, been down here forever, went to college down here, was doing that shit, was on some Talking Real Crazy. 00:11:49 Speaker 4: About Atlanta. It's like, well, it's. 00:11:51 Speaker 1: Just very easy to move. 00:11:52 Speaker 4: You know what's crazy? 00:11:53 Speaker 1: You got one more time to talk about my friend on this mic before it's you and me. 00:11:56 Speaker 5: Okay. 00:11:56 Speaker 2: All right. 00:11:57 Speaker 1: I'm saying, wait a minute. 00:11:58 Speaker 4: Because, damn, I'm going to stick up for my friend. 00:12:00 Speaker 1: Basically, we was at a strip club over beignets. These niggas was arguing. Hold on, hold on, hold on. 00:12:06 Speaker 4: So, no, wait, wait. 00:12:07 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. 00:12:08 Speaker 6: Who is a cool argument for a New Orleans guy? 00:12:10 Speaker 4: There's hoochie and. 00:12:11 Speaker 1: Titties, and these niggas arguing over titties over beignets. 00:12:13 Speaker 3: They're like, you're probably more further away than they were. They were super close. He had like some steak with some wild, you know, fancy shit. And another nigga had, from New Orleans, he had the beignets. 00:12:24 Speaker 4: And I'm watching. 00:12:24 Speaker 3: I'm like, because you're not paying attention. And I'm like, why are they so froggy? And I'm like, oh, then I'm paying attention. I'm like, oh, these niggas are... Atlanta versus New Orleans, why. 00:12:34 Speaker 1: They eat it? 00:12:34 Speaker 3: But this nigga's cutting his shit up. He cutting his shit up, you know, precise, and he's eating his powder shit. And I'm like, they're going to squabble in? 00:12:43 Speaker 4: And it was getting lit. I'm like, oh, man. It was a heated discourse. 00:12:47 Speaker 1: It was the diaspora wars, the black culture. 00:12:49 Speaker 4: It was a heated discourse about things. 00:12:52 Speaker 2: That was being said. 00:12:52 Speaker 9: Say too much titty and pussy around while y'all go around. 00:12:54 Speaker 4: This is my problem. We was on 85 South, bro. 00:12:56 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:12:56 Speaker 4: And. 00:12:59 Speaker 5: I didn't know about Honey Packs, so I just got educated on Honey. 00:13:02 Speaker 2: Packs, right? 00:13:02 Speaker 5: Which is real odd to me. 00:13:03 Speaker 1: That's hilarious. 00:13:04 Speaker 4: This is crazy, right? 00:13:05 Speaker 6: Like, But they were saying something and I'm like, oh, I get why y'all would need honey packs or y'all would be arguing over food when it's naked women here. That's why y'all need honey packs. Like, women being naked is not a thing. It's like, you just go there with your grandmother, you eat wings. I'm not gonna focus on eating if it's ass and titties and vagina hanging out. 00:13:25 Speaker 4: That just sound crazy. 00:13:27 Speaker 6: And the fact that y'all talking about all this stuff, all we hear is like, so it's naked women around and y'all arguing about the beignets and the gumbo. 00:13:33 Speaker 2: Uh-huh. I mean, it probably would explain the testosterone level rising with the conversation because You know what I mean? Some naked titties. 00:13:40 Speaker 6: I'm not even talking about, don't put no wings in front of me. 00:13:43 Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck about no wings or no beignets. 00:13:45 Speaker 4: Watch out.

00:13:46 Speaker 2: Watch out. 00:13:47 Speaker 7: Maybe we've been around so many strip clubs, maybe we're a little desensitized. 00:13:51 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we go there just for dinner. 00:13:53 Speaker 2: So that would explain your disdain for anywhere else outside of here, because that's fucking crazy. 00:13:57 Speaker 9: That's actually fucking insane. That's fucking regular as fuck. 00:14:02 Speaker 1: The strip club is like going to Medieval Times. 00:14:05 Speaker 2: And that's crazy. 00:14:06 Speaker 4: It's like dinner in a shop. 00:14:07 Speaker 9: Especially when you have medieval times that you can go to. 00:14:09 Speaker 4: Exactly. 00:14:09 Speaker 6: Have you ever been to medieval times? 00:14:13 Speaker 2: I've been there a few times with the kids. 00:14:15 Speaker 9: I'm not wearing no pussy walking up to somebody. 00:14:18 Speaker 6: Medieval times would be way more poppin' if all the damsels in the stretch was naked. 00:14:23 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 00:14:25 Speaker 5: Way more poppin'.. 00:14:28 Speaker 3: To probably Jason's point, I think New York is a close second. People go to New York. live there, suck all the money, opportunity. And they leave and they ain't got nothing. All they say, rats, rats, rats. 00:14:38 Speaker 4: It's like, bro. 00:14:39 Speaker 3: But they got to come back to the city. But me personally, sundown towns. Anywhere that's fucked. 00:14:46 Speaker 5: Up toward us. 00:14:47 Speaker 3: I like to go in areas or cities and just absorb whatever they got going on respectfully. I'm not going there You know, with my nose up. 00:14:55 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? When I go to L.A., it's all love in L.A. 00:14:58 Speaker 5: Every time. 00:14:59 Speaker 3: Why y'all so mad about... Everybody got their own rules or whatever. 00:15:03 Speaker 4: Politics, whatever. Just enjoy that shit. You know what I mean? 00:15:07 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. Even with these jet fuel prices, I'm hopping on planes. I'm not driving through sundown towns. 00:15:11 Speaker 3: Like, I am hopping on a goddamn plane. You be like trying to road trip through places. I'm like, but where you driving through? 00:15:18 Speaker 1: Oh, I ain't going to hold it. Listen, that guy. 00:15:20 Speaker 3: If you got an electric car, you're going to have to, what if you got to charge your shit in the sundown? 00:15:23 Speaker 6: See, that list right there, I've been to all those places, and I like stuff on that list. First off, Corpus Christi in El Paso got the best barbecue, right? And then Scottsdale, right, they got, it's a place called, it's a restaurant, and it's the Carlsbad Tavern. 00:15:41 Speaker 1: This is, what list is this? Because Hialeah being first. 00:15:46 Speaker 4: Hialeah is not white. 00:15:48 Speaker 1: Hialeah is not too far from Opelika. I'm confused. This got to be a different Hialeah. 00:15:54 Speaker 5: I've been to Lincoln. 00:15:55 Speaker 4: The whitest city in the world. 00:15:57 Speaker 5: Hialeah is one of the whitest? 00:15:59 Speaker 2: I didn't even Google something like that. 00:16:02 Speaker 5: I've been to Spokane. They call Spokane Spokompton. We done hung there. 00:16:05 Speaker 4: It's cool. 00:16:06 Speaker 6: Y'all been to Madison? What's funny is I like all them places. I need to go somewhere where they don't like Negroes at. And I'll probably be like, okay, I don't like this town. 00:16:13 Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of places in America. There's a lot of places in America. 00:16:18 Speaker 5: I just haven't quite, I guess there's no reason for me to be there. 00:16:21 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:16:22 Speaker 5: They're not booking me and shit. 00:16:23 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:16:25 Speaker 5: I imagine the Klan booked you for a show. 00:16:27 Speaker 4: Hey, fuck it down, nigga. 00:16:29 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're like, you are very, you know, street smart. Is there any city that you would feel unsafe? 00:16:36 Speaker 2: No. 00:16:37 Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying that because LeBron literally said he feels like he can't live in Philly, bro. 00:16:41 Speaker 6: Man, LeBron was talking about the other day, talking about he wanted to take the team from Memphis and put them in fucking Nashville. 00:16:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about that. 00:16:48 Speaker 5: It's obvious that money that fucked him up. 00:16:50 Speaker 2: Oh. 00:16:50 Speaker 5: That money that fucked him up. 00:16:52 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:16:52 Speaker 6: It's not nothing personal. The money fuck you up, man. The money will make you think you white in America. 00:16:57 Speaker 1: No, no, no. 00:16:58 Speaker 6: Every last person, it's very hard to stay black in concept if you got entirely too much money because people make you feel good and make you feel special and you don't see yourself as a part of the group no more. 00:17:10 Speaker 5: Look what happened to O.J. 00:17:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I would. I understand maybe the O.J. reference, but I think you'll still be put in your place. I think we saw that with Diddy. I think we saw it with Bill Cosby. I know they all did a lot of violating things as well. But even Jay-Z, I still think when he's not in the room, gets talked about like, the black man that he is. I don't think that there is a way that money washes you of your blackness here. I totally agree. 00:17:34 Speaker 6: How you see yourself is different than how people see you. I think they're always reminded. That's why even Diddy got himself in a situation where he forgot, you know, some level, like his voice really, if it's fair to say, like he, nigga, you know you ain't supposed to say some of this shit. These people that gave you all this money, you're not supposed to say some of this shit. You start kind of being like, oh, you know, I'm going to just say what I want. And maybe he did know. Maybe he was ignorant of prison. That's another thing. 00:17:59 Speaker 1: Oh, stop it. Stop it. 00:18:01 Speaker 7: And to that point, some niggas get so

rich that they forget that they work for somebody. 00:18:05 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:18:06 Speaker 7: You start thinking you a boss. And it's like, nah, somebody gave you- Because we think you a boss. Yeah, because we think you a boss. 00:18:10 Speaker 5: We so ignorant. 00:18:10 Speaker 4: We be like, you a boss. 00:18:11 Speaker 5: You a boss, you a boss. 00:18:12 Speaker 7: But somebody gave you that check that made us think that you a boss. 00:18:16 Speaker 6: Imagine the white man that gave Diddy the money. He was talking that shit about white people. 00:18:20 Speaker 5: He's like- The nerve of Sean. 00:18:22 Speaker 1: The nerve of this nigger. 00:18:23 Speaker 4: Fucking Sean. 00:18:25 Speaker 5: I knew he was just like the rest of those niggers. 00:18:28 Speaker 4: That's it. 00:18:29 Speaker 6: So now that money, LeBron talking about taking, you know, don't they got NASCAR there and honky tonk? I'm like, okay, why are you with these white people saying this? And then we got this video. You know what I mean? At least around the white people act like you just the deepest nigga in the world. You know, nah, man, we need to keep it right here in Memphis. Even if you lying, he ain't even false flag. He was just all the way. He was like, yeah, we take a NASCAR, Nashville. Nigga, Memphis is like black as shit. Why the fuck would you move it to the... Just the money. 00:18:57 Speaker 1: It's the money. 00:18:58 Speaker 7: What's crazy about it is he did that shit and they also had them Nikes that had the Lorraine Hotel where MLK was assassinated on them trying to sell them like commemorative Martin Luther King shoes. Like, who the fuck want to commemorate where Martin Luther King was shot at? 00:19:13 Speaker 4: Like, what's up with you, bro? 00:19:14 Speaker 8: Right. 00:19:15 Speaker 2: Right. I mean, figures America's taking advantage of it. 00:19:19 Speaker 1: Shit. 00:19:19 Speaker 2: That shit is celebrated every year for some reason. 00:19:23 Speaker 4: That place, go there. 00:19:24 Speaker 6: It's crazy. I done been to the Lorraine Motel about three times. Every time you go, you see white people, you just be looking at them just like, you motherfucker. 00:19:31 Speaker 4: You motherfucker. 00:19:34 Speaker 6: I hate when white people are at the Lorraine and I'm there At the Civil Rights Museum, I'm just looking at them like, I should fight you right now. 00:19:42 Speaker 1: Well, okay, but we want them to know the history. No? 00:19:45 Speaker 4: Wait, wait, okay. 00:19:46 Speaker 6: I'm not saying, I'm not, I'm just saying emotionally, not saying it's actually a crime. 00:19:50 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:19:51 Speaker 6: I'm saying, because think about it, you're walking through there and they got the price of a slave or price of a nigga. 00:19:55 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to be mad. 00:19:55 Speaker 4: And you're looking right there, you're like, I wonder what you're thinking about. 00:19:58 Speaker 1: I mean, even at the African American Museum, I liked white people being in there, like being there. To white, Latino, Asians, whatever, like learning our history. 00:20:07 Speaker 4: But they've already known this. 00:20:10 Speaker 5: They know the prices. 00:20:10 Speaker 4: They set the prices. You know that. Historically, they're fascinated. Do they want to have dominion over us? Yes. But they're still fascinated with black people. 00:20:19 Speaker 5: Well, you know, in the other episode, we talked about the white guy. It wasn't Peter Till. 00:20:23 Speaker 4: It was somebody. 00:20:23 Speaker 7: I forget who it was, but he was like, he was an African-American studies major in college because he wanted to learn all the shit about niggas so that when he got out of school, he could. 00:20:32 Speaker 4: Start manipulating and doing the dirt he was doing. So it's like... Look at the author of the Project 2025. 00:20:37 Speaker 1: You know there's a mic. 00:20:37 Speaker 4: He studied. 00:20:38 Speaker 3: The author of 20... No, you're right. The author of Project 2025, he studied. 00:20:44 Speaker 3: He studied African-American studies. 00:20:46 Speaker 5: Why? 00:20:46 Speaker 4: Why did he want to get in? 00:20:47 Speaker 1: Because we superhuman. That's why. 00:20:49 Speaker 4: Oh, he got to learn. He got to learn. 00:20:51 Speaker 1: Listen, listen. 00:20:52 Speaker 4: Just like how Batman figured out how to be Superman. 00:20:55 Speaker 1: I'm less superhuman. And that's what Steven Jackson said. This is not a sports podcast, but Steven Jackson, who is one of our cousins. Is he still a cousin? 00:21:08 Speaker 4: Well... Okay, we don't know, but. 00:21:10 Speaker 1: He is one half of the All the Smoke podcast. TBD. And while he was a guest on the Out the Mud podcast, he decided to spark outrage with yet another thought. We've actually talked a lot about this. Athletes with mics. 00:21:27 Speaker 1: Has to be studied. 00:21:27 Speaker 4: Shut up and dribble? Shut up and dribble, man. 00:21:29 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:21:30 Speaker 4: Shut up and dribble. That's crazy. It's okay. They want me to get in the kitchen. That's exactly what he was saying. 00:21:36 Speaker 1: Listen, here we go. 00:21:37 Speaker 4: Don't you get started. So hold on. In all fairness, Steven Jackson wasn't talking about you. 00:21:42 Speaker 1: Well, no, because I'm not on the court, but dang. Anyway, he said a lot of these kids in the league now, black daddy, white mama, mixed breeds. Calling them mixed breeds is also insane. You may as well have used mulatto. 00:22:02 Speaker 4: Well, shout out to the OG Willie D. He calls them mutts. 00:22:06 Speaker 1: No, that is insane. 00:22:08 Speaker 4: That is fucking wild. Y'all say cracker on this show. 00:22:10 Speaker 1: Now listen, he and his peers say that the NBA is not as hungry and he pushed the necessity that Their moms were facing eviction when they were getting into the league. And today's kids, he argues, grew up comfortable and without the desperation.

For Jackson, the priorities have flipped. Too many only look at what the game can do for them, money and fame, in an era where one good play, you can get a name. The result, he says, is players who are too one-dimensional, while international stars are sweeping in and getting the thing. He does make exceptions, but... naming two players that he feel are so great, and this kind of goes to his point. He says Anthony Edwards and Stephon Castle. Now, you know my thoughts on Anthony Edwards, so we're not going to go there. He's a great basketball player. You said what? 00:22:58 Speaker 4: He's a great basketball player. 00:22:59 Speaker 2: He's from the A's. 00:23:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a great basketball player. 00:23:03 Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on him? I don't know. I don't even want to know your thoughts. 00:23:07 Speaker 5: Leave that where that was at. 00:23:08 Speaker 1: I just, when we think of like faces of the league, it can't be him. 00:23:12 Speaker 4: Why not? 00:23:12 Speaker 5: He's too black? 00:23:13 Speaker 1: He has too many kids by too many different women and he's not trying to be a father. 00:23:17 Speaker 3: Do you know Wilt Chamberlain confessed that he slept with over 4,000 women or whatever it was? 00:23:22 Speaker 4: He said 10,000. 00:23:22 Speaker 1: He held signs too. 00:23:23 Speaker 4: He was the face of the league once upon a time. 00:23:25 Speaker 2: So the women that giving up the pussy don't get, like they get. 00:23:28 Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, no. They're no better. I just think let's have some better examples here, you know? 00:23:35 Speaker 4: Morals for men. 00:23:36 Speaker 2: You said what? 00:23:38 Speaker 5: Morals for men. 00:23:39 Speaker 2: Let's not leave here. That's fine. Morals for men. That's not bad. The ladies that decided to not make him wear a condom. Like, they don't have no fault. 00:23:49 Speaker 1: Decided not to make him wear... Like, do you hear how you just phrased that? 00:23:53 Speaker 2: I'm just asking a question. 00:23:54 Speaker 1: It was two consenting adults. 00:23:55 Speaker 4: Right. 00:23:56 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is, as an adult with a lot of money, he also is aware of the consequences. His frontal lobe has fully developed. He knows what he's doing. And he's choosing to go out here and spread his seed and say, I ain't the pappy. I don't want to take care... I don't want to be a father. Well, if you don't want to be a father, you probably shouldn't be having unprotected sex out here with all of these women. 00:24:17 Speaker 4: It's that simple. 00:24:18 Speaker 1: It's math. 00:24:19 Speaker 2: I don't think it's that. I see it another way. 00:24:22 Speaker 1: Of course you do. But this is simple math. This isn't man math. This is basic math. This is science. 00:24:28 Speaker 2: So a human that's half yours, half his, but the minute y'all have sex, you now have 100% of the fucking... That makes no sense. 00:24:37 Speaker 4: Exactly. 00:24:38 Speaker 9: And that's what I'm saying. 00:24:39 Speaker 1: He's giving 100% responsibility to the women in. 00:24:40 Speaker 3: A 50-50... Wait, has he openly said that he wasn't taking care of his kids? 00:24:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, he out here only claiming one of them. Look, he's openly like, I don't want to be a father to the child I created with you. Yeah, he says, I can give you this money. 00:24:58 Speaker 5: But I mean, that's what they wanted anyway. 00:25:01 Speaker 1: No, a lot of women want love and a family. They want a two-parent household. 00:25:06 Speaker 9: No, no, no. 00:25:08 Speaker 4: Okay. We're not doing this. We're not doing this. We're not doing this. 00:25:14 Speaker 9: We were supposed to be talking about. 00:25:15 Speaker 2: My racial guts. Hold on, hold on. Hold on now. 00:25:18 Speaker 9: Hold on. 00:25:19 Speaker 4: Zion. 00:25:20 Speaker 2: So they didn't give up that free pussy because he's worth $ 180 million. 00:25:24 Speaker 1: First off. 00:25:25 Speaker 2: No, no, no. Yes or no. Not a first off and not a second off. So if he was working at McDonald's, they would have gave him that same free pussy all these other women. 00:25:33 Speaker 1: We are not talking about Zion, who goes after... Hold on. 00:25:37 Speaker 2: You cannot ask. 00:25:38 Speaker 1: No, no. 00:25:38 Speaker 2: It's yes, no. One moment. 00:25:40 Speaker 4: That's a fair question. This dick ain't free. 00:25:44 Speaker 2: Crazy. 00:25:45 Speaker 4: Listen now. 00:25:46 Speaker 1: Zion was dealing with sex workers. The women that Anthony Edwards was dealing with, yes, it was free pussy because these women were. 00:25:54 Speaker 4: They loved him. 00:25:54 Speaker 2: See? 00:25:55 Speaker 5: A lot. 00:25:55 Speaker 1: They did. 00:25:56 Speaker 2: They loved him. 00:25:56 Speaker 4: They wanted to be the man he is. By the way, by the way, if there was. 00:25:59 Speaker 1: At least a good looking man, has a good job, yes. 00:26:02 Speaker 5: That means you don't love him because he has those. That's not loving somebody. 00:26:05 Speaker 1: Well, they were attracted and they believed that they were in relationship. You can't even say that with a straight face. That's funny as hell. 00:26:13 Speaker 2: So wait a minute. This kid that's raised in a place where he can take his grandma to eat chicken with pussy and titties walking all over the place. This is his daily thing. Y'all are blaming him. 00:26:23 Speaker 1: It's not daily. 00:26:23 Speaker 9: He's a Minnesota. 00:26:24 Speaker 2: Hold on. 00:26:24 Speaker 5: Hold on. 00:26:24 Speaker 2: But he grew up here. 00:26:25 Speaker 5: He grew up here. 00:26:26 Speaker 2: So him being over-sexualized is now being fucking challenged in a place where you put him at, where it's celebrated, where you can take your grandma with titties and pussy walking all around. 00:26:36 Speaker 1: So what problem just did y'all was make an excuse? 00:26:40 Speaker 2: I'm not making an excuse. 00:26:40 Speaker 4: Hold on, you just made an. 00:26:41

Speaker 1: Excuse for all the men coming out of Atlanta who are over-sexualized in an environment that allows them to see pussy in and all these things. And so that allows them to create broken homes all. 00:26:53 Speaker 2: Over the country? No, it's two people that created it. We're missing out this other half of people. He didn't rape anybody, right? 00:27:00 Speaker 1: No, he doesn't have that on. 00:27:02 Speaker 4: Got it, got it, got it, got it. 00:27:03 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's keep that in mind when we talking. 00:27:05 Speaker 4: My mom always said the flesh is weak. I keep telling y'all this. 00:27:08 Speaker 2: Especially when you raising them where it's nothing but nakedness all over the fucking place. 00:27:12 Speaker 4: What you expecting to do? 00:27:13 Speaker 1: You're not walking down the street in Atlanta seeing someone naked. 00:27:16 Speaker 3: Y'all ain't trying to do Magic City at the Atlanta Hall of Fame. 00:27:19 Speaker 9: You can't go into a strip club where it's naked. 00:27:21 Speaker 4: It don't go like that. 00:27:22 Speaker 1: Y'all can go to the stroll instead. Y'all got a whole. 00:27:24 Speaker 5: They not naked. 00:27:25 Speaker 1: They not naked? 00:27:26 Speaker 2: No. 00:27:27 Speaker 5: But the thing is, Ant definitely should be taking care of his kids. 00:27:30 Speaker 4: Yes. Thank you. 00:27:31 Speaker 5: Come on, guys. If you did it. 00:27:34 Speaker 6: But I do think there's a greater conversation eventually that has to be had. 00:27:37 Speaker 5: The biracial. 00:27:40 Speaker 4: The biracial. 00:27:41 Speaker 1: I don't like that you're laughing while you say biracial. 00:27:45 Speaker 4: Because it's funny. 00:27:46 Speaker 5: Because that's something that people be saying under their breath. And I'm not mad at Jake. 00:27:50 Speaker 2: No, no. 00:27:50 Speaker 4: Shout out to Stack. 00:27:51 Speaker 1: Stack says everything. 00:27:52 Speaker 4: That you be thinking. Out loud. Because you be thinking, you be like... Don't give him free time, man. 00:27:56 Speaker 6: Bro, Stacks say all my thoughts and shit out loud. And I be just like, bro, I don't think you should have said that out loud. Because I'm sure there would be some signs to prove this. But I don't think we should try to discover the signs. 00:28:09 Speaker 7: Well, you know, earlier this year, we had the viral song, Why Is It So Many Jalens in the NBA? 00:28:13 Speaker 4: And if you look at the list of Jalens, like... There's a lot. It was probably like. 00:28:17 Speaker 7: 60% of them was all right. The other 40% was kind of like, y'all not really good players. 00:28:23 Speaker 4: Who's the best Jalen? Who's the best Jalen? 00:28:26 Speaker 1: Brunson and Hurts. 00:28:27 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I say, you know, he gonna say Brunson. 00:28:30 Speaker 1: Well, you can't talk without a mic, A-King. 00:28:32 Speaker 4: Listen, Viratio. 00:28:35 Speaker 9: I'm sorry for putting y'all in this position. 00:28:38 Speaker 5: No, no, no. Oh, no, no. 00:28:39 Speaker 4: This is every day. Welcome to the chat. 00:28:41 Speaker 5: Every day, bro. 00:28:43 Speaker 4: Every day. Oh, I'm not gonna lie. 00:28:44 Speaker 1: We have a whole group chat. 00:28:45 Speaker 2: Oh, no. 00:28:46 Speaker 1: And it's rough. 00:28:47 Speaker 2: Sideways. 00:28:48 Speaker 6: But are we mad that Stack says what we be thinking under our breath and shit? To his point, like, I do think when you start looking at how basketball players are developed, it's not really about the hunger and desire that initially it was. It's about the most trained people getting the opportunity. So money means most people are going to be the. 00:29:07 Speaker 5: Most trained, right? 00:29:08 Speaker 6: Like you start looking at traveling teams or AAU programs, right? Or like who can afford to put their kids through drills? Some of these dudes be training seven years old, eight years old, and they got full training. And that means you're going to definitely have, you know, finances is going to start separating somebody who really desires and needs it. 00:29:30 Speaker 5: So that gives you that extra opportunity. 00:29:32 Speaker 6: Thing that we talking about versus the players like who, you know, they like basketball and then their family can afford to put them through the best programs. 00:29:39 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:29:40 Speaker 1: My mind went a little, went a little somewhere. And it's because it also brings me, I binged a little bit of the drop last night. So it brings me to like this conversation around like, people who come from nothing and desperation that work harder to get somewhere in comparison to people who are kind of, it gets handed to them essentially. And we kind of talked about that with even what Da Vinci said with the diaspora ideas of things. So in having this conversation, it brings me back there, but it also reminds me of the knucklehead quote unquote version of it, where a lot of people who come from the streets or desperation or not knowing no better, when people try to put them in a position to do better, they still don't do better. I think if we're going back to sports, we could bring in John Moran with that and him doing the gun shit. Or we see a lot of the athletes that got locked up who are still pushing drugs, the one with the documentary. You know what I mean? And so it's weird. I wonder if this is also just stemming from these kids are just enjoying something and feeling like, I'm doing it because I love it, grew up, was able to do it, and now I don't have to feed all my family. Because what we're also seeing now is all the people who grew up in desperation or just to get out from where they were went broke trying to take care of everybody that was around them as well. So, I mean, do you think that Someone who's kind of handed, we had the private school versus public school conversation too. Do you think that someone given the opportunity to get things actually does result in a better product than

someone coming from a place of maybe ignorance or hands out or desperation in terms of the longevity of who they end up becoming or being? And this could be as rappers. 00:31:26 Speaker 6: Who is the greatest player that this conversation would be about? 00:31:30 Speaker 5: Maybe Steph? 00:31:32 Speaker 1: Okay, because yes. 00:31:34 Speaker 2: Steph's not half white. His mom is. 00:31:36 Speaker 5: No, no, no. 00:31:37 Speaker 4: Just from coming from. 00:31:38 Speaker 6: She's had somebody who was raised in it. Yeah, no, no, no. 00:31:41 Speaker 1: Now it's just having resources compared to not. Actually, yeah, Steph Curry, I think. 00:31:45 Speaker 5: Would be... Kobe. 00:31:47 Speaker 4: Kobe, too. 00:31:47 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, Kobe, too. 00:31:48 Speaker 4: Kobe, too, for sure. 00:31:50 Speaker 5: What was Michael's journey? But we don't know everybody's story. 00:31:53 Speaker 6: I know Magic Johnson based off the stories I heard, so I know he was a hungry kid coming up. His parents had, you know, reasonable... They took care of him. He didn't... You know, he wasn't on the streets. But it seems like they have very meager beginnings. 00:32:05 Speaker 1: But to me, then, when we talk about the other talent that I think just kind of fell below them because of their upbringing, it brings me to, like, of Sebastian Telfair, who had the talent, got somewhere, and then didn't really all the way make it, but also couldn't leave the streets. 00:32:22 Speaker 4: I feel like it's gotta be in you, though. You have to want that. 00:32:25 Speaker 7: From whatever situation you come from, you gotta actually be about that thing. If you're gonna be a ball player, that means that whether you broke or whether you rich, you need to get your ass up at 5 a.m., put up some jumpers, run some suicides, be heavy conditioning, whatever it is. But also, I just want to make it clear, just based on strictly what Steven Jackson is talking about, white people is. 00:32:45 Speaker 4: Broke, too. You know what I mean? 00:32:47 Speaker 7: Everybody that's white, we know they have white privilege and things like that, access to other things that everybody might not have. But there's a bunch of broke-ass white people out here. I don't want to perpetuate the idea. 00:32:57 Speaker 4: It's different, though. 00:32:58 Speaker 1: Why is it different? 00:33:00 Speaker 4: Access you still have. Yeah, it's just different. White people. 00:33:04 Speaker 6: If you white and broke, forgive me all white, broke people. 00:33:06 Speaker 4: That's a travesty, bro. 00:33:06 Speaker 5: This is your country. Rob Markman, Jr. 00:33:08 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:33:08 Speaker 4: Rob Markman, Jr. 00:33:08 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Rob Markman, Jr. 00:33:09 Speaker 4: So what the fuck happened to you? Rob Markman, Jr.: It's a travesty. 00:33:12 Speaker 5: I get it, and I know it's a real thing because I've been around places, but it's like, come on, bro. 00:33:15 Speaker 2: Rob Markman, Jr. 00:33:16

Speaker 4: I think trajectory is hope, right? 00:33:18 Speaker 3: Even if you start off somewhere, it don't mean the destination you get to, because you still have to make choices along the way, regardless of what, right? 00:33:28 Speaker 4: I don't know. I do understand the biracial context of it. 00:33:31 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the bullshit we say under our breath. 00:33:33 Speaker 3: It's the bullshit we say under our breath. But to her point, when you say having the resources to go through the whole process from child to adult, that would indicate that a two-parent black household is broker than a biracial household, right? 00:33:54 Speaker 7: Mm-hmm. 00:33:55 Speaker 4: In terms of resources. 00:33:56 Speaker 6: But I don't know if it's just as simple as economics when we're saying broke or poor. We're still talking about a level of systemic oppression and a bunch of other stuff. So that's what separates like a poor white person from a poor black person. Like it's one thing you're a poor white person and then you just, you know, things ain't broke for you or, you know, opportunity maybe you hinder yourself. It's another thing when the country is actively... Working overtime to make sure. You know what I mean? And again, all these poor folks hopefully should come together. 00:34:26 Speaker 1: So are y'all not giving money to white unhoused people when you see them? 00:34:29 Speaker 5: It'd be really hard. 00:34:30 Speaker 1: You got to think a little bit? 00:34:32 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:34:32 Speaker 6: Like if it's a military vet, I'd be like, I feel a little bit more. But if you're just like a regular white person, I. 00:34:38 Speaker 5: Really think you're scamming me, to be honest. I ain't going to lie. 00:34:41 Speaker 6: I think you got a car parked around the corner and this is your play. 00:34:45 Speaker 3: You ever think about like, I wonder what they did 20 years ago, they harmed a black person. 00:34:52 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, it's always, it just goes into drugs for me. I think that's a big thing. 00:34:57 Speaker 4: But you don't know that, though. 00:34:58 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that. But again, unless there are, and even to be fair, even veterans I know, because my mom, my brother and my sister are both Army vets. Just knowing that if they get injured or the things, PTSD, the things that they deal with, if they don't come out, they also put them on a timeline. You get out, you got a good five months to get your benefits. Otherwise they're gone forever type shit. And they make it just very difficult to navigate, to even get the help that you need leaving the military. 00:35:26 Speaker 4: You're biracial? 00:35:28 Speaker 1: I am, but I'm a black woman. 00:35:30 Speaker 4: I didn't, but I'm out the office. 00:35:32 Speaker 2: You biracial? 00:35:32 Speaker 1: Yes, I am. 00:35:33 Speaker 2: Well, would it be fair for somebody to say you shouldn't be sitting here because you biracial? 00:35:37 Speaker 1: What do you mean sitting here? 00:35:38 Speaker 2: This conversation started because he was saying it was a lot of biracial people taking over the NBA. Maybe you got a perk and you sitting there because you biracial. Would it be fair if somebody said that to you? 00:35:47 Speaker 1: Well, I think that that's the difference, right? A, I didn't grow up with any sort of handouts. Like, we grew up on all public assistance, single parent household. My mama raised three black girls. Aside from that, what we're doing, to me, the conversations that I led, like, I think that this is a skill, this is art, this is a talent. 00:36:09 Speaker 2: Sure. 00:36:10 Speaker 1: And then when you take it away from sports, right? Then we have the Jordan Pills. We have the Zendayas. We have the great biracials that are doing and pushing a lot of things. The great biracials. 00:36:23 Speaker 4: The great biracials. The great biracials. 00:36:28 Speaker 2: So the biracials that y'all like is cool, but the ones that ain't, ain't dunking the way. 00:36:32 Speaker 4: We need to dunk. I think, I think, I think, I think it's tricky, guys. 00:36:36 Speaker 1: It's tricky. 00:36:37 Speaker 4: I think it's getting very tricky. 00:36:40 Speaker 2: The great biracials we fucked with, we're going to put them over here because they had a little more. 00:36:44 Speaker 4: Who are the top five great biracials? 00:36:47 Speaker 5: Oh my God. 00:36:49 Speaker 4: Wait, wait, we can't make a great biracial list right now? I never said that, but the Jack says to follow the NBA. 00:36:53 Speaker 2: Is Barack biracial? 00:36:54 Speaker 1: Barack got to be the greatest biracial of all time. 00:37:02 Speaker 4: Wait, you said Malcolm X? 00:37:03 Speaker 1: I heard he had a little. 00:37:05 Speaker 4: No, no. 00:37:06 Speaker 8: No, no. 00:37:06 Speaker 4: He had red hair. 00:37:07 Speaker 2: Slippery slope, guys. 00:37:07 Speaker 4: Slippery slope. 00:37:08 Speaker 1: Slippery slope. 00:37:09 Speaker 2: He right. 00:37:09 Speaker 4: Let's get away from this. 00:37:10 Speaker 3: Y'all might be the only biracial person in here. 00:37:19 Speaker 9: You know, you can hear what you hear because you buy right. 00:37:22 Speaker 2: So you got the privilege. What if we said that? 00:37:24 Speaker 4: No, no, no. 00:37:25 Speaker 9: That's not fair. 00:37:29 Speaker 2: First of all, I'm just saying to Steven Jackson point, he's saying we start talking, saying that you get some type of advantage. 00:37:36 Speaker 9: I think these kids have a great. 00:37:39 Speaker 1: But you want to know, actually, because you say what you said, I'm just asking. I'm actually at the bottom. 00:37:43 Speaker 4: You know why? Because I'm a woman. 00:37:45 Speaker 1: So because of patriarchy, all of you actually sit above me in every element. So fuck my whiteness. 00:37:52 Speaker 4: The little bit that I have. I'm trying to figure out who all the biracial podcasts are. For sure, white women got it bad. 00:37:57 Speaker 2: What? 00:37:58

Speaker 1: Women got it terrible. 00:37:59 Speaker 2: You got on more jewelry and everything. Everybody in here. You the boss. 00:38:03 Speaker 1: We're not going to do this. I'm just saying. By the way, are. 00:38:05 Speaker 4: Y'all looking- Watch your pockets. 00:38:07 Speaker 2: Watch your pockets. 00:38:08 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 00:38:08 Speaker 2: Oh, are we pocket watching today? You're a superior biracial. 00:38:11 Speaker 4: How come the NBA- Superior biracial. 00:38:13 Speaker 9: How come the NBA couldn't be fooled with some superior biracial? 00:38:15 Speaker 1: We went from great to superior biracial. 00:38:17 Speaker 4: Superior biracial. Could be. 00:38:19 Speaker 9: Because it's tough to get to the NBA, no matter if your parents rich or not. 00:38:22 Speaker 5: It's only like a very, very small percentage. 00:38:24 Speaker 9: You know what else is even tougher? 00:38:25 Speaker 4: Talk to me. 00:38:26 Speaker 1: Monetizing a podcast. This shit is tough. And I did it. 00:38:30 Speaker 5: It's easier for you than me. 00:38:31 Speaker 4: All right, we're not going to do this. It's true. 00:38:34 Speaker 2: Hold on. Very easy. 00:38:35 Speaker 4: You might be on to something. 00:38:36 Speaker 2: Because you're biracial. 00:38:37 Speaker 4: Because you're a woman and you're biracial. So you got two buildings. 00:38:40 Speaker 5: I don't know how all these things are happening for you. With the name of your pod, I can't get a damn nothing. 00:38:45 Speaker 4: Maybe like me, bro. 00:38:46 Speaker 5: No, no, no. 00:38:46 Speaker 1: You see, we renamed our pod. 00:38:48 Speaker 4: Hey, Sharla and Dolly. Sharla and Dolly. 00:38:52 Speaker 3: How many biracials we got at Black Effect? 00:38:54 Speaker 2: Lord. 00:38:55 Speaker 1: I think it's just two of us. 00:38:56 Speaker 5: Okay, so listen. 00:38:56 Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about? 00:38:58 Speaker 4: Okay, so listen. 00:38:59 Speaker 5: I used to have a conversation. 00:39:00 Speaker 4: And he might be the most. 00:39:01 Speaker 5: I used to have. 00:39:02 Speaker 4: A conversation with DJ Head, right? Okay. 00:39:04 Speaker 5: And it's important, right? 00:39:06 Speaker 6: I used to always tell him we'd be on tour, right? And I'm like, you ever notice, like, we don't see no white ghettos in California? 00:39:12 Speaker 2: Hmm. 00:39:13 Speaker 6: Like, every ghetto in California, I used to, I have a, this is not true, but I have a thought. I think white people get $ 100, 000 at birth in California. 00:39:21 Speaker 2: Oh my God. 00:39:21 Speaker 4: No, everywhere. 00:39:22 Speaker 5: Because how can you not afford to live in Watts if you poor? 00:39:25 Speaker 2: Yo, if you poor. 00:39:26 Speaker 5: Like, how could you not afford to live in Compton if you poor? 00:39:29 Speaker 4: Or South Central? 00:39:30 Speaker 6: Like, how are you that... And you can go to like all the other desert towns. I'd have been to all the desert... It ain't enough white... If you think about how

many white people is in California, right? If I think the number of population is 50 million, why are you not deep in the projects? If it's 25 million, if it's 50 million white folk, if 50 million people in California, 25 million white folk, a really large number of people that migrated from South, black folk, I never see a lot of white folk in the ghetto. 00:40:01 Speaker 1: I'm like- This might be the most ignorant thought of the show. 00:40:03 Speaker 5: I'm telling you. 00:40:04 Speaker 4: It's kind of true. I don't know. 00:40:06 Speaker 3: When they build up all of these high- Why are they not there? These high-priced apartments, right? And you see white- Oh, I'm from Nebraska. I'm like, well, what did you do? What was your story before? 00:40:15 Speaker 4: How'd you just got here and that's it? So I do, I can't prove it. 00:40:18 Speaker 6: Let's think about, how are they not this overflowing number in the ghetto? 00:40:24 Speaker 1: It's like they all got money. And look, I can't even. 00:40:27 Speaker 2: Talk about, you know, Florida is a different place. 00:40:30 Speaker 1: There was definitely white people in the ghetto in Florida. 00:40:32 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. 00:40:33 Speaker 6: So I think it's a California thing where like, if you white, you got to get a check or something because- It should be an overflowing number, just sheer per capita, 25 million white folk. It should be a sheer huge number of poor white people. 00:40:47 Speaker 4: I go to Sam's Club. 00:40:48 Speaker 6: They be using like their little government card. At the Sam's Club, he charged like $ 700. I'm like, where does she live? 00:40:57 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 00:40:58 Speaker 1: Like, how are you. 00:41:00 Speaker 2: Or it ain't 25 million. They just telling us that so we can stay the minority mentally. 00:41:05 Speaker 4: That could be the intelligence. 00:41:06 Speaker 9: I've actually talked about that. 00:41:08 Speaker 1: I've talked about the distribution of how. 00:41:10 Speaker 2: They say people are... Yeah, I don't believe that number. 00:41:13 Speaker 5: It can't be true. 00:41:14 Speaker 2: It can't be true. 00:41:14 Speaker 4: Because where are you at? I go to Victorville and shit. 00:41:17 Speaker 6: I'm like, it ain't enough people here for it to make sense to all the white people. You go to Ponddale or Lancaster or Moreno Valley, it ain't enough... White people here, to make sense, like, where is the, like, when I go to the south, there's certain places where you can see, like, that's like a white ghetto. 00:41:31 Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, yeah. 00:41:32 Speaker 5: Oh, that's a white ghetto. 00:41:33 Speaker 1: Well, it's, y'all don't exist in California. 00:41:35 Speaker 2: In California? 00:41:36 Speaker 5: We got tons of trailer parks, but not enough. 00:41:37 Speaker 1: That's where the white people are. 00:41:39 Speaker 5: Not enough to house. Not enough to house. Okay, why are they not in the trailer parks in Watts? Or Compton? Carson got trailer parks. 00:41:47 Speaker 7: Oh. 00:41:47 Speaker 4: They got nice ones, too. 00:41:48 Speaker 5: Like, they in the trailer park in Orange County. 00:41:51 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:41:51 Speaker 5: And it ain't enough trailer parks. So California is hiding their broke white people. I don't know how. 00:41:58 Speaker 6: I've been, for years, I've been telling DJ Head, I'm like, bro, we need to figure out where all the poor white people are. 00:42:04 Speaker 4: That would be a dope true crime series. 00:42:06 Speaker 7: Like, yo, where's the broke white people? 00:42:08 Speaker 5: If it's 25 million of them. 00:42:09 Speaker 4: In search of the broke white people. 00:42:11 Speaker 2: Here. 00:42:11 Speaker 5: That's hilarious. 00:42:12 Speaker 6: Because you go to every other state, you've been in Phoenix, it'd be like poor white ghettos. You start going to Texas, it's poor white ghettos. You go anywhere else. But California is like, No. 00:42:21 Speaker 4: I never thought about that. That's some real. 00:42:24 Speaker 5: Shit, though. 00:42:25 Speaker 6: We might know one or two white people that live anywhere near where we live. 00:42:29 Speaker 5: At best. 00:42:30 Speaker 6: I remember growing up in Compton, before I moved to my dad's house in Watts, there was not a sole white person that lived near us. 00:42:36 Speaker 1: At your school, did you have white people at your school? 00:42:39 Speaker 4: No. 00:42:40 Speaker 5: I didn't see a white person at school until high school. 00:42:43 Speaker 4: Really? 00:42:44 Speaker 6: And I went to Paramount, which is kind of like a bridge over because they had AP classes. They have a bridge over where it's like coast to Lakewood, like all the suburbs. So then you start going to school with white people. 00:42:56 Speaker 2: Damn. 00:42:56 Speaker 6: At Kennedy Elementary, at Ward Middle School, there was not a single solitary white person there. 00:43:02 Speaker 4: Interesting. 00:43:03 Speaker 5: Not one. 00:43:04 Speaker 1: Damn. 00:43:05 Speaker 2: And it won't be. 00:43:06 Speaker 4: And I don't know how. Like, how did y'all get away from the ghetto if you was poor? If you was poor, right. Where the fuck did you go? 00:43:12 Speaker 6: And then even when you talk about trailer park, because it is trailer park, but they all liking Buena Park. 00:43:17 Speaker 5: I'm like, wait a minute. We can't even afford to live in Buena Park. How you in that? 00:43:19 Speaker 1: How you in that? 00:43:20 Speaker 4: Something is happening. 00:43:21 Speaker 1: He said something is happening. Goddamn. 00:43:24 Speaker 2: God. 00:43:25 Speaker 1: They treating the whites in California like Dubai. We going to go ahead and set you motherfuckers up. 00:43:30 Speaker 4: Think about that. Somebody do some research on this. Clip this and do some research. 00:43:34 Speaker 1: Clip this. Well, let's get into the drop, guys. 00:43:37 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:43:37 Speaker 1: Let's get into- Y'all got the checks.

Ooh, the privilege. Y'all making money. 00:43:42 Speaker 2: Man, we ain't biracial. Ain't that crazy? Wow. 00:43:46 Speaker 5: Overcame all the highs. 00:43:47 Speaker 4: See what happened when the blacks stick together? 00:43:49 Speaker 2: See what happened? 00:43:50 Speaker 1: Community. 00:43:51 Speaker 4: Oh, there's a biracial across the show. 00:43:54 Speaker 2: There definitely is a biracial. 00:43:55 Speaker 4: That's why we got on. Oh, right, the director. 00:43:58 Speaker 9: Spellman. 00:43:58 Speaker 4: Shout out to Spellman. Oh, shit. 00:43:59 Speaker 2: Look at the biracial. 00:44:01 Speaker 4: He's another superior biracial. There we go. Superior biracial. 00:44:06 Speaker 1: Okay, so a superior biracial put y'all in position. 00:44:08 Speaker 4: That's what it is. 00:44:10 Speaker 2: So look, we're starting to see. All right, Jack. You better say something about this, too. 00:44:18 Speaker 1: For our audience, share your role, what play y'all had. If you guys haven't yet, The Drop is a new series on Hulu, which is the essentially life right after Snowfall. So right after Franklin. 00:44:35 Speaker 5: Get took on alcohol. Yeah. Old school wine though. There we go. 00:44:39 Speaker 4: There we go. We got Wanda, who. 00:44:42 Speaker 1: Is the reformed crackhead who goes from, and she started what? At the sex? sex phone operator place, to doing the crack stuff, to getting clean. And now she's in the music industry. So we are set in Los Angeles in 1990. 00:44:57 Speaker 5: 1990, 1991. 00:44:59 Speaker 1: And I don't think I expected to see your face. 00:45:01 Speaker 2: Right? 00:45:01 Speaker 5: I don't know how. 00:45:02 Speaker 1: Right out the gate. 00:45:03 Speaker 4: Right out the gate. Look at the privilege. Right? 00:45:05 Speaker 5: Shout out to the biracial. 00:45:06 Speaker 1: Come on. So what is y'all's role in the drop? And then let's get into the backdrop of where this takes place and what culture was like in L.A.? during that time, but let's start. 00:45:18 Speaker 5: With Jones Bros. 00:45:18 Speaker 4: So, Paul Hume wrote all the music, all the original compositions. 00:45:22 Speaker 5: Very nice. 00:45:23 Speaker 6: Not only that, he consulted to make sure things were authentic. 00:45:26 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:45:27 Speaker 5: The executive produced the after show. 00:45:29 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:45:29 Speaker 6: Right, that's on Hulu, that DJ head is hosting, him and Emile. There was some other things he did. 00:45:35 Speaker 5: He's a star actor. 00:45:36 Speaker 4: He plays Trigg, a.k.a. 00:45:38 Speaker 5: The Trigger Man. 00:45:39 Speaker 1: You don't want to be called star actor? 00:45:41 Speaker 4: It was that good. 00:45:43 Speaker 9: It went viral. I'm receiving everything. I'm like, okay, shit. 00:45:48 Speaker 4: It went viral. 00:45:49 Speaker 1: What scene did he go by? 00:45:51 Speaker 6: He's the one that checked Lamar's silly ass for touching the black man radio. 00:45:55 Speaker 4: That was episode three. 00:45:57 Speaker 1: So to be fair, can I draw a quick parallel that's a little problematic? 00:46:01 Speaker 5: Sure. 00:46:02 Speaker 1: So we go from embracing the lead actor on Forever, which is a Mara Brock Akil film about teenage love, right? 00:46:11 Speaker 4: I haven't saw that. 00:46:12 Speaker 1: So to me, beautiful. And waiting for season two. But we go from really, truly appreciating the neurodivergence of that character to people fucking villainizing Lamar, who clearly is on the spectrum. 00:46:25 Speaker 4: Nobody was on the spectrum in 1990. 00:46:26 Speaker 1: Lamar's character is on the spectrum. 00:46:28 Speaker 4: Not in 1990. 00:46:29 Speaker 1: Okay, they didn't know what a spectrum was. 00:46:31 Speaker 6: So you can't use today's eyes to judge yesterday. 00:46:35 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:46:37 Speaker 4: All I know is. 00:46:38 Speaker 1: Which we did forever as a modern, which is maybe why it was Embracer. You're right. In 1990, black people, we didn't. 00:46:46 Speaker 2: We just had to deal with it. That's what we were having to do back then. Whatever it is, oh, she don't cry, you deal with it. 00:46:50 Speaker 1: Was that written on purpose like that then? 00:46:51 Speaker 5: Yes. 00:46:51 Speaker 1: Oh, wow. 00:46:52 Speaker 5: Very intentional. 00:46:53 Speaker 1: Okay, because I think a lot of people, the same way a lot of motherfuckers hated Tyreek in Power, is the actual emotions that I see Lamar's character bringing out. 00:47:03 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:47:04 Speaker 5: Asante is doing an incredible job. 00:47:06 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:47:06 Speaker 5: Oh, he's killing the character. He's killing it. 00:47:08 Speaker 4: He's killing it. 00:47:09 Speaker 6: Because he's the coolest young man, period, in the world. And I hate his character watching it now. And I was with him while he was there making the show. I'll be like, man, this motherfucker Lamar, man. 00:47:19 Speaker 3: He was in another film called Story Ave. I believe that went straight to Showtime. 00:47:24 Speaker 4: Bonesu wrote that. 00:47:25 Speaker 3: And he played a similar character where he's a young kid, smart in the arts. And then he just gets into the street shit. And then it's like, but then he can't squabble. He'll get his ass beat, you know. But the arc is there. 00:47:37 Speaker 1: So you were... intentional on the music, the scoring of this? 00:47:43 Speaker 4: Not scoring. 00:47:44 Speaker 1: Not the scoring. 00:47:44 Speaker 4: The scoring. 00:47:45 Speaker 2: So my partner, La'Rance Dobson of 1500, he's executive music producer. 00:47:50 Speaker 5: Shout out to everybody that contributed. The scoring. 00:47:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course. 00:47:54 Speaker 5: Siege, all the guys, but Rance, man. 00:47:56 Speaker 2: Rance. So they handled the scoring and then as far as the needle drops, like the songs you're hearing throughout. That's Malcolm Spellman, and that's Kier. And you did the writing for the original? Any original lyric you've heard from Denae

singing R & B stuff, or Buddy rapping, or Artillery, I mean Artillery rapping, or any rap that you hear that happened in the R & B stuff, that's me. 00:48:16 Speaker 1: Okay. I can dig it. 00:48:18 Speaker 2: And I was able to assist in the story as far as like, when I say creative consultant, it wasn't just like, I wasn't like fixing clothes. I'll be a creative consultant to the EPs. To the marketing. 00:48:28 Speaker 5: To the story writers. 00:48:30 Speaker 2: To any aspect of it, I had some type of hand and lending some voice to it. You know what I'm saying? 00:48:37 Speaker 4: So it would get kind of like a light approval. 00:48:39 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say light approval. 00:48:41 Speaker 4: No, yes, I would say light approval. 00:48:42 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say light approval just because. 00:48:45 Speaker 4: It really was. They was really asking. 00:48:47 Speaker 2: They was leaning on us for sure. 00:48:48 Speaker 4: Before we do execute this. 00:48:49 Speaker 9: I would get a text or they would definitely check this out. 00:48:55 Speaker 2: What do you think it is? Glasses. Check this out. What do you think it is? 00:48:58 Speaker 4: Right. 00:48:59 Speaker 2: But it was just an amazing fucking experience actually just to learn television behind what people are seeing in the front of it. Again, people were like, damn, you guys acted in it. And we both, we joked like, damn, that's crazy. That was super dope to do. But the power lied in us being behind the scenes and being able to go get a DJ and sugar free and all these other people that you're going to see popping up to now come back and do some other stuff that's bigger than just acting. Because we're not actors. I would never want to step on those guys. Tee, fucking Peyton, Gale, even Buddy and Simba. We're rappers, yes, but them boys is doing something different. 00:49:36 Speaker 1: Y'all got to act like yourself, though. Simba was acting like himself. Tiptoe was acting like himself. 00:49:44 Speaker 4: No, he's not no gangster. 00:49:46 Speaker 5: No, no, no. 00:49:47 Speaker 1: Simba was being Simba. 00:49:48 Speaker 4: The animated part of him. 00:49:50 Speaker 6: I mean, I could see parts of Simba in Tiptoe, but that ain't Tiptoe. That nigga is a fool on that show. I like Simba in real life. I don't like Tiptoe. Tiptoe a bitch ass nigga. Tiptoe see a nigga in the house and shit. 00:50:06 Speaker 5: He like, man, you gave me the pass in the county. 00:50:08 Speaker 6: But when your homie start tripping on me and shit. 00:50:10 Speaker 4: Now you on the other side. You don't even know where you at. 00:50:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. 00:50:13 Speaker 4: DG, you right there. 00:50:14 Speaker 6: DG, man, shit nigga acting like I don't rap. Nigga, you know, they shouldn't even be begging the boss like you wait. 00:50:18 Speaker 4: Nigga get packed out. Feel me? 00:50:20 Speaker 5: You just sitting right there letting it happen and shit. You don't even say nothing. 00:50:23 Speaker 4: You

full of shit. 00:50:24 Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie. The packed out, the lingo, all the fights. 00:50:27 Speaker 4: Oh, excuse me. Jumped on. 00:50:28 Speaker 1: It was very, it was a lot. 00:50:30 Speaker 2: Good. 00:50:31 Speaker 1: It was a lot. You never got beat up, Eddie? 00:50:33 Speaker 4: You never got beat up? 00:50:35 Speaker 2: What? 00:50:36 Speaker 5: Oh, you missed out. 00:50:37 Speaker 1: What? 00:50:38 Speaker 5: Getting beat up is one of the freest things in the world. It's a freeing feeling. 00:50:42 Speaker 1: To get beat up. 00:50:43 Speaker 5: Especially to get jumped. I got jumped twice. 00:50:46 Speaker 1: See, this is not something we should be encouraging. 00:50:50 Speaker 3: It's not, but whether we encourage it or not, that's just an unfortunate part of existing in these communities, right? You're going to have to, may have to go through these things. So even if you come out on the other side of it, it's character building. 00:51:03 Speaker 2: You feel a lot stronger. 00:51:04 Speaker 9: Sometimes you're too much for just one nigga. 00:51:06 Speaker 2: Don't take a few to get with me. It's like, yeah, y'all better have jumped me. 00:51:09 Speaker 4: You've never been in a fight? 00:51:11 Speaker 1: Not that I got, I've never been jumped. 00:51:13 Speaker 4: You've never lost a fight? 00:51:14 Speaker 1: No, but I've only been in like two or three. 00:51:17 Speaker 2: Biracial privileges. 00:51:18 Speaker 4: Biracial privileges. 00:51:21 Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? Nah, like, and I just, so I actually used to feel like I had to defend myself because I was light-skinned. 00:51:28 Speaker 4: Biracial. 00:51:28 Speaker 1: And I used to be like, don't let the light-skinned fool you. 00:51:30 Speaker 4: Don't let the biracial fool you. It's fucking funny. 00:51:34 Speaker 1: Nah, I mean, you know what? 00:51:36 Speaker 4: You ever got punched in the face? 00:51:38 Speaker 8: No. 00:51:39 Speaker 2: She's like, Lord, heaven. 00:51:40 Speaker 1: Lord to Betsy. 00:51:42 Speaker 4: Heavens to Betsy. 00:51:45 Speaker 9: That's a little too niggy for me. A little too niggy. 00:51:51 Speaker 2: We can't just fucking talk it out? All that ignorant shit. 00:51:57 Speaker 4: Heavens to Betsy. Let's talk this out. 00:51:59 Speaker 1: Now, this is my problem. For y'all to be sitting here and act like it's a coming of... of age in the black community to get jumped? 00:52:08 Speaker 4: Not in the black community, but from the ghetto. 00:52:10 Speaker 3: What? 00:52:10 Speaker 5: Yeah, you was raised in the ghetto, right? 00:52:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I wasn't fighting. 00:52:15 Speaker 4: You wasn't fighting? 00:52:16 Speaker 1: No, like, first off, I had cousins. 00:52:18 Speaker 2: They went to do it for you. But were they fully black, those cousins? It's also just different from witnessing what gang culture looked like. 00:52:26 Speaker 4: And this also took place. 00:52:27 Speaker 9: In the year that I was born. 00:52:29 Speaker 2: So by the time I got old enough to maybe. 00:52:47 Speaker 1: We were in the 2000s. 00:52:48 Speaker 5: Y'all wasn't squabbling no more. 00:52:49 Speaker 1: Well, also, I'm from Florida, so it was a little different. 00:52:51 Speaker 5: Shit, they be fighting in Florida. 00:52:52 Speaker 1: They do. 00:52:53 Speaker 4: Oh, we scrapped. Kimbo Slices from Florida. 00:52:55 Speaker 2: They scrapped. They scrapped. 00:52:56 Speaker 4: There you go. 00:52:56 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 00:52:57 Speaker 9: They scrapped. 00:52:58 Speaker 2: Those guys. 00:52:58 Speaker 6: But it was interesting watching even the distinction between. 00:53:08 Speaker 1: The music industry, which I want to know how much y'all also had to, because we've had a lot of music industry shows, right? We've had Empire. We've had all of these shows that dig into the depths of the goddamn corruption of music industry. But then the street element of LA, I want to know how much y'all either had an insight of the scene, what it would look like, how they would really talk, because clearly everyone has the West Coast accent. Like all of that. Did y'all have any input on those? But the West Coast. 00:53:40 Speaker 4: Accent, is that too much? That's fire. 00:53:43 Speaker 6: So as a storyteller, right, as one of the main storytellers of the show, right, no matter how you look at it creatively or anything, I think Spelman wasn't clueless. Like he has been in Los Angeles for a long time. And he does have friends that walk the life. So he's been a part of the life. 00:54:01 Speaker 5: He's not. completely voided of the streets, right? He's aware. 00:54:05 Speaker 6: The main guy that brought him aboard and us is a guy named Jimmy Chris, Jim Bob. He's an executive consultant of the show. He's very familiar with the streets. Skip Townsend, Dub C, they're all very familiar with the streets of Los Angeles. Some even older than us, and that's the prime of their lifetime. So for us, it was more or less just making sure we did a lot. We had a lot of say with the streets, but a huge part was the transition from you know, record labels to Street Life. That was like a big part of what we did as well. Like, they had another really great consultant in there, Roy. Roy was an employee and he worked with Death Row pretty much the whole time. 00:54:46 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:54:46 Speaker 6: So we had a lot of really excellent people that had experience and history at the positions. But the writers themselves, like Sal, Sal is from the streets. Sephora, Eli, Mike, Emile. Emile's from Harlem. You know what I'm saying? Like, these, all our team was, they're not totally voided of all of this. 00:55:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seemed real. 00:55:10 Speaker 5: It's very real. Yeah. You talk about the streets, and obviously y'all shot this in L.A., in California, correct? We shot this in the ghetto. So that was going to be my question. 00:55:20 Speaker 7: When you're shooting something like that, what was the

negotiation with the community coming in there, shooting, like, was there anything that had to be worked out so that. 00:55:31 Speaker 5: Everybody understood what was going on. Yeah, did y'all need permission? 00:55:34 Speaker 4: Not permission necessarily, but like... Permission is. 00:55:36 Speaker 1: Like a West Coast... Like, to me, you still... Like, the way we even talk about in rap where rappers need permission or need to check in. Like, that's a thing even when people travel. 00:55:44 Speaker 6: I don't know why do people lie like this is the only thing that happens in Los Angeles, but I entertain people. 00:55:48 Speaker 5: The truth is, the truth is, we had people working on a show that was from the community. 00:55:53 Speaker 2: Right. 00:55:53 Speaker 6: And that was the best thing. That was a continue of John's legacy. Like, the homie Mo from... VNGs, the Vanesses. It's like they were contributing. It wasn't just like, hey, we want to shoot something in your neighborhood and take advantage of the scenery, but hey, man, we want you to come work with the program. 00:56:09 Speaker 2: Rob Markman, Jr.: We're going to use your actual house. 00:56:11 Speaker 4: Rob Markman, Jr. 00:56:11 Speaker 6: Show us exactly how this thing look. How would you actually hang at this time right here? What did the neighborhood look like? 00:56:17 Speaker 4: Rob Markman, Jr. 00:56:18 Speaker 6: So it wasn't like a guy from Watt's perspective on how they hung in his yard. 00:56:23 Speaker 5: It's a guy actually from that exact community. to recreate that real authentic energy of how they was hanging. It was that serious. So it didn't matter which community we went to. That was the goal. 00:56:34 Speaker 6: The goal was to interject some of these people into how was these things happening in this neighborhood. 00:56:40 Speaker 1: Now you talked about his viral clip. 00:56:42 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:56:43 Speaker 1: I have to ask y'all about the other viral clip. 00:56:46 Speaker 5: Oh, you like that? 00:56:47 Speaker 4: That was right up your alley. 00:56:47 Speaker 5: I thought of you when that happened. 00:56:48 Speaker 1: First off, I would, okay. 00:56:49 Speaker 2: I would never. 00:56:51 Speaker 4: She just said she got a lot. 00:56:53 Speaker 7: She just said she got all the hoes, but now she ain't like that. 00:56:57 Speaker 6: You just said you got all the hoes, now you ain't like that. 00:56:59 Speaker 1: We are going to insert the clip here, the one that we're referencing. The Dara clip. 00:57:04 Speaker 4: Is he your man or not? That sounded like Mandy. 00:57:06 Speaker 3: If you were half the man. You know what's so crazy? When I bring this up to not all my women friends. 00:57:10 Speaker 4: That was all Mandy. 00:57:11 Speaker 5: I can't believe she act like that's not her. 00:57:12 Speaker 4: But a lot of women. 00:57:13 Speaker 1: You think I'm going to walk up to a man standing next to another woman like. 00:57:17 Speaker 5: I'm not even think.

00:57:17 Speaker 4: I know you would. 00:57:18 Speaker 1: You want to be with a real woman. 00:57:20 Speaker 3: Well, Dara had information based on her observation that Wanda and this dude was a committal. 00:57:24 Speaker 5: And she kept telling him. 00:57:25 Speaker 4: Was non-committal. So she was like, you know what? I'm going to insert myself. 00:57:28 Speaker 2: She told her in episode two. 00:57:30 Speaker 4: She's like, this is my ex. 00:57:31 Speaker 2: She's like, you're going to do all this for your little girlfriend? Boom. 00:57:33 Speaker 4: She said, no, this is my ex. 00:57:34 Speaker 3: And what do women do when they, my little girl, your little girlfriend, that already mean I'm on it. 00:57:41 Speaker 4: You would do it. You just wouldn't do it that way. Yes, you will, Mandy. That's not even a thought. 00:57:46 Speaker 5: I thought a Mandy wouldn't happen. 00:57:48 Speaker 4: I was like, this is Mandy. 00:57:49 Speaker 1: Yo, we gotta do it. 00:57:50 Speaker 9: We gotta repurpose. 00:57:51 Speaker 2: Oh, fuck that. I'm going for it. 00:57:53 Speaker 3: Yo, we gotta repurpose that scene with Mandy's face. 00:57:56 Speaker 4: That is you, Mandy. 00:57:57 Speaker 1: I would never do such a thing. 00:57:59 Speaker 5: You just said you got little holes in that leg. 00:58:01 Speaker 2: It's crazy that it went viral. 00:58:02 Speaker 1: That it went viral. Like, that specific scene. And the way people are receiving it. 00:58:06 Speaker 2: I said, hey. I said, it's society. 00:58:08 Speaker 4: I said, every. Remember, this takes place then. But also, every series. 00:58:12 Speaker 1: Were women doing that in the 90s? 00:58:13 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Why did I do that now? 00:58:15 Speaker 2: Look, look. 00:58:15 Speaker 3: Every important series, movies, you need that signature or several signature moments. 00:58:21 Speaker 4: And that was one. That was mine. 00:58:22 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, they got one forever. This is 20 years from now. If you don't see it. You remember that moment. 00:58:29 Speaker 2: And what's underrated in that scene, not to cut you off, was Gayle and fucking Isaiah's performance. For them not to say a word, but you feel every. 00:58:40 Speaker 9: It feels so real. 00:58:42 Speaker 2: When she leans on him, when she comes in, and that nigga just keeping a straight face, and he's just smirking. You're getting a little smirk? 00:58:49 Speaker 1: The most he said was, what? 00:58:51 Speaker 4: That's what you get. So they don't talk about this too enough, because that was fucking tough. 00:58:55 Speaker 9: To sit there, cause darn, she delivering. 00:58:59 Speaker 5: Shout out to Alise Shannon. 00:59:01 Speaker 4: Is he your man or not? 00:59:03 Speaker 2: And that's all I had to say. 00:59:04 Speaker 4: I was crying. That's all I had to say. Get in the back, fool. Right. 00:59:08 Speaker 2: And then she got what she wanted. 00:59:10 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that while I'm in. 00:59:12 Speaker 4: You are lying. I've

walked up to him. 00:59:13 Speaker 1: Let's be very clear. I do shoot my shot. 00:59:15 Speaker 4: You for sure shoot your shot. 00:59:16 Speaker 1: I shoot my shot. 00:59:17 Speaker 4: Come on. 00:59:18 Speaker 1: I for sure is crazy. 00:59:19 Speaker 4: You for sure. 00:59:20 Speaker 6: If you reference me in as hoes, you for sure shoot your shot. She just did it at the beginning of the show. 00:59:25 Speaker 5: I got hoes in L.A. 00:59:27 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, you for sure should be... All her roster mans are single. 00:59:31 Speaker 2: What? 00:59:31 Speaker 1: All of what? 00:59:32 Speaker 4: You said your roster, when you go out to LA, you know... They all yours. 00:59:36 Speaker 1: No, they're for everybody. Everybody is for everybody, okay? I'm just saying. 00:59:40 Speaker 4: That's not true, man. 00:59:41 Speaker 1: I don't know if like. 00:59:43 Speaker 4: That's not true. 00:59:44 Speaker 2: I didn't say a word, I'm just listening. 00:59:46 Speaker 1: You don't think y'all are for everybody? 00:59:47 Speaker 8: No. 00:59:49 Speaker 2: Can't nobody just fuck me, are you crazy? 00:59:53 Speaker 5: Morality, moral compass. 00:59:55 Speaker 4: Niggas don't have no standards, huh? 00:59:57 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't believe in girls, girls. I just think that there's a way to approach a man when he's not in the presence of another woman. because that to me you don't like because there's there's girls that'll call the man their bro and then now shit could pop off shit could get nasty like there's still there's still niggas that get claimed by their baby mama every day and a baby mama don't play about theirs okay but sometimes but so to me out of how I know people be delulu in they whatever situation they got going on I ain't walking up to a man. Yeah. 01:00:31 Speaker 2: So, uh-uh. 01:00:31 Speaker 1: I would never. Anyway, she walked. It was just like the. 01:00:34 Speaker 2: Dora gangsta, too. 01:00:35 Speaker 9: Let's not forget this ain't no regular female. 01:00:37 Speaker 1: She's a G. 01:00:40 Speaker 5: Here's an important part about the show, right? 01:00:43 Speaker 6: It really explores a lot of dynamics growing up in our community, right? 01:00:48 Speaker 5: Growing up in, let's say, the ghettos of Los Angeles, right? 01:00:51 Speaker 4: Um. 01:00:52 Speaker 6: Well, you have a person like that who grew up smack dead in the center of the activity. 01:00:57 Speaker 4: Culturally, right? Okay. 01:00:58 Speaker 6: But they're not necessarily a subscriber. She ain't really said, what's up, blood? She don't have to talk like that. It's her everyday thing. 01:01:06 Speaker 4: So her. 01:01:08 Speaker 5: her desire to speak is different. 01:01:10 Speaker 6: She doesn't carry the same fear as the average person. 01:01:14 Speaker 1: Oh, no, facts. 01:01:15 Speaker 4: She is very. 01:01:16 Speaker 1: She had them niggas whoop their ass. 01:01:17 Speaker 4: Right? 01:01:18 Speaker 5: And didn't never say nothing. 01:01:19 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:01:20 Speaker 5: Didn't have to say, just raise the rock eyebrow, the people's eyebrow. 01:01:23 Speaker 1: She had the privilege of being a biracial. 01:01:26 Speaker 4: She had that power. 01:01:27 Speaker 2: Well, she's not biracial. 01:01:28 Speaker 5: She's not biracial. 01:01:28 Speaker 1: What is she? 01:01:29 Speaker 9: They called her a mulatto in the show. 01:01:31 Speaker 2: You're going to see her parents next episode. 01:01:34 Speaker 1: Okay, just the light skins. 01:01:36 Speaker 2: For me, it's just, you know, Creole people. 01:01:37 Speaker 1: Creole, yeah. If you go down the lineage. 01:01:40 Speaker 4: They migrated to the West Coast. 01:01:42 Speaker 1: You know, or the ancestry. You know what happened on the. 01:01:46 Speaker 2: All of that, rapes and shit like that. 01:01:47 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to say it, but yes. 01:01:50 Speaker 6: So for me on the show, I'm a creative consultant. I'm a writer, one of the most important storytellers in the room. And I end up acting on it. 01:01:59 Speaker 5: That was the most important thing. 01:02:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, you did great. 01:02:01 Speaker 6: Thank you. Shout out to Michael T. Shout out to Peyton. Shout out to Macedo in the writing room. 01:02:06 Speaker 5: Dale, all the people. 01:02:07 Speaker 6: That was really giving me really good advice on something I was very intimidated by because I think acting takes a. 01:02:13 Speaker 5: Lot of skill. I took it serious. I had an acting coach. Brandon from Soul Food. 01:02:18 Speaker 1: See, I think that those are some of the easiest roles, though. Is it not easy to play yourself? 01:02:22 Speaker 2: No. 01:02:23 Speaker 4: Hell nah. Fuck no. 01:02:24 Speaker 5: Because it's like nobody playing. Ain't nobody acting. These people serious. 01:02:32 Speaker 6: Like Buddy rode around as artillery day in and day out. Like Gail is probably the closest. 01:02:37 Speaker 5: That could turn it on and turn it off if it was ever off. 01:02:40 Speaker 6: Because I think Gail, especially this version of Wanda, is a lot familiar to her. Isaiah, somebody who really matured, right? 01:02:47 Speaker 5: He was a kid when he came into the show. He's mature. You know, both of these guys, both of them are from Atlanta. 01:02:53 Speaker 6: So just listening to Isaiah talk now versus seeing interviews when He was in. 01:02:57 Speaker 5: Snowfall as his kid. 01:02:59 Speaker 6: Now he gets to input his maturation into this character because Leon's mature. 01:03:04 Speaker 5: So they're not. 01:03:06 Speaker 2: There's no games stepping out there. 01:03:07 Speaker 1: Now, y'all done did a whole bunch of interviews. Can we get a story from on set that you ain't told nobody else? Give us some clues. 01:03:15 Speaker 5: We ain't even talked about one story on set. 01:03:16 Speaker 1: I need a story on set. You didn't... Wait, with nobody? 01:03:19 Speaker 5: Not one person. 01:03:20 Speaker 4: With all the things... No, I did notice that

it was a lot of rap talk. 01:03:23 Speaker 3: Yeah. It sounds like they just wanted to, oh, we got the West Coast niggas and we want to get this shit off our chest. 01:03:28 Speaker 5: That's what it was. 01:03:29 Speaker 4: That's what I saw. What you think about Drake? Drake, Drake, Drake, Drake, Drake, Drake, Drake, Drake. 01:03:33 Speaker 2: I ended that in my last one. 01:03:34 Speaker 5: Yeah, he did. 01:03:35 Speaker 2: My last interview. I don't think I'm going to get an ax no more. Y'all will see. 01:03:38 Speaker 1: Wait, what happened? 01:03:39 Speaker 4: Who was it? 01:03:40 Speaker 8: Baller. 01:03:41 Speaker 4: Baller. 01:03:41 Speaker 1: Wait, he's bad? 01:03:43 Speaker 2: Oh, Ferrari. That wasn't bad. 01:03:44 Speaker 5: It was great. 01:03:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all not going to agree. 01:03:45 Speaker 2: Okay, but what happened? 01:03:46 Speaker 5: I just expressed his position. 01:03:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, my position on the whole take of why y'all keep asking me about a nigga that I don't really know and why I have to like him and I can't like my friend that grew up eight blocks away from me. 01:03:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's weird. 01:04:00 Speaker 2: And why y'all ask me every fucking time like we not on the number one fucking show. 01:04:02 Speaker 5: Listen, the thing is- And. 01:04:04 Speaker 9: We got way other bullshit to talk about. 01:04:06 Speaker 6: To certain fan bases, their whole world- To certain fan bases. 01:04:11 Speaker 2: They use a superior biracial. 01:04:12 Speaker 6: The beige niggas. To certain fan bases. Like their life revolves around it. So they think your life revolves around it. I was talking to somebody that couldn't believe that it didn't mean as much to me as it meant to him. And I'm like, He was like, well, you're doing this. And I'm like, bro, I have the number one, the hottest show on television. Like, Hulu, Disney Plus is number one. Like, I wrote on it. 01:04:35 Speaker 5: I'm consulting in it. 01:04:37 Speaker 6: But they can't see past it because they like, this is the only thing that matters to them. 01:04:41 Speaker 5: They living vicariously through it. To me, it's just. 01:04:44 Speaker 2: I got a story. 01:04:45 Speaker 1: You got a story? 01:04:47 Speaker 2: It's not going to be one you probably like, but I think it's funny. 01:04:49 Speaker 4: Why would I not like it? 01:04:50 Speaker 9: Because I think now that I'm here, I kind of. 01:04:53 Speaker 1: Know where I'm sitting. 01:04:54 Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. I know where I'm sitting. 01:04:59 Speaker 2: My scene that we were shooting, my first day acting like somebody else ever, we fucking shot for about three, four hours, right? It was at the first. 01:05:09 Speaker 3: Okay. 01:05:11 Speaker 2: They gather everybody. I'm like, okay, damn, this is tight. 01:05:13 Speaker 5: We did it. It's fresh. 01:05:15 Speaker 2: She's like, hey, guys. You guys are killing it. Got some good news and some bad news. I was like, what's the bad

news? Oh, yeah. Well, the cards and the cameras don't work. Oh. So, niggas think it's... Wait, y'all just been shooting for... We shoot for three, four hours. Cards and the cameras went bad. And then we was like, oh, the good news must be April Fool's because it's April 1st. 01:05:36 Speaker 9: Oh, it's April Fool's. She's like, no, the good news, you guys are warmed up, so let's get it. 01:05:41 Speaker 6: Shout out to one of the black sisters. 01:05:44 Speaker 2: What was the scene? 01:05:46 Speaker 1: It was a fight scene, right? 01:05:48 Speaker 2: Y'all did this for three. 01:05:51 Speaker 1: To four hours and had to redo it? 01:05:53 Speaker 6: Shout out to Millicent Shelton, one of the black women that directed the episode. Shout out to Nicole. It was so serious. It was like I was like, oh shit. 01:06:06 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 01:06:06 Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie. 01:06:07 Speaker 4: Could you imagine doing two episodes? And the cars fit? I'm a nuke. I'm a nuke. 01:06:13 Speaker 1: If you don't knock on that wood behind you right now. 01:06:15 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you this. Listen. Now, me, I did like this. I'm like, yes. 01:06:22 Speaker 4: I'm like, yes. 01:06:23 Speaker 9: So Cal's able to warm up. 01:06:24 Speaker 2: These are going to be better. That's what I was thinking. 01:06:26 Speaker 9: To the actors, they was like, What the fuck? 01:06:30 Speaker 2: The people, are we going to be over? Because what happens is them three hours cost about $ 200, 000. 01:06:36 Speaker 9: $ 250, 000 each hour. And then you can't really start the next. 01:06:39 Speaker 2: Day until this day is over. It's a 12-hour block before everybody can come back. So what you do is, and all you have to pay is you push the whole week back. Because now you can't, you leave 12 hours off. 01:06:50 Speaker 1: Did somebody get fired? 01:06:52 Speaker 9: No, nobody got fired. 01:06:54 Speaker 6: Shout out to Millicent Shelton because that is one of the greater episodes of Like her shit is killing. Like she has really dope, like Buddy is episode three. Buddy is singing the way she captures black people. She is like the truth. 01:07:09 Speaker 5: So for that to happen, it was very rocky. 01:07:12 Speaker 4: That was fucking crazy. 01:07:13 Speaker 2: But yes, what happened was what you end up seeing was like now me and Peyton got this, we're dialed in. Now I'm actually feeling super comfortable. Like it gets to the point where we done worked out all the kinks. So I had like a four hour dress rehearsal. 01:07:27 Speaker 9: In front of everybody. 01:07:30 Speaker 4: It was a lot of the car. 01:07:31 Speaker 9: Because we were filming it like it was really happening. 01:07:34 Speaker 2: So imagine us all acting our hardest. I'm getting pushed. 01:07:37 Speaker 4: We're swinging. 01:07:38 Speaker 2: Peyton is not a little person. Shout out to my boy Peyton. 01:07:44 Speaker 5: He's not a little guy. 01:07:46 Speaker 4: I've been scrolling through his Instagram. He was pushing me. 01:07:50 Speaker 2: Oh, no. 01:07:50 Speaker 4: I was going to screenshot it. Is he a man or not? Oh, my God. She's going to be in his car now. 01:07:55 Speaker 5: Is he your man or not? 01:07:56 Speaker 2: He's been pushing me around for three hours. No, he got to do it again. 01:08:00 Speaker 1: You should have seen the group chat. I said, who is Glasses bringing with him? 01:08:04 Speaker 6: Is he your man or not? Which one of those guys is Glasses bringing? 01:08:13 Speaker 2: I could have put this damn couch over here and we could have all been chilling. 01:08:17 Speaker 4: Is he your man or not? 01:08:18 Speaker 2: No, I said, no problem. 01:08:22 Speaker 1: Yay. 01:08:24 Speaker 4: That yay was like, but if it was like Peyton, it'd be like, yes. 01:08:28 Speaker 1: Oh, no, Peyton, I would've had a skirt on today. 01:08:30 Speaker 4: Is he your man or not? Then it starts, she would start. Right. 01:08:35 Speaker 2: All pie. 01:08:35 Speaker 7: If you had to act, I thought you was. 01:08:37 Speaker 6: That's when we would've got the Dara line. 01:08:41 Speaker 1: Listen, oh, no, no. Y'all got to calm down with that. 01:08:44 Speaker 5: Y'all got to calm down with that. 01:08:45 Speaker 4: To say all this, is he your man or not, that's what you just did right there. 01:08:48 Speaker 1: What'd I do? 01:08:49 Speaker 5: Right now, just announce it. 01:08:51 Speaker 9: By saying you want to swap me out for the homie Colby? 01:08:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was crazy. Shout out to my boy P, you already knew. P, what's up, baby? 01:08:57 Speaker 1: I did not say I want to swap you out. I just said it. 01:09:00 Speaker 2: Is coming okay I'm not playing with y'all this was great glasses when do you leave uh today. 01:09:08 Speaker 4: Well dang. 01:09:14 Speaker 5: I know. We've been here all week. 01:09:15 Speaker 1: I would have got some drinks with you. 01:09:17 Speaker 5: I don't drink. 01:09:17 Speaker 1: Oh, you don't, but you can watch me drink. I forgot the last time we did iHeart, we all went across the thing. That's right. 01:09:24 Speaker 4: You don't. 01:09:25 Speaker 1: What is your vice? Do you have a vice? 01:09:26 Speaker 4: Sure. 01:09:27 Speaker 1: What is your vice? 01:09:28 Speaker 5: Breathing air. 01:09:29 Speaker 1: Okay. 01:09:30 Speaker 5: Breathing air. 01:09:31 Speaker 1: It is bad out here, especially in L.A. You fly in. 01:09:34 Speaker 4: It's awesome. 01:09:35 Speaker 2: Oh, fuck. 01:09:36 Speaker 4: More L.A. slander. Being that the air you walk in in L.A. 01:09:39 Speaker 1: Is the worst, that is a vice. 01:09:42 Speaker 5: I'm not okay. I'm not going to L.A. 01:09:45 Speaker 4: With me. 01:09:45 Speaker 2: New York's pretty bad. 01:09:46 Speaker 1: No, it is pretty bad. 01:09:48 Speaker 5: Listen, I love all the air. 01:09:50 Speaker 2: Okay. 01:09:50 Speaker 5: All the white man's air. 01:09:51 Speaker 1: All the white man's air is crazy. 01:09:55 Speaker 5: All the white man's air. 01:09:56 Speaker

1: Well, technically in Watts, it's not white man's air. 01:09:59 Speaker 2: Man. 01:09:59 Speaker 5: They're not over there. It is true. But they probably charge us for the air. 01:10:05 Speaker 4: No. 01:10:06 Speaker 6: No, we've been here all week. We still got more places to go. We got to spread the gospel. of this show. 01:10:14 Speaker 1: Are you enjoying doing all this talking on pods? Is this, cause I know this is, you do this on your YouTube. You have, you're a cousin. 01:10:21 Speaker 6: You're on the Black Effect Network. I got the No Ceilings podcast. I stream just to promote the No Ceilings podcast. I stream with the lunch hour. 01:10:28 Speaker 1: And then everybody be having you. You be getting passed around on the pods now. 01:10:32 Speaker 6: Yo, man. 01:10:32 Speaker 2: Whoa. 01:10:33 Speaker 4: Passed around. Damn. 01:10:35 Speaker 5: Is he your man or not? 01:10:39 Speaker 4: Is he your man or not? Why is she acting like she's not dark? 01:10:43 Speaker 2: Right. It's been fun. I mean, this is one of my friends. It's really us. I've been knowing dude for 21 years, man. Like, this is like, we talk every morning anyway. I think I'm having more fun just watching him be outside. If you want to ask me, is this a thing that I do? No. 01:10:57 Speaker 1: No, do you enjoy doing it? 01:10:58 Speaker 2: No, I'm having a fucking blast because I'm just going to make sure before I do something and after I already got some fun shit set up. Before I did Drink Champs, I fucking was jet skiing for an hour. I'm going to make sure I live while I'm outside. 01:11:11 Speaker 1: While you're outside. 01:11:12 Speaker 9: So that's what's been fun. 01:11:13 Speaker 2: I got to go to one of your amazing strip clubs here. Pussy was walking past me as I was playing spades. 01:11:19 Speaker 5: I was eating chicken wings and spades. 01:11:20 Speaker 2: Which is tight. 01:11:21 Speaker 1: You were playing spades at the strip club? 01:11:23 Speaker 4: No pasties, alcohol, and pussy in the same room. 01:11:24 Speaker 2: Where did you go to? 01:11:25 Speaker 5: It was a cheese. Y'all go to cheese. 01:11:26 Speaker 2: I mean, look. Cheetah. Yeah, Isaiah took me to Cheetah. 01:11:29 Speaker 4: That's where we were. That's where all of this happened. 01:11:32 Speaker 1: That's where all of this happened was at Cheetah. 01:11:34 Speaker 2: Somebody loved the drop and was sending me dances all night. 01:11:39 Speaker 1: I love that. 01:11:40 Speaker 6: We was in Tim's studio and somebody started talking about the drop and he was just, we didn't quite tell him that we worked on the show. 01:11:47 Speaker 5: He was just telling us his thoughts and how he felt like it was so authentic. 01:11:50 Speaker 2: So it was real refreshing to hear and listen to the people. The love that the show was getting and You know, he won't say it, but, you know, they like to talk shit about what he don't do. They think he just talks about fucking Kendrick and Drake all fucking day. So

I love a good I told you so moment. We've been working on this for like a year and a half. So we were just cracking up. Oh, you don't do shit. 01:12:10 Speaker 4: You ain't got shit. 01:12:11 Speaker 6: I be hearing all kind of shit, man. I'll be just. But I get it, man. 01:12:15 Speaker 2: I know. 01:12:15 Speaker 1: They need to save the meat glasses. You know, you just got to let them talk. Got to let them hate. 01:12:20 Speaker 5: Man, it's all good. I deserve haters. 01:12:22 Speaker 1: I know that's right. We all deserve haters. 01:12:24 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? 01:12:26 Speaker 1: I deserve haters. 01:12:27 Speaker 5: Even if it's his guys, I deserve haters. 01:12:30 Speaker 1: I will say, over the last year, though, I have been seeing more people appreciate your takes on things and appreciating your voice being one of the many in this space on culture, on music, on... everything happening in the streets. Like, so I've, I've been hearing your praises, uh, amongst the masses. You also were just talking to one of my favorite coming in here. I hear Joe talk. Like you get a lot of love now. 01:12:54 Speaker 5: No, no. 01:12:55 Speaker 4: I always really did. 01:12:56 Speaker 5: Um, it's okay. 01:12:58 Speaker 6: Like I don't, I don't even, I don't think we supposed to say stuff that everybody like, I agree, especially if you're being honest. So as long as I can stay pure and, and be honest with what I think I'll be fine. The first day, I can't, you know, then it's over. I ain't even living no more. So I do thank God for the show and the ability to like take my storytelling to like a really special level. 01:13:22 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? 01:13:22 Speaker 6: Because shout out to Emile Spellman and Jim. They're really pushing me as a storyteller. And even today, I was supposed to talk about, you know, how how important I was in telling this story. But I'm just having so much fun with a friend that I've known for 21 years. 01:13:38 Speaker 2: That's been the best part. I think that's the best part. Walking around, talking shit, and having a good time. 01:13:42 Speaker 5: Just clowning, man. 01:13:43 Speaker 2: But we would still want the Emmy, though. 01:13:45 Speaker 5: That's the thing. 01:13:46 Speaker 4: How about that? 01:13:46 Speaker 5: That's another thing. 01:13:47 Speaker 9: I'm not turning down none of that type of play. 01:13:50 Speaker 6: So just in case, please, you are thinking about it, this show definitely deserves an Emmy. 01:13:56 Speaker 4: Emmy consideration, nomination, make it happen. 01:13:58 Speaker 5: Hold it. Hold it. 01:14:00 Speaker 1: Hello, Manifest. 01:14:01 Speaker 4: We got to do that. 01:14:04 Speaker 7: And I'm glad that y'all said that, too, because we know these award shows have gotten polarizing over the last year about, does this shit really matter? 01:14:12 Speaker 4: Does it validate? 01:14:12 Speaker 5: Does it matter? 01:14:13 Speaker 2: It does matter. 01:14:14 Speaker 7: But it's like, for people that put in the work, it's not about, and I don't want to speak for y'all, but it doesn't sound like it's about validation. 01:14:19 Speaker 4: It's about, I bust my ass for this. 01:14:21 Speaker 7: This is a good product, and we should be recognized along with anybody else that y'all put out there for public accolades. 01:14:27 Speaker 6: Man, did you see episode five where that lady is singing in that house? 01:14:33 Speaker 5: Where the man is singing in that house? Manny hasn't seen this yet, I don't think. 01:14:35 Speaker 1: What I ain't seen? 01:14:36 Speaker 5: Episode five. 01:14:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't be spoiling shit for me. 01:14:38 Speaker 4: I know, I don't want to spoil it, but- It's a lady. 01:14:40 Speaker 5: It's a singing performance. 01:14:41 Speaker 1: I just got to spoil it. 01:14:42 Speaker 5: We're not going to spoil it. 01:14:42 Speaker 4: No, no. Yeah, it's not a spoiler. 01:14:44 Speaker 5: This is not a spoiler. 01:14:45 Speaker 6: It's a singing performance in episode five, which would be Lamar and James' mom. 01:14:51 Speaker 4: And she's singing in the house. 01:14:52 Speaker 2: Powerful. 01:14:53 Speaker 6: And when I tell you, it's probably- one of the greatest things I've saw on television in a long time. 01:15:00 Speaker 4: Where I like, I felt, you know, it was hard. 01:15:03 Speaker 6: Like you could tell how much soul has been removed from the world because it made, like I was listening to the brother from Philly talk about it yesterday, how uncomfortable everybody is because of this much soul. 01:15:13 Speaker 5: Like everybody's been on a vibe for so long. 01:15:15 Speaker 4: Vibe, vibe, vibe. 01:15:17 Speaker 5: The world has been watered down for the last 16, 17 years. 01:15:20 Speaker 6: I know why, but 16, 17 years, Because everybody's been chasing Vi. And then here's something now that's presenting soul, a connection to all of us that feels very familiar. And when I'm telling you that lady is singing in that episode five, that might be like one of the best things I've seen on television. 01:15:39 Speaker 1: It's crazy because I love how music kind of in a spiritual way does that because even to this day when people talk about sinners, which did win a lot of awards, it's that one scene where everyone's dancing through all of the different you know, parallel of a black art. 01:15:57 Speaker 4: The scene that he's talking about is like that. To me, it was that level of. 01:16:01 Speaker 9: Like, oh, shit. 01:16:02 Speaker 4: So if that's on the screen, then this is the television. 01:16:05 Speaker 1: The television version of that. 01:16:08 Speaker 6: I'm glad he's singing on the set and everybody is just like, I don't care if it's a white, you know, audio man. Shout out to my man Gerard. Shout out to All the Warren and Chuck and all the special effects. Got every last person there. When that lady was singing that song in that fucking house, you just remember something that you

ain't felt in a long time. 01:16:28 Speaker 5: And I think that's the point of the drop. 01:16:30 Speaker 6: You remember something that you haven't felt in a very long time when you see us. And that was the most important thing because our lives have gotten better in America. 01:16:39 Speaker 4: Oddly. 01:16:40 Speaker 6: Even though it's still fucked up, right? 01:16:41 Speaker 4: So we see black people. 01:16:43 Speaker 6: In film and Hollywood where they don't even really have, it looks like there's nothing going wrong in their life. 01:16:48 Speaker 5: Everything is perfect. There is no oppression they have to deal with. 01:16:50 Speaker 6: Like, I watch Why Did I Get Married, the Tyler Perry film, which I know people don't like. 01:16:55 Speaker 5: I like it. 01:16:56 Speaker 4: But if you look at it, like, everything is going good. 01:16:57 Speaker 2: I was terrible. 01:16:57 Speaker 4: It's miserable. 01:16:58 Speaker 5: I actually like it. 01:16:59 Speaker 1: Them people are miserable together. Oh, my God. I don't want not now one of them motherfucking couples. I don't want that relationship. I don't want that dynamic. 01:17:07 Speaker 6: I'm just saying, like, their problems are so... You know, it's very much in America where it's like they're succeeding. 01:17:13 Speaker 5: Everything's good. So it's good to watch. 01:17:16 Speaker 4: They're succeeding. 01:17:16 Speaker 2: In misery. 01:17:18 Speaker 1: That's marriage, though. Let's not. 01:17:20 Speaker 4: Let's not. Glasses. 01:17:21 Speaker 1: Can you tell the people where to listen to you and your breakdown on why did I get married? 01:17:25 Speaker 5: Watch me on the drop. 01:17:27 Speaker 6: Watch my storytelling on the drop every. 01:17:32 Speaker 5: Tuesday at 9 if this comes out this week. 01:17:35 Speaker 4: Okay. 01:17:35 Speaker 1: It will be. 01:17:36 Speaker 4: Okay. 01:17:37 Speaker 5: So Tuesday at 9 p.m. 01:17:37 Speaker 4: On FX. 01:17:39 Speaker 6: Or Hulu, Disney +, all episodes there. Say, subscribe, all that, because we're trying to do some dope stuff. No Ceilings Podcast. Shout out to Black Effect. Shout out to C, Dolly, the whole team. 01:17:50 Speaker 5: iHeart, everybody. And Lunch Hour. You can find me. 01:17:54 Speaker 1: And problem, where can they slide in your DMs and support you? 01:17:57 Speaker 4: Oh, no, no. 01:17:58 Speaker 1: It starts. 01:18:00 Speaker 4: Is he your man or not? It starts. 01:18:03 Speaker 2: For business. 01:18:04 Speaker 4: Is he your man or not? 01:18:06 Speaker 1: Is he your man or not? 01:18:09 Speaker 4: Happy family life. 01:18:11 Speaker 9: I don't want any smoke. 01:18:14 Speaker 4: Is he your man or not? 01:18:16 Speaker 9: And I'm not the easiest light bulb in the box. 01:18:19 Speaker 2: Okay, just screw me. 01:18:21 Speaker 1: Don't shoot your shot, he said, even for business inquiry. 01:18:23 Speaker 5: Is he your man or not? 01:18:25 Speaker 2: Mandy D. 01:18:26 Speaker 4: Mandy Darman. Mandy Darman. 01:18:28 Speaker 2: Just hit me on my socials, Problem354 on all of them. Like he said, he likes to say I'm Googleable. 01:18:33 Speaker 4: He's very Googleable. Problem354. I just like Jason Martin, man. 01:18:36 Speaker 2: Look it up, but please continue to watch The Drop. Please... continue to support the drive we have a soundtrack dropping at the end of the finale I love that. 01:18:45 Speaker 1: I hope y'all worked out better splits than Terrence. 01:18:48 Speaker 4: Howard did what happened with Terrence Howard's split? 01:18:50 Speaker 1: He don't get none of the ones from Custle & Flow. 01:18:53 Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't write nothing. 01:18:55 Speaker 4: He didn't write nothing. 01:18:55 Speaker 1: But not even as nothing on it. 01:18:57 Speaker 4: Nothing at all? 01:18:58 Speaker 5: He got nothing. 01:18:58 Speaker 4: He talks about it. 01:18:59 Speaker 2: But he didn't write nothing. 01:19:00 Speaker 5: Does he feel like he missed something? 01:19:02 Speaker 1: No, I think as the performer, though. Juicy J wrote all that shit, I believe. 01:19:06 Speaker 6: I wonder if Terrence Howard thought to himself, like, man, this finna be this classic film. 01:19:10 Speaker 5: I cannot believe he read the. 01:19:11 Speaker 1: I don't think he knew. 01:19:11 Speaker 5: There's no way he read the hustle of the full script, man. 01:19:14 Speaker 1: I don't know if he knew that. 01:19:15 Speaker 6: There's no way he read the hustle of the full script and was like, man, this shit finna be crazy. 01:19:19 Speaker 2: He should get performing royalties, though. 01:19:21 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 01:19:21 Speaker 1: He gets none of that, however his contract work. Look it up. He been complaining about it for years. 01:19:25 Speaker 4: Shout out to Terrence Howard. 01:19:26 Speaker 5: He killed that shit. 01:19:27 Speaker 2: Terrence Howard, hit me, man. 01:19:28 Speaker 5: I got a great lawyer, man. 01:19:29 Speaker 6: You might be able to shake that up for me. It's time to bring you to the drop anyway. 01:19:32 Speaker 2: I'm fucking around. 01:19:34 Speaker 1: Well, y'all, thank y'all so much. You already know it's another episode of Selective Ignorance, baby, where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter. See y'all next week. 01:19:45 Speaker 2: Go biracials, go. 01:19:46 Speaker 1: Oh, my. 01:19:48 Speaker 4: Biracials. 01:19:50 Speaker 2: That's you. 01:19:50 Speaker 4: That's a joke. 01:19:52 Speaker 2: That's you. 01:19:53 Speaker 1: That's what you said. Go by Rachel Go is insane. Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 01:20:09 Speaker 8: Thanks for tuning in to Selective Ignorance with Mandy B. 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