התמלול המלא של Episode 125 SNME Predictions and Vince Mcmahon Bracket

guess Triple H released a 85 00:07:27.949 --> 00:07:29.529 version where it was on Blurred. 86 00:07:29.569 --> 00:07:31.930 Yeah, he tweeted it out, I believe. 87 00:07:33.269 --> 00:07:39.360 Released the Triple H cut. I saw a meme. 88 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:41.079 It wasn't even graphic or anything. 89 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:46.079 It wasn't like blood spurting. 90 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:46.279 Right. 91 00:07:46.300 --> 00:07:47.120 I saw a meme today. 92 00:07:52.339 --> 00:07:56.500 That showed some of the bloody moments in the Attitude Era, 93 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:58.680 but they were blurred out. And it's like, imagine if 94 00:07:58.699 --> 00:08:02.449 Netflix had their hands on the Attitude Era. Like, holy crap. 95 00:08:02.569 --> 00:08:04.449 I mean, right away, as soon as I saw it, 96 00:08:04.449 --> 00:08:07.470 I was like, ugh, what is this? I was like, 97 00:08:07.490 --> 00:08:15.240 come on. Like, how disappointing this was. So, I had 98 00:08:15.300 --> 00:08:17.519 that to start off my Monday Night Raw, so that's 99 00:08:17.540 --> 00:08:19.500 a great way to start it off. But, you know, 100 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:22.670 great way to end it. I don't know about you guys, 101 00:08:22.709 --> 00:08:26.850 but I thoroughly enjoyed the Penta vs. Rey Fenix match. 102 00:08:26.889 --> 00:08:32.590 We finally got in WWE. They found a way to 103 00:08:33.590 --> 00:08:36.610 keep these guys separate for quite some time in the company. 104 00:08:36.629 --> 00:08:38.350 And I was kind of happy about it because they 105 00:08:38.830 --> 00:08:42.639 built themselves up. Even in the Rumble, they found a 106 00:08:42.669 --> 00:08:45.220 way to keep them separated. They would have one of 107 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:46.840 them eliminated before the other one showed up. 108 00:08:47.820 --> 00:08:47.960 So. 109 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:50.500 They avoided each other in, I think, King of the 110 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:56.570 Ring tournaments. Anything else that involved Brands Crossing leading up 111 00:08:56.610 --> 00:08:59.950 to this. And I think, I don't know about you guys, 112 00:08:59.970 --> 00:09:03.250 but when I saw the bracket laid out for this 113 00:09:03.370 --> 00:09:08.769 AAA tournament, I was like, oh, that's for sure, Penta. 114 00:09:08.870 --> 00:09:09.289 Obviously. 115 00:09:09.850 --> 00:09:10.769 Yes, obviously. 116 00:09:11.009 --> 00:09:11.149 But. 117 00:09:11.980 --> 00:09:13.059 how he got there. 118 00:09:13.620 --> 00:09:15.980 The thing is, it feels like, it feels like an 119 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.269 in case of emergency break glass kind of thing. 120 00:09:18.309 --> 00:09:19.929 And I don't feel like there's an emergency. 121 00:09:20.450 --> 00:09:20.710 Right. 122 00:09:22.190 --> 00:09:22.429 Yeah. 123 00:09:22.529 --> 00:09:24.490 You know, like I kind of feel like I wish 124 00:09:24.509 --> 00:09:28.190 there had been like more of a, a story, you know, 125 00:09:28.450 --> 00:09:29.049 leading into them. 126 00:09:29.149 --> 00:09:30.710 It was a fine match. Don't get me wrong. 127 00:09:31.289 --> 00:09:34.120 Um, but I feel like, I feel like if you're 128 00:09:34.129 --> 00:09:36.320 going to, you know, make such a, or you're going 129 00:09:36.340 --> 00:09:40.080 to finally do the Lucha brother match, uh, I feel like. 130 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:43.559 It should have had more build-up than just because match. 131 00:09:43.590 --> 00:09:43.879 You know? 132 00:09:45.750 --> 00:09:47.690 But I think this is like the fifth or sixth 133 00:09:48.169 --> 00:09:50.690 promotion they fought in now, I think. 134 00:09:50.809 --> 00:09:53.789 I saw a thing. It was like they fought in AEW. 135 00:09:53.809 --> 00:09:58.190 They fought in probably Ring of Honor. They fought in MLW. 136 00:09:58.230 --> 00:10:02.159 They fought in WWE. Underground Now WWE. 137 00:10:02.440 --> 00:10:05.220 This is like the fifth or sixth different promotion they 138 00:10:05.259 --> 00:10:07.440 fought in, which is kind of a fun little stat. 139 00:10:08.139 --> 00:10:08.500 Yeah. 140 00:10:09.330 --> 00:10:10.570 Yeah. For real. 141 00:10:10.769 --> 00:10:13.110 I'm okay with it the way it went down. I mean, 142 00:10:14.330 --> 00:10:16.330 could it have been on a bigger platform or a 143 00:10:16.330 --> 00:10:19.610 bigger stage like a PLE of some sort? Sure. But 144 00:10:20.350 --> 00:10:22.429 for what it was and for where the both of 145 00:10:22.490 --> 00:10:25.960 them are at in their career, at least within WWE, 146 00:10:26.309 --> 00:10:29.490 you know, having this match being the finals of a 147 00:10:29.529 --> 00:10:33.120 tournament for a world title shot against Roman Reigns, and 148 00:10:33.139 --> 00:10:35.139 they at least made it the main event of Raw, 149 00:10:35.659 --> 00:10:37.860 and didn't pull some bullshit like, oh, it's going to 150 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:40.200 kick off the second hour or something like that, you know. 151 00:10:41.460 --> 00:10:43.860 I think that's, I think it was appropriate. And obviously 152 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:49.539 the match itself, it was top notch. Like, it's, it 153 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:51.159 could be a dark, I'm not saying it is match 154 00:10:51.220 --> 00:10:53.519 of the year candidate, but it could be in a conversation. 155 00:10:53.899 --> 00:10:55.539 When we talk about some of the best matches that 156 00:10:55.580 --> 00:10:58.419 have taken place this year, I think this match could 157 00:10:58.500 --> 00:10:59.899 easily come up in that conversation. 158 00:10:59.919 --> 00:11:05.850 Okay. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. This is like when you, 159 00:11:05.870 --> 00:11:08.230 we're going to put aside and, you know, let's put 160 00:11:08.269 --> 00:11:10.750 a pin in this one when it comes to giving 161 00:11:10.850 --> 00:11:14.009 our slammy awards at the end of the year. For sure. 162 00:11:14.029 --> 00:11:17.529 I want to come back to this, watch this match again. 163

00:11:21.429 --> 00:11:24.490 What else is going on in the wrestling world? We 164 00:11:24.509 --> 00:11:29.169 finally got Acme vs. Coyote, which John. 165 00:11:28.990 --> 00:11:29.590 Cena is in. 166 00:11:30.429 --> 00:11:37.279 Movie was filmed in, I believe, 2022. Finally released in 2026. 167 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:43.419 Bought by Ketchup Entertainment. I went and saw it. I 168 00:11:43.700 --> 00:11:48.870 got early access to go see it. Pretty good. I 169 00:11:49.029 --> 00:11:51.110 enjoy it. I like John Cena in it. You know, 170 00:11:51.129 --> 00:11:53.100 he played a lawyer. You got to see John Cena 171 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:53.960 wear a cowboy hat. 172 00:11:54.500 --> 00:11:54.740 You know? 173 00:11:54.759 --> 00:12:01.399 It looked very JBL-ish. Kind of funny. But, yeah, I 174 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.690 enjoyed it. I don't know if we brought this up 175 00:12:05.750 --> 00:12:09.990 last episode, but Dave Bautista being cast as Kratos in 176 00:12:10.409 --> 00:12:16.580 the new God of War TV show. You know, What 177 00:12:16.659 --> 00:12:20.149 I see everywhere Everywhere I go Every post I see 178 00:12:20.870 --> 00:12:23.570 In the comments This guy needs to put on weight 179 00:12:23.669 --> 00:12:26.350 This guy needs to start working out This guy needs 180 00:12:26.370 --> 00:12:30.590 to hit the gym You know Because in our minds 181 00:12:31.549 --> 00:12:33.879 This is what we envision This is who we had 182 00:12:33.899 --> 00:12:38.299 in the video games This large man playing a character 183 00:12:38.340 --> 00:12:41.480 You know It's a lot of work. 184 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:42.940 To be that big It is. 185 00:12:43.179 --> 00:12:44.139 It is a lot of work. 186 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:47.750 Especially, I mean, and Dave's no spring chicken anymore. 187 00:12:47.830 --> 00:12:50.029 I mean, he's well into. 188 00:12:49.830 --> 00:12:51.470 His 50s at this point, I think, right? 189 00:12:51.570 --> 00:12:52.350 Right, right, right. 190 00:12:52.370 --> 00:12:54.590 So, like, fuck, let him. I mean, Jesus Christ. 191 00:12:55.570 --> 00:12:56.110 Yeah. 192 00:12:56.149 --> 00:12:58.570 Like, let him look how he wants to fucking look, 193 00:12:58.789 --> 00:12:59.190 you know? 194 00:12:59.809 --> 00:13:06.679 Yeah. Have you guys, did you guys catch the AEW PLE, 195 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:08.059 the last ones they had? 196 00:13:11.179 --> 00:13:14.759 Oh, yeah. I caught some of it. I didn't catch 197 00:13:14.820 --> 00:13:16.899 all of it, but I caught some of it. 198 00:13:16.940 --> 00:13:20.970 Yeah, the highlights of it. The biggest one, I guess, 199 00:13:21.019 --> 00:13:25.409 is the New Day going over to AEW, which we 200 00:13:25.450 --> 00:13:34.889 know we all predicted. It's great. I'm finding out now 201 00:13:35.029 --> 00:13:37.870 that they were definitely offered 50% in WWE, 50% less 202 00:13:37.889 --> 00:13:44.389 than their pay was. take it or leave it. 203 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.700 Mind you, this was shortly after they had just signed 204 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:51.639 new contracts, like months after signing new contracts. 205 00:13:52.830 --> 00:13:54.279 Yeah. 206 00:13:54.299 --> 00:13:58.029 TKO or WWE came to them and asked them to 207 00:13:58.070 --> 00:13:59.429 take a 50% pay cut. 208 00:14:00.090 --> 00:14:00.389 Yeah. 209 00:14:01.750 --> 00:14:03.309 Don't blame them one bit for walking. 210 00:14:03.870 --> 00:14:09.750 Nope, not at all, dude. Not at all. They team 211 00:14:09.850 --> 00:14:14.019 up with Swerve Strickland who also was a former WWE wrestler. 212 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:20.159 Seeing the three of them together, they're not called the 213 00:14:20.220 --> 00:14:25.639 New Day anymore. What are they called now? The Next Level. 214 00:14:26.379 --> 00:14:26.820 Genius. 215 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:33.009 I like it. What were some of the other matches 216 00:14:33.049 --> 00:14:36.710 that we saw? I believe another former WWE wrestler won 217 00:14:36.750 --> 00:14:41.330 a title. Is that right? I didn't get to pull 218 00:14:41.470 --> 00:14:49.330 up I think we saw Jon Moxley still retain the championship. 219 00:14:49.549 --> 00:14:51.470 I think Andrade won something, didn't he? 220 00:14:51.570 --> 00:15:00.139 Andrade? Oh, yeah. I saw that Kenny Omega beat Will Ospreay. 221 00:15:00.259 --> 00:15:00.559 Oh, yeah. 222 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:08.639 Ospreay defeated Kenny Omega to become AEW world champion. Yeah, yeah. 223 00:15:08.659 --> 00:15:10.289 It was a fucking phenomenal match. 224 00:15:10.789 --> 00:15:11.710 Yeah, yeah. 225 00:15:13.100 --> 00:15:16.679 That whole presentation was great. 226 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:21.080 Unfortunately, the two things I wanted to see most in 227 00:15:21.100 --> 00:15:23.330 that show are the matches that I did not catch, 228 00:15:23.379 --> 00:15:27.909 and that was Willow Nightingale versus Mercedes Monet, which Mercedes 229 00:15:27.970 --> 00:15:33.289 won to become AEW Women's Champion and the Osprey Omega match. 230 00:15:34.629 --> 00:15:36.490 Those were the two best matches of the night. 231 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:40.539 Yeah, and I missed them, especially the Osprey Kenny Omega, 232 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:43.450 because that on paper... Yeah, it's amazing. Match of the 233 00:15:43.490 --> 00:15:46.169 year candidate. So I'm going to go back and find 234 00:15:46.230 --> 00:15:49.909 it online and watch it. Right. Yeah, yeah. 235 00:15:50.409 --> 00:15:53.370 It looks like Britt Baker has returned to AEW. She's 236 00:15:53.389 --> 00:15:54.289 been gone for a minute. 237 00:15:54.970 --> 00:15:55.690 Yeah. 238 00:15:56.460 --> 00:15:57.000 Yeah. 239 00:15:57.129 --> 00:15:57.559 Two years. 240 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:00.799 Yeah, wow. That is a long time to be gone. 241 00:16:00.820 --> 00:16:05.740 You know, definitely being gone that long makes you really question, 242 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:08.580 you know, if she was coming back or she was

243 00:16:08.820 --> 00:16:14.049 looking to sign with WWE or You know, I don't 244 00:16:14.230 --> 00:16:16.990 believe she's with Adam Cole anymore. I don't think they're 245 00:16:17.149 --> 00:16:21.500 an item. So I always, you know, assume, and we 246 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:24.740 always assume in wrestling as marks that, you know, couples 247 00:16:24.779 --> 00:16:29.840 go together everywhere, and that's not always the case. I 248 00:16:29.860 --> 00:16:34.250 think it was El Idolo versus MJF. I think that's 249 00:16:34.330 --> 00:16:39.129 the match that they had. Casino gauntlet match. For a 250 00:16:39.169 --> 00:16:40.629 guaranteed world title shot. 251 00:16:40.649 --> 00:16:42.399 It was a multi-person match. 252 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:48.299 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, there's that. So, that's if you 253 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:50.899 want to check out what's going on on the AEW side. 254 00:16:53.590 --> 00:16:54.019 But yeah. 255 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:58.769 I'll say this. Go ahead. Right about now, this is 256 00:16:58.809 --> 00:17:03.490 probably the most interested I've been in AEW in a while. 257 00:17:03.570 --> 00:17:09.819 With the arrival of New Day and Well, when Will 258 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:14.339 O'Neill becoming champion, which is now has been yielded to 259 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.380 Mercedes Monet. I'm not saying I'm tuning in every week, 260 00:17:18.950 --> 00:17:20.650 but this is probably about the closest I've gotten to 261 00:17:20.690 --> 00:17:25.450 being like, especially compared to, you know, the very much 262 00:17:25.630 --> 00:17:28.589 up and down that WWE is right now. It's about 263 00:17:28.630 --> 00:17:31.279 as close as I've gotten to being like, let me 264 00:17:31.339 --> 00:17:34.279 turn on that dynamite and see what they talking about. Okay. 265 00:17:35.009 --> 00:17:39.519 They have ups and downs also they go through periods 266 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:42.460 where the product isn't fucking really good and then it's 267 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:45.240 not so good for a few months and I agree 268 00:17:45.259 --> 00:17:47.940 with you they're on an upward. 269 00:17:47.660 --> 00:17:52.380 Trajectory right right everything is definitely cyclical as we all 270 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.990 know in wrestling but you know when they have their 271 00:17:56.190 --> 00:18:00.589 ups are they up enough to draw in new viewers 272 00:18:01.329 --> 00:18:05.539 because that's what grows your company well yeah When you 273 00:18:05.650 --> 00:18:07.859 are up, when you are hot, when you are cooking, 274 00:18:08.420 --> 00:18:13.220 especially if your competition is a bit down, can you 275 00:18:13.259 --> 00:18:16.680 be up enough to bring in those new viewers? That's 276 00:18:16.700 --> 00:18:20.769 how WWE won the Monday Night War. WCW's products started 277 00:18:20.789 --> 00:18:24.950 to go down and WWE or WWF got hot as 278 00:18:24.990 --> 00:18:27.769 hell at just the right time with just the right 279 00:18:27.809 --> 00:18:31.369 person to capture that audience and bring them on over. 280 00:18:32.569 --> 00:18:35.430 Make everybody flip that channel from TNT over to USA. 281 00:18:36.779 --> 00:18:38.619 Not saying that this is the case with AEW or 282 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:41.900 that they're going to do anything like that. But I 283 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:44.799 think there is a window now for them to pull in, 284 00:18:44.819 --> 00:18:49.829 to potentially pull in some new viewers. And they're going 285 00:18:49.849 --> 00:18:53.369 to be in town here in like two weeks. And 286 00:18:53.410 --> 00:18:55.130 I'm strongly considering going. 287 00:18:55.150 --> 00:18:58.009 Yeah. 288 00:19:01.789 --> 00:19:03.509 I wonder how much tickets are going for those. Probably 289 00:19:03.549 --> 00:19:05.170 a lot cheaper than WWE, huh? 290 00:19:06.329 --> 00:19:10.470 Fuck yeah. Most expensive seats, like front row, are only 291 00:19:10.509 --> 00:19:13.609 like $ 700. 292 00:19:12.150 --> 00:19:12.450 Right. 293 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:17.640 That's front row VIP package seats, which is including like, 294 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:24.859 I think, concierge service of some sort, an early pre-show 295 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:26.839 VIP thing where I guess you get to meet some 296 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.680 AEW stars and other merch and stuff you get to 297 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:35.599 take home. And those packages are $ 400 for like second 298 00:19:35.619 --> 00:19:40.480 row seats, $ 700 for front row seats at the arena 299 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:44.400 that it's going to be held at. That's a fraction 300 00:19:44.420 --> 00:19:49.049 of what WWE would charge. And that would be for 301 00:19:49.089 --> 00:19:51.549 just the seat, probably nothing. not even much else of 302 00:19:51.589 --> 00:19:55.549 a package and then seats not too far back from 303 00:19:55.569 --> 00:19:58.990 that are in the still good quality seats are in 304 00:19:59.009 --> 00:20:05.079 the 100 to 200 range so yeah way more affordable. 305 00:20:06.450 --> 00:20:09.710 Yeah, and probably less ads that have to sit through 306 00:20:09.730 --> 00:20:14.490 when you watch it. Less, probably, ads in the ring. 307 00:20:14.710 --> 00:20:17.710 There's no, probably, any on the mat or on the turnbuckles. 308 00:20:19.529 --> 00:20:21.150 I bet you could see blood and they wouldn't blur 309 00:20:21.190 --> 00:20:21.470 it out. 310 00:20:23.619 --> 00:20:24.140 But, you know. 311 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:28.380 Yeah, you're going to start turning me off, WWE. I'm 312 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:34.299 going to start turning the fucking channel. Like, seriously. Anyway, 313 00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:42.509 moving on. I think this is the 46th Saturday night 314 00:20:42.549 --> 00:20:45.690 main event. This one is scratched off as I made 315 00:20:45.730 --> 00:20:49.549 into a Sunday. It looks like the pattern we're going 316 00:20:49.589 --> 00:20:55.299 is almost

every two months we get a Saturday night, 317 00:20:55.900 --> 00:21:00.440 Sunday night PLE. I'm trying to think the last time 318 00:21:00.460 --> 00:21:05.839 we had a Sunday. I don't know if that's... I 319 00:21:05.859 --> 00:21:09.599 think it's four, yeah. And I was wondering why, and 320 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:13.079 it's taking place in Atlanta, Georgia. My only guess is 321 00:21:13.099 --> 00:21:16.579 it's the holiday. You know? Maybe that has something to 322 00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:20.079 do with it. Yeah, so Atlanta, Georgia and the State 323 00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:26.509 Farm Arena. Before this, we had NXT Heat Wave. And 324 00:21:26.549 --> 00:21:32.109 then after this, we have another Worlds Collide. And then 325 00:21:32.369 --> 00:21:34.470 we're going to finally get some money in the bank. 326 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:37.940 And that's going to be juicy. Juicy, I tell you. 327 00:21:39.299 --> 00:21:41.730 Well, NXT Heat Wave did happen. It just happened over 328 00:21:41.750 --> 00:21:45.990 the weekend, too. Same day as All In. 329 00:21:46.470 --> 00:21:47.990 Yeah. 330 00:21:48.349 --> 00:21:52.670 And got a new NXT Women's Champion. Finally, Kalani Jordan 331 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:56.259 won the title. She's been down in NXT for the longest. 332 00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:59.220 She's like an NXT veteran at this point. Oh, wow. 333 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:02.759 And she finally won the championship. Right. 334 00:22:03.549 --> 00:22:05.190 It should be Kendall Gray, finally. 335 00:22:07.609 --> 00:22:08.069 Nice. 336 00:22:08.529 --> 00:22:11.130 Grayson Waller. What is going on with Grayson Waller down 337 00:22:11.150 --> 00:22:14.940 at NXT? I'm hearing Grayson Waller's name being thrown around 338 00:22:15.339 --> 00:22:17.460 a lot. What is the story? 339 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:22.339 He showed up. Apparently, he showed up. Cut a fire promo. Supposedly, 340 00:22:22.380 --> 00:22:27.240 rumor is, he was also given the 50% pay cut treatment, 341 00:22:27.500 --> 00:22:31.630 and he accepted. Went down at NXT. Cut a pretty, 342 00:22:32.250 --> 00:22:36.819 you know, somewhat pipe bomb ish type promo and found 343 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:39.319 himself in the title picture and just won the title 344 00:22:39.380 --> 00:22:42.359 at Henning at NXT heat wave in a, what was it? 345 00:22:42.369 --> 00:22:45.529 A fatal four way or a triple threat. Yeah. 346 00:22:45.549 --> 00:22:47.990 A fatal four way or something like that. 347 00:22:48.029 --> 00:22:48.210 Yeah. 348 00:22:48.230 --> 00:22:53.710 Yeah. When the title totally Tony D'Angelo Cruz, Montana and 349 00:22:53.859 --> 00:22:57.359 Zilla Fox too, by the Zilla Fox too. We got 350 00:22:58.220 --> 00:23:01.269 blood members everywhere. Bloodline members everywhere. 351 00:23:01.289 --> 00:23:02.930 Cruz Montana is a fucking horrible name. 352 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:05.400 Cruz Montana. 353 00:23:05.420 --> 00:23:09.740 Why would you change it? It's awful. Mike Santana

was 354 00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:11.660 just fine. Why would you go with that? 355 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:14.019 Yeah, yeah. 356 00:23:14.059 --> 00:23:14.180 Wow. 357 00:23:14.259 --> 00:23:16.619 I knew Mike Santana was in there. I didn't know 358 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:18.789 he changed his name to Cruz Santana. What the fuck 359 00:23:18.890 --> 00:23:22.130 is NXT doing with names? People are coming in with 360 00:23:22.190 --> 00:23:25.650 made names that roll off the tongue and they're just. 361 00:23:26.430 --> 00:23:27.740 We know why they're doing it. 362 00:23:27.789 --> 00:23:34.329 Because So they can copyright it. Cruz is his brother 363 00:23:34.470 --> 00:23:38.130 and Montana is his cousin. 364 00:23:38.569 --> 00:23:41.079 There is a familial link to it or whatever. 365 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:44.799 It's not just something they spit out of nowhere, but still. 366 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:47.539 He's got a name. He's got an identity. 367 00:23:47.619 --> 00:23:50.799 Why change things? They let Joe up on two, stay 368 00:23:50.819 --> 00:23:54.170 Joe up on two. They let Joe Hendry stay Joe Hendry. 369 00:23:54.190 --> 00:23:55.009 Yeah. 370 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.079 I don't understand. 371 00:23:59.099 --> 00:24:01.960 Yeah. Where, where, where is the line? You know, like 372 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:04.240 some people can do it. It's okay for some. 373 00:24:04.140 --> 00:24:09.529 People, but not okay for most, I would say. 374 00:24:10.569 --> 00:24:14.089 Exactly. You got Mike Santana, a known name, a known commodity, 375 00:24:14.230 --> 00:24:17.710 a name that carries weight coming in. The reason why 376 00:24:17.769 --> 00:24:19.710 he got the pop that he got when he showed 377 00:24:19.779 --> 00:24:24.619 up is because he's fucking Mike Santana. Not Cruz. Not 378 00:24:24.700 --> 00:24:29.099 Cruz Montana. He was Mike Santana. We knew that person. 379 00:24:29.740 --> 00:24:32.980 That name meant something. And then they just say, we're 380 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:35.220 just going to erase that and start over. Same thing 381 00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:39.839 with Nikki Blackheart, who is now going by Raina Vulcan, 382 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:42.960 which does not roll off the tongue at all. 383 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:44.160 Jesus. 384 00:24:44.180 --> 00:24:44.799 Unless you are. 385 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:51.920 Latino or Hispanic descent, and it rolls off the tongue, 386 00:24:51.940 --> 00:24:57.369 but Nikki Blackheart was the known commodity. Nikki Blackheart was 387 00:24:57.380 --> 00:24:59.789 the name that was built on the indies. Nikki Blackheart 388 00:24:59.869 --> 00:25:02.750 is the reason why when she showed up, the crowd reacted, 389 00:25:03.009 --> 00:25:06.970 and even I forgot who they're, Vic Joseph, I think 390 00:25:07.009 --> 00:25:10.369 the NXT announcer, why he said, wait, we know who 391 00:25:10.430 --> 00:25:10.849 that is. 392 00:25:11.990 --> 00:25:12.329 Yeah. 393 00:25:12.430 --> 00:25:14.789

He said that on the mic when she debuted. 394 00:25:14.809 --> 00:25:15.089 Yeah. 395 00:25:16.140 --> 00:25:18.180 We know who that is. Yeah, we do know who 396 00:25:18.220 --> 00:25:22.319 that is. Nikki Blackheart, not Reina Volkann. You can't sit 397 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:23.980 there and say we know who that is and then 398 00:25:24.099 --> 00:25:28.309 give her a whole different name. It doesn't make any 399 00:25:28.329 --> 00:25:33.230 sense at all whatsoever. And yes, I know she had 400 00:25:33.730 --> 00:25:38.190 reasons behind that name as well, but that's a name 401 00:25:38.210 --> 00:25:39.750 I can tell you. That name is not going to stick. 402 00:25:40.230 --> 00:25:43.410 They're either going to shorten it to La Reina or something, but... 403 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:47.660 The reign of Ocon is not going to stick. It's 404 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:51.359 too awkward. It's not something that, like I said, it 405 00:25:51.380 --> 00:25:53.579 doesn't roll off the tongue. It's not something that is 406 00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:56.900 easily said. Right. 407 00:26:00.210 --> 00:26:02.869 Yeah, well, they're fucking people's names. 408 00:26:02.910 --> 00:26:03.109 Yeah. 409 00:26:03.130 --> 00:26:03.349 Right. 410 00:26:03.369 --> 00:26:03.549 Right. 411 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:15.720 And I can imagine somebody like Naomi just absolutely tearing 412 00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:16.480 that name apart. 413 00:26:17.609 --> 00:26:18.269 Yeah. 414 00:26:18.980 --> 00:26:23.670 Like, Naomi, come on, what, the reign of Voltron? Yeah, Voltron. 415 00:26:23.690 --> 00:26:27.910 Yeah, I like that. Wait till we get a hold 416 00:26:27.950 --> 00:26:30.130 of it when they get to the main roster. Right, 417 00:26:30.230 --> 00:26:37.750 Stephanie Vacuum? All right, let's talk about this massive card 418 00:26:37.769 --> 00:26:40.769 we have. Oh, no, I just closed the window. Damn it. 419 00:26:41.250 --> 00:26:44.109 Let's talk about this card. Give me, like, three seconds. 420 00:26:44.309 --> 00:26:47.769 I just closed the window. Look, I got big horse's ass. 421 00:26:49.309 --> 00:26:54.259 This is fucking embarrassing. Oh, man. We have 45 of 422 00:26:54.299 --> 00:26:56.079 these things. I gotta scroll all the way to the bottom. 423 00:26:56.859 --> 00:26:59.259 All the way to the bottom. Who do we got 424 00:26:59.299 --> 00:27:04.119 on the poster? We got Trick Williams and Lil Yachty 425 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:09.670 on the poster. Um... Yeah, let's just kick off with 426 00:27:09.809 --> 00:27:14.410 that match. Baron Corbin versus Lil Yachty. Singles match with 427 00:27:14.450 --> 00:27:20.200 a five-minute time limit. If Yachty manages to survive the 428 00:27:20.220 --> 00:27:23.859 time limit, Trick Williams will receive a match for the 429 00:27:24.180 --> 00:27:28.299 WWE United States title against Corbin on the same night. 430 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:32.880 Where do I begin? 431 00:27:33.940 --> 00:27:36.200 There's the fifth match you

were looking for. 432 00:27:36.220 --> 00:27:36.289 Ugh. 433 00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:46.420 Within the match, right? Fuck. Yeah, because Baron has been 434 00:27:46.460 --> 00:27:50.730 walking around with this title even as late as this week, 435 00:27:51.210 --> 00:27:53.789 and the title has not changed. It is still Trick 436 00:27:53.849 --> 00:27:58.250 Williams' custom fur title, and I'm pretty sure that's not 437 00:27:58.730 --> 00:28:00.809 Baron Corbin saying, you know what? I'll rock this. I 438 00:28:00.849 --> 00:28:05.180 like this. This is me. Because some guys, when they 439 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:10.029 win Custom titles, they immediately get rid of them. You know, 440 00:28:10.049 --> 00:28:12.910 when Kofi won his first title, they made sure to 441 00:28:12.950 --> 00:28:16.990 get rid of that fucking wooden, organic, hemp, fucking whatever 442 00:28:17.029 --> 00:28:19.470 it was title that Daniel Bryan had and made sure 443 00:28:19.509 --> 00:28:26.869 Kofi held up a real WWE title. So, yeah, this 444 00:28:27.670 --> 00:28:33.430 and then obviously putting the fucking stipulation in, we're getting 445 00:28:34.349 --> 00:28:41.640 Baron Corbin versus Trick Williams yet again. He made a 446 00:28:41.660 --> 00:28:45.940 good point, though, the past few weeks during promos that 447 00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:50.180 you've had a title shot, you lost, you had a rematch, 448 00:28:50.220 --> 00:28:54.019 and you lost again. Back of the line. 449 00:28:56.539 --> 00:28:56.960 Here we are. 450 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:03.200 I've heard that Lil Yachty has been in the performance centers, 451 00:29:03.700 --> 00:29:07.180 believe it or not, spending some time He just has 452 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:12.160 to survive five minutes. I feel like this is how 453 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:19.589 Jelly Roll started or something, right? Because now, you know, news, 454 00:29:19.670 --> 00:29:23.549 Jelly Roll action figure has actually dropped this week. So 455 00:29:23.930 --> 00:29:26.089 if you want a new WWE action figure, you can 456 00:29:26.150 --> 00:29:30.470 get the Jelly Roll wrestling action figure. So who knows? 457 00:29:30.529 --> 00:29:33.309 Maybe next year we'll be talking about the Little Yachty 458 00:29:34.990 --> 00:29:38.839 Sunday Night Main Event version action figure that just dropped. 459 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:43.539 He's been sticking around since WrestleMania. He hasn't gone anywhere. 460 00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:47.380 He's been sticking by Trick's side. He's getting into the 461 00:29:47.420 --> 00:29:54.619 ring now. Could Little Yachty be a jelly roll? Could 462 00:29:54.660 --> 00:30:00.460 he be a bad bunny? A bad bunny where he... Okay, so. 463 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:04.529 Those two are not at all the same. 464 00:30:05.029 --> 00:30:05.690 Okay, but. 465 00:30:05.710 --> 00:30:08.730 I don't think you can compare Jelly Roll and Bad 466 00:30:08.789 --> 00:30:09.569 Bunny at all. 467 00:30:09.609 --> 00:30:15.730 No, I know. Exactly. Okay, so... Can we compare? He's 468 00:30:15.750 --> 00:30:17.430 going to end up in one of those categories. It's 469 00:30:17.450 --> 00:30:19.349 going to be awful, or it's going to be great. 470 00:30:19.369 --> 00:30:21.210 I think he's going to be closer to Jelly Roll. 471 00:30:21.549 --> 00:30:25.099 Okay, that's what I mean. That's the bar. That's the 472 00:30:25.180 --> 00:30:28.259 rating we have. Jelly Roll to Bad Bunny. How is 473 00:30:28.299 --> 00:30:28.799 he going to be? 474 00:30:31.509 --> 00:30:34.529 Sure, I mean, if you're looking at Lil Yachty to 475 00:30:34.569 --> 00:30:38.269 be an actual wrestler, I'm not looking for him to 476 00:30:38.309 --> 00:30:41.029 be an actual wrestler in this match. Yes, I know 477 00:30:41.069 --> 00:30:45.569 he's been at the PC putting some work in, but honestly, 478 00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:49.259 I think the fact that they put it in the 479 00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:53.160 stipulation of he has to just last five minutes tells 480 00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:55.339 me that it's pretty much just going to be five 481 00:30:55.380 --> 00:30:56.740 minutes of him getting his ass kicked. 482 00:30:58.000 --> 00:30:58.799 Nice, yeah. 483 00:30:59.299 --> 00:31:02.680 I don't think And maybe, maybe we might get one, 484 00:31:02.740 --> 00:31:07.140 maybe two little quick little sparks of offense from him 485 00:31:07.180 --> 00:31:10.160 where he hits a move just enough to get a 486 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:15.049 pop from the crowd. But I don't, I'm not looking 487 00:31:15.069 --> 00:31:17.569 at this like the way they did. Definitely not on 488 00:31:17.589 --> 00:31:22.809 the level of Bad Bunny, who actually wrestled a legitimate match. 489 00:31:22.829 --> 00:31:26.509 Or even Jelly Roll, who got in legitimate offense and 490 00:31:26.569 --> 00:31:34.299 pulled off legitimate moves against people. And even him wrestled 491 00:31:36.059 --> 00:31:39.640 somewhat competently his second time around for a decent amount 492 00:31:39.660 --> 00:31:42.049 of time. I'm not looking for that from Lil Yachty. 493 00:31:42.650 --> 00:31:46.089 And like I said, just based on the way they're 494 00:31:46.130 --> 00:31:48.470 selling this match to us, is that he just has 495 00:31:48.509 --> 00:31:51.990 to survive five minutes. Baron Corbin's going to carry the 496 00:31:52.029 --> 00:31:55.299 shit out of him. Baron Corbin's going to whoop his ass. 497 00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:58.480 And Lil Yachty is just going to hang on just 498 00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:01.690 long enough for Trick Williams to get the actual match 499 00:32:02.109 --> 00:32:06.049 probably later on that night on the card. But I'm 500 00:32:06.089 --> 00:32:10.269 not thinking, you know, we're going to get Lil Yachty 501 00:32:10.309 --> 00:32:14.980 pulling out Mexican destroyers and shit like that. No. He 502 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:21.980 should be treated exactly as he is. A celebrity rapper, non-wrestler, 503

00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.200 getting in the ring with an actual wrestler, and getting 504 00:32:25.220 --> 00:32:26.559 his fucking teeth kicked in for it. 505 00:32:28.460 --> 00:32:30.400 Man, I'm expecting too much here, I guess. 506 00:32:30.619 --> 00:32:33.089 They used to do this with, like... They used to 507 00:32:33.190 --> 00:32:35.589 do this with, like, the Harvey Whipple men of the world. 508 00:32:36.089 --> 00:32:41.109 You know, back in the old days. You know, it's... Yeah, exactly. 509 00:32:41.130 --> 00:32:42.339 He's gonna... It's gonna be. 510 00:32:43.890 --> 00:32:48.289 Four minutes and 50 seconds of him running away, you know, 511 00:32:48.450 --> 00:32:50.430 and getting his butt kicked or whatever, and then he's 512 00:32:50.470 --> 00:32:52.809 going to, with 10 seconds left, he's going to get 513 00:32:52.829 --> 00:32:55.349 a move or two in, just enough that Corbin can't 514 00:32:55.390 --> 00:32:57.190 pin him until, you know. 515 00:32:57.349 --> 00:33:01.730 Five minutes and two seconds, and there you go. Trick 516 00:33:01.769 --> 00:33:02.369 set is matched. 517 00:33:03.289 --> 00:33:07.829 It'll just be stupid, fluffy time waster, really, just to 518 00:33:07.849 --> 00:33:12.250 get you back to an excuse to have another Trick 519 00:33:12.289 --> 00:33:16.259 Williams baron club in manichigan this is fine i mean 520 00:33:16.740 --> 00:33:21.079 they're so they're so um hurting for heels right. 521 00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:24.230 Now uh that like baron corbin's like a breath. 522 00:33:24.130 --> 00:33:26.589 Of fresh air coming in there's like a pure heel 523 00:33:26.609 --> 00:33:28.710 for for a change it seems to be there's so 524 00:33:28.750 --> 00:33:32.069 few many so few of them especially on smackdown. 525 00:33:31.630 --> 00:33:32.809 Anyway um. 526 00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:36.059 Yeah. 527 00:33:36.210 --> 00:33:38.660 I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a lot of 528 00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.400 people were so puzzled when he came back and I, 529 00:33:41.539 --> 00:33:44.000 and I thought, well, you got somebody that knows how to. 530 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.380 Get heat and see a. 531 00:33:46.380 --> 00:33:48.180 Problem over on the SmackDown brand. 532 00:33:48.670 --> 00:33:51.269 So, yeah, I mean, this is, this is designed to 533 00:33:51.309 --> 00:33:54.829 do just that. And then I think, I think Chuck 534 00:33:54.849 --> 00:33:59.609 probably takes the title back. Do we think that? Yeah. 535 00:33:59.759 --> 00:33:59.990 Yeah. 536 00:34:00.099 --> 00:34:04.910 I think if they, if, if, Assuming that Yachty lasts 537 00:34:04.930 --> 00:34:08.869 the five minutes, then yes, Trick gets his match and 538 00:34:08.929 --> 00:34:11.909 he gets the title back here at Sunday Night Main 539 00:34:11.929 --> 00:34:14.219 Event against Baron Corbin. Right. 540 00:34:15.260 --> 00:34:17.760 It seems like you don't set up a match like 541 00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:19.519 this for him not to make the five minutes. 542 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:23.119 Right, right. And you definitely don't want to bury your 543 00:34:23.380 --> 00:34:29.239 rising star, Trick Williams, against Baron Corbin by losing this 544 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.679 many times of the road to this guy. Right. 545 00:34:32.019 --> 00:34:35.900 I mean, I just thought we had something bigger planned 546 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.030 down the road just because Money in the Bank is 547 00:34:38.050 --> 00:34:41.969 like right around the corner. And I understand you can 548 00:34:42.050 --> 00:34:44.670 hold the United States title and still compete in the 549 00:34:44.690 --> 00:34:47.550 Money in the Bank. But I just, I don't know. 550 00:34:48.010 --> 00:34:52.230 I just thought since he lost it, the timing was perfect. So, 551 00:34:52.429 --> 00:34:55.590 I mean, if he loses here, that's where he could go. 552 00:34:56.110 --> 00:34:59.260 It's right around the corner. I mean, like I said, 553 00:34:59.780 --> 00:35:02.610 I would I penciled in for that. 554 00:35:06.849 --> 00:35:11.429 That possibility can't be ruled out. But then you still 555 00:35:11.469 --> 00:35:13.820 have to end up finding something for Trick Williams to 556 00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:16.940 do in the meantime if he's not champion. And he's 557 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:20.639 just came out on the losing end of a drawn 558 00:35:20.699 --> 00:35:24.260 out feud with Baron Corbin. Baron Corbin's got plenty to do. 559 00:35:24.300 --> 00:35:27.260 He'd be the champion. He's got other talent he can 560 00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:33.550 work with. Carmelo Hayes and others, you know, but for trick, 561 00:35:35.730 --> 00:35:39.789 what do you do between Sunday and money in the 562 00:35:39.809 --> 00:35:42.170 bank or the bill, at least the buildup to money 563 00:35:42.210 --> 00:35:43.650 in the bank, if he's not champion or if he's 564 00:35:43.670 --> 00:35:44.489 not doing anything else. 565 00:35:47.949 --> 00:35:49.349 Yeah, I really can't. 566 00:35:50.489 --> 00:35:50.809 Yeah. 567 00:35:50.829 --> 00:35:52.869 I don't know where he goes. I mean, I guess 568 00:35:52.929 --> 00:35:56.889 we're going to do be just flip-flopping this title. Um, 569 00:35:57.090 --> 00:36:00.480 it just, I just feel like Baron Corbin's going to 570 00:36:00.500 --> 00:36:03.139 go down the road that Rusev went down. You show up, 571 00:36:03.420 --> 00:36:07.800 you make a big impact, then somehow you fade in 572 00:36:07.820 --> 00:36:12.769 the background. So, let's hope that this is not the case. 573 00:36:12.789 --> 00:36:18.389 That's how I see it going with Baron, unfortunately. 574 00:36:18.409 --> 00:36:21.170 Respectfully, it's Baron Corbin. 575 00:36:21.349 --> 00:36:23.369 I don't think. 576 00:36:23.030 --> 00:36:30.190 They brought him in to be a top guy in 577 00:36:30.210 --> 00:36:33.110 the company at all. I think they brought him in 578 00:36:33.210 --> 00:36:39.949 specifically to be enhancement talent,

to be a trusted veteran 579 00:36:40.449 --> 00:36:43.829 who can work with this next generation, this young up 580 00:36:43.889 --> 00:36:48.119 and coming talent and can give them good feuds, good matches, 581 00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:53.480 good in ring reps and elevate them. So I think 582 00:36:53.579 --> 00:36:56.179 this is him and they put the title on him to, 583 00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:59.690 you know, establish him as credible. from the jump, which worked, 584 00:36:59.710 --> 00:37:02.130 because if he came in and just immediately got squashed 585 00:37:02.170 --> 00:37:06.510 by Trick, then he has no credibility. We have no 586 00:37:06.550 --> 00:37:09.570 reason to take Baron Corbin seriously. But by him coming 587 00:37:09.670 --> 00:37:13.119 in and immediately winning the title and holding on to 588 00:37:13.179 --> 00:37:16.539 it for at least going on a month now or 589 00:37:16.579 --> 00:37:21.400 close to it, and being able to fend off Trick 590 00:37:21.420 --> 00:37:23.659 Williams for an amount of time, that at least gives 591 00:37:23.699 --> 00:37:34.210 him some credibility moving forward. Yeah, totally. Yeah, and the 592 00:37:34.250 --> 00:37:36.510 days are still laying motherfuckers down left and right. 593 00:37:38.130 --> 00:37:42.670 End of days. Yeah, I like that move. All right, 594 00:37:42.690 --> 00:37:44.880 let's talk about the women's. 595 00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:45.719 For a long time. 596 00:37:45.739 --> 00:37:46.440 I'm sorry. 597 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:48.500 One last thing about Corbin. 598 00:37:48.860 --> 00:37:52.139 Remember for the longest time, he was the last guy 599 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.250 to beat Roman Reigns for like three years. 600 00:37:55.190 --> 00:37:55.289 Yep. 601 00:37:55.940 --> 00:38:00.219 Remember when Cody was trying to finish the story? 602 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:00.940 I remember that. 603 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.820 Who was the last person to pin Roman Reigns? It 604 00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:05.179 was Baron Corbin, I think. 605 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:06.400 God. 606 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:12.380 What a deep dive for that one. Alright, we got 607 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:18.030 a six-women tag team match. Charlotte Flair, Alexa Bliss, their 608 00:38:18.090 --> 00:38:23.409 new friend Tatum Paxley versus Jade Cargill, Meechan, and B-Fab. 609 00:38:26.699 --> 00:38:31.940 So this match is happening. Uh, yeah, this is, this 610 00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:33.969 is just filler for me. 611 00:38:34.050 --> 00:38:38.170 Right. Uh, uh, yeah. 612 00:38:38.489 --> 00:38:40.489 I mean, like, I like, are we in this match? 613 00:38:40.610 --> 00:38:43.429 I do too. I do too. Like, I, I like 614 00:38:43.469 --> 00:38:44.800 everybody in this match. I think we're going to be 615 00:38:44.820 --> 00:38:49.900 running back Charlotte and Jade again. Uh, I don't know 616 00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.519 what angle they're playing with Tatum Paxley. Like, is she, 617 00:38:53.409 --> 00:38:55.659 is this going to be a three person group or 618 00:38:55.699 --> 00:38:58.239 is this Charlotte and Tatum are not going to get 619 00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:02.659 along and we're going to see, you know, uh, Charlotte 620 00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.139 versus Alexa at some point, there's going to be some problem, 621 00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.880 you know, with the third friend in the group, you know, 622 00:39:08.900 --> 00:39:11.280 that could be the, the, they could lose this match 623 00:39:11.340 --> 00:39:15.199 because of that. Um, so I don't think Charlotte's fully 624 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:20.469 on board with Tatum Paxley. Um, Doesn't really know much too. 625 00:39:20.269 --> 00:39:22.880 Much about her. But she's not showing any real disdain either. 626 00:39:22.940 --> 00:39:25.699 It's more just like awkward acceptance. 627 00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:27.630 Exactly. Like, you know. 628 00:39:28.150 --> 00:39:30.380 And I like, personally, I like the dynamic. that they 629 00:39:30.420 --> 00:39:35.420 have you know obviously charlotte and alexa have great on-screen 630 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.460 chemistry together they work together bringing in a wild card 631 00:39:39.500 --> 00:39:43.969 like tatum paxley gives it a new entertaining wrinkle for 632 00:39:43.989 --> 00:39:46.969 them to have to deal with so i mean Obviously, 633 00:39:47.010 --> 00:39:49.110 this will come to an end at some point, but 634 00:39:49.150 --> 00:39:51.570 I don't see why it needs to end anytime soon. 635 00:39:54.210 --> 00:39:59.409 Yeah. Did anybody see Alexa Bliss posted a picture? She 636 00:40:00.150 --> 00:40:02.489 slipped in the middle of the night in the bathroom 637 00:40:02.650 --> 00:40:05.800 and hit her eye directly on the shower handle. And 638 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:11.639 she has this massive black and blue, but still still 639 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:15.650 is going to wrestle. So we'll see. some heavy makeup or, 640 00:40:15.769 --> 00:40:19.010 you know, like, like we always say with most wrestlers, 641 00:40:19.050 --> 00:40:21.409 like when you have a bruise or something, like don't 642 00:40:21.469 --> 00:40:25.820 cover it, rock it. You know, like, uh, I think 643 00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:28.860 it was like, was it like two weeks ago? Uh, 644 00:40:31.019 --> 00:40:36.429 Cody says, I'm still wearing makeup to cover the bruises 645 00:40:36.469 --> 00:40:38.909 you left on my face. I'm like, bro, why are 646 00:40:38.929 --> 00:40:50.599 you wearing makeup? He's the man of the people, I guess, 647 00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.920 or whatever. I'm like, dude, I don't wear makeup. Nor 648 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:56.559 do I wear a seven-piece suit. But, you know, whatever. 649 00:40:58.539 --> 00:41:02.869 Nor do I own a track suit. So, man of 650 00:41:02.889 --> 00:41:10.460 the people. Yeah, so I assume... the faces that are 651 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.079 going to go over in this match. Is there any 652 00:41:14.480 -->

00:41:17.780 other bold predictions that you guys have for this match? 653 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:25.570 No, it's probably going to go to... It's probably going 654 00:41:25.590 --> 00:41:28.389 to go to Charlotte and them because they're the baby 655 00:41:28.429 --> 00:41:32.170 faces and they want to give them a win. And 656 00:41:32.469 --> 00:41:36.630 I guess that'll allow them to finally put Jade and 657 00:41:36.670 --> 00:41:41.070 her crew behind them, which... Who knows where that leaves 658 00:41:41.110 --> 00:41:41.969 them afterwards. 659 00:41:45.139 --> 00:41:47.179 Which is unfortunate. 660 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:51.380 Because Meechan is a great worker. She's one I like 661 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:56.030 as well. But they seem to be giving her the 662 00:41:56.349 --> 00:41:58.750 Chelsea Green treatment. She's there to make the other ones 663 00:41:58.789 --> 00:42:02.469 look good. But unfortunately, Meechan doesn't have the same following 664 00:42:02.510 --> 00:42:06.150 that Chelsea Green has to break through it. Right. 665 00:42:06.650 --> 00:42:08.150 I was just about to say, it worked out all 666 00:42:08.190 --> 00:42:09.650 right for Chelsea, but you're right. 667 00:42:10.269 --> 00:42:13.050 Yeah. Yeah. Meechan just doesn't have that same backing. 668 00:42:13.780 --> 00:42:15.920 Right. I mean, I could see if we get a 669 00:42:16.260 --> 00:42:21.280 face tag team with those titles, you know, once they 670 00:42:21.300 --> 00:42:24.699 get off Fatal Attraction, and then you could see them 671 00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:29.380 running for the tag titles. Because they haven't gotten, I 672 00:42:29.420 --> 00:42:33.400 don't believe they've gotten the tag titles yet, Meechan and B-Fab. 673 00:42:33.420 --> 00:42:33.539 Who? 674 00:42:34.349 --> 00:42:36.869 Meechan B-Fat, that could be a possibility down the road. 675 00:42:36.889 --> 00:42:42.559 If you want to make that stable a threat, you've 676 00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:44.559 got to throw some gold in there. You want to 677 00:42:44.579 --> 00:42:46.940 make it relevant. Even Paul Heyman said that. You want 678 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:49.780 to be relevant, go get some gold. And then they 679 00:42:49.820 --> 00:42:51.000 came back with the tag titles. 680 00:42:51.699 --> 00:42:56.039 They probably should have been done that with them because 681 00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:59.559 the stable ain't new. The stable's been around since WrestleMania. 682 00:42:59.960 --> 00:43:00.360 You're right. 683 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:03.679 They should have because Fatal Attraction comes in, wrecks house, 684 00:43:04.139 --> 00:43:07.739 you know, literally Rex house takes a few women off, 685 00:43:08.139 --> 00:43:11.599 you know, with orbital injuries and shoulder injuries. And they, 686 00:43:11.699 --> 00:43:16.440 now they hold both tag titles, uh, and the United 687 00:43:16.460 --> 00:43:22.260 States title. So yeah, it's like, you could have pushed 688 00:43:22.380 --> 00:43:25.480 these three the same way. Cause when Jade had the title, 689 00:43:25.860 --> 00:43:28.059 you could have definitely thrown the titles in there. 690 00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:34.159 And they'd have much more credibility and look, be seen 691 00:43:34.219 --> 00:43:36.840 as much more legitimate than they are now. But yeah, 692 00:43:37.300 --> 00:43:41.119 they never did that. Like you said, the NXT call-ups 693 00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:43.619 come in and accomplish more in less time. 694 00:43:44.739 --> 00:43:45.059 Yeah. 695 00:43:45.340 --> 00:43:45.599 Yeah. 696 00:43:46.019 --> 00:43:49.119 And, um, that's what I'm hoping when those titles are 697 00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:53.000 off of those heels that we could see that because 698 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:56.659 if not, you're just gonna, you know, just fall into 699 00:43:56.699 --> 00:44:00.480 the background and it really sucks because you're all in 700 00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:05.559 the same ship and you're all going to drown. Anyway, 701 00:44:06.900 --> 00:44:10.760 let's move on to some more interesting things. So we 702 00:44:10.780 --> 00:44:17.300 got our first, second, and possibly third match. Let's talk 703 00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:21.510 about Oba Femi and Braun Breaker. This match will be 704 00:44:21.550 --> 00:44:27.449 deciding basically the future of this company is how they're 705 00:44:27.469 --> 00:44:31.030 making it out to be. You know, this is a 706 00:44:31.329 --> 00:44:37.780 big match. You know, Obafemi, hot off of retiring Brock 707 00:44:37.820 --> 00:44:41.530 Lesnar and also being a King of the Ring winner. 708 00:44:42.090 --> 00:44:46.869 Still not a world champion yet. I feel like it's 709 00:44:46.949 --> 00:44:50.599 the best you can do before being world champion or 710 00:44:50.619 --> 00:44:57.289 being L champion. With those kind of accolades. Braun, you know, I... 711 00:44:58.909 --> 00:45:01.329 Braun would definitely have been elevated much higher than he 712 00:45:01.389 --> 00:45:04.639 is now if he wasn't for his injury we could 713 00:45:04.659 --> 00:45:07.980 have seen him maybe with the rumble and the position 714 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:12.840 that would have put him in could have skyrocketed bringing 715 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:16.960 him and putting him with division I thought was awesome 716 00:45:18.380 --> 00:45:22.960 again injury is what injury after injury not just him 717 00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:26.059 the other guys around him getting injured I felt like 718 00:45:26.099 --> 00:45:30.250 also affected his career That happens when you're in a group. 719 00:45:30.809 --> 00:45:34.090 Sometimes it could help and sometimes it could weaken the group, 720 00:45:34.150 --> 00:45:40.130 especially when you don't have that many people. This is 721 00:45:40.489 --> 00:45:43.900 one of those matches that we're going to see a 722 00:45:43.940 --> 00:45:46.139 bunch of and we're going to see it a lot. 723 00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:49.380 These

two guys are going to be around for a while. 724 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:54.280 These are both the future of the company. I feel 725 00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:57.269 like every couple years we get two guys who are 726 00:45:57.329 --> 00:46:03.010 just Bound to do this forever. This back and forth. 727 00:46:05.110 --> 00:46:09.139 The Rock and Stone Cold. John Cena and Randy Orton. 728 00:46:09.500 --> 00:46:16.300 Roman and Seth. Oba and Braun. This could be it. 729 00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:22.400 I think it doesn't matter who wins this. It doesn't 730 00:46:22.420 --> 00:46:27.440 matter who loses this. I guess for the beginning of 731 00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:31.239 this feud. But at the end of the day, I 732 00:46:32.059 --> 00:46:33.639 think I'm just going to want to see more and more. 733 00:46:33.659 --> 00:46:35.760 I'm going to want to see these guys go at 734 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:41.460 it again and again. I did like the promo that 735 00:46:41.500 --> 00:46:44.280 these guys cut on each other. I mean, they're so 736 00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:48.710 good at it. You know, Braun, I like him telling Oba, 737 00:46:48.730 --> 00:46:50.889 you know, I'm basically going to take you out into 738 00:46:50.929 --> 00:46:53.250 the deep end and I'm going to tire your ass 739 00:46:53.409 --> 00:46:56.449 out and I'm going to watch you drown. You know, 740 00:46:56.469 --> 00:47:00.320 I thought that was clever. because, you know, Oba is 741 00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:04.230 a beast, man, but it's, uh, Braun may have the, 742 00:47:04.309 --> 00:47:08.530 the stamina, you know, and, and Braun, this is something 743 00:47:08.550 --> 00:47:12.510 that he has an advantage of over Oba, and, and we'll, 744 00:47:12.550 --> 00:47:18.340 we'll see that, uh, it's, it's exciting, uh, I'm pretty 745 00:47:18.380 --> 00:47:21.400 excited for this match, and it's, it's, it's not the 746 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:25.619 main event, uh, I don't know, this is probably gonna 747 00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:30.230 be the one that opens the show, right, uh, I 748 00:47:30.250 --> 00:47:33.849 would have to assume. I mean, you want views, right? 749 00:47:33.929 --> 00:47:38.719 You want people... They've been putting Obafemi in a lot 750 00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:42.019 of the opening of the shows we've seen with Brock. 751 00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:46.739 They've been opening a lot of those Peacock episodes. Is 752 00:47:46.820 --> 00:47:48.619 it on Peacock and then it goes on ESPN or 753 00:47:48.659 --> 00:47:51.820 is it always on ESPN, right? No, Sunday Night Mayhem 754 00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:57.019 ends on Peacock. Yeah, it is. Peacock, okay. Yeah, yeah. 755 00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:01.639 I think we're going to get Braun has to win 756 00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:06.079 this first match, right? I feel like he has to 757 00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:11.340 prove to Paul Heyman. I mean, Paul Heyman looks like 758 00:48:11.389 --> 00:48:14.570 he's being tugged. He's being pulled, man, in either direction. 759 00:48:15.610 --> 00:48:18.090 But the way Paul makes it sound is like, if 760 00:48:18.130 --> 00:48:22.510 you don't win this match, you know, I am going 761 00:48:22.530 --> 00:48:28.039 to go look for business elsewhere. Somebody better. And they 762 00:48:28.099 --> 00:48:34.500 might be slowly pulling... haul away from Bron and I mean, dude, 763 00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:38.039 like they got a tease, tease it a little bit. Well, 764 00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:39.929 what do you guys think of the idea of Bron 765 00:48:40.889 --> 00:48:48.969 leaving the vision completely and becoming a face? Um, you know, I, 766 00:48:49.070 --> 00:48:52.170 I feel like he could totally pull it off. Um, 767 00:48:52.909 --> 00:48:58.909 but with that said, I hope there's no, I feel 768 00:48:58.929 --> 00:49:01.280 like we're going to get it. but I would like 769 00:49:01.340 --> 00:49:04.440 it to be a clean win, but I think this 770 00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:09.360 is when we get Bronson Reed returning. A returning jacked 771 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:15.170 Bronson Reed, may I add. From what his pictures look like, 772 00:49:15.210 --> 00:49:17.050 a guy who's in great fucking shape right now. 773 00:49:18.230 --> 00:49:18.610 So, I. 774 00:49:20.260 --> 00:49:23.260 Think he's going to be returning. Does he need to 775 00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:24.300 interfere in this match? 776 00:49:24.500 --> 00:49:24.760 No. 777 00:49:25.019 --> 00:49:27.239 But if they make it look like Oba has the 778 00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.710 upper hand, I could see it. And then now Oba 779 00:49:30.730 --> 00:49:34.289 has to deal with Braun, Breaker, and, you know, Bronson 780 00:49:34.329 --> 00:49:37.369 Reed and basically all of Vision. That's who he'll probably 781 00:49:37.429 --> 00:49:41.400 feud with the next month or so. just running through vision, 782 00:49:42.059 --> 00:49:46.760 you know, but, uh, yeah, Braun, I got my money 783 00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:49.659 on him. Uh, I said enough. God, go ahead, Dre. 784 00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:51.179 Go ahead. Hmm. 785 00:49:53.300 --> 00:49:56.840 As exciting as this match is on paper and as 786 00:49:56.980 --> 00:49:59.199 much as they are hyping it up and building up 787 00:49:59.739 --> 00:50:05.900 this match to be something major and important, I'm just not, 788 00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.719 I don't feel the same level of excitement as they're 789 00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:11.659 trying to make me feel. And the main reason why 790 00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:15.320 I don't feel it is because I think WWE is 791 00:50:15.340 --> 00:50:20.780 too chicken shit to give us a winner. If I 792 00:50:20.860 --> 00:50:23.719 could go into this match and confidently say that one 793 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.840 of these two is actually going to emerge the winner 794 00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:34.460 and actually emerge branded the future of the company, then 795 00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:38.820 I could actually be interested and excited and

invested. But 796 00:50:38.860 --> 00:50:42.050 I don't believe they're going to do that. WWE has 797 00:50:42.070 --> 00:50:45.400 shown us far too often that they play it safe 798 00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:51.519 because they want to protect the person. They don't want 799 00:50:51.539 --> 00:50:57.340 to damage or hurt or whatever with their up-and-coming stars, 800 00:50:57.469 --> 00:51:04.690 especially on Saturday night's main event shows. So I don't 801 00:51:04.710 --> 00:51:09.630 have any confidence that either one of these guys are 802 00:51:09.650 --> 00:51:12.239 going to win. It's going to end in a no contest, 803 00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:14.440 probably because of something like what you just said. We 804 00:51:15.340 --> 00:51:20.650 get a return of Bronson Reed, which, yay, that'd be exciting. Yay, 805 00:51:20.690 --> 00:51:25.670 Bronson Reed's back. But that's going to feel shitty because 806 00:51:25.710 --> 00:51:28.030 it's going to come at the expense of giving us 807 00:51:28.829 --> 00:51:33.099 a definitive winner in this match. And then what do 808 00:51:33.139 --> 00:51:36.539 you go do from there with Bronson Reed? What? Is 809 00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.460 he coming back because he's rejoining the division? And now 810 00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:44.070 he's coming back in phenomenal shape just to be what? 811 00:51:44.550 --> 00:51:50.809 The number two to to Braun to Braun Breaker? Right. 812 00:51:51.210 --> 00:51:53.789 Is he coming back to be a third person in 813 00:51:53.809 --> 00:51:56.880 the mix for Paul Heyman to try to choose between? Like, 814 00:51:57.340 --> 00:52:00.840 do I roll with Oba? Do I roll with Braun Breaker? 815 00:52:00.900 --> 00:52:03.860 Or do I roll with the new Braun and improved 816 00:52:03.900 --> 00:52:07.219 Bronson Reed? Like, where does that go? 817 00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:10.050 Okay. 818 00:52:10.170 --> 00:52:14.400 But again, given that I, I have no confidence that 819 00:52:14.900 --> 00:52:18.500 we're going to get a definitive winner. And that's my 820 00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:22.320 pick is that my pick is no contest. Cause I 821 00:52:22.340 --> 00:52:23.380 don't think we're going to get a winner. 822 00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:29.139 All right. Uh, triple H we have a vote of 823 00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:31.489 no confidence. Uh, Doyle. 824 00:52:32.090 --> 00:52:33.050 Yeah. 825 00:52:33.909 --> 00:52:35.630 I mean, I agree with a lot of what both 826 00:52:35.650 --> 00:52:39.050 of you said. Uh, uh, yeah, I don't think we're 827 00:52:39.090 --> 00:52:42.190 going to get a clean win at all. Um, no 828 00:52:42.230 --> 00:52:43.030 matter who it is. 829 00:52:43.449 --> 00:52:46.570 And because of that, I figured that he, in that scenario, 830 00:52:46.590 --> 00:52:49.369 the heel wins. Uh, I think Bronson Reed kind of 831 00:52:49.389 --> 00:52:53.809 has to win. Um, yeah, I think a DQ, uh, 832 00:52:53.849 --> 00:52:58.650 whether it's returning Bronson Reed, whether it's Logan

Paul or 833 00:52:58.670 --> 00:53:00.800 Endor Ostrich theory doing something. 834 00:53:01.610 --> 00:53:04.219 Um, I think that's how it's got to go. Uh, 835 00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:06.340 for a variety of reasons. 836 00:53:06.420 --> 00:53:12.070 I mean, you, you, You can't have Obafemi just win 837 00:53:12.150 --> 00:53:13.710 every single match, no matter what. 838 00:53:13.909 --> 00:53:15.989 And I guess he hasn't. I guess Brock did beat him. 839 00:53:16.010 --> 00:53:21.460 But, I mean, you've got to give him some vulnerability. Otherwise, 840 00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:23.119 you're going to book yourself into a corner with the 841 00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:24.739 guy and there'll be nowhere to go. 842 00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:29.219 I think, you know, we talk about can they afford 843 00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.219 a loss or can they not or whatever. I think Bronson, or. 844 00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:36.210 Not Bronson, Brock, what the fuck is Bron Breaker? 845 00:53:36.989 --> 00:53:40.329 Jesus fuck. Uh, I think he's getting to the point 846 00:53:40.349 --> 00:53:41.809 where like he needs a big win. 847 00:53:41.829 --> 00:53:48.349 Um, or else he's going to start, uh, I don't. 848 00:53:46.369 --> 00:53:48.630 Know, slip if you will. 849 00:53:49.489 --> 00:53:52.940 Um, so yeah, I mean, I think, I think, um, 850 00:53:53.340 --> 00:53:57.199 I think it'll be some type of interference, um, And, yeah, 851 00:53:57.260 --> 00:54:01.480 either a no contest or a DQ win for Braun Breaker. 852 00:54:01.579 --> 00:54:03.570 Just because I don't think he can afford a loss. 853 00:54:04.090 --> 00:54:06.329 I think Obafemi can, especially. 854 00:54:05.949 --> 00:54:09.250 If it's dirty. And, yeah, why not? 855 00:54:09.269 --> 00:54:11.489 This is as good a time as any to bring 856 00:54:11.570 --> 00:54:15.590 back Bronson Reed. Yeah, and it would be interesting if 857 00:54:16.369 --> 00:54:17.710 that's where Heyman ends up. 858 00:54:18.150 --> 00:54:19.090 You know, not with either. 859 00:54:19.110 --> 00:54:21.840 Because, you know, it does look like who's going to 860 00:54:21.889 --> 00:54:25.360 get custody of Paul Heyman? Maybe they'll have a Paul 861 00:54:25.380 --> 00:54:29.960 Heyman on a pole match. And it would be interesting. 862 00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:33.760 We've seen two guys fighting over Paul Heyman and him 863 00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:35.210 leaving with a third before we. 864 00:54:37.550 --> 00:54:38.190 Could see it again. 865 00:54:40.329 --> 00:54:42.389 And let me be clear. I agree with both of 866 00:54:42.409 --> 00:54:47.429 y'all that Bron Breaker should win. He definitely needs to 867 00:54:47.610 --> 00:54:51.389 win more out of the two. Because like you said, 868 00:54:51.969 --> 00:54:57.340 his credibility as a potential top guy as a future 869 00:54:57.380 --> 00:55:00.179 main eventer is kind of on the line. If he 870 00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:04.400 were to lose this match clean to Oba, then we 871 00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:08.030 really have no reason to take Braun Breaker seriously for 872 00:55:08.070 --> 00:55:11.210 a long time until he builds himself back up. 873 00:55:12.530 --> 00:55:13.909 Yeah, he definitely needs some rehab. 874 00:55:14.769 --> 00:55:18.099 Right, but Oba can lose this and he's still going 875 00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:22.099 to be Oba fucking Fimmy. But I don't. 876 00:55:21.699 --> 00:55:24.139 Think they're going to. 877 00:55:24.659 --> 00:55:26.989 Right. But I don't think there's any way in hell 878 00:55:27.050 --> 00:55:31.309 that they're going to let Braun... Yeah, that they're going 879 00:55:31.329 --> 00:55:35.309 to let Braun Breaker beat Oba Femi clean. Like, there's 880 00:55:35.349 --> 00:55:38.510 no way in hell that's going to happen. He's Braun Breaker. 881 00:55:38.550 --> 00:55:43.820 He ain't Brock Lesnar. He ain't got the cachet to 882 00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:47.300 get a clean win over Oba yet. Even as new 883 00:55:47.579 --> 00:55:52.559 as Oba is. Oba's got the kind of cachet in 884 00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:56.599 a short period of time where if you ain't him, 885 00:55:57.300 --> 00:56:01.469 if you ain't that guy, you ain't supposed to be 886 00:56:01.610 --> 00:56:04.769 Oba Femi clean. Right. Unless you're that guy. 887 00:56:11.329 --> 00:56:14.309 Well, I guess we're getting on to the main event. 888 00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:20.590 When was the last time we saw Randy Orton versus 889 00:56:21.570 --> 00:56:23.389 Cody Rhodes in a singles match. 890 00:56:23.630 --> 00:56:24.289 WrestleMania. 891 00:56:24.849 --> 00:56:32.159 WrestleMania. Running it back. Yeah, I mean, there's a couple 892 00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:35.920 ways this match should go. I mean, it should end 893 00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:38.940 up in a no contest, for all we know. Another 894 00:56:39.699 --> 00:56:43.289 no contest. A lot of people are trying to predict 895 00:56:43.349 --> 00:56:47.670 Cody turning heel finally. I don't. understand how you could 896 00:56:47.929 --> 00:56:51.510 turn and be a bigger heel than Randy Orton, that's 897 00:56:51.530 --> 00:56:55.769 really hard to do. I think to turn heel against Orton, like, 898 00:56:55.849 --> 00:56:58.769 it's different if, you know, if he was against, I 899 00:56:59.989 --> 00:57:04.320 don't know, another face wrestler, John Cena, you know, maybe 900 00:57:04.409 --> 00:57:09.400 a Rey Mysterio, a face punk. So, but no, again, 901 00:57:09.460 --> 00:57:12.219 going against Randy Orton, it doesn't matter if Randy's being 902 00:57:12.300 --> 00:57:15.699 pushed as a face, you can't turn heel on Orton. 903 00:57:16.860 --> 00:57:19.099 It doesn't matter how many punts to the head you do. 904 00:57:19.739 --> 00:57:21.360 I'm still not going to buy. 905 00:57:25.659 --> 00:57:25.980 It. 906 00:57:26.579 --> 00:57:30.039 I don't want to... I really don't care if Cody 907 00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:31.570 goes heel. I don't know if that's going to make 908 00:57:31.590 -->

00:57:39.210 his character any better. He already comes out wearing a 909 00:57:39.230 --> 00:57:42.909 10-piece suit or whatever. Heels normally come out and wear... 910 00:57:43.750 --> 00:57:47.519 He already... Tries to seem like he's better than everybody else, 911 00:57:47.539 --> 00:57:49.940 even though he's the man of the people. I've discussed 912 00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:57.639 this at length. There's no title on the line, so 913 00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:05.610 I see Orton beating Cody clean. Clean, just an RKO 914 00:58:05.650 --> 00:58:10.449 out of nowhere. Just because there is no title in 915 00:58:10.489 --> 00:58:15.400 the picture, there's nothing really at stake. Just right. Just 916 00:58:15.500 --> 00:58:18.849 I beat you. You beat me. I don't believe this 917 00:58:18.869 --> 00:58:23.090 is even for a number one contender match. Does the 918 00:58:23.130 --> 00:58:28.510 winner get a match against Orton? I mean Punk? I 919 00:58:28.550 --> 00:58:32.719 don't think so, right? Punk's tied up elsewhere? 920 00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:36.780 There's no number one contendership or anything on the line. 921 00:58:36.980 --> 00:58:44.300 Yeah, so what makes me want to see this match again. 922 00:58:45.590 --> 00:58:47.840 I don't know. 923 00:58:48.980 --> 00:58:51.420 The hope that it'll be better than their WrestleMania match 924 00:58:51.820 --> 00:58:56.940 because there's no Pat McAfee or any other bullshit involved 925 00:58:56.980 --> 00:58:57.170 in it. 926 00:58:57.579 --> 00:58:58.780 Yeah, that's true. 927 00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:01.829 Just to finally let these two go at it the 928 00:59:01.869 --> 00:59:04.010 way they should have gone at it at WrestleMania. 929 00:59:04.590 --> 00:59:08.130 You're right. There is no jelly roll. There is no 930 00:59:08.230 --> 00:59:11.400 Pat McAfee. You're right, man. Like this is maybe the 931 00:59:11.420 --> 00:59:16.380 match that we would have gotten. We should have gotten that. Exactly. 932 00:59:16.500 --> 00:59:17.000 Should have done. 933 00:59:17.019 --> 00:59:18.809 See what they're doing. They're running back to feud that 934 00:59:18.869 --> 00:59:22.070 they should have had going into WrestleMania. Right. 935 00:59:22.210 --> 00:59:24.769 And if Orton wins this, I'll be pretty pissed off 936 00:59:24.789 --> 00:59:26.849 because then I'd be like, well, he could have been 937 00:59:26.889 --> 00:59:34.360 a 15 time world champion. But nope. Nope. Let me 938 00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:37.320 hear your piece about this, Dre. Let me hear your 939 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:37.960 piece about it. 940 00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:43.659 Yeah, I'm pretty much echoing what you said. I think 941 00:59:44.460 --> 00:59:48.579 Randy Orton probably will win this match just to even 942 00:59:48.699 --> 00:59:56.210 up their feud at one apiece. Not much to invest 943 00:59:56.289 --> 00:59:58.739 in with out there being any real stakes on it 944 00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:02.139 other than just this being

a essentially a grudge match 945 01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:07.239 between the two and then we'll see where it goes 946 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:10.780 from here but yeah more than likely Randy Orton's probably 947 01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:12.840 going to win this match I think he'll probably do 948 01:00:12.900 --> 01:00:17.230 something dirty to win it because for all the people 949 01:00:17.269 --> 01:00:19.809 who are still trying to play the whole Cody Rhodes 950 01:00:19.849 --> 01:00:23.159 turn the heel thing it's not fucking happening but people 951 01:00:23.219 --> 01:00:24.980 are just going to keep saying it until it finally 952 01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:27.380 does happen. And then I'm like, see, look, I told 953 01:00:27.420 --> 01:00:30.260 you motherfucker. You've been trying to tell us since 2025, 954 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:35.230 shut the hell up. Like it's not happening. Randy Orton 955 01:00:35.250 --> 01:00:38.230 will win. Randy Orton will do something heelish to win. 956 01:00:39.030 --> 01:00:44.449 And that's going to be it. Ah, yes. 957 01:00:44.510 --> 01:00:47.170 How many punts is it going to take to put 958 01:00:47.349 --> 01:00:54.349 sweet old Cody roads down? Um, Speaking of Cody Rhodes, oh, well, 959 01:00:54.449 --> 01:00:56.500 you know, Doyle, go ahead. Let me hear your thoughts. 960 01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.820 I mean, yeah, I pretty much would echo the same 961 01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:01.659 thing Dre said. 962 01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:08.079 You know, it's in Cody's hometown, but I don't think 963 01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:12.090 that necessarily guarantees him a win. I think, you know, 964 01:01:12.130 --> 01:01:14.570 like I said about Braun Bray, I think Randy Orton 965 01:01:14.590 --> 01:01:18.250 needs to win this match, even if it's dirty, which 966 01:01:18.309 --> 01:01:20.969 I assume it will be. I don't think it would win. 967 01:01:20.829 --> 01:01:23.719 Clean as a sheet. But it might not be filthy, 968 01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:26.690 sloppy dirty. It might just be a little dirty. Yeah, 969 01:01:28.670 --> 01:01:32.530 Cody can afford to lose. It won't really affect him 970 01:01:32.750 --> 01:01:36.789 in the slightest. Plus, the farther. 971 01:01:36.809 --> 01:01:39.219 I mean, a loss, I think, takes him just even 972 01:01:39.260 --> 01:01:41.500 that much farther away from the title picture, which is 973 01:01:41.559 --> 01:01:43.119 probably a good thing for a little while. 974 01:01:44.860 --> 01:01:49.179 Even if it's, you know, only until next time WrestleMania 975 01:01:49.219 --> 01:01:53.699 comes around or whatever. But yeah, I think Randy needs 976 01:01:53.739 --> 01:01:54.059 to win. 977 01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:54.960 And I. 978 01:01:56.929 --> 01:01:57.429 Think he'll get it. 979 01:02:00.050 --> 01:02:03.769 I wouldn't be surprised to see Brandi Rhodes finally get 980 01:02:03.789 --> 01:02:08.010 involved here because he did kind of. 981 01:02:09.090 --> 01:02:11.409 Orton mentioned her in one of the promos. I could 982 01:02:11.429 --> 01:02:15.760 see her being a ringside and somehow getting involved. Maybe 983 01:02:15.780 --> 01:02:19.940 she slaps Randy or something. I don't know. Or maybe Cody... 984 01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:23.760 trying to protect her ends up getting clocked with something. 985 01:02:23.780 --> 01:02:25.829 I don't know. But I can see her. 986 01:02:25.750 --> 01:02:33.210 Getting involved in this. Yeah. Do we need to get 987 01:02:33.250 --> 01:02:42.139 the women involved? Probably not. But we'll see. It seems 988 01:02:42.179 --> 01:02:49.119 like everybody needs these wins. Like, you know... Trick really 989 01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:52.139 needs this win to win back his United States title 990 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.860 he got taken from. You know, Braun really needs this 991 01:02:55.920 --> 01:03:00.519 win over Oba. Randy really needs his win over Cody. 992 01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:04.820 And you know what? Even though who I picked to win, 993 01:03:05.420 --> 01:03:08.739 I really think Jade, Meechan, and B-Fab really need the win. 994 01:03:09.300 --> 01:03:15.039 More than Charlotte, Lexan, Tatum, Paxson. So everybody... Some of these... 995 01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:17.920 Some of these wins aren't for titles, but they are 996 01:03:18.139 --> 01:03:23.360 very much needed. So, yeah, we'll see. I don't know 997 01:03:23.460 --> 01:03:27.190 what the spoilers are for pre-taped SmackDown that was done. 998 01:03:27.210 --> 01:03:30.070 I don't know where they are and why it is pre-taped. 999 01:03:30.150 --> 01:03:32.349 Is it because of the holiday? I don't know the 1000 01:03:32.389 --> 01:03:35.750 reason why Raw and SmackDown were pre-taped this week. If 1001 01:03:35.789 --> 01:03:36.489 you guys know. 1002 01:03:36.510 --> 01:03:38.110 Yeah, I think that's it. 1003 01:03:38.730 --> 01:03:40.190 Yeah, probably because of the holiday. 1004 01:03:40.250 --> 01:03:41.349 Sure, sure, sure. 1005 01:03:41.369 --> 01:03:43.780 Probably, yeah, just to give them. Give them the full 1006 01:03:43.820 --> 01:03:47.059 week off going into Labor Day and then come back 1007 01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:50.699 from Labor Day and hit the ground running into Money 1008 01:03:50.739 --> 01:03:51.219 in the Bank. 1009 01:03:52.070 --> 01:03:58.949 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that's Sunday Night Main Event. We'll 1010 01:03:59.349 --> 01:04:02.989 get to the post show when we do. In the meantime, 1011 01:04:03.050 --> 01:04:05.840 before we start our next segment, does anybody need a break? 1012 01:04:10.539 --> 01:04:11.239 Dead silence. 1013 01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:13.280 I'm good. 1014 01:04:14.739 --> 01:04:24.380 With that said, what is my next segment here? Uh-oh. Oh, no. Oh, no. 1015 01:04:24.460 --> 01:04:29.690 Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. 1016 01:04:30.210 --> 01:04:31.070 It's here. 1017 01:04:31.150 --> 01:04:44.880 It's here. I've spent some time. I have made a 1018 01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:51.679 Vince McMahon bracket. What

we will be doing. To fill 1019 01:04:51.739 --> 01:04:54.139 in the time, you know. I've had this put aside 1020 01:04:54.199 --> 01:05:00.079 for a little bit. It's just a 16 spot bracket. 1021 01:05:01.059 --> 01:05:04.179 We're going to be talking about some of the worst things, 1022 01:05:05.269 --> 01:05:09.989 worst storylines that Vince McMahon has put himself in throughout 1023 01:05:10.030 --> 01:05:15.960 the years in WWE. Um, this varies high and low. 1024 01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:18.989 I can't even tell you where on the board, where's 1025 01:05:19.010 --> 01:05:22.230 the lowest and where's the most highest offensive. Um, they're 1026 01:05:22.269 --> 01:05:23.949 going to be all over the place. And I, that's 1027 01:05:24.050 --> 01:05:29.829 what we are going to be here to narrow down. Um, 1028 01:05:29.849 --> 01:05:35.079 I did pick 16 that I could think of 16 1029 01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:39.949 that Some of these I found off the internet. What 1030 01:05:40.210 --> 01:05:42.230 a lot of people thought were some of the craziest 1031 01:05:42.269 --> 01:05:51.590 storylines he involved himself in. Not many CEOs put themselves 1032 01:05:51.630 --> 01:05:55.730 in storylines like this. Corporate people. But Vince was one 1033 01:05:55.750 --> 01:06:01.539 of those villains. And by the way, let me make 1034 01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:05.059 this very clear. We are clearly talking about the character 1035 01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:08.059 of Vince McMahon. I'm not talking about what he does 1036 01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:10.900 outside of the ring, because guess what? That is a 1037 01:06:11.260 --> 01:06:17.659 whole nother bracket, which we could probably do. Um, so, uh, 1038 01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:22.079 for this, we're just gonna just focus on what he 1039 01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:28.340 did on screen. Uh, so, uh, would you guys like 1040 01:06:28.409 --> 01:06:31.869 me to tell you all of them now, or would 1041 01:06:31.889 --> 01:06:34.030 you like me to just bring them up as we 1042 01:06:34.050 --> 01:06:37.500 come along within the tournament? Cause they are already mixed 1043 01:06:37.639 --> 01:06:39.949 up in the bracket. They're no longer in the order 1044 01:06:40.010 --> 01:06:41.730 that I originally told you guys off air. 1045 01:06:47.409 --> 01:06:48.880 I'll just read them as they come, I guess. 1046 01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:52.539 Yeah. Read them as they come. All right. And what 1047 01:06:52.579 --> 01:06:54.980 we'll do is when I get to them, uh, if 1048 01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:58.619 you guys remember any key moments from, from this time period, 1049 01:06:58.659 --> 01:07:03.070 I'm going to talk about it briefly. Um, Because, you 1050 01:07:03.110 --> 01:07:05.170 know what? A lot of these, I wasn't here for. 1051 01:07:05.429 --> 01:07:07.670 And some of these, I know some are like Ruthless 1052 01:07:07.690 --> 01:07:10.429 Regression Era. There might be some times where I knew 1053 01:07:10.469 --> 01:07:16.480 when Dre

wasn't watching. There were some spots, some times 1054 01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:21.199 that he missed. And honestly, you're probably lucky you missed 1055 01:07:21.219 --> 01:07:26.570 some of these storylines. Oh, God. So, some of these 1056 01:07:26.610 --> 01:07:28.670 can be offensive. Some of these might be offensive. 1057 01:07:29.429 --> 01:07:29.610 So. 1058 01:07:33.420 --> 01:07:37.219 Son of a bitch. Alright, the first one we have 1059 01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:45.119 is the Montreal Screwjob that happened in November 9th, 1997 1060 01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:48.429 back when it was WWF, the Survivor Series in Quebec. 1061 01:07:49.469 --> 01:07:52.949 Vince McMahon, this involved Vince McMahon, Bret Hart, and Shawn 1062 01:07:52.969 --> 01:07:55.849 Michaels and the referee, Earl Hebner. It became the most 1063 01:07:56.070 --> 01:08:00.289 infamous moment in wrestling history. It was a backstage decision 1064 01:08:00.309 --> 01:08:03.389 that was decided and centered on Bret Hart defending the 1065 01:08:03.630 --> 01:08:07.809 WWE title against Shawn Michaels. Bret was leaving WWF for 1066 01:08:07.989 --> 01:08:11.349 WCW and refused to lose the title to Michaels in Canada. 1067 01:08:12.179 --> 01:08:16.399 Vince McMahon feared Bret might show up on WCW TV 1068 01:08:16.539 --> 01:08:20.260 with his WWE title, so he secretly changed the finish 1069 01:08:20.420 --> 01:08:24.640 of the match. During the match, Michaels put Hart in 1070 01:08:24.659 --> 01:08:29.380 the sharpshooter, Bret's own finishing move, even though Bret never submitted. 1071 01:08:30.409 --> 01:08:34.409 Vince ordered Earl Hebner to ring the bell, declaring Michaels 1072 01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:38.460 the new champion. Bret immediately realized what he had done 1073 01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:44.399 and was double-crossed. He got up, he spit in Vince's face, 1074 01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:50.090 destroyed some ring equipment, and wrote WCW in the air 1075 01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:54.729 before leaving. Yeah. 1076 01:08:56.850 --> 01:08:57.810 Bret screwed Bret. 1077 01:08:58.590 --> 01:09:02.880 Bret screwed Bret. man. Yeah, yeah. Doyle, tell me what 1078 01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:08.199 you remember about this. I mean, even now, it's still 1079 01:09:08.270 --> 01:09:08.850 talked about. 1080 01:09:08.859 --> 01:09:17.369 Yeah, I mean, this was also the infancy of the IWC. 1081 01:09:17.390 --> 01:09:19.510 I don't even think we're calling it that yet. 1082 01:09:20.329 --> 01:09:24.689 Um, this was definitely a, a, a trolling message boards 1083 01:09:24.729 --> 01:09:28.130 looking for somebody that, you know, knew something about, no, no. 1084 01:09:28.149 --> 01:09:31.569 To this day, we still don't really a hundred percent. No, 1085 01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:34.260 for sure. For sure. What exactly happened and. 1086 01:09:34.220 --> 01:09:38.399 Who did what, when, um, but yeah, I'm certainly of 1087 01:09:38.460 --> 01:09:44.300 the belief that, uh. 1088 01:09:44.500 --> 01:09:47.039 Sean and triple H for absolutely 100% in on it. Um, 1089 01:09:49.020 --> 01:09:54.000 despite what they may say or deny. Um, but yeah, 1090 01:09:54.020 --> 01:09:56.739 I mean, this, this was, this was one of those first, uh, 1091 01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:00.680 like what's real, what's not real, you know, kind of stories. 1092 01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:03.979 Um, and I don't know that anybody believed he was 1093 01:10:04.060 --> 01:10:07.600 actually on a WCW until he started up in WCW. 1094 01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:12.449 Right. I mean, just to screw over your own coworkers 1095 01:10:12.890 --> 01:10:14.409 like that. I mean, at the end of the day, 1096 01:10:14.590 --> 01:10:19.000 it's a business, you know, and, Just screwing over somebody 1097 01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:22.689 like that when you had agreements and then taking it 1098 01:10:22.770 --> 01:10:25.329 out there where you know you just have to go 1099 01:10:25.369 --> 01:10:27.930 with what's going on out there. You can't just. 1100 01:10:30.270 --> 01:10:32.329 It's hard to stick your script out there. You know 1101 01:10:32.350 --> 01:10:32.670 what I mean? 1102 01:10:32.750 --> 01:10:37.210 I think Bret Harden has notoriously taken things way too seriously. 1103 01:10:39.090 --> 01:10:41.710 I'm not sure Bret fully knows it's a work. 1104 01:10:43.869 --> 01:10:47.979 Imagine an actor refusing to I. 1105 01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:50.680 Guess it's happened. Sure. Um, but like, I guess it's 1106 01:10:50.699 --> 01:10:52.659 kind of the equivalent of like, well, I'm not doing that. 1107 01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:54.579 Well, it's in the script and you agreed to be 1108 01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:55.279 in this movie. 1109 01:10:55.359 --> 01:10:58.119 So yeah, you have to do this now. You know, 1110 01:10:58.199 --> 01:10:59.340 it's the same thing. 1111 01:10:59.979 --> 01:11:04.399 Yeah. Uh, Dre, what do you, what do you remember 1112 01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:05.960 at the Montreal screw job? 1113 01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:15.500 Um, At the time, not a whole lot because I 1114 01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:20.239 was primarily a WCW guy. You just remember hearing about 1115 01:11:20.300 --> 01:11:26.170 it and people talking about it and not really knowing 1116 01:11:26.229 --> 01:11:28.949 if it was real or a work at the moment 1117 01:11:28.989 --> 01:11:34.109 because nothing like this had ever really transpired on TV 1118 01:11:34.149 --> 01:11:37.659 like that or on a live show like that. It was. 1119 01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:43.149 You could... looking back on it, you could probably say 1120 01:11:43.229 --> 01:11:49.649 that this was one of the, one of the definitive 1121 01:11:49.750 --> 01:11:55.590 nails in the coffin of kayfabe because as, as Doyle mentioned, 1122 01:11:55.850 --> 01:11:59.630 this is, this very much blurred the lines between show 1123 01:11:59.829 --> 01:12:04.500 and reality and really kind of exposed the business in 1124 01:12:04.539 --> 01:12:08.260 a way that it

hadn't been exposed before with Bret 1125 01:12:08.300 --> 01:12:13.600 Hart's reaction and outbursts and the, the WCW spelling at all. 1126 01:12:14.260 --> 01:12:17.859 This wasn't, it wasn't a work intended to blur the lines. 1127 01:12:17.899 --> 01:12:20.340 This was like, Oh no, this is some shit. They 1128 01:12:20.380 --> 01:12:23.560 got real. This is where the stuff we're not supposed 1129 01:12:23.619 --> 01:12:28.189 to know about bled out onto the television cameras in 1130 01:12:28.229 --> 01:12:35.229 a very real, very blatant way. Um, but like I said, 1131 01:12:35.270 --> 01:12:37.789 but at the time I was primarily watching WCW. So, 1132 01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:39.689 It was one of the things we just kind of 1133 01:12:39.779 --> 01:12:43.609 heard about and everybody just had questions about. Until, of course, 1134 01:12:44.510 --> 01:12:48.949 you know, a few months later, Bret Hart debuts in WCW. 1135 01:12:48.970 --> 01:12:50.149 And it's like, oh, okay. 1136 01:12:53.930 --> 01:12:56.510 Yeah, I remember when he debuted over there, how big 1137 01:12:56.550 --> 01:12:59.649 of a deal it was. Just seeing any wrestler, but 1138 01:12:59.670 --> 01:13:02.609 Bret Hart was such a big name to go over there. 1139 01:13:02.689 --> 01:13:06.229 Such a big win for WCW, you know, big grab. 1140 01:13:07.529 --> 01:13:08.710 And they totally fucked it up. 1141 01:13:09.569 --> 01:13:11.210 Yeah, oh boy, did they ever. 1142 01:13:13.069 --> 01:13:20.899 Well, speaking of fucked up, we are putting this storyline 1143 01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:28.739 against Vince McMahon wrestling a handicap. Vince McMahon versus Zach 1144 01:13:28.779 --> 01:13:32.380 Gowen was one of the wildest, most uncomfortable, most memorable 1145 01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:36.300 feuds of the Ruthless Regression Era. Built entirely around Vince 1146 01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:40.359 McMahon targeting a 20-year-old one-legged rookie to prove his own 1147 01:13:40.539 --> 01:13:47.500 cruelty and dominance, the storyline ran through the mid-2003, peaking 1148 01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:51.800 at WWE Vengeance 2003. The feud began when Zach Gowen 1149 01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:54.399 signed with the company in 2003 as the company's first 1150 01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:59.020 one-legged wrestler. Vince McMahon, in full villain mode, treated Gowen 1151 01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:03.880 as a prop to showcase his own power. Vince McMahon 1152 01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:08.350 mocked him, humiliated him, and repeatedly put him in dangerous situations, 1153 01:14:08.890 --> 01:14:12.649 including matches with Brock Lesnar and The Big Show. I 1154 01:14:12.890 --> 01:14:17.670 very much remember that. The rivalry escalated until Vince challenged 1155 01:14:17.770 --> 01:14:22.310 Gowan to a one-on-one match at Vengeance 2003. Despite being 1156 01:14:22.310 --> 01:14:27.810 53 years old, non-wrestler, Vince McMahon insisted on working a 1157 01:14:27.939 --> 01:14:30.819 full match with Gowan, even rehearsing it for weeks in 1158 01:14:30.859 --> 01:14:34.029 advance to make sure Gowan stayed safe. During the match, 1159 01:14:34.090 --> 01:14:36.949 Gowan busted Vince open with a steel chair, one of 1160 01:14:36.989 --> 01:14:41.569 the few's most famous moments. Vince ultimately won after Gowan 1161 01:14:41.649 --> 01:14:46.350 missed a corkscrew moonsault. Gowan later said he refuses to 1162 01:14:46.409 --> 01:14:49.380 speak ill of Vince, crediting him with giving him the 1163 01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:52.699 chance and protecting him during rehearsals. He even called Vince 1164 01:14:52.859 --> 01:14:57.239 a maniac, but in an affectionate way. 1165 01:14:57.699 --> 01:14:57.939 Sorry. 1166 01:14:59.050 --> 01:15:04.550 Yeah. Do you guys remember this at all? is this 1167 01:15:05.170 --> 01:15:07.729 Doyle is this do you remember this storyline at all 1168 01:15:07.770 --> 01:15:11.989 when one-legged Zach Allen was hopping around the WWE. 1169 01:15:13.949 --> 01:15:16.460 Of course of course he was just he was just 1170 01:15:16.500 --> 01:15:18.920 the subject of a Dark Side of the Ring. 1171 01:15:18.779 --> 01:15:20.680 Episode Zach Allen was uh. 1172 01:15:21.659 --> 01:15:26.369 This season has been pretty good, the dark side, by 1173 01:15:26.390 --> 01:15:26.630 the way. 1174 01:15:26.670 --> 01:15:30.630 But the Zach Allen episode was a little thin. Yeah. 1175 01:15:30.710 --> 01:15:33.310 A little not so dark for an hour. But at 1176 01:15:33.430 --> 01:15:36.560 any rate, yeah, yeah, of course I remember Zach Allen. 1177 01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:39.060 I think he's still around, but he pops up at 1178 01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:40.680 indie shows here and there, I think. 1179 01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:42.939 He's hopping around. 1180 01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:44.819 But, I mean, in terms of. 1181 01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:47.180 what's worse. 1182 01:15:47.260 --> 01:15:49.380 I mean, that was just part of, that was part 1183 01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:51.380 of the show. That was how it was supposed to go. 1184 01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:55.520 You know, and Zach Gallen was a willing participant in it. Um, 1185 01:15:56.239 --> 01:15:59.050 the screw job was not part of the script. Brad 1186 01:15:59.060 --> 01:16:02.109 Hart was not a willing participant in it. You know, like, 1187 01:16:02.130 --> 01:16:04.590 so if you're, if you're picking between the two, I 1188 01:16:04.630 --> 01:16:05.729 would go with the screw job. 1189 01:16:07.689 --> 01:16:08.010 Yeah. 1190 01:16:08.609 --> 01:16:09.390 Yeah. Yeah. 1191 01:16:10.069 --> 01:16:13.229 Um, Dre, let's, let's hear your opinion on this. Do 1192 01:16:13.250 --> 01:16:17.229 you remember the, the, Vince McMahon fighting a handicap. 1193 01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:25.260 Yeah, I remember this. And I'm pretty much in agreement 1194 01:16:25.279 --> 01:16:30.180 with Doyle. These two don't compare. One is one of 1195 01:16:30.220 --> 01:16:34.239 the most infamous moments in all of wrestling

history. The 1196 01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:39.529 other one is the boss wrestling a one-legged guy who 1197 01:16:39.550 --> 01:16:44.449 was signed to the company. There's levels, and one of his... 1198 01:16:45.340 --> 01:16:50.539 One is not even remotely in the same stratosphere as 1199 01:16:50.619 --> 01:16:51.000 the other. 1200 01:16:51.939 --> 01:16:52.520 Right. 1201 01:16:53.149 --> 01:16:53.310 Yeah. 1202 01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:55.100 All right. 1203 01:16:55.159 --> 01:17:02.909 So, Montreal, screw job it is. All right. Next round. 1204 01:17:04.229 --> 01:17:10.449 Do you guys remember in 2006 when Vince McMahon hired 1205 01:17:11.130 --> 01:17:14.289 a group of men to protect him, to be his lackeys? 1206 01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:18.270 Do you remember who those men were in 2006? He 1207 01:17:21.689 --> 01:17:28.489 used them to defend himself against a reforming D-Generation X. 1208 01:17:30.909 --> 01:17:32.149 There was Pooh involved. 1209 01:17:32.590 --> 01:17:33.489 The Spirit Squad? 1210 01:17:34.010 --> 01:17:39.130 The fucking Spirit Squad. The Spirit Squad was a male 1211 01:17:39.329 --> 01:17:44.869 cheerleading team who, um, They first were attacking and mocking 1212 01:17:44.909 --> 01:17:50.770 and disrespecting and making cheerleading cheers to and about Shawn Michaels. 1213 01:17:52.289 --> 01:17:58.659 They put him in multiple handicap matches. And then we 1214 01:17:58.979 --> 01:18:04.659 saw they won the tag titles. The Spirit Squad won 1215 01:18:04.739 --> 01:18:07.479 the tag titles from Kane and Big Show. Do you 1216 01:18:07.510 --> 01:18:09.710 guys remember when Kane and Big Show were the fucking 1217 01:18:09.770 --> 01:18:12.350 tag champions? When I was a kid, I was like, man, 1218 01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:16.050 ain't no fucking way a group of fucking male cheerleaders 1219 01:18:16.069 --> 01:18:20.750 are going to beat Kane and Big Show. Boy, was 1220 01:18:21.050 --> 01:18:24.130 I wrong. They used the. 1221 01:18:24.350 --> 01:18:27.609 One of those cheerleaders was Ziggy. 1222 01:18:28.149 --> 01:18:32.909 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They used the Freebird rule, you know, so, 1223 01:18:32.970 --> 01:18:35.729 you know, not only were the Freebirds using it and 1224 01:18:35.750 --> 01:18:40.409 neither were the New Day, but also, you know, The 1225 01:18:40.590 --> 01:18:45.960 Spirit Squad. This is one of Vince's ideas, putting himself 1226 01:18:46.020 --> 01:18:49.890 in there, then involving himself and the Spirit Squad in pranks. 1227 01:18:50.449 --> 01:18:56.409 and beatdowns with slime being dumped on them poo from 1228 01:18:56.430 --> 01:19:01.399 the ceiling falling down which we assume was supposed to 1229 01:19:01.439 --> 01:19:03.649 be poo a lot of people were probably like no 1230 01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:07.460 it was pudding or dirt or mud but you know 1231 01:19:07.640 --> 01:19:09.380 as we learn more and more about Vince as I 1232 01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:14.750 get older I realize it's probably Pooh. It's probably Pooh. 1233 01:19:15.689 --> 01:19:16.670 It's Pooh, damn it! 1234 01:19:17.029 --> 01:19:20.649 He's a method actor. Yeah. 1235 01:19:21.170 --> 01:19:24.970 This one isn't as offensive. It's just Vince making fun 1236 01:19:25.130 --> 01:19:33.000 of Shawn Michaels being old and Vince also making fun 1237 01:19:33.020 --> 01:19:38.300 of male cheerleaders. Really putting his employees through shit, no 1238 01:19:38.340 --> 01:19:43.649 pun intended. uh, with humiliating these guys. Um, and like 1239 01:19:43.670 --> 01:19:45.689 we said, Dolph Ziggler being one of the guys to 1240 01:19:45.770 --> 01:19:49.720 actually make something of himself out of that group. Uh, 1241 01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:52.000 I think the last time I saw the spirit squad, 1242 01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:54.840 they were beaten up by DX and put into crates 1243 01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:58.300 that said OVW and that's where they were sent. Right. 1244 01:19:58.819 --> 01:20:02.239 Or was it OVW or is it whatever was down 1245 01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:11.810 in Florida at the time before they had an NXT? Uh, Oh, F-C-W-F-L-W? F-C-W-F-L-W, yeah. 1246 01:20:12.750 --> 01:20:16.210 Something like that. But do you guys remember the Spirit 1247 01:20:16.229 --> 01:20:18.850 Squad storyline with Vince McMahon at all? 1248 01:20:22.409 --> 01:20:27.210 Yeah, of course. I remember all this stuff. Yeah, it 1249 01:20:27.250 --> 01:20:28.850 was horrible. It was a shit. 1250 01:20:29.609 --> 01:20:32.050 Pretty sure this was after I checked out or shortly 1251 01:20:32.289 --> 01:20:33.390 before I checked out. 1252 01:20:34.850 --> 01:20:35.329 Yeah, you. 1253 01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:36.420 I do. 1254 01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:39.539 Remember them, but not much. Right. 1255 01:20:39.739 --> 01:20:44.399 So this is another one where Vince is involved somehow, 1256 01:20:44.460 --> 01:20:48.090 but he also is humiliating the shit out of some 1257 01:20:48.109 --> 01:20:52.510 of his cult workers. You know, kind of like how 1258 01:20:52.529 --> 01:20:57.170 we saw him with fighting Zach Gowen, humiliating a handicap. 1259 01:20:59.409 --> 01:21:04.979 But this is going up against the Vince McMahon... forces 1260 01:21:05.100 --> 01:21:09.050 Trish Stratus to bark like a dog segment in front 1261 01:21:09.060 --> 01:21:13.529 of a live audience. He berated her, questioned her loyalty, 1262 01:21:13.569 --> 01:21:16.710 and demanded she prove how sorry she was. The segment 1263 01:21:16.750 --> 01:21:20.399 was designed to be uncomfortable and degrading, initially pushing Vince's 1264 01:21:20.439 --> 01:21:24.539 villain persona to its extreme. This happened March 5, 2001, 1265 01:21:24.539 --> 01:21:30.020 on an episode of Raw. These escalating tensions eventually led 1266 01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:35.649 to WrestleMania 17. Trish later explained in the Mr. McMahon 1267 01:21:35.670 --> 01:21:39.329 Netflix docuseries that the segment was meant to shock and 1268

01:21:39.449 --> 01:21:45.520 set up their eventual revenge at WrestleMania. What is more degrading, 1269 01:21:45.539 --> 01:21:47.739 I guess, for your coworkers? Making them bark like a 1270 01:21:47.779 --> 01:21:51.439 dog or getting shit and slime dumped on you week 1271 01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:55.220 after week? Do you guys remember this segment at all? 1272 01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:02.819 Very much so. I think this was was the beginning 1273 01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:10.539 of Trish Stratus becoming, I guess, a liked character. She 1274 01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:14.180 wasn't fully on babyface quite yet, but this was the 1275 01:22:14.220 --> 01:22:19.600 start of her turn as a character in WWE from 1276 01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:24.029 just being, you know, a valet or a vixen to 1277 01:22:24.170 --> 01:22:29.850 actually becoming a more well-developed on-screen character and eventually becoming 1278 01:22:29.890 --> 01:22:30.909 an actual wrestler. 1279 01:22:30.930 --> 01:22:31.510 Mm-hmm. 1280 01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:35.199 Because, obviously, after going out of this, she started to 1281 01:22:35.220 --> 01:22:37.399 feud with, I think, Stephanie McMahon. And one of her 1282 01:22:37.439 --> 01:22:43.949 first matches was with Stephanie McMahon. And I remember watching 1283 01:22:43.989 --> 01:22:47.470 this segment. I think when I was watching it, like, 1284 01:22:47.550 --> 01:22:52.750 in real time, I remember feeling empathy for Trish. Right. 1285 01:22:52.869 --> 01:22:55.130 This is when I realized that, like, you know, she 1286 01:22:55.170 --> 01:22:58.109 could actually, she was, one of the talents that she 1287 01:22:58.149 --> 01:23:04.020 had was her ability to emote. And it showed in 1288 01:23:04.060 --> 01:23:09.180 this segment. And I mean, again, not too dissimilar from 1289 01:23:09.300 --> 01:23:15.130 the last matchup we had. Comparing this to the Spirit Squad, again, 1290 01:23:15.149 --> 01:23:20.250 there's levels. One is definitively worse than the other, and 1291 01:23:20.310 --> 01:23:25.489 it's Vince-Trish segment far worse than anything that ever happened 1292 01:23:25.529 --> 01:23:26.409 in the Spirit Squad. 1293 01:23:27.039 --> 01:23:32.220 Right. Okay. Doyle, do you got anything? Do you want 1294 01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:33.619 to put in here any input? 1295 01:23:36.149 --> 01:23:42.369 No, I tend to agree with what Dre said. I 1296 01:23:42.590 --> 01:23:45.010 think the only way that the Spirit Squad even competes 1297 01:23:45.069 --> 01:23:47.229 is just the fact that there's more of them, and 1298 01:23:47.250 --> 01:23:50.989 it happened more times. So it's like a quality versus 1299 01:23:51.029 --> 01:23:52.369 quantity kind of thing. 1300 01:23:52.390 --> 01:23:53.250 Yeah, yeah. 1301 01:23:53.489 --> 01:23:57.630 But I think the quality, in this case, wins out. 1302 01:23:57.649 --> 01:23:58.720 Right, right. 1303 01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:00.340 Yeah, so what? 1304 01:24:00.380 --> 01:24:03.060 You know, those kids, if it was good enough for 1305 01:24:03.100 --> 01:24:04.939 those kids and you can't do that on television, you 1306 01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:08.479 get slime on their heads, it's fine for the Spirit Squad, too. 1307 01:24:09.479 --> 01:24:09.760 Right. 1308 01:24:10.020 --> 01:24:12.939 So, yeah, I think the Trish stuff was worse. 1309 01:24:13.970 --> 01:24:18.710 All right. Park Like a Dog segment moves on to 1310 01:24:18.750 --> 01:24:22.710 the next round. All right, next one. Do you guys 1311 01:24:22.750 --> 01:24:28.260 recall the storyline summary where Vince sedates Linda McMahon? This 1312 01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:32.840 angle took place in late 2000, early 2001. Very similar 1313 01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:38.529 to leading into what we spoke about last round. During 1314 01:24:38.569 --> 01:24:40.970 Vince's feud with his own son Shane and his off-screen 1315 01:24:40.989 --> 01:24:45.829 affair with Trish Stratus. His on-screen, sorry. In the storyline, 1316 01:24:45.890 --> 01:24:49.449 Linda McMahon suffered a nervous breakdown after Vince McMahon publicly 1317 01:24:49.550 --> 01:24:54.670 humiliating her and flaunting his relationship with Trish. Vince then 1318 01:24:54.930 --> 01:24:59.949 had Lita placed in a catatonic, sedated state, sitting motionless 1319 01:25:00.010 --> 01:25:03.550 in a wheelchair, unable to speak or react. This was 1320 01:25:03.609 --> 01:25:06.949 presented as Vince's way of removing his wife as an 1321 01:25:07.189 --> 01:25:10.199 obstacle so he could continue abusing his power and carrying 1322 01:25:10.340 --> 01:25:13.699 on with Trish. Key elements of this angle include Linda 1323 01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:18.859 sat in a wheelchair, expressionless, heavily sedated. Vince treated her 1324 01:25:18.939 --> 01:25:23.789 like furniture, wheeling her around backstage and ringside. Trish was 1325 01:25:23.869 --> 01:25:27.989 forced to care for Linda as part of Vince's twisted control. 1326 01:25:28.970 --> 01:25:32.760 Shane McMahon eventually returned to confront Vince for his cruelty. 1327 01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:38.619 The storyline built towards WrestleMania 17 where Linda finally stood 1328 01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:41.439 up from the chair revealing she was no longer sedated 1329 01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:48.609 and Vince McMahon accosted Vince in the match against Shane. So, yeah. 1330 01:25:49.310 --> 01:25:52.329 Tell me, Doyle, what do you remember about this? 1331 01:25:56.260 --> 01:25:59.039 I remember that it happened, but I didn't really remember 1332 01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:00.939 any of the real details. 1333 01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:04.840 Oddly enough, she never did wake up from that coma. 1334 01:26:09.649 --> 01:26:12.050 You know, it's just some of these, when you read 1335 01:26:12.069 --> 01:26:16.529 them out loud, like on paper, they sound so fucking stupid. 1336 01:26:16.909 --> 01:26:22.810 Because then, like, somebody... Dude, there was legit a meeting 1337 01:26:23.210 -->

01:26:26.149 where people got up early, went to work, got their coffee, 1338 01:26:26.189 --> 01:26:31.460 sat in an office, and somebody somewhere pitched this idea 1339 01:26:31.619 --> 01:26:34.460 and was like, let's go for it. Let me ask 1340 01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:37.000 my wife. And she was like, awesome, let's do it. 1341 01:26:37.420 --> 01:26:42.060 Let's get our son involved. The fuck? And then, like, 1342 01:26:42.100 --> 01:26:44.729 let's get... I have a feeling it wasn't... I don't 1343 01:26:44.750 --> 01:26:47.090 feel like it went that way. Hey, Linda, can we 1344 01:26:47.109 --> 01:26:47.510 do this? 1345 01:26:47.890 --> 01:26:49.090 It was Linda, you're doing this. 1346 01:26:49.649 --> 01:26:50.409 Yeah, pretty much. 1347 01:26:50.430 --> 01:26:52.289 I don't think there was a pitch. I think Vince 1348 01:26:52.310 --> 01:26:55.229 was like, alright, here's the story, this is what we're doing. 1349 01:26:55.250 --> 01:26:56.829 This is what's happening. 1350 01:26:57.029 --> 01:26:58.149 Dre, do you remember this? 1351 01:26:59.979 --> 01:27:00.239 Yep. 1352 01:27:01.140 --> 01:27:05.500 It was stupid as shit then, and just as stupid now. Yep. 1353 01:27:08.359 --> 01:27:11.760 This was at the point where It was just too much. 1354 01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:14.680 This is at the point where everybody was starting to 1355 01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:17.460 get sick of Vince on TV all the damn time. 1356 01:27:18.020 --> 01:27:19.979 There was no Stone Cold Steve Austin for him to 1357 01:27:20.020 --> 01:27:22.319 beef with, but he felt like he still had to 1358 01:27:22.380 --> 01:27:25.100 be on TV as one of the top villains all 1359 01:27:25.140 --> 01:27:29.119 the time, so he was just forcing himself into shit, 1360 01:27:29.180 --> 01:27:31.640 and everybody was just like, dude, just get the fuck 1361 01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:33.319 off TV and let the wrestlers wrestle. 1362 01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:34.739 Yeah. 1363 01:27:36.579 --> 01:27:41.130 Yeah. Well, I got something to put this up against. 1364 01:27:44.369 --> 01:27:49.140 Survivor Series 2005. Basic Man's backstage skit with John Cena. 1365 01:27:49.729 --> 01:27:53.859 It's one of the most controversial segments WWE has ever produced. 1366 01:27:55.340 --> 01:27:58.260 Multiple wrestlers have spoken publicly about how wrong it was. 1367 01:27:59.380 --> 01:28:04.420 During a backstage segment with John Cena, Vince used the N-word. 1368 01:28:05.939 --> 01:28:08.359 And when he did, the camera immediately cut to Booker 1369 01:28:08.380 --> 01:28:12.340 T and Sharmell, who were both visibly shocked. And I 1370 01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:17.470 believe Booker T is like, tell me he did not 1371 01:28:17.590 --> 01:28:22.229 just say that. That's really all I. 1372 01:28:22.270 --> 01:28:25.050 Booker T certainly knows a lot about saying the N-word 1373 01:28:25.109 --> 01:28:25.729 on TV. 1374 01:28:26.550 --> 01:28:29.449 I know. I wonder if that's what they were leaning 1375

01:28:29.869 --> 01:28:31.210 in on. 1376 01:28:31.390 --> 01:28:33.210 They referenced it. 1377 01:28:33.270 --> 01:28:33.810 You know what I mean? 1378 01:28:33.829 --> 01:28:34.390 That was just. 1379 01:28:35.079 --> 01:28:37.220 I didn't say. 1380 01:28:36.600 --> 01:28:39.229 That was Booker T's catchphrase. It was one of Booker 1381 01:28:39.250 --> 01:28:42.159 T's catchphrases. and he's black so. 1382 01:28:41.979 --> 01:28:43.720 Leave the black. 1383 01:28:43.619 --> 01:28:47.159 Guy in let the black guy say the catchphrase put 1384 01:28:47.199 --> 01:28:51.310 a comedic spin on this otherwise extremely fucked up. 1385 01:28:51.250 --> 01:28:54.710 Segment now that I'm older I look at it like 1386 01:28:54.869 --> 01:28:57.149 I wonder if it was a jab at that moment 1387 01:28:57.659 --> 01:29:00.119 Cause somebody backstage thought this would be a funny ass segment. 1388 01:29:00.199 --> 01:29:00.520 Oh yeah. 1389 01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:01.199 Vince. 1390 01:29:01.800 --> 01:29:03.600 Vince was probably the guy who thought this was a 1391 01:29:03.680 --> 01:29:10.489 great fucking idea. Definitely not. Uh, so yeah, what was, 1392 01:29:11.310 --> 01:29:15.210 I guess this clear moving forward, the sedated wife storyline 1393 01:29:15.250 --> 01:29:22.000 or the end word, Vince and word word. All right. Yeah. 1394 01:29:22.420 --> 01:29:24.300 Yeah. Linda, was she humiliated? 1395 01:29:24.340 --> 01:29:25.159 Yeah, sure. Whatever. 1396 01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:26.739 But she was also laughing all the way. 1397 01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:27.199 To the bank. 1398 01:29:28.270 --> 01:29:31.670 Yeah. It's hard to feel too, too bad for her. 1399 01:29:31.789 --> 01:29:34.989 And as it turns out, she's fucking a garbage human being. 1400 01:29:36.369 --> 01:29:37.029 Oh. 1401 01:29:38.210 --> 01:29:38.630 Okay. 1402 01:29:38.649 --> 01:29:42.810 The whole family was in on the whole segment, so... Yeah, exactly. 1403 01:29:43.130 --> 01:29:45.710 Nothing to feel bad about there. Right. 1404 01:29:47.270 --> 01:29:52.170 This one is a big one, but it's... You know, 1405 01:29:52.369 --> 01:29:56.470 I'll just briefly go over it. On March 26, 2001... 1406 01:29:56.470 --> 01:29:59.989 During the final episode of WCW Monday Night Nitro, Vince 1407 01:30:00.010 --> 01:30:03.590 McMahon appeared on WCW TV for the first time ever 1408 01:30:03.649 --> 01:30:06.810 in a storyline. Vince announced that he had purchased WCW, 1409 01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:13.460 ending the rivalry that he had dominated wrestling for six years. 1410 01:30:14.699 --> 01:30:18.060 While Vince bragged on Raw about buying WCW, Shane appeared 1411 01:30:18.140 --> 01:30:21.060 live on Nitro and revealed that he was the one 1412 01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:24.750 who signed the contract, not Vince. The name on the 1413 01:30:24.810 --> 01:30:29.859 contract said McMahon, but it reads Shane McMahon. This created 1414 01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:33.180 a storyline that Shane has stolen WCW from his father, 1415 01:30:33.220 --> 01:30:38.100 setting up a McMahon family power struggle. We had this 1416 01:30:38.140 --> 01:30:42.649 storyline set up the WWE Invasion Angle, July through November 1417 01:30:42.670 --> 01:30:49.529 of 2001. Shane leading WCW talent against Vince's WWF talent. 1418 01:30:50.180 --> 01:30:57.140 the eventual formation of the Alliance, which was WCW and ECW, uh, 1419 01:30:57.399 --> 01:31:01.039 WWF and the Alliance versus the Alliance at Survivor Series. 1420 01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:04.539 I remember that match, even though the real purchase was 1421 01:31:04.600 --> 01:31:08.600 made by WWE, the storyline framed as a father versus 1422 01:31:08.619 --> 01:31:12.149 son battle for control of the wrestling world. So basically 1423 01:31:12.189 --> 01:31:16.149 we're talking about the failure of a company turned into 1424 01:31:16.189 --> 01:31:24.989 a storyline. Um, Yeah, I mean, this is obviously well-known 1425 01:31:25.050 --> 01:31:28.850 throughout the wrestling community. The storyline is old as time. 1426 01:31:28.970 --> 01:31:31.670 The New Testament and the Old Testament of wrestling, right? 1427 01:31:31.689 --> 01:31:38.850 I really, that's what it is for us marks. Doyle, 1428 01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:40.520 do you have anything you want to say here about 1429 01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:43.899 Vince McMahon turning this into a storyline and not making it, 1430 01:31:44.739 --> 01:31:49.149 you know, quiet? And slowly introducing wrestlers and deciding to 1431 01:31:49.189 --> 01:31:50.329 turn this into a storyline. 1432 01:31:50.350 --> 01:31:54.090 Well, what the hell else was he supposed to do? 1433 01:31:54.189 --> 01:31:54.569 I mean. 1434 01:31:55.369 --> 01:31:55.670 Right. 1435 01:31:55.770 --> 01:32:01.210 This era... This was... At the time, this was fucking mind-blowing. Right. 1436 01:32:02.130 --> 01:32:03.770 This was... This was like... This was. 1437 01:32:03.750 --> 01:32:04.829 A holy fuck. 1438 01:32:05.010 --> 01:32:07.789 Like... Because when you were a kid, all... You know, 1439 01:32:07.869 --> 01:32:08.409 it was always. 1440 01:32:09.109 --> 01:32:10.140 you know, Oh. 1441 01:32:10.159 --> 01:32:13.880 What if, what if we had WWF and WCW wrestlers, 1442 01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:17.590 the same show, you know, no, that'll never happen. Oh 1443 01:32:17.609 --> 01:32:21.250 my God. It happened. Uh, of course they fucked it up. 1444 01:32:21.829 --> 01:32:25.520 Uh, All the guaranteed money that the guys were getting 1445 01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:27.619 from Time Warner didn't help. 1446 01:32:27.699 --> 01:32:32.119 The biggest stars stayed home. But, yeah, I mean, Jesus Christ, what. 1447 01:32:32.060 --> 01:32:35.369 Do you think one of the most successful promoters of 1448 01:32:35.470 --> 01:32:36.649 all time is going to do? 1449 01:32:37.369 --> 01:32:41.449 He's going to promote. This isn't going to happen in 1450 01:32:41.470 --> 01:32:42.350 some back room. 1451

01:32:42.390 --> 01:32:46.289 This is going to happen in the splashiest manner possible. 1452 01:32:47.770 --> 01:32:51.600 I wouldn't even consider this a bad thing. 1453 01:32:51.659 --> 01:32:53.779 What the hell else is he supposed to do? 1454 01:32:54.420 --> 01:33:00.189 Yeah, Dre, let's hear your thoughts. This man put himself 1455 01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:01.750 in the storyline of buying a company. 1456 01:33:02.949 --> 01:33:07.449 Yeah, this isn't a bad thing at all. This is 1457 01:33:07.510 --> 01:33:12.109 a historical wrestling moment. I completely agree with Doyle. There's 1458 01:33:12.149 --> 01:33:15.460 nothing bad about this other than how the storyline was executed, 1459 01:33:15.500 --> 01:33:18.699 but that had nothing to do with Vince. That was 1460 01:33:18.779 --> 01:33:25.479 just circumstances of the contracts, the guaranteed contracts that the 1461 01:33:25.500 --> 01:33:29.439 top stars had from Turner and the fact that the 1462 01:33:29.479 --> 01:33:34.369 invasion storyline went on without any of WCW's top talent. 1463 01:33:35.210 --> 01:33:38.750 They had no Sting, no Hall, no Nash, no Hogan, 1464 01:33:38.829 --> 01:33:45.270 no Goldberg, no, no, who else? Let me, None of 1465 01:33:45.310 --> 01:33:49.609 those guys. No Luger. None of them. The biggest talent 1466 01:33:49.649 --> 01:33:53.850 they had was they didn't even have Scott Steiner. Booker 1467 01:33:53.869 --> 01:33:55.869 T was the biggest name that they had because he 1468 01:33:55.890 --> 01:33:59.949 was the WCW champion. And eventually DDP. Those were the 1469 01:34:00.010 --> 01:34:02.229 two biggest names they had. Other than that, it was 1470 01:34:02.310 --> 01:34:07.560 a whole bunch of who? Like the WCW tag team champions. 1471 01:34:07.859 --> 01:34:11.060 It wasn't the Steiner brothers. It wasn't. Wasn't Harlem Heat. 1472 01:34:11.100 --> 01:34:13.420 Wasn't any of the ones that were known during the 1473 01:34:13.460 --> 01:34:18.270 Monday Night War. Wasn't the Outsiders. It was a fucking 1474 01:34:18.470 --> 01:34:20.350 Palumbo and O'Hare, I think. 1475 01:34:20.899 --> 01:34:24.029 Yeah, yeah. Mark Zendrack. Yeah. 1476 01:34:25.170 --> 01:34:29.750 You had none of the names that mattered in the 1477 01:34:29.789 --> 01:34:33.850 whole rivalry to make it work. So it was doomed 1478 01:34:33.890 --> 01:34:39.970 to fail. But the effort, the making it a storyline... 1479 01:34:40.390 --> 01:34:42.789 It's not a negative thing at all. It was the 1480 01:34:42.850 --> 01:34:46.529 biggest story in wrestling. Of course it's going to be 1481 01:34:46.569 --> 01:34:51.149 a storyline. The bad thing would have been if they 1482 01:34:51.210 --> 01:34:54.770 had done it quietly and these motherfuckers would have just 1483 01:34:54.840 --> 01:34:59.159 debuted like some new signees. No, they did the best 1484 01:34:59.180 --> 01:35:01.520 as what they could. This is not a negative. 1485 01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:03.359 All right. 1486 01:35:03.729 --> 01:35:06.100 Yeah, and if you want to find a negative in there, 1487 01:35:06.479 --> 01:35:08.760 he took, during that rant, he took time out to 1488 01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:10.680 fire Jeff Jarrett for a shoot. 1489 01:35:12.180 --> 01:35:13.739 So if you want to find something in there, because 1490 01:35:13.779 --> 01:35:15.000 he was just such an asshole. 1491 01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:18.279 Yeah, he hated Jeff Jarrett so much. 1492 01:35:18.600 --> 01:35:22.100 And J-E-F-F, well, it doesn't really matter because it's going 1493 01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:24.000 to be G-O-N-E. 1494 01:35:24.819 --> 01:35:25.560 Yeah. 1495 01:35:25.819 --> 01:35:28.399 Right, yeah. That's the one thing you can maybe say negative. 1496 01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:29.800 He fired him live on air. 1497 01:35:30.300 --> 01:35:32.680 Yeah, that is fucked up. You can put that up 1498 01:35:32.699 --> 01:35:37.989 there with Well, yeah, that could be. Took over WCW 1499 01:35:38.609 --> 01:35:43.949 while firing Jeff Jarrett on air because, again, firing somebody. 1500 01:35:44.909 --> 01:35:45.289 I don't know. 1501 01:35:45.310 --> 01:35:49.350 I mean, Montreux's true job is also firing somebody technically 1502 01:35:49.609 --> 01:35:52.649 on air. I mean, somebody lost their job during that segment. 1503 01:35:53.970 --> 01:35:58.510 It's petty. It is petty, but still a dick move 1504 01:35:58.529 --> 01:36:01.510 by Vince McMahon, nonetheless. Yeah. 1505 01:36:02.920 --> 01:36:04.680 Alright, let's move on to TNA. 1506 01:36:05.340 --> 01:36:13.189 Yep. Moving along. First, one of the greatest Vince heel 1507 01:36:13.250 --> 01:36:20.500 reveals ever. This dates back to a storyline called The 1508 01:36:20.579 --> 01:36:27.680 Higher Power in 1999. The Undertaker and his administrative darkness 1509 01:36:27.699 --> 01:36:32.949 were terrorized in the WWE. They kept referencing the mysterious leader, 1510 01:36:33.449 --> 01:36:36.609 the higher power who supposedly controlled everything from the shadows. 1511 01:36:38.180 --> 01:36:42.300 For weeks, WWE teased this figure as someone incredibly powerful, 1512 01:36:42.340 --> 01:36:47.239 somebody who would change the company forever. On June 7th, 1999, 1513 01:36:47.239 --> 01:36:49.000 during an episode of For All Is War, the higher 1514 01:36:49.060 --> 01:36:52.539 power was finally revealed. Shane McMahon pulled back the hood, 1515 01:36:52.579 --> 01:36:55.539 the crowd went silent, and Vince McMahon stepped forward and 1516 01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:59.449 delivered the immortal line. It's me, Austin! It was me 1517 01:36:59.810 --> 01:37:03.810 all along. Austin's reaction was priceless, pure shock and rage. 1518 01:37:03.829 --> 01:37:08.500 This reveal showed that this man has secretly been controlling 1519 01:37:08.579 --> 01:37:12.520 the Undertaker and the Ministry the entire time, all to 1520 01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:18.539 torment Stone Cold Steve Austin. Um, yeah, I guess this 1521 01:37:18.640

--> 01:37:21.869 definitely isn't as bad as airing out somebody's dirty laundry 1522 01:37:21.930 --> 01:37:22.270 on air. 1523 01:37:22.289 --> 01:37:22.350 Uh. 1524 01:37:25.460 --> 01:37:27.039 Yeah, what do you guys remember? Wasn't it supposed to 1525 01:37:27.060 --> 01:37:30.770 be somebody else? That I don't know. This is when 1526 01:37:30.930 --> 01:37:33.449 I wasn't watching too much club wrestling. 1527 01:37:33.609 --> 01:37:35.689 There were so many rumors about it was supposed to 1528 01:37:35.729 --> 01:37:37.989 be this person, that person. 1529 01:37:38.630 --> 01:37:42.850 I feel like Christopher Daniels was one of the leading 1530 01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:48.800 suspicious candidates or whatever you want to call it. 1531 01:37:48.819 --> 01:37:50.439 I feel like it was never supposed to be Vince, 1532 01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:54.039 and Vince just made it himself because... I think three 1533 01:37:54.100 --> 01:37:56.670 people fell through and he was just like, fuck it, 1534 01:37:56.699 --> 01:37:57.140 I'll do it. 1535 01:37:57.140 --> 01:38:03.140 Yeah, this was terrible. I mean, this is an awful storyline. 1536 01:38:04.380 --> 01:38:07.159 And I feel like they botched a couple. 1537 01:38:06.899 --> 01:38:11.149 Of these reveals because they didn't get the person they. 1538 01:38:11.090 --> 01:38:12.350 Wanted to be. 1539 01:38:12.369 --> 01:38:17.609 But yeah, I mean, this was just a bad storyline, yeah. 1540 01:38:19.109 --> 01:38:20.970 Okay. 1541 01:38:21.010 --> 01:38:27.649 Pretty much. This is just bad storyline. I don't know 1542 01:38:27.670 --> 01:38:29.569 that this rises to the level of the other things 1543 01:38:29.590 --> 01:38:32.140 we've discussed. This is just a terrible storyline. 1544 01:38:32.880 --> 01:38:33.979 Yeah. Okay. 1545 01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:38.680 Yeah. I mean, is this one up against the WCW thing? Yeah. 1546 01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:41.600 Considering I put it in random and this is what 1547 01:38:41.699 --> 01:38:44.649 it put itself up against. And I was not able 1548 01:38:44.710 --> 01:38:48.250 to witness the Austin. It was me, Austin all along. 1549 01:38:48.979 --> 01:38:52.189 you know, when this was around, I wasn't watching then 1550 01:38:52.210 --> 01:38:53.949 as much. 1551 01:38:54.029 --> 01:38:58.609 So, I mean, I guess if you've got to pick 1552 01:38:58.689 --> 01:39:02.689 one of the two, I guess I'll pick the higher 1553 01:39:02.750 --> 01:39:06.199 power just because, yeah, that's what I would do. Cause 1554 01:39:06.520 --> 01:39:08.739 one of them is not a negative and the other 1555 01:39:08.819 --> 01:39:13.000 one is just a bad storyline. So I guess by default, 1556 01:39:13.100 --> 01:39:17.060 that one goes ahead. But realistically, I don't know that 1557 01:39:17.100 --> 01:39:18.310 either one of these qualify. 1558 01:39:18.909 --> 01:39:19.250 Mm-hmm. 1559 01:39:20.850 --> 01:39:22.960 Okay. This will be a lot easier in the next 1560 01:39:23.020 --> 01:39:23.760 few rounds, then. 1561 01:39:25.100 --> 01:39:25.350 Uh.... 1562 01:39:29.220 --> 01:39:30.000 Oh, my God. 1563 01:39:30.020 --> 01:39:31.420 And, uh. 1564 01:39:31.979 --> 01:39:38.989 The next one... Do you guys remember when Vince McMahon, 1565 01:39:39.729 --> 01:39:45.229 in 2007, was feuding with Bobby Lashley for their ECW title? 1566 01:39:46.250 --> 01:39:46.369 And. 1567 01:39:47.550 --> 01:39:51.409 After Lashley embarrassed Vince multiple times, especially during the Battle 1568 01:39:51.430 --> 01:39:54.720 of the Billionaires, which we'll get to, filled with Donald Trump, 1569 01:39:55.189 --> 01:39:59.779 Vince snapped and reinvented himself as a street boss parody character. 1570 01:39:59.800 --> 01:40:04.199 To sell the gimmick, Vince began appearing on the TV 1571 01:40:04.220 --> 01:40:08.760 wearing a black do-rag, a fake mustache and goatee, a 1572 01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:14.979 gold chain, baggy clothes, a dependent tough guy voice, This 1573 01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:20.859 version of Vince was called Do-Rag Vince by fans. This 1574 01:40:20.899 --> 01:40:24.680 look was intentionally ridiculous and meant to show Vince losing 1575 01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:28.520 his mind after Lashley shaved his head at WrestleMania 23. 1576 01:40:28.520 --> 01:40:36.890 He wore the Do-Rag for months, including during matches, backstage segments, 1577 01:40:36.930 --> 01:40:39.890 and even while holding the ECW title. So this was 1578 01:40:39.949 --> 01:40:44.310 not a One time offensive thing. This is a, Vince 1579 01:40:44.390 --> 01:40:47.529 did this. He went home, went to bed, woke up 1580 01:40:47.609 --> 01:40:53.670 and was like, this is still a good idea. So, Doyle, 1581 01:40:53.750 --> 01:40:55.819 what do you remember about do-rag Vince? 1582 01:40:58.180 --> 01:41:01.380 I think I've covered this before, but I saw a 1583 01:41:01.399 --> 01:41:06.149 guy that made his own do-rag Vince t-shirt. I saw 1584 01:41:06.170 --> 01:41:10.630 that MLW show I went to maybe a couple months 1585 01:41:10.670 --> 01:41:14.640 ago at this point maybe yeah I mean it's classic 1586 01:41:14.779 --> 01:41:22.100 it's classic classic awful Vince McMahon racist bullshit yeah it's 1587 01:41:22.600 --> 01:41:26.239 I mean he's such an asshole it's really just the 1588 01:41:26.279 --> 01:41:29.479 character and the guys it's really it's like this just. 1589 01:41:29.470 --> 01:41:36.670 Really drives that home yeah Dre, let's hear your thoughts, man. 1590 01:41:39.390 --> 01:41:42.430 Only two things that I remember from this, even though, again, 1591 01:41:42.630 --> 01:41:44.350 this was at the time when I was checked out. 1592 01:41:44.989 --> 01:41:49.479 But one, the one time Vince wore like a lavender 1593 01:41:49.560 --> 01:41:53.239 suit and had a lavender do-rag that matched perfectly. 1594 01:41:53.260 --> 01:41:56.680 Yeah, I remember. 1595 01:41:56.699 --> 01:42:02.770 And this is also when he used the fucking N-word. 1596

01:42:03.310 --> 01:42:03.670 Hmm. 1597 01:42:04.369 --> 01:42:05.750 During the do-right Vince era. 1598 01:42:05.789 --> 01:42:08.880 Man, it's funny how a lot of these all tie together. 1599 01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:11.020 It's like one big offensive moment. 1600 01:42:13.460 --> 01:42:13.760 Yeah. 1601 01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:14.060 Hmm. 1602 01:42:15.140 --> 01:42:15.399 Hmm. 1603 01:42:16.640 --> 01:42:16.920 Yeah. 1604 01:42:18.060 --> 01:42:26.090 So... This is going up against WWE No Mercy 2003. 1605 01:42:26.090 --> 01:42:31.090 We have storyline built around Vince McMahon trying to force 1606 01:42:31.229 --> 01:42:34.939 Stephanie out of her role as... General Manager of SmackDown. 1607 01:42:35.100 --> 01:42:38.859 Vince would believe Stephanie was defying him, undermining him, and 1608 01:42:39.600 --> 01:42:43.630 siding with wrestlers he didn't approve of, especially Brock Lesnar 1609 01:42:43.670 --> 01:42:49.189 and The Undertaker. Vince demands she resign. Stephanie refused, so 1610 01:42:49.270 --> 01:42:52.640 Vince did what only Vince would do. He booked a 1611 01:42:52.689 --> 01:42:58.319 match against his own daughter. Stipulations. If Stephanie lost, she 1612 01:42:58.340 --> 01:43:02.840 had to resign as GM. If Vince lost, he Give 1613 01:43:02.920 --> 01:43:08.890 up his power over Stephanie. Linda McMahon tried to stop 1614 01:43:08.909 --> 01:43:12.869 the match, pleading with Vince backstage. Vince ignored her. Linda 1615 01:43:13.109 --> 01:43:16.529 ended up ringside watching her husband fighting her own daughter. 1616 01:43:18.590 --> 01:43:21.550 This was not a comedy match. It was brutal. Vince 1617 01:43:21.609 --> 01:43:25.909 dominated Stephanie physically in the match. Stephanie fought back with 1618 01:43:25.949 --> 01:43:29.520 everything she had, including a steel pipe. When Linda was 1619 01:43:29.590 --> 01:43:32.789 begging for Vince to stop multiple times, he totally ignored her. 1620 01:43:33.350 --> 01:43:37.029 Vince just kept going with zero remorse. Vince refused to 1621 01:43:37.050 --> 01:43:39.369 quit until Linda finally threw in the towel to save 1622 01:43:39.390 --> 01:43:44.350 her daughter, Stephanie. Never said, I quit, though. Linda said, 1623 01:43:44.390 --> 01:43:47.409 I quit for her. After the match, Stephanie was carried 1624 01:43:47.489 --> 01:43:51.550 out crying and defeated while Vince stood there as the 1625 01:43:52.390 --> 01:43:59.350 victorious villain. Yeah, it's another... Storyline involving his family, but 1626 01:43:59.390 --> 01:44:03.210 this time we've seen matches with him and Shane, but 1627 01:44:03.229 --> 01:44:06.310 I never thought we'd get a match with him and Stephanie. 1628 01:44:06.949 --> 01:44:09.850 I mean, there was even times he put Stephanie against 1629 01:44:09.930 --> 01:44:15.680 Big Show. I remember him putting Stephanie against a bunch 1630 01:44:15.699 --> 01:44:18.500 of wrestlers. A-Train, I think, was one of them. I 1631 01:44:18.939 -->

01:44:21.800 don't know if you guys remember that. Do you guys 1632 01:44:21.840 --> 01:44:24.220 remember this at all? Doyle, do you remember this? 1633 01:44:27.100 --> 01:44:28.520 Yeah, I mean, vaguely. 1634 01:44:28.539 --> 01:44:32.060 I don't really remember the specifics necessarily, but. 1635 01:44:32.840 --> 01:44:36.020 And yeah, I definitely remember him having matches with, I think, 1636 01:44:36.119 --> 01:44:38.140 every member of the family at some point. 1637 01:44:41.029 --> 01:44:44.329 Yeah, yeah. Everybody's gotten in the ring with Vince at 1638 01:44:44.350 --> 01:44:44.869 some point. 1639 01:44:46.789 --> 01:44:48.989 Yeah, but I mean, they all got rich as fuck 1640 01:44:49.069 --> 01:44:52.630 off of this, and they're all, you know, willing participants 1641 01:44:52.710 --> 01:44:52.970 in it. 1642 01:44:53.029 --> 01:44:53.890 It's not like.... 1643 01:44:55.760 --> 01:44:58.239 Stephanie, they went out there and they said something Stephanie 1644 01:44:58.279 --> 01:45:02.930 didn't know they were going to say. I just don't 1645 01:45:02.939 --> 01:45:08.149 think there's any comparison to that and the fucking do-rag bullshit. 1646 01:45:08.550 --> 01:45:09.829 I think that's 100,000 times worse. 1647 01:45:09.850 --> 01:45:10.710 Dre, what. 1648 01:45:15.350 --> 01:45:19.390 Are your thoughts? Yeah. 1649 01:45:20.399 --> 01:45:23.079 Again, pretty much in agreement with Doyle. Do-rag Vince was 1650 01:45:23.140 --> 01:45:26.970 worse because It was outside of the family, and that 1651 01:45:27.010 --> 01:45:33.399 was insulting to many other people versus the family just 1652 01:45:34.579 --> 01:45:39.079 circling the wagon and coming up with stupid storylines to 1653 01:45:40.319 --> 01:45:46.609 line their own pockets. Between these two, Durag Vins moves on. 1654 01:45:46.630 --> 01:45:50.750 Stupid. 1655 01:45:51.319 --> 01:45:55.350 D-Rag Vince moves on. All right. Doyle, D-Rag Vince or 1656 01:45:55.550 --> 01:45:56.890 I Quit match with Stephanie? 1657 01:45:57.770 --> 01:45:58.170 Oh, yeah. 1658 01:45:58.850 --> 01:46:01.409 Yeah, yeah. D-Rag Vince. Nice. 1659 01:46:01.430 --> 01:46:02.590 D-Rag Vince for sure. 1660 01:46:05.470 --> 01:46:11.560 All right. I've been waiting for this one for a while. 1661 01:46:15.560 --> 01:46:21.310 All right. The next round we have Vince McMahon. started 1662 01:46:21.329 --> 01:46:28.569 a very, very, very special club back in 2001. William 1663 01:46:28.630 --> 01:46:30.909 Regal being the first man to ever join this club. 1664 01:46:31.369 --> 01:46:36.359 This is the Kiss My Ass Club. Vince's twisted way 1665 01:46:36.460 --> 01:46:40.739 of asserting his dominance. Wrestlers who angered him, defied him, 1666 01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:45.340 or Needed to earn their jobs back, were forced to 1667 01:46:45.399 --> 01:46:48.079 kneel and kiss his ass live on TV. It was 1668 01:46:48.140 --> 01:46:53.060 intentionally humiliating design to make Vince McMahon ultimate tyrant heel. 1669 01:46:54.520 --> 01:46:58.500 We had William Regal kiss his ass to beg for 1670 01:46:58.520 --> 01:47:00.079 his job back in 2001. 2001 to 2002, there was 1671 01:47:00.100 --> 01:47:04.500 a Jim Ross segment. On a 2001 episode of Raw, 1672 01:47:04.520 --> 01:47:13.949 Vince tried to induct Jim Ross Jr., Refused. Shocking, right? 1673 01:47:14.649 --> 01:47:17.409 Leading to a chaotic segment where The Undertaker turned heel 1674 01:47:17.449 --> 01:47:23.039 and shoved JR's face into Vince's ass in JR's hometown 1675 01:47:23.060 --> 01:47:29.159 of Oklahoma. In 2001, The Rock and Rikishi closed the 1676 01:47:29.239 --> 01:47:35.000 club SmackDown on episode 121. In the December 6th episode, 1677 01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:38.289 2001 episode of SmackDown, The Rock and Rikishi humiliated Vince 1678 01:47:38.350 --> 01:47:41.350 and closed the Kiss My Ass Club giving Vince McMahon 1679 01:47:41.369 --> 01:47:44.409 a taste of his own medicine. I remember that segment 1680 01:47:44.449 --> 01:47:49.319 very well. Um, but then in 2006, the club was 1681 01:47:49.420 --> 01:47:54.020 opened once again. Uh, Shawn Michaels was forced into the club. Oh, 1682 01:47:54.420 --> 01:47:58.760 in early 2006, Vince and Shane McMahon attacked HBK and 1683 01:47:58.859 --> 01:48:05.020 forced Shawn Michaels to join the club after incapacitating him. Uh, 1684 01:48:05.729 --> 01:48:10.079 not too far behind was his son-in-law, Triple H. Uh, 1685 01:48:10.949 --> 01:48:13.260 Vince tried to induct Triple H after weeks of tension 1686 01:48:13.279 --> 01:48:16.659 involving the Spirit Squad. This was part of the DX 1687 01:48:16.689 --> 01:48:19.729 Reunion storyline. Uh, yeah, so I don't think he actually 1688 01:48:19.789 --> 01:48:21.920 got put in I think he was threatened and then 1689 01:48:21.960 --> 01:48:26.420 that's when Shawn Michaels uh eventually rejoined with Triple H 1690 01:48:26.439 --> 01:48:29.250 which to me was a great moment Triple H and 1691 01:48:29.550 --> 01:48:32.689 Shawn Michaels rejoining back together and I do recall Triple 1692 01:48:32.729 --> 01:48:39.560 H and Shawn shoving Vince's face in Big Show's ass 1693 01:48:40.090 --> 01:48:43.229 during a Hell in a Cell match. I think it was. 1694 01:48:43.250 --> 01:48:49.399 I do recall that. Yeah, it just showcased Vince, you know, 1695 01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:53.800 being petty and addictive and power hungry. It made some 1696 01:48:53.819 --> 01:49:01.189 people uncomfortable, you know. Definitely memorable moments. Jeez, I mean, 1697 01:49:01.510 --> 01:49:05.390 the Kiss My Ass Club. Tell me about it, Doyle. 1698 01:49:10.199 --> 01:49:10.640 All right. 1699 01:49:15.520 --> 01:49:19.119 Dre, do you want to tell me about it? You 1700 01:49:19.140 --> 01:49:19.859 got anything? 1701 01:49:22.060 --> 01:49:26.630 I remember it. And again, this is another thing to 1702 01:49:26.689 --> 01:49:30.630 fall under the stupid storylines of Vince McMahon. 1703 01:49:31.510 -->

01:49:33.489 Uh-huh. Yeah. 1704 01:49:33.510 --> 01:49:33.930 Just that. 1705 01:49:33.949 --> 01:49:37.109 I mean. 1706 01:49:38.810 --> 01:49:41.069 I don't really have much more to offer other than that. 1707 01:49:42.359 --> 01:49:46.699 It was a dumbass storyline that happened back then. One 1708 01:49:46.739 --> 01:49:51.810 of the many dumb egotistical storylines from Vince McMahon. 1709 01:49:52.510 --> 01:49:56.310 Yeah, I'm glad it fucking ended when it did. Doyle, 1710 01:49:56.329 --> 01:49:57.850 we lost you for a second. Welcome back. 1711 01:50:00.270 --> 01:50:03.020 Yeah, a little glitch. Glitch in the Matrix. 1712 01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:04.420 Sorry about that. 1713 01:50:06.850 --> 01:50:08.189 Where were we at? 1714 01:50:08.270 --> 01:50:09.140 Kiss My Ass Club? 1715 01:50:09.149 --> 01:50:11.000 Kiss My Ass Club, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1716 01:50:11.039 --> 01:50:11.939 Yeah, I remember that. 1717 01:50:11.960 --> 01:50:16.100 This one's a little different because it's not the family. 1718 01:50:16.500 --> 01:50:21.180 And I feel like even though you still have to... 1719 01:50:21.079 --> 01:50:23.039 You know what's going to happen before you go out there. 1720 01:50:23.060 --> 01:50:23.840 You agree to it. 1721 01:50:23.979 --> 01:50:26.359 I feel like there's more pressure from some people that 1722 01:50:26.399 --> 01:50:28.560 may not have wanted to participate in this. 1723 01:50:29.640 --> 01:50:31.880 That if they did not participate in it, there may 1724 01:50:31.920 --> 01:50:37.720 be repercussions. So this one's a little... A little worse 1725 01:50:37.760 --> 01:50:39.420 than some of the family ones, I think. 1726 01:50:44.050 --> 01:50:47.449 What was the other one? He has done the other one, yeah. 1727 01:50:47.510 --> 01:50:49.659 I have done the other one. 1728 01:50:49.710 --> 01:50:50.850 Okay. 1729 01:50:50.989 --> 01:50:53.689 Yeah, so the other storyline we're going to put here 1730 01:50:55.689 --> 01:51:00.409 is this storyline started in April of 2006. This involved 1731 01:51:00.449 --> 01:51:04.520 Vince McMahon feuding with Shawn Michaels. It accumulated to a 1732 01:51:04.640 --> 01:51:08.500 tag team match, Backlash, in 2006, where Vince and Shane 1733 01:51:08.779 --> 01:51:18.060 versus Shawn Michaels and God. Yeah, after Shawn Michaels defeated 1734 01:51:18.159 --> 01:51:22.090 Vince in a brutal no-holds-barred match at WrestleMania 22, which 1735 01:51:22.119 --> 01:51:25.659 was a good match, Vince became obsessed with humiliating HBK. 1736 01:51:26.289 --> 01:51:29.989 He decided to attack Shawn Michaels' Christian faith, escalating the 1737 01:51:30.029 --> 01:51:34.819 feud into pure absurdity. Vince McMahon claiming he was greater 1738 01:51:34.859 --> 01:51:39.220 than God, mocking religion, and even creating his own parody 1739 01:51:39.300 --> 01:51:47.310 faith called McMahonism. He inserted himself into religious imaginary imagery, 1740 01:51:48.409 --> 01:51:53.430 bragged about his

commandments, and insisted he could outperform God 1741 01:51:53.470 --> 01:51:57.640 in everything. This led to Vince announcing a tag match, 1742 01:51:58.100 --> 01:52:02.300 Vince and Shane McMahon versus Shawn Michaels and God. back 1743 01:52:02.359 --> 01:52:07.420 last April 2006. When God made his entrance, Vince McMahon 1744 01:52:07.880 --> 01:52:12.699 represented him as a spotlight moving down the ramp. Vince 1745 01:52:12.760 --> 01:52:15.920 even told the referee to check God for foreign objects. 1746 01:52:16.579 --> 01:52:19.680 During the match, Vince grabbed the microphone and declared, God 1747 01:52:19.760 --> 01:52:22.779 has left the building, turning the match into a de 1748 01:52:22.859 --> 01:52:28.140 facto handicap beatdown. The Spirit Squad later interfered, turning it 1749 01:52:28.180 --> 01:52:34.260 into a seven-on-one assault on Michaels. Vince and Shane ultimately won. 1750 01:52:34.439 --> 01:52:39.859 No shit. Yeah, Wiley considered one of WWE's most ridiculous 1751 01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:44.460 angles ever. Vince openly mocked religion with this one. He 1752 01:52:44.560 --> 01:52:49.380 shocked fans and media. Shawn Michaels, with his devoted faith, 1753 01:52:49.460 --> 01:52:53.920 surprisingly agreed to do this storyline. It did push Vince 1754 01:52:53.939 --> 01:52:58.720 McMahon's villain character to extreme measures. Doyle, what do you 1755 01:52:58.760 --> 01:53:02.050 remember about God wrestling in WWE. 1756 01:53:04.310 --> 01:53:09.149 I remember thinking this was fucking hilarious because, uh, yeah, 1757 01:53:09.569 --> 01:53:12.810 I'm a lifelong atheist. I thought I, anything that wants 1758 01:53:12.850 --> 01:53:15.680 to make fun of organized religion is a okay with me. 1759 01:53:16.600 --> 01:53:18.500 Uh, yeah, I thought this was hilarious. 1760 01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:21.319 Uh, and I'm glad it's up against, uh, the kiss 1761 01:53:21.359 --> 01:53:23.880 my ass club so I can move safely, move that along. 1762 01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:26.770 Uh, Yeah, I don't think this is bad at all. 1763 01:53:26.829 --> 01:53:29.069 I thought this was hilarious. This is the one time 1764 01:53:29.090 --> 01:53:31.720 where Vince's humor, I thought, actually landed. 1765 01:53:31.729 --> 01:53:33.199 Okay. 1766 01:53:33.279 --> 01:53:34.619 It didn't happen very often. 1767 01:53:35.539 --> 01:53:35.960 All right. 1768 01:53:37.100 --> 01:53:37.460 Dre. 1769 01:53:40.340 --> 01:53:42.380 I was definitely checked out of wrestling at this point, 1770 01:53:42.399 --> 01:53:43.979 so I have no recollection of this. 1771 01:53:45.069 --> 01:53:49.470 Man, did you miss out with him wrestling with me? 1772 01:53:49.489 --> 01:53:52.270 God. Nice. 1773 01:53:53.140 --> 01:53:57.619 Alright, guys, so with that said, are we putting Kiss 1774 01:53:57.640 --> 01:54:00.920 My Ass Club to go forward or wrestling with God? 1775 01:54:00.939 --> 01:54:04.199 Kiss My Ass Club. 1776 01:54:04.539 --> 01:54:05.729 Yeah,

Kiss My Ass, man. 1777 01:54:07.010 --> 01:54:15.170 Alright, we are going to kiss your ass. Alright. Oh, boy. 1778 01:54:15.189 --> 01:54:16.109 Oh, boy. 1779 01:54:18.350 --> 01:54:25.699 Vince McMahon has come up with dumber... and dumber things. 1780 01:54:25.720 --> 01:54:33.119 I can't believe some of these storylines actually pass. Do 1781 01:54:33.159 --> 01:54:36.890 you guys remember when Vince McMahon decided to fake his 1782 01:54:36.989 --> 01:54:45.029 own death in 2007? Episode of Raw, Vince McMahon walked 1783 01:54:45.170 --> 01:54:51.720 outside the arena approaching his limousine. He was depressed. He 1784 01:54:51.800 --> 01:54:55.520 opened the door As he's walking out, there's all the 1785 01:54:55.560 --> 01:54:59.479 wrestlers lined up. This is where a famous Paul London 1786 01:54:59.539 --> 01:55:04.000 was caught laughing. He got fired. He was caught laughing 1787 01:55:04.100 --> 01:55:07.399 on air when he wasn't supposed to. Fun little Easter egg. 1788 01:55:08.460 --> 01:55:10.520 If you go back and watch it, you can pinpoint 1789 01:55:10.539 --> 01:55:15.020 exactly where he ruined his career. He walks out to 1790 01:55:15.039 --> 01:55:19.500 his limo. He gets in the limo. Explodes into a 1791 01:55:19.500 --> 01:55:23.439 massive fireball. WWE ended the broadcast with the implication that 1792 01:55:23.520 --> 01:55:29.409 Vince McMahon has been killed. WWE.com ran headlines saying Vince 1793 01:55:29.430 --> 01:55:33.109 McMahon presumed dead. They posted updates about Firefights and federal 1794 01:55:33.189 --> 01:55:39.789 agents investigating. Commentators delivered somber tributes on TV. The angle 1795 01:55:39.810 --> 01:55:43.300 was designed to generate huge buzz, and it did. Mainstream 1796 01:55:43.409 --> 01:55:47.119 media covered it heavily, and fans debated whether Vince was 1797 01:55:47.199 --> 01:55:47.840 truly gone. 1798 01:55:47.859 --> 01:55:48.000 Um.... 1799 01:55:50.949 --> 01:55:54.489 It was one of WWE's most shocking cliffhangers ever. It 1800 01:55:54.529 --> 01:55:57.750 blurred the lines between fiction and reality. It was abruptly 1801 01:55:57.810 --> 01:56:01.109 dropped due to a real-world event. It showed how far 1802 01:56:01.300 --> 01:56:04.659 WWE is willing to go to shock TV in 2007. 1803 01:56:04.659 --> 01:56:09.739 Just weeks later, though, Christmas while the tragedy occurred, WWE 1804 01:56:09.800 --> 01:56:13.319 immediately ended the storyline out of respect and necessity and 1805 01:56:13.899 --> 01:56:17.300 brought Vince. A lot of people believe this was Vince 1806 01:56:17.960 --> 01:56:22.310 trying to write himself off of TV. But to use 1807 01:56:22.329 --> 01:56:27.729 a fake death as a storyline, what do you guys 1808 01:56:27.770 --> 01:56:31.100 think about this? Doyle, what do you think about this? 1809 01:56:35.199 --> 01:56:39.979 I mean, people die in movies all the time, and 1810 01:56:41.359 --> 01:56:42.119 that's not real. 1811 01:56:42.680 --> 01:56:45.399 So that part didn't bother me, but I will always 1812 01:56:46.310 --> 01:56:48.430 associate that with the Benoit thing. 1813 01:56:49.100 --> 01:56:53.149 Is there they're so interlocked. Uh, and that, well, you know, 1814 01:56:53.210 --> 01:56:53.810 one of the great. 1815 01:56:54.029 --> 01:56:57.909 One, what if, uh, I think in wrestling is what 1816 01:56:57.970 --> 01:57:01.829 would have happened if, if the Benoit thing hadn't have happened, what, 1817 01:57:01.989 --> 01:57:05.390 how would this story have played out? Uh, I mean, 1818 01:57:05.409 --> 01:57:08.010 I don't think Vince could have possibly stayed dead forever. 1819 01:57:08.930 --> 01:57:09.489 Yeah. 1820 01:57:10.350 --> 01:57:13.270 I mean, I think eventually it would have been coming 1821 01:57:13.310 --> 01:57:18.250 out that it was a fake somehow, but you know, um, So, yeah, 1822 01:57:18.310 --> 01:57:18.630 I don't. 1823 01:57:18.529 --> 01:57:21.449 Think this one's too bad in and of itself. 1824 01:57:21.789 --> 01:57:26.189 But with the attachment to Benoit, that's always the first 1825 01:57:26.229 --> 01:57:29.489 thing I think of when I think of Vince. 1826 01:57:29.609 --> 01:57:33.810 Fates' own death. Right. And then they had to cancel 1827 01:57:33.869 --> 01:57:34.630 it because of Benoit. 1828 01:57:35.010 --> 01:57:38.439 Yep, exactly. That's what I would always think of. Dre, 1829 01:57:38.619 --> 01:57:41.279 do you remember this segment at all? 1830 01:57:43.699 --> 01:57:46.100 I do remember this because this was right at the 1831 01:57:46.119 --> 01:57:49.460 tail end of my wrestling watching because of the Chris 1832 01:57:49.500 --> 01:57:54.819 Benoit incident that happened shortly thereafter. So I remember it. 1833 01:57:55.460 --> 01:57:59.239 I remember thinking it was stupid as hell then because, again, 1834 01:57:59.350 --> 01:58:02.609 you're not going to actually fucking kill Vince McMahon on 1835 01:58:02.630 --> 01:58:04.470 the air. So why the fuck are you trying to 1836 01:58:04.550 --> 01:58:08.489 make us believe this bullshit? That was pretty much my 1837 01:58:08.529 --> 01:58:11.369 thoughts on it then. I thought it was stupid as 1838 01:58:11.390 --> 01:58:12.369 hell at the time. 1839 01:58:12.850 --> 01:58:19.119 Alright talking about stupid as hell storylines mid 2007 also 1840 01:58:19.500 --> 01:58:24.020 roughly around this time Vince McMahon did a bastard son 1841 01:58:24.100 --> 01:58:28.880 storyline so not too long after that he did a 1842 01:58:28.960 --> 01:58:32.840 bastard son So August 2007, Jonathan Koch made it clear 1843 01:58:32.899 --> 01:58:35.159 to Vince McMahon that there was a woman that had 1844 01:58:35.279 --> 01:58:39.199 filed a paternity suit claiming Vince McMahon had an illegitimate 1845 01:58:39.239 --> 01:58:43.539 child somewhere on the WWE roster. This kicked off weak 1846 01:58:43.640 --> 01:58:48.310 speculation and teases of red herrings. Vince McMahon became paranoid, 1847

01:58:48.590 --> 01:58:54.289 suspicious of everyone, and the roster was repeatedly interrogated. Original 1848 01:58:54.350 --> 01:58:58.409 plans was it was supposed to be Mr. Kennedy. According 1849 01:58:58.470 --> 01:59:02.909 to reporting from SportsCenter, WWE originally planned for Mr. 1850 01:59:02.949 --> 01:59:03.470 Kennedy. 1851 01:59:04.140 --> 01:59:07.739 Yep. It's to be revealed that it's Vince McMahon's son, 1852 01:59:07.779 --> 01:59:11.899 leading to WrestleMania 24 main event storyline involving Triple H 1853 01:59:12.079 --> 01:59:15.199 and the family, and the McMahon family. However, just days 1854 01:59:15.260 --> 01:59:19.090 before the plan revealed Mr. Kennedy failed the wellness test 1855 01:59:19.489 --> 01:59:22.909 and was suspended for 30 days, WWE had to scrap 1856 01:59:22.930 --> 01:59:29.800 the entire plan immediately. Last-minute changes... Hornswoggle. With Kennedy out, 1857 01:59:29.819 --> 01:59:34.420 WWE pivoted on September 10th, 2007, Raw in Green Bay. 1858 01:59:34.819 --> 01:59:39.130 The fraternity lawyer dramatically eliminated roster members one by one 1859 01:59:39.250 --> 01:59:44.569 until only Hornswoggle remained. Vince was stunned. The crowd popped 1860 01:59:45.369 --> 01:59:50.630 and the storyline instantly shifted from serious drama to comedy. This, uh, 1861 01:59:50.810 --> 01:59:55.279 Hornswoggle later, later confirmed, uh, he found out minutes before 1862 01:59:55.300 --> 02:00:00.199 the live event, um, After Bruce Prichard confiscated his phone 1863 02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:06.710 and told him, you're the son. Yeah, the illegitimate son storyline. 1864 02:00:08.850 --> 02:00:14.170 If he's not fair-skinned, if he's not Caucasian, please leave. 1865 02:00:14.869 --> 02:00:20.689 If he's not blonde hair, please leave. The whole narrowing 1866 02:00:20.729 --> 02:00:24.989 it down to who it was. Do you remember this Doyle? 1867 02:00:27.760 --> 02:00:28.220 Oh, of course. 1868 02:00:28.380 --> 02:00:30.680 Yeah, I mean, like I said, this is another one 1869 02:00:30.720 --> 02:00:33.840 of those storylines where they started the who's this mystery 1870 02:00:33.899 --> 02:00:36.560 person and then couldn't get the person they wanted for 1871 02:00:36.600 --> 02:00:40.079 whatever reason and had to pivot to something else. 1872 02:00:40.600 --> 02:00:45.600 In this case, Hornfall, though. Yeah. I mean, another big 1873 02:00:46.199 --> 02:00:52.119 what if. What if Kennedy hadn't pissed dirty? Where would 1874 02:00:52.140 --> 02:00:55.560 this storyline have gone? Ultimately, I think it was destined 1875 02:00:55.579 --> 02:01:03.710 to be terrible because It's stupid. Yeah. It's stupid. 1876 02:01:04.350 --> 02:01:04.529 Yep. 1877 02:01:05.149 --> 02:01:05.470 Dre. 1878 02:01:09.770 --> 02:01:12.250 I remember of this storyline, but I'm pretty sure I 1879 02:01:12.270 --> 02:01:15.289 was not watching at the time, so I don't have 1880 02:01:15.390 --> 02:01:19.180 much to offer on this one itself. Comparing the two, 1881 02:01:20.119 --> 02:01:24.079 one was genuinely controversial, one was just a storyline that 1882 02:01:24.119 --> 02:01:24.840 didn't work out. 1883 02:01:25.640 --> 02:01:25.739 Yep. 1884 02:01:26.739 --> 02:01:28.659 Yeah. Not much comparison between the two. 1885 02:01:30.039 --> 02:01:32.699 Which one should we have go for the fake in 1886 02:01:32.739 --> 02:01:37.520 his death or the bastard son? Yeah. 1887 02:01:37.539 --> 02:01:38.500 The fake in the death. 1888 02:01:40.520 --> 02:01:40.840 Yeah. 1889 02:01:41.239 --> 02:01:47.399 I think that was way more shocking and interesting. Uh, 1890 02:01:47.460 --> 02:01:50.560 all right. The last one. And then we can blow 1891 02:01:50.600 --> 02:01:54.750 through the next few rounds. Uh, This one is another 1892 02:01:54.789 --> 02:01:57.710 broad stroke, very much like the WCW storyline, but this 1893 02:01:57.890 --> 02:02:03.000 one is another Vince McMahon versus a family member. The 1894 02:02:03.140 --> 02:02:07.739 consistent storyline with Vince McMahon and Shane McMahon. His on-screen 1895 02:02:07.800 --> 02:02:12.899 rivalry is one of WWE's longest father-son sagas. Their clashes 1896 02:02:12.939 --> 02:02:18.989 happened across multiple eras, usually when Shane defied Vince's authority 1897 02:02:19.050 --> 02:02:21.279 or tried to take control of WWE away from him. 1898 02:02:22.300 --> 02:02:25.899 There's a couple chapters. We had the WCW purchase and 1899 02:02:25.960 --> 02:02:34.430 invasion in 2001. We had WrestleMania 17, Shane versus Vince. 1900 02:02:35.369 --> 02:02:38.989 That was a street fight. That's when Linda stood up 1901 02:02:39.029 --> 02:02:43.770 from her wheelchair, which we talked about earlier. McMahonism in 1902 02:02:43.789 --> 02:02:47.050 the DX view. We spoke about that earlier with the 1903 02:02:47.109 --> 02:02:51.079 religion of McMahonism. Uh, that's when he was more of 1904 02:02:51.180 --> 02:02:57.600 an enforcer. Um, and real life tension on screen 2000 1905 02:02:57.600 --> 02:03:04.399 to 2010, just with the purchase of ECW. And, uh, yeah, 1906 02:03:04.619 --> 02:03:08.949 I mean, I could go on and on, uh, about this. 1907 02:03:09.430 --> 02:03:12.210 What do you, uh, what do you guys, I could 1908 02:03:12.250 --> 02:03:19.989 go on and on, but matches with Shane, you know, uh, Doyle, 1909 02:03:20.010 --> 02:03:32.140 what do you want to squeeze in here? Hmm. It's... Basically, 1910 02:03:32.439 --> 02:03:35.819 as a whole, Vince having feuds with Shane, I mean, 1911 02:03:36.239 --> 02:03:39.890 involving his son in just so many storylines, you know? 1912 02:03:39.899 --> 02:03:42.810 Yeah, I mean. 1913 02:03:43.090 --> 02:03:43.770 It just seems. 1914 02:03:45.279 --> 02:03:49.380 Like two willing participants you know that knew what they 1915 02:03:49.399 --> 02:03:52.899 were doing and you know it doesn't this one that 1916 02:03:52.939 --> 02:03:57.420 doesn't scream evil or bad or

whatever to me right 1917 02:03:57.439 --> 02:03:59.659 it seems like that was the story yeah a ton 1918 02:03:59.680 --> 02:04:00.460 of money doing it. 1919 02:04:00.819 --> 02:04:06.430 Right right uh yeah uh drag it's the same right. 1920 02:04:08.250 --> 02:04:10.569 Pretty much. I mean, some of these matches, some of 1921 02:04:10.609 --> 02:04:13.449 them were good matches. You wind up getting out of it. 1922 02:04:13.510 --> 02:04:16.930 Some of it was some stupid shit, but I don't 1923 02:04:16.949 --> 02:04:20.210 see it as a negative thing. There's pretty much if 1924 02:04:20.250 --> 02:04:23.970 it's a family owned business with a product, the family 1925 02:04:24.010 --> 02:04:26.220 is going to be part of the product. Right. 1926 02:04:26.640 --> 02:04:30.479 There's Vince playing the bad guy or bringing his son 1927 02:04:30.539 --> 02:04:32.239 into being a bad guy with him. 1928 02:04:34.319 --> 02:04:34.800 Last one. 1929 02:04:35.199 --> 02:04:35.600 Last one. 1930 02:04:35.800 --> 02:04:38.819 We have a man had his head shaved. Live in 1931 02:04:38.840 --> 02:04:44.420 the ring, after his representative, Umaga, lost to Bobby Lashley, 1932 02:04:44.460 --> 02:04:48.100 who represented Donald Trump, the stipulation was simple. The losing 1933 02:04:48.159 --> 02:04:52.600 billionaire gets his head shaved. So he brought, you know, 1934 02:04:53.340 --> 02:04:56.840 the current president of the United States, the Hall of Famer, 1935 02:04:56.880 --> 02:05:02.800 Donald Trump. It was involved in this. You know, this 1936 02:05:02.899 --> 02:05:05.640 led to Vince, the do-rag era Vince. 1937 02:05:06.060 --> 02:05:06.260 So. 1938 02:05:08.500 --> 02:05:12.729 It's really these two storylines, which was worse, right? It 1939 02:05:12.770 --> 02:05:17.949 matches with, you know, I would say Shane, the things 1940 02:05:17.989 --> 02:05:19.909 he did to Shane. I mean, the things he did 1941 02:05:19.930 --> 02:05:25.079 to his own son over, you know, what he did. 1942 02:05:27.159 --> 02:05:29.460 Evil villain-wise, it was just the Battle of the Billionaires. 1943 02:05:29.520 --> 02:05:32.189 I don't really think it was too evil. It was 1944 02:05:32.199 --> 02:05:33.109 just shaving of the head. 1945 02:05:38.590 --> 02:05:38.869 I don't know. 1946 02:05:38.909 --> 02:05:39.590 What do you guys think? 1947 02:05:41.390 --> 02:05:47.420 Hmm. This is a tough one. 1948 02:05:47.439 --> 02:05:49.039 I guess I'm going to go with the Battle of 1949 02:05:49.060 --> 02:05:52.180 the Billionaires because billionaires are bad. 1950 02:05:52.199 --> 02:05:58.310 All right. I think I know why, but yes, we'll 1951 02:05:58.350 --> 02:06:03.170 go with that then. All right. Let's blow through this 1952 02:06:03.250 --> 02:06:05.130 next round here. This will be a lot easier since 1953 02:06:05.170 --> 02:06:08.560 we discussed all these. We got the Montreal Screwjob versus 1954 02:06:08.619 --> 02:06:11.579 the Bark Like a Dog segment. What's this going first? 1955 02:06:11.680 --> 02:06:12.779 Montreal Screwjob. 1956 02:06:13.079 --> 02:06:14.479 Montreal Screwjob. Doyle? 1957 02:06:16.920 --> 02:06:18.500 Oh, I would have said Bark Like a Dog. 1958 02:06:19.659 --> 02:06:20.520 Oh, man. 1959 02:06:20.659 --> 02:06:27.409 I'm going to say the Montreal Screwjob because that was 1960 02:06:27.529 --> 02:06:33.069 very real. N-Word Vince versus It's Me, Austin. 1961 02:06:34.340 --> 02:06:34.500 Oh. 1962 02:06:35.319 --> 02:06:35.640 N-Word. 1963 02:06:36.260 --> 02:06:36.600 Yep. 1964 02:06:36.859 --> 02:06:42.869 All right. Do Rag Vince versus the Kiss My Ass Club. 1965 02:06:46.710 --> 02:06:50.250 Do Rag Vince. Doyle? 1966 02:06:50.510 --> 02:06:52.229 Yeah, I agree with you. 1967 02:06:52.270 --> 02:06:53.149 Yep, Do Rag Vince. 1968 02:06:54.430 --> 02:06:56.800 Faked his own death or getting his head shaved by 1969 02:06:56.850 --> 02:06:57.449 a billionaire? 1970 02:06:59.140 --> 02:06:59.699 Fake death. 1971 02:07:00.319 --> 02:07:00.800 Fake death. 1972 02:07:00.819 --> 02:07:01.439 Faked his own death. 1973 02:07:02.460 --> 02:07:05.840 All right. Oh, we're down to the finals. Montreal Screwjob 1974 02:07:05.899 --> 02:07:07.359 or N-Word Vince? 1975 02:07:11.789 --> 02:07:13.750 Personal reasons, I'll go N-Word Vince. 1976 02:07:15.609 --> 02:07:18.529 Yeah, I'll agree with you. 1977 02:07:18.649 --> 02:07:19.109 All right. 1978 02:07:19.170 --> 02:07:22.329 It's going to be N-Word Vince versus Durag Vince. 1979 02:07:22.350 --> 02:07:24.350 Oh, my God. This is like a King of the 1980 02:07:24.369 --> 02:07:26.850 Ring tournament where we knew where this was going to go. 1981 02:07:26.869 --> 02:07:32.989 Durag Vince or fake your own death? I guess we're 1982 02:07:33.029 --> 02:07:33.989 going do-rag Vince, right? 1983 02:07:34.010 --> 02:07:34.609 Yeah, do-rag Vince. 1984 02:07:35.310 --> 02:07:35.750 All right. 1985 02:07:35.989 --> 02:07:36.369 All right. 1986 02:07:36.409 --> 02:07:40.489 Down to the finals, fellas. N-word Vince. Vince using the 1987 02:07:40.560 --> 02:07:43.779 N-word or do-rag Vince. Which was more offensive? 1988 02:07:46.039 --> 02:07:50.260 Well, let's see. One was a specific incident within the other. 1989 02:07:50.380 --> 02:07:56.050 So given that this specific incident was probably the highlight 1990 02:07:56.109 --> 02:07:59.010 and the worst part of it, clearly N-word Vince should 1991 02:07:59.630 --> 02:07:59.939 go out. 1992 02:08:00.279 --> 02:08:04.939 Win. But here's the thing I'm going to say, Dre, 1993 02:08:05.039 --> 02:08:08.220 is the N-word was a one-time thing. The do-rag was 1994 02:08:08.279 --> 02:08:13.899 a consecutive thing for weeks. It was an idea that 1995 02:08:13.939 --> 02:08:16.399 he decided it was a good idea to keep doing 1996 02:08:16.420 --> 02:08:19.140 the consistency. Yeah. 1997 02:08:19.180 --> 02:08:23.529 Yeah. But one was stupid, one was bad. 1998 02:08:24.170 --> 02:08:24.489 Yeah. 1999 02:08:25.310 --> 02:08:25.550 Yeah. 2000 02:08:27.260 --> 02:08:28.229 I had an epiphany! 2001 02:08:29.659 --> 02:08:30.060 Yeah. 2002 02:08:31.319 --> 02:08:36.520 Yeah. Oh my god. Alright, well, ladies and gentlemen, the 2003 02:08:36.560 --> 02:08:42.100 most offensive thing Vince McMahon has done on TV was 2004 02:08:42.140 --> 02:08:48.920 saying the N-word. I feel like we could have not 2005 02:08:48.960 --> 02:08:50.779 done the bracket and kind of figured that out ourselves, 2006 02:08:51.039 --> 02:08:52.840 but it was fun. It was fun to relive all 2007 02:08:52.859 --> 02:08:53.979 these terrible moments. 2008 02:08:55.000 --> 02:08:56.800 Uh, I feel like I called that months ago. 2009 02:08:57.279 --> 02:08:57.680 Yeah. 2010 02:08:58.619 --> 02:09:00.439 It was very, when I was doing it, I was 2011 02:09:00.520 --> 02:09:02.770 laughing because some of these things were ridiculous, but I 2012 02:09:02.779 --> 02:09:05.550 was like, okay, well I kind of know where this 2013 02:09:05.609 --> 02:09:06.909 is going to go. This is kind of, I guess 2014 02:09:06.949 --> 02:09:09.029 how they do the king of the ring tournament. We're like, 2015 02:09:09.430 --> 02:09:11.409 we know Oba's going to win. Right. But it'd be 2016 02:09:11.510 --> 02:09:14.710 funny to throw, you know, let's throw these guys in here, 2017 02:09:15.029 --> 02:09:18.960 you know? So that's how it kind of felt. Uh, Damn, 2018 02:09:19.220 --> 02:09:22.039 that's crazy. So I got to think of another bracket. 2019 02:09:22.500 --> 02:09:26.939 This was a test bracket. Maybe it'll be an episode 2020 02:09:26.960 --> 02:09:30.909 of its own. But yeah, if you guys have another 2021 02:09:30.949 --> 02:09:32.989 bracket you want us to do, let us know. We'll 2022 02:09:33.029 --> 02:09:36.890 put something aside. Dre, do you want to plug anything? 2023 02:09:39.170 --> 02:09:42.409 Instagram.com slash podcast championship wrestling as always. 2024 02:09:43.619 --> 02:09:45.819 Yeah. Doyle, want to plug anything? 2025 02:09:47.770 --> 02:09:53.439 Yeah, just check out the Facebook and say hi on Discord. 2026 02:09:54.039 --> 02:09:59.520 Yeah, absolutely. And check out PCW. We're on everywhere. We're 2027 02:09:59.560 --> 02:10:04.640 just everywhere. Yeah, this is fun. This is fun. We'll 2028 02:10:04.760 --> 02:10:08.310 get back to you guys at the post show. Let's 2029 02:10:08.329 --> 02:10:09.109 get the hell out of here. 2030 02:10:12.130 --> 02:10:12.409 Bye.