התמלול המלא של Stop Chasing Longevity Hacks What Actually Helps You Age Better with Valerie Orsoni

longer, because I love it. 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:33.520 I biohack myself always, and I think of it as a boost for longevity, for our health. 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:39.680 I want to grow old and in vitality, just like my grandfather that I always mention. 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:42.400 And the soul of living well. 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:45.520 What actually accelerates aging? 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:49.280 What keeps us mentally and physically strong as we get older? 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:53.199 Can purpose, connection, and spirituality influence our health? 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:58.159 And instead of fearing aging, what if we could learn to see it as a privilege? 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.360 Valerie, welcome to Nut Alone. 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:02.800 It is such an honor. 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:07.280 I know you've had a scare last week and very ill. 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:10.879 And so I appreciate your time on here for your wealth of knowledge. 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:12.159 Well, thank you for having me. 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:13.680 And I would not have missed it. 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:15.039 So there you go. 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:17.599 I got really excited that you are French as well. 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:20.000 And it's she speaks very good French, by the way. 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:22.240 Yes, with a very strong Canadian accent. 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:22.960 Yes, yes. 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:24.000 I am French Canadian. 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:25.439 So yes, yes. 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:36.319 And I love that you are reaching the French as well because I have a lot of French-speaking family, and sometimes they're trying to understand what I'm trying to explain. 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:44.319 And actually, that's why I've translated my book in French, my first one, and I'll do the second, because I don't think the French community has these resources. 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:46.560 So I love that you're too much the only one, I guess. 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:49.520 Yes, you are, you are, and that's why I was really excited. 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:55.919 I said, well, maybe I'm meant to meet you because a lot of my followers are French and they try and translate, you know. 00:03:56.080 --> 00:04:01.680 Well, if you go to my Instagram, I actually post every day a post in French and a post in English so everyone can get, you know. 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:02.400 I love that. 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:08.159 I actually started to do that a little bit, but just put even in the caption where it's translated French and English. 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:09.919 Don't tell any marketing expert. 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:11.280 They will tell you do not do that. 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:12.639 It's very bad for Instagram. 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:13.520 I mean, I don't care. 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:14.800 I care about sharing knowledge. 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:16.480 Yeah, sharing the knowledge, and I love that. 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:23.040 And I hope, you know, my

audience that is French speaking that they start following you and get all this knowledge, which is very important. 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:24.319 But I'd love to start. 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:30.879 So before you became the expert people know of right now, and you speak globally, and actually that's how I met you first. 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:33.360 I went to a biohack event in California. 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:40.560 I heard you speak, and I actually, I don't know if you remember, but I saw you in the expo afterwards, and your talk really touched me. 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:48.639 And I went up to you and said, wow, I really enjoyed your talk because it hit home as far as our own health journey with my children and hearing yours. 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:56.000 So I want people, our audience, to know what was happening in your own life and health that started this journey for you. 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:02.800 You know, I I usually say I started biohacking when I was uh uh 28 in 1998. 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:05.600 I'm 56 chronologically today, right? 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:11.279 But the truth is I started when I was 16, uh in 86, if you're good at math. 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:16.240 Um because at that age I was very overweight, obese. 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.319 I can use the F word, I was fat. 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.439 Not because I ate processed food, but my dad was a chef. 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:24.480 So I would eat a lot of good things, and I was not moving enough. 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:25.120 And guess what? 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:30.319 Whether you live in France or America, this French paradox is not real a reality. 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:32.480 If you eat too much, you gain weight, right? 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:33.839 That was the first thing. 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:37.680 At the same time, I was born with a lot of conditions. 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:40.560 I had juvenile arthritis, a severe form of it. 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:47.920 I had steatosis, I had so many things, and everything came kind of to uh together when I was 16. 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:49.839 I uh my dad was obese as well. 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.160 And we started studying at the library. 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:53.120 There was no internet. 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:54.800 I sound like a dinosaur, but it's true. 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:58.639 So we went to the library and we found out something that no one had talked about before. 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:00.399 You're gonna faint when I say that. 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:02.480 Something called the glycemic index. 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:03.439 It was brand new. 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:10.079 1986, it was been uh pretty much discovered or talked about by Harvard and then some universities in Australia. 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:11.839 And I'm like, what contains sugar? 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:16.160 Of course, you know, cakes and cookies and candies, but then fruits, oh, alcohol. 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:17.519 So I was 16. 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:21.600 This is when in France pretty much everyone drinks, you know, you go to parties and stuff. 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:25.279 I consciously decided to never have one drop of alcohol. 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:27.360 And to that day I've never had it. 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:31.120 I well, maybe I can say, Hey, do you want me to try just for people's sake? 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:34.319 But they people like to make me say, Oh, I tried it. 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:36.319 So I put my lips on that, oh, it's disgusting. 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.759 I find alcohol disgusting whether the bottle is 20 grand or$2. 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:41.439 You know, it's like I find it bad. 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:45.199 So anyway, my first act as a biohacker, I would say was 16. 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:49.519 I decided to never drink because it's sugar, and sugar is bad, period. 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:52.160 I don't care if people tell me the contrary. 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:53.759 Uh if you eat strawberries, it's fine. 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:56.240 I'm talking sugar, sugar, alcohol, candies, cookies. 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:01.120 And I think I started then I've seen what alcohol does to people. 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.480 I'm not talking about alcoholism, I'm talking regular consumption. 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:05.839 It's not good, period. 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.399 The French paradox, it's not true. 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.839 The study was really poorly conducted and it doesn't exist. 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:18.079 If you eat poorly, you don't exercise, and you drink alcohol, your cardiovascular health is not gonna be good. 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:19.439 So it was my first thing. 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:26.879 And I think that really saved me from whatever I was born with, it helped with, but also to not develop new conditions later on down in life. 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:30.480 Which would have been hard because culturally, I just went to the south of France, right? 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.959 Everyone, yeah, so drinking is part of the culture, even smoking still out there. 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:37.839 Smoking, not as much, but drinking, okay. 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:43.040 Today, if you are 16 and you say I'm not gonna drink, everyone is gonna respect you. 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:47.839 When I was 16, I was the black sheep, the black dog, whatever you want to say. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:49.199 I was the only one. 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:51.199 Everyone thought I was crazy. 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:52.480 I was ridiculed. 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:59.279 Even to that day at big events or big celebrations where you have all these, you know, like porcelain dishes and amazing wine. 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.199 When I say, Can I have hot water and lemon? 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:02.319 They were like, What? 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:05.439 You can't appreciate food, you're a party pooper and everything. 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:06.720 I'm like, I don't

really care. 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:07.920 It's not good. 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:10.720 But for years I was considered the old grandma. 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:14.319 I never smoked, I never drank, I didn't like to go out late at night. 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:15.600 They call me grandma. 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:17.439 Now, who do they call grandma? 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:19.759 Yeah, but you were so, yeah, exactly. 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:21.120 Exactly. 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:23.360 So just that alone, which is great. 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:28.800 I've had a lot of um, you know, people on to say no amount of alcohol is healthy, right? 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:39.600 And it what it does to what you're kind of predisposed in your genetics, like you said, what you were born with, removing alcohol altogether, that helped you tremendously. 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:45.919 Yes, but to another point, even if you have amazing genes, alcohol is not good, period. 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.000 There is not such a thing as a small amount of alcohol is healthy. 00:08:50.240 --> 00:09:00.000 All the studies that have shown that it is, have been somehow financed or funded by parties that have an interest in you consuming. 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:05.039 There is not one neutral study that shows alcohol is good, period. 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:08.879 Of course, people are gonna write after this and tell you she's wrong, blah, blah. 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.200 No, there's not such a thing as good alcohol. 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:12.559 No, I I believe in you. 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:14.480 I believe I'm very firm on that. 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.600 And it's not a religious people ask me, is that religious? 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:19.200 No, it's not religious. 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:23.120 It's not, it's not even cultural, it's it's the reverse of my culture. 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:25.039 But no, no alcohol. 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:29.440 And I think this was my first statement as a pre-biohacker. 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:30.879 I love that. 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:32.559 And then so that was just a 16. 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:34.399 You told yourself, I'm not gonna get a drink. 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:38.240 And then after that, how what was your next step to learn more? 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:42.320 Like you said, you you know, you were obese, your dad was as well. 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:45.200 So the the next step was really no alcohol. 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:46.879 And I'm gonna surprise you guys. 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:48.159 I did something crazy. 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:50.080 I ate less and I moved more. 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:51.200 Guess what happened? 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:52.080 I lost weight. 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:57.919 Oh my god, no zempic, no miraculous pills, no crazy Pilates studio. 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:00.720 Yeah, I know you guys you move, you move, you eat less. 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:02.559 And I know when people say it's not that easy. 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:06.000 I know, believe me, I was fat, I know it's not easy, but it works. 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:11.039 Now, there's another thing that's important, which does not, you cannot not talk about it. 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:12.799 It's a sugar addiction. 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:19.039 Some people have such an addiction to sugar, and alcohol is also sugar, that it's not that easy. 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:20.480 You can't just stop overnight. 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:25.440 You need to have some sort of support, you know, psychological support to stop eating it. 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:32.799 But if you are just eating too much of good things, not being addicted, yeah, it's gonna help you very fast to eat less and move more. 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:41.679 I know today people want the magic peel, they want the whoop, the ura, everything tells you, but at one point you have to be the one that makes the next step. 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:43.759 You have to be the one who makes the effort. 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:45.279 No ring is gonna do it for you. 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.240 Yeah, you're gonna have to find that passion, that purpose. 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:52.960 Like, no, I'm gonna make that decision as hard as that is to not eat so much sugar. 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:54.960 And those cravings are really strong sometimes. 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:57.200 I used to be so addicted to chocolate. 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:01.440 Listen, when I was um 17, I lived in Greece for a year. 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:04.240 And I remember I was still addicted to chocolate at the time. 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:08.799 It was that kind of temperature, like a hundred something on the island. 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:11.600 And I was craving chocolate so much. 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:18.240 I walked three miles in the sun to get my chocolate fixed, which was, by the way, disgusting and melted. 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:19.600 And I ate it like a pig. 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:25.200 And I remember having chocolate on my face and telling myself, I was only six, seventeen, like, what is wrong with me? 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:30.080 Like, now I have to hike three miles back covered in chocolate because there was no water. 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:31.519 I was like, this is not okay. 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:34.799 And I was still young, but I understood something was wrong about it. 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:36.000 That irridic. 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:40.240 Now, I've heard that sometimes certain parasites could be craving that. 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:57.440 Could you believe that it's a maybe uh an imbalance sometimes that we've I think uh I don't know if I talked about this when you were at my uh my talk at Biohackers World Conference, but um I found I've had parasites in my body all my life because I travel a lot in crazy places. 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:02.399 So I had Girardeia, Salmonella, Morganella, you know, all these bacteria are happy here. 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:05.919 It's like the

third world, you know, the third uh world war here. 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:16.720 Um so I believe some of them do crave, some of them are fed also by supplements, like if you take too much calcium, for instance, you can really feed pseudomonia bacteria and and you don't know about it. 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:26.879 So yeah, I believe very often actually an imbalanced gut can lead to addictions or to a lowered capacity to fight your addiction. 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.440 So I think you cannot just hey stop smoking. 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:30.559 It doesn't work this way. 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.120 You might want to look at the entire picture. 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.879 Yeah, that's seeing kind of your your body as a garden, right? 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.360 And seeing where do you have imbalance? 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:46.000 So would you recommend somebody that wants to start avoiding alcohol and avoiding uh sugar? 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.240 You're gonna have those cravings being really strong. 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:53.759 Would you recommend them to do maybe some fasting or uh parasite cleanse? 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:55.679 Or, you know, what would you recommend them to help? 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.320 So I'm not a doctor, so I don't give any medical advice. 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:06.480 But uh, if it were someone I know and I'm helping in my family, I would say before doing anything, let's do a full-day checkup of your body. 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:18.639 Not only blood tests, but urine test, uh, you know, um uh gut stool analysis, everything so that we have a full picture of who you are right now as a body, how how it works, what's wrong, what's right. 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:25.120 And we build on what's great and we fix what's wrong, as opposed to saying, oh, go to that 12-step therapy something. 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:30.320 Yeah, but maybe something is so wrong that's gonna make it almost impossible for you, or it's gonna be a high suffering. 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:34.240 So I really like to analyze numbers and then help people understand. 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:35.360 And we're so different. 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:40.639 I mean, we have trillions of bacteria there, so you and I will never be the same, so we don't have the same needs. 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:43.039 I would really say take the time. 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:45.440 Uh and also don't expect a quick fix. 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.159 Again, I I I love using Ozempic as a quick fix. 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.159 People think, oh, it's gonna fix obesity. 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:53.200 And people are expecting as well, it's gonna fix uh addiction. 00:13:53.360 --> 00:14:00.320 By the way, no, they thought at first, but apparently 18 months down the road, Ozempic or semaglutide does not fix addiction anymore. 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:03.039 So you really have to be careful and understand it. 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:19.360 And the big thing I like to say if you follow biohacking, longevity influencers on social media, it's not because that person has one, two, three, four, five million followers, very often half of them are actually fake, that their advice applies to you. 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:23.919 You have to do your homework, you have to listen to podcasts like this and then do your homework. 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:27.120 Chat GPT is not gonna spit out an answer for you. 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:28.639 You have to dig. 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:31.759 You have to it you have to spend hours on your own case. 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:42.960 And what I see right now, you see you're not alone, but I think a lot of people feel so alone, they talk to their Chat GPT, Claude, Jim, and I, whatever, and they think by saying, Hey, what should I do? 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.519 Whatever is spat out is the answer. 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:47.279 But it is not. 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:49.919 And you need to spend more time on yourself. 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:54.080 It's often that people spend more time at work than taking care of their health. 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:54.480 Yes. 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:55.919 And I'm like, hold on a minute. 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:01.360 If you die tomorrow, your business, your job is gonna forget you within two weeks or maybe three. 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:03.600 But your family and friends know. 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:06.240 And so you have to put yourself first. 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.759 And I know it's not easy again because we expect quick fixes. 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:11.679 We are in this credit card society. 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:13.519 I give you the money, you give me health. 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:14.559 It doesn't work that way. 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:17.919 Yes, yeah, people I see that a lot is like, well, it takes time. 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:24.159 Your body has it has a power to heal itself, but it has to find safety, so a lot of nervous system regulation. 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:35.120 And so I would do breath work with a lot of people, and and and I'm finding that a lot of the clients they are in the sympathetic, and the body is just living in a state where it can't heal. 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:35.759 Surviving. 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:39.600 Yeah, just surviving, which you know causes so much stress in a body. 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:49.440 And as a dental hygienist for 17 years and a big advocator for biological dentistry, we're also noticing the airway narrowing, which is not allowing the quality of oxygen. 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:54.559 And I know you talk a lot about stress and you know, your sleep markers. 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:59.120 So just with your own practices, what do you do on a regular basis? 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:03.919 Just, you know, you look very youthful and you've taken very great care of yourself. 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:05.759 And I know it hasn't been an easy road. 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:06.720 It's never easy. 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:08.320 Yeah, in

other words, what's the point? 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:13.120 Yes, yeah, because I mean you are a global traveler, and like you said, there's different bacteria. 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:20.879 I know I was a traveler in my early 20s too, and I've had food poison, all the different bacterias, and and finding that balance again. 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:24.480 And so, what is your protocols right now for yourself? 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:35.360 So, as much as I know stress is usually the number one cutprit in a lot of things, you don't fix a lot of things just by meditating or breathing right. 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:46.879 And I think people they like to go from one side to the next, like they've never done breath work, and all of a sudden they think they're gonna solve the planet situation and their body situation by just breathing right. 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:56.240 And I'm like, you have to plan everything and and be um regular about it, but not expect one thing again, the one thing that's gonna fix everything. 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:56.639 Yes. 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:57.919 I'm gonna give you an example. 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:01.440 Last week I had a terrible, severe anaphylactic shock. 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:02.879 I thought I was gonna die. 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:04.240 I couldn't breathe, right? 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:06.559 We don't know to that day what caused it. 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:13.440 Except I do a lot of scuba diving, like hundreds of dives, and sometimes I go deep and sometimes I get stung by strange animals. 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:15.279 We maybe we don't know them. 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:21.039 And over the course of the years, my reactions to those exposures have increased. 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:25.519 My hand swells, and then you know, so we think this was it, right? 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:28.480 So many people said, Oh, it's because you work too much. 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:32.480 No, working too much will never create an anaphylactic shock. 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:42.079 Now, recuperating from it, doing breath work, totally it's gonna help my body calm down because I was in this crazy level of stress. 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:47.119 But I think also it's a question of education and culture, and people again like the one thing. 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:53.039 So it's either you've never breathed right, then you listen to you, super Melissa. 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:55.440 Oh, she looks beautiful, she does breath work. 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:56.720 Wow, that's what I'm gonna do. 00:17:56.880 --> 00:17:58.400 I'm like, no, you have to do everything else. 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:04.799 Yes, measure yourself, do the fitness part, the nutrition part, the sleeping part, and then the breath work, and it works hand in hand, you know. 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:05.759 Yes, and mindset. 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:06.880 Mindset and mindset. 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:14.240 I think you I listened to one episode and you were talking about because you know,

I was Melissa gratitude, all about gratitude, but you said the word compassion. 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:16.960 Yeah, is it compassion was actually a stronger reaction? 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:18.799 Can you explain the study that you did? 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:21.920 It's it's a very N-1 study on myself, so it's not studying. 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:28.799 Yeah, yeah, no, but I know, but only on the on the med finding the number or something, there's no reverse study. 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:38.000 No, but I use um heart math a lot, you know, the sensor for cardiac coherence work where you do uh, you know, inhale five, exhale five. 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:47.119 And when I met the founders a year or two ago uh at their uh uh lab, we're talking about some words that impact your whole system. 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:49.279 And I was very skeptical at first. 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:54.400 I'm usually a skeptic, I don't believe in things easily, but I I tested myself. 00:18:54.559 --> 00:19:04.319 And so when I look at my coherence, if I think I'm gonna give you my secret mantra when I uh inhale five, exhale five, I usually take someone like you with a big smile. 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:14.000 I visualize someone, doesn't have to be my family or best friend, someone I've met who has an amazing smile and makes me feel secure and happy and just good in that moment. 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:24.000 And as I visualize that person, I think I'm sending that person, that's Melissa, love, uh, gratitude, energy, and compassion. 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:28.400 And when I exhale or whatever, I think she sends me the same. 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:30.160 So it's kind of a virtuous circle. 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:31.759 I send you, you send me, right? 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:33.759 I've tried different words. 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:38.319 For some reasons, compassion works way better than gratitude. 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:39.440 Don't ask me why. 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:44.559 I am super grateful of everything, but it doesn't impact my nervous system the same way. 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:46.480 And I've done it hundreds of times. 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:51.200 I have a hundred 500 sessions on my uh heart math, so I've a lot of data. 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:59.680 So if I use the word compassion, love, energy, longevity, wow, my cardiac coherence goes all the way to six, seven, which is very high. 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:03.200 If I think gratitude, it's good, three, but it's not the best. 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.279 So that shows that maybe for you, gratitude is gonna be huge. 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:09.599 Or maybe you thought it would and it's not. 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:13.039 So you find out what words because words hold so much power. 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:13.599 Exactly. 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:15.440 Say that and you have your brain mind. 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:24.559 Yes, it hears you, and I do a lot of like the affirmation, and it's interesting because compassion is how I work through you know conflicts with others, right? 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:30.000 Like when you're trying to understand them, I try to just really lead with compassion and understanding. 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:31.359 It's always easy. 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:32.480 No, it's not. 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:35.599 I mean, sometimes you don't want to be compassionate, you want to be angry. 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:36.480 How do you handle that? 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:37.599 How do you handle that? 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:39.599 Well, it takes time, it's with time, right? 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:43.759 You start noticing their patterns and go, okay, well, where is it rooted from, right? 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:50.000 And having compassionate, and and I usually just kind of pray for them, send them light, love, and having compassion. 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:53.519 So I could see how powerful that can be in that mindfulness. 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:58.079 So, you know, and that could lead into spirituality, you know. 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:03.680 Do you notice for yourself, believing that we're truly not alone, whatever your beliefs, you know? 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:05.359 Um, I'm gonna stop you. 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:07.359 I don't believe in anything like that. 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.680 No, and we have a common friend who is really strong in this, Leah, right? 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:12.960 Yes, Leah, I love her. 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:13.200 Yes. 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:16.720 I love listening to her when she talks, I'm like, oh my God, that's amazing. 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:28.240 And as soon as she's out of the room, I'm like, no, I believe in that thing when she's with me, somehow she irradiates this power, this energy, these things which I can't put a word on. 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:31.359 But somehow it's not my culture. 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:37.279 Uh, I was raised by an atheist father, which I think re-ingrained early on things in my brain. 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:42.240 I I believe I don't want to believe in extra outside external things. 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:43.279 I believe in humans. 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:47.680 And so maybe some people would say, Oh, that's some sort of spirituality, maybe. 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:56.799 But I don't have this belief that something is bigger than me or us and will either save or kill us or do harm or something. 00:21:56.960 --> 00:21:58.240 I don't have that belief. 00:21:58.400 --> 00:21:59.759 But I believe we can send love. 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:04.160 To someone, I'm not saying it's gonna cross the ocean and reach you physically. 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:10.000 But I think is my my brain hears me thinking positive thoughts, it can only be good. 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:13.519 I can see it actually from this actual you know product and I'm using. 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:22.240 I also believe that if I think, oh, this is terrible, the world is close to an end, uh, the war is starting, I feel bad, my body is

terrible. 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:23.839 I think my brain hears it. 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:30.079 And I I I believe we produce hormones in response to some of our thoughts. 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:32.720 And that's not hocus pocus, that's science. 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:33.039 Yes. 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:37.119 So I believe that I don't have the spirituality that you and Leah would have, I think. 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:37.759 Yeah, no. 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:41.279 But I'm still alive, so I think we can still survive without it. 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:44.240 You know, there's ever any judgment for me. 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:47.680 It's like I've felt it, I've seen it. 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:55.759 And of course, with my husband passing, you know, I do believe he'll give us a sign, and he's very much spiritually here and just in my practice of prayer. 00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:01.759 But in the same way, that's why I need to fix with you and Leah regularly, just something, you know. 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:06.000 Yeah, and then but that's why I love I've studied many different religions. 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:12.799 I've traveled the world so I can have compassion in what everybody's, you know, you live in vitality. 00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:19.519 And this mindset has given you life and energy, and you continue to inspire so many people. 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:21.359 So that's your gift, right? 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:24.000 And bring in that energy for everyone. 00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:29.039 So if you had some listeners, they'd love to start biohacking themselves. 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:32.640 They start to see what I can do and where do I start? 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:36.640 Because, like you said, it's you get a lot of noise, you got a lot of influencer. 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:39.680 And like myself, I am not a doctor either. 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:52.400 I'm just here to be kind of like a friend, sharing my experience with uh you talked about giardia, you know, our well water in Alaska had giardia, and we had mold toxicity. 00:23:52.720 --> 00:24:03.440 And so we have dealt with my children to try and detox mold, um, parasites, and and a lot of it was actually deeper layers of trauma, right? 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:05.680 And their fathered passing with six and eight. 00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:17.680 So deep emotional fascia maneuver and understanding that these emotions was keeping their gut issues kind of uh on fight and flight. 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:18.000 Yeah. 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.640 So addressing all of these has not been easy. 00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:22.240 It hasn't been a quick fix. 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:24.079 We're still it's never a quick fix. 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:25.200 Yes, yeah. 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:32.799 And it's, I think for someone that wants to get started and might be overwhelmed with the noise, what would you you know? 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:40.480 It's a very um, it's a recurring question because people see me doing I have a H bot at home, hyperbaric chamber at home. 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:46.559 I have all these crazy clinical level machines, and they're like, oh, like quote unquote, I'm rich, I can afford it. 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:54.240 I'm like, no, you cannot H bot away a life of uh no fitness, no good food or whatever. 00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:58.400 First, and I know it's so boring, but first get measured. 00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:05.519 Um, if you can afford it, uh I usually go once a year to Germany at a place called the Years Clinic, like a year, two years. 00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:06.079 Okay. 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:11.920 Uh they do full day, a full day of measurement from like, oh my god, this is very long, like 7 a.m. 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:13.519 to like maybe 7 p.m. 00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:16.559 But then you have a benchmark. 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:18.480 You have something to work on. 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:27.200 Now, if you're not there yet, you can ask a doctor for regular blood tests, and you can already see your lipid panels, your metabolic panels, and see where you are standing. 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:28.400 That's already a good start. 00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:37.920 But even before that, I'm pretty sure you know if you're sleeping enough or well, if you're partying, drinking alcohol, being super stressed, not eating properly, all this. 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:39.759 I you don't need an app for that. 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:40.720 You know it. 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:44.559 But sometimes we hide behind an app, it's behind a whoop, a rural. 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:45.519 But you know. 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:52.880 So the first thing would be take a piece of paper and make sure no one is watching you and write down everything you think is wrong with you. 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:57.359 Physically, spiritually, mentally, work-wise, whatever is wrong. 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:03.279 Like it could be anything like I'm the only one who takes the baby to daycare. 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.880 That bothers me, and you've never said it to anyone, and that eats you alive. 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:08.960 That could be stress level number one. 00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.319 It could be, I don't have time to eat, I eat on my keyboard at work. 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:14.559 That's not good because your shoulders are gonna be like this. 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:19.599 And so you can write this, and then you can say, Oh, I watched Netflix in bed every night until midnight. 00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:21.200 All of that you know it's not good. 00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:23.839 You don't even need Melissa or Valerie to tell you, you know. 00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:27.279 Then you can write, hey, what are five things I can start now? 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:28.880 Usually it's easy, yeah? 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:31.359 Stop Netflix or watch it. 00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:31.920 I don't know. 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:37.039 Well, you don't you for me, I only watch Netflix on my rowing machine or

on my bike. 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:37.599 That's it. 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:40.799 Well, not in the street, obviously, in a stationary bike. 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:42.720 But I never watch TV ever. 00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:43.680 I don't have time. 00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:44.559 We don't have time. 00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:46.559 Our time is limited, so I want to enjoy it. 00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:47.839 So that could be your first thing. 00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:53.519 It could be, you know what, at work, you do not schedule meetings at 12 or 1 or when it's time for food. 00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:54.960 You do your best for yourself. 00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:57.119 You and then you talk about what bothers you. 00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:58.880 But five, no more. 00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:02.160 Because if you do too much, it's called the honeymoon thingy. 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.519 So the honeymoon is you do everything perfect for two weeks. 00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:09.599 You run around and then you're exhausted by this biohacking and you stop. 00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:11.440 So just five easy, even three. 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.920 Yeah, starting simple, like simplify it for yourself. 00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:18.720 And I know it's boring, and I know it's boring, but you will thank me if you hold on to that like. 00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:19.759 Okay, we're fun. 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:21.599 I like to go to bed early. 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:24.559 You catch me like early morning. 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.039 What about dinner tonight at 5 30? 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:29.759 A friend of mine here says, Do you want to have dinner? 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.319 We met in Antarctica when we were skiing to the South Pole. 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.319 We haven't met since then, like four years ago. 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:36.880 And I said, Well, it has to be a biohacker's time. 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:38.160 So how about 5 30 tonight? 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:39.119 Yes, I like it. 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:41.200 And if you like me, you meet me at 5 30. 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:42.480 And if you don't, you're bad. 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:43.039 I mean, I don't care. 00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.799 Yes, you're charging these habits, which your circle starts to change. 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:54.880 But it's funny, in my circle of friends here now, a lot of them have start or stopped drinking, you know, and we joke around. 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.559 Oh, we go to bed early. 00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:03.200 And but of course, not everyone's kind of there, but it starts becoming, you know, how you feel, right? 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:04.000 Start listening. 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:06.480 I'm all about start learning about your body. 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:07.200 Exactly. 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:14.400 You just be so present into journaling as to how do I how did I feel when I went to bed too late, woke up the next day. 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:14.640 Yeah. 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:20.720 And you don't need, again, you don't need a machine or a wearable to tell you how you feel. 00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:22.240 As a matter of fact, if I can interject. 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.000 In this study that came out a few weeks ago, very interesting. 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:27.920 They took two groups of people. 00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:35.599 One group, uh, both of them slept, no, actually, one group slept well and one group slept poorly. 00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:36.720 That's documented. 00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:39.440 But they don't know because they don't have their watch. 00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:40.640 Maybe they do. 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:42.079 We lied on the results. 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:46.960 So we told the group that had slept well that your sleep your sleep was terrible. 00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:49.759 You only slept four and a half hours, you were awake. 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.000 If you don't remember, it's because whatever. 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:54.559 Uh no REM sleep, no deep sleep, whatever. 00:28:55.279 --> 00:29:03.680 The people who started feeling good when they woke up were fed an information that they should not feel good because they slept poorly and they started feeling bad. 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:11.039 Now the other group that actually for real slept poorly was told you had an amazing night. 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:18.880 And you can see, you have a video, I you could find it on the internet, but you see them the first half hour, they're like exhausted because the night was truly poor. 00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:30.160 We tell them you slept well, and you start, you see their bodies start, started, I don't know, kind of becoming straighter, like they were collapsing on a sofa, and they start saying, Yeah, I actually had a good night. 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:35.200 And then the end of the morning, the poor night people actually feel better than the other people. 00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:38.640 So it shows you how powerful those wearables are. 00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:43.519 And that's why I tell people, do not start by your hacking by buying a wearable. 00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:48.240 First, understand who you are, what works for you by just doing the regular thing. 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:53.279 Then use that to improve, but really improve, not to change things first. 00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:54.400 Yeah, I like that. 00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:59.599 Because sometimes I don't always wear mine as well, because I start just knowing how I feel. 00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:01.039 But it was, I was just more curious. 00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:02.720 I don't think, how am I sleeping? 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:10.079 But then I also notice that's why I don't even wear a watch on a regular basis, because I see people with their Apple watch and it's constantly that nervous system thing. 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:11.039 And I don't want one. 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:12.319 Yeah, I don't have one for those. 00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:15.759 Yes, I have the same one

actually. 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:17.680 But a watch, I feel I see it. 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:18.480 I go work out. 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:20.640 And and then oh, they're looking at their ding ding. 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:24.079 But even worse, you're having dinner with them or lunch with a girlfriend. 00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:26.240 I have lunches like this constantly. 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.200 I mean, she's gonna get some shoulder injured at one point. 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.519 But I mean, like, can you be in the now? 00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:32.960 Like, it's you and me. 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.359 Who cares if you got three likes on Instagram? 00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:35.519 Yeah. 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:37.119 I mean, do you need to know that? 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:38.000 I don't think you do. 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.720 No, you don't, and it actually affects your nervous system. 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:46.960 I mean, you don't even recognize that having this device that keeps dinging on, and then your phone and you're always available. 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:48.880 Allow to not be available. 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:54.799 You know, my phone does, you know, Melissa, if you call me and I don't pick up, my phone is always on a ringer of position. 00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:58.559 Always for everyone, even my closest people in life. 00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:05.279 I assumed that nothing should happen that if I don't see it right away, should change the course of the planet or something. 00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:07.039 Which is maybe I'm wrong. 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:08.799 It's a hard habit to do. 00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:16.079 You know, I try and be mindful of that too, because as we're on social media, you gotta balance, you know, how do you even balance that for yourself? 00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:21.440 You know, you you know, I see the purpose of me being on social media and sharing my story. 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:23.039 Sometimes it is exhausting, right? 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:30.960 And it takes a lot of your energy and you put yourself out there, but I also see how it benefits so many people and it inspires, right? 00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.759 And having this information is kind of hard to find sometimes. 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:36.000 So, how do you balance that yourself? 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:39.759 Yeah, so first half hour of my day, I do not check anything. 00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:43.039 Like I don't even look at the phone, I don't know if I slept well or not. 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:46.799 I don't know if I have received a call from um whomever. 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:47.519 I don't know. 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:48.480 And I don't care. 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:50.799 The first half hour of my day is my half hour. 00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:54.640 I do my tea, I do stretching, I do cardiac coherence, things like this. 00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:56.400 But I don't know anything outside. 00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.720 It could be a war started, I have no

clue. 00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:02.880 I could have gotten the Oscar for a movie in which I didn't play, but I don't know. 00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:06.400 And then maybe sometimes it's even longer than half an hour, it could be two hours. 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:08.960 And then at one point I'm like, oh shoot, I forgot to check. 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:10.240 At first it was hard. 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.200 I was like, and now I forget to check, which is amazing. 00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.119 It took me six months to get to that point. 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:15.680 Wow. 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:19.839 And uh today I did not check for maybe the first hour. 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:23.200 I just did a tea and I meditated somehow. 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:24.079 I don't know what I did. 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:25.680 I just you know, I read. 00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:34.079 Um and uh but yeah, I think the first half hour of the day to me uh kind of sets the tone for the day to come. 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:39.599 So if you start by checking on your beds, oh my god, please do not keep a phone on your side table. 00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:41.279 This is so bad for your brain. 00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:45.119 Also, it's bad for your um rest because mentally, you know, there's something. 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.200 So you might when you wake up at 3 a.m. 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.240 to go and pee, you might think, oh, let me check if something happened. 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:51.359 You don't need to know. 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:53.680 You really don't need to know what happened at 3 a.m. 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:55.359 You just need to go back to sleep. 00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:58.000 Uh so first half hour, I don't do anything. 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:05.680 Every morning, unless I'm on the plane, obviously, I walk outside um for like I don't know, at least 15-20 minutes. 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.079 Uh, no sunglasses, nothing on. 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:12.240 Um, and I'm not talking to people as I'm walking, I'm just looking around. 00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:15.839 Even if it's ugly, I look around. 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:17.440 Yeah, it's so important. 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:18.559 I start my day like that. 00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:23.839 I know the sunrise and I walk my kids to school, and it's so important to have that time. 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:26.880 I leave my phone away and try not to check it as well. 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.480 I think that those are simple, these are simple tools that everyone can can use. 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:31.279 And it's boring. 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:38.079 I like to use the word boring because because of social media, you expect crazy things that's gonna change your life when you wake up. 00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:41.359 Well, actually, what's gonna change your life when you wake up is to do nothing. 00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:48.559 It's first stay in bed and think, hey, it's a great day starting, a few stretches in bed, don't go crazy. 00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.119 And and and it will change your day, actually. 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:52.000 It will change your day. 00:33:52.240 --> 00:34:00.079 Yeah, it sets the tone, like you said, of your mindset and how these simple tools can make you know your life more calm or at peace. 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:05.680 And you know, I know for me that's why I've had this time before I even wake up my kids for myself. 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.920 You know, it's so important, then go right into the grind or going into work. 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:11.440 And so it's been so important. 00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:17.360 There was a few questions that I didn't want to miss because I know you have you've written 57 books. 00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:19.119 I'm actually I'm writing the 57th, right? 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:20.880 57th, that's incredible. 00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:26.719 Before I want to insist on that before AI, because now people press a button and the book is written. 00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:28.079 Yes, yes, exactly. 00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:34.079 The if we look at dates, my first 50 or 52 books were written before AI really existed. 00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:38.400 So it's it's it's me, the pen and a piece of paper or the keyboard. 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:39.679 Yeah, which is important. 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:50.400 I know my publisher, Kira Brinton, that's what she, you know, uh JOA publishing is all about that not using AI is through, you know, we actually prayer and write our books and in complete stillness, right? 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.360 And unfortunately, that's not the era we're moving in. 00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:55.599 I have nothing, by the way, I have nothing against AI. 00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:02.800 I mean, I use AI a lot in what I write because I do research with it, it helps me format my uh my thought process sometimes. 00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:06.239 So you have too many data points coming at you, and you're like, oh my god. 00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:13.599 Um, I'm studying at Stanford in their longevity lab right now, and they do actually encourage using a smart usage of AI. 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:15.440 So I have nothing against it. 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:24.880 But what I have against is people who say we look at longevity and biohacking and even spirituality from a monetary side uh standpoint. 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.079 I want to make money out of it, and I don't want to spend time on it. 00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:36.320 So I'm gonna press a button, and ChatGPT is gonna create a marketing plan, how to be rich with longevity, how to make quick bucks with a book. 00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.559 That drives me a bit crazy. 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:40.960 Not too much, it's bad for cortisol, but you see what I mean. 00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:42.400 Yes, I do, I do. 00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:50.239 And some of your books have all been about biohacking and what you've experienced around like you know, fitness, nutrition. 00:35:50.400 -->

00:35:55.280 Um, one of them is called Strong Her with an H uh for women, obviously. 00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:57.760 Um, but it's it's a very thick book. 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:03.519 It's very I think it's my best book ever, but it's super in-depth. 00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.800 And I think maybe our market now is not ready for this type of book. 00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:10.559 I it was not the best uh sales ever, but it's my best book ever. 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:19.280 I did a lot of research on what makes women stronger or not, how we've been crushed over the past millennia and how we can rise. 00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:27.360 And it's not a feminist book, it's a book about how women can become stronger and stop uh belittling ourselves, which really often we do. 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:35.679 Yeah, uh I've realized when I came to the States 26 years ago, a lot of women say sorry all the time. 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:36.559 All the time. 00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:37.039 I have a friend. 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:41.280 Like, it's okay, nothing happened. 00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:45.760 And they say sorry as I don't know if it's to deflect, to protect, I don't know. 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:54.559 But but to me, that's not a sign of weakness, but that's a sign that we've been told that we should be sorry for pretty much everything that happens in our life, which I don't think it is true. 00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:58.960 And I actually at one point I found out I was saying sorry all the time. 00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:04.719 Like I would arrive two minutes late to a studio like today and say, Oh, I'm so sorry, it's okay, it's two minutes, you know. 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:11.440 And so that book is not only about that, but it's about how we can grow um as women. 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:30.159 Again, if we talk about women until '93, you know, all the medical studies uh validated by the FDA in the US from 1977 to 1993 did not have women in the samples because our hormonal changes uh were making too much noise. 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:35.119 And this is actually written in 1977, FDA says we have to exclude women. 00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:38.960 And I think maybe people of color, we have to check that. 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:41.840 It was a crazy document written in 1977. 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.559 1993 they changed. 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:46.239 Guess when they changed in Europe? 00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:48.320 2024. 00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:57.519 Which means today in Europe, if you are prescribed a medication, chances are 99% that the studies were made on men. 00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.039 And in 93, do you know why they stopped? 00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:03.760 Do you know ambient sleeping days? 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:06.079 The studies were made only on men. 00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:19.440 And they discovered after numerous accidents involving women going to work in the morning that women require half the dose, even at equal weight, for some reason. 00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:20.800

I can't explain you why. 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:28.559 So they would be prescribed the same dose as a man, but in the morning they'd be like zombies trying to drive to work, thinking they were depressed or tired. 00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.199 No, they just had the lingering effect of the drug. 00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:32.880 And that was one of the reasons. 00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:36.639 It's not the only one there were a few drugs like this, but it's just mind-boggling. 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.159 That's they were treated like men. 00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:38.480 Exactly. 00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:39.440 I've heard that actually. 00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:42.960 I was a documentary in cons for the documentary uh Shield. 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:43.599 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:45.840 She Healed, and and that's what it was. 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.199 It was all about we've been treated like men for so long. 00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.079 And so I love that that's what you bring light to and have. 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:53.599 I'm gonna talk about it Saturday actually. 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:56.239 Is that one of the no, it's one of the points, yeah. 00:38:56.559 --> 00:39:02.079 That you'll be talking about is that how we've been treated like men and what um to be aware of right now. 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.960 And the thing is, the color of your skin does impact the treatments you should get. 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.480 Some bodies do not function the same way. 00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:22.320 And up to today, not only we had this male-female, but then we had the the color, the the the origin, like people from India do not react to certain drugs like people from Africa or Europe. 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.800 And it when you say that, people are shocked. 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:26.800 I'm like, yeah, I've never heard that. 00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:28.880 So and and there is a reason for that. 00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:36.159 So that's why now, thank God, in the new studies, they include people from all you know different different origins. 00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:40.079 And um, for instance, in France, when you're born, they check your hips. 00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:46.719 There is a region in France, it's Brittany, it's a small region in France where uh babies have issues with their hips. 00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:53.360 Now, if you do not know that some regions have specific problems, you don't check, you don't heal. 00:39:53.920 --> 00:40:01.599 So if you look at what happens in a small country like France, can you believe at the world level it's important we look at every single different things, you know? 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.239 Yeah, yeah, like more individually, yeah. 00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:06.639 Like you know, gender, age, color, everything. 00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:07.360 Everything. 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:14.239 So I love I if people wanted to start following you and uh you know have your books, how they can get hold of you. 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:21.920 So Instagram, Valerie Orsoni, uh, and then valbiohacker.com is my uh platform where I share all the knowledge. 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:27.920 I write articles, in-depth dossiers on you know, biohacking and longevity topics. 00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:29.119 Yeah, I love that. 00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:37.760 I I'm very excited to share with just the French speaking community as well, to where they can learn about biohacking, about how you want to do a podcast in French? 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:39.760 Yeah, I was actually thinking that. 00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:41.920 I was like, oh, we should do one in French too. 00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.000 So maybe we'll have to on because I have some. 00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:46.400 Someone getting me behind is not gonna understand a word. 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.039 Yeah, no, you won't, yeah, exactly. 00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:50.320 But I think it is important. 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:55.920 I think for the French community right now, uh, and that's why I've started translating my books too. 00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.239 And do you have you translated your books as well? 00:40:58.480 --> 00:40:59.440 Yeah, five languages. 00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:05.119 Five languages French, English, um, Portuguese, Serbian, and Italian. 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:06.079 Wow, excellent. 00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:06.800 Okay, I love that. 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:08.559 But I didn't translate them myself. 00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:10.480 No, but I think it's important. 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.960 I think it's important to have this information globally, and I'm so honored to have you on. 00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:24.960 So for anyone listening, deciding to uh create an environment, a healthier environment in your body, it doesn't have to be buy everything altogether. 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:25.840 Start simple. 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:29.679 Like she Valerie mentioned, maybe five things that you can change today. 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:30.880 Start journaling. 00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:34.159 So if this inspired you, please like and subscribe. 00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:36.159 And thank you again for listening.