התמלול המלא של Listener Library Chapter Two: Mysterious Movements in the Midnight Hour

florida, about an hour north of orlando. We moved frequently, so the city always varied within lake county. Lake county. Yeah, sorry, I'm still waking up. We're recording at a different time. I just switched first shift, so now we record during the day and Lindsay wakes up late. Speaker 1: 6:29 Yeah, within Lake County. Speaker 2: 6:30 It's still coffee time. Speaker 1: 6:31 Yes, this particular situation happened in Mount Dora, florida. My great-grandparents had a house and lived there for many years during their marriage. My great-grandmother even babysat me when I was really little. One of the earliest memories was crawling around on the floor and snacking on a handful of dog food. Ah, I did that too. Speaker 2: 6:54 It's fine. Speaker 1: 6:55 I used to hide. I had like a Barney chair with little teeth. Guys, this is gross. I'm so sorry. We all did dumb stuff as kids. I wasn't even in kindergarten, though, and I would like hide dog food under the teeth of the barney chair so that I could snack on it. That's funny. I never did that, but good for you, I know what dog food tastes like. I had sisters who did so. Oh okay, good, so this is apparently normal among small children. Okay, no, so no judgment there. It was never a scary place. Even after she passed there, my great-grandfather moved out, and a little while after the house was empty. We lived there for a little bit. Speaker 2: 7:35 It was the house in the family that was used when the family needed a place to go to. Speaker 1: 7:40 After we found somewhere else, my uncle moved in, stayed for a bit with his various girlfriends and friends, then moved out. Wow, uncle, Long story short, when I was an adolescent, we lived there again for the second time and it was an entirely different house. Uh-oh, oh boy, oh boy. We don't know for sure what went on in the house that changed it. We have ideas, but none of them are sustained. So we'll just say that bad energy may have been drawn in one way or another that makes sense. Speaker 1: 8:11 yeah, you don't know who uncle, uncle joe, was bringing in and out. That's true. You know, I can't remember anything starting me immediately and I honestly do not remember the order of things as they happened or progressed. So I will just list the events that I do remember, starting with the signs of what I recognize on what we were dealing with. This sounds Spoopy. It sounds like really ominous. Yes, it does. Speaker 1: 8:39 First, in my mother's room, she hated her closet right away. Just got a bad feeling from it Me too. Except it's like the door between the bathroom and the bedroom. So I get it, mom. Yeah, that's true. So she ended up taking off the closet doors because it felt so strange at night, like something was hiding behind them. I wish that I'd keep those closet doors up. I don't want it. It's like the Babadook. Them that I'd keep those closet doors up. I don't want it like the babadook. Once she did, it didn't make her feel better because it was open and looking at you, yeah, I got you. It was like something crawling and moving in the darkness. She tried to paint in there to make it brighter, but it never helped. Not to mention the closet was colder than the rest of the house. Oh no, and it had a really bad smell. Oh, what Mold Mildew, no matter how many times she bleached it and cleaned it, could get rid of that smell. Jeez, lindsay's over there, her face, she's like oh my God. Speaker 1: 9:41 Nowhere else in the house was like that. Those were her words, but she said that she smelled it too. That's disgusting. I feel like there's a dead thing in there Except not Nobody Just like the essence of death. So sorry you had to deal with that weirdness. I think when they come with bad smells like that, I personally believe it's their demonic. I 100% think. I feel that too. I'm not an expert, but I've never encountered just like a dead human who smelled you know what I mean? Speaker 1: 10:16 Well, I've always heard that demons leave awful smells too, usually Like this smell of decay or like sulfur. Or good entities can leave smells behind, like I've heard. Like if you have an angelic presence visiting, you'll smell like strawberries. Oh you know. Speaker 2: 10:32 So yeah, that's interesting, I didn't know that. Speaker 1: 10:34 Yeah, all right, we're not done yet. That was just the first part of this. Yeah, this is a long one. Oh yeah, buckle up guys, all right. Every so often around dusk, when there was just enough sun still in the sky to see outside, it was starting to get dark. I would be in the kitchen and look out the only window in the house that showed the backyard fully. We had an average-sized yard with tall fences. Somehow there would be a large black dog in the backyard. Oh no, yeah, it's a demon. It's a demon. Lindsay and I just had this discussion last week. She said aren't black dogs demons? They're usually associated with hellhounds. Yeah, now, not always. I had a dog named Bowser who passed away and he hung around for a while because he used to like lay in front of the doors and you would see like a black mass under the door you know so, not necessarily all black dogs, but seeing manifested black dogs whenever you have energy, bad energy in your home can be a sign of a demonic presence. Speaker 1: 11:43 Oh boy, bad energy in your home can be a sign of a demonic presence. Oh boy, was german shepherd like an appearance. I would see it walking or standing, but after a little bit it would look into the window like it was looking right at me, eyes reflecting the light in a bright orange. Uh, that was another thing I was gonna say is usually they look like they have like fire behind their eyes, so which I think I told you in the car the other night when we were talking. Speaker 1: 12:08 I've heard that hellhounds have like red or orange eyes. Yeah, none of the neighbors owned this dog

that we knew of, so not unless your freaking neighbor is named Lucifer. Okay, you look out your window and Lucifer's just like hey guys. Speaker 1: 12:28 Hi How's it going, cerberus, and Don't bite the dog. Cerberus and Lucifer's dog getting together for puppy play dates once a week, it's fine. Yeah, don't worry, guys, I'll clean up after him. I brought my poop bags. You guys, you don't even know his. His smells like sulfur. It is terrible. Would it just like combust, like right after the dog what you think it'd be so hot because it's a, it's a demon dog, right, so it's combust. It just like yeah, no, what if that's how cole's made? What if cole is just like oh god, that's worse. Hellhound poop, just colt downturns, worth. Hellhound poop, just colt downturns, beautiful. Well, anyway, bea, I think we solved your smell problem in the house. It's just the demon dog, you know pooping. Okay, lay down some puppy pads, alright. Speaker 1: 13:21 The black dog was strange because we could barely keep animals in that house. Any animal we kept in that house was psychotic or did everything they could to get out. Oh, okay, good, I mean not good, but I'm glad they weren't dying. You know, cats were aggressive and hostile, always ran away and never came back. We had a yellow lab and a Dalmatian that would never want to stay in the yard. It was escaping. Aww, the neighbor's gentle, sweet golden retriever that knew me and always cuddled with me Aww, got into our front yard one day. He was just staring at our house. When I approached him to bring him home, he reared up and bit me on my face oh wow, gashed my cheek near my ear and ran home oh my God. Speaker 1: 14:09 Well, she says that her great-grandma had dogs in the house before and never had problems. So this happened. Yeah, it started happening after they moved in for the second time, right After Uncle John was there Right? What were you? Was there Right? What were you up to? Or what were your girlfriends up to? Yeah, we're not judging your uncle. We don't know your uncle, but we don't know what kind of people he had coming in and out of the house. Speaker 2: 14:35 Yeah, that's true. Speaker 1: 14:36 That's true. Speaker 2: 14:44 Hello, this is Michelle, the host of Haunted Moonlight, a PodMoth Network podcast. If you are like me and enjoy anything and everything spooky, then this podcast is for you. New episodes drop every Sunday and are available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Audible and iHeartRadio. Can't wait to keep it spooky with you. Speaker 1: 15:17 Some guests were unsettled in our house, most commonly in mine and my sister's bedroom. My step-grandfather described the room as heavy and dark and he usually and he was usually insensitive and uncaring about most things. One day he stopped just inside the door and turned to my mother saying you need to get the girl, get the girls out of this room again. This is my mother's retelling. Oh, by this time she knew something was wrong with the house. But the reason we were there is because we had nowhere else to go at the time. Man, that's rough, well, and that's that's a common. A lot of people who are in haunted houses or houses with bad energy. Speaker 1: 15:57 They really they don't have the money to just up and move yeah, I know I know that feeling I when we moved in my into my grandmother's house grandmother's house I have some stories on that. Speaker 1: 16:07 I know for another time. But oh boy, here we go. What do you mean? Here we go. We've not been going. No, no, because there's there's more. But wait, there's more. Oh my god, I should be a voice actor. I think you should be Advertising, like infomercials. You know, I had the thought Last night, I think it was. I was like I should have gotten A communications and been a radio host. Oh my god, you're kind of radio hosting now, I guess. Speaker 1: 16:42 Would this count as radio. I think podcasting counts as radio. Uh, it's the modern radio show it's modern radio. We're not playing music, but we are uh kind of recording in a in a makeshift studio. Yeah, yes, I used to have a plush bear that looked a little a lot like the snuggle bear. I don't know what the snuggle bear is. It fabric softener bear oh, the snuggle fabrics. Speaker 1: 17:12 Okay, snuggle the bear got it. Yeah, I was like what is the snuggle bear? I swear it was the same bear, but I don't remember. Anyway, it sat on a shelf near my bed and some some nights the thing would just pop off, not fall, it would like be booped off. Those are her words. I know that that's Booped off. I know that that's supposed to Like that's freaky. But booped off, popped off. You know that makes me think of like booping a dog in the nose, like bo off, popped up. You know that makes me think of like booping a dog in the nose like boop. Yeah, I kind of. I kind of know what they're talking about, what she's talking about, yeah like it like yeah, just like like it jumped off. Speaker 1: 17:52 Yeah, yeah, all right, you can tell when something loses, it's different, it's balance, or or is, or if it's smacked or lurches off. Yeah, like how it falls off you can tell how it comes off. Speaker 1: 18:05 Yeah because usually they fall forward. Yeah, you had that one above the bed. Oh my god, bendy, it was Bendy, it was fucking Bendy. It was a Bendy doll and if you don't know what Bendy is, it's a horror video game. It's not super scary until you buy your wife some Bendy dolls and you set them above her bed and, like, the same one falls off all the time. And when you move it and set a different doll up there to test it and see if it's the guy in the other room hitting the wall, that one doesn't fricking fall off. Nope, it was just Bendy, and he would always end up on the bed or on the floor somewhere. Yeah, and he's like we had put other things in that area to test it and we had put other things in that area to

test it to see if it was like vibrations in the wall. But he was the only one that fell off From my memory. Speaker 1: 18:56 Some of the nights that this happened, I had dreams that the bear was climbing up my bed and killing me in different ways, commonly claws in the throat, like Freddy Krueger bear Ooh In would say so in real time. Kill you in a dream time, then be staring at you innocently again in the morning was unsettling, I would say so. I never told anyone because the reasons I hated the bear were associated with trauma and I was terrified of touching it. Aww, I don't blame you, that's rough, yeah, that's one thing. Speaker 1: 19:42 I'm always a little skeptical about anything that is said to have a spirit living inside of it, but not him. No, I mean I was gonna say because here recently I found that not all of them are bad. So we, we have, uh, adopted a spirit, a little girl named Em, who had a very traumatic death, and Lindsay was a little leery when I brought her into the house, but I was like no, it's fine, and it is fine and she's a very sweet little ghost. So if something is haunted, guys, it's not always bad, although it is not uncommon. Speaker 1: 20:21 I've heard that demonic presences will make a home inside a stuffed toy or a doll or something, and the reason that spirits will do this is because this is the closest object to what a human body is. So it's got appendages, it's got eyes, it's got a face Right. So that's why different entities will take home in these, these vessels that are and it's not always vessels that have limbs, you know, sometimes like the attached to jewelry or whatever, but so it's not really that uncommon and that's where you get like haunted dolls and stuffed animals and stuff. But they are not all negative. There are good ones. There are, you know, just people without bodies who had a traumatic death and can't pass on Right. But your snuggle bear sounds terrible. Yeah, ten out of ten would leap that thing out the window, yes, only for it to climb back in. No, at that point we're burning it with fire and salt. Yeah, salty fire, that's a hellhound fart, okay. Salty fire, that's a hellhound fart, okay, I I never. Speaker 1: 21:34 I never sleepwalked before living there or after, but it was a common thing when I was there again. This is mostly my mother's retelling. According to her, I would get up at various times in the middle of the night and stand in the doorway of her bedroom. I would just stare into her room. My mom always was a light sleeper and she said she would feel eyes on her Seeing me in the hallway. She would ask me what I needed. I would tell her that I need to go to the bathroom. Every time she would take me to the bathroom but have to help me as if I was not even potty trained. Holy cow, I didn't even usually go to the bathroom. I would just sit there until she asked if I was done. She had to help me with every step. She said my eyes were blazed over and my voice was not normal. Speaker 1: 22:18 She said one time she saw me standing there and fell back to sleep attempting to see what would happen, and she would just let me stand there. She woke up again at least an hour later and I was still standing there. In addition, one time I walked outside in my sleep, my intended destination being straight from where I pointed. I only woke up one time, mid sleepsleep walk. I was at the edge of the kitchen, stood towards the hallway with all the lights off and an item in my hand. Don't say it was a knife. Don't say it was a knife. I turned the light on so I could see. Speaker 2: 22:56 Don't say it was a knife, all the utensil drawers were open. Speaker 1: 22:58 No, no, the item in my hand, no, no, you're wrong. No, no, no, you're wrong, no, no, it was a spoon. Was a knife? It was a spoon. That's terrifying, it was a spoon. That's absolutely terrifying you spelled spoon wrong b. Speaker 1: 23:14 It reminds me of a really old video where it's like the worst death of the world. It's like it's a obviously like a parody video, funny video but the guy had a spoon and he was like just gently tapping this person over and over again until they died no, and he was like following him everywhere, just tapping with them with the spoon. Yeah, it was like the worst murderer. Speaker 1: 23:39 Oh when you said the worst death ever. I was thinking it was gonna be like a terribly slow death, but no, the guy's just sucks him killing. Okay, I got it. Uh, it makes me think of salad fingers, for some reason, I don't know why. Speaker 1: 23:53 I think of like any horror movie with a child in it, where, yeah, yeah that is a very tropey, like, sorry, you're a little tropey, your story's tropey no, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I just I can't remember like a specific title, but I I can picture a scene where, like the parent wakes up and then like a light flashes or like thunderstorming or something, and then you see a silhouette just stand there with a knife child, yeah, with a knife yeah yeah oh, that's spooky. Speaker 1: 24:25 And then the lightning flashes and they're gone. I hate that. That ain't right. Yeah, no, that is terrifying. That does sound like a mild possession, yeah, and I really hope it didn't last, because possession could be really scary. Yes, it can. Speaker 1: 24:43 Moving on to the next bit, these are like bullet points in this. Okay, bullet point, bullet point, next bit, I'm sure if it's related, but a lot of our family's various health problems started there or worsened. I'm going to tell you right now it was related. Oh, yeah, for sure you got hellhounds. Possessions, even negative human entities, can have a massive effect on, uh, human health and, like, realistically, unless you're trying to help the spirit pass on or the spirit is just like the spirit's an okay spirit who just hasn't passed on because they don't want to, it can be very detrimental. It can be

bad for you and the spirit. So, yeah, I can guarantee whatever we're about to hear it's related. Regardless, my sister's health is relevant. My sister's epilepsy was so bad she could have upwards of seven seizures or more a day. Oh, my god, a day. That is horrifying. She had to be on a feeding tube to get enough nutrients. Speaker 2: 25:42 Oh jeez, that's sad. Speaker 1: 25:43 That is awful. I hope we were able to get out of this house and like recover. Yeah, me too. The bathroom was an unsettling place. My mom often talked about feeling watched and being touched when she showered. Speaker 1: 25:57 Because my sister was so young and seizure-ridden, we took baths together so that I could help keep an eye on her while she wanted to play in the water. Make sure she ain't having seizures in the bathtub. You're right to play in the water. Make sure she ain't having seizures in the bath, are you right? One time she was sitting relaxed in the bath and I watched as her eyes started to glaze over and a seizure started. Oh no, as her body began to stiffen, her little body was folded like a lawn chair. Oh, her face pushed under the water. Oh my god. Now, the way she was sitting and how she was starting to see she was going backwards. It's unreasonable to me like she suddenly randomly flew forwards. That sounds like something took over. I know she said seizure, but that's just what it sounds like to me. But I've also never witnessed a seizure in person, so I can't really say what they look like. Speaker 1: 26:48 I don't think the eyes usually glaze over. No, I don't really like say what they look like. You know, I don't think the eyes usually glaze over. No, I don't know, I've witnessed somebody like starting to have a seizure and it's like they just they like freeze, yeah, and then they get like well, he didn't actually start to seize because we caught it in time, but I noticed something was wrong because he just stopped talking mid-sentence and froze up yeah, that's what it's. So like my papa had a seizure. I wasn't there to witness it, but that's what they described. They said basically he was like scooping the butter out and putting it in the sugar and like he just stopped. He was just like repeating himself, just scooping the butter into the sugar over and over again so yeah, I would normally pick my sister up just fine, even seizing. Speaker 1: 27:29 But as hard as I pulled on her shoulders I could barely lift her. Oh my God. Speaker 1: 27:33 I don't even remember if I got her face out of the water, but it happened so fast. I was screaming and my mom ran from the kitchen into the bathroom. My sister felt like something was pushing her under and holding her there while she convulsed. Oh my God. But the moment my mom rounded the corner and bolted into the room, the weight was gone and I was able to pull her up. Good, my mom took her out of the tub altogether. That is so scary. Yeah, oh my god, I hate that. Yeah,

at that point I'd be like you know what we're gonna go we're gonna go live in a box under a bridge. Speaker 1: 28:09 I don't give a fuck. We're going to go live in a shelter for a little while. Yeah, something that is scary. Speaker 2: 28:13 Yeah. Speaker 1: 28:14 That's an attack like a physical attack on your child. That's scary. I'm so sorry you guys had to deal with that and to have the strength to hold, yeah, that takes a lot of energy, a lot of energy. Yes, my brother was really little at the time and we had to be careful with the front door because he was adventurous and there was a high first step to get into the house. The door was always closed and locked. Normally this situation could be tossed up to an accident, but with everything else that happened, it's curious how a previously locked door was pushed open by a toddler, allowing him to fall on his face. Oh, yeah, it's. It's a little, uh, coinkydinky, I don't think so after hearing what happened with sister. Speaker 1: 29:02 Yeah, nah, coincidence, I think not right. All right, here's the last bullet point. My mom used to have these repetitive dreams where she would be walking through the house and stop at the bathroom. We had a full-body mirror on the door and she would stand there in front of it, surrounded by the same crawling dark that she described in her closet. In the dream, she recognized her grandma and my great grandma appearing behind her and wrapping her arms around her, making my mom feel safe and protected. That's exactly what I thought. She told me about these dreams years later, and it freaked me out because I had a similar one when we were living there, with nana taking my hand and leading me through the dark. This dream happened after the sleepwalking knife situation. Sounds like grandma and great-grandma were trying to protect them from whatever Sounds like it. Speaker 1: 29:56 I'm watching over them. Ancestral guardians. She finishes up with. That's all I can remember. Honestly, we were all quite glad to be out of there and truly thankful that nothing worse had the chance to happen. Since then, there has been extensive gutting and remodeling of the home. That's not good either. You know what happens when you gut a home. I think the home needs a blast, in my opinion. Speaker 1: 30:21 I think that shit needs knocked down. Well, v, we are glad that you are alive and well today and that everybody survived, because, um, you're you, uh, you have been a delight in our lives. Yeah, you called that a spooky house. I would have called that a house of horrors. Yes, yes, that is not a cheesy, spooky children's halloween movie that comes out in february and people talk about it for a year after it's released. Okay, yeah, this is like trauma. Speaker 2: 30:51 That's like. Speaker 1: 30:51 Amityville horror show. This is nightmare fuel. Yeah, so thanks for that. Submission V. Okay, so we have another submission and we're going to go ahead and delve into that. This one comes from my friend Ozzy. Hello, ozzy, I used to have a cat named Ozzy. We called him Ozymandias after the. Is he a god or? Speaker 2: 31:12 is he a king? Speaker 1: 31:13 I don't know, but he's in the anime Fate. If y'all have never seen that, you should check it out. It's good, except for Apocalyptica Wait, apocalypse, apoc. I hated that one, anyway. All the other ones are good. Bye, apocrypha. I hated that one. Anyway, all the other ones are good. Bye. Tell me Ozzy's story. Okay, so I want to Wow. I want to preface this by saying that he lived near the Lizzie Borden house and cemetery Indoor cemetery. Okay, so this is where this story takes place. Ooh, exciting. I also have not read this one either. I lived in Fall River, massachusetts, where she was buried. So me learning more about her was, and he was told about her gravesite. What, yeah, no, no, I didn't understand what you said. So they were learning more about her and they were told about her gravesite. Okay, so this is at the graveyard. Oh, okay, my friend and I at the time wanted to go give it a visit, like at 1 am in the morning. Sounds like a good idea. Speaker 1: 32:28 That's a good time to visit a graveyard I guess we had no idea where in the yard she she exactly was and there were no lights in the graveyard. Okay, got it. Old graveyard, old graveyard, yes, yeah, okay, we had lights on our phones and that's it. Okay, we were walking through the cracking jokes because we are walking around the dead. That's always fun, dark humor, good old dark humor. We were cracking jokes because we're walking around the dead. Are you sure it's not because you're spooked, right? You're like trying to make yourself feel better. Speaker 2: 33:07 Take the tension off. Speaker 1: 33:08 Yeah, I do that, it's okay. Now, up ahead by this old, limber, decaying looking tree, we see this thing. I saw it first and was like what the f**k is that? That no, that is something coming and saying. You put some respect on my name and quit cracking stupid jokes. Oh boy, wait till you hear what this thing sounds like. Oh no, it has a sound. What it looks like. Speaker 1: 33:37 Oh, okay, okay, I was like no, it talks. So they said is that a deer? The thing was it's going to look like a wendigo Tall as f**k, had long legs like a deer Hold on but the head of a dog. Speaker 1: 33:50 Uh, how tall is, I don't know? Tall as the head of a dog and the legs of a deer. The head was low and the reason we know this is because the reflection of light came from its eyes and they were glowing. Oh no, its ears were pointed up and the shape was like a Doberman, okay, but the legs were just long, longer than usual. What the fuck? It suddenly jolted in our direction and we took off running. Speaker 1: 34:20 So is this another like black dog scenario. I don't know. Is it bipedal? It sounds like it's bipedal. If it's bipedal, that ain't

no. Have you ever seen a bipedal dog? No, it said it had long legs like a deer, but it had the head of a dog, so it was like a really tall-ass dog. So does it have four legs? Speaker 2: 34:37 Yes, Okay, okay. Speaker 1: 34:38 I was imagining like Like something standing. Speaker 1: 34:40 Yeah okay, no, no, this is a like a creature, just with really weird long legs. Okay, we ran fast and looked behind us to see that it was completely gone. What, like out of thin air? Oh my god. Needless to say, after running the way we did, there was a. There was this huge monument featuring lizzie borden. We didn't even care, we just shuffled our way through the dark and out of the other side of the graveyard. Once we were able to find the path back, we didn't even care. Like you're, like I'm out, that's all this. I don't want to know where she's buried anymore. Speaker 1: 35:23 Oh my god so it sounds like this was another sighting of the black dog type deal. What kind of black dog has 10 foot legs? I don't know. What do you think it was? I don't know if it was, because here's the thing about cemeteries Cemeteries are generally hollowed ground. Speaker 1: 35:40 Yeah, which means nothing bad can actually go into a cemetery, because they are blessed grounds, they are resting places. It's not just like a mass grave, right, you know which can be, you know, negative. This is hollowed ground. Cemeteries are generally like taking care of before. You know, I mean, people are prayed over before they're buried. So it's not to say that they're not haunted. Speaker 1: 36:03 But you were there at a late hour. Yes, you were cracking jokes. That really could have been some sort of cemetery guardian. That's interesting. Yeah, it's interesting also that this happened to be the graveyard that Lizzie Borden was buried in. Well, and you know, I've heard that her house is very haunted. Oh, yeah, they actually Ozzie mentioned after the story that they used to walk by the house that she lived in on their way to school every day. Yeah, okay, that's gross. Speaker 1: 36:32 Yeah, yeah, but as far as the cemetery goes, I think it had to be some sort of cemetery guardian. You're guardian, you're in the cemetery at 1 am. You're goofing around. You probably really shouldn't be there and I don't know why you were there. I you know you could have been like ghost hunting or whatever. Generally, guardians will take that sort of thing very seriously. These people are resting, they're sleeping and you know they usually want to be left alone. They're sleeping. You get what I'm saying, but like, they want to be left alone. So I don't think you had to run in with a negative entity. Yeah, I believe it was probably spookish. Oh, I'm sure. But again, cemeteries are hollow. It's hollow ground. I also think of like when they said that the creature's head was low, and it makes me think like when an animal is doing the warning. Speaker 2: 37:18 Yeah.

Speaker 1: 37:18 They'll have their heads lowered Right, like you think of, like a dog or a cat, like whenever they're angry, they lower their head, you're right. Yeah, Especially specifically yeah especially specifically dogs, like they'll lower their heads. Speaker 2: 37:27 It dips below their shoulders. Speaker 1: 37:28 yeah, yeah and then you know that's usually when they give their low morning growls, right, that's creepy, it's very creepy. And if anyone tells you that a cemetery is not hallowed ground, they claim to be a medium or something and they tell you that it's not hallowed ground untrue, okay, untrue. So you guys may have just had a weird run in with some sort of guardian. And you know, I mean some of these spirits and things. They do look scary, even if they're not bad. You know, elementals are neutral spirits and they are scary looking. Oh, yes, yes, they are. I think it's because those ones are not human at all. They look terrifying, but they're not necessarily that. So, yeah, I'm sure it was still spooky. Speaker 1: 38:10 Oh, I'm sure I wouldn't want to run into something like that, out in the freaking wilderness or out in the cemetery or anywhere. So do you have any final thoughts? Uh, you know, everything that we talked about today was all of it was. It was a lot, it was a lot, especially with b story. There was a lot to unpack there. I mean that I can't. Uh, I mean, I've lived in the house like that, not with the same kind of experiences, but just just like experiences that are not good and it is a lot. Sometimes it can even be like life-changing. Yeah, you know, depending on how badly it affected you, right? Speaker 1: 38:53 yeah, not to say that the graveyard incident wasn't, I'm sure you're probably never going to go out to the graveyard again in the middle of the night, there's some distance between you and the graveyard, you know, but when it's a place you have to return to every night, yeah, that can be pretty awful yeah I, I mean, I I am also curious about lizzie borden, but maybe we'll talk about her in another episode we will eventually talk about her, yeah so that was chapter two of our listener library. Speaker 1: 39:19 We hope that you guys enjoyed it and if you, did then send us your stories, send us your scary stuff so that we can do another episode, hopefully a little bit sooner than we did this one. Speaker 1: 39:30 If you guys enjoy macabre midnight, then I encourage you to check out our socials. We're on instagram, we are on x, we are on twitter and we want you to join our discord so that we can keep you guys updated. We can keep you guys in the loop on what's going on. Be sure to like, rate, subscribe, comment anything that you can do to help us reach new listeners and, if you feel so inclined, head on over to our patreon. Check it out, see if you'd be interested in some of the benefits you know, and if you guys feel like donating, we would really, really appreciate it. If not, that's okay too. Keep on listening. We will continue to bring you guys new content every week, but that is it for this episode of Macabre at Midnight. We will see you guys next Friday with a new spooky episode, and until then, remember to stay spooky and we will see you guys in your nightmares. Thank you.