התמלול המלא של Mac & Bone Show - David Glenn Interview

basketball tournament, which is growing this year or this, which is doubling in size next year, 90% of people would say, no, we don't want that. And this is the rare example where the consumer essentially, they say they listened, but you can say you listened. You didn't really, because it's the commissioners, it's the executives, it's the coaches that wanted this expansion. And despite what the consumer said, they decided to expand both, despite the fact that 90% of people didn't want it. 00:03:08 Speaker 4: It's still a 12-team playoff this year, however. Some ACC teams probably wish it wasn't. One is Wake Forest for the great year they're having. David, what's your assessment of this Diggs team, and how much of a chance do you give them to be one of the 12 teams this year in the college football playoff? 00:03:26 Speaker 2: I think they have a really good chance. Fun fact, Wake Forest has never finished higher than 14th in the polls, and the polls have been around for like 80-some years, right? So Jake Dickard could be in the process of putting together the best season in Wake history. Now, you've got to go to SMU and win this week, and then you've got to beat Duke in your regular season finale, and that's easier said than done because the Blue Devils are 7-2 as the Deacons are 8-1. So, yeah, they're for real to me. They play very well. Lopez has rediscovered his game at quarterback. They played very good defense. They're top three in the league in that category. And they're really good on special teams. So like, you know, what else is there? Again, it's not easy to go to a nationally ranked SMU team and beat the Mustangs on their home field. I mean, that's a point flip game, but Duke is in Winston Salem. And if you beat both of those opponents, of course, you're going to keep climbing the rankings because teams ahead of you are going to lose. And if the DGS and you end Duke, those would be two of the best victories of the entire season. 00:04:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. They do. 00:04:30 Speaker 1: They've got some games where they can at least get for them more meaningful wins. The committee will probably still have them unranked and tell you it's not a rank win and all that crap. What do you think about this Philip Rivers thing? It feels like it's on the doorstep of being done and being official for NC State. It does seem pretty damn polarizing. Do you like the idea? 00:04:54 Speaker 2: You know, I flashback to law school when I get this question, because I had a professor who said the answer to most questions in life is two words. It depends. And the reason I bring that up is because of the Phillip rivers, you know, beloved former Wolfpack quarterback. There's no doubt. He knows the sport of football. Of course, he's got some coaching experience, but only at the high school level. We all know these crazy uncommon dynamics, It depends because I would want to know Philip Rivers answer to the questions. Who do you have in mind for your general manager? Will that person sign at NC state for this dollar amount that we have in our budget? Who's your offensive coordinator? Somebody who's called plays in actual NFL or college football games, right? With Phillip Rivers being a brilliant guy, but an inexperienced program builder, he's got to learn about recruiting. He's got to learn about image likeness. He needs the right general manager, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, strength and conditioning coach. Coaches who get those hires right maximize their chance for success. And coaches who get those hires wrong are essentially sabotaging themselves. So it is unconventional. There are hardly any examples ever of a guy going straight from high school football coach to power for a football coach and it working out well. NC State's also a program that hasn't won an ACC football title since 1979. So there's a little bit of a why not try something unconventional at a program that just has not been a big brand name in football very often in my 40 years covering it. 00:06:25 Speaker 4: DG, for what they're wanting out of Phillip Rivers and what the strengths would be, name, connections, fundraising, doesn't it make more sense that he would be the GM rather than the head coach? 00:06:37 Speaker 2: That's a fair point. I think they want him on the highest possible pedestal, right? Because whereas money is, of course, central to all of this, you better have a competitive budget, you better have competitive revenue share, you better have competitive name image likeness. There is a branding aspect of this. And just as UNC hoped that the big brand name of Bill Belichick would intrigue some high school kids and some transfers, which it did, and the Heels are better in year two than they were in year one, I think NC State wants to put... Phillip rivers on an even higher pedestal, right? The first person you think about when you think of NC state football, they want it to be the guy that young people and their parents just watch spend, you know, 20 plus years in the NFL as a starting quarterback. And maybe they remember as, you know, one of the greatest NC state football players of all time, that was only 20 some years ago. So now Andrew Locke remembers the GM at Stanford. So there's a logic behind your question for sure. Um, but Stanford decided to plug them into one place. NC state wants Phillip rivers in that faith of the program place. And, you know, at least he does have that minimal coaching experience, even at the high school level to go along with, of course, I mean, he's about got about as high a football IQ from the quarterback position as I have ever seen in college football. 00:07:57 Speaker 1: We're talking with David Glenn joining us here. Check out his NC Sports Network. He's got a YouTube channel. It's great coverage of North Carolina sports, of course. DG, can Duke make it here to Charlotte? They do not have an easy schedule the rest of the way. But damn if they ain't playing good as hell right now. What do you think about their chances? 00:08:20 Speaker 2: They have a chance, you know, kind of like Jim Carrey and dumb and dumber. So you're saying there's a chance, you know, Miami, Miami is like a two touchdown under the favorite this weekend. And I understand why Duke does play the best defense in the ATC. I mean, they're incredibly smart, incredibly well coached. But I remember talking to Manny Diaz two years ago when he was in his first year as Duke's head coach. And there was all this talk about, Oh, Manny Diaz, former Miami head coach, Manny Diaz was born and raised in Miami. Manny Diaz's dad was the. 00:08:52 Speaker 3: Mayor of Miami. 00:08:53 Speaker 2: And there were all these kinds of personal headlines two years ago. And Duke went down there with a pretty decent team and got whacked. It was like 53 to 31. It would not surprise me if that happens again. Maybe the numbers won't be as high, but as you guys know, there's an extra personal angle here beyond everything I just mentioned because Miami Star quarterback Darian Mets left Duke at the last minute before Miami. Miami Star brought a lot of Super Bowl for the hurricanes and last year's transfer portal. So, yeah, you got all sorts of personal and, and sometimes the kind of angst filled angles to the football game. I just think Miami is going to have too much for the blue devils. 00:09:33 Speaker 4: Thank you for your dumb and dumber reference there. He knew, he knew what level he was working with. He didn't go like citizen Kane here. 00:09:42 Speaker 3: He knows how we roll. 00:09:45 Speaker 2: No implication there. No implication. 00:09:47 Speaker 3: Okay, good, good. 00:09:48 Speaker 1: Because we have been called Dumb and Dumber as a tandem. Respectfully, though, of course. And we just argue about who's the dumber one. But anyway, we appreciate it. Everybody check out the NC Sportsnet. 00:10:01 Speaker 4: On YouTube. 00:10:02 Speaker 3: Check out the YouTube channel. David Glenn, thank you, brother. Appreciate it. 00:10:06 Speaker 2: Always fun, guys. Great to be with you.