התמלול המלא של Let The Record Show with Judge Weinberg, Chairman Garcia and Eric Levine | 06-14-26

fact we learned 71 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:25.600 a couple of things that over the last twenty four 72 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:29.519 hours I think were really important to getting to the point. Whether, 73 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.680 let's say, the object is to neutralize the Iranian regime's 74 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:37.399 ability to do harm to the region around it, to 75 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:41.160 our interests international security, and whether that can be secured 76 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:42.680 in a deal, or whether it has to be done 77 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:46.439 just by military capitulation and so on. I think that's 78 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:51.319 just instrumentality, that's not the end goal. So we learned 79 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:53.000 a couple of things, I think over the last twenty 80 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:57.199 four hours about what tools the President is willing to 81 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:00.319 use to try to get to that end goal of 82 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:04.160 of eliminating the Iranians or neutralizing them as a threat. 83 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:07.160 The first one is he showed very importantly going to 84 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:10.759 return to force, and you know, on a broad scale. 85 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.759 Of course, Central Command had been using force, but it 86 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:19.199 was just proportionate responses to attacks on US self defense 87 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:23.800 type of attacks from the Iranians themselves. Last night was 88 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:27.279 the first time that the US that he instructed the 89 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:30.319 US military to go beyond that, and I think that 90 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:34.160 dispelled a mistaken assumption that the Irani regime had that 91 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:37.800 he wasn't willing to return to the use of fort 92 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:39.879 So he's re established some of the credibility as a 93 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:43.759 threat of force Beyond that. A very important thing that 94 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:48.120 we learned was that Project's freedom, the idea of opening 95 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:52.319 up a separate channel through the straight OH hormones in 96 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:56.040 order to get some vessels in and out actually didn't 97 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.759 shut down. It did continue in a clandestine way, and 98 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:03.240 that there's actually been some volume of crude oil and 99 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:06.639 some lergy for example, that's been that's been able to 100 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:10.160 exit the goal, so that that relieves the international economic 101 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:12.680 pressures that the Rans are able to will Those are 102 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:16.959 two important important factors. I think what we haven't accounted 103 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:22.560 for is that I think there's a hidden priority for 104 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:27.240 the Iranians that is mismatched

by the US strategy here 105 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:30.639 at the US negotiating strategy here, our priority is first 106 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:35.920 and foremost the nuclear program, the nuclear material and so on. Second, 107 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:40.279 straight oh horror moves, and then the proxies has Balla 108 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:43.480 in particular. It's almost like it's being treated in our 109 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:47.600 conception as a side issue to be put off to 110 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:50.879 the side, or that could be conceded or restrained in 111 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:53.480 favor of going through these other two priorities, the nuclear 112 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:56.720 program and the straight I think the Iranians see it 113 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:01.160 exactly the opposite way. I think for the IRGC, has 114 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:04.879 Bala is their priority. They're willing to risk going back 115 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:07.199 to war. They're willing to risk economic collapse in the 116 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:10.920 service of Hesbala much more than in the nuclear materials. 117 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:14.759 That's why I think actually our approach so far has 118 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:18.040 risked conceding to them upfront the thing that they want most, 119 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:21.560 which is to preserve Hasbala as a threat and as 120 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:23.920 a model of the of the Islamic Revolution. 121 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:24.040 And so on. 122 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:27.959 Anyway, that's that's that's the main reason why I think 123 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.240 there there are potentially rough times ahead for this deal making. 124 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:35.399 Yeah, so let's focus for a second on I happen 125 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:39.279 to think you're right that the UH, the er GC, 126 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:44.120 and the regime are laser focused on saving Hazbola. It 127 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.680 is a concession that israel Is absolutely cannot make. It 128 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:51.279 is an existential threat to their existence. To allow his 129 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:53.879 boat to continue to exist is to concede in the 130 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:56.240 northern border of Israel. It will be it will become 131 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:59.199 a no man's land. No state can survive in that 132 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:04.720 UH in that state. So if this deal does include 133 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:10.759 a forced cessation of hostility and imposed cessation of hostility 134 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:14.759 of the United States on Israel to prevent it from 135 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:18.360 destroying his Bolah, I really my one of my huge 136 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:21.720 concerns is that's going to put the Israelis and US 137 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:25.240 on a collision course because I don't know how Israel 138 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:28.279 can survive with his if his bull is allowed to 139 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:32.320 continue to exist. That's the That's the first thing. And 140 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:34.360 the second thing is that relates to the Arabs. If 141 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:36.799 I'm the goal, if I'm a Golf Arab state, like 142 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:38.840 could say, this is a wonderful deal, it's great, it's fantastic. 143 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.720 It will not last a single day, assuming the Iranians 144 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:43.799 live up to their obligations, which I think we can 145 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.120 all be confident they won't. But even assuming they do, 146 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:50.080 if I'm a MBS, if I'm Muhammed Ben Solomon saying 147 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:51.799 to myself, well, Trump will be here for two and 148 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:54.720 a half years and then he's gone and the regime 149 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:57.159 will still be here. So we have to start making 150 00:08:57.159 --> 00:08:58.679 accommodations to the regime. 151 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:02.679 Now, how much for the Abraham Acurds. Yeah, exactly, So at. 152 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:04.440 A time when we really need them to be aligning 153 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:07.960 with us, to be stalwarts against the Iranian regime and 154 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:10.879 hoping to get them to join the Abraham Accords. Am 155 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:13.639 I two concerns misplaced? 156 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.720 I don't think they're I don't think they're misplaced. I 157 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.960 think it's there's a little more nuanced to the issue 158 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:25.559 of the Gulf States the Arab States reaction, because I 159 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:30.000 also think one thing that's quietly happened here is that 160 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:33.480 they've come to believe because the Iranian regime lashed out 161 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:37.879 at them when they the Arab States were trying very 162 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.279 hard to stay on the sidelines of this conflict. I 163 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:44.240 think they've concluded in the Arab capitals that they can't 164 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:47.399 live with the Iranian regime in the longer term, so 165 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:50.440 they may have to hedge. They may have to accommodate 166 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:54.080 in the immediate term to navigate the danger that the 167 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:58.120 Iranians posed, But they are looking for ways, I think, 168 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:02.240 to make themselves harder targets like the Israelis have like 169 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:06.240 the Amoradis have started to do UH and and to 170 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:10.200 ALIGNE in a way that is against UH that it 171 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:14.399 opposes Iranian power. So I think that's I think that's 172 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:17.000 what's happened. The Iranians are are going to wind up 173 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:21.240 regretting in the longer term if if that regime

survives. 174 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.639 I'm i'm Habala, I think you are right. This is 175 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:27.559 this is the rock on which the ship will will 176 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:31.559 founder UH if it's not done the right way, Because 177 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:34.600 the Iranians want that agreement, will want that agreement to 178 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:39.879 include a US obligation to restrain Israel from pressuring Hasbala 179 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.440 and Lebanon. And that's not something that UH that Israel 180 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:45.000 is going to be able to live with, and it's 181 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:48.320 not something that I think any US administration UH is 182 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:51.399 able to or has the interest in in guaranteeing. So 183 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:54.919 that's that is the single grade. As I said before, 184 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:58.120 I think that's the single greatest sticking point on trying 185 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:00.600 to get to some sort of arrangement I they can 186 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.000 get I think the president can get to a deal 187 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:10.159 UH to to compel or or cajole the Iranians to 188 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:13.639 relieve their pressure, their military threat to the straight over 189 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:17.600 moves on the further elements of it, on the nuclear program, 190 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:22.080 on on Hasbala. I think it's tough sledding, a long 191 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:22.480 way to go. 192 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:26.000 Yeah, So coming back to hisbola for a second, it's 193 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:29.399 important for listeners to understand this isn't a BB issue. 194 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:32.600 Everybody loves to say this. We just we don't we 195 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:36.279 don't hate Jews, we don't hate really we do hate Zionists, 196 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:38.679 but it's you know, it's unseemly to say it, and 197 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:41.639 we don't hate Israel, we just hate Bibe. It's important 198 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:45.120 for everyone to understand there's not a single elected official 199 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:49.559 in Israel across the political dictums, whether you're liberal or 200 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:53.480 you're most conservative, that will allow his bola to continue 201 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:55.840 to exist to the extent that there's criticism of the 202 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:59.039 way that UH within Israel, of how Nechana who's been 203 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:01.679 prosecuting the war, it's generally because you're not doing it 204 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:05.879 effectively enough. So there's who regardless of who the prime 205 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:08.399 minister is. It going to be elections in Israel October 206 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:12.440 or or or September. Regardless of who wins, that that 207 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:16.000 prime minister is going to want to destroy as Bulah. 208 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.799 And I just don't, simp. I just don't see how 209 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:23.240 any Israeli government can survive more than a few minutes 210 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:25.840 if they concede that his Bulla can stay there where 211 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:29.480 they the Israelis made a terrible mistake by allowing them 212 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.320 to take over the country in the first instance. They're 213 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:35.320 not going to repeat that mistake. Remember, the Iranian strategy 214 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:38.159 is the s ring of fire Hamas and Gaza has 215 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:44.240 Bolah in Lebanon, Syrian has ball also in Syria, which 216 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:46.360 they tried to set up, and then in Iraq, and 217 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:48.480 then you have the elements in the in the in 218 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:51.879 the in Judae and Samaria, and Israel can't allow that 219 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:54.320 to continue. So that's so that's the first point. So 220 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:55.840 I just don't I just don't see how that can 221 00:12:55.879 --> 00:12:58.159 possibly work. And then to your point, do the Arabs 222 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:02.120 have learned a lesson? Maybe the UAE has, but many 223 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:04.559 of the other Arab countries, whether it's Kuwait or Qatar 224 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:08.759 or Saudi Arabia. They have shown themselves to be pathetically weak. 225 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.639 So I really if we're putting our eggs in the 226 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:13.919 basket that the ad those Gulf States are gonna stand 227 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:18.600 up and defend themselves, call me skeptical. I mean, I 228 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:19.960 don't know where your reaction is to that. 229 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:23.720 Well on that point, look, I think actually the Gulf 230 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:27.919 States have been doing quite a lot that's just very quiet. 231 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:30.200 I mean. The first thing is they've been facilitating US 232 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.759 and Israeli operations, I mean US in particular operations. The 233 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:35.840 second thing is that they have from time to time 234 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:38.879 been participating in those operations themselves, either from a support 235 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:41.080 aspect or occasionally direct strike. 236 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:43.519 Beyond the UAE, I know the UAE has, but there's 237 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:45.879 been other okay, yeah, beyond the. 238 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:50.240 Beyond the UAE. And in addition to that, there is 239 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:54.559 there is a brewing potential confrontation between some of the 240 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:58.559 northern Gulf states, so Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Offfrain in particular, 241 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:03.159 and the rocky militant groups that are under the Revolutionary 242 00:14:03.200 -->

00:14:06.600 Guards direction because there have been so many drone and 243 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:12.519 missile strikes against Wait, Bahrain in Saudi Arabia, Potentially the 244 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:16.440 cuts are from Iraq that it's gotten to the point 245 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:22.200 where Saudi Arabian others have quietly warned the US and 246 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.720 Iraqis that if it doesn't stop, that there will be 247 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:31.240 strikes from some of the GCC countries against targets in Iraq. 248 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:34.200 They're not going to tolerate it. And and so that 249 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:36.519 is a live issue. So I do think they've gotten 250 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:41.200 I do again, if we go back to February March, 251 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:43.960 they had hoped to sit on the sidelines, and I 252 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:47.440 think they've had a rude awakening, a wake up call 253 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.799 that they can't no matter it's and and there's no 254 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.360 amount of going to Beijing and trying to construct, trying 255 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:59.080 to enlist China as a as a guaranteur that's going 256 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:03.000 to prevent as the threat from Iran against them and 257 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:04.679 an existential threat to boot. 258 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:07.600 So my last question would be, all right, so we've 259 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:10.240 stopped now, and we hope to sign this deal. The 260 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:14.000 idea that the Iranians will sign any deal is of course, 261 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:17.799 there is always a dubious proposition. But how many times 262 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:20.639 can the US military go through these fits and stops 263 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:24.159 and remain at the ready, at such high alert and 264 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:27.039 still be effective at some point we I have to 265 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:31.559 think that in addition to the cost financial cost, that 266 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.279 it's going to undermine our readiness but. 267 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:38.159 Also underminds out credibility by jumping back and forth and 268 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:41.440 back and forth, and credibility is very important in the 269 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:42.080 Middle East. 270 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:43.799 It all has to do with the reception. Who's the 271 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:44.840 strong horse. 272 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:46.519 Joe, respectially, your honor. 273 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:49.559 I don't think that that's the case. We're about credibility. 274 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:52.080 I think the fact, yeah, I think the fact that 275 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:56.120 what Joel had said about us going kinetic, where will 276 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.519 immediately I think, answer a lot of those questions, but 277 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:00.159 I'll let them speak for himself. And I just want 278 00:16:00.159

--> 00:16:03.159 they jump in there. When you said that about credibility. 279 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:05.399 Well, we're gonna jump to a break because Elias has 280 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:07.279 given me the signal. We're going to have. 281 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:10.159 An opportunity to think about that. 282 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:10.559 That's right. 283 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:13.720 Give a few so Joel be thinking, that's what he 284 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:16.000 does at the Hudson studenty Cincinnati, thinks. 285 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:19.120 Joel's noted, noted scholar, noted. 286 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:22.799 Thinker, scholar, diplomat, And we're going to be back in 287 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:25.399 a few moments with more important, interesting conversation. We're going 288 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:30.240 to be leading off with Jesse Garcia with mister Rayburn, 289 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.000 please stay with us. We'll be right back with more interesting, 290 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:33.919 important conversation. 291 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:51.320 Let the Record Show is on the air. This is 292 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:55.559 Let the Record Show using common sense. Now Here are 293 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:58.200 your hosts, Judge Richard Weinberg. 294 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:00.240 Essayist and commentator. 295 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:04.200 Eric Levi and Chairman Jesse Garcia. 296 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:07.319 Welcome back to Let the Record Show. 297 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:12.480 Chairman Jessica, the publican party not attorney content essays Eric Lavine, 298 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:16.039 and I'm Judge Richard Warmberg with us staying with us 299 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:18.720 for our second segment today's show is Joe Rayburn, a 300 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:23.960 hutch suit, a noted scholar, diplomat, uh right thinker, an 301 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:27.519 expert on the Middle East. So, Joe, if you will 302 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:31.359 try to answer Eric's question and we'll pick up with 303 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:31.799 with Jesse. 304 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:32.839 Yeah. 305 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:35.000 I think so the question was half, how long can 306 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:38.200 the US military keep it up? Is it? Is it 307 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:43.640 arming US readiness? And so on? Well, I think lick, 308 00:17:44.759 --> 00:17:47.480 the US military has to keep it up. The president. 309 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:49.880 If the president is going to get to a resolution 310 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:53.480 of this conflict on on our turn, on terms that 311 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:55.880 are accepted to us, he has to have that credible 312 00:17:55.920 --> 00:18:00.119 threat of the use of force. Uh So he can 313 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.759 pull the pressure off and expect and expect to get 314 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.680 his strategic objectives, because that is where the Iranian regime 315 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:10.160 until last night, I think thought they were headed. They 316 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:12.480 thought he was unwilling to go back to the use 317 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:16.599 of force because of domestic political constraints or economic constraints 318 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:20.359 here in the US. UH. The Iranians can read Twitter, 319 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:23.559 they can read the US media here, and that's what 320 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:26.319 they were hoping for. I think they had gotten into 321 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:29.079 a situation where they believe time was on their side 322 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:31.720 and that President Trump was going to be unwilling to 323 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:34.400 come back and hit them before the midterms and so on. 324 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:36.640 And he dispelled that or he started to dispel it 325 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:40.160 anyway last night. He has to keep the blockade in place. 326 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:43.279 He has to keep the means in place, not just 327 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:46.480 to force them to a deal to successible to him, 328 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:50.079 but then to enforce the implementation of it instead of 329 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:53.519 what they what they normally do. So the US military 330 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:56.720 doesn't really have a choice to but to stay on 331 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:58.000 station for the time being. 332 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:02.559 Choel, thank you, it's great to have you again. And 333 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:05.319 before we get into continuing on this question, I just 334 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:06.880 want to go back to something we were talking about 335 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:09.440 off air about this alliance have you put together on 336 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:12.359 the Blue and Orange with the Oklahoma Thunder, your favorite 337 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:15.400 team in the New York Knicks. Last night when we're 338 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.799 taping this show, you know, og On a Abi made 339 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:22.079 that incredible tip in that gave the mix a three 340 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.240 to one victory. And hopefully when this airs, we will 341 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:29.200 be celebrating and planning a parade for new world champion 342 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:33.240 New York Knicks down the Canyon of Heroes. Thank you 343 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:37.200 for how you negotiated that that alliance between the Thunder 344 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:39.279 and the next you know, it's probably the subject of 345 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:42.559 another show, and we'll have you back after the NBA Finals, 346 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:45.000 But just going back to what we were bringing up 347 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:46.960 to you what it seems to be, and I want 348 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:48.839 to just speak to a couple of issues you brought 349 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:52.039 up with Eric, is that some of the issues that 350 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:57.359 have been clarified

here in the last several days when 351 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:00.400 this airs would be a couple of days, is that 352 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:06.400 Donalds and President Trump has definitely set forth that that 353 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:08.720 the use of full force is never off the table 354 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:13.400 and that he will that the Project Freedom was still 355 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:17.640 in force, so maybe a little bit more clandestine when 356 00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:18.359 maybe less. 357 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:20.839 Public that when we were led to believe. 358 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:24.960 But it also goes to the fact that whatever deal 359 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:29.279 comes forward, and especially as it involves Israel's northern border, 360 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:33.960 that whatever maybe being said publicly between the two leaders, 361 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:37.079 do you see that or do you from your from 362 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:40.720 your experience and what your your sources that Israel no 363 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:43.559 deal is not going to move forward without is Israel's 364 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:49.480 understanding acceptance in this deal, and especially with the fact 365 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:52.039 that what we concluded in your last question with the 366 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:56.079 last last question, is that that the use of American 367 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.240 force and the presence of American force is probably not 368 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:05.279 that Probably it is the only insurance that whatever deal 369 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:07.519 may be signed, and no deal could be signed by 370 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:09.759 the time we get to this, because that's the way 371 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.680 that Iranians operate. And we don't even know which group 372 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:15.920 we're talking to or whatnot. But do we see that 373 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:21.720 there's a lot more going on underneath, diplomatically, militarily, strategically, 374 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:25.599 you know, special forces to keep uh to keep like 375 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:28.039 the straight up home moves open, probably freedom going. And 376 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:31.920 the fact that we are there as a as a 377 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:35.279 forceful military to ensure whatever deal may or may not come. 378 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:38.680 Well, I'll add one thing. I'll add two things to 379 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:41.599 your list Jesse. The first is the president in his 380 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:46.960 in his statement earlier today, uh Is indicated that he's 381 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:50.039 willing to seize carg Island or he's willing he's willing 382 00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:53.039 to seize the Iranian oil production. That's the first time 383 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:56.759 he's been that explicit about that threat. So this is 384 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.799 this is another threat that he's putting on on this. 385 00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:05.440 In addition to that, we also heard from Secretary Scott 386 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:10.480 Bessont this morning reiterating that Operate which you know kind 387 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:13.559 of gets lost in it from the headlines operation economic 388 00:22:13.640 --> 00:22:17.960 Fury is continuing and that the Iranians. The longer the 389 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:20.519 Iranians keep up their confrontation with the United States, the 390 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:25.079 more they're going to lose. They're they're going to deteriorate economically. 391 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:27.559 And that's not a matter just to sort of that. 392 00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:31.799 There's there's no concept behind that that economic sanctions are 393 00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:34.119 going to make life difficult for the Iranian people and 394 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:36.640 then that's going to lead to some chain reaction. That's 395 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:41.880 not the idea. The idea is severely disrupt the Iranian regime, 396 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:46.119 especially the urgency's cash flow that they require to prosecute 397 00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:49.880 the war and two and to pay for their security 398 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:53.400 apparatus that keeps them IMpower. That's so so I think 399 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:56.359 when you add those two things to to sort of 400 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:01.440 the toolbox toolkit, uh that that you outlined, I think 401 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:04.920 that tells you, Yes, there's an awful lot going on. 402 00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:08.480 It's not just about the blockade, It's not just about 403 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:11.319 the negotiation that's happening. There are these other lines of effort, 404 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:13.640 these other lines of pressure that are very important to 405 00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:16.559 operate altogether as a grand strategy. 406 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:19.599 I do want to come back to one of the 407 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:21.480 one of the topics we were discussing a little bit 408 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:27.079 earlier that the Iranian mindset of when Trump leaves, assuming 409 00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:30.079 they make it, yes, do they just say to themselves 410 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.400 that we don't have to outlive the United States? We 411 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:35.599 just is this for the regime, We just have to 412 00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:39.839 outlive Trump because if there's a democratic president, Kamala Harris 413 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:42.960 will never enforce anything, peop booty Judge will never enforce anything, 414 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:47.440 AOC will never enforce anything. So is potential Iranian strategy. 415 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:51.200 Remember John Kerry during the first Trump administration would literally 416 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:54.599 publicly tell the Iranians just wait out Trump. You know 417 00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:58.400 help is on the

way. Is that that has to 418 00:23:58.400 --> 00:23:59.640 be in the back of their minds. 419 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:03.440 Well, I think you're right, and lived through that movie 420 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:08.279 one time before, because in late twenty twenty, we had 421 00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:13.319 the Iranian regime under severe economic pressure, very tight sanctions 422 00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:16.599 pressure that brought them really to the brink of collapse, 423 00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:21.240 to brink of bankruptcy and financial collapse, after which their 424 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:24.400 regime would have collapsed. And they were just holding on 425 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:27.480 for dear life, hoping that there would be a change 426 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:31.599 of administration, and there was, and they gambled that there 427 00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:36.480 would be an immediate policy change with new Biden administration. 428 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:40.480 And they gambled right, and the sanctions pressure was relieved 429 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:44.119 and they were able to build the Then they built 430 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.920 out the access of resistance even more with the sanctions 431 00:24:46.920 --> 00:24:51.359 relief windfall that led I in mind you directly to 432 00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:55.000 October seventh and October eighth. So yes, they will be 433 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.319 looking to try to wait out Forresident trumpt. This is 434 00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:00.759 why I think the role of you know whoever is 435 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:04.480 going to be the the the nominees for twenty twenty eight. 436 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:08.160 It's very important that they they that they tackle this 437 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:11.799 issue and be explicit about it in the campaign and 438 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.759 and and be held to that. And in addition that 439 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.680 Congress has a role here that that Congress. If there's 440 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.680 a consensus in Congress, the majority in Congress just behind uh. 441 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:25.279 You know, this kind of tough piece of strength policy 442 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:28.039 visa visa Runnian regime. And that's what can make it 443 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:31.400 sustainable regardless of who's in the White House, or as 444 00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:32.359 sustainable as possible. 445 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:33.279 Yeah, but I don't see that. 446 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:34.559 No faith in Congress. 447 00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:38.200 Yeah, I have less faith less faith Democrats. 448 00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:42.359 And let's face part part part of their policies now 449 00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.920 is to separate themselves from issery exactly so and and 450 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.559 and they think that j C J C po A 451 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.880 still is the greatest thing since you know, the British 452 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.400 surrendered and at the end of the revolution. So I 453 00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:58.759 don't I don't see how that. I don't see how 454 00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:00.319 that works. I don't see work. 455 00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:05.240 Well, that's that. But that's why, in my view, every 456 00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:08.519 congressional candidate is going to be running in the twenty 457 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:12.720 six twenty eight cycles should be put on the record. 458 00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:16.880 What is your policy if you're going into Congress? Do 459 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:19.839 you support this pressure policy? Do you support the strategic 460 00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.559 objectives that are laid out by Epic Fury, economic fury 461 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:26.480 and this overall strategy or or not, and makes them, 462 00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:29.519 makes them go on the record so that voters, voters 463 00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:32.960 know what they're getting when when it comes time to vote. 464 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:34.799 The war is currently very unpopular. 465 00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:39.400 O sure, you know what part of part of the problem, gentlemen, 466 00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:44.319 is this the stretch of homers were open. These guys 467 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:48.920 led to the crisis in terms of maritime trade. They've 468 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:51.599 learned a great lesson, which is they have real leverage 469 00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:56.559 because of physical geography and their ability to stymy maritime 470 00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:02.039 trade and have international economic results favorable to them. They've 471 00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:05.279 learned that lesson. They will not forget that lesson. They're 472 00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:09.440 a regime that's dedicated to the destruction of Western civilization. 473 00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:12.640 That's in their toolbox, and that's a real problem. That's 474 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.680 my first point. My second point is I have no 475 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:19.599 confidence at all in the ability of the American people 476 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:25.519 to take long term pain. It's not in their toolbox, 477 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:28.000 it's not in their mindset. It's not what the American people. 478 00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:30.359 We've shown during World War Two we can do that, 479 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.200 but that was a different way. The public has to 480 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.839 be prepared public in. 481 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.640 Trunk with a much better job of messaging and narrative 482 00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:38.400 and explanation. 483 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.359 There's no doubt about that. I agree with that. 484 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.400 But I'm saying to you, this is a country that 485 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:49.319 has a extreme left and a Democratic party which is isolationists, 486 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.519 an extreme right in the Republican Party that's

isolationists. You 487 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.640 have people who are bitching and morning and crying about 488 00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:58.920 the price of oil, not understanding that when people tell 489 00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.920 you they want to kill you, you should take them seriously. 490 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.680 And whether or costs a little bit more, it doesn't 491 00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.200 cost a little bit more. The ability of these people 492 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:11.200 to bring destruction to these shores so our major cities, 493 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.599 to our people is enormous, and they have to fight back. 494 00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.400 And I don't have confidence these these people at all 495 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.519 the really sustained pain. I have absolute confidence in the 496 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:24.319 ability of the run and regime to sustain pain, particularly 497 00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:26.680 on other people are doing the dying for them, like 498 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:31.599 Amas and and the hoodies and hezblat Joel your thoughts, Yeah. 499 00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.880 I agree. I mean, we're in a we're in an 500 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.680 uncomfortable We're in an uncomfortable situation where we have some 501 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.799 we have some real threats out there. We have an 502 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.279 alliance in China, Russia or on North Korea and a 503 00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.960 few others, And and I don't think the American people 504 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:54.759 fully appreciate, uh, the danger of this alliance to our 505 00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:58.319 way of life, and and and people are fatigued with 506 00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:00.480 the global war on terror and with what what they 507 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.359 termed forever wars, And they're in that kind of moment 508 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.640 that we can naturally get into because we're protected by 509 00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:10.359 two oceans where there's an inclination to disengage from the 510 00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:13.759 world and look at our own affairs and what I think, 511 00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:17.519 for me, the lesson of the twentieth century. We have 512 00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:19.440 to care about what's happening on the other end of 513 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.599 those oceans, and on who's in charge of the other 514 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.599 end of those oceans and what their intentions are. And 515 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:27.440 so if we forget that lesson right now, then we 516 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.759 can expect to be in a very dangerous time. 517 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.400 Well, we don't teach that lesson anymore. So are young people. 518 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.400 Young people don't even know. The young people don't even 519 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:37.720 know the twentieth century occurred. 520 00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:43.440 The final segment, just my final thoughts.

521 00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:45.839 Let's just show what we were speaking about. Do you 522 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.720 think that when we were speaking that we need to 523 00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.559 address this through Congress and through the present. One of 524 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:54.480 the problems we have, though, is that I know we 525 00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.240 all remember how we came together as a country and 526 00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.599 when nine to eleven happened just about twenty five years ago, 527 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.319 almost twenty five years ago. We don't see that same 528 00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:09.519 type of unity on issues like this because politics has become, 529 00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:13.359 especially on the left, for polarizing and one of if 530 00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.079 not this, then that do you see Do we ever 531 00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.319 see something a situation, whether it's this Iran deal or 532 00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:24.720 any type of conflicts or or form or challenges that 533 00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.160 we'll be facing in the future that does bring this 534 00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:30.720 country together. If not, you know, ending a forever war. 535 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:32.119 This is a war that's been going on for forty 536 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:34.440 seven years with you ran against the United States. 537 00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.880 We didn't start the forever war. Yeah, the Iranians started it. 538 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:38.039 Well. 539 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:39.680 I think the difference is that on nine to eleven, 540 00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:43.599 we're the homeland was directly attacked here in October seventh. 541 00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:47.039 The Iranians and the radical left have very effectively said 542 00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.279 this isn't our war, this is Isra's war, this is 543 00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:52.079 the Jews war. And that's why that's why you see 544 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:54.519 I think a lot of support for it, and it 545 00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:56.640 has to be pushed back. Yeah, the problem the Jews 546 00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.640 are dying Israelis are dying for us in our war 547 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.440 and civilization. I think that's why a different view. 548 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.640 And people have absolutely forgotten the incursion into our hemisphere 549 00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:14.079 of Iranian supported countries like Venezuela, like Cuba and other 550 00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:18.039 communist states. They have infiltrated not only the United States 551 00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.440 of America here, but in our hemisphere as well, and 552 00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:24.160 they will regroup and try to do that again. So 553 00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.160 it's not like you have two big oceans, and I 554 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.480 have doubt with the technology today, the two big oceans 555 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:31.920 are gonna be worth a dam over the years as 556 00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.039 they enhance the ability of ballistic missiles. 557 00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:35.799 To let's give Joel the last word. 558 00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:39.720 Yeah, I think there's still a majority in Congress that 559 00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:43.480 would line up behind the idea that there needs to 560 00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:47.599 be a strong policy against the running regime to curtailis 561 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.680 ambitions to neutralize it as a threat. They may or 562 00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:53.559 may not agree with the specific mode of that, whether 563 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:58.160 that's an epic fury type of military operation, or or 564 00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:01.519 its economic pressure or it's dimplematic pressure, but I do 565 00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:04.559 think they you still can get commerce to line up 566 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:07.960 behind a strategic objective that the Iranian regimes can't be 567 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.480 tolerated they can't have a nuclear weapon and that that 568 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:14.160 needs to be US policy. And I think working with 569 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.799 that kind of majority and walking it in the only 570 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:21.279 way to make President Trump's palsy durable beyond his presidency. 571 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:26.160 But I think the Biden administration belies your statement is unfortunately. 572 00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:31.079 Well, Joel, that's been a wonderful conversation with you, troubling, 573 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:32.039 but wonderful. 574 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:33.160 I want to. 575 00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:36.960 Thank you on behalf of Cheman Garcia, Eric and myself 576 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.039 for being back with us again. As this unfolds, we'll 577 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.480 reach out to you again to join us. Thank you 578 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:46.839 for your analysis and your insight, and we'll be back 579 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:49.400 in a few moments with our final segment of this 580 00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.559 week's Left the Record Show. Please stay with us a 581 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:56.119 more important and interesting conversation. And once again, Joe Rayburn 582 00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.279 the Hudsonstude, thank you for being our guest. 583 00:32:58.359 --> 00:32:59.920 Yeah, you were great. Thank you so much, Joe. 584 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.200 Thanks Joe, My pleasure, my pleasure. 585 00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:19.920 This is Let the Record Show, This is Let the 586 00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:25.279 Record Show. Now here are your hosts, the judge Richard Weinberg. 587 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:28.039 Essayist and commentator Eric Leavie. 588 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:32.920 And Suffolk County Republican Committee chairman jesse Garcia. 589 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.960 Welcome back to let the record show with Chairman Jesse 590 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:42.079 Go see the Republican Party.

Jesse is the chair vice 591 00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.240 chair of the State Republican Party and County Chair Suffolk 592 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:49.799 County Party. With us is Eric Lavino, attorney comment an essayist. 593 00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.559 I'm Judge Richard Weinberg, and our first two segments were 594 00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:58.039 privileged to have Joel Rayburn, a noted scholar diplomat from 595 00:33:58.039 --> 00:33:58.920 the Hudson Institute. 596 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.799 I'm with her something when I associate myself with the 597 00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:03.400 Hudson Institute. No, it's terrific. 598 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.920 No, it's a great it's a great instudent, does really 599 00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.840 great work, and they have great, great minds working there 600 00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.519 like Rayburn. He's just phenomenal. So joonmen, this is this 601 00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.320 is what I want to raise the issue about. And 602 00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:21.039 I think the more we get to the midterms in November, 603 00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:25.000 the more I'm going to be deeper concerned about this. 604 00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:28.599 I respectfully submit that the Democratic Party has really lost 605 00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:34.119 its soul as moral compass to socialists and Islamis. I 606 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:38.440 think this is deeply troubling and frighteningly in terms of 607 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:43.039 the threat internally and by the way supported by foreign money. 608 00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:46.960 As well. Look, you have. 609 00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:52.679 A candidate in Maine just got the Democratic nomination, Graham Platner. 610 00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:56.760 This man is a failure and a basket case on 611 00:34:56.920 --> 00:34:58.559 every realistic objective. 612 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.000 He's a cret cin. 613 00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:05.960 Okay, so tomato, tomato, thank you. 614 00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.199 What he is he really is a clear and present 615 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.119 danger to the survival of this country when you have 616 00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:16.639 people like this who are even considered for more than 617 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.079 three seconds to be a United States Senate supposedly the 618 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.719 great deliberty of body of our country and an important 619 00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:28.440 policy maker and a check and a balance for extremism. 620 00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:32.239 It's supposed to be the common sense body. It's supposed 621 00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:36.719 to be the check against the extremists majority majority tyranny 622 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.800 of a House representatives because of the way the Senate 623 00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:44.960 is structured, because of the ability to slow down or 624 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:50.639 stop dangerous legislation or public policy. This guy knows nothing. 625 00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:55.440 He was

recruited by a couple of radical extremists as 626 00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:59.400 a candidate, same way they recruited AOC. He was not 627 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.920 an organic candidate. H didn't rise from the ranks. He 628 00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:05.360 was recruited by people who had an agenda to elect 629 00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.920 an Islamist and a socialist, and they got their wish. 630 00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:13.039 They drove out the incumbent governor from the race, and 631 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.679 now he has a race against Susan Collins, who in 632 00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:18.519 my mind, is one of the best United States Senators 633 00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:22.639 we have. She's smart, she's calm, she works in a 634 00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.960 bipartisan way. You can count on her to have an 635 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.480 honest analysis of the issues, whether you agree with her 636 00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.199 or not agree with her. She's somebody who stands for 637 00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:33.960 the best of the United States Senate and the best 638 00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.920 of this country. Susan Collins should be re elected to 639 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.840 the United States Center from Maine by acclamation. But now 640 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.760 she has a tough race against his character. Graham, Now 641 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:47.599 what has he done. He's had a tax against the 642 00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:51.239 Jewish community. He's had a tax against his fellow veterans, 643 00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.679 saying they should die because he didn't like the way 644 00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:57.599 they conducted themselves. He's had homophobic attacks. He says women 645 00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:01.320 should in essence, lie back and stop planning when they 646 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:06.840 when they get raped. He supports the worst kind of extremists, 647 00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:12.239 socialist and commist policies. Everybody knows about the SS tattoo 648 00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.119 on his chest, which he says, well, he didn't know 649 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:18.239 what it was. And he's a liar, and anybody believes 650 00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:21.159 that he didn't know what that was since he considered 651 00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:23.920 himself a history buff is either a liar or a fool. 652 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:28.119 They're accepting the worst, most reprehensible character in the world 653 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.760 as a candidate the United States Senate from one of 654 00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.559 the two great parties in America. This is just awful, 655 00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:40.360 just awful. Now one more illustration, then I'll go to 656 00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:45.599 to Rigan to jest. In the state of Michigan, you 657 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:49.599 have a character named Lsaeed. He's an Islamist. He's a 658 00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:53.960 socialist slash communist. He believes and hang around people who 659 00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.519 supported nine to eleven as a legitimate attack against his country, 660 00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:03.039 because the United States country. He's a supporter of Islamis terrorists. 661 00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:05.800 He is the worst of the worst of the worst, 662 00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:09.199 and yet in a three way race for the nomination 663 00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.039 of the Democratic Party in Michigan it's an August primary. 664 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:17.280 He has the support of a large amount of population. 665 00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:21.679 Has he got the UAW has UAW, which is the 666 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.480 pocket of the extremists. So what do you have? You 667 00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.679 have a dangerous guy who could very well win the nomination. 668 00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.400 Because it's so called, too moderates in the Democratic Party 669 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:34.119 will split that vote, and you have a hardcore group 670 00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.559 of Islamis and leftists who could get him across the 671 00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:40.159 finish line. Who's he running against. He's gonna be running 672 00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.480 against Mike Rogers, former Congressman, former chairman of the House 673 00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:44.599 Intelligence Committee. 674 00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:46.719 Terrific guy, terrific former. 675 00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:52.320 FBI agent, a wonderful guy, a common sense guy, a 676 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:56.599 self made man. He is exactly the people we want 677 00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:00.199 to have in the United States Senate. His experts, he's 678 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:06.199 a national security foreign policy intelligence is absolutely essential the 679 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:09.639 protection defense of this country. And these are the characters 680 00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:13.920 that they elect. And then one more illustration, and then 681 00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:18.039 I'll turn over the La mayor's race. Now you had 682 00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:21.320 this fellow pride and you can say whatever you want 683 00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:23.400 about him. You know he was an actress, So what's 684 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.199 what's the big deal? He's running against a feld mayor pass, 685 00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:33.840 a leftist and a fool, and against a radical socialist 686 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:39.239 who were a councilwoman. So he loses all of a 687 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.440 sudden when they come up with all these absentee ballots, 688 00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:45.280 which is a crime against democracy and freedom because you 689 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:48.719 can't allow these absentee ballots to come in and they 690 00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:51.639 don't know where they're coming from and they do mail outs, 691 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:53.800 by the way, in the state of California, that's this 692 00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.760 totally propped up and created by the Democratic

legislation and 693 00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:02.039 lose from the governor where they do unsolicit mailing of 694 00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.840 absentee ballots to homes. We don't know whether the people 695 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:10.360 are alive, dead, moved, And then you allow them to 696 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:13.559 go around and harvest votes and you have drop boxes. 697 00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:17.760 It's a system leaves all kinds of opportunities for corruption, 698 00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:21.880 and this is very troubling. The good news is that 699 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:26.440 Steve Hilton is in the runoff against Pacara for governor, 700 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:32.039 but the loss of Pratt is very troubling about the 701 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.599 future of LA and the future of Las. 702 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:36.360 Problems. 703 00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.280 They have to worry about the state of California, and 704 00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:40.480 you have to worry about America. 705 00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:40.880 Eric. 706 00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:45.079 Yeah, So if you make all these points to Democrats 707 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:47.920 or people that support Democrats, they say, you can't tar 708 00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:50.920 the entire party with the acts and statements of a 709 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:55.039 few people. But here's the problem the Democratic Party. The 710 00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:58.679 Democratic Party is rallying around them. Look who's coming out 711 00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.760 in support of Grand Platner Bernie Sanders. Of course, who 712 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:05.880 owns the party. He is the intellectual, ideological grand father 713 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:09.000 of the DSA and now the Democratic Party, of course 714 00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:13.199 Elizabeth Warren, but presidential candidates Roy Kanna, and we all 715 00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:15.119 know Roy Kanna is going to run for president. He 716 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:20.719 shows up in Maine standing with Graham Plattner extolling the 717 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:25.519 virtues of this Nazi communist woman hater who brags about 718 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:29.440 pleasuring himself imported partties. So it's not the individuals. These 719 00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:33.440 guys are the party. The party is rallying around them. 720 00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:39.000 You know, look at Zorammdani and does anybody come out, 721 00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:43.679 any any Democrat of any heft seniority come out and 722 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.920 speak out against them? Where the hell's Chuck Schumer? As 723 00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:49.159 I always say, Chuck Soul of course is in the 724 00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:51.719 witness protection program. 725 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:52.719 HACKEM. 726 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:58.239 Jefferies endorsed the man who speaker the doors, Kathy Hochel 727 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:02.119 indorsed store in Mom Donnie. Now Zormandani is endorsing this 728 00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:08.360 woman Chevalier who's running against what's splatt Who's only crime 729 00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:11.920 he's radical Left, but he's committed the crime of supporting 730 00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:15.519 Israel and taking APEC money. So Mam Donnie is endorsed 731 00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:18.039 and supporting a woman who not only doesn't think that 732 00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:20.280 Israel has a right to exist. She's on the record 733 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.960 of saying Israel does not exist and that she thinks 734 00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:28.119 that America is quote fin disgusting. These are the candidates 735 00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.480 that they're supporting. Hubbala said, I have not heard a 736 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:35.480 single Democrat come out and condemn Sayid for publicly stating 737 00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:39.480 that he mourns the death of Hassan Nosrala, the head 738 00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:43.800 of his bola, that he supports his bola's attacks on Israel. 739 00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:47.480 Have you heard a single Democrat come out and complain 740 00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:50.719 or condemn him. Of course not, No, you haven't. Because 741 00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:56.320 the DSSA is such a critically large portion of the 742 00:42:56.360 --> 00:43:00.480 Democratic Party's vote, they cannot. They have convinced them themselves 743 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:03.000 that they must run to the left as far as 744 00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:08.039 they can to embrace the dssa's votes, rather than trying 745 00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:11.639 to track to the center and appeal to moderates and 746 00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:15.639 traditional Democrats. They are running to the extreme left. And 747 00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:18.679 that is why the DSA owns the party. So this 748 00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:22.039 notion that you know Graham Platner is a one off, 749 00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:26.320 or Absid is a one off, or Zorammdani is a 750 00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.920 one off. You know before you know it, every every 751 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:33.519 democratically elected official is a one off. And that's really 752 00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:36.880 the danger here. The Democratic Party is so far to 753 00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:41.480 the left it has no moral compass any any party 754 00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:45.320 that can support or fail to condemn someone with an 755 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:51.960 SS tattoo, a rape apologist who himself has assaulted women 756 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.960 and is an avowed communist if you can't speak out, 757 00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:01.039 and also of course he he's engaged in a lot 758 00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:04.639 of these anti Semitic tropes that Susan Collins is owned 759 00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:06.559 by APAK, is owned by BB. 760 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:09.519 She's owned by the Jews. 761 00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:13.320 Yeah, exactly, He's owned by the Jews. So I'm sorry. 762 00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.360 The

Democratic Party has no moral compass than they have 763 00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:19.840 no basis. You know, it's interesting they accused Trump of 764 00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.039 being a Nazi, but their candidates the guy with the 765 00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:22.840 Nazi tattoo. 766 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:24.719 That's ridiculous. 767 00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:28.320 Jesse, I agree with both you, gentlemen. I mean that, 768 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.199 as I said when we were we were speaking, and 769 00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:33.360 I may have interrupted, and I apologize, but that is 770 00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:36.559 a democratic party. That's a democratic party we have here. 771 00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:42.159 I remember ten years ago, I'm sorry, four years ago, 772 00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.519 I'm sorry, six years ago, I apologized and dunk listen. 773 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:49.000 I was never going to guy Jesse's the. 774 00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:54.079 Democratic Party was concerned about Bernie Sanders becoming your nominee 775 00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:57.320 for president against Donald Trump in twenty twenty two. In 776 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.320 twenty twenty, I remember that the Democratic Party was turned 777 00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:04.440 about Bernie Sanders and his policies in such the DFA's 778 00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:08.159 policies being the nominee in twenty sixteen, and in both elections, 779 00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:11.800 they rid the elections in the favor of their candidates, 780 00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.960 whether it be Clinton or whether it be Joe Biden. 781 00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:21.719 Now it appears that those same elements are the ones 782 00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:24.360 that are running this party. It is the sense we 783 00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:26.880 all agree with that. But here's law say to you, 784 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.519 in looking at the races. I know Mike Rodgers, my 785 00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:33.159 Congressman Fields SCOOCHI served and was elected in the first 786 00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:35.039 one hundred and seven Congress of Mike Rodgers is an 787 00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.960 outstanding public servants, are outstanding, an entrepreneur, and a great 788 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.599 in law enforcement. I believe he's going to be successful. 789 00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:45.559 And Susan Collins, I believe is actually facing a far 790 00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.079 more a far better candidate against her than the governor 791 00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.119 than the governor of Maine that was pushed out of 792 00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:57.239 this race. So I believe that the same concerns that 793 00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:04.280 Democrats had in twenty sixteen in twenty twenty are going 794 00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:07.320 to come home to roost while they're Democrats today, like 795 00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:11.079 you know, the Schumer and all the leaders around there 796 00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:13.360 that are rallying around these people, because what they're dealing 797 00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:16.840 with is they are racing to the bottom. Democrats are 798 00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:18.840 racing right now to the bottom, and they're racing to 799 00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:23.280 the bottom of primaries. They want to maintain their own 800 00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:27.039 power and wage to stay off any primaries against them, 801 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:31.119 or be successful primaries on all sets. The issue here, though, 802 00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:35.360 is that when the electric gets a Susan Collins and 803 00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:40.920 a Platiner or whatever one of these Democrats on the 804 00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:43.559 far left in Michigan with Mike Rogers, that's going to 805 00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.159 be a different dynamic. There will money come flooring in, 806 00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:50.119 will George Sorossh's of the Democrat Party come flowing it? Absolutely, 807 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:56.039 But still the appetite for this type of governance and 808 00:46:56.079 --> 00:47:00.440 these type of policies is not what exists in especially 809 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.960 with independent voters that have for the last ten, fifteen 810 00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:08.480 and sixteen years have been leaning more Republican because we 811 00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:11.719 are the Party of common Sense and we talk about 812 00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:16.159 the hijacking of the Democratic Party by a DSA and 813 00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.199 now they're attack on America. But it's on every set. 814 00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:23.000 And you have whatever kind of Democrat you want to 815 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:26.880 classify him, Schumer, Jeffreys or a moderate. They want to however, 816 00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:29.519 they want to classify themselves that they're not dsas. But 817 00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:32.079 they're all part of the same group. Number one, they 818 00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:36.119 have Trump derangement syndrome. Number two, they're policies all are 819 00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.880 progressive account of policies that contribute to inflation. They ultimately 820 00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.840 harm the American working class and stifled growth. They are 821 00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.280 against border security to keep art safe. They want to 822 00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:49.239 keep illegal immigrants here that have criminal records or mental 823 00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:53.400 or are mentally challenged and have mental problems and diseases 824 00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:56.039 here in America so that they can prey on our citizens. 825 00:47:56.480 --> 00:48:00.440 They certainly want to leave. And we're not learning lesson 826 00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:03.480 by some of these people, the Democrats, because in Europe 827 00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:07.800 we've seen a shift in the cultural stances of the 828 00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.079 European culture is almost gone. It's almost gone because

of 829 00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:15.719 unchecked immigration in the EU and such, and certainly it's 830 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.119 you know, it's ological differences. So when I say to you, 831 00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:23.440 is that while these individuals pose a danger and they do, 832 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:30.159 they pose, they pose an immediate danger to the United States, 833 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:32.760 to our way of life, how we way of governance. 834 00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:35.880 I do believe and have trust in the American people 835 00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:38.239 and the American voters, the same voters that we're going 836 00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:41.360 to reject the Bernie Centers in twenty sixteen, in twenty 837 00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:45.559 twenty and force the Democrats to to you know, Jerry 838 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:48.800 rig their election system, their primary system. Are the same 839 00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:51.199 electorate that's going to say when they can see a 840 00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:57.519 Mike Rodgers and as Suton Collins against these these ultra 841 00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.119 left DSA Democrats, I think we're going to be successful. 842 00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:05.639 Well, I hope you're right. I hope you're right. 843 00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.960 Yes, No, no, I know, I mean I really hope 844 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:12.920 because we're really when you talk about these issues, you're 845 00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:17.960 not talking about competing baseball teams or basketball teams. You're 846 00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:23.119 talking about the future of this country. And the sad 847 00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:28.679 thing is that, you know is Obama famously said elections 848 00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:31.920 have consequences when they beat Trump. 849 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.280 Unless you're a Democrat, then you packed the Supreme courts, right, right, So. 850 00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:39.920 That's that's the consequences. The consequences as we go on 851 00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:45.719 exactly or get rid of the checks and balances the 852 00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.159 United States Senate on the filibuster so they can push 853 00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:52.199 through every radical piece of legislation they want. 854 00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:54.119 Well, there are a lot of voices in the Republican 855 00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:55.639 Party now they're advocating for that. 856 00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:57.320 I know, but I'm but I'm saying to you, but 857 00:49:57.360 --> 00:49:59.920 the Democrats wanted because you know what the Democrats will. 858 00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:02.960 Do with it's coming. The problem is, I mean, we 859 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:06.679 have there's political realities, and you gotta be pragmatic. It 860 00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:10.199 is coming. The elimination of the filibuster is coming. The 861 00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.440 moment that the Gabble is controlled by the Democrats in 862 00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:16.320 the u u. S. Senate, the philipbuster is gone. 863 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:17.920 Well, they have to they have to control. They have 864 00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:19.800 to control the White House, the Senate and the House. 865 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:20.840 Otherwise it's a waste. 866 00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:21.800 Yeah. 867 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:23.760 Well, if you get rid of the philibuster and the 868 00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:26.000 Senate and you don't control the House to the White House, 869 00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:29.199 it's meaningless through anyway. 870 00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.280 Well, this is true, none of that. 871 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:35.599 But but I think, uh, I think Jesse's concern is 872 00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:36.679 a is a real one. 873 00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:39.079 No, it is if the Democrats take over the White House, 874 00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:41.519 the Senate, in the House, yes, that's a real concern. 875 00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:42.960 And you can take the trust. 876 00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:46.159 Even if they don't, I mean the philipbuster with right. 877 00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:50.000 Now, say in a split chamber that one party controls 878 00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:53.440 just one of the two uh houses of Congress, still 879 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.440 there is in the Senate a good deal that that 880 00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:01.039 is still subject to the ultra fringe left of that 881 00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:04.400 party or the ultra friends right of that party because 882 00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:06.159 of the filibuster means you can't get the sixty. 883 00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:09.360 Yeah, but either the House the speaker won't bring it 884 00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:11.480 to the floor so it won't go anywhere, or if 885 00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:13.880 it gets out of Congress, the president of the other 886 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:14.760 party will veto it. 887 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.039 Look, I have to tell you so on I find 888 00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:23.880 it very troubling, you know, being a quasi student of 889 00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:28.199 history and political science, having read the feralist papers, having 890 00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:34.199 studied the Constitution, I'm very troubled by the impulses of 891 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:38.639 the mob to do havoc and to trample the rights 892 00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.239 of the fellow citizens. I think you have to worry 893 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.920 about that. That's what Madison was worried about. That's what 894 00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:48.559 the checks and balances, That's what the separation of powers 895 00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:51.920 was about. That's what federalism is about. That's why three 896 00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:58.719 coequal branches is about. It's all about checking majority tyranny. 897 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.599 That's the one of the fireless papers in Constitution United 898 00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:05.559 States that holds true two hundred and fifty years after 899 00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:09.400 the Decoration of Independence. Majority tyranny is a great threat 900 00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:14.559 to this country internally, gentleman, another interesting show. Elias has 901 00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.880 given us the hook, something that if he is. 902 00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:20.519 Elias is all knowing and all powerful. 903 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:22.960 And he's probably given the hook to the people in 904 00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:26.119 Philadelphia the Constitutional Convention as well, way back then. 905 00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.360 So I want to thank you both. 906 00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:31.199 He's our wizard of us. 907 00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:34.840 He certainly is. So this has been another great show. 908 00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.760 Thank you for listening, and as always, God bless you, 909 00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.480 God bless your families, and God bless America. To look 910 00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:43.039 forward to being with you again next week on Let 911 00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:43.599 the Record Show. 912 00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:44.239 Thank you