התמלול המלא של Mega Edition: Hillary Clinton And Her Epstein Related Talk With Congress (Part 12-14) (11/8/26)

listed. If 34 00:01:52.510 --> 00:01:55.439 he was not listed. I was just seeking that clarification. 35 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.379 Casey Wasserman, do you know Casey Wasserman? Clinton, I do. Question, okay. 36 00:02:00.780 --> 00:02:02.159 And do you know he was a former trustee of 37 00:02:02.180 --> 00:02:05.859 the Clinton Foundation? Answer, I don't know. He wasn't during 38 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:09.360 the time I was involved. Question, okay. Well, it's alleged 39 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:11.759 that he was a former trustee of the Clinton Foundation 40 00:02:12.219 --> 00:02:14.840 and that he also had to resign in disgrace from 41 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:18.300 his company. And obviously, there's an association there. Do you 42 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:22.099 know Larry Summers? Answer, I do know Larry Summers. Question, okay. 43 00:02:22.530 --> 00:02:26.590 And he was obviously former Treasury Secretary, campaign advisor. Apparently, 44 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:30.080 he didn't give you good advice. But y'all obviously have 45 00:02:30.099 --> 00:02:33.340 a long-standing relationship. He was forced to resign in disgrace 46 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:38.960 because of his association with Jeffrey Epstein. Answer, yeah, but 47 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:41.659 I never talked to these people about. She gets cut 48 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:45.520 off by Representative Timmons. I understand. But you understand you 49 00:02:45.580 --> 00:02:48.150 are Secretary of State. You are the First Lady. And 50 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:50.349 you are a United States Senator. And you have all 51 00:02:50.370 --> 00:02:53.870 this power and influence. and all these connections. And when 52 00:02:53.889 --> 00:02:56.129 there is just this enormous amount of smoke that I'm 53 00:02:56.169 --> 00:02:58.610 going to go over, it's appropriate for us to then 54 00:02:58.729 --> 00:03:01.090 ask you questions, because we're trying to get to the 55 00:03:01.129 --> 00:03:03.810 bottom of this, to make sure it doesn't happen again, 56 00:03:04.229 --> 00:03:08.650 and to hold people accountable. It might not be you. Answer, 57 00:03:08.770 --> 00:03:11.069 but all of the people you just read, it seems 58 00:03:11.110 --> 00:03:13.770 to me, should have been ahead of me being subpoenaed, 59 00:03:14.110 --> 00:03:16.129 then me, but that's okay, I'm here, and I want 60 00:03:16.150 --> 00:03:20.009 to keep plowing forward. Question, do you know George Mitchell? Answer, 61 00:03:20.030 --> 00:03:24.599 I of course knew George Mitchell. Question, okay, obviously, he 62 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:27.680 also had to resign in disgrace. That was the purpose 63 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:30.219 of the people that we're trying to get your association with. 64 00:03:30.699 --> 00:03:33.240 So obviously, I'm not going to go over this too 65 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:36.060 much in length, but I've been in Congress for seven years, 66 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:38.340 and I've only been in the White House, I don't know, 67 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:41.759 a dozen times. Jeffrey Epstein doesn't even live in D.C., 68 00:03:42.139 --> 00:03:43.900 and he went to the White House 17 times in 69 00:03:44.060 --> 00:03:47.030 two years. So that causes us to wonder, what's going 70 00:03:47.099 --> 00:03:51.050 on there? Obviously, President Clinton flew on the Lolita Express 71 00:03:51.550 --> 00:03:54.879 over two dozen times. That gives us more questions. He's 72 00:03:54.900 --> 00:03:57.620 your husband, so we're just curious about all these things. 73 00:03:58.219 --> 00:04:00.620 And that's the purpose of this. You say the fact 74 00:04:00.650 --> 00:04:04.330 that Jeffrey Epstein donated $ 20, 000 to the Joint Fundraising Committee, 75 00:04:04.689 --> 00:04:07.710 you were not allowed to solicit that. But it's record 76 00:04:07.750 --> 00:04:10.310 of who gave money. And so you would if somebody 77 00:04:10.349 --> 00:04:14.009 gave $ 20, 000 to my JFC. I would know eventually, and 78 00:04:14.050 --> 00:04:16.810 I'd say thank you. You never thanked him for his contribution? 79 00:04:17.509 --> 00:04:19.829 Answer not that I'm aware of. First time I knew 80 00:04:19.889 --> 00:04:24.060 about it was when I was preparing for this testimony. Question, 81 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:26.839 obviously all the members of Congress have to deal with fundraising. 82 00:04:27.139 --> 00:04:30.100 It's probably the worst part of the job. But generally speaking, 83 00:04:30.379 --> 00:04:32.660 when people give you a large amount of money, you 84 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:36.860 say thank you. So think again. Clinton, he didn't give 85 00:04:36.899 --> 00:04:40.300 it to me. They gave it to the joint committee. Timmons, 86 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.480 the JFC has disclosure requirements and you'd be able to 87 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:46.500 tell it was for your behalf to get you elected. 88 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.850 Clinton's lawyer jumps in. Please let the witness finish. Clinton, 89 00:04:49.889 --> 00:04:53.300 it's okay. Lawyer, you're cutting her off. Clinton, I've told 90 00:04:53.339 --> 00:04:56.720 you all I know, which is that I did not know. Question, 91 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:59.759 there's dozens of pieces of information that create a pattern. 92 00:05:00.189 --> 00:05:02.689 And you're here because that pattern causes us to have 93 00:05:02.750 --> 00:05:06.709 questions to understand. Clinton, well, what are your questions? Did 94 00:05:06.730 --> 00:05:08.850 I know anything about the crimes? I've told you, no, 95 00:05:09.029 --> 00:05:11.610 I did not. Did I know anything about her crimes? No, 96 00:05:11.709 --> 00:05:14.430 I did not. Was I in a position of responsibility 97 00:05:14.670 --> 00:05:18.810 to investigate those crimes? No, I was not. Question, again, 98 00:05:18.850 --> 00:05:22.209 there's a pattern. You gave the best line of the deposition, patterns. 99 00:05:22.649 --> 00:05:26.019 Lawyers look at patterns to try to

assess veracity and 100 00:05:26.100 --> 00:05:30.339 classify information to understand truth. And so we're here trying 101 00:05:30.379 --> 00:05:33.500 to seek truth. And we appreciate you being here. But 102 00:05:33.579 --> 00:05:35.860 it's appropriate for us to ask you questions about all 103 00:05:35.899 --> 00:05:40.709 these things. Jeffrey Epstein, use the Clinton. She cuts them off. 104 00:05:41.129 --> 00:05:43.189 And you have been all day. And I'll try to 105 00:05:43.209 --> 00:05:47.350 the best of my ability to keep answering them. Question, 106 00:05:47.410 --> 00:05:49.670 trust me. Your husband's going to have a much worse 107 00:05:49.689 --> 00:05:53.819 day tomorrow. The Clinton Global Initiative... was used in the plea. 108 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:58.259 Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers used Epstein's role in facilitating the Clinton 109 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:01.629 Global Initiative to justify his plea deal. That was entered 110 00:06:01.689 --> 00:06:05.449 into evidence earlier. Obviously, Ghislaine Maxwell has alleged that this 111 00:06:05.509 --> 00:06:08.569 is part of one of her successes to facilitate setting 112 00:06:08.610 --> 00:06:11.189 it up. And there's been reports that a million dollars 113 00:06:11.250 --> 00:06:14.560 was wired for the launch party. So there's just all 114 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.680 this data, all these different pieces of information that come 115 00:06:17.699 --> 00:06:20.699 together that cause us to be here. And so I mean, 116 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:23.600 we've obviously discussed the fact that Ghislaine Maxwell was at 117 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:26.899 your daughter's wedding, which again is not indicative of anything. 118 00:06:27.379 --> 00:06:29.000 But when you take all of this and you put 119 00:06:29.019 --> 00:06:32.060 it together and you look at it holistically, it causes 120 00:06:32.139 --> 00:06:34.759 us to have these questions. So given all of that 121 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:37.339 information that I just went over and what we've gone 122 00:06:37.379 --> 00:06:40.240 over today, do you understand why you're here? And do 123 00:06:40.259 --> 00:06:42.220 you think it's appropriate for us to ask questions of 124 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:45.759 someone that's in such a position of authority and has 125 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.560 all of this smoke? I mean, maybe there's no fire 126 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:50.310 with you, But in order for us to get to 127 00:06:50.350 --> 00:06:53.649 the bottom of it, the American people want transparency and accountability. 128 00:06:54.069 --> 00:06:56.560 So I mean, do you understand why we are doing this? 129 00:06:56.980 --> 00:07:01.699 Or do you think it's just a waste of time? Answer, 130 00:07:01.779 --> 00:07:04.019 you'll have to determine whether this is or isn't a 131 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:06.879 waste of time. But you make all these assumptions. I 132 00:07:06.899 --> 00:07:09.959 don't believe anything Jeffrey Epstein says. So whatever he said, 133 00:07:09.980 --> 00:07:13.379 I would discount completely. I don't believe very much of 134 00:07:13.420 --> 00:07:16.360 what Ghislaine Maxwell said in the very first exhibit you 135 00:07:16.379 --> 00:07:19.540 gave me was what she told Todd Blanche, so it's 136 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:21.939 your job to figure out what is and isn't true, 137 00:07:22.300 --> 00:07:26.699 but more importantly, what's relevant to your investigation. Question what's 138 00:07:26.790 --> 00:07:29.430 relevant to our investigation is the people at the highest 139 00:07:29.470 --> 00:07:33.850 levels of government were involved in a sex trafficking ring. Answer, 140 00:07:34.269 --> 00:07:36.189 I was not involved at all, and I resent you 141 00:07:36.250 --> 00:07:39.360 even connecting those two points. Question. You're here to help 142 00:07:39.420 --> 00:07:41.600 us get to the bottom of it. Answer. I'm doing 143 00:07:41.620 --> 00:07:44.300 my very best. Question. Well, you've tried to avoid it 144 00:07:44.339 --> 00:07:47.939 for six months. Lawyer jumps in. Let her answer fully 145 00:07:48.019 --> 00:07:51.620 the question, and then you can ask. Answer. I've been 146 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:54.009 doing all I can. How can I answer questions about 147 00:07:54.029 --> 00:07:56.310 a person that I don't believe I've ever even met? 148 00:07:56.810 --> 00:07:58.889 Although maybe I was in the same room once, who 149 00:07:58.930 --> 00:08:01.189 gave money to a joint funding committee that I had 150 00:08:01.230 --> 00:08:03.670 no knowledge of. I'm doing my best. I can answer 151 00:08:03.709 --> 00:08:09.180 your questions. Question. I appreciate that. Again, pattern is what 152 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.040 we're following. And I think we're going to have a 153 00:08:11.069 --> 00:08:15.009 lot more questions for the president tomorrow. Thank you. Next 154 00:08:15.050 --> 00:08:20.769 speaker is Mr. McGuire. Representative McGuire from Virginia. Madam Secretary, 155 00:08:20.850 --> 00:08:23.350 thank you for being here today. I thank the American people. 156 00:08:23.629 --> 00:08:27.420 I represent Virginia's 5th District, the Commonwealth of Virginia. In 157 00:08:27.449 --> 00:08:31.519 the whole United States, we all want transparent accountability. And 158 00:08:31.579 --> 00:08:33.879 I would imagine you want the same thing. Is that right? 159 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:38.250 Human trafficking, rape, torture... These things are unspeakable evil. Would 160 00:08:38.269 --> 00:08:42.419 you agree with that? Clinton, I would. Answer. Or question. 161 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:44.600 I was a Navy SEAL veteran during the time your 162 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:46.960 husband was in the presidency and we did a lot 163 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:49.419 of missions to go against the cartels and go after 164 00:08:49.460 --> 00:08:52.590 human traffickers and people who did all these unspeakable things. 165 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:57.129

Question for you. Have you read the released Epstein files? Answer. 166 00:08:57.210 --> 00:09:00.830 I've read excerpts as they've come to my attention. Question. 167 00:09:00.850 --> 00:09:03.110 Would you agree that there are unspeakable acts of violence 168 00:09:03.149 --> 00:09:06.370 against women, minors, and other people in there? Answer, I'm 169 00:09:06.409 --> 00:09:10.330 told so. Question, and just curious, what your knowledge is. 170 00:09:10.750 --> 00:09:13.509 How many Epstein filed documents were released during the four 171 00:09:13.549 --> 00:09:17.250 years of the Biden administration? Answer, I don't have information 172 00:09:17.269 --> 00:09:20.320 about that. Question, so what I'm being told is zero. 173 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.559 How many files do you think have been released, Epstein files, 174 00:09:24.820 --> 00:09:29.419 President Trump in his second term? Clinton, many I've been told. Question, 175 00:09:29.860 --> 00:09:32.299 I've been told over 3 million. And again, we both agree, 176 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:36.340 we want transparency and accountability. I don't think it's a Democrat, Republican, 177 00:09:36.620 --> 00:09:39.480 or independent thing. I think it's just an American thing. 178 00:09:39.899 --> 00:09:42.519 We want accountability, and we need to have it. So 179 00:09:42.570 --> 00:09:44.730 would you agree that no one's above the law? I 180 00:09:44.769 --> 00:09:48.870 certainly would, Clinton responds. Question? Yeah, so since taking office, 181 00:09:49.210 --> 00:09:51.870 President Trump has done a lot to fight human trafficking. 182 00:09:52.490 --> 00:09:56.029 His administration secured the border in just a matter of weeks, 183 00:09:56.309 --> 00:09:59.330 and human trafficking numbers, and the rape, and all these 184 00:09:59.529 --> 00:10:02.200 unspeakable acts still exist in the world and even in 185 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:05.350 our country, but they've gone down significantly. Now, this is 186 00:10:05.379 --> 00:10:08.669 the same bullshit that the other side's doing. You don't 187 00:10:08.690 --> 00:10:10.950 need to get up here and pump Trump's tires. Ask 188 00:10:10.970 --> 00:10:15.509 some questions. What are we doing here? And of course, 189 00:10:15.649 --> 00:10:18.490 we've been going after the cartels and human traffickers extremely 190 00:10:18.529 --> 00:10:21.409 aggressively ever since he took office in his second term. 191 00:10:21.970 --> 00:10:25.549 Congress and President Trump, we signed into law on January 2nd, 192 00:10:25.950 --> 00:10:28.889 the Trafficking Survivors Relief Act. Have you heard about that? 193 00:10:29.610 --> 00:10:32.250 So we're definitely making progress. So I heard you earlier 194 00:10:32.370 --> 00:10:35.269 say that we weren't doing anything. Question, I was talking 195 00:10:35.309 --> 00:10:39.429 about the State Department. Or answer, excuse me. Question, well, 196 00:10:39.470 --> 00:10:42.070 we work together, but I'm with you. Also, it's just 197 00:10:42.110 --> 00:10:44.149 twice I heard you say that you didn't know about 198 00:10:44.190 --> 00:10:47.960 the donation from Maxwell, and according to FEC and our research, 199 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:50.379 you can, as a candidate, even back in the 90s, 200 00:10:50.740 --> 00:10:54.139 coordinate with JFC joint funding. Lawyer jumps in, excuse me, 201 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:56.960 could you correct your statement? You said she didn't know 202 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:02.360 about Maxwell. McGuire, no, no, I'm just saying she said 203 00:11:02.700 --> 00:11:07.299 that twice he couldn't. Clinton jumps in, you're talking about Epstein. McGuire, 204 00:11:07.340 --> 00:11:12.470 that's right, twice she said she couldn't communicate with JFC. Answer, well, 205 00:11:12.610 --> 00:11:16.330 that's what I was told. Question, and according to FEC, 206 00:11:16.730 --> 00:11:18.909 and the report that we did in the last couple hours, 207 00:11:19.330 --> 00:11:21.480 you could do that. Not a big deal, just letting 208 00:11:21.500 --> 00:11:24.899 you know that. All right, some questions. So, Madam Secretary, 209 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.279 since you claim you never met or communicated with Mr. Epstein, 210 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.379 how's it possible seeing that Mr. Epstein visited the White 211 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.889 House several times, I may be repeating some of the 212 00:11:33.909 --> 00:11:39.269 other questions, several times during your husband's presidency? Answer, I object. 213 00:11:39.570 --> 00:11:43.190 Because that's speculative, Congressman, her lawyer says. I'm not advising 214 00:11:43.230 --> 00:11:47.009 her not to answer, but it's speculating. She doesn't know. Question, 215 00:11:47.070 --> 00:11:49.909 Madam Secretary. Clinton, I don't know. I don't know how 216 00:11:49.929 --> 00:11:52.460 many times he visited. I've been told, but I don't 217 00:11:52.539 --> 00:11:56.720 know for my own information or personal experience. Question. Yeah, 218 00:11:56.779 --> 00:12:00.279 apparently it was 17 times. At least there's more than 219 00:12:00.299 --> 00:12:03.340 a dozen. All right, Secretary Clinton. Did you ever ask Ms. 220 00:12:03.379 --> 00:12:06.200 Maxwell about the validity of the Epstein crimes when he 221 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:09.929 was first accused? Answer. I don't recall any conversation with 222 00:12:09.950 --> 00:12:13.009 her about it. Question, and how well did you know her? Answer, 223 00:12:13.070 --> 00:12:16.450 not very well. Question, all right, Secretary Clinton, how do 224 00:12:16.470 --> 00:12:20.549 you feel about your husband being named in the Epstein files? Answer, well, 225 00:12:20.590 --> 00:12:23.120 I think it's something that is unfortunate, and I'm sure 226 00:12:23.139 --> 00:12:25.080 that he'll tell you that he wished he had not 227 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:29.580 flown on Epstein's plane. So it's unfortunate in my opinion. Question, 228

00:12:29.620 --> 00:12:33.980 Secretary Clinton, did Maxwell's nephew, Mr. Alexander DeRossi, I may 229 00:12:34.019 --> 00:12:37.940 be saying the name wrong, work for your 2008 campaign? Answer, 230 00:12:37.980 --> 00:12:40.480 as I said earlier, he volunteered for my campaign. He 231 00:12:40.500 --> 00:12:43.419 did a good job. My campaign staff hired him. He 232 00:12:43.460 --> 00:12:45.620 was an excellent employee, and then he had a very 233 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:49.919 relevant educational background and went to work at the State Department. Question, 234 00:12:50.179 --> 00:12:54.299 and Secretary Clinton, was Ms. Maxwell's nephew, Mr. Alexander DeRossi, 235 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:57.879 hired by the State Department shortly after you became Secretary 236 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:01.470 of State? Answer, yes he was. Question, and Secretary Clinton, 237 00:13:01.950 --> 00:13:04.889 by all accounts, at the time of his hiring... Mr. 238 00:13:04.950 --> 00:13:08.970 Alexander DeRossi had limited foreign policy experience. He was hired 239 00:13:09.009 --> 00:13:12.600 as a favor for Ms. Maxwell, wasn't he? Answer, not 240 00:13:12.620 --> 00:13:15.100 at all. I had no idea that he was related 241 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:17.559 to her, and I have absolutely no recollection or reason 242 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:21.179 to believe that she was involved at all. Question, well, 243 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:23.460 the people that I represent, and I think the country 244 00:13:23.500 --> 00:13:26.679 cares about most of this whole thing, is that we 245 00:13:26.710 --> 00:13:29.590 can learn so we can prevent people committing human trafficking 246 00:13:29.850 --> 00:13:32.190 in our country, in the world. And I think that's 247 00:13:32.230 --> 00:13:35.940 what we all care about. We care about that. And then, 248 00:13:36.259 --> 00:13:38.940 how did someone with such egregious behavior penetrate the highest 249 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:42.500 levels of government? Are the world leaders compromised? Are American 250 00:13:42.539 --> 00:13:45.779 politicians compromised? As you read the Epstein files and you 251 00:13:45.830 --> 00:13:50.049 read the reports, overwhelmingly, Epstein donated more to Democrats by 252 00:13:50.169 --> 00:13:53.190 far than he did Republicans. You served as Secretary of 253 00:13:53.210 --> 00:13:58.669 State from 2009 to 2013, is that correct? Answer, that's correct. Question, 254 00:13:59.820 --> 00:14:03.679 the State Department in the United States leads the effort 255 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.309 globally to combat... Human and sex trafficking. Is that a 256 00:14:06.350 --> 00:14:09.809 fair characterization? Answer. It's the responsibility of the State Department 257 00:14:10.309 --> 00:14:13.230 to try and hold countries accountable through our annual report 258 00:14:13.649 --> 00:14:15.580 and to work with countries to try and encourage them 259 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:20.139 to improve their laws and their enforcement. Question. In fact, 260 00:14:20.179 --> 00:14:23.720 Secretary of State's responsible for submitting an annual trafficking in 261 00:14:23.779 --> 00:14:27.700 persons or tip report. Is that correct? Answer. That is correct. Question. 262 00:14:28.259 --> 00:14:31.000 And Secretary Clinton, can you please explain what the report is? 263 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.559 What's the purpose of the report? What was your role 264 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:35.960 in the creation of the report? And did you have 265 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:40.370 final approval of the contents of the report, the TIP report? Answer, 266 00:14:40.669 --> 00:14:43.990 the report I believe is legislatively mandated. It's put together 267 00:14:44.049 --> 00:14:46.830 by the experts and State Department people who are responsible 268 00:14:46.870 --> 00:14:50.629 for following developments in trafficking through our embassies around the world. 269 00:14:51.509 --> 00:14:53.629 And what it does is it tries to assess whether 270 00:14:53.669 --> 00:14:57.019 countries are taking trafficking seriously. whether they have adequate laws, 271 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:00.659 whether they're enforcing those laws, whether judges are trained, whether 272 00:15:00.700 --> 00:15:03.960 law enforcement takes the crime seriously. And then every year, 273 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:07.519 the office responsible for the TIP report evaluates and describes 274 00:15:07.830 --> 00:15:10.909 what a country was doing. And in egregious cases where 275 00:15:10.929 --> 00:15:14.029 the countries are ignoring it, where the problem is getting worse, 276 00:15:14.350 --> 00:15:17.230 there can be sanctions employed. But usually the effort to 277 00:15:17.269 --> 00:15:19.809 stay out of the report in a negative way helps 278 00:15:19.909 --> 00:15:24.000 us diplomatically to persuade countries to take more action. Question, okay, 279 00:15:24.019 --> 00:15:26.360 so to be clear, The TIP reports were submitted to 280 00:15:26.419 --> 00:15:30.059 Congress during your tenure? Answer, yes. Question, and was human 281 00:15:30.100 --> 00:15:35.450 trafficking in the United States increasing or decreasing during that time? Answer, 282 00:15:35.490 --> 00:15:37.830 in the United States, I'm not familiar with the year-to-year numbers, 283 00:15:38.110 --> 00:15:40.509 but human trafficking has been a very big problem in 284 00:15:40.529 --> 00:15:42.789 the U.S. and elsewhere. And as you pointed out, all 285 00:15:42.830 --> 00:15:47.080 kinds of criminal organizations, gangs, cartels, find it profitable to 286 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:49.659 traffic human beings. So it kind of goes up and down, 287 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:53.159 depending on how effectively we're enforcing our laws or other 288 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:57.700 nations are enforcing theirs. Question, so during the Biden administration 289 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:00.419 open border policies, we don't know the number, we think 290 00:16:00.419 -->

00:16:03.639 15 to 20 million illegal criminal aliens, the cartels you 291 00:16:03.659 --> 00:16:07.340 probably saw in Colorado, where Tren de Aragua took over 292 00:16:07.379 --> 00:16:10.389 an apartment complex at gunpoint, and one guy called the police, 293 00:16:10.690 --> 00:16:12.309 they cut his fingers off and said, if you call 294 00:16:12.330 --> 00:16:14.309 the police again, we're going to cut off your hands. 295 00:16:14.970 --> 00:16:17.330 So would you agree that having a secure border is 296 00:16:17.370 --> 00:16:20.429 very important to prevent these cartels and these human traffickers 297 00:16:20.470 --> 00:16:24.899 from coming into our country and victimizing the American people? Answer, 298 00:16:25.179 --> 00:16:27.960 I've been in favor of secure borders and effective humane 299 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.259 immigration policy for as long as I've thought about it. 300 00:16:30.830 --> 00:16:32.570 And when I ran for the Senate, when I ran 301 00:16:32.590 --> 00:16:36.509 for president, I advocated for security at our borders, but 302 00:16:36.570 --> 00:16:40.470 also additional resources so that we could process the people 303 00:16:40.529 --> 00:16:42.649 who came to our borders in a more efficient and 304 00:16:42.669 --> 00:16:46.299 timely way. I voted for comprehensive immigration reform on a 305 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:48.899 bipartisan basis when I was in the Senate. So yes, 306 00:16:49.379 --> 00:16:53.889 I absolutely agree. We need secure borders. All right, folks, 307 00:16:53.909 --> 00:16:55.470 we're going to wrap up right there. And in the 308 00:16:55.509 --> 00:16:58.149 next episode, we're going to pick up with, yeah, so 309 00:16:58.190 --> 00:17:00.090 what are the tools? Because we want to get to 310 00:17:00.110 --> 00:17:03.220 the bottom. All the information that goes with this episode 311 00:17:03.259 --> 00:17:06.460 can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone? 312 00:17:06.539 --> 00:17:10.380 And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In 313 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:12.039 this episode, we're going to pick up where we left 314 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.420 off with the Hillary Clinton transcript from her trip to Congress. 315 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:22.099 Hillary Clinton, I have no information about that. Question by Mr. McGuire. 316 00:17:23.069 --> 00:17:24.990 If I take you at your word, or we take 317 00:17:25.009 --> 00:17:27.130 you at your word, you let Epstein and his close 318 00:17:27.170 --> 00:17:30.390 associates close to your family, close to the Clinton Foundation. 319 00:17:30.750 --> 00:17:33.549 Do you feel you made a mistake? Answer, I never 320 00:17:33.589 --> 00:17:35.589 met him, so I have no way of judging. I 321 00:17:35.630 --> 00:17:37.750 never met him. And I wish he had been stopped 322 00:17:37.809 --> 00:17:40.250 in 2008 instead of given a slap on the wrist 323 00:17:40.289 --> 00:17:43.369 like he was. Answer, thank you. And with

that, it 324 00:17:43.410 --> 00:17:46.930 concludes the majority's time. Now they go off the record. 325 00:17:47.410 --> 00:17:51.109 Now they come back on. Speaker number five, whoever that is. 326 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:54.200 We can go back on the record, ma'am. I have 327 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:56.680 just a few questions about things you discussed in the 328 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:58.809 previous round, and then I'll turn it over to a 329 00:17:58.849 --> 00:18:01.549 member of the committee. There were a few cases of 330 00:18:01.589 --> 00:18:06.049 mistaken identity, I think, in the previous hour. Answer, yeah. Question, 331 00:18:06.069 --> 00:18:09.720 so for one, we understand that Bob Torricelli was the 332 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:13.920 DSCC chairman when you ran for Senate, not Bob Kerry. 333 00:18:14.339 --> 00:18:16.059 I think you got that one right, and I just 334 00:18:16.099 --> 00:18:20.329 wanted to confirm that for you. Answer, yes. Question, no. 335 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:22.980 In addition, John Sculley is a businessman who at one 336 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:26.180 point was the CEO of Apple. Steve Sculley is some 337 00:18:26.220 --> 00:18:28.819 kind of IT person in the Virgin Islands. Am I 338 00:18:28.859 --> 00:18:30.890 correct to say that you do not know Steve Sculley, 339 00:18:31.190 --> 00:18:34.549 the IT guy in the Virgin Islands? Answer, that is correct. 340 00:18:35.430 --> 00:18:37.509 So what does that have to do with anything? Steve 341 00:18:37.529 --> 00:18:40.710 Sculley corroborated with what Virginia said. And if you don't 342 00:18:40.730 --> 00:18:42.769 like that, I don't really care. And if you feel 343 00:18:42.829 --> 00:18:45.720 protective of the Clintons, this is not the right topic 344 00:18:46.019 --> 00:18:51.650 for you. Question, great. You were asked several times, and 345 00:18:51.690 --> 00:18:53.730 I just want to get it clean here in one place, 346 00:18:54.029 --> 00:18:57.019 whether your husband visited Mr. Epstein's Island in the U.S. 347 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:00.319 Virgin Islands. Firstly, to be clear, you yourself did not 348 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:05.240 visit Mr. Epstein's Island. Is that right? Answer, that is right. Question, 349 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:07.740 and am I right that it's your understanding that your 350 00:19:07.779 --> 00:19:12.369 husband also did not visit Mr. Epstein's Island? Answer, that's 351 00:19:12.410 --> 00:19:14.930 my understanding, and I think there is significant evidence to 352 00:19:14.970 --> 00:19:18.190 back that up, including that the Secret Service... actually went 353 00:19:18.230 --> 00:19:20.210 on record to say they had never been on the island, 354 00:19:20.589 --> 00:19:25.160 and that my husband had never signed off Secret Service protection. Question. 355 00:19:25.700 --> 00:19:28.400 You took the next question, which was to clarify that, 356 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:32.480 as far as... Hillary jumps in again. Let's clarify it again. 357 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:37.549 Maybe they'll hear it this way. Question. We'll double clarify that, 358 00:19:37.670 --> 00:19:40.450 as you know, your husband did not separate himself from 359 00:19:40.490 --> 00:19:43.029 the Secret Service detail in order to fly on Mr. 360 00:19:43.089 --> 00:19:47.349 Epstein's plane. Answer. As far as I know, He never 361 00:19:47.380 --> 00:19:50.589 signed off on Secret Service Protection, so she's calling. Virginia 362 00:19:50.609 --> 00:19:53.619 a liar, and the Democrats are backing that up. Keep 363 00:19:53.630 --> 00:20:00.720 that in mind. Just the facts, folks, right? Question, one 364 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:04.529 last one from me. Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez was 365 00:20:04.569 --> 00:20:07.170 Attorney General at the time that Mr. Epstein received his 366 00:20:07.190 --> 00:20:10.089 sweetheart deal. As far as you know, was former Attorney 367 00:20:10.109 --> 00:20:14.049 General Gonzalez required to physically come in for his deposition 368 00:20:14.369 --> 00:20:17.369 as you are today? That is not true either. It 369 00:20:17.410 --> 00:20:23.970 was Mukasey and Philippe. Mukasey was the interim in 2007, 370 00:20:23.970 --> 00:20:27.309 and Gonzalez didn't come in until 2008. They don't even 371 00:20:27.329 --> 00:20:30.019 know what they're talking about, the senators and the congresspeople. 372 00:20:30.299 --> 00:20:31.920 And I mean, you would think that the people that 373 00:20:32.019 --> 00:20:35.000 are tasked with actually knowing what's going on would actually 374 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:39.119 know what's going on, but I guess not. Answer, as 375 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:42.390 far as I know, former Attorney General Gonzalez was not 376 00:20:42.430 --> 00:20:44.970 required to come in. He gave a statement, a very 377 00:20:45.009 --> 00:20:47.569 short statement, saying he didn't know anything and he was 378 00:20:47.630 --> 00:20:50.490 excused from appearing. But I think I would be useful 379 00:20:50.549 --> 00:20:53.279 for the committee to probe the information that was available 380 00:20:53.619 --> 00:20:57.119 between Alex Acosta and the Department of Justice. during that 381 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:00.630 period of time when Epstein was charged with crimes. Yeah, 382 00:21:00.670 --> 00:21:03.450 like the year of emails that disappeared. Might be a 383 00:21:03.450 --> 00:21:07.170 good idea to look for those. I know, just another conspiracy, right? 384 00:21:07.670 --> 00:21:12.390 Just another coincidence. Question. Lastly, I will read the names 385 00:21:12.430 --> 00:21:15.450 of some other individuals who were subpoenaed by this committee 386 00:21:15.490 --> 00:21:18.150 in connection with the investigation. And I'll just ask you 387 00:21:18.450 --> 00:21:22.200 if you're understanding that those individuals were required to physically 388 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:27.710 come in for a deposition. Former Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Answer.

389 00:21:27.730 --> 00:21:30.930 It's my understanding that he was not required. Question. Former 390 00:21:31.069 --> 00:21:35.569 FBI Director Robert Mueller. Answer. Not required. Question. Former Attorney 391 00:21:35.609 --> 00:21:40.269 General Loretta Lynch. Answer. She was not required. Question. How 392 00:21:40.329 --> 00:21:47.490 about Eric Holder? No. Question. And former Attorney General Merrick Garland. Answer. No. Question. 393 00:21:47.650 --> 00:21:52.059 And former FBI Director James Comey. Answer. No. Question. Thank you. 394 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:58.109 Now the next speaker. Madam Secretary, good afternoon. Clinton, hello, Congressman. Question, 395 00:21:58.430 --> 00:22:01.609 thank you for your patience today. As we've discussed, you 396 00:22:01.650 --> 00:22:06.829 served in a variety of official roles from 93 to 2013. First, Lady, 397 00:22:07.269 --> 00:22:11.109 Senator from New York, Secretary of State. During your time 398 00:22:11.150 --> 00:22:13.789 in any of those positions, did you have responsibility for 399 00:22:13.829 --> 00:22:18.779 the investigation or the prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein? Answer, I 400 00:22:18.819 --> 00:22:22.230 did not. Question, during your time in these positions... Were 401 00:22:22.259 --> 00:22:26.460 you ever involved in any investigation or prosecution of Epstein? Answer, 402 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:33.500 I was not. That's the problem, dum-dums. Nobody investigated the guy. Question, 403 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:37.180 which agency, just given your experience and knowledge, what are 404 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:39.559 some of the agencies or agencies that would have been 405 00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:45.359 involved or were involved in those kinds of investigations and prosecutions? Answer, 406 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:47.940 I don't know personally, but just looking at the responsibility 407 00:22:47.980 --> 00:22:51.339 of various agencies, it would be local, state, and federal 408 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:54.740 law enforcement, and at the federal level, obviously the Department 409 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:57.519 of Justice, it might as well have been the Border Control, 410 00:22:57.819 --> 00:23:01.750 and FAA, or TSA, other agencies that had anything to 411 00:23:01.809 --> 00:23:07.349 do with transportation. Question, but in your experience, not First Lady, Senators, 412 00:23:07.450 --> 00:23:10.390 or Secretaries of State? Answer, not in my experience, none 413 00:23:10.410 --> 00:23:13.789 of the above. Question, in any of your roles, did 414 00:23:13.809 --> 00:23:18.329 you ever seek to influence any level of government activity, investigation, prosecution, 415 00:23:18.890 --> 00:23:23.150 related to Jeffrey Epstein? Answer, I did not. Question, similarly, 416 00:23:23.230 --> 00:23:27.079 during your tenure in these positions, did you have responsibility 417 00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:31.059 for the investigation or prosecution of Glenn Maxwell? Answer, I 418 00:23:31.079 -->

00:23:34.460 did not. Question, were you involved in the investigation or 419 00:23:34.500 --> 00:23:39.220 prosecution of Glenn Maxwell? Answer, I was not. Question, thank you. 420 00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:42.460 During your tenure, did you ever seek to influence any 421 00:23:42.500 --> 00:23:47.460 level of government investigation or prosecution of Glenn Maxwell? Answer, 422 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:51.759 I did not. Question, okay, one of the things that 423 00:23:51.779 --> 00:23:55.380 was discussed earlier was a conversation between Ghislaine Maxwell and 424 00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:59.079 Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, after which Ghislaine Maxwell was 425 00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:04.049 transferred to a lower security, more comfortable prison situation. Are 426 00:24:04.089 --> 00:24:06.970 you familiar with that sequence of events? Answer, I've read 427 00:24:06.990 --> 00:24:10.769 about that, yes. Question, and when we, this committee, deposed 428 00:24:10.789 --> 00:24:14.049 Ghislaine Maxwell, her attorney requested a pardon on her behalf, 429 00:24:14.690 --> 00:24:17.859 or rather stated that if she were pardoned, she would 430 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:20.339 be at liberty to share more information with the committee 431 00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:23.519 and others. Are you familiar with that? Or have you 432 00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:27.000 read about that? Answer, I read about that. Question, and 433 00:24:27.019 --> 00:24:30.119 the media has asked President Trump if he's considering pardoning 434 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.500 of Glenn Maxwell, and he, to date, has not ruled 435 00:24:33.579 --> 00:24:37.680 out a pardon or clemency for Glenn Maxwell. And because 436 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.410 we've talked with you today about your role as Secretary 437 00:24:40.450 --> 00:24:43.769 of State in trying to ensure that there are stronger policies, laws, 438 00:24:43.869 --> 00:24:48.670 protections to prevent sex trafficking, child trafficking, human trafficking, I 439 00:24:48.690 --> 00:24:51.839 just want to ask you, from your perspective, what signal 440 00:24:51.930 --> 00:24:54.359 would it send to those in the United States or 441 00:24:54.380 --> 00:24:56.660 around the world who might want to engage in those 442 00:24:56.700 --> 00:25:00.160 crimes if somebody convicted of those crimes were pardoned by 443 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.869 the President of the United States? Answer, I think it 444 00:25:03.890 --> 00:25:08.769 would send absolutely the wrong signal. Question, in your experience, 445 00:25:09.069 --> 00:25:13.000 I'll ask again, Do First Ladies or Secretaries of State 446 00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:19.220 or Senators oversee or be involved in specific sex trafficking investigations? Answer, no. 447 00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:22.140 As I said earlier, Congressman, the Secretary of State has 448 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.329 a responsibility to try to use diplomatic authority, the power 449 00:25:26.369 --> 00:25:29.349 of sanctions, to convince other countries to improve their laws 450 00:25:29.730 --> 00:25:33.890 and enforce them. Question, in your opinion, and you may 451 00:25:33.930 --> 00:25:36.509 have touched on this to some extent, who should this 452 00:25:36.549 --> 00:25:38.890 committee be speaking to if we wanted to know more 453 00:25:38.930 --> 00:25:46.269 information about on specific federal sex trafficking investigations, previous, current, future. Clinton, 454 00:25:46.630 --> 00:25:49.170 I think the Department of Justice, which is the primary 455 00:25:49.210 --> 00:25:52.170 law enforcement agency of our government, and perhaps some of 456 00:25:52.190 --> 00:25:55.869 the individual U.S. attorneys and Attorney General that might have 457 00:25:55.970 --> 00:26:01.109 units devoted to trying to prevent and prosecute human trafficking. Question, 458 00:26:01.130 --> 00:26:03.289 thank you, that's all I have. And we can go 459 00:26:03.349 --> 00:26:06.349 off record. So they go off record, now they're come 460 00:26:06.369 --> 00:26:10.559 back on, and Eric Burleson is asking the questions. So 461 00:26:10.779 --> 00:26:13.480 I'm going to begin with some lighthearted different questions, and 462 00:26:13.500 --> 00:26:15.900 you're welcome to ignore them if you want to. But 463 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:17.660 while I have you here, I just wanted to ask. 464 00:26:18.329 --> 00:26:21.750 So when your husband was president, it was Lawrence Rockefeller, 465 00:26:22.109 --> 00:26:24.170 and he had an effort to try and disclose UFOs 466 00:26:24.210 --> 00:26:27.410 and UAPs. When you were running for president, John Podesta 467 00:26:27.809 --> 00:26:31.230 publicly stated that you would disclose these files. If given 468 00:26:31.269 --> 00:26:34.029 the chance, if you had been president, are you pleased 469 00:26:34.069 --> 00:26:37.569 to see that these files may be disclosed finally? What 470 00:26:37.589 --> 00:26:42.970 are we doing? Why are we talking about UFOs? Answer, 471 00:26:43.109 --> 00:26:45.630 I'm pleased. As I say, I think they have to 472 00:26:45.670 --> 00:26:49.130 be carefully scrutinized so that no national security information is disclosed. 473 00:26:49.650 --> 00:26:52.099 But this is an issue of real importance to so 474 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:54.940 many people. And I think whatever can be disclosed should 475 00:26:54.980 --> 00:26:59.200 be disclosed. Question, was there a program that specifically that 476 00:26:59.259 --> 00:27:03.140 was referencing that you were aware of? Answer, I was not. 477 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.039 As you mentioned, John Podesta, who was one of my advisors, 478 00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:09.000 was deeply interested in the issue. And if I had 479 00:27:09.019 --> 00:27:12.519 been elected, I certainly would have listened to his advice. Question, well, 480 00:27:12.579 --> 00:27:15.480 thank you for your indulgence on that. As you know, 481 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:19.500 Alexander Acosta,

who gave Epstein the 2009 plea deal, maybe 482 00:27:19.539 --> 00:27:22.880 instead of talking so much about aliens and this other bullshit, 483 00:27:23.900 --> 00:27:26.970 you brush up on what actually happened. He said whenever 484 00:27:27.009 --> 00:27:29.509 he was asked that he belonged to intelligence and to 485 00:27:29.549 --> 00:27:32.009 leave it alone. Were you, and I think you've answered 486 00:27:32.029 --> 00:27:35.130 this before, but if you could answer more directly, were 487 00:27:35.170 --> 00:27:38.190 you or anyone in the Obama administration, through your role 488 00:27:38.250 --> 00:27:41.470 in the State Department or even afterward in the Clinton Foundation, 489 00:27:42.210 --> 00:28:13.140 Question Question Question Question Was it ever responded to? Question, 490 00:28:13.180 --> 00:28:17.660 that's a good question. Clinton, I know nothing about it. Question, 491 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:23.289 and typically they haven't responded to us on our FOIA requests. 492 00:28:23.309 --> 00:28:25.410 In 2014, Epstein met with William Burns, who was a 493 00:28:25.450 --> 00:28:30.730 senior State Department official and later CIA director. Warrior jumps in, 494 00:28:30.769 --> 00:28:34.319 excuse me, could you say what year that was again? Burleson, 2014. Question, 495 00:28:34.380 --> 00:28:39.940 in 2014 he met with Burns? Answer, uh-huh. Epstein met 496 00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.640 with William Burns. As the Secretary of State at the time, 497 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.640 were you aware of that meeting? Clinton, I wasn't Secretary 498 00:28:45.660 --> 00:28:50.190 of State in 2014. Answer, or question, okay, were you 499 00:28:50.250 --> 00:28:54.950 aware of that meeting with Mr. Burns? Clinton, I was not. Burleson, okay, 500 00:28:54.990 --> 00:28:58.829 and finally, Ghislaine Maxwell's father was Robert Maxwell, who was 501 00:28:58.869 --> 00:29:03.150 widely reported as being Mossad or MI6 intelligence. In any 502 00:29:03.170 --> 00:29:06.049 of your conversations with Maxwell, or people connected to her, 503 00:29:06.750 --> 00:29:10.210 did they ever mention Robert Maxwell's intelligence background? Or any 504 00:29:10.390 --> 00:29:16.339 ongoing foreign or domestic intelligence connections through your conversations or interactions? Clinton, 505 00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:19.019 I have never talked to anybody about whether that is 506 00:29:19.059 --> 00:29:22.240 true or not. I don't know. Question, were you aware 507 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:24.859 that when Maxwell attended your wedding, she was skipping a 508 00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:29.200 court order deposition in the Epstein victim's lawsuit? Maxwell's lawyer 509 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:31.660 jumps in. Excuse me, do you mean her wedding or 510 00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:35.319 do you mean her daughter's wedding? Question, I'm sorry, your 511 00:29:35.339 --> 00:29:37.980 daughter's wedding. I'm sorry, when she attended your daughter's wedding. 512 00:29:38.319 -->

00:29:40.730 Were you aware that she was skipping a court ordered? 513 00:29:41.619 --> 00:29:43.559 Clinton jumps in, I had no idea, I didn't know 514 00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.359 anything about that. Question, is this the first time you're 515 00:29:46.380 --> 00:29:50.680 hearing that? Answer, it is the first time I'm hearing that. Burleson, 516 00:29:50.940 --> 00:29:53.940 but at the time, she was going through the investigation. Clinton, 517 00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:55.740 I knew nothing about it at the time, so I 518 00:29:55.759 --> 00:30:01.789 can't respond. Question, okay, later Chelsea vacationed with Maxwell in 2009. 519 00:30:01.789 --> 00:30:06.549 And reportedly, Hillary Clinton jumps in, that was before the wedding. Answer, yeah, okay, 520 00:30:06.569 --> 00:30:10.650 before that. She vacationed 2009. Was reportedly friendly with her. 521 00:30:10.890 --> 00:30:14.410 Are you aware of the nature of that relationship? Answer, 522 00:30:14.509 --> 00:30:17.990 I think you described it. It was a friendly relationship. Question, 523 00:30:18.029 --> 00:30:19.809 is it safe to say that she was closer to 524 00:30:19.829 --> 00:30:22.839 Glenn Maxwell than you were? Answer, I had very little 525 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.799 contact with Glenn Maxwell, so I can't speak to anybody 526 00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:29.880 else's relationship. only my own. Question, but is it safe 527 00:30:29.900 --> 00:30:32.400 to say she was closer? Answer, I'm not going to 528 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:35.660 characterize it because I don't know. Question, okay, Chelsea was 529 00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:39.519 also in attendance at the wedding in Morocco in 2002. 530 00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.079 It's also been documented that Epstein was there, as well 531 00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:45.779 as Maxwell. At that time, she would have been 21, 532 00:30:45.779 --> 00:30:48.400 maybe 22 years old. Do you have any concerns, or 533 00:30:48.460 --> 00:30:53.049 have you asked your daughter about any potential inappropriate activity? Answer, 534 00:30:53.349 --> 00:30:56.539 you know, All these questions about concerns that predate the 535 00:30:56.579 --> 00:30:59.240 charges and pleas of Epstein are very hard to answer 536 00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.579 because people did not know. Question at the time, answer 537 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.900 at the time. And all the questions about contribution to 538 00:31:06.940 --> 00:31:09.970 the joint committee, people didn't know. And so in retrospect, 539 00:31:10.029 --> 00:31:13.410 nobody would have had any contact with someone like that. Well, 540 00:31:13.430 --> 00:31:16.250 couldn't you use the same excuse for everybody else? Like 541 00:31:16.289 --> 00:31:19.509 everybody that you're claiming should be up here? Everybody should 542 00:31:19.529 --> 00:31:23.650 get that same kind of luxury, that excuse? Okay, I guess. 543 00:31:26.490 --> 00:31:28.539 And those people who continue to have contact with him 544 00:31:28.599

--> 00:31:31.059 after he pled guilty are in a different group because 545 00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:35.099 that happened and they still maintain contact with him. Question, 546 00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:38.119 I think we're all experiencing that. Where we're having a 547 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:40.769 revelation of what we didn't know at the time, but 548 00:31:40.789 --> 00:31:44.950 in reflecting back, certainly it's appropriate to ask questions. And 549 00:31:44.970 --> 00:31:47.450 so my question is, knowing what happened at the time, 550 00:31:48.130 --> 00:31:51.150 have you had conversations with her? Was there any inappropriate 551 00:31:51.210 --> 00:31:55.730 activity during that time? Answer, at that time, Nothing was known, 552 00:31:56.069 --> 00:31:59.069 and nothing untowards occurred. And then there was no further 553 00:31:59.109 --> 00:32:03.670 contact with him, so I can't really speculate about that further. Question, 554 00:32:03.710 --> 00:32:05.970 we can all agree, I think, that Jeffrey Epstein was 555 00:32:06.009 --> 00:32:09.950 a monster. That he was empowered or enabled by Ghislaine Maxwell. 556 00:32:10.730 --> 00:32:13.349 I think we can all agree with that, correct? Answer, 557 00:32:13.450 --> 00:32:16.230 I can't characterize a relationship. I think you can agree 558 00:32:16.269 --> 00:32:18.869 that he committed crimes, he was not fully held accountable 559 00:32:18.910 --> 00:32:22.210 for them, which could have stopped his predatory practices, perhaps, 560 00:32:22.529 --> 00:32:25.569 that continued for quite some time afterward. And then he 561 00:32:25.609 --> 00:32:28.769 was finally indicted for serious crimes, and he's in prison, 562 00:32:29.029 --> 00:32:32.109 and then he mysteriously dies. And with her, she was 563 00:32:32.150 --> 00:32:34.670 finally indicted, tried, and convicted. And I think you have 564 00:32:34.690 --> 00:32:37.230 to look at it in the chronological way in which 565 00:32:37.269 --> 00:32:41.819 it unfolded. Question, yeah. I think there's varying degrees of culpability. 566 00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.599 She was certainly going beyond just being silent in her 567 00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.380 knowledge about the horrible acts that he was doing, but 568 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:51.279 she was actually enabling it. Answer, that's what she was 569 00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:54.880 convicted of. So you can't just agree, you can't just say, yeah, 570 00:32:54.910 --> 00:32:57.140 she's a monster, she's a piece of garbage, and that's 571 00:32:57.180 --> 00:33:00.400 because Hillary Clinton, breaking news, was friends with Ghislaine Maxwell. 572 00:33:00.779 --> 00:33:02.779 I know people don't want to hear it, but that's 573 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.200 the truth. Question, that's right. But if she had not 574 00:33:07.220 --> 00:33:09.519 been enabling, if she had not been taking those steps, 575 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:12.259 if she had just been silent, question, are you asking 576 00:33:12.299 --> 00:33:16.380 her to speculate? Burleson responds, I'm asking, would you agree 577 00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:20.319 that she'd be culpable as well, just in her silence? Answer, no. 578 00:33:20.829 --> 00:33:22.690 I have no information about that, so I'm not going 579 00:33:22.730 --> 00:33:27.220 to speculate. Burleson? Okay. All right. With that, I'm done. 580 00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.500 All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here. 581 00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:31.740 And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're 582 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:34.019 going to pick up where we left off. All the 583 00:33:34.059 --> 00:33:37.549 information that goes with this episode can be found in 584 00:33:37.589 --> 00:33:40.849 the description box. What's up, everyone? And welcome to another 585 00:33:40.910 --> 00:33:44.609 episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going 586 00:33:44.630 --> 00:33:46.710 to pick up where we left off with the Hillary 587 00:33:46.789 --> 00:33:51.380 Clinton transcript from her trip to Congress. And now, doing 588 00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:57.119 the questioning, is Scott Perry. Good afternoon, Madam Secretary. Answer, 589 00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.819 good afternoon. Question, you live in a particularly beautiful part 590 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:06.319 of the country. Answer, thank you. Question, good for you. Answer, 591 00:34:06.500 --> 00:34:10.340 it's very pretty up here. Question, Madam Secretary, once it 592 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.460 was revealed publicly that you and President Clinton were connected, 593 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.719 I'm going to use that term, to Jeffrey Epstein and 594 00:34:16.739 --> 00:34:20.849 Glenn Maxwell, did you discuss the subject with your daughter? Answer, 595 00:34:21.309 --> 00:34:22.909 I'm not going to talk about what I did or 596 00:34:22.949 --> 00:34:25.320 didn't discuss with family members, but I can tell you 597 00:34:25.619 --> 00:34:27.760 that it was something that was a grave concern to us. 598 00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:31.619 Scott Perry, I imagine it was. And I know that you're, look, 599 00:34:31.980 --> 00:34:33.780 I think we could probably get a long way here 600 00:34:34.219 --> 00:34:36.639 if we could discuss or have a view into your 601 00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.610 discussion with your husband. I suspect you're going to object 602 00:34:39.650 --> 00:34:43.150 to that. Answer, you're right, congressman. Thank you for getting 603 00:34:43.190 --> 00:34:48.329 me that, for granting me that. Question, these are reasonable questions. Clinton, 604 00:34:48.730 --> 00:34:52.289 but congressman. He cuts her off. Did your daughter discuss 605 00:34:52.329 --> 00:34:55.489 it with you? Answer. Well, we were all horrified by 606 00:34:55.590 --> 00:34:58.929 what was later. Cut off again by Perry. Horrified in 607 00:34:58.980 --> 00:35:01.800 what way? We were all horrified of what we learned 608 00:35:01.820 --> 00:35:06.659 about

Jeffrey Epstein, Glenn Maxwell, the victims, Clinton, right, right. Question. 609 00:35:07.019 --> 00:35:09.539 But did you discuss with your daughter when you say 610 00:35:09.579 --> 00:35:12.170 you were horrified the connection with her father and the 611 00:35:12.230 --> 00:35:16.750 Epstein episode? Answer. My husband's connection with Jeffrey Epstein began 612 00:35:17.050 --> 00:35:20.219 and ended before he was charged with any crime. And 613 00:35:20.260 --> 00:35:22.579 so in retrospect, we all say, oh my gosh, that 614 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:26.559 was horrific. And why didn't more people know? And why 615 00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:29.699 didn't more people speak out at the time? But I 616 00:35:29.739 --> 00:35:33.699 think the chronology is critically important. If we're talking about post-crime, 617 00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.659 that there was a continuing connection with him, that would 618 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:42.409 be unacceptable. But it ended before he was charged. Question, 619 00:35:42.469 --> 00:35:45.469 I understand that, which is why I particularly said once 620 00:35:45.510 --> 00:35:48.289 it was revealed publicly. I get that continuing to be 621 00:35:48.349 --> 00:35:52.119 involved with someone like that after it was knowledgeable to everyone, 622 00:35:52.420 --> 00:35:55.960 would be almost an unforgivable sin. However, I'm married too. 623 00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:58.460 Not as long as you, ma'am, but there would be 624 00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.119 questions in my family. Even if I went back before 625 00:36:01.179 --> 00:36:05.639 we were married, there would be questions. Congressman? The lawyer 626 00:36:05.659 --> 00:36:07.590 jumps in. I don't want to interrupt you, but I 627 00:36:07.610 --> 00:36:11.250 don't understand the question. Scott Perry, so my question is, 628 00:36:11.530 --> 00:36:13.849 did your daughter discuss it with you? That was my 629 00:36:13.889 --> 00:36:19.510 particular question. Answer? I think I can't recollect any specific conversation, 630 00:36:19.789 --> 00:36:22.369 but of course we discussed the horrific crimes that he 631 00:36:22.389 --> 00:36:25.949 was accused of. Question, but nothing about her father's connection 632 00:36:25.989 --> 00:36:29.860 to it? Answer, her father's connection began and ended before 633 00:36:29.889 --> 00:36:32.559 he was charged with crimes. Question, did your daughter ever 634 00:36:32.619 --> 00:36:36.519 mention to you that she discussed this matter with her father? Answer, 635 00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.480 I don't recollect that. Question, did you see photos of 636 00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:43.139 your husband with young girls related to Jeffrey Epstein? Answer, 637 00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.320 I saw the few photos that my lawyer showed me. 638 00:36:46.170 --> 00:36:48.570 Question right. Did you see the photos of your husband 639 00:36:48.829 --> 00:36:52.110 with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell? Answer. I have seen 640 00:36:52.150 --> 00:36:55.989 such photos. Question. They're out there, right? Answer. Yeah. Question. 641 00:36:56.030 --> 00:36:58.690 I imagine you're familiar, but I just want to make sure. 642 00:36:59.230 --> 00:37:02.880 Since seeing these photos, have any questions about the content, location, 643 00:37:03.219 --> 00:37:07.559 general circumstances come to your mind? Answer. No. It was 644 00:37:07.619 --> 00:37:11.420 unfortunate that he ever did anything with Jeffrey Epstein. Question. 645 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:14.880 There was no curiosity. Lawyer jumps in. Excuse me. Are 646 00:37:14.900 --> 00:37:17.820 you asking for an opinion? Or is there a fact 647 00:37:17.860 --> 00:37:20.260 that she can share with you that would be helpful 648 00:37:20.300 --> 00:37:24.570 in your investigation? Perry, well, I did say there were 649 00:37:24.630 --> 00:37:27.349 any questions. I'll give you an example. If I saw 650 00:37:27.389 --> 00:37:29.869 a picture with my wife, it's just really hard to 651 00:37:29.889 --> 00:37:32.949 be relevant. If my wife saw pictures with me as 652 00:37:32.989 --> 00:37:35.780 a grown man hanging out with obviously or close to 653 00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:39.280 underage women, regardless if it was before we were married 654 00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.000 or not, it would be a question. And so what 655 00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.320 I'm asking you is, did any question regarding those photographs 656 00:37:45.619 --> 00:37:48.710 come to your mind? Answer, I'm going to, just as 657 00:37:48.809 --> 00:37:51.409 clearly as I can state this, say I don't see 658 00:37:51.449 --> 00:37:53.730 the relevance of your question, and I'm not going to 659 00:37:53.769 --> 00:37:56.610 talk about conversations that I had with my family, especially 660 00:37:56.650 --> 00:38:01.300 my husband. Question, and for clarity, are you all asserting 661 00:38:01.340 --> 00:38:04.699 spousal privilege? Lawyer, for clarity, we're looking for the relevance 662 00:38:04.739 --> 00:38:07.340 of her conversation with her husband and what she might 663 00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:10.380 have thought about her conversations with. How does that help 664 00:38:10.460 --> 00:38:14.000 further the legislative purpose of the committee as they investigate 665 00:38:14.019 --> 00:38:19.429 the prosecution and investigation of Epstein? Lawyer, I think Mr. 666 00:38:19.469 --> 00:38:22.750 Perry's questions directly relate to. The other lawyer jumps in. 667 00:38:22.909 --> 00:38:25.530 To her daughter? To her husband? Clinton to what? My 668 00:38:25.570 --> 00:38:29.889 state of mind? Lawyer, state of mind? Clinton, what possible 669 00:38:29.989 --> 00:38:32.960 relevance does my state of mind have to the investigation? 670 00:38:34.579 --> 00:38:36.400 So they go back and forth for a minute. Now 671 00:38:36.460 --> 00:38:39.179 Clinton says, I'm not here to give opinions. I'm here 672 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:42.179 to answer factual questions. And I have answered for

many 673 00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.530 hours now. That I had no relationships. because I never 674 00:38:45.570 --> 00:38:47.650 met the guy, to the best of my recollection, with 675 00:38:47.690 --> 00:38:52.429 Jeffrey Epstein. Perry, and I'm not implying, and you shouldn't ever, 676 00:38:52.449 --> 00:38:55.519 that I have made that connection. I'm not implying that. 677 00:38:56.599 --> 00:39:00.000 You're still married, Madam Secretary? Still married, correct? Answer, that's 678 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:03.340 very true. Question, okay, can you identify the man in 679 00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:07.250 these photos? Answer, I can't see them across the table. Question, 680 00:39:07.289 --> 00:39:09.949 let me get them a little closer. Lawyer, so just 681 00:39:09.969 --> 00:39:11.949 for the record, you would like her to identify pictures 682 00:39:11.989 --> 00:39:15.349 of her spouse? Perry, yeah. Question, you need her to 683 00:39:15.389 --> 00:39:19.739 testify on pictures of her spouse? Hillary Clinton, the 42nd 684 00:39:19.780 --> 00:39:23.480 President of the United States of America? That's my husband. Question, okay, 685 00:39:23.500 --> 00:39:26.030 do you know the location? Answer, I have no knowledge 686 00:39:26.050 --> 00:39:29.110 of the location. I have context for the location. I 687 00:39:29.130 --> 00:39:32.579 know nothing about the location. Question. If you were informed 688 00:39:32.860 --> 00:39:36.099 that that's on Mr. Epstein's plane, lawyer, would you like 689 00:39:36.139 --> 00:39:39.559 her to speculate based on your opinion or fact? Perry. No, ma'am. 690 00:39:39.980 --> 00:39:42.500 If you let me ask my question, if you were 691 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:46.039 informed that was on Mr. Epstein's plane, that is known 692 00:39:46.059 --> 00:39:48.860 to have frequented not only the island, but other locations 693 00:39:48.889 --> 00:39:52.550 where sexual abuse horrific sexual abuse occurred. Would you have 694 00:39:52.590 --> 00:39:56.309 any questions about those photos and who's in them? Lawyer 695 00:39:56.349 --> 00:40:00.550 jumps in. Objection. Calls for speculation. States facts. Not in evidence. 696 00:40:00.929 --> 00:40:03.840 I'm not instructing you not to answer. Hillary. Well, no, 697 00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:06.619 I'm not going to speculate. Perry. Do you know the 698 00:40:06.659 --> 00:40:08.320 names of any of the young girls in the photo 699 00:40:08.340 --> 00:40:12.619 with your husband? Answer. The faces are blacked out. Congressman. Correct. 700 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.710 That's the lawyer. Perry. I understand that, but the photos 701 00:40:15.750 --> 00:40:19.050 are out there. Questioned by the lawyer. Are you saying 702 00:40:19.139 --> 00:40:21.239 she should be able to know who the individuals are 703 00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:25.460 when they're in the photos and they're blacked out? Now, 704 00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:28.559 Perry responds, what I'm saying is that a normal relationship, 705 00:40:28.860 --> 00:40:30.980 you would probably ask the person that you're sleeping with 706 00:40:31.300 --> 00:40:34.760 who that person in the photo is. Lawyer, well, there 707 00:40:34.780 --> 00:40:36.420 are many things that I would just like to stay 708 00:40:37.219 --> 00:40:38.909 and I'd like to stay on the record here. Thank you. 709 00:40:38.929 --> 00:40:42.130 Another lawyer jumps in. Let's wait for a question at 710 00:40:42.170 --> 00:40:44.829 which you can give a factual answer. Clinton, that would 711 00:40:44.849 --> 00:40:48.500 be helpful. Perry, Are you aware of a single misstatement 712 00:40:48.539 --> 00:40:51.239 of fact from any person who you know or believe 713 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:55.789 to be an Epstein victim? Answer. I have got no 714 00:40:55.849 --> 00:40:59.909 knowledge of all the statements of fact. Question. So at 715 00:40:59.949 --> 00:41:03.469 this point, the answer would be no. Answer. I don't know. 716 00:41:03.789 --> 00:41:07.210 I have no way of knowing. Question. Please don't mischaracterize 717 00:41:07.250 --> 00:41:10.670 her statement. That's the lawyer. Perry again. Are you aware 718 00:41:10.690 --> 00:41:13.760 that your husband's name is noted multiple times in Jeffrey 719 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.090 Epstein's flight logs? Clinton, I think everyone knows that he 720 00:41:17.130 --> 00:41:19.829 flew on Jeffrey Epstein's plane, as did many other people, 721 00:41:20.170 --> 00:41:24.650 including Donald Trump. Stop asking me questions. Trump did it too. Yeah, 722 00:41:24.690 --> 00:41:27.030 we'll get to that. Right now we're talking about you 723 00:41:28.139 --> 00:41:33.059 and your brain-dead-ass husband. Perry, understood, understood. Well, I don't 724 00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:35.559 know about that last one, but did you ever discuss 725 00:41:35.659 --> 00:41:39.199 the fact that anyone or any organization that your husband's 726 00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:42.280 name appeared on the flight logs? Clinton, I don't recall. 727 00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:44.929 I mean, I've talked about it with my lawyers. and 728 00:41:45.070 --> 00:41:50.110 others assisting in my preparation, but I can't recall specifics. Question, 729 00:41:50.309 --> 00:41:52.530 are you aware of trips made by your husband on 730 00:41:52.590 --> 00:41:56.969 Jeffrey Epstein's numerous helicopters, whether piloted by Glenn Maxwell or 731 00:41:57.030 --> 00:42:04.070 anyone else? Lawyer jumps in, objection, states facts, not in evidence. Answer, 732 00:42:04.139 --> 00:42:08.800 I've never heard that. Question, are you aware of the allegation? Answer, no, 733 00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:12.280 I was not. Question, the allegation does exist in the record. 734 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:16.309 Is that something you're curious about? Madam Secretary? Answer, I 735 00:42:16.349 --> 00:42:19.969 have no awareness of it. Perry, questions are complete. Thank you, ma'am. 736 00:42:20.989 --> 00:42:28.550 Next person up doing the

questioning, Lauren Boebert from Colorado. Question, Ms. Clinton, 737 00:42:28.730 --> 00:42:31.679 Madam Secretary, while we sat on the record today, are 738 00:42:31.699 --> 00:42:35.429 you under oath? Answer, I am. Question, okay, have you 739 00:42:35.469 --> 00:42:39.699 ever lied while being under oath? Answer, I have not. Question, 740 00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:44.260 have you ever lied in a deposition? Answer, I have not. Question, okay, 741 00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:47.940 thank you. Have you ever transmitted any information to Epstein 742 00:42:48.219 --> 00:42:51.079 or Glenn Maxwell about the United States government? Answer, I 743 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:54.869 have not. Question, as has been mentioned many times here today, 744 00:42:55.329 --> 00:42:58.590 Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's plane at least 26 times, 745 00:42:59.030 --> 00:43:04.190 multiple international trips from 2002 to 2003, often with Maxwell. 746 00:43:05.449 --> 00:43:07.769 When and how did you first learn of these trips 747 00:43:08.150 --> 00:43:10.380 and did you discuss them or review them with him 748 00:43:10.409 --> 00:43:14.260 prior to taking the trips? Lawyer jumps in. It's a 749 00:43:14.300 --> 00:43:17.070 compound question. I'm going to object to the latter part 750 00:43:17.110 --> 00:43:20.389 of it. Lauren Boebert, sure. An instructor not to answer 751 00:43:20.429 --> 00:43:23.730 on the grounds. And to this, Boebert cuts him off. 752 00:43:24.570 --> 00:43:27.130 When and how did you learn of these trips? Of 753 00:43:27.190 --> 00:43:30.409 these trips? Clinton, I don't recall how I learned about them. 754 00:43:31.090 --> 00:43:32.579 I knew that he was traveling on a number of 755 00:43:32.619 --> 00:43:35.380 different planes owned by a number of different people. And 756 00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:39.119 I don't recollect having conversations about the planes. We talked 757 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.619 about the work. We talked about the meetings that he had. 758 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.139 We talked about his efforts to try to persuade countries 759 00:43:45.179 --> 00:43:49.869 to invest in low-cost aid trucks. That's what we talked about. Question, 760 00:43:49.909 --> 00:43:53.090 did you discuss who he'd be traveling with? Answer, I 761 00:43:53.130 --> 00:43:56.769 did not. I don't have any recollection of that. Question, Ms. Clinton, 762 00:43:57.090 --> 00:43:59.070 when did you find out that your husband was spending 763 00:43:59.130 --> 00:44:03.210 time extensively with a registered sex offender? Clinton, he did not. 764 00:44:03.550 --> 00:44:07.989 Not after. Boebert, okay. Clinton, he was convicted years after 765 00:44:08.030 --> 00:44:12.199 Bill stopped having any relationship. Question, Were there any activities 766 00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.420 that raised a red flag to think that he could 767 00:44:14.460 --> 00:44:17.809 be charged of sex crimes during the time that Clinton, 768 00:44:18.250 --> 00:44:21.949 lawyer jumps in, are you asking if she has awareness? Boebert, yes. 769 00:44:22.469 --> 00:44:27.090 Clinton of Jeffrey Epstein, Boebert. Of any red flags being 770 00:44:27.130 --> 00:44:29.880 brought to your awareness, to your family's awareness, while your 771 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:33.440 husband was spending time with Jeffrey Epstein? Answer, I have 772 00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:36.880 no recollection of anyone bringing any red flags to me. Question, 773 00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.619 so Have any of the victims of Epstein or Maxwell 774 00:44:39.699 --> 00:44:42.559 ever reached out to you in any way? Clinton, I 775 00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:46.179 don't recall that. Question, you don't recall any reason a 776 00:44:46.219 --> 00:44:48.420 victim may have reached out to you or your counsel? 777 00:44:49.900 --> 00:44:52.400 Lawyer jumps in, excuse me, the question's asked and answered. 778 00:44:53.099 --> 00:44:55.969 Lauren Boebert, I asked any. Lawyer jumps in and cuts 779 00:44:55.989 --> 00:44:58.570 her off, whether or not any victim reached out to her, 780 00:44:58.929 --> 00:45:01.849 and she said she didn't have any awareness of that. Boebert, 781 00:45:01.989 --> 00:45:05.269 moving on. Ms. Clinton, are you aware of anyone ever 782 00:45:05.309 --> 00:45:08.409 telling your husband... that they had damaging information about him 783 00:45:08.690 --> 00:45:12.460 that they would release? Answer, I have no awareness of that. Question, 784 00:45:12.739 --> 00:45:15.079 did Epstein ever ask you or Mr. Clinton for any 785 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.519 favors of any kind? Answer, I never talked to Jeffrey Epstein. Question, 786 00:45:19.539 --> 00:45:22.380 did Maxwell ever ask you or Mr. Clinton for any 787 00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:26.929 favors of any kind? Answer, she did not ask me. Question, 788 00:45:26.949 --> 00:45:29.730 did Epstein have any connection to her association with the 789 00:45:29.750 --> 00:45:33.429 Clinton Foundation? Answer, there has been the allegation that he did. 790 00:45:33.820 --> 00:45:36.380 but I don't have any factual basis for knowing one 791 00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:40.579 way or the other. Question, okay. And as we discussed today, 792 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:44.880 the small amount donated historically and the $ 20, 000 to your campaign, 793 00:45:45.380 --> 00:45:49.289 the 1999 Senate campaign. Lawyer jumps in, excuse me, could 794 00:45:49.329 --> 00:45:51.449 you stay for the record? It was not the campaign, 795 00:45:51.829 --> 00:45:54.590 so if you wouldn't mind just stating the fact. Bover 796 00:45:54.610 --> 00:45:56.730 jumps in, $ 200, 000 or $ 20, 000 to Hillary's 1999 Senate campaign. Clinton, no. Lawyer, 797 00:45:56.989 --> 00:46:05.179 that's inaccurate. No, it was a joint, Hillary says, a 798 00:46:05.219 --> 00:46:10.460 joint state campaign. Boebert, joint campaign. Okay, sure. Okay, so 799 00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:14.119 we've talked about those connections. In past public statements, as 800

00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:18.469 in 2017 speeches and interviews, you described Pizzagate as a 801 00:46:18.510 --> 00:46:21.929 baseless conspiracy theory, alleging you and others ran a child 802 00:46:21.949 --> 00:46:26.090 sex trafficking ring from a Washington pizzeria basement. Have you 803 00:46:26.150 --> 00:46:28.960 reviewed any of the 2025-2026 Epstein files that were released? 804 00:46:31.219 --> 00:46:34.760 that you believe reference or relate to those specific 2016 805 00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:39.119 claims regarding the Podesta emails, comment Ping Pong Pizza used 806 00:46:39.260 --> 00:46:44.159 as code possibly? Lawyer jumps in. You're asking her about 807 00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:49.010 whether she's reviewed emails, Boebert, yes, in the Epstein files. Lawyer, 808 00:46:49.289 --> 00:46:53.130 which relate to the wacky Pizzagate scam? Boebert, you could 809 00:46:53.150 --> 00:46:55.989 characterize it however you want. I just would like to 810 00:46:56.030 --> 00:46:58.789 know if she was familiar with any of them. Lawyer, 811 00:46:58.829 --> 00:47:01.610 excuse me, your question is about whether or not she 812 00:47:01.650 --> 00:47:05.590 has reviewed any emails in the Epstein release files about Pizzagate? 813 00:47:06.190 --> 00:47:10.119 Lauren Boebert, correct. Hillary Clinton, Pizzagate was totally made up. 814 00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:13.099 It was an outrageous allegation that ended up hurting a 815 00:47:13.139 --> 00:47:15.619 number of people that caused a deranged young man to 816 00:47:15.659 --> 00:47:18.039 show up with an assault rifle and shoot up a 817 00:47:18.059 --> 00:47:22.699 local pizzeria. I can't believe you're even referencing it. Boebert, 818 00:47:22.860 --> 00:47:26.090 there are no connections to the language. Hillary Clinton, well 819 00:47:26.150 --> 00:47:29.630 QAnon people believe there are. Lauren Boebert, I don't know 820 00:47:29.670 --> 00:47:32.809 what QAnon people believe. Hillary Clinton, have at it, have 821 00:47:32.889 --> 00:47:36.789 at it. Question, but you've accused certain parties, and I 822 00:47:36.849 --> 00:47:40.960 think even right now today, of promoting or slow-walking information 823 00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:44.619 in ways that fuels conspiracies. In your view, did any 824 00:47:44.699 --> 00:47:50.679 Epstein-Maxwell-related investigation or file handling pre- or post-2019 contribute to 825 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.820 intersect with the spread of Pizzagate-style theories about Democratic figures? 826 00:47:55.469 --> 00:47:59.400 Hillary Clinton, I have no way of answering that. Lawyer 827 00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:03.309 jumps in, calls for speculation. Boebert, have you or your 828 00:48:03.349 --> 00:48:08.230 representatives identified any Epstein file content that's been misinterpreted online 829 00:48:08.289 --> 00:48:11.269 to revive those claims? And what steps, if any, have 830 00:48:11.309 --> 00:48:16.059 you taken to clarify? Lawyer, again, object to the grounds 831 00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:20.480 of speculation. Boebert, I think that is all very reasonable. Clinton, well, 832 00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:23.340 first of all, I don't follow the crazy conspiracy stories 833 00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:26.610 that are online. I regret that anybody does. I find 834 00:48:26.659 --> 00:48:29.869 it quite sad, but also disturbing, that people would believe 835 00:48:30.210 --> 00:48:33.389 some of what is put forth like Pizzagate. So I 836 00:48:33.429 --> 00:48:36.889 have taken no steps to review anything that might. Lauren Boebert, 837 00:48:37.110 --> 00:48:44.519 do you think pizza, Clinton, have any connection to something? Boebert, sure. Clinton, 838 00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:50.559 which is totally bogus. Boebert, John Podesta, your 2016 campaign chair, 839 00:48:51.059 --> 00:48:54.619 appears in some Epstein file context, social overlaps, or mentions. 840 00:48:55.179 --> 00:48:58.280 Were you aware of any of the Podesta-related communication in 841 00:48:58.300 --> 00:49:01.539 the release files? Lawyer, can you please provide her examples 842 00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:03.610 or the evidence that you would like us to review 843 00:49:03.949 --> 00:49:06.369 or the exhibits that reflect that in order for her 844 00:49:06.409 --> 00:49:08.829 to be able to do that? Answer, I can get 845 00:49:08.849 --> 00:49:12.929 some exhibits. I'm pausing these questions in the meantime. All right, folks, 846 00:49:12.949 --> 00:49:14.469 we're going to wrap up right here. And in the 847 00:49:14.530 --> 00:49:16.449 next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick 848 00:49:16.570 --> 00:49:20.239 up where we left off. All the information that goes 849 00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:23.199 with this episode can be found in the description box.