התמלול המלא של Indianapolis Colts: Will Jonathan Taylor and Josh Downs Be Dealt as Trade Deadline Looms?

they put up a front or they act a certain way to try to get their way. 02:01.359 --> 02:08.843 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember going to training camp in 2024 when Jonathan Taylor was walking around the facility. 02:09.803 --> 02:11.944 [SPEAKER_00]: He looked, no, maybe it was 2023. 02:12.104 --> 02:12.864 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember it was the 02:15.365 --> 02:22.667 [SPEAKER_00]: Jonathan Taylor is just walking around looking like he just lost his puppy, wearing a hood, has frown on his face. 02:23.487 --> 02:26.148 [SPEAKER_00]: All during the, is he going to get traded? 02:26.228 --> 02:27.308 [SPEAKER_00]: Is he going to get dealt away? 02:27.328 --> 02:29.128 [SPEAKER_00]: And of course, the cult then gave him a deal. 02:29.428 --> 02:32.469 [SPEAKER_00]: The dolphins were the top team to apparently trade for Taylor. 02:33.169 --> 02:40.411 [SPEAKER_00]: Not saying that Josh Downs' comments aren't 100% his own thoughts and his own emotions and everything that he's putting into things. 02:40.891 --> 02:42.372 [SPEAKER_00]: But you never know, but yeah, I mean, 02:44.632 --> 02:48.576 [SPEAKER_00]: If one of these two guys needs to get moved, it's without question Josh Downs, but thank you so much. 02:48.876 --> 02:50.097 [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you joining in here. 02:50.358 --> 02:53.140 [SPEAKER_00]: Tony Pilate, Terry says, Downs needs to go. 02:53.540 --> 02:58.004 [SPEAKER_00]: Nathan Command, he said, I wish we would trade Daniel Jones. 02:59.166 --> 03:02.428 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know what, Nathan, I'm going to get to that later. 03:02.729 --> 03:06.652 [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I'm going to get to some reasons that I think that they're not going to trade Daniel Jones. 03:07.433 --> 03:07.833 [SPEAKER_00]: But guys, 03:08.750 --> 03:10.212 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for joining in. 03:10.232 --> 03:13.717 [SPEAKER_00]: And as as you guys do pilot, please throw in comments. 03:13.737 --> 03:16.340 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk all things trade deadline. 03:16.741 --> 03:17.662 [SPEAKER_00]: All things cults. 03:18.022 --> 03:21.948 [SPEAKER_00]: What are they going to be doing around, you know, around 4 PM tomorrow. 03:22.068 --> 03:23.770 [SPEAKER_00]: I do know that, you know, 03:24.090 --> 03:25.531 [SPEAKER_00]: The colds are one of those teams. 03:25.731 --> 03:29.213 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, even I don't even think it matters that Chris Ballard was the GM. 03:29.253 --> 03:41.280 [SPEAKER_00]: I just think this is the colds themselves and other NFL teams do it, but they might wait until 345 PM right when that deadline is like less than 30 minutes away from hitting to make a deal. 03:41.400 --> 03:47.544 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you guys are are chomping at the bit to see a deal or if you're like, oh, why is it taken so long? 03:52.707 --> 04:02.574 [SPEAKER_00]: They're super star the best player on their team and an up-and-coming possible future, you know, top slot receiver like Josh downstairs I'm just going to let those guys go

with us in compensation, right? 04:02.934 --> 04:07.217 [SPEAKER_00]: So, but we're going to go ahead and just dive right into, we actually have a couple more comments here. 04:07.617 --> 04:08.678 [SPEAKER_00]: Matrix has you. 04:09.018 --> 04:10.800 [SPEAKER_00]: Colts have made bad trades. 04:10.840 --> 04:12.201 [SPEAKER_00]: Other teams have made bad trades. 04:12.221 --> 04:16.544 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's hope we're on the good side of receiving a good trade tomorrow. 04:16.604 --> 04:17.724 [SPEAKER_00]: Someone over pay us. 04:18.145 --> 04:19.186 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the thing, Matrix. 04:20.310 --> 04:28.497 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be really interesting to see how things pan out because who knows how, who knows how this is going to pan out. 04:28.557 --> 04:38.585 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's one of those things where you're looking at the entire, you're looking at the entire presentation of these trades and there's a chance that cults don't do anything. 04:38.845 --> 04:46.531 [SPEAKER_00]: And I know that that's not what fans want to hear, but there is a, there is a chance they do absolutely nothing and it's going to be all about two things. 04:50.763 --> 04:57.305 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess in relation to the package that they've been offered, do they see these guys being a part of this rebuild? 04:57.325 --> 05:03.587 [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's absolutely happening 100% you traded away Quentin, you traded away DeForce Buckner, you're done. 05:03.687 --> 05:04.667 [SPEAKER_00]: You're done for this year. 05:05.187 --> 05:08.929 [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, you still want to win, but they can't, they can't get it done, they can't beat anybody. 05:09.049 --> 05:16.471 [SPEAKER_00]: So, but we'll see, it's definitely going to take, I think an overpay, I do think Jonathan Taylor is absolutely worth the first round kick though. 05:16.751 --> 05:18.151 [SPEAKER_00]: That's great, I think down is gone, 05:21.334 --> 05:22.735 [SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's to be decided. 05:23.455 --> 05:34.140 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll have to see crazy things happen as, as the deadlines approach, former co-hosts of this show, Andrew Moore always used to say that deadlines spur action. 05:34.580 --> 05:35.241 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know what? 05:36.241 --> 05:37.182 [SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely believe that. 05:37.202 --> 05:42.284 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think the culture doing anything until like the last two hours before, you know, the trade deadline hits. 05:42.564 --> 05:47.727 [SPEAKER_00]: So, Tree Civil Assurance and the football gods were in our favor and we seemed to piss it away 05:48.793 --> 05:54.680 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure what you mean by that, Teresa, appreciate you joining, but I don't know. 05:54.700 --> 05:57.443 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what that means exactly. 05:58.164 --> 06:04.792 [SPEAKER_00]: The colds just simply haven't been given packages that they feel like are good enough to count, you know, are good enough compensation to give away.

06:05.673 --> 06:07.033 [SPEAKER_00]: arguably their top-wide receiver. 06:07.114 --> 06:13.656 [SPEAKER_00]: I think even when down's has his head in the game and even when peers is on the field, that is their best overall receiver. 06:13.696 --> 06:23.859 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh downs is literally their most talented receiver if it comes to route running, if it comes to quick wins, if it comes to separation, outside of the deep ball, 06:25.133 --> 06:28.975 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, even hands, Josh Downs is incredible. 06:29.615 --> 06:31.656 [SPEAKER_00]: And you've seen his mentality drop off. 06:31.716 --> 06:33.477 [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll have to see what happens. 06:33.537 --> 06:36.458 [SPEAKER_00]: But guys, as we get into this, we're just gonna jump right into it. 06:36.498 --> 06:39.519 [SPEAKER_00]: So the Indianapolis cool type of big decisions ahead of the trade deadline. 06:39.539 --> 06:41.740 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, we're talking about Josh Downs. 06:41.780 --> 06:48.583 [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's talking about Jonathan Taylor, but what people are missing is that this entire freaking roster is up for a trade. 06:48.704 --> 06:54.046 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when you go into, when you officially ship away, 06:55.327 --> 07:00.575 [SPEAKER_00]: arguably you're a top I mean it's it's literally Quentin Nelson and Jonathan Taylor. 07:00.595 --> 07:06.884 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Taylor's the top offensive piece But Quentin Nelson was the second best right you traded him away. 07:07.244 --> 07:10.309 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, then you traded away to for a spuckner who 07:11.330 --> 07:14.911 [SPEAKER_00]: is probably your best defense player without question. 07:15.292 --> 07:18.353 [SPEAKER_00]: I know you got sauce gardener, but that is your best defensive player. 07:18.733 --> 07:31.497 [SPEAKER_00]: So the coast didn't officially say no one says, we're rebuilding, but I really think that with what the coast have done without question they kind of did as official of an announcement that they're rebuilding as you can. 07:31.878 --> 07:33.538 [SPEAKER_00]: But that means everybody's on the table. 07:33.898 --> 07:36.439 [SPEAKER_00]: That means I guess outside of, I'll 07:38.700 --> 07:43.822 [SPEAKER_00]: outside of Jaylen Farmer, you know, who they just put in is their Clinton Nelson replacement. 07:44.302 --> 07:51.464 [SPEAKER_00]: I think outside of a guy maybe like Bernard Reimann, who is, you know, just got, he just got a contract last season. 07:52.464 --> 07:57.826 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a guy like, I would say CJ Allen, obviously, your rookies are completely off the table. 07:58.186 --> 08:02.431 [SPEAKER_00]: guy like Leia to, you're probably still trying to figure out what he's going to give you. 08:02.471 --> 08:04.092 [SPEAKER_00]: He had a good game against the Cowboys. 08:04.453 --> 08:06.074 [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously finally showed the hell up. 08:06.515 --> 08:08.156 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's a guy that's probably off the table. 08:08.237 --> 08:09.378 [SPEAKER_00]: Pierce is off the table. 08:09.458 --> 08:10.379 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll also he's hurt. 08:10.759 --> 08:12.181 [SPEAKER_00]: Tyler Warrens off the table. 08:12.561 --> 08:15.264 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's certain guys on the roster that are off the table. 08:16.179 --> 08:21.422 [SPEAKER_00]: But guys like Chauveri's word, it doesn't matter to cap it, by the way, it doesn't matter to cap it necessarily. 08:21.883 --> 08:25.005 [SPEAKER_00]: It's what you're getting as first trade compensation. 08:25.585 --> 08:29.327 [SPEAKER_00]: That means that any of the guys that I didn't mention, there's probably a few I'm missing. 08:29.888 --> 08:33.850 [SPEAKER_00]: They're up for a trade, who knows who the cults are gonna trade. 08:33.870 --> 08:39.634 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that Josh Downs and Jonathan Taylor have taken over the headlines, but guys, anybody can be dealt away. 08:40.194 --> 08:58.482 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, outside of rookies and the guys that just mentioned, you're like, second your players that are future pillars of this team, a guy like Warren, absolutely, you're not giving him away, but guys also like, can't buy them, okay, maybe keen and Alan on a one-year deal, maybe he can be traded away. 08:58.783 --> 09:03.745 [SPEAKER_00]: There's there's so many things that are coming that go into a rebuild. 09:04.305 --> 09:11.954 [SPEAKER_00]: and trading away players, nobody's safe unless you are absolutely undisputed a piece of the rebuild. 09:12.094 --> 09:13.356 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the guys I just mentioned. 09:13.436 --> 09:17.220 [SPEAKER_00]: So, but before we even jump into it, holy Toledo, we got a bunch of comments here. 09:18.977 --> 09:37.400 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we got, we got, we got, well, that's, again, you know, Nathan, I appreciate your comment about Dallas not wanting to be here, but Taylor, like I said, just a few years ago, Jonathan Taylor was walking around training camp with a hood on, refused to do the drills and refused to practice. 09:37.700 --> 09:42.101 [SPEAKER_00]: He was walking around like he lost his puppy, like he just lost his house and went 09:47.382 --> 09:51.889 [SPEAKER_00]: tweeting, tweeting, tweeting, tweeting, tweeting and Jonathan Taylor got an extension. 09:52.449 --> 09:52.630 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 09:53.090 --> 09:56.175 [SPEAKER_00]: He got that contract and everyone was like he's going to get treated. 09:56.596 --> 09:57.277 [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't did it. 09:57.817 --> 09:58.078 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 09:58.378 --> 10:02.204 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying that Josh downs isn't completely genuine in how he feels. 10:02.504 --> 10:04.845 [SPEAKER_00]: but you can rule absolutely nothing out. 10:04.926 --> 10:15.912 [SPEAKER_00]: These guys, if they want better money, if they want an extension, if they truly do want out, you never know until it happens or if it doesn't happen and that deadline hits. 10:16.212 --> 10:18.033 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Downs could be playing everybody.

10:18.073 --> 10:20.275 [SPEAKER_00]: His agent could be telling him to do that. 10:20.675 --> 10:28.601 [SPEAKER_00]: You bet your, you bet your bottom dollar that Malki Kahlo was all over Taylor about, hey, looked depressed, looks, looks sad. 10:29.041 --> 10:32.964 [SPEAKER_00]: These guys are always giving a smokescreen, okay, to some degree. 10:33.384 --> 10:37.347 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, like I said, there is the chance that Josh Downs is being completely genuine. 10:37.367 --> 10:41.290 [SPEAKER_00]: He's just sick of this team, wouldn't blame him, but also it's like, this is your job. 10:41.610 --> 10:42.651 [SPEAKER_00]: You're supposed to try to win. 10:43.211 --> 10:46.654 [SPEAKER_00]: But who knows, who knows if he really wants to be here or if he doesn't? 10:47.234 --> 10:52.178 [SPEAKER_00]: I never take that stuff too seriously until the deadline hits or the deal is made. 10:52.899 --> 10:53.439 [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see. 10:53.660 --> 10:54.100 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see. 10:56.182 --> 10:58.684 [SPEAKER_00]: Taylor, the top rumor right now to the Patriots. 10:59.064 --> 11:03.247 [SPEAKER_00]: I would dare say that unless you are the 11:11.202 --> 11:14.064 [SPEAKER_00]: you know, I would even say the Pittsburgh Steel is now with Jalen Warren taking off. 11:14.945 --> 11:16.426 [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody could use Jonathan Taylor. 11:16.646 --> 11:23.991 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the giants were a team that threw an offer on the table and they have came scat about and they still won the Jonathan Taylor clearly. 11:24.051 --> 11:30.216 [SPEAKER_00]: So every team can use the Jonathan Taylor, every team can use the top three, top five, top running back in the NFL. 11:31.897 --> 11:37.681 [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine a Darth Vader legend here, imagine if the cults are done trading in the media, screen fire, 11:40.265 --> 11:43.507 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not about what the media says, really, Darth. 11:43.907 --> 11:58.095 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll tell you, as a member of the media, a lot of times it's what the teams who are shopping the players do or don't do, that affects how other teams that might be interested in a trade view them. 11:58.595 --> 12:01.877 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't really have, I mean, look, in the NFL, I'm just going to say this to you, point blind. 12:02.797 --> 12:06.459 [SPEAKER_00]: Any NFL front office member, coach, trainer, player, 12:10.775 --> 12:12.857 [SPEAKER_00]: They're, they're, they're not doing their job. 12:13.017 --> 12:15.219 [SPEAKER_00]: Like they need to avoid the media. 12:15.439 --> 12:16.941 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we all write stories. 12:17.001 --> 12:19.663 [SPEAKER_00]: We all put, you know, breaking news out there. 12:19.963 --> 12:25.268 [SPEAKER_00]: We all form opinions and put them into articles that the wonderful supporters and fans read. 12:25.909 --> 12:28.551 [SPEAKER_00]: And if I players don't need to be reading that, man, they just don't. 12:28.571 --> 12:29.212 [SPEAKER_00]: And if they are. 12:29.925

--> 12:34.068 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a problem and it almost always affects their play, how they view things. 12:34.789 --> 12:41.414 [SPEAKER_00]: You shouldn't be, if you're within an NFL organization of any position, you should not be focusing on the media. 12:41.434 --> 12:43.516 [SPEAKER_00]: So the media is not gonna be what's gonna affect that. 12:43.896 --> 12:47.139 [SPEAKER_00]: It's what the cults do or don't do, that's gonna affect that. 12:47.199 --> 12:48.900 [SPEAKER_00]: But thank you so much, man. 12:49.020 --> 12:51.042 [SPEAKER_00]: As always, I appreciate the hell out of you for joining. 12:51.342 --> 12:53.163 [SPEAKER_00]: Isaiah Davis, the roster is good. 12:53.203 --> 12:55.085 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just Shane and Daniel Jones is trash. 12:55.545 --> 12:56.526 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely not. 12:56.666 --> 12:57.427 [SPEAKER_00]: The roster is, 12:58.007 --> 12:58.608 [SPEAKER_00]: not good. 12:58.648 --> 13:01.331 [SPEAKER_00]: They have one of the worst wide receiver cores in the NFL right now. 13:01.772 --> 13:05.457 [SPEAKER_00]: Even if you put out a pierce out there, it's not really doing many favors. 13:06.037 --> 13:08.240 [SPEAKER_00]: The offensive line just lost Quentin Nelson. 13:08.260 --> 13:10.463 [SPEAKER_00]: You're relying on a fourth round rookie to replace him. 13:10.483 --> 13:12.366 [SPEAKER_00]: I know they have high hopes for Jalen Farmer. 13:13.647 --> 13:16.850 [SPEAKER_00]: The defensive edge where him is arguably the worst in the NFL. 13:17.731 --> 13:31.242 [SPEAKER_00]: Layout to a lot to just decide to show up against the Cowboys and Jalen to be mobile out is starting to actually show out, but they just lost the forest blockner and outside of Adipomo, Adipo R. A. Jerry Tilary and Tim Smith are awful. 13:31.642 --> 13:38.068 [SPEAKER_00]: The linebacker room right now, the starters are not a team Davis, Gayther and Jayla Carlisce, the guys who have been playing NFL football. 13:38.628 --> 13:40.590 [SPEAKER_00]: Isaiah, it is your rookies. 13:41.956 --> 13:47.979 [SPEAKER_00]: uh uh C. J. Allen and Bryce Betcher are, so no, this, this roster is not good. 13:48.239 --> 13:52.922 [SPEAKER_00]: Man, this roster is then bear underperforming. 13:53.322 --> 14:03.087 [SPEAKER_00]: It just so happens that Shane Steiken is struggling with Daniel Jones as his quarterback, but I would dare say any quarterback you put on your center for this offense right now. 14:03.528 --> 14:03.968 [SPEAKER_00]: My guy. 14:04.548 --> 14:05.349 [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to struggle. 14:05.489 --> 14:09.032 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's it's it's it's not it's not an ideal roster. 14:09.052 --> 14:11.895 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just say that it's one of the worst wide receiver cores in the NFL. 14:12.215 --> 14:14.197 [SPEAKER_00]: You factor in Josh downs kind of phoning it in. 14:14.978 --> 14:15.618 [SPEAKER_00]: It's even worse. 14:15.859 --> 14:17.540 [SPEAKER_00]: So, all right, guys. 14:17.560 --> 14:18.621 [SPEAKER_00]: Well,

we're going to go ahead and jump in. 14:18.681 --> 14:19.922 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we got one more new one here. 14:20.463 --> 14:22.625 [SPEAKER_00]: When we got X, we got X lacks. 14:22.685 --> 14:24.006 [SPEAKER_00]: If we don't trade JT now, 14:24.947 --> 14:26.988 [SPEAKER_00]: could trade after season for pick and player. 14:27.428 --> 14:28.028 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair. 14:29.128 --> 14:31.789 [SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is everybody's looking at now, right? 14:31.829 --> 14:41.211 [SPEAKER_00]: And you've got multiple teams who are looking at Jonathan Taylor right now, like he is like he could be a different speaker for their franchise. 14:41.711 --> 14:43.972 [SPEAKER_00]: Why would you, why would you wait? 14:44.452 --> 14:47.833 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you're another NFL team until he's had more tread put on 14:48.613 --> 14:51.854 [SPEAKER_00]: or when he's had his tires, you know, the tread taken off more. 14:52.574 --> 14:59.336 [SPEAKER_00]: He was used an absolute astronomical amount in college and he's been used a lot in the NFL. 14:59.356 --> 15:00.336 [SPEAKER_00]: He's dealt with injuries. 15:00.676 --> 15:05.718 [SPEAKER_00]: So whenever, I maybe he'll pull it there, cannery and he plays at the highest level till he's in his early 30s. 15:06.538 --> 15:06.998 [SPEAKER_00]: who knows. 15:07.098 --> 15:13.803 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're the team right now, I will just say that you want to trade for Taylor now. 15:14.203 --> 15:16.725 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what you're going to get the best Jonathan Taylor. 15:17.285 --> 15:20.147 [SPEAKER_00]: And then Paul Wilson here, Taylor's the same quality player is down. 15:20.167 --> 15:21.348 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not exactly the same thing, Greg. 15:21.708 --> 15:22.429 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely Paul. 15:22.769 --> 15:27.092 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying that downs when it comes to, I mean, he's younger. 15:27.292 --> 15:32.556 [SPEAKER_00]: First off, he is arguably the best white, the best slot receiver in the NFL when he's on. 15:34.446 --> 15:44.470 [SPEAKER_00]: that his route running is a plus, his catch radius is a plus, his contested catchability, being despite being five foot nine, it's a plus. 15:44.850 --> 15:49.512 [SPEAKER_00]: The ability to create separation to be moved, even when they put him on the outside. 15:49.792 --> 15:52.914 [SPEAKER_00]: When he's playing at the highest level palm, he's an absolute nightmare. 15:53.214 --> 15:54.814 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he can run deep routes too. 15:54.834 --> 15:55.995 [SPEAKER_00]: That's just not his thing. 15:56.295 --> 15:57.476 [SPEAKER_00]: His thing is winning quick. 15:58.036 --> 16:03.378 [SPEAKER_00]: And when he's got his head in the game, oh, I mean, he's a fantastic football player. 16:03.698 --> 16:05.179 [SPEAKER_00]: of course they're not the same. 16:05.659 --> 16:16.046 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying that running backs don't last as long as why receivers do in the NFL, especially when they've had the usage that Jonathan Taylor has, it's just that Jonathan Taylor is a Hall of Fame level player, okay? 16:16.286 --> 16:18.747 [SPEAKER_00]: But how many more years are you going to get out of that, right? 16:19.148 --> 16:24.851 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying that Josh Downs probably has six seven more high level years if he can just get his head in the game. 16:25.131 --> 16:25.952 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what happens. 16:25.992 --> 16:27.673 [SPEAKER_00]: It's all going to depend on 16:28.257 --> 16:38.840 [SPEAKER_00]: what the culture offered and clearly there's been offers, it's just clearly the cults have not been happy with all of them, but we're gonna go ahead and jump right into this and actually I'll highlight this comment too. 16:39.140 --> 16:41.081 [SPEAKER_00]: He really does have zero leverage right now. 16:41.341 --> 16:42.021 [SPEAKER_00]: He really does. 16:42.841 --> 16:54.285 [SPEAKER_00]: That's 100% fact Paul, especially after what you said about, you wanna out, you wanna try, when you give a trader quest and then you show out the way that he did against the cowboys, 16:55.153 --> 16:58.334 [SPEAKER_00]: I just really hurt your your your trade stock, but we're going to jump into it. 16:58.614 --> 17:00.014 [SPEAKER_00]: I just love talking to the fans man. 17:00.034 --> 17:00.995 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys so much. 17:01.255 --> 17:02.775 [SPEAKER_00]: You guys distract me in the best way. 17:02.895 --> 17:03.996 [SPEAKER_00]: Keep the comments coming. 17:04.336 --> 17:06.996 [SPEAKER_00]: I am all about talking to you guys all damn day. 17:07.417 --> 17:08.977 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to start with Josh. 17:09.277 --> 17:14.098 [SPEAKER_00]: So he has the highest probability of getting moved. 17:14.639 --> 17:16.039 [SPEAKER_00]: We're just going to jump out to it. 17:16.644 --> 17:23.747 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, now the thing is, okay, I am going to present to you guys some interesting statistics. 17:24.488 --> 17:33.172 [SPEAKER_00]: So, Josh Downs, I believe it was just a few weeks ago requested a trade. 17:33.572 --> 17:39.795 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, Josh Downs obviously has not shown out these last two games, okay. 17:40.415 --> 17:42.637 [SPEAKER_00]: when you look at his game metrics. 17:42.717 --> 17:44.778 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're talking back to the Baltimore game. 17:45.139 --> 17:54.566 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's his receptions followed by his receiving yards and he did he just scored his first touchdown, which was a garbage time touchdown against the Jaguars, right? 17:55.026 --> 18:00.530 [SPEAKER_00]: But he had two catches for 37, seven catches for 72, five catches for 77. 18:00.890 --> 18:02.592 [SPEAKER_00]: Then he had two games of three catches. 18:03.490 --> 18:10.165 [SPEAKER_00]: for a total of 63 yards, four catches for 40, two for 18 against Minnesota, which they have an elite defense. 18:11.523 --> 18:16.545 [SPEAKER_00]: But then you've got four catches for only 23 yards in a game where the Colts were getting destroyed. 18:16.965

--> 18:19.146 [SPEAKER_00]: So the Jaguires pulled back their defense. 18:19.746 --> 18:25.508 [SPEAKER_00]: And when they scored that one touchdown, it didn't even matter and Jacksonville probably didn't care. 18:26.008 --> 18:28.189 [SPEAKER_00]: But he had four catches for only 23 yards. 18:28.469 --> 18:34.391 [SPEAKER_00]: He was targeted six times against the Cowboys with three catches for 24 yards in a long of nine. 18:35.031 --> 18:35.351 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 18:36.581 --> 18:44.245 [SPEAKER_00]: Ever since the trade request, Josh Downs had an absolutely brutal play on a reverse that was a bad play calling. 18:44.265 --> 18:48.867 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, Taylor didn't really help against Jacksonville by tossing the ball up, putting his fallen down. 18:49.407 --> 18:53.430 [SPEAKER_00]: But Josh Downs clearly muffled the reverse. 18:54.530 --> 19:01.073 [SPEAKER_00]: Ball hits the dirt and he did one of the most cardinal sins that you can do in any level of football. 19:07.588 --> 19:12.970 [SPEAKER_00]: He saw the ball on the ground and pulled a Super Bowl 50 Cam Newton, which pisses me off. 19:13.930 --> 19:22.633 [SPEAKER_00]: Look right at the ball and you can see him physically go to jump on it and then see that other bigger players are falling on it and he jumps away. 19:23.533 --> 19:27.174 [SPEAKER_00]: He could have ball, he could have fell on the football. 19:28.290 --> 19:30.251 [SPEAKER_00]: That is a disgusting play. 19:30.852 --> 19:33.573 [SPEAKER_00]: There is, there are a few plays in football. 19:34.154 --> 19:37.576 [SPEAKER_00]: Outside of P we level, but none more than the NFL. 19:38.096 --> 19:45.321 [SPEAKER_00]: There are a few plays in football where it is more inexcusable to do something than not fallen on a fumble. 19:45.801 --> 19:55.428 [SPEAKER_00]: And you see the camera work and you can see that you had the opportunity, you were the first one to it and you didn't take the opportunity to jump on the football for your team. 19:55.968 --> 20:03.092 [SPEAKER_00]: that you're still contractually obligated to fight for, help win, and play for, and you decided not to jump on the football. 20:03.812 --> 20:08.354 [SPEAKER_00]: That is clearly an indication that you're not willing to give the effort. 20:08.455 --> 20:13.537 [SPEAKER_00]: So that was the first thing that really drove me crazy about Josh down since the trade request. 20:13.897 --> 20:22.482 [SPEAKER_00]: The second thing that drove me crazy is that was just a lack of effort and a lack of of camaraderie coming from this guy playing against the Dallas Cowboys. 20:24.783 --> 20:25.884 [SPEAKER_00]: but who the hell cares? 20:25.924 --> 20:27.586 [SPEAKER_00]: That should increase your competitive edge. 20:27.626 --> 20:32.470 [SPEAKER_00]: That should increase your competitive nature when you're trying to beat your brother, right? 20:32.851 --> 20:36.414 [SPEAKER_00]: Who's regarded as one of the best defense players drafted last year? 20:36.874 --> 20:37.355 [SPEAKER_00]: Or this year? 20:37.395 --> 20:37.855 [SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me. 20:38.556 --> 20:42.800 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Downs had an opportunity to help this team try to get a first down late in the game. 20:43.200 --> 20:48.105 [SPEAKER_00]: drops the pass, I understand that people were like, well, you know, Caleb was was on his legs. 20:48.145 --> 20:49.266 [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't going to get the first down. 20:49.286 --> 20:50.127 [SPEAKER_00]: Who the hell knows? 20:50.567 --> 20:51.649 [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't catch the football. 20:51.949 --> 20:58.696 [SPEAKER_00]: And he looked honestly like he was more interested in not patching the football than actually hauling in a contested catch. 20:58.716 --> 21:00.417 [SPEAKER_00]: He only caught three of six targets. 21:00.858 --> 21:06.363 [SPEAKER_00]: This guy is the best receiver on the team right now outside of maybe Tyler Warren. 21:07.336 --> 21:08.838 [SPEAKER_00]: And you can't rely on him. 21:09.459 --> 21:17.031 [SPEAKER_00]: You can rely more on the corpse of Ian and Alan to be your number one receiver than Josh Downs. 21:17.552 --> 21:22.300 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so pair that with the post game interviews where he just seemed 21:22.760 --> 21:23.741 [SPEAKER_00]: very depleted. 21:23.781 --> 21:26.543 [SPEAKER_00]: You can tell he's not mentally with this team anymore. 21:27.323 --> 21:33.388 [SPEAKER_00]: It could be a, it could be some kind of play to try to get other teams to drive up their price. 21:33.948 --> 21:43.294 [SPEAKER_00]: But other teams that might be interested in you, unless they're absolutely desperate as hell, like the Rams might be right now after Puka Nakua is probably going to get put on IR. 21:44.815 --> 21:58.542 [SPEAKER_00]: Unless you're desperate as hell for wider silver and you just so happen to be a contender or a playoff level team, I would be looking at him like this guy is a windbag. 21:58.982 --> 22:03.304 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not willing to play for his team and the saddest part is not going to get to the comments. 22:03.364 --> 22:06.866 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of comments in here and I'm so happy to address those. 22:07.967 --> 22:10.348 [SPEAKER_00]: But I used to be so much on Josh downsis. 22:11.340 --> 22:12.341 [SPEAKER_00]: bandwagon, man. 22:12.421 --> 22:16.002 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what an incredibly gifted, talented player. 22:16.383 --> 22:19.264 [SPEAKER_00]: He outplays his size by like five inches, man. 22:19.284 --> 22:20.865 [SPEAKER_00]: The guy plays like he's six, too. 22:21.325 --> 22:26.928 [SPEAKER_00]: But he has the speed and the twitch of a really short slot receiver who's at the highest level. 22:27.739 --> 22:36.526 [SPEAKER_00]: But ever since that trader quest, you've just seen, felt, and just, the proof is there that he's not in this game for the Colts. 22:37.006 --> 22:50.517 [SPEAKER_00]: So if there is one player between the two that's gonna get traded, it's gonna be joshed out as if for no other reason,

it's that how can you possibly have that kind of player with that kind of mentality as a part of your rebuild? 22:51.518 --> 22:54.600 [SPEAKER_00]: How can he backtrack after all after two, 22:57.789 --> 23:00.191 [SPEAKER_00]: not even underwhelming, disappointing performances. 23:00.611 --> 23:01.852 [SPEAKER_00]: Effort plays weren't there. 23:02.552 --> 23:09.117 [SPEAKER_00]: Effort, you know, the critical time when you needed them to make a catch, he drops the ball doesn't look like he's entirely into the route. 23:09.717 --> 23:11.979 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just, that's the guy that's gotta go. 23:12.099 --> 23:17.923 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the guy, and it breaks my heart because I thought he'd be a part of the rebuild, you know. 23:18.444 --> 23:20.305 [SPEAKER_00]: But clearly, he doesn't want it. 23:20.685 --> 23:24.308 [SPEAKER_00]: Who knows if it's a play, it could be anything in the NFL you never know. 23:25.468 --> 23:32.791 [SPEAKER_00]: But if we're going based off of like the best gut instinct, it's probably that he wants out and that he is going to be shipped out. 23:32.851 --> 23:35.172 [SPEAKER_00]: So we've got a lot of comments here. 23:35.272 --> 23:45.256 [SPEAKER_00]: Holy cow, let's see here Isaiah, Davis says currently needs to stop listening on the headphones and fire shane. 23:45.936 --> 23:52.199 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let me ask you this Isaiah, if you were the CEO of a billion dollar football team 23:53.437 --> 23:59.142 [SPEAKER_00]: Wouldn't you want to be as plugged in as possible, listening to everything learning as much as you can? 23:59.783 --> 24:08.391 [SPEAKER_00]: Personally, I would clearly know on other NFL owner other than Carlier, say, sets around on the sideline, stands around on the sideline. 24:08.511 --> 24:08.991 [SPEAKER_00]: I love it. 24:09.272 --> 24:10.132 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not even biased. 24:10.493 --> 24:12.014 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that she's so plugged in. 24:12.454 --> 24:14.036 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that she's trying to learn. 24:14.516 --> 24:17.879 [SPEAKER_00]: She's trying to rebuild this team, 24:18.955 --> 24:21.116 [SPEAKER_00]: So why wouldn't she be as plugged in as possible? 24:21.177 --> 24:36.887 [SPEAKER_00]: You need to know the ins, the outs, the exes knows the corners and corners, the top down left, right, you need to know everything, every little detail, there shouldn't be, there shouldn't be a speck of dust that hits the floor of their practice facility without her knowing it. 24:37.327 --> 24:44.676 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, if I'm her, I'm absolutely plugged in because my team had the Peyton Manning era, the Andrew Luck era, and they sucked ever since. 24:44.716 --> 24:47.420 [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't made the playoffs in like five or six years. 24:47.660 --> 24:50.083 [SPEAKER_00]: You haven't won the division in like 12 seasons. 24:50.463 --> 24:52.005 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, personally, 24:52.992 --> 25:10.594 [SPEAKER_00]: I've only been the owner for one year that like the undisputed owner absolutely I'm staying as plugged in as possible and I don't think that's meddling I think that's being prepared and in tune with the football team that you own and everyone in that organization is looking at her right now like what's your next move. 25:11.173 --> 25:17.015 [SPEAKER_00]: You have an interim assistant, you have an interim general manager in Ed Dodds, you've got a coach right now that's falling apart. 25:17.275 --> 25:24.057 [SPEAKER_00]: You've got an entire offensive coaching staff that he brought in that cannot help and you've got Louis and a remote who cannot coach the defense. 25:25.057 --> 25:25.638 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man. 25:26.158 --> 25:27.238 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a good idea. 25:27.338 --> 25:29.319 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a good move by Carlier or say Gordon. 25:31.625 --> 25:37.009 [SPEAKER_00]: I heard the Giants offered the Colts a second round pick for Taylor, but the Colts said in a way we will get to that Paul. 25:38.550 --> 25:40.791 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see, Taylor isn't the same quality players down. 25:40.811 --> 25:41.892 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not exactly the same thing. 25:42.052 --> 25:44.473 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we already, I think we already addressed that. 25:45.134 --> 25:47.195 [SPEAKER_00]: Kelly Rosal will they trade AR? 25:47.255 --> 25:49.737 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be here for the season with Balodgon. 25:51.658 --> 25:57.102 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I just don't, I don't think Richardson's going anywhere. 25:57.442 --> 26:00.764 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he, he requests to trade back in February. 26:02.292 --> 26:08.417 [SPEAKER_00]: Jonathan Taylor and Josh, Jonathan Taylor never requested a trade, and that didn't start picking up till the cold started to suck. 26:09.138 --> 26:11.600 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh towns didn't request a trade until two weeks ago. 26:12.741 --> 26:17.666 [SPEAKER_00]: Those two make more sense to wait until the absolute last second of the trade deadline. 26:18.527 --> 26:23.491 [SPEAKER_00]: Richardson, his trader quest has been out there for like nine months. 26:24.272 --> 26:25.213 [SPEAKER_00]: If it hasn't happened, 26:25.810 --> 26:28.893 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I just cannot imagine it's going to happen. 26:29.333 --> 26:31.415 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they keep him as a backup quarterback. 26:32.496 --> 26:34.217 [SPEAKER_00]: Duelin and Berks should play more well. 26:34.237 --> 26:34.638 [SPEAKER_00]: They are. 26:35.298 --> 26:43.546 [SPEAKER_00]: Ashton Duelin had a ridiculously impressive touch, long touchdown off a screen pass against the cowboys and Berks is getting factored in more. 26:44.086 --> 26:45.607 [SPEAKER_00]: And if Josh downs is dealt away, 26:46.428 --> 26:47.428 [SPEAKER_00]: better about a dollar. 26:48.048 --> 26:49.909 [SPEAKER_00]: The on birx is going to get more playing time. 26:50.649 --> 27:01.912 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, I think Alan might resume more of the slot role, because that's what you've seen

keen now and do a lot of it is in this NFL career, but I mean, the on birx is definitely going to get more looks. 27:02.852 --> 27:06.793 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Ed Dapina fire shan if he doesn't bench Jones in sanity. 27:07.453 --> 27:08.853 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, well, guess what? 27:09.553 --> 27:15.415 [SPEAKER_00]: Ed, he's not, uh, he's just not going to, he's not going to bench Daniel Jones and guess what? 27:16.075 --> 27:17.095 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to get to that later. 27:17.336 --> 27:17.976 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to get to that. 27:18.016 --> 27:21.677 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the dark horse topic that's not even in the title or anything else. 27:22.558 --> 27:24.899 [SPEAKER_00]: But I will definitely get to that because that's an interesting. 27:25.239 --> 27:26.940 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad that you put that comment down there. 27:28.700 --> 27:29.581 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see here. 27:37.988 --> 27:47.090 [SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, the thing is, this is, you know, I know the chargers are winless, I know the dolphins have struggled, but this is the worst team in the NFL guys. 27:47.150 --> 27:55.312 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the, you know, what Chris Ballard did is he set the franchise back a lot of years. 27:56.152 --> 27:57.953 [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I think it was Destin Adams, 27:59.094 --> 28:04.800 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember exactly who mentioned it, but name a team who has a worse outlook for the next five years. 28:05.981 --> 28:07.743 [SPEAKER_00]: Colts don't have a first round or next year. 28:09.946 --> 28:15.852 [SPEAKER_00]: You've officially declared a rebuild, basically not officially, but you're rebuilding. 28:17.529 --> 28:37.237 [SPEAKER_00]: And you absolutely, and not when you lost to the Titans at home, you just got destroyed by Jacksonville, you got destroyed by Pittsburgh, you got destroyed by, you know, the Ravens at the start of the season then you just lost the Dallas when you probably should have won the game. 28:38.227 --> 28:44.911 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, they didn't have George Pickins, CD Lamb had a ridiculous fumble, like the colds just don't win. 28:45.111 --> 28:47.452 [SPEAKER_00]: They almost find ways to lose. 28:48.473 --> 29:00.739 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and the thing about the Jones contract, Paul, I totally agree with you, but the only reason I'll very softly push back is they didn't have a choice, right? 29:01.240 --> 29:04.702 [SPEAKER_00]: Like Daniel Jones played fantastic last year. 29:05.602 --> 29:05.882 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, 29:07.844 --> 29:13.057 [SPEAKER_00]: And Richardson had not shown that he could start and he also couldn't stay healthy. 29:13.997 --> 29:17.620 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's no one else that you can really go after in 2026. 29:17.700 --> 29:24.225 [SPEAKER_00]: So you almost had their choice, but the cults also pigeonholed themselves into that, right? 29:24.986 --> 29:27.728 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have a choice, but the paid annual Jones, that's the thing. 29:27.748 --> 29:29.789

[SPEAKER_00]: And he was requesting more money than they gave him. 29:30.350 --> 29:33.492 [SPEAKER_00]: He wanted more money than two years, 88 mil. 29:34.053 --> 29:39.737 [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, the cults kind of backed themselves into a very stupid corner with that one. 29:40.488 --> 29:48.490 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and we're seeing how it's playing out and the fell defenses is just quickly Daniel Jones was in his first year with Shane Stiken NFL defense has hadn't seen that. 29:49.910 --> 29:59.912 [SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Jones wasn't able to adapt and now you're back to New York giant standard Jones who toss picks when the games on the line that should city at 14 game winning drives at the end of that Cowboys game. 30:00.193 --> 30:00.873 [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't believe that. 30:00.893 --> 30:01.533 [SPEAKER_00]: I was shocked. 30:01.553 --> 30:01.953 [SPEAKER_00]: That was like. 30:03.266 --> 30:09.391 [SPEAKER_00]: Really he's got that many I couldn't believe it because he's just he's not a prime time guy And he's not a clutch guy. 30:09.431 --> 30:10.292 [SPEAKER_00]: He is the opposite. 30:10.552 --> 30:16.236 [SPEAKER_00]: He's an absolute bad He's he's a paper bag when it comes to both of those things, but thank you so much Paul. 30:16.737 --> 30:28.806 [SPEAKER_00]: We got any other comments here Daniel Miller says hey Drake about time and Mr. Podcast John back dude I had some life stuff happened Daniel, but we're back in the fall the fall fold and what 30:29.587 --> 30:48.046 [SPEAKER_00]: What better time to come back than when the cults are falling apart and trade deadlines approaching and you know we're talking about them trading away a very promising young slot receiver and the arguably the best running back this teams have ever seen since Edger and James actually it is the best running back they've seen since Edger and James Marshall fought. 30:49.017 --> 30:52.140 [SPEAKER_00]: By the time it's all set and down here, probably would be the best if not already. 30:52.480 --> 30:58.884 [SPEAKER_00]: It's always up for debate, but thank you so much Daniel, and then We've got Let's see here. 30:59.104 --> 31:01.266 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm making sure we didn't miss any new comments here. 31:02.006 --> 31:03.347 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, all right guys. 31:03.367 --> 31:14.515 [SPEAKER_00]: So now that we've talked about Josh Towns We're definitely gonna get to the the the bell of the ball and that is going to be one Jonathan Taylor 31:17.812 --> 31:21.034 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so here we go, guys, it's JT time. 31:21.174 --> 31:28.018 [SPEAKER_00]: So we already had a few comments that indicated the package, the quotes were offered by the giants. 31:28.499 --> 31:33.142 [SPEAKER_00]: Then we go and pull it up here, I think, oh, wait a second. 31:33.802 --> 31:41.987 [SPEAKER_00]: Hold on, we got a guy that I haven't seen in years and old buddy of mine from the land of Kokomo, Indiana. 31:42.407 --> 31:43.488 [SPEAKER_00]: And that is Mr. Matt. 31:43.838 --> 31:46.320 [SPEAKER_00]: Vicente Perez Matt dude. 31:46.560 --> 31:47.621 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope you're doing well. 31:47.761 --> 31:55.267 [SPEAKER_00]: Hope you love in the dad life It's been a minute since I've seen you dude, but thank you so much for jumping in here AR needs to start machine. 31:55.287 --> 32:01.532 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll never let it happen while he's here because it is an admission that he was wrong I truly think AR wants to be here 32:04.230 --> 32:16.898 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if like him not starting AR is necessarily a personal admission that he was wrong, but I do think that that and I'll actually get to. 32:17.921 --> 32:21.884 [SPEAKER_00]: why I think Shane is keeping Daniel Jones as a start. 32:21.904 --> 32:25.687 [SPEAKER_00]: But I do think Anthony Richardson wants to be here. 32:25.707 --> 32:37.255 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that what initially his agent, I believe it's Derek Jackson, forgive me if I'm wrong on that, but agents aren't exactly the top of mind with what I do. 32:38.176 --> 32:47.901 [SPEAKER_00]: But he I think that he was in the camp that like my clients not getting the the opportunities he deserves my clients been in a toxic atmosphere he's been with the franchise. 32:47.961 --> 32:51.483 [SPEAKER_00]: It's got bad culture trade trade trade trade. 32:51.503 --> 32:55.205 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think that's the biggest reason why anything enriches and wanted out. 32:55.670 --> 32:56.891 [SPEAKER_00]: or wanted out. 32:57.311 --> 33:05.377 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that Shane Steiken right now, I don't even know what he's fighting for, who knows what 2020 7 is going to bring, especially if you can't get a first rounder. 33:05.998 --> 33:12.863 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think at the end of the day, I think that Shane Steiken sees Daniel Jones as the guy who could actually operate his offense, like right? 33:13.223 --> 33:14.684 [SPEAKER_00]: So Anthony Richardson comes in, 33:15.681 --> 33:17.462 [SPEAKER_00]: Chase that I can get tired in 2023. 33:17.762 --> 33:19.603 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you start that year. 33:20.104 --> 33:21.004 [SPEAKER_00]: He plays four games. 33:21.024 --> 33:32.191 [SPEAKER_00]: He does a pretty pretty good job for a guy who has the lack of experience he had running Stichens offense in those four games in 2023 before a guy hurt and gardener mentioned you almost get some of the playoffs. 33:32.271 --> 33:34.493 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a guy who can just operate in offense. 33:34.933 --> 33:36.994 [SPEAKER_00]: Then you've got Anthony Richardson in 2024. 33:37.334 --> 33:39.296 [SPEAKER_00]: He looks absolutely dreadful. 33:39.676 --> 33:41.237 [SPEAKER_00]: He can't operate the offense. 33:41.537 --> 33:42.818 [SPEAKER_00]: Can't complete open passes. 33:43.298 --> 33:48.047 [SPEAKER_00]: can't make pre-play reads the simplest stuff he couldn't operate. 33:48.328 --> 33:51.133 [SPEAKER_00]: He was turning the ball over more than he was scoring touchdowns. 33:51.774

--> 33:52.736 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a disaster. 33:53.176 --> 33:56.042 [SPEAKER_00]: Then Joe Flacco comes in after Richardson gets hurt. 33:57.002 --> 34:01.006 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you've got the whole head tap it, you know, the helmet tap thing, whatever. 34:01.486 --> 34:04.448 [SPEAKER_00]: Black O'Conson and operates the offense better than Richardson did. 34:04.809 --> 34:08.011 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so then 2025 rules around Richardson's healthy. 34:08.532 --> 34:12.215 [SPEAKER_00]: He can't beat Daniel Jones out of the starting position. 34:12.635 --> 34:18.280 [SPEAKER_00]: So, Stecken's looking at Richardson at this point, like, dude, you cannot operate this offense. 34:18.700 --> 34:19.541 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't start. 34:20.622 --> 34:22.864 [SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't even look at how Daniel Jones is playing that. 34:24.048 --> 34:25.529 [SPEAKER_00]: Richardson couldn't beat that guy out. 34:25.770 --> 34:27.791 [SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't beat that guy out. 34:28.292 --> 34:28.612 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 34:28.952 --> 34:31.014 [SPEAKER_00]: I know he played good last year, but that was a surprise. 34:31.094 --> 34:35.277 [SPEAKER_00]: People hadn't seen Daniel Jones in the Shane Psychine offense. 34:35.938 --> 34:39.521 [SPEAKER_00]: Now you're looking at him like, okay Richardson couldn't beat Daniel Jones out. 34:39.541 --> 34:40.162 [SPEAKER_00]: He's the backup. 34:40.182 --> 34:44.105 [SPEAKER_00]: Then he fractures his orbital bone in a freak accident. 34:44.605 --> 34:47.768 [SPEAKER_00]: Then he goes with Philip Rivers total disaster. 34:48.168 --> 34:48.489 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 34:48.849 --> 34:51.271 [SPEAKER_00]: So now you're at this point in the season. 34:51.771 --> 34:52.112 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 34:53.090 --> 35:08.861 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's that Richardson, who knows what's going on behind the scenes, okay, unless you're an insider, which we know a few at SI, but unless you're an insider, you don't know what's going on behind the scenes, and even then, teams aren't going to tell you, hey, Richardson sucks and practice. 35:09.421 --> 35:11.503 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not completing anything, right? 35:12.582 --> 35:15.224 [SPEAKER_00]: Who knows if it's Richardson can't rise to the occasion? 35:15.864 --> 35:26.952 [SPEAKER_00]: Who knows if it's that he just trusts Daniel Jones more and needs a guy who has the IQ to make the pre-snap read, who knows the situation at all? 35:27.352 --> 35:31.375 [SPEAKER_00]: But I do think, genuinely, I don't think it's a personal thing for Shane Steckin. 35:31.795 --> 35:38.140 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that it's he actually thinks that Daniel Jones can run his offense better than Richardson. 35:38.560 --> 35:45.148 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, my argument is Richardson gives you more to work with because he threatens a defense more than Jones ever could. 35:45.648 --> 35:46.629 [SPEAKER_00]: That's my argument. 35:46.710 --> 35:53.117 [SPEAKER_00]: I personally think Richardson should start at

this point, but I also think that Shane Stiken is just a Daniel Jones believer. 35:53.790 --> 36:06.058 [SPEAKER_00]: He saw what he could do last, and he just thinks that all he needs to do is just have a game where he terms the corner, the problem is, all he does is throw a fix, take sacks, and they don't have the weapons to threaten a defense deep right now. 36:06.139 --> 36:08.180 [SPEAKER_00]: So Matt, I appreciate your man. 36:08.200 --> 36:09.101 [SPEAKER_00]: I took some time with you. 36:09.141 --> 36:09.981 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a senior in the wild. 36:10.381 --> 36:12.163 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope you and your family are doing well, my friend. 36:12.543 --> 36:14.724 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so we're going to go ahead and jump into Jonathan Taylor here. 36:14.744 --> 36:14.965 [SPEAKER_00]: So. 36:15.932 --> 36:28.735 [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, the big story is that the cults I believe they were offered a second rounder and a fifth rounder for Jonathan Taylor by the New York Giants and the cults. 36:29.774 --> 36:30.574 [SPEAKER_00]: weren't about it. 36:30.854 --> 36:32.755 [SPEAKER_00]: The giants pulled back the offer. 36:33.355 --> 36:41.598 [SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, you guys got to think, man, this is the most impactful player, one of the most impactful players in your franchise history. 36:42.018 --> 36:45.939 [SPEAKER_00]: So they offered a second and a fifth, but it's been pulled per Jake laser. 36:46.880 --> 36:47.300 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, man, 36:55.397 --> 37:07.947 [SPEAKER_00]: unless they get a 2027 or 2028 burst rounder, especially 2027, because then you could pick your franchise quarterback intentionally, okay? 37:08.207 --> 37:10.709 [SPEAKER_00]: Because other than that, here's the thing. 37:11.130 --> 37:13.232 [SPEAKER_00]: I've mentioned this on this podcast a lot. 37:13.632 --> 37:17.035 [SPEAKER_00]: Jonathan Taylor has an insane amount of, 37:18.408 --> 37:22.211 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, tread on, he doesn't have as much tread on the tires as a lot of running backs. 37:22.532 --> 37:23.393 [SPEAKER_00]: He has been used. 37:23.693 --> 37:27.356 [SPEAKER_00]: He was used in astronomical amount of Wisconsin for three full seasons. 37:28.117 --> 37:33.462 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been used in astronomical amount by the Indianapolis Colts, but here's the thing he's only 27 years old. 37:35.320 --> 37:38.201 [SPEAKER_00]: And the dude is still out there making plays. 37:38.221 --> 37:41.502 [SPEAKER_00]: I understand the Dallas Cowboys game was a massive let down. 37:41.863 --> 37:47.465 [SPEAKER_00]: I understand that he hasn't performed up to his standards the past few weeks. 37:47.825 --> 37:54.848 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got over the last two weeks against the Jags and against Dallas, 21 carries for 69 rushing yards. 37:55.208 --> 37:57.449 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a Scotch over three yards of carry. 37:58.159 --> 38:03.740 [SPEAKER_00]: But guys, the cold still have anybody to threaten them, the threaten a defense deep. 38:04.120 --> 38:07.261 [SPEAKER_00]: So all you've got to do is you know everything is coming short. 38:07.581 --> 38:10.161 [SPEAKER_00]: You know everything is shorter and remit in the past and game. 38:10.441 --> 38:11.402 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not going deep. 38:11.722 --> 38:17.403 [SPEAKER_00]: And anything more than 15 yards is a freaking tall task for this cold's offense. 38:17.743 --> 38:19.923 [SPEAKER_00]: You've got Tyler Warren, who's not a deep threat. 38:20.283 --> 38:23.224 [SPEAKER_00]: You've got, you've got, 38:24.280 --> 38:29.761 [SPEAKER_00]: uh... key to now and who is uh... a short yard of jazzy is a quick win guy Josh down is quick win guy 38:30.610 --> 38:36.791 [SPEAKER_00]: Then you've got Ash to do when, yes, he's a deep threat, but he's not a route running deep threat. 38:37.191 --> 38:43.293 [SPEAKER_00]: He's more of a guy that like he's sent on a seam or a nine, and you hope that he can just beat the coverage. 38:43.973 --> 38:50.114 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, or like he did against the Cowboys, he's got ridiculous burst and insane explosive speed. 38:50.714 --> 38:56.916 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're hoping you can get him on a screen or he can somehow leave a guy in the dust he catches the ball and he's gone for payder. 38:58.216 --> 39:12.207 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what kind of deep threat Ashton doing is, and then Deon Berks, he is that kind of deep threat that can outrun you on a route, but he's also just getting his feet wet in the NFL. 39:13.469 --> 39:16.391 [SPEAKER_00]: So the coats have nobody, okay? 39:16.831 --> 39:20.234 [SPEAKER_00]: And every of every defense is looking at this team right now. 39:20.975 --> 39:24.818 [SPEAKER_00]: When the dolphins play him next week, they're going to be looking at the coats like, okay, 39:29.652 --> 39:32.713 [SPEAKER_00]: You got to go by the threat and you deep, you can't loosen up a defense. 39:32.733 --> 39:33.894 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't make them back off. 39:34.474 --> 39:35.955 [SPEAKER_00]: You're just going to take your linebackers. 39:36.215 --> 39:41.697 [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you're safety's, you're just going to throw them in the box and make sure Jonathan Taylor doesn't move the football. 39:42.117 --> 39:43.018 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so, 39:44.154 --> 39:47.297 [SPEAKER_00]: That's where Jonathan Taylor's lack of production has come from. 39:47.357 --> 39:52.042 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's anything he's doing mentally or as far as preparing. 39:52.462 --> 39:55.845 [SPEAKER_00]: I just think the coast don't have any way to open up the game for him. 39:56.326 --> 39:58.548 [SPEAKER_00]: And so you can only run the ball so many times. 39:58.568 --> 40:01.771 [SPEAKER_00]: And when they played Minnesota, they had Quentin Nelson. 40:02.031 --> 40:04.114 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, they don't have Quentin Nelson anymore. 40:04.134 --> 40:08.398 [SPEAKER_00]: You have a fourth round rookie in jail and farmer that all of a sudden you're like, hey pal. 40:08.778 --> 40:09.599

[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead and go out there. 40:09.619 --> 40:10.740 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know you've been preparing. 40:10.760 --> 40:11.800 [SPEAKER_00]: I know we're real high on you. 40:11.960 --> 40:14.162 [SPEAKER_00]: Tony Sprano Jr. Offence Flying Coach loves you. 40:14.522 --> 40:17.044 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go ahead and get you out there and replace a few trial of favor. 40:18.685 --> 40:21.167 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just Jonathan Taylor has nowhere to go right now. 40:21.387 --> 40:23.669 [SPEAKER_00]: Like in the game, he has nowhere to go. 40:24.149 --> 40:24.430 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 40:24.950 --> 40:28.313 [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think it's a reflection on trade deadline. 40:28.373 --> 40:31.095 [SPEAKER_00]: Taylor didn't request to trade none of that. 40:31.355 --> 40:36.479 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the lack of offensive prowess to culture giving a defense right now. 40:39.315 --> 40:56.049 [SPEAKER_00]: But here's the thing, the the Coltsk and not give this guy away for anything less than a first rounder or a package that amounts to a first round pick you either need to hold your cards. 40:56.973 --> 41:04.235 [SPEAKER_00]: and keep the guy because he'd be one hell of an asset for a rebuild, and in 2028, he's only gonna be 29, okay? 41:04.695 --> 41:22.719 [SPEAKER_00]: So he could still be at a prime level when that next quarterback is drafted and what better friend for a quarterback than to have an all-pro level, Hall of Fame level, franchise leader level running back, like Jonathan Taylor, in the backfield with you. 41:23.770 --> 41:28.133 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, you cannot give away Jonathan Taylor for anything less than a first round package. 41:28.593 --> 41:30.154 [SPEAKER_00]: Either it's a first round pickout, right? 41:30.495 --> 41:41.682 [SPEAKER_00]: Or it's a package that when you put it on paper and you do a little nice little, you know, hunky dory, how you do an equation that an amounts to a first round and you can't give more for anything less than that and if they do, they're stupid. 41:42.042 --> 41:43.343 [SPEAKER_00]: They're, it's malpractice. 41:43.743 --> 41:48.987 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, they have to keep Jonathan Taylor unless they get the amount of compensation 41:49.363 --> 41:56.339 [SPEAKER_00]: that they deserve for a player that's at his level, because the minute he hits a team like New York, then well, they were sent at their offer. 41:56.540 --> 41:57.702 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's say minutes so to get some. 41:58.043 --> 41:59.166 [SPEAKER_00]: Immediately, your offense. 41:59.579 --> 42:01.060 [SPEAKER_00]: go through the roof with their potential. 42:01.320 --> 42:04.403 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's say that Seattle gets him immediately. 42:04.643 --> 42:06.544 [SPEAKER_00]: Your offense goes through the roof with potential. 42:06.884 --> 42:09.426 [SPEAKER_00]: That is how damn good Jonathan Taylor is. 42:09.466 --> 42:15.251 [SPEAKER_00]: You got to get a first round package or pick for this guy, or else you're not doing yourself. 42:15.551 --> 42:17.912 [SPEAKER_00]: Any favors giving him a way. 42:18.373 --> 42:19.954 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to go and jump in here. 42:19.974 --> 42:22.636 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, let's see. 42:24.298 --> 42:24.898 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see here. 42:24.918 --> 42:26.959 [SPEAKER_00]: We've had other so many comments. 42:27.019 --> 42:27.479 [SPEAKER_00]: I love it. 42:27.839 --> 42:28.639 [SPEAKER_00]: I love it, man. 42:30.440 --> 42:32.720 [SPEAKER_00]: Selt downs for peanuts as Matt Perez. 42:33.660 --> 42:34.401 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the thing. 42:34.441 --> 42:44.423 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not healthy NFL works out of the Josh downs once out, but they got to get something out of him or else, you know, I'd say if I'm the coldest right now, I'm just focused on 4 p.m. tomorrow. 42:44.803 --> 42:47.424 [SPEAKER_00]: Easter standard time and whatever happens after that, you can figure it out. 42:47.464 --> 42:47.584 [SPEAKER_00]: But 42:48.287 --> 42:51.810 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say you don't want to play around your roster for a rebuild that doesn't want to play for you. 42:51.950 --> 42:52.891 [SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure. 42:52.971 --> 42:55.373 [SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to do something with dance for sure. 42:57.414 --> 42:58.255 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me see here. 43:00.377 --> 43:01.237 [SPEAKER_00]: There are so many. 43:01.598 --> 43:02.238 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness. 43:02.699 --> 43:04.500 [SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Miller says I would ask for. 43:04.520 --> 43:09.684 [SPEAKER_00]: I would ask for a first a third in a fourth in 2027. 43:11.878 --> 43:20.039 [SPEAKER_00]: and add a fifth, six, and seventh for 2020, and if you add downs to a JT deal, I don't think anybody's gonna do that, man. 43:20.079 --> 43:24.100 [SPEAKER_00]: That's more gaging away your future on winning now. 43:24.600 --> 43:33.342 [SPEAKER_00]: Because if a team trades for Jonathan Taylor, they're ready to put a claim in to make a push for this year or next. 43:34.002 --> 43:37.462 [SPEAKER_00]: So I love that, but that didn't happen. 43:42.038 --> 43:43.019 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me see here. 43:43.099 --> 43:48.485 [SPEAKER_00]: So we got, gosh, you're so many Kelly Russel, would you keep Reggie and Tony Sprano on next year's Staff of Cheney's Not Back? 43:48.866 --> 43:49.467 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely. 43:50.568 --> 43:58.077 [SPEAKER_00]: Reggie Wayne campaigned for Josh Downs, when Chris Ballard was not a fan of drafting smaller receivers. 43:59.020 --> 44:04.741 [SPEAKER_00]: I know I know that everyone feels the way they do right now about downs, but outside of that, Josh Downs has been great. 44:04.941 --> 44:08.002 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been a good addition and Reggie Wayne campaign for him. 44:08.442 --> 44:14.904 [SPEAKER_00]: Add and I Mitchell, I know he just had a blank of a game, but the Chiefs had the New York Jets completely surrounded. 44:14.924 --> 44:18.444 [SPEAKER_00]: They had no chance against the Chiefs and Gino Smith didn't look good.

44:18.784 --> 44:25.986 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, the running game looked like crap, but add and I Mitchell was coming off of a hot game of seven, seven catches for over 140 yards and a touchdown. 44:26.366 --> 44:26.986 [SPEAKER_00]: against the Raiders. 44:27.386 --> 44:28.527 [SPEAKER_00]: Reggie Wayne wanted him. 44:28.907 --> 44:29.447 [SPEAKER_00]: He got him. 44:29.907 --> 44:35.008 [SPEAKER_00]: Reggie Wayne defended Adnan Mitchell and the whole Rams debacle and the Colts traded him away. 44:35.068 --> 44:38.909 [SPEAKER_00]: I still think Adnan Mitchell is going to be a great receiver in this league. 44:39.249 --> 44:42.670 [SPEAKER_00]: He's still like 24 years old, but Reggie Wayne is good. 44:43.110 --> 44:44.790 [SPEAKER_00]: He's good at coaching receivers. 44:45.290 --> 44:47.691 [SPEAKER_00]: He's shown that he is good at coaching receivers. 44:47.971 --> 44:50.372 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not his fault, Alec Pierce got hurt two games in. 44:50.792 --> 44:55.793 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not his fault that the Colts went ahead and gave Alec Pierce a huge contract, even though they knew he was hurt. 44:56.333 --> 45:03.695 [SPEAKER_00]: and how to go on a snap count, you know, a limited snap count against the Ravens, Reggie Wayne should absolutely remain with this team as wide receivers coach. 45:04.035 --> 45:12.977 [SPEAKER_00]: And Tony Spirono Jr. should absolutely remain on this team if Shane's second is canned because he's one of the best coaches of the offensive line in the NFL. 45:13.317 --> 45:15.178 [SPEAKER_00]: Look at what he did with Mac and Solvis. 45:15.638 --> 45:19.799 [SPEAKER_00]: Mac and Solvis went from tackle to starting right guard and he's damn good. 45:20.479 --> 45:25.523 [SPEAKER_00]: Tanner Bordelini last year was one of the best centers in the NFL, fourth round selection. 45:25.843 --> 45:26.484 [SPEAKER_00]: You damn bet. 45:26.784 --> 45:30.767 [SPEAKER_00]: You're damn sure that Tony Sprano Jr. campaign to get him on the squad. 45:31.127 --> 45:34.450 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you have a guy like Jalen Travis, fourth rounder. 45:34.750 --> 45:36.351 [SPEAKER_00]: Now he's your starting right tackle. 45:36.672 --> 45:37.412 [SPEAKER_00]: He's done well. 45:37.733 --> 45:42.917 [SPEAKER_00]: Then you got a guy like Jalen Farmer, who is now your Quentin Nelson replacement. 45:43.577 --> 45:50.306 [SPEAKER_00]: If they fire Shane Steiken and they don't retain it, I want them to retain Reggie, but especially Tony Sprano Jr. 45:52.127 --> 45:52.767 [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy. 45:52.908 --> 46:01.113 [SPEAKER_00]: So, yes, I don't know about Reggie, I think they will if they fire Shane, but Tony Sprunger Jr. is an absolute requirement. 46:01.233 --> 46:10.699 [SPEAKER_00]: You have to keep him on the team because you win in the trenches and that dude has shown he is an elite offensive line coach so they should absolutely retain him. 46:11.260 --> 46:14.121 [SPEAKER_00]: But guys, we're kind of getting to the wire here slow. 46:15.422 --> 46:19.165 [SPEAKER_00]: Unless the cults are offered the right package for Jonathan Taylor, he ain't going anywhere. 46:19.549 --> 46:28.115 [SPEAKER_00]: they need a first round equivalent package or a straight first round pick offered in a package whether that's I would assume that they're looking for 2027. 46:28.556 --> 46:32.098 [SPEAKER_00]: But if it's not 2027, it's gotta at least be 2028. 46:32.419 --> 46:42.506 [SPEAKER_00]: But you need to get that legitimate value for one of the best running backs to lead a scene in the last 10 years in Jonathan Taylor. 46:42.866 --> 46:44.668 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't, you gotta be patient. 46:44.708 --> 46:44.888 [SPEAKER_00]: I know 46:48.304 --> 46:49.965 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not just going to trade him away for anything. 46:50.245 --> 46:50.545 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 46:51.606 --> 46:57.609 [SPEAKER_00]: Now guys, I have a feeling the comments are going to come flying in for this one to wrap up the show. 46:59.610 --> 47:03.213 [SPEAKER_00]: So Daniel Jones, all right, Daniel Jones. 47:04.233 --> 47:07.915 [SPEAKER_00]: So people are thinking, why hasn't he been traded? 47:08.756 --> 47:12.918 [SPEAKER_00]: Why won't the wire the cults being so stingy with him? 47:13.999 --> 47:15.800 [SPEAKER_00]: Why is he still on the roster? 47:16.579 --> 47:17.900 [SPEAKER_00]: Why is he starting? 47:18.461 --> 47:20.302 [SPEAKER_00]: Why is an Anthony Richardson? 47:20.803 --> 47:26.828 [SPEAKER_00]: Why hasn't he taken over as the main guy, you know? 47:29.050 --> 47:30.831 [SPEAKER_00]: Why hasn't Anthony Richardson? 47:38.358 --> 47:39.219 [SPEAKER_00]: Did I lose you guys? 47:41.641 --> 47:43.863 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, did I lose you guys? 47:45.440 --> 47:55.224 [SPEAKER_00]: No, regardless, sorry, sorry if I lost the visual part of the podcast, but guys, I do think that Daniel Jones is staying this year and next. 47:55.624 --> 48:00.106 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I think that the Indianapolis holds kind of kind of going, you know, 48:01.480 --> 48:08.826 [SPEAKER_00]: going along those lines, why would you, why would you trade away Daniel Jones now? 48:09.106 --> 48:12.690 [SPEAKER_00]: Why would you do anything with him next year? 48:12.790 --> 48:15.292 [SPEAKER_00]: You need to, if you don't get a first round pick. 48:15.852 --> 48:26.199 [SPEAKER_00]: for Jonathan Taylor, you absolutely positively have to get a bridge quarterback and you might as well just stick with Daniel Jones. 48:26.779 --> 48:37.166 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, if the quotes were to cut Daniel Jones next year or even, you know, if they would have cut him, it's basically just an 11.6 million dollar 48:39.911 --> 48:40.391 [SPEAKER_00]: savings. 48:41.112 --> 48:43.313 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness, guys, I'm so sorry, I guess I'm here. 48:44.694 --> 48:48.396 [SPEAKER_00]: We had a little bit of technical difficulties there, but we are back, baby. 48:48.996 --> 48:51.457 [SPEAKER_00]: Why would you, why would you cut Daniel Jones?

48:51.917 --> 48:59.301 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're only going to save $11.6 million next season, you don't have Anthony Richardson. 48:59.542 --> 49:02.343 [SPEAKER_00]: He's gone, right, in 2027. 49:02.863 --> 49:04.324 [SPEAKER_00]: He's on the final year of his contract. 49:04.344 --> 49:04.784 [SPEAKER_00]: He's done. 49:05.445 --> 49:05.745 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 49:06.820 --> 49:12.161 [SPEAKER_00]: Why would you, why would you get rid of Daniel Jones if you're only going to save 11.6 million dollars? 49:13.462 --> 49:18.323 [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to use that kind of money to sign a drew lock to sign a Marcus Marriota. 49:18.723 --> 49:25.485 [SPEAKER_00]: To sign your next bridge guy who's got to learn the culture, he's got to learn the players. 49:26.885 --> 49:29.806 [SPEAKER_00]: The best move guys it hurts for me to say this too. 49:31.046 --> 49:32.867 [SPEAKER_00]: The best move is to keep Daniel Jones. 49:33.668 --> 49:36.451 [SPEAKER_00]: It just, it just is, it just is. 49:36.811 --> 49:46.039 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know what, if you cut him, read June 1st, you net $11.6 million in cash base for 2027. 49:46.880 --> 49:51.524 [SPEAKER_00]: If you cut him post June 1st, you net $11.6 million in capsavings for 2027. 49:51.544 --> 49:53.366 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you net $11.6 million in capsavings for 2028. 49:59.866 --> 50:09.193 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's not enough to warrant giving up on your quarterback who knows the team and who you know is gonna stay next to your if you don't pet it. 50:10.194 --> 50:21.744 [SPEAKER_00]: My point is, this ladies and gentlemen, is the reason why Shane, Stike and won't go with Anthony Richardson, it's very simple. 50:22.584 --> 50:25.867 [SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Jones is your 2027 NFL quarterback for the Colts. 50:27.072 --> 50:28.172 [SPEAKER_00]: You need to bridge quarterback. 50:28.212 --> 50:30.713 [SPEAKER_00]: Why not stick with the guy who knows the team? 50:31.013 --> 50:36.814 [SPEAKER_00]: Why not stick with the guy who knows the culture who's who's built rapport with the players as bad as he's been, as terrible as he's been. 50:37.234 --> 50:39.334 [SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Jones is not the following. 50:39.634 --> 50:40.574 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not a complainer. 50:41.135 --> 50:45.715 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not, he's not soft, he's not a culture killer. 50:46.035 --> 50:47.856 [SPEAKER_00]: The guy is loved by his teammates. 50:47.876 --> 50:49.276 [SPEAKER_00]: You can go back to the giant stays. 50:49.596 --> 50:53.937 [SPEAKER_00]: Even though he's sucked, the giants, that giants roster loved Daniel Jones. 50:55.933 --> 51:00.916 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to, he's tougher than he's tougher than a freaky $2 stake in son-dried jerky. 51:01.376 --> 51:06.579 [SPEAKER_00]: The guy is always going to give his best, even if it's not the best, right? 51:07.099 --> 51:09.641 [SPEAKER_00]: He is going to give everything he can. 51:10.041 --> 51:14.904 [SPEAKER_00]: You can say everything you want about Daniel Jones and I have, I think they should go with Anthony Richardson. 51:15.224 --> 51:20.407 [SPEAKER_00]: But when you look at the, look at the way that things are laying out, they don't want to trade him. 51:20.567 --> 51:21.988 [SPEAKER_00]: They said they're not going to trade him. 51:26.421 --> 51:26.943 [SPEAKER_00]: He just is. 51:27.765 --> 51:31.376 [SPEAKER_00]: Why would you go with anybody else if it's only going to save you $11.6 million? 51:31.778 --> 51:32.921 [SPEAKER_00]: They've resented the trade offer. 51:33.758 --> 51:40.521 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, even if you look at the cap numbers, you cut in post June 1st, it says you save like 38 million. 51:40.541 --> 51:47.163 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that just means that a piece of that contract is kicked out until the 2028 season where they still have to pay it. 51:47.724 --> 51:54.086 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so that, excuse me, that means that a portion of that contract kicked out to the 2027 season. 51:54.486 --> 51:56.887 [SPEAKER_00]: So either way, they're only saving $11.6 million this year. 51:58.468 --> 52:00.549 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, uh, excuse me, in 2027. 52:01.209 --> 52:02.850 [SPEAKER_00]: So 11.6 million's not enough. 52:02.890 --> 52:04.410 [SPEAKER_00]: You're still gonna sign a bridge quarterback. 52:04.690 --> 52:06.251 [SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Jones is not going anywhere, guys. 52:06.291 --> 52:10.312 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that that might not be what people want to hear, but it's the truth. 52:10.432 --> 52:16.935 [SPEAKER_00]: I really, I wouldn't, I would put my mortgage down, but he is the quarterback next season. 52:18.175 --> 52:19.816 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, let's see here. 52:19.896 --> 52:21.836 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, sorry if my camera went out, guys. 52:22.817 --> 52:23.057 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, 52:24.535 --> 52:25.676 [SPEAKER_00]: It looks very prepared. 52:25.696 --> 52:27.378 [SPEAKER_00]: The other life is good. 52:27.398 --> 52:28.959 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, thank you for answering my question. 52:29.179 --> 52:30.040 [SPEAKER_00]: Keep giving great insight. 52:30.060 --> 52:31.802 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much, Matt. 52:32.322 --> 52:34.805 [SPEAKER_00]: I've taken a second round pick plus a third for Taylor. 52:34.825 --> 52:35.765 [SPEAKER_00]: We will not be picking you. 52:35.805 --> 52:38.468 [SPEAKER_00]: Keeping you next year with a late first round pick any ways. 52:38.508 --> 52:39.989 [SPEAKER_00]: Taylor sure doesn't look good right now. 52:40.370 --> 52:44.754 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, again, Paul mean every NFL team knows that they need to tee off on Taylor. 52:45.334 --> 52:45.634 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, 52:46.567 --> 52:48.268 [SPEAKER_00]: Man, it doesn't matter who the hell you have. 52:48.288 --> 52:49.469 [SPEAKER_00]: You could have Barry Sanders. 52:49.509 --> 52:51.770 [SPEAKER_00]: You could have Emmett Smith back there. 52:51.790 --> 52:53.732 [SPEAKER_00]: You could have Walt Prime Walter Peyton. 52:54.372 --> 53:10.563 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, dude, if

every defense knows you have no way to threaten them deep in today's NFL and that's your top players in the backfield and you're dealing with a fourth round rookie at guard where Quentin Nelson was playing. 53:12.037 --> 53:13.238 [SPEAKER_00]: And Jail and Travis got hurt. 53:13.378 --> 53:21.442 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, Taylor would have to be, I mean, it's on paper. 53:21.482 --> 53:23.062 [SPEAKER_00]: It's understandable why Taylor is struggling. 53:23.363 --> 53:25.203 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm staying with you coming from absolutely Paul. 53:25.624 --> 53:29.646 [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I don't know how you expect Taylor to do well. 53:29.866 --> 53:31.787 [SPEAKER_00]: Like this often stinks. 53:32.247 --> 53:33.908 [SPEAKER_00]: They can't move the ball down field. 53:34.308 --> 53:35.989 [SPEAKER_00]: They call too many passing plays. 53:36.329 --> 53:38.570 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't try to bounce Taylor outside. 53:38.950 --> 53:40.131 [SPEAKER_00]: Instead, they try to run him. 53:40.711 --> 53:59.860 [SPEAKER_00]: you know, within the interior, interior gaps when there's no deep threat to push that defense and extend that defense, there's just, there's just no way to, for Taylor to like catch defense by surprise, unless he himself breaks a long run like you didn't, like he did against Minnesota, there's no way for him to actually do anything else. 53:59.981 --> 54:04.883 [SPEAKER_00]: So, um, yeah, I mean, I mean, we'll see, 54:10.519 --> 54:22.525 [SPEAKER_00]: Patrick says first round picker nothing absolutely absolutely throwing in Mitchell's stupid dumb trade all around it was it was a really rough one Let me see here. 54:23.286 --> 54:23.986 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me see here. 54:24.246 --> 54:24.426 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 54:24.566 --> 54:25.267 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're back. 54:27.027 --> 54:27.928 [SPEAKER_00]: Randy right 54:29.720 --> 54:42.872 [SPEAKER_00]: Taking me back a few years to my favorite year of covering the colds man 223 was an absolute absolutely insane season One of my favorites ever one of my favorites ever, but I'd rather have the Mayo King will love it. 54:43.252 --> 54:56.363 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not even the web is so it's levits Yeah, well, you know, not me not me Randall I'd rather have other other advantage of Jones and will love us 54:58.998 --> 55:05.332 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me see here, wow, I didn't know you hated JT that much. 55:05.675 --> 55:10.478 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you're talking about, uh, draggy, but, um, no, I don't hate JT. 55:10.498 --> 55:11.118 [SPEAKER_00]: It's facts. 55:12.079 --> 55:30.070 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, if you think that, if you think that me saying that Jonathan Taylor can't move the football because the cults don't have the greatest offensive linemen they've ever possessed in Quentin Nelson, they don't have any deep threats, they're not able to push the ball and everyone knows you just have to blitz Daniel Jones. 55:30.431 --> 55:34.313 [SPEAKER_00]: If you think that that is me saying that I hate Jonathan Taylor, you know what, man? 55:34.872 --> 55:36.432 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll give it to you. 55:36.873 --> 55:40.554 [SPEAKER_00]: You take that opinion and I guess run with it. 55:41.474 --> 55:44.415 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to, but no, I don't hate Jonathan Taylor. 55:44.855 --> 55:48.276 [SPEAKER_00]: Dallas says one of the worst defenses in the league they do, they really do. 55:48.736 --> 55:50.536 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we're going to wrap it up with this one. 55:50.556 --> 55:51.717 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a good comment. 55:52.237 --> 55:53.397 [SPEAKER_00]: Taylor is my favorite player. 55:53.457 --> 55:55.638 [SPEAKER_00]: I just know where I'm going to magically spawn an O-line. 55:56.598 --> 56:00.439 [SPEAKER_00]: So when will Taylor be able to run with no other threats on this offense? 56:01.297 --> 56:08.604 [SPEAKER_00]: All that's very fair, and that's very fair, and that's why Taylor is not doing well these past few weeks. 56:08.644 --> 56:16.230 [SPEAKER_00]: And in fact, even against the Vikings, I mean, yeah, yeah, at almost 100 yards, but like 45 yards or so, that were from one touchdown run. 56:16.791 --> 56:22.896 [SPEAKER_00]: So the rest of that's like, you know, about just a little over four yards of carry. 56:23.397 --> 56:23.617 [SPEAKER_00]: So, 56:25.013 --> 56:25.413 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 56:25.994 --> 56:36.623 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man, we'll see what happens with JT, but they better get that appropriate compensation else they need to deny, deny, deny, deny, cause Jonathan Taylor probably has three, four prime seasons left. 56:36.943 --> 56:41.807 [SPEAKER_00]: I just get this vibe that he's going to do what Eric Henry didn't, and age is just going to be a number for him. 56:42.148 --> 56:42.628 [SPEAKER_00]: I really do. 56:42.668 --> 56:48.373 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Jonathan Taylor's going to play at least three or four more prime seasons at this level in the NFL. 56:48.393 --> 56:50.175 [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, if you're the coach, you better 56:51.600 --> 56:56.582 [SPEAKER_00]: You damn, you damn sure better not give him away for anything less than a first round compensation. 56:56.882 --> 57:02.465 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's a package that that equates out to first round pick or an outright first round pick. 57:02.505 --> 57:04.245 [SPEAKER_00]: But guys, I appreciate it. 57:04.285 --> 57:05.226 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much. 57:05.686 --> 57:06.566 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the show. 57:07.647 --> 57:10.948 [SPEAKER_00]: Man, it's it's it's it's a tough it's a tough time to be a cult's fan. 57:10.968 --> 57:12.909 [SPEAKER_00]: But these next few hours are gonna be huge. 57:13.309 --> 57:14.109 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much. 57:14.409 --> 57:15.710 [SPEAKER_00]: We've got Randy Renault. 57:16.350 --> 57:18.471 [SPEAKER_00]: We've got Patrick Ryan. 57:18.892 --> 57:20.572 [SPEAKER_00]: We've got Darth Raider. 57:20.633 --> 57:21.473 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so

much. 57:21.493 --> 57:24.355 [SPEAKER_00]: Of course Paul Wilson, absolute legend joining the show. 57:24.815 --> 57:26.036 [SPEAKER_00]: Matt Vicente Perez. 57:26.056 --> 57:27.637 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much Isaiah Davis. 57:27.997 --> 57:34.160 [SPEAKER_00]: Matrix has you, Travis Leonard, X-Lax G7P, Kelly Ricell. 57:35.381 --> 57:36.822 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness, guys, so many. 57:37.508 --> 57:41.691 [SPEAKER_00]: So Patrick Ryan, if I already mentioned it, sorry about that. 57:42.051 --> 57:44.913 [SPEAKER_00]: David Burrow's best, cold show on the interwebs. 57:44.933 --> 57:45.534 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much. 57:45.594 --> 57:46.935 [SPEAKER_00]: I also appreciate interwebs. 57:46.955 --> 57:48.716 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a big word for anyone over 30. 57:49.477 --> 57:50.518 [SPEAKER_00]: I really liked that one. 57:51.238 --> 57:56.062 [SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, we had Patrick Ry right there kind of giving the, 57:56.935 --> 58:01.517 [SPEAKER_00]: giving the scoop on what Shepher mentioned about the Giants package of what they offer to Colts. 58:02.457 --> 58:06.538 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we've got Daniel Miller, Teresa Willis Johnson, and Depina. 58:07.299 --> 58:09.359 [SPEAKER_00]: We had Nathan Commandsy at the start of the show. 58:09.399 --> 58:12.841 [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, if I'm missing anybody, I do apologize Tony Pellotary. 58:12.861 --> 58:13.521 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much. 58:13.881 --> 58:17.142 [SPEAKER_00]: But guys, we're going to be right back here again on Monday. 58:17.562 --> 58:19.903 [SPEAKER_00]: Next week, perhaps the Colts can be to Dolphins. 58:19.923 --> 58:23.164 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a really bad team, but so were the Titans, right? 58:23.184 --> 58:25.085 [SPEAKER_00]: They were worse than the Colts or so we thought. 58:25.585 --> 58:33.051 [SPEAKER_00]: Colts couldn't beat them, I'm not sure if there's any team in the NFL right now you'd be like okay the Colts can beat this team, but guys next Monday. 58:34.092 --> 58:49.205 [SPEAKER_00]: Gonna have a special guest and I'm already going to go ahead and just mention this, it's not an engine more or anybody that's been on this show before very excited for the special guests next week, they're going to provide some awesome insight they've got a good podcast to the road that I'm sure. 58:49.625 --> 58:50.625 [SPEAKER_00]: Most of you colds fans. 58:50.686 --> 58:57.908 [SPEAKER_00]: If not all of you that follow this are also subscribed to on YouTube But we will get to that as we approach next Monday guys. 58:57.968 --> 59:08.292 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so very much for following this this podcast And don't forget to like the version on Facebook follow us on X at colds on underscore SI 59:08.712 --> 59:17.077 [SPEAKER_00]: and subscribe to us on YouTube so that you can get every cold notification update you can stay in tune with whatever your favorite NFL team is doing. 59:17.357 --> 59:19.818 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to listen to a problem, I've got us on Apple. 59:20.059 --> 59:21.039 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got us on Spotify. 59:21.079 --> 59:22.160 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got us on Google Play. 59:22.240 --> 59:23.581 [SPEAKER_00]: Anywhere you listen to podcasts. 59:24.021 --> 59:24.621 [SPEAKER_00]: We are there. 59:25.021 --> 59:26.142 [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, thank you so much. 59:26.222 --> 59:27.943 [SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy your Monday and enjoy the rest of this week. 59:27.983 --> 59:29.464 [SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy some Monday night football. 59:31.122 --> 59:37.489 [SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see what happens within the next few hours as the trade deadline looms, guys, is always, thank you so much. 59:37.910 --> 59:38.330 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what? 59:39.312 --> 59:40.393 [SPEAKER_00]: Cheers to all you wonderful people. 59:40.613 --> 59:40.974 [SPEAKER_00]: Take care.