התמלול המלא של Episode 124: Itemizing The Autumn

peaked the audio. 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:26.879 Yeah, I did. 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.480 So I'm gonna have to go back and change that. 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:31.839 Awesome. 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:38.160 Well, that's what you get for being a uh addicted to the bit, Maddie. 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:40.160 Yeah, good job. 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:43.040 And here is your ASMR sip. 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:50.240 So good. 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:58.079 Needed a little caffeine, some drinking a diet, a Pepsi or no, a Pepsi Zero. 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:07.199 Um I was talking with my friend uh Steve yesterday about all the different pops, and he's like, just drink the sugar stuff, man. 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:08.480 Don't do the diet. 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:22.399 And here's my thinking with that, and I don't know, I don't know if it's medieval, I don't know if it um even works, but I think there's enough sugar in one can of coke that is your supposed to be your daily intake of sugar. 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:23.199 All right. 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:25.279 I don't want diabetes. 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:27.600 I think my sugar and stuff is pretty good. 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:29.759 I'm not a big dessert guy. 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:36.319 So for me, having one of these once in a while with the chemicals, and I get it, the chemicals are bad, right? 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:40.000 Like cigarettes, like everything else, we know it's not good for you. 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:46.480 But I just think, well, I think it tricks my brain into thinking I'm having something sweet. 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:48.480 But S, I agree. 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:53.839 If you were to drink many, many, many diet pops in a day, I don't think that's good. 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:56.560 Because there's there's stuff in there, you know? 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:05.439 You can only take so many chemicals in the old meat wagon for uh for a 24-hour period. 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:15.120 But listen, friends, I digress and I'm on a tangent, and uh I wanted to tell you a little bit about the shows that I played this past weekend with Ron Hawkins. 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:17.120 Man, they were so great. 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:18.240 They were lovely. 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:25.600 It was really great for me to be back on the road driving, you know, down to the GTA. 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:32.000 I was just kind of taking it all in and appreciating the fact that yeah, I could drive. 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:38.879 I could really, you know, be the kind of master of my domain again. 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:47.120 I could be on the road and you know, plan my own schedule, have my own space in the car. 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:48.319 Don't get me wrong. 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:57.199 I had some great trips and rides with people this summer, and connecting in that way is lovely, and it's good for me because I think it pushes me out of my comfort zone. 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:05.600 I can get really introverted, but oh, it was like, you know that operatic song that plays in Shawshank? 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:12.319 Whatever that is. 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:19.120 I think that song was legitimately playing in my head for the whole car ride. 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:28.560 I was just like, oh, open highways, little bit of traffic, grab a coffee in this town, take a pee in that town. 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:29.680 Great. 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:35.759 I loved it, and I love the fact that I could just do be on my own accord, right? 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:46.320 Travel, do the things that I needed to do, but not be stuck, um, not be stuck in in someone else's schedule and timing. 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.720 So that that felt great. 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:59.840 And then yeah, I got a little hotel room the one night in Burlington, and um then the next night I just I headed home and uh actually I didn't even head home. 00:08:59.919 --> 00:09:04.159 On the second night, I stayed with my friends Sagan and Shelly. 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:05.519 That was so nice. 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:08.799 I was so wiped when I got to Sajan's place. 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:21.440 I think I had like one beer, and I was just crashing and left fairly early the next day to just get a move on, get going, you know, avoid the Labor Day traffic. 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:30.320 But I gotta tell you, friends, for Labor Day weekend, I was really envisioning a lot of people on the roads, a lot of people on the highways. 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:31.759 It wasn't that bad. 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:36.240 I left Friday morning thinking, okay, this is gonna kind of be hell. 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:46.480 There were some long lines on Highway 7, but it wasn't, I don't know, just the usual Labor Day volume didn't seem to be an issue. 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:54.320 Now, I don't know if that has to do with in Canada, tons and tons of schools this year went back a week before Labor Day. 00:09:54.480 --> 00:10:00.799 Um, not universities and colleges, I think all of those went, you know, there's they're still on the Labor Day schedule. 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:07.840 But regular schools like public schools, um, grade schools, high schools, I think all those went back. 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:09.200 A lot of them did. 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:13.519 So I don't know if that affected the flow, but at any rate, I digress. 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:27.519 The shows with Ron were were so great, we're so soul-filling in the way that we all hope and want shows to be when you're out there playing your music, your own original music to people. 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:32.480 And oh, I love, by the way, I love playing an opening set. 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:37.279 I think if I could just be an opener the rest of my life, to be fair, I love that. 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:50.559 I love playing eight songs, eight, nine songs, picking the best ones, being like, you know, oh, I'm just gonna cherry pick a set of all the songs that A, I want to play and

the ones that I feel will connect and hit. 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:53.679 And that's the best. 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:56.639 You get in, you get out, you're done. 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:03.840 Um, Ron basically played, excuse me, two of those sets as the closer. 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.879 Like, he played, I think, about 20 songs each night. 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:08.879 And Unreal. 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:11.039 Like, it's so many songs to play. 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:24.639 But he has so many fans and so many people that love him from different iterations, whether it's his lowest of the low stuff, his solo stuff, his um Ron Hawkinson The Do Good Assassins. 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:30.559 Um he's just got so many different songs he's written on in so many different albums. 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.279 So, yeah, I I think it was really special. 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:46.399 Those shows were really like cake and ice cream, and you can't have cake and ice cream every day or every meal because you know, you would just probably never eat real food again. 00:11:46.720 --> 00:12:08.480 So those were really special, and uh, I I'm still treasuring them, tasting the remnants in my mouth from a beautiful, beautiful weekend, and so many friends that I got to see who are friends of Ron and um fans of his and who have become sort of fans of mine too. 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:20.159 Um, great people like Angela, who comes to all of his shows, Melissa, Nick, um Halzi and Jeff, this great father-daughter duo from London. 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.000 Uh Sheila, Claude. 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:23.200 Well, I don't think Sheila was there. 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:32.399 Claude was there um with his lovely partner, Adam, um Josh, so many people. 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:33.440 So great to see. 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:37.759 Oh, Sandra, who works for um Tap Creative in London. 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:40.879 Just beautiful, so great. 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:48.799 And it was like seeing old friends and people who just wanted to support you, people who wanted you to do well. 00:12:49.200 --> 00:13:00.639 It's like sometimes on my shows, like Dan Harmon says in his um documentary, he's like, I'm so used to coming out and throwing myself onto the jagged rocks of my own self-hatred. 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:07.279 But when you get a crowd like that at your shows, it's literally like you can do no wrong. 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:14.960 They're like, you're already off the hook, you can do whatever you want, and you're gonna kill it because we love you. 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:18.559 I think that's just gold right there. 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:24.720 You can't bottle that, you can't jar it, you can't really do anything. 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:27.120 You just have to be you. 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:31.919 Um but yeah, it's those so those shows were so great. 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:44.159 And it was great to drive again because it showed me that you know things change, like you things go back to normal. 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:51.200 They they do the pendulum always swings the other way, even if you're in the most hellish moment of your life. 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:55.679 Um it's just going to be okay. 00:13:55.919 --> 00:14:07.279 Like whatever you're going through, you really, really have to believe that it's gonna be okay, and it's a hope that you can hold on to because it's just true. 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:10.720 It will, and it does. 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:21.120 And things change, and you you you know, you grow older, you get older, and you and then you get even more grateful for when things go well because you're like, fuck, you know, this life is so finite. 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:23.759 We're just here for a short time. 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:27.519 You know, what am I doing worrying about all this shit? 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:42.320 What am I doing spending all this energy, spending all this time taking up all this mental real estate on things that aren't serving me, you know, and things that are just sucking the wind out of my sails. 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:58.960 Um, speaking of sucking the wind out of my sails, if you want to keep the the great, the good ship graven alive, um, you can go to my ko-fi at ko-fi.com slash graven canada. 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:01.679 That's ko-fi.com slash graven canada. 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:03.840 There's only one tier, it's eight bucks a month. 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:07.759 And if you want to be a part of that, that would be incredible. 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:12.559 It just keeps me alive, keeps me afloat as an artist, and appreciate you. 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:17.519 Um, yeah, I I just appreciate anyone who's in there. 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:19.759 I think there's only maybe 30 people. 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:24.000 And um it's it's it's tough these days, you know. 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:25.440 Finances are really tough. 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:32.480 Um people who work in my line of work in the music world talk about how hard it is to sell advanced tickets. 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:34.799 It's a real thing, you know, it's very difficult. 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:47.200 So I think more and more artists are gonna have to move to more models like the Patreon, like the Ko-Fi, like the thing that's just if you can support me in this way, that would be amazing. 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.039 It would it would keep me alive. 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:55.120 And also it I think it just connects you to people, you know, it makes you friends with these folks. 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:59.360 Um, and it it's just a great thing. 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:02.639 So if you're able to support, I would really, really appreciate it. 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:03.600 It's easy to sign up. 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:06.559 You just need a PayPal, or I think you can just use a card or whatever. 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:15.840 The Ko-Fi is really just a payment system, and then it puts you onto a mailing list, uh, email list, and

I I do not abuse it, I only send out things once in a while. 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:23.039 Probably you'd probably like to hear from me more, but I'm a bit uh mercurial at the best of times. 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:26.559 But um, yeah, appreciate your support. 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:27.759 That means a lot. 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:33.679 Thank you to any of you who bought stuff on Bandcamp Friday last week or the previous one in August. 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:40.240 There was a lot of people who showed up to buy some things, and uh yeah, just appreciate you. 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:43.440 I have some ideas for some for some stuff coming up. 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:50.639 I think I'm gonna uh put out an acoustic version of geographics called geacoustics. 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:54.080 Ooh, how's that for a drop? 00:16:54.879 --> 00:17:07.680 But yeah, I have the the tracks, and I just want to, you know, make like a version that would just be very acoustic-ish and and a lot more stripped down. 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:14.720 There are some songs with some drums that get pretty heavy, but I I've I'm interested to hear like kind of what that would sound like. 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:18.319 So it would take a little bit of work from me and some doing. 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.960 Uh, but I think that would be a fun, fun project to work on. 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:34.079 I'm um I think I'm gonna be at I'm doing kind of the ads or whatever midway through, but I think I'm gonna be at uh Ontario, I don't even know what it's called, folk Canada. 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:39.359 There's a folk conference in Hamilton uh at the um middle of October. 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:44.400 I think it's the 17th, and I will be there just to do uh one showcase. 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:47.119 So I um just found out about that. 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:50.799 It's very cool, and uh we'll see you there. 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:58.799 I'm not always a fan, and I can you know say I like sometimes conferences aren't always my thing, man, and they're they can be really expensive. 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:10.880 Um, but I did go once in 2023, and I made some, I think maybe even 2022, can't remember, but it was in London, whatever year that was, and I made some really good friends that I'm still friends with today. 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:16.160 One thing about music conferences that I always say to people, because they're like, what should I do? 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:17.200 Should I go? 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:18.720 Who should I connect with? 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.519 Like, should I get trying to get my foot in the door somewhere? 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:28.720 I'd say don't spend your time doing any of that, but find some like-minded musicians who you like. 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:30.720 Because you know what musicians always want to do? 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:32.559 Set up shows in different towns. 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:44.240 Musicians are always looking to tour, they're always looking to get on the road, play shows in different towns and different cities across Canada, even into the states, internationally, too. 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:53.279 So find some people who are like-minded, who are like musiced, if that makes a sensical loop. 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:59.839 Um, yeah, it's a great time to to find friends and at those things. 00:18:59.920 --> 00:19:08.640 You know, a lot of people are just sort of unsure what to do or how to connect or what you know, like figure out what they should be doing. 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:24.160 So yeah, um, I'm gonna be there, and then I think October 23rd and 24th, it's pretty certain that I'm gonna be doing two shows up at Parkwood um in Owen Sound. 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:26.559 And each night I'm gonna feature different musicians. 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:31.759 So I think it's gonna be called Graventown and the Sound, and uh that should be a lot of fun. 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:39.200 So would love to see you there, and there'll be more info and and tickets and stuff like that coming soon. 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:52.319 At the end of November, I'm doing a benefit show for my friend Chris, who passed at Irene's um with another band and um probably one other musician, I'm not sure, but that should be a lot of fun. 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:54.480 So I would love to see you there. 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:59.599 And yeah, let's uh let's just keep on rolling. 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:02.960 And here we are at the 20-minute mark. 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:08.960 I'm I'm looking at the lyrics to the song Worst Case Scenario. 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:13.519 I really love that song by Maddie Diaz, and I figured out sort of a way to cover it. 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:18.640 I covered it on a video a long time ago, but I've slid it into the set recently. 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:24.079 I don't think I did it, I didn't do it this past weekend with Ron. 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:25.519 Actually, no, maybe I did. 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:27.279 Maybe I did on the first night. 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:28.319 I can't remember. 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:53.119 Anyway, um, I think I did it one of the nights, and I tried to make the sets very different each night, and the pr problem was I didn't um practice one of the songs very well, and I kind of did a half version of this new song because I I just didn't spend the time and I thought, oh, I have it, it's gonna be okay, but it wasn't to my liking, you know. 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:55.599 So that happens sometimes. 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:57.279 But people were still very friendly. 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:00.559 Thanks to everyone who came, thanks to Ron for having me. 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:14.640 Um, thanks for buying vinyl, buying stickers, buying everything CDs, you know, all that stuff makes a huge difference and just keeps the the good ship graven afloat for a few more um months. 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:16.880 And that's kind of the way it goes these days. 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:21.920 When

you're when you're a full-time artist, you have to um be smart. 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:33.039 You've got to find ways to connect, you gotta find ways to to make passive income, which isn't the easiest thing because artists are not good at that. 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:57.279 Artists are only think about how can I create a product and then sell that product and then put every all the eggs into the basket of that thought, and that can be tough because if it doesn't go well or it's not selling to your expectations, then you feel sunk because you're like, Well, I just spent months getting this album out, and people aren't liking it, or it's not connecting, or whatever. 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:05.680 But you know, there's got to be some things in The background still moving, and I'm trying to get better at at focusing on those things. 00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:15.119 I'm trying to get better at you know just being open-minded and being open to you know the way the road looks. 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:17.440 I'm just looking at this album by David Miller. 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:21.200 Shout out to David Miller, uh Wolf Island musician. 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:22.799 Really nice dude. 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:24.960 Um, where did I see him? 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:30.160 Oh, he came to a show in my garage a couple weeks ago where Stephen Stanley played. 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:31.839 That was a lot of fun, too. 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:34.960 I don't know if I've I've spoken to you since then. 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:38.160 That was also a really fun night with Steven and Chris Bennett. 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:46.000 Um nice crew of people who came and just really wanted to listen, and and Steven just took it to a new stratosphere. 00:22:46.079 --> 00:23:01.599 He was walking around playing on the driveway, unmic'd, as he likes to do sometimes, and just up on the up on the uh there's kind of like a ledge in our driveway, and he was up there singing and hooting and hollering and carrying on like he does. 00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:02.960 I love Stephen. 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:08.240 Um yeah, and here we are at the 23 minute mark. 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:18.559 But hey, let's do a little um quote here from the teaching of Buddha, and this is from the chapter The Way of Purification. 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:25.200 These things are all harmful to man, and so Buddha said, throw away everything. 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:33.119 Still further, dragon, quote unquote, indicates a mind that has eliminated all worldly passions. 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:39.119 If a man digs into the things about him with the sword of wisdom, he will finally come to his dragon. 00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:48.559 Quote, leave alone and do not disturb the dragon, end quote, means to go after and dig up a mind free of worldly desires. 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:57.920 Now I know that seems impossible at times, but I do feel like I'm sort of entering into that precipice. 00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:05.759 Um I'm I'm entering into a space where I don't need to care as much, you know. 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:10.640 Social media and all those things, they they they make us care. 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.839 They make us care, and I would argue too much about too many things. 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:32.799 We have all these causes and desires and dreams and yada yada and like political aspirations that are all shooting off in different directions, and we feel like we have to voice our opinions on the daily and be educated on everything daily, and it's so exhausting, man. 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:35.759 It's too much, it's not right. 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:40.880 Human beings aren't designed to live the way that we're living right now. 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:54.079 I spent probably an hour and a half today just scrolling, you know, and uh let's be honest, there's been days where it's been longer than that, but I just sort of caught myself at one point where I was like, oh shit, I got things to do. 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:59.039 I've got to rearrange rooms, got to record a podcast, need to maybe practice. 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:03.440 Well, let's be honest, I didn't practice today, but I'm gonna uh get into that. 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:09.839 By the way, tomorrow, any Ottawa folks who listen, I'm gonna be at Cafe 1870 in Wakefield. 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:11.839 Um, would love to see you there. 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:20.240 I think it's 20 bucks suggested, and I'm just gonna uh play a couple sets at the cafe on uh Friday, September 11th. 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:24.880 So on the happy anniversary of September 11th. 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:29.359 Um, I guess it's the fifth, would it be the 25th? 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:35.359 I think it's just the 25th year of the uh World Trade Center. 00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:36.079 Wow. 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:42.240 Anyway, uh on to more happy things, hopefully. 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:46.880 But uh but yeah, come out to Cafe 1870 if you're around, but love to see you. 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:48.319 That'll be fun. 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:57.440 And I was gonna do a show in Kitchener at the end of September, or I think not the end, but around the 19th or so, and I'm not gonna do that now. 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:16.880 So if you've been hearing about that, um I'm gonna do some shows down the road with Nixon Boyd from Holorado, who's releasing some great music, just a stoked songwriter, really, really um otherworldly talent, and just a great dude. 00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:28.000 I I met him for the first time at um the Big Star tribute show that I was a part of back in May with all these talented musicians. 00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:33.759 And yeah, we've we've been in touch since, and we're gonna try and play some shows and do some things. 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:36.240 I'm thinking it's gonna happen in in November. 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.559 So stay tuned for that. 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:44.880 But yeah, I uh appreciate you listening. 00:26:45.039 -->

00:26:46.480 I just appreciate you being here. 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:50.720 If you're able to at all help me in my GoFundMe, it would mean the world, man. 00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:57.039 I'm I'm uh originally I think it was set to 7,200, I think it's set to 8,000 now. 00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.920 There's only about 2,500 to go. 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:07.119 So, man, so many people have been so generous and so helpful in this legal thing that I'm involved with. 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:18.559 And again, it's just covering, I always believe with GoFundMe's or funding models that it's like I'll come up with a lot of the other money myself if I do a GoFundMe that can help part of it. 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:20.240 Um, but I get it. 00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:24.480 Different people are in different situations, and they might need to raise the whole kit and caboodle. 00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:32.000 But for me, I'm like, I'm just gonna raise half of it and I'll work and figure out the other stuff to make it work. 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:40.720 So yeah, I think I'm at 5660 or something like that, and need to get to 8,000. 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:42.960 So it's really not that far to go. 00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:47.119 It's like 2,400 and some dollars, actually 2,300 and something. 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.039 So if you can help in any way, it would mean a lot. 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:56.640 You can find the GoFundMe link in my bio at Graven Canada on Instagram. 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.720 Um, and you can find it probably on Facebook as well. 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:05.119 So yeah, any support in that way would be incredible. 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.119 If you want to join the Ko-Fi, that would be great. 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:17.680 Hey, if you want to be a sponsor of the Graven Town Podcast, uh, my irregular, erratic, neurotic podcast, um, that would be amazing. 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.319 Let's talk because I am getting more clicks. 00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:21.839 People seem to be listening. 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.279 If you are one of those people who are who are listening, thank you. 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:37.759 You know, thank you so much for being here, for tuning into my mental discrepancies, my uh interstellar telepathies. 00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:43.279 I am just thankful that you know I get to do this. 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:45.200 I get to talk into the ether. 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.599 A lot of people I think feel bottled up and they don't get chances to talk. 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:58.000 And even me, you know, when I get into an expounding mindset, I can expound, but I go through times where I'm like, oh fuck, I don't want to say anything. 00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.920 And I become very insular and introverted and quiet. 00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:06.240 So this is a great tool for me, just you know, therapy-wise. 00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:10.640 And I've I've had some emails, I've got some really cool guests who are coming up. 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:14.160 I'm just sorting all of that out for um October and November. 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:26.400 Really looking forward to getting into the fold of that and the energy of having some new guests, um, some great musicians, some people I can't mention the names of yet till it's totally, totally confirmed. 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:28.960 But stay tuned, man. 00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:34.160 Keep your dial locked in to the Graventown signal. 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:39.440 And uh, I just want you to know that I really appreciate you a lot. 00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:44.799 I hope you have a great day, and just know you're always welcome in Graventown. 00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:51.359 It's good evening, DM.