התמלול המלא של Funny Book Forensics 458 Kitty Pryde Has Grit

five or six issues, I think. And then I just kept working in comics. The main places that I worked at once I got really established was Penny Farthing Press, who put out a lot of great books. Like Ann Steelyard, which Ron Randall pencil dynked the Victorian, which was. Was penciled by Claude St. Alvin who worked with DC a lot, I think mainly as an anchor base pencil when I was there. So I worked in comics from about 97 to about 2018 and then. Oh, and the Bullies Bully. That's the only creator owned book I did with my partner, Courtney Huddleston. Yeah, it's a fun book and we had a lot of fun. It was a webcomic and then we. It put it out as a Kickstarter and then. Yeah, I also published comics as Rorschach Entertainment in about 2003 to about 2008. But really the first two years is when I put out more books. And then Brian and I started Jet City comic shop in 2009, 2010 and. But I've been a dealer in comic book shows, of course, an artist, a creator of comic book shows. I kind of deal with literally done just about everything in comic books at some point, you know. So yeah, yeah, that's, that's me. And now basically now I just run the show and I still set up as an artist here and there, he 46 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:06.000 says here and there. But I've seen you, I've seen you post about being at shows. 47 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:07.000 It's not here and there. 48 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:09.000 You, you've been doing stuff like all year. 49 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:14.000 So. Yeah, yeah, I, I tried it. It's nice to do about six shows a year. 50 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:17.000 You know, that's a good amount. 51 00:07:17.000 --> 00:08:05.000 Whereas, yeah, back way back in the day when I was really working in comics and publishing. So back in like 2003, four or five, I was doing about. And that's before the explosion of shows everywhere. Right. I mean Denver Comic Con was probably just starting. Emerald City was just starting too. Um, so I was doing about 12, 13 shows a year. Now there's a show every weekend, which there kind of wasn't other than like the small swap meets at that time. But then it, you know, it exploded and then, you know, and then it kind of COVID of course killed off a lot of shows. But there were, there were probably too many live shows. Were already struggling in 1819 anyway because there's just too many shows and the fans only have so much expendable cash. 52 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:06.000 Yeah. 53 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:31.000 And. And I'm even seeing it. It's been a problem for Jet City, Grit City, just because all these shows, because Emerald City was in the spring, is in the spring. All the shows wanted to be in the fall. And even though we predate all of them, they all like put on Their show within a week or two or the same weekend as Grid. As Grid City. And it's like, it's just hurting the fans. I mean, there's. There's other months, you know. 54 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:32.000 Right. 55 00:08:32.000 --> 00:09:02.000 I mean, it's. It's great. Summercon is in. Was it June? May. June, yeah. You know, so they're at least away from other shows. They're away from Emerald City, but they have space to grow in Rose City. Well, that happened to us with Rose City. So in their second or third year, they move to the same dates that we were at as Jet City. So. Okay, we'll push back to October and November, you know, is. Things like that. So. Yeah, I mean, it's. There's a lot of shows out there everywhere. 56 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:07.000 Well, our. Our favorite showrunners at SummerCon are running HorrorCon right before you. 57 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:12.000 Yeah, that. And then their toy show is the weekend before their big toy show. Yeah. 58 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:13.000 How nice. 59 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:17.000 Yeah, yeah. We say we're. 60 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:20.000 We're huge fans of the showrunners of. 61 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:21.000 So. 62 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:41.000 Oh, yeah. Uh, I mean, if they just, like with Mike, if they want to come on the show and defend themselves, that's fine. Um, it might be a. It might be a more serious debate than I will have with Mr. Tanner. But yeah, just like, you know, advertising guests that don't show up are, you 63 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:48.000 know, not putting actual creators inside a building, making them sit outside and then 64 00:09:48.000 --> 00:10:49.000 having the creators argue to have them come inside the building and. And then moving that person to an empty table because other people didn't show up that were advertised. Yeah, but. But what I will say I want to stay positive on SummerCon, because when Randy was on, he said he had one of his best weekends ever and really enjoyed meeting a lot of the fans. So it's kind of like this thing where, you know, as a. As a fan of certain things is hard because I'm a fan of comic books. And it's very clear that Summer Con is now focusing more on celebrities than comic books. And so I go, and I want updates on the comic creators that are going to be there. So if you tell me. Right. That you know Jack, or that. If you tell me that Stan Lee's chosen replacement, not Jack Kirby's chosen replacement, Jack Kirby, I don't think liked him. But if you tell me, you know, that Roy Thomas is going to show up at a show on a Friday and I buy a ticket for the show, I go there to meet Roy Thomas. 65 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:52.000 Right, right. Great guest. 66 00:10:52.000 --> 00:11:10.000 And that is a great guest when they're there. And so you Know, those are the kind of struggles. In fact, I still have it right here, Greg. I have my. I told you I was going to go negative, but I have my alter egos with the article of Roy Thomas talking about his favorite. 67 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:11.000 Oh, wow. 68 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:12.000 Books to write. 69 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:15.000 Yeah, yeah, right there. 70 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:28.000 But then also, too. I mean, then you have other shows like James's show,

where you have comic book creators and comic book vendors where you can go and you can find comics. You can find comic book creators that 71 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:30.000 have worked on said comics. Right. 72 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:35.000 And meet them, marry them up, and talk. Talk comics with people. 73 00:11:35.000 --> 00:12:30.000 Yeah, because we're gonna. We're going to talk glowingly about James's show. I'm going to give one negative. But it's not your fault. But it's not your fault. No, Greg, Greg, Greg has to hit me. He has to punch me a couple times when I go to the show because I laugh at the. Some of the vendors who price their books too high, and then they carry all their books in and carry them out, and then Greg has to go, shut up, Dan. This is not the time to talk about that. Be quiet. Your podcast is the time to talk about that. The car is the time to talk about that. Not in the middle of the show. Don't ruin the show. But outside of that. I mean, that's a Northwest thing, I think. Like, I see that happening constantly in the Northwest, and I don't know why I would think vendors would want to bring maybe. Well, you vend at times, so maybe you can shed some light on this. Why do I get so frustrated sometimes when I go into a show and I'm looking around and I'm like, why is this stuff priced so high? 74 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:56.000 So those are the guys, you know, because it's not like they're going to reprice their books from show to show for the most part. Those are the guys that do the big shows that cost, you know, let's say 800, $1,000 for a booth, you know, so lots of times you'll see them at. At least at half off at Grid City. So they. They bring up their prices because, you know, they got to pay those big table fees at other shows. 75 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:57.000 Right. 76 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:07.000 I think at Grit City, a lot of the vendors do have a fair price, but that's because they don't do the big shows. You know, like me, I'll price my books a sell. I don't want to sit on the books. Right? 77 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:08.000 Yeah. 78 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:57.000 I want them to go up. And that's. That's what I think most dealers would want. And we have, I haven't done a count yet, but I think, I know we're probably right around 40 comic book dealers, you know. Now some of those are like Jason Metcalf. Yeah, he's an artist. He's setting up with all the sprints, but he's bringing some, you know, I think he brought like five, six long boxes last year to the show to sell comics. And maybe it was more, you know, and he's like. And that was his first time ever doing it from his own personal collection. And he's like, man, I. It was awesome, you know, for him. So. And you know, Jason Martin, forgetting the books that he published and same thing, he brings some of his personal collection. I mean, if you're going to have a vendor booth to sell your artwork, well, you know, you could have some comic books from Marvel, DC or

whoever and sell those too if you want. Canon Artist Alley. 79 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:07.000 But see keyword Dan. Vendor booth versus Artist Sally. Dan was upset because I'm doing, we're doing Artist Sally. He was like, can I bring my books to sell? 80 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:08.000 And I was like, no, you can't 81 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:10.000 bring your books to sell. 82 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:12.000 That's right. Poster fell. 83 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.000 He got angry. 84 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:31.000 You knocked down the poster that you just got. I know, Yeah. I think, well, and I think, you know, it's a good point too. And one of the reasons I asked the question, I was sort of, I was sort of hoping you would answer that way. It was one of those where I had actually done some research for once. For once, Greg. 85 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:32.000 Yes. 86 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:50.000 And was seeing about. I was seeing the prices that are being charged by the big shows like especially Emerald City and, and looking, you know, why try. I was. Because, you know, people were pricing out and they were talking about why they have to price so high. Because if you're paying $1,000 for the weekend. 87 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:51.000 Yeah. 88 00:14:51.000 --> 00:15:03.000 You can't drop your prices and you can't sell them at a regular price because you're paying so much. And James, I'm assuming you're not charging the comic dealers $1,000 for the day. 89 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:33.000 No, no, no, no. We're quite a bit less. I like. We try to be as affordable as we can. I mean the convention center isn't the cheapest. I mean we find cheaper places. But it's a nice convention center. Parking is tight, so I keep the prices as low as possible. And just so you know, that's why we, you know, we don't have a ton of guests because honestly I want more creators, you know, like self published creators to be there as possible. So we bring in what, 10, 12 guests. 90 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.000 We're not really doing actors. 91 00:15:35.000 --> 00:16:39.000 Yesterday we only ever did like three actors at a show. And normally they're really kind of like how, you know, not the high end. You know, we never did brought in, we brought in like the old school sci fi or you know, guys like that, women like that. Or we only brought in one wrestler over the years which kind of wish I'd brought in more over the time, you know, over, you know, the 10 years of JETSU. But now Grid City is just strictly comic. So try to keep it a little more affordable. And this way you can buy tickets for $10 online before the show. I mean there's a little fee from the simple ticks and then. Sorry, I'm moving my table here so the camera's moving. Yeah, you know, I mean we want the show to be affordable for everybody. Even Jet City. For a long time we kept tickets at $10 for a single day, you know, because we, we want people, we want families to be there. There were shows, well, Emerald City, you know, years ago when it was growing, it's like, oh, we're gonna start charging for like 2 year olds. 92 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:40.000 Why? 93 00:16:40.000 --> 00:18:02.000 They literally a 6, 8 year old has some buying powers because mommy, daddy, buy me this toy or something. But a two year old, no buying power. But they actually kind of didn't want kids there, little kids or me, I'm like, hey, they're coming here, they're being exposed to comments and maybe they're not seeing what they're doing and you know, so seeing what's, you know, what it really is at that age. But you know, but for those 10 year olds, it's 12 and under is free to come into the show. So you know, I mean we're gonna, we. One of the things is, is we gotta grow more readers for this industry anyways. And one of that ways, besides the comic book stores, it's also comic book conventions. I mean that's where you get a meat creators more than any. That's really Grade's books. If Grade wasn't there and you were selling them, you're a lot less likely to sell that book because you're, you know, you're not the creator or, or so. And so is not the creator. You know, so the creator being there helps sell the books. And so, you know, hopefully I could help a little bit bringing in more, more of an audience. I mean, obviously self publish or indie books, it's a little harder sell no matter what. But you know, I'm more likely to buy from Craig than I am from somebody else selling his stuff at that table. 94 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:52.000 You know, Now, I did notice something. First off, I do want to remind folks, I don't know if we've actually said it. Saturday, November 7, 2026 Tacoma, Washington. We mentioned the convention center open 10 to 5. One of the best things about this show is it's like 10 bucks to get in and you can walk the floor in a couple of hours, but then you can spend the rest of your time, like James said, talking to creators. So it's one of those shows where you can choose your own adventure, too. Right? You're. If you show up there, you're not locked in elbow to elbow with people and trapped, where you're, you know, going to spend eight hours just circling one room, hoping you got into the next place. It's in the big, wide convention center, so there's plenty of space to wander around and look at things. There's all sorts of different things to do. I assume you're going to have the. I assume the Star Wars Legion folks will be there. 95 00:18:52.000 --> 00:19:04.000 Yeah, we got the Star Wars. We've got the Ghostbusters, the Halo crew, who's been coming for, I think, since the first Grid City. 96 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:05.000 And. 97 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:23.000 Yeah, so those are out in the lobby, which is a free area. And so that's always fun for family and whatnot. And then of course, the big giant Lego displays out there as well. So from the guys that run brickcon, they. They bring their LEGO crew up there, and it's a lot of fun. It's cool to see what they can do.

98 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:31.000 My wife knows none of those people at all. She doesn't. She doesn't go hang out with those people. She doesn't. She doesn't build Legos with them. She doesn't know anything about them. 99 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:34.000 No Legos. 100 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:41.000 She didn't sit out. She didn't stay up last night way too late building Lego at all. Not at all. Juan. 101 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:51.000 I was just looking through the featured guest list. One. One thing I will say is that I think somebody might be missing from the guest list. 102 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:52.000 Somebody. 103 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:56.000 Yeah, I need to get you up there. 104 00:19:56.000 --> 00:20:02.000 Huh? I totally messed up on that. All right, I'll get you up tomorrow. 105 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:07.000 I just was waiting. We didn't tell you. We actually. We actually didn't tell you on purpose so we could do that on the show. 106 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:09.000 Okay. All right. That's good. 107 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:11.000 We promise. Notice we're grinning. 108 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:12.000 We are. 109 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:19.000 This was totally on purpose. We did not design this to put you on the spot. We talked about it last week. We could have easily said something. 110 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:20.000 So this was. 111 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:26.000 I just want to make it real clear, James, this is not to call you out. I just wanted the pop moment and the grin. No, that's good. 112 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:29.000 Good. But I've got it on my screen right here. 113 00:20:29.000 --> 00:21:44.000 I was excited. No, I was super excited because there's folks that I know and I've met before and gotten to talk to, and then there's folks that I haven't spent as much time talking to. I. You know, we got the table next to Dev. I love talking to Dev. I could talk to Dev for hours. Dev Madden, Rich Warner will talk to you for hours, whether you want to or not. And I don't mean that as. Like, he knows everything about the industry that you could possibly want to know, from editing to drawing to writing. Like, if you want a master's class writing a comic book. Right. Or you want to write a comic book and you want to know what to do, go to Rich and say, rich, like, how did you get a comic into the industry? And he will tell you how he did it, how he helped somebody else do it, how he edited for somebody that did it. And then you're going to learn so much just from talking to him. Ron Randall will be there, who you've inked, if you want to know about. Yeah. If you want to know how to launch your own independent book and how to write for one of the big companies. Ron German. And our draw. 114 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:45.000 Super nice guy. 115 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:46.000 So nice. 116 00:21:46.000 --> 00:22:03.000 And I just. I remember him. We've told it on this podcast before, but James, I don't know if you know, Ron was telling me about one of his favorite books he ever did at dc. He inked it. And Murphy. Or he drew. He. He penciled it. And Murphy Anderson inked it. 117 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:04.000 Right. Which is like a. 118 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:31.000 He, like his idol, inked the book that he was drawing and he was like, this is fantastic. And another great human to talk to. And if you've never read Trekker, you need to start getting those Kickstarters. And he'll have it there. Scott Collins, who knows nothing about inking. That was sarcasm. 00 is going to be there. 119 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:33.000 His first time. 120 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:34.000 Yeah. 121 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:35.000 At our show. At our show. 122 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:53.000 That's a good get. It's a great get for people. Yeah. For folks that are sleeping on the show. Like, if you. If you go for anything, like, I mean, everything that we've talked about before, those are all fantastic reasons. But if you want to see somebody, this is somebody that should be on your list. 123 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:54.000 Yeah, definitely. 124 00:22:54.000 --> 00:23:17.000 Yeah. And I was joking Too. I've never. I'm. I'm going to say right now, I've never gotten. Not in person. Not looking at them. Obviously looking at them is different, but I've never gotten Scott Collins and Scott Koblish confused at all being in. In the books at the same time. Doing a lot of stuff at the same time. Both doing work with Keith Giffen when he was alive. 125 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:18.000 Okay. 126 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.000 So I never confused them at all. 127 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:22.000 Like. 128 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:42.000 But no, he's absolutely fantastic. Oh, that's okay. I just had to do some quick research. So I think Coblish was doing some Legion stuff with Levitz and Giffen. Collins was doing the Lar Fleas book, the Orange Lantern one. Greg, you're like, who's Lar Freeze? The Orange Lantern, Lar Fleas. You're like, I don't know. 129 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:44.000 Larfleeze is a cool name. 130 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:57.000 Well, he had the, like, Orange Lantern, the Greed Lantern, and he had his, like, own planet. He was collected. They did. And Keith Giffen got to do kind of a funny, haha, like, series with him in 2013. Scott Collins did the pencils and inks for it. 131 00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:58.000 Okay. 132 00:23:58.000 --> 00:23:59.000 A bunch of the books. Yeah. 133 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:03.000 So it's tough. Tough at the big companies to do pencils and inks yourself. 134 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:16.000 Yeah, it looks like 12 issues on that. And then a couple of specials, too. Like, that's. I have those. And he did do Legion, Volume four. I was right. Okay. There was some Legion, some Archie Legion. 135 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:17.000 Oh. 136 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:26.000 But when it was becoming less Archie. Yeah, I. Because it's kind of hard thinking about Scott Collins drawing Archie. 137 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:30.000 Archie

style. 138 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:31.000 Yeah. 139 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:54.000 But yeah, he's. He. He was. Well, he did do one that was kind of Archie style. I will say that. I'm kind of looking at it right here, which is really weird for me to think about, but yeah, he did sort of the end of the. Of that run as they were transitioning to Abnet Lanning, moving from the Tom McCraw run to that in the late 90s, which nobody cares about except for me. So I'm going to stop talking about that. 140 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:55.000 It's just Dan. 141 00:24:54.000 --> 00:25:04.000 It's just Dan. Literally, no one cares. I can hear Travis Webb yelling at me right now, to me, stop talking, Dan. Stop talking about the Legion, Dan. Nobody cares about the Legion. 142 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:05.000 He. 143 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:08.000 He literally just called. Just telling me to tell you to stop talking. 144 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:13.000 Yeah, I. I'm sure. Oh, he did a Solomon Grundy book. How fun is that? I think I have that. 145 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:15.000 I think he wrote it too. 146 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.000 He wrote that one. I think he did. Maybe he did. I'M looking at it. 147 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:21.000 Double check me on that. Okay. 148 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:43.000 Yeah. Born on a Monday. I'm gonna make sure you know that. So. And he also wants pants, but he has kind of pants in the story, so, you know, Solomon Grundy wants pants. Yeah, he wants pants too. You know, it's very important. So, yeah, I'll quit talking about Scott, but I have a bunch of Scott stuff. I cannot wait to bring a couple things to have him sign. 149 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:44.000 Sweet. 150 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:48.000 And get to chat with him. Bob Smith. That guy's not done anything. 151 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:49.000 No, not at all. 152 00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:52.000 Been working forever, since the 70s. 153 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:59.000 Talk about Archie, by the way. Super nice, super friends. 154 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:11.000 And he's from, what, Aberdeen originally. And then he moved out to New York, you know, working at D.C. and then now he's back in think Aberdeen area. So, yeah, he's, I think he had quite the career. 155 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:14.000 Yeah, he lived out my way for a minute. 156 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:15.000 Okay. 157 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:20.000 Like a hot minute. He, he was like, literally, we were, we probably shopped at the same grocery 158 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:28.000 store, and I was like, wow, so you fanboyed it? 159 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:37.000 Well, no, but I like when we tabled, we tabled next to each other once, and it was like, my wife's a big RG collector. 160 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:38.000 So, yeah, he fanboyed. 161 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:46.000 I, yeah, of course. I, I, I was like, hey, what's going on? 162 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:48.000 We're both super nice guy. 163 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:59.000 Like, he's, he's so unassuming, too. It's

hard to like, I mean, it's. You're fanboying, but then he's just like, really chill. Yeah, he's a nice dude. 164 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:10.000 I mean, he worked with Stan Goldberg forever, you know, at Archie. You know, I mean, that alone is legendary. You know, those two together, just doing stuff. But, and then all his. 165 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:20.000 And you had a, you have another guy who did some work with Keith Giffen writing, too. Matthew Clark did one of the Doom Patrol relaunches that Keith Giffen wrote. 166 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:29.000 Yeah, yeah. And he's, Matthew is a huge fan of Doom Patrol 2. So he was so happy to be on that book. That is. No, this is good guy. 167 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:31.000 This is fun. 168 00:27:31.000 --> 00:28:00.000 Matthew's done our show probably as, as many times as Shane White. They've probably done the most shows of Great City Jet City shows as anybody. So, you know, he's, he's, we've been, you know, known him for, well, since the very first Spokane Lilac Con. Since he did that when it was back in the old, what is it, the community college over there. So that's when I got to know him. Yeah. The first or second one I Can't remember. 169 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:01.000 Okay. 170 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:06.000 Yeah, no, yeah, he's had a great career, too, in comics, you know. 171 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:24.000 You know, I'm just poking around on the DC Wiki right now. Fun fact. Apparently the. And I have no idea. I'd have to pull this back out if. If I even have it. I don't even know if I was still collecting it at this point. But there was an issue of the Outsiders run in the 2000s that Matthew Clark and Ron Randall drew together. 172 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:31.000 Yes, that's right. Think Ron might have been the Ink Girl, though. I can't remember. Maybe they both penciled. I don't know. 173 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:35.000 They were both penciling. Yeah. So they split, it looks like. 174 00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:41.000 Okay, yeah. Because they were in the studio in Portland together at that time. 175 00:28:41.000 --> 00:29:06.000 Oh, that makes. Okay, yeah. This looks like it's around the end of that series when they were doing, like, the checkmate thing, right before they killed Blue Beetle Ted Cord. There are lots of blue beetles. I should specify Ted Cord. Well, Ted Cord got better, apparently. That's one of those. There are some deaths in comics that should stay. That one should have stayed. It's. 176 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.000 It's not the same Ted Court that you remember. 177 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:17.000 Well, no, because they do the universe thing, and I get it, but. And I get why they bring characters back and they've got to make money and all of those things, but, man, that story was so good. 178 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.000 He's excited. 179 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:40.000 When you have a story that good, I think we may be getting into a character they shouldn't bring back here in a second. So when

you have a story that good, you probably shouldn't bring the characters back. Like, when you kill a character, it should mean something. And, you know, you shouldn't bring them back, like, literally the next issue. Right, James? 180 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:43.000 Sure, sure. Gotta make them worth. Worthwhile. Who. 181 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:46.000 Who died? 182 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:47.000 Well, I was. 183 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:48.000 I was. 184 00:29:47.000 --> 00:30:03.000 I was. I was talking about X men. Like, like 30 years ago, longer than 30 years ago, I bought this graphic novel, the X Men, because it had Phoenix on the COVID not knowing that Phoenix wouldn't be in the story at all. 185 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:10.000 And. Oh, that's a good point. But it's a nice Art Adams cover. It looks like. Is that Art Adams? 186 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:11.000 It is Arthur Adams. 187 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.000 You are correct. 188 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:38.000 Look, see, this is why we have artists on the show, Greg. So I can just hold up things and they go, oh, that's an Arthur Adams cover. And I would have to go get, like, my Arthur Adams coffee table book and, like, pull it out and, like, look at it. And oh. Oh, yeah, that's this. That's when we have artists on the show and they're like, oh, yeah, I can just tell by the line work there that that's Arthur Adams and we're good to go. See, this is where. 189 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.000 Very distinctive artist. Yeah. 190 00:30:41.000 --> 00:31:05.000 Yes, we get an Arthur Adams cover. And I almost said. And unfortunately we get. But I actually don't. I know some of Paul Smith's run on the X Men is kind of mashed between John Byrne and Silvestri and sometimes people don't value it. I thought Paul Smith's art on X Men was fine. 191 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:20.000 He's a great draftsman. Yeah, he's. He's a good storyteller. You know, he just didn't have a big. I mean, he had a decent run actually on. That's been not like super long, like a lot of guys back then, but he. I forget he did quite a bit, if I remember right. 192 00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:38.000 Well, and when you come after Dave Cockrum and John Byrne, I mean, it's tough. Yeah, that's. That's not. You know, I know Mike Grell has even spoken to the past about coming after Dave Cockrum on Legion. And then, you know, Byrne goes after Dave Cockrum on X and then you bring in new artist. 193 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:39.000 Right? 194 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:48.000 Here you go, new artist. Replace these two legends who aren't even legends yet. But. Well, I guess at that point Cockram 195 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:54.000 probably where it was Cocram was. And Burn and made a huge name for himself obviously on X Men by that point too. 196 00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:58.000 So, yeah, I think Burn becomes the legend after DC buys him. 197 00:31:58.000 --> 00:31:59.000 Just. Yeah, like. 198 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:00.000 Right. 199 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:12.000 And then he has. And then he's both a legend and we discussed Superman. Yeah, not right now. I'm. I'm not getting off track today. Weird. That's. This is not how we're focused, Dan. 200 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:13.000 Don't. 201 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:21.000 Don't talk about how terrible man of Steel is and the whole Superman run and destroying Legion of Superheroes and don't. Not today. Not. Not today. 202 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:22.000 We're not. 203 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:22.000 We're not doing that today. 204 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:29.000 Just because we have a guest doesn't mean you have to impress them with your. I can stay on task. 205 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:40.000 Oh, well, it wasn't even like impress him that I stay on task. I was just impressing him by saying that. I'm not going to talk about how much I hate John Byrne today. That's. 206 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:46.000 So. So you didn't get his new little. His new Ed Twin book that he just put out, right? Oh, no, no, I'll make sure. 207 00:32:46.000 --> 00:33:52.000 No, I copy it for you. Like. Yeah, so I haven't. I haven't bought Marvel books. I Haven't bought Marvel books since they took the mask off Spider man and Civil War and wow. And also the Disney buyout. So I just, it was, I was buying, I think I was buying a couple of books that I, I, I went down, I think I was buying. Obviously not popular to say you're buying stuff from Joss Whedon, but I was buying Astonishing and I was buying, I was buying X Factor, but then they combined it with Civil War and made it a regular superhero book instead of a, instead of a detective agency book. So I dropped that. And then I was kind of starting to drop the X stuff. And then I almost became an exclusively DC and Image and other book person from that point forward. So on occasion, I will go buy a Marvel book, right? So right now I just buy uncanny because Gail Simone writes it and that's the only Marvel book I buy each month. 208 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:56.000 So you're still giving them a little bit of love, you know, that's okay. 209 00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:17.000 Yeah, a little. Yeah. And I mean, I love Matt Fraction, but I didn't even go like, buy ma Matt Fraction stuff at Marvel. Right? Like it's. Matt Fraction wrote the introduction to Teenagers from Teenagers from the Future, essays on the Legion of Superheroes. And I don't even. To buy Matt's book. 210 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:23.000 You're like, no, can't do it. I don't wanna, I don't want those Marvel books in my room. 211 00:34:23.000 --> 00:35:18.000 Yes. If you write in a non, if you write the forward to a non fiction book about the Legion of Superheroes, I probably am going to love you forever if you're an artist or a writer. But yeah, that wasn't even enough. And a lot of it was what now 20, 15 years later, I've been proven right. Which I'm not proud of. I hate that. Right. I wish that Marvel under Disney had not recycled a bunch of old plots and done a bunch of trickery and run their readership

into the ground. You know, it's, it's awful, right? Because it just hurts creators and their opportunities. And, and that's the thing, you know, but you know, we know who's talked about a lot in the show. I mean, last year was the first time DC outsold Marvel since the 70s. The early 70s. 212 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:23.000 Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, it's about time they, they made it there. 213 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:31.000 But yeah, and that's, and DC is just doing a better job right now. So we're not focused on that. 214 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:33.000 No. 215 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:40.000 James wanted us to talk about a book. Well, you want us to talk about two books and one we didn't have access to it. It's so hard to find the first book, James. 216 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.000 Yeah, tell us about the first one because it looked really cool. 217 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.000 It did look really cool. 218 00:35:44.000 --> 00:38:19.000 Yeah. The first one is called Pathways to Fantasy. Right. This is from first comics back in 84. And they only published one issue because they kind of ran out of money at that time. Pacific Comics. And it's premium, so it's, it's like painted interiors. It's on glossy paper. It's not newsprint. We got Barry Windsor Smith, Jeffrey Jones in there. Bruce Jones wrote a couple stories. I think he probably put it together. So, yeah, I mean, you got some cool Windsor Smith artwork. You can never go wrong with him. You know, it's like classic stuff, classic sub now. And then you got John Bolton in there too, you know, doing his paintings. I think he's more of a gallery artist now, John Bolton. But he did like backup stories in Classic X Men. I think, like, that's what it was. And then of course, he did other books and comics too. But yeah, I mean, it's just basically great artwork, you know, and it's all fantasy artwork, you know, fantasy stories. And it's like. It's an anthology. So there's, I don't know, four or five, six stories. And I, I just. When I was looking through some of my comics, I'm like, oh, this one would be cool, but I doubt it's online anywhere to even find or something, you know. But, you know, but Pacific Comics put it. I mean, that's the thing is there were so many great publishers back in the 80s Pacific first. I mean, you could keep going and going, you know, there was so many great comic books coming out. Yeah, Amazing creator, sorry, Comico. Neil Adams, Comico. You know, there. So many creators were launching their careers or in those indie books, they gotta really just do what they like, really put their heart and soul into those stories, you know. Whereas, you know, Marvel dc working on a monthly book is more of being a machine. You know, these. They probably took their time and just did it, right? But yeah, I mean, but the printing quality. Just because I worked as a graphic designer for so long too, that the printing quality is just amazing. When you think it's 1984, that you can see the different

tones, it's not flat colors, it's. It's. It's painted. So yeah, that's. So it's a cool one to find if you ever find it. It's not an expensive book. When you would consider the creators that are on it, you would Think it would be, but I mean, it's probably less than $8 to find it. 219 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:27.000 And if you find the first comic books in the bins and just come right over to the table at Grit City and tap me on the shoulder and say, dan, go right there. 220 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:28.000 Go right there. 221 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:33.000 And. And. And you go away, and I will grab and buy. 222 00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:36.000 And also, if you find any US Ones. 223 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:59.000 No, you don't need any us Ones. Owning number one and number three is enough. I don't need to own any more US One. Yeah. James, though, we were talking. I mean, if we did do a live podcast at Grit City ever, we might have to cover an episode issue of US One High Adventure Trucking. 224 00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.000 All right. 225 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:02.000 It could be a thing. 226 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:03.000 He just. 227 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:07.000 He just. He says no more. But yet he. He offers more. 228 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.000 Look, look. 229 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:15.000 I mean, using. Look, I. I think if I was. If I had a half robot brain. 230 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:16.000 Yeah. 231 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:25.000 And I was going to think of all the things I could possibly do it. Do it. Optimizing my trucking routes and learning to be the best trucker ever. 232 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:26.000 Yeah. 233 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.000 Would definitely be the way I would use my robot brain. 234 00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:32.000 You wouldn't go to the casino and play blackjack or. 235 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:40.000 No, I would not. I would become the best trucker ever. Right? That would be. And yeah, it's. 236 00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:52.000 But. But if you think about it, he's ahead of his time, though. I mean. Yes. That's, you know, that's his ways or Google Maps long before they ever existed. True. 237 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:53.000 Real talk. 238 00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:58.000 I mean, think about it. You used to have to use a Thomas guy driving across country, which I've done. 239 00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:59.000 Oh, yeah. 240 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:18.000 I have to. When I used to drive for stuff back in the day, it was. I had a Thomas Guide on the side of my. In my passenger seat. And I, like, knew every route around the. The Seattle metropolitan area. And it was like my wife's like, how do you know all these back roads? Thomas guide. 241 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I. Well, I went to college in Michigan, so driving. So I drove from Seattle to Michigan with the Thomas guide, you know, and it's. 242 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.000 I went to college. 243 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:31.000 Did I miss that exit? Okay. Yeah, you know. 244

00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:32.000 Oh, yeah. 245 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:32.000 It's hard. 246 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:37.000 Driving across country is like. Yeah, yeah. Anywhere you miss that exit yet or 247 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:38.000 am I there yet? 248 00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:50.000 Yeah, not just the Thomas guy, James, but my dad was in aaa, so when I drove to Arkansas to go to school, I got the flip thing from AAA where it flipped the map as you go. 249 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.000 Nice. Yeah, that's probably even better. 250 00:40:53.000 --> 00:41:12.000 Yeah, it was very nice. Well, and they even let you build stops along the way. And then they let you go places and so. Yeah, I mean, there's all sorts of. Anyway. Oh, the comic. We're gonna talk about a comic. Yeah. Okay, 41, 41 minutes, Greg. 251 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:19.000 41 minutes, everybody. Listeners, 41 minutes. We're getting to the content. 252 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.000 Well, we talked a lot of comic book stuff, though. 253 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:25.000 We did, we did talk a lot of comic books. But now we're getting to the. We're allowed. 254 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:27.000 I mean, honestly, we can talk about where we want. It's our box. 255 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:28.000 That's true. 256 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:35.000 We can do whatever we want. I, I do. I, I keep holding this book up because I really. 257 00:41:35.000 --> 00:42:18.000 Then I want to talk about chicken. Like the based pizza. When you got a, like a chicken based pizza that is like all chicken as the dough as opposed to like a, Because I'm gluten free, you know, so I can't do a lot of stuff. I, I can't do a regular wheat pizza, like a, like a flour dough. It's like chickpea or cauliflower or this chicken pizza. Now that's a lot of protein, Dan. You know, a lot about, like, you know, how much you should and shouldn't have. Is that too much, Dan? I mean, no, I mean, how many slices should you eat? 258 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:21.000 I mean, I don't have macros. 259 00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:22.000 A lot of protein. 260 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:26.000 How. How many slices did I eat? Too many of probably. 261 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:34.000 If you, if you had, I mean, if the chicken pizza, the chicken crust, you probably should not have very many pieces. 262 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.000 So the whole pizza was too many pieces. 263 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:38.000 Yeah, probably. 264 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:39.000 But it was delicious. 265 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:45.000 Yeah, that's. You may need to, you may need to venture off during the podcast. 266 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:50.000 I, I joke. I didn't eat the whole chicken pizza. I would never do that. That's a monster. 267 00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:51.000 That's a lot of protein. 268 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:58.000 So since you're gluten free. My daughter is too. She recently started making her cottage cheese crust. 269 00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:00.000 Oh, okay. 270 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:06.000 Yeah. And there's actually one frozen pizza that uses a chuck cottage cheese crust as well. 271 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.000 I might have to check this out 272 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:17.000 because she liked it. So I, I don't know because she's. Yeah. Trying to cut out carbs as much as possible anyway. So. Yeah, I made up. 273 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:23.000 I made a cauliflower crust once and it took me like two hours. And it was like eight inches and thin. 274 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:24.000 Right. 275 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:26.000 It tasted very good. Yeah. 276 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:27.000 No cauliflower. 277 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.000 And it was gone in like four 278 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:42.000 minutes between me and the roommates and everybody. All the housemates. Yeah. But, but then afterwards, like about 30 minutes later. 30 minutes later, maybe like an hour, I was fine. 279 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:44.000 It was Real? 280 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:49.000 Is everybody. Was it. No, I mean, like, what was the. What was the vibe of the house though, Dan? 281 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:52.000 It was fine. Little G. Nah. 282 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:53.000 No. 283 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.000 Are you sure? 284 00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:58.000 Cause no, it's r. Are you sure? Hamburger's fine. I'm sure. 285 00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:02.000 I sat down with a head of cauliflower at work one day. Oh, boy. It was a bad idea. 286 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.000 You just have a chat with it or what? 287 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:08.000 No, I sat down, start eating it like a monster. 288 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:16.000 Were you installing the head of cauliflower? Were you installing like the US one electronic brain into it? Exactly. If it would talk to you. 289 00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.000 I. I did. I tried to. And then I said I. 290 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:19.000 Forget it. 291 00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:20.000 This ranch is looking delicious. 292 00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:24.000 Carniferous. No, that's not right. 293 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:29.000 My cue mate looked at me like I was a. Like I was a full on monster eating this cauliflower. 294 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:34.000 Well, you are kind of a monster. You should just tell them to let you work from home. 295 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.000 Try. 296 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:42.000 I think that's. That's the best argument from work from home ever. Is just going to need a cauliflower every day. 297 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.000 And a cauliflower and a. In a. And a head of cabbage. 298 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.000 Yeah, yeah, that would be. 299 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:52.000 What are you doing? It's a diet. It's a choice, a lifestyle choice. 300 00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:55.000 It's affecting everyone. 301 00:44:55.000 --> 00:45:19.000 Well, James said we should read. Uncanny x men number 168. And I don't always remember what Uncanny X Men was.68 is because I first read it in this book. Side Note, this is 12 issues, so that

book. 17 bucks for 12 issues. That's pretty cool. 302 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:20.000 That's nice. 303 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:24.000 So I got 168 through 180 in here. That's a lot of, a lot of X Men. 304 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:25.000 Yeah. 305 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:49.000 This buttressed up against my friend Jen's books who I got to read. So I think that's why I got this whole set because I probably ended around where her book started because I remember she had Inferno and all that in her set. So we're getting around that time frame, I think because we're starting it in this. We're starting it with it. We're starting Inferno with this issue, are we not? In a way, inadvertently. 306 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:50.000 No way. You are. 307 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:50.000 Yeah. 308 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:51.000 Yeah. 309 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:55.000 At least the first appearance of someone. We've got two first appearances in here. 310 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:56.000 Yeah. 311 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:58.000 One is way more important than the other one. And I'm going to stress. 312 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:01.000 Yeah, this does build into all that. Oh my gosh. 313 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:02.000 Yeah. 314 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:09.000 It's been a minute since I like, I'm, I'm. I have the same book Dan has. It's just in a. In A in a box. 315 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.000 You know that Chris Claremont. Really? 316 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:23.000 Yeah, I just got original not too long ago. I got it at one of the shows, I don't know, a month or two ago. Yeah, I'm rebuilding my collection, so. Yeah. All right. 317 00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:26.000 Chris Claremont. Good at writing. 318 00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:28.000 Yes, yeah. 319 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.000 Good at plotting. 320 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:31.000 Yeah, yeah. 321 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:31.000 Now, do you. 322 00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:41.000 I almost think that Claremont's a better plotter than writer, which is. I mean, this is not to insult his writing. Writing. Very high plotting. 323 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:42.000 Yeah. 324 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:46.000 I mean, he could plan things out for years. 325 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:56.000 Yeah. I wonder if he did plan out. Do you think that that character for Inferno, you think he plotted it out? I doubt he plotted it out that far in advance. 326 00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:57.000 Oh, I'm sure. 327 00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.000 Oh, you think? 328 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:04.000 So the other question that is he plots out for a one shot story 329 00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:06.000 that's like 60 issues in between. Right. 330 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:19.000 So just like holding that idea and like waiting to just drop it. Like, just like, okay, you know, like start here and then just boom. 331 00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:23.000 Or did he just remember the character and brought her back maybe? 332 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:30.000 Or did he have to do it because they brought back X Factor? 333 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:33.000 Yeah, yeah. Because that's true. 334 00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:39.000 Wheezy and Walt were like, we're going to do this other book over here and we're going to use Jean, the original. 335 00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:43.000 Yeah, we're going to bring her back. 336 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:57.000 So you have to use this. Well, anyway. All right, so this book. We saw the COVID and this book opens with. This is why I knew as soon as I saw the book, I was like, oh, I know this book. 337 00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.000 I know you texted me as soon as, like, yeah. 338 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:12.000 Oh, it's weird to have the pages backwards. So that should be the very first page and then you flip to the next page. I wonder if that messes up the storytelling some because. 339 00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.000 Probably does mess it up a little 340 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:21.000 bit, you know, somewhere in there. Because you know when you're thinking about. When you're drawing a book, you're thinking about those two pages facing each other. 341 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.000 Oh, yeah. 342 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:32.000 And I've got. Or not. Well, and it's. You think she's probably talking to one of the X Men, but she's talking to Ileana too, so. 343 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:33.000 Right. 344 00:48:32.000 --> 00:49:08.000 It's. Yeah. This is an interesting time for Kitty Pryde because they launched New Mutants. And New Mutants was a. As much as I love it, it was a commercial failure. I think in relation to the rest of the X books, they wanted that to be the next takeoff book. Eventually. Eventually some people take it over. Like Liefeld. Liefeld. Sorry, Nisienza. Right. Was it nice that wrote it? 345 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.000 No. 346 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.000 Dick. Ca. 347 00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:15.000 Yep. Yes. 348 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:20.000 Yeah. So they take over the book later because sales are lagging, and so they take it away. They take the book away from Claremont. 349 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:21.000 Right. 350 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:28.000 And they go a different, complete, totally different direction. Yeah. And then you get X Force out of the book. 351 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:32.000 So in a fantastic movie later in the. In the. 352 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:42.000 Oh, shut up. We waited five years. Yeah. It was terrible. 353 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:43.000 Disappointing. 354 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:52.000 I wanted. Yeah. I'm not supposed to see here. Now I've started cussing. You bring up that movie. That is the way to get me going. 355 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:53.000 We had. 356 00:49:53.000 --> 00:50:05.000 I wanted that movie to be good. The way they did Ileana in X Men 97, even though they murder her, was better than they do her in the Newton's movie. 357 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:27.000 Not to bring the podcast down, but my mom was so excited for that movie. And then I was, well, no. And then, you know, the movie doesn't come out. Doesn't

come out. Doesn't come out. My mom passes away and then the movie comes out. And I was like, I'm glad she didn't get to watch this because. Because, like, she. I mean, like, growing up, I mean, we read a lot of stuff together. Like, she's like, oh, you like this stuff? 358 00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:28.000 All right, cool. 359 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:49.000 You know, like, you know, your dad. These are dad books and stuff. And then she'd pick up some things and, oh, I like this book. You know, so she'd give me, you know, other stuff and then, you know. But this is like, you know, that. That was something that she was. She was into. So she was like, oh, yeah, you. This is going to be a great movie. This is going to be awesome. I'm glad she didn't get to watch it. 360 00:50:49.000 --> 00:51:07.000 See, I think New Mutants would have been a good TV series because then, you know, because they're young and then build the characters. Right. Yeah. And while Edwin stays at the movies, you could have that kind of, you know, kind of like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. even though they aren't linked with the MCU, it's still N. Kind of attached. 361 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:08.000 Yeah. 362 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:11.000 We only do that with Runaways runways. 363 00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:12.000 Yeah. 364 00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:12.000 Yeah. 365 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:18.000 That was almost. Yeah, yeah, that was. That's along those lines. Yeah. The. 366 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:46.000 Yeah. Well, this is a. This is one of my favorite kind of books. We've talked about these on the podcast before. These are these. Claremont did them really well. Paul Levitz did them really well. I think that Mark Wolfman did them really well. These are these in between storybooks that kind of. They wrap up things. And we had one. Another one. We were going to release Greg and then Computo ate it. 367 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:47.000 Oh, yeah. 368 00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:48.000 Oh. 369 00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:56.000 So we had a Future one with another guest where we were covering the mall issue, where all the women go to the mall and they find Jubilee. 370 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:58.000 Oh, Jubilee. Yeah. 371 00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:04.000 And so, same kind of idea, Right? That was right after Inferno. So Inferno. So that's future of this. 372 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:05.000 Right. 373 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:22.000 That happens. And then they have a couple of breathing issues. Right. And this is one of those breathing issues here. We're between things that happened. So the last part of the story, I believe, was Vampires. X Men Annual 6. 374 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:23.000 Okay. 375 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:30.000 And then previous to that, we had them coming back from dealing with outer space stuff. Right? 376 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:37.000 Yeah, yeah. The. What was it the Brood? Right, yeah. Was that who they were going. Yeah, yeah. 377 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:41.000 Ah, the Brood. The Brood. Gross. 378 00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:42.000 I. 379 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:48.000 You know, I will tell you, if they'd had one of the people in this. This issue to fight the Brood, the Brood wouldn't have been a problem. 380 00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.000 It's true. 381 00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:58.000 It's just like, if Jonesy had done his job and they, you know, alien would have ended and. 382 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:00.000 Yeah, yeah. 383 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:06.000 Like, it's. That. That would have been fine. But by the way, Brett Wadelli has a great art piece. 384 00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:07.000 Ah, yes. 385 00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:10.000 On that theme, if you. Nobody knows Jonesy. 386 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:11.000 Yeah, yeah. 387 00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:13.000 Holding the alien, like. 388 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:14.000 Yeah. 389 00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:15.000 Eating it. 390 00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:16.000 Yeah, I know the piece. 391 00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.000 Anyway. 392 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:32.000 Ileana. And. And, like, so this is a weird time because Kitty Pryde shows up in the first. I was making a point, I promise. In the first few issues of New Mutants and then just kind of disappears. Right. 393 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:33.000 Well, she phased. 394 00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:34.000 Right. 395 00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:34.000 She just phased out. 396 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:35.000 She just. 397 00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:36.000 Yeah. 398 00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:38.000 Went through the wall. 399 00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:44.000 Yeah. She walked upstairs and phased out the house like that girl on Family Matters. 400 00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.000 Okay. 401 00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:48.000 Yeah, the middle sister. 402 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:54.000 Yeah. Just left forever. Right. Phased. Right. That's. Now we know what happened. Now we know her power set. 403 00:53:54.000 --> 00:54:02.000 Oh, my gosh. She's had Professor Xavier School for Gifted Children all along. Damn. 404 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:19.000 And I don't think it was a popular decision to move Kitty in here. And that's one of the ones that you're at, you know, Now. Now we get to. Now we get to wonder, did Claremont plot this or did he do a pivot based on fan response and bring Kitty back to the X Men? 405 00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:26.000 I have a feeling that Kitty was put into the New Mutants because she was a little bit more established character. 406 00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:27.000 Yeah. 407 00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:40.000 You know, and to help sell that book and then. Yeah. Pivot to bring her back out, you know, so that probably was along the lines, I would think, the whole time. But. Or maybe then, you know. 408 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:57.000 But she is ranting harder than I rant about anything about how unfair it was that she's been put with the X Babies reading this book I had, I knew who Kitty Pride was. Right. But I didn't have a lot of exposure to Kitty Pride. I'm gonna tell you, this book did not make me like Kitty

Pryde. 409 00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:04.000 She's a teenage girl, a dance girl. Well, she's upset. 410 00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:55.000 Yeah. I felt like she spent most of the issue making Professor X's argument for him. But the, we, we turned the page and we get, I, this is the, we get the first appearance. Well, it's the second appearance. But the first appearance when he gets a name of one little dragon that's going to make it with Kitty, that's going to hang out with Kitty Pryde for a long, long time. All the way through Excalibur. Yeah. And so we get these little alien eyes and he's just get some narration. It's some narrations like by alien eyes. He hasn't been here long. He hates the weather and the hunting has been poor and he decides that's about to change. We don't know what it is yet, but it's already adorable. 411 00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:56.000 So. 412 00:55:55.000 --> 00:56:02.000 Paul Smith, people can criticize you, but you drew Lockheed for the first time. I'm just going to spoil it. So. 413 00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:04.000 But how could you do that? 414 00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:05.000 Lockheed is here. 415 00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:31.000 I, I love Lockheed. And you know, Dave said this one might be boring for the podcast. I disagree because we have, maybe the comic would be boring if we read it word for word. But there are so many threads here that we get to talk about. Yes, of course. One of them is Australian Wolverine getting ready to go into the, in, into the Canadian wilderness. 416 00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:34.000 Yeah, yeah. Out west. Going out west. Yes. 417 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:35.000 He's growing out. 418 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:51.000 Well, I, I, and I think some of that is because he's so sad about Jean Gray dying, you know, so, you know, they're still pulling from 30 issues ago, you know, some of those emotions because they do bring her up a few times in here, you know, 419 00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:53.000 and it's been non stop for them. Right. 420 00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:54.000 So. Right. 421 00:56:53.000 --> 00:57:05.000 They've just been going from thing to thing to thing and romping through outer space and you know, he needs a break. Of course, Rovery never goes off on his own and never does. 422 00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:10.000 Yeah, he needs a dose, you know. Yeah, it's. 423 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:18.000 But they do have a fight. Yeah, yeah, they do have a fight here about how Charles Xavier is treating Kitty Pride. 424 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:19.000 Right. 425 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:47.000 And they're both like, yeah, you know, she's. And I think Wolverine makes a pretty poor argument that they used to send 12 year olds off to war. Nightcrawler calls him out on this and says, you know, that's probably not a good thing. But their point is made. Kitty Pride's been in X Men. Why is she moving to the New Mutants? That doesn't make much sense. It's also interesting, too. Oh, sorry, James. 426 00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:59.000 No, you could say that she. He moved her down there because maybe a leadership role with the New Mutants, which. I'm surprised they didn't mention that at all, because she does have that X Men experience. Yeah, that makes sense. 427 00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:04.000 She could be, like, the leader of the New Mutant. She has the conch, right. 428 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:18.000 I guess she's done some of this. I don't know. Even though, you know, her powers aren't exactly, you know, they're just going through walls or whatever, but, you know, it's not like cannibal, you know, who, of course, was the leader of the New Mutants. I guess so. 429 00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:21.000 Yeah. And that worked out well. 430 00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:22.000 Yeah, that's true. 431 00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:32.000 And I mean, he's immortal, man. Anyway. God. Yeah, that storyline was great. 432 00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:35.000 So 433 00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:42.000 we flipped a page and we find out that Charles Xavier has been given new legs. That's really cool. 434 00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:45.000 No, no, he's a clone body. 435 00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:46.000 Oh, he's a even. 436 00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:51.000 It's a clone body. His brain got moved into the clone body. 437 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:54.000 Sweet. You know how I love clones. Yeah. 438 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:57.000 Yes. And we'll get to clones later in this issue, too. 439 00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:07.000 So does this mean, like, 20 issues later, this is going to be like Ben Reilly, but then. Is that how that works? 440 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.000 I don't know. 441 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:21.000 And then he's gonna wear a Scarlet Xavier, so he'll be Scarlet Xavier, and then Real Xavier will come back. Is that. 442 00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:24.000 He's gonna have to rate some more X Men to find out. 443 00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:48.000 Yeah, a little. Little Clone Saga humor. Notice nobody's laughing because the Clone Saga wasn't funny. So the. He's trying to learn to walk, but his brain is still thinks that he can't walk. So when he tries to walk, he's dealing with this. And Landra is there. And I don't know, how do we explain the Landra in, like, three sentences? 444 00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:50.000 Alien girlfriend. 445 00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:51.000 Okay, sure. 446 00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.000 Alien girlfriend. 447 00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:56.000 And a queen. Queen alien. Right. She's a queen, isn't she? 448 00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.000 Yeah. 449 00:59:57.000 --> 01:00:00.000 Yes, Queen. Yeah. 450 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:11.000 And her sister is Death Bird, and she runs a giant outer space thing. The SHI Are, right? 451 01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:12.000 Yes. 452 01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:34.000 Yeah. And it's kind of like. It's kind of like if you were reading comics, like, say, right now as well, you would go to the other comic. Say, let's say we call it Uncanny Titans. 453 01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.000 Okay. 454 01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:52.000 And you'd be

reading about Starfire, and Blackfire runs Tamaran in Outer space. Where they have to go to outer space and like deal with these things. Yeah. Nothing similar at all. 455 01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:53.000 Nothing. 456 01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:56.000 No, no, no. 457 01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:00.000 So if you're reading a different company's book, you might be reading something really similar. 458 01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:02.000 Why would they do such a thing 459 01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:08.000 around the same time? Also, I believe these were both the best selling books at the two companies at the time. 460 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:11.000 Oh, wow. Was Teen Titans the best selling them? 461 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:15.000 Teen Titans was the number one book in 82 and 83 and I believe 84. 462 01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:16.000 Oh wow. 463 01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:21.000 Teen Titans was number one until they took it direct sale only. 464 01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:22.000 Okay. 465 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:27.000 Which was a bold strategy to take your number one selling book and make it direct sales only. 466 01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.000 That is. Yeah. 467 01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:30.000 Yeah. 468 01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:31.000 Interesting. 469 01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:32.000 That's a bold strategy. 470 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:36.000 I didn't realize that you want to. I wasn't a PC guy, so. Yeah. 471 01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:59.000 Want to make it even more fun? Legion was the number two book in 82 and 83 and they took it direct sale only as well. So they took their top two books and make it direct sale only. You will notice Marvel did not take their best selling books and make them direct sale only. And they left them on the stand for people to buy at comic shops or on the stand wherever they wanted to buy their books. 472 01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:02.000 Where everything stores. Every spinner racks. Yeah. 473 01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:04.000 Yep. 75 cents, baby. 474 01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:07.000 7 11. 475 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:12.000 Ride that bike down 1 52nd to the 7 11. Put those books in a bag and bring them home. Greg. 476 01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:15.000 Yeah, that's what I did every week. 477 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:16.000 That's what I did. Yeah. 478 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:18.000 And if you made it. 479 01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:23.000 Until I found the first, my first comic book store, I wasn't allowed to 480 01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:29.000 go downtown by myself until I met Dan. 481 01:02:29.000 --> 01:03:04.000 And then my mom was like, well, I went to. And we've told this a lot on the podcast, but I went to o' Leary's Books in Tacoma when Legion went direct sale only. So it had reprints for a year that you could get off the spinner rock. So all the direct sale books had reprints for a year. But then they stopped the reprints and I went to my dad and I'm like, I can't buy my favorite comic book anymore. So I would call the store once a month and be like, is Legion of Superheroes number in?

And they would say yes or no. And then I'd be like, can you drive me to the comic book store? Yes. But then he always act like it was a burden, but he'd go like, look at the records and look at the magazines. 482 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:07.000 Look at all everything else. 483 01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:08.000 Because it's a store. 484 01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:35.000 Yeah. So it wasn't much, but yeah. I hear you could obviously, I think obviously sales, sales speak for themselves. X Men continuing being a top selling book through the 80s. You know, it's interesting because we're doing the Marvel book now, so now we have the time to contrast it. Right. Like the strategy of not taking these direct sale only obviously was extremely successful. You don't take your top books and make them direct sale only. That's just a, well, crazy business mistake. 485 01:03:35.000 --> 01:04:02.000 It's not even just the fact that they were able to like increase their sales by not having them, by, by having them on every possible space, but they were able to maximize that by spreading out and, and expanding the brand by opening other venue. You know, venues, if you will, creating other storylines and other books. So it just, it just proves that if you make it accessible, you can market more. 486 01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:03.000 Yep. 487 01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:07.000 And they. Yeah. And you want those things out there. So when you're looking at. 488 01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:09.000 And then it was quality too, you know. 489 01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:10.000 Yeah. 490 01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:14.000 Good stories. 491 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:44.000 You all both make a good point too. High quality. And they're able to expand the brand. Right. Where there's one Titans book. Titans did expand a little bit because they had like Titan Spotlight when they had the two books. When they had the two books. When they had the two books when it was direct sale, they had the Deathstroke and Tara storyline going in, in the. The news handbook. So I mean, they did. Even though that storyline is reprehensible now. So I don't know if that's the best one to bring up. 492 01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:45.000 It's not. 493 01:04:45.000 --> 01:05:00.000 Yeah, can like that and well, that's the thing about the show. It's like, I mean, you take a look back at the old times and you're like that. It might have been an interesting story at the time, but considering how much we've evolved as people, I, I think 494 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.000 it was not great then. 495 01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:17.000 No, no, no. Yeah. No, but I mean like in our mindsets, right. As, as, as people, as readers, you know, or just like looking back at it, we're like, I, I don't think I'd pick that up. Even if it was the only thing available, I wouldn't pick it up. 496 01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:36.000 Well, the thing was, it was extremely popular because it was like a mystery story. Right. And so, you know, people are reading the mystery, they're not

thinking about the end part of the mystery. Right. Yeah. So you don't get the. So they're picking it up because you're not getting the, you're not finding out that they're presumably like together until the end of the story. Right. 497 01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:37.000 Maybe. 498 01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:54.000 But the Beginning of the story, she's just spying on the Teen Titans, right? And she's talking to somebody. And it's not till later she starts smoking cigarettes. Because that's the best way to become a bad guy is to smoke cigarettes or show up in the Keebler elves Teen Titans against Drugs issue. 499 01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:55.000 So that's. 500 01:05:55.000 --> 01:06:00.000 Yeah, but which we have covered on this podcast, by the way. 501 01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:03.000 Yes, 502 01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:07.000 well, it wasn't Keebler elves, but, yeah, the protector instead of Robin, because that was. 503 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:08.000 I'm pretty chancer. 504 01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:10.000 They didn't have the licensing to Robin and. 505 01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:14.000 Dan, will you. Will you cosplay as a protector for me? 506 01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:18.000 No. Please, please, please. I don't think anybody wants that. 507 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:24.000 Listeners, if you want Dan to cosplay as a protector, please write in. 508 01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:25.000 Send your. 509 01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:30.000 Send your likes to this episode. Tell us that you want Dan to cosplay as a protector. 510 01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:32.000 You want me to cosplay as a 511 01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:36.000 teenage boy at Grit City Comic show? 512 01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.000 There you go, James. 513 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:42.000 Teenage boy at your. At your comic show. 514 01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:43.000 Why not? 515 01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:48.000 We would love it. 516 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:58.000 I would be curious how many people would identify you as. As that guy, as the protector. I mean, how many people remember the protector? No, how many. 517 01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:04.000 How many times do people have boof babes at their table? But I could have a booth. 518 01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:05.000 Booth babes. 519 01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:07.000 Yeah, but I would have a. 520 01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:08.000 Yes. What. 521 01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:11.000 What I have. I'd have a booth. 522 01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:13.000 Are those the booths I go away from? Is that why. 523 01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:19.000 I know, but I'd have something different to offer. I'd have a booth beefcake. 524 01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:23.000 Oh, well, admittedly, I would be drawn more to the table with the booth. 525 01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:24.000 Booth. 526 01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:28.000 Booth beef. Can I say booth beefcake cake. Yes. 527 01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.000 See, There you go. See? 528 01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:32.000 Yeah, There you go. Yeah. 529 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:33.000 So. 530 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:33.000 Yeah. 531 01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:38.000 See, Listeners, do you want to see? I. I think. I think the. 532 01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:39.000 The listeners. 533 01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:46.000 Viewers out there, they want to see this. I mean, you're already dressing up as. As. As. 534 01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:49.000 Who are you dressing up as for your birthday? 535 01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:51.000 I don't know. I don't think I'm gonna make the weight, so. 536 01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:52.000 Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. 537 01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:58.000 That's a little skin tight. Well, if I. If I. If I don't lose the weight, I'll just wear a suit. 538 01:07:58.000 --> 01:07:59.000 Oh, I see. 539 01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:02.000 Oh, like James, my costumes are real easy. 540 01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:04.000 Okay. Yeah. 541 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:11.000 I mean, I just have to put on a suit and a tie. It's not hard. 542 01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:12.000 No, no. 543 01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:15.000 Yeah, well, or you could put on 544 01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:17.000 weight and be the kingpin. 545 01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:20.000 That's true. I have to smash people. 546 01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:32.000 You're the kingpin on, like, Manjaro. 547 01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:33.000 Me? 548 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:43.000 It's me he wants. Well, still in pain. 549 01:08:43.000 --> 01:09:11.000 Well, speaking of X Men 168, We, Kitty Pride and Ilana are at Stevie Hunter's dance studio. Doesn't Stevie Hunter get powers later on? Come and say for sure, like, way later on. 550 01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:14.000 It seems like it. Why would you introduce the character otherwise? 551 01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:18.000 I. I want to say she does, but I can't remember for sure. 552 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:19.000 100. 553 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:33.000 And this is. And this is me. Like, honestly, like, I did a. I did. I personally did. Back during. During the dark times of the 2000s. I did a. A total, like. Okay, I'm gonna jump back into all this stuff. 554 01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:34.000 And I. 555 01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:35.000 And I did a. 556 01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:36.000 Before. 557 01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:49.000 I think it was, like, right when we started doing the show for this series and stuff. I was like, I'm going back into the old books. And I can't remember, was it. 558 01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:51.000 You know what? Here I gotta be like. 559 01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:57.000 It's got to be like. It's got to be like, 40 issues away. Is it 40 issues away? 560 01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:04.000 I see. It's something around. There's something to do with the Shadow King later. 561 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:05.000 Okay, but it's like. 562 01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:08.000 Is that like 30 superpowers? 563 01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:09.000 But it's. 564 01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:12.000 No, but she's a congress woman. 565 01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:16.000 Ah, that's how. Okay. That's how we get there. 566 01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:22.000 That's a superpower in itself.

Yeah, but how many issues away is it? 567 01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:23.000 She kind of sticks around for a while. 568 01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:25.000 Yeah, but I mean, like, she always 569 01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.000 think God loves man kills as well. 570 01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:30.000 Ah, that's where I've. Okay. 571 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:35.000 That's where I've also run into Jake. She was in there for a while. She's. 572 01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:41.000 She's a pretty like a. Like, I want to say, like a 573 01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:44.000 she is to X Men as Rick Jones is to the Hulk. 574 01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:45.000 Oh, my. 575 01:10:45.000 --> 01:11:09.000 There for 10 years and then disappears forever. That's. Okay, well, anyway, Stevie Hunter is giving the young women some guidance and helps them. Helps Kitty decide to confront Charles Xavier and let him know that she should be an X Men. 576 01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:15.000 Or give him a compelling reason why. Yes, yes. 577 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:27.000 We get a page of fanboy love where Storm is walking around naked, but then her powers stop working, and then she's scared. 578 01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:29.000 Did she not pay the. Pay the bill? 579 01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:32.000 Correct. She did not pay the storm bill. Yeah. 580 01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:43.000 That was no electricity. Yep. Yeah. So this must be, like, the beginning of her losing her powers and that storyline. 581 01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:53.000 Yeah. Something about, like, saying something about a toad getting hit by lightning or something and. And terrible jokes caused her loser powers. 582 01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:55.000 It was awful. 583 01:11:55.000 --> 01:12:03.000 Then we flip the page, and we get to see Kitty Pride's attempt to dis. To persuade Professor Xavier which. 584 01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:05.000 It's a really fun little vignette. 585 01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:06.000 I love this grid. 586 01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:07.000 Yeah. 587 01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:09.000 She tries. She beats him in chess. 588 01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:10.000 Yeah. 589 01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:27.000 Prove how smart she is. And then she tries to debate with him. And then she decides to be cooperative. Like clean her. Clean the danger room or something. It looks like better than cleaning your room. It's like cleaning the danger room. 590 01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:28.000 So dangerous. 591 01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:42.000 And then she tries some flattery. And nothing. Nothing is quite working yet. And then we flip the page and he shows up 592 01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:46.000 everyone's favorite X Men. 593 01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:48.000 No one's favorite X Men. 594 01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:55.000 I. I like him, Dan. I think he's a class act and a. A well rounded guy. 595 01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:59.000 You can't have the earth. Yeah. 596 01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.000 Without this guy. 597 01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:02.000 That's her. Yep. 598 01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:07.000 X Men. The X Men most likely to create Epstein Island. 599 01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:09.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 600 01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:11.000 Are you sure? 601 01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:13.000 Yes. 602 01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:16.000 I mean, 603 01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:21.000 he'd invite the Hellfire Club in his mind. 604 01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:24.000 That was only one time, Dan. It was Exit. 605 01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:27.000 He didn't. That's right. 606 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:33.000 You Grant Morrison. Okay, so 607 01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:35.000 when 608 01:13:35.000 --> 01:14:06.000 I, I. Because I haven't read the issues before this and I have these 12 issues. But he pivots away from this woman very quickly. I have no idea how this woman fits into the story at all. He apparently goes to the boats to meet some woman working on a boat. She rapidly changes her clothes and is now wearing half a shirt. Some more Fanboy service here by Mr. Paul Smith. How affair. 609 01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:11.000 Well, they are on a beach in Florida. They're not dressed in. Fully clothed. 610 01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:19.000 Well, why is Scott wearing all these clothes then? Right? Like, how come I don't get my fan service? 611 01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:23.000 He should be without a shirt on at the very least. Yeah. 612 01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:29.000 Greg read the 82 Legion books with me when they were playing. When they were playing volleyball, the boys weren't wearing any clothes either. Right, Greg? 613 01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:37.000 That's true. They weren't. They were wearing. They're wearing like it was. It was no tops and very little shorts. 614 01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:38.000 Yeah. Kiss. 615 01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:39.000 So Top Gun. 616 01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:41.000 Top Gun. Yeah. 617 01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:42.000 Volleyball scene. 618 01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:43.000 Yeah. Yeah. 619 01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:44.000 That works. 620 01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:45.000 I like that. 621 01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:46.000 Yeah. 622 01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:47.000 Yeah. 623 01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:47.000 Scott can do it. 624 01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:49.000 Except I have to see Tom Cruise. 625 01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:53.000 But I mean, Scott's Tom Cruise. 626 01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:59.000 Scott is. He's Cruise. If he was. If he was four. A foot taller. Yeah. 627 01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:03.000 But he is the Tom Cruise of the X Men. Think about it. Think about it. 628 01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:05.000 Everybody hates him. 629 01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:09.000 He's always smiling. You don't know why he's. 630 01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:12.000 You never know why he's the leader because he's Lady. 631 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:20.000 The lady. The lady. The lady wants you to see his new movie that nobody wants to watch, but it might actually be good. 632 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:25.000 Travis Webber Your ears burning, by the way? Right now? 633 01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.000 They are. He just dialed again. 634 01:15:27.000 -->

01:15:28.000 Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. 635 01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:29.000 It was. 636 01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:29.000 He just texted. 637 01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:30.000 It was a butt dial. He's. Sorry. 638 01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:31.000 He's. He. 639 01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:36.000 He's literally the only person in the entire world that likes Cyclops. He. 640 01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:42.000 He loves Cyclops, which, I mean, it's associates with Cyclops. He also invited the Hellfire. 641 01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.000 I disassociate with Cyclops. 642 01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:47.000 Disassoci. 643 01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:53.000 That's how Kitty Pride got her power is so she could fade through walls to get away from him. 644 01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.000 I need to get away from this guy. 645 01:15:55.000 --> 01:16:31.000 Yeah, he's like. I mean, besides. So it's either like, one you've got, like, you know, if you are. So to be fair, I did mention the disgusting nature of a Teen Titan storyline. So if you were a teenage girl who looks at you first, Wolverine or Cyclops. Yeah, that awkward moment brought to you by that comment. Not everything in the X Men was on the up and up with the good writing either. 646 01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:39.000 You know, at times, I, I'm, I, I, I'm. I agree. You're probably right. 647 01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:46.000 Cyclops, between those two. Yeah, between those two. Lorraine is quite older, you know, but it's. 648 01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:47.000 And he's gonna be. 649 01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.000 It's a close battle there. 650 01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:50.000 He protect. He attack. 651 01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:51.000 Yeah, he attacked. 652 01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:53.000 He protect. 653 01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:57.000 Cyclops does like to go from lady to lady, though. That is he. 654 01:16:57.000 --> 01:16:58.000 It is. 655 01:16:58.000 --> 01:16:59.000 He. 656 01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:01.000 Well, he's a tall, handsome man. 657 01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:04.000 I think he's just not confident in himself. 658 01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:09.000 He doesn't. Well, he can't look in the mirror and see himself. That's the problem. 659 01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:20.000 Well, we've all met those people that are real. I mean, again, I, I, you know, to. To each their own. But we've all met folks that are completely reliant on companionship. Right? 660 01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:21.000 Yeah. 661 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:51.000 Right. You have to go from one companion to another. If a relationship ends, it is like the end of the world for them to be alone for six months. They've got to immediately go find another companion. Right. Look, probably better than. What I do is not. Is live in my basement and hang out with no one. So that's. I mean, I'm not comic books. Right. And comic books are. And I have my dog. Right. That's like. I want to be clear, that's not a critique of the folks that do that, but it is a critique of Cyclops because he's a jerk. 662 01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:59.000 To. Well, I mean, so it should say at the beginning, instead of professor Xavier is a jerk. Cyclops is a jerk. 663 01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:04.000 Is that given? I mean, we have multiple episodes titled Cyclops is a jerk. So it's true. 664 01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:05.000 It's true. 665 01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:16.000 It's. You know, that's. It's. It's very. Well, anyway, we flip to one of my other favorite characters from the 80s that. That got written out of the story eventually. Amanda Se. In. 666 01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:17.000 Yeah. 667 01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:29.000 Didn't she become, like, a demon or something? Every's like, we need to. We all need to phone our X Men friends. Okay, I'll quit looking up every character in this. 668 01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:32.000 Phone an X Men friend. 669 01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:37.000 He became a dick. Became a. She became a demon. I was something. I was. 670 01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:40.000 I was right. Yeah. A sorceress. Yeah. 671 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:41.000 Bam. 672 01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:42.000 I. I was. 673 01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:43.000 I was not wrong. 674 01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:46.000 I don't remember that, though. But yeah. 675 01:18:46.000 --> 01:19:00.000 Anyway, we get a. She comes home from her flight attendant job. See, I did remember that one. So it comes home from her sexy flight attendant job to a very sexy high button neck. Yeah. 676 01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:01.000 Thing. 677 01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:03.000 I mean, it's a classy. She's very classy. 678 01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.000 It was different back in the day for the flight attendants. 679 01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:07.000 Like, she's gonna sit down and play the piano. 680 01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:10.000 What? Mid-80s? Yeah, early mid-80s. 681 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:12.000 So when you got full meals on the flights for free. 682 01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:13.000 Holy crap. 683 01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:15.000 I know. 684 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:17.000 Not looking forward to next week before 685 01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:33.000 the doors fall off of airplanes. You know, like, it's. It's. It's so. It's. Yeah. And so. And again, I mean, that Nightcrawler's Choice there, but he seems to be wearing a lot of clothing for meeting his girlfriend there. 686 01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:37.000 Well, I mean, laying on the couch like that. 687 01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:38.000 Yeah, yeah. 688 01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:39.000 He's in the reaper position. 689 01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:45.000 He's ready to do what? Like, you know, set up for a photo like that. 690 01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:48.000 I just thought they were kind of doing the whole bearskin rug thing. 691 01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:49.000 Well, yeah, that's. 692 01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:51.000 It's that. It's that time period. 693 01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:56.000 Sears photo, reaper position. He's ready to. He's. He's showing you. 694 01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:57.000 He's. 695 01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:58.000 He's. He's like. 696

01:19:58.000 --> 01:19:59.000 No, no. 697 01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:02.000 Reynolds position. That's what he's doing. 698 01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:11.000 Well, no, but my dad did the same thing at Sears. 699 01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:22.000 Okay, well, I hate Kitty Pride more because she's got a complete Rubik's Cube next to her. 700 01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:24.000 Because you can't complete one. 701 01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:25.000 I cannot. 702 01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:26.000 I know. 703 01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.000 A Rubik's Cube. It seems like there's too many little squares on. 704 01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.000 There's extra squares. She's got one of the extra big ones. 705 01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:34.000 There are. So it's a tougher one. 706 01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:37.000 Yeah, definitely. Dan couldn't do that. 707 01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:38.000 No. 708 01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:41.000 Paul, Dyslexia and Rubik's Cubes don't go well together. 709 01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:42.000 Paul could do it. 710 01:20:42.000 --> 01:21:04.000 No, Now. Yes, now. If you were curious now, Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul. Now if you were needing some legal assistance and you needed somebody to tap out your, you know, opposition and you needed somebody that could complete a Rubik's Cube, you should call Paul because that would be, that would be the person like that. Oh, yeah, absolutely. He could. He, he can do Ruby's Cube. In fact, he can do them very fast. 711 01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:15.000 I've watched him. It's. It's freakish how fast he can do it. He can, he can just sit there and you're sitting there talking to him and he's like, 712 01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:41.000 you got another one. And James, if you have, if you know anybody that needs some like, gets into some trouble with their employer or something and it's terrible, they could call Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul. They could also train with him at, at 27th and Jackson, slash Bridgeport here in Tacoma at Certified Martial Arts. Go inside and see the really very, very cool Dragon Ball Z murals on the wall. 713 01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:44.000 They are at a Jiu Jitsu. 714 01:21:44.000 --> 01:22:00.000 Yeah, it's pretty cool. Or if you show up at. I shouldn't say this out loud, but if you show up at 11 o' clock on a Saturday, you'll see me lifting 200 pound sandbags and carrying them around the gym. If anybody ever wants to come join in on that, it's really fun. 715 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:11.000 Everyone in the state of Washington or Oregon because you can just drive on up on a Saturday at 11am, go watch Dan lift sandbags. 716 01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:13.000 You can lift them with me and that's fine. 717 01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:16.000 Dance sandbags. 718 01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:18.000 Or you can motivate them by yelling at me. 719 01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:19.000 Yeah. 720 01:22:19.000 --> 01:23:18.000 Oh, I'm not at them. You can motivate me by yelling at me. You like to train or just be sad and hide? Uh, not too good with that kind of training anyway. I, if you do, if you do have a. SO license in Washington and California, if you do have a problem like that, just call Paul, 253-656-4475. You'll talk to the wonderful Kelly. She'll get you an appointment. And if you have a problem Paul can't take care of, he can happily refer you to somebody else. But as we talked about on the show last week, we've spent an inordinate of time talking about debt and stuff at the end of the podcast. I'm not sure why, but it was probably. I left it all in because I think it was actually probably helpful to people. It's good, like how to not handle debt collectors without a lawyer and Things like that. But yeah, I mean you should definitely, I'll say from last show, freeze your credit. But besides that, if you're in some sort of legal trouble, don't ignore it. Reach out, get some help and pay a lot less in the beginning to take care of it than you will later. 721 01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:19.000 That's right. 722 01:23:19.000 --> 01:24:07.000 By pretending like it didn't happen. So, so, but yeah, reach out to Paul and he will help you out. So back to the comic. We do have Kitty Pryde doing everything I did as a kid. Actually, this is, this is where it's not a joke. I wasn't doing a ton of programming, but as Greg knows, I had a computer in my house before. We had a microwave or a VCR because my dad took a correspondence course and we had a TRS 80 model 3 with a tape drive and then a floppy drive and later an external hard drive. And then we got another computer that ran dos and we even had a laptop. When I was a teenager because my dad had one, I used to steal it and take it to my room. 723 01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:08.000 How heavy was that? 724 01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:41.000 Oh, it was, it was, it was, it was heavy. It didn't last very long and. But yeah, back in. But this computer is hooked up to their internal network here because this is back in the day when you either hooked up to an internal network or you dialed on a bulletin board system one phone number at a time and made your move in the, in the game and then logged off and waited an hour and called back if the number wasn't busy, hoping to get to make the next move on whatever you're doing and do it again or leave 725 01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:47.000 a message or you know, you can still get on BBS's now. They're still alive. 726 01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:49.000 They're still around. 727 01:24:49.000 --> 01:25:14.000 Yeah, well, like they, they people have been recreating them and hosting them on, on various services. But you can like, so it's not a dial in, but you can still get like you can get onto various BBSs and still play the classic games and talk to people like mudding. Oh my goodness. Mudding. 728 01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:21.000 Well, there you go. Well, we're not mudding here. But she does use the computer to discover that there's some life form down in the tubes. 729 01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:22.000 Oh my. 730 01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:33.000 In the tools. Yeah.

So she goes down to check it out and she finds that something's been chewing on a cable. I'm can't. And she does. Not on cable. On a cable. 731 01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:36.000 Oh, okay. 732 01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:51.000 And too early for that. Yeah, too early for that. We're not there. They look. We're introducing his mom this issue. Chill out. We're not even there yet. We're working there. We're getting there. 733 01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:54.000 Van. They really do these setups really good. 734 01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:59.000 They do a cable. We know his name already. My light went out. I lost the light. 735 01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:03.000 So maybe Claremont was involved with creating cable here and also. 736 01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:05.000 Ah, that's a good point. 737 01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:06.000 Wow. 738 01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:08.000 I just lost half my lights, everyone. 739 01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:09.000 That's crazy. 740 01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:34.000 I don't know what happened here. Well, it was cable, but she's being super responsible and talking to Professor X because she wants to get back in his good graces. Right? And then Lockheed falls out of a shaft and hooks himself around her neck like he has done forever. Because he's hiding from these things. Oh, my God. 741 01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:37.000 These are big, bad Beetleborgs. 742 01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:39.000 Sidrian hunters. 743 01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:41.000 Oh, okay. Sidrian hunters. 744 01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:43.000 I think he was hunting them. 745 01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:48.000 Oh, is he hunting them or is he hiding from them? I think he was, because he was talking earlier. 746 01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:50.000 He was hunting. Oh, okay. 747 01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:55.000 You could be hunting and hiding at the same time. Because sometimes hunters hide. 748 01:26:55.000 --> 01:27:06.000 That's true. Well, they get in a big fight. Is that affair? And she's getting hit, and she tries to phase, but it doesn't work. 749 01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:07.000 Her face. 750 01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:12.000 Yeah, her powers are gone. 751 01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:19.000 Face plants. So she's fighting with her wolverine fighting techniques. 752 01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:23.000 Yes, yes. What he taught her. 753 01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:38.000 And. Yep. And he had. She knocks, takes out two of them, is doing really well. But then she fades out for a second, and Lockheed's shooting them with lightning, which is super cool. 754 01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:40.000 Lightning fire, Something like that. 755 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:51.000 Yeah. And navy fire. I always wonder, was it fire or lightning? For Lockheed, I think it's fire. Right. Because he has little smoke puffs later in the comics. That's one of the gimmicks, isn't it? Come out of his nose. 756 01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:54.000 I think it was fire. Yeah. 757 01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:56.000 And after she takes out two of 758 01:27:56.000 --> 01:27:59.000 them, 759 01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:19.000 Professor X manages to get Colossus back in there, and he blocks the beam, smashes the last one as a Colossus does. And then we get a very full Lockheed on the next page, who's gone in and eaten all of the. Their eggs. Very brood. 760 01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:21.000 Like they were breeding there. 761 01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:27.000 It's very brood like, right after a brood story. Got a lot of eggs going on. 762 01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:29.000 How are they going to make omelets? 763 01:28:29.000 --> 01:29:17.000 I don't know. Well, Lockheed ate them all, so. And then they go back and see the professor, and she's like, we're keeping Lockheed no matter what. That's his name. He's my dragon now. You can't have him. And he's like, if you. If you. If I say, no. Will he eat me? And she's like, of course not. And then we get an interesting. So I would love both of your thoughts on this, because I. I do like this story. I've read it many times. I have had this book. But one of the things that always bugged me in the story was Professor X's explanation of why she stays on the X Men. Because he's like, well, since I've never actually watched you fight before, I didn't know you were good at it. So you can stay. 764 01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:21.000 Yeah. That she can take care of herself right now. 765 01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:32.000 How is he basing his decisions the entire other time to move her from the team and back and forth the team and build a new team and make her leader of the team and do all these things if he'd never. 766 01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:33.000 And. 767 01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:40.000 And he stays in, like, mental contact with the X Men when they're fighting a lot. And he's never watched her fight, 768 01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:53.000 and he didn't physically see her fight this time either, just through reading her mind or whatever. But, yeah, you would think he would have in the past. 769 01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:58.000 And she proves him right in the battle by almost dying. 770 01:29:58.000 --> 01:29:59.000 Correct. 771 01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:08.000 And needing to be bailed out, to be failed after he told her to leave the situation before she started. 772 01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:33.000 It's kind of like when my dad was teaching me how to drive, and I crashed into all the mailboxes. And he's like, yeah, you'll get better, kid, after you fix these mailboxes and, you know, continue to let me drive. But, you know, it's Professor X just saying that you're doing all right. 773 01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:59.000 She did okay. But. But he did say it was, like, on a con, you know, like a probationary period, you know? You know, so it wasn't. You still have to prove yourself to stay on the team, you know? Yeah. So it wasn't like, you're full X Men. You kind of come off the bench type of like a pinch hitter. 774 01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:07.000 Yeah. Like, yeah, she's just moving up from the farm team, but not. She never was on the. She was on the farm team, but

775 01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:08.000 not on the farm team. 776 01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:10.000 She was, like, there very briefly. 777 01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:11.000 Yeah, she. 778 01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:14.000 She got on and got called up and then. 779 01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:27.000 But, well, she's gonna be an X Men. And we go back, we flip the page, and Scott Summers, I didn't tell you before, but he was gonna go to Anchorage to meet with somebody with his dad and his brother, and so 780 01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:29.000 I think they were going fishing. 781 01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:32.000 Okay. Yeah. So we've got, you know, we've got Alaska. 782 01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:33.000 Yeah. 783 01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:34.000 We've got Cyclops. 784 01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:40.000 But why would they go from Florida to Alaska? Because Florida has a big fishing state, too. Yeah, that's true. 785 01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:43.000 That's also a really fun trip. Yeah. 786 01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:56.000 I mean, different types of fish. I mean, you can get marlins all day long, but you can get a lot of good salmon and you can get your crab and all your other stuff. I mean, matter of fact, it looks 787 01:31:56.000 --> 01:32:17.000 like Alaska Airlines has definitely upgraded their planes since the 80s. That's good news. Anchorage's airport has also gotten a little bit bigger. And there's far less snow in Anchorage during global warming. Uh, that's. Yes, it must. That must be it. Uh, Anchorage was always covered in giant snow, like this giant snow. And so it's their climate there in Anchorage. 788 01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:19.000 Yes. 789 01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:35.000 Anyway, it is funny how they perceive how somebody living in New York perceives Anchorage to be as an artist. Yeah, I'm just kind of humored by this. And they get there, but no 737s yet, right, Greg? 790 01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:36.000 Not yet. 791 01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:36.000 Not yet. 792 01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:43.000 I mean, well, I mean, it's pretty early and I mean, we. Yeah, we don't see them for a while. Maybe a 747 might have been available, 793 01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:46.000 but not a 37 go from Seattle to Alaska. 794 01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:47.000 I mean. 795 01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:49.000 Well, probably not to Alaska. 796 01:32:49.000 --> 01:33:08.000 Well, they probably a 716 or 757. So if it's my guess, they would have at this time flown on Trans World Airlines From Miami to St. Louis action and then St. Louis to Seattle and then got on Alaska and then flew to Alaska. 797 01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:09.000 You know what they would have flown 798 01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:13.000 on DC night or DC10DC. 799 01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:16.000 It does look like a cargo plane. There's no windows on it. 800 01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:18.000 Yeah, that's probably. Yeah. 801 01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:21.000 Well, you mean to Alaska or do you mean across the country? 802 01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:22.000 No. 803 01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:25.000 Oh, what do they go on from. 804 01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:26.000 From. 805 01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:27.000 From. 806 01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:41.000 If they were flying across the country or even. I mean across the country or even even up to Alaska. It doesn't matter necessarily because they would have been going. I mean, like, those are common body. 807 01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:43.000 So who made it? That was McDonnell Douglas Plane. 808 01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:45.000 McDonnell Douglas DC10. 809 01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:49.000 What plane did Lockheed make? Because that's clearly the planes they use. 810 01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:59.000 They made the same fly. The same plane that the X Men fly around in, which would be the Jets SR71. But I mean, we don't call it. 811 01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:01.000 Who is this? The Blackbird. 812 01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:04.000 The Blackbird. Yeah. 813 01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:07.000 Because Lockheed didn't do commercial liners, did they? 814 01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:11.000 No, they did. Everything that they. That they have done is all military. 815 01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:13.000 Government. Military. 816 01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:16.000 Yeah. 817 01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:31.000 Well, anyway, I've delayed the inevitable. Here they we get to the last play page. We've got jerk number one, Lorna's boyfriend, who's also a jerk, and their dad, who is also a jerk because he left them and didn't tell them they had grandparents. 818 01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:35.000 That's true. And Alex is there, too. 819 01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:37.000 Well, that's Lorna's boyfriend, his brother. 820 01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:38.000 Oh, yeah. 821 01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:40.000 Lorna's boyfriend. 822 01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:43.000 Jerks. Jerks and jerks. 823 01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:44.000 That's right. 824 01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:52.000 Who's the biggest jerk in X Factor? Scott or Alex? 825 01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:53.000 Alex. 826 01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:55.000 Okay. Who's the biggest jerk in the X Men? 827 01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:59.000 May. He's a cocky jerk. Yeah. 828 01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:09.000 So if Alex outranks his brother as the top jerk in X Factor and his brother's the top jerk in the X Men, then where does that leave their dad? 829 01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:12.000 Ooh. 830 01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:15.000 Abandoned his kids. That's true. 831 01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:18.000 To go play in space. 832 01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:19.000 Yes. 833 01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:19.000 Is he like. 834 01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:22.000 So they grew up in an orphanage 835 01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:30.000 with superpowers. Scary. It could explain why they're such jerks. 836 01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:31.000 Yeah. 837 01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:34.000 Greg, did you steal the glasses from my house? 838 01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:36.000 No, I got this. 839 01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:37.000 I. 840 01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:43.000 This. Actually, it's ironic that we're talking about Alaska, because this is the. 841 01:35:43.000 -->

01:35:44.000 Cheers. 842 01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:47.000 Anchorage glass. 843 01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:48.000 Okay. 844 01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:50.000 Oh, by the way, not steal from your house. 845 01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:55.000 By the way, some woman that looks just like Jean Gray is here, and it's. Her name's Madeline. Okay. 846 01:35:55.000 --> 01:36:02.000 Yeah, it's Madeline. Don't you know, Dan Throwing. She just ends it like that. That's it. 847 01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:03.000 Just like. What the heck? 848 01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:11.000 Oh, see, we've got the original book. We've got Kitty's costume corner. Oh, are these. Are these submissions from. 849 01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:14.000 I don't know. I think these are original ideas. I didn't actually read it. 850 01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:19.000 That's cool. 851 01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:22.000 The blue and blue one kind of looks like the one she ends up with. Kind of. 852 01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:26.000 Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. 853 01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:27.000 That's pretty cool. 854 01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:31.000 Is that a note from Simonson? 855 01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:41.000 I'm guessing it doesn't say Simonson, but it does say Louise, so that'd be my guess. And of course, you know, you also get an original time with a bunch of different ads. Yes, but you gotta love the ads. 856 01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:43.000 How many a week? 857 01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:45.000 And there's a gaming one there for you. 858 01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:52.000 Oh, hey, is that an Atari ad? No, 859 01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:57.000 Network. M Network is so Mattel. 860 01:36:57.000 --> 01:36:59.000 No, it's a Mattel Atari game. 861 01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:04.000 Okay. Yeah. Mattel Electronics. Yeah. Okay. Oh, new life, too, Greg. 862 01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:06.000 I knew something. 863 01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:10.000 Or Sears video arcade system. 864 01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:11.000 Same system. 865 01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:18.000 Same system. And then reactors on the back cover. Nice. You know, since you got all your gaming behind you, right? 866 01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:19.000 Yeah. 867 01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:19.000 Yeah. 868 01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:22.000 Well, I got game system, Sears and Atari. 869 01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:29.000 I got my Atari sitting over there with my Donkey Kong sitting on top of it waiting to be played. 870 01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:30.000 There you go. 871 01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:34.000 You know, I'm glad you have the ads. We love going through the ads. 872 01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:36.000 Oh, yeah, the ads are awesome. 873 01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:41.000 Do you have any house ads in there for what else was going on at Marvel or one of the, like, 874 01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:55.000 a Marvel out this week here? There's a subscription. There's the comic convention, and they have a bunch of different shows around the country. 875 01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:57.000 Oh, my. 876 01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:09.000 You know, Philly, Manhattan, San Francisco. They're everywhere. Is there any other ads or actual comics? There's a holiday coupon for Marvel. 877 01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:10.000 There we go. 878 01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:26.000 To order something. Classic power. Yeah, I don't think there's no. It's not. At least not in here. Dungeons and Dragons. And then you got the old Bolton. Oh, old letter column. 879 01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:27.000 Love it. 880 01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:27.000 Beautiful. 881 01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:30.000 Is. Is there a. Is there a letter from TM Maple 882 01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:34.000 in there or TE Pounty. 883 01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:35.000 Let's take a look. 884 01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:36.000 We. 885 01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:37.000 We love those letters. 886 01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:38.000 We do. 887 01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:40.000 Broke my rubber band. 888 01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:46.000 You know, if somebody should take all those TM Maple letters and make a book out of it, that would be my girl. This is a good idea. 889 01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:54.000 Oh, you know what? Yeah. It's not a letter column. It's a bullpen. So, Jim Shooter. Oh, talking about. Whatever. Shooter. 890 01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:58.000 Pew. Pew. Much nicer in old age than he was then. 891 01:38:58.000 --> 01:38:59.000 And in person. 892 01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:00.000 Yes. 893 01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:01.000 Yeah. So nice. 894 01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:10.000 We liked him in person. He was really nice. But. But in the 80s, maybe not the best. Not the best. 895 01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:16.000 Yeah. Yeah. He might have been a little rough, you know, but he got them to put out a lot of good books. 896 01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:30.000 And. And as he aged, he became better and didn't become a crazy maga Republican, either. Toward the end of his life, he was actually quite friendly and not that, was he. Yeah, we met him at Summercon a couple years ago before he passed away. 897 01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:32.000 Right. Yeah, he was there. 898 01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:37.000 He was great. We talked to him for, like, an hour. We talked to him for a long time. 899 01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:40.000 To talk for an hour. Yeah, I would think he was. 900 01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:46.000 We talked to him for, like, 20 minutes, and then he had us talk to him again later. And then we saw his little presentation. 901 01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:47.000 He just. He. 902 01:39:47.000 --> 01:40:00.000 Yeah, we've. We've been very fortunate sometimes, in which sometimes these folks will see us and then call us back and like, yeah, like, just catch us. 903 01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:01.000 Just want to chat. 904 01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:19.000 It's like, okay, this is like. Like, the child inside me is like, losing their. But I have to keep it together as a. As an adult because I am just trying to, like, you know, maintain. But I am. 905 01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:20.000 My. My. 906 01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:24.000 The child me is like. 907 01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:27.000

Right, cool. Yep. So, yeah. 908 01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:39.000 It was a good part, kind of crazy part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We. I don't know. It's. Yeah, it's. It's wild. 909 01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:40.000 It's. 910 01:40:39.000 --> 01:41:00.000 It's quite wild. Who we get to talk to and then talk to again. Anyway. Yeah, well, we were gonna. I was gonna turn this back around into getting to talk to people because I think it's time to wrap this thing up. But first off, James, I assume you'd like us to talk more about Grit City comic show. 911 01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:02.000 Sure, if you want. 912 01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:03.000 Well, I do. 913 01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:06.000 And you can meet Greg there. And grand will be there. 914 01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:07.000 I will be there. 915 01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:10.000 Yeah. 916 01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:20.000 I will also be there. I will be there. On the other side. Greg will be between us, and Tanner will be on one side, and I will be on the other side. 917 01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:22.000 Awesome. 918 01:41:22.000 --> 01:41:24.000 And so we can have peace. 919 01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:26.000 Yes, yes, yes. Okay. 920 01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:31.000 Because we need peace at the show. We don't need. You don't need a fist fight or a wrestling match at the show, right? 921 01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:32.000 No, no, we. 922 01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:33.000 Unless. 923 01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:42.000 So don't. Don't put you next to somebody. So not next to Rich, then? 924 01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:57.000 Well, if you put me next to Rich, I'll just talk to Rich the whole time, and then it'll be distracting. You could put us next to Scott Collins, Ron, Dev, Bob, any of these guys. Yeah, I guess. Jason. 925 01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:01.000 Anybody? 926 01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:02.000 No. 927 01:42:02.000 --> 01:43:05.000 Last two years ago. Two years ago, we were next to Dev, and Dev and I had some incredible conversations about both current stuff and the old comics. It was great. People would come by, and I had to make sure. I asked Greg. I had to make sure I wasn't distracting him from people buying stuff because we were having great conversations, and I wanted to make sure I didn't prevent sales from happening. So there is those kind of things. But, yeah, so what I will tell everybody right now is I bought originally 12 tickets to this show, and I have nine left. So if you are in the Tacoma area and. Or you're not, but you just want to come here on November 7, 2026, all you have to do is in any of the social media this week, tell us why Cyclops is not a jerk, even if you think he is, and I will give you one ticket to the Grid City comic show. That simple. 928 01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:06.000 That simple. 929 01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:08.000 That's nice. Awesome. 930 01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:21.000 Listener Sean has a ticket, so. Yeah, we are, but we'll make sure that happens. So, James, because we want people to come to the show, and when you had the tickets on sale for half the price that they are Now, I 931 01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:26.000 bought 12 of them. Wild. 932 01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:27.000 Yeah. 933 01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:29.000 James is like, wait, that's kind of how you do that you're supposed to do. 934 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:58.000 No, no, you are. That's. That's a perfect time to get tickets for friends to bring somebody that's never been to a show before, you know, and honestly, I think Grid City is a great introduction into comic book conventions because if somebody's never been to a show before and they go to, let's say, Emerald City, I mean, it could be a little overwhelming. It's a lot, you know. It's a lot, you know, and of course, there's even bigger with San Diego and New York. I mean, can you imagine being the first time at something like that? 935 01:43:58.000 --> 01:43:59.000 Oh, my gosh. 936 01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:09.000 Go to a show where you can actually look through things. You're not running into people. And then everybody's pretty happy at Grit City too, because it's such a relaxed convention. 937 01:44:09.000 --> 01:45:21.000 I've had friends that have brought their kids on the spectrum and have been so thankful that this is the kind of show that they can bring their kids to that enjoy comics, enjoy the characters, and don't feel overwhelmed and overstimulated because they can leave and come back. The show floor is not as overwhelming and packed as a show like Emerald City or any other show like that, you know, where it's just so much in such a confined space where Grid City is. Is very much for the people that want to be there, in a sense. Right. And there you're able to have those conversations in the pathways, and people can stop and look and talk, and those same kids can sit there and. And pick up a book and look at it and ask questions. That might take a little bit longer. Then, you know, a bigger show would allow them to have that moment, you know, and they can have that. That time with the creator. So they were very thankful for a show like this. 938 01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:23.000 Oh, great. Yeah. 939 01:45:23.000 --> 01:45:35.000 And when you go up those escalators to come in, you can go right back down those escalators to go outside, like Greg said. And if you need a break, you can take a walk around the block or go grab some lunch or whatever. You can also grab lunch there. 940 01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:36.000 Good restaurants right there. 941 01:45:36.000 --> 01:45:54.000 Ye, yeah, yeah. And come right back to the show. And they also have a board, gaming areas and role playing areas that you can have access to that you have a little bit. It's a little bit more chill than doing some of those in the rooms at some of the bigger shows, too. So you've got that there. 942 01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:55.000 Right. 943 01:45:55.000 --> 01:46:06.000 And I mean, I love this show. I was so sad that I missed it. Last year. I was on a cruise in the Caribbean. But I was also

like, Craig's giving me a terrible time. 944 01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:07.000 I was so. 945 01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:08.000 I was so double booked myself. 946 01:46:08.000 --> 01:46:10.000 I was so frustrated with you. 947 01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:11.000 But that's okay. 948 01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:12.000 That's okay. 949 01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:12.000 I went. 950 01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:14.000 I had a great time. I had. 951 01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:16.000 You were all by yourself, Craig. 952 01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:18.000 Oh, yeah. No, but I had a great people 953 01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:20.000 at the same time and around me. 954 01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:23.000 So yeah, I had. I had. 955 01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:25.000 And friends surrounding and stuff like that. 956 01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:35.000 Kevin Newman who lives around here and stuff like that. I see him around. He wasn't too far around, too far away. So he popped in and checked in on me. 957 01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:39.000 So, James, are you still looking for volunteers? 958 01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:48.000 Yeah, yeah, I'm just starting to put that list together right now. So now's a good time to fill out that little volunteer application on the website. Okay. 959 01:46:48.000 --> 01:47:12.000 So you'll be hearing the show comes out on the 10th, so. Or 10th. Not. I said the 10th. That's probably not true. Probably the 11th. And so make sure that you, if you hear this, go to the Grit City website and put in that volunteer thing there and put a note. Hey, James, I just heard about this on Funny Book Forensics. I'd love to help out. So James can incorporate you in quickly. 960 01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:14.000 Sounds good. Yeah. 961 01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:27.000 And yeah, come join us. And like I said, you can also, if you just want to come for funsies, grab a free ticket from us. Just all you have to do is let us know why Cyclops is not a jerk. 962 01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:29.000 Why he's not a jerk. 963 01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:33.000 We will make sure you have a ticket to the show. 964 01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:36.000 Hopefully they could change your mind. 965 01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:41.000 Unlikely. Unlikely. 966 01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:42.000 This is. 967 01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:51.000 I would be really compelled to see some of. I can't wait to see some of the arguments. We'll have to put some of them up. But talk them. Discuss them down. 968 01:47:51.000 --> 01:48:00.000 I mean, we can discuss them. Uh, they're just like the zombie jerk because. And then I say mind sex with the White Queen and then it's all done. 969 01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:06.000 But I mean, honestly though, the White Queen, I mean, maybe not you, Dan. 970 01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:07.000 It's very. 971 01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:07.000 It's. 972 01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:08.000 It's a. 973 01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:11.000 It's a compelling. 974 01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:12.000 Compelling. 975 01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:12.000 Yeah. 976 01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:17.000 I mean,

there was the one character in the Hellions that. Quite attractive. 977 01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:20.000 The, the guy that was like part robot. 978 01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:21.000 No. 979 01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:23.000 Oh, those aren't the Hellions. 980 01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:24.000 Oh, I'm sorry. Not the hell. 981 01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:27.000 That's the Pierce. That was. That was Pierce's team. 982 01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:30.000 That is Donald fierce. Yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry. 983 01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:31.000 That's very different. 984 01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:32.000 Very different. 985 01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:35.000 But I mean, yeah, I mean, you know, if you like that kind of. 986 01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:46.000 No, not similar at all. No, it's like. No, not similar at all. So. All right, so we should wrap this up. 987 01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:47.000 Greg. 988 01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:48.000 Yes? 989 01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:51.000 Do you have anything that you need to promote right now? 990 01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:59.000 Right now, the only thing that I think I need to discuss and talk to you about is the thing that 991 01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:01.000 Dan, you're going so slow right now, 992 01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:05.000 discusses and talks about all the time. 993 01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:06.000 You know it. 994 01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:19.000 You love it, Alex. Rain brings the pain in the rain on a train Here and there Back again. A cyborg story. The cyborg story. 995 01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:20.000 Okay. 996 01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:25.000 Travis Webb, Brett Waddell, Albert Pu. You know you want it. Good. 997 01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:27.000 Overcastcomics.com. 998 01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:28.000 that's the place. 999 01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:32.000 Okay, well, you can go to overcastcomics.com or you can track that thing on 1000 01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:35.000 Kickstarter, 1001 01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:39.000 and someday you'll have a story about cyborgs or something. 1002 01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:41.000 Yeah. Nice. 1003 01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:44.000 It might even be a Nemesis of Swords. 1004 01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:48.000 Oh, that's the actual title. Nemesis A sequel. Alex. 1005 01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:49.000 Re. 1006 01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:58.000 Oh, I thought it was like Nemesis Kid versus. Anyway, okay, so Nemesis the Kid. Nemesis the Kid and the Robot guns. 1007 01:49:58.000 --> 01:49:59.000 Yes. 1008 01:49:58.000 --> 01:49:59.000 There you go. 1009 01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:02.000 James, do you know about this book? 1010 01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:04.000 Not offhand. 1011 01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:05.000 Oh, there we go. 1012 01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:08.000 Well, I know, I know. I'll have to take a look. 1013 01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:22.000 They're having a sequel to the Nemesis movie in comic book. All right, so with the approval of the estate of Albert Pugn. So, yes, that's very, very cool. 1014 01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:23.000 Travis. 1015 01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:28.000 Also looking on a recut of Cyborg currently. 1016 01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:32.000 So that's actually. That's actually on Kickstarter 2, I believe right now. 1017 01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:33.000 The film. 1018 01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:35.000 The film. So it's a. 1019 01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:36.000 It's. 1020 01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:39.000 It's not a recap. Well, it's a. It is the fifth installment of the 1021 01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:46.000 cyborg movies, but it's something like that. We'll get you a good description. It'll be fantastic. 1022 01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:47.000 It's fantastic. 1023 01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:51.000 Yeah, I'll look for it on social media. I'll look for that post. 1024 01:50:51.000 --> 01:51:07.000 Grit City comic. Grit City, Yeah. Overcast Comics, Grid City. On November 7th. Go to overcast Comics. Call Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul if you want to. And I think, oh, we have a new website. 1025 01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:16.000 Oh, my gosh, we do. Dan shared it with me today, and I was actually like, holy crap, my socks have been knocked off. This is actually. 1026 01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:41.000 We have an absolutely new website. We're just gonna. Really quick. Just throw up here right now. Bang. You can come right here. It's not completely done, but if you want to go around and experiment with us. My favorite part, it's not 100% complete because it pulls them from the episode description. But if you want to find out if we've covered a comic, you can come right to this page and go find it. 1027 01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:42.000 Yeah, nice. 1028 01:51:42.000 --> 01:52:42.000 So you can go to any of the episodes and be like, hey, did you cover the Glitter Vipers Kickstarter where. Yes, yes, we did. In fact, it's right here. It's one of my favorite books. Did you cover all of Tom King's Human Target, which we now call the series Lanterns on hbo? Yes, yes, you did. In fact, you covered it before when Guy Gardner was the jerk in that one, too. So it was fantastic. Did you cover all of Iron man getting Drunk? Yes, yes, we did. In fact, it's all right here. So you can go through this page and find out all sorts of things about what we have done. So that's one of my favorite additions to the book, to the thing. And it's. It's all right here. So I. I still have a couple of improvements to make, but if you. I'll give you. That's the other thing. If you go to. Go to the site here and you see have an improvement you want us to make, we'll make it. Let me know and you can get a ticket to Grit City Comic Con. So either, wait, you tell us what 1029 01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:50.000 you don't like, and then you, Dan, will give you a ticket. You tell us that you don't like about the website that Dan just put together, and then he'll give you a ticket. 1030 01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:51.000 That's. 1031 01:52:50.000 --> 01:53:07.000 That is, if you. If you find a mistake up there or something that links off to something you don't like or it's a little awkward, just let me know so I can fix it. And yeah, so either tell us why Cyclops is not a jerk, or just tell us something about the website you'd like to see make us better. 1032 01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:08.000 So. 1033 01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:15.000 Yeah. All right, that's it. Thank you all so much. And I'm going to hit the button right now. Bye, everyone. 1034 01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:16.000 Bye. 1035 01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:17.000 Bye. 1036 01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:24.000 Be it.