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Thank you, Alan. I appreciate you responding to our short. A 28 days later is a zombie movie the same way that Road Warrior is a Western. It embodies all the tropes and narrative expectations, despite not technically having the main thing the genre is named after. So is he saying I'm. Are they saying I'm right or you're right there? 33 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:15.000 I think they're saying it's a movie that follows a recipe, although it doesn't have the thing, the one ingredient in it. So it's like having, like. 34 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.000 Oh, it's like vegan chocolate chip cookies 35 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:26.000 or like a Parmesan that's using eggplant instead of chicken. It's the thing that you think you're getting, but it's not quite it. 36 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:32.000 Oh, I was saying vegan chocolate chip cookies because that's impossible, because cookies are made with butter. 37 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:36.000 Ah. Not vegan chocolate chip cookies, then. 38 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:46.000 They're not cookies. They should call them something else. They could be. They are delicious confection. The vegan chocolate chip cookies from Trader Joe's. Quite good. Not expensive. But they're not cookies because there's no butter. 39 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:50.000 I don't even think they're chocolate unless it's dark chocolate or carrot. 40 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:54.000 Well, you don't have to have. No, you can have chocolate without the milk in it. 41 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:55.000 Can you? 42 00:06:55.000 --> 00:07:02.000 Yeah, you mix it with something else, which is probably mixed with vegetable oil. That probably makes it really terrible for you. 43 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:06.000 That's a bigger debate. Why would you eat it? 44 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:08.000 I bet they're mixed with, like, Cool Whip. 45 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:19.000 Cool Whip is. Is kind of delicious when you put it in the ninja slushie and you throw in your condensed milk, and then you throw in your chocolate milk, and then. 46 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:27.000 Wait, wait. Why would you mix vegetable oil, hydrogenated vegetable oil with sugar with real milk? 47 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:38.000 Because once you put all those things together, you know what you end up with? A Frosty Dan. A delicious homemade Frosty, just like you'd get at Wendy's. 48 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:44.000 I see. Okay. That was sort of. Well, anyway, Alan, thank you for chiming in. We appreciate that. 49 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:49.000 That's a. That's a fantastic answer. I really like. Means that we're both right. 50 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:50.000 Means that I'm right. 51 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:51.000 No, it means that we're both Right. 52 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:52.000 No, it means that I'm right. 53 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:54.000 It means that I'm right. 54 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:55.000 Means that I'm right. 55 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.000 It means that you're wrong. 56 00:07:58.000 --> 00:07:59.000 It means that I'm right. 57 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:02.000 It means that you're not. 58 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:10.000 Justin Pl. I've now, now forgotten how to respond. Justin Pl. 89. 59 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:11.000 Yeah. 60 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:17.000 Says for all intents and purposes, they are zombies. 61 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:19.000 Okay, that's one for Dan. 62 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:20.000 That makes two to one. 63 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.000 That. That makes one to one to one or none to one? 64 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:30.000 Well, then, okay, well, either we both got one last time or we both got zero last time. What is it? 65 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.000 It's kind of like the Mariners getting the World Series this year. 66 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:41.000 So I'm going to say two to one, but actually, no, I agree with you. It's one to zero because the Mariners never score points. 67 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:45.000 Oh, 68 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:46.000 so that's where we're at there. 69 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:47.000 Oh, wow. 70 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:48.000 It is. It is true. 71 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:49.000 It is true. 72 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:56.000 You know, they fired Dan Wilson and the entire coaching staff, but did not fire Jerry Depot. 73 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:57.000 They didn't get rid of the person 74 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:58.000 that put together the whole team. 75 00:08:58.000 --> 00:08:59.000 Wow. 76 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:04.000 No, they. And they have not gotten rid of Bizardo yet. If we don't get rid of Bizardo, I. 77 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:07.000 If we go into another season with them, I. I mean, and then the 78 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:14.000 Seahawks lost to the team from Washington. Like, what the hell? Anyway, okay, I'm not talking about sports ball right now. 79 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:18.000 It's. It was a bad week. The Sonics are doing great, though. 80 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:33.000 No. And the stupid Astros got to the playoffs. The Rangers completely choked and the Astros got to the playoffs going 81 and 81. I hate the Astros so much. 81 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:34.000 It is. 82 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:49.000 It is stupid last rose. Well, last I was checking here. Let's do a quick update before we read the other fine comments from our listeners. We're going to go to a little MLB app right here and see, just. Just to check in to make sure that the White Sox are still defeating the last rose. 83 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:50.000 When. 84 00:09:49.000 --> 00:10:07.000 When? Good news, White Sox six. Last rose three. Okay, so we're getting them out of there. All right, so we get to another post on the great zombie debate. We go to Facebook, and Ryan Fudge puts a meme up that completely supports me. 85 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:12.000 I don't know, does it support you or does it. Does it also. 86 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:18.000 I am telling the truth, and it is Jack Nicholson saying you can't handle the truth, therefore it supports me. 87 00:10:18.000 -->

00:10:25.000 I think that's. You're. You're. You're looking at it through a lens of. You want it to be true, but it might not be true. 88 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:34.000 I am fact the truth, and it Says you can't handle the truth. So it's clearly communicating to you, Ryan. Thank you, by the way, that you are wrong. Greg. 89 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:43.000 I don't know. I mean, I hung out with Ryan this weekend and I think he, he might have a different view. Then again, we didn't talk about it. 90 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:44.000 Oh. 91 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:44.000 So. 92 00:10:44.000 --> 00:11:03.000 Okay, well, I'll call this one neutral. Again, zero to zero. Perfect. All right. And then the best post, of course, from Ray Couch. Classic virus induced zombies. Fun fact. Zombies before George were typically still alive. Oh, I think we're both right again. 93 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:19.000 Oh, it's true. Zombies were alive. They were only under us. Like, like a, kind of like a, A drug. They were, they were being utilized by people to, to go out and do things. They weren't actually dead. They were. 94 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:23.000 So that makes me right and you Right. Okay. 95 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:53.000 And, and just to weigh in, uh, Danny Boyle viewed traditional slow moving zombies as daft because people could easily out walk them, which led him to write Alex Garland to create. I, I knew this before. To create fast sprinting infected driven. The infected driven by rage. A rage virus in 28 days later, not technically zombies boil. Many fans note that the infected are not actually the undead, but living humans suffering from incurable rage virus. 96 00:11:53.000 --> 00:12:00.000 Wow. We, we. Now let's, let's go back on this. You and I both agree that there are fast and slow zombies. Yes. 97 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:05.000 Yeah. In Train to Busan. Yeah. Yeah. But not, not in 28 days later. They are. 98 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:07.000 You're just saying they're not zombies. 99 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:08.000 They're not zombies. 100 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.000 You're just saying they're zombie. Like, zombie. 101 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:16.000 Like in a sense that you would be like, oh, hey, they're zombies. But they're not because they're alive until they're not. 102 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:20.000 Well, the way I see these four posts, it's me 1 and you 0. 103 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:26.000 But then, then you look at classic marriage fashion, Daniel Boyle, the creator of the movie. 104 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:44.000 Well, first off, if you understand literary and movie criticism, you know that the author's intent is irrelevant to the critic. So in fact, I learned that many times in every class I took where I tried to mention the author's intent. And they constantly tell me it's not about author's intent, it's about audience reception. 105 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:53.000 It's so true. I know because I wrote a nice, A nice book about mutants that were infected about

zombies. 106 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:54.000 Now it is. 107 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.000 It is. It is a zombie book. 108 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:57.000 I said they were mutants. 109 00:12:57.000 --> 00:12:59.000 Oh, yes. 110 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:04.000 That was happy at the end of the debate because I was trying not to, like, rage you up at the end. 111 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:05.000 You didn't Want to be raged. 112 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:06.000 No. 113 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:09.000 You didn't want me to have the rage. 114 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:24.000 That was. I was concerned about you. You were. You're. That's the. That's the hardest I've seen you debate for something in a long time. So I was a little concerned that I touched a nerve or you generally, you just let me win and then we go on. But generally. 115 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:33.000 Yes. But you know what? There was. I was reading after losing in unnecessary debates 116 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.000 because used to that for. 117 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:37.000 Oh, I mean, yes. 118 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:40.000 Forever Jobber. I mean, I'm not even invited. So what am I gonna say? I. 119 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:42.000 You'd have to. I mean, if. 120 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:43.000 If. 121 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:50.000 If you. If you come back, you're probably going to be on my team, and you know what that means. We'll lose. Jobber status. 122 00:13:50.000 --> 00:14:41.000 Hey. But the. The most important thing is Michael Tanner doesn't think I'm even on his level to even step into the same room or be on the same panel or be in the same universe as him. I'm not even allowed to go to the same comic cons as him. So, you know, if he wants to lower himself and come onto this podcast and, you know, talk about a comic book or have a debate about something, you know, he's always welcome. But. I know, I know, Mike, you'd have to lower yourself to come down to our level, so. Well, my level, Greg, of course, is on your level. That's why you're writing partners. But you'd have to lower. And I get it. Lowering yourself to come here. It's just something you don't want to do. But I'll challenge you to lower yourself. If I'm so bad, just lower yourself. Come on this podcast. And that's right, that'd be Michael Tanner, author of lots of things like Orcs in Space, Junior Braves of the Apocalypse, a few things. 123 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:42.000 Yeah. 124 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:42.000 And stuff. 125 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:54.000 Absolute zeros. Why can't I think of the. The. The. The one. Battle Grapple. Battle grapple. 126 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.000 Battle grapple. 127 00:14:56.000 --> 00:15:02.000 It's basically like if. If Star wars had wrestling. That's the best way to describe it. 128 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:03.000 Yeah. So anyway. 129 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:24.000 Well, you know, though he did say that you had to. You had. It's almost like. It's like going up the. The ranking system. You have to. You had to defeat or you have to. You have to have on another Michael before you have that Michael. So you have to have Mike woods on the. On the show before you have Mike Tanner. 130 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:28.000 I'll let my assistant Greg take care of that for me. 131 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:30.000 Oh, my gosh. Wow. 132 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:34.000 By the way, I also wanted to introduce a New segment, this podcast. 133 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:35.000 What's that? What's the new segment? 134 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:44.000 Well, I got my DC cards here. Some. I have a lot of them. Yeah, as you're aware, I have a few. 135 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:45.000 No, just a couple. 136 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:53.000 Yeah. And see, I originally got these sleeves. Yeah. But then they got these cool sleeves. 137 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:54.000 Yeah. 138 00:15:53.000 --> 00:16:17.000 Unfortunately, it's not the Bullet logo, but you know, still. So I thought it'd be good. Another 19. Just like last week where we were putting posters in frames. I thought I'd try out a new system here to keep me interested in what's going on. So we're going to put cards in sleeves, see, during the podcast. So we're going to take card out of sleeve, see, like this card out 139 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:22.000 of sleeve to put into another sleeve. Does this game play like Pokemon or Magic the Gathering or. 140 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:23.000 No. 141 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:23.000 Or no. 142 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:27.000 How does it play? It's a deck building game. 143 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:28.000 So you gotta build. 144 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:45.000 Start out with a big pile of cards. And you only start out with a few 10 cards. And then you have to add cards and get rid of cards until you have the enough card points and stuff to win at the end or do things. Hey, like here, look, here's a special card I got. It's an I Vampire card. Cool. Yeah. See? 145 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:47.000 Better put that one in a sleeve. 146 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:50.000 Well, it's going in a sleeve right now. Should I put it right next to the microphone as I do? 147 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:58.000 Oh, geez. This is not this. Listeners, please make him stop. 148 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:07.000 Wait, I know you said you liked it, so. No, last week you liked putting posters in. No, because you said how nice it looked at the end. 149 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:11.000 It did look nice at the end. Listening to it was horrific. 150 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:19.000 Okay, well, what if I just start out by taking the cards out of the sleeves and making a pile of these sleeves in the cards and then I can put the cards in the sleeves. 151 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:21.000 Are you going to lose a card in between? 152 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:26.000 No, no. They're right here next to me and my drink. See? 153 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:29.000 What if you drop a card into your old fashioned. 154 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:32.000 Oh, right. That's impossible because it's

in this cool yeti cup. 155 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.000 Oh, so it won't fall in. 156 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:37.000 Yeah, I don't want to show you the other side of this yeti cup. 157 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:40.000 Oh, see something terrible on it. 158 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:46.000 Yeah. Wow. Might say where I used to work. 159 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:49.000 Oh, I see. Okay, yeah, we don't want to see that. 160 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:53.000 No, I don't want to have to edit that out. That part of the podcast. 161 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:54.000 That's why my water bottle has a 162 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:57.000 bunch of stickers on it. Yeah, I should put. You know what? 163 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:58.000 I have some. 164 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:04.000 We can do that during the podcast, too. I have a whole bunch of stickers over here and yeah, we could throw a sticker on it. 165 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:06.000 That's. 166 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.000 Let's see. Got these. 167 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:12.000 Oh, yeah, put that on there. That's a good sticker. 168 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:17.000 I like this one. Okay. This is a good brand of stickers too. Yeah. 169 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:18.000 Yes. 170 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:20.000 Oh, it doesn't quite fit over the whole thing. 171 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.000 Well, now you need. Oh. 172 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.000 Oh, yeah, I did. Look at that. Look at that. 173 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:27.000 Oh, my gosh. Perfection. 174 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:49.000 We saw the army, by the way. For the people that know where I used to work before, this is literally the best bonus or gift I ever got. In all of my work there, and in all eight years that I worked there, this was the best thing that I ever got from them. 175 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:53.000 It's. It's kind of sad, but it's also kind of nice because it is a nice cup. 176 00:18:53.000 --> 00:19:03.000 It is a very nice cup. I had to. I had to get it back. It was at Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul's gym. No heat. He removed it. 177 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:04.000 Borrow it. 178 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:14.000 And it was borrowed for weeks. I couldn't find it. And then I was lifting heavy giant bags at the gym this weekend and found it. And I restole it back. 179 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:15.000 Oh. 180 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:15.000 For myself. 181 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:27.000 And you're like, don't you take my things? Because I know just because you teach Jiu Jitsu doesn't mean that I don't know somebody who can get it back from you through. 182 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:45.000 Yeah. Roman Sionis. Oh, because if he keeps taking my stuff, I'm going to have him fight him. Yes. So throwing it out there like that, that seems fair. Yeah. I mean, that seems fair. 183 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.000 That would be a match to watch. 184 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.000 I love these little thick sleeves, by the way. 185 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:53.000 They're very nice. Make the noise with it just like. 186 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:55.000 Like this. 187 00:19:55.000 --> 00:20:02.000 Oh, yeah. Do you like that, people? Do you like that? Do you like the. Do you like what Dan is bringing to the show with this? Oh, my. 188 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:15.000 Well, I'm feeling like a winner because we've established. So first, the last row is lost. I established that I am so far the winner of the great zombie debate. So this is perfect. The voters have decided. 189 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:22.000 The voters have this. Oh, my goodness. People, I demand a Rick. 190 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:31.000 I. I awarded one pass to Grit City Comic Con. Sorry, Grit City Comic Show. 191 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:33.000 Grit City Comic Show. 192 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:37.000 You heard me right? You didn't hear the other thing you heard? Grit City Comic Show. 193 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:38.000 Good course. Correct. 194 00:20:38.000 --> 00:21:03.000 I like it. Grit. Grit City Comic Show. Sean is one winner of a Grit City Comic Show. All right, so, Sean, you know, you're out there and we will Be happy to see you in November if you would like to win, quote, unquote. I actually discovered, Greg, that I thought I bought six passes. I did not buy six passes. 195 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:05.000 Oh, how many did you buy? 196 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:06.000 12 of them. 197 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:08.000 Holy. 198 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:10.000 So I've given away two. 199 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:13.000 Two. That means there's 10 left to get. 200 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:20.000 Now do I need to keep one for myself or did you take care of that? 201 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:24.000 I thought I took care of it. 202 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:25.000 Okay. 203 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:27.000 But we should hold on to one just in case. 204 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:30.000 I see. Okay. That means I have. 205 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:36.000 We'll be talking. We'll be talking to. To one of. One of the people 206 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:37.000 soon. 207 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:39.000 Later. Yeah, not long. 208 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:43.000 That means I have. That means I have nine left to give away. Yes. 209 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:46.000 Nine. That. That's three more than you thought that you had. 210 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:49.000 That is. Yes. So reach out to me. 211 00:21:49.000 --> 00:22:01.000 Well, with the two that you've given away already, that's. That's actually 9, 10, 11. That's. That's more than you still thought you had. So that's actually. That's amazing. That's. Reach out to Dan. 212 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:14.000 So if you want to go to Grid City comic show on November 7, 2026 in Tacoma, Washington, at the convention center, super easy to get to. Really easy parking. Unless you're vending. 213 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:15.000 Nah. Yeah. 214 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:17.000 If you're not vending. Super easy parking. 215 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:21.000 Yeah, we've, we've. We've dealt with this. This is fun. 216

00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:23.000 But we're not vending. Right. 217 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:27.000 Well, I mean, tabling. Cabling is similar but different. 218 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:33.000 Well, yeah, but we've learned. We'll just park in the regular parking garage and bring our stuff up the elevator. We're not going to go through the vendor line. 219 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:35.000 No, no, no, no. 220 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:51.000 That would be stupid. We don't have enough things to put on the table to need to do that. We can take them up the regular elevator. But we have learned. And anyway, we've learned that part's really easy. So very. Come join us in Tacoma. There are a whole bunch of people coming. 221 00:22:51.000 --> 00:23:19.000 There are a lot of good folks that are going to be there. It is well worth the show. And if you like, if you like comics and collectibles and other things like that that are like, you know, like to dig through the bins and other things like you would in an old, old comic book show, this is the place to go if you want to actually meet people at their. At their tables and stuff like that. There's going to be a lot of various folks there, a lot of great artists, great writers. 222 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:22.000 You know, they've added some people recently I have seen. 223 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:24.000 Do you have some names? 224 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:28.000 I do. They added Scott Collins, who I'm definitely going to go talk to. 225 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:30.000 Yeah. 226 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:34.000 And they added one of our favorite creators, Ron Randall. 227 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:35.000 There you go. 228 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:39.000 Who doesn't usually come to this show, but I'm glad he's coming this time. 229 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:40.000 Very cool. 230 00:23:40.000 --> 00:24:00.000 And Scott Collins. I mean, if you haven't seen Scott Collins art, you're missing out. Whether he's doing the pencils or the inks or both, he's fantastic. And it's very Kirby esque, to say the least. Do you agree with that statement? 231 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:09.000 Yeah. Yeah. I have a feeling Dan's gonna be walking around glad handing some folks, seeing if they'll want to come on the show at some point. 232 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:13.000 Dan may have some Legion of Superheroes books for Scott Collins. Dan. 233 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:21.000 Dan. Dan's gonna bring. He's gonna be the guy that has the little basket behind him. Excuse me. I just have a book or two for you to sign. And he pulls out. 234 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:43.000 I've met Scott before, a few years back. He's great. We were talking about working with, like, Keith Giffen and stuff. Don't I have a piece of art? Did I get it from Klish or him? I think I got it from Klish, actually. I always get. Sometimes I used to. I'm sorry. Scott Collins and Scott Klish. But sometimes I would get you all confused, even though you're completely different. 235 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:47.000 Very different, but very similar. Their names are both Scott. 236 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.000 I may be buying something. Let's just say that. 237 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:51.000 Yes. 238 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:52.000 Yeah. 239 00:24:51.000 --> 00:25:01.000 This is a great show to pick stuff up at, too, from folks while you're there. There's a lot of folks doing. Doing stuff and. Or they have things at their tables. 240 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:04.000 Yeah. And you're not even listed on the comic creator page. 241 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:07.000 Oh, wow. Well, then I need to change. 242 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:13.000 Yeah. You probably need to reach out because you are also a comic creator that will be there. 243 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:14.000 I know. 244 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:16.000 And you're as famous as some of these other comic creators. 245 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:21.000 You know, I'm just. I'm just me. I. And, you know, just. 246 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:24.000 You should let them know the page. 247 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:29.000 All right. It's probably on me for not getting information back. 248 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:34.000 I'm going make an abrupt turn from taking all these punch cards out of here. These. They're very exciting. 249 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:39.000 Oh, punch. Like, are they for punching or are they for, like, punch cards? 250 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:41.000 They're starter cards. Yeah, they're very. 251 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:45.000 I see. Cool. 252 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:49.000 Well, absolute Batman number four. 253 00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:51.000 Number four. 254 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:53.000 I'm ready for the whole review right now. 255 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:56.000 Okay, let's do it. 256 00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:40.000 This is Scott Snyder's best writing. I, like, literally were what? Issue 4 of 6 here almost cried reading this book the first time, read it again, and was like, wow, I understand why I like this. I've read, you know, I've expressed in the past that I haven't always been a huge fan of Scott Snyder's writing. We'll get into Nick Dragrotta's art in a second here. But because, you know, obviously it's a combination of creators making a book perfect, Right. And we haven't even reviewed it yet. Usually I'd say this is. Then this is a perfect book. 257 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:53.000 It is. It is one of those things that you read and, like, I'm pretty sure a lot of other people can agree. No notes. Like, you just read it and you're like, yep, nope, this is it. 258 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:54.000 This is. 259 00:26:53.000 --> 00:27:25.000 This is the template. If you're looking for a. If you're looking for something to go, how do I write something? This is something one of my editors in the past would have said. Grab this and take a look and look at how they do the movement, look at how they do the dialogue, look at how they do all these different things and crib that for your future stuff. Because this is how you make a good book.

260 00:27:25.000 --> 00:28:18.000 And not only that, this is a serial. They don't reference everything in the first three issues, but they do. And I know that sounds like a weird statement, but they don't visually reference everything in the first three issues. Yeah, but you know, it's there, right? Like, it's, it's. It's not wrapping yet because we're at story part, you know, four. Right. But after issue three at the end, when we get this, you know, hey, I'm going to take this money. Right? We don't reference it at all. And you just know they don't reference the decision. You just know at. By the end of, by the end of issue four, you know, if he really said yes, Right. Like, if he's really saying yes, you know why. 261 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.000 Mm. Yeah. 262 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:42.000 And you know why he wouldn't. And that's the greatest thing about this issue. It's like I mentioned, I felt like sometimes Scott Snyder stuff jumps around a little bit. And this could have in the past been what I was talking about, right? Like me not falling. Like, why did, why did we just ignore everything that happened in the panel. Last panel of issue three. 263 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:43.000 Right. 264 00:28:43.000 --> 00:29:01.000 But we didn't. Nothing in this. But nothing in the pages of this book ignores what happens in the last panel of issue or second to last panel. Right. Of issue three. Because it's telling. It's Giving you the background on how we would get to that decision. 265 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:34.000 Sometimes I think when you have good, like, good follow through with the story, you don't need that reference. You don't need that, that, that kind of like lighting, if you will, into the next book. And it, it just brings it through because the reader, the writer is, is believing so much in the reader's intelligence that they're going to just carry it on. And I, It's a, it's, it's a testament to the trust factor on both sides. 266 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:35.000 Right. 267 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:43.000 That the, the reader trusts that the writer is going to tell them a good story, that the writer trusts that the reader understands the assignment. 268 00:29:43.000 --> 00:31:00.000 Yep. And it's really clear that. It's really clear to me, too. I think one of the things DC has been focused on is at least they say they are. I just. Legion of substitute podcasters. I'll give you a shout out, shout out that they just did a. They, they didn't get to meet this week, so they played a episode from the past and they had some actual Lost episodes. They lost some episodes off a server. So they lost this episode. And I'd actually not listened to it. And it was about Legion Lost number one, and not the good Legion Loss number one, the shitty one written by Fabian Nicienza and then later other writers. Sorry, Fabian was a shitty story. But they were covering the new 52 relaunch issues of Legion and Legion Lost, which was a bad time for Legion, I thought, because I thought they'd kind of finally gotten a role with their first. I think they had been out like 12 issues. And then, you know, DC resets the universe and people had great hope for that new 52. And we know that excitement was a disaster. Right? It was disaster, financially disaster for characters. That was the 52 issues where Superman reveals himself to the world as Clark Kent. And then they delete that Superman. 269 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:05.000 It's like, hey, it's me, everybody. Okay, we're done. We don't need you anymore. 270 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:59.000 Yeah, I mean, they literally delete him at the end. Tomasi deletes him. And that's how you get the Super Sons and that's how you get everything else, everything out of it. So, I mean, maybe we could argue it's great because we had to do those things to get everything out of it. But yeah, I mean, financially, just a disaster. I know there was some good Batman stuff in there that people liked and that's. Hence we're talking. I wasn't a big fan. And again, now we're talking about Snyder again. Right. But I will say that, you know, listening back on that podcast, the point I was about to make is they were talking about, like, continuity. Right, Right. And putting together a story. And, you know, they were super hopeful for the start of that universe. Right. They're like, okay, we can see the threads here. We can see where this is going to go. We can see where everything. And we were saying that with the first three issues of this. Right? 271 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.000 Yeah. Yeah. 272 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:02.000 Well, you can. 273 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:07.000 You put it all together and you're like, okay, I'm getting it. It's all laying out. 274 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:14.000 And now we're not saying we can see where it's going to go. We're saying they're taking us there, and it's great. 275 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:20.000 Yeah. And we haven't even started talking about it yet, people. 32 minutes in. 276 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.000 We've definitely been talking. 277 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:26.000 Tasted it. We've. You've tasted it. Now we're going to feed it to you. 278 00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:32.000 We've definitely been talking about it. By the way, back of the book, you watched this, didn't you? 279 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.000 Creature Companion Commandos. What? 280 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.000 Yeah. You never watched this? 281 00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.000 No. What is this? 282 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.000 They did a cartoon Creature Commandos. 283 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.000 No, I didn't watch this. 284 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:48.000 Yeah, it bridges Suicide Squad to the rest of the new DC movies. 285 00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:51.000 Can I. Is it still streamable? 286 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:54.000 Yeah, it's on Max, or whatever they call themselves. 287 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.000 Okay, well, I have that. I can do it. I know what I'm doing. 288 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:03.000 By

the way. Yeah. Would you like to. When Paramount and HBO merge. 289 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:04.000 Yeah. 290 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:09.000 What is going to be the new name? Is it going to be Max Mounting 291 00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:21.000 or Mounting to the Max Ax or Mount? Max Mount. Max Max Mounts. I don't know. 292 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:26.000 But skin a Max Mount. 293 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:42.000 Skinny Max mounting. I don't know, Dan. That's a lot to. That's a lot to unpack. And I'm in my George right now. It's like. I don't know. I don't. 294 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:46.000 Oh, boy. Well, I don't even like them. 295 00:33:46.000 --> 00:34:01.000 I don't know why I put them on today. It's that it's, like, hot and cold, but not, like, hot enough to be like full shorts, but not cold enough to be, like, full pants. So I figured jorts is the way to go, but, man, I gotta throw these things away, people. 296 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:08.000 Yeah. Well, I left my shorts on after my walk, too. But I've got. I was. I was in the Northwest Tuxedo. 297 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:09.000 Okay, so you're. 298 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.000 Cargo shorts and a hoodie. 299 00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:29.000 Cargo shorts and a hoodie. See, the. This is. This is like Suburban Dad. Not even Suburban Dad. This is Like, I'm going to a Fish concert. Or maybe just a Grateful Dead cover band. I don't know. 300 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:38.000 I mean, I. I had a. I had a colleague at work that follows Fish around and. But she would love your comment. 301 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:55.000 You know, my old roommate, like, that's the. She just ended up at our house one day after. She's like, oh, my car broke down. Gonna stay with you guys. It's like, why are you here in Longview? Fallen fish. Cool. 302 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:57.000 And then she stayed and. 303 00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:06.000 Yeah. And then my roommate married her, and now I have a. An adult godson. Two adult godsons. 304 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.000 Well, we have a Batman cover. 305 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.000 Yeah. 306 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.000 And then we're never gonna see that again. The rest of the issue. 307 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:16.000 We're never gonna see that Batman. I mean, we will. We will see that Batman. 308 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:20.000 You watched Righteous Gemstones, right? 309 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.000 Seeing some Righteous Gemstones, yes. 310 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.000 Did you get through the first season? 311 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:26.000 Not every episode. 312 00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:33.000 But did you get to the flashback episode? Were there little kids and were he. 313 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.000 Or maybe. 314 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:42.000 Okay, explain. Well, you know, Danny McBride writes the same script for everything. 315 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:43.000 Yeah. 316 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:58.000 Right. So they're doing Righteous Gemstones, and if you didn't watch the series, it's, like, about. It's making fun of prosperity gospel and, you know, mega churches and things like that. And, yes, 317 00:35:58.000 --> 00:35:59.000 they. 318 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:37.000 His mom had passed away, and that was part of the series. And you find more about it. And then they do a flashback episode to where his mom's still alive and she has cancer. And it's written in a completely different form. It's heart, you know, pulling on your heartstrings. It's, you know, it's. It's just. I watched it, and I'm like, real story, right? So you're like, you know, you go. You know, and Danny McBride has real stories, but, you know, you go from a Danny McBride script. And then I watch that, and so I'm. I waited to watch the credits to see who wrote it. Danny McBride wrote it. 319 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:38.000 Holy. 320 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:57.000 And I was like, what? And I. It wasn't the same reaction for this script here, huh? But we're going through this story, right? And then all of a sudden, we open with this. The angriest kid in the world. And again, he should be right. 321 00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.000 Yeah, yeah, of course. 322 00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:37.000 And we've got the court, you know, reading in the background. They're mentioning that Mr. Chill, obviously Joe Chill, that's who shot his dad. He just watched him do it. And we're getting the flashback here, and a tear comes into his eye. And then we flip the page, and we get back to our nice denizens. Of Crime Alley. And we get some gangsters threatening them. Hey, you know, we need to collect. You know, they're trying to collect money to protect them. And one woman stands up to them. And then a really freaky 1940s Batman 323 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.000 shows up 324 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:50.000 and saves her. Gets in a fight with everybody, is carrying a gun. So they are giving complete homage back to the golden Age. Early Batman. Right? 325 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.000 Right. 326 00:37:52.000 --> 00:38:43.000 And he's got red eyes, and he blocks the bullets with his cape and knocks people out. He goes to shoot somebody and, oh, he screes. He. He screeches like a bat. Yeah, he goes to shoot somebody. You get a quick interlude with his dad, right? So he's talking to Thomas Wayne, and he's talking to him about bats, and he's making this bridge design out of bats. I'll flip the page up really quick for people that can't see it. And then we go back to his fight, and he flies away, and he says, you know, he's got the gun, everything. This is all wrong. What are you doing, Bruce? And he's like, it's just theatrics. So he goes home, he throws everything away. He throws the gun away. He throws the teeth away. Throws the eye thing or the. 327 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:44.000 The contacts. 328 00:38:44.000 --> 00:39:22.000 Contacts away. And he starts training again. But in this case, it's not just training. He is getting beefier. He goes back to the gym to become beefy Batman, but he's also training

himself in engineering. He's reading books, he's reading philosophy. And he's decided that Batman needs to think bigger. Right. Like, going out and just beating up the bad guys in his mind isn't enough. Right. It doesn't actually solve the issues. Right. And the issues we've seen so far in the series, we've seen issues with billionaires, we've seen issues with large organizations, crime families. 329 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:23.000 Yeah. 330 00:39:23.000 --> 00:40:12.000 And this Batman didn't go to the Himalayas or something and, like, try to study with monks or center himself. This Batman stays in Gotham and tries to figure out how to help the people that he grew up next to the whole time, which is what we've been establishing through the first three issues. And so we start to get this idea of how beefy Batman becomes beefy Batman. But not just that, but the why. Right. And what he's doing. And so he starts tracking how guns get into the city. So he is so freaked out by the fact that he was going to shoot somebody, he's like, I'm just going to get rid of the guns. 331 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:16.000 Yeah. And take them off the board. 332 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:21.000 And of course, we know it's impossible to pass reasonable and responsible gun legislation. 333 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:25.000 It's true. Can't. 334 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.000 The tide may be turning, but we can only hope. 335 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.000 Can only hope. 336 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:32.000 By the way. 337 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:33.000 Yeah. 338 00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:40.000 Side note, as far as crime is concerned, are you following the Texas Senate race at all? 339 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:41.000 I. Let's see. 340 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:44.000 James Talarico vs. Ken Paxton. 341 00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:50.000 A little like, a little bit. I. I've caught some things here and there. 342 00:40:50.000 --> 00:41:22.000 Ken Paxton bragged in an interview that it's not fair to say he only gave a sex offender who raped a boy, little boy, for two years, a one day sentence. In fact, his office recommended a 60 day sentence. In fact, they did recommend a one day sentence. It's in the court records, apparently. And the judge had to say, no, we're not doing that, 343 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:23.000 people. 344 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:24.000 Fellow lawyer, by the way. 345 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:28.000 Jeez, 346 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:42.000 if you're from Texas and you're listening, please vote. Do not let that man into the Senate. 347 00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:48.000 What you need is, is you need the, the people's. The. The people's Batman. 348 00:41:48.000 --> 00:42:09.000 Yeah, we do need the people's Batman. And to be equally critical, our wonderful junior senator spent a whole bunch of time helping draft and pass a law to reinstate the wonderful parts of the, like nature, amateur nature of college sports. So, Maria Cantwell, thank you for thinking that's so important. 349 00:42:09.000 -->

00:42:14.000 I have. I have had thoughts about her for a long time. 350 00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:25.000 Oh, I have many thoughts about her right now. All of them are Batman related. Notice this triggers when I'm reading this page because Bruce gets on here and he's like, I'm going to solve the problem. 351 00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:29.000 Better candidates, people. Better candidates. There's better candidates out there. 352 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:50.000 I'm gonna solve a problem, right? Like, I'm gonna figure out how to choke these guns off. So he figures out that it's one trucking company, they're bringing the guns with produce because they don't really weigh produce that closely or the weight's going to vary, right? So they can bring it in and he goes out and he gets himself a. A bat car. 353 00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:52.000 Yeah, little. Little R.C. 354 00:42:52.000 --> 00:44:29.000 batmobile. A little R.C. baby Batmobile. He spends a grand, which, you know, to my recollection, he doesn't have a lot of money, but he spends $1,000 on a jack, attaches it to the car, slides in under the truck and then throws the trailer up and stalls at the truck. And that's his initial solution. And he beats up the guys driving the truck and gets rid of all the guns, presumably. And we flash back again, and this is where he's all still bright eyed and young. And he's working on his Bat Bridge and he's showing it to his dad and he's like, see, this thing will hold up anywhere. You can drop it into places, we can bring it to countries that need this. You know, if a bridge goes out, we can fix these things. And he's stressing about out about it. And his dad says, you know, sometimes you don't. Or he. Bruce asks. I mean, I think so how do you know what anything is at its core though, right? And his dad says, right, sometimes you don't. Sometimes it's trial and error, you know, before we were born, all I wanted to be was a doctor, a heart surgeon. He's like, seriously, why? He said, when I was a kid, my dad, your grandpa, he drove the 6:39 bus route six days a week. On his day off, though, the two of us would go down to the amusement Mile Walk on the pier, and there was a guy there who sold these frozen bananas dipped in chocolate. 355 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:30.000 Huh. 356 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:33.000 Are we having an. Is this Arrested Development? 357 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:40.000 Right. There's always money in the banana. 358 00:44:40.000 --> 00:45:26.000 Banana shacks on fire. I told you, there's always money in the banana. Anyway, but it's just. And then we. He discloses that, you know, his dad dies of a heart attack, massive coronary. And that's why he wanted to become a heart surgeon, but he ends up becoming a teacher instead. And, you know, we talked about that before, but Bruce wants to establish this bridge and he keeps working on it. And then we get the flashback to him in court and Dragoda again mixes back the amusement park. Right. And Snyder. Right. I mean, this is both script and art. 359 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:27.000 Yeah. 360 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:31.000 But mixes the amusement park with the courtroom scenes. 361 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:32.000 Yeah. 362 00:45:31.000 --> 00:46:08.000 And they're pulling from all these threads that they've been establishing for us right. Throughout the book. And we get this big smiling guy and he kind of looks like Bruce does on the stand in a weird way. But Bruce is basically, you know, identifies that he lost his innocence that day. Right. You know, it was perfect. Everything was great. They were talking about the giraffes. He'd won the. The science contest. He got to take everything. And he says on the stand. And I knew in that moment, I knew that this was as happy as it ever. As it gets. Ever. I wanted to stay in it, never leave. 363 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:10.000 Yeah. 364 00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:21.000 And we flip the page and Bruce is leaving Gotham City. Right. And we see a lot of interesting things on this page. 365 00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.000 Yeah. 366 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:50.000 But he's trying to identify. He's going across the bridge and then he, you know, he's looking at what happens out there, but he's also coming back into the city to identify where. What makes the city work. Right. The people that are there. Who's being impacted by negative events in the city. What real workers do. Right. We're establishing, again, a very different Bruce. Right. This is not Bruce that lives out. Out in way. 367 00:46:50.000 --> 00:47:10.000 Yeah, yeah. Not, not away from everything, but this is a Bruce who is seeing and living and being everything with everyone and trying to be as in touch and as much of a part of everything as he can be and to understand 368 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:13.000 the why behind what's impacting people. Right. 369 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:14.000 Yeah. 370 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:35.000 And we get some, you know, people line dancing. We get some folks out, looks by a school. He leaves town. But, you know, I think that's symbolic. Right. Because he comes back to see everything. We've got some folks at a construction site. We've got some broken down part of town. We have a Smile Company warehouse down in the bottom corner. I don't know if you caught that. 371 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.000 Yeah, I did. 372 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:45.000 And Smile Company, they bring your packages smiles up. Yeah. If the smile is down, they delivered it wrong. 373 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:46.000 They did. 374 00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:47.000 And just. 375 00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:48.000 They always do. At my house. 376 00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:57.000 Yeah. Yes. I, I in fact had a. We have a. We're on the postal route. That always changes. 377 00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:59.000 Yeah. And you're. 378 00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:01.000 You don't have a dedicated mail person. 379 00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:02.000 Oh. 380 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:08.000 And so you know how at my house there's

like a brick, you know 381 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:13.000 that, that area that kind of like is a walk in. Yeah, yeah. 382 00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:21.000 Where you could just put the package there and nobody would ever see it from the street. Right. They put the package in the window of the door. 383 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.000 That's smart. 384 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.000 So everybody could see it from the street. 385 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:31.000 That is not good. That's kind of like at our place where we have the bin that opens up that you can put the packages in. 386 00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:32.000 Yeah. 387 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:42.000 But nobody ever uses the bin. They haven't used it like for like a year. And. And it's like, come on, people. 388 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:47.000 Well, in my case, it's like you had a decision to put it in the worst possible place. 389 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.000 And, and yeah, and you did, you did. 390 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:53.000 Like there were a lot of options. All of them better than that. 391 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:56.000 They could have put in the backyard. 392 00:48:56.000 --> 00:49:15.000 Yeah. It would have been interesting. Maliwa, the Malinois was not here comfortably asleep next to me though. She is very happy. Yes. The Malinois. The Malinois would just bring me the package though. That'd be. 393 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:16.000 With a hand attached to it. 394 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:20.000 Yeah. I don't know. Like. 395 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:41.000 Well, if you could read their mind, it'd be like, there was a man in the yard. I brought you the box, but I took the hand to chew on because it shouldn't have been. The man shouldn't have been there. He screamed a little. A little. Just a little. 396 00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:43.000 You know, she's afraid of fences. 397 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:44.000 She afraid of it. 398 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.000 She won't jump over them. Yeah. 399 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:48.000 Which is good. 400 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.000 I think this is a good thing. Like. 401 00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:53.000 Yeah. Just build her own small fences. 402 00:49:53.000 --> 00:50:12.000 Her owner, who Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul, is quite fond of the. That'd be Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul we mentioned many times here in Washington. He can handle your employment law cases. In fact, everybody that works in one of these places here. 403 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:14.000 Oh, yeah. One of those places he can definitely, 404 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:17.000 probably represented right now by Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul. 405 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:19.000 Oh, yeah, definitely. 406 00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:32.000 But, yeah, the. The Malinois. The Malinois owner was thinking that it would be a good idea to make sure she knew she could jump over a fence because she's, you know, trained to hunt for electronics and stuff. 407 00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:33.000 Yeah. 408 00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:44.000 And I was like, well, that could be good as part of that job. But as far as, like, keeping the Malinois, I think it's a bad idea to have the Malinois figure out that. That she likes jumping over fences. 409 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:47.000 Yeah. No, you want the Malinois to not, 410 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:50.000 like fences, to defer to the fence, I think. 411 00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:56.000 Oh, there's a fence. I got to. Somebody help me. Yeah. I got to have somebody help me with this. 412 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:57.000 Yeah. 413 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.000 I do not pass. 414 00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.000 Otherwise. The Malinois owns the neighborhood, I think. 415 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:01.000 Oh, yeah. For sure. 416 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:10.000 Or at least every ball in the neighborhood. Like, I would come back out to the backyard, and there would be 5,000 tennis balls in the backyard. 417 00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:16.000 I. I know. I know. When I've come over the couple times and just. She always wants to play. 418 00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:17.000 Oh, yeah. 419 00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:22.000 Always wants to play. And it's like, between her and Juliet, it's like. Okay, okay. 420 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:23.000 Okay. 421 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:30.000 My arm is getting tired. I am. Thank you for the toy. Okay. I'm getting tired now. It's been an hour. Can we stop? 422 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:39.000 Yeah. Endless, endless toy getting energy. And I think we're avoiding this next page because it's. Oh, yeah. 423 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:45.000 It's freaking sad as hell. 424 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:48.000 We get some, by the way. 425 00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:49.000 No. 426 00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:49.000 Alfred in this book. 427 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:54.000 Right. I don't. If he might show for a panel. 428 00:51:54.000 --> 00:52:00.000 Yeah. But we haven't seen. So far. So far, we're halfway through. We haven't seen any of the Gotham crew. 429 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:03.000 No, it's just all Bruce. 430 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:04.000 It's all Bruce. 431 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:05.000 Bruce building. 432 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:10.000 Bruce building. Good. Yeah. We did some world building. And now we're doing some Bruce building. 433 00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:14.000 Yeah. 434 00:52:14.000 --> 00:53:17.000 He mentions, I'm going to start by where we see the warehouse that looks like at the Smiley Package Company. And he's thinking, you know, they're hurting. They're feeling like no one sees them. Like they're at the mercy. This is referring to the people of Gotham. Of all these forces that seem beyond their control, powerless. Some are angry at everyone who let them down. And some are scared and hunkering. It's bad. And then we flip to Bruce in the courtroom and he says, you killed that happiness, Mr. Chill. Forever. I'm not staying for anything you have to say. I don't care what made you do it or do what you did. I just need you to know that I hate you. And the judge says, Mr. Wayne. And Bruce says, I hate. I

hate you. Of course, it's not, because we don't do that in this book. I hate you. You hear me? And then we flash back to Bruce's trip out of town where he's hiking with the bats. 435 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:18.000 Yeah. 436 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:21.000 And it's a. 437 00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:29.000 It's kind of powerful page, though, in a sense, because, I mean, there's a lot of. A lot of rawness. 438 00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:53.000 Well, and then we get another page where his dad's there, and he's explaining the bridge. And then he's training, he's working on his gear. He's testing his bat thumb thingy. And then we get another page and then it flips back to his dad and he's like, stop stalling, kid. Let me see it. And he shows him the cool bat bridge. Right? The final version. 439 00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:56.000 Yeah. 440 00:53:56.000 --> 00:54:13.000 And, you know, he's talking to his dad. I forget if it's right here, if it was earlier, but he's talking about how, you know, bats are the only mammals that can fly. It's on. It's. It's somewhere in here. 441 00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:14.000 Yeah. 442 00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:29.000 But he has made this really cool thing. We get a quick flash to young Batman looking at the trucking company guy who's at a gala. Lot of text here. I'm not going to try to go through. 443 00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:30.000 Yeah, it's a lot. 444 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:34.000 But he's basically saying, this is where all the rich people go. 445 00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:35.000 Yeah. 446 00:54:35.000 --> 00:55:41.000 And then we get back to that and we see he's put buzz saws on here. He's a little kid, right. He's putting really cool things on his bridge. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's. He's. He's a little kid. He's still got all the hope in his eyes. Right. He's like, I'm Making this cool thing. And then we flip back to current day Batman with the police. Or not current day. Sorry, past Batman past. It's not quite current day, but identifying that guy. Oh, that's where it is. Sorry, it was the second last page. Bats. He says it's the only mammal on earth that flies, dad. The only one. It's this crazy little creature that shows us we can beat anything holding us down. And suddenly in this universe, the bat is both a symbol of fear, but a symbol of hope, which I know they've established that in regular Batman at times, but the inspiration here is that he's using this to show that you can overcome anything as opposed to 447 00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:48.000 Ray scaring people. Yeah, you can do anything. 448 00:55:48.000 --> 00:56:14.000 And then as we see Bruce grow up, he goes back to the jail and he wants to see Joe Chill. And he's finally ready, after all that realization about understanding the people around him, to hear him say, what do you want to say in court that he skipped that day? 449 00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:18.000 Yeah, it's a 450 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:19.000 damn. 451 00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:20.000 It is. It is. 452 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.000

Damn group. Thank you, artists. 453 00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:58.000 Yeah. It is such a, an emotional book. It is such a, a book of, like, it just, I don't know it. If you thought you knew, like, I mean, if you thought you knew where the story was going in the last book, this one takes you through a different, a different portion of Bruce and explains you something without shows you, but doesn't tell you. Yep. 454 00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:25.000 You know, and the whole thing is I wasn't even mad. I was a little bit mad at the end, but I wasn't even mad till the end that I didn't hear about him accepting the money. Right. Like, you're not mad about the stutter. Stop. And that's why I was referencing that, that episode of Righteous Gemstones too, because the same thing's kind of happening there, right? Like, something big happens and they have that flashback and you're not even mad about it because the story is so good. 455 00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:45.000 Right. And you're just going with it. You're going with it because it's, it's bringing you along through every panel, through every, through every bubble, through every movement that you're going, you're just like, okay, okay, okay. And then it ends and you're like, 456 00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:49.000 and, and who, who wouldn't like this Bruce Wayne? 457 00:57:49.000 --> 00:58:57.000 I, I, if you don't like this Bruce Wayne, let us know. I want to know because I, I, I really need to find out. I, this is like, honestly, like, if you, if you read other Batman and I've read another Batman, if you've read. If you've read other Batman, you, you have this idea in your head of what Batman is, who he, who Bruce Wayne is, what he does. This is just a very different take on it, on the character, on, on why, his reasons and, and why, which is based on his, you know, it's that, you know, the nature and nurture environment situation. He has two different sets in both universes, but in this one, it's, it's a very, the, I think, I think this is one that more people can kind of just go, oh, yeah, I understand that one. 458 00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:07.000 If Darkseid's goal was to take away all the advantages that these characters had, which was part of the goal of, like, creating this universe, right? Yeah, he fucked up. 459 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:13.000 He just, he just gave this, he gave Bruce Wayne more advantages, right? 460 00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:41.000 I mean, without the money and without Alfred there babysitting him, right, the entire time, he becomes stronger, he becomes more focused. Now this could be his downfall too, right? Like, I obviously, of course, if you say Dark Knight returns and we've already had Bruce Wayne become a Nazi, so, you know, that already happened. I know you disagree, but I would say that's what he is at the end. He has his own army. 461 00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:52.000 I, I, I would say it's, it's, that is one perception and one opinion. And you could also say he. 462 00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:58.000 Well, if we go to author's intent, as you wanted me to do earlier. 463 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:03.000 Yeah, but see, that's how you won your debate. So, I mean, we could, we could, we could. 464 01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:11.000 A good debater is happy to use his opponent's arguments against them when convenient. Wow, Dave, did I teach you anything? 465 01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:14.000 You taught me nothing. 466 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.000 That's actually, that's actually true. 467 01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:17.000 But you know what, Dan? 468 01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.000 I let sir do all of that. 469 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:28.000 You know what? You know what? Right now, you know what I have, I have the high ground. Yeah, and your legs are cut off in the lava. 470 01:00:28.000 --> 01:01:16.000 Well, I could see the point I was going to make is I could see this Bruce Wayne's potential for corruption. And I think they're kind of hanging it out there for us, right, with the, the money, right? Because he doesn't have all the advantages that the other Bruce Wayne has. So how does he. We know he has a motivation right now, and he's young, and his motivation right now is to work for the people of his city to make it better, to build things for them, right? To make sure they have a good experience in life, to be sort of that beacon of hope. That's that bat, right? To create, like that bridge and the bridge is very symbolic too. I don't think we've discussed it, but there's a reason that Scott Snyder has him. Making a bridge is a science project, right? 471 01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:37.000 Oh, yeah. No, it's. It's a very symbolic piece. It is his, if you put it into debate terms, his bright line. It is, it is what bridges the gap between the two. It's what helps people to get from point A to point B and makes the movement happen. 472 01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:56.000 And we're also establishing a new value set. But I could also see how this Batman could become corrupted in the future, because if things don't work out, you have. He's using the symbol of hope. If things don't work out, he's had this damage as a kid. Right. But if things don't work out, where does he go? 473 01:01:56.000 --> 01:02:10.000 Where does he go? You think, you think he would, you think he would slide back into previous form of Batman and run, Run back to guns or run to something different? 474 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:28.000 I don't know. Does he just stop? Does he go work for somebody else? Does he try to control everything? You know, if his goal is to make sure everybody is happy, does he keep deciding that. Well, you know what? I couldn't do this myself when I was trying to stop the big guys. So do we need the flock cameras now? Do we need the red light cameras? 475 01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.000 Kingdom come, Batman? 476 01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:31.000 Do we need. 477 01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:36.000 Yeah, we need. We need sentient Batman robots. 478 01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:38.000 Do we

need the cctv? 479 01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:39.000 Yeah. 480 01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:39.000 To. 481 01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:43.000 To be running around the city. To. To be doing everything. 482 01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:44.000 Yeah. 483 01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:45.000 And then. 484 01:02:45.000 --> 01:03:13.000 Yeah, Kingdom come, Batman. Yeah. I. Where, you know, where does this character go? Or does this character go, you know, further, the other direction? Right. We should have a place where we can operate in freedom. And so, you know, where does the character end up? I. I don't, you know, I genuinely don't know. Right. And that's, that's great. I mean, I think that's, that's good storytelling. I don't know yet. And I want to know that. 485 01:03:13.000 --> 01:04:01.000 And that's, that's, that is what makes like this book and this story so good because. Just keeps you invested to want to read the next issue, to want to keep on with the series and then series wise. I mean, honestly, like, you know, you know, you've seen my reading habits. I'm gonna jump back on and, and continue to read more. But like, it is one of those things that this continues to go. And I had, I had conversations with other people that this book series, the storyline wise, draws you in and makes you want to know more and really good. Yeah, yeah, so, yeah. 486 01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:09.000 So whole creative team. You know, I just say we've done four of these. Thank you. 487 01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:11.000 Yeah. A plus. 488 01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:14.000 And in fact, this wasn't Nick Dragoda's art on this one. 489 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:18.000 It wasn't? Oh, wow, you fibbed on me. 490 01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:20.000 No, it was Gabriel Hernandez. 491 01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:24.000 Walter Gabriel knocked it out of the park. 492 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:29.000 Yeah. So they've credited Nick on co authoring this one. 493 01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.000 Okay, so. 494 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:34.000 Or co plotting, which makes sense. 495 01:04:34.000 --> 01:05:02.000 Well, yeah, no, I mean, well, and honestly, like, I mean, but this one, you could see that, and you could see a little shift. I, I saw that when I, when I picked up, when I, when I picked up reading on this issue, I was like, there's a shift in this. But it made sense art wise because you're telling a different portion of the story, and it kind of needs to be different to take you out of the main story to explain what's going on in a sense. Right. 496 01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:06.000 And Gabriel, both penciled and inked. 497 01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:22.000 And honestly, like, even though it was a, a little, a little different, it marries up with everything that's going on so well. It is so good. Who did the colors? Because these colors are fantastic. 498 01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:28.000 Yeah. Oh, that's what I was about to say. And Frank Martin on the colors was these color, the colors were fantastic. 499 01:05:28.000 --> 01:06:20.000 Honestly,

like, people, I think you sleep on colors so much. Like, if you, if you are paying attention to who's coloring your books, if you are reading a book and you're like, man, this just stands up so good. It is because the coloring is, is done by somebody who can make it pop and make it look good. A lot of people can color. A lot of people can do things. Oh, I can color. Yeah. I can color too, but I can't make a book look like this. And, and this, it, it, it makes it, it just puts a tone on the story. And the way that the, this, this, the way that he, he put the colors in on the story itself, it just made the bright parts bright, the dark parts dark, and the darker parts darker. 500 01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:44.000 Yep. So it's, it's, the story is, is good. And we'll get some of our questions answered in issue five. They start to wrap some of the things up in five and six. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, honestly, if you were, if you're gonna relaunch Batman, which is what they're doing. 501 01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:45.000 Yeah. 502 01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:48.000 I couldn't ask for a better start. 503 01:06:48.000 --> 01:07:06.000 You, you really can't? I mean, like, this is this. I, okay, I, I, I slept on this. No lies, listeners. I am kicking myself for not picking 504 01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:10.000 this up sooner you're saying that you're as lame as Nightmaster? 505 01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:23.000 I am as lame as nightmaster. Dan. 100 correct. Lame. What's his. What's his power set? What's his. What's his. I mean, like, what's his ability? 506 01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:24.000 He has a flaming sword. 507 01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:28.000 Flaming sword. But what. What's his damage? 508 01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:31.000 He's Nightmaster. Ask Gail. 509 01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:32.000 Okay. 510 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:34.000 Ask Gail. Simone. Yep. 511 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:40.000 I'll send a message. How come Nightmaster's so weak in this game? 512 01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:44.000 How come Nightmaster so weak in general? Just ask Gail that straight up. 513 01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:47.000 Why isn't it. Why is Nightmares so weak? 514 01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:48.000 Anyway? 515 01:07:48.000 --> 01:08:02.000 Ah, Dan, I appreciate that you brought this to the show that you got me wanting to talk about this and read this because this good stuff, by 516 01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:14.000 the way, about things we're supposed to read. Have you gone to the comic shop and ordered the second printing of Legion of Superheroes Number one? Because, in fact, there are no first printings anymore. 517 01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:20.000 So my work schedule has drastically changed. I will, I guess, go tomorrow. 518 01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:24.000 All right. And. And make sure you get the Jonah Hex ordered, too, because I will. 519 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:43.000 I will drive up there on my way back home and I will. I'll do the weird loop and go. Go get whatever I can while I'm there. I will go support the shop and I'll buy

all the books that I have been sleeping on. 520 01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:44.000 Which shop are you going to? 521 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:52.000 I am going to. Oh, shoot. I was about to call it his old name. 522 01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:53.000 Federal Way. 523 01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:56.000 Yeah. Why can't I think of its new name? I am. 524 01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:59.000 You could just meet. You could just meet me there tomorrow. 525 01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:03.000 I can meet you there tomorrow. Well, I don't think you're gonna be there at, like, 1:30. 526 01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.000 No, I'm gonna be there around 4. 527 01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:15.000 Yeah, I mean, I. I am. I. I'm working a weird schedule because I have a phone call with people in China. 528 01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:16.000 Wow. 529 01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:16.000 Big. 530 01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:17.000 Big shot. 531 01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:18.000 I know. 532 01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:18.000 Big shot. 533 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:28.000 Yeah, I know. Oh, my gosh. Why can't I remember the name? Dan, Look. 534 01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.000 Look, Greg. 535 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:31.000 What is that? 536 01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:32.000 Where's Teal? 537 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:33.000 Where's Teal? 538 01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.000 There's no Teal. It's Clarion. The witch boy. 539 01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:38.000 Oh. Oh, Witch boy. 540 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:45.000 Shouldn't Teekle be on his shoulders? It's the best part of Clarion. Why, every good witch needs a cat, right? 541 01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:47.000 Oh, yes. 542 01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:49.000 Anyway, you were saying? 543 01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:53.000 I'm trying to think of. I can't think of the name of the shop now. 544 01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:54.000 That's hilarious. 545 01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:58.000 I know. They changed their name and now I can't remember their name. 546 01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:04.000 Well, you can come back next week and let everybody know. 547 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:09.000 No, I'm gonna find out right now. 548 01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:17.000 Well, while Greg looks up the name of the shop, it's probably a good time to. One mention. One more time. 549 01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:22.000 Phil. 550 01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:38.000 Oh my God, I'd love to train with you in New York. I mean, if you're in Washington, I'll. I'll take you to the gym too, so we can come lift bags together. Heavy bags together and everything else. Anyway, you were saying, Greg? 551 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:57.000 Midgard Comics and Games. That's where I'm going tomorrow. Federal Way. Midgards Comics and Games. If you're there around 2, 2:30, you might see Greg at the shop. Planning on doing a pop by pop in, picking up some stuff. 552 01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:01.000 So you're gonna pop in right when they're sorting their order? 553 01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:15.000 Exactly. That's what I plan. You know, honestly, back in the day when it was Fantasium and Paula ran the shop, I would just. I would honestly. I mean, like, I hung out all the time. She was like, do you just want to work here? 554 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:16.000 She's like, go away. 555 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:31.000 Like, and. And it was like right before I got this job and I was like, I'm getting a job, a different job. I can't work here. I felt bad because honestly, like, what is, what is the dream? The dream really is to work at a comic shop. 556 01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:32.000 Right. 557 01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:49.000 So. And. Or either work at or own one. And like I. And it was right there. But I could have been working with all of my friends. But. 558 01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:55.000 Well, speaking of which, I think I've discovered something. I'm gonna have to throw this card away. 559 01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:56.000 What is that? 560 01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.000 It doesn't have the correct name on it. 561 01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:04.000 Who? What? Who is. I can't see it. I. The glare. Shazam. 562 01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:08.000 Yeah, it's the wrong name. They miss as a misprint. 563 01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:14.000 It's a misprint. It means it's worth more money. Dan, better put that in a sleeve. Better believe. 564 01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:19.000 Well, I'm taking it out of sleeves right now. Put it in, Crinkle some sleeves. 565 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:23.000 Grade it. Grade it there. 566 01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:39.000 So. All right, well, on that note. Okay, so we are. We're almost done. We are so close to being done. In fact, we only have a couple of more things to talk about. Number one. 567 01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:40.000 Yeah. 568 01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:42.000 If you are a fan of comic books. 569 01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:43.000 Yes. 570 01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:45.000 And you are a fan of Greg. 571 01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:48.000 Oh, me? 572 01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:49.000 Yeah. 573 01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:51.000 Oh, yeah. 574 01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:53.000 And you're a fan of Travis. 575 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.000 Yeah. 576 01:12:55.000 --> 01:13:09.000 You should go to guy who's down the show. Comics books, Comic Overcast, comicbooks dot com. Yeah, let me get that right again. Yeah. Over. That's three words, right? Overcast, Comic, comic books. But it's all one word. 577 01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:12.000 Yeah. Dot com. 578 01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:17.000 Yeah. So. Oh, man, I am in so much trouble. 579 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:18.000 What did you do? 580 01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:25.000 Oh, there's. There's something. Just got a message. Ah, shoot. 581 01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:26.000 Did you. All right, well, Steak. 582 01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:40.000 Did you do something wrong? I did make. I'll tell you in a second show. Yeah, I know I did something. Well, anyway, you get started. 583 01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:41.000 Yeah. 584 01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.000 Greg wrote that with Travis. 585 01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:45.000 I did. 586 01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:57.000 Won Brett Wadelli on art, but. Yeah.

And you could learn more about the future. Amazing book coming out. Albert Pun. 587 01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:58.000 Yeah. 588 01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:01.000 Catastrophe. Return of Alex Reign. Oh, what? 589 01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:03.000 The Catastrophe of Return of Alex Reign. 590 01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:06.000 That's the book title, right? I finally got it right. 591 01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:15.000 No, he did not get it right. It is not right. Again. Again. We're gonna have to have Travis on the show again to set you straight, Dan. 592 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:17.000 We have to have Travis on the show. 593 01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:21.000 Travis is gonna have to come back on the funny book forensics. 594 01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:24.000 Are you sure to set you straight? 595 01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:32.000 Yeah. I don't know if he can set you straight, though. Well, Mickey. Correct. 596 01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:42.000 Yeah. Oh, and. Oh, and we just got a message from listener Jason. 597 01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:44.000 Yeah. Who will. 598 01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.000 Who? I've been on his podcast before. 599 01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:48.000 Yes. 600 01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:53.000 He said he's a little bit nervous about the new hex. It's going to be supernatural in nature. 601 01:14:53.000 --> 01:15:06.000 Oh, like the show supernatural. It's going to have two brothers on it and they're going to be driving, I don't know, an Impala around with, like, crossbows and I don't know what that means. 602 01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:18.000 We'll find out, but it could be bad. Well, we will go ahead and note that you can also find Greg at the Retro Emporium in Kent, Washington. 603 01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:19.000 It's true. 604 01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:27.000 If you want to talk to Jiu Jitsu lawyer Paul, you could always have the phone number looked up ahead of time. 605 01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:29.000 Oh, what's the phone number, Dan? 606 01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:30.000 Because that would be smart. 607 01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:35.000 Tell me the phone number. You should. I want the phone number. Is it start with 253? 608 01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:36.000 It does start with 253. 609 01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:45.000 I knew that. Part 4475-2536-5644-7575. 610 01:15:45.000 --> 01:16:00.000 You talk to the wonderful Kelly and get yourself an appointment. If you're having some employment law problems or some other issues, here's a question right now, licensed in Washington, California, and maybe in the future, New York, New York. 611 01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:06.000 I'd love the fact that he'd be licensed in New York. Do you know how many book publishers are in New York? 612 01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:10.000 That would be. That might be useful to you someday if you ever wrote things. 613 01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:25.000 Shut up. No, I was gonna. I was gonna ask here's a question. Say you are going to the doctor, right? Or some appointment. 614 01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:27.000 Say an eclipso. 615 01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:29.000 An eclipso. Oh, man. 616 01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:30.000 On the way. 617 01:16:29.000 --> 01:17:04.000 An eclipso is like, hey, your. Your co. Payment is $30, but. And you pay $30. But then there. And. And they make you sign. Calypso makes you sign a thing that says that your payment is $30. And then they send you a. You were late to payment for $40 because you needed to pay $40. Could Paul represent you if you signed a thing that said you were paying $30, but they want you to pay $40? 618 01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:20.000 In fact, he could. And bam. In fact, Paul, in the past, I did a lot of the research actually on this one, but I believe that you were aware of this. I had a zombie debt collector come after me. 619 01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:21.000 Yes. 620 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:24.000 Stupidly co Signed on someone's student loans. 621 01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:25.000 Yeah. 622 01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:31.000 Then stopped paying them. And then I had to make an agreement with that company to pay the balance of $15,000 thousand dollars. 623 01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:33.000 Good Lord. 624 01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:50.000 I paid that balance of $15,000. And then they sold the debt to another company and that company came after me for $2,194, which was the interest we agreed that I didn't have to pay. Wow. 625 01:17:50.000 --> 01:18:01.000 So somewhere they believe that you needed to pay them $2,000 that wasn't there for $15,000 that you shouldn't have had to pay on. Because it wasn't really your debt. 626 01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:11.000 So in fact. In fact, we didn't have to go to court or anything. Paul reached out to that company and I settled with them for $1,000. 627 01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:12.000 Wow. 628 01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:25.000 For harassing me and bugging me and pulling my credit and invading my privacy illegally. And then another company did the same thing and then. And we settled for $2,500. 629 01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:26.000 I like it. 630 01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:29.000 And then that same company did the same thing again. 631 01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:30.000 What? 632 01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:33.000 And we settled for $7,500. 633 01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:34.000 Oh my gosh. 634 01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:40.000 And if they ever bug me again, I have a piece of paper that says they will pay me $7,500. 635 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:43.000 Oh wow. That is so. 636 01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:55.000 Yes. If a. If a debt collection company has come after you and they are harassing you, we can absolutely represent you. I. 637 01:18:55.000 --> 01:19:13.000 Well, you know the Squatcho man, he had to go. He had deal. That's why he hasn't been around. He heard his. He hurt his leg and he's been laid up for a while in the Himalayas, hanging out with his Himalayan friends there. 638 01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:15.000 His Himalayan sea salt? 639 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:18.000 Yeah. Well, no, they. They. You know, they put the sea salt on everything. 640 01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:20.000

Like. Likes pink things all the time. 641 01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:24.000 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so they, but. But he's been resting and so I 642 01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:26.000 thought about the Squatch a man. It's that kind of guy. 643 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:27.000 He's. 644 01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:29.000 Anyway, anyway. 645 01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:51.000 Oh yeah, yeah. So he, he had to go to physical therapy and physical therapy said that he owed all this money for appointments that, that, that he paid for because you know, I'm a nice guy and I give him money to pay for those physical therapy appointments. 646 01:19:51.000 --> 01:20:16.000 Well if a debt collector is coming after the squacho man and it's for a debt that they have no evidence that he actually owes and can't create a trace for it and can't establish it and he has the right to question both that debt collector and a right to question the original person collecting the debt. And this is something you can do on your own certainly. But sometimes it helps to have a lawyer. 647 01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:25.000 Then I'm going to tell the Squatch a man to give Paul a call. I 25344 648 01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:29.000 come on. Wow. You've like I'm ways I was laying 649 01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.000 you up with the rest of the number. 650 01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:34.000 Yeah, well I'm way off of that. I already closed the number down. 651 01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:39.000 So come on, you know, this is the, this is the deal. We do the thing where I, I didn't know. 652 01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:43.000 I didn't know we were doing the number again. There's no prep, no preparation for that at all. 653 01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:46.000 I mean it's not in the notes but it's in the. 654 01:20:46.000 --> 01:22:13.000 It's 2532-5656-6564-5447 five do you just messed it up. Let's try that again. 253-656-4475 that's the number. And I will say Paul, Paul does a lot of employment law right now. But if you, if you reach out he can also, you know, refer you out to somebody else that can get you some help. And don't try to do these things with these debt collectors alone. Don't go online and look up how do I, how do I fuck with debt collectors? Yeah, just get a professional take care of it for you. There are statutory fines for debt collectors doing illegal acts. And a nice strongly worded letter from a lawyer can take care of that for you. And sometimes it's even worth say, you know, know I'm not soliciting Paul for this. I want to be very clear. But debt collecting, serious stuff you can. Sometimes it's even worth just to pay a lawyer the like, you know, a couple hundred dollars to write a letter for you and have that sent out. So 100%. Do it, people and do something about it. Don't sit on that letter, you know, especially when they're trying to collect illegal debts. You need to do something. So anyway, this, this, this legal moment was brought to you by no one because I don't give legal advice. But what I will say is do not sit on

a debt collector's letter if you don't and if you don't, genuine, if you genuinely don't owe that debt, go after them. They're scumbags. Them. They're absolute scumbags. 655 01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:16.000 Put them in a leg lock and then throw. 656 01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:19.000 Yeah. Or just, you know, they're scumbags. I'll just say. 657 01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:21.000 Yeah. All right. 658 01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:33.000 So I think we've, we've covered a lot tonight. We've covered debt collection for way too long. I know what happens to you if you buy too many of these DC cards. Yep. 659 01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:35.000 You gotta sleeve them. 660 01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:37.000 Yeah. And then unsleeve them and then sleeve them again. 661 01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:46.000 You gotta unsleeve them and then re sleeve them. How many cards came pre sleeve that you have to unsleeve to re sleeve? 662 01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:49.000 Unfortunately, none of them came pre sleeved, which, you know, you could actually do 663 01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:57.000 that you already you that you had to get the cards unsleeved and then sleeve them to them in the new sleeve. 664 01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:01.000 Yep. So pre sleeving. 665 01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:02.000 Go pre sleeping. 666 01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:08.000 You know, I'm gonna leave that whole debt collection part in this podcast because I really think it's an important thing for people to understand. 667 01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:19.000 It is important. And I honestly brought it up because it's a real. Is a real question and it was a real. It's a real situation that I think some of our listeners data might not know it right now. 668 01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:21.000 It's a real situation. 669 01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:30.000 They know somebody that could be in that situation and they're going to hear it on the show and it's going to come back to them and they're going to be like, God damn. 670 01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:31.000 Yeah. 671 01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:31.000 Where I hear that. 672 01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:40.000 And in fact, a. A person that you coached on a debate team actually had their identity stolen this year. 673 01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:41.000 Oh, geez. 674 01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:45.000 And had to go through that. Somebody bought a truck in their name. 675 01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:46.000 Oh my gosh. 676 01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:54.000 Three states away and had to go through all that. And it is a pain in the butt. Here's a piece of non legal advice. 677 01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:55.000 Yeah. 678 01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:59.000 Everybody should know. Lock your credit. 679 01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:00.000 Lock it. 680 01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:51.000 Sorry. Now freeze it. Sorry, sorry. Lock is the wrong word. Freeze it. Your credit with all three major credit bureaus. That'd be Experian, Equifax and Transunion. You can go to Their website freeze your credit. What that does is if somebody applies for credit in your name. Yeah. They cannot run the credit report because your credit is frozen. And then they have. You have to unfreeze it. So can you still get credit? Yes. You just. It's really easy. You just go to the website, you unfreeze it. I bought a car last year. All I had to do was go to the. The day I bought the car. I went and unfroze my credit for one day, bought the car, left was done, and then went back on my business. And then my credit and, you know, credit was frozen again. So don't leave, you know, it's a scary world out there. Don't leave your credit unlocked and be happy and love the Batman book. And I'm gonna say this on what 681 01:24:51.000 --> 01:25:13.000 you just said, that that coincides with if you're. If you're. If you're like email or any other thing has been, like, hacked or you feel like it's been compromised in any way, sh. Shape or form, your phone's been stolen, any of those things, do the same thing. 682 01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:14.000 Take action. 683 01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:21.000 Because if you don't, you're going to end up in a world of hurt. Same thing happened to my wife. 684 01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:23.000 So change those passwords. 685 01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:24.000 Change them. 686 01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:28.000 Do the annoying two factor authentication. I know it's hard to do it. 687 01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:30.000 Be like beefy Batman. 688 01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:36.000 Get sprawling and be like beefy Batman and help yourself and help others. So that's. 689 01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:37.000 Yeah. 690 01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:49.000 And, you know, I just feel spirited after that beefy Batman book. Absolute Batman number four. Great book. Good book. We should wrap this thing up. I think we're. We're in. Because I will keep straying off onto current events right now. 691 01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:50.000 Yeah. 692 01:25:49.000 --> 01:26:01.000 But just remember, folks, I have one thing to leave you with today. The Atlanta Hawks NBA team is not the Iowa Hawkeyes women's basketball team. That's all I have to say. 693 01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:02.000 Wow. 694 01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:11.000 Everybody have a wonderful night or day listening to us. All right. Jack Smith, we love you. Keep prosecuting, buddy. 695 01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:19.000 Bye.