התמלול המלא של FIVEAA Breakfast with Will & Stacey - 25 August 2026

it yesterday about the bird flu and indeed the algall bloom and the biblical sort of plague feeling of the whole thing. Are we sure this isn't the flood right now? What percentage chance do you give it that this is the early stage of the flood? The rain, yeah, I think we've like five chance. It's been unbelievable, not in the sense that it's been heavy, isn't bucketed down. It hasn't been the sort of rain that he's suddenly find you've got a broken tile. It just hasn't stopped. 00:02:58 Speaker 9: No, and it's really annoying for anyone who wants to get out and go for a walk, anyone with kids. I'm trying to look for something to do this afternoon with Molly. You can't go to the playground. At the moment. 00:03:07 Speaker 7: You might be okay this afternoon, but another four millimere to say maybe not, it's entirely it's if it's like it has been, it might. I mean, actually it's four to ten forecast so and there's a marine wind warning, so we wouldn't go walking down the beach Gulfs and Vincent. Oh yeah, no, no, this doesn't look good at all either. All right, there's lots to talk about with the weather Bureau very very shortly. 00:03:29 Speaker 10: It's a really weird one, isn't. 00:03:30 Speaker 11: I mean, well, it's still winter technically. 00:03:33 Speaker 10: Isn't that weird? 00:03:34 Speaker 7: It's not weird. It's just that it's just the consistency of it. It doesn't feel like the sort of rain we get in Adelaide. It's always patchy, or it's one big thunderstorm and a bit of a downpour, and then this is just all day rains almost like tropics, what you expect, which. 00:03:49 Speaker 10: Just hasn't been cold. 00:03:50 Speaker 9: It hasn't been Today morning was quite warmish. This morning felt okay as well, it wasn't It wasn't freezing. 00:03:59 Speaker 7: Thirteen point five agrees at the moment. Actually it's entire it's actually really nice outside. It the right and as we had seem Daddo said before the break twenty eight millimeters. It's not as though it's not torrential. It's just unending, unyielding. Yep. 00:04:15 Speaker 9: Well, hopefully there's an end to it soon. I'd love to get out of the house. 00:04:18 Speaker 7: Yeah, it has been. It has been stifling. 00:04:21 Speaker 9: Can I mention something? We must have very different social media algorithms. I have not seen one clip about robot. 00:04:29 Speaker 7: You haven't seen robot sprinting and running into a No, nothing malfunctioning. 00:04:34 Speaker 11: Ever pops up in my streams. The only time I see it is when you send it to. 00:04:39 Speaker 10: Our work chat. 00:04:39 Speaker 7: You're in for a trait. You're in for a trait. They are doing everything from running which is obvious to tai chi in table tennis. 00:04:49 Speaker 11: Random, How do you win tai chi in the Olympics. 00:04:52 Speaker 7: I don't even know how you'd win tai Chi in the Human Olympics. 00:04:55 Speaker 10: Well, no exactly. 00:04:56 Speaker 9: I don't think it's the thing you win, because more of a mindset, isn't it. 00:05:00 Speaker 7: Maybe they rate the accuracy of the moves or something to that other. Maybe it's more like diving for robots. I don't know. I don't know why to hear this happens. It's the second one they've ever done. 00:05:12 Speaker 10: It really confuses me. 00:05:14 Speaker 7: Well, I want to ask a futurologist about this, because the first thing that occurs to me always when it comes to humanoid robots and they look, I mean, it is spectacular what they can fall over and they get kicked, and they jump up and they run around a track and it sometimes that doesn't go so well. But one the other day ran faster than Usain Bolt, which was reported as some sort of Wow, it's a milestone. But you know, so does a Tesla, and that too, is just a robot driving around. 00:05:37 Speaker 11: This is what I don't understand the fascination. 00:05:39 Speaker 9: Of course, robots are going to be better at things than we are because we can design them to be, so that's right, But. 00:05:43 Speaker 7: Why do they have to the thing that my stumbling block of this is what is why do they need to look like us? Like if they made a humanoid robot that can fly, I would say, well that's cool, so's a plane. It's just a robot that can fly that's been optimized for flight, like a Tesla has been optimized for driving. So you're making a less efficient version of a robot that already does something really well for us, which I don't entirely get. 00:06:09 Speaker 9: I know that the smarts and the brains that have gone into designing these robots that can do Olympic level tai chi I think would be much better used. You know, I don't know, just looking into brain cancer for example, childhood dementia, any of the above. Potentially I think they would be better used looking at it things. 00:06:28 Speaker 7: That maybe you start with robot tai chi and then they become robot brain surgeons at some point in time. Maybe have you seen there seems to be and this is a real divide, it's our listeners form. This would be almost a jury at some point in time. Have you seen the advertising at all? And again maybe not. This is my peculiar, weird algorithm that I'm just discovering of robot home assistance, And there are these businesses now that want to sort of that. They can do the dishes, they can unload your dishwasher, make your robot. 00:06:57 Speaker 10: I could get around, is it. 00:06:59 Speaker 7: Though, because it's really creepy? 00:07:01 Speaker 10: Is it? 00:07:02 Speaker 7: It looks really weird? 00:07:03 Speaker 10: Well, I've got a robot vacuum. 00:07:05 Speaker 7: They're good. Orlando Broom doesn't say, this is again, where can the humanoid v just device divide happens? Because it's just this little circle or whatever shape yours is that cruises along the Yeah, what about some arms and legs and walking around? 00:07:19 Speaker 9: And I don't want it to be what's the word where it talks back? 00:07:25 Speaker 7: Yeah, interactive? 00:07:26 Speaker 10:

Interactive? 00:07:26 Speaker 9: I just want I want to be able to tell it what to do and it does it. I don't want the conversation. Yeah, I don't want you to have a personality. 00:07:34 Speaker 7: Yeah, you want it to be like, yeah, a twelfth century serf. 00:07:37 Speaker 9: Yeah, let's go back to those days. I'm joking everyone, don't cancel me. 00:07:48 Speaker 7: See a lot of people the moment you see these sort of things go have that sort of what do they call it the uncanny valley. There's psychological phenomenon where people are increasing the things that look slightly human but just are clearly not human make people feel uncomfortable. It's called the uncanny valley, okay, And it's like, if you graph it, the further away it gets from a human, people have no human new reaction to it. If it gets the closer it gets without being completely humanoid, people sort of have this repulse reaction too. 00:08:21 Speaker 10: I can see that. 00:08:22 Speaker 7: So would you have a robot assistant in your home? 00:08:25 Speaker 9: It depends on I actually think it depends on the tasks it would do. I reckon I'd be able to get over the uncanny valley if it was doing unpacking the dishwasher, doing the washing, folding the washing, putting it away, all of those boring, mundane tasks that take time that you don't want to do. 00:08:41 Speaker 10: I reckon I could get over it. 00:08:42 Speaker 7: My fear is, what if you don't pay the subscription that month? What does it do? Do you wake up with a pillow over your face? I'm just worrying, that's all. 00:08:54 Speaker 9: I have been movies made about this, and I cannot remember the one. I think it's based in Japan, and it's a really good movie. 00:08:59 Speaker 11: Anyway, find it. I'll find it in the break. 00:09:01 Speaker 7: It sounds terrifying, all right, a few texts. One here says try being a trade It's been a terrible year out there in the rain would be shocking. You just wake up on daylight listening cricky. Please not another day speaking of the rain. Yes, our stats man Ben Jordan, it's. 00:09:18 Speaker 9: Now been four hundred and seventy two millimeters of rain for the year, which is one hundred and seven above average to August twenty five, and three hundred and eighty one point four in the last four months, so it's been the wettest May to August since nineteen eighty one. 00:09:33 Speaker 7: Well, there you go. In my lifetime it's never been. This has been the wettest made of August that we've ever had. Andrew says bird. If people are bird lovers, they need to stop feeding birds and leaving out water. It will spread bird flu to household pets. We spoke yesterday about that. The government advice was not that definitive, No, a. 00:09:50 Speaker 10: Bit over the top. 00:09:51 Speaker 9: I think it's definitely going to spread to household Let's not scare people about their dogs. 00:09:55 Speaker 7: It said, if you have it, if you if you have a water in your backyard or you feed the birds, just clean it. Yes, it said cleaner, and obviously if there's a sick bird, don't let your pet anywhere near it. 00:10:05 Speaker 11: And at the moment, I mean you don't really need to have it. Some water out for the birds right now, No. 00:10:11 Speaker 7: The birds have I think the birds are. The birds are well hydrated as we slight the rest of us. And Peter says, the jetson's closer than you think they are, except for flying cars. Peter, that's the rule letdown in the advance of technology, all. 00:10:23 Speaker 9: Those people building robots humanoids. 00:10:26 Speaker 7: Let's get some flying cars happening, the flying cars going, then you can negotiate. Pretend you're roundabout. 00:10:31 Speaker 11: Can you imagine dealing with the Adelaide City Council on the speed limits. 00:10:36 Speaker 7: You won't be able to fly over North Adelaide. That a bit the one rule nineteen after. 00:10:39 Speaker 3: Six, knockdown Bill two with metro homes, Sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment. 00:10:46 Speaker 4: Metro homes. They do it all for you. 00:10:48 Speaker 5: Will goodings with Stacy Lee. This is five double a. 00:10:52 Speaker 7: Breakfast twenty three after six. It is officially the wettest May to August in forty five years. And sympathy this morning on the text line for people in various lines of work. Trading's got to mention a little bit earlier Quintin has suggested some sympathy for parking inspectors that are out there giving out in this weather, which is not a line of work. And Quintin knows this, but it doesn't elicit a lot of sympathy from the listeners. But they are certainly out there in the rain. At the moment, I'm not sure if there's any what the level of sympathy is for Sunrise TV reporters, either Hayden Nelson's out there Morning Aiden one of guys are very little. 00:11:34 Speaker 12: But I have plenty of sympathy though for this driver who's been caught up this morning and we've been having him on our coverage this morning on the corner of Heinmasts Road and Pages Flat Road, which is there's no damn here, there's no river here previously until tonight, and this morning it is flooded. There is hundreds of meters of flood water along here. And this one driver, he was on his way to work very early this morning, about five, just before five o'clock, and he's become a cropper. He's become stranded in the water in his little Suzuki and he's managed to make his way out, but there's no one else here. It's pitched black. But we sort of got wind of there being some storm damage around this area. My cameraman's driving along AND's just found him on the road waving for assistance, so he's helped him sort of out of the floodwaters. He's like he's walked out of the floodwaters. He's helped him into our car and he's been waiting in our car until police arrived. His name's Peter, said he was caught off go completely. He drives this road all the time. Didn't expect to see it in waste deep water. But it's certainly what the scenes

like you guys have been describing overnight. Right here, it's been about fifty miles of rain in the past twenty four hours. But I think right across the southern suburbs and right across the beaches or Dinga Beach, Celi's Beach, up to Paul Lungar and into Alaga as well, leavy of rain this morning. It's just been bucketing down throughout the night, really lashing the residence here and the roads here. 00:13:09 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, to that point and thank you for that, Hayden. We have sympathy for you here mate, been out there. We've got the nice, warm confines of the studio. Here, Hayden Nelson doing God's work for sunrise out there on the road for us. There is initial minor flood warning for the Torrens River that the Weather Bureau of put out at about twenty to ten last night. Minor flooding possible along First Creek at Waterfall Gully Road. Moderate to locally heavily heavy rainfall has been observed across the Torrens catchment. This has caused river and creek level rises, with minor flooding possible along First Creek at waterfol Gully Road from late Monday evening. The other warning they've got out this morning is a marine wind warning Strong wind warning for Adelaide Metropolitan Waters, Central Coast, South Central Coast, Spencer Gulf, Gobson, Vincent and investigators. Straight. Can't imagine too many boaties are in a rush to get the boat out of the water at the moment. But if it was crossing your mind, maybe the storm churns up the seafloor and you can catch different stuff. I don't know I'm not a fishow, but if you were thinking about it, there is a marine win warning for Adelaide metropolitan waters as well, so not the best day to get out and do that. Rain wise, the official forecast is four to ten millimeters today, so we've had a bit of that already. When we speak to the bureau get a sense of how much more is on the way, but it's got to stop at some time and when it does. Actually we are looking at a forecast. If you are over the rain, you're going to like because there's no more rain on the forecast after today, nothing not even a drizzle. So tomorrow seventeen sunny, on Thursday, nineteen, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one, no rain, So that's going to start to feel a bit like spring. But Winda isn't letting us go without a fight at the moment, and it is wet out there and windy and there is some flooding. So we'll continue to follow those stories over the course of the morning. Tom Ren's in the studio. Good morning to be inside, just toalking about sport called gliol Now order a new door with operator before the end of September and receive two extra handsets. What have you ready? 00:15:05 Speaker 13: Morning Wire, Morning Stacey, Zach Butters, As we suspected, he announced it yesterday, so he is wanting to trade. It's really interesting now, I mean this has been happening all year, so let's not kid ourselves. 00:15:17 Speaker 14: But how do they get this done? So Geelong it's going. 00:15:20

Speaker 7: To be Geelong, isn't it? Ready? 00:15:21 Speaker 14: Well, Geelong won him. But the thing is what if Gilot and got to play? 00:15:25 Speaker 7: How often do they miss out? 00:15:26 Speaker 14: They don't often, But. 00:15:30 Speaker 11: If you were what in the farm do they have to offer today? 00:15:32 Speaker 15: Yeah? 00:15:33 Speaker 16: Right? 00:15:33 Speaker 13: The thing is from a poor perspective, Porters saying well that's fine, what are you going to give us, whereas Richmond can say we got this sway the picks and you know, players and all things that you know. It's like going into the candy shop with fifty bucks and mum and dad, whereas Geelong you go in there and. 00:15:50 Speaker 7: You've got one dollar. 00:15:51 Speaker 14: Yeah, well what is that? 00:15:52 Speaker 7: Two late picks in compromised drafts? Gelong, I've got absolutely nothing to offer, just the reality. Yeah. But unfortunately, the way the AFL works, where the plague gets where he goes your stuffed. 00:16:02 Speaker 13: Yeah, so really interesting how it all plays. I hope Port play firm. I think they will, but yeah, how lately, how does it go? This one could go really late. 00:16:14 Speaker 7: And are they trying to get Toby Green as well? 00:16:16 Speaker 17: Jawn? 00:16:17 Speaker 14: Yeah, they don't missed many. 00:16:19 Speaker 11: Where do they get all the money? 00:16:20 Speaker 7: Yeah? 00:16:21 Speaker 13: Well, well they're about to have seven hundred and fifty thousand freed up by Tyson Stengele, so they have a bit of money there. 00:16:27 Speaker 11: Well, the reports around Zach Butter's that's not gonna doesn't. 00:16:31 Speaker 7: Go along way and Butter's money, does it? 00:16:33 Speaker 10: It's a month's worth of paid. 00:16:35 Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, exactly, So keep an eye on that. The Essendon footag club has announced its new coach and Mark McVay. 00:16:42 Speaker 14: I think it's good. He's a former player. 00:16:44 Speaker 13: I know it's not going to appease a lot of the James Hurd followers and lovers at Essendon, but I think they'll hopefully be able to unite that club. They felt like they've been stagnant for fifteen years since they started, you know, sort of debark all. So that has happened, and I don't know, like maybe I'm being a bit old fashioned and a bit out of touch, particularly given what's happened in the last week. 00:17:05 Speaker 14: And it's I get it, it's not a great look. 00:17:07 Speaker 13: But the Richmond stuff, I'm not as outraged, So I kind of think it's just guys flicking towers. They weren't. They're in a private property, they were being filmed. There was no one else outside of themselves being there. Yeah, look, it's pretty juvenile, but I don't think it's I don't think it's a hanging offense really, but maybe I on my own. 00:17:25 Speaker 9: Really yeah, Oh, I just saw that and I thought, what is wrong with footballers? It's twenty twenty six, and if the reports are true that what they were doing was mocking the sexual assault allegations and mocking the situation with the Swans, what is going through their heads? Mocking victims of sexual assault is never okay. I don't understand how that can even be a thing that would go through their minds. And this all plays into this attitude of that boys will be boys and their footballers and what should we expect. It's totally not okay. When is mocking sexual assault allegations? 00:17:57 Speaker 5: Ever? 00:17:57 Speaker 13: Okay, I didn't see it as that an I hadn't read that, So look, that's. 00:18:02 Speaker 9: I just think it totally trivializes such a serious matter, and it's already a really difficult time for so many players within the AFL and the afl W and anytime anything like this comes up, so many women will be impacted by it, and for footballers just to go and do that, well, if the reports are true. 00:18:18 Speaker 7: That that's what they would do it, Well, I've seen that. Have you seen the vision? Yeah, it feels like a sort of a raw schat test for the whole thing. I think if you're really outraged by it, you see, I wouldn't. I don't know if it's necessarily conclusive that that's what they're referring to me. 00:18:33 Speaker 9: Well, that's what I'm saying. If that's true, it might not be and we'll never know. Yeah, because it's footy boys on a footy trip, and it constantly just gets downplayed, is that boys will be boys and it's footballers. 00:18:46 Speaker 11: What do you expect, whether you like it or not. 00:18:48 Speaker 9: These people are in positions of power and there are young kids out there who do look up to them, and that sort of behavior totally minimizes and trivializes what's been in the media. 00:18:57 Speaker 7: But the only thing I would only and what you say is yeah, it's totally legitimate stability. 00:19:03 Speaker 9: There are people's eyes on them and their phones. It's twenty twenty six. 00:19:06 Speaker 7: Come on, well, yeah, but there a private function, it doesn't matter. Yeah, and maybe this goes to your point station, but if every one of my private conversations was filmed and then played publicly, there would doubtless be things that would be incriminating among them. 00:19:22 Speaker 14: I'd be affair right now. 00:19:24 Speaker 9: But isn't that the sorry, and I don't want to make it No, no. 00:19:26 Speaker 7: No, it's good. 00:19:27 Speaker 14: No, no, no, I think it's a good conversation to have. 00:19:29 Speaker 11: I don't want to take the tone down. 00:19:31 Speaker 9: But isn't that the issue with this that we have conversations in private where mostly men can say things that would maybe get them in trouble. Then those conversations become so normalised that they become public and they become public behavior where now men outside whipping each other and we think it's okay. 00:19:50 Speaker 7: Only for some exactly. Yeah, Like, I think I think most people know where the line is, and I think there cay be if. 00:20:01 Speaker 9: You're saying it in

private, though, Yeah, and you worry that that could get released publicly. 00:20:06 Speaker 15: Is that? 00:20:06 Speaker 11: Okay? 00:20:10 Speaker 7: I just wonder. I wonder who in the world passes the test of every private direction you have been broadcast, are you do you come off. 00:20:21 Speaker 10: As no, Yeah, of course. 00:20:23 Speaker 9: And there will be things that have happened in the past and you think, oh, I shouldn't have said that, whatever, But this is happening now. This is in the context within a week of the Sydney Swans drama, and they're doing this. I just think it's totally irresponsible, it's reckless, it's damaging, and there are women out there watching this who have been or will be, you know, sexual assault victims in the future. So many women have to deal with this and they'll be triggered by it, and it's not okay, Sorry, that's me. 00:20:48 Speaker 10: Sorry to bring the tone down. 00:20:50 Speaker 7: No, it's a good fight to have. All I would say is we have no idea what they were talking about. 00:20:55 Speaker 14: Yeah, exactly so, and a group of. 00:20:59 Speaker 7: Five guys were subject of some serious allegations at. 00:21:01 Speaker 13: The moment, and that's totally unacceptable. Yeah, yeah, what we're hearing there. Yeah, I just thought this was very different. But yeah, it's a good conversation. 00:21:08 Speaker 7: Yeah, well done, good stuff all right, good on heready. 00:21:10 Speaker 14: Thanks guys. 00:21:13 Speaker 3: Knockdown Bill two with Metro Homes, sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment. 00:21:19 Speaker 4: Metro Homes. They do it all for you. 00:21:21 Speaker 7: Will. 00:21:22 Speaker 6: Goodings with Stacy Lee. This is five double a breakfast. 00:21:26 Speaker 7: Eight eight to seven. Mountain of texts have come through in the last ten minutes on zero for eight zero eight thirteen ninety five, Following a conversation we had with Tom Wren regarding this video of Richmond players on their Mad Monday celebration that appears what depends on how you look at it. They may well be making light of the Sydney Swan situation. Whatever they're doing, like whipping and pain and simulation of some sort. And you made the point, Stacy, this is precise to the sort of thing that is not okay. We're going to stack of text on both sides of this. 00:21:57 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I would say if the report's true that what they were doing was mocking the Swan situation. Lots of people disagreeing with me, which is absolutely fine, Nathan. 00:22:07 Speaker 7: It's from fifty to fifty. 00:22:08 Speaker 9: Yeah, Nathan says if it's a private function, who gives a damn. And it's not just men who wouldn't want their private conversations made public, plenty of women too. 00:22:16 Speaker 10: Paul says, stop. 00:22:17 Speaker 9: Acting like a saint, Stacy, and Michael says, I think it's time to stop moralizing Stacy. 00:22:22 Speaker 10: Thank you for that. 00:22:24 Speaker 9: We've got Melinda who says, Stacy, don't say sorry, you're correct Lydia agrees with me. Buffalo Bill agrees with me as well. So yeah, it's pretty split. Lots of people have different opinions. 00:22:33 Speaker 7: Which is what we love. If you can text them in zero to for zero eight thirteen ninety five, or of course and anytime call in and have you say an eight double two to three double o double. Let's talk about the weather. Michael Conway at the Weather Bureau joins us. Michael, I think the question everyone wants to answered is when will the rain stop. 00:22:51 Speaker 18: It shouldn't be long. We've just got a little bit of lingering share activity with the low that's moving. It's kind of near brend at the moment, and it's going to move further to the east fairly quickly, wrapping south south to southwesterly winds around it, and that's what's bringing the showers. In at the moment, but this afternoon it would start easing off. It's pretty light at the moment, but it'll start easing off this afternoon. We had a fee bit of rain yesterday. Adelaide was the fifth highest for August and the highest since nineteen thirty four with twenty nine milimeters. 00:23:25 Speaker 7: Wow, yeah, I. 00:23:27 Speaker 18: Mean the record is eighteen fifty one. The shows how long the records go back with fifty six point six milimeters in August, but I wasn't near too near that, but it was. It was a very wet day and we had plenty of plenty of totals of twenty five to forty five millimeters, even up to higher in the Mount Locky Rangers Lentzwood sixty five. 00:23:46 Speaker 7: How were they recording it back in the eight and fifties, Michael, was a sort of a bucket with a line on it. What sort of thing? We're not sure. We had the Stellbourne screen then. 00:23:53 Speaker 18: Involved a donkey and a paddle and I don't know. 00:23:58 Speaker 7: Sometimes yeah, no, with that is good news. Let's sky. That is a hell of a lot of rain and quite quite a record. It does certainly feel that way, Michael. Thank you, Michael, Conway, the Bureau of Meteorology, let's say to say powl, so you can't stay the Holly Frisbee is on the line. Holly, how about this? We have a driver who's been caught going one hundred and seventy k's an hour in one hundred zone. Where did this happen? 00:24:23 Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm really concerning behavior there, especially in the weather that we've had. Overnight. State Operation Support Branch Police for conducting speed detection duties on the Horrocks Highway just before six pm last night, when they detected a Mazda traveling at one hundred and seventy seven kilometers in one hundred kilometer zone despite the weather conditions that we're experiencing. The vehicle was stopped and the driver, a twenty two year old Kilbar man, was arrested. He was charged with driving at a dangerous speed and other speed related defenses. The man was issued with a twelve month instant loss of license notice and he has been bailed to appear in quart at a later date. 00:24:57 Speaker 11:

Wow, okay, and Holly, what happened at o Away last night? 00:25:01 Speaker 16: So just after seven o'clock last night, please stop hi Mazda station wagon on Eastern Parade for a driver test will be alleged to the driver. A forty nine year old man from Royal Park provided a positive result and check showed whose license had been suspended. The driver was directed to provide another sample of breath analysis, but he failed to comply. He was reported sorry for failing to comply with the breath analysis and issued with a further twelve month immediate loss of license notice and he also will front cord at a later date. 00:25:28 Speaker 7: We've got a suspicious business fire this morning as well. 00:25:31 Speaker 16: Holy about two twenty this morning, police and fire crews were called to Valle Avenue at the Valley View to reports of the fire. Fire crews work quickly to extinguish that blaze and crime scene will be in attendance later today to determine the cause of the fire. And we do ask anyone who witnessed any suspicious activity in that area or has CCTV or dashcam footage to contact crime Stoppers on one eight hundred, triple three, triple zero. 00:25:55 Speaker 7: Stuff. Thank you for that, Holly. Soon he comes to a Holly Frisbee from sapole A. We're going to check traffic back in just a moment. Seven one of the most curious displays I would suggest ever in the history of planet Earth is taking place in China at the moment. It's the second edition of the World Humanoid Games, like the Olympics, just for robots. It started over the weekend. It runs for five days. The you're saying, bolts one hundred meters record was broken, but there's a stack of other events as well, table tennis, boxing, high jump as well. Remarkable what the robots can do, but to what end. Professor Rocky Scoboletti is a futurerologist and author of Perceptive Machines. Rocky, Good morning to. 00:26:36 Speaker 1: You, Good morning well in Stacey, So Rocky. 00:26:39 Speaker 7: It just the bit that confuses me about this is obviously this is wonderful engineering that's on display. But we were discussing earlier. If I want to see a robot go really fast, I'll look at a tesla. Or if I can see a robot fly, generally they look like a plane. What's the what's the achievement here of having and what's the utility of having these machines do things while looking a bit more like humans. 00:27:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fascinating observation that you make their world because when you think about it, the world has already been designed around the human body. And so you know, we don't make human robots human shaped because we're trying to recreate humans per se. We do it because we've spent thousands of years designing the world around the human body. You know, just think about your house stairs, door handles, cupboards, chairs, or in a factory, you know, ladders, workbenches, and so rather than redesigning the entire physical world for machines, we can design machines capable of operating in the human world. 00:27:48 Speaker 11: This is the first time I'm seeing it, Rocky. 00:27:51 Speaker 9: I'm watching the vision on our live stream, which is on Facebook and YouTube. I don't excuse my ignorance here, but why do we need sort of Olympic Games for robots? 00:28:03 Speaker 10: I don't. I don't understand the point of it. 00:28:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in many respects it's you know, we can accept at Stacey as as theater, you know, and I've you know, I've had some enjoyment watching the soccer match, right because you know, if you know, what's a robot learns, you know, I think how to argue with the referee or to you know, overreact perhaps when it gets a tackle, Well, we'll know that artificial intelligence has truly arrived, right, So, so I think, you know, again, we receive it within the spirit I think of you know, these games demonstrating the advancement of the of the technology. 00:28:50 Speaker 7: Where do you imagine we might see humanoid robots first start appearing in our you know, the average person's world, not people that are sort of living at the cutting edge of technology. But where might they first start popping up? Do you imagine? 00:29:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this is fascinating because I think, you know, when we think about it, uh, you know, in the home, there are so many you know, use cases you know for let's just say, artificial intelligence, putting aside how how it manifests. But we're already seeing that in the form of vacuum cleaners and the like, and so you know, when you know, I think when we can see robots performing actual functions and usefulness within the home, you know, I think that's when it's going to be a game change. You know, I don't need a robot that can do a backflip, you know, per se, I need I need one that can change the doner having an emotional breakdown. 00:29:50 Speaker 9: Right, Well, actually, yes, I don't want my robot to be emotional at all. In fact, I don't do we get to a point where that happens. Do we have home robots that do tasks for you, that have personalities and talk back to you and have emotions. 00:30:07 Speaker 10: As scary as that sounds to us. 00:30:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is a fascinating area of relationships, right, you know, imagine having the perfect partner that listens, carefully, remembers your anniversary, and never steals your doner. Right. Humanity could be in trouble here, Stacey, if we get to that point or you know, you might win an argument with a robot, but unfortunately it has a complete transcript of what you said. So we need to be mindful here that these things have some, you know, features that we might find undesirable in the real world. 00:30:44 Speaker 7: It looks like something out of a nine age seventy sci fi, but it's here, rock, you really appreciate your time, mate. That was fascinating pleasure. 00:30:51 Speaker 1: Thanks guys. 00:30:52 Speaker 7: Professor Rocky Scoppole Eddy the future ologist and author of Perceptive

Machines. If you could get a robot to do one mundane household chore, you what would it be? 00:31:01 Speaker 11: That's a great one probably the washing. 00:31:04 Speaker 7: For the washing, washing, folding. 00:31:06 Speaker 9: Can I say the entire processing through the. 00:31:09 Speaker 11: Ironing back up. 00:31:11 Speaker 7: I've got one that I think will be controversial because a lot of people enjoy the process. But weeding. Just to regularly do the weeding would be excellent. That would be so delighted. Go out, little robot, take care of that for it. 00:31:23 Speaker 11: What if I gave you a hedging robot? 00:31:26 Speaker 7: No, that's not, that's my job. I've just started off. I've just discovered. I love that. I'm not giving that up anytime soon. Stephen and counter bary you what's happening out there traffic wise? 00:31:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to head to the Tears turn off. You can't go towards they got the whole beer blocked and roses? 00:31:52 Speaker 7: Did you say driving towards McLaren Vale, Dave. 00:31:57 Speaker 2: They've got lots? 00:32:00 Speaker 7: Okay, all right, left, Thank you for that. I actually didn't note this morning. It felt like, certainly on my community and people were driving a little bit slower given how slippery and wet the roads were. But clearly it's doesn't apply to everyone. And whilst we don't necessarily know what was the case in this one, I guarantee we will get at some point this morning a crash that was as a result of someone not driving to the kish conditions. So be careful out there, folks, and thank you for that traffic update, Steve. We appreciate it. At any time if you see anything eight double two three double o double. Oh is the number Trevor in Seafort is called in morning, Trevor, the. 00:32:32 Speaker 2: AFL authorities are going to China. They want some umpires that can be robots. 00:32:36 Speaker 7: Oh, that makes well, Trevor. Do we think the robots are be any worse? 00:32:42 Speaker 2: You can't argue with them that they rust in the middle of the ground. 00:32:46 Speaker 7: But that is true. This is someone who made the point the other day that with the with the way va not var but camera technology, it's in tennis now we'll never see another John McEnroe because you can't argue with the computer. 00:32:58 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's true. 00:32:59 Speaker 7: So would the sport be better if one and every sort of five hundred calls was wrong just so you could see some of her personality lose their mind in a computer, which I think would actually add to the entertainment value. 00:33:09 Speaker 10: Well, yeah, we don't want it. 00:33:10 Speaker 11: To become so sanitized, right, We love personalities. 00:33:13 Speaker 7: We get don't abuse a poor, you know lines person who's there on for fifteen dollars an hour. But if it's an AI, I personally think, go your hardest, John McEnroe, go your hardest. 00:33:26 Speaker 9: I liked what Rocky said about imagine fighting with a robot that's

got a constant stream of transcript of everything you've said in the past. 00:33:32 Speaker 7: That's terrifying You're not with in that fight, all right? Stun for Top seven before seven. The Top seven before seven inspired by Fountains of Wayne Stacy's Mum. It's the top seven before seven songs with women's names in the title. 00:33:48 Speaker 11: Okay, my mum's favorite song is that? 00:33:51 Speaker 7: Well, it makes perfect sense, doesn't it. 00:33:53 Speaker 10: She loves it. 00:33:54 Speaker 7: Number sevens Inside always good when that one gets a single long gooing at the Crows game. Surprisingly underwhelming for a fifty three thousand strong a crowd on Saturday night. I was expecting more from the Sweet Caroline Usually. Yeah, maybe it was the I'm not sure Number six rock. 00:34:21 Speaker 5: Rock so. 00:34:24 Speaker 7: Ruck said Jim pat category this one. Number five, she's try. 00:34:35 Speaker 5: Here's you hus that just. 00:34:40 Speaker 14: She's close chest and she knows just what. 00:34:44 Speaker 16: It takes to make the problem she gets credit stand up. 00:34:54 Speaker 7: Dead day. You know which one's Patty really likes en List because they run for forty five seconds. Number got your pageant? If you got your pride? 00:35:03 Speaker 14: Don't you know the known? The fools are satisfied. 00:35:07 Speaker 3: Stream on but don't imagine now, Oh when will you really. 00:35:17 Speaker 7: Vienna Waye's what's what's the title? Vienna? What woman's name or no? 00:35:28 Speaker 11: And if it's a woman's name, they're named after the city of. 00:35:31 Speaker 7: The city of Austria. That's a protest in the studio on that. 00:35:33 Speaker 9: Line me a well known woman called Vienna number three name. 00:35:43 Speaker 19: I'm begging of you. 00:35:44 Speaker 20: Please don't take them, Julie, Jolly Joy, Joey, please don't take him. 00:35:56 Speaker 21: Just call. 00:35:59 Speaker 7: Mckenry's been blame for b by the way, it's like to let. 00:36:02 Speaker 9: Everyone know that when I said to name me, give me a woman called nax I can't. 00:36:07 Speaker 1: Age domain it bas Jacob song and make it Bana. 00:36:21 Speaker 6: Me. 00:36:21 Speaker 7: Then to letter on the askin. 00:36:26 Speaker 17: Then you. 00:36:29 Speaker 7: To Magon and the number one spot for songs with a woman's name in the title solid Arrah Barbara Riley, Yes, what's the name of the song? Barbara Riley? 00:36:59 Speaker 14: What the woman's name, Baba, what. 00:37:05 Speaker 10: I'm so cry? 00:37:07 Speaker 5: It is. 00:37:09 Speaker 7: Not sure that top seven out before seven. 00:37:13 Speaker 9: All of that was inspired by Stacy's mom and we didn't even play it. 00:37:16 Speaker 10: Where's Stacy's mom? 00:37:19 Speaker 7: There we go. You know what we're going to shout out for your mum in there. So let's say it all worked out all right the end Top seven four seven, Your thoughts, folks is always there for zero weake thirty ninety five bubber. 00:37:35 Speaker 3: What knockdown bill two with metro Homes, Sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment. 00:37:44 Speaker 4: Metro Homes. They do it all for you, will. 00:37:47 Speaker 6: Goodings with Stacy Lee Lias is five double A breakfast. 00:37:54 Speaker 7: Eight after seven. If you just joined us, you've already missed the highlight of the morning. Our top seven before seven. The recrimination are still coming in. Good luck getting through on eight double two three, double o, double o because phone lines of full Patty and Jess are out there just just batting away complaints and criticisms. Some of them are some of the notable and legitimate criticisms. Hey, Jude was written about Julian Lennon, so they've tried to make the argument the Jude female name, and the category wasn't about who the song was about, It's about the name. I will allow that one, Bubara Riley. It took just the entire newsbreak to find a single woman with the name Bubba. 00:38:30 Speaker 10: And I think wasn't she a psychic from the eighteen hundred? 00:38:32 Speaker 7: Yep? 00:38:32 Speaker 10: Yeah, okay. 00:38:33 Speaker 7: And then some others have sort of just suggested some of the most famous songs of all time didn't make the list. 00:38:41 Speaker 11: What about My Girl Sally by the Police? 00:38:43 Speaker 10: Janie's Got a Gun by Leonard Cohen. 00:38:46 Speaker 9: This person says, got me beat? How Mustang Sally lost out to Vienna and Bubba? 00:38:51 Speaker 7: Scott I think has the most well articulated criticism of how often the list goes. He says, Guys, the keyword in the top seven or seven is top. When you with the most well known ants of all time and then end up with people asking what was it called? You've gone down the wrong path? Thank you, Scott? 00:39:08 Speaker 11: You ever would like a job as a breakfast radio producer? 00:39:11 Speaker 7: Well? The thing nice thing about this is what we do learn whenever this happens is that Patty and Jest take feedback really well. 00:39:18 Speaker 10: In fact, I don't think they're answering calls anymore. 00:39:20 Speaker 7: They're not even looking at us anymore. Hey, thank you to Diane for sitting through a picture of the flooding that's happening. I'm not sure is that your property, Diane, or is that nearby you? It looks spectacle whoever it is, but there shouldn't be a lake there, and there is right now. Sixty two millimeters of rain in the last twenty four hours at Mount Compass. Diane says, as we heard from the bureau in the first hours, at the first hour, twenty nine mills the most rain we've had since nineteen thirty four at this time, so you have to go back to beat that record into the eighteen fifties, at which point I'm not even sure of the efficacy of the record keeping, but it's just suffice to say it's been seriously a little bit more on the way and then it's going to dry out. So if you've had your bill, you're going to really enjoy the back half of this week. Let's get into the news of the day. This is

really interesting. The Australian Financial Review this morning has a story that features an idea, and we love interrogating ideas on five double a breakfast. That is, instead of the federal government's decision to change the manner in which over sixty five is charged for private health insurance or given a rebate for private health insurance, which basically no state government thinks is a good idea, by the way, because they're the ones they have to pick up the slack. When over sixty five suddenly said well I can't afford private health anymore, I'm going to the public system, every state government says, that's great, we didn't budget for that, thank you, albo. So what the private healthcare Australian people have said, Well, instead of doing that and slugging over sixty fives, how about we make the Medicare levy, the tax impost on the highest income earners in Australian more punitive for those that haven't got private health insurance. Because and I thought this was really interesting. There has been a dramatic increase in the number of high income earners who have now decided they will pay the Medicare levy surcharge instead of having private health. It is increased to more than nine hundred thousand people. Wow, So we're talking about a large group of people who make a lot of money, who have actually just said private health not worth it anymore? Should they be charged more when the alternative is currently all over sixty five? Is irrespective of what their income level is being charged more so. Rachel David is the CEO of Private Healthcare Australia. Rachel, good morning. 00:41:31 Speaker 14: To you morning. 00:41:33 Speaker 15: Will. 00:41:34 Speaker 7: So your modeling presumably says that the money that the federal government reaped from this would be the equivalent to the over sixty five changes that they took to the budget. 00:41:46 Speaker 21: Yes, so what we are supposing ideally this measure would not go ahead at all because it is so inequitable. Is going to catch one point three two million people who are on pensions, who are already struggling to afford to pay the health insurance and now who will now have to pay hundreds of dollars more. So we really don't think it's a good idea that this goes ahead. But if they want an alternative, and in some of the correspondents to us, the government has asked for an alternative to make the savings, then we think that the most equitable way is to increase the Medicare levy surcharge or the penalty for high income earners who don't have private health insurance. 00:42:23 Speaker 9: Did you say the government has asked you to come up with an alternative to their policy. 00:42:28 Speaker 21: Yes, we are received some correspondents that it suggested that we should be looking at alternatives to define savings recently. 00:42:36 Speaker 7: Was that correspondence. 00:42:38 Speaker 21: Oroun go in the last few weeks? 00:42:41 Speaker 9: Is that usual practice when in the past if you've ever said

to the government, hayd, maybe you want to rethink this, have they ever come back and said, well, why don't you come up with it for us? 00:42:52 Speaker 21: Look, I'm not sure, but certainly in this case the objective is to make three billion dollars worth of savings. We don't think this is equitable going after older people, many of whom are on pensions. So we think that a fair away is to look at high income earners who don't have health insurance and at risk of being treated in a public hospital, so that so that today can continue to make savings but not have a negative impact on the health system. 00:43:22 Speaker 7: Rachel, does your modeling presume that in the event that the federal government takes up your policy, so the one point five percent a Medicare levy surcharge would jump to three percent for people over one hundred or earning over one hundred and sixty four thousand dollars. Does it presume that all those people would keep then paying the Medicare levy surcharge and not see a reason to go back and get private health insurance. 00:43:46 Speaker 21: No, so that would be in the first the modeling looks at the first year, but over time you would imagine that a certain percentage of people would say that it's they're better off paying private health insurance. But that means that they come into the all of people with private health insurance, which helps keep premiums stable for everybody. The more people that are healthy and of working age that join health insurance, the better the impact on premiums. 00:44:11 Speaker 9: And obviously that's in your benefit in your role a see of private health care Australia. What would that mean for the budget then, because obviously the federal government's aim here is to not lose out money in the budget. If in the first year high income owners are paying extra on this levee, then they decide to get private healthcare, they're not paying the extra levy, less money going to the government. 00:44:35 Speaker 21: Although they're paying for private health insurance, which means they won't be a burden on the public system. So one way or another, the savings still get made. Yes, so that the savings still get made. So basically by in our alternative proposal, pensioners would be quarantined from paying from paying the extra higher income earners would be charged in extra attacks if they didn't join private health insurance. 00:45:04 Speaker 7: That's not the sum of it, though, is it. Rachel. My reading of the thin Reviews reporting says that, yes, the biggest increase would come from people on high income, as we've spoken to this point, almost exclusive about them one hundred and sixty four thousand dollars or more. But people with an income between one hundred and five one hundred and twenty three, you'd see a rise from one percent to one point five percent. So that's what a fifty percent increase in the Medicare levy surcharge. Those aren't rich people, No. 00:45:35 Speaker 21: They're not rich, but they

have the opportunity of taking out a basic come health insurance policy at that level, which would mean they wouldn't pay anything at all. 00:45:47 Speaker 7: Yeah, I reckon. That's so the pool of money that you use to sort of offset the over sixty five changes, do we have enough high income earners or I'm just wondering how crucial to the plan is those people they're on about on hundred grand year having to pay more. 00:46:01 Speaker 21: If the government wants to the equivalent of making screen billion dollars worth of savings, which is what they're currently looking at over four years from the pension of tax, then this will be sufficient. 00:46:13 Speaker 5: Mmm. 00:46:14 Speaker 9: Okay, well, it's an interesting prospect, and especially interesting that the government asked you to come up with it. 00:46:20 Speaker 10: Rachel, thanks your time this morning. 00:46:22 Speaker 7: I don't dislike that, to be honest. I mean, I know we have giant bureaucracies that are designed to the idea is. You've got a Health Department and Treasury Department that to try to come up with these ideas. But I don't really have an issue with going to industry to say, well, you guys, if you have a suggestion, you've got oversight in this sector and maybe insight that we don't have, how would you do this. I'd having a problem with that. I think it's intriguing that it comes in the after the backlash to this policy and all the state governments effectively saying we're not signing up to this. This is ludicrous. And now they've gone back to industry after the fact that said is there, ah, are we doing this? That was fascinating? How do people feel about it? So if it felt a bit convoluted in that chat, I'll just to break it down simply for people, essentially, everyone earning over one hundred and five thousand dollars a year woul seen increase to the Medicare surcharge if they don't have private health. If they don't have private health. For people of one hundred and sixty four, it jumps massively from one point five percent to three, but everyone goes up a bit one to one point five For people that if I reckon already decided private health is too expensive, yep, that's where this plan hits a snag. 00:47:31 Speaker 9: And what's what I don't I can't articulate how much that would cost, how much that that levee would cost an individual, and whether or not they would say, all right, it's worth me getting private health now because obviously, okay. 00:47:42 Speaker 7: One percent of your earnings one hundred and five so it's you know, one thousand dollars and then you had another five hundred bucks in a year. 00:47:49 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, private health more than that Yeah, then you weigh it up. You go, well, five hundred dollars for nothing or do I pay I don't know what private health is a year depending on what you look than right, do I pay that and actually get something for it? 00:48:03 Speaker 10: Is it in my budget? 00:48:04 Speaker 7: What do you think? Folks? We're guided by you as always eight double two to three double O double O an idea with merit or is it back to the drawing board for all involved zero before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. Let us know your thoughts. In the meantime, we'll get a check traffic. 00:48:17 Speaker 3: Knockdown Bill two with metro Homes, Sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment. 00:48:23 Speaker 4: Metro Homes. They do it all for you. 00:48:26 Speaker 5: Will goodings with Stacey Lee. 00:48:28 Speaker 7: This is five double a breakfast twenty two after seven ge. We've had a stack of really thoughtful and intelligent comments on the text line with regard to this. Well, I was going to say proposed alternative to the federal government's changes to the rebate for over sixty five health insurance, but the government actually went to industry asking for ideas as an alternative. 00:48:50 Speaker 9: So that would indicate that they're maybe going to wind it back where they're at least exploring other options to get rid of it. 00:48:57 Speaker 7: I think they realize it's a dug. When you're none of the labour governments at state level are coming out in support of it, in fact of vocal critics of it, you've got a real issue. Yeah, let's do a couple of texts. 00:49:07 Speaker 11: Yeah, this one from Phil's interesting. 00:49:08 Speaker 9: He says, an issue with private health is that in most cases you still end up paying a gap on top of the premium. 00:49:13 Speaker 11: You've got to factor that into the tote. 00:49:14 Speaker 7: A really good point, yep. 00:49:16 Speaker 9: Absolutely, And this one from Dion's interesting. The number of labor voters who are on high incomes that don't have private health insurance I suspect would be greater than over sixty five's who have it. Hence I'd be shocked if they took up this alternative policy. That's a good point labor voters. You know, labor workers generally would rather go with the public health system than private. 00:49:36 Speaker 10: Maybe. 00:49:37 Speaker 9: Yeah, this person says hard hitting, let's hit hard working Australians again. Like you said, will one hundred and five thousand dollars is no longer a big wage. It's the government's fault of the last twenty five years, which have not planned for all the boomers needing healthcare. We are a trillion dollars in debt. 00:49:53 Speaker 7: Yeah, certainly some truth to that. Thank you for those texts keeping them coming through before I zero eight thirty ninety five call us an eight double two three double o double like Debbie in South Plimpton, as morning you, Debbie, Good. 00:50:05 Speaker 19: Morning the two of you. I'm very excited this morning. I've just spoken out. It was my birthday yesterday and I got a rain ge gig. You know, a rain gauge. 00:50:14 Speaker 7: Yes, you worried. 00:50:15 Speaker 19: Us for a second there, Mills twenty two and a half meals over night in South Plimpton. 00:50:20 Speaker 7: People, twenty two and a half. You must have

thought your rain gauge might might have been broken. 00:50:25 Speaker 19: I did. It is nearly full to the brim. 00:50:29 Speaker 14: How much does it? 00:50:30 Speaker 7: How much can you fit in a rain gauge? What do they expect? The max meta rain anyone's going to get is. 00:50:34 Speaker 19: Well, this is a biggie, this is this goes to twenty five meals. It's a nihilex. Oh yeah, I am so excited. Twenty two and a half meals and South Clinton people. Can anyone beat that? 00:50:46 Speaker 9: I love your excitement, Debbie. I've never been so excited for someone to have water in the rain game. 00:50:51 Speaker 7: What's the temperature telling you? What is it in South Plimpton right now? 00:50:55 Speaker 19: The temperature? 00:50:57 Speaker 7: Hey? 00:50:57 Speaker 12: Google, what's the temperature under Google? 00:51:00 Speaker 7: I want I want Debbie's rain gauge with a local knowledge. 00:51:03 Speaker 10: The rain gage. 00:51:04 Speaker 19: It's the world degrees. I don't know that it doesn't tell me the degrees. It's just that it's a ward catcher rain. 00:51:10 Speaker 7: I thought it was one of those little weather systems. 00:51:12 Speaker 19: Oh no, we've got one in the laud dream of that. But no, not the water in the rainy out. You go out, and I want to know if I'm the winner. Twenty two and a half meals. I can give proof with the picture. 00:51:24 Speaker 10: No, Debbie, we believe if anyone can beat me, only in the plane, not the Fort Hills, because that's unfair. 00:51:30 Speaker 9: Absolutely, has anyone created her own game with rules? 00:51:34 Speaker 7: Has anyone had more rain than Debbie? Is the name of the game on the planes eight double two three double o double havepy birthday to you do, Debbie. That's fun getting a new toy. The Adelaide City Council of contemplating some new toys. It's filled. The language feels clunky, But this is what it is. Cameras that can detect sound. So we've got speed cameras, we've got red light cameras. A function will be added that to detect sounds. So if you've got a I guess car that emits a V eight, or you've customized the car in such a way to maximize its noise, if it breaks the rules around how much noise is emitted, you get snapped. Phil Martin is atlat from the Adelaide City Council joins us feel good morning. 00:52:16 Speaker 17: Good morning will in Stacey. 00:52:18 Speaker 7: The my big question with it, how does it know which car was making the noise? 00:52:22 Speaker 17: Well, the camera works with microphones and AI algorithms to be able to pinpoint the exact position of the noise and when it detects a noise as I understand it above the decibel rate that's set by the algorithm, then the camera goes off takes a picture of the number. 00:52:44 Speaker 5: Plade. 00:52:45 Speaker 17: Okay, now these these cameras, this technology is pretty new. It's it's already been trialed in Sydney, it's under trial in Melbourne. There are seven of them in Melbourne suburbs at the moment. And what I'm asking is that the Council has a look at an investigation into whether we can do the same in cooperation with Saypole and the EPA. I'm not suggesting that the Council runs the cameras, but that we simply partner with the EPA and Saypole, as has happened in Melbourne and in Sydney. 00:53:21 Speaker 11: So you wouldn't run the cameras, but you'd issue the fines and get the revenue. 00:53:25 Speaker 17: No, no, and it's not about revenue. In fact, in the trials in Sydney there were no fines, and in Melbourne it's about issuing notices to vehicles that exceed the limit to take their vehicle into the Registry or some other appointed agent and have the vehicle tested and then insist on it being modified. Of course, the people refuse to modify after a test shows that the vehicle doesn't meet the standard, then you might issue an expiation. But it's about actually controlling the noise andcouraging hons with cars that are modified to make lots of look at me noise. 00:54:05 Speaker 7: So the current rules around noise pollution feel they are they determined by local government or are they sort of statewide rules like the speed limit that did affect. 00:54:16 Speaker 17: That they are statewide laws. The standards are set by the EPA and enforced by police. But the problem is police have to be there. You have to have a police vehicle or a police officer on the spot, whereas this technology substitutes for a police officer. It's standing there on the corner. It can be fixed or mobile. For example, in Melbourne they have them on the backs of trailers, so you can just substitute one of these devices for what would be a police officer and the evidence is irrefutable. The evidence is captured by the camera. 00:54:57 Speaker 10: Right okay. 00:55:00 Speaker 9: I wanted to ask you about another matter that will come up before council pretty soon because I think the lease or the approval for the Women's and Children's hospital pods in North Adelaide is up at the end of the year. In Adelaide City Council will be asked to renew it or not. Do you have an opinion about whether those treatment spaces for the women's and children's hospital in the pods on the road there should stay. 00:55:25 Speaker 17: Well, I haven't seen the proposal to come to Council yet having said that, Look, I have been off for a week or so. It may have come in my absence, So I am recovering from COVID like half of Adelaide, I think. But at the last occasion the matter came to my attention, we were about to receive the proposal. I've not received that. I certainly know that it's contentious. There are ratepayers in North Adelaide who keep contacting me saying that one it is difficult to negotiate the footpath, and there are people using the road where the footpath was where these pods were to gain inferance to the Women's and children's In fact, I've seen that myself and that vehicles have difficulty in the negotiating the corner. On the other hand, the women's and Children's are saying,

look, this is a really important piece of infrastructure. We know that you only said you can have it for a couple of years because of COVID, but we need it permanently, at least until the transfer to the new Royal Adelaide occurs. 00:56:35 Speaker 9: All right, okay, well we'll stand by on a decision for that one. Thanks for your time this morning. Till Martin there from the. 00:56:40 Speaker 7: Adelaide City Council. I would put a noise detecting camera at the Seaview Road crossing at Henley Square, and it would guarantee that no ratepayer in that area would ever pay rates again. It would make so much money. It is burnout. I've got a loud car and I'm going to red the absolute geb is out of my engine central of Adelaide, that spot. 00:57:02 Speaker 11: I've got to admit I didn't realize this was such an issue in the Adelaide City Council area. 00:57:06 Speaker 7: I've never thought about it in the council. But how often I'm not sitting in the council area, But I reckon. I bet there's places in the parade people around Nord too where this kind of there's certain people that love showing off how loud their car is in front of loud crowds of people. 00:57:23 Speaker 11: Has it ever impressed anyone? 00:57:24 Speaker 9: I'm just wondering, man or woman, if you've ever been sitting down eating dinner at a bar where it is I don't think, and a really loud car has gone past you, have you ever looked at it and gone, oh, yeah, that's doing things to me. 00:57:36 Speaker 7: I reckon there's a certain kind of redhead that likes that thing. They're impressed by the power of the engine and so forth. 00:57:41 Speaker 11: But just always think about it and go who are you trying to impress? 00:57:44 Speaker 10: Because it's not working. 00:57:46 Speaker 7: Lots of text coming through on this and not a lot of support for the noise detection capacity of the cameras. Will sort through it and get to some of your thoughts in a moment. Then Phil Curry and camera is going to join us to We're talking about what's been a really messy mate week for one nation federally on what is their strong suit there. One would immigration you got to get the numbers right and they haven't. Why we'll find out next. 00:58:09 Speaker 19: And I've got a rain Gelgi you know, a rain gauge. 00:58:12 Speaker 3: Knockdown bill two with metro homes, Sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment. 00:58:18 Speaker 4: Metro Homes they do it all for you. 00:58:21 Speaker 6: Will Goodings with Stacy Lee. This is five double a breakfast. 00:58:27 Speaker 7: I aimed to wait Phil Coourry in the nation's capital in just a moment, but first Debbie laid down the challenge to anyone on the planes who could beat her. South Plinton Rain gauge reading that was a brand spanking news. She got it the day before, so she was keen to show it off. We've had a few contenders text through Diane and Glenelg NORTHO is pretty close to Debbie there, Diane, what does your rain gauge tell you? Twenty eight meal Okay, so it's the same as no. 00:58:53 Speaker 9: Debbie's was twenty one, twenty one and a half and a half one and. 00:58:57 Speaker 7: A half for Diane. You win, Diane, and a few texts too. I think there was one at Richmond we got a short time ago. 00:59:03 Speaker 11: He won from Mark and Richmond. 00:59:05 Speaker 10: Quite a few lots of people in Glenelg have rain gauges. 00:59:08 Speaker 14: Debbie in Glenelg's. 00:59:09 Speaker 9: Is twenty six point eight and we've got this one from Henry in Glenelg North twenty eight. 00:59:15 Speaker 11: It's Glenelg North the rain gauge capital of Adelaide. 00:59:18 Speaker 7: I think it's something to look that way. Certainly they've got a lot of rain in the last twenty four hours eighteen too. Usually it's about Canberra's weather that we're remarking to Phil. I think we've got a beat in the last little while. Phil, Good morning, to you morning. Well wait here too, is it? Yeah? I actually surprised. I saw actually there's going to be sixty milis plus in certain parts from New South Whales. So yeah, you're probably going to get a bucketing sometime soon. So let's talk about One Nation and the trouble they've had with immigration numbers over the course of the last week or so, because this is it has it a guess if you're voting One Nation, the reason you are is probably you like their view on controlling immigration and reducing the numbers of people coming to Australia. It shouldn't be that difficul for them to get those numbers, strike, should it not? 01:00:02 Speaker 15: Really? I mean what they're sort of good out, if you like will Is and Todays, is articulating the problem. And then you know, when they say migration is a problem too many people coming in, there's a sort of broad agreement in the public with that. It's one of the other top five issues that voters say keeps them up at night. But when it comes to so how do you fix it? It's such a complicated thing, our migration system that it's sort of easier said than done. So what we have is that The number everyone's talking on is what's called net overseas migration, and that's the difference between the people who leave the country every year and the people who come back. And that includes Australian citizens as well going on holidays instead all going away to work and things. But so the numbers it's known, it's currently sitting at about three hundred thousand, which is way too high. So we're getting three hundred thousand more people come to this country every year than leave labor. It's meant to be down to two hundred and forty five thousand this year in the budget, but the government can't get it down that low, and that's working on their own policy to try and get it down to what they aim for in the budget. Angus Taylor said, yes, said if he gets in, he'll drive it down. He said, substantially below two hundred thousand. They haven't given a number yet, but we think they'll come in about one eighty and one. Nation said they'll drive it right down

to one hundred and thirty thousand. Now, when you start getting down that lower, you start running into problems or who you're going to yah because a lot of those people who come in as sort of workers, you know, skilled workers come in on visas to do specific jobs that we need with with it's the age care or you know, building houses and that sort of stuff. So you've got to get fairly ruthless when you start calling it back to that level. And what happened on the weekend is David Farley that new nationals are sorry, the new one nation mpiece at all what one thirty to be our base, and then we'd have to bring in about another one hundred thousand agricultural workers on top of that. So it all got all sort of ran off with itself and boy Announcing had to come in and say no, one hundred and thirty thousands per cap So what we really have at the moment is three parties and three different targets, you know, ranging from one hundred and thirty to two to twenty five which is Labour's target next year, and the Colson somewhere in the middle. So it's I think if you step back and sort of take the aerial view of this, the government doesn't like talking about it. They don't mind the fact that one nation may be sort of struggling with the detail. But every time we talk about migration. It's in the news. The government feels that it hurts them. 01:02:18 Speaker 7: Let's do about David Farley for a moment, the One Nation member in the Lower House, member for Parah. Is he stretching the license given to people to speak on behalf of their local electorate and not necessarily tow the party line? Or is it becoming increasingly Do you get the sense that this is someone who came into Parliament on the wave of One Nation support but actually shares very little in common with what the actual One Nation policy platform is. 01:02:47 Speaker 15: Yeah, I think the latter, well sort of. He's just a real country gentleman, David. I've got to know him a little bit since he's been here. He's sort of one of these bugs. He's got into politics to try and fixed problems. He sees it in his electric He's no friend of South Australia. He's one of these blokes. If he had his way, no water would flow out of the Murray Mouth. 01:03:07 Speaker 5: You know. 01:03:08 Speaker 15: He's an irrigator the ee. He thinks it's just grossly unfair that they just can't take all the water they want out of the river and in New South Wales and Victoria. But he's there to represent his electric and he's not really sort of one of these culture war guys, like he doesn't mind hanging three different flags up in his office, whereas he pulling hands until he only hang out one and things like that. So he's not sort of in he's not deliberately disloyal or anything like that. He just sort of opens his mouth and says what he says. I mean, during the he won the seat that Susan Lee had, they took it, took him that by election, and you know, it came out during an election campaign that he'd tried to run for labor at one stage too, because he just wants to get stuff done. So he's not really a partisan political player. He just sees problems and wants to fixed. It was quite a considerate performance he gave on The Insiders on Sunday, the ABC Show, where he said all these things about immigration, but he didn't sort of Barnaby Pauline had to sort of come in and do a bit of mopping up. I think Barnaby said, yes, he's still finding his line on length. 01:04:07 Speaker 7: Well. He seems very thoughtful and intelligent. He just doesn't seem to think too much about whether it Gels were with what Pauline as. 01:04:13 Speaker 15: That's right. Yeah, but but yeah he's not, Yeah he's not. I don't think he's deliberately making trouble. This is one of the problems you get, you get all this. I've we saw this in South Australia some of the One Nation candidates and some of the things have been said there. Do it sort of double take that fellow in the Upper House I can't remember his name, he said what he said recently, So you know, this is what happens when you very quickly and you bring a lot of people and you're going to get a bit of this one. I don't think they I think I think that the trick is not to overreact to it from a way nation point of view, and they're not, and in the past they would have. Yeah, the Liberal Party and Labor are jumping away from you know, saying look they're terrible, they're all disorganized. But it's interesting Hanson and George are just sort of taking in their stride. 01:04:52 Speaker 7: Well, your framing of it, Phil, I think is the one that's going to resonate most with the voters. That yes, it's all been a bit messy, but at the end of the day when you line up the three numbers, there's a lot of people that just will vote for the lowest number, and they've still got the lowest number. 01:05:05 Speaker 15: Yeah, exactly, but it will get you know, there'll be more pressure on them as the election draws closer to sort of explain how they're going to make that work. Yea. At the moment is the government's wrestling with immigration policy. You know, three weeks ago Tony Burke was supposed to announce how they're going to get their numbers down and they had to pull it. There's more work needed to be done on it, and they're in all sorts trying to make it happen as well, so it's sort of bedaviling most parties. At the moment. Coalition is taking its time. They said we will announce that next year, no rush elections, not till twenty twenty eight. They seem to be sort of the least stressed vital. 01:05:38 Speaker 7: All right, good stuff, Phil, Thank you. Phil Carey the political editor of the Australian Financial Review. 01:05:44 Speaker 9: It's really interesting he says, you know that David Farley's not really that much aligned with a lot of the one nation policies, just a good country guy wants to get stuff done. 01:05:54 Speaker 10: You wonder how long. 01:05:56 Speaker 11: He has, how long his future within the party hmm? 01:06:01 Speaker

10: Or do they just get along? 01:06:03 Speaker 11: Can they just play nice? 01:06:06 Speaker 7: We know there are in the Labor case, formalized factions within parties where there are people that on the left and right of both the Liberals certainly and the Labor parties that would fervently disagree with each other about a lot of things in public life. Maybe as a party grows like One Nation is, they will have the same and your your David Farley types are going to become the one Nation left for one of a better turn of phrase, you know, the moderates of the party and maybe Ad Jason Bergo represents that in South Australia as well and will have that range of opinions. Maybe that's just part of the evolution of it. But maybe with that comes challenges well. 01:06:40 Speaker 9: And then and then you start to get the bigger overall pictures. When does the Liberal Party right turn into the One Nation Left? When does the One Nation Left turn into the Liberal Party right? And then when does the when do they merge with Labor as well as It's just it's a messy spectrum. 01:06:55 Speaker 7: It underscores the difficulty. And look, no one wants to speak in defense of the major parties at the moment because the view they're very much on the nose. What are they polling fifty percent of the public. The difficult The more people you have in the tent, the harder it is to get them all singing from the same hymns sheet. So there are going to be a range of opinions on that, and it starts to look like, well, what do you stand for? Is it one hundred and thirty thousand? Is it the federal government's target of two hundred and thirty thousand people coming into the country, Because you've got more people that have different views on who should be counted and should it be Pacific Pacific Island fruit pickers? Should they count because they're important? You know? And labeled say these people are important too. So it gets complicated. Yeah, tender Weight, We're going to check traffic and we'll be back in just a second. 01:07:38 Speaker 3: Knockdown Bill two with metro homes, Sell one and move on keep the other as an investments. 01:07:44 Speaker 4: Metro homes. They do it all for you. 01:07:46 Speaker 5: Will goodings with Stacy Lee. 01:07:48 Speaker 6: This is five double a breakfast. 01:07:55 Speaker 7: Six Towaight, we're gonna have a jury trial in just in mindment, let's do some texts before we get there, though, Remember one hundred dollars centis seafood. BOUCHERI is on the line, and all you need to do is call in and have your say on the jury or as we let last week, you can just say you don't give U stuff. You're all eligible to win the if you're let you win the one hundred dollars sevast seafood. About you get calling now eight double two to three, double O, double o, and have you'll say on something that I think everyone everyone will have a view on this one is totally democratic. I think just about everyone on planet Earth might have a view on this one. So we'll

get to that in a moment. 01:08:27 Speaker 9: Let's do some text first thing, Lots of people have some thoughts on migration. This text here from Andrew bit Rich of the government and the opposition to call one nation disorganized and picking their policies. Didn't the government call off a pressa a few weeks ago as they didn't even have an immigration policy to announced, We'll. 01:08:43 Speaker 7: Pick your poison. I don't think one nation know there seemed to be some dispute about whether it was a net overseas migration or gross migration, and so they had some problems trying to work that out. The federal government has a problem where they keep predicting the level of migration there's going to be into Australia and just getting it wrong. 01:09:00 Speaker 9: And they don't have a poll every year. You're right, Andrew, they were going to release it three weeks. 01:09:04 Speaker 7: Well, on the value of their policy is if they can't ever accurately predict what the number is going to be anyway, well just pick a number, yep. 01:09:12 Speaker 9: And this person says, at first, we need a pause in migration to give us some breathing space so we can catch up with infrastructure for those with essential skills for say twelve months, and then reassess. 01:09:25 Speaker 11: And that is the issue, I think working out. 01:09:28 Speaker 10: What non essential skills. 01:09:29 Speaker 9: Are because to different people, whether you live in the city or the regions, non essential skills mean different things. 01:09:37 Speaker 7: Well, to David Farley, they mean people picking fruit Yep. Says that's absolute essential for the people he's representing his seat who are farming in that way, that's not a negotiable. If you've got someone in your family that's in age care. There would be a whole bunch of people that work in that facility that you would say are absolutely essential because you're a parent or friend or so whoever's not getting looked after in the absence of that. Yeah, this is the grand theory is easy. Actually nutting out the actual policy is the bit that's tricky. All right, let's jury trial. This. 01:10:07 Speaker 22: In the criminal justice system, all defendants so innocent until proven guilty, either by confession, plea bargain, or trial by jury. This is one of those trials. 01:10:19 Speaker 7: RFK Junior, you might be familiar with him, is the Health secretary in the United States, and he was articulating a position on autism and theory of his and he got interrupted during a press conference. 01:10:31 Speaker 14: We have responsibility to do better. What an artistic Sorry about that. 01:10:40 Speaker 7: Now, that's not someone hasn't tricked that up. That's not someone using AI or something to make a funny video. His phone ring tone is a quacking duck. 01:10:47 Speaker 10: It just could not be more perfect. 01:10:49 Speaker 9: He's there releasing his new theory on autism and there's a quack in the background. 01:10:54 Speaker 10: You could not write this stuff. 01:10:56 Speaker 7: He was interrupted by a quack. So we thought we started having this converse about how many people who still has ring tones, who's using a ringtone, or who just has their phone permanently on silent, Because you and I are in the silent brigade, aren't we? Eight? Double two three, double O double O for the jury? This morning, ring tone or no ring tone? 01:11:13 Speaker 9: I could not tell you what my ringtone is. I haven't heard it in I'd say a decade. 01:11:18 Speaker 7: Yeah, do your phone right now, folks, be honest for the jury. You're totally anonymous. Do you have a ring tone? Bonus points if you tell us what it is? If you do, or have you gone, be among the silent brigade now just silent, vibrate or whatever it is that attracts your attention during number one, good. 01:11:32 Speaker 5: Morning, good morning, ladies and gentlemen. 01:11:37 Speaker 22: That's how I go on my dire tone. 01:11:39 Speaker 23: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. 01:11:41 Speaker 7: Is is that what your ring tone is? 01:11:43 Speaker 17: Yes? 01:11:44 Speaker 7: What you saying good morning ladies and gentlemen. That's it. 01:11:48 Speaker 14: I don't know who it is. 01:11:49 Speaker 23: That's why I'm saying it. 01:11:50 Speaker 7: Oh, okay, that's a unique dury. Number one, Thank you I have well, I mean, obviously I haven't heard that one, because you're the only one in the world that's got that. During number two, good. 01:11:59 Speaker 24: Morning, good morning, good morning. 01:12:01 Speaker 12: I make my own ringtone. 01:12:04 Speaker 19: I make my own combination like ringing and music together, So I'm a for ringtone DJ. 01:12:12 Speaker 7: During number two, thank you. That's two for Ringtones, I think. During number three, ringtone or no ring tone? 01:12:18 Speaker 25: Definitely a ringtone. And I still got a house phone and it rings and rings. 01:12:22 Speaker 10: Still got a house phone, yep, love that. 01:12:25 Speaker 7: Get do random people call the house phone? Do you get to the cold called at all? 01:12:29 Speaker 25: Yeah, I'll get the older you know, the immigration people, you know from those of these trying to sell me something. 01:12:37 Speaker 7: Oh, okay, okay, thank you. During number four, were learning all sorts of things as part of the jury this morning. Ringtone or no ringtone? 01:12:45 Speaker 23: Yeah, ring tone? 01:12:47 Speaker 7: Okay, Ringtones, what's your Ringtones? You're a number four? 01:12:51 Speaker 19: My ring tone is stone cold Steve Austin's entrance from the. 01:12:54 Speaker 12: W w ah. 01:12:55 Speaker 7: That is excellent. During number five, ringtone or no ring. 01:12:59 Speaker 5: Tone, ringing. 01:13:00 Speaker 25: I've got looney Chuane because I get all the loonies. 01:13:04 Speaker 7: So someone could call you in a really serious call and it's going down. 01:13:09 Speaker 25: Yeah, I get is overseas in China, so I'm not bloody. 01:13:13 Speaker 7: Talking about Yeah,

they're not many people call these days, do they. It's all sort of texts and emails and so forth. During number six, good morning, good morning guys. 01:13:22 Speaker 25: Yeah, I got a ring tone. 01:13:24 Speaker 20: Dance like Jagg. 01:13:24 Speaker 23: Everyone seems like dancing. 01:13:26 Speaker 10: Oh the moves like Jagger? 01:13:28 Speaker 21: Yeah, move like Jag. 01:13:29 Speaker 7: Do you have moves like Jagged? During number six Yeah, yeah, yeah, modest, this is excellent. During number seven, good morning ringtone or no ring tone? 01:13:39 Speaker 2: Ring tone? 01:13:41 Speaker 7: It's a clean, sweet, clean sweep. 01:13:43 Speaker 12: What are you by the who? 01:13:45 Speaker 7: Well? We played a bit of controversially. 01:13:48 Speaker 10: Whose song earlier. 01:13:49 Speaker 7: Oh, I'm not sure if it's lesser known, but it's certainly controversial about whether it fits in the top seven before seven about women's names. During number seventh, bank you Bubba. They founded Bubba Bubba Wagner from the Earth a Bulgarian psychic psychic from the early nineteen hundreds now one hundreds of seafood. It was a clean sweep. Everyone who called, here's a ring tone? Anyone in our team have a ring tone? Just no, Patty, no you and I don't. 01:14:19 Speaker 9: I turned my phone off. Silent pad if you want to call it. I want to see what my ring tone is. This is Oh yeah, I'm astounded. Where are we in the minority, Yes. 01:14:29 Speaker 7: We are there. You've got the standard ring tone. What's that one called? I don't know. Oh, it's called irritating default. Who wins the hundred seafood number before number four? You've got one hundred dollars worth of excellent sam Tass of seafood goodness coming your way. Get in and check out the wonderful people at sam Tas because that on hundred dollars will go a long long way for the best seafood and best prices. Sam Tas Seafoods open seven days. Factory Direct Richmond Road. 01:14:56 Speaker 17: Richmond. 01:14:58 Speaker 3: Knockdown with Metro Homes Sell one and Von Kippy ya As an investment metro Homes. 01:15:05 Speaker 4: They do it all for you. 01:15:07 Speaker 5: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee vs is five. 01:15:10 Speaker 7: Double a breakfast ten minutes after right, We've got a Royal Show Family Pass to give away in the next ten minutes. You know we need you to channel you're in a rob Lucas. That's the only clue I'm going to give you very shortly, because we're going to take wein to tackle state debt in the moment for the Royal Show Family pass. But I trust me everyone can have a bit of a sum this one that's going to be a lot of fun. Then after eight thirty something that is serious that our Premier of the day is going to weigh in on. The Productivity Commission have joined every state government outside of WA in saying the current GST cove up deal doesn't work. It's costing Australians too much, it's not benefiting the schools and hospitals in states that need the GST, it is working to their detriment

and it should be changed. The Prime Minister yesterday said it will not be changed. So we'll get the Premier's thoughts on that after eight thirty. I've pulled out some details from the Productivity Commission report that are just examples of how they say this system no longer works and it will, in simple language, explain to you how broken the carve up of something that should be relatively simple has become. So that's coming up after eight point thirty today. Right now, though it's start for breaking eight. 01:16:19 Speaker 11: A couple breaking at eights today. 01:16:20 Speaker 10: First up, a follow. 01:16:22 Speaker 9: Up to a story we did a few weeks ago, will about a. 01:16:27 Speaker 11: I never know how to pronounce this correctly, paddle or padel court. 01:16:32 Speaker 7: I've not spoken anyone about this without them also saying they don't know how to say. If anyone's involved in the playing of the game in the state that can definitively tell us call in right now. Yes, if from the association eight double two three double double O, We'll get it clarified once. 01:16:45 Speaker 9: And for all for the sake of the next five minutes, I'm going to call it padel yes, and if I'm wrong, apologies. But there was a proposal for a Padel court to be placed at Foxfield Oval, so this is within the Campbelltown Council. It was going to replace public tennis courts. So there were a lot of residents who were very concerned about the fact that the public tennis courts that they can use for free were going to be I guess privatized and turned into padel courts that you need to pay and go to use. 01:17:15 Speaker 10: There were also. 01:17:16 Speaker 9: Residents in the immediate area concerned about the sound. We had Margaret Smith on and she was worried about the psychological trauma that residents would have to go through because apparently Padell courts can be quite loud, so council had ordered a report on that. But at a recent Campbelltown Council meeting it has now been decided that the Padel courts will not be going ahead at Foxfield Oval. Unanimously, the members voted to take no further action in regards to the Padell Court, but they have requested the Chief Executive Officer of the Council directly liaise with the Padel business operators to maybe find a more suitable location. But there was a petition presented to Council and in this case the locals have have won out and that Padel Court will now no longer be going ahead, which is interesting. 01:18:14 Speaker 7: Is there any sporting thing that can happen in anywhere in South Australia near houses that won't be opposed by people in nearby Look in. 01:18:21 Speaker 9: This case, I think that one was a little bit different. If you're turning public. I think if the was a public you're right, it was a public, free to use tennis court and it was going to be turned into a privately operated one that you'd have to pay to use. 01:18:34 Speaker 11: And I don't know, I can see that was happening near me. 01:18:37 Speaker 7: That's fair. 01:18:38 Speaker 11: I'd be annoyed by that. 01:18:39 Speaker 7: Yeah, point taken the. 01:18:41 Speaker 11: Psychological trauma to do with sound. 01:18:43 Speaker 10: I don't know. I don't live near a padel court. 01:18:45 Speaker 7: Taking away something that was a public good and making it private is actually taking something away, It's not just adding something new into the system. 01:18:54 Speaker 9: We wanted to also talk this morning to Dale Beasley, who is the Secretary of s A Unions, because we've been talking a lot about AI in South Australia. 01:19:04 Speaker 10: Both in terms of. 01:19:06 Speaker 9: The future use of AI and what that means for the workforce, but also AI data centers and what impact they're going to have. Well, the Unions is focusing on this today and they'll be talking about it throughout the day, so it's something you'll hear more about. 01:19:21 Speaker 10: Dale Beasley. Good morning to. 01:19:22 Speaker 23: You morning, Stacy. 01:19:23 Speaker 5: How are you good? 01:19:24 Speaker 10: Thank you? 01:19:26 Speaker 9: What is your main concern about the rise of AI? Is it the impact on workforces or is it data centers? 01:19:32 Speaker 10: What are you worried about? 01:19:34 Speaker 23: Yeah, Well, FA Union's we are releasing a policy paper later this morning with a bunch of impacted workers from a bunch of different industries in stectors but the concerns are, you know, in three categories. Really it's AI itself as a tool, how it's been used, and how it's been rolled out if data centers, absolutely, and then it's about security and protecting people from improper surveillance, whether those are workers, will people in the community. So like, AI is everywhere right, and we do know that there's the potential for it to transform workplaces and deliver productivity benefits, but we know that Australians are less and less trusting of AI at work because in spite of the big promises, there are no guarantees that the benefits that AI will be shared with workers, and we're seeing job losses already. 01:20:24 Speaker 7: What lessons can we take from the sort of I'm thinking of the roboticization or the way in which things change in the eighties when it came to how factories worked in Australia and the danger, I guess is do you throw the baby out with the bath border And if we say, well, we can't, we don't want AI. We're going to stop it be infiltrating businesses and places here because we don't want to lose jobs that those entire companies and industries just move to places where they can do that, and in the process of trying to save the jobs, you lose all the jobs. 01:20:57 Speaker 23: Yeah, well, I think you know this is This is an issue where workers, the cross industries, regions, and political views agree. They don't want to stop new technology, but they want it used fairly, safely, and with appropriate human oversight. 01:21:11 Speaker 5: Right. 01:21:12 Speaker 23: What we don't

have at the moment are a list of the rules of regulations that ensure that you know when there are changes that happen to jobs or at work, people. 01:21:29 Speaker 26: Like have a seat of the table. 01:21:30 Speaker 23: We have learned from previous industrial revolutions. Right, this isn't the first one. There have been multiple. Work has changed numerous times in the past. What we can learn, what we do need to learn, is that workers are the closest to their work, They're the closest to their work outputs, the closest to their customers, the closest to their patients, and actually involving them in the development and implementation of new tech like an AI tech is actually going to to better results. So we're not here saying, you know, unplug it, you know, turn it off and don't turn it back on again. It's about how do we make the best use of this new technology in a way that benefits everyone. You know, transparency and meaningful consultation is what is needed to ensure technological change actually improves productivity and outcomes for workers without compromising right safety or job quality. 01:22:26 Speaker 7: I totally get the role union is going to play in terms of guarding against an aion slaught on human roles, and actually think unions are going to play really important role in the near future on that front. I'm intrigued about your view on data centers because these are unmanned entities that are going to be built to make it all happen. What's what's the unions concerned about data centers. 01:22:46 Speaker 23: M okay AI and data centers are linked right. AI tools require massive amounts of data processing, parently get it from data centers to be able to work. The issue that is upfront about data centers for workers is a number of workers that are actually going to be required to build the things. Yet once they're constructors, probably very minimal jobs in their running and their maintenance. But during construction they are going to draw on so many skills, trades and professional skills electricians. There's hundreds of thousands of electricians who are going to be required to build the number of data centers that are currently proposed around Australia. We don't have the We're in a skills crisis already, so there's a skilling challenge here. And data centers need to pay their own way, right. These are piece of kit that are owned and built by the wealthiest companies in the world. They draw massive amounts of our resources, both electricity and water and their skills. They need to pay their own way. So the challenge for us is the workers of them, of their community. And we've seen around the world where data centers have just been allowed to let it rip, communities have suffered. They've suffered in terms of accessibility of water, the quality of their water and electricity as well. So there's a challenge I think in the data center space is what sort of guardrails we put around how and where these things are built. And you know, what

is a reasonable expectation that the community should have about the benefit they should get from these things being built. 01:24:32 Speaker 9: So do you think of Royal Commission into AI would help investigate any of these concerns or alleviate any. 01:24:38 Speaker 10: Of your concerns. 01:24:40 Speaker 23: Yeah, like the opportunities need to be there to have the conversation, right, That's not what we've had at the moment up until this point. 01:24:48 Speaker 7: Now we do. 01:24:49 Speaker 23: We see the state government have announced a Royal Commission. The state government have also announced a data center plan that talks about regulation. There's a federal Senate inquirer and you know, the Prime ministers talking about establishing standards too. And we know that this is going to be an item on the you know, on the agenda for premiers when national Cabinet comes together, because it's such a big deal and that's tomorrow, right, So we want to make sure that worker's perspectives are front and center and the flags are in the ground right that we expect and workers expect, the community expects governments to take the reins and not just let it rip, but you know, put in place guardrails that maximize the benefits to the community and keep people safe. 01:25:36 Speaker 7: It is. There is no bigger issue in the world at the moment, and yes, we'll be following your input into this very closely. Adlee, thanks for your time this morning. Dale Beasley, this Secretary of s A Unions. We've have a raw show family pass to give away right here and now, thanks to the excellent Drake Supermarkets, we can buy tickets and also at the show dot com dot au. Very concerning report put out by the IPA yesterday that forecasts South Australia will have the nation's second highest net debt per capita by twenty thirty. So they say we are approaching being in the same basket as Victoria, the basket case when it comes to economic management of recent years. We might pursue that a little bit with a premiere after ETE thirty this morning. But we're wondering if you might be able to help with the Ryal show tickets channeling you're in a rob Lucas, if we could sell if we had to sell something, if we had to sell something off privatized. 01:26:29 Speaker 10: Are we privatizing? 01:26:30 Speaker 7: What are we selling to alleviate state debt? It could be It could be. 01:26:35 Speaker 10: A tennis courts in Campbelltown. 01:26:37 Speaker 7: It could be tennis courts in Campbelltown. It could be something iconic in South Australia. It could be a suburb, It could be a person. Whatever it might well be. What could we sell to alleviate state debt in South Australia? Should it come to it eight double two three double double. You can be as silly or as serious as you like textas you're going to be in the running to win Ryal Show tickets. 01:26:59 Speaker 3: On the other side of this knockdown bill two with Metro Homes, Sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment. 01:27:07

Speaker 4: Metro Homes. They do it all for you. 01:27:09 Speaker 5: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is five double a breakfast. 01:27:19 Speaker 7: Twenty six minutes after right Royal Show tickets to give the way. We have a family pass here and we're giving it away in the next four minutes to someone who can nominate something that could be sold to combat our rising state debt problem. Let's go to Nova Gardens, Trevor, what's it going to be. 01:27:34 Speaker 2: Look, I think we're gonna get much money for them, but let's get rid of an all fair laid resident. 01:27:38 Speaker 7: Will just well, their houses would be valuable, Trevor. That'd probably get us a half the way there. Thank you. Steven south Blimpton. 01:27:44 Speaker 14: Good morning morning guys. 01:27:46 Speaker 12: How are you going good? 01:27:47 Speaker 7: Steve Ah. 01:27:49 Speaker 23: I would privatize every single local council in the state, get rid of a lot of them, and I'd start with the Adelaide City Council. 01:27:56 Speaker 9: I feared this would be dominated by local council suggestions. 01:28:00 Speaker 7: Thank you, Steve. I wonder if a local, if private money bought all the councils, how quickly would they be amalgamated? I reckon within thirty minutes, Sam and theband and good morning, good morning guys. 01:28:11 Speaker 1: I'd sell Parliament House. 01:28:13 Speaker 12: Then we lease it back to him. 01:28:16 Speaker 24: But then we've got a regular. 01:28:17 Speaker 7: Income, oh charge rent? 01:28:20 Speaker 10: Would we be paying the rent? 01:28:22 Speaker 7: Yeah, that'd be That's the problem with the plan, isn't it. But it's valuable real estate. Amber and north Avan, good morning, Oh. 01:28:31 Speaker 24: That gentlemen, still my thunder. I'd like to privatize Adelaide Counsel because the money that they spend, if you could get your fingers into that. So yeah, but the council for. 01:28:47 Speaker 7: Sure, Thank you, Amber Simon, good morning, good morning. 01:28:50 Speaker 6: Roll and Stacey. 01:28:51 Speaker 23: It's probably a bit controversial, but imagine that the events we could have. 01:28:55 Speaker 12: I'd look at the La parkland. 01:28:57 Speaker 7: Oh, you'd privatize them, privatize the park plans. Wow, I wonder what they'd become. Probably housing this day and age, wouldn't they we'd have maybe not now post budget. 01:29:07 Speaker 11: We'd have an oval or a racecourse for every sport. 01:29:10 Speaker 10: In the world. 01:29:11 Speaker 7: We would be like a carnival in the park lands. 01:29:14 Speaker 10: Bikes, trucks, whatever you like to watch. It'd be boxing rings. 01:29:18 Speaker 7: Then you're making a compelling case. Lindsey, good morning. 01:29:23 Speaker 25: Good morning. 01:29:25 Speaker 26: I would look at something our state's essential liquid assets, Farmers Junior, nice coffee. 01:29:32 Speaker 7: Yeah. Well the nice thing about that is it's already owned elsewhere, isn't it. So we could be selling something that's not ours. Would I like to sound off, Thank you, Lindsay, Joe good morning, good morning. 01:29:43 Speaker 2: Then I'd like to still off the State edmin Office and all the hanger ons that have paid exorbitant wages more than what the premiers paid. 01:29:50 Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you, Marge, good morning. 01:29:55 Speaker 25: Hi of dog Government House, those rings. 01:29:58 Speaker 11: Could as in is that the state admin. 01:30:04 Speaker 25: Yeah, the whole grand floor is in when they have open day. You just walked through it and all it's yeah. 01:30:13 Speaker 7: Where the governor live the government. 01:30:15 Speaker 11: That's a controversial. 01:30:17 Speaker 7: It's becoming this with the housing christ as everyone's having to shack up and you know, shared accommodation. 01:30:22 Speaker 11: Maybe we should make the government governor lodge. 01:30:26 Speaker 7: Governor lodge. 01:30:27 Speaker 11: Yeah, make a lodge with someone. 01:30:29 Speaker 7: That's right, Yeah, a couple of people Adelaide UNI students and move in. 01:30:32 Speaker 9: I feel like it's blaspheming to suggest that of her excellency she's leaving. 01:30:37 Speaker 7: Maybe she's got wind, but that's what's happening. I've got a text from Andrew who said, given the popularity of THEBDAN on this program, maybe Theburon could be sold off because it's so popular, it's the most it's so popular. Imagine the bidding war that had come about. 01:30:50 Speaker 9: A few texts as well, Yes, Mike, probably one you agree with will sell the pandas. 01:30:56 Speaker 7: Yes, yeah back, well we were already paid for him. 01:30:59 Speaker 9: Helen's got a controversial one. I reckon, sell off Elizabeth and the surrounding areas. 01:31:03 Speaker 7: Oh, sell off the north of Adelaide. Well, I mean it is named after Yeah, sell it back to the UK. It becomes sort of some sort of protectorate. The Sun's worth Moore, the sun once again will not set on the English Empire. 01:31:17 Speaker 9: Lots of people suggesting individual politicians I won't read out there their names. Sell off the trees from the North Adelaide golf course as firewood. There's plenty there says Peter in Westlakeshore. 01:31:30 Speaker 7: Who wins the show tickets? 01:31:31 Speaker 11: I reckon Lindsay for her liquid assets suggestion. 01:31:35 Speaker 7: All right, Lindsay, you have the show tickets coming your way. Folks. You can still get tickets at the show dot com dot a you, of course, by going to your break soupermarkets. 01:31:47 Speaker 3: Knockdown bill two with metro Homes, sell one and move on hip the other as an investments Metro Homes. 01:31:54 Speaker 4: They do it all for you. 01:31:55 Speaker 6: Will Goodings with Stacy Lee. This is five double a Breakfare. 01:32:00 Speaker 7: Nineteen to nine. We spoke with economist Soul east Lag last week about it a submission he'd made to the Productivity Commissions inquiring into how GST is carved up in Australia. He said, this is economic terrorism essentially, how this

reform in twenty eighteen has affected something that should be relatively simple. So the GST was introduced. The idea was that the money raised would be used to allow people living anywhere in Australia to get a similar access to public health and education. Out of things, you shouldn't be better off any better off in New South Wales than you are in South Australia. Western Australia anywhere. The idea was everyone would have a pool of money from which to draw, and the states that need it more would get more relative to their population, and those that needed less would get less. That changed, however, because in the early two thousands the mining boom and Western Australia meant they became the rich estate in the country, and they looked at the way in which the GST was being carved up and said, well, this is not fair. We're getting basically nothing despite providing all of this economic ballast to the rest of the country. So in twenty eighteen reforms came in that changed the way in which that got carved up, and it's resulted in a situation that now WA has rivers of gold coming their way at the same time as the benefits of a mining boom that did not mitigate in the way that some people imagined it might in the mid twenty ten so the Productivity Commissioner as to have a look at this. They have and in their interim report they've said it needs to change. They provided three options that they say the most obvious and best is simply we wind back to how things were originally carved up before that if we did that, that would mean hundreds of millions of dollars extra in South Australian coffers right now for public utilities, and we would have to do nothing. This is how the system was originally set up. But I just wanted to read out a couple of tidbits from the Commission report because I had a reader of this yesterday and some of this stuff is mind boggling, just to give you a sense of how much this has changed. And I think people rightly say what happened in twenty eighteen beyond for political reasons, Let's be honest. It's suited to win votes in Western Australia Alia pursue changes and it's why the Prime Minister yesterday said this. 01:34:04 Speaker 8: There will be no change to WA's arrangements whatsoever on the GSTA. 01:34:10 Speaker 5: Well, well, I've said it multiple times. 01:34:12 Speaker 8: I've signed people's body parts for goodness sake, you know, I mean, seriously. 01:34:17 Speaker 7: You change this will cost your seats in WA's That's the reality when the change is made in twenty eight en By the way, no state outside of WA said this was a good idea. Here are some of the quirks. So the modeling was this would cost Australian taxpay an extra five billion dollars. By the year twenty twenty four to twenty five, it ended up being twenty three billion dollars. That's a subject. That's how the reforms work. They changed the benchmarking, which is basically what relatively level, what relative level of care you should get compared to the richest state in Australia, and that created some weird things like this, WA would get additional GST revenue if, for example, this is according to the Productivity Commission, New South Wales of Victoria experience as a natural disaster, so they imagine a scenario where New South Wales incurs net fiscal costs associated with a bush fire. If that happens, their their fiscal capacity decreases, and it would mean a higher GST relativity and share of GST revenue which would go to WA. This is this is this is how it worked. This is the unintended consequences of the twenty eighteen changes. They mentioned South Australia too, and this is when we'll bring in the premiere. In a moment, I'll just read a bit from the from the report. The standard state benchmark has created a two tiered GST distribution system, where a state like South Australia that has a lower fiscal capacity than New South Wales of Victoria does not benefit from the equalization benchmark. So this means that if South Australia improves their financial position, they receive less GST revenue. And you say, okay, that's sort of how it works. We get richer, so we need less. 01:35:49 Speaker 27: On the other hand, I read on w A, a state with greater fiscal capacity like Western Australia now has its relativity automatically increased to the same as Victoria in New South Wales, which means it is WA improves its financial position, it will receive the same or even more GSD revenue than it otherwise would. 01:36:08 Speaker 7: This system doesn't work, it's broken, and an independent voice is now written an interim report saying change it back. The Prime Minister has said he won't. Here's the Premier of South Australia, Peter malanowskis Premier. 01:36:20 Speaker 26: Good morning to you, morning Wilcome morning States. That's a pretty good summary. I've got to say. 01:36:25 Speaker 10: Would you like to take Will into your negotiations? 01:36:27 Speaker 7: Premiere, No, don't add to that, Premiere, give our list as a bit of a sense of right now, if we if the Federal government adopted the Productivity Commission's suggestion that we go back to pre twenty eighteen levels, what does that mean to our budget bottom line? 01:36:46 Speaker 26: Well, it means beyond the forward estimates, we see more GSD coming in than we otherwise would. So the Big Cabinet, this is the only part of your summary that, of course we haven't mentioned. Is the no Worse off guarantee. Yes, when it was introduced back in twenty eighteen, and I might have the state liberals did say it was a good deal for South Australia, but when it was introduced back in twenty eighteen, there was a no worse off guarantee that expired two years ago. And myself and my other state primarial colleagues outside of West Australia will they pretty hard to the federal government says, look, this is absurd. You've got to maintain the no worse off guarantee otherwise we're all going to lose a lot of money to go to Western Australia, which means

less money for schools and hospitals than we would otherwise get. That was extended. Now that extension is time limited and without an extension to the worse off Guarantee and without an adoption of the Productivity Commission's report. That the simple truth is that in around about five six years from now, we will see a lot less money coming into South Australia to fund what we use at GSC revenue for, and that is principally schools and hospitals. Now, that is an unacceptable position, particularly whereas based on inequity, inequity that has been you know, revealed in its entirety as economic madness by the Independent Umpire and the form of the Protivity Commission. 01:38:15 Speaker 7: Are we helpless? Do we? What can the States do? No? 01:38:20 Speaker 26: Okay, well, let's be very clear about this, and I said this last week. I'm not I don't really care who's in charge in Canberra. I mean I care day to day obviously, but regardless of who's in charge in canbra if that no worse off Guarantee isn't extended and therefore we do go backwards in the amount of revenue that we get through the GST, which means cuts the schools and hospitals. I'm going to make sure that everybody in South Australia knows who is responsible for making that decision. Now, if the Prime Minister wants to maintain this arrangement, which is which of course entirely political, right, let's be frank about it. It was political and it was introduced by the Morrison government and it's political now being maintained by the Abernese government. 01:39:05 Speaker 11: When you say political, you mean securing votes. 01:39:08 Speaker 26: In WA exactly exactly. Now, that is their prerogative. But if they do that at the expense of South Australians, then I'm going to pop up about it and I'm going to fight against it because I'm not going to have South Australians go into a hospital or into a school or any other critical service for that manner being worse off because of a political imperative in Western Australia. Now at the moment, we are not worse off because of the no worse off guarantee and that funding continues to flow and it's there in the budget. But beyond the forward estimates. And when I say that, what I mean for benefit your listeners is is that outside of the four year horizon that budget's forecast, if that starts to get cut, then we're going to have to fight very hard against it, and I will do that against the Labor government if necessary. Now I have hope and I hope logic will prevail here that what the federal government will do is extend the no worse off guarantee so that we don't have to do that, and that is what it will have to wait and see how it plays out over the course of the next one to two years. 01:40:11 Speaker 7: So in the end, the event that doesn't happen, we have foregone GSD revenue beyond the Ford estimates. We have a forecast of a debt cliff to hit South Australia that the IPA has just published where they say we're going to have the second highest debt per capita by twenty thirty. And at the same time you've got all those low interest covid Era bonds that will mature and borrowing from that point on will be significantly more experienced. Is there a debt time bomb that's coming for South Australia. 01:40:40 Speaker 26: No, not if we keep the budget in the position that it's currently in. So I mean just plash that out for you for the benefit of you and your listeners. So as you know, will we have delivered a budget surplus in every single year during the life of this government, and not just four calf budget services actually delivered them and that is the reason why we are able to do the tunnels and do the hospitals because we have got the budget into it, not just balance, but into surplus. And so when we go to the market to get those bonds that is to say, raise the dead to be able to fund those investments. The bomb markets have supported it, and that's underpinned by the independent credit rating agencies who have actually got South Australia with the second best credit rating in the country debt. 01:41:23 Speaker 7: With those big projects, So this would have to be the end of those big build projects for some time in that's right. 01:41:29 Speaker 21: That's right. 01:41:29 Speaker 26: So we are doing the schools, not the school So if we're doing the tunnels and the women's in kids hospital as promised, there's a few other bits of infrastructure we're investing, but they're the two big projects. And for as long as we keep our budget in a sustainable position, which we've done so must far into operating components, then we're able to sustain that debt, and the credit rating agencies have actually marked us up for it. In fact, Standard and Poor has just recently didn't just keep it on double A plus. They kept them on Doba plus stable, which is better than what we see in other parts of the country. So that's why, you know, for instance, with the Nurses Enterprise Agreement we have, we put on the table real wage increases to the nurses, a whole bunch of improvements for conditions for the nurses. The Nurses union supported that, and then obviously it got voted down by the nurses themselves, and that's part of the process. I respect that, but we are you know, now we go off to the independent umpire and the Industry Relations Commission to deal with it. But the reason why we are trying to be prudent and just not doing the sort of increases you've seen in Victoria is because we do have an obligation of future generations to build the tunnels. Yes, build the hospital, yes, but not do it in a way that is unsustainable in terms of the budget profile. 01:42:45 Speaker 11: Premiere, if I can change topics for a moment. We spoke earlier to Philip Martin councilor on Adelaide City Council, and I asked him about the women's and Children's hospital pods in North Adelaide, the extra treatment spaces that were added on during cod Because there's been a request by the Women's and Children's Hospital

Network to Adelaide City Council to extend the agreement to allow those pods to remain on the road until December twenty thirty one. This is what Philip Martin had to say to us earlier. 01:43:16 Speaker 17: There are people using the road where the footpath was where these pods were to gain inference to the Women's and Children's In fact, I've seen that myself and that vehicles have diffulty in negotiating the corner. On the other hand, the Women's and Children's are saying, look, this is a really important piece of infrastructure. We know that you only said you can have it for a couple of years because of COVID, but we need it permanently at least until the transfer to the new Royal Adelaide occurs. 01:43:47 Speaker 9: This, from what I'm hearing, is shaping up to be a bit of a fight within Adelaide City Council. 01:43:51 Speaker 11: North Adelaide residents aren't happy. 01:43:53 Speaker 9: They don't want the extension to be granted, Others saying well it's a hospital they need treatment spaces. Why wouldn't you agree to let them have that? What do you think about that as premiere and is this a decision that should be within the council's. 01:44:08 Speaker 26: Remit Ela City Council. I mean, when we're talking about sick kids, I would hope that wisdom would prevail. This is exactly why we are building the new Women's and Children's hospital. It's a massive investment on behalf of the state. Is an investment that the La City Council themselves have opposed. Why because we are doing it on the old police barracks site. They were opposed to that. They wanted it to stay our police barracks. We of course decided to make it the hospital. So the La City Council opposed the new hospital. But now it looks like there could be some potential that could oppose the current one having some temporary arrangers while we build a new one. I mean that it would if they if they didn't approve the extension of the pods, it would be yet another demonstration of how the hipocrisy knows no bounds. I was there, Stacey, when the La City Council came to me and lobbied and said, you know, Peter, we want to build a new Alida Quatic Center. We can't do it without state goverment support. Can you please help us do it? The old Alaida Quatic Center is losing us money, it's super expensive to run, it's having a big environmental environmental impact as it's old technology. Please build us a new one. We of course announce that we're going to build a new one. We start doing it, and then they start complaining about it. The golf course. The golf course. Only a few years ago, Counselor Martin and others were party to a proposition from the La City Council to upgrade the golf course wife because it was losing money, it was inefficient and needed an investment. It's their idea. It's their idea. At the moment, the state government says, Okay, no worries, We'll step in and do it for you in a way that sets us up for the future. Sure, in that part of the parklands, what do they start doing your kids? 01:46:04 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, Premier, thank you. We appreciate. We's gonna have to leave it there because we're fast running out of time, but we appreciate your time. On five double A breakfast this morning. 01:46:11 Speaker 3: Knockdown Bill two with Metro Homes, sell one and move on, keep the other as an investment. 01:46:17 Speaker 4: Metro Homes. They do it all for you. 01:46:20 Speaker 6: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is five double a breakfast. 01:46:25 Speaker 7: I'm not sure the Premier was impressed with the council's position on the pods, with the potted history of disputes they've had between the two entities. Doesn't feel like those relations are at aar and all time high at the moment, does it. Let's have a look at the fuel situation. Don't get stuck on the side of the road, get raa road service. The cheap spots LeRoy's Mclarenville on the Main Road their dollar ninety two point five, Liberty Clarence Gardens South throw a dollar ninety three point five. The cheapest diesel LeRoy's Man of Power Main North Road two dollars thirty five point nine. That's actually down a bit. And the mobile Hillcrest Northeast Road two dollars thirty eight point five. You know to do a text or two to take us out. 01:46:59 Speaker 9: Yes, Jeff says, maybe if a party in opposition strong enough to campaign on changing the DST distribution, then the labor governments should forget politics and publicly support voting for a non labor government. 01:47:09 Speaker 7: When will that happen, Yeah, well, no one's brave enough to say it's bad at w national level yet because they all want seats in Western Australia. 01:47:16 Speaker 9: Yep, and Craig in Normanville makes that point. We need to take politics out of tax. All politicians and parties need to agree to an independent board who determines taxation for the best of the country. It can be instigated and agreed upon without bias. 01:47:28 Speaker 7: Sounds like some sort of utopia. Thank you for that, Craig. Keep your thoughts coming through. Graham Goodings is coming up next. We'll catch you tomorrow morning. From six 01:47:46 Speaker 5: The top seven before seven will return tomorrow