התמלול המלא של Breakfast with David & Will - May 8th 2025

how close are we They need two thirds majority of the one hundred and thirty three cardinals that are in there, and I was thinking, what do we a Do we get to fifty? Do we get forty? Is there three candidates? Is the two? And there's no one doing backgroundings. 00:05:34 Speaker 2: It's like the opposite of what's happening now in the Liberal Party federally, isn't it where you've got text flying around going Susan lay got done for fiddling her expenses. Remember that Susan Laye is not reliable on Israel. 00:05:49 Speaker 1: Susan lay the best back by Alex Hark the best post I saw on social media yesterday. I wish I could attribute it somewhere else other people have seen. It was so the Liberals couldn't get out a decent attack on Anthony Alberizi over a five week campaign, nor the proceeding two year three years. Yet they rolled out a weapons great attack on the credibility of Susan Lee. Have you seen them within three days? Yeah, it's exceptional. 00:06:18 Speaker 2: The graphics, Seriously, it is better than anything that they did about Albo. It's extraordinary. 00:06:24 Speaker 1: Whoever's doing that, they should just get that person to run the campaign next time. 00:06:28 Speaker 3: Well, I reckon they should get well, they should get them and kick him out of the parties one of the two. They either need to be running the party or no longer in the party. But yeah, oh yeah, they've suddenly they've suddenly become exceptional campaign against people learn from the conclave. 00:06:42 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, they almost seem to get off on it. A lot of them. They'd rather find each other than their opponent. Of course they do, because there's a certain validating purity about it. They can go, well, Chris, if it's not for those, if it wasn't for the far right, but if it wasn't for the left, we wouldn't be in this position now. So I'm going to tell anybody who'll listen that this is what these people are really like. It's safe in the comfort that they actually have to do any hard work. You run the country for the next three years or the state for the next four. But yeah, the conclave. The other thing I like about the black Smoke is it's not often the organizations draw attention to the fact that they've been incapable of resolving a problem. 00:07:29 Speaker 1: So no decision has been made. 00:07:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't done what was not They haven't done anything. They haven't done anything that's worked well. 00:07:34 Speaker 1: The AFL put up the black smoke on the Willie Rioli story yesterday? Did they ever where they was expectation that you know, they've reopened the case. Port Adelaide announced the press conference of four point thirty and clearly the poor people at Portell left strumming their fingers going any danger anytime now AFL and they, unlike the conclave, then let it out to journal's late yesterday that there probably won't be a result today. 00:07:57 Speaker 2: But that that bit of advice. And there was one background and that didn't happen till about five. 00:08:02 Speaker 1: It happened at five. 00:08:03 Speaker 2: I saw when you guys started the news last night at six o'clock, Rosanna said an evolving story now yeah, because everyone was still trying to work out what was going on. 00:08:13 Speaker 1: It was an extraordinary sequence of events. So Ken Eickley was set to do his regular press conference during the week for the showdown, and the port said we're going to can that. What we'll do is w up the head of football, Chris Davis to talk to you at four point thirty and that made perfect sense, right because it was going to be on the really rarely story. You'd imagine there was a bit of punishment handed down by that point in time. We got to five thirty and no one had heard anything. Port hadn't heard anything. And the end of you to come out and say, look, all we know is that the investigations on going. And he made then he made that impassioned case about why he doesn't think he should be suspended or excluded from the club, And it was a bit similar to what Koshi was saying to us yesterday. But yeah, way waiting for the AFL's white smoke on on some decision being made there. 00:08:55 Speaker 2: So what do the Cardinals do today? Not the AFL, What do the Cardinals do? They do? They just gave back like break for brunch. Yeah, Yeah, there's a really good cardinal from New York. It sounds like he's from the Bronx and he's been sort of chatting away at all the TV shows in America. A cardinal cardinal what was his name? Is it? Tom Madison? But he's got this sort of your ale. Yeah, it sounds like it's from the Sopranos. He's got really good accent. But he was out there. I'm just about to go in now, guys, and off he went. But yeah, now that he's in there, can't get air. 00:09:31 Speaker 1: From him from on the way out. Not that he'll say anything that either, because he took a vow of silence. Nineteen after six. We'll take it a break and let's get into some news headlines next. 00:09:39 Speaker 4: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to line five, double a breakfast. 00:09:44 Speaker 1: Twenty two minutes after six News headlines on this Thursday morning. The service of our veterans are being recognized today in the pursuit of victory against Nazi Germany in the Second World War. It's been eighty years since German forces surrendered unconditionally to the Allies in Europe. Battlefield his during Matt McLaughlin says, we've learned a lot from the six year conflict compared to. 00:10:05 Speaker 5: What happened in the twentieth century. 00:10:06 Speaker 4: We live in a very peaceful time and. 00:10:08 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is due to the Second World War. That we have remembered the horrors of the Second World War. We did learn a lot of lessons. I love Matt are and he's great. Does Battlefield to us. I reckon, he's only half right now. I used to one hundred percent agree with that. I just think there's a lot of people that have started to forget.

00:10:24 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:10:25 Speaker 1: I think the rise of anti Semitism in the world, yep, totally. I think that resistance to the things that have bound the world peacefully, like free and unincumbered trade. I think institutions like NATO. Yeah correct, you know, all these things that popped up after the Second World War were all being challenged at the moment. 00:10:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an amazing thing to think about eighty years eighty years ago. So it would have been a weird, bittersweet feeling in Australia at the time, wouldn't it. We've probably got listeners who are old enough to remember. They would have been, like, you know, there would have been people listening who are now ninety, so you're ten years old. You'd remember your mum and dad celebrating. You might have had relatives who had died or been injured serving in World War II. But the thing was, for Australia, all the joyful scenes coming out of Europe, it was still a pretty bleak outlook in the Pacific, wasn't it. Because Japan hadn't stopped. Well, you had was another what about May? So it was another almost, wasn't it September? So of course, yeah, yeah, September was Hirushima, wasn't it? Yeah? 00:11:30 Speaker 1: So four months? Four months, But it was unforeseen how it would end and how abruptly it would end. You got to imagine there were hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people that were anticipating probably there was going to have to be some sort of ground invasion to the home islands of Japan. Yeah, yeah, So how many people were going to get conscripted and signed up and killed in that conflict? In law of the way it ended, that's right, Yeah, which was the sort of brutalist mathematics that went into the decision behind the atomic bomb. They said, well, how many people die in that? How many people diner full scale Normandy style invasion. 00:12:04 Speaker 2: I was talked him a dad about it last week, and he didn't got the vaguest memories of when he's about three, he remembered the war. He says he's not sure if it was like in real time or just having grown up so much in the backgraft of it. Because he's eighty four eighty three, so he was he was really little. Mum was born the exact day Hitler diyed Wow April thirty nine and forty five. 00:12:27 Speaker 1: Man's been arrested during investigation at a drug trafficking Police searched a property in riche Haven yesterday where they found twelve cannabis plants being grown hydroponically. What had that been legal? 00:12:36 Speaker 2: Was it twelve? 00:12:37 Speaker 1: How many plants? Was that the old it was twelve? 00:12:39 Speaker 2: Twelve if they were different though, that was pre hydroponics. Okay, twelve hydroponic plants compared to twelve of the old fashioned secret stash in the backyard plants like that's right, very very powerful. 00:12:52 Speaker 1: A fifty four year old Highbriy man was charged with the theft of electricity and further drug charges. He was barred to appear in court at a later date. Save Pole is still on the hunt for a silver sedan with alloy wheels and distinctive front lights, which they believe may have fled the scene of a fatal hit run. A twenty year old woman from Green Acres was left dying on Northeast Road with patrolling police performing CPR. Officers are urging the driver to come forward, and the price of beef has edged up slightly with the predictions. It could rise a little more, but it won't reach the astronomical prices of twenty twenty two. Angus Gidley from Rabobanks says Australia has a huge herd at the moment, but our biggest customer America. They've been hit by drought. Intriguingly given the beef debates we've been having between the two countries, he says, relief for shoppers is potentially on the way, but that trade war might change things. 00:13:41 Speaker 6: At the same time, we might see increased demand from our global markets, which creases a competition so that retailer, domestic retailer has to compete with that global market to access to product. I think at the moment that markets are relatively balanced. 00:13:53 Speaker 1: Seven point one degrees outside. At the moment, it's officially cold out there top of twenty Today, it'll get to be a reasonable day and it'll be sunny from the stay on but very cool overy night again seven Tomorrow morning, top of twenty one. The weekend twenty three Saturday, Mother's Day twenty four, twenty four a Monday twenty three, Tuesday, and twenty two. On Wednesday, Tom Ren's in the five double a breakfast studio with this colours custom design, anyhouse, any style, Glotterol garage doors, Glotterol dot com dot Are you mourning? Do you Readay? 00:14:18 Speaker 7: Morning Morning, David? It's Thursday, Teams tonight Fellas and still we wait. What an unmitigated disaster. It's been so messy. Willie Rioli, you did a great job yesterday with Koshi. This one's divisive. He trained last night and these fresh allegations have come out. I agree with David to some degree that those previous incidents with Archie robertson break close, they're on field and if you want to, you know, totally dig up everything that's set on field. My goodness, good luck. But it just goes to show they should have dealt with it in the first instance. These would have never been brought up. It's Thursday and we're still waiting. Goodness gracious. 00:14:55 Speaker 2: Yeah. I get port rallying around yep him and you know, wanting to make sure that he's not lost to the game and that his whole life doesn't gave him. But I thought that some of the comments yesterday, like Chris Davies sort of tutting about this being a so called pylon. Well, if it's a pilon, it's a pylon by respected AFL people like Nick Greenwell, but it's a pylon by the public asking a valid question about why why does it appear that there are two sets of rules? Why the inconsistencies? And this is where so much of it stems from the AFL's process. But I thought some of the sob story, you know, let's all get the violin

out for Willy. Really that Davies was peddling yesterday almost sounded patronizing towards Willy Rowally, like the guy's not from Mars, He's not, He's not a simpleton. He should know that in Australia you cannot actually threaten to bash people, get your family to bash people like that's that's the that's that's what he's accused of. That's a serious thing, and that plays some sort of race card. Get him off the hook. I think he is not going to wash with the public. 00:16:05 Speaker 7: And even with port fans. I think it's the inconsistency that's the big sticking point. And now you know, it's all been muddied a little bit with these other incidents of on field and not condoning it at all. But on field, you know, I can say I don't want to get you, you know, like, But it's very different when you compare it to off field stuff, isn't it when I'm in cold white? 00:16:21 Speaker 1: You know? The silliness of all this is if you line up all the recent sanctions, try to try to pin stitch together what the narrative is The afield's trying to say. Okay, so you've got getting your mates to threaten to bash someone at a game on the next away trip, no case to answer. Dressing up at a Christmas party. You've got what four weeks and somethingss two or four weeks. You've got a really off color comment from Taylor Walker overheard in the compositions, not directed anyone overheard, it's a six week penalty. You've got bashing someone actually outside of a pub, Well, that's a four week penalty. But the worst of them all you had a kid throw a piece of cardboard in the direction of a leer or a lear and he got banned for two years. 00:17:02 Speaker 2: Don't forget having a quiet punt on a couple of games. You're in as a lower tier player who played no role in the outcome eleven weeks. 00:17:10 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's that's it's this matrix with that nobody responsibly. 00:17:16 Speaker 5: Before we go. 00:17:17 Speaker 7: Speaking of Arsenal, I mentioned Champions League yesterday. They've lost two one this morning, so they're out of the Champions League and miss miss some really open chances. Should have been two all on eighty minutes, like Sitter, it's brutal, could have been a different story not to be. And Will's team the Indiana poss So that was seven points down within inside ninety seconds to go three hundred and eighty five games in playoff history previously, you know how many sides of one when trailing by seven points or more with ninety seconds to play once once out of three hundred and eighty five, they've done it two games in a row. The odds of that won in one hundred and forty eight thousand if you go on the previous numbers. So it's one over threety five times one over. 00:17:59 Speaker 2: Three favorite soon if. 00:18:03 Speaker 1: I've just apologized to everyone in the grain, Jerry that called the police at eleven am yes in the morning because they thought a middle aged man was either dying or an excruciating cane. I lost my mind yesterday. Seriously, it was unbelievable. That was one of them. It's twice now, the two most remarkable endings that I've I can recall in this sort of modern year of basketball. But it happened in the last week. It's just staggering. Tyrs Halibert and they said he was overrated. Keep saying it. Let it roll good on you ready? 00:18:34 Speaker 2: Could you end up getting on the new paper? Tommy No, I did no dug in it. 00:18:42 Speaker 4: David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five Double a Breakfast. 00:18:47 Speaker 1: Twenty three minutes to seven. But I thought movies, Lucy in a moment the movie Wheelers in the studio? Who would like to watch on for your wheel spinning goodness on the Facebook and YouTube live stream? Should we do a couple of texts first? The heaps to text after that first hour here before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. 00:19:02 Speaker 2: Good conundrum question from Christian in Hope Valley who finds the AFL and the AFL itself brings the game into. 00:19:07 Speaker 1: Disrepute the fans by not going or losing interest or want it watching one less game a week. You know, interest doesn't die straight away, It just wanes over time. 00:19:19 Speaker 2: A lot of people still saying it's this, This is a story entirely about one thing and one thing only, which is double standards and rob up at about early with some zingers better decide on a Pope scene. They're going to run out. 00:19:34 Speaker 1: Of paypocrossy sausages. 00:19:39 Speaker 2: I wish you'd have sent them some. 00:19:40 Speaker 1: That would have been word's democracy. This is democracy at work. 00:19:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon they would have liked them, you know, because the Catholic Church. 00:19:49 Speaker 8: Is a. 00:19:50 Speaker 2: Latino, a Latin rooted entity, isn't it. You know, Italy, Latin America, the Philippine with a huge Hispanic Haspano heritage through Spanish colonialism, ta Garalog. A lot of the words in their language are lifted straight from Spanish. They would have liked the spicy snag. We could make some more garlic. 00:20:20 Speaker 1: The Pope edition? 00:20:22 Speaker 2: What was money? 00:20:23 Speaker 8: No? 00:20:23 Speaker 1: I like that? The Pope edition? Yeah, I was just trying to find that. What's the papal snag? The Latin haby, miss paper, we have a new. 00:20:31 Speaker 2: Hope has body? Is that a body? I'm not sure miss having Miss Budd corpus. What's happy has been in that context, I don't know what. 00:20:41 Speaker 1: Is happiest corpus. That's a I don't know what it is. That's a loyal for your the law Lucy actually is the lawyer. Luis in the studio. 00:20:50 Speaker 9: It protects unlegal detention. 00:20:53 Speaker 1: Right corpus detaining a person. I don't know what it means. In the instance, if we've got a new pipe, but we don't speak Latin, we do Lusey is in the studio though we do speak movie. I don't know what that means. Now, we've got a hundred of Wall of cinemas about you to give away. Else's going to

spin the wheel and then you can vote on what it is that she is reviewing tomorrow. We had some corkers recently give it a spin. Loose around it goes eight double two three double o double is. The number number eight has been spun up this morning, which corresponds to which year in movie history loose number eight. 00:21:32 Speaker 9: Number eight on my list this week is. 00:21:37 Speaker 10: Nineteen ninety five, nineteen ninety five, nineteen ninety. 00:21:42 Speaker 9: Five A double two three double O double o nineteen ninety five. 00:21:46 Speaker 1: Being thirty years ago. Now sort of it's my ability to comprehend time. 00:21:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, only yesterday to me? 00:21:55 Speaker 9: Ghost? 00:21:56 Speaker 1: Ah wow? 00:21:58 Speaker 9: Or The Hunt for Red October. 00:22:01 Speaker 10: Oh, that is a double two three, double O double O ghost or the Hunt for Red October. 00:22:07 Speaker 1: Oh jeez. 00:22:07 Speaker 2: The nineties were great for movies. They were both great films, terrific films. Isn't a Hunt for Red October your dad's favorite film? 00:22:13 Speaker 1: Well, he loves that movie. I don't know if it's fun his favorite. Well, he loves Sean Connery. Yeah, my father thinks Sean Connery is just the greatest. So one of the things if you really want to irritate him, he can text in today say why did Sewan Conry? Why does the captain of a Russian submarine have a Scottish accent? And he'll go, oh, well, Alec Baldwin in an American accident in that movie. Nobody seems to have an issue with it. It's a great film. Hard for Rocke Tiber is superb. Ghost is terrific because ghosts are really ghost is one of the most iconic scenes in movie history. Yeah, the molding of the clay. How many times has that been parodied? Cleverly? 00:22:49 Speaker 2: Redone in The Naked Gun two and a half. 00:22:51 Speaker 1: Well that's one of them. That's one of the examples. 00:22:53 Speaker 10: Sorry, I've actually got this wrong. They're both from nineteen ninety ninety five. 00:22:57 Speaker 1: Okay, nineteen nine. 00:22:58 Speaker 10: Nineteen ninety so got the films right, got the year wrong. Both from nineteen ninety Ghosts I'm on Team Ghost, Demi Moore and Patrick Swayzey will be Goldberg or The Hunt for Red October two. 00:23:08 Speaker 9: Vastly different categories. 00:23:09 Speaker 2: I believe does the word do you know you mean anything to you lose? 00:23:14 Speaker 9: I mean I know what it means in an English sense, it. 00:23:16 Speaker 2: Will if you see ghosts? 00:23:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, very different category on one's that one's romantic and the other one is action. 00:23:23 Speaker 9: I've got another action. 00:23:24 Speaker 2: One's going to split on gender lines. Possibly. 00:23:28 Speaker 1: Let's find out a lot of calls coming through Sam in Thebanan The Hunt for or Ghost? 00:23:34 Speaker 8: Lucy, do you believe in ghosts legitimately? 00:23:38 Speaker 4: No? 00:23:40 Speaker 8: Well you'll be watching Ghosts you will? 00:23:44 Speaker 1: Adrian and character Linga. 00:23:48 Speaker 8: David. I think it was Naked Guns Where you Go? 00:23:51 Speaker 11: Yah all seriously, that is a great movie. But Lucy Ghost, I'm a military man, but ghost all the way. Patrick Swayzey, Whoopy Goldberg and Demi Moore. I think Whoopy Goldberg's a surprise character. 00:24:08 Speaker 2: And yeah, it was on last week? Was it? It was on TV last week? What's the second half of it? 00:24:14 Speaker 1: Brad and Parafield Gardens good morning. 00:24:16 Speaker 8: Good morning guy. 00:24:18 Speaker 12: One of my top five movies. 00:24:19 Speaker 8: I reckon Ghost for all. 00:24:22 Speaker 1: There's no gender Lawyer three blokes, three votes for ghosts Andy and Henley Vats, good morning. 00:24:29 Speaker 8: Good morning. 00:24:30 Speaker 2: Are you. 00:24:32 Speaker 8: It's got to be in a Hunt for Redock. 00:24:37 Speaker 9: I could have guessed that. 00:24:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, finally, good kas in Brompton, Good morning. 00:24:42 Speaker 13: I'll have to go from a great book, a great movie. 00:24:46 Speaker 1: Hanks for Brick, thank you, and Wichrist good morning morning. 00:24:52 Speaker 6: Definitely Ghost. 00:24:53 Speaker 11: You can't beat Patrick Swayzey. 00:24:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Sally, I think Ghost has it. 00:24:58 Speaker 2: Ghost has it my imagine. 00:25:00 Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, let's give let's give Andy. 00:25:03 Speaker 1: There Wallace past Andy, you're after the movies nd L Wallason and were coming away. He did it. He did do a good short Connery, he. 00:25:09 Speaker 9: Did do it almost perfect Scottish impersonation. 00:25:11 Speaker 2: Then Andy, don't do not judge this by today's standards, particularly the special effects. 00:25:17 Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, it does be. 00:25:18 Speaker 9: Are you talking plot plots? 00:25:19 Speaker 1: Or not. The plot just doesn't special effects though he doesn't need it. No, but yeah, things have come a long way. 00:25:28 Speaker 9: Five years nineteen ninety. 00:25:30 Speaker 2: Yes, for your you can have a big theological debate about Ghost. I think I think it's got some quite profound observations about life, the afterlife, all of that, the idea of heaven and hell. 00:25:44 Speaker 10: Quentin on the text line says time for a snooze, Lucy watch Ghost. So Quentin is not fantasmic an endorsement, A big thanks to Wallace. Next week, we're launching something very exciting with Wallace. 00:25:56 Speaker 9: Spoiler alert that's me next week. 00:26:02 Speaker 1: You said spoiler, then you didn't spoil it. 00:26:04 Speaker 9: We're launching a thing with Wallace this week. 00:26:07 Speaker 1: Okay, that's what's being revealed about movie details coming. 00:26:10 Speaker 10: Tails are coming next week. But it involves a movie, It involves me, it involves our listeners. 00:26:16 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it the Minecraft film? Loose so you're going to be it is not the Minecraft moving target on stage at a special screening. 00:26:23

Speaker 10: No, I'm not dressed up as No, definitely not. 00:26:27 Speaker 1: But that's starting in the next sequel to Mad Max Fury. 00:26:30 Speaker 9: Road, and I won't be finishing filming that either. 00:26:36 Speaker 1: Thank you Louise, Well, that's going to be exciting where she's tuned into the movies. Next week we've got an one hundred movie past thanks to the great people at Wallace to give away and Lucy's little surprise there. Let's check traffic will come back with police and weather. Then were off for the US in just a moment, experience the smooth, rich flavor of macafe today, expertly crafted by trained barista, just the way. 00:26:57 Speaker 2: You like it. 00:26:58 Speaker 4: David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to nine, five, double a breakfast twelve. 00:27:03 Speaker 1: Minutes to seven. Let's say about the weather today and for Mother's Day this weekend. Daniel Sherwin Simpson has the early read for us. Daniel, good morning to you. 00:27:11 Speaker 14: Good morning. 00:27:12 Speaker 1: Take us through the next few days mane. 00:27:14 Speaker 14: Yeah, Well, for the rest of the day, it's been a cool start of the morning. We're going to start warming up to the maximum of twenty today. On Friday, it's going to be another cool morning down to seven, but up to twenty one. Big game on Saturday. We're looking at a maximum of twenty three. Not a drop in the sky, so it'll be a good day for the footy and then ahead on Mother's Day, similar conditions minimum of twenty one, maximum of twenty four. And it should be funny. 00:27:36 Speaker 2: All day, lovely for Mother's Day. But yeah, still no significant rain other than the spots we had the other day. Thanks to that Daniel. 00:27:44 Speaker 1: All right, let's say to say Paul's and you, comestable Holly Frisbee joins us Holy. Two people have been arrested in a stolen car. 00:27:51 Speaker 15: Good morning to you both. Yes, that's correct. About two o'clock this morning, Dog Operations member spottled as stolen Suberusa Daan on Forest Avenue in the opposite direction. The patrol did a U turn and by this time the stolen car had left the area. Police conducted a search and a short time later, with the assistance of police dog Arlo, located two people standing with the stolen car on Norman Terrace. A twenty three year old man from Everard Park was arrested, with the second man running off from police. Police search surrounding streets, locating the second suspect nearby in possession of machete. The eighteen year old man from Windval was arrested without incident and he was charged with the legal use of a motor vehicle, hint of police and possession of a knife in a public place. The twenty three year old man from Evera Park was arrested and charged with the legal use of the motor vehicle and Hindo police. Both men have been refused baw and will appear in the Adelaide Magistrates Court later today. And checks on the Subaru show that it was stolen from a Windsor Gardens home last month. 00:28:47 Speaker 2: Great word by sapole there, Holly, Sydney Constable Holly Frisbee, thanks for that still amount of text coming in about the Willie Rioli matter and Nick in Windvale. This is I think pretty indicative of the general consensus. He says Port have turned the Willy Reoli matter into a race issue when it's poor behavior by a well paid AFL player who's had all the education about this sort of thing that every other person playing and associated with AFL clubs has had. Calling it a pylon and trying to turn Reoli into the victim is the exact reason why everyone is calling it out. It's not a race issue, and if it is, you can't just have a quality when it suits. Thank you for that. 00:29:30 Speaker 1: Nick KEPN coming into it before zero eight thirty ninety five, or he can call us an eight double two to three double as soon as their development on that story, which has to come soon, doesn't I mean today's selection day when you hear it here in five double A. Yeah, it's extraordinary. Let's say to the United States, Mightley Hogan for seven years joins us covering not necessarily a story that's unfolding there. 00:29:50 Speaker 16: One. 00:29:50 Speaker 1: There's been a response from the US, but this remarkable and very concerning situation around the disputed casum of redigent with Indian and per Pakistan. Miley, good morning to you. 00:30:02 Speaker 17: Good morning. 00:30:03 Speaker 1: What's the response been from the White House? What are you hearing with regard to the trajectory of this conflict? 00:30:10 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:30:10 Speaker 17: Well, US President Donald Trump has actually made comment on this not too long ago, saying that his friends with both Pakistan and India, and he would like this to stop now, going on to say that if either ask for help, he will be there. Unclear exactly what he means by those comments, but a number of world leaders are calling for karm in this situation. The United Nations a urging maximum restraint. This has now escalated into the biggest clash between these two nations in more than two decades. So, India launched military strikes against Pakistan, and India said that it hit nine locations, saying that it targeted infrastructure in Pakistan, terrorist infrastructure in Pakistan. Now it says that those strikes were in response to the April twenty second terrorist attack where twenty six civilians were shot in the tourist area of Kashmi. Now, the Indian government claims it's gathered evidence that point towards the involvement of Pakistan based terrorists. That is a claim that the Pakistani government has denied, and it says that this overnight barrage was anything but targeted, with at least nineteen civilians killed, two mosques destroyed, and the Pakistani government has now said that this was an unprovoked and relatant act of war. So, as you can imagine, the rest of the world is watching this anxiously waiting to see what will happen next. 00:31:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a heck of a

situation. Thank you for that, Miley, Miley Hogan there the Channel seven in the US. The animal seriousness. Will you think about India and Pakistan if you did a word association game with countries like Australia or the UK, everyone just goes with cricket. It's the first thing you think of cricket, you know, the huge and fierce competition between these two great cricketing nations going back over the years. I think it was I think it's still in the top ten most attended games ever played at the Adelaide Oval was the India Pakistan match in the World Cup a few years back. There's talk that they're actually going to scrap all the games between them because. 00:32:15 Speaker 1: How can they go ahead? 00:32:16 Speaker 2: Now so dire that they're not even going to play each other. Pretty crazy. 00:32:22 Speaker 1: Crickets actually give us a bit of insight into the world of domestic political politics in Pakistan as well that I don't think we otherwise would have had if we didn't have the name recognition of him run Khan, who I think is sort of laid bare that story being into Australia is a generation of cricket fans knows him run Khan, of course, but it's kind of laid bare. How fraught the domestic political scene is in Pakistan too, where leaders get jailed and there's issues of corruption and games don't get and you know, cricket matches don't get played, they've been moved to other places and so forth because hasn't been safe to play. 00:32:52 Speaker 2: There is a total military dictatorship. For yes, time was a president Ziga. Was he the guy who ran it for I think that's right a couple of decades and then yeah, it's just murky, very hard politics. Understand. 00:33:08 Speaker 1: Well, I try to understand, you know, the inner workers, the dispute over the Cashmere region as well. Yeah, you know that's the problem, is the stakes. But these countries, these are huge countries and they both have nuclear weapons, huge huge armies, nuclear weapons. Yeah, you can see what the potential for this to get out of control is. So hopefully they managed to de escalate. Yeah, let's s yeah indeed, all right yeah eight double two three double double is And now you can text us on the zero four eight zero eight thirty ninety five as well. All jump on the Facebook and YouTube live stream. 00:33:44 Speaker 2: See the NRL is getting aside in Western Australia, are they Yeah? 00:33:49 Speaker 1: So they're going wa and what the red pop in New Guinea as well? Are they? 00:33:52 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:33:52 Speaker 1: Because that's going ahead now obviously with the SA is. 00:33:54 Speaker 2: Just they must have totally given up on South Australia after the Adelaide Rams experience. I wonder if any of our listeners got into the Rams. Did anyone go to Rams games? 00:34:03 Speaker 1: There's only one team in Melbourne, isn't there? 00:34:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Storm. There's three now in Queensland, Gold Coast, Townsville and Brisbane. That's right, there's not more. I don't think. 00:34:18 Speaker 1: I wonder what they happen. I would imagine the appetites in Western Australia would be similar. 00:34:21 Speaker 2: To hear unless than a lot of South Africans in Perth. 00:34:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, mist think that the mining community people a lot of five four people. 00:34:30 Speaker 2: Big English and big South African carry more Union people than league people. But you know that they'd still get into the into the league. Well, in England it's a it's a good working class sport rugby league. I think, is it Wigan? 00:34:47 Speaker 6: Is it? 00:34:47 Speaker 2: Wigan has got a big link to league in in England? But what do we are? We sad that? I mean mister sport himself, Maley is he just sort of finally he's opted out of something, finally he's in Ah, we don't want rugby league? 00:35:06 Speaker 1: He drew the line. 00:35:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that given the relationship with the AFL. Actually, who knows, I reckon, I reckon. If there was an approach I reckon, he might have said, listen, if you don't on that valandis that expansionist valandis bugger from the NRL trying to muscle in to s A will Well, we'll become your pretorian guard. 00:35:29 Speaker 12: Here. 00:35:30 Speaker 2: We've gathered around with gather around as our shield. We've gathered around as our shield. We will make say an AFL fortress, No NRL, I reckon. You can imagine him trying in the mix. 00:35:41 Speaker 1: That makes sense. All right, it's three to seven. We're going to take a break. Five to blade yis is coming up. We went off to Vatican City after seven o'clock with sorry black smoke, no pope yet. What happens next we'll find out right after this. 00:35:54 Speaker 4: David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to line five, double a breakfast. 00:35:58 Speaker 1: Seven after seven. One is slowly rising. It looks like it's going to be a very pleasant morning. It'd be a beautiful day ed of what's going to be a magnificent four or five day period and taking us into the middle of May here in Adelaid, where we're going to get nice temperatures in the mid twenties. The thing that makes this morning a little unique is it's actually genuinely cold seven point nine degrees outside in the city at the moment. You've just turned five to blow news. 00:36:21 Speaker 2: But thatd means it's going to be nice later. Not a cloud in the sky. It's going to be a spectacular looking day. But tomorrow will be cool as well. So the mornings is just starting to get a little bit more brisk. We've got Ryan Fitzgerald coming up in the next fifteen minutes. If you need some help with your footy tips. We'll see about the showdout and his thoughts on that. Then after seven point thirty, big bumper Matt Abraham. We spoke with him on election night. He's reluctant. Pick late last week about that was Matt's beat. A contrarian. Matt just loves being a stirer and I think you can see in real time him just going who's going to win? I'll say that, Yeah, I don't

think he had his heart in the use cheering for the story. Hey, thanks to the rugby league fans who corrected me. I was wrong. Before seven, I was trying to remember how many League teams there are in Queensland, and I forgot one of them, the Dolphins. There are four teams in Queensland, not three. 00:37:17 Speaker 1: All right, let's say to the Vatican the black smoke went up in the wee hours of the morning our time, to signify that the first vote was unsuccessful, to secure two thirds majority and install a new pope. Hannah Sinclair is there covering it all for nine News outside the Vatican. Hannah, good morning to you. 00:37:35 Speaker 12: Good morning guys. 00:37:35 Speaker 1: How are you well? 00:37:37 Speaker 2: What was it? 00:37:37 Speaker 1: Were you there when the black smoke came out the chimney? Hannah, what was that moment? 00:37:40 Speaker 6: Like? 00:37:41 Speaker 12: Well, I was going live and it was Yeah, it was really interesting. I had waited down there to see it much closer in and amongst the crowds, But it took two hours longer than everyone was anticipating. We were expecting to see the first smoke around seventy local time, but it didn't emerge until nine pm. So tens of thousands of people outside the Vatican were eagerly awaiting, and they did cheer as that first smoke emerged from the famous chimney. But of course it was black smoke, which means we do not have a pope yet. 00:38:19 Speaker 1: Have you been surprised, hannak, because it's just for people that aren't familiar with the Vatican politics. Now, this all works, the procession of cardinals and the lead up to the conclave, starting walking through Vatican City and then through Rome and what appeared to be their sort of accessibility and being asked questions by the media. Was that a bit of a surprise to you, Well, I don't know. 00:38:43 Speaker 12: If i'd say it was a surprise. And they're obviously a part of the community and Rome and the Vatican here, so they would come in and out of the Vatican and that's where myself and other media were able to approach them and ask the questions. The Vatican media team were very open about the fact that all the cardinals were allowed to speak to media. They can say whatever they like to say. A lot of them, of course, they don't live here. A lot of them are from all over the world and they they've descended, of course on the on Rome and the Vatican now for the conclave. So I think in terms of the accessibility it was quite good. 00:39:24 Speaker 2: There was a lot of. 00:39:25 Speaker 12: Transparency and a lot of questions about who will be the next post, but they are all keeping their cards very close to their checks. 00:39:32 Speaker 2: Can you shed any light on the actual voting process and unlock? Is there is there a percentage threshold of votes that's required? Is it higher than fifty percent plus one? And also do we know like, is it a preferential system? Do you get to put you three to two one or something like that on

a box. 00:39:51 Speaker 18: That's a realty one? 00:39:52 Speaker 12: No, So it's it's a two thirds majority. So in this case, there's one hundred and thirty three cardinal to a voting, so that whoever is elected the next quote, they have to get eighty nine votes to be the next pope. That's the number eighty nine. And in terms of how that comes about, the most senior cardinal vote first, So it goes in order of seniority in terms of who puts their votes in first, and they can only vote for one cardinal and those votes go in, they get counted, and then those ballots get burned. That and that's when we see the smoke arise and a particular chemical or a different chemical obviously is put in for the black or the white smoke. 00:40:39 Speaker 1: How much is that the days structured from this point in a way that you can anticipate when we may or may not see the white smoke? And I understand they can vote up to four times a day from this point, but do you know it is it? Does it happen at a certain time of day? Can you anticipate it or does to people just sort of hang out all day just waiting to see the fact that could come up at any more women, No, it is a little bit. 00:41:02 Speaker 12: It's more structured than that. So it generally we're told that we may see smoke sort of between ten thirty to twelve thirty, one o'clock in the afternoon, for ten th in the morning, for one o'clock, and then in the evening. Obviously, as I said, we were expecting at around seven to eight pm, but it's in the merged to nine pm per evening. So in terms of those hours in Australia we're talking about you know, the east on East Coast time, it it'd be sort of six thirty pm to nine pm, and then in the later hours of the day we're talking sort of two am to five am. So they're the sort of brackets that we might see smoke, and we would potentially see smoke twice a day. 00:41:50 Speaker 2: Wow. So did the capitals sort of come in and out? Like do they knock off at the end of the meeting and go back to wherever they live? How does it work while they're staying in hotels? Well, because a lot of them are from the overseas, aren't they obviously. 00:42:03 Speaker 12: Yeah, so they're also quested in and they're all assigned rooms. So everyone gets a room in the Vatican and it's walking distance to the Sistine Chapel. They're quite simple rooms. I've seen some pictures of them, and yeah, so everyone's just signed a room and once they've done their voting for the day, they retire. They you know, they eat, they've got to have dinner, and then tomorrow morning they will have breakfast and then have a Mass, and then they will get locked into the Sistine Chapel again and they will continue and that's sort of. 00:42:35 Speaker 8: How it will go. 00:42:35 Speaker 12: But of course the outside world we won't see them, we won't hear anything of them. They's a technological blackout. They've put jamming devices in the Sistine Chapel to ensure no mobile phone signals or anything like that, so

it will. It is a complete blackout until and the only sign we have, of course is the smoke. 00:42:58 Speaker 1: Just remarkable, Jenna, thank you for that. Hannah Sinclair for nine News Outside the Vatican. So based on what Hannah said, So they vote in order of seniority, so most senior to the least. So that would mean Mkola Bitchock, the Australian Cardinal would cast the last vote each and every time. Yeah, a bit of responsibility. Jade Robert's got some thoughts on this. She's out on the road for us this morning. 00:43:18 Speaker 19: Morning do you Jade, Good morning guys. You honestly you have to watch the movie Conclave because it is so timely obviously, and it honestly just gives you a Hollywood snapshot of exactly what's going on right now. It's fascinating but really interesting. Listen to that. I thought we'd put a little bit of an Ossie spin on this vote where we're going to do a Melbourne Cup sweep to pick the Pope. So if you want to play pick the Pope, we've got some great prizes. 00:43:45 Speaker 2: Call in. 00:43:45 Speaker 19: We need four listeners to take part eight double two three double O double ow so we've seen the black smoke. We're gonna have some fun with this, guys. There's gonna be an educational fun morning here. So we've seen the black smoke poor or pouring out of the Sistine Chapel. So we have to move on and find a new pope. So, look, it probably doesn't come as much as a surprise as we heard Hannah say. There's one hundred and thirty three cardinals in total from seventy different countries. So normally, on average, the process takes two to three days, but experts are saying that this vote could take much much longer. When Pope Francis was successful at the church's last conclave in twenty thirteen, he was selected in under two days. Now, the longest ever conclave took place in twelve seventy four. It took two years and two months, so hopefully that doesn't happen. The fastest was in fifteen oh three when it took just a few hours. So let's do the Aussie thing. Let's do a sweep. There's one hundred and thirty three cardinals, as I said, but the punters, the experts, they're saying that there's six that they believe that a serious contenders, So the most credentialed the race favorite is Pietro Paroland. He's seventies from Italy. He's the current Secretary of State, so he's often referred to the Deputy Pope due to his second rank position in the Vatican. So he's described as softly spoken at a seasoned diplomat with global vision. Then the punter's pick is Louis Antonio Gockham Tagel. He's sixty seven from the Philippines. He's got a bit of character, this bloke. He's not afraid to dance in church and show his playful side. He is the Archbishop of Manila. He's really popular amongst bookmakers. He's also very very popular on social media. He's got a massive following on TikTok, with taglecre videos going viral anytime he posts, so he's been nicknamed the Asian Francis. Then we've got Francis two point zero. His name is Jean Marc Aveline. He's sixty six from France. He is often pictured with a big smile. He's known for his folksy, easygoing nature. He jokes and he's got a very ideological proximity to Francis, so he's very popular as well. A big shift from Francis is Peter Edro. He's from Hungary and is seventy two. He's described as cautious, risk adverse, even timid. Then we have a progressive leaning to Don Matteo Zupie. He's sixty nine and he's from Italy. He's often spotted casually cycling down the cobbled streets of Bologna, so he is considered a more progressive pick. An influential African that they're talking about is Peter Turkson. He is seventy six from Ghana. They are saying that he is extremely popular amongst the people. He actually once played in a funk band and has been described as charismatic, tech savvy and a really good communicator and of course a dark horse. We've got to throw one into the mix. How aussy. So Mikola Bichoc, I'm probably not pronouncing you correctly, Bitchoch, thank you very much. Were Ukrainian born Melbourne bass So he's forty five. He's the youngest member of the Sacred College of Cardinals. So the saying that he brings a really unique international perspective to the table with a strong understanding of both Western and Eastern Catholic traditions. But the Vatican observes, is just saying, look, his age makes him a really unlikely contender, but he is certainly a dark horse. So loose q loose in because she's going to bring in the Pick the Pope bowl, and guys, David and Will just do a quick paper siss a rock to find out who goes first. One, two, three. David can go first, Dave pick the Pope, and then we need four callers to call in and be part of our game. 00:47:26 Speaker 2: I get to make my own pick. 00:47:28 Speaker 10: So the seven seven in the running, there'll be David, Will and Jade plus our four callers on the line. We do space for one more, so if you want to go in the pope sweep, we need one more eight double two three double oh double. 00:47:39 Speaker 1: Oh. 00:47:40 Speaker 9: So I've got them all in a random least number one to seven. So pick your number. 00:47:44 Speaker 2: I'll take number seven. 00:47:45 Speaker 9: Number seven, you've got the Guardian. 00:47:49 Speaker 1: Is that David was hoping picking Peter Turks. 00:47:54 Speaker 9: David B. 00:47:56 Speaker 2: Turkson will pick you. 00:48:01 Speaker 9: Number four. You've got Jean marc Avali. 00:48:03 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Frenchman. Please lay down, miss Air. 00:48:07 Speaker 9: Jay didn't pick a number, but shall we pick one on. 00:48:10 Speaker 1: The Ja gets the last one, the last one and Sinclair pick a number between one and seven. That's not what four and seven? 00:48:18 Speaker 8: Ye, I'll go seven. Sorry, I'll go to two. 00:48:24 Speaker 10: Andrew, you've got the Aussie mccola by Shockmation outside. 00:48:30 Speaker 1: Of Teithan Woodcroft. 00:48:32 Speaker 8: Good morning, Yes, good morning. 00:48:34 Speaker 16: I'm at the winery

making the holy wine at the moment, number five. 00:48:39 Speaker 9: Number five. Yours is Peter Edrow from Hungary. 00:48:43 Speaker 2: See the biggies are still in there. 00:48:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, parallel or take Carlos. Good morning morning guys. 00:48:50 Speaker 8: Number one for me, and I'll just quickly say that movie Conclave. I watched it last night. I'm not religious, but holy smoke, the ending was amazing. 00:48:59 Speaker 10: I see what you did there. Thank you, Carlos. So you pick number one. Carlos, Yours is Mateo Zippi from Italy. 00:49:04 Speaker 1: Okay and Anthony in Paraka. 00:49:06 Speaker 16: Good morning, Yeah, good morning boys. Look, before I picked my number, I'd just love to see Antonio through the Philippines win, just for the actual country themselves. My wife Filipino had been over there a few times and for Easter and Christmas, and they just love the Catholic faith day. 00:49:22 Speaker 1: Hope he gets he's still available. 00:49:23 Speaker 2: You might get him. 00:49:25 Speaker 1: You know what captains speak. Anthony gets him. He's got a Filipino link. 00:49:29 Speaker 8: Well, isn't that ironic? 00:49:32 Speaker 9: Beautiful Anthony racket? Thank you? 00:49:34 Speaker 10: That that leaves Jade with the favorite, which I had at number three here pH Jade organizes. 00:49:41 Speaker 1: The competition and then gets the favorite. 00:49:43 Speaker 2: Don't put your house on peril. And yet though the economist has got a really good graphic capability, Yeah, I have look hold on this graph. They do the best graph papal conclave bedding markets. So they've been tracking since May one? What all all the world betting has done. Parolin had blown out a couple of weeks ago, But it's it's it's narrowed up a bit now. Twenty eight percent of markets are backing Pariland, twenty percent are backing the Filipino guy. You go so reasonably. 00:50:17 Speaker 10: So if it's one of our callers today, not Will, David or j there will be a prize to be determined once the new pope is announced. I've got a written down good luck for the five double, a breakfast or a people sweep. 00:50:28 Speaker 2: The black smoke suggests it's not Parilin. Did you think if he was such an unbackable favorite, they would have just gone in as a formality and come out and said, year's him. 00:50:37 Speaker 1: Well it's such a broad you know, mind, such a broad church. Now it's such a book like they're they're not. But what kind of conversation is a cardinal in France having with a cardinalin Garner, And what's one in South America having with the Philippines. What conversations of these guys ever had to do with each other before? Well exactly so I'd be fascinated how many different names get written down on the first go. We'll never find out any of this information, but it's just it is so intriguing. A lot of people love Conclave of the movie too. By the way, we're gonna check traffic. Ryan Fitzgerald has all your footy tips required if you want to tip footy, not popes. That's next. Experienced the smooth ridge flavor from a cafe Today, expertly crafted by trained barista, just the way you like. 00:51:21 Speaker 4: David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a breakfast, big. 00:51:25 Speaker 1: Morning of forty ahead, big weekend of course, headlined by the showdown. Jack Makosius and Alex Neil Bullen actually joined us a little bit later in the morning. Right now, though, it's time to talk to the doy on of footy tipping, Ryan Fitzgerald. Fitzy, good morning. 00:51:38 Speaker 8: To you, sweight, sweet good Pembo. Thanks for having me boys. 00:51:42 Speaker 1: Fizzy, what's the worst place you've ever played footy? Because I reckon if you're a port fan or a player, your answer to that question was a half deconstructed Marvel Stadium last weekend Mars Stadium? Should I say in Ballarat? What's the worst place you've ever played? 00:51:56 Speaker 20: Well? 00:51:57 Speaker 8: I took my son down to Mars Stadium and remember we and I feel for Port Adelaide here because Crows had that game for years. Like I told you boys, the only reason we got rid of it is because Keysy kicked the goal that was called a point and the AFL were sucking up our play at So the worst oval that I ever played on because I had bad memories there. It was the last time I did my third knee reconstruction is Maniker Oval in camera it was three degrees it was freezing cold playing North Melbourne. Jason McCartney did my knee got carried off the ground. Not many people at the ground knew that that would be my last game because I got delisted at the end. 00:52:37 Speaker 11: Of the year. 00:52:38 Speaker 8: But I just want to thank the three elderly women who gave me a standing ovation as I walked off the ground. 00:52:46 Speaker 1: That's nice. Respect. 00:52:50 Speaker 8: The funny thing is we'll get a front bar. A couple of years ago and they had Chris Judd on and I was on the show and they showed the standing ovation that Chris Judd got at the MCG in front of eighty five thousand people in his last game, and then they showed the vision of me coming off. 00:53:10 Speaker 1: Lady Hey. 00:53:15 Speaker 2: Just disappointingly Round eighteen Crows play Footscray in Ballarat later this year, so we still have that bloody game. What yeah, we've still got it. It's listed for round eighteen. 00:53:30 Speaker 8: Why did the two Adelaide teams have to play down in Ballarat? 00:53:33 Speaker 2: Good question, good question. They wouldn't calling with a canton. 00:53:37 Speaker 14: It's a weird. 00:53:38 Speaker 2: Oval as well. 00:53:39 Speaker 8: It's a small oval. There's a howling wind and it's freezing cold, and the worst thing about it the Bulldogs play it really really well. So I know we've always got flogged down there and it just happened to pour Adelaide on the weekend as well. Well. 00:53:54 Speaker 2: We're rip into the Tips tonight, Frio and the Pie is in the West Free I need to stand up. 00:53:59 Speaker 8: But the Pie

are just playing too good a footy. I think that's going to be really tough for Free. The Pies are in that. 00:54:04 Speaker 2: Then Friday Nights and Kilda and Carlton at the g. 00:54:08 Speaker 8: This is going to be a great game. What Saint Kilda and what Carlton are we going to get? I think, I really do think Carton will bounced back after that effort last week. There's questions all over the ground, So the Blues will get up against the Saints. 00:54:22 Speaker 2: Then Saturday Melbourn Hawthorne Melbourne. 00:54:24 Speaker 8: I know when am I talking about Melbourne. Hawthorne Melbourne are playing better and it will be close game, but the Hawks will just get over the line. 00:54:33 Speaker 2: Then the Swans and the Bombers at Marvel. 00:54:35 Speaker 8: Oh, this is at Marvel, so this is going to be a tough game for the Swanees. I think I'm going to go a bit of an upset here and say that the Bombers will beat the Swans. 00:54:44 Speaker 2: Then Gold Coast and the Bulldogs in the territory. 00:54:47 Speaker 8: Gold Coast play really well up in Darwin. There's the other team that we struggle to beat over the years, was the Gold Coast up in Darwin. So they'll bounce back after their Q clash gloss and they I'll win up in Darwin. 00:55:01 Speaker 2: We'll save the showdown for last mate. The Sunday games are Richmond and the Eagles. 00:55:06 Speaker 8: Where's that being played? 00:55:08 Speaker 2: Mcg mcg I'm going to go Richmond. Then then the Cats and the Giants in Geelong. 00:55:15 Speaker 8: Yeah, look, the Cats are playing good footy and the Giants are a bit after the. 00:55:18 Speaker 2: Cats and North Melbourne v Brisbane. 00:55:22 Speaker 8: Brisbane will win that easily. 00:55:24 Speaker 2: Then finally make the showdown. Film counts for nothing. Who's going to win? Yeah? 00:55:28 Speaker 8: This is the thing, you know what, The underdogs always seem to get up. This is going to be a great game. But I'm just going to go on form at the moment and that's saying the crow. So we'll go Adelaide to win that one. 00:55:39 Speaker 2: Good on your mate, thanks next week, cheers mate. 00:55:43 Speaker 8: Good on you boys. 00:55:44 Speaker 1: Speak to you then. 00:55:45 Speaker 4: David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double A breakfast. 00:55:50 Speaker 1: Twitter, it's getting a double dose of Matt Abraham this week. Of course, he joined us for our federal election coverage live on Saturday night and back in the studio with us on this Thursday morning. 00:56:01 Speaker 14: I was. 00:56:07 Speaker 2: Manifest. 00:56:09 Speaker 1: You're eating the doors. 00:56:11 Speaker 7: I tell you what any bosses says, anyone not turning up the day as a bump. 00:56:16 Speaker 1: Mats made good morning to you. 00:56:20 Speaker 13: Good morning, Will, Good morning David. Following the conclave closely, you are, Yeah, we're just talking. 00:56:28 Speaker 2: We're worried. One of our listeners thought that doing a sweep about the next pope was blasphemous. But as the resident torch bearer for the one True faith, can you please get us off the hook? The Catholics don't mind a bit of a pump. 00:56:40 Speaker 13: Well, there's so many Catholic bookies. I mean, you remove them. The whole racing industry would if they still have bookies. Still book is at the track. 00:56:50 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not a gamble. I'm not a gambler. 00:56:53 Speaker 13: Tommy Renji man forget this. And Jay did mention the the longest conclave, which was the one thousand and six day Conclay. This is from Tess Livingston in the oars one thousand and six days from twelve sixty eight to twelve seventy one, the elected Pope Gregory the Tenth. During that gathering, three of the twenty cardinal electors died, one resigned, and local residents took the roof off the building and restrict the cardinals the bread and water to try and force a decision. 00:57:23 Speaker 2: Hurry them up a bit. 00:57:24 Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a go, isn't it? 00:57:26 Speaker 2: Nothing like that on Saturday night. There was a lot of talk last week and even your your caveat laden prediction that dwell too long, But that was that was predicated on some marathon, drawn out Dutton forms minority government type thing. Wasn't that propped up by you know, confused teals or whatever. 00:57:44 Speaker 13: I think I think I went a bit further in sid majority government, which is probably And of course on Twitter there's the odd person with one hundred and seventy two followers, you know, the usual you murdock hack. Yeah, I give them two goes at that, and then you know, you call it a quits and and I applied. Now I'm enjoying myselfs actually, and. 00:58:02 Speaker 2: Then they come back. 00:58:03 Speaker 13: I got Murdock hack and I. 00:58:04 Speaker 1: Go block, everyone gets one free murder. I'm very generous. 00:58:12 Speaker 2: I'm sure Rupert Murdock did ring you last week. So Matt, could you please come under this provincial radio program and say that'll really swing things nationally. 00:58:22 Speaker 13: Half the working life at the ABC. But anyway, it doesn't matter. 00:58:26 Speaker 2: Actually this is. 00:58:29 Speaker 13: This election isn't over. I mean it is obviously over. The Albanesi government has has just hit ninety seats. 00:58:37 Speaker 2: I think having a. 00:58:38 Speaker 13: Look at the Sky News sort of calculated their ninety seats. Now, they were expecting whatever you read. And I don't think they're lying all the insiders in the labor camp, we're not expecting to get the ninety seats. 00:58:56 Speaker 2: No, why they their best case. 00:58:59 Speaker 13: Well, their hope scenario was a minority government, but their best case scenario was really the status quare of one or two seats, so slim majority, not a thumping result we've seen. 00:59:14 Speaker 2: Isn't it an amazing two politics? Because that was their expectation in late April. In late January, their expectation was they were going to lose. So I convinced

every labor person I knew in January was convinced that the very best scenario was some miraculous minority government where Albabi propped up every sitting day would be a hellish nerve wracking event to see if you could cobble this loose ramshackle coverleition together. But everyone thought back then Dutz was just writing this anti woke wave and it all blew up in Dutton's face, didn't they. 00:59:51 Speaker 1: And the great fear. 00:59:54 Speaker 13: For Labor was it would be have to form some form of minority government with the Greens and Adam Bant. You know, we are just powering along and Adam band has now lost his seat the leader of the Greens. I've gone from four seats in the House of Reps to one, and that is still hanging in the balance. They could lose that, they could go to no seats in the House of Reps. And I don't know, you can't play it on radio because it's in German, but there is. It didn't take long to come out a Downfall video from the movie Downfall Hitler in his Bunker, And of course it's been adapted for everything from footy to probably the Papal Conlve whatever, and there's a brilliant one out well. I thought it was funny if you're an Adam Band supporter, you wouldn't be very happy with it. With Hitler being told and Hitler as Adam Bant, you know, and his generals breaking the news to him that he's lost his seat of Melbourne, and there's one great line in there where he takes his glasses off, you know, his hands are shaking and he says, you know, from the river to the sea, wouldn't even get Yarra river. 01:01:06 Speaker 1: So they get about a let. So they've got eleven point seven percent of the vote nationally, the Greens. But what has become clear in the aftermath with Adam Bant losing his seat is that other eighty eight point three percent of the country really enjoyed seeing them lose. 01:01:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, completely, completely. 01:01:21 Speaker 13: Yeah, that is interesting. 01:01:23 Speaker 2: Jewish Australians would have been punching the air because these are the people who are after October seven, when you know, fifteen hundred civilians deliberately rounded up purely for being civilians, not the IDF these women and children in Kibbutzer's. So the Parliament comes together to pass the motion condemning that and Green gaw it's complicated, Yeah, which part of that's complicated? And you know, sort of this side of the mouth giving sucker to anti semitism, while you know, people like Josh Burns is having swastikas painted on his electoral office. And again under Ban's leadership, the response is well, it's complicated. Yeah, no, that is not complicated. That is rooted in history. 01:02:05 Speaker 13: And Adam Bant really did take the Greens sort of off their territory. He took them. I mean, they're a left wing party, okay, but he took them out into territory that was pretty harsh and I think Australians, you know, generally don't like that. You know, Australian voters generally cluster towards the center, and they realized too late. I think that they've done that and they got burnt big time. And the interesting thing is that I think Jeff Kennett form a Victorian Liberal premier, said, you know, be careful what you wish for. There was Adam Bant and the Green advertising was help us get rid of Peter Dutton and then we'll keep, you know, we'll keep. We'll set an agenda for labor. In other words, urging voters to play the preference system. You know, this is how you can vote. You can vote for us and then vote for Peter didn't put him down to what Liberals put him down the cart. Well, it's a preference system that's done Adam Banton And there are a lot of people going, oh, it's unfair. You know, this shouldn't happen. You know, the preference system, it's crook and it doesn't reflect reality. Well it does really. I think Australians understand preferential voting. But you know the beautiful very well what they're doing. 01:03:22 Speaker 2: The beautiful irony though in ban winging about the preference system. As you know, the first time he got elected, the thing that got him into parliament, the Greens did a deal for elections ago with a Liberal party to give them preferences in return for Liberal preferences. He was he was elected on Liberal preferences. So the fact that he's been ousted on labor vote going up to get rid of Dutton's will suck it up, Princess, because that's why I got you out in the first place. 01:03:50 Speaker 13: And he's even. 01:03:52 Speaker 2: Talking. 01:03:52 Speaker 13: I saw one quote where even if he loses it, he's not saying that necessarily means he won't be a leader of the party. 01:03:59 Speaker 1: Leading from outside the parliaments. 01:04:01 Speaker 2: V France. 01:04:02 Speaker 13: I've got a funny feeling Sarah Hanson Young is going to have a different, very different view on that. 01:04:09 Speaker 2: So she's what that party needs, because the Greens in South Australia, like Robert Simms, Tammy Franks, they're not They're not the militant Inner Melbourne Inner, Sydney Boycott Israel type, hard hottheads that you get over there, And if they're going to have any connection of the mainstream, they need to sort of get back to their environmental and big taxing routes and leave the sort of occupy Wall Street stuff to one side. 01:04:40 Speaker 13: Yeah, they Well, it's going to be a hard job though, because the Greens membership, you know, the membership that they've attracted and the voters have attracted have become increasingly radical as well. I think for Sarah Hanton Young, you're quite right, she's she's you know, moderate left. I suppose you could call her. 01:05:03 Speaker 2: That. 01:05:03 Speaker 13: That's going to be a big ask sort of projecting a more moderate image for the Greens while keeping your you know, you rusted on sort of birkenstock and socks, sort of mob. 01:05:14 Speaker 2: Happy moheir poncho. Yeah, so it was a bad result around for the extremes, wasn't it. Like you look at trumpet of the

Patriots. So yeah, poor old Clive spends one hundred million dollars, which is what he spent. Every single newspaper in Australia for the last four months has had these strip ads that cost about five thousand dollars a throw across the bottom of page one. Australians don't want to be welcomed in their own country. Now a lot of people would agree with that assertion. Is it the basis for good government? 01:05:48 Speaker 1: Probably not. 01:05:49 Speaker 2: Is it a number one issue in the minds of most people? Clearly not, because otherwise Albo would have been turfed out. Like the guy's spent one hundred million dollars and he's got about three votes. 01:06:00 Speaker 13: He loves doing it, I think. 01:06:00 Speaker 1: Two hundred and fifty seven thousand votes one point nine percent. 01:06:04 Speaker 13: Yeah, and it looks like Jackie Lamby's in trouble in Tasmania because that she may lose her Senate spot to labor that's ticking along. 01:06:15 Speaker 2: I know this one nation have done nothing. 01:06:17 Speaker 13: No, they've gone nowhere. 01:06:19 Speaker 2: We're being told they're going to win the sixth Senate seat in South Australia. Well, that didn't even come most happening. 01:06:24 Speaker 13: One of the other factors that's that's been quite interesting here is that the Liberals have done quite well against the Tales. You know Tim Wilson who lost to Zo Daniels in twenty twenty two. He held Goldstein from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty two. He's back. He beat her even despite her premature celebrations. How funny they're all hanging you know, they're all hanging down on preferences and postal votes got Tim Wilson across the line. They were swinging heavily towards the Liberal Party. And I wonder whether those probe postal votes were cast early in the campaign, before the work from home stuff and all that sort. 01:07:06 Speaker 2: Of kicked in. 01:07:07 Speaker 13: So the Dutton campaign, and this is a real thing of mine. I suppose glorification of the bush and tradees in Australia, sort of the worship of them. And you see programs like the ABC's Back Roads where country people are always wonderful and look they are, look some of my best friends of country people. But when it comes to the city. 01:07:34 Speaker 2: You mock them. 01:07:35 Speaker 13: So, you know, you have your suburban elites, you have exactly that, and or you have your Captain Kim's. You know, the sort of people in the birds are dumb, they're sort of easily influenced, and then you've got the elites who are apparently terrible. You know, we don't want the elites, the university educated. This is from a liberal party, that the hardliners and the Liberal Party, and yet the elites that have been delivering inner city seats to you know, knocking off a couple of two, and you do wonder, you know, one of the big challenges for the Liberal Party is to get seats back from the till seats that were Liberal seats, and it's shown they can do it. And this is in the campaign when they weren't pitching to get in a city of say effectively said oh, look, we're not going to be able to you're not going to be able to beat the tools. You know, let's go, let's go for the trading vote. Let's give them twenty five cents a lead off their petrol. 01:08:22 Speaker 1: Kuyong still in play, but it looks like Manette Gran will probably hold on, but that one's still not officially called yet either. On that front. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll come back with more from Matt in just a moment experienced the smooth, rich flavor of macafe today, expertly crafted by a trained barrista, just the way you like. 01:08:37 Speaker 4: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a breakfast. 01:08:42 Speaker 2: I was, I'm bugging fish. Here's the buck received manifest. 01:08:50 Speaker 1: You're eating the doors. 01:08:52 Speaker 13: I tell you what any buses saves anyone there not turning up the day and. 01:08:56 Speaker 2: The dump matts. 01:09:00 Speaker 13: Some nice spin to look at man we have just before that, there's visual spin which I can't use on radio. But Vincent Tazia opposition leader yesterday. This just cracked me up on Telly, and my wife's sitting next to me, Helen. Then you know, she's knitting or whatever. She doesn't always, you know, it's like having a radio on often. But he gave a press conference in the shoe shop talking about how bad business is, and in the background there was these packets of sneaker sneaker straighteners. I thought, here's one of those things you know on TV. You're not really listening anyway. I'm on I'm on the iPad or you know, tying some fishing traces or something like that. And then you look up and what's he talking about it? 01:09:42 Speaker 15: Now? 01:09:43 Speaker 13: I didn't know you could get sneakers straightness? 01:09:45 Speaker 10: What do you. 01:09:47 Speaker 13: I've never seen anyway, I put that aside. 01:09:50 Speaker 1: Weird invention? Have you had? 01:09:53 Speaker 2: The stranger? Sneakers? 01:09:55 Speaker 1: Never crossed my mind? 01:09:59 Speaker 2: Now? 01:10:00 Speaker 1: Do you reckon? That's what Vincent wanted you to get out of that press? Okay, I don't know if there was a message. I don't know anyway. 01:10:09 Speaker 13: No, Now, there were there were some surprises, you know, obviously fadom Band and obviously for Zoey Daniel. But there's also some lessons there, and that is, never ever celebrate in a close result until the last vote is counted. This is a Zoe Daniel on election nighting in a hard campaign team set in Goldstein. Hope wins, nah, no. 01:10:40 Speaker 5: Votes win. 01:10:41 Speaker 2: Sorry every time for conservative people, there's still been silver lightnings at this campaign and seeing those up themselves in a city tosses getting their come up. And as well, because it's a smug, aren't they like you? 01:10:56 Speaker 13: There's no righteous she was dancing in her office and all this. I mean, that's fine, just don't put it up on social

media. That's a two outitive. 01:11:05 Speaker 2: Mats. 01:11:07 Speaker 13: Now, something happened last night. I had to happen before I had to go on TikTok, so I really finally, at the age of seventy one, arrived in the you know, in the modern media, you downloaded the app. No no, no, no, Well, let's take it one step at it. I want to explore the sneaker straighteners first and then. But some people, of course, not not some people. A lot of people are just sort of grappling with the grief of the Adam Bant lost, none more so than Abby Chatfield, who is apparently an influencer but a huge Adam Bant fan, and she posted this. I think a couple of well, I think last night and the night before have listened to this. 01:11:44 Speaker 21: Go to sleep because I'm happy anxiety by Adam Bant losing his seat. I was so busy celebrating Dunton losing that I didn't even think it was possible for Adam bandfloose's seat. 01:11:53 Speaker 1: I don't think it was possible. 01:11:57 Speaker 13: What does it mean? 01:11:58 Speaker 19: What does it make that Miley. 01:12:01 Speaker 21: Cyruh's song, I don't know if you guys know that song. I'm not feeling good, so I'm going to sleep. I have seen it's been neck and neck. I don't get how that is. 01:12:11 Speaker 4: Is it neck in neck or. 01:12:12 Speaker 21: Neck and neck blow? That can't be possible, strange events for everything to go to labor. I can't wit see the results of who voted. How do you think it's also that a lot of people who were voting Greens in Melbourne, like, have they moved away from Melbourne? 01:12:32 Speaker 1: I don't know. 01:12:34 Speaker 21: Have they redistributed somewhere else? 01:12:36 Speaker 1: I don't know. 01:12:39 Speaker 2: Yeah they got tracked out. 01:12:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an Ockham's razor thing happening there is She's going to get there eventually. It might just be that people don't like Adam Bant, the Greens and their policies. 01:12:50 Speaker 2: I like, how are we ever going to know how everybody's voted everywhere? We'll give you a clue, aec dot gallant au. 01:12:58 Speaker 1: It's all there. 01:13:00 Speaker 13: Will Adam Band will his next job be selling wind turbines in Gaza? 01:13:04 Speaker 2: We don't know. He might speaker straight. Oh, Happy Happy. 01:13:12 Speaker 1: Camp was celebrating get on your Mate, magnificent work. 01:13:19 Speaker 4: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five Double a Breakfast. 01:13:24 Speaker 1: Ten minutes after eight break. It ain't coming up in a moment. As you've been hearing in five double A traffic reports throughout the morning, the freeways a disaster son this morning. The traffic is down to one lane, both inbound and outbound. A truck caught fire near Bridgewater about about an hour ago, and what's followed has been absolute disaster for our poor old, long suffering freeway commuters who I don't know what the ratio is of days they get commutes that are unaffected by some sort of disaster. But it doesn't feel like it's It feels like it might be a fifty fifth deproposition at best. 01:14:01 Speaker 2: Well, you don't feel like there's ever a week where there's not a disruption at least once, do you at least once. 01:14:08 Speaker 1: If not a couple of times. So today sounds like it's a bad one. If you've driven through and you've seen it, we'd love to hear from you. Eight double two three double O double is the number or textus on zero before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five Really excited this half hour. We've got Alex Neil Bullen and Jack Lakoshi's both coming up for our big Showdown Chat both their first showdowns of course, just newly right back in South Australia. South Australian's returning home. We'll talk to them about that experience, what it's been like and what's going to be a huge game on Saturday night. So that's ahead. Also the sound off of the Carolt smart diatar. There's something you'd like to get off your chest, get calling now eight double two three double o double O. Rin yourself. This great South Australian made product, the care Alert smart dialer, vaded at over three hundred bucks. This thing is an absolutely superb product to have in your family, providing peace of mind for people that might be getting a little bit older. Maybe they're don't feel it safe at home, maybe the people with a pre existing health ailment. Whatever it might well be, it's a great product to have in one you can win just by getting something off your chest. Have a rant in a rave, have thirty seconds worth of airtime to prosecute whatever argument you would. 01:15:14 Speaker 2: Like, no point bottling it up. 01:15:15 Speaker 1: Well, it's exactly right better out than in, as they say. 01:15:20 Speaker 2: Well, a lot of coverage in the last twenty four hours about the shock defeat of Adam Bandt in his seat of Melbourne, leaving the Greens leaderless. The search will soon start for a replacement. His deputy Marine Ferouki is touted as a obvious choice to run, given that she's currently the number two. But our understanding and we haven't had this confirmed yet, even though I have texted her and uncharacteristically haven't heard back, which I'm sort of taking as a yes, very strong expectation that Sarah Hanson Young will be running. South Australian Green Senator Sarah Hanson Young will be running for the national leadership of surely. 01:16:02 Speaker 1: She's Green chants. 01:16:04 Speaker 2: Well, this is why we're going to bring our next guest into the conversation, because I'm not quite sure how the mechanics work with the Greens with the limbs. It's the party room with and the party room only with the Labour Party's combination of the parliamentary caucus and also grassroots members. Tammy Frank's long serving and very well known MLC for the Greens here at the state level, is on the line. Tammy, good morning and thanks for joining us. 01:16:30 Speaker 18: How do you go to morning? 01:16:31 Speaker 2: How do you guys go about picking leaders? How

does it work? With the Greens well, in this. 01:16:36 Speaker 18: Case, in the federal parliamentary leadership decision, it will be a member of those elected MPs, be those Senators or members of the House of Representatives. There was a clever site back in twenty twenty with the memberships of the Greens having a look at the labor model, which is the fifty to fifty model, fifty by the membership of the party in fifty percent by the MPs, or indeed an entire membership led model which would have seen the elected MPs now go out to a primary sort of competition if you like, over the next few weeks. But it didn't reach. While it actually was successful that Green's members chose to look at a membership wide decision making for the leader process, it didn't get the two thirds majority needed to change the constitution, even though it did get an overwhelming proportion of the membership supports. 01:17:31 Speaker 2: The one room it will see the MP and. 01:17:35 Speaker 18: Likely the one remaining Elizabeth Watson Brown, who if she holds onto the seat of rhyme, will be in that party room. It will be either eleven members or twelve members going into that party room and deciding who will be the next leader. 01:17:49 Speaker 2: Because your senators are all still there, aren't they. You've got eleven senators, so you still have the balance of power in the Senate, don't you. 01:17:55 Speaker 18: Yes, there's eleven senators. In fact, there was a senator elected pretty much in their own right getting quota across the country for the Greens this time, so we've got the full compliment in each state, not the territories. And with Lydia Thorpe having left the Greens previously, that brings the total to eleven. 01:18:15 Speaker 2: I don't know if you'd be up for a bit of preemptive endorsement, Tammy, but I've been told by people close to Sarah that that she's definitely going to do it. Given the fact that the Green vote held up pretty well in Essay compared to the other states, do you think that Wooden should bolster her chances of running for and winning the leadership. 01:18:37 Speaker 18: Look, the Senate vote was really strong right across the country, but Sarah got for the first time at historic quota in her own right yere in South Australia. It was a very strong campaign. I think she's also I think the longest serving member of that party room. She's been there since the days of Bob Brown, and while there's Nick mckimmon David Chubridge who've also served time in state parliament. Nick McKim was actually the leader of the Tasmanian Greens and fellow MLC there for a while in TAZI in state politics. I think Sarah and Marine and Larissa have definitely been the names that I've heard in conversation, but I haven't had a direct conversation with anyone in the federal party room about this. 01:19:18 Speaker 1: Tabby. What's your analysis or your take on the Greens federal result overall, which saw the overall vote only drop half a percentage point, so essentially holding from the election previous, yet losing those two Lower House seats. 01:19:35 Speaker 18: That's right. I mean, the Australian system in the lower House is a system where people almost choose who they hate the least. It is actually how our preferential system works, so you can vote with your heart as well as with your head and your vote will flow through. In this case, if the Greens said, you know, just had a few hundred or a thousand votes here all their difference, we'd been seen quite different results a number of those lower House seats. But that's you know it's worked in our favor before, it worked against us. This time the labor parties come to government with a thumping majority, but not much more of a vote than Bill Shorten got across the board when he lost. Those are figures that show that people are rejecting, you know, two party politics. They're looking for something different. They're voting with their heads and their hearts, and sometimes you'll get unexpected results, but it is actually choosing the person that they hate least. 01:20:31 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely well. I don't know how how to go down with the Greens rank and file, but we said the other day that we're on team hands and young here at five double A. 01:20:41 Speaker 8: Maybe that's probably the kiss of adverse. 01:20:45 Speaker 1: Endorsement, isn't it? Whatever effect we want. 01:20:50 Speaker 2: Purely on parochial lines. But we'll see what happens with it anyway. Debbie Franks, thanks for joining us this morning for breaking it eight. 01:20:56 Speaker 18: Thank you. 01:21:00 Speaker 2: Tell anyone I. 01:21:00 Speaker 1: Think Marine Feriki will be playing that bit of audio to the party room, so too. 01:21:04 Speaker 2: Pro nuclear irridiot took them. 01:21:07 Speaker 1: Radio station and packing. Sorry, Sarah. 01:21:11 Speaker 2: People who think that extinction rebellion should all be jailed indefinitely. These are the kind of people that are behind it, but hang on broader repeating that's right. 01:21:19 Speaker 1: Let's check traffic experience the smooth ridge flavor of macafe today, expertly crafted by trained barristers, just the way you like it. 01:21:25 Speaker 4: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five Double a Breakfast. 01:21:31 Speaker 1: Yeah we read Cornis. It's the Holy grahmm sorts. The showdown this weekend. 01:21:42 Speaker 2: It's going to be a massive game. 01:21:45 Speaker 1: And then the build up. We've got a massive double barreled forty segment for you this week thanks to Harvey Norman's Clearest Center, cooking appliances, washing machines, dishwashers, TV's in More. Nine to one nine Marion Raid, Marion, Alex Neil Bolland and Jack lakoaches in the five Blow Breakfast studio at the same time. Gentlemen, good morning to. 01:22:03 Speaker 20: You, Good morning, Thanks for having us. 01:22:05 Speaker 1: Good a guys. 01:22:06 Speaker 2: It's not gonna be like one of those boxing wiyh ins, is it where we need to

You're in the middle of. 01:22:09 Speaker 1: A mato luck now. 01:22:11 Speaker 22: Luca and I we met early days before Luko got drafted. We had a coffee together and all the wisdom and excellent to see on the field. Now I'm claiming, is that right? 01:22:21 Speaker 1: Just so you would you seek him out? 01:22:23 Speaker 2: You text him. 01:22:24 Speaker 20: We've got through the sad manager, so lots of good advice over the years. 01:22:28 Speaker 1: So now we both ended up, but you're not going to haven't sought him out this week? Just to get a sense of, you know, what's going on to the boys playing. So this is this is fascinating because we we what have we showed in fifty seven how we had lots of showdowns. But you know this is both your first that you're to be playing in. So I just want to ask you both individually. Have we started with you Alex? Do your observations are the build up this week being part of it, what you thought of it being outside? And and does it feel what does it feel like compared to what the equivalent big game would have been maybe at Melbourne, which would have been Yeah, in Melbourne we. 01:23:02 Speaker 22: Didn't really have King's Birthday or yeah, King's Birthday, but we probably had maybe three or four rivalries. Richmond we had the Anzac eve gain King's Birthday. So for me, this is an intensified version of that because there's only two teams in your state, which is really exciting for footy. Probably as a players perspective, when you're in there and you're in the hustle and bustle, you don't buy into that narrative as much because it is one a game of footy, but also the footy industry, as we've spoken about I think it was last week around Every week is so different. Teams can ebb and fly with form momentum. So for us, all our focuses this week is creating the same version of what you saw the weekend prior against Culton and delivering that and then the intensity and rivalry will flourish within itself. 01:23:44 Speaker 1: I'm sure have you seen the built up jacket? Been your first time seeing it from the inside as well? 01:23:48 Speaker 20: Yeah, it's pretty cool something that you know you watch as a kid every year. And unfortunately I won't be out there this weekend, but I hope i'll be there for the second one. But yeah, I think the fans definitely drive the bloody, the rival and the intensity to it. It's up for the two teams to rock up and give them something to watch and keep it going. Does it come at the right time for you guys? 01:24:07 Speaker 1: Do you think given the disappointment of last week does it because you have naturally be flat after a loss, but you come into a showdown week, it's, I mean, no better time to bounce back. It's definitely a bonus. 01:24:17 Speaker 20: Like we were not at the level last week, and as you said before, like if you're not quite there, you can have your lot, your lows can be real low. And no, we've definitely got some work to do. And then yeah, the fact that it's a show

down is probably a little bonus. 01:24:30 Speaker 2: On top of that, He's had a sentiment that shared within the Crows, Alex because I think you know a lot a lot of Crow supporse you'd sort of rather be playing port when they're coming off a reasonably easy and dignified three goal win as opposed to really being under pressure to prove a point this weekend. 01:24:48 Speaker 1: But they're the games you want to be part of. 01:24:50 Speaker 22: The games where both sides are there, as Luco just touched on and at their best, and then being able to within that that game figure out how to win the game of foot you with any intensity is high finals like and from speaking to people who have been a part of these games for many years, no matter where each team is on the ladder, no matter what the form line is leading up to the game, there is an intensity which is finals like which as a player, that's what we play for. You want to play big games, finals, footy and hopefully our boys we can flourish in that. 01:25:17 Speaker 2: Watching you two guys here, like, clearly you've got a lot of respect for each other and you're talking about how you went out for coffee and clearly both sitting here happily talking like two perfectly intelligent, civilized human beings. But when you're what we're expecting. What I'm saying is you think about the last showdown, the lead up to that, and you know Josh was on our show he made his comment it blow up is a huge thing. I'm just wondering, like, as players, do you sometimes think this sort of hatred stuff is all a bit confected and overdone. 01:25:49 Speaker 20: No, I think it's amazing, Like I think it's why you play. And I think definitely the fans are the ones who drive it. You know, either grow up here they are probably a crow supporter, reports supporter. Yeah, and you don't like the other one you are, So I think it's up to us to keep performing, keep bringing the games, making them exciting and keep keep the rivalry going. 01:26:06 Speaker 1: I reckon, Yeah you're playing Alex little Bertie. Tommy didn't do the full training yesterday, is that right? 01:26:12 Speaker 2: Yeah? 01:26:12 Speaker 22: At that age mate where I managed week on week. Yeah, I'm ready to go Cherry right. Got a great relationship with Bergo and it was just something a part of my week to make sure I still get the k's under the legs, but just don't touch as many footies. 01:26:25 Speaker 1: And we've just jogged my memory here, Jack just about both browing up at South Australians as well and going away making a professional career, coming back to be part of a showdown. Do you guys have memories of going to showdowns? 01:26:35 Speaker 22: Yeah, I went to a from memory. I feel like they're always really hard to get to your tour. Yeah, they were family, so we woudn't probably tune in more on the TV. 01:26:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go to your favorite showdown memory then, Jack that you went to. 01:26:49 Speaker 20: The Angus Morn for his bounce as well. 01:26:51 Speaker 1: Those back at Footy Park, Oh that was brutal. 01:26:55 Speaker 20: I don't know, but they're always like mark them on the car and they're ready to watch me. Even the last six or so years up up on the Goldie the other games I always turned into. I always came to see how they were. 01:27:04 Speaker 2: I like Joe were chadding my affair, but need to have a bipartisan port Slash Crows unity ticket on this ban the Ballarat game. How many times did you play the gold Case Sounds? 01:27:15 Speaker 1: You played every year, didn't you? 01:27:16 Speaker 20: I played ye fair a few games and always against the dogs who played very well. 01:27:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, going for just seeing go. It's just how can we torment all the interstate sides? Because Colin, when I'm playing the count I'm playing. 01:27:28 Speaker 20: Then Mack and fly to Melbourne and then drive another hour and a bit and stay somewhere. 01:27:31 Speaker 1: So it is footy. 01:27:34 Speaker 20: You are to play in the state, play everywhere. But yeah, some teams that get looked after. 01:27:38 Speaker 1: A bit the knee tracking, so you're giving it a rub. Is that sort of subconsciously with it? Yeah, show Down, this be a bit subconsciously. No, it's going really well. I had a pretty big session last night and pulled up fine. So hopefully to be back at some point before the buy play a game at least, so that should be good. Excellent, it's not too far away. And now that's the Showdown's going to be a huge week. Thanks for coming in, gents. It's great both in his unique opportunity to South Australian bokes who went away and come back and they both have the shirt show it to be nice for no trash or some I wanted some l quotes to be fair. Last year with Josh it was a throwa at the end you said you'd like to say so jents. Yeah, have any final words for the opposition fairs silences? We'll take that silence you. You could just hear the two media both clubs Shuts and down your. 01:28:26 Speaker 2: North just went sweamt on their head and the chairman too. 01:28:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon they just both off on their plated jet sex comedy. 01:28:34 Speaker 4: Thank you guys, David Pemberthy and Will Goodings six to nine five double a Breakfast. 01:28:41 Speaker 1: Twenty minutes to nine. We've had some remarkable people in the studio over the course of the last decade plus have done remarkable things, undertaken all sorts of incredible journeys. This one is going to be right up there. Adelaide surgery doctor Matthew Hutchinson will begin a four thousand, two hundred and sixty five k walk from Mexico to Canada, very very shortly, raising money for children's education. He joins us in the studio. Now a Matt, good boarding to you. 01:29:07 Speaker 2: Good morning boys, Matt. This is the wildest thing. So it's called the Pacific Crest Trail. Four thousand, two hundred and sixty five kilometers long. Do you start in Canada and head south or do you start in Mexico and head north?

01:29:22 Speaker 23: You put your foot across the border in Mexico and then head north to Canada. 01:29:27 Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, So a couple of. 01:29:30 Speaker 2: Big nights in Tijuana before you leave is at the plan? 01:29:33 Speaker 5: Hopefully not. I don't think you want to head off Dusty. 01:29:36 Speaker 2: On a trip like this. 01:29:38 Speaker 1: How do you train for a journey this long? 01:29:40 Speaker 8: So? 01:29:41 Speaker 1: And what are the sort of individual what are the component parts? How much are you walking every day? 01:29:46 Speaker 23: Look, mate, I'm the reverse of elite athlete. You just have the AFL boys in here before. I'm the opposite. I saw him in the car park. I'm rocking a decent dad pod. So I'm you won't be after this. I've been plotting along. I mean, we've got some We're so lucky in Adelaide, I was in Mariota yesterday in the conservation park and it's just beautiful up there. So really it's been week by week, day by day, increasing mileage with a pretty heavy pack on my back and getting used, getting used to it. I pulled the old man calf a few weeks ago. Just my physio is like, what you did this walking? I was like, yeah, just walking. So yeah, I've been doing the best to condition myself. But on a walk like this, it's not like a marathon. When you turn up for one day. A bit of the conditioning comes on the trail, so to speak. So sure as you get going, you adapt walk yourself in a form. 01:30:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you do? So you've got the pack? Are there are there stop points on the way with accommodation to a stupidly middle class. 01:30:46 Speaker 5: Question, no, or you know you camp completely unsupported. 01:30:50 Speaker 23: So I'll carry everything on my back in a backpack, and there are designated camping sites where you would just pull over and pitch your tent and camp there and you with other people. No, so I'm going solo, like kind of full forest Gump style, just heading off. I'll try and grow a bit, but it will be probably a ginger mangie neck bit at best. No, So I'm by myself and not not with a group or anything like that. 01:31:16 Speaker 2: What about food? What do you do for food? 01:31:18 Speaker 23: So you carry food on your back and you try and keep your weight down, and every kind of three to ten days, depending on the terrain, you'll come across a road and you'll hitchhike into a town resupply it the kind of local Drake Supermart equivalent? 01:31:32 Speaker 5: Are that sponsored Drakes or it? Or Independence food Land? 01:31:38 Speaker 23: Yeah, so you'll fill up your pack, then hitchhike back the trail and continue on your way. 01:31:44 Speaker 2: You're going to see some amazing country. 01:31:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty incredible. 01:31:47 Speaker 23: I mean, the Pacific Crest Trail begins in southern California, So the first eight hundred kilometers are through desert, like scorching hot desert, and then you move into the Sierra Nevada Mountain Range, which is our pine regions GLACI, which is snow and ice. And then you're into the Pacific northwest of you know, blush pine forests of Oregon and Washington. 01:32:07 Speaker 2: State, and it will be summertime too. 01:32:11 Speaker 23: The other thing, Dave, is that the seasons are changing as you're walking. You know, it's like a human migration story. Really, you're you know, So I'm starting late spring in the desert and then I'll be kind of heading into summer. And the trick is try and get to Canada before the first winter snowfall or the trail will be impassable. So there's a bit of a bit of a clock ticket. 01:32:31 Speaker 2: So what about wildlife cougars. 01:32:35 Speaker 5: It's not the kind of cougars you're accustomed to date, but not on back at the times. 01:32:41 Speaker 23: Look, there are that, there are mountain lions, there are bears where I'm going, would be very unusual to see a grizzly bear, but lots of black bears. So you need to be very careful how you store your food and things. But probably the biggest risks, honestly, the things that stop people walking the emotional toll, the loneliness, the isolation. 01:33:00 Speaker 5: Listers, stress fractures. 01:33:03 Speaker 23: There and falls, you know, if you slip and sprain your ankle badly or break a bonu's obviously all over. So they're the things that stop people much more than grizzlies, don't. 01:33:12 Speaker 1: Haven't I a big fans of the program alone? And those people, yeah, you're right, and the people that the thing that gets most of them out there is the sense of isolation and the loneliness and the family. The moment they start thinking about family. You know you've got one episode left in Yeah, you've got no chance, but you'll be able to still be in contact. 01:33:29 Speaker 5: Yeah to some extent family. I mean, I cry and quantus ad so I'll cheer up. 01:33:35 Speaker 23: But yeah, I've got the most amazing wife Annie there I go, and and four beautiful little kids. So as much as they will sustain me, knowing they're cheering for me, I think it will be unbelievably hard. I mean, I've never done anything like quite like this. I don't know, but I think it'll be bloody tough at times. I will have a to answer your question, will a train of thought? A GPS tracker so my family can track me, and at some occasions like an SMS back and forward with that, so I will be kind of contactable to some extent. 01:34:10 Speaker 2: If I had a GPS tracker on me and I was doing this walk, I would say after three weeks, I'd made it to the Napa Valley and I decided to stay there. 01:34:17 Speaker 1: Like here's a move for me. 01:34:18 Speaker 2: Six months appears to be in a restauran every night called the hitching Post. 01:34:22 Speaker 1: There's no sign that he's unhappy. 01:34:23 Speaker 2: He's ever the steak fruits again and a bottle is Infandell. 01:34:28 Speaker 1: Tell us about the cause. 01:34:30 Speaker 15: Mat. 01:34:30 Speaker 23: Look, I won't, you know, unwrap my life too much.

But to keep things short, as a young kid, I didn't really have a lot of hope or future. Things weren't going great for me, and had a two parents that work their asses off but were from a low socio economic environment. And I was actually homeschool kid, and I had visions of becoming a doctor and a surgeon. That was actually my dream, even though I. 01:34:54 Speaker 5: Was just a rap bag. 01:34:55 Speaker 2: And but you realize that dream. 01:34:57 Speaker 23: Well, at the age of sixteen, school gave me a scholarship and that fundamentally changed my life and enabled me to achieve my dreams. And you know, children's education is really really important to me. So this hike is about raising dollars to provide educational scholarships for disadvantage kids. I really want to try and bridge that gap because I don't think it's fair that, you know, some kids in Australia are missing out, and I'd like to create at least one person hopefully many, but at least one disadvantaged child an opportunity like I had. 01:35:35 Speaker 2: Mark Twain said words of the poor child Arsenal, and you're living proof of that. Mate. You know you've got the education you need, but you had to do it with so many hurdles along the way. And to become a surgeon the way you did with a pretty limited educational sort of opportunity at the start of your life is a great basis on which to be doing this. So on behalf of everyone, not just here in the shite, but I reckon the whole statement you on. 01:36:02 Speaker 5: Yeah, and if you allow me to and I can occasionally, I'd love to update you guys. 01:36:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be awesome. Yeah, we do a live cross. 01:36:08 Speaker 5: Hike and just yeah plug I do have a page running. 01:36:12 Speaker 23: It went live yesterday, so just big Hike dot org is the page where people can if they'd like follow me or just all support the cause. 01:36:21 Speaker 1: That'd be great. We'll get a bit of Fleetwood Mac go your own way, so we'll get the full forest Gump feeling happening. That'd be tremendous. Let's definitely do that. 01:36:28 Speaker 2: You'll be careful in Tijuana too. I won't be going there. Yeah, if anything happens, I know a guy called Miguel who can get you out of a scrape at the drop of a hat. Mate. But beyond that, four and a half thousand k's before you get to Canada almost it's going to be one hell of a walk, and no doubt it will be a great success, great challenge, but such a great cause to be doing it. Format So all the best, I like, mate, no, thanks so much, and hopefully I get there. You will. 01:36:56 Speaker 1: We'll check in with you across the hike. Looking forward to that as well. Dr Matthew Hutchinson our guest on five double A Breakfast. Let's check traffic now. Thanks to the great people at mcafe. Experience the smooth that rich flavor at the cafe today, expertly crafted by trained brister, just the way you like. 01:37:12 Speaker 4: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to nine, five double a Breakfast. 01:37:17 Speaker 1: Minutes to nine. We just heard traffic. It's a disaster sign out there, just to reiterate some of it. Two incidents on the freeway down track, a truck fire at Bridgeward and a three car crash just after the crapers on the Southeastern Freeway for inbound, a two motor vehicle accident on the corner of Springbank Road and Goodwood Road for the commuter for commuters heading east, and then a five car crash on Northeast Road next to Holden Hill Police Station with delays up to twenty minutes there. So if you're stuck in traffic, maybe take some solace in the fact the owe not alone this morning. The freeway one sounds like a disaster, so multiple incidents there. We had a Texter who's been walking alongside that the freeway this morning and giving us a sense of just how stuck the traffic because he said or wasn't moving And I just can't find the text now, but they're an excellent play by play of Look, guys, I think it's more than the truck. And over the course of his hike this morning, you've actually got to the other crash that we've just told you about and said there's multiple incidents that just make it impossible there where the traffic wasn't crawling, it was literally stationary. So thank you for all your feedback this morning. It's just again, as we say, our simply these go to people that rely on the Freeway, but it is a nightmare seven minutes, Tony. We'll just have a look at the fuel situation now before we get into the showdown tickets give away component of the morning. It's better to be a member with RAA Road Service Petrols. It's a mixed bag, unlettered. You can get it the full sweep almost a dollar fifty and almost a dollar sixty. So let's start with the most expensive among the cheaper options. The EGM Pole Seepred Grifts drives a dollar fifty nine point nine. I wouldn't pay any more than that today because you can get it for a dollar fifty two point seven in a place like the mobile at blair Athole Prospect Road. That's great. The Liberty Port Adelaidees in Minton Street's pretty good. Their dollar fifty three point nine VPX Convenience Salisbury Road dollar fifty six point nine diesel. It's really been anchored in a mid to high dollar sixty range for a while now. The mobile Hillcrest Northeast Road dollar sixty four point five and the mobile Shadow Part Commercial Road dollars sixty nine point five. If you were to get to the showdown, get calling right now, eight double two three double o double five. Lucy and Jess ready and waiting to take your calls. The game is hard to win, but simple to play. We play a little bit of audio. You tell us which showdown that that moment came from. There are fifty seven showdowns. Now, if you've been listening closely, you'll know what what are we up to Thursday this week? So two or three of those have been eliminated showed out fifty seven. 01:39:43 Speaker 2: We've done the Jenkins goal. Yes, we've done the Monfreeze goal. 01:39:48 Speaker 1: I believe. So we really shodn't just

try and guess this no, because it might be unfair to people. Well, that's all right, but anyway, that's why you need to listen in because we can't remember him's teeth exactly right. Tickets to the showdown eight double two three double o double Oh is the number? John is the first score of three Morning John. We couldn't mate, all right, have a listen to this and see if you can tell us which showdown this moment came from. 01:40:16 Speaker 13: It was Biglands, he's been I reckon, he's been ticket. 01:40:22 Speaker 1: And there's the pub Dan. 01:40:24 Speaker 2: It looked at fair Pump. 01:40:25 Speaker 13: It's Dagle it did, so the Showdown could be about to explode. 01:40:30 Speaker 1: As far ticket claims a number. I remember that my Rtt Biglin's is a big, big man, but he got chopped in half by chopping picket. John, which showdown? 01:40:40 Speaker 8: Was it from Showdown fifteen? 01:40:45 Speaker 1: Sorry? John, Let's go to James in nord. Which showdown you think that was from? James? 01:40:49 Speaker 11: I'm pretty hopeful Showdown number nineteen? 01:40:52 Speaker 14: Boys, Absolutely right, Jane. 01:40:55 Speaker 21: Did you. 01:40:58 Speaker 1: Just remember that one? 01:40:59 Speaker 11: James, No, it's cold research. 01:41:03 Speaker 1: Well it was quick research. It was very quick and well done to you, James because your fast fingers of it. You two tickets to the showdown Showdown nineteen, so that one's going back some twenty years. So you said that was the semi final, Lucie, the dream Final. That might have been the only highlight out of it from sports perspective. 01:41:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, because the crow is one that convincingly didn't they That's right? Yeah, heyes, speaking of sport. Bit of breaking. At eight fifty six a year, the government's holding a press conference at ten fifteen on the future of the Adelaide Lightning. The Premier and Sports Minister Emily Burke. That is, the Premier is the Premier and the Sports Minister is Emily Burke. They're going to be fronting it. So hang on the premiers there, I reckon the Lightning had been saved. 01:41:49 Speaker 1: What do you think? 01:41:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the Premier has changed his diary so he can stand up to bring us the grim news no longer exist, So Emily burn could be doing that one on our own. 01:42:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that he's. 01:42:02 Speaker 2: There, Yeah, it's some sort of bailout announcement. You would have to think, well good, yeah, well, correct, correct, They're. 01:42:12 Speaker 1: A great franchise. I don't know what the WNBL are doing. Frankly, it seems like they don't want them to be involved. 01:42:16 Speaker 2: But I'm not across the detail. This is your Ballywick, not mine. Will but it's a huge participation sport basketball. 01:42:25 Speaker 1: It's massive, Yeah, and women's basketball is something we do exceptionally well, really good at it, and the Lightning have been terrific here in Adelaide for such a long period of time. 01:42:34 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:42:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be just to see what they've come up with, because yeah, as much as anything, it seemed to be about facilitating a change of ownership and the relationship between the franchise and the WNBL. So whether the money's changed hands or it's just the government's gotten involved in made some assurances, I'm not sure we'll find out. So that press conference is coming up shortly after we finish on there this morning, Quarter Passten. Well, as those developments come to hand, you will hear them here on five double A. We are pretty much out of time. Graham Goodings is going to take over in just a few minutes time. Thank you for your calls and texts. We didn't get to all the texts in the end, so many goblins, a lot pertaining to the pending Willy Rioli charges, which we expect we'll find out today. Rowing Timmy ge will have all that for you this afternoon. That's all from us. Got you tomorrow from six 01:43:21 Speaker 4: David Penberthy and Will Goodings six to line five Double A Breakfast