התמלול המלא של Ending Gangs in the Sheriff's Dept? The Board of Supervisors Are on It. The Sheriff Says He Is Too

Um, there's so much going on. That's why I'm laughing. 37 00:02:17.110 --> 00:02:20.539 But have you seen, um, have you seen the interview? 38 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:22.500 There's an interview going around. I think it might've been 39 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:27.560 channel five KTLA with the former mayor, mayor, uh, Karen Bass. 40 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:31.139 I felt, she sounds like she just won the Superbowl. 41 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:36.009 I'm like, wait, uh, you actually just lost an election. Um, 42 00:02:37.210 --> 00:02:40.289 you should, shouldn't you be sad crying into your beer? 43 00:02:40.370 --> 00:02:44.009 And she's kind of like, woohoo, I'm free. Can you 44 00:02:44.090 --> 00:02:47.759 play that, Miles? Do we have that? Yeah, in a second. 45 00:02:48.460 --> 00:02:52.759 I'm happy for her, not so happy for us. I 46 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:55.500 say that not because I think we're going to hell 47 00:02:55.539 --> 00:02:58.819 in a handbasket. I'm not that girl. I always think 48 00:02:59.810 --> 00:03:03.289 progress is possible. And I love that the city council 49 00:03:03.330 --> 00:03:07.830 made nice with the new mayor yesterday, even though none 50 00:03:07.949 --> 00:03:11.460 of them endorsed her, not a single one of them 51 00:03:12.030 --> 00:03:16.939 endorsed her. Hopefully they'll all play nice. You know, you 52 00:03:16.979 --> 00:03:20.500 do wonder about someone's ability to play nice in the 53 00:03:20.539 --> 00:03:24.080 sandbox when none of their colleagues endorses them. But it's 54 00:03:24.219 --> 00:03:29.229 also true that endorsing someone other than the sitting mayor 55 00:03:29.969 --> 00:03:33.789 could present a problem if the sitting mayor wins. So 56 00:03:35.030 --> 00:03:38.479 there's a lot to factor in there and I'm Glad 57 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:42.210 everybody made nice. Nithya Raman went before the city council. 58 00:03:42.250 --> 00:03:46.729 She's our mayor-elect. She said nice things. She said one 59 00:03:46.789 --> 00:03:51.250 nice thing about every council member, which was very good. 60 00:03:51.270 --> 00:03:54.509 I mean, I feel like it was a major olive branch. Okay, 61 00:03:54.569 --> 00:03:59.020 like let's let bygones be bygones and get to work 62 00:03:59.099 --> 00:04:01.139 for the city. That's what we want, right? We don't 63 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:07.280 want long, drawn-out infighting, which does sometimes happen after elections. 64 00:04:07.750 --> 00:04:09.729 And by sometimes, I mean a lot of the time. 65 00:04:10.930 --> 00:04:16.000 So yay, they all did kumbaya and held hands. And 66 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:17.980 that's a good thing. That's good for you. It's good 67 00:04:18.019 --> 00:04:21.300 for me. It's good for the city of Los Angeles. 68 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:25.360 And now let's see what they're going to do. What 69 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:31.470 they're going to do. So this was the mayor. She's 70 00:04:31.509 --> 00:04:34.149 still the mayor, I think, until December 14th when they 71 00:04:34.170 --> 00:04:38.029 swear in the new mayor. This is what she had 72 00:04:38.069 --> 00:04:43.420 to say about her. What is now a pretty commanding loss. 73 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:47.040 I mean, in the beginning it looked close, but now 74 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:55.180 it's like 54%. That's, that's, yeah, that's quite a shellacking. 75 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:58.740 As Barack Obama would say, let's listen to Mayor Karen Bass. 76 00:04:59.579 --> 00:05:03.699 Oh, I got a lot of ideas. The voters made 77 00:05:03.740 --> 00:05:10.279 a decision and democracy prevails. And I wish former councilwoman, 78 00:05:10.699 --> 00:05:14.120 soon to be mayor, Nithya Raman, the best of wishes. 79 00:05:14.819 --> 00:05:16.819 Because I have always. 80 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:20.490 Been and will continue to always be about the city 81 00:05:20.620 --> 00:05:23.490 of Los Angeles and what will help the city prosper. 82 00:05:24.129 --> 00:05:24.930 What's next for you? 83 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:26.360 What'd you say? 84 00:05:26.420 --> 00:05:27.360 What's the next chapter? 85 00:05:28.310 --> 00:05:31.470 Oh, I got a lot of ideas. 86 00:05:31.490 --> 00:05:32.449 Staying in politics? 87 00:05:33.829 --> 00:05:35.449 No. 88 00:05:35.550 --> 00:05:36.970 But, you know, I mean, listen. 89 00:05:37.689 --> 00:05:42.120 I have spent my entire life devoted to service, never 90 00:05:42.189 --> 00:05:46.120 thinking about what do I want to do personally. 91 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:47.980 That moment is here. 92 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:49.800 What did it mean to you to serve this city 93 00:05:49.860 --> 00:05:50.259 as mayor? 94 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:55.019 The greatest honor possible. The culmination of a life's work. 95 00:05:55.709 --> 00:05:57.170 It felt like full circle. 96 00:05:58.269 --> 00:06:03.470 She said no. You know, she actually said highly doubtful 97 00:06:03.529 --> 00:06:07.089 to another reporter. So I can see the mayor, you know, 98 00:06:07.149 --> 00:06:12.910 she was appointed to a cabinet secretary position or an ambassadorship. 99 00:06:12.990 --> 00:06:15.730 I can see her maybe doing that. But I love 100 00:06:15.769 --> 00:06:18.290 when she said, I never thought about what I personally 101 00:06:18.350 --> 00:06:20.790 wanted to do. And I think for a lot of activists, 102 00:06:20.810 --> 00:06:23.689 because that's how she started. She started as a community organizer. 103 00:06:24.300 --> 00:06:27.939 An activist, that's not the agenda. The agenda is how 104 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:33.269 do I best serve the city, the community organization, my 105 00:06:33.310 --> 00:06:39.410 constituency as an assemblywoman, as a congresswoman, as a mayor. 106 00:06:39.449 --> 00:06:44.389 So that little moment of that time has come was giving, 107 00:06:44.810 --> 00:06:48.939 for me, was giving, I'm going to Disneyland. And I'm 108 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:50.819 not mad at that. It was a rough election. I

109 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:54.600 also love the way that she passed the baton. Very classy, 110 00:06:54.639 --> 00:07:00.600 very graceful to Council Member Nithya Raman, who is the mayor-elect. 111 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.930 The other thing I do, I do think it's kind of, 112 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:08.120 it's hard for, I'm sure, for the mayor-elect and for 113 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:11.379 the mayor to make a switch that fast. But I 114 00:07:11.459 --> 00:07:14.120 think it's good for the city because we don't need 115 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:17.480 to drag this on and on and on. The new 116 00:07:17.550 --> 00:07:20.879 mayor gets sworn in in a little over a month. 117 00:07:21.290 --> 00:07:25.490 So it's a very fast transition. Not like, uh, not 118 00:07:25.509 --> 00:07:30.990 like the Congress where we have to wait till January. Um, yeah. 119 00:07:31.129 --> 00:07:33.730 So good for all of them for acting like grownups. 120 00:07:33.810 --> 00:07:38.500 I think the mayor is always, always seems to be 121 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.360 the most grownup one in the room. And I'm here 122 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.579 for that. By the way, happy Veterans Day and thank 123 00:07:44.620 --> 00:07:48.899 you for your service. It is actually Veterans Day. And, um, 124 00:07:49.500 --> 00:07:55.000 so thank you to all those who served and are serving. Well, 125 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:57.199 I guess you wouldn't still be serving if you were 126 00:07:57.220 --> 00:07:59.500 a veteran, but still, you'll be a veteran one day. 127 00:07:59.579 --> 00:08:03.019 Thank you for your service. It is a holiday for 128 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:07.540 a lot of folks. Not for us, obviously. Banks are 129 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:12.110 closed today, though. All the banks are closed. I mean, 130 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.930 you can use your ATM, of course, but you cannot 131 00:08:15.009 --> 00:08:20.680 go into the bank today. Post offices are closed. DMVs libraries, 132 00:08:20.779 --> 00:08:23.959 public schools, all of that closed. I envy you if 133 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.819 you're sleeping in today, but then you wouldn't be hearing me. 134 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.970 But happy Veterans Day. They do give you free entrance 135 00:08:32.090 --> 00:08:35.970 for national parks, as long as you're a citizen. So 136 00:08:36.009 --> 00:08:39.009 if you are near a national park, get outside if 137 00:08:39.029 --> 00:08:41.990 you got the day off. But it is the day 138 00:08:42.070 --> 00:08:47.509 that we pay tribute to our veterans. A lot of 139 00:08:47.580 --> 00:08:50.639 stores have sales too, you know. I don't know, I 140 00:08:50.659 --> 00:08:56.840 guess any excuse for a sale. But it is important 141 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:58.580 that we honor our veterans. 142 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:00.019 Question, Dominique. 143 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:01.120 Say what? 144 00:09:01.500 --> 00:09:03.740 Is Beach National Park, is that considered the same thing? 145 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.179 Like is beach parking free the same way as national parks? 146 00:09:06.379 --> 00:09:09.360 Some beaches are national parks. Most of our beaches are L.A. 147 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:09.759 County. 148 00:09:10.059 --> 00:09:10.299 Okay. 149 00:09:10.500 --> 00:09:14.019 So that, no, you'll still have to pay. I think 150 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:16.700 the parking meters, though, if you're by, you know, like, 151 00:09:17.389 --> 00:09:20.789 Santa Monica and Venice that have those really expensive parking meters. 152 00:09:20.809 --> 00:09:23.960 You have to pay 25 cents every five minutes. I 153 00:09:23.980 --> 00:09:29.759 think those are free today. But no, not those parks. 154 00:09:30.740 --> 00:09:34.639 I think there's some parks along our coastline way up 155 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:38.259 north that are national parks. You can look it up. 156 00:09:39.490 --> 00:09:43.330 You can duck, duck, go it. Stop saying Google it 157 00:09:43.429 --> 00:09:47.340 after yesterday. You can duck, duck, go it. They have, 158 00:09:48.100 --> 00:09:51.240 I'm putting air quotes around this, cleaned up the graffiti 159 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:57.730 towers in downtown L.A. See, this tells you how spin 160 00:09:57.789 --> 00:10:01.629 is such a big part of news. ABC7, their headline 161 00:10:01.700 --> 00:10:07.019 is infamous graffiti towers in downtown LA cleaned up. If 162 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:14.059 I was writing that headline, it would say famous LA 163 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:22.389 art installation blotted out By developers. See, that shows you 164 00:10:22.450 --> 00:10:26.909 how your perspective changes the headline. They say infamous graffiti 165 00:10:26.950 --> 00:10:34.080 towers cleaned up. I would say art installation, beautiful art 166 00:10:34.149 --> 00:10:39.700 installation blotted out by downtown developers. Well, whichever headline you 167 00:10:39.740 --> 00:10:44.100 subscribe to, they're covering that up. They are calling it 168 00:10:44.139 --> 00:10:46.379 an eyesore. It's funny to me, though, because I saw 169 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:49.019 so many tourists taking pictures in front of it. And 170 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:50.980 I was taking pictures in front of it, and I'm 171 00:10:51.059 --> 00:10:55.899 not a tourist. They are not all the way done, 172 00:10:55.919 --> 00:11:01.340 but it's mostly painted over. I hate it. I think 173 00:11:02.500 --> 00:11:05.519 the artists who did it did a beautiful thing, and 174 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.679 it's crazy to me that blocks away at a museum 175 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:10.610 there's something that looks just like it that people are 176 00:11:10.620 --> 00:11:14.990 paying money to go and see. But apparently a couple 177 00:11:15.029 --> 00:11:19.009 of development companies have teamed up to finish those towers. 178 00:11:20.409 --> 00:11:23.620 And after a Chinese company ran out of money partway 179 00:11:23.659 --> 00:11:31.039 through

building them, Now they made a deal through bankruptcy court. 180 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:34.679 A judge approved that sale, and they are supposed to 181 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:40.149 be completing these towers. It's going to cost about $ 850 182 00:11:39.710 --> 00:11:44.309 million to finish that. They claim it's more than halfway done, 183 00:11:45.269 --> 00:11:50.500 and it's going to have 504 apartments. a luxury hotel 184 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.639 and retail space. They say they're going to have all 185 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:59.240 the graffiti and the new exterior done before the Olympics 186 00:12:00.419 --> 00:12:05.409 and that people will be living in there by 2028. Ah, 187 00:12:05.450 --> 00:12:10.149 the disrespect of original artwork. 504 units, that's a lot 188 00:12:10.190 --> 00:12:13.889 of housing. But I was having a conversation with a 189 00:12:13.909 --> 00:12:15.769 friend the other day. I feel like all this housing 190 00:12:15.809 --> 00:12:18.289 or a lot of this housing is. 191 00:12:20.509 --> 00:12:23.769 Not for us, because nobody can afford it. It's amazing 192 00:12:23.889 --> 00:12:27.909 how many of these buildings are just sitting there. You 193 00:12:27.950 --> 00:12:30.350 look up and down Crenshaw, these new buildings, you see 194 00:12:30.529 --> 00:12:33.830 one or two apartments out of a whole huge building 195 00:12:34.169 --> 00:12:38.009 that look like someone's in there. The same with Inglewood. 196 00:12:39.250 --> 00:12:43.419 People cannot afford them. They're new, they're convenient, they're tiny, 197 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:47.799 they're expensive. And that's why I wish the city... would 198 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:51.000 buy these buildings, the city and the county would buy 199 00:12:51.059 --> 00:12:55.870 some of these buildings, and either do co-ops like they 200 00:12:55.899 --> 00:12:58.120 do in New York, where you let people buy them 201 00:12:58.309 --> 00:13:02.970 over time, like rent-to-own type scenario, for working-class and middle-class 202 00:13:03.009 --> 00:13:10.509 families at affordable rates, or rent them out. Not just, yes, okay, 203 00:13:11.149 --> 00:13:15.389 the unhoused, but also for people who are rent-burdened, you know? 204 00:13:16.470 --> 00:13:16.830 Because. 205 00:13:17.570 --> 00:13:19.809 If you work a minimum wage job or two or three, 206 00:13:19.850 --> 00:13:23.519 which is probably what you're doing to afford L.A., then 207 00:13:24.740 --> 00:13:29.700 you cannot afford to live in the city. And that 208 00:13:29.740 --> 00:13:31.460 needs to change. We have to be able to afford 209 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:33.519 to live where we work. We shouldn't have to drive long, 210 00:13:33.539 --> 00:13:37.750 long distances to go to a minimum wage or low 211 00:13:37.809 --> 00:13:43.309 wage job. And so that's why I say it's time 212 00:13:43.350 --> 00:13:45.809 for the city and the county. I'm not talking about projects. 213 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.039

Housing projects, no shade to the housing projects. I'm talking 214 00:13:50.059 --> 00:13:53.320 about social housing. You got something to say about any 215 00:13:53.360 --> 00:14:00.639 of these things? 800-920-1580. I'm Dominique DiPrima for Unapologetically Progressive KBLA. 216 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:05.090 Talk 1580. Right now you got star power and legal 217 00:14:05.129 --> 00:14:09.809 power in the studio. He is an R & B singer, writer, artist, 218 00:14:10.750 --> 00:14:15.649 and a civil rights attorney. And contributor to this show, 219 00:14:15.769 --> 00:14:18.409 Attorney Chris Martin. Good morning. 220 00:14:18.710 --> 00:14:19.629 Good morning. How's it going? 221 00:14:19.669 --> 00:14:22.190 Doc Martin, as you are known on social media. 222 00:14:22.389 --> 00:14:23.049 That's right. 223 00:14:23.870 --> 00:14:27.149 And I should say candidate because you ran for the 9th. 224 00:14:28.029 --> 00:14:32.840 And there was some shenanigans with the registrar voters where 225 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:36.019 they didn't put your name on the ballot. You ran 226 00:14:36.059 --> 00:14:37.879 for the 9th city council district. 227 00:14:38.220 --> 00:14:38.700 Absolutely. 228 00:14:38.740 --> 00:14:42.580 I was a pretty serious candidate, um, for, uh, city 229 00:14:42.620 --> 00:14:46.299 council in the ninth district. And honestly, uh, you know, 230 00:14:46.610 --> 00:14:49.649 media newspapers and, you know, things like that positioned me 231 00:14:49.889 --> 00:14:52.850 as potentially the last serious black candidate to ever like 232 00:14:52.970 --> 00:14:55.389 run for the district. You know, you can read the 233 00:14:55.429 --> 00:14:59.480 wave newspaper about, you know, that other, uh, newspaper sources, 234 00:15:00.100 --> 00:15:03.100 but yes, like you said, some shenanigans were in place to, 235 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:04.559 you know, keep me from being on the ballot. 236 00:15:04.620 --> 00:15:07.850 So, um, Even though you had a ton of signatures. 237 00:15:07.929 --> 00:15:12.070 I mean, which you're an activist. I've seen you many 238 00:15:12.110 --> 00:15:15.590 a time at protests and things with Black Lives Matter. 239 00:15:15.610 --> 00:15:17.169 You know how to organize people. You know how to 240 00:15:17.210 --> 00:15:20.250 get signatures. That's not even a question. So it's weird 241 00:15:20.289 --> 00:15:23.049 that I found it fishy, to be honest with you. 242 00:15:23.210 --> 00:15:23.610 Yeah. 243 00:15:23.629 --> 00:15:26.149 I mean, I turned in more signatures than virtually all 244 00:15:26.169 --> 00:15:28.879 of the candidates who ran. 245 00:15:28.649 --> 00:15:29.919 For the office. 246 00:15:31.700 --> 00:15:31.879 Well. 247 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:35.940 you ended up not endorsing either of the two candidates 248 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:37.080 for the ninth district. 249 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:38.100 Yeah. 250 00:15:38.259 --> 00:15:42.240 But they are, it's like Mississippi and South LA. They're

251 00:15:42.259 --> 00:15:43.159 still counting, right? 252 00:15:43.460 --> 00:15:43.990 I know. 253 00:15:44.610 --> 00:15:48.549 And it just goes to show you that every vote matters. 254 00:15:49.129 --> 00:15:52.929 Your vote counts, right? They're going to war right now 255 00:15:53.029 --> 00:15:57.929 over these last little 150 votes that separate Estuardo and 256 00:15:58.500 --> 00:16:02.809 Jose Ugarte. So it's just like, It's a slim, razor-thin 257 00:16:03.210 --> 00:16:03.909 margin area there. 258 00:16:04.769 --> 00:16:08.889 Yeah, I mean, that's 150 votes. It's crazy. That's actually 259 00:16:08.909 --> 00:16:11.799 even closer than Mississippi. Like, I think we have enough 260 00:16:11.860 --> 00:16:13.879 votes in our phone to sway the election. 261 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:14.820 Yeah. Oh, yeah. 262 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:16.639 You know, you could just call people. 263 00:16:16.820 --> 00:16:17.019 Yep. 264 00:16:18.340 --> 00:16:25.620 And so I guess they're going to keep, they're probably 265 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:26.450 going to recount. 266 00:16:27.899 --> 00:16:30.679 Yeah, I would imagine so. I mean, neither person is 267 00:16:30.700 --> 00:16:33.509 going to accept the loss like this close. You know, 268 00:16:33.529 --> 00:16:36.090 they're going to have to recount those things, I would imagine, 269 00:16:36.210 --> 00:16:38.330 regardless of who ends up winning the thing. 270 00:16:39.610 --> 00:16:42.389 Yeah, well, so it'll be a while. One, of course, 271 00:16:42.809 --> 00:16:49.899 is a former staffer to Curran Price, who is the 272 00:16:49.940 --> 00:16:53.500 current council member. And the other one is a member 273 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:58.769 of ACE, the Activist Organization Around Housing. Now, Garte is 274 00:16:58.850 --> 00:17:02.210 saying that Masariegos, who's the challenger, may have cheated. 275 00:17:04.430 --> 00:17:08.849 Yeah. I mean, they both, you know, it's an ugly race, right? 276 00:17:08.890 --> 00:17:12.819 I mean, both candidates are going to sling mud back 277 00:17:12.859 --> 00:17:13.970 and forth at each other. 278 00:17:14.180 --> 00:17:14.460 Really? 279 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:16.359 I mean, and that's just the way it is. 280 00:17:16.500 --> 00:17:18.180 Well, that's what we do, I guess. That's why it 281 00:17:18.220 --> 00:17:20.460 was so funny to me. I mean, I was happy, 282 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:22.140 but funny to watch the. 283 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:27.579 Folks in city council making nice with the new mayor yesterday. 284 00:17:27.619 --> 00:17:27.940 Right. 285 00:17:28.299 --> 00:17:31.039 They all said nice things to each other and they 286 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:33.500 all gave each other a gold star and hopefully they 287 00:17:33.539 --> 00:17:34.400 can keep it going. 288 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:35.039 Right. 289 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:35.319 Yeah. 290 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:35.819 Hopefully. 291 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:36.480 Yeah. 292 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.819 Hopefully they can keep it going and get some stuff done. 293 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:40.960 Do you think they will though? I don't know if 294 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:42.019 they'll be able to keep it going. 295 00:17:43.029 --> 00:17:45.130 I don't know either, but I hope for the city 296 00:17:45.150 --> 00:17:49.509 of LA, you know, that, um, that people can follow 297 00:17:49.549 --> 00:17:52.450 the advice of the mayor and their own advice. 298 00:17:52.630 --> 00:17:52.869 Right. 299 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:54.859 And get to work for the people of the city. 300 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:55.420 Yeah. 301 00:17:55.640 --> 00:18:00.950 I'm, you know, I'm, yeah, I'm reading about folks who 302 00:18:01.009 --> 00:18:04.609 are getting picked and appointed for that. And I'm going 303 00:18:04.650 --> 00:18:06.650 to just keep praying. 304 00:18:06.869 --> 00:18:07.289 Right. 305 00:18:07.329 --> 00:18:10.559 I'm going to just keep praying because I think as 306 00:18:10.619 --> 00:18:12.799 Jasmine Kenick said on this show, we got to wish 307 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:15.480 whoever you voted for, you got to wish the new 308 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:19.000 mayor success because that's the success of your city. 309 00:18:19.420 --> 00:18:19.700 Right. 310 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:24.920 And ultimately the success of, you know, Of all of us, right? 311 00:18:24.940 --> 00:18:27.660 If the mayor does a good job with the city, 312 00:18:27.700 --> 00:18:30.079 that benefits all of us. So, yeah, we've got to 313 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:32.440 root for her to do her thing. 314 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:38.039 So we'll start this and we'll complete it after news, traffic, 315 00:18:38.059 --> 00:18:42.359 and sports. Sheriff Luna won by a landslide. 316 00:18:42.380 --> 00:18:42.819 Yes, he did. 317 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:47.950 Praise God. I know that sounds weird, you know, as 318 00:18:48.029 --> 00:18:51.910 a sheriff, but the alternative was very problematic. 319 00:18:52.009 --> 00:18:52.210 Sure. 320 00:18:52.509 --> 00:19:00.150 So Sheriff Luna wins and immediately puts forth a stronger 321 00:19:00.890 --> 00:19:03.880 policy to eradicate gangs. He had a really weak sauce 322 00:19:03.980 --> 00:19:07.279 one that he did last term, and now he says 323 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:08.299 it's evolved. 324 00:19:08.660 --> 00:19:08.980 Right. 325 00:19:09.339 --> 00:19:10.299 That's what he says, huh? 326 00:19:10.579 --> 00:19:10.819 Yeah. 327 00:19:10.940 --> 00:19:11.619 What do you make of that? 328 00:19:13.700 --> 00:19:16.900 I think we have to be real about what's happening 329 00:19:17.849 --> 00:19:22.250 within the L.A. County Sheriff's Department. I think the department 330 00:19:22.289 --> 00:19:28.809 coming out and formally acknowledging and banning deputy gangs is 331 00:19:28.930 --> 00:19:33.670 a long overdue admission of what black and brown folks 332 00:19:35.390 --> 00:19:39.450 in these communities in South L.A. and throughout

L.A. County 333 00:19:39.470 --> 00:19:43.410 have known and lived through for decades. Because for years, 334 00:19:43.450 --> 00:19:47.559 their official stance was just to deny and minimize and 335 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:50.890 pretend that these deputy gangs and deputy cliques like the 336 00:19:50.930 --> 00:19:56.339 banditos or the executioners or the regulators didn't exist so 337 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:01.920 yes on paper this is you know a good step 338 00:20:01.980 --> 00:20:04.619 forward it's a small step forward but I can tell 339 00:20:04.740 --> 00:20:08.380 you Dominique that as a black attorney a black civil 340 00:20:08.420 --> 00:20:11.069 rights attorney who has sat in the room across the 341 00:20:11.150 --> 00:20:16.410 table taking depositions of these law enforcement officers under oath, 342 00:20:17.130 --> 00:20:20.009 I need our community to understand that there is a 343 00:20:20.089 --> 00:20:24.269 massive gap between a policy on paper and accountability in 344 00:20:24.309 --> 00:20:27.349 real life. Because, you know, for me, when I sit 345 00:20:27.390 --> 00:20:31.039 across the table from an officer at a deposition and I, 346 00:20:31.470 --> 00:20:34.730 you know, ask them at point blank range, you know, 347 00:20:34.789 --> 00:20:38.690 are you in a deputy gang? They're never going to 348 00:20:38.789 --> 00:20:39.569 actually admit that. 349 00:20:39.910 --> 00:20:40.109 Right. 350 00:20:40.390 --> 00:20:43.650 They're never going to say yes. They're going to give 351 00:20:43.690 --> 00:20:46.490 you a flat no. And the moment that you try 352 00:20:46.509 --> 00:20:49.910 to verify that by, you know, asking to see their 353 00:20:49.970 --> 00:20:53.640 tattoos on their legs or their arms or things like 354 00:20:53.740 --> 00:20:57.539 that or ask about any, you know, gang insignias. 355 00:20:58.180 --> 00:20:58.420 Right. 356 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:02.099 Their attorneys are going to object to that. 357 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:04.779 And the courts have protected them so far. And this 358 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:07.599 I don't understand because they don't protect gang members that way. 359 00:21:07.980 --> 00:21:10.700 Gang members, I mean, and they are gang members. If 360 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:13.019 you're just a street gang member and not a sheriff's 361 00:21:13.079 --> 00:21:15.119 gang member, you have to show your tattoos. 362 00:21:15.220 --> 00:21:16.160 Yes, yes. 363 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:20.180 So why do cops get special protections to be criminals? 364 00:21:20.259 --> 00:21:22.240 That seems so counterintuitive. 365 00:21:22.259 --> 00:21:24.180 Yeah, that's exactly what it is. 366 00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:27.900 They get special privacy protections that the average person doesn't have. 367 00:21:28.339 --> 00:21:30.960 To be a criminal, though, I mean, I get special 368 00:21:31.019 --> 00:21:34.170 privacy protection about where you live or something. But to 369 00:21:34.289 --> 00:21:36.210 show your gang tattoo? 370 00:21:36.650 --> 00:21:37.009 Yeah. 371 00:21:37.049 --> 00:21:38.150 Make it make sense. 372 00:21:38.329 --> 00:21:39.829 Make it make sense. It doesn't make sense. 373 00:21:39.849 --> 00:21:41.950 The only way to get into all of that is 374 00:21:42.029 --> 00:21:47.240 to go through expensive and time-consuming litigation, things called motions 375 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:51.640 to compel, calling the magistrate up, having these long and 376 00:21:51.700 --> 00:21:56.519 drawn-out hearings to finally get a motion granted to force 377 00:21:57.019 --> 00:22:01.740 or compel officer to then be able to show their tattoos. 378 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:03.119 That's crazy. 379 00:22:03.140 --> 00:22:04.920 That could take months and that's very expensive. 380 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:08.109 We've got news, traffic, and sports, then more on KBLA 381 00:22:08.140 --> 00:22:11.569 Talk 1580. Attorney Chris Martin is here. We were talking 382 00:22:11.630 --> 00:22:16.769 about the LA Sheriff's gangs, their new policy, and I 383 00:22:16.789 --> 00:22:19.990 guess what makes it stricter is that now it's not 384 00:22:20.109 --> 00:22:24.890 just specifically criminal gangs, but any unauthorized click, and it 385 00:22:24.930 --> 00:22:31.450 goes a little further in kind of holding people accountable. 386 00:22:32.289 --> 00:22:34.950 It has a stricter definition, right, of what a gang is. 387 00:22:35.410 --> 00:22:36.589 Right, right, right, yeah. 388 00:22:36.829 --> 00:22:39.529 I mean, and of course, if you're in a gang, 389 00:22:39.569 --> 00:22:42.740 they say that you can be fired or suspended or 390 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:47.559 some disciplinary action can be taken against you. But what 391 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:51.730 is the reality of... What's going to happen, right? That's 392 00:22:51.769 --> 00:22:55.410 what you got to think about. Perhaps nowadays, you know, 393 00:22:55.430 --> 00:22:58.450 they're not going to get these tattoos anymore, right? There's 394 00:22:58.470 --> 00:23:00.099 going to be different ways that they're going to be 395 00:23:00.140 --> 00:23:03.359 able to vet somebody to bring them into the gang. 396 00:23:03.380 --> 00:23:06.220 I think that the gangs will still exist. They'll just evolve. 397 00:23:06.380 --> 00:23:09.680 Yeah, they can have a, you know, a chain instead 398 00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:10.119 of a tattoo. 399 00:23:10.140 --> 00:23:10.420 Yeah. 400 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:12.880 I mean, but the thing about it is I found 401 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:16.089 it awfully convenient. So Sheriff Robert Luna comes out with 402 00:23:16.109 --> 00:23:18.329 this new policy, right? He says it has to go 403 00:23:18.369 --> 00:23:19.990 to meet and confer, which is when they go to 404 00:23:20.029 --> 00:23:23.910 the unions and decide whether the union can get on 405 00:23:23.950 --> 00:23:26.009 the same page with the new policy. That would be 406 00:23:26.049 -->

00:23:31.049 the A-Labs, which is the sheriff's union. The next day, 407 00:23:31.150 --> 00:23:33.430 the sheriff comes back and says, oh, we had meet 408 00:23:33.450 --> 00:23:36.599 and confer. Meet and confer can take months. I've never 409 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:39.440 heard of a one-day meet and confer. He's like, we 410 00:23:39.500 --> 00:23:42.769 all good. We clear my new policy. Ta-da! And then 411 00:23:42.910 --> 00:23:48.069 the next day, the L.A. County Board of Supervisors passes 412 00:23:48.089 --> 00:23:52.559 a motion to expose the deputy gangs. 413 00:23:52.819 --> 00:23:54.740 Right. So you think he was trying to get out 414 00:23:54.779 --> 00:23:56.839 in front of the Board of Supervisors. 415 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.980 I think they fast-tracked the heck out of that new 416 00:24:00.099 --> 00:24:01.619 shiny policy. Well, we don't see. 417 00:24:01.660 --> 00:24:03.059 We don't need you to investigate. 418 00:24:03.099 --> 00:24:07.799 We got this. We got this. Nevertheless, the board of supervisors, 419 00:24:07.900 --> 00:24:15.119 after delaying this motion by Supervisor Mitchell, has finally passed it. 420 00:24:15.140 --> 00:24:19.039 They waited until after the election, I guess. And, you know, 421 00:24:19.140 --> 00:24:21.339 that wasn't on Mitchell. That was the other supes that 422 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:26.940 delayed it. The motion directs the Sheriff's Department, County Council, 423 00:24:27.549 --> 00:24:30.630 and the L.A. County Sheriff's Civilian Oversight Commission and the 424 00:24:30.690 --> 00:24:33.950 Office of the Inspector General to to create a framework 425 00:24:34.009 --> 00:24:37.789 for identifying deputy gangs and secret groups in the department. 426 00:24:40.410 --> 00:24:40.759 Wow. 427 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:43.880 But ta-da, there's already a shiny new policy. 428 00:24:44.019 --> 00:24:44.380 Right. 429 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:47.000 So he gets to take the credit for, you know, 430 00:24:47.059 --> 00:24:48.880 hopping out in front of this and doing it before 431 00:24:48.900 --> 00:24:50.200 the Board of Supervisors does it. 432 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:55.880 Yeah. And what I hope is that this doesn't deter 433 00:24:55.940 --> 00:25:01.980 the investigation from being thorough. Because even if somehow... Magically, 434 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:09.549 this policy stopped future gang activity magically within the department. 435 00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:11.789 We still have to look at what's happened and how 436 00:25:11.849 --> 00:25:13.569 it's affected existing cases. 437 00:25:13.589 --> 00:25:13.970 Right. 438 00:25:14.710 --> 00:25:14.950 Right. 439 00:25:15.349 --> 00:25:15.950 Absolutely. 440 00:25:16.029 --> 00:25:18.710 Because that could end up overturning convictions and all kinds 441 00:25:18.769 --> 00:25:19.109 of things. 442 00:25:19.230 --> 00:25:21.309 It should. It should. 443 00:25:22.329 --> 00:25:25.630 But the reality is, will it? Not without a fight. 444 00:25:26.670 --> 00:25:29.960 Not without a fight. Nothing happens without a fight. Even 445 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:34.180 if they do violate these policies, nothing happens without a fight. 446 00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:37.819 It's still going to take them being sued. It's still 447 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.660 going to take them losing money for things to really, 448 00:25:41.700 --> 00:25:45.029 really continue to change in a progressive way. 449 00:25:47.109 --> 00:25:47.369 Yeah. 450 00:25:47.670 --> 00:25:50.809 Well, I mean, is that because of the culture of 451 00:25:51.430 --> 00:25:55.829 the law enforcement, of policing, or is it because of 452 00:25:55.869 --> 00:25:58.910 the county moving slow, or is it because... I mean, 453 00:25:59.009 --> 00:26:00.509 why does it take so long? 454 00:26:05.089 --> 00:26:06.029 That's a great question. 455 00:26:06.049 --> 00:26:07.950 Let me tell you something. If we had a gang 456 00:26:07.990 --> 00:26:10.509 at KBLA, they would be over here in 10 minutes. 457 00:26:10.549 --> 00:26:11.430 They'd be like that. 458 00:26:11.509 --> 00:26:11.589 Yeah. 459 00:26:11.609 --> 00:26:14.849 Let me see your ankles, arms, butt. Where's the tattoo? 460 00:26:14.890 --> 00:26:15.670 Where's the chain? 461 00:26:15.829 --> 00:26:16.589 All of that. 462 00:26:16.730 --> 00:26:16.970 Yeah. 463 00:26:17.029 --> 00:26:18.349 Now you're in a database. 464 00:26:19.009 --> 00:26:22.890 Right. Right. We're the bad sheriffs in a database, right? 465 00:26:22.990 --> 00:26:23.190 Yeah. 466 00:26:23.990 --> 00:26:27.410 They should all be put into a gang database. Yeah. 467 00:26:27.990 --> 00:26:29.730 Well, one of the things it does, it gives the 468 00:26:29.750 --> 00:26:34.279 Sheriff's Department 120 days to identify and publicly name all 469 00:26:35.339 --> 00:26:37.559 gangs in its ranks. 470 00:26:37.980 --> 00:26:38.200 Yeah. 471 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.200 So I kind of like that because it's almost now 472 00:26:41.259 --> 00:26:44.539 they've admitted that they exist and they're illegal. But now 473 00:26:44.579 --> 00:26:45.759 we want you to name them. 474 00:26:46.859 --> 00:26:47.259 Yeah. 475 00:26:47.380 --> 00:26:50.490 I mean, you know, there's already a few well-known ones. 476 00:26:50.690 --> 00:26:52.390 I think that they're just going to probably keep them 477 00:26:52.710 --> 00:26:55.329 at that. You know, the ones with those names are 478 00:26:55.349 --> 00:26:57.799 probably going to go by other names. you know, like 479 00:26:57.819 --> 00:27:01.759 the banditos or, you know, the executioners or regulators, they're 480 00:27:01.779 --> 00:27:06.519 going to call themselves something else, you know. And then 481 00:27:06.539 --> 00:27:10.420 they'll just continue to conduct business as usual and find 482 00:27:10.509 --> 00:27:13.200 out other ways to still be who they are. 483 00:27:14.569 --> 00:27:18.829 Well, okay. Yeah. Hopefully it'll make some difference. They are 484

00:27:18.910 --> 00:27:21.940 saying that they have to Make a list of all 485 00:27:21.980 --> 00:27:25.200 these cliques and gangs, even if they haven't been involved 486 00:27:25.259 --> 00:27:27.660 in criminal activity or they haven't been tied to it 487 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:29.839 because they may have been involved and no one knew. 488 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:30.440 Right. 489 00:27:31.099 --> 00:27:32.559 Right. Yeah. 490 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.500 I mean, you know, it is a step in the 491 00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:39.349 right direction ultimately, though, to have the policy on paper 492 00:27:39.589 --> 00:27:43.849 and to acknowledge that these gangs exist. I mean, that 493 00:27:43.890 --> 00:27:46.450 was so much of the struggle for the past couple 494 00:27:46.470 --> 00:27:49.049 of decades to even just get that much out of them. 495 00:27:49.509 --> 00:27:53.910 You know, so the fact that they have officially acknowledged that, 496 00:27:54.210 --> 00:27:56.710 you know what, that's a good thing. 497 00:27:57.509 --> 00:28:00.440 Yeah, I just think it's interesting that, you know, aside 498 00:28:00.460 --> 00:28:05.900 from the fact that he passed a weak policy before 499 00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:09.339 when he was sheriff, got criticized, then passed a stronger policy. 500 00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:09.440 Yeah. 501 00:28:10.140 --> 00:28:11.990 Was it yesterday or the day before? I think it 502 00:28:12.009 --> 00:28:14.490 was the day before yesterday. Then the supervisors come down 503 00:28:14.529 --> 00:28:19.349 with this. Yeah. And all of this has to happen 504 00:28:19.430 --> 00:28:21.890 after the election. I hope that means that this is 505 00:28:21.970 --> 00:28:22.990 not just theater. 506 00:28:23.809 --> 00:28:24.289 Right. 507 00:28:25.730 --> 00:28:26.049 Right. 508 00:28:26.250 --> 00:28:29.250 I mean, to me, it's given theater. You know, I'm 509 00:28:29.269 --> 00:28:32.109 not going to lie about it. Sheriffs violate policies all 510 00:28:32.130 --> 00:28:33.769 the time. The question is, what are you going to 511 00:28:33.789 --> 00:28:34.170 do about it? 512 00:28:34.630 --> 00:28:34.930 You know? 513 00:28:34.950 --> 00:28:40.119 Oh, God, check me, boo. That again. Helen Jones, you know, 514 00:28:40.700 --> 00:28:44.160 shout out to her. She testified, you know, she's the 515 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:49.190 mama of politics. Her child was killed inside the jails, 516 00:28:49.730 --> 00:28:52.099 the L.A. County Jail System. 517 00:28:52.339 --> 00:28:53.180 Yes. 518 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:56.279 Shout out, you know, all those organizations, including Black Lives Matter, 519 00:28:56.299 --> 00:28:59.119 Dignity and Power Now, and Justice L.A. that have been 520 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:01.819 pushing and pushing for this. 521 00:29:02.059 --> 00:29:02.359 Yes. 522 00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:06.430 I've interviewed Helen Jones a number of times. Her son 523 00:29:06.509 --> 00:29:11.089 was killed. John Horton was killed back in 2009, and 524 00:29:11.109 --> 00:29:13.230 she's been fighting this whole time. So that's got to 525 00:29:13.329 --> 00:29:14.730 feel like a big victory for her. 526 00:29:14.750 --> 00:29:14.950 Yes. 527 00:29:15.890 --> 00:29:19.690 That is a brave woman. And shout out to her. 528 00:29:20.430 --> 00:29:23.269 Yeah, shout out to her. I mean, talk about turning 529 00:29:23.309 --> 00:29:24.769 your pain into purpose. 530 00:29:25.309 --> 00:29:25.730 Yes. 531 00:29:26.509 --> 00:29:31.160 Oh, Lamika's on the phone. Is it Lamika Castillo? I 532 00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:33.859 think it is. I don't know a lot of Lamikas. 533 00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:37.619 Good morning. It is Lamika Castillo. Hello. 534 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:39.059 Good morning. 535 00:29:40.250 --> 00:29:42.450 I just have to jump in on this. First of all, hey, Chris. 536 00:29:42.490 --> 00:29:47.339 Y'all know Chris is my brother from another mother. We 537 00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.160 started the Reimagined Child Safety Coalition together, and he's been 538 00:29:50.180 --> 00:29:52.880 holding it down and keeping it strong. So I always 539 00:29:52.940 --> 00:29:55.839 love to hear from Chris and his brilliance. And, of course, Dominique, 540 00:29:55.859 --> 00:30:00.490 thank you for being the queen of Black radio. and 541 00:30:00.509 --> 00:30:03.950 for having these powerful conversations. I wanted to chime in 542 00:30:04.019 --> 00:30:08.480 and say that, you know, with these sheriff gangs, when 543 00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:13.880 we think about like gangs, street gangs, folks get, you know, 544 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.119 we see a lot of like immigrant folks who have 545 00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:18.000 joined gangs here in the U.S. and then they've been 546 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.819 exported to other places. And then we see gang violence 547 00:30:20.859 --> 00:30:25.059 increase in other countries, right? Especially in Latin America. And 548 00:30:25.099 --> 00:30:27.200 so I want to know, Chris, your thoughts on any 549 00:30:27.269 --> 00:30:30.269 policies like You know, we fought so hard for ban 550 00:30:30.289 --> 00:30:32.309 the box to make sure people who were incarcerated in 551 00:30:32.329 --> 00:30:34.880 our communities could get jobs. I want a box that 552 00:30:34.930 --> 00:30:38.619 sheriffs would have to check, right? If they, one, I 553 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:40.539 want them to not be able to be a sheriff 554 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:45.079 anymore if they're part of a gang. So this 120 555 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:47.440 days for them to, you know, name the gangs, not enough. 556 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.220 I need you to not just name the gangs. I 557 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:51.119 need everybody who is a part of a gang to 558 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.569 be out. And then once they leave, how do we 559 00:30:53.609 --> 00:30:56.009 make sure that they don't just get exported someplace else 560 00:30:56.329 --> 00:30:58.819 and

start spreading their gang activity online? you know, in 561 00:30:58.900 --> 00:31:01.819 other law enforcement agencies or in any job that they 562 00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.319 would take on, the same way that they've done to 563 00:31:04.380 --> 00:31:06.849 our people who have joined gangs for different reasons, for 564 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:10.009 protective reasons, for many folks, right? And then we see 565 00:31:10.029 --> 00:31:11.690 that they get, quote-unquote, exported to other places. 566 00:31:11.829 --> 00:31:13.710 So you want to send them all to El Salvador? 567 00:31:13.750 --> 00:31:20.269 Is that what you're saying? No. No, I see what 568 00:31:20.329 --> 00:31:21.130 you're saying. 569 00:31:21.210 --> 00:31:22.670 I'm not trying to be like Trump, but you know 570 00:31:22.690 --> 00:31:23.289 what I'm saying? 571 00:31:23.470 --> 00:31:24.730 I do. Yeah, go ahead, Chris. 572 00:31:24.769 --> 00:31:26.150 Yeah, I mean, the reality is. 573 00:31:27.339 --> 00:31:29.700 A lot of times when they get removed from one 574 00:31:29.940 --> 00:31:32.420 law enforcement agency, that is not the end of their career. 575 00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:33.859 I mean, they just move around, you know. 576 00:31:35.220 --> 00:31:38.359 And there should be something in place that says that 577 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:40.970 when you get fired for certain things, you know, you 578 00:31:40.990 --> 00:31:43.130 should not be able to just go to another law 579 00:31:43.150 --> 00:31:47.230 enforcement agency. You know, but that's the reality for the 580 00:31:47.269 --> 00:31:47.930 vast majority. 581 00:31:47.970 --> 00:31:51.029 I mean, but isn't that what Bradford's decertify the police, 582 00:31:51.250 --> 00:31:55.190 a decertification bill that Black Lives Matter pushed for? Isn't 583 00:31:55.230 --> 00:31:56.299 that what it's supposed to do? 584 00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:58.569 Yeah, that's what it's supposed to do. 585 00:31:58.609 --> 00:32:00.849 But that means somebody has to take the initiative to 586 00:32:00.910 --> 00:32:02.630 call for that cop's decertification. 587 00:32:02.670 --> 00:32:05.690 Yeah, absolutely. A brave politician. 588 00:32:05.769 --> 00:32:09.430 I mean, I should have mentioned that Helen Jones, Ms. Jones, 589 00:32:09.910 --> 00:32:13.009 that her son was killed by 3,000 boys, a gang, 590 00:32:13.109 --> 00:32:16.269 inside of the prison. So there is a direct line here. 591 00:32:17.230 --> 00:32:19.630 I don't know the answer to that. I mean, we 592 00:32:19.670 --> 00:32:25.359 do have the law enforcement decertification bill in California, which 593 00:32:25.420 --> 00:32:26.619 is supposed to stop that. 594 00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:27.059 Yeah. 595 00:32:27.730 --> 00:32:29.009 But who's tracking it? 596 00:32:29.309 --> 00:32:32.470 Right. Exactly. And, you know, my question always is, well, 597 00:32:32.539 --> 00:32:35.119 what does enforcement look like on the back end? And 598 00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.039 if they're going to be naming these gangs, I want 599 00:32:37.099 --> 00:32:38.859 the names of the individuals who are part of those 600 00:32:38.900 --> 00:32:41.059 gangs the same way they do with, you know, with 601 00:32:41.099 --> 00:32:41.920 our folks. 602 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.099 Gang database. Sheriff's gang database. Exactly. 603 00:32:45.500 --> 00:32:47.890 Sheriff's. I want all of it. I want all of it. 604 00:32:47.930 --> 00:32:50.509 Sheriff's gang database. De-certify them. They can't get a job 605 00:32:50.549 --> 00:32:55.170 anywhere else. Yeah. So... Anyway, it's great talking to y'all. 606 00:32:55.190 --> 00:32:57.609 Thanks for having this conversation. I appreciate the opportunity to 607 00:32:57.630 --> 00:32:58.170 chime in. 608 00:32:58.490 --> 00:32:59.349 See you tomorrow. 609 00:32:59.369 --> 00:33:01.069 Good to hear from you, Mika. 610 00:33:01.269 --> 00:33:04.420 Yeah, you know what? It's a good point. I mean, 611 00:33:04.819 --> 00:33:09.119 and now we're hearing that LAPD has at least one gay. 612 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.539 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 613 00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:12.619 You say, oh, yeah, like they have a lot of gays. 614 00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:13.650 They've been much better about hiding it. 615 00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:15.660 You know what I mean? They've been much better about 616 00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:19.049 hiding it for years and decades, rather. You know, the 617 00:33:19.089 --> 00:33:21.230 Sheriff's Department wanted to act like things were a myth, 618 00:33:21.289 --> 00:33:25.599 that these gangs were a myth. And LAPD was certainly 619 00:33:25.619 --> 00:33:28.599 doing the same. But yeah, these things exist. 620 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.140 So does the LA City Council need to pass a 621 00:33:31.180 --> 00:33:34.240 motion about investigating LAPD gangs? 622 00:33:34.539 --> 00:33:35.140 Absolutely. 623 00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:35.839 Will they? 624 00:33:36.380 --> 00:33:36.619 No. 625 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.869 Not at all? Not even with the progressive block that 626 00:33:39.890 --> 00:33:41.390 we now have on the council? 627 00:33:42.869 --> 00:33:44.650 I think it would take a lot. I think it 628 00:33:44.670 --> 00:33:45.230 would take a lot. 629 00:33:45.250 --> 00:33:45.930 I think you're right. 630 00:33:46.069 --> 00:33:46.269 Yeah. 631 00:33:46.670 --> 00:33:49.109 But we got a lot. Right. We do have a lot. 632 00:33:49.130 --> 00:33:49.690 We got a lot. 633 00:33:49.710 --> 00:33:50.450 We got a lot. 634 00:33:50.539 --> 00:33:53.769 We got a lot. Yeah, that's one of the topics 635 00:33:53.829 --> 00:33:56.069 of conversation. We can talk a little bit about that 636 00:33:56.089 --> 00:34:02.809 when we come forward. The Sheriff's Union, well, Association. Are 637 00:34:02.829 --> 00:34:11.340 they really unions? Sheriff's Cartel leader, Officer McBride, said before 638 00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:14.179 the victory of Nithya Raman that there would be

Armageddon 639 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.309 in L.A. If she won, she did win. 640 00:34:17.329 --> 00:34:17.480 She won. 641 00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:22.130 She is mayor-elect. What does that mean for LAPD? Will 642 00:34:22.170 --> 00:34:25.030 she really fire the chief as she promised and then 643 00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:30.010 unpromised and then promised? I'll get Attorney Chris Martin's take 644 00:34:30.050 --> 00:34:34.650 when we come forward on KBLA Talk 1580. Welcome back, indeed. 645 00:34:34.730 --> 00:34:38.460 Chris Martin is a civil rights attorney and an R 646 00:34:38.460 --> 00:34:40.500 & B singer. I don't know how you balance those, 647 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:42.400 but I don't know how I balance what I do either. 648 00:34:42.699 --> 00:34:43.000 Right. 649 00:34:43.579 --> 00:34:44.500 We do what we do. 650 00:34:45.019 --> 00:34:45.380 Exactly. 651 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.039 Will you run again? Do you think you'd ever run 652 00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:47.840 again for office? 653 00:34:48.619 --> 00:34:51.949 You know what? Never say never. 654 00:34:52.150 --> 00:35:00.329 Okay, that means yes. That means yes. Teeing up. The mayor-elect. 655 00:35:00.530 --> 00:35:06.010 She comes with a DSA endorsement. She comes with the 656 00:35:06.090 --> 00:35:07.860 endorsement of Dr. Malina Abdullah. 657 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:08.300 Yes, she does. 658 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:12.260 Even though Black Lives Matter grassroots doesn't endorse candidates, Dr. 659 00:35:12.340 --> 00:35:13.920 Abdullah did endorse her. 660 00:35:13.940 --> 00:35:14.610 Yes, she did. 661 00:35:14.820 --> 00:35:21.480 And she's the leader of Black Lives Matter grassroots. Pretty significant. 662 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:22.079 Very. 663 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:28.070 Considering that. Mayor elect Rahman is not black and not 664 00:35:28.110 --> 00:35:31.909 a member of BLM. Or white people for black, like, well, 665 00:35:32.170 --> 00:35:35.710 I don't know, get an Indian person. Anyway, the point 666 00:35:35.769 --> 00:35:39.679 is the cops are obviously the LAPD has having a 667 00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:45.800 little meltdown. The comment about Armageddon makes you wonder if 668 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.920 they're going to try to cause Armageddon to prove their point. 669 00:35:50.179 --> 00:35:54.579 Certainly the arrest of Skip Townsend raises questions around that. 670 00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:56.579 Yeah. 671 00:35:58.260 --> 00:35:59.719 Do you think things are really going to change? Do 672 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:03.800 you think that Mayor Rahman will fire the chief or 673 00:36:04.340 --> 00:36:08.059 significantly modify the police budget? 674 00:36:09.179 --> 00:36:11.440 I mean, it seemed like within a few days of 675 00:36:11.500 --> 00:36:15.469 her winning the election, she was already walking back. statements 676 00:36:15.510 --> 00:36:21.559 related to firing the police chief. So, you know, it 677 00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.539 would not surprise me if she doesn't actually, you know, 678 00:36:24.619 --> 00:36:25.840 follow through on that promise. 679 00:36:26.940 --> 00:36:31.800 Her really close friend is the controller, city controller, Kenneth Mejia, 680 00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:36.460 who did campaign for her like crazy. And Kenneth is 681 00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:40.570 someone who's very trusted and admired in progressive circles. 682 00:36:40.610 --> 00:36:40.739 Yeah. 683 00:36:41.699 --> 00:36:43.679 And he's pushed and pushed for more audits, which I 684 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.210 think is a great idea. Let's see where they're spending 685 00:36:46.269 --> 00:36:46.670 our money. 686 00:36:46.710 --> 00:36:48.090 Yeah, absolutely. 687 00:36:48.329 --> 00:36:50.690 I can't imagine, but I could be wrong, I can't 688 00:36:50.750 --> 00:36:55.389 imagine her backing away from the promises she made to 689 00:36:55.449 --> 00:37:01.050 the comptroller's office to fund and support full audits of 690 00:37:01.090 --> 00:37:02.289 the police department, though. 691 00:37:03.219 --> 00:37:04.340 I could see her doing that. 692 00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:08.659 I could see her following through on that promise. But 693 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:14.400 when it comes to removing the police chief, I think 694 00:37:14.420 --> 00:37:18.679 that there's a chance that that was just something to 695 00:37:20.059 --> 00:37:23.019 make her be different from Karen Bass, who had wholeheartedly 696 00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:27.610 supported the current police chief by the end of her term. 697 00:37:27.889 --> 00:37:31.170 Yeah, many of us were surprised she made that appointment. Yeah. 698 00:37:31.670 --> 00:37:35.090 Imada Tingerides, who is a black woman, would have been 699 00:37:35.110 --> 00:37:39.989 the first black chief, was vying for that position. Mayor 700 00:37:40.030 --> 00:37:45.570 Elect Roman. Remember Mona Tingerides? I'm just saying. A lot 701 00:37:45.590 --> 00:37:48.369 of people in the community wanted her because she has... 702 00:37:48.230 --> 00:37:50.030 Not just because she's a black woman, but because she 703 00:37:50.050 --> 00:37:52.199 has a portfolio of community policing. 704 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:52.480 Yeah. 705 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:56.719 Others supported Robert Arcos. Arcos would have been the first 706 00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:02.400 Latino chief. Also a big champion of community policing. 707 00:38:02.460 --> 00:38:02.780 Right. 708 00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:09.269 And she chose the old-fashioned... ICE collaborator. 709 00:38:09.510 --> 00:38:10.090 Yeah. 710 00:38:10.429 --> 00:38:13.110 Jim McDonald. He said yesterday that he wants to keep 711 00:38:13.150 --> 00:38:13.690 the job, though. 712 00:38:14.130 --> 00:38:14.530 Yeah. 713 00:38:14.889 --> 00:38:17.349 Yeah, I know. I mean, what can I say? 714 00:38:17.389 --> 00:38:20.630 When it comes to Karen Bass making that decision, unfortunately, she, 715 00:38:20.989 --> 00:38:24.340 you know, alienated a lot

of, you know, progressive folks 716 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:29.960 who really want to see major changes within the LAPD. 717 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.119 And I think that that is part of what ultimately 718 00:38:34.179 --> 00:38:35.960 caused her the election. 719 00:38:35.980 --> 00:38:36.949 Yeah. 720 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:44.489 Yeah. Yeah, I agree. So the question is, if Mayor-elect 721 00:38:44.570 --> 00:38:51.530 Rahman then does fully unleash the power of the considerable 722 00:38:52.550 --> 00:38:58.119 intellectual power of Kenneth Mejia to audit the LAPD, then 723 00:38:58.179 --> 00:39:01.599 their other fear, which even if she doesn't fire McDonald, 724 00:39:01.619 --> 00:39:03.900 which is what they're saying she's going to defund the police, 725 00:39:05.179 --> 00:39:09.860 which really just means shifting money around. to other city 726 00:39:10.050 --> 00:39:15.949 programs you think you see that that happening um because 727 00:39:15.969 --> 00:39:18.530 that was one of the major critiques of mayor bass 728 00:39:18.550 --> 00:39:22.050 is that she gave too much money to lapd she gave. 729 00:39:21.969 --> 00:39:24.940 Them everything they wanted pretty much right yeah By the 730 00:39:24.980 --> 00:39:25.340 end of it. 731 00:39:25.579 --> 00:39:26.179 Right. 732 00:39:27.019 --> 00:39:31.469 And she was trying to really just get that endorsement. 733 00:39:31.710 --> 00:39:34.130 So if folks voted for change, is that change really 734 00:39:34.150 --> 00:39:34.690 going to happen? 735 00:39:36.210 --> 00:39:36.730 I mean, I. 736 00:39:38.809 --> 00:39:41.050 Think it's going to be difficult, you know, just because 737 00:39:41.179 --> 00:39:44.980 they promised to do something related to, you know, the 738 00:39:45.019 --> 00:39:47.530 policing issue. I don't know if they're going to really 739 00:39:47.570 --> 00:39:49.630 follow through on that. You know, I have my doubts 740 00:39:49.670 --> 00:39:51.909 about Nithya Raman doing that, honestly. 741 00:39:51.949 --> 00:39:54.550 I mean, it seems like there would be support for 742 00:39:54.570 --> 00:39:57.630 it in the council. Well, some parts of the council. 743 00:39:57.670 --> 00:39:58.630 In some parts of the council. 744 00:39:58.650 --> 00:40:02.019 And to some degree, that will also be affected by 745 00:40:02.059 --> 00:40:03.300 who wins CD9, right? 746 00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:07.880 CD9, yes, because they both have slightly differing views on 747 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:09.500 law enforcement. 748 00:40:09.539 --> 00:40:13.530 Yeah, Ugarte's much more pro-LAPD. Masadiegos is much more of a... 749 00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:17.769 you know, rewrite their budget type guy. Right now there's 750 00:40:17.769 --> 00:40:19.449 150 votes between the two of them. 751 00:40:19.610 --> 00:40:19.829 Yeah. 752 00:40:20.170 --> 00:40:23.050 So that'll make a huge difference as to the future 753 00:40:23.070 --> 00:40:25.349 of law enforcement in L.A. 754 00:40:27.449 --> 00:40:29.469 I know no one talks about this, but I really 755 00:40:29.570 --> 00:40:32.190 think that we need to find a different security detail 756 00:40:32.250 --> 00:40:34.190 for the mayor of the city. To me, it's a 757 00:40:34.230 --> 00:40:38.510 conflict of interest, especially since the police association is allowed 758 00:40:38.550 --> 00:40:41.690 to contribute to mayoral candidates. So we know they prefer. 759 00:40:41.889 --> 00:40:42.250 Yeah. 760 00:40:42.369 --> 00:40:43.969 And now they're your bodyguards. 761 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:44.530 Right. 762 00:40:45.329 --> 00:40:47.630 I said the Nation of Islam. I was only half joking. 763 00:40:47.650 --> 00:40:51.510 But could we get some celebrity bodyguards? Or could we 764 00:40:51.550 --> 00:40:54.469 even get a different police agency from another state? 765 00:40:55.150 --> 00:40:56.170 Yeah, yeah. 766 00:40:56.349 --> 00:40:59.190 I mean, I would not object to some type of 767 00:40:59.630 --> 00:41:02.869 privatized security force to defend the mayor. 768 00:41:03.550 --> 00:41:05.550 I would say the feds, but not right now. 769 00:41:05.570 --> 00:41:06.260 Or something. 770 00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:07.360 Something. 771 00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:09.420 I mean, there's got to be something because at the 772 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.340 end of the day, it would be all too easy 773 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.920 for the police to say, You know, you need to 774 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:19.389 support us or else, you know, these little scandals that 775 00:41:19.409 --> 00:41:21.210 we happen to know about what's going on in your home, 776 00:41:21.230 --> 00:41:22.230 they're going to come out, you know? 777 00:41:23.929 --> 00:41:24.590 Exactly. 778 00:41:24.610 --> 00:41:26.090 That's all too real. 779 00:41:26.909 --> 00:41:32.010 As they have under certain mayors. But that's another conversation. 780 00:41:31.469 --> 00:41:32.369 For another day. 781 00:41:32.409 --> 00:41:37.469 That's another conversation for another day. So, Chris, tell us 782 00:41:37.489 --> 00:41:40.300 how to find you so we can figure out whether 783 00:41:40.340 --> 00:41:42.159 you're going to run again or whether you're going to 784 00:41:42.219 --> 00:41:43.840 sing it when you're going to sing again. 785 00:41:44.019 --> 00:41:44.840 Absolutely. 786 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.360 Um, so you can follow me on Instagram at doc 787 00:41:49.860 --> 00:41:55.000 underscore Martin 88. So D O C underscore M A 788 00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:59.110 R T I N eight, eight. That's my IG. You 789 00:41:59.130 --> 00:42:01.510 can search me on, on Facebook. You know, you pull 790 00:42:01.550 --> 00:42:03.789 up the name, Chris Martin, it'll come up. 791 00:42:03.829 --> 00:42:04.369 You'll find me. 792 00:42:05.050 --> 00:42:08.650 Yes. And, um, I should, I should say, I said, 793 00:42:08.670 --> 00:42:10.110 whether you're going to run again, whether you're going to 794 00:42:10.179 --> 00:42:12.000 sing again, but I should have also said, if you 795 00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:15.809 need a lawyer, you, you, I mean, you are accepting 796 00:42:15.869 --> 00:42:16.610 some clients, right? 797 00:42:16.750 --> 00:42:19.030 I accept some clients. You know what I mean? 798 00:42:19.090 --> 00:42:19.750 Busy man. 799 00:42:20.010 --> 00:42:21.929 I'm a busy man. I'm a busy man. But I 800 00:42:21.949 --> 00:42:25.420 make time for the things that are important. So, you know, 801 00:42:25.460 --> 00:42:27.380 you can always, you know, feel free to reach out 802 00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:33.639 to me related to that. My email is cdmartinlaw at gmail.com 803 00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:35.920 if you, you know, have some legal issues that. 804 00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:36.699 You want to talk about. 805 00:42:36.980 --> 00:42:38.239 Mostly civil rights, right? 806 00:42:38.380 --> 00:42:39.400 Civil rights. That's right. 807 00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:43.340 Well, thank you for coming in. It's great to see you. 808 00:42:43.539 --> 00:42:46.619 And I am really looking forward to seeing how those 809 00:42:46.659 --> 00:42:50.909 little 150-something votes turn out in CD9. 810 00:42:51.010 --> 00:42:51.610 Absolutely. 811 00:42:51.889 --> 00:42:53.909 Man, I think they needed your endorsement, Chris. 812 00:42:55.409 --> 00:42:56.190 They asked for it. 813 00:42:56.329 --> 00:43:00.250 I think they needed it. All right. We've got news, traffic, 814 00:43:00.309 --> 00:43:03.650 and sports, and it's time for Wealth Building Wednesday. Only here.