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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy Football Podcast. It is me Joey P joe Pisapia, and it's that time. That's right, we are kicking things off. It's draft season, baby, It's mock draft season. This is the first twenty twenty four redraft mock draft right here for your eyes and ears over on the YouTube channel. Make sure you subscribe to Fantasy Pros YouTube right now. Draft your comments below. We want to hear from you most of the time. I think I want to hear from you, but no, seriously, I want to hear from you all the time. I love all you guys and gals out there who can't get enough fantasy football. If you're watching mock drafts in May, you're my kind of degenerate and I'm very proud of you. Already. Now, we are going to do a full PPR twelve team mock draft today with some of our listeners and some of our friends here over a Fantasy Pros. So if you haven't already run your mock draft now at the time, download the Draft Wizard or go do fantasybros dot Com slash draft Wizard start your mock draft process today, because well it's never too early to get a and so the board, whether doing best Ball or just getting prepared for your August September drafts, it's a perfect time to begin. The time is now, and before we get going. I just saw this on social media. It looks like Red Lobster is closing fifty locations. I guess the endless shrimp promotion that they started doing was too much and it put a burden on the restaurant, And now they're closing fifty locations, which brings me to the point, Derek Brown, where were you last night?
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Speaker 2: I was gonna set up a joke for you about where are you're gonna get lunch from now on? But now it's ruined?
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Speaker 3: Okay?
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Speaker 2: Well I was trying to close down one of them. I mean, come on, all there, you can eat shrimp. Who could turn that down?
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Speaker 1: Man?
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Speaker 2: Come on, give me a break here.
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Speaker 1: Nothing like a cheddar Bay biscuit and a bunch of shrimp. That's all Debro needs for all his Best Ball drafts. But ahead of everything, Andrew Ericsson, what's your flare restaurant of choice? Actually, let me give you a choice. You got Applebee's, you got chili. Where are we going to dinner? And yes, there's a right answer.
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Speaker 4: Oh it's chilies, yes, yes, question, yes, yes, well Margarite eighth grade, I was an eighth grade Me and my friend got kicked out of an Applebee's so and we were told to never come back.
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Speaker 3: So Chili's has always been spot.
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Speaker 1: There you go, kids get kicked out Applebee's, just like Ricky Bobby's family. So good and joining us today a special guest here from our Fantasy Pros and Betting Pros family, John Supplewitz aka Soupy. You can follow him on exit. I'm that Soupy s up I by the way, So Johnny boy, it's great to have here on the show, first time as a guest. Welcome a board end. What is your flare restaurant or chain
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restaurant of choice?
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Speaker 5: Soupy, Well, it is that easy because it is Chili's. That is something that me and my wife, you know, you know, the big question is where are we going to dinner? And you know the wife is, oh, she's always has the answer right away. For us, the default answer is always chili.
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Speaker 1: Well, I know your wife won't be listening to this show, so it won't get you in trouble. She hears enough of you all day. All right, we've got twelve teams for you, full PPR, three wide outs, one flex. We've got some great folks joining us today. Here. We've got Cheetahs, We've got Casessa. We've got VVR, one of the guys who always wins these mocks. So we'll see if he's already in pole position for twenty twenty four. We've got raj Jay thirteen, Powerfold Daydreaming, we got not We've got the Scranton Man. We've got I'm that soupy. That's you John So, We've got Derek Brown myself? And was this thirty years young for Andrew Rickson? Is is this officially the thirty?
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Speaker 5: Now?
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Speaker 1: Is that where we are?
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Speaker 3: Ooh no, I'm just getting I'm just getting ready for it.
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Speaker 1: Just preparing. All right, Well, let's stop preparing and let's start here. I'm in the one spot. Let's kick this draft off here. It's just easier for me to be in the one spot. Plus, I'm gonna take the Christian McCaffrey this year. Finally, maybe will I ever do it? We shall see. We've got at the one four thirty years Young, Andrew Erickson, Deebro at the one eight, and then at the turn mister Supplewitz is gonna be there. So it should be a very fun draft here. So the question now is do I put myself out there in the lamb like I always do, and you know, go ahead and take a wide receiver because that's what I like to do, or do I take the running back? De Bro, What do you think I'm gonna do with this one one overall pick?
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Speaker 2: You're going chase or lamb? I know it. I don't need the build up. I know exactly what you're gonna do. He's vive passing. It's gonna start it off that way. Go ahead, Joey, go ahead.
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Speaker 1: Well, if we're gonna do twenty twenty four, right, we've got to start off the right way, which is me taking a wide receiver and saying screw him running backs, let's go. So here we go, Ceeedee Lamb one one off the ward Cheatah is up next, so ericson. I know you've been in the Best Ball Street, so you've been on this board a little bit. I just updated my rankings yesterday, and I know you guys have been updating your rankings to a fantasypros dot com you can check those out obviously. So at one O four you kind of have a great position here ericson because you're guaranteed Jefferson, Chase or Hill, and of course you know that is a hell of a way to start your draft.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I picked one of four because I don't necessarily abide by the top three guys in consensus ADP, so whether that's McCaffrey, Ceedee Lamb, and Tyree Hill. So I'd rather have someone else take those guys in front of me, and then I don't feel bad. He's like, oh, i'd have a chance to take them, so it's not my fault that I didn't draft them. So one O four I can get my one oh one.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 3: So that's when I that was my plan.
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Speaker 1: Way to not take responsibility in May. Wow. This is this is all a new record for you. Art McCaffrey is off the board at one O two, one oh three, we're waiting for that selection here. I think it's a really good spot to me, Debro. This is a year where I'm really happy being in the middle of the first round because I'm gonna basically be a lock for Aman Ross, Aint Brown or aj Brown or any of the players a wide receiver named Brown. I feel like, yeah, I.
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Speaker 2: Think the middle of the first round is kind of pick your flavor. Do you go with one of the running backs, do you go Breeze to go Bijeon? Do you take one of the top ride receivers that could finish wide receiver all one overall? Because there are guys that fall into that tiers. So I think, really it's just Joey. It's kind of a choose your own adventure.
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Speaker 1: All right. So the adventurer starts like this, Ceedee Lamb at the one oh one, Christian McCaffrey at one zero two, Tyreek Kill at one oh three. That's to you, Andrew Erickson, and you took Jamar Chase. Now, we just did a betting pro show last week where you and I were lusting after the Bengals and the numbers on them because a healthy Joe Burrow means good things for the Bengals potentially, not to mention the schedule maybe being a little more favorable than this year. So how do you feel about getting chased? Did you want Chase or Hill when it came down to.
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Speaker 4: It, I want to Chase because I'm trying to draft the best team for twenty twenty four. When you look at the top three guys across the board, Tyree Kill, Christian McCaffrey, and Ceedee Lamb, those are the best hits from the first round last year, and that's why they're going in order one, two, three. So I'm not trying to copy and paste what happened last year. I'm trying to project forward. And last year I felt really good about Chase. Joe Burrow went down. It didn't work out, but I still really good about Chase. With a healthy Joe Burrow, that he can be the NFL and right zone targets. And when you look at who has been the wide receiver one the last couple of years, it's been the guy who's led the NFL in red zone targets last year with Ceedee Lamb, you know Cooper Cups year it was Cooper Cup. So I think it's gonna be Chase that leads the NFL and redzon targets. That's gonna make him the wide receiver one for me.
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Speaker 1: Just like Kenny Powers. That's you. I'm not trying to be the best at exercising Ericson is not trying to draft the best team for twenty twenty three. All right, let's go to Divvy R who selected Justin Jefferson. I'm on Rose and Brown right there, and then Breie Hall off the board at one o
seven, debro, you went running back salty. Let's go maybe saltier than the applebe's that you know, supple it's just had before coming on here. So let's talk about this pick here. This is our boy, Bjon Robinson. How do you feel at one oh eight?
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Speaker 2: Feeling good? Man? I mean, I think you can try to make the case for him as early as like one o five, one oh four. I'm looking at those top wide receivers and if you want to go running back a wide receiver. But Bijon, look, he's gone, man, we should all celebrate.
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Speaker 3: Let's have a party. It's done.
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Speaker 2: The red shirtless to the streets man, Arthur Smith is gone. Bijon Robinson will be one and I get I get it. I know everybody's Priora Toy seen it. It's hit the timeline. B John's dealing with an ankle issue right now.
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Speaker 1: We are so far away from the season that doesn't matter. So I'm still draft to Bjon, Yeah, I look, it's it's May. We should be worried about ankle injuries or twists or things like that. Day dream and selects aj Brown next. All right, soupmaster, what are you looking for here? At the turn? You've got a J. Brown off the board? Garrett Wilson off the board at one ten, So one pick to you? What do you have looking at here?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 5: I got a couple of things on my mind. I think in this situation, you're looking at a lot of running backs available. I want a running back that's gonna get get in a lot of carries. I am a little interested in seeing what Saquon Barkley is gonna do in this Philadelphia offense. Are they gonna give him a heavy amount of carries? Is he gonna split with anything? Or are they gonna go again? You know with Jalen Hurts, he is gonna take a lot of carries away from uh Saquon, especially in the red zone. Is that gonna hurt him? But again, he has that past catching ability, So for me, he would be a safe bet to put on especially I think in this offense that can move the ball very fast.
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Speaker 1: What's so amazing debro. Poka Nakua undrafted last year, the one eleven pick, the Puka juice my friend tastes delicious in twenty twenty four, When you're trying to evaluate Pooka Nakua, I'll let Suppy make his picks here, deebro. When you're trying to evaluate Puka in twenty twenty four, though expectations are hope at least the Cooper Cup is going to be healthier and in a good position to contribute. But again, it's another year into the career for him. Do you think the one eleven is the right price for Pooka? Do you think he is truly a one to one pick, especially with Cooper Cup still there and Karen Williams being so good last year in this offense, I do.
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Speaker 2: I've got Pooka right now as my ninth overall player, and we want to bet on second year wide receivers, right, Joey, Well, why don't we just make a bet on a guy that already broke out and was massive and awesome in his rookie season and saying, hey, guess what what if that divide lengthen's even further because when him and up we're on the field. Last year, Puka was the wide receiver twelve and fantasy points per game. What if Coup another year older, Puka going into his second season, what if that top twelve becomes top five? And that's the bet you're making that he can get to that level, and I'm not gonna bet against it.
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Speaker 1: I would neither. I love the start here for the supman here. So, John, you selected Sequon Barkley and Marvin Harrison junior. Arvin Harrison is gonna get all the targets Sekwon Barkley all the carries here. So a unique situation where Barkley finally has the best offensive line he's played with probably ever, let's just say what it is. And Harrison, although again he's a rookie, he stands to get one hundred plus targets easily in this offense. So talk to me about these two selections and how you feel about the start of this team.
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Speaker 5: So, like you said, Sikuon Barkley has not had a offensive line pretty much his entire career. I'm a Giants fan. I already know the paint. And again, this is an offense that can move very fast. There's a lot of options too, and he's gonna definitely Jalen Hurts is gonna take away some runs from Saquon, but you give him the ball in the open space, Saquon can make some moves. I think he's gonna be a very potent part of this offense. And like you said about Marva Harrison Junior taking I'm not a big fan of taking rookies this early in the Jeff because you never know what's gonna happen. But to me, this is one of the This is one of the best receivers that Kyle Murray has had in a very long time, in the last couple of years especially, and I think it's gonna be between him and Trey McBride dividing targets, but he needs that guy that can just push the ball downfield. And like you said, he's definitely gonna get over over one hundred receptions this year.
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Speaker 1: I love it. I think it's a great start, and I agree. I think over one hundred receptions is absolutely and as Derek Brown likes to say, the range of outcomes, but I love this start. I'm with you, one hundred percent. Looks exactly like what I would have done down there. Jamiir Gibs A two ZHO two, then Jonathan Taylor two to three, So three running backs in the last four picks. Right there. Davante Adams goes at two oh four to day dreaming, and that brings up Derek brown Is, Chris o'lave, indeed your dream of a pick here, debro his.
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Speaker 2: I felt like I needed to get a wide receiver at this spot. A lot of guys I like that kind of debated between Brandon Ayuk Drake Lunnon going full bore into the Atlanta Falcons offense. But eh, I'm kind of hedging here. I'm gonna go with a Lave And the difference between him and Ayuk is just comes down to target volume. Adding another talented wide receiver to the forty nine ers equation. What's that gonna do? I you performed amazing last year, and this is not so much an anti Ayuk take, But when you're getting into those rounds and you're
looking at all these wide receivers and you're splitting hairs, Chris A lave, I just look at okay. Can dear Car be any better if he sucks? Can Spencer Rattler be better than he is? And Chris Alave. We know, look at the composition of that offense he is going to eat this year as far as target volume. So I'm just betting on the high end part of the target volume. If he could reach that, he pays off.
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Speaker 1: Here. I gotta tell you, I'm shocking you didn't take Drake London.
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Speaker 2: I thought about it, like I thought about it.
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Speaker 1: But as I am that you didn't do that, I think this is gonna be a one off. I think this is you kind of like shaking the dust off before we get these with the real Derek Brown. Please stand up for the love of God, please all right? I would have gone London, I'll say that. Yeah, all right, So Chris Olave goes. Then Brandon Auko's next, Michael Pittman at two oh seven. Great value there. Drake London off the board at two oh eight. So that's one, two, three, four, five wide receivers in a row. But that streak is broken by young Andrew Rickson thirty years young, with Travis Ahgin at two oh nine. Let's talk about the selection here, Chase then e TM, how you feeling about how this is going for you so far?
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Speaker 4: Ericson, Well, I was looking at some of the wide receivers, but then my my cue got basically nuked because of all the guys all the receiver run you were talking about. So for me, I think that there's a tear drop after Travis Etn at running back, like he's one of the few running backs I feel like I can put in my RB one slot and feel confident about his production came a week out. I know that the second half of last year wasn't exactly what happened in the first half when he was a top three running back and fantasy points scored. But the Jaguars basically entirely collapsed, like the entire OFFENSEI class, Trevor Lawrence was hurt, Chritian Kirk was hurt, the offensive line was injured. So I'm gonna believe in Etn. They picked up their fifth year option on Etn, which not every running back has. Najie Harris's, for example, didn't get picked up, So I think there's confidence in Etn, and I just I'm not afraid of other running backs in that backfield taking touches away from Etim. We did the Tank Bigsby experiment last year, Like he's the same guy, so I think ETN is going to dominate the touches in a productive offense. I think bounces back in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 1: All right, Josh Allen goes off the board at two ten and DJ Moore to eleven. I went with my safe guy here in Mike Evans at twelve. Mike Evans last year a strong season. I know, I know he's getting up there in age, but my goodness, still, you know, almost eighty catches last year, thirteen touchdowns. He's the touchdown maker there. And Baker Mayfield has been kind of the that we were hoping he would become all of a sudden, I don't know, half a dozen teams later, he finally figured it out. It's
a beautiful thing. I kind of got stuck here with the running back spot because I did feel like I wanted to grab one. It was between Derrick Henry and Karen Williams, but because it was full point PPR, I'm gonna give it a shot with Kyen Williams would be catchings the palls because Derrick Henry's not the biggest receiver necessarily, not that Kyen's you know, crazy in that department either. He's had forty eight targets last year. But again, I really think that there's an opportunity here for this RAMS team to be very pesky if they can stay healthy. And I know that's a huge if Sam Laporta was also My radar was going back and forth on that, but I want to grab a running back. Laporta does go at three zero two, followed by Kelsey. So there you go, the two big tight ends off the board. Ericson, do you think that's correct Laporta over Kelsey this year or you think that maybe we're putting the car before the horse and Travis Kelsey ain't done yet.
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Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's incorrect. I just feel bad for la Porta because he's so expensive, and I just don't think it's just hard for tight ends to pay off this price tag, like unless he is Travis Kelcey. So again I don't think that's wrong. Tho, the port is the tight end one. I just think that being the tight end one is not a good return on your investment.
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Speaker 1: There you have it all right. You selected Jalen Waddle three h four seems like a little bit of a value considering where we were ranking him last year. I understand injuries kind of derailed him a bit last season. Still seventy two receptions, only four touchdowns. That was a little disappointing. How you feel about getting Wattle here in the third round seems pretty good to me?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the Dolphins are an offense you want pieces of very explosive, and they put their position, They put their players in position for success. And as you know how waddle struggle last year is really more injury related, Like he still had a career high in PFF receiving grade in yards per route run, so he was still uber efficient like what we see from most Dolphins players. So Tyree Kell takes any step back, you know as he enters age thirty, just like me. You know, I think Tyreek kill or excuse I think Jalen Wattle could could make some noise. So should we get rid of you when you touchdowns? Remember this, Derek, I'm hoping.
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Speaker 3: I'm hoping they hoping Blaine doesn't and I hope they don't.
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Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll gonna make it run a four.
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Speaker 2: Make you feel good. We haven't put out the pastory yet, so.
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Speaker 1: You gotta go yet. That never mean, because no one knows how old I really am Dereck Henry three oh five, Jalen Hurts at three oh six, Nico Collins at three oh seven. Great selection there. I also almost was considering him. Devanta Smith goes to Debro at three oh eight. Deebro, Let's talk about the selection. So, Bijeon Olave DeVonta Smith, you feel good about this grouping so far to.
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Speaker 2: Start feel good about it? I mean, looking at the Philadelphia Eagles offense last year, what else could have gone wrong for them? Brian Johnson was a terrible OC. They bring in Kellen Moore, can that help ignite this offense? And we know it's going to run through aj Brown to the Banta Smith and right now, really it's a max mix of ceiling and floor. We've seen him be the wide receiver fourteen and the wide receiver twenty over the last two years. So I'm getting wide receiver to production. And if Kellen Moore can reignite this offense to be like what it was the previous season, maybe Smithy is top fifteen, close to top twelve yet again.
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Speaker 1: All right after DeVonta Smith. Then Deebo Samuel goes off the board. Some question marks whether or not he's gonna be a forty nine er. When we turned into June, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Will qb Ron and then Suppy mister Superwitz, you are up here with back to back picks again and again running back in wide receiver. Let's talk about Rashad White and Cooper Cup.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, Rachade, this was actually probably no brainers for me on both sides. I love for Chad White because again, this is a full PPR. I'm taking a guy who's gonna catch the ball. He had sixty four catches last year, seven hundred yards, three touchdowns on the just in receiving alone, and then you got him. They gave him the ball a lot, two hundred carries. He's gonna get the ball. I thought it was gonna be Sean Tucker. I really didn't wasn't sure about Rashad White going to a second year, but he absolutely surpassed his expectations. And I think they're gonna give him the same offense. He's gonna get that same production. And Cooper Cutt. He missed a couple of games last year, but again this is gonna be Pookin and Cooper Cup. They're going to get the bulk of the targets, and it's he's still one of the best slot receivers in the game. Matthew Stafford still has confidence in him, so again, I'm still guaranteeing he's going to get one hundred and twenty plus targets and probably get around eighty to ninety catches this year.
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Speaker 1: Scranton selects Diggs than Josh Jacobs, Isaiah Pacheco at four o four, Debro Trey McBride at four oh five. You're up with another pick here, but another tight end off the board. So so far as we are in the fifth round right now, this is at pick four oh five. Though there are one, two, three four tight ends, this was the third one off the board. How do you feel about Trey McBride here at four oh five. Do you see him being the clear number two here in this offense despite the fact that Zay Jones just signed a few days ago.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's the clear number two and I won't be surprised if at the end of the year he could possibly have more targets than Marvin Harrison Junior. And I know nobody's ready to have that conversation, but it's possible. Man, like what he was doing over
the back had of last year. Who was the tight end one in every single metric that you look at, and I get there was nobody else there. Marvin Harrison Junior is going to open up the field And it's really these two guys. And I don't really understand this, Joey, Like what happened to the years of we believe in elite tight ends being difference makers. We saw McBride go out there and just crush down the back half of last season. And yet in a year where if this is any other year, McBride should be in the twenties, he should be going in that range like the high twenties to mid twenties where Mark Andrews has been going every single season. But yet this year it's not happening. So I'll look at Trey McBride as a fantastic value right now.
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Speaker 1: Devon a. Chang goes next to four h six, then DK Metcalf, James Cook back to Andrew rickson four h nine, and you went wide receiver? Who'd you take?
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Speaker 3: Who did I take? Wide receiver?
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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper? Are you? Are you await? I mean, come on here, this is what happens you turn thirty, all of a sudden, this is what happens. Things start to go and decline. And you know this is why the NFL kicked you out.
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Speaker 4: No, I I because you said Devon h Chan, and I just was blowing in my mind that he was available like the fifth round.
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Speaker 1: Fourth th got happened in four oh six.
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Speaker 4: Again, I didn't know why I didn't notice that because I would have taken him clearly above Marik Cooper, totally, honest, I did.
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Speaker 1: He was far down though, you're completely turned around. Look, I know this is the first one of the year, but let's get you straight. So what happened was Cooper Cup went and then it came all the way back down. H Chan Metcalf Cook and then you took a Marik Cooper at four oh nine. You didn't have a chance. If you wanted him, you would have had to selected him way before you would have had to take him over Jalen Waddle, Does that set the record?
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Speaker 3: Okay? I'm very surprised that.
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Speaker 4: He was still available because I've seen him go like in some of these other drafts I've done, like in the second round. That's kind of where I expected him to be. So to see him fall around four. You know, I maybe would have done something differently, but yeah, Marik Cooper talked about him on one of the year fide Receiver. He's a safe wide receiver as my number three, and I wish I had eight Chan instead, but can I'll be happy.
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Speaker 1: So would you have taken him over Jalen Waddles that's the movie you would have had to Yes.
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Speaker 3: Probably.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I'm glad you're shaking the dust off here for you. Keenan Allen goes next c J. Stroud of four to eleven, and then at four to twelve after c. J. Stroud goes, I'm very happy to select Anthony Richardson with the twelfth pick, fourth round. Uh yeah, let's go. I'm all in. I love it in the single Quarterback League too, because it's so easy to back this up later. It is not hard at all. So I love this picking in a PPR. My RB two is Alvin Kamara, Who's gonna catch a ton of balls because whoever's playing quarterback is going to be limited for the New Orleans Saints, so that means a lot more targets for Alvin Kamara, who, by the way, last year I just want to say, despite the fact that he missed some games, still had eighty six targets caught seventy five palls. Can we can we just talk about that for a second. I know it's only six touchdowns on the year, but still that's more on the offensive on him. After Alvin Kamara goes, Zay Flower goes at five h two, Joe Mixing at five oh three, and then Andrew you made a pick at five oh four and you selected a tight end named Mark Andrews. Are you aware of this? I just want to be sure before we talk about it.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I was paying attention to just the chan pick. Surprised me where he went. I mean, you name dropped him. I brained did one thing and it was reactionary. And yeah, so Mark Andrews fifth round pick. I like the value there. Mark Andrews my tight end one in my rankings, and I just like the value on him versus a Laporta, Travis Kelcey in round three or even mcbriden round four, because I think that at least in my way that I have like the tier one of tight ends. I could see any of these guys finishing as tight end one overall. So whenever I feel that way, I was trying to get the guy latest, and that's Andrews for me.
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Speaker 1: Now, one of the great things here on the Fantasy Pros software for Draft Wizard is the pick predictor. Erickson was smarter, he would have used that and he would have seen dvon ah Chan still being around here and available potentially earlier. So don't be like Andrew. Use the tools here at fan Pros, including the pick predictor, at any given time, to make sure that you don't have the player you want pass you by rounds later or rounds before. Maleak Neighbors five oh five, then Kenneth Walker five oh six, Christian Kirkiet five oh seven, Kyler Murray at five oh eight to Derek Brown. So debro Stroud Richardson off the board and you went QB. I'm kind of surprised. I didn't think you would do this, but I get it. It is the little mini stack there with McBride and Murray, and you are a DFS guy at heart.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I look at both of these guys as they're really good values, Like linking up McBride and Murray right now and Kyler Murray. Can we not say that he still has top three overall upside considering the rushing. If we see it come back even more this year, the offense takes another step forward. Hell, they're just a more efficient offense with all the additions they made this offseason, including the offensive line. So Kyler Murray, I'm drafting him as much as humanly possible because I think the top three, top five ceiling is definitely there, and so to stack him up. I know, you know, we don't talk about it. You're not trying
for stacks in redraft. But if it happens, it happens, and I'm just investing. Like we talked about, I bypassed one with going away from London, I'm not bypassing another going away from Kyler Murray.
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Speaker 1: Top three is hard for me to buy five. I can listen.
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Speaker 3: It is well because for Kyler.
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Speaker 1: For Kyler, yeah, I will. I'm happy to tell you why. It's because I look at the other quarterbacks in their respective offenses and I have a hard time finding he's going to leapfrog Mahomes, Alan Lamar, possibly Anthony Richardson as well, possibly even I mean, look even Jalen Hurts. I mean, how many times are we gonna you know, continue to look at Jalen Hurts every year and he's up at the top of the board, So I think it's hard to leap frog all those guys top five in that mix. Yeah, but I don't think the Cardinals are quite an elite offense. So I still look at like we're undervaluing Patrick Mahomes. And now that sounds crazy, but I mean, this is a guy who's gonna throw for five thousand yards most years. Last year was a complete disaster based upon the players he was playing with and how terrible they were and Kelsey being hurt. It's not gonna be the case this year. They've already made big adjustments to this offense in terms of talent. So that's my problem, not that Kyler can't get top five, but top three I think is a little tougher. So I'll take that bet endless shrimp. Yeah, all right.
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Speaker 4: Do you remember Pad more games than Richardson? He can play a season. We know that that doesn't work in richards In favor.
00:26:31
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Kyler Murray's uh, you know, size has been an issue at times as well. It's not like he hasn't taken some hits and gotten the crap beat out of him and not played up to his ability or miss time too.
00:26:40
Speaker 4: Just saying, and the Cardinals at home last year, John, every game over went over.
00:26:45
Speaker 1: Do you want to be over on the Do you want to be on the other side of the boys here, John, or do you want to be on the right side with me? I believe.
00:26:56
Speaker 5: I'm believing in Kyler Murray this year. I really do. I I was apprehended when he got when he came back, I said, there's no way that he is going to be able to be as productive as he was, especially coming off the injury. But he he played very well at the end of the year. And now again you're adding Marvis and Arrison Junior. You already see what Trey Bryan Kray McBride can do. I mean, and let's see if James Connor stays healthy, this could be a great offenses. Yeah, and I really do love Kyler Murray's spot. I think definitely a top five floor.
00:27:29
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well we'll see how it all shakes out. I will say this, I think you're all had one too many margaritas at the Chileas. That's what I think. I'm old enough to.
00:27:40
Speaker 2: Remember Caler Murray being QB three and twenty twenty Joey. I don't know if you're old enough to remember that, or maybe you're too remember that.
00:27:46
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Harrington's definitely too old to remember.
00:27:50
Speaker 6: Uh.
00:27:50
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00:28:44
Speaker 5: Tell. Tell the kids in my freshman year in high school to get my last name right.
00:28:48
Speaker 1: Oh please, my last name is Pizapa. I've been called piece of beats in my entire life, and everyone thinks they're the first person to ever discover it.
00:28:57
Speaker 5: All right, I can't tell with fourteen kids. Fourteen year old kids do to my name.
00:29:01
Speaker 1: Now, it's all right, so sup awitz trust apologies.
00:29:04
Speaker 5: Even my graduation, even at my own graduations, they still get the name right. And you know, you write it down like this is how you pronounce it, and you still get it wrong.
00:29:12
Speaker 1: That's what happens, all right. So at the turn, here are you wan quarterback and tight end. Let's talk about these two picks of Joe Burrow and Evan Ingram.
00:29:19
Speaker 5: I love what Joe Burro co to do when he is on the field. You still have Jamar Chase, you still have t Higgins, and now I think it's going to be a great year for Chase Brown. I like Chase Brown more than I like Zach Moss. I think that's again great offense. Joe Burrow. When he is on the field, he puts up a ton of points. This is going to be again a high passing offense. And then when I have the chance to get Inger Ingram in towards my mid round, I'm taking them tight end six in twenty twenty two, tight end two in last year, and plus I love taking former giants that now excel after they leave my team.
00:29:57
Speaker 1: There you go.
00:29:58
Speaker 5: But again, the but the production. You didn't see that many times you saw. You didn't see that many touchdowns from Evan Ingram until midway through the season, and then he got on that touchdown run. I think it's gonna be a lot better going to this year. I think you could get to six, maybe seventy eight touchdowns this year.
00:30:13
Speaker 1: Next up Aaron Jones at
six h two, Tank Dell at six oh three, David Montgomery at six oh four, and then Debro. I love this pick. We're friends again. Samir White at six oh five. This is a huge value. I h tremendous job here. He is severely under ranked. I think you and I probably have him higher than most people on our early boards.
00:30:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, right now, and I'm double checking my ranks. So I'm not lying to people out there.
00:30:33
Speaker 1: I've got koy You're coming up soon, so I don't want to miss your pick here either, So don't don't, don't get off the screen here. I don't want you to get auto picks never.
00:30:41
Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good. I've got Samir White as my RB fourteen right now in my ranks, and I just look at it as like we're bypassing the volume. Why and I don't really understand it. I mean, will you look at Zamir White last year? Your average twenty three point three touches? He was the RB twelve when he was the starter, and I get it, it was a small samize. But if he can hold up under the volume, he's going way too late in drafts. I mean, come on, guys, like at his flour if he stays healthy, he's getting three hundred touches in this offense. At that spot in the draft, you're telling me I can get access to three hundred touches, I'm drafting a lot of zim You're white makes sense to me.
00:31:20
Speaker 1: I'm worth the end. They didn't do anything of the draft to basically shake that idea from your Mink, Chris Godwin at six oh six, Romandra Stevenson six oh seven, Deck Prescott six o eight, Xavier Worthy at six oh nine to the young man Andrew Ericksson. So let's talk about Worthy in her expectations, because he's not the only rookie wide receiver you just drafted here today.
00:31:39
Speaker 4: I mean, I love Xavier Worthy. I loved him as a prospect. I love that he's on the Chiefs, and I'm just trying not to overthink it. You know, we have a player that Andy Reid and thor Or own Thorn and Einstrom has compared Zaverworthy to DeShawn Jackson. So again, if you can put that guy in an offensive Patrick Mahomes, I'm just not gonna overthink. Oh, they're going to ease him in the targets with Rice and Kelsey in the running backs. I'm just gonna overthink it. Like, this guy is perfect for Patrick Mahomes, and I'm gonna draft him in fantasy football, all.
00:32:06
Speaker 1: Right, Roshie Rice goes next at six ten, So more to come on him. I'm sure as we get some more information, he should just stay home Netflix and chill.
00:32:14
Speaker 3: Right, he should get out of Texas. He's going to Kansas City.
00:32:18
Speaker 1: Seriously, Calvin Ridley at six to eleven. Then I took Jayden Reid at six twelve. He is my third wide receiver and James Connor a little bit of RB depth. After this, I think the RB board just gets real ugly, real fast, and Connor has been pretty solid here. So when Kyler Murray is QB one overall, like everybody else says here on the show, James Connor is going to have a great year. All those touchdowns DeAndre Swift at seven to Tony Pollard at seven three, and then back to you, Erickson for Lad McConkie. I was hoping you would make it back to me in the next round. He did not. You're a jerk, but I love you anyway. Great selection here at Ladd McConkie.
00:32:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, Justin Herbert is a really good quarterback, and I think that Lad McConkie's the best wide receiver on the Chargers. So I'm not afraid of Quentin Johnson. We're not Josh Palmer. I get that the overall passing volume isn't going to slb a ton in his Chargers offense with Harbaugh kind of running the show. He wants to run the football, but I mean, you can only run the ball so much with Gus Edwards commind of all and JK. Dobbins before it's like, hey, we gotta throw the ball sometimes. And I think Lab McConkie is going to be on the receiving end of a lot of play action throws. He's gonna be really efficient and in the red zone. So I think that he is a really high end potential as a rookie.
00:33:23
Speaker 1: Hollywood. Brown goes next seven oh five. Interesting that Brown went after Worthy and Rice. I don't think that's correct necessarily, Dee Bro, do you think that's right? Do you think that's the order Worthy? Rice Brown? I think it's big Brown Worthy Rice. To be honest with you.
00:33:38
Speaker 2: Uh God, we're just fighting on this show, Joey, I think that's the correct order.
00:33:42
Speaker 4: Are you saying I made a bad pick? Is that how you're saying? No, I'm not going to sheets receiver? Well you're surprised.
00:33:47
Speaker 1: This is Well, you know, another great feature at Fantasy Pros and Draft Wizard is cheat sheets. So if you're using the proper cheat sheets, you're always going to make the right selection. You could use a combination of Derek's picks, of the ranks between Derek, between Eric's and myself, make a hybrid or pick other analysts here, like mister suppowit's over there. But no, I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying it's interesting because Brown is the veteran, and typically the veterans get that first crack. That's what I'm saying, Debro, what do you say.
00:34:13
Speaker 2: He could probably get the first crack at the trainer's table when he ends up with foot issues like he's had the last few years. So I mean room today when that happens. I mean, sure he's first in line, but for targets.
00:34:25
Speaker 1: I don't know.
00:34:25
Speaker 2: He was pretty bad last year in Arizona, Joey, So.
00:34:29
Speaker 1: I let's talk about yeah, all right, No, that's fine, it's fine, it's fine. I'll continue. I'm going to make my picks here while you continue to go on and on here about this. Uh, let's get let's get some more picks here off the board. So after Hallio, Brown, Javonte Williams, Jordan Addison, and then you took Deontay Johnson at seven oh eight, all right, so sell me on this one. Debro.
00:34:51
Speaker 2: It just comes down to volume, and we're playing full PPR. I'm playing for the volume, and we know Deontay
is gonna get it. I mean, look at all of the terrible quarterbacks he's had to deal with, even like late stage Ben Roethlisberger was really bad. Deontay Johnson just Hoover's volume everywhere he goes. And if we have any faith that Dave Kanellis can turn this offense around, turn around the career of Bryce Shung, then Deontay Johnson's going to be the clear wide receiver one of this offense. Like I'm not putting that with Xavier Leaguette, and I'm not gonna, you know, put that title on Adam Feelen considering he's another year older. So Deonty Johnson, I just feel like, is a PPR cheat code for where he's going in drafts. Scott Bogman, our friend here over Fantasy pros. He suffered from late stage Ben Roethlisberger. It was really bad for a while.
00:35:36
Speaker 1: But luckily he's got justin fields maybe this year, so fingers cross, hopefully that'll get better. Dalton King Kid at seven oh nine, Naji Harris at seven to ten, and then George Kittle at seven to eleven, which brings us back to John with two picks. Here at the turn seven twelve and eight oh one, I went with.
00:35:51
Speaker 5: Jalen Warren just because we saw that Najie Harris did not get his fifty year options. So again the writing is on the wall. And as we saw during the end of last year, he started to get more catches. He had four or more catches and one, two, three, four five the last five games. I think he's going to start. It was a sixty forty for the most part, almost even, but I think he's gonna start to get more of the carries. This shared the bulk of the carries. And then I went Roma Dunias because a rookie. We got the rookie with Caleb Williams. He needs a big target and what I like about Romadunias is he is that big target. He is a dependable catcher, but he can gain separation. A lot of people are comparing him to Mike Williams, but I think he's actually a better runner than Mike Williams, a better route runner than Mike Williams, and he gets separation better than Mike Wims. So I think he's very to be very dependable this year.
00:36:42
Speaker 1: All right, after a Dunze goes, then you have Nick Chubb at eight oh two, DeAndre Hopkins, Jackson Smith and Jigba and then another running back Deebro your third Devin Singletary. Again, he's the new starter for New York. So as your third guy, I think you could certainly do worse than Singletary considering the setup he's got this year.
00:36:59
Speaker 2: I mean again, it's to volume play, guys, Like why is why? Why is Devin Singletary ranked as an RB three in a lot of different spots? Why is he going as late as he's going, Like we might not love the Giants, but he's going to get a ton of volume, and volume is the highest correlation to fantasy scoring for as far as the running back position, Like who else is going to take that job away from him? Like he Tyrone Tracy? I like him as a prospect, He's not going to eat into the volume for Devin Singletary, Like if he goes down, sure we could talk about him as a high end handcuff, but nobody's coming for that volume this year. So I'll look at Singletary. I'm gonna have him ranked as a top twenty four running back.
00:37:36
Speaker 1: Kyle Pits at eight oh six and Courtland's Sun at eight oh seven, So he can't take him this year. Ericson. Austin Eckler eight oh eight. Brian Thomas to Ericson at eight oh nine. All right, so this election the Jaguars in the draft of Brian Thomas Junior. Uh, he is pretty buried on your wide receiver depth shot right now. By the way, he still only have one running back as of the eighth round, so you are zero r being the out of this one here.
00:38:00
Speaker 4: Ericson, I mean, I think the correct term is is hero r being because I haven't yet, and that's what I talked about when I drafted. I was like, I feel good about him a RB one and then RB two. It's going to be fight to the death for whoever he's going to fill in that week. And I mean, I can't ever say I was sniped on Devin Singletary.
00:38:16
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, I got my guy on her here. Yeah, so I had to go.
00:38:24
Speaker 4: I had to pivot to the next other very replaceable running back and Gus Edwards. Uh, just think again until he gets hurt I think he's starting running back for the Los Angeles Chargers, who I'm now very heavily invested in this offense with lab McConkey and Gus Edwards, and their quarterback is still on the board, so maybe more to come when it comes to the Ers.
00:38:41
Speaker 1: I love the tease so good. Taji Spears and Ericson probably should have drafted. He was looking at the suggestions over in Draft Wizard, which, by the way, is going to suggest players for you every position or the best overall selection for your specific team as you're drafting. Amazing features here at Fantasy pros Uh. Then Raheem Moster at eight eleven, so obviously nobody's buying last year from Moster. Tyler Lockett goes to me at a twelve and Christian Watson, So I'm looking for a bounce back from Christian Watson if he's healthy. I still think he's an incredibly explosive player. We just got to get him healthy. Jacoby Myers at nine oh two and Brian Robbins at nine oh three, Gus Edwards at nine oh four. Erickson talk about it, Yeah, I mean I mentioned earlier he's going to be the lead running back for the Chargers.
00:39:21
Speaker 4: Again, I Kimani daval is getting a lot of hype. They have JK. Dobbins who may or may not be healthy, we don't know. But Gus Edwards is familiar with that offense. Greg Rumman is the offensive coordinator and he was there with Baltimore with Gus Edwards, who again for running backs, not nick named Nick Chubb, like Gus Edwards is another running back that always seems average five yards per kerry every single year. So he doesn't catch a lot of passes, but I do that he can rush for a lot of yards here and potential score some touchdowns.
00:39:46
Speaker 1: All right, very good, Let's continue on here with the draft. After you make that selection, it goes down to David and
Joku, Mike Williams at nine oh six, Zach Moss at nine oh seven, and then Josh downs to you, Derek Brown at nine oh eight.
00:39:58
Speaker 2: This is just investing in the Indianapolis Colts offense taking other step forward. Can Anthony Richardson be that guy? Can he be the difference maker? And look, ad I Mitchell is a fantastic add to this offense. He still might not be the number two wide receiver and without a tight end of consequence, somebody else is gonna have to get targets. After Michael Pittman, it could be Josh Downs.
00:40:19
Speaker 1: All right, moving on to the next selection here on the draft board. After you get Josh doawens CJ. Howkinson, who isn't gonna be ready most likely for the start of the season. We know that, so it depends on how much time he misses. Jameson Williams at nine to ten, key On Coleman at nine to eleven, and then two more wide receivers for John at the turn. Let's talk about Romeo Dobbs and Curtis Samuel. That's a Cagy one and Samuel is hoping will make it back to me. You stole them out of Mike c I wouldn't be shocked if Samuel had a better season than Coleman, would you be?
00:40:48
Speaker 5: I don't know about a better season than Coleman, But I love getting Curtis Samuel. He feels like a warm blanket, just somebody that you can slip in into your flex and he'll catch you like ten twelve points in EPR and he's going to Buffalo. Who is Joe Brady is the offensive coordinator there Curtis Samuel, very very familiar with Joe Brady. I think he's gonna know how to use him. Another guy who can line up in any spot on the field, you can take rushing attempts. I just love having Curtis Samuel on my life and my roster every year.
00:41:18
Speaker 1: All right, Samuel off the board, Chase Brown, Johan Dotson, Jonathan Brooks, Deebro. That one hurt, now get pivoted. I don't know. You and I both were just wait and wait and see how far we could go here. But Jonathan Brooks goes at ten oh four, Deebro, and now a gonna be fighting over So now we know round nine Debro if we want him. Trey Benson though, nice pivot at tene five. You gotta feel good about that one.
00:41:38
Speaker 3: I do.
00:41:39
Speaker 2: And this is again just taking upside shots if injuries happen. And we've seen this for James Connor over a few different years, and I don't want to project injuries because he was freaking awesome last year. But even in a part time role in this offense, we know he's probably gonna be flexworthy even in the early part of the season. And if Connor goes down Trey Benson's a top fifteen running.
00:41:57
Speaker 1: Back, all right, Benson off the board rome for Jerry Judy, Josh Palmer at tenawait, Jalil McLoughlin ten oh nine, So Ericson feels like somebody is playing into both strength.
00:42:10
Speaker 3: I love it.
00:42:11
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the checkdown King And actually, you know it was weird. You know, Debro had panned to the camera and he he looked like he was like a disappointed dad, And I was like, does
he did he just realize I picked Julian McLoughlin.
00:42:21
Speaker 3: That I was more than I'm saying.
00:42:24
Speaker 4: Is he trying to stare into my soul about how I drafted the Glofflin overhe did? But yeah, that's what I'm buying into. I I just don't see the commitment with the Broncos team for Javonte, like it's the last year of his contract. He hasn't really been the same since he came back from that injury and basically since Sean Payton got there, all he's done is out of the running backs and used the other running backs. And yes, Davonte had stretches of games last year where he was kind of productive, but it just seems like to me like they're ready to move on in the Glofflin, especially how effective he was last year. I know Debro's kind of looked at him as like the discount version of a chance. Basically, as a super efficient running back can get really late and yeah, maybe week one it's more of a muddle backfield. But if he can carve out a bigger role, especially as that pass catcher, I feel good about him as another running back I can kind of slide into my RB two slot.
00:43:10
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks at ten ten, then Ezekiel elliott I took Jake Ferguson at ten twelve, and Sharpeney at one. Mike c got obliterated that round, so unfortunately, I'm not too happy with how things went there. Adam Thieland at eleven oh two, Chubahovard at eleven o three, then Blake Korum back to you here, Ericson. So now we're starting to throw darts at the running back position. Feels pretty right to me, Ericson. I like what you're doing here.
00:43:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that Blake Korm is just like the perfect bench running back that you want in fantasy, whether it's redraft, best ball, I think it's perfect because the minute that Kium Williams goes down like Blake Korn, we're gonna be ranking as a top twelve running back like no hesitation because of the projected volume he's gonna see and we saw what he could do with volume at Michigan. All he did was score touchdowns. It'd be productive. So is he the most elite running back? No, but he can take on volume in should that opportunity to rise for him in Sean mcvay's offense. I think Korn would be a a really great fantasy asset all right.
00:44:01
Speaker 1: After Korum to Mario Douglas, Gabe Davis, Roshawn Johnson, then Jermaine Burton to Derek Brown. Burton a player with a lot of talent. So I guess here's the big question this said early draft. Is this pick in anticipation of T Higgins being gone? Or is this regardless of T Higgins? Is there?
00:44:17
Speaker 2: This is regardless, doesn't matter at his floor. If we get Tyler Boyd type of wide receiver four production out of Jermain Burton, then that's okay. I'm fine with that. He's gonna have his weeks. But can we also say that Burton at this point in his career, is a better player than Tyler Boyd. I think that's emphatically yes as well, and you have the upside if T Higgins moves on, then I mean, come on, guys, he's a wide receiver three what like in ranks we're gonna put He's gonna be vaulted as a top thirty six wide receiver? Am I wrong in that?
00:44:49
Speaker 1: Not necessarily?
00:44:50
Speaker 2: Uh?
00:44:50
Speaker 1: Xavier Lagette? Then Antonio Gibson, Dallas Goddard, Ken, Dre Miller and Brock Bauers close us out and start the twelfth round. So Miller and Bowers to you, John, your thought on getting Bowers here so late? And can he be a guy you know right away in this offense? So much talent? But I guess the question is the quarterback playing the offense with Davante Adams there still too? Is there enough for Brock Bowers and fantasy in twenty twenty four?
00:45:13
Speaker 5: I think from where I got him yet, there's definitely gonna be enough. He is going to be on the field line see a high snapshare for him. He's a great blocking tight end and he lines up and he lined up fifty six percent in the slot position. So I think he can move in and out of that lineup. Put him in any spot. I think he's gonna get a lot of more catches than people might believe, even with Michael Myers Michael Mayer on the other side of that field.
00:45:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, So don't talk about Michael Mayer too loud because we work with him too, and you know, if you say his name one more time, he'll end up showing up. It's like the Candy Man. It's a terrible thing.
00:45:46
Speaker 2: You're going beetlejuice.
00:45:49
Speaker 1: Well, well, I think Candy Man's a little scarier. I think it goes Blake Mayor all right, after brock Bowers, ty Chandler Dalton shows Jalen Wright, and then Marshaw Lloyd at twelve oh five to de bro Now, we've talked a lot about this lafleur, very glowing about Marshaon Lloyd. Now, of course that's what coaches should be with the guys they just drafted. But Josh Jacob's there, Aj Dillon is there in theory, but in practice, Marshaon Lloyd seems like a really good pick in the twelve round.
00:46:16
Speaker 2: Again shooting upside shots here, boys, I mean, all these guys that can have a flex worthy role to begin the season, and if anything changes, if Josh Jacobs turns back into a pumpkin which he was last year, or if he's hurt and dealing with injuries because he has not been the same guy after that high volume season. Marshawn Lloyd again is a guy we're gonna be ranking. If Josh Jacobs is out for any weeks, like Ericson's talking about with Korham and stuff, Marshon Lloyd will be a top fifteen back in rankings.
00:46:44
Speaker 1: If Jacobs is gone, there you go, all right, So Lloyd off the board. Ad Mitchell goes next to twelve oh six, then Cole Committ at twelve oh seven, Rashid Shahed at twelve oh eight. More just trolling the board. Andrew Rickson Tyler out Jeer. So he's trolled me with core and then al Jeer to Derek Brown. So how does it feel here to be like the jerk in the league?
00:47:05
Speaker 4: Erickson, Well, basically, I'm pushing my chips in on some of these backup running backs.
00:47:11
Speaker 1: On my team and Derek's team. I guess
that's the big question.
00:47:14
Speaker 3: Well, because I recognize that the upside they have.
00:47:17
Speaker 4: And you know something that I've looked at a lot this year and some of my off season prep is looking at injuries at the team level, so not just like looking at individual players. And the Falcons and Rams are two of the teams last year that were the most healthy on offense overall, so that tends to regress year over year. So if guys get more hurt on those particular teams, who's going to benefit the most. Guys like Blake Korm and guys like Tyler Algier.
00:47:39
Speaker 1: All right, there you have it, everybody continuing on here. After Algier, you get Khalil Shakir, Jordan Love and twelve eleven. Then I took Rico Dawdle the twelve twelve because I'm just not buying Ezekiel Elliot folks, Sorry, still not buying brock Perty at thirteen oh one. I'm going to back up my investment there with another QB one and Richardson just in case things go wrong or an injury happens or something a matchup I like. But I don't think I'm to be worried about this one. Although quarterback injuries were a lot last year, so having two even in a single quarterback makes a lot of sense to me. Pat Fryer moved at thirteen oh two than Khalil Herbert. Back to you. Speaking of quarterbacks, Jade and Daniels, lots of rushing upside, I assume that's what's tangible for you. At thirteen oh four, he passed one Herbert for him. He must really like him. Here ericson, well, I had to take Debro's guy. Basically, that was why I play. It was between him and Herbert. I have them ranked back to back.
00:48:29
Speaker 4: So I do think that the way that Herbert falling so much, I just I think it's crazy to me. But you have to recognize that the passing LAWU is probably not going to be there for him, and the weapons aren't as great as they used to be, Like there is no Mike Williams, there is no Keenan out, So how will that affect justin Herbert? So I think Herbert does have some question marks, whereas with Daniels, I just don't have question marks about how is rushing is going to translate to the NFL level, Like he's going to run. We saw Cliff Kingsbury run with Kyler Murray, his rookie year, and he won Offensive Rookie of the Year. We talked about in the Betting Pro Show jayde Daniels plus seven undred seven to one ons to win Rookie of the Year because I think he's gonna put up production numbers. We had the NFL projections drop on Fannys Pro's website. Jane Daniels is a top eight quarterback just by the projections. So again, like when you put in the numbers with the rushing, it just adds up to him being super productive and where you can get him in drafts as a super late quarterback. I just I love the late round quarterback strategy because like Oh Herbert or Jane Daniels, Caleb Williams is still available.
00:49:24
Speaker 3: Like I feel great.
00:49:24
Speaker 4: About those guys as guys that can take super late to kind of compliment the rest of my roster.
00:49:29
Speaker 1: After Dayton, uh Daydon Daniels, Jaden Darnels, Justin Herbert, then JK. Dobbins, Ray Davis, then DeMarcus Robinson to d bro We'll get to your two picks in a second, Hero, We'll sandwich them together. Caleb Williams at thirteen oh nine, Miles Sanders, then Baltimore Ravens defense off the board, John you went ahead and selected Matthew Stafford and Keaton Mitchell here, So Stafford is your backup to Joe Burrow and Keaton Mitchell there again another depth a running back guy for Baltimore.
00:50:00
Speaker 5: Yeah again, I got Stafford because because again Joe Burrow has gotten hurt in times. I did this last year with a few teams, and I did pretty well with it. When Burrow got her last year with that wrist injury, I just slipped Matthew Stafford right in and with Cooper Cup and Pooka and Nakua. That went very well. And now I stacked him with Cooper Cup and then Kante Mitchell again. Derrick Henry. He is a workhorse. He seems to just get better at age, but you never know what could happen in the league. So Derek Henry goes down, Mitchell steps right up, and he's going to get a healthy amount of Terry. So that's why I took him as a great option as sort of like a handcuff to Henry.
00:50:36
Speaker 1: The reclamation of Quentin Johnson at fourteen oh two, then Luke Musgrave, Baker Mayfield, and then there it is folks, Kamani Vidal, finally you got one, dee Bro. Let's talk about the running back of the Chargers.
00:50:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, these last two picks again is just going upside with it. I mean DeMarcus Robinson with the Rams, Like weeks after week thirteen, he was the wide receiver thirty one and fantasy points per game and people are forgetting about that. So tie me to a Stafford offense when he's healthy. And Kamani Videll again, like, who's he fighting with? It's Gus Edwards and his flat tires, and it's JK. Dobbins, who the Chargers could actually cut in camp and only be on the hook for fifty k fifty k in dead cap. So I don't even know if Dobbins makes it out of camp. If he doesn't prove that he's past the Achilles and he has the former burst, this could be Camanie Videls. He could be the RB two on this roster in very short order. And then we're talking about can he beat out Gus Edwards? See I think that can definitely happen.
00:51:28
Speaker 3: Was talking about my RB.
00:51:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how does it feel? Ericson? Yeah, if you're own medicine there, you like it? How does that taste for you?
00:51:34
Speaker 5: Pal?
00:51:34
Speaker 3: Greg Greg Greg Roman loves to ride the Gus bus.
00:51:38
Speaker 1: Yeah he lost the ride running backs.
00:51:41
Speaker 3: That bus runs out of gas.
00:51:42
Speaker 2: What does he do well?
00:51:45
Speaker 1: Then he turns to the JK Dobbins.
00:51:46
Speaker 4: Get outside and you push at fourteen oh six, AJ dilling A fourteen oh seven, the Cowboys.
00:51:56
Speaker 1: At fourteen oh eight, Tyrone Tracy Junior goes to a Then the Niners defense, Elijah
Mitchell. I took Troy Franklin, the bo Nick's good friend from school. Maybe they'll be roommates together at training camp Cleveland, Brown's defense for me, the Jets defense. Then Elijah Moore, so erics, and you took Trevor Lawrence here with your last pick, So you got two quarterbacks. How do you feel about these last two selections of Tracy and Lawrence.
00:52:19
Speaker 4: Love Tracy's upside Again, He's only played one season at running back, which was last year, but he led the nation and yards after contact per at ten, so apparently he's doing something right. But I do think that he could potentially push Devin Singletary. It may not be Week one, but as someone that a lot of people compared to Antonio Gibson coming out. Remember Antonio Gibson was buried on that depth chart one Washington, and then week one came along that cut Adrian Peterson and Gibson took over. So we'll see how things kind of shake out with Tracy, but I like him as an upside stash. And then I just chose another quarterback instead of drafting a defense because we don't know the schedule yet quite yet, and defense, for me, I'm drafting strictly on that opening schedule that's really worked well for me in the past, and so right now I'm just gonna take another quarterback.
00:52:58
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence.
00:52:59
Speaker 1: The game's been on the fourteenth of May. I mean, really, Eric really love it. Audrick Estimate Bill's defense, Chiefs Defense. De bro took the Steelers defense, and the Eagles Dolphins Jared goff john last selection of the draft. Who's mister irrelevant?
00:53:15
Speaker 5: Do I go talk and just get grab a defense? I kind of like, I kind of like what you I see what you did. But I like the Texans all right, So there you go. I think it's gonna be I think they're gonna be very good this year. And again I think Jimmy Texans one of going to be a top tier AFC team this year.
00:53:39
Speaker 1: The grades are in, it's a B plus for me. Where that is in the rankings, we're gonna look at a second. It's best for third overall. So congratulations to Cheetah who won the draft. Casessa finished second. I finished third. Trying to look for the rest of the guys. Oh, I see you guys there. You are ten, eleven, and twelve. Well done. Everybody didn't come in last. But here's theirs.
00:54:06
Speaker 5: Of course, last rankings always means first at the end of the year.
00:54:09
Speaker 1: Well, but here's the thing. These are the very early rankings, right, So we have some guys and we're going to talk about a lot of these players for for the next three months. That the Jonathan Brooks of the world, you know, the guys that are going to slowly tick up an ADP, the guys that you know, the vidals, all these players. This is again results wise. We're talking about trying to get the best process here more than anything. So jokes aside, because it is funny when I'm above all you guys, and we love that. Because I'm also hosting the show. All you guys have to do is draft. I gotta do reads. I gotta make picks, I gotta ask questions and still draft better than you. It's an impressive thing. But let's talk about it. Let's talk about the team here, debro. Let's talk about yours, because honestly, there are a lot of picks here that I look. You start with Kyler Murray at quarterback. You got b Jeon Robinson, Zamir White. I love the running back room. The wide receivers. To me, that's to the deficit of this team and a year where I think you need those big dog wide receivers Olave, DeVonta Smith and Deontay Johnson. It's more like a collection of twos here for me. That's how I see this group. But sell me on it differently, and then we'll get to the rest of the roster.
00:55:15
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at this team, I'm garnering volume and I'm going with upside, and yes, does the wide receiver room lack a guy where I can say, okay, he is definitively top eight, top ten. Sure does this wide receiver for a room also going to see a ton of volume? And am I playing matchups throughout the entire season? And if multiply these guys pop like DeVonta Smith be ends up as a top twenty guy, top fifteen guy. Same with the Lava. I'm totally fine and I'm really just mixing and matching my wide receiver three spot. And you're telling me, Okay, t Higgins doesn't go away. DeMarcus Robinson. People are sleeping on him because I'm here to tell you he's back. And guess what, tywer Higbee's not healthy. The Rams offense could be even better with the offensive line and throw more this year. So I like the team. I mean, there was like missteps where it's like, could I have gone with another wide receiver over Trey McBride, But I'll look at McBride as a cheat code. He's going way too late in drafts and if he is the tight end one overall, then he's a difference maker. So some of this is me also putting my money where my mouth is and investing in the ceiling outcomes in some of these players.
00:56:21
Speaker 1: Well, having McBride is like having a number two wide receiver at tight end, Like that's what you've done here. So you may almost have to do that, though, if you are going to roster construct this way and you did it so good on you, Singletary at the flex Pittsburgh Steelers defense. But then the bench is really what I want to talk about. Trey Benson, love this selection there, Josh Downs. By the way, we all took each other's like, backup, guys, This is hilarious. This is what friends do. This is the most realistic draft you're going to have with your friends when you get to the end of the year. Trey Benson, Josh Downs, Marshaw Lloyd loved that pick. Jermaine Burton loved that pick. We can argue about DeMarcus Robinson. I don't think it's enough targets to go around and then Vidal, So the Lloyd Benson Vidal To me, Debro, this is your ability to select these running backs late is the reason why you go wide receiver early, because I think you've got so much talent on that bench, and Singletary is going to get that volume that
maybe if you had to do it over again, would you still have taken Bijon Would you have rather gone with one of the bigger wide receivers still on the board. Looking back at how things might be shaping up here in some of our early drafts.
00:57:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, looking back at the board, if I would have not gone Bijon, and I would have gone because I also wrestled with that pick. I mean going back, yes, I would have changed it. I would have gone instead of going Bijon, I probably would have gone Garrett Wilson and Puka or I mean one of those guys. Those are the two other wide receivers that I was wrestling with back and forth. But here's the thing. We're in May, so we're trying out different roster builds and going running back early in one of those top two rounds. This is the time where you need to play around with bills and say, okay, what does the rest of my team look like if I do that versus going top wide receiver.
00:58:01
Speaker 1: All right, John, let's look at your team here. Joe Burrow quarterback, Love that Sekwon Barkley, Rushod White. I mean just terrific there. I mean, talk about in a PPR league the way you want to have. And then you've got Marvin Harrison who could absolutely finish as a wide receiver one and he's being ranked that way already as if it's already happened. Cooper Cup could absolutely do the same thing at your wide receiver too, Roma Dunze, that's a tough one rookie quarterback, third guy in the depth chart at wide receiver could be tricky. But then Evan Ingram, Jalen Warren, Houston Texans defense. The bench is Brock Bowers, Matthew Stafford, Romeo Dobbs, Kendre Miller, Curtis Samuel, and Keaton Mitchell. So when you're looking at this roster construction, what's your takeaway here? First draft of the season, how do you feel?
00:58:42
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we're looking at ADPs now, and everybody's got to know that the ADP now is not going to be the ADP come June, July, August. It's all gonna change, especially as we go through training camp and some players start to get some buzz and star players get first team reps, and then we see preseason games. What I like to do when I constructing a team is I want to be the best at at least one position. And that's what I did with when I got Sae Kwon Barkley and rich Old White. Because let's say maybe Romer Duniez doesn't perform as well as I like. Let's say maybe Cooper Cup isn't playing as well as I want, or maybe I need a little more bench dep I can get a haul for possibly a Rashad Why or say Kuon Barkley and get a bunch of potential back that can help my team at the wide receiver position. So that's why I like to do personally. And it's again Evan Ingram. He is just in that system. He works so well, and now he's becoming one of the more seasoned receiving options in that Jacksonville offense. So I think again he's gonna put up top five persential for me, getting him below Sam Laporta and Mark Andrews and those guys. I think it's a great steal. And then
again with Jalen Warren, I think he's gonna end up getting the bulk of the bulk of the carries in that offense. And Ge Harris again they didn't pick up his fifty year option. To me, his days are time to dwindled, and I think he's gonna get six. It's gonna start pretty split, but I think we're gonna see Warren get more and more carries as the season progressed.
01:00:13
Speaker 1: Check it out the expert opinions, and of course Joe Pizzapia gave me an a so. I love that guy. He's so handsome, does a good job. Sam hoppin Guys gave me an a plus. I got a screenshot this and send it to Sam, who we work with here at Fantasy Pros. I mean, I didn't know Sam could great anything that high. I think that's amazing. I'm very excited about that. Of course, gave me a thumbs down. Andrew Erickson, he gave me a B minus on my draft. So ericson, let's talk about your roster, shall we.
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Speaker 3: I gave you, I gave you a B minus. To know what you gave me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't even show up the screen and I got nothing. He's not even there. So it's.
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Speaker 3: Thumbs down.
01:01:00
Speaker 1: Said, you know what you should do if I gave you an F. I think you need the screenshot that and I think you may make your new X banner up on the top over your profile. Joby's failed my draft. Let's talk about it. Jaden Daniels, who I'll be. I'm gonna be honest here with the greats. Jade and Daniels love this pick. I think it's a great upside pick in a single quarterback league, and you backed it up later, so you're all good. Travis atn at running back, Juli McLoughlin is your two. I think that's that's gonna little much. But the wide receiver grouping is tremendous. Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddell, Amari Cooper, fingers crossed. Hopefully things will go well, Mark Andrews again, if he could stay healthy. It's it's a great pick there. Xavier Worthy, I love as a flex. I think that's exactly where you want. And because your bill is so good, you could afford to take Worthy there, and it's all upside. Trevor Lawrence, you're backup. I love Lad mcconki. This is not an F from Joey p. That's wrong. It's not very PC of me to fail my gus Edwards, Blake Korham, Tyler Algier, Brian Thomas. I give this a BE. I think this is a hard B. It's a hard B for me. Love the wide receivers. The running back room is a lot of darts, and hopefully quarterback is good. I think this is a strong B team. So does that make you feel better?
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Speaker 4: Yes, it does because now you're you've ranked me the second highest among all analysts besides me.
01:02:20
Speaker 1: That's good, hard b.
01:02:21
Speaker 2: It's better than a self D. That's what I got as a grade.
01:02:24
Speaker 1: That's what I've heard ericson. What do you think about? Oh this way, listen to the whole show? What do you think about this roster looking back on anything you might have changed or done differently.
01:02:35
Speaker 3: So I do like the late round quarterback approach.
01:02:37
Speaker 4:
I feel really strong about that because I feel comfortable with the guys I got, and I got them with my thirteenth and fifteenth overall picks. So I guess the one thing I probably would try to adjust is when I took the swing on RB two. You know I was considering it in that same range round six through eight when I ended up going three straight rookie wide receivers. And what the draft analysis is telling me is I reached on those rookie receivers. Now, you can say a rookie receivers a reach, but based on their kind of wide range of outcomes, it's like I'm just betting on one of them hitting and one of them drastically beating their ADP.
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Speaker 3: So if only one of them hits.
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Speaker 4: I feel good about that, But there are running back considerations. I could have pivoted instead of Maconcae, could have gone Tony Pollard like that would have been a better RB two, and then I would still have two shots at rookie wide receivers could have gone like you said during the show, Tajai Spears instead of Brian Thomas, like things like that are maybe I would go back and maybe change a little bit.
01:03:27
Speaker 1: Fair enough. All right, let's look at the Joey p roster. Here, Anthony Richardson at quarterback. He's gonna break fantasy. You want to talk about guys who might finish in the top three, Let's talk bout Anthony Richardson. It's like Kyler Murray. That's way more fun to talk about Kyen Williams and Alvin Kamara in the PPR. Here, Look, if I can go to war with these two running backs, I'm very happy. I understand there's downside to Karen Williams. I get that, but it's not like Kamara can't carry me at RB one spot in the PPR. Ceedee, lamb, he's pretty good at football. Last time I checked, he had a gazillion catches for a gazillion yards, and I believe that's the exact number if I'm looking here at the stats. Mike Evans my two, Jayden Reid as my three, Jake Ferguson at tight end, James Connor at the flex. Then the Cleveland Browns defense, Brock Purty on the bench just in case uh, and then Christian Watson, Tyler Locket, Zach Sharboney, Troy Franklin, Rico Dowdell Debro. What would you give this draft of mine?
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Speaker 2: I would give it a heart beat as well, Joey hard b hardb hard B. I mean, I like your team to be honest. So like the way that you built out the wide receiver room and you got a ton of underrated volume with I know everybody's din on Kien Williams because Blake Korham is there, but it's still gonna be Kyen's job, assuming he stays healthy. And let me come on, even if he gets sixty percent of the work, sixty five percent of the work, he's still gonna be a top fifteen running back. Maybe he's still an RB one in that offense. So I love that you went volume. I guess my biggest question Joey is, could you've gotten another packer on this roster because you went red and you wentston like, like, we should have gotten one more packer to s Pat Fitzmore is here right, like, come on, I got two.
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Speaker 1: I thought Pat would be proud of me. I tried to get too in there, but look, you and I both know Christian Watson's healthy. He has a game changing, game breaking guy. So Jayden Reid having both of them, to me, it's different roles in the office, So it's to me that's okay. But look, I would.
01:05:16
Speaker 2: Bust in your chops. But they're both really go to a season on this.
01:05:19
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty What I'm looking Ford is I'm looking for guys who are going to win me weeks. Yep, Kiren can do that, Kamara can do that. Still, Yep, Richardson certainly can, and Ceedee Lamb certainly can. So like, if you have enough of those guys on your roster, typically good things will happen. But I have to say it's gonna be a really interesting draft season. We're gonna be fighting over a lot of picks for a very long time. John Suppowitz, thank you so much for joining us here. Check out his work at Fantasy Pros and at Betting Pros, and of course check out all of the new stuff that's up and running over fantasypros dot com. From Derek Brown and from Andrew Erickson. Andrew and I just did a Betting pro show too, looking ahead early futures, get a jump on some stuff for other people do and that schedule comes out great stuff as always, and shout out to our production team always making incredible work here for us. So join us on our discord, be part of these mock drafts with us Fantasypros dot Com slash Chat. It's free, it's fun. Go join today and go start drafting on your own with the draft Wizard. Download Draft Wizard, go to Fancaybros dot Com slash draft Wizard and start your mocking. That'll do it for us, but the story of the game goes on for Debro, Ericson and John. I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time.
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