התמלול המלא של Booksmart: Diving Into Intimacy with Brooke M. Haney

a year I read something or watched something or listened to a podcast or took a class all on queer sex storytelling, BDSM, and kink. 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:39.279 And then one day a theater that I'd been working with for a while was like, Hey, will you be our intimacy director again? 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:44.639 And I was like, Dear Google was an intimacy director. 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:52.399 And I discovered that these things, consent and boundaries, choreography at closure, are what I'm doing. 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:54.399 And now there is a craft. 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:59.439 So I started taking classes and kept working, and here we are. 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:00.720 Oh, that's awesome. 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:08.240 Also, can we just quickly discuss how we're three queer intimacy coordinators who used to be or are still actors? 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:09.600 Kind of amazing, right? 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:10.000 Yeah. 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:10.879 Yeah. 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:11.199 Yeah. 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:16.240 What is the craziest scene you've worked on as far as content within the project? 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.680 I have permission from the actors and the producers. 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:25.680 I worked on a film called Burder that takes place in a queer nudist camp. 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:28.560 And it's a queer psychosexual thriller. 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:32.720 There's a threesome on the beach in which two of the characters die. 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:33.360 Whoa. 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:37.600 And the day of shooting, we had issues. 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:41.120 We were shooting on a like an island that you could only get to by boat. 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:43.279 We had issues with the boat that morning. 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:49.360 So we had to bump the scene to the end of the day, which, as you know, is not generally ideal for intimacy. 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:59.360 So we were shooting this choreographically very difficult scene, emotionally difficult scene, and we were fighting the light. 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:04.639 That was for sure one of the most difficult scenes I've ever experienced. 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:07.120 And I think it came out really awesome. 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:21.920 And the actors afterward have really positive things to say about the experience, which I'm very grateful for because time can be a coercive, and we were rushing at the end in a way that I think was professional and as safe as we could be. 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:24.879 I love the phrase time is coercive. 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:26.480 That's so very real. 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:27.600 Stealing that. 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:29.920 Yeah, it was steal that real, real fast. 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:41.360 I also want to say, just for audience who may or may not be in like in the film world, first of all, gotta say, lunch is any time of day and can be whenever it is. 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:45.680 It's just like six hours into filming, so lunch

could be at midnight. 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:51.920 Second of all, the reason it's difficult to do intimacy scenes after lunch is the actors feel full. 00:06:52.079 --> 00:07:07.680 They don't necessarily always want to, if it's some kind of implied or actual nude scene, they don't really want to take off clothing necessarily, or they sometimes don't eat, and then folks may potentially faint or have some kind of other issue or glycemic issue. 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:09.519 After you eat, you're just tired. 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:13.279 Everyone's just tired and slower and like a little less into what we're doing. 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:19.360 Even when actors are fully prepared, sometimes these scenes can still be very vulnerable. 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:25.759 So having to think about it all day while working on other things can be emotionally exhausting for them. 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:36.480 Um and like getting to go and do it and then the relief of how it went so well and I actually had fun can actually move your day into a really positive rhythm. 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:42.160 Yeah, you don't have like the anticipation or anxiety of a scene throughout the day. 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:46.879 So it it can be really helpful to just like get it done, get it over, rip the band-aid off. 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:50.240 Don't do it on the first day of filming, but do it the first day. 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:53.040 First day, first scene. 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:53.839 Hi, nice to meet you. 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:56.079 We're gonna have a threesome and be murdered. 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:18.160 The situation you described, Brooke, speaks to the importance of prep because I'm sure the conversations that you had with the actors before production, on the day when you met with them individually, and all of that made it so that even when there was pressure of, oh, we're gonna lose the light, we have to get this done by a certain time, maybe people are tired, we don't want to go into overtime. 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:25.519 Like because you did all of that work ahead of time, it allowed the actors to get to the place where they needed to be to do their performance. 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:28.000 Prep is such a huge part of our job. 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:33.679 And because we were so far into the film, I had done intimacy scenes with all of these actors already. 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.159 They'd seen the process with other actors. 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:36.639 Right. 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:41.120 People are more able to trust because they've seen proof that it's gonna work. 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:42.000 Absolutely. 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:43.600 And build that trust with you too. 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:45.519 Like build that professional relationship. 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:46.960 I have a question though about that. 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:49.279 It was you said it was on the beach itself. 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:51.679 How tell me about sand. 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:53.679 Talk to me about all that sand. 00:08:54.559 --> 00:09:00.320 Well, we had a blanket that we definitely shook off between takes. 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:02.559 Miraculously, it was not the biggest problem. 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:05.440 Were they wearing modesty garments at the time as well? 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:06.799 And prosthetics. 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:08.159 And prosthetics. 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:08.720 Got it. 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:12.159 And the sand didn't get stuck to all the adhesives and stuff. 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:13.120 Amazing. 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:14.480 Kind of amazing. 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:15.840 That is kind of phenomenal. 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:21.120 It is like the glitter of nature where it is just like everywhere forever. 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:23.120 So well done, you. 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:29.840 I did a scene literally yesterday where one of the actors had glitter and it was all over that monastic colour. 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:32.159 And I was like, this is the end of this. 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:35.279 That's when you should maybe shoot at the end of the day. 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:35.919 Yeah. 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:36.399 Yeah. 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:38.799 If glitter's involved, that's the exception. 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:45.519 And speaking of adhesives and all that fun stuff, what is your favorite kit item? 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:48.399 I really like a tagger. 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:51.200 Like you to tag as- Also use the tag! 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:53.759 I'm a huge proponent of the tag. 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:54.879 Yeah. 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:55.360 Yeah. 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:59.840 It just feels like such a way to like give ease of movement. 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:03.200 Um, for anyone who's listening that doesn't know what we're talking about. 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:07.759 It's like the gun you use to tag a ticket on a piece of clothing. 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:17.840 If you're gonna buy a piece of clothing, and we'll do it, we'll like tag a sheet to a modesty garment so the actor can roll around on the bed and the sheet kind of comes with them. 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.159 What do you use it for other things? 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:28.559 I mean, I'll use it if there's a rip in something and wardrobe isn't for it has not been requested for a clothes set, so I can just pop there. 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:32.399 Um, if it's not silk or something, sheet is a great use. 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:35.679 I've never needed to do that specifically, but I've done it with towels. 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:38.559 Like if you have a design towels of a shower or something. 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:39.360 Yeah, yeah. 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:45.360 Yeah, and they keep like tucking it in, but then it like unrolls and falls out, and then you just like tag it, and then we don't have to worry about it. 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:46.000 Brilliant. 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:53.120 That's a good segue into our scene work

where today we are covering the film Book Smart. 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:56.399 Yay! Brooke, what is your experience with this film? 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:57.919 I just love this film. 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.360 I think it's such a good queer film. 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:08.559 And I hadn't watched it in years before you all asked what film I would like to do, and I was like, oh, Book Smart would be fun. 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:13.600 But then I re-watched it in prep for this and was like, man, it's so good. 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:16.559 The thing that I had remembered was that it was awkward. 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:21.279 I've worked with directors who say, like, oh, we don't need to choreograph it because it should be awkward. 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:23.759 And then I'm like, we can choreograph awkward. 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:24.559 Yes. 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:33.840 Or the expectation is just that these two characters, because they're meant to be together or whatever, are magically really good at sex. 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:36.720 We can have boundaries too. 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:45.679 And one of my boundaries is that when possible, I don't work on projects where underage characters are sexualized. 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:52.080 But what I love about this film is this is about underage characters and it is about sex. 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.960 And I don't think it's sexualized for the adult gaze. 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:00.399 That's such a good way of putting it. 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:09.759 Because we often hire actors who are over 18 to play high schoolers, sometimes it's easy to forget that the character is supposed to be 16. 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:14.080 Another one of the many reasons that I love Book Smart is because it feels like that age. 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:20.320 Like they still feel like half child, they still have that innocence, still they're still figuring things out. 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:20.559 Yeah. 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:22.799 And I'm like, that's so much more relatable. 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:25.679 So just a little context to start. 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:29.120 I know all three of us have watched this film and loved this film some years ago. 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:33.919 Caitlin Deaver as Amy Ansler and Diana Silvers as Hope. 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:38.960 This is written by Emily Halburn, Sarah Haskins, Susanna Fogle, and Katie Silverman. 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:53.519 Produced by Megan Ellison, Jessica Ellbaum, Katie Silverman, and Jessica Barnard and David Distenfeld, directed by Olivia Wilde, woo-woo, and co-intimacy coordinated by no one, even though it's from 2019 and ICs existed at the time. 00:12:53.759 --> 00:13:01.919 So, context Amy and Molly crash Nick's graduation party after realizing their classmates got into good colleges despite partying. 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:04.879 And Amy becomes nervous around her crash, Ryan. 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:11.200 After drinking and feeling overwhelmed by jealousy and insecurity, Amy impulsively jumps into the pool. 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:16.240 So we're going to start at about an hour and four minutes in. 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.279 What a great um freeze frame right there. 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:20.399 Alright, so here we go. 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.039 So here they're going outside. 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:29.440 And I think we're gonna see right away with how they take their clothes off. 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:34.320 Ryan's pulling them off over sideways over their body. 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:37.840 It's not the like smooth two hands up and over. 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:48.000 And I love that we're just seeing her back, Ryan's back, and jumps in and it's like a cannonball, not a like beautiful dive. 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:56.879 I think there's so much in this like hair, hands, bubbles, light, and just body parts. 00:13:57.120 --> 00:14:00.240 We're seeing her look around and swim. 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:07.600 And like, even though we just saw the front of someone's pelvis and it took up a pretty significant part of the screen, it wasn't about that. 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:13.440 I'm just struck by how many background folks are in this scene as well, and and they're all in their underwear. 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:15.679 The amount of people you would need to speak to. 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:16.720 So many. 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:21.039 I'm also struck by how she has to keep her eyes open underwater so much. 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:22.080 Oh my gosh. 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:23.039 Yeah, uncomfortable. 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:29.120 Totally. 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:33.360 So now we see her seeing her crush with a boy. 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:36.639 And even underwater, they have hands on each other. 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:41.519 Like her hands are on his shoulder, his hands are around her waist, on her leg. 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:48.960 And it's not grabby passion, it's two teenagers making out in a pool. 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:52.480 Yeah, there's a little bit of hesitation between the two of them. 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:59.600 They're not like she has her leg around him, but she's not like pulling him in close to their pelvises, or like as close together as possible. 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:01.519 And now the shot just looks crowded. 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:02.720 She's feeling stifled. 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:06.960 It's she's getting out of the water, but the camera is placed to the side. 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:13.679 So we kind of see the side of her go getting out as opposed to her face coming out, her chest. 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:15.440 Oh, like a little mermaid. 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:15.759 Right. 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:17.600 Yeah. 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:22.320 Oh my god, we're not like tilting down and following every inch of the front of her body. 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:24.879 Yeah, the droplets falling and whatever. 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:27.840 It feels fantastical to me. 00:15:28.080 -->

00:15:28.720 It does. 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:30.240 But also heartbreaking. 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:39.360 Like it feels like when she jumps in, you're in this fantastical world of possibility until the moment that she's disappointed. 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.279 And then all of a sudden, it felt crowded. 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:47.519 The person that her crush is with is not someone who feels so much more sexually advanced than her. 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:58.080 Like she's the awkward one, and this is a very mature young person who feels more comfortable in their body and is moving in more like a kitty-like fashion or something. 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:00.720 Like, she's also an awkward young person. 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:02.720 They just happen to connect. 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:05.279 And I feel like a lot of times we would have seen that other story. 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:08.720 It's like, well, you're not with him because you're too innocent. 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:14.639 There are people that age that are very passionate and grabby and experienced and all of that. 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:15.039 Yeah. 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:19.120 And the beauty of this film is that it's not that. 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:22.159 I also appreciate the the wardrobe choices. 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:24.960 Like it was full coverage underwear, there were bralettes. 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:28.080 Like it was refreshing to see something so different. 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:29.200 And I liked that. 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:33.279 I love that Ryan is in a racerback sports bra, basically. 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:39.440 Like we're not in a padded wonder bra situation, which would have been a very different choice and would have told a very different story. 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:51.279 It's really interesting because a lot of the time when young queer folks are depicted, it's like they have an active disregard and dislike of the opposite sex. 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:55.919 Whereas in this scene, you see her sort of appreciating all bodies in the space. 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:06.480 It's directed towards Ryan, but she's just kind of in wonder about people in general and this blossoming of sexuality as it occurs and surrounds her. 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:07.920 And I think that's very cool. 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:12.640 Yeah, and it's this world that she's missed out on because she's been studying all the time. 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:16.640 And it's that like, oh life. 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:17.759 Yes. 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:19.519 Yes, exactly. 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:21.680 Snaps for life. 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:26.640 Which brings us to our next scene, which is literally 10 minutes later in the film. 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:28.799 Like, what an arc! Insanity. 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:34.160 Context for this part of the film Amy and Molly are still split up at this party. 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:39.759 So after the situation with Ryan, Amy has run into another character, Hope. 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:46.720 They are experiencing their first sort of intimate moment as Amy finally sort of acts on her feelings. 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:51.039 We're gonna start at 1142-ish. 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:54.799 I also I just want to say, so we're watching this on YouTube right now. 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:58.160 I'm gonna show I'm gonna show you this because I didn't know that it ever did this. 00:17:58.240 --> 00:17:59.359 This is amazing, actually. 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:06.720 If you scrub through the bottom, it says most replayed is the scene we're about to watch. 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:08.000 Amazing. 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:10.079 I love it. 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:11.519 Kind of incredible. 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:15.839 And I feel like, see, most replayed, fantastic. 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:19.039 So Amy has kissed Hope. 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:26.400 We see her take the initiative, and then she takes the initiative to take Hope's shirt off. 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:28.480 Together go to kiss each other. 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:30.480 Hope asks, like, are you okay? 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:31.279 Is this okay? 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:32.720 Asking for consent. 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:34.960 Amy says, We're not stopping. 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:40.319 Hope goes to lay down, is unbuttoning her own pants. 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:45.440 Amy's trying to pull them off, but Hope is wearing converse tennis shoes. 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:53.119 So now there's the like time it takes to take off the tennis shoes, and it's difficult to get the jeans off now. 00:18:53.519 --> 00:19:04.160 Amy falls back pulling them off, and then she's pulling off Hope's underwear, and she's realizing she needs to take off her stuff too. 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:12.720 We just see like her chest up as she's trying to wiggle out of her underwear under her dress and then pulls her dress off. 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:17.039 But instead of watching her take it off, we watch Hope watching her take it off. 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.279 Amy's starting to crawl on top. 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:20.960 They both start kissing. 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:22.880 They're kind of making out now. 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:28.559 We see Amy's character go to reach down theoretically to do some manual stimulation. 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:30.559 She's asking how it's going. 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:31.519 Is it good? 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:36.480 We can tell it's not great, but it's maybe okay, fine. 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:41.519 I don't think that's the whole you think it is, which is great. 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:43.599 My geometry was off. 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:52.559 Referencing an earlier scene where uh Molly, her best friend, says, It's just what you do to yourself. 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:54.160 You just turn it around. 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:57.039 And she's saying, I'm I'm not used to approaching it from that angle. 00:19:57.359 --> 00:19:58.559 And then she vomits. 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:00.160

Oh my gosh. 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:02.160 I mean, luckily you're in a bathroom. 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:04.880 And luckily you're in the bathroom, so we can wash it off. 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:10.559 We see kind of from right above her bra up as she's putting her clothes back on. 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:11.839 So good. 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:14.319 Love the way that consent is shown in the scene. 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:24.799 It's actually in the text, but also there's moments you see it in them like kissing and then backing up and asking for permission with their eyes, like not rushing into it. 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.680 Morgan and I have talked about this a lot on the podcast. 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.319 Consent on screen doesn't need to be. 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:32.240 Do you consent to this activity? 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:33.359 Yes, I do. 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:39.039 It can just be a flicker of the eyes and a light nod or something of just like a smile. 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:43.519 There are so many options for body language to reveal consent. 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:46.720 And I'm just I'm blown away by this scene in particular. 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:54.880 I also just want to say, I love that they put her on a fluffy rug so the actress doesn't have to feel the cold hard tiles beneath her. 00:20:55.119 --> 00:21:00.000 I think what's also nice about the consent is it's not just them checking in, like, is this okay? 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:02.319 But it's also like truly just trying to figure it out. 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:02.799 Yeah. 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:03.279 Yeah. 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:04.480 Do you like this? 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:05.680 Yeah, yeah. 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:07.519 Am I good at this? 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:13.119 Because what especially when you're having those like really early experiences, I mean, you truly don't know. 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:15.519 Like you haven't interacted with a lot of other bodies. 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:17.519 You're used to just yourself. 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:20.480 And and so you can't feel how it feels on the other end. 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:25.119 And you also like don't want to be embarrassed or, you know, accidentally throw up on the other person. 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:27.119 Yeah, that would be crazy. 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:29.759 Yeah, it's really vulnerable. 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:37.359 And it's so tempting to try to play it cool, especially if it's someone like you've been crushing on for a while, especially someone who like seems really cool. 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:41.839 Like she didn't look at her like, oh, I can't believe you're not experienced enough. 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.240 Like they understand this is where we're both at. 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:54.079 I read an interview with Olivia Wilde, who directed it, that she wanted the like converse in there intentionally because I have that in my notes. 00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:54.799 Yes. 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:59.599 Yeah, because those are the kinds of things that like you get to in real life and you're like, uh, they never have shoes in. 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:05.759 Movies, and we do learn so much of our sex education from movies and other media. 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:16.000 And maybe that's also why I love this film is I feel that a lot of queer sexuality has been stunted because there's so little representation of queer intimacy. 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:18.240 And so I loved that that was part of it. 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:26.480 The tedish shoe, love it that they actually showed that like that's gonna take a minute, and those skin tight pants are gonna be difficult to get off. 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:29.119 Yes, the skinny jeans. 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:31.839 And and you know that you bring up such a good point. 00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:37.200 That's something we also talk about on the podcast is the representation of sexuality in media. 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:45.359 Because sex education in this country is so extremely limited, especially when it comes to queer sex, it really matters what we're showing. 00:22:45.440 --> 00:23:00.559 And if we only show people who young people immediately have the confidence and body awareness of a full adult, then people are gonna feel like if that's not my experience, and I there must be something wrong with me. 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:06.640 I love that on this season of Bridgerton, they have someone that can't find climax. 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:17.200 Both a character like manually stimulating themselves, masturbating, who can't get there and gives up, and a character that can't get there with her husband. 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:20.400 Those are things that happen all the time for people. 00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:22.960 And normalizing it is super helpful. 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:30.960 In season one, Bridgerton did a great job of showing how she truly didn't understand like how sex worked because nobody talked about it. 00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:37.680 Like she didn't understand that by her husband pulling out, he was actively trying to avoid having children with her. 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:38.160 Yep. 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:45.359 And now we see like, oh, I didn't even know that there was climax, let alone that it was something I was supposed to reach. 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:46.000 Yeah. 00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:53.279 So bringing it back to this film, I think that's the wrong hole is meant to be a butt sex joke. 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:53.839 Yeah. 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:56.799 But I also think it could be a urethra. 00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:00.240 Like we know from later in the film that it's not. 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:05.920 If you don't know the parts, like oh, wrong hole. 00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:11.920 There's so much that's unknown if you haven't had a good sex education. 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:20.400 I remember when I was in high school having to explain to one of my guy friends that girls have three holes and not just

two. 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:23.119 And like Hina Stones are like, wait, what? 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:25.759 All right. 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:29.119 I think I think we should do some spy scale. 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:29.759 What do you think? 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:39.519 Welcome to the spy scale, or not so scientific way of rating intimacy scenes based on consent and power dynamics, technical craft and coordination excellence, and heat factor. 00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:42.960 Each category gets a score from one to five, with five being the highest. 00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:46.480 Then we add it all up to give the scene a final letter grade. 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:55.039 We've touched on this a bit already, but let's start with consent and power dynamics, how the scene depicts consent and power in the story, and if known, behind the scenes. 00:24:55.359 --> 00:25:12.480 Well, I read in I think Vanity Fair, Olivia Wilde talking about how she wanted to direct an awkward sex scene, but also she wanted to direct a stimulated sex scene where it was handled the way she wished scenes had been handled for her. 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:16.160 Actually closing set completely. 00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:29.359 And I heard an interview with the two actresses, what with Beanie Feldstein, who plays Molly, and Caitlin Dever that plays Amy, talked about how it felt like a truly closed set and she hadn't always felt that. 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:34.000 Behind the scenes stuff was handled better than it sometimes is. 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:38.720 And certainly to me, the consent in the scene is super clear. 00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:46.160 You know, even though they didn't have an intimacy coordinator, it's still an emerging field and is slowly becoming more and more of an industry standard. 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:59.440 I really appreciate that Olivia made that effort to really close the set because I feel like you can feel it in the performance with how vulnerable the actors were being with each other, the comfort level that was there. 00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:04.400 And it's hard to get that if you don't have the right environment to get those performances. 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:04.960 Yeah. 00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:08.400 And 2019 was very early in the movie. 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:10.400 Yeah, it was just two years after the first one, right? 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:11.200 Absolutely. 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:18.240 And I know that Yehuda Dueñez worked with Olivia Wilde on something recently that went to Sundance. 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.880 Yeah, so she's working with ICs now. 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:25.920 Obviously, the consent in the film itself, very, very clear. 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:27.599 The dynamics are very clear. 00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:31.759 They're really in that same figuring it out kind of at the same pace. 00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:34.240 There's awkwardness, but there's consent. 00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:39.599 There's even what was that one line she says, we can stop if you want, and at one point. 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:47.839 Consent in the other scene is sort of interesting because anyone who jumps in the pool is sort of implying consent in some capacity. 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:49.440 I don't know, for me it's a five. 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:50.640 It's five for me. 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:51.279 Yeah. 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:51.599 Yeah. 00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:52.799 Five for me too. 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:53.440 Yeah. 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:59.519 And I was just thinking too, like Olivia Wilde, her breakout role was on the OC where she played a high schooler. 00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:08.559 It could have been uncomfortable to shoot those scenes, or yeah, it it's so nice that now she can like pay it forward and like give these actors an experience she wasn't able to have before. 00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:09.119 Okay. 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:19.680 Well, let's we're kind of getting into it already, but technical craft, coordination, excellence, the staging, film coverage, modesty, protection, choreography, and overall execution of the scene. 00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:29.440 I do have to say I did see the top of her Amy's buttocks at the very, very last second when she's putting the shirt on, but it's again not in the very sexualized way. 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:31.039 It felt purposeful. 00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:34.000 I actually do have a question about everybody's opinions on this. 00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:48.720 Because while I feel that the choreography is fantastic, really, for the simulated manual stimulation, I don't know that I felt the story, like the story overall was clear, but I didn't really see her arm move very much. 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:50.559 Am I on my own on that? 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:56.240 Well, I don't need her arm to move that much because it wouldn't necessarily need to move in real life. 00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.720 Fingers can be moving without the arm moving. 00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:16.240 I saw the shoulder move to get into place, but I didn't necessarily see was, and I think this happens all the time, and maybe we saw it in other takes, and the take didn't make the cut, but I didn't see Hope's character the moment that touch happened. 00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:18.880 Yes, the point of contact we missed. 00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:20.480 I saw her hand moving down. 00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:30.400 I wasn't as bothered to not have shoulder movements because I feel like we were telling the story of someone like trying to figure out and was a little more hesitant, but yeah, I didn't think there was any penetration. 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.279 No, no, I I don't think they were telling that story. 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:39.680 I'm not saying I need like a top like a whole shoulder roll in order to showcase them what we're looking at. 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:44.000 We know that it was the quote wrong hole because it was stated. 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:55.440 I don't know that it was seen on the

character's face or seen like even with a slight like shift of the shoulder or some kind of elbow movement to initiate that visually. 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:58.960 But modesty protection, definitely in the pool, amazing. 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:01.200 Choreography in the pool was fantastic. 00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:12.079 I think this scene for me was more like a four, just because I think it wasn't one million million percent clear, but I do think that overarchingly it looked really strong. 00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:20.079 I will go here with you that more shoulder movement would have told a clearer story, especially with the wrong hole part. 00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:21.200 The searching. 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:21.680 Yeah. 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:22.319 Yeah. 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:31.519 Also, even just like a slight shift or tensing of hope's shoulders or some just like even just a touch of something to be like. 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:33.680 Like four breath. 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:35.200 Nope, not there. 00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.400 Yeah, you know, could have really sold it, I think, a little more for me. 00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:38.960 Am I? 00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:40.880 I'll I'll go with four. 00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.519 I want it to be a five, but I think you're correct that it's a four. 00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:43.920 Yeah. 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:45.680 Emotionally, I want these all to be five. 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:47.359 Emotionally, it's a five. 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:48.240 Yeah. 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:49.599 Of course. 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:50.640 For sure. 00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:51.279 All right. 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:56.640 Last category: heat factor, the level of erotic charge or sexual tension in the scene. 00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:58.079 As intended. 00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:02.160 I think it's a five in that I think they did what they set out to do. 00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.480 It's not like at the top of sexiness. 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:04.960 Yeah. 00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:07.119 But it wasn't trying to do that. 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:09.440 I might give the pool a four. 00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:20.799 There's one moment where she swims back and we see the back of her pelvis, the underwear's kind of going into the gluteal cleft a little bit, and it felt a little like jarring. 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:26.000 They've now trained the audience to see these bodies in a less sexualized way. 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:33.920 And so then when we do something that feels a little bit more sexualized, even if it was by accident, then all of a sudden it does kind of like surprise you a little bit. 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.839 I did see the underwear starting to shift a little bit. 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:43.680 That didn't bother me so much because I feel like we're looking at an imperfect situation. 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:54.240 But what I will say about the pool scene is that there is a difference between characters feeling awkward and actors feeling awkward. 00:30:54.400 --> 00:31:04.319 And I do feel like the character of Ryan and the semi-faceless man that she was with really seemed tentative to even touch. 00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:05.599 Agreed. 00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:09.920 And it seemed like they didn't even really have a pull to come together. 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:15.519 It seemed like they just were sort of near each other, and the legs even underwater kind of supported that as well. 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.319 So for me, I'm like not sold on the pull one as well. 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:19.200 I feel you. 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:28.720 Then as far as the manual stimulation scene, there was definitely sexual tension, unrealized sexual tension for sure. 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:29.359 Yes. 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.240 Between the two scenes, if we're averaging out, I'm a three. 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:36.160 I would bring it up to a four. 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.960 I feel like I hear you on the hesitancy. 00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:45.039 I read that as the characters being hesitant, like maybe it was their first time being that close to each other. 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:46.799 So I would go down to a four. 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:48.720 I maybe I'm biased emotionally. 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.200 I just don't feel like I can give this movie a three. 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.359 I hear you and I understand. 00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:54.400 Yeah. 00:31:54.960 --> 00:32:02.559 I think maybe the pool scene is an example of if there had been an IC, it might have been done a little better. 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:12.319 So for the director, that's a lot of what we're focused on. 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.519 I'm with you that that story wasn't clear. 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:22.160 I don't know why the two of them started making out or what kind of charge there was between them. 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:31.279 So I would give the pool maybe a 3.5 because I think they mostly did what they set out to do with the fantasticalness. 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:35.759 But then if you really break it down into the technical, it's like, well, no. 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:40.480 Through the body language, we don't know the history of Ryan and Boy. 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:42.960 We don't know the familiarity between them. 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:47.200 We don't know if she did she jumped in the pool and she's like, you, and then they come together. 00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:50.400 We don't know if they're together in outside of the pool. 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:56.559 We are coming from the perspective of Amy, and she doesn't know their level of familiarity either. 00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:58.880 So that also could be very purposeful. 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.640 Ultimately, I like the 3.5 idea. 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:04.079 Um I'll give. 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:05.599 I'll give to the 3.5. 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:06.480 That's okay. 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.599 3.5 to go crazy. 00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:12.720 Heard, and that

lands us at a B. 00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:20.160 B for Book Smart. 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:21.279 B for Booksmart. 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:28.079 Although shocking that Booksmart didn't get it, A being Booksmart as it is. 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.759 I love how we broke it down the way you all do with your spice scale. 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.880 But if we were just looking at like how great is this for queer representation, then it's an A. 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:38.160 Oh, absolutely. 00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:39.279 And it did it so well. 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:47.759 Like these scenes matter because it basically changed how sapphic scenes could look, like with the awkwardness and everything. 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:54.000 It shows how not all sex, not all queer sex is perfect and everyone orgasms every time. 00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:59.839 You know, this proves awkward first hookups are true for everyone and not just the straights. 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:05.200 It was the queer female super bad that I needed when I was that age. 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:06.880 Yes, 100%. 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:15.760 Wait, Brooke, when you watch things as an audience, like are you able to kind of turn off a little bit of the icy brain and just like react? 00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.280 Or do you feel like you still have the icy brain like fully on? 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:21.280 I have the icy brain on. 00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:27.840 Honestly, when I was watching the pool scene, I was thinking, how many towels did we need for this to be? 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:36.400 Because that's always my first thing when there's a scene that involves water, is I go to production and say, we're gonna need a lot of towels. 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:37.039 Yeah. 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.679 We're gonna need as many towels as you want takes. 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:42.159 I just was dealing with this last night. 00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:50.480 We were doing a rain scene and the night before we had done a shower scene, and I was like, we need so many towels because they need a dry towel between every take. 00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:54.639 We can't just keep giving them the same wet towel between because they're gonna get cold. 00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.519 Even if the water is warm, they're gonna get cold so fast. 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.239 And we need more than one robe because their robe is gonna get wet. 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:11.440 The water needs to be heated, which is a question I also ask in all prep work because sometimes it isn't heated, and then no matter how many towels you have, the actors get hypothermia like they did one time on is that I was on. 00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:11.920 Yeah. 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:20.000 Isn't it so amazing though when you're at monitor and the actors do an incredible job and you're like, yes, look at so totally? 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:21.599 Oh my god. 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.159 Yes, the greatest feeling. 00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:31.760 I'm like, ah, you

have to stay quiet, but you're like amazing. 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:34.800 All right, thank you so much for joining us. 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:40.480 I know you have some plugs, possibly a new book you'd like to talk about. 00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:41.920 Sure. 00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:43.840 So I have two books out. 00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.360 I have the Intimacy Coordinator's guidebook that we talked about. 00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:59.599 And then in July uh or August 1st of last year, a history of intimacy professionals and entertainment came out, which was very much my love letter to the industry. 00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:05.920 And I just yesterday got an offer for my third book from a publisher. 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:07.039 So yeah. 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:12.079 I haven't seen crafted it yet, but I will accept an offer for that book soon. 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:13.599 And I'm very excited about it. 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:15.199 That's amazing. 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:16.079 Congratulations. 00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:17.440 We can't wait for it. 00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.000 Well, thank you so much for joining us, Brooke. 00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:21.119 Thanks for taking the time. 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:22.079 We know you're really busy. 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:23.280 It was a pleasure having you. 00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:24.559 We'd love to have you again. 00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:25.840 Thank you for having me. 00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:27.519 This was so fun. 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:33.679 Yay! Happy! I'm so grateful that you were able to share your time with us. 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:35.679 I love getting to know the two of you better. 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.920 You have bring such joy to this podcast. 00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.760 I really appreciate you both, and I hope you have a wonderful evening. 00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:48.159 I love amazing. 00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:49.599 What a lovely human. 00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:53.920 I really felt like they got us. 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:55.039 You know what I mean? 00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:56.960 Like we were all on the same page. 00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.199 We're like queer intimacy coordinators. 00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:00.079 I'm from New York. 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:01.119 They were all actors. 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.519 Like it's just, it's, it was beautiful. 00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.159 I love meeting other intimacy coordinators. 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:10.400 I feel like no matter what our background is or whatever, we can find some common ground. 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:16.079 It's always really nice when you meet someone who you feel like has like a similar approach to the work. 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.519 And they do approach this with so much joy. 00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.480 I loved their choice of book smart. 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.880 I don't think it was something on our list initially. 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:30.320 And then when when it was recommended, we were like, Abso freaking lutely,

this is the greatest. 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:49.599 I really appreciate that they chose the swimming pool scene because I don't know that I would have chosen to discuss that, but I really appreciated them choosing that and having us do that first because it does establish how we're showing young people in a non-sexualized way. 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:53.360 Even though this is a movie where they have sexual experiences. 00:37:53.679 --> 00:38:08.800 Man, could ruin the shit out of the scene, and we just have like all these like slow tilts up the body, and we're in these like lacy push-up bras and tiny underwear, and we're whipping the hair around, you know. 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:11.840 I can't believe we forgot to ruin it again. 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:24.800 If I were to ruin both scenes, just kill all the awkwardness, just only smooth, only chill, and they spit in each other's mouth, which is a thing that happens, I feel like, in almost every queer scene I don't understand. 00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:33.360 All sapphic scenes have like one character spits in the other character's mouth, and they're like, Oh, I haven't been noticing that trend. 00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:36.320 Is that you're gonna see it all the time now? 00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:36.800 Oh my god. 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:38.960 You're gonna see it in everything. 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.079 It is so funny how certain things get trendy. 00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:44.800 Like there was a while where there was a lot of choking. 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:46.719 Now there's a lot of like fingers in the mouth. 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:49.360 Fingers in the mouth is happening in a lot of intimate scenes. 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:50.480 All the time. 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:51.760 Like finger in the mouth. 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.840 Sometimes it's stuffed on, sometimes it's not, but it's always like there's a lot of hands in mouths. 00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:57.360 And I'm like, Sometimes it's just there. 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:07.280 Or just like finger goes across the lip, or finger like pulls the lip down, or or they brush their teeth with the finger. 00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.679 Nothing sexier than that. 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:12.559 Anyway. 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:12.960 Yeah. 00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.679 Thank you so much for listening to faking it. 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.440 This episode's research and context was done by me, Arielle. 00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.920 You invite us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcasts. 00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:27.119 New episodes drop every other hump day, Wednesday. 00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:33.760 If this was good for you, the best way to support our show is to follow the podcast and leave a quick rating or review. 00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:36.960 It takes less than 30 seconds and it really helps us. 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:43.599 For example, we have a new review from Since Sliced Bread 7422. 00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:46.800 They said, This is my first time here. 00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:50.320 I love your insightful analysis and sheer joy for your job. 00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:51.920 Smiley Face, smiley face. 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.320 Thank you, Since Sliced Bread. 00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:55.280 Thank you. 00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:03.119 Not only do the reviews bring us so much joy, but they help us break through the algorithm. 00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:07.599 You can also tell one friend who loves spicy movie secrets about us. 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.800 Find us on social media at faking it the pod. 00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:14.239 I know you're asking yourself, hey, how do I get involved? 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:18.400 Let me tell you, you can head to patreon.com slash faking it the pod. 00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.920 For just one dollar, you can request scenes for us to break down. 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:26.320 For$10, you get bonus content and never before scene footage. 00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.760 And for$5, you get a shout-out like these beautiful listeners. 00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:31.920 Thank you, Lee, and Kiki Brown. 00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:36.800 This episode was produced by Erie Lee Cohen, social media and branding by Morgan Smith. 00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:40.960 Our new theme song is faking it by my guests. 00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:44.480 Thank you, Mike, for guessing us that new theme song. 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.960 Yeah! Yeah. 00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:48.559 Dad jokes. 00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:49.679 Dad jokes. 00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:54.239 Credits for the film where show we reacted to are in the episode caption. 00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:56.320 Stay real, fakers. 00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:57.199 Woo!