התמלול המלא של Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell Looks To Move Jurisdiction's In A Civil Suit

how to make moves under the radar and how 35 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:12.379 to manipulate this system so that it conforms to their ideals, well, 36 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:15.300 you have some dangerous people, folks. And that's what we 37 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:17.740 were dealing with with Jeffrey Epstein and we're still dealing 38 00:02:17.780 --> 00:02:21.669 with with Ghislaine Maxwell. There's a reason the trust, the 39 00:02:21.669 --> 00:02:24.810 1953 trust of Jeffrey Epstein was done in the Virgin Islands. 40 00:02:25.210 --> 00:02:28.689 And there's a reason that Zorro Ranch was done and 41 00:02:28.750 --> 00:02:34.469 located in New Mexico. And I should say, there's more 42 00:02:34.509 --> 00:02:37.169 than one reason, honestly, with New Mexico, in my opinion. 43 00:02:37.830 --> 00:02:39.810 And we've went over a lot of that stuff here. 44 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:42.099 I've talked about New Mexico a whole lot here on 45 00:02:42.139 --> 00:02:45.840 this podcast, especially considering I had the trip down there. 46 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:48.539 But I told you all then, and I stand by 47 00:02:48.580 --> 00:02:51.530 it now. There is a story still to be told 48 00:02:51.629 --> 00:02:54.729 out of New Mexico, and we have only scratched the 49 00:02:54.770 --> 00:02:59.080 surface down there. Let's remember, Zorro Ranch still has not 50 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:04.120 been raided. Now, I've said on the podcast here several 51 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:07.379 times that I did not believe that Ghislaine Maxwell is 52 00:03:07.500 --> 00:03:10.219 in America. I thought that that would be almost impossible 53 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:13.580 at this point, considering the private investigators that are looking 54 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:16.840 for her, etc., etc. I figured that she would be 55 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:21.240 hiding somewhere else. But in this article tonight, they bring 56 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:25.159 up the question, is Ghislaine Maxwell hiding out at Zorro Ranch? 57 00:03:25.620 --> 00:03:28.020 And I've had some people email me and ask me that, 58 00:03:28.060 --> 00:03:31.139 what my opinion was of that. And I, you know, 59 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:34.719 to be honest with you, my gut says no, but 60 00:03:34.860 --> 00:03:37.340 these people love to hide in plain sight, right? They've 61 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:40.419 been brazen with their operations and their activity from the 62 00:03:40.460 --> 00:03:44.370 very beginning, throwing it in civilizations and I should say 63 00:03:44.409 --> 00:03:49.259 society's face because these people don't care. They believe... That 64 00:03:49.379 --> 00:03:52.560 with the power of their friends in the media and 65 00:03:52.740 --> 00:03:55.780 the enormous wealth that they have, that they'll be able 66 00:03:55.819 --> 00:03:58.759 to control the narrative and turn it whichever way that 67 00:03:58.819 --> 00:04:04.530 they deem fit. Now, that's over. They can't do that 68 00:04:04.610 -->

00:04:09.129 anymore because information is coming fast and furious from several locations. 69 00:04:09.740 --> 00:04:12.680 But we have to remember the people we're dealing with here, folks. 70 00:04:12.740 --> 00:04:16.069 We have to remember just how devious they are. And 71 00:04:16.110 --> 00:04:19.029 we have to remember the company that they kept. I mean, 72 00:04:19.050 --> 00:04:23.800 these people were hanging out with guys like Ehud Barak. 73 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:28.800 We know who he was. We know what his background is. 74 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.480 And we know that he's a serious player when it 75 00:04:31.540 --> 00:04:35.620 comes to Israeli intelligence and military. And we also know 76 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:39.379 that Jeffrey Epstein was locked in with the intelligence agency 77 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:43.680 here in America, considering what Acosta said on record to 78 00:04:43.699 --> 00:04:46.810 the Trump transition team. Now you add all of that 79 00:04:46.949 --> 00:04:52.329 up and you understand that these aren't your run-of-the-mill child traffickers, coyotes, 80 00:04:52.470 --> 00:04:55.769 or people that came up with some harebrained idea that 81 00:04:55.790 --> 00:04:58.790 they're going to start a brothel. This is way more 82 00:04:58.850 --> 00:05:03.120 elaborate than all of that. This is way, way, way 83 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:05.639 more elaborate than all of that. This is not just 84 00:05:05.740 --> 00:05:09.019 a trafficking ring. It is that, obviously. But there was 85 00:05:09.060 --> 00:05:11.199 a lot of other layers here. There were a lot 86 00:05:11.220 --> 00:05:14.790 of financial crimes going on. And like I've said from... 87 00:05:15.709 --> 00:05:18.310 for a long time now, in my humble opinion, a 88 00:05:18.589 --> 00:05:22.189 ton of espionage and a ton of scientific secrets being 89 00:05:22.269 --> 00:05:25.449 passed off to Lord knows who. I don't have direct 90 00:05:25.569 --> 00:05:29.189 evidence saying where this stuff ended up, so I'll never 91 00:05:29.250 --> 00:05:31.629 come on here and state for a fact, oh, it 92 00:05:31.709 --> 00:05:34.089 ended up in this person's hands. But I will tell 93 00:05:34.129 --> 00:05:37.449 you this, it certainly ended up with people who should 94 00:05:37.490 --> 00:05:39.930 not have had it, in my opinion. There's no doubt 95 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:44.740 that Epstein was passing on information from these scientific projects 96 00:05:44.779 --> 00:05:48.319 to whoever his handlers were. And we can go on 97 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:51.399 for days and speculate about just exactly who those people were. 98 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:58.170 But it is obvious to me that Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, 99 00:05:58.490 --> 00:06:03.110 and this whole entire operation was not a run-of-the-mill child 100 00:06:03.509 --> 00:06:08.769 trafficking organization or just trafficking organization. This was much, much, 101 00:06:08.930 --> 00:06:14.170 much

more It was way, way refined. It was almost 102 00:06:14.230 --> 00:06:17.410 like they had a blueprint to build a home and 103 00:06:17.470 --> 00:06:21.290 went in and followed that blueprint perfectly. And when you're 104 00:06:21.310 --> 00:06:25.230 dealing with the people that these people were dealing with, 105 00:06:25.370 --> 00:06:29.800 talking about whoever their handlers were, you know that these 106 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.379 are serious people and these are people who always have 107 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:36.300 some sort of a plan wrapped within a plan and 108 00:06:36.379 --> 00:06:39.519 contingency plans, et cetera, et cetera. That's the way they operate. 109 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:45.079 So when everything's rolling smooth for them, when they have 110 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:48.100 everything going correctly, when they have their ducks in a row, 111 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:51.759 it is almost impossible to air them out because of 112 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.290 the cover that is laid by their lapdogs in the 113 00:06:54.350 --> 00:06:57.529 legacy media and the fact that people are so gaslit 114 00:06:57.769 --> 00:07:01.189 that they still to this day believe the legacy media 115 00:07:01.329 --> 00:07:04.670 when they're running bullshit at them. And look, this isn't 116 00:07:04.709 --> 00:07:06.550 a Trump thing for me either when I say this, 117 00:07:06.610 --> 00:07:08.629 by the way, folks. So don't get it twisted. I 118 00:07:08.689 --> 00:07:11.040 am not a fan of Trump. And to be honest 119 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:13.500 with you, I'm not a fan of any politician at 120 00:07:13.540 --> 00:07:16.980 this point in this country. But what the FBI and 121 00:07:17.019 --> 00:07:21.019 James Comey and the FISA abuses, all of that stuff, 122 00:07:21.339 --> 00:07:23.579 that all goes hand in hand with what we talk 123 00:07:23.620 --> 00:07:28.720 about here with the rampant corruption in our intelligence agencies. 124 00:07:29.379 --> 00:07:31.899 If they're brazen enough to try to pull that off, 125 00:07:32.290 --> 00:07:34.079 you know that they don't give a shit about trying 126 00:07:34.110 --> 00:07:36.430 to put you or I in jail, right? They don't 127 00:07:36.470 --> 00:07:41.199 give a damn about any of us. So my problem 128 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:45.759 is with any sort of out-of-control intelligence agency, I'm going 129 00:07:45.790 --> 00:07:48.550 to speak up about it when I see them acting incorrectly. 130 00:07:49.310 --> 00:07:54.250 And there's plenty of ways to slam Trump. And there 131 00:07:54.290 --> 00:07:57.329 were plenty of correct routes to go. The financials from 132 00:07:57.370 --> 00:08:00.870 Deutsche Bank, etc., etc. There were plenty of correct routes 133 00:08:00.930 --> 00:08:02.910 that they could have went and they could have looked 134 00:08:02.930 --> 00:08:08.399 to expose him for being involved in criminalistic activity. But instead... 135 00:08:08.420 --> 00:08:12.779 They chose to attempt to create this whole entire fiasco. 136 00:08:15.220 --> 00:08:18.480 And people bought it. And all of the people that 137 00:08:18.540 --> 00:08:24.610 bought it, they're so disappointed at this point. about the 138 00:08:24.730 --> 00:08:28.410 outcome that they're not willing to believe that they were 139 00:08:28.449 --> 00:08:33.210 gaslit or that the FBI or the intelligence agencies are 140 00:08:33.250 --> 00:08:35.740 so devious that they would do this. Folks, they would. 141 00:08:36.139 --> 00:08:38.799 And I don't blame people for being gaslit because as 142 00:08:38.860 --> 00:08:43.779 I've explained previously, I've been gaslit myself before during the 143 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:49.230 Iraq war. I totally bought into all of that sorry ass, 144 00:08:49.549 --> 00:08:53.169 weak ass, false sense of patriotism that they were pushing 145 00:08:53.269 --> 00:08:58.389 on us. Not understanding that I was being gaslit and 146 00:08:58.429 --> 00:09:01.470 dog walked the whole entire time. But after that happened, 147 00:09:01.950 --> 00:09:04.389 after I figured it all out and I grew up 148 00:09:04.429 --> 00:09:06.799 a little bit, I had some more life experience, I 149 00:09:06.860 --> 00:09:09.820 promised that I would never be gaslit again by anybody. 150 00:09:10.940 --> 00:09:14.919 So I see the same thing happening with people over Russia. 151 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:17.980 There's a lot of people who bought into that at first, 152 00:09:18.019 --> 00:09:22.379 who are totally understanding now that a lot of it 153 00:09:22.460 --> 00:09:27.029 is contrived, made up BS. And it's bad news when 154 00:09:27.049 --> 00:09:31.600 the intelligence agencies are engaging in stuff like this. Because 155 00:09:31.620 --> 00:09:36.039 it is just, it is unchecked power for intelligence agencies 156 00:09:36.220 --> 00:09:39.960 never ends up well for the citizens, ever. And for 157 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:43.259 more on that, I would always suggest that people check 158 00:09:43.379 --> 00:09:46.700 out the work of Aaron Maté and Glenn Greenwald, because 159 00:09:46.740 --> 00:09:49.480 they're fantastic when it comes to this sort of thing. 160 00:09:49.980 --> 00:09:53.240 And they're certainly not conservatives, folks, or Republicans, and they 161 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:56.779 do not like Trump. But when you're a journalist and 162 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:00.600 you're somebody who calls calls things out because. you see 163 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.720 them as they are, then you have to be consistent 164 00:10:03.779 --> 00:10:08.090 about it. And there are certain people, certain investigative journalists 165 00:10:08.139 --> 00:10:10.350 that still do that kind of work. And it's a 166 00:10:10.370 --> 00:10:13.889 good thing, because when you look at the whole entire 167 00:10:13.950 --> 00:10:17.909 picture of our intelligence services and especially you look at 168 00:10:17.950 --> 00:10:20.899 the cover of they gave

for Jeffrey Epstein and his 169 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:27.009 organization for so long, it is mind-numbing, mind-numbing to think 170 00:10:27.470 --> 00:10:30.779 that these people have gotten away with this for as 171 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:34.620 long as they have gotten away with it. I just, I, 172 00:10:35.379 --> 00:10:38.559 you know, maybe if the FBI wasn't so busy trying 173 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:42.759 to frame people and trying to play politics and get 174 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:45.789 involved in nonsense that they really have no business even 175 00:10:45.830 --> 00:10:48.110 being involved in, they could have focused a little bit 176 00:10:48.169 --> 00:10:50.929 more on bringing these scumbags down. And that's another thing 177 00:10:50.950 --> 00:10:53.070 that bothers me. We've had all of these hearings in 178 00:10:53.110 --> 00:10:55.669 front of Congress for all of this stuff about Ukraine, 179 00:10:55.740 --> 00:10:58.360 et cetera, et cetera. Where's the hearings for these girls? 180 00:10:58.779 --> 00:11:01.860 And that's both sides of the aisle, right? Believe me 181 00:11:01.899 --> 00:11:05.659 when I tell you, folks, I have zero love for 182 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:08.240 any politician at this point. None of them. I don't 183 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:10.879 support any of them. I don't endorse any of them 184 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:15.070 for office. And going forward, I highly doubt that I'll 185 00:11:15.169 --> 00:11:17.929 ever endorse another politician ever again as long as I 186 00:11:17.970 --> 00:11:21.909 live because they have all been nothing but pathetic failures, 187 00:11:21.970 --> 00:11:27.360 in my opinion. So... When we see what's going on 188 00:11:27.419 --> 00:11:31.659 with the FBI and we see the way that the 189 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.139 Congress and the Senate has conducted themselves with their petty 190 00:11:35.220 --> 00:11:38.019 tribalism for the past few years, when they could have 191 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:40.929 been doing real work, they could have convened a hearing 192 00:11:41.070 --> 00:11:43.629 and brought in people and got them under oath in 193 00:11:43.690 --> 00:11:47.169 regards to this Jeffrey Epstein situation. That goes for federal 194 00:11:47.269 --> 00:11:50.070 agents and everybody else in between. But no, they were 195 00:11:50.090 --> 00:11:53.590 too busy screwing off, trying to consolidate their power some more. 196 00:11:54.149 --> 00:11:56.129 And if you want to be skeptical, I mean, if 197 00:11:56.169 --> 00:11:58.549 you want to be a cynic, I mean, well, a 198 00:11:58.610 --> 00:12:00.009 lot of it had to do with the fact that 199 00:12:00.029 --> 00:12:03.480 they didn't want to expose their friends, both sides of 200 00:12:03.529 --> 00:12:05.919 the aisle. Because again, I don't know how many times 201 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:07.740 I have to say this. There are no good guys 202 00:12:07.779 --> 00:12:11.340 in this case, folks. There are no white knights that 203 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:15.100 are running to anyone's rescue in this case when it 204 00:12:15.139 --> 00:12:17.610 comes to the government and the officials surrounding this case. 205 00:12:18.230 --> 00:12:20.570 The only people that I will throw that title on 206 00:12:20.899 --> 00:12:23.360 that have been involved in this case are people like 207 00:12:23.399 --> 00:12:28.720 Bradley Edwards and obviously the survivors themselves are legendary. They 208 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:32.399 have legendary bravery in my opinion. To come forward in 209 00:12:32.419 --> 00:12:35.740 the climate that they came forward in before people were 210 00:12:36.100 --> 00:12:38.940 aware of what was going on, myself included, I've been 211 00:12:38.980 --> 00:12:41.179 awake at the switch for a long time. I had 212 00:12:41.230 --> 00:12:44.129 no idea this sort of thing was occurring. My focuses 213 00:12:44.169 --> 00:12:50.500 were elsewhere. Basically, mainly government corruption. And when you find 214 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:53.879 out what's really going on, what's truly happening behind the curtain, 215 00:12:54.379 --> 00:12:59.759 the anger and the disappointment you feel for your own 216 00:12:59.850 --> 00:13:03.169 government and for the institutions that you were told were 217 00:13:04.169 --> 00:13:08.370 so honorable and so great and the gaslighting of the 218 00:13:08.409 --> 00:13:11.740 American public and the programming of the American public is just, 219 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:14.820 it's beyond the pale at this point. and we need 220 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:18.200 to have some accountability at places like the FBI. There 221 00:13:18.220 --> 00:13:21.980 needs to be accountability at places like the CIA, and 222 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:25.840 there certainly needs to be accountability for anybody who was 223 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:30.480 involved with Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell. All right, so 224 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:33.759 let's jump into this article. This article is from the 225 00:13:33.850 --> 00:13:38.519 Daily Mail, and the headline is, Is Ghislaine Maxwell hiding 226 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:42.830 out at Jeffrey Epstein's Zorro Ranch? New court documents reveal 227 00:13:42.870 --> 00:13:46.309 she's requesting Annie Farmer's civil case be moved to New Mexico, 228 00:13:46.610 --> 00:13:51.429 where the 16-year-old was sexually assaulted. This article was authored 229 00:13:51.490 --> 00:13:58.950 by Cheyenne Roundtree and Karen Ruiz. Jeffrey Epstein's alleged madam, co-conspirator, 230 00:13:59.250 --> 00:14:01.950 Ghislaine Maxwell, has asked a federal judge to move a 231 00:14:02.029 --> 00:14:05.049 civil case brought by one of the pedophile's victims to 232 00:14:05.110 --> 00:14:10.299 New Mexico to according to court papers obtained by DailyMail.com. Well, 233 00:14:10.340 --> 00:14:13.840 not just a victim of Jeffrey Epstein, a victim of 234 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.820 Ghislaine Maxwell, too.

Let's remember what she's saying here, and 235 00:14:16.860 --> 00:14:20.340 let's remember that Ghislaine Maxwell was a part of this, right? 236 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:23.679 Let's not pussyfoot around it. What are they so worried about? 237 00:14:23.730 --> 00:14:27.190 Ghislaine Maxwell suing them? Then she has to end up 238 00:14:27.269 --> 00:14:29.330 at discovery phase, and we know she doesn't want to 239 00:14:29.350 --> 00:14:32.129 be at discovery phase just from her actions alone here. 240 00:14:33.429 --> 00:14:36.529 So people, you know, the publications really need to quit 241 00:14:36.570 --> 00:14:39.710 screwing around with their words and call Ghislaine Maxwell what 242 00:14:39.769 --> 00:14:42.649 she is. It's not like there's one person accusing her 243 00:14:42.690 --> 00:14:46.889 of this either. There are witness upon witness that has 244 00:14:46.929 --> 00:14:49.700 come forward talking about Ghislaine Maxwell and what she did 245 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:52.559 while she was with Jeffrey Epstein as one of the 246 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:57.940 heads of that criminal enterprise. Maxwell made the request in 247 00:14:57.980 --> 00:15:00.519 legal papers filed in the Southern District of New York 248 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:04.899 last Thursday raising new questions about Maxwell's whereabouts. And this 249 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:07.919 is what I was talking about in the opening statement there. 250 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:11.779 She could definitely be at Zorro Ranch, right? I can't 251 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:14.250 say for a fact that she's not. I don't know. 252 00:15:14.649 --> 00:15:16.590 I only got to the gate. When I got to 253 00:15:16.610 --> 00:15:20.149 the gate, there nobody came. I was there for 45 minutes. 254 00:15:20.169 --> 00:15:24.360 I was knocking where the cameras are, hanging out. Nobody 255 00:15:24.389 --> 00:15:27.799 showed up. I didn't see any movement, no activity on 256 00:15:27.820 --> 00:15:31.019 the property whatsoever. I didn't see any cars driving around. 257 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:34.139 And from where you're at at the front gate, you 258 00:15:34.179 --> 00:15:37.649 get a good look at those buildings. right? Those other 259 00:15:37.690 --> 00:15:43.710 structures for like farmhands and I guess guest houses, et cetera, 260 00:15:43.750 --> 00:15:46.690 et cetera. So I was there for 45 minutes and 261 00:15:46.850 --> 00:15:50.669 I did not see one single person. Now, I didn't 262 00:15:50.700 --> 00:15:54.399 have a view of the main mansion and there's a 263 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:57.399 lot of talk about the tunnel system below there. So 264 00:15:57.500 --> 00:16:01.899 could Ghislaine Maxwell be at Zorro Ranch? It is quite possible. Look, 265 00:16:01.940 --> 00:16:05.330 I'm not going to say no. I don't know one 266 00:16:05.350 --> 00:16:07.549 way or the other for sure, but if I was 267 00:16:07.590 --> 00:16:09.629 going to hide, that would certainly be a place that 268 00:16:09.669 --> 00:16:15.409 I would think about hiding 100%, especially considering the political 269 00:16:15.500 --> 00:16:18.759 protection that was afforded to Jeffrey Epstein there for so long. 270 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:23.700 You know, it is the type of political protection that 271 00:16:23.740 --> 00:16:26.139 these people love to have in their back pocket as 272 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:31.330 an ace up the sleeve, because I think Elaine understands 273 00:16:31.350 --> 00:16:34.259 that that the walls are closing in. And even in 274 00:16:34.299 --> 00:16:37.440 a place as corrupt as New York, there is more 275 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:40.730 justice to be found than there is in New Mexico, 276 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:44.370 in my opinion, because we know that Zorro Ranch has 277 00:16:44.529 --> 00:16:48.389 still not been raided even. So is she there? I 278 00:16:49.049 --> 00:16:52.620 don't know. Is it possible? For sure. Do I think 279 00:16:52.649 --> 00:16:55.659 it's more possible her being there than some chateau in France? 280 00:16:56.100 --> 00:17:01.960 For sure. When I start to think about it, it 281 00:17:02.019 --> 00:17:04.640 seemed like it would be too obvious at first. But 282 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:07.019 when I start to think about it, it's quite possible 283 00:17:07.059 --> 00:17:10.329 that she is there. And I don't have, again, I 284 00:17:10.529 --> 00:17:13.849 don't have any evidence that points me that direction, but 285 00:17:13.930 --> 00:17:18.930 it is certainly a possibility that she is at Zorro Ranch. 286 00:17:18.990 --> 00:17:22.069 Considering that property, the more I think about it and 287 00:17:22.130 --> 00:17:24.269 the more I think about how big the place is 288 00:17:24.289 --> 00:17:26.650 and how easy it would be to hide away from 289 00:17:26.690 --> 00:17:32.980 prying eyes, It is quite possible, folks, quite possible. Annie Farmer, 290 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:36.940 who claims Maxwell and Epstein sexually assaulted her age 16 291 00:17:36.940 --> 00:17:41.599 at the disgraced financier pedophiles' New Mexico ranch, is seeking 292 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:47.509 damages from Maxwell and Epstein's $ 635 million estate. Yeah, damages 293 00:17:47.569 --> 00:17:50.450 for sure. Back up the Brinks truck. All right, fill 294 00:17:50.470 --> 00:17:52.609 it up with money, back it up, and go and 295 00:17:52.650 --> 00:17:55.049 dump it on Annie's front lawn. That's what she deserves 296 00:17:55.089 --> 00:17:59.240 from these monsters. What happened to Annie is absolutely abhorrent. 297 00:17:59.579 --> 00:18:02.839 What these two animals did, these two monsters did to 298 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:05.740 this young girl, 16 years old, folks, can you imagine? 299 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:10.200 Think back to when you were 16. And these two 300 00:18:10.380 --> 00:18:15.549 monsters assaulted her the way they did. And to think 301 00:18:15.789 --> 00:18:18.490 that they would try, Glenn Maxwell would

try and get 302 00:18:18.509 --> 00:18:25.170 this case moved to New Mexico. I said just recently, 303 00:18:25.529 --> 00:18:30.740 I was wondering why The New Mexico district attorney didn't 304 00:18:30.779 --> 00:18:33.539 have a case opened in New Mexico. He's been punting 305 00:18:33.619 --> 00:18:36.920 everything to New York. And now, Ghislaine Maxwell and her 306 00:18:36.980 --> 00:18:39.049 legal team are going to try and muddy the waters 307 00:18:39.089 --> 00:18:41.710 some more and start the whole process over by getting 308 00:18:41.750 --> 00:18:45.309 it kicked down to court in New Mexico. I really 309 00:18:45.349 --> 00:18:48.650 hope the judge sees this for what it is. I really, really, 310 00:18:48.730 --> 00:18:50.849 really hope the judge sees this for what it is. 311 00:18:51.190 --> 00:18:55.079 Because guess what? Annie Farmer, all of these ladies, all 312 00:18:55.099 --> 00:18:59.130 of these girls... who were abused and assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein, 313 00:18:59.349 --> 00:19:01.710 should have a Brinks truck back up to their front 314 00:19:01.750 --> 00:19:04.609 lawn and dump bags of money onto their front lawn. 315 00:19:05.190 --> 00:19:07.779 Because even with all that money, even with Epstein's whole 316 00:19:07.819 --> 00:19:10.589 entire fortune going to them, it still is not going 317 00:19:10.609 --> 00:19:12.769 to make up for what happened to them. It still 318 00:19:12.809 --> 00:19:17.670 doesn't fill in those cracks of their life from what 319 00:19:17.710 --> 00:19:21.769 they suffered and how they suffered throughout their youth, their teens, 320 00:19:21.829 --> 00:19:25.240 their best years stolen from them because these monsters were 321 00:19:25.299 --> 00:19:29.279 allowed to operate right under the nose of the pathetic, 322 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:37.369 weak-ass intelligence services of the United States of America. But 323 00:19:37.430 --> 00:19:40.410 Maxwell argues that Farmer, who is now 40, has brought 324 00:19:40.470 --> 00:19:42.700 up her complaint years too late and it should be 325 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:46.039 thrown out. No, no. The only thing that should be 326 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:50.180 thrown out is your request and your freedom, Ghislaine. And 327 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:54.059 the only requests you should be making are from a 328 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:59.180 jail cell wearing a jumper. And if me, I drop 329 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:04.309 your ass off at Guantanamo because you're as foul as 330 00:20:04.369 --> 00:20:08.529 one of these terrorists. You're a disgusting, despicable excuse for 331 00:20:08.549 --> 00:20:13.019 a human being, in my opinion. To bolster her argument, 332 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:15.839 Maxwell points out that the alleged assault is said to 333 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.160 have occurred in New Mexico, so if the case were 334 00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:22.900 to proceed, it should be transferred there. More games. More gamesmanship. 335 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:27.480 These people love to play games like this. They love 336 00:20:27.769 --> 00:20:30.710 to make moves like this. They love to muddy the waters. 337 00:20:30.769 --> 00:20:33.809 They love to obfuscate. They love to drag their feet. 338 00:20:34.150 --> 00:20:38.730 And our disgusting-ass justice system is set up perfectly for them. 339 00:20:39.250 --> 00:20:42.509 So they can maneuver their way through loopholes and litigate 340 00:20:42.549 --> 00:20:46.170 cases until normal people can't pay a single dollar more. 341 00:20:48.170 --> 00:20:50.609 But guess what? They ran into their match this time 342 00:20:50.930 --> 00:20:54.430 because Annie's lawyers and the lawyers for the survivors aren't 343 00:20:54.470 --> 00:20:56.720 going to back down. They're not going to be bullied 344 00:20:56.920 --> 00:20:59.380 and they're not going to be intimidated by this sort 345 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:03.319 of litigation. They're going to stand their ground and they're 346 00:21:03.339 --> 00:21:06.200 going to fight back. And guess what? When all is 347 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:09.000 said and done, folks, they're going to win. When it 348 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:11.779 comes to these damages, the Epstein estate is going to 349 00:21:11.819 --> 00:21:15.240 be wiped out, clean wiped out by the damages they 350 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:17.619 have to pay out. That is my prediction. And I 351 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:22.680 don't make many of those, by the way. The filing 352 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:25.259 comes as Maxwell has largely been a ghost since Epstein's 353 00:21:25.299 --> 00:21:30.079 arrest last summer. As questions about where she is continue 354 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:36.380 to follow the British socialite, co-conspirator, child abuser, et cetera, 355 00:21:36.420 --> 00:21:40.109 et cetera. Not socialite, all right? She's not a socialite anymore. 356 00:21:40.369 --> 00:21:43.769 She lost that title if she ever had it. Maxwell 357 00:21:43.809 --> 00:21:46.269 was seen in public just once since Epstein was arrested 358 00:21:46.329 --> 00:21:50.690 last summer after DailyMail.com exclusively tracked her down to the 359 00:21:50.730 --> 00:21:56.259 small coastal town of Manchester-by-the-Sea in Massachusetts. And I tried 360 00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:59.099 to follow that a little bit further. I have a 361 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:01.799 couple of friends in Massachusetts, but unfortunately they were never 362 00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:05.160 able to provide me with any sort of concrete leads 363 00:22:05.259 --> 00:22:09.359 about if she was there or not. I know that 364 00:22:09.420 --> 00:22:12.900 the Daily Mail reported that she was, but again, I'm 365 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:15.900 very skeptical about anything when it comes to Ghislaine Maxwell 366 00:22:16.220 --> 00:22:19.670 and anything short of a documented image at this point. 367 00:22:20.190 --> 00:22:23.970 And I'm going to remain skeptical because when you hold 368

00:22:24.009 --> 00:22:26.910 the keys to the bodies, to where the bodies are buried, 369 00:22:26.950 --> 00:22:29.579 and you know where all the skeletons are buried, well, 370 00:22:30.380 --> 00:22:33.579 you're a very dangerous person for these people. And there 371 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:40.299 is a lot a lot of gamesmanship going on. So 372 00:22:40.460 --> 00:22:42.680 I'm very skeptical with anything that has to do with 373 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:46.789 Ghislaine Maxwell. She had been staying at the home of 374 00:22:46.829 --> 00:22:49.789 her boyfriend. Her sister, who lives in Texas, was later 375 00:22:49.849 --> 00:22:54.349 seen in the area packing up bags. So was she 376 00:22:54.369 --> 00:22:56.170 there or was it a game they were playing? A 377 00:22:56.210 --> 00:23:00.410 more throw-you-off-the-scent kind of game. I don't know, one way 378 00:23:00.450 --> 00:23:02.109 or the other, she might have been there, right? She 379 00:23:02.150 --> 00:23:04.970 might have been there. But me, I'm going to remain 380 00:23:05.009 --> 00:23:09.980 skeptical when we're dealing with this disgusting, vile woman. But 381 00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:13.640 an image was released of Maxwell in California eating at 382 00:23:13.660 --> 00:23:17.859 an In-N-Out location shortly after DailyMail.com revealed that she had 383 00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:20.759 been staying in Massachusetts. There you go. See what I mean? 384 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:24.329 Always games. There's always a plan wrapped within a plan, 385 00:23:24.369 --> 00:23:27.329 wrapped within a plot with these people. And if you're 386 00:23:27.369 --> 00:23:30.210 not reading between the lines, if you're not looking four 387 00:23:30.259 --> 00:23:33.180 moves ahead while you're playing chess against them, you will 388 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:37.920 be obliterated. Because while you're playing checkers, these people are 389 00:23:37.940 --> 00:23:43.769 playing 4D chess. Ever since Maxwell's whereabouts have been largely unknown, 390 00:23:44.130 --> 00:23:46.670 but she had spent long periods of time at Epstein's 391 00:23:46.690 --> 00:23:50.789 Zorro Ranch during their years together. Farmersuit claims that in 392 00:23:50.809 --> 00:23:55.210 the spring of 1996, Maxwell touched Farmer's intimate parts against 393 00:23:55.250 --> 00:23:58.349 her will during a massage at Epstein's ranch and exposed 394 00:23:58.390 --> 00:24:03.329 her breasts to Farmer. Remember, Annie was 16 years old 395 00:24:03.369 --> 00:24:07.970 when this happened. A 16-year-old girl that was at this ranch. 396 00:24:10.410 --> 00:24:13.799 And these people... abused her the way they did, they 397 00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:17.220 assaulted her the way they did, and Ghislaine Maxwell has 398 00:24:17.259 --> 00:24:21.819 the audacity to request anything from the court system? She 399 00:24:21.859 --> 00:24:24.680 has the audacity to try and get this case kicked 400 00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:31.859 to New Mexico? Furthermore, we could alleviate all of that 401 00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:36.970 real quick, Mr. Berman, by slapping her with federal RICO charges. 402 00:24:38.779 --> 00:24:41.859 Then it falls under the federal umbrella, where the charges 403 00:24:42.220 --> 00:24:47.269 are much more severe. Why that has not occurred yet, folks, 404 00:24:47.470 --> 00:24:50.170 I do not have the answer for you. But I 405 00:24:50.210 --> 00:24:53.529 will tell you this. If they drop a RICO charge 406 00:24:53.609 --> 00:24:56.730 on her, this will end all of the BS that 407 00:24:56.779 --> 00:25:01.569 we're seeing from Ghislaine Maxwell and her defense team. In 408 00:25:01.630 --> 00:25:04.930 court papers from last week, Maxwell's lawyer states that Farmer's 409 00:25:04.950 --> 00:25:08.970 complaint is years too late, lacks the required specificity, and 410 00:25:09.029 --> 00:25:11.880 is filed in the wrong court. Again, not that it 411 00:25:11.910 --> 00:25:15.619 didn't happen. It's never that it didn't happen because Ghislaine 412 00:25:15.660 --> 00:25:19.200 Maxwell knows damn sure that this happened. She knows that 413 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:21.579 this happened and she knows that Annie is telling the truth. 414 00:25:21.900 --> 00:25:23.960 And she knows that Annie and Maria have both been 415 00:25:23.980 --> 00:25:30.390 telling the truth since the very beginning. The filing adds, 416 00:25:30.569 --> 00:25:33.750 it describes events that allegedly occurred nearly three decades ago, 417 00:25:34.130 --> 00:25:37.839 and it details alleged conduct by Mr. Epstein while referring 418 00:25:37.859 --> 00:25:41.180 to Ms. Maxwell as an afterthought. When the complaint does 419 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.680 allege conduct by Ms. Maxwell, it alleges conduct that occurred 420 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:48.720 in New Mexico, not New York. This court, therefore, should 421 00:25:48.740 --> 00:25:51.769 dismiss the complaint or transfer the case against Ms. Maxwell 422 00:25:52.029 --> 00:25:54.910 to the District of New Mexico. And both of those 423 00:25:54.930 --> 00:25:58.109 would be a huge win for Ghislaine Maxwell. A huge win. 424 00:25:58.690 --> 00:26:02.640 for Ghislaine Maxwell, considering the lax laws in New Mexico 425 00:26:02.940 --> 00:26:05.660 and considering that the process would have to start all 426 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:09.849 over once again. Why in the world would any judge 427 00:26:10.329 --> 00:26:14.109 agree to this? Why in the world would her defense 428 00:26:14.130 --> 00:26:17.599 team even try this move? There is zero doubt in 429 00:26:17.619 --> 00:26:19.559 my mind that the judge is going to laugh at 430 00:26:19.579 --> 00:26:22.299 this request. Considering the judge has had to chase her 431 00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:25.039 down so many times in this case, considering she had 432 00:26:25.059 --> 00:26:28.400 to get served via email, I highly doubt that the 433 00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:31.950 judge is going to be wanting

to deal with any 434 00:26:32.009 --> 00:26:38.789 of Ghislaine Maxwell's BS. Highly doubt it. Maxwell's lawyer states 435 00:26:38.829 --> 00:26:44.059 that Farmer's 1996 claims expired sometime in 1999 because New 436 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:49.359 Mexico has a three-year statute of limitations for personal injury 437 00:26:49.500 --> 00:26:52.519 actions and minors who have one year from reaching the 438 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.380 age of majority to begin such an action. Again, he 439 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:01.430 didn't choose New Mexico just because. Very carefully... chose New 440 00:27:01.470 --> 00:27:03.849 Mexico because of their laws when it comes to things 441 00:27:03.890 --> 00:27:06.109 like this. Because of their law when it comes to 442 00:27:06.150 --> 00:27:09.660 the age of consent. They chose New Mexico for a 443 00:27:09.779 --> 00:27:14.720 reason and the story in New Mexico has yet to 444 00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:17.599 be told. The full story has yet to be told, folks. 445 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.960 And that's something I'm going to keep working towards. I 446 00:27:20.980 --> 00:27:23.450 want to get to the bottom of what went down 447 00:27:23.569 --> 00:27:26.190 in New Mexico. I really would love to know the 448 00:27:26.230 --> 00:27:29.339 whole story. And if there are other sources out there, 449 00:27:29.420 --> 00:27:32.900 people that have knowledge of what cracked off in New Mexico, 450 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:35.660 feel free to reach out to me. I'm only a 451 00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:38.220 few hour flight away. I can always fly back down 452 00:27:38.579 --> 00:27:41.369 and sit down and talk with you folks. So believe me, 453 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:44.349 I am open to that. If security, you know, people 454 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:48.190 are worried about emails, etc., etc., no problem. I could 455 00:27:48.210 --> 00:27:50.109 fly down and we could speak face to face like 456 00:27:50.170 --> 00:27:51.950 I did the last time with some of my sources 457 00:27:52.430 --> 00:27:55.190 because it's that serious what happened down in New Mexico. 458 00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:59.009 It warrants me disrupting my life and flying down there 459 00:27:59.069 --> 00:28:03.289 again if that's the case, because there is a lot 460 00:28:03.329 --> 00:28:06.869 to be told at Zorro Ranch and in New Mexico, 461 00:28:07.410 --> 00:28:09.859 and I feel like it's crucial for the rest of 462 00:28:09.900 --> 00:28:14.039 the case and for justice to truly be served that 463 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:19.220 the story from New Mexico comes to light. Five days 464 00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:22.849 after requesting to move the case to New Mexico, Maxwell's attorney, 465 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.279 Laura Menninger, asked to delay Farmer's case. saying it could 466 00:28:26.380 --> 00:28:30.000 interfere with the ongoing criminal case against the British socialite, 467 00:28:30.460 --> 00:28:39.130 aka co-conspirator. The 58-year-old is also

under investigation by federal 468 00:28:39.190 --> 00:28:42.730 prosecutors in New York after she was accused of recruiting 469 00:28:43.099 --> 00:28:47.339 and grooming underage girls for Epstein. In a letter sent 470 00:28:47.380 --> 00:28:50.920 to a federal judge, Menninger argued Maxwell's deposition in Farmer's 471 00:28:50.980 --> 00:28:55.289 Suit could implicate her in the ongoing criminal case. So 472 00:28:55.390 --> 00:28:59.210 she basically confirms that she's under investigation as a co-conspirator. 473 00:28:59.589 --> 00:29:01.990 That's a good thing. So what I will say about 474 00:29:02.029 --> 00:29:04.390 that is, there's a little ray of sunshine, right? But again... 475 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.200 What's Berman waiting for? The evidence is all there. Swoop 476 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:13.819 her up. Make her life difficult. Make it hard on 477 00:29:13.900 --> 00:29:17.269 her to defend herself. Make it flip it around because 478 00:29:17.289 --> 00:29:20.190 the federal government's the best at that. They will litigate 479 00:29:20.269 --> 00:29:23.630 you into the poverty house. You will be so poor 480 00:29:23.970 --> 00:29:26.470 that you'll be begging for money on the streets when 481 00:29:26.490 --> 00:29:32.160 you're done litigating against the federal government. The U.S. Attorney's 482 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.660 Office in the Southern District of New York has publicly 483 00:29:34.859 --> 00:29:39.930 and repeatedly announced its ongoing criminal investigation into alleged Epstein crimes. 484 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.099 on the same topic as Farmer alleges in this case, 485 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:48.680 Menninger said. Denial of a stay, particularly a stay of Ms. 486 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:53.440 Maxwell's deposition pending outcome of the criminal investigation, could impair 487 00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:59.710 her Fifth Amendment privilege, against self-incrimination, extend criminal discovery, expose 488 00:29:59.789 --> 00:30:02.930 the defense's theory to the prosecution in advance of trial, 489 00:30:03.299 --> 00:30:09.759 or otherwise prejudice the criminal case. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. 490 00:30:09.819 --> 00:30:12.099 And guess what? That's all legalese. None of that's even 491 00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:14.500 true in my opinion. Again, I'm not a lawyer, but 492 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.230 I'm sure that Annie's lawyers are going to dismantle that 493 00:30:18.329 --> 00:30:22.049 whole entire line of thinking, one, two, three, easy peasy style, 494 00:30:22.509 --> 00:30:26.799 because it just seems absurd on its face. Farmer's lawyer 495 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.940 David Boies responded to the request on Monday, calling it 496 00:30:30.009 --> 00:30:34.630 meritless and another attempt to unjustifiably delay this litigation. He 497 00:30:34.730 --> 00:30:37.900 also argued Maxwell has not provided enough information on the 498 00:30:37.940 --> 00:30:41.059 criminal probe or her relation to it to

ask for 499 00:30:41.099 --> 00:30:45.250 a delay in her deposition. Maxwell therefore cannot use the 500 00:30:45.329 --> 00:30:49.549 existence of a criminal investigation to dodge her discovery obligations 501 00:30:49.710 --> 00:30:53.869 in this matter, particularly while at the same time refusing 502 00:30:53.890 --> 00:30:56.930 to provide any details or reasons as to why the 503 00:30:56.990 --> 00:31:00.309 investigation is a reason to stay the action, he wrote. 504 00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:03.619 So Boies is saying the same thing. David Boies is 505 00:31:03.660 --> 00:31:05.960 saying this is just more of an attempt for her 506 00:31:06.339 --> 00:31:08.579 to drag her feet, for her to delay things in 507 00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.960 this case, and for her to try and buy more time. 508 00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.640 For whatever reason, I don't know. But again, I don't 509 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.730 think she does anything without having a plan. So she's 510 00:31:19.769 --> 00:31:22.609 delaying for a reason, folks. What that reason is, I 511 00:31:23.029 --> 00:31:27.009 don't know. The lawsuit is just one of several civil 512 00:31:27.049 --> 00:31:30.170 cases that has been launched by Epstein survivors following his 513 00:31:30.210 --> 00:31:34.289 death last year. Maxwell, meanwhile, has managed to lay low 514 00:31:34.509 --> 00:31:36.849 and is believed to be in hiding as the FBI's 515 00:31:36.910 --> 00:31:40.730 net closes around Epstein's circle. Okay, that's all fine and well, 516 00:31:41.049 --> 00:31:44.640 but it is... Is it really happening? We don't have 517 00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:48.119 any arrests. We haven't seen any warrants issued. All we 518 00:31:48.180 --> 00:31:51.200 have are two people facing felonies, and those are the 519 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.799 people that were in charge of guarding Epstein on the 520 00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:57.940 night he allegedly killed himself. So, I want to believe 521 00:31:57.980 --> 00:32:00.160 that the net's closing in, and I want to believe 522 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.000 that the SDNY is starting to put things into motion, 523 00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:05.440 but until I see that with my own eyes and 524 00:32:05.539 --> 00:32:10.119 evidence of it, I will remain skeptical. In March, she 525 00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.359 sued Epstein's estate, claiming she knew nothing about his sex crimes. 526 00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.660 Maxwell is seeking compensation for legal fees and security costs 527 00:32:17.779 --> 00:32:21.200 incurred by her association with Epstein, who committed suicide in 528 00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:25.900 prison last year, allegedly. And what she's really trying to 529 00:32:25.940 --> 00:32:29.480 do is, in my opinion, she fired that shot over 530 00:32:29.500 --> 00:32:32.210 the bow and she's letting Khan and Indyk know the story. 531 00:32:32.349 --> 00:32:34.769 She's letting them know the deal. That if she goes down, 532 00:32:34.829 --> 00:32:37.410 the whole entire operation is going down in flames with her. 533 00:32:37.769 --> 00:32:41.049 Because if you think that Ghislaine Maxwell... has any sort 534 00:32:41.089 --> 00:32:45.730 of loyalty to Darren Kahn and Indyk. There is, excuse me, 535 00:32:45.890 --> 00:32:48.170 Richard Kahn and Darren Indyk. If you think she has 536 00:32:48.250 --> 00:32:51.450 any loyalty to these people, you are sadly mistaken. She 537 00:32:51.490 --> 00:32:54.089 has no loyalty to anybody. She might have had some 538 00:32:54.109 --> 00:32:56.799 loyalty to Jeffrey Epstein, but she does not have any 539 00:32:56.859 --> 00:33:01.099 loyalty to anyone left in this organization. Everybody below her 540 00:33:01.180 --> 00:33:05.599 was a pawn and people like Indyk and Kahn, well, 541 00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.470 they were just necessary for operations to continue. She doesn't 542 00:33:09.490 --> 00:33:12.390 care about them. She doesn't care about Vickers. The only 543 00:33:12.450 --> 00:33:15.529 person that she might, she might care about as far 544 00:33:15.569 --> 00:33:19.410 as friendship goes is Andrew, and I don't believe that 545 00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:21.759 for a minute either. I don't think that people like 546 00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:25.700 Ghislaine Maxwell are capable of having any sort of real friendships. 547 00:33:26.299 --> 00:33:30.319 I think sociopaths like that are incapable of any sort 548 00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:34.140 of real connection with other people that could be called friendships. 549 00:33:39.130 --> 00:33:41.849 This case cannot be allowed to be kicked to New Mexico. 550 00:33:42.230 --> 00:33:44.809 The judge must put their foot down. The judge must 551 00:33:44.890 --> 00:33:48.730 tell Maxwell to pound sand. And this case must continue 552 00:33:48.769 --> 00:33:52.130 to go on. And we must go to discovery phase. 553 00:33:52.750 --> 00:33:55.730 And all of the cards at that point will be 554 00:33:55.809 --> 00:33:59.670 laid on the table. And Ghislaine Maxwell will be proven 555 00:33:59.789 --> 00:34:03.769 once and for all, in my opinion, to be the vile, 556 00:34:04.170 --> 00:34:09.469 disgusting human being we all know that she is. If 557 00:34:09.489 --> 00:34:11.429 you'd like to contact me, you can do that at 558 00:34:11.489 --> 00:34:19.880 BobbyCapucci at ProtonMail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at ProtonMail.com. You can also 559 00:34:19.940 --> 00:34:25.400 find me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. You can 560 00:34:25.500 --> 00:34:29.579 also find the info... Civil lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell that 561 00:34:29.619 --> 00:34:35.030 was being brought by Jane Doe and her lawyer, Mr. Glassman, 562 00:34:35.619 --> 00:34:39.780 has been put on hold by Judge Deborah Freeman... after 563 00:34:39.860 --> 00:34:45.480 the prosecutors in the criminal case asked for that to occur. Now, 564 00:34:45.929 --> 00:34:51.110 they're saying that the civil case is running

concurrently with 565 00:34:51.429 --> 00:34:56.880 the criminal case, and information from the civil case is 566 00:34:57.110 --> 00:35:01.690 also going to be in the criminal case. So they 567 00:35:01.730 --> 00:35:04.739 didn't want to take the risk of the criminal case 568 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:10.099 being jeopardized by some of the information that comes out 569 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:15.619 in the civil case. Now, that doesn't mean that this 570 00:35:15.739 --> 00:35:19.559 civil case is done, right? That's not what happened here. 571 00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.360 The judge didn't end the case. She put it on 572 00:35:22.500 --> 00:35:27.889 hold while the criminal case works its way through the courts. 573 00:35:28.860 --> 00:35:31.780 So this was expected. We talked about this on the podcast. 574 00:35:32.300 --> 00:35:35.730 I expected this to be the case with the criminal 575 00:35:36.210 --> 00:35:39.309 case running at the same time as this civil case. 576 00:35:39.969 --> 00:35:44.409 And they're having all that overlap. I thought that the 577 00:35:44.449 --> 00:35:48.940 criminal case would take precedence to the civil case. And 578 00:35:49.019 --> 00:35:53.179 that is the ruling that the judge put forward. So 579 00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:55.739 we're going to jump into this article from ABC News. 580 00:35:56.269 --> 00:35:59.630 And take a look at what Judge Deborah Freeman said 581 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:08.719 about this case. This article was published at abcnews.go.com. The headline, 582 00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:13.650 Judge Puts Civil Lawsuit Against Ghislaine Maxwell on Hold. To 583 00:36:13.690 --> 00:36:18.510 continue would adversely affect the criminal prosecution, they argued. The 584 00:36:18.670 --> 00:36:24.289 author of this article is James Hill. A federal magistrate 585 00:36:24.329 --> 00:36:28.610 judge overseeing the only active civil lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell 586 00:36:28.949 --> 00:36:32.809 and the estate of sex offender Jeffrey Epstein has ordered 587 00:36:32.869 --> 00:36:36.500 a temporary hold on the case until Maxwell's criminal case 588 00:36:36.579 --> 00:36:40.340 is complete. Finding that Maxwell's right to a fair trial 589 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.300 outweighed the alleged survivor's pursuit of a timely resolution of 590 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.619 her claims. Well, right in the first paragraph, we're off 591 00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:52.039 to a bad start. Because we know that Jennifer Arreaz 592 00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:56.659 just filed a civil suit against Ghislaine Maxwell in the 593 00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:00.420 Manhattan Supreme Court. We just read about that. And it's 594 00:37:00.460 --> 00:37:03.400 not even mentioned here in this first paragraph. So not 595 00:37:03.539 --> 00:37:08.090 off to a great start. Should discovery in the civil 596 00:37:08.250 --> 00:37:11.550 action proceed, Maxwell would be forced to decide whether to 597 00:37:11.590 --> 00:37:16.650 defend herself by making pretrial disclosures and giving deposition testimony 598 00:37:17.210 --> 00:37:22.860 or to invoke her Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, wrote U.S. 599 00:37:22.929 --> 00:37:26.480 Magistrate Judge Deborah Freeman in her order this week. This 600 00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:30.340 legitimate concern, made more real and immediate by the active 601 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.829 posture of the criminal case... Militates in favor of a stay. 602 00:37:35.449 --> 00:37:38.829 And as shitty as it is, as much as I 603 00:37:38.889 --> 00:37:43.489 want to see all of these go to discovery and 604 00:37:43.570 --> 00:37:47.030 trial and all of that, I think that the criminal 605 00:37:47.110 --> 00:37:51.579 case most certainly is the most important case right now. 606 00:37:52.219 --> 00:37:56.099 And also, I think that if and when Ghislaine Maxwell 607 00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:59.659 is found guilty, it's going to really strengthen this civil 608 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.750 case moving forward as well, right? because now the courts 609 00:38:02.789 --> 00:38:05.389 have already found her guilty, I would have a hard 610 00:38:05.429 --> 00:38:09.619 time believing that a jury would not be awarding mega 611 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:14.360 bucks to somebody who brings the case against Maxwell, right? 612 00:38:14.900 --> 00:38:20.730 So I understand that Jane Doe here wants to press 613 00:38:20.809 --> 00:38:23.989 forward with her claim, but also at the same time, 614 00:38:24.030 --> 00:38:28.530 we have to remember that it looks like her allegations 615 00:38:28.809 --> 00:38:33.090 here Jane Doe's from the civil case are also being 616 00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:37.750 used in that criminal case. So it's not your typical situation, right? 617 00:38:38.309 --> 00:38:41.559 And it's one of those situations where I think that 618 00:38:41.619 --> 00:38:45.699 the criminal case must be put a rung above at 619 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:52.960 this point. Federal prosecutors had asked Freeman earlier this month 620 00:38:53.019 --> 00:38:55.940 to halt proceedings in the lawsuit, which was filed in 621 00:38:56.000 --> 00:39:00.239 January by an alleged child sex abuse survivor against Maxwell 622 00:39:00.340 --> 00:39:04.119 and Epstein's estate. Prosecutors told the judge that there is 623 00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.559 a significant risk that proceeding with the case would adversely 624 00:39:07.619 --> 00:39:12.849 affect the ongoing criminal prosecution against Maxwell. And now remember 625 00:39:12.889 --> 00:39:16.239 what we always talk about. These people like Elaine Maxwell, 626 00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:19.559 she's not up there to argue her innocence, right? She's 627 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:25.190 looking for loopholes. She's looking for technicalities. And if you 628 00:39:25.630 --> 00:39:28.610 run both of these cases concurrently, you're going to give 629 00:39:28.690 --> 00:39:33.199 her law team a... the ability to

exploit loopholes or 630 00:39:33.260 --> 00:39:36.900 technicalities and get her off of those criminal charges perhaps 631 00:39:37.300 --> 00:39:41.699 and i don't think anybody wants to see that In 632 00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:44.719 a letter from Audrey Strauss, the acting U.S. attorney for 633 00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:48.099 the Southern District of New York, prosecutors asserted that there 634 00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:52.250 is a factual overlap between the civil and criminal cases 635 00:39:52.710 --> 00:39:55.750 that could result in a premature disclosure of evidence and 636 00:39:55.829 --> 00:40:00.349 testimony from witnesses who may be called upon in both cases. 637 00:40:00.909 --> 00:40:03.230 And that's exactly what I was just talking about. The 638 00:40:03.449 --> 00:40:07.289 overlap from these cases is obvious, and it's obvious that 639 00:40:07.409 --> 00:40:11.760 Jane Doe and her allegations are one of the allegations... 640 00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:15.300 being prosecuted criminally. So I would think that if the 641 00:40:15.340 --> 00:40:18.539 prosecutors got with her legal team and everybody sat down 642 00:40:19.110 --> 00:40:21.949 and discussed what was going on, that they could come 643 00:40:21.989 --> 00:40:26.309 to a proper resolution here and give Jane Doe a 644 00:40:26.349 --> 00:40:30.789 peace of mind that she is more than able to 645 00:40:30.849 --> 00:40:36.050 pursue her claims after the criminal case winds up. Because again, 646 00:40:36.070 --> 00:40:39.550 I think that the criminal case and Ghislaine Maxwell going 647 00:40:39.610 --> 00:40:42.679 to prison For what she has done. Is the most 648 00:40:42.739 --> 00:40:46.619 important thing we have going on here. And I also believe. 649 00:40:47.659 --> 00:40:51.079 Obviously in my opinion anyway. I'm certainly not a specialist. 650 00:40:51.179 --> 00:40:54.380 On the matters of the estate. Or suing estates. But 651 00:40:54.420 --> 00:40:58.909 I think that it would. Lend some strength. To the 652 00:40:58.969 --> 00:41:02.949 claim in civil court. If we're talking about somebody. Who 653 00:41:03.250 --> 00:41:10.519 is already. Indicted. And sentenced. In prison. a criminal case 654 00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:15.679 that relates to the civil one. Such witnesses may be 655 00:41:15.739 --> 00:41:19.090 forced to testify about any efforts to assist the criminal 656 00:41:19.130 --> 00:41:24.030 investigation and prosecution and may thereby expose facts about the 657 00:41:24.070 --> 00:41:29.690 investigation and could potentially expose witnesses and or their families 658 00:41:29.929 --> 00:41:35.300 to harassment, the government's letter states. Moreover, permitting any discovery 659 00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:38.460 to proceed in this lawsuit would enable Maxwell to seek 660 00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:41.840 a preview of trial testimony in the criminal case and 661 00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:45.159 would afford her with a broader array of discovery than 662 00:41:45.219 --> 00:41:48.360 she is entitled to in the criminal case. So you 663 00:41:48.409 --> 00:41:50.949 see here, you know, when you read the headline and 664 00:41:50.969 --> 00:41:54.309 you hear some people talk about this, they act like it's, 665 00:41:54.550 --> 00:41:58.349 you know, the government trying to help Ghislaine Maxwell. When 666 00:41:58.389 --> 00:42:01.250 in reality, if you're really paying attention to this case, 667 00:42:01.949 --> 00:42:06.289 and you're not trying to, you know, salt seeds of nonsense, 668 00:42:06.670 --> 00:42:09.230 then you understand this is how it works. The criminal 669 00:42:09.269 --> 00:42:13.579 case takes precedent over the civil case, especially when there's 670 00:42:13.739 --> 00:42:19.920 overlap here. And it's obvious that Jane Doe is one 671 00:42:19.940 --> 00:42:25.409 of the accusers. So there is obvious overlap here. The prosecution, 672 00:42:25.449 --> 00:42:28.190 in my opinion, is doing the right thing here. And 673 00:42:28.289 --> 00:42:31.110 I haven't heard any lawyer worth their weight in salt 674 00:42:31.289 --> 00:42:35.960 or any law pundit come out and really pan this move. 675 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:38.400 Because I think at the end of the day, everybody's 676 00:42:38.500 --> 00:42:42.510 focused on the same thing. And that is making sure 677 00:42:42.590 --> 00:42:49.800 that Maxwell pays a criminal price. The civil lawsuit filed 678 00:42:49.909 --> 00:42:54.320 under the pseudonym Jane Doe contains allegations that are substantially 679 00:42:54.420 --> 00:42:58.000 similar to those contained in the criminal indictment against Maxwell, 680 00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.780 who allegedly groomed three minor girls to be abused by 681 00:43:02.019 --> 00:43:08.739 Epstein between 1994 and 1997 and, in some instances, participated 682 00:43:08.780 --> 00:43:14.389 in the abuse herself, according to prosecutors. Maxwell has pleaded 683 00:43:14.449 --> 00:43:17.469 not guilty to the charges and has denied the allegations 684 00:43:17.510 --> 00:43:22.420 in the civil suit. So you see, it's very obvious, right, 685 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.159 that we're talking about the same Jane Doe here. We're 686 00:43:25.179 --> 00:43:29.480 talking about the same case. And we see why prosecution 687 00:43:29.539 --> 00:43:33.739 would ask for a stay in the civil portion of 688 00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:38.420 this case. In its letter to the court, the government 689 00:43:38.460 --> 00:43:42.199 declined to address speculation Maxwell's attorneys have raised in court 690 00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:46.349 filings that Doe is one of the alleged victims identified 691 00:43:46.389 --> 00:43:49.730 in the criminal case. Those attorneys have declined to comment 692 00:43:49.789 --> 00:43:53.349 on the apparent parallels to the criminal case. So we 693 00:43:53.369 --> 00:43:57.250 don't have the confirmation, right, that this is the same 694 00:43:58.590 --> 00:44:02.699 person who is

making these allegations, but all of the 695 00:44:02.739 --> 00:44:08.659 stars aligned. By advocating for a stay in the civil case, 696 00:44:08.900 --> 00:44:12.679 the government found itself, in this instance, aligned with Maxwell 697 00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:16.219 and the co-executors of Epstein's estate, who had been arguing 698 00:44:16.260 --> 00:44:18.619 for months that the case should be placed on hold 699 00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:24.579 while criminal investigations of Epstein's alleged co-conspirators remain open. That's 700 00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:29.170 kind of a bit of a stretch, right? The author's 701 00:44:29.210 --> 00:44:32.010 kind of making it out like prosecution was working behind 702 00:44:32.050 --> 00:44:36.250 the scenes with the lawyers for Epstein's estate. That's not 703 00:44:36.269 --> 00:44:38.719 what's going on here, all right? This isn't like the 704 00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:41.139 first time around when they were in the back room 705 00:44:41.179 --> 00:44:45.639 wheeling and dealing. This is something that I think, as 706 00:44:45.699 --> 00:44:48.239 unfortunate as it is for Jane Doe and as shitty 707 00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:50.530 as it is for her, it's something that has to 708 00:44:50.590 --> 00:44:53.110 occur if we're going to get to the bottom of 709 00:44:53.170 --> 00:44:57.659 this as far as the criminal aspect goes. We don't 710 00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.789 want to give these people any loopholes. How many more 711 00:45:00.869 --> 00:45:06.610 hooks are we going to let these smarmy, disgusting, slippery 712 00:45:06.969 --> 00:45:12.710 garbage fish wiggle off of? Absent a stay, Ms. Maxwell 713 00:45:12.750 --> 00:45:15.389 will be forced to choose between her constitutional right to 714 00:45:15.429 --> 00:45:19.949 remain silent and her active and vigorous participation in defending 715 00:45:20.010 --> 00:45:24.159 against and refuting those false claims in this case. wrote 716 00:45:24.219 --> 00:45:27.159 Maxwell's lawyer, Laura Menninger, in a letter to the court 717 00:45:27.300 --> 00:45:31.769 earlier this month. Those lawyers had opposed those efforts, arguing 718 00:45:31.809 --> 00:45:35.289 in court filings that a stay would simply delay long 719 00:45:35.489 --> 00:45:38.789 overdue justice. And I agree about that. If we didn't 720 00:45:38.809 --> 00:45:42.190 have the criminal case proceeding in the manner that it's proceeding, 721 00:45:42.469 --> 00:45:46.550 and there was no overlap, I would be 100% against 722 00:45:46.650 --> 00:45:50.840 a stay in this case. But, We have to look 723 00:45:50.860 --> 00:45:53.179 at the big picture here, right? We have to look 724 00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:55.840 at the criminal portion of this case. There has been 725 00:45:55.929 --> 00:45:59.130 way too much work put in at this point to 726 00:45:59.210 --> 00:46:01.809 get to where we are as far as Ghislaine Maxwell 727 00:46:01.849 --> 00:46:04.809 facing justice to have her be able to wiggle

off 728 00:46:05.050 --> 00:46:08.510 on some sort of technicality. It cannot be allowed to happen. 729 00:46:11.030 --> 00:46:14.139 Doe is seeking to hold defendant Maxwell accountable for the 730 00:46:14.179 --> 00:46:17.860 heinous and sick sexual acts she committed against her over 731 00:46:17.900 --> 00:46:20.920 the course of several years when she was just a child, 732 00:46:21.340 --> 00:46:25.989 wrote her lawyer, Robert Glassman, of Panish, Shea & Boyle, LLP, 733 00:46:26.289 --> 00:46:28.789 in a letter to the court. She is best served 734 00:46:28.829 --> 00:46:31.969 by pressing forward with her claims, not waiting even longer 735 00:46:32.030 --> 00:46:34.789 for justice. I don't agree with that. I do not 736 00:46:34.829 --> 00:46:38.510 agree with that because her case isn't going to be 737 00:46:38.610 --> 00:46:40.699 over in a day either, right? They have to go 738 00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:43.300 through the process. The wheels of justice have to turn. 739 00:46:43.969 --> 00:46:46.840 So I think that the criminal portion of this case 740 00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:51.320 is where the focus should be. And I think that Mr. 741 00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:55.239 Glassman here should be focused on helping the prosecution with 742 00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:59.960 whatever sort of information that he thinks is necessary for 743 00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:04.750 their prosecution to move forward in an expedited manner. Because 744 00:47:04.809 --> 00:47:08.050 the faster the prosecution moves of Ghislaine Maxwell in the 745 00:47:08.110 --> 00:47:11.349 criminal manner means the quicker they can get to the 746 00:47:11.449 --> 00:47:16.409 civil portion. Of more than 30 women who brought legal 747 00:47:16.469 --> 00:47:20.289 claims against Epstein's estate following his death last year, Doe 748 00:47:20.329 --> 00:47:23.880 was the only accuser who declined to voluntarily put her 749 00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:27.760 lawsuit on hold to pursue an alternative resolution via the 750 00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:33.980 Epstein's Victims' Compensation Fund, a non-adversarial program established by the 751 00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:40.269 estate that began evaluating claims in June. Again, Jennifer Arreaz 752 00:47:40.349 --> 00:47:43.769 just filed a civil suit as well in the Manhattan... 753 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:47.949 Supreme Court. So that's two girls now, right? Two ladies 754 00:47:48.230 --> 00:47:53.190 who aren't involved in the compensation fund. At least it 755 00:47:53.210 --> 00:47:59.349 would look that way from Jennifer Arreos' newest filing. Doe 756 00:47:59.369 --> 00:48:01.929 alleges in her complaint that she was first approached at 757 00:48:01.989 --> 00:48:06.280 age 13 by Epstein and Maxwell in 1994 at a 758 00:48:06.380 --> 00:48:09.039 summer camp at the Interlochen Center for the Arts in 759 00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:13.280 Michigan and And that a month-long grooming process by Epstein 760 00:48:13.659 --> 00:48:18.820 and Maxwell continued

after she returned home to Florida. And 761 00:48:18.860 --> 00:48:21.320 we covered that when that story came out. We discussed 762 00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:26.989 that at length and how Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein groomed 763 00:48:27.030 --> 00:48:35.920 this young lady and subsequently sexually assaulted her. Doe, now 40, 764 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:39.380 alleges that the sexual abuse by Epstein escalated over the 765 00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:43.679 next few years as Epstein and Maxwell asserted control over 766 00:48:43.739 --> 00:48:47.360 her life. She claims she was sexually abused at Epstein's 767 00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:51.030 homes in Florida, New York, and his ranch in New Mexico, 768 00:48:51.389 --> 00:48:54.130 and that she would often travel to those locations with 769 00:48:54.250 --> 00:48:58.550 Epstein and Maxwell on one of Epstein's private jets. Well, 770 00:48:59.210 --> 00:49:02.630 we know for a fact that Epstein There was some 771 00:49:02.750 --> 00:49:05.469 funky shit going on in New Mexico, and we also 772 00:49:05.510 --> 00:49:07.900 know for a fact that there still is not an 773 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:14.639 investigation running in New Mexico. As usual, my question is, why? 774 00:49:15.110 --> 00:49:19.449 What is going on in New Mexico that makes them 775 00:49:19.570 --> 00:49:23.949 so adversely to doing a real investigation to what occurred 776 00:49:24.110 --> 00:49:29.690 at Zorro Ranch? Epstein's system of abuse was facilitated in 777 00:49:29.710 --> 00:49:34.309 large part by his co-conspirator and accomplice, Maxwell, who helped 778 00:49:34.349 --> 00:49:37.849 supply him with a steady stream of young and vulnerable girls, 779 00:49:37.909 --> 00:49:41.489 the complaint said. During Doe's time in New York, Maxwell 780 00:49:41.769 --> 00:49:46.670 also regularly facilitated Epstein's abuse of Doe and was frequently 781 00:49:46.769 --> 00:49:51.849 present when it occurred. So, we know how heinous these 782 00:49:51.889 --> 00:49:55.440 claims are by Jane Doe. We know that Ghislaine Maxwell 783 00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:02.760 and Jeffrey Epstein, according to her, abused her and sexually 784 00:50:02.820 --> 00:50:07.590 assaulted her for quite some time. And Jane Doe most 785 00:50:07.670 --> 00:50:12.820 certainly deserves her day in court. And with the greater case, 786 00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.219 the criminal case, she and the rest of the survivors 787 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:19.460 are going to get it. And then after that, after 788 00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:27.090 Maxwell's prosecuted, after Maxwell is sentenced, then Jane Doe will 789 00:50:27.130 --> 00:50:31.670 be able to pick this lawsuit back up, the lawsuit here, 790 00:50:31.710 --> 00:50:35.570 the civil lawsuit, and pursue it all the way home. 791 00:50:38.940 --> 00:50:42.260 Maxwell formally requested a stay in Doe's case last month, 792 00:50:42.780 --> 00:50:45.739 arguing that Doe had failed to articulate a cogent reason 793 00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:48.599 for wanting to press ahead with her lawsuit while the 794 00:50:48.659 --> 00:50:51.559 criminal case is ongoing and while Doe can choose to 795 00:50:51.619 --> 00:50:55.469 present her claims to the estate's compensation fund. If it 796 00:50:55.530 --> 00:50:57.949 is money she seeks, she can pursue it in the 797 00:50:58.010 --> 00:51:00.530 claims program, Menninger wrote in a letter to the court 798 00:51:00.570 --> 00:51:04.010 last week. If it's justice she seeks, the criminal case 799 00:51:04.710 --> 00:51:07.809 will resolve those issues one way or the other. Oh, 800 00:51:07.849 --> 00:51:12.349 Laura Menninger. Big mouth menager. Guess what? She's going to 801 00:51:12.389 --> 00:51:14.210 go after it both ways, right? She's going to get 802 00:51:14.250 --> 00:51:17.530 the money she seeks, right? And there's going to be justice. 803 00:51:18.530 --> 00:51:23.320 So enjoy your last few months milking Ghislaine Maxwell for 804 00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:28.000 thousands of dollars an hour because no matter what you 805 00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.500 or the rest of those defense attorneys do, your client 806 00:51:32.420 --> 00:51:35.460 is spending the rest of her natural life in prison. 807 00:51:38.059 --> 00:51:40.300 Those lawyers countered that a stay of the case would 808 00:51:40.340 --> 00:51:44.110 deprive her and the public with an opportunity to learn 809 00:51:44.210 --> 00:51:49.469 long-hidden information about Epstein's alleged criminal sex trafficking operation and 810 00:51:49.570 --> 00:51:53.690 Maxwell's alleged role in it. That is for sure, if 811 00:51:53.750 --> 00:51:56.300 it wasn't for the criminal case running at the same time. 812 00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:58.920 Because we're going to learn all of that stuff in 813 00:51:58.940 --> 00:52:01.880 the criminal case as well. We're going to learn all 814 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.900 of that and more. Because remember, Ghislaine Maxwell is not 815 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:08.650 going down alone. You can mark my words on that. 816 00:52:08.889 --> 00:52:13.559 Write it down. Ship it home. Get it notarized. Maxwell 817 00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:19.019 is not going down alone in this. The continuation of 818 00:52:19.059 --> 00:52:22.639 this last remaining civil avenue... can furnish the public with 819 00:52:22.739 --> 00:52:27.630 critical information... as to defendant Maxwell's well-known criminal enterprise... how 820 00:52:27.690 --> 00:52:31.550 it was operated... and all of those involved. A stay 821 00:52:31.570 --> 00:52:35.090 of the civil proceedings... would provide what defendant Maxwell has 822 00:52:35.130 --> 00:52:38.780 sought for years... Concealing her heinous acts from public view, 823 00:52:39.179 --> 00:52:42.320 Glassman wrote to the court last month. I agree, right? 824 00:52:42.409 --> 00:52:45.409 If it wasn't for the criminal case, I think Mr. 825 00:52:45.449 --> 00:52:48.329 Glassman is spot on with everything he's saying. And I 826 00:52:48.369 --> 00:52:53.329 don't disagree with their position, right? I think that if 827 00:52:53.389 --> 00:52:56.809 Doe wants to pursue this all the way to a 828 00:52:57.130 --> 00:53:01.219 jury trial, then that's her prerogative. But it cannot be 829 00:53:01.300 --> 00:53:05.619 done if it's going to interfere with the criminal case. 830 00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:11.559 Judge Freeman was unpersuaded, determining that the public interest is 831 00:53:11.659 --> 00:53:15.500 best served by protecting the integrity of criminal proceedings. And 832 00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:17.480 I have to agree with that, right? I think the 833 00:53:17.539 --> 00:53:21.440 criminal proceedings supersede anything at this point. I think the 834 00:53:21.500 --> 00:53:25.260 criminal proceedings are the most important thing going on right now. 835 00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:31.219 Because justice must be served in this case. Overall, and 836 00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:35.329 despite Doe's assertion that a stay would work to her disadvantage... 837 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:38.760 This court finds that any generalized prejudice that she would 838 00:53:38.820 --> 00:53:42.019 suffer as the result of a stay is not sufficient 839 00:53:42.059 --> 00:53:45.429 to counterbalance the other factors that the court should consider, 840 00:53:45.739 --> 00:53:50.630 which all heavily favor a stay, Freeman wrote. So, that 841 00:53:50.670 --> 00:53:55.590 was Judge Freeman's decision on Jane Doe's case against Ghislaine Maxwell, 842 00:53:56.429 --> 00:54:00.650 and that is where we're at. The civil case is 843 00:54:00.750 --> 00:54:05.789 on hold, while the criminal case... is barreling down the 844 00:54:05.849 --> 00:54:11.320 street at 100 miles per hour. If you'd like to 845 00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:15.010 contact me, you can do that at bobbycappucci at protonmail.com. 846 00:54:15.329 --> 00:54:21.659 That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can also find me on 847 00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:28.119 Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. All right, everybody, we'll be 848 00:54:28.139 --> 00:54:28.449 back later.