התמלול המלא של Dumb Guys Do Racing EP 184 - McNaughty in the Studio: NRL Season 8 Revealed

--> 00:06:20.720 That's why we had to start asking for people to help out. 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:29.120 And we have uh, as per usual, great fans that have donated, crazy people that have donated twice. 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:34.160 You know, and we appreciate you. 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:42.160 We appreciate and and we understand that there are costs to doing what you're doing, and a lot and a lot of costs. 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:42.959 It's not cheap. 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:55.040 No, we're also doing no, no, and then you know, also with that, you know, like you know, it's not like it's not like okay, you know, we're increasing the the the entry fee and I'm just gonna take it. 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:59.040 It's you know also an increase in the the prize pool, right? 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:03.600 Uh you know, all of our sponsors from season seven are returning. 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:04.720 So thank you. 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:06.800 Thank you to you guys for PGP. 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:09.120 You know, re upping up with us. 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:10.319 Welcome. 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.839 And uh, you know, we're working on adding a couple more as well. 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.399 So uh that that should also help. 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:22.399 Um but nothing finalized yet, but just in the talks with the you know a couple other entities. 00:07:23.040 --> 00:08:00.480 And uh, you know, there are some new changes uh you know under the hood that's going to enhance you know the ability for you know, well, Jimbo, you joined this season, but you know, who maybe Coach Mike, if you're gonna be the race engineer, there's uh there's a a project that I'm working on to help you be able to more efficiently race engineer, as well as uh a couple little doodads that you might see in the uh in the broadcast that that are you know really pushing the limits of you know what can be presented uh in a GT7 league. 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:04.720 So you know definitely stay tuned for that stuff. 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:06.560 I'm excited. 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:10.560 We're hoping to get Mike signed up and be driving. 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:11.839 We're hoping to get Mike signed up. 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:17.839 I'm just checking on scheduling stuff just to ensure that I can participate properly. 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:20.560 Gotcha, gotcha. 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:23.279 So when does the season officially kick off? 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:25.279 When is the first race? 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:34.639 Yeah, so the pre-qualifying round is that uh 17th and 18th of uh of September. 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:36.960 Uh that's a Friday and a Saturday. 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:45.120 So so for your for your viewers who aren't familiar with NRL, that does not mean that you race on Friday and then you race again on Saturday. 00:08:45.679 --> 00:08:50.639 The way that NRL is broken up is that there are two regular seasons. 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.240 There's like a Friday regular season and a Saturday regular season, right? 00:08:54.399 --> 00:09:04.000 And depending on what day you choose to compete, you go through pre-qualifying, and if you get past pre-qualifying, then you go through rounds one through four. 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:19.840 And then at the end of round four, uh you're compared to the people in the same division as you on the other day, and then the top 14, regardless of each day, compete on November 14th for that division's championship. 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:26.480 And I alluded to divisions, and the way that you're placed into divisions is how you perform in the pre-qualifying round. 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:43.120 So with a little ask to risk, right, the top 14 drivers on your day in the pre-qualifying round, the top 14 times I should say, are division A, the next 14 are division B, and then everybody else is unfortunately eliminated. 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:52.159 And if you're eliminated, the money that you pay via PayPal or your debit card or whatever, however you pay for it on McNaughty.gg, whether it's gifted, right? 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:56.399 Like if you have somebody sponsoring you, right, there's functionality in there for that too. 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:58.240 They'll get their money back. 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:01.360 Um, so it's it's a no-risk. 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:08.080 Uh if you don't make it past pre-qualifying, you know, you get to watch like uh the rest of us. 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:21.759 Um and uh yeah, once you're in your division, then you go through those rounds, and then at the end of round four, you make you make or you don't make the final, and then depending on how you do in the final, you become that division's champion or not. 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:24.159 Um in a nutshell. 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:33.039 Well, I I will say this the only way you lose out is by not being fast enough. 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:33.919 Yep. 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:35.279 That is correct. 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:37.600 You know, you just you pride. 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.559 You lose pride for not being able to make the league. 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:44.879 So what is the uh car and track for qualifying? 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:58.320 Okay, we're we're starting it off with uh high stakes at uh, well, maybe not as high stakes with this uh new update, but uh Dragon Trail Seaside uh in the Toyota FT1 group three car. 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:00.639 Uh 25-minute qualifier. 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:03.840 Uh I think it's three times uh tire, two times fuel. 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:04.559 Do I have that right? 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:06.799 Let me pull it up here on McNaughty.gg. 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:08.799 Yeah, three times tire, two times fuel. 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:11.120 Starting fuel is 25 liters. 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:12.639 Uh so you have plenty of time. 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:17.600 Oh, and you cannot reset to the tits, so it's like real life. 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:21.600 Uh but you have plenty

of time to set that one golden lap. 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:25.440 And uh, you know, it's all online. 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:37.200 You know, there'll be a couple splits, and then at the end of the Friday broadcast, we'll know who moves on to you know each division and who who unfortunately goes home, and then we do it all again on Saturday afternoon. 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:39.360 Is there a slipstream? 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:41.919 No, no slipstream. 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:43.600 Good, good. 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:44.000 Okay, yeah. 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:44.799 I just wanted to double. 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:52.879 It's literally individual like strategy planning for setting your lap and then putting the lap best lap down. 00:11:52.960 --> 00:12:04.159 And you know, the reason why now we're we're we're setting the starting fuel load to low so that way it's not a okay, you're going through this whole thing for 25 minutes and it's all about the last lap. 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:07.440 So you set your fastest right at the start if you want. 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:09.440 Right, right. 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.600 So, you know, your fastest lap can come at any time. 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:16.320 And you know, yeah. 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:21.919 Um I think it it should uh set the fireworks off uh early. 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:28.720 Um but yeah, there are definitely some uh combos uh coming up that uh oh yeah, that's the other thing about NRL. 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:34.399 You don't know the combo that you're going to do next until the end of the round that you're currently in. 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:38.960 So you know, pre-qualifying, we all know that information. 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.279 Everybody has forever to practice, right? 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:52.799 You still have like a month to get it situated, and then uh you find out what round one is on that Friday at the end of the broadcast, and then you have two weeks to prepare. 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:56.159 Ooh, yeah, yeah. 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:57.440 Ooh, I got a question. 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:05.279 Okay, so since I can't be eliminated, is there gonna be um a certain time I can set my quality? 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:10.720 Because I'm gonna I leave out of town on that Friday, and I'm gonna be gone. 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:12.799 Yeah, so oh yeah, yeah. 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:20.639 So um for people who uh have a a conflict uh with with pre-qualifying, right? 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:25.840 And uh you can you can set your time earlier. 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:26.399 Okay. 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:35.679 Um so you know, it could open up a lobby on the Wednesday or the Thursday or something like that for people who can't uh participate, and you can set your time there. 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:38.240 Uh it'll be compared against everyone else. 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:41.519 It's uh not kept under lock and key. 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:47.200 It's also not you know you know broadcasted out to you know

the world. 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:53.600 So if somebody finds out about it, they find out about it, but it, you know, I'm not I'm not going out of my way to do either or right. 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:54.639 They may find out anything. 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:55.759 Yeah. 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:59.200 I just need to set a quick time just to put it in there. 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:03.840 But so yeah, I mean you're trying to get to the Vision A this time around. 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:05.840 Yeah, I tried to try it a couple weeks ago. 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:07.279 Yeah, I'm gonna try. 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:11.200 We'll see what happens though, with these new physics and stuff like that. 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:14.399 But we'll give it a shot for sure. 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:16.320 But we'll see what happens. 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:24.720 Yeah, I'm just um just actually reading through the list of things. 00:14:25.039 --> 00:14:27.759 Um I'm excited. 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:30.320 I'm also worried, you know. 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:32.559 Don't be worried, you'll make it. 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:39.919 I don't I don't want to be one of the slow guys, and I don't want to somehow come out of nowhere and be at the bottom of A either. 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:44.399 That's yeah, I mean, I guess we're too worried. 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:49.440 I have the nylon ground. 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:52.480 Yeah, miracle lap. 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:54.399 Get the miracle line up. 00:14:54.879 --> 00:15:00.320 And I'm like, wow, I got the fastest lap in this qualifying crap, you know. 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:05.200 That's I don't think that's gonna happen. 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:18.960 But so NRL tends to have you know races where like you know, doing the right strategy, you know, makes a huge difference. 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:22.240 And I had a I had a feedback survey at the end of the season. 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:25.279 So I have a feedback survey at the end of every season, right? 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:29.200 Or the past couple seasons I've started doing it, but like it'll continue. 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:37.759 And uh you know, people give their feedback anonymously, and some people choose to remain not anonymous about it and you know, give their feedback. 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:50.879 And what I try to do is like you know, take all these points uh constructively and try to figure out a you know a middle ground, because like for every suggestion, there's someone suggesting like the opposite, right? 00:15:51.279 --> 00:16:06.240 So like, for example, like I had someone like suggest like you know, oh we need to we need to have like more sprint races where like you know we could just full out like try really hard and not worry about strategy at all, right? 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:23.360 And then there's uh you know another you know response that says you know we need more strategy, like we you know, we can't have any races that you know we're we're doing a a sprint and

you know just pushing it out, you know, pushing our foot down to the floor like the entire race. 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:26.159 So like you know, how do I you know reconcile that? 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:32.960 And I think that what what you'll end up seeing here is like a mixture of different types of things, right? 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:40.240 So like there may be a race where you know it's like okay, I'm just gonna push for X amount of laps, right? 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:46.080 And you know, I just better have like the fastest lap time possible because that's what it's gonna come down to. 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:51.279 There may be races where you know there's strategy, oh, do I do a one-stop, a two-stop? 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:53.440 Or you know, what tire do I go on? 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:54.960 There's obviously gonna be rain. 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:56.080 We know how that goes here. 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:56.960 Oh yeah. 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:08.640 So uh, you know, so there's gonna be races like that, and you know, there, you know, I don't want to wanna like give away too much, but like there's gonna be you know, weeks that you're thinking about different types of things. 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:17.440 Um so and this is all in in order to try and you know do the thing that nobody can do, and that is make everyone happy. 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:19.519 Um, you just can't. 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:30.480 So there's gonna be there's gonna yeah, there's gonna be some moaning and groaning from some people, but hopefully it's only like on one week, and then it's a different group of people who are moaning and groaning the next week. 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:33.759 Uh, you know, but like for me, like I don't take any offense to it, right? 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.279 Like people give feedback, right, because they care. 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:37.920 Right. 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:43.680 The the you know, the the worst thing you can have is just like indifference and like someone just being like, uh well, I don't care. 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:47.119 I'm just gonna walk away and you know not look back. 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:54.559 But um, you know, we've built a really good thing here, and uh, you know, I'm I'm thankful that you guys are uh part of it. 00:17:54.640 --> 00:18:02.319 And you know, for those of you who are listening who haven't signed up or who are scared or any of that stuff, stop being scared, just sign up. 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:04.960 The worst that you can happen is that you know you don't make it. 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:11.680 But I'll tell you what, there are people who joined this community, right, and and made a bunch of friends along the way. 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:14.480 And you know, I'm just gonna put it out there, right? 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:18.400 You look at you know the work that VIP is doing with their series, right? 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:34.480 A lot of a lot of the reasons why things like that happen, a lot of the reasons why things like PHG World Series and you know why Joker series happens and and all of that is because you know people came here and they met here and then they formed their teams here, right? 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:38.400 And you know, then they they're like, oh man, I want to try it too. 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:42.000 And that's why you know there are so many you know success stories now. 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:44.480 I and you know, I couldn't I couldn't be prouder of that. 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:47.359 So like if you get nothing else, you get a community to join. 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:49.359 Yeah, for sure. 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:51.039 Yeah, I love it. 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:52.400 Yeah, it is a great community. 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:54.160 GT Savage. 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:57.359 Everyone we've met through it has just been amazing. 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:00.880 Yeah, all the PhD, VIP, all those guys. 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:01.920 S7R. 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:03.200 S7R. 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:03.599 Yeah. 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:05.119 Yeah, it's it's been great. 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:12.480 And then now we're doing the Red Bull Jr., me and Mike, and that's been fun and yeah, it's been great. 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:17.839 Yeah, so real real quick, uh, explain your Saturday. 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:20.799 What was your Saturday like for you, McNaughty? 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:23.440 This past Saturday? 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:25.200 Yes, this past Saturday. 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:30.000 Like, so are you up at, and like what time do you go to bed? 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:33.519 Because it seemed like all day you were producing. 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:42.160 Well, okay, so I I was unable to to produce the GTSC that morning. 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:57.519 Oh, you were normally so normally I would be doing uh uh stint one split one of GTSC, but the schedule changed for that, and uh my my wife was like away uh all day yesterday. 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:07.039 So like it would have been a situation where I would have woken up at 6 a.m., you know, done the things I need to do with the kids and with the dog and breakfast and whatnot. 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:19.039 Then I get come down here to the office, do the do the broadcast for GTSC, then go back to you know being a parent and all that, and then at the end of the day, you know, come back down here to the basement and do Red Cull Jr. 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:23.920 Refer to it as the production center, not the office or the basement. 00:20:24.079 --> 00:20:24.480 Yes, right. 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:26.880 You don't gotta go back to the production center. 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:30.000 That's what you got for for the entire summer. 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:38.559 I think like I streamed once when I was doing um the IRO uh G Tech G Tech, the endurance championship, right? 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.119 Uh because I because I race in that too. 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:51.119 Um so I did that, I streamed

that, but like other than this, like I haven't I haven't like played the game, I haven't done any dailies all summer or anything like that. 00:20:51.359 --> 00:21:08.960 And I've been you know working to try and get you know this new uh system uh for you know telemetry race engineering and uh you know a couple uh broadcast tweaks up and running, so I've been working on that all summer as well. 00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:12.640 So not to mention, right, like Upshift Media, right? 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:17.519 Like Upshift Media is putting on two broadcasts every week, so I'm also a part of that. 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:21.119 Yeah, that's been awesome watching those. 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:21.599 Yeah. 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:39.039 Now, are you the main person or is it everybody like Papa and Sal, T case, everybody has the role in it, or is there like somebody who is overseeing everything and is that are you that person? 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:49.519 So so in terms of like our our our front facing roles, like you know, what we're actually doing on the night that the production goes live, right? 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:52.559 Like I'm I'm not a commentator, right? 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:59.759 So uh and I think the other five of the ownership group, right, they all can. 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:05.119 Commentate right, T Case, Sal, Tati, Slow-Mo, and Papa, right? 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:07.359 They all take turns in the commentary booth. 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:11.839 I do not do commentary, so I'm always behind the scenes for that stuff. 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:22.880 And I rotate behind the scenes work with Sal, with T Case, and I think Papa's scheduled to do uh some production work for one of the rounds coming up. 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:34.000 But you know, in behind the scenes, like we all have like an equal say on like the trajectory of of you know the the company. 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:34.559 Right. 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:38.720 Um yeah, so so the six of us are equals, right? 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:50.880 We're we're all owners, but like I think to a certain degree, like you know, Sal is the one who got us all together, so like he's he he's kind of like the leader, but like we all have equal equity. 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:52.160 Okay. 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:53.440 Got it. 00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:55.599 Interesting. 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.519 And you know, we're we are looking to to expand. 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:09.680 Uh there there have been some uh uh you know leagues that have approached us that you know we we haven't had the ability to take on yet because of the size of the team. 00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:18.079 So like you know, we're we're looking to expand um so that way we can support you know some more series, especially in 2027. 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:28.799 Uh it seems like there are a lot of things coming for a lot of uh community leagues in uh in 2027, so we want to be prepared for that as well. 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:35.759 Now, is there

a fee that these leagues pay you guys to produce? 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:49.759 Uh yeah, so so the contract the contracts uh that we have with with uh any client of ours can can vary um depending on the scope of what they need, right? 00:23:50.319 --> 00:24:12.799 So um, you know, VIP might have their their set of requirements, and you know, we come to you know certain a certain agreement of like how we're compensated, where the the league actually airs, um, you know, what is needed, whether it's you know, graphics work, whether it's just commentary or just production, right? 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:20.240 So uh and then you know, depending on the potential reach, you know, different financial agreements can be made, right? 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:27.680 So I don't want to I don't want to say like, oh yeah, everybody just pays us like writes a check and gives us like you know a million bucks. 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:31.839 But um you're making a million dollars per league? 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:33.359 Breaking news right here. 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:34.000 You heard it. 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:34.960 Breaking news. 00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:41.759 My inbox is full already. 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:42.559 Yeah. 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.880 Need to drop this uh podcast and get into production. 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:49.440 Right. 00:24:51.359 --> 00:25:06.640 Really, it's really exciting work, and like it's funny because um because you you guys know, like obviously, right, like I I help with you know upshift, but I also help as like an independent, right? 00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:16.319 Like just as me to uh you know, IRO and and GTEch and S7R in that series as well, and uh with Red Bull Jr., right? 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:39.680 Like I'm doing that stuff as an individual, but like I think the days the days of my individual work are are quickly coming to an end here just because you know this upshift media entity was you know perfect for me because I was like a lot of people are coming to me specifically, and like I'm you know, I'm having to turn people away just because I don't have the time, right? 00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:41.440 Like there's only 24 hours in the day. 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:49.680 Yeah, so like putting it together with other people who are often in the same type of situation, especially for their specific roles. 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:53.920 Like Tati like does commentary for like a million different leagues, right? 00:25:54.160 --> 00:26:07.519 And uh, you know, for for them, it's like you know, just gotta figure out a way to balance the load with people that you you know are are good at the craft and that you can trust. 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:20.799 So um, you know, that's how Upshift Media came to be, and you know, that's why you know there's a lot of talks uh going on uh about it, and you know, I hope that you know we can keep that momentum going forward. 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:22.000 Yeah. 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:24.880 Now will they be

part of you should be good. 00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:27.440 Now will they be a part of NRL? 00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:31.680 Will it also be broadcast on that YouTube channel? 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:33.599 Not yet. 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:34.319 Okay. 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:42.880 So uh it's it's funny because you know the the other five owners are all involved with NRL in different ways already. 00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:47.359 Um you know, uh Sal's my deputy commissioner. 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:52.640 Uh Tati is part of the broadcast team, so Slow Mo Solo's been there since the beginning. 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.200 And TK's has also been there since the beginning. 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:58.400 Uh Papa is driving in in NRL. 00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:11.039 And uh, you know, I I told uh it's funny, when I when I joined the team, I told him I was like, listen, my my end game here, right, with with NRL is to eventually hire Upshift Media to do NRL for me. 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:19.279 So now I can just go to the bar and watch the races that that I came up with and then not have to touch any buttons. 00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.559 Not being production office anymore. 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.160 But you know that's that's probably a little bit away. 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:29.680 Yeah. 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:34.960 The end goal is to you know just be be the face and then have someone else do the work. 00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:36.079 Oh yeah. 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:38.640 That's the ticket right there. 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:47.519 I don't I don't know, I don't know when we'll get to that point, but you know, listen, if uh if we get like a hundred people signing up, then that might come sooner. 00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:48.319 Right. 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:55.359 And with all those extra hands, you could probably put on are you thinking about adding extra lobbies? 00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:56.480 Like a C. 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:04.799 Well, yeah, so so Division C is like one of the biggest, like hotly debated topics in NRL. 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.640 It's like, oh, we need a division C for like, you know, some of the slower guys. 00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:15.359 Like one person was like uh reaching out to me and they're like, yeah, we need it for like the older guys, we need a seniors division. 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:18.480 I was like a VR. 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:22.880 Okay, there's that too. 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.559 And like it really just depends on the demand, right? 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:33.759 So like you know, uh as it stands, there's 56 spots that move on to round one, right? 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:43.839 Yeah so if we have if we have 57 drivers sign up, right, then there's only one elimination between both days, and we don't we don't need a division C, right? 00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:45.279 Because there'd just be one guy in it. 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:57.839 So like you know, for me it's more like okay, 84 is the number I think that that would have three

full grids on two different days. 00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:58.240 Right. 00:28:58.400 --> 00:28:58.960 Right. 00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:08.160 And uh, you know, if we get to that point, right, then then I seriously gotta consider like, okay, firstly we have a division C. 00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:17.279 And then secondly, does Division C use the same settings as uh you know another division? 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:21.119 Uh and then you know, where does it air and when does it air? 00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:25.599 So like Yeah, is it a Sunday thing or Saturday evening? 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:26.799 Right. 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:33.279 And I I I wouldn't I wouldn't want to make the drivers drive on Sunday when they sign up for like Friday and Saturday, right? 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:38.559 The purpose of that Friday-Saturday thing is so that people can race when they're available, right? 00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:48.319 So like and the you know, EMEA guys, right, they they prefer often to race on Saturdays because that's like early evening for them. 00:29:48.559 --> 00:30:00.640 And uh the Friday nights, you know, that's usually you know good for mostly American, Canadian, right, Mexican uh drivers, um, and Australian drivers, right? 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:12.319 So like when we you know the times that we've had like uh Australian and New Zealanders, they've they've raced on Friday night because that's like Sunday, uh Saturday afternoon for them, or something like that, right? 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:12.960 Sunday afternoon. 00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:13.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:14.640 Saturday afternoon. 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:17.440 So uh so that worked for them. 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:25.759 Um so yeah, I mean it's I I maybe there could be a situation where like they record their race, right? 00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:31.119 We recorded on on the Friday or the Saturday, and then it airs on the Sunday, right? 00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:38.720 Or you know, something like that, or maybe it airs later in the day, either on my channel or on Upshift Media or or you know, wherever else. 00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.200 Um but until we get that demand, right? 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.240 Yeah, uh then there's not really a use case. 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:51.839 Yeah, so if you want that to happen, make sure you sign up because uh you know that's so that's the only way to tell me. 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:57.599 Like the only way to show me that we need a division C is to have the sign-ups. 00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:01.599 See, I don't I I like it that it's only the two divisions. 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:07.519 You know, you gotta fight your way in, you gotta make sure you put those times in, or you're gonna be eliminated. 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:09.759 You know, I think it makes it more special. 00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:17.119 Well, but again, if you have 84 people signing up, then it does call for a C division. 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:20.000 You know, or you got ninety-six people. 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:28.559 Yeah, it would definitely um call for a so like so like imagine like a hundred people sign up, right? 00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:34.000 So a hundred people sign up and sixteen still get eliminated, even if there was a division C. 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:34.160 Right. 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:43.839 So like you know, that could be there, but yeah, I wouldn't want to cheapen the suspense of pre-qualifying by just saying, okay, everybody can get in. 00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:45.119 Right, yeah, exactly. 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:54.000 Um make it so that yeah, there is some like, you know, skills, excitement, excitement to it, though. 00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.200 Like, yeah, you're not just enter, it doesn't matter what I if I show up or not. 00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:59.680 Um, there's still room for me, it doesn't matter. 00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:03.200 You know, you know, you gotta put on your best to get in with the best. 00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:03.599 Yeah. 00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:04.640 Well, like that's right. 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.880 You know, some veterans got eliminated. 00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:14.319 Yeah, I mean, names names that you would have never thought, right? 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:16.799 That got eliminated, got eliminated. 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:21.359 So you don't you don't bring your A game on the day, you're kind of you're out. 00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.680 Like, you know, I mean that's even with us sometimes. 00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:30.079 I'm like, yeah, we got the pace, but it's like when it comes down to it, do you got that enough to show up, you know? 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:31.279 Yeah, and qualifying. 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:43.440 Or do you or or do you end up overshowing up and and kind of you know screwing yourself and you know, and putting too much and like now you're just oh in over your head, you know. 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:45.759 Things like that happen. 00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:47.680 And you really do see that stuff. 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:58.720 So like Island Grown, like two seasons ago, I'm pr I'm pretty sure it was two seasons ago, he he got eliminated in pre-qualifying, and then last season he he qualified for eight qualified and got into his day. 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.720 So like, you know, like you see that stuff all the time. 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:28.319 And like I I think you know, one thing that had come up or that I that I hear about is like you know, oh well, you know, there's only there's only one day of of pre-qualifying, and you know, if you if you don't have a good day, then you know your whole season is changed or your whole season is lost, and you know, I I have some empathy for that, however, like that's real. 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:31.119 That's real life, exactly. 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:32.240 That's exactly it. 00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:38.720 Like you only got one shot in real life, then if yeah, there's enough time to prepare. 00:33:39.359 -->

00:33:43.119 Like everybody knows the year, there's a lot of time. 00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:47.440 Yeah, so like everyone knows it like a month ahead of time, right? 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:49.119 It's not going to change. 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.519 Uh, and you also get 25 minutes. 00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:55.519 So like a lap here, right, is like uh a little over a minute and a half, right? 00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:03.279 So, you know, you do some math, like you can get you know a good number of laps here in in this qualifying session. 00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:06.720 So like it's not like one shot qualifying, right? 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:11.519 Like you have an almost half-hour session to plenty of time, right? 00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:12.239 Plenty of time. 00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:16.880 Yeah, it's not GTWS where they give you four minutes on spa. 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:18.320 Exactly. 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:18.800 Yeah. 00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:26.400 You know, you actually get some time to put some laps in and yeah, yeah, earn your stripes as they're two. 00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:32.880 People can warm up beforehand, you know, take an hour, get warmed up, you know, before the lobby opens. 00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:34.400 All that good stuff. 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:35.199 Exactly. 00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:38.719 Practice for weeks, get yourself dialed for consistency. 00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:39.840 Great. 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:44.960 And I don't I don't want to say that like other types of qualifying are like terrible, right? 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:48.000 But like this is kind of like just what makes NRL different. 00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:50.159 And I think that's like what makes it great. 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:58.559 And like to to all of my fellow league creators and commissioners and and all those things, right? 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:19.039 The leaders of those leagues, like, right, when they when they talk to me before launching their you know, particular league, you know, they they ask me for like you know, pieces of advice, and like what I tell them is like everybody can do group three, the league at these five tracks, right? 00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.320 Here are the settings, here's here's the whole schedule, right? 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.760 And what what about it is special? 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:27.199 Why do I care, right? 00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:33.360 So like I think every league needs to have something that's a little bit different, right? 00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:37.199 That like entices people or you know, gets the competitive juices flowing, right? 00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:37.440 Yeah. 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:41.679 And I think that you know, the leagues that I'm involved with, you know, they all have that, right? 00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:59.119 Whether it's whether it's the race race length, or whether it's the uh the car that they use or the qualifying format, or you know, the week to week drop rounds, things like that, you know, like I think

that's that's all necessary in order to have a successful league. 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:00.480 Yeah, definitely. 00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.440 So who's uh this is how NRL does it. 00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.119 Yeah, if you don't mind who's running VIP, like who's the brains behind that? 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.519 We know like PhG, it's uh shaggy. 00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:13.840 I think it's you know is it Cyrus Nicky? 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:16.559 Well, it's left to Pasu. 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:17.199 Okay. 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:18.000 Oh, okay. 00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:18.480 He's the one. 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.599 He's like the the leader of of the league fortune. 00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:28.719 Um but yeah. 00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:33.360 Um Cyrus Nicky, you know, gets involved with like the the the production as well. 00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:36.800 And he, you know, all those crazy good intros that you see. 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.199 Yeah, dude, he's oh my god, incredible. 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:40.079 He's amazing. 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:40.800 Incredible. 00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:45.519 He made us something, and I need to figure out how to add it to the video part. 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:51.199 But yeah, thank you to Cyrus, because man, he makes some incredible stuff. 00:36:52.400 --> 00:37:00.800 Dude, and like it's funny to me because like I'm like I'm like, dude, I gotta, I gotta, like, I gotta get you into the fold. 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:14.880 And like when I try to get people into the fold, sometimes I have have like too good of a problem sometimes, where like I I ask somebody who you know is talented to help me with something, and they're like, oh, I can't. 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:16.559 Um I wanna drive. 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:21.360 And I'm like, man, everybody wants to drive in NRL. 00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.320 Nobody wants to like sit out and help me. 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.800 But it's like, you know, it's a it's a good problem to have. 00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:35.039 Like, you know, I'd rather that than than you know, nobody wanting to drive. 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:35.519 Yeah, right. 00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:36.000 Yeah, exactly. 00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:37.519 Then you want to have a league. 00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:44.880 So yeah, it it means that your league is successful when people would rather drive than do background stuff. 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:47.519 That's the kind of help of the product. 00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:50.400 I want to win this. 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:50.880 Yeah. 00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.679 Because he came close one year, didn't he, Cyrus? 00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.159 Uh no. 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:03.519 Yeah, season season six, he had pass of the season. 00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:04.159 That's for sure. 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:05.039 Yeah, that's right. 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:05.599 Yeah. 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:06.559 Yeah, he wants that. 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:11.920 Again, you can go to McDoddy gaming and check uh every season and every winner. 00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:12.960 Yeah, during that rally. 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:15.119 Well, I just that's right. 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:28.159 I just pulled up his entire so like you can go, so like anyone can go to McDonough.gg, look up previous seasons, and you can you can see all the races, but you can also look at a driver and their entire history. 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:36.159 So like I just pulled up Cyrus Nicky uh, you know, in the three seasons he participated in season six, season five, season four. 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:36.800 Right? 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:46.960 And uh, you know, he let's see, season four, he finished Wait a second. 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:50.079 Did I have this right? 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.039 He won he won season four. 00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:57.599 Oh he won season four, then he d the division B final. 00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:03.519 And then uh Division A final he made in season five and he finished seventh. 00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:10.079 And then uh he made the division A final in season six and uh finished thirteenth, unfortunately. 00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:18.400 But yeah, he uh he is a he's a uh he's a previous champion. 00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:19.119 Alright. 00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.639 He wants that A championship now, he's gunning for it. 00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:24.960 We better watch out, Jorge. 00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:27.599 Sarah Snicky's coming. 00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:29.840 Yeah. 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:35.440 Now is um so Sean, Sheld, and what player they're automatically in. 00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:37.039 Or not. 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:41.440 Uh let me pull it up because I did say it here. 00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:45.360 Guys got me on the spot. 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:49.679 And then it would be, I think, um we asked the hard-hitty question. 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:56.400 Then it would be Jorge Kai and Wid would automatically be in an A, I believe. 00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:00.000 Or it it's I think I did say it in the uh in the thing here. 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:00.480 Yeah, yeah. 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:06.719 Jorge Kai Alakos got in via the the the podium final, right? 00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:12.960 So the the podium finishers in the final get in, and then also the top three point scorers in the regular season. 00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:24.000 So those three got in based on their their uh final appearance, and then Wid also uh has an automatic uh Division A entry based on his point total. 00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:31.519 Uh so it's four, because uh you know Jorge and Kai also were in the top three point getters. 00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:33.920 Uh so it can be up to six drivers. 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:36.320 Uh so for Division A, it's those four. 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:53.840 And for Division B, right, who are automatically able to participate in the league, they can't be eliminated, are JP Skill, uh Sean, you, and uh Kaber for your uh podium in the final, and then Sheldologist and

Cole Trickle for point totals. 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:56.960 And I gotta say, poor Sheldologist, man. 00:40:57.599 --> 00:40:59.039 Oh yeah, can't catch a break. 00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:00.400 No break. 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:02.400 No. 00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:04.159 Yeah. 00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:08.320 Goes on vacation then last year. 00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:08.719 Yeah. 00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:10.239 Dropped. 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.639 So he he had almost well actually, you know what? 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.360 Yeah, he had almost a perfect season. 00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:18.480 Almost. 00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.599 So so he won every race, right? 00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:23.679 But he didn't get every fastest lap. 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:29.599 And the the statistical perfect season still hasn't been reached yet. 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:35.199 He and Jorge are the first two to get 100 points in the season, but the perfect season is 109 points. 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:35.840 Okay. 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:45.760 Uh so that that leads me into my my next point about like some of the feedback that I got was about the point scoring system. 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:50.000 So like up until last season we used F1, right? 00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:58.639 And you know, uh part of the feedback that was was given is that you know it prioritizes the winner by a lot, right? 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:10.079 If if the winner gets 25 points and then second place gets 18, like F1, then you know it's like you win a race and like you're automatically good, like no questions asked. 00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:24.159 Uh so we we we did some tweaks to make it slightly more linear, but like the key thing is that winners still get 25 points because I don't want to like tarnish like the legacy. 00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:31.840 Like I don't want to make it so that if somebody did have the perfect season, now they can't even get 100 points by setting the winner to get 14. 00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:36.159 Um so we brought those point values closer together. 00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:46.960 Uh P1 is 25, P2 is 22, P3 is 19, uh and then 16, 14, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1. 00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:52.960 So the only person who doesn't get any points is uh P14, or if you DNF. 00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:58.239 Um so it's a little bit closer together. 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:04.000 There is still some value for winning, but like it's not it's not that much better than second place. 00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:04.400 Right. 00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:11.920 Uh so we're gonna give it a shot, see how it actually ends up in season eight, and then you know, if we need to make some more tweaks, we make some more tweaks. 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.360 Because like what I don't want to do is like completely overhaul everything. 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:15.599 Yeah. 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.800 I think everything has to be like gradual to get to like whatever that sweep spot may be. 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:22.719 So this might not be it, right? 00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:24.079 But it might be. 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:27.119 Just depends on how the races go. 00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:28.079 Right. 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:29.119 Yeah. 00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:30.719 Yeah, I like to do scoring. 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.360 I I I think that'll um that'll definitely help and stuff. 00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:36.960 So I like it. 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:51.840 Have you had um since we've had this new update, have you had any people who are now hesitant or who wanted to back out because they don't like this new update and don't want to play Gran Turismo anymore? 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:57.280 I mean, knock on wood, I haven't I haven't had anyone uh say that. 00:43:57.920 --> 00:43:58.239 Okay. 00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:06.880 Uh I think that what I've seen in in our Discord server is like some people are like, Well, there goes my practice. 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:07.360 Right? 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:19.360 Like I I've been practicing since literally since the the moment I announced it, they were practicing that night, and they're like, Okay, now I gotta like recalibrate so like it's a week lost or something like that. 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:20.719 And I feel I feel bad about it. 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:22.159 It's like, no, it's not my fault. 00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:28.880 You gotta get to uh to cause you gotta change up your style big time. 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:29.679 Yeah. 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:30.239 Yeah. 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:45.679 Now how obviously I don't know if you obviously don't have the great amount of time, but uh with the new update, do you think you for yourself with what you have tested and probably written out affects your kind of base strategy lines for the for the league? 00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:48.000 That you're gonna have to go and redo it all? 00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:54.800 So the fortunate thing is, right, so one is that I have a team of dry testers along with me. 00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:59.599 So I don't have to there's nine there's 19 unique combos, right? 00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:05.679 16 in the regular season, two different finals, and then Friday and Saturday pre-qualifying are the same race. 00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:10.400 Um so nineteen different combinations that need to be tested. 00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:17.679 But we started our our testing to tweak the parameters after the physics change. 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:18.159 Okay. 00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:26.159 So unless they change it back, right, then then you know we should we should have a baseline. 00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:31.199 But I think like once once I set you know the final like multipliers, right? 00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:34.559 Once that is done and dusted, I'm I'm not gonna change it. 00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:34.960 Right. 00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:44.239 Um it may end up you know changing the dynamics of the race, but like, you know, that's just kind of how it goes sometimes, right? 00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:52.159 Like

there's only there's only so much that like is sensible to to try and do with this stuff. 00:45:52.480 --> 00:46:06.880 But like, you know, I'm I'm really thankful to you know the guys who stepped up to help me uh with that because for season seven, man, like just inner logos alone, you know, I was driving like over 200 laps to try and figure out you know what to do. 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:11.519 Um that takes up like so much time. 00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:12.400 Yeah, yeah. 00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:26.320 That's why I was wondering is because I know it's a lot of work for you, like it's a lot of races, a lot of divisions, and because the they're not the same race for everybody for the it's like there's four different races each weekend for the most part. 00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:30.320 So that's uh that's a lot of combinations to re-readjust for. 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:38.079 So like that's well, how did how did the changes change for S7R extravaganza? 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:45.679 Like, what was the game plan going in to the race Wednesday and then Thursday? 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:47.199 Well, what changed? 00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:52.480 Uh laps on tires, like the ability to go for forever on the tires. 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.559 So what was the hard tire? 00:46:54.719 --> 00:47:01.679 The hard tire was a little bit more closer to half the race kind of thing to be sensible on the tires and the tire wear. 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:05.840 And with uh after the change, you were I I pitted on lap ten. 00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:14.800 Some people were pitting on lap eight or nine on to get off the hards because you could go 15 laps, you could go almost 10 laps on the softs instead of like seven, eight. 00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:21.760 Like you it it really did change the but there's still some strategy there, but it took a little bit more out of it. 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:33.039 Um and the pace fall off, you didn't have to worry, you just had to worry about the tires drop once the tires were gone, kind of thing, because the pace never fell off like it did um with the old settings. 00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:39.599 So it was like, okay, you have to balance that tire wear and drop off to like, oh, I gotta get on the other tires because I'm slower than them now. 00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:42.559 You know, it didn't happen, it would just go until the tires let go. 00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:43.840 All right, get in the pits. 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:52.880 Yeah, because before, dude, those softs, once you got towards the end, that bottom half of those tires, you really had to start breaking a lot earlier, being careful. 00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:57.039 Last night, man, I just fucking gunned it the whole time. 00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:01.440 I held a little bit of time, but not much. 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:02.400 Yeah. 00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:04.639 Well, again, tread hit his right side. 00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:05.760 Oh, dude, it was gone. 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:06.800 It was gone. 00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:07.039 Yeah. 00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:07.679 Gone. 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:12.079 And that car should have spun or not turned or something. 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:13.039 Like nothing. 00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:13.920 Like there's so many times. 00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:15.920 And I literally had the camera on him. 00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:16.320 Yeah. 00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:22.480 I had the camera on him, and I was like, I'm just waiting for him to like be in the wall because like his entire right side is like gone. 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:23.920 Gone. 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.719 You could there was like the no instability in that car for the most part. 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:43.519 Like you could just hop like full throttle of the corners, and like coming up the hill that that hairpin, the car would get loose before you could spin it out real easy there if you got on too quick because of the way the corner banks uphill and the weight shift. 00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:46.079 Now you just come up through that corner, just plant it, and go. 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:51.519 Just all you had to worry about was a little under steer and sliding out off the track wide a bit or something. 00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:55.599 It was it was just like there was not to say no skill, but no skill. 00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.159 It was like the the only skill you had to just don't hit the wall, let off a little bit. 00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:02.960 Not to worry about it. 00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:12.239 When he went into that hairpin and hit you, um, I feel like since the physics changed, he was like, Oh fuck, dude, I just gotta crank it and I should be able to make this. 00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:20.960 But hit he did have his crank all the way to the left, and he still went straight into you a little bit, so there's still a little bit you want to be careful. 00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:22.079 There's a yeah, there's a lot of things. 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:23.360 I'll talk about it afterwards. 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:25.280 I won't say anything on on here about that. 00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:27.280 Yeah. 00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:28.159 Yep. 00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:29.519 Yep, yep. 00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:31.599 I've gone over the replay. 00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:41.280 Uh so but yeah, you know, but yeah, the physics of changes is is really in my it's like they changed the also the damage. 00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:44.719 Um, and I don't think we have the setting for it yet. 00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:51.519 They don't they like in the lobbies for it, but there's championship damage now, which is fully dynamic damage. 00:49:51.679 --> 00:50:00.559 So you get uh damage from like bump drafting, uh maybe not all the time, but if you know you give them a good bump, you're you're you're gonna lose arrow. 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:03.199 Um it's quick to repair. 00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:07.679 Um it's still repair, and then there's uh variable heavier damage. 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:15.599 So when you

hit the wall, your suspension, all that, and it it affects you, it's supposed to affect you more and longer, depending on how bad it is. 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:22.320 So if you graze the wall and just get a little bit of a bumper damage kind of thing, it'll go away pretty quick, but you're gonna have some arrow issues. 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:30.480 You know, if you actually hit it, you're gonna actually feel it in the wheel, pro apparently now, um, and it's gonna take a lot longer, and it's it could be even more impactful. 00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:41.119 And they're trying to take that as we're trying to eliminate dirty driving, all the bump and runs so that you get damaged and it it does affect you. 00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.920 So it's not smart to do that to people anymore. 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:51.360 But then they change the physics so that you can come from five positions back and just dive bomb the corner. 00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:52.639 You know what I mean? 00:50:52.719 --> 00:51:02.239 Because you can break at the 20 meters before the apex and just turn the wheel, like you know, like but that's the way it feels, it's gonna feel for a lot. 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:10.960 You're still there's still gonna be issues of like if you overdrive the car and slide it out, but you you don't have it it you don't have a lot of forgiveness. 00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:15.280 Dirty tires, yeah, dirty tires anymore. 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:20.000 It doesn't make you faster, it just gives you ability not to wreck as much. 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:23.440 Incredible speed. 00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:30.719 I would like I just for joke, even Todd and that shit and Sean saw it for the Red Bull at the Grand Valley. 00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.320 I was doing laps doing full turn crossed over my hands. 00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:34.960 Oh my god. 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:37.519 And just driving through corners and no problem. 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:47.039 Just I was losing time like crazy, but I was able to just go into the corner, completely snap my arms or like turn the wheel 180 and just drive to the corner. 00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:48.880 Fully accelerating. 00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:50.800 You know, like it's just like dun dun dun. 00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:54.559 And it wasn't even barely affecting the tire wear either. 00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:56.079 Yeah, it was wild. 00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:58.880 Like it, like the the grip and and uh the what they've done. 00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:08.239 Yeah, it's gonna be different in other cars, but you just you obviously tone that down a bit, and when you get to like group three and four, and it'll still do the exact same thing. 00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:16.159 You know and uh to to trying to snap the car out of the corners, it took me everything to get it to go, and it barely went. 00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:31.599 You know, like it the the stability factor has increased like times ten, so it's it's gonna promote more more bad sportsmanship, I think, in the main like lower lobbies. 00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:35.760 Yeah, I I I did go ahead, Todd. 00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:40.239 I I did man you um yesterday one race. 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:46.320 Um and after five laps, I'm like, oh my god, 15 more fucking laps and this shit. 00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:51.599 It was just I the race seriously could not get over fucking fast enough. 00:52:51.920 --> 00:53:04.719 Um I qualified 15th and finished fifth, but there is no technique, no skill needed to drive in this game anymore. 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:17.039 And a guy in a Ferrari uh going into turn one made a move that was impossible, but not with the new physics was able to make it fucking thick. 00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:25.599 And yeah, it it it's just um the only good thing about the update is the new damage thing. 00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:26.559 I like that. 00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:31.360 I I would prefer full damage, but at least it's a step in the right direction. 00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:37.360 But um I I have no interest in really playing this game anymore. 00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:44.159 The the the skill set has been taken away, and it's just um point and shoot and go. 00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:52.000 Well, I know well with the update, one of the things we got was new conversation sets with characters in the cafe. 00:53:53.119 --> 00:54:05.360 Chris talks about the Cade Room and the Toyota Mark II, Jeremy talks about the Toyota Chaser, and Stella talks about the new Hyundai ionic. 00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:07.039 Yeah, it's great. 00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:17.039 The BOP's fuck, so now it's a Genesis um or Hyundai, yeah, uh it's all the front engine cars. 00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:22.400 Yeah, but you get to talk, yeah, but you get a talk with Stella, Jeremy, and Chris about cars. 00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:25.280 In the I I mean, I'm excited about that. 00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:34.800 So, but the BOP they fucked up in group four, it became the Hyundai, uh Hyundai TC is the new dominant car. 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:41.440 So it it's just mind-boggling that a fake race car is the number one car. 00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:49.440 And then there was like Suzuki was in the top, Volkswagen, all these fake race cars are are all in the top 100. 00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:52.800 Here's what's been done physical simulation model. 00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:57.360 This should be yeah, this is this should be physics arcade model. 00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:01.039 The tire physics algorithm has been revised. 00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:04.159 Improved tire behavior during wheel slip. 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.360 Yeah, yeah, like lose grip. 00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:08.800 Yeah, yeah. 00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:13.519 Optimize a road surface and rolling resistance. 00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:18.159 Again, no braking, no slip and better braking. 00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:21.280 Revise tire heating and wear values. 00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:22.880 They don't wear. 00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:25.199 No temperature heating, nothing.

00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:31.599 Refine loss of grip when grip reduction when grip reduction off track is set to reel. 00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.880 Okay, so uh so I'm gonna say something about that. 00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:41.039 That I had the I so if you get two wheels off the off, it would normally go into like a breaking zone. 00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:44.079 I'll say this for Grand Valley versus corner chicanes. 00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:51.679 If you were going wide a little bit before and your any to your wheels touched the sand before, you had a problem. 00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:54.880 Now, you don't. 00:55:55.440 --> 00:56:01.039 But if you get four wheels off, yeah, you have a major problem. 00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:02.639 You're cooked. 00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:04.320 I'll say that. 00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:06.719 Four wheels off, you have a major grip problem. 00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.159 Do you think Dunlop has something to do with this? 00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:14.880 Could be, but how why would they want to be part of something that's all not even crucial? 00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:22.400 Well, you think they would be taking tire data from actual racing and trying to implement it into the game of their tires, like Michelin. 00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:23.840 Well, yeah. 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.639 Well, engine torque controls have been refined. 00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:31.119 What that means is the limited slip differential has been changed. 00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:38.159 Yeah, improved throttle response while while drifting, improved vehicle speed control under partial throttle. 00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:38.719 Yeah. 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:43.280 Yeah, it's because the the LDS is is working for you. 00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:50.559 Yeah, it's like you basically they they've changed it to it feels like your traction control's on two or three. 00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:52.320 Yeah, yeah, you can just hammer it. 00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:58.079 Oh, oh, oh, so I did so I did a test yesterday. 00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:02.000 I did a test yesterday when I was screwing around with the new physics. 00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:10.000 So I I brought my Mercedes, because I the AMG group three car to a full stop. 00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:21.679 I revved the shit out of the engine, I dumped the clutch, and there was no traction and there was no there was I had no traction control on and there was no wheel spin. 00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:22.480 The car just took off. 00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:30.000 I mean suspension and steering physics have been a right uh revised too. 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:36.960 Optimize steering geometry for each car to improve the simulation of cornering forces. 00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:38.079 That's a lie. 00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:42.239 It does not improve the simulation of cornering forces. 00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:49.599 Rework dampering cape uh characteristics to provide more natural body movement and road service tracking. 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.719 No, that again is a lie. 00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:56.880 What we want to say, McNaughty, sorry. 00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:02.719 So by improving it, they they think that just making it easier is an improvement. 00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:04.239 That's an improvement, yes. 00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:05.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:08.719 It's funny the wording they use though, and it changes. 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:15.760 There's a there's a couple of the spots where it kind of changes and says, like, to make it feel like real world kind of thing. 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:16.880 And it's just like, what? 00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:19.280 Yeah, maybe improvement. 00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:27.679 To improve the stimulation of cornering forces, it has it has not improved that. 00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:30.079 It is taken it away. 00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:33.599 Yeah, they've slowed the downshift a bit more as well. 00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:34.880 Which is fine. 00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:36.480 I have got no problem with that. 00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:39.519 But it's actually it's a little confident like that. 00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:41.679 I don't be a downshift guard. 00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:53.360 Well, the it and it also it uh certain cars as well now, you know, when you uh double up shift out of a corner, you have to be on throttle to make it work. 00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:56.960 That's specifically for the Red Bull 2019. 00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:00.800 Yeah, but they're gonna do that to other cars as well because there are yeah. 00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:04.639 Um default setup values have been revised. 00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:10.559 Initial suspension, initial differential, initial aerodynamics. 00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:12.960 All of those have been adjusted. 00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:17.760 Yeah, have you tried turning the ABS off yet? 00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:18.719 That's one thing I think. 00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:19.840 Uh digit did. 00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:20.320 Okay. 00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:21.280 Digited. 00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:23.039 And yeah, that's another thing. 00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:26.559 They changed that, and he's like, you can almost probably drive the car now without any. 00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.239 I was thinking maybe it would help make it feel better. 00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:32.559 So the brakes never luck. 00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:33.039 Yeah. 00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:33.440 Yeah. 00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:33.760 Yeah. 00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:34.159 Yeah. 00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:42.079 Well, it says uh the behavior of the traction control assist intervention has been optim optimized, whatever that means. 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.159 You don't need it anymore. 00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:45.679 You don't need it anymore. 00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:47.760 The car is traction control. 00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:52.159 I think I used plus one in the Porsche yesterday, and I could have probably been at zero. 00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:55.440 Or I would drive it like plus three. 00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:58.320

I know a lot of people like plus five in it or whatever. 00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:00.079 I just happen to use plus three. 01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:08.000 Slip ratio control, slip ratio control and corner braking behavior under ABS has been adjusted. 01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:08.880 Yeah. 01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:12.079 Like it doesn't even it doesn't matter. 01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:16.320 Yeah, you don't feel any ABS lockup or anything. 01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:19.280 It just slam on the brake. 01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.400 You just slam on the brakes and the car stops. 01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:26.480 There's no ABS kick in stuttering that makes your car slide or anything like that. 01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:31.519 It just it's just it's basically like no ABS without lockup. 01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:35.440 So driving without the ABS now is probably an option. 01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:37.280 Yeah. 01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:42.239 Because you might be able to get that slight lockup that helps you turn the car a bit or something. 01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:48.559 I'm not looking for it to turn on this PlayStation, but uh, I'm hoping you did. 01:00:49.119 --> 01:01:05.599 Yeah, I was hoping you had and get your opinion on it because uh I'm kind of it's kind of when you when you get on it as a as a driver and a razor, and like in in the f in that that you you know that it takes some skill to do things properly. 01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:09.199 When you get into this next, you'll be dis you'll probably be disgusted. 01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:10.559 Okay. 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.039 I gotta make sure I record my reaction then. 01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:14.559 Yeah, you should, yeah. 01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:16.719 You should do a reaction video. 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:20.880 Yeah, you should live reaction video and put it out there. 01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:21.760 You should. 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:27.360 Where have they adjusted shortcut penalty criteria to make it less strict? 01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:30.159 Yasmarina, they put in the barriers. 01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:31.039 Yeah. 01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:34.320 It's funny. 01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:36.239 It's done under penalties, it says, yeah. 01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:44.239 I I hopped on, I hopped on and was racing some Yasmerina, and boy, it sure does seem like I was still getting penalties everywhere I went. 01:01:44.960 --> 01:02:09.039 Well, they they put in the barrier because people, what they were doing is uh you'd get a penalty in the first section, a half second, and then you could cut this one section, um you'd still get a three-second penalty, but the time you made up by cutting the the sharp hair pin, you you made that time up so people had these incredible fucking lap times and shit. 01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:19.199 Yeah, you could basically get like five, five, six seconds of extra time off from the cut, and then you get a penalty, but it's still like I couldn't believe it's a good thing. 01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:27.440 I did a few laps and I was just like, how's like even people were doing it in like time trial? 01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:30.079 And they were doing it in time trial, yeah. 01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:33.360 I couldn't believe like how am I like multiple seconds off? 01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:35.280 My pace is not that slow. 01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:40.559 I know I'm kind of Red Bull Junior fucking mindset, but I'm not that slow. 01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:44.320 And then I realized I seen all the people talking about it. 01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:45.360 It's like, oh yeah, okay. 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:47.360 They're fucking cutting the fucking thing. 01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:49.199 There's always somebody cheating. 01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:49.840 Yep. 01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:50.880 Yep. 01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:53.599 Yep, that is that is the truth. 01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:59.440 So yeah, the the the the update was a downgrade, not an update. 01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:00.320 Yeah, for that. 01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:01.119 I'll say this. 01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:04.559 I'm not I'm not I'm not uh a controller player, but I'll say this. 01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:08.000 What I've seen they did for the controllers is actually good. 01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:21.360 Um the inputs, they used to be a fucking you if you put your foot down, like you know, squeeze the trigger for your throttle, whatever, full throttle, it would be like a s it was like a kind of a slow progressive input. 01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:26.880 It was like an automatic feathered in almost like to it, no matter what you did. 01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:33.519 And even the braking automatically kind of slow, it was really slow on the inputs, giving you like a slow input feed. 01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:44.559 And now you can still do that by slowly squeezing it with the like with the haptics net, but if you put your finger like foot to the floor, it's instant throttle or instant break if you want now. 01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:54.400 So that helps in the end, it doesn't matter because if you can really need that, you can throw your throttle down and and take as hard as you want. 01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:56.400 So it but it's made it better for them. 01:03:56.719 --> 01:04:05.360 Well, that's what I was just saying, as I think that's allowed them to controller players to be able to keep up right now with the new update. 01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:15.519 Because if they didn't make that change for the controller, people on wheels and that full throttle coming out of the corner, no oversteer, just fucking see you later, motherfucker, you kind of thing. 01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:23.440 The controller guy is gonna be doing the same thing, but it's gonna be like because they have that delay input on the controller. 01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:32.000 So they'd be they'd be like, what the fuck, you know, and more likely to probably die-bomb you because they know they're gonna be slow out of the corner compared to you. 01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:40.239 So what we're saying is

there was one good, maybe two good things in the update, other than I mean, three good things. 01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:42.800 We do get new conversations with people. 01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:46.079 Um it's it's a great one, guys. 01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:51.360 Umgratulations! Congratulations, Canada. 01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:53.599 Whistler in the scapes now. 01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:54.960 Yeah, thanks, thanks. 01:04:55.119 --> 01:05:02.400 I was gonna say one of the big things I was looking forward to was they've uh reset all the ranking boards in the music rally for us. 01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:04.320 Oh, yeah, they have. 01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:05.519 So can't wait. 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:11.920 Now I'm gonna have to go in, go into the music rally and and reset all of those times that I did. 01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:19.280 Yeah, they've also done that with the world more excited for have never been more excited for setting a new time in music rally. 01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:19.599 Yeah. 01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:20.320 Exactly. 01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:23.280 Like who like fuck many on the comma. 01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:31.760 I know what you guys are doing this week, but uh you can see that's where I'll be all week long redoing all my music rallies because I am nice. 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:33.519 It's the best, man. 01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:36.239 Jesus. 01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:40.719 Like yeah, so if you do have time, McDonald, do it, do a reaction video, please. 01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:41.360 Please. 01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:44.480 Um I think it would do very well. 01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:49.920 I think you're gonna be along the lines of every other major streamer out there. 01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:58.480 I would say test the McLaren, you know, or the uh AMG, excuse me, you know that car the best. 01:05:58.559 --> 01:05:59.760 That that's your go to. 01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:02.480 That would probably be the first card to test. 01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:06.000 Um and just uh yeah. 01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:18.800 I mean I probably would have ran that race, uh you know, the um the manufacturer's exhibition series, but all these leagues you you guys got me to win this uh this community. 01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:20.480 Oh yeah, don't tell you. 01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:24.719 Boy, was that exciting. 01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:27.760 It was that's not it that's not sarcasm either. 01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:34.079 That was I I went through and just did highlights of the race because I wasn't able to watch the whole thing because I was doing things last night. 01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:35.840 So wow. 01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:37.920 It was an exciting race. 01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:43.519 Yeah, no, it it really was, and uh, you know, especially. 01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:47.760 I'm always torn with that stuff, because like go ahead, sorry, go ahead. 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:50.880 I was just gonna say what Shreddy said he didn't practice at all. 01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:58.639 He got on, he did like the multiplier and just jumped on and was able to fucking do that now. 01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:00.639 Well, so um hats off to him. 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:06.639 I mean a little birdie told me that that might not entirely be the story. 01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:08.320 But no, yeah. 01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:13.679 If you listen if you listen, he's like somebody who mentioned I thought I saw you a couple of years. 01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:19.039 Yeah, but he was he was doing the j he said he was doing the junior with an engine swap. 01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:29.199 So totally different car, but again, still uh you you have familiarity with the everything that way too, so it's still not overly true. 01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:30.559 Yeah, and then we have to. 01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:35.199 I'll say, Mike, your qualifying time, your qualifying time was like out of this world. 01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:36.880 I was like, I was like, what? 01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:38.079 Mike was flying. 01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:40.559 Mike is flying right now. 01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:41.920 Mike is doing a great job. 01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:44.320 And how many times did you pass old man Pip? 01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:47.119 Three or three times during that race. 01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:51.920 Fucking after we after we had an a little incident that uh I won't get into. 01:07:52.559 --> 01:07:53.199 Yeah. 01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:59.840 Yeah, like it was Mike's job just to pass old man Pip as many times as possible in that race. 01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.480 Mike was just Mike was so fast there. 01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:06.239 Mike, Mike had a couple of uh incidents. 01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:19.680 So it definitely tune in to go to the McNaughty channel and tune into the uh tune in to the Red Bull extravaganza, the Red Bull Junior extravaganza, because it was an exciting race last night, that's for sure. 01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:22.000 Yeah, it went better than I thought it was. 01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:30.079 So I had uh some incidents here and things happen, butnot, but overall it was actually a pretty good race. 01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:34.800 Physics changed aside, the the whole thing, and that was actually pretty good. 01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:40.000 So I I practiced with you guys and I absolutely hate that track. 01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:45.920 Dude, to go in that direction with those cars, it was perfect. 01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:47.439 It was it was good. 01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:53.439 It was I just I hate the whichever direction I just at all. 01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:56.399 I don't like it either, but uh yeah, it was good overall. 01:08:56.880 --> 01:08:58.159 Especially the track I'm gonna do. 01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:04.319 Actually, Grand Valley Highway 1, the normal direction, is like one of my favorite tracks in this game. 01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:10.399 Oh, but it's a bullet to the airpin is like I don't know. 01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:14.640 There's something about it that I just like I I like it so much.

01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:19.680 I I don't like I don't like racing at Grand Valley, but I do like driving it. 01:09:21.039 --> 01:09:25.039 I think it's actually a very beautiful track, especially when you get the sunset in there. 01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:27.039 Um just driving around that track. 01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:28.239 It it's it's great. 01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:46.079 The flow of that track just does not racing, it's it is good, like doing say time trials, that kind of but it I me it probably just comes down in my mind like it's more like the the driving standards of the average person you end up having to drive there, and I don't like racing there because of that. 01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:51.680 Yeah, I I haven't liked I haven't liked the flow of that track from the first time I raced it. 01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:52.880 I just don't like the flow of it. 01:09:52.960 --> 01:09:56.159 I don't think it flows well, at least not for my driving style. 01:09:57.840 --> 01:10:01.520 You know, but I'm there's a couple of tracks like that in the game for me too. 01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:02.479 It's just like meh. 01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:03.039 Yeah. 01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:05.680 Good track, nice track, but yeah. 01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:07.119 Yeah. 01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:09.199 I I mean I have to agree with that. 01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:15.039 So so zero of ten points goes to the new update. 01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:16.000 Yeah. 01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:18.159 You know, we were hoping. 01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:23.199 I like a three or four. 01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:23.920 Alright. 01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:27.279 We'll give it a we'll give it a two out of ten. 01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:32.079 Because we got, I mean, we got new scapes, we got new competition. 01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:36.239 I gotta go at least two and a half to three because they got the music rally reset. 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:41.359 So the caterum is a good addition. 01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:43.760 Yeah, I like the caterum edition. 01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:46.399 The other cars are sort of sort of a eh, whatever. 01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:50.319 It's cool because it's it's Gran Turismo history and Japanese cult calls. 01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:52.000 I'm totally cool with that. 01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:53.680 Yeah, like that. 01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:55.279 Totally cool with those. 01:10:55.439 --> 01:11:00.399 Uh yeah, of course, we want race cars, but I have no problems with really the cars they brought out. 01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:03.520 Um we just got some race cars, so it's not the end of the world at the moment. 01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:03.920 There's no. 01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:10.560 Well, that's what makes me mad though the most is we just got those sweet hypercars and then they changed the physics. 01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:11.439 Yeah. 01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:12.479 That's what kills me. 01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:15.199 Uh, I'd be interested interesting to see how those drive. 01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:18.640 I want to get in those and go drive around and see how it's. 01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:31.439 The fact that well, Bob Agito, he won VIP and they were in the hypercars, and he's like, the physics fucking suck. 01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:31.920 Oh, okay. 01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:32.720 Yeah, yeah. 01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:33.520 What were they driving? 01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:35.039 What hypercar were they in? 01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:37.520 They were in the the newer ones. 01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:40.640 The race before was in the 16 models. 01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:41.119 Okay. 01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:44.720 Um, but yeah, he he's like, the update sucks. 01:11:45.439 --> 01:12:02.239 Yeah, it's no, what what we were expecting was a BOP change when it came to you know, bringing the cars closer together, and what they gave us was you know, after two years of not touching the physics, two years. 01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:03.600 Go watch Tijny. 01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:08.239 They haven't changed the physics in two years, and then they come out with this. 01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:16.319 See, and I thought they were gonna go the other direction, more towards iRacing and like ACC when they were talking about. 01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:18.319 But there might be a physics change. 01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:19.439 That's the direction I like. 01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:20.560 Windows is testing. 01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:22.319 Yeah, I I thought it was a lot of things. 01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:32.159 Well, supposedly they tested when all the guys were in Tokyo for the World Series live event during that week because they were at the studios of PD. 01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:37.600 That I heard down the grapevine that they were uh putting some testing in. 01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:41.439 But they also have their own version of the game. 01:12:42.079 --> 01:12:43.680 They don't play on GT7. 01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:52.960 So those guys in Tokyo, they they went there, right, and they tested at PD's lab or whatever, and they said, Yes, Kaz, this is good. 01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:53.680 Right. 01:12:54.239 --> 01:12:54.800 This is the same thing. 01:12:54.960 --> 01:13:00.560 Did they say that's because they thought it was good, or they said that it was good because they're like, Oh, I like coming up to World Series. 01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:04.159 That's well, I think that's there's a majority of them. 01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:11.520 I think majority of them got too complacent with and just happy to be there in that way that they just shut their mouth and being like, yep, yep, yep, yep. 01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:11.760 Yep. 01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:15.279 Too many yes men, and and that's why they're always there. 01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:17.199 Um and they get away with stuff. 01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:36.560 Like, because we've all seen things over the years, some of the the the OG drivers that are always there have done some pretty questionable things that if one of us ever got to the World Series and did it would never go back again

because of trying to promote fair play, but because it was the some of their star drivers, it nothing really happens. 01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:37.439 You know? 01:13:38.239 --> 01:13:40.960 They're like, we're in the house, we don't want to be disrespectful. 01:13:41.039 --> 01:13:42.159 I went, dude, this sucks. 01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:43.439 Judo chop. 01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:45.279 Yeah, right to the throat. 01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:52.800 Tap up you know, like digit wasn't happy with it, he wasn't happy with it. 01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:54.079 Yeah. 01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:57.920 Sammy Snake, I see why they did it. 01:13:58.159 --> 01:13:59.359 He's a you know. 01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:12.159 Uh oh, I can definitely see why they did it because they pandered to the masses, and the masses of this game, like we said about the other day, was the how many like there's what, 20, 30 million copies of the game? 01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:13.199 I don't know, maybe a multiple. 01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:16.479 It's like 15 million. 01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:18.319 15 million copies sold. 01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:25.039 Uh the majority a lot of sold like single player mode people, plus all the online racing is a small part. 01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:27.359 There's two million monthly. 01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:34.560 Yeah, and 1.3 1.4 million of low B, C, D drivers, the average person. 01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:35.840 No, not a problem. 01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:44.319 And what they did is made it so that it makes the game easier so they can have a better race for what their your level is. 01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:47.760 Who's the voice for those people, right? 01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:54.479 So like yes, the B and the C drivers, yeah, the vast majority of drivers in this game are at that rank. 01:14:54.800 --> 01:15:03.840 But the the the loudest voices are the people and the people who have the most following or the largest following are A plus drivers, right? 01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:04.079 Yeah. 01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:10.960 So like who A plus drivers are the ones that the A plus drivers are the ones that are advertising their game. 01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:11.920 Yeah, exactly. 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:19.680 But who's who's telling them that hey, us B and C and D drivers are are we need help? 01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:21.439 Like who's the guy who's saying that? 01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:21.760 Right? 01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:23.600 Like, is it like someone like Just Hun, right? 01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:27.279 Just Hun is like a B or C driver or something like that, right? 01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:33.359 Yeah, well that's kind of like what it's it's kind of depending on your follow, like in a way. 01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:36.399 Like, so someone like Digit, I think, and like even uh Tizny. 01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:43.039 And Tijny come out saying it's it's dog crap. 01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:49.439 Because they're uh like A plus higher competitive drivers. 01:15:50.000 --> 01:16:05.760 And uh not all are the greatest drivers under their like communities, but they're all people in their communities are there because they're trying to become more say elite, better drivers, uh higher standard quality driving with all the guides and and and teachings and stuff that they do. 01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:23.920 And then on the other side, the other ones that are say more entertaining and creative, like I love I love Rory to death, but his community is filled with the drivers that needed the help that aren't in there to be elite drivers, they just they're just there to follow him and that, and then like to build a nice friendly community. 01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:28.560 And those are the ones that he's like, even you know, he's not against it because he's gonna be. 01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:30.960 I asked Rory Friday morning what he thought. 01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:40.399 Yeah, because he's not trying, he doesn't want to discourage and and turn away his average Joe community. 01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:41.680 He's trying to get 500,000. 01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:43.920 I'm not saying average Joe in a bad way. 01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:49.199 They're there it's a it's a very it's the majority of the Grand Turismo drivers. 01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:58.319 I mean, not that when have you when have you seen Rory take a stance? 01:16:58.640 --> 01:16:59.840 Like that's right. 01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:03.199 He did he did once two years ago. 01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:04.079 Yeah. 01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:13.359 Because he paying, he caters he caters to that 1.3 million that are the low B C D drivers. 01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:15.039 And nothing yet, it's great. 01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:19.520 People, like everybody needs their their their period, like yeah, it's I I love him for that. 01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:25.520 But what what was what was the stance that he took? 01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:28.159 Um I can't remember. 01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:39.520 I think it was it was the when they I can't remember if it was a BOP update or a physics update that they had a couple years ago, and he was against it. 01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:43.600 He was like so then maybe he just feels that way too, right? 01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:44.239 Yeah, yeah. 01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:49.520 Like if he was able to say that like back then that it was like bad, then like you know, maybe just think about it. 01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:57.439 Also back then, he didn't he wasn't going for 500,000 subscribers, too. 01:17:57.600 --> 01:17:58.159 Yeah. 01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:08.720 It's not to say that he's not like he's very he's very neutral, he keeps things very neutral, like and tries to be the positive and the negative kind of thing. 01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:18.560 So that's why you never really have him taking, say, a strong stance in that aspect, because he doesn't want to alienate, he's trying to be that big community. 01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:22.319 You know, I mean when he started, he he was just there. 01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:29.199 Now he's

got the vast majority of GT viewership easily. 01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:33.920 He also has a family to feed and exactly controversy. 01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:36.000 He he put everything into it. 01:18:36.319 --> 01:18:45.840 He's gotta go all out, and the only way to go all out is to kind of be that neutral thing, like in and not be too like positive negative to anything at all. 01:18:46.640 --> 01:18:49.520 I mean, well we see we've seen what that can do for the city. 01:18:51.119 --> 01:18:56.880 But you can see it in him if you watch see him in the streams and that you can see where he's just like no. 01:18:57.439 --> 01:19:02.800 But he bites his tongue, you like you can see it in his face, like he doesn't necessarily hide it in that way. 01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:05.119 Is he on the payroll with PD? 01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:07.119 No, I don't know. 01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:12.079 I don't think necessarily, but uh he'd be probably pretty pretty close. 01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:13.840 Yeah multiple times. 01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:14.479 Yeah. 01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:14.960 Yeah. 01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:15.439 Yeah. 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:18.880 Well, is super GT on the payroll? 01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:20.239 I don't think so. 01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:23.359 If he's not on the payroll, he's super close to it. 01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:27.359 He's not yeah, but he's not really into it lately himself. 01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:34.720 Yeah, I mean Pete would want to, you know, save his graces because he's the largest content in a million years. 01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:39.680 Well, yeah, I'd be surprised if they didn't ask him and Jimmy to be testing this. 01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:40.640 Yeah. 01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:43.039 Well, we talked about this the other day too. 01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:46.880 Don't ask Jimmy to test it because he'll tell you the test. 01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:47.520 Oh, exactly. 01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:55.039 That's the problem, is it'll be the super big conflict because he'll tell you it's straight out, you just put out the biggest dog shit fucking thing in the world. 01:19:55.279 --> 01:19:58.880 And because he's already kind of we talked about this the other day on on air. 01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:00.239 Like, what the fuck is going on? 01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:01.520 What the hell is that? 01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:03.680 Like, basically on air multiple times. 01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:05.840 I hope this week he does test the game. 01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:07.439 I hope I do too. 01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:10.239 Because he was playing GT5 and shit. 01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:12.079 Playing the old stuff. 01:20:12.319 --> 01:20:14.239 Well, yeah, wonder why. 01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:20.239 Because he may maybe he had access to early as well because he's part of the team. 01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:20.960 Like, you know what I mean? 01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:23.039 And he was just like, you can't put this, you can't be serious. 01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:25.039 Oh, yeah, just shut your fucking mouth, kind of thing. 01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:31.199 Because I mean he's just losing parkour people, the PC and going to iRacing still. 01:20:31.439 --> 01:20:35.119 I mean, this is just gonna push more people go in that direction. 01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:39.920 But not on a lot of their numbers stay the same. 01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:41.680 Every month it stays the same. 01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:55.279 And they're like, do we're gonna lose we're gonna get even more people now because one thing maybe it's going to probably change the landscape of, in a way, of the GT World Series stuff. 01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:59.680 Because the the people that will walk away will be those top drivers. 01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:00.000 Right. 01:21:00.319 --> 01:21:01.279 Handfuls of them. 01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:05.520 Um I didn't see Simon playing. 01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:07.680 He didn't he didn't play Saturday night. 01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:15.359 Well, I'm curious to see Singapore now and see how those cars react and all that shit. 01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:21.520 I'm wondering how different their game is compared to ours. 01:21:22.399 --> 01:21:24.399 The top layer was Windfire. 01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:26.079 Yeah, it's different. 01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:27.119 It's a different game. 01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:28.800 Whole different structure. 01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:34.880 Well, and then going back to I played a I I just decided to hop in and do a little bit of ACC. 01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:35.760 Oh my gosh. 01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:36.159 Right? 01:21:37.119 --> 01:21:40.479 Number one, my my steering wheel feels dead. 01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:43.279 Steel feels dead in Gran Turismo. 01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:49.760 Other than the little then uh other than the little road uh feel that you get. 01:21:50.159 --> 01:21:54.159 Um and you even get feel through the steering wheel for the the front wheels. 01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:57.600 Other than that, it's crap. 01:21:57.760 --> 01:21:58.319 It's crap. 01:21:58.399 --> 01:21:59.439 It's a numb wheel. 01:21:59.600 --> 01:22:01.840 And when I hop into ACC, guess what? 01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:02.560 It was not a numb. 01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:04.960 Boy, it was really doing exactly what was happening. 01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:08.720 Me and Ty were like, dude, oh my god, it's so powerful. 01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:09.760 Night and day. 01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:15.279 I was downloading it and they were in there driving, and it was like the only thing right out of Sean's mouth right away. 01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:17.359 It was like, oh my god, the feedback of this thing. 01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:18.960 Dude, it's insane. 01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:25.279 Dude, the amount of feedback in it and the amount of ability to really screw things up. 01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:30.880 Oh yeah, we lost it and totally wrecked the car to where my steering wheel would not go straight. 01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:32.960 It would not turn left. 01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:34.479 Yeah, hit

the garage. 01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:35.439 Big yeah. 01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:37.680 Oh, dude, it was it was insane. 01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:38.960 Yeah, losing the car. 01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:41.760 Oh, you had to be easy on that throttle. 01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:43.520 Come on corners. 01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:44.880 Yep, yep. 01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:47.760 I still haven't finished my career, so I was like, Brands hatch. 01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:48.640 Oh my gosh. 01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:52.720 Brands hatch in the uh Merc in the AMG. 01:22:52.960 --> 01:23:02.479 Oh boy, number one, that car, I not being in VR, whoa, Rand, it really throws you. 01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:08.319 It's I have to watch I have to be in VR in cinematic mode to play that game because I don't have a monitor. 01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:11.760 Dude, it took like at least 20 minutes to mount it. 01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:12.880 It took a long time. 01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:23.439 I mean, I was setting some good lap times, but it'd be like good lap time, and then next lap I'm off in the dirt because I didn't break soon enough or I accelerated too quickly. 01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:25.279 You know, that's that's how it was. 01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:28.479 Unlike just turn the wheel more. 01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:29.840 Yeah. 01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:40.560 And the feeling of when you turn the wheel too far in that car, and you could feel the complete loss of grip when you turn it too much. 01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:41.920 You know, it was great. 01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:43.680 Which we had kind of before. 01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:44.479 We did. 01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:45.039 Yeah. 01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:46.079 Yeah, we did. 01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:46.319 Yep. 01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:47.039 I missed the old. 01:23:48.239 --> 01:24:02.880 Now we're reverting to a game non-VR, which we said we'd never do because we just want to drive and have that feeling again, and to know you need to build some skill to actually drive the car properly, not just foot to the floor, crank the real as hard as you can. 01:24:03.279 --> 01:24:06.079 Cross your fingers for LMU and VR. 01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:08.399 Yeah, they've said they're not real interesting. 01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:13.600 No plans. 01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:14.319 That's sad. 01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:15.600 No plans. 01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:18.880 And it's I think we we talked about it. 01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:26.560 I think it's because uh PD and Sony and that like they they don't want to open up the the platform of racing to VR. 01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:28.880 They want the Grand Charismo, the good stuff. 01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:29.520 Yeah. 01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:34.319 Because they got some other crappy VR games for driving on the street, but that's it's sad. 01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:43.920 That alone the non-VR on console for any other racing game, really, is the one factor I bet there's still a lot more, even single player people. 01:24:44.079 --> 01:25:06.960 Like they could

lose probably a good chunk of um people for VR alone in driving, if like ACC, like a lot of single fucking right, they go over and play the single player campaign, do your own little single player campaigns all the time in in different cars, you know, because it's actually a a great adjustable skill level with AI and everything as well. 01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:20.720 The average person is not gonna be ought to go on ACC, learn how to do all the stuff, which is a little hard, but learn how to do it with through the practice and training it gives you, and still do top-tier AI in that game. 01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:24.560 Oh, dude, yeah, that AI is so hard in that game. 01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:27.840 And you think the PowerPoint Shorter 3 is? 01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:31.199 ACC's AI is way, way, way better. 01:25:31.359 --> 01:25:31.680 Oh yeah. 01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:35.439 A lot of people did not race um manual complicated. 01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:36.880 Do we have stats for that? 01:25:37.279 --> 01:25:38.880 Is there stats for that race? 01:25:39.199 --> 01:25:39.359 Okay. 01:25:39.840 --> 01:25:40.000 Yeah. 01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:46.640 The top Porsche was um what do you score? 01:25:46.800 --> 01:25:50.159 Like two hundred and fifty-one points? 01:25:56.399 --> 01:26:01.359 Uh 241, excuse me, was forty-six was the top horsh. 01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:09.920 Um fire and four hundred and sixty-six are they still landing a hundred points? 01:26:12.239 --> 01:26:12.560 They are. 01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:13.039 Okay. 01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:20.640 And then some guy Amaya and a Subaru 449, and Daka and a Ferrari 422. 01:26:21.119 --> 01:26:23.359 Carson, I know Carson raised with him. 01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:25.119 He's got 415. 01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:26.960 He was fourth. 01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:34.399 Um yeah, there's hardly any names that I recognize in here. 01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:43.600 So people hopped on and didn't like the update, so they decided not to do manufacturers. 01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:58.239 I would have been more jazzed for manufacturers if they had done an update and they had, you know, taken a little bit of power away from the Porsche and Ferrari made things a little bit closer, I would have been I would have been happy to. 01:26:58.479 --> 01:27:05.039 I and I I had set my mind on going AMG anyway, because it's not a bad car, and I'm pretty, you know, I can I can drive it. 01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:08.560 So I have a question, Todd, quickly. 01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:16.000 If you know you might know this, is the couple guys that were super that that uh ranked high, were they in the WRX or the BRZ? 01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:18.079 I believe the BRZ. 01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:22.319 Well, the Genesis ten out of the top 20 are the half-screen. 01:27:22.479 --> 01:27:23.039 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:32.159 But I'm just wondering, because I was thinking with the physics change the way it was, I'm in my head the other day, I was thinking that that BRZ might actually be a really good car now. 01:27:32.479 --> 01:27:40.479 Because yeah, it's a little slow, but its ability through the corners to carry speed in that is phenomenal, but it's a little sketchy. 01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:44.880 If it's not sketchy, that's that's exactly what I was thinking. 01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:51.760 If it's more uh all the cars more stable, it might f rip through corners now, like there's no tomorrow. 01:27:52.079 --> 01:27:54.159 And just be slow on the street on the streets. 01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:56.800 Well, there was only top twenty. 01:27:57.119 --> 01:27:59.680 Yeah, I see yes, I mean, but I see I see uh two of them. 01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:02.880 In in the on the not top 20, but I see yes. 01:28:03.279 --> 01:28:10.399 So I'm just not saying it's going to be a dominant car, but that car could be very competitive now compared to a lot of other cars as well. 01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:12.960 Because I'm thinking about that handling issue. 01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:14.479 That's one of the reasons I don't like it. 01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:20.560 I love Hollis. 01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:27.439 Hollis goes, I go and spend all this money on new steering wheels, and this is what happens to the game. 01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:30.319 He goes, Why does something happen? 01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:35.600 Every time I get you something for your rig, something happens to the game that makes you not want to race. 01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:42.640 And we still have Red Bull to keep doing. 01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:46.000 You know, so I mean, I'm like, don't worry. 01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:46.640 Don't worry. 01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:47.840 The wheel will be used. 01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:49.439 The wheels will be used. 01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:53.279 The top ranking for the Nissan is 196 coins. 01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:55.439 Um yeah, like we'll be doing. 01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:05.920 I I used Porsche in one of my accounts, and then I picked Nissan because I thought that's what Jermaine was going to use. 01:29:06.319 --> 01:29:11.760 Um but uh I I didn't use it, so I just used the Porsche in my European account. 01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:13.279 How did the Porsche feel? 01:29:13.439 --> 01:29:15.199 Dude, I awful. 01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:17.520 Super under steery. 01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:18.159 Yeah, dude. 01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:24.479 Dude, I'm looking at the AMG rankings and I see that it's uh Marvin is uh at 215. 01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:24.960 Yeah. 01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:27.279 I mean AMG score in our region. 01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:28.319 Yeah. 01:29:28.479 --> 01:29:28.640 Yeah. 01:29:28.960 --> 01:29:31.199 I'm like, I'm like, let me let me log in real quick. 01:29:31.359 --> 01:29:31.520 Yeah. 01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:34.079 Right. 01:29:34.319 --> 01:29:34.800 No offense. 01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:36.479 No offense. 01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:40.800 Dude, total players 25,953 for that race. 01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:41.920 That's down a bit. 01:29:42.399

--> 01:29:43.600 Oh yeah. 01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:46.720 That's what you get. 01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:49.279 That's what happens when you do something like this. 01:29:52.239 --> 01:29:59.439 I was gonna say, I was gonna say that's usually like daily races, you know what I mean, like kind of thing, which are usually pretty low compared to the the attendance. 01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:07.359 I think we've had like um not that that it's that's a lot, but I think it was c it's usually closer to like 100k. 01:30:08.079 --> 01:30:13.760 Okay, let's go to Suzuka then participants in July when they last oh shit, that was even lower. 01:30:14.079 --> 01:30:18.800 17,000 for the last event in July. 01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:21.039 This is this is what I'm worried about. 01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:34.720 I'm worried that with the McLaughlin League starting, that they're either going to do I'm hoping they do an update, but I hope they do it after qualifying, or I hope they do it in the next week or two. 01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:38.720 I hope there's some adjustments. 01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:39.760 There's gotta be. 01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:42.159 There's gotta be some adjustments done. 01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:48.159 I think if they're gonna do it, they're gonna do it right after the uh the manufacturer comes in. 01:30:48.239 --> 01:30:53.359 Right before the the nations, because nations is probably gonna come right after this. 01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:55.039 Yeah, so I think that I agree. 01:30:55.359 --> 01:30:56.239 Is that Thursday? 01:30:56.399 --> 01:31:04.000 So yeah, so that Thursday, if it comes that Thursday, that means that the next day is NRL pre-qualifying. 01:31:04.239 --> 01:31:06.640 Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's what I'm worried. 01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:07.840 That's what I'm worried about. 01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:13.600 That that you do all this practice getting used to the new physics, and then they do the update. 01:31:13.840 --> 01:31:14.319 Yeah. 01:31:15.119 --> 01:31:42.399 And then pre-qualifying the next day, which means I mean everybody's on the back foot, but for those who are able to hop on to practice, which sometimes I'm not able to, you know, I gotta I gotta say though, for for the guy so like uh for Sean, like your situation, if you if you pre-qualify early and then there's a physics change, then we'll have to redo it after just to make sure you're on the same situation as everybody else. 01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:44.640 That that's the caveat with that stuff. 01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:48.720 Okay, it'll have to wait till I get back because I'm gonna be gone for a week. 01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:52.239 I leave the we'd still have you do it, right? 01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:55.600 We don't know if it'll change or not. 01:31:55.760 --> 01:31:55.920 Right. 01:31:56.159 --> 01:32:00.399 But we'll just we'll still do it, but then if we find out that it changes, we'll have to have you do it again. 01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:02.560 Yeah, once you get back, you'll have to redo it. 01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:04.399 Yep, that works for me. 01:32:04.640 --> 01:32:04.960 Yeah. 01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:15.760 If anybody like me, I'm only gonna be doing league stuff unless they can revert things and make things where they should be, not back into the fucking Stone Age fucking stuff. 01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:19.359 Um yeah, dailies are a bust. 01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:20.319 Oh, yeah. 01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:27.920 I mean, with the amount of outrage, right, that that a lot of you know prominent voices in the community have had about this, right? 01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:31.039 Like, there's no way they can just be like, okay, this is gonna be good for two years. 01:32:31.279 --> 01:32:31.680 Right, yeah. 01:32:31.840 --> 01:32:31.920 Right. 01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:32.640 Like they did last year. 01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:34.239 Well, that happened on the last one. 01:32:34.399 --> 01:32:36.159 The last change they did with the physics, right? 01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:40.159 They went real hardcore, people didn't like it, so they adjusted. 01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:41.840 They toned it back a little bit. 01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:45.039 A little bit, and then I mean it was good. 01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:46.079 I didn't mind. 01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:48.720 It wasn't perfect, perfect, but it was good. 01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:51.279 At least there was consequences for your actions. 01:32:51.520 --> 01:32:58.079 Yeah, at least the driving made sense and was somewhat realistic. 01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:12.000 If you were to put a side-by-side video of a real car versus a GT7 side by side, the breaking points are the same, throttle input, it was all very clustering angle. 01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:14.079 Now it it doesn't even mimic that. 01:33:14.159 --> 01:33:16.560 It is it doesn't even matter, it doesn't really matter. 01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:23.439 Yeah, the the the art of of of like braking and acceleration and and cornering is gone. 01:33:23.680 --> 01:33:24.319 You know what I mean? 01:33:24.399 --> 01:33:28.720 Like you could be all these people that told this you would show you the how to turn in properly. 01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:30.239 It's like I don't give a fuck anymore. 01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:31.439 Turn the wheel. 01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:37.680 That's why on on the last physics update, why I was so annoyed by like group four races. 01:33:37.840 --> 01:33:44.720 Like I never wanted to like be in group four because I was like, oh, I could just like put a brick on the pedal and I'll be alright. 01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:46.159 Yes, exactly. 01:33:46.399 --> 01:33:47.199 Yeah, group three. 01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:49.439 Everything is turned towards group four now. 01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:51.279 Yeah. 01:33:54.399 --> 01:33:56.720 When they nerfed the group three cars, right? 01:33:56.800 --> 01:33:59.119 When they all made them all slower. 01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:02.319 I was like, oh my god, dude, what are we doing? 01:34:02.479 --> 01:34:04.640

Like we need to go the other direction. 01:34:05.279 --> 01:34:05.840 Yeah. 01:34:06.159 --> 01:34:06.640 Yeah. 01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:07.199 Yeah. 01:34:07.279 --> 01:34:14.000 We need to be looking at current lap times for current lap times for GT3 cars. 01:34:14.479 --> 01:34:18.000 The cars equal, equal, equal, and see what the lap times are. 01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:27.840 If we're doing close to those lap times in Gran Turismo 7 as you're doing in real life, then you've gotten you've gotten pretty close to what it should be. 01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:30.239 That's what that's what they should be going off from. 01:34:31.199 --> 01:34:39.520 Right, but if so the lap times can be like made to get to you know close to whatever the total lap time is on a particular circuit. 01:34:39.840 --> 01:34:43.600 But what what the problem is is like the feel of it, right? 01:34:44.159 --> 01:34:51.439 Like if you if you can just stomp on the on the throttle and stomp on the brake to get that, then like it's artificial. 01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:53.520 It is artificial, totally artificial. 01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:54.319 So yes. 01:34:54.479 --> 01:35:04.479 So what's what what's more important in my mind is like not not that the if if a if a lap is one minute and five seconds that you get one minute and five seconds, it's how you got to that lap time. 01:35:04.640 --> 01:35:05.199 Yeah, no, no, no. 01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:06.800 What did you need to do to get there? 01:35:07.119 --> 01:35:08.079 Yeah, absolutely. 01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:09.199 Absolutely. 01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:10.640 Yeah, it's retarded. 01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:18.640 Well, what sucks is what sucks is to get two new beautiful Fanatech uh club sport wheels that are amazing. 01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:24.640 And then and then ECC. 01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:25.520 Yeah, there's other games. 01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:27.680 Oh no, absolutely. 01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:33.520 You know, you spend your time customizing the wheel, getting the paddles right, where everything is perfect. 01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:44.319 And then you you get this game and it's just like you can't, you know, you're just turning you're just turning a rim because there's no real feedback from the cars. 01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:48.800 There's you don't get the enjoyment of driving. 01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:50.239 You don't get the enjoyment. 01:35:50.399 --> 01:35:54.800 I'm sorry, there is no enjoyment in driving these cars at all. 01:35:55.439 --> 01:36:08.079 I mean, Mike and I on Thursday were just blasting into corners and hitting our brakes and just seeing what the limits were, and I was like, I I mean, a hundred meters closer to the corner is what we were breaking. 01:36:08.479 --> 01:36:08.960 How? 01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:10.159 How? 01:36:10.640 --> 01:36:11.199 Why? 01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:12.319 It was wild. 01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:14.960 Well, that was like Friday. 01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:21.439 We were having a practice, and then 20 minutes

into it, Bells was like, Yeah, this is no fun. 01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:22.720 I'm gonna dip out, guys. 01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:26.239 And me and Todd are like, dude, I just I can't I can't do it right now. 01:36:26.479 --> 01:36:34.399 No, it's there's no there's no the because the fun the the fun is driving the car on the line. 01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:37.119 There is no line, they've taken the line away. 01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:40.239 Oh yeah, yeah, you know, push the limit. 01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:43.279 The skill gap has been negated. 01:36:43.600 --> 01:36:52.880 You know, it's given everything to the people that don't have a lot of skill, and it makes that them better than they their skill level actually is by far. 01:36:53.520 --> 01:37:03.199 And it takes all the fuck all that extra skill and practice and things that we've all learned and taken it all away from us, and it's brought everybody together kind of thing. 01:37:03.279 --> 01:37:06.640 It's like in a way, and you can't teach new tricks, man. 01:37:06.720 --> 01:37:07.119 I need to see. 01:37:07.439 --> 01:37:13.520 It's handicapped the actual drivers and forzed the fuck out of it for everybody else. 01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:14.159 Yeah. 01:37:14.399 --> 01:37:25.359 You know, it's and I at the same time I understand why it's not right, uh it's retarded, and I think even like the casual driver will get tired of it. 01:37:25.680 --> 01:37:30.319 It might be good for them and they oh yeah, but the the fun, the enjoyment that is gone now. 01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:31.680 They'll start losing interest. 01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:36.560 Trying trying to control a car that is difficult to control. 01:37:36.720 --> 01:37:41.840 Not that the Red Bull Juniors are difficult to control, but the Red Bull Juniors will bite you if you do something wrong. 01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:42.319 Yeah. 01:37:43.520 --> 01:37:45.520 I mean they will seriously bite you. 01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:52.800 So but like like McNaughty said, who was in Kaz's ear that was begging for these fucking changes? 01:37:53.359 --> 01:37:53.920 PlayStation. 01:37:55.119 --> 01:37:55.920 I think PlayStation. 01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:58.239 They want more numbers. 01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:01.680 And that's the million dollar question. 01:38:02.239 --> 01:38:04.000 Who was calling for this shit? 01:38:04.319 --> 01:38:06.239 Especially on a game that's God. 01:38:06.319 --> 01:38:10.319 I wish we could have him on and ask him that. 01:38:10.720 --> 01:38:12.479 Sony strong arm anybody? 01:38:13.119 --> 01:38:13.920 What's happening? 01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:19.680 It's it's just so bizarre because they're like, oh, okay, so so look at it from this perspective, right? 01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:22.640 So Sony, let's say Sony is strong arming him, right? 01:38:22.720 --> 01:38:26.880 And they're like, you gotta make this game easier because it's gonna drive sales to the roof. 01:38:27.119 --> 01:38:29.680 Sony doesn't have a great track record, you know. 01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:35.199 Like when they're talking about like getting rid of physical copies of games and the outrage of that, right? 01:38:35.359 --> 01:38:42.720 Like there's like they they don't have like a recent history that you know inspires like confidence in like what they say. 01:38:42.880 --> 01:38:48.399 So they're gonna they're gonna go and they're gonna tell Polyphony Digital, like, hey no, you need to make this easier. 01:38:48.479 --> 01:38:50.960 It's gonna get people to buy it for sure. 01:38:51.199 --> 01:39:00.960 And then the first thing that happens when you roll out these updates is that your top players, your most well-known players and content creators, all say that this is crap. 01:39:01.039 --> 01:39:02.800 Yeah, like yeah. 01:39:03.199 --> 01:39:06.560 Come on, like we're not gonna learn our lesson here, right? 01:39:07.520 --> 01:39:13.600 Well, today's actually the 23rd through the 30th is a boycott of PlayStation. 01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:14.640 Yeah, blackout. 01:39:15.199 --> 01:39:18.880 The no physical disc, yeah, blackout, whatever they're calling it. 01:39:19.039 --> 01:39:30.479 Um, but nobody's supposed to uh you know play PS uh 5 and shit, trying to make a statement and saying, hey, we want physical copies moving forward. 01:39:32.720 --> 01:39:34.720 I missed that memo, sorry, I'll be gaming. 01:39:34.960 --> 01:39:36.319 Yeah, I don't mean about that either. 01:39:36.399 --> 01:39:39.520 But like if it if it does some good, then that's good, man. 01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:42.079 Because like nowadays like you don't own anything. 01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:54.479 Like you guys are talking about cars and all that kind of stuff, and like, you know, the the fact that you know Ford is lobbying to like get uh you know security features added so that way local mechanics can't work on the cars, right? 01:39:54.640 --> 01:40:08.640 Yeah, and and they you know the other aspect of it is like okay, like I was I was at a bar with one of my buddies like a couple months ago, and you know, we we were done for the night, and I like started remote started my car, and he's like, Oh yeah, I don't have that anymore. 01:40:08.720 --> 01:40:10.399 Like, I gotta pay a subscription fee for that. 01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:13.279 And I was like, dang, it's that it's like he did seats. 01:40:13.520 --> 01:40:14.640 They took it away from him. 01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:19.439 Yeah, he can't pay a subscription to remote start his car. 01:40:19.520 --> 01:40:21.760 It's a new it's a newer Honda that he leaps. 01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:22.560 Shut up. 01:40:23.359 --> 01:40:27.119 Honda Honda is like, yo, I can't buy I can't buy a new car. 01:40:27.279 --> 01:40:28.560 I can't buy a new car. 01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:37.119 I I I told my wife, I was like, I gotta really look at the economics of like just you know, replacing the engine and starting from zero again on this car. 01:40:37.279 --> 01:40:37.600 Yeah. 01:40:37.840 --> 01:40:50.159 Because like

I can't, I can't like I will punch a hole in the wall if somebody tells me that I need to pay a subscription fee in order to, you know, heat a seat for the control. 01:40:54.560 --> 01:41:05.520 It's gonna cost you$120 a year to have your in uh yeah, your your navy or whatever, yeah, or Apple CarPlay, yep, that's gonna be$4.95 a month. 01:41:05.680 --> 01:41:10.319 That's gonna be, you know, I mean it was already flash a firmware down to your fucking car. 01:41:10.399 --> 01:41:10.720 Yeah. 01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:11.439 And guess what? 01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:12.239 It's shut off. 01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:19.920 That they uh that they would say, okay, after ten years, we're engineering this car to like fail after ten years. 01:41:20.079 --> 01:41:28.159 But like now, like you can't even like they built it, it's in the car, but you're not gonna be able to just pay the one time for access to it. 01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:28.560 Yeah. 01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:34.159 Fuck I think I don't know, I don't know where I heard this. 01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:44.159 Did you guys say it or did I see it online where like BMW like tried you know inserting ads into their infotainment system for a little bit, and then they got a backlash for that? 01:41:44.479 --> 01:41:45.760 Oh yeah, BMW. 01:41:45.920 --> 01:41:49.279 Yeah, BMW put in the Spider-Man movie ads. 01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:54.159 And they were like, oh, no, we just did this, we just did this because. 01:41:54.720 --> 01:42:04.399 Not because the movie it used to be about like building a new feature that's like, you know, i um what's the word I'm searching for? 01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:05.920 Like productivity, right? 01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:16.800 Like the productivity like increases, you get better things, and then you're you're able to charge more for those better things, and like that's the way like the world worked, right? 01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:26.479 You pay for that premium, but now it's like we're gonna make the same car, but we're gonna squeeze you for like everything, yes. 01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:34.319 And uh if you if you uh lease your car, the dealership can remotely disable your vehicle now for mispayments. 01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:35.199 Right. 01:42:35.439 --> 01:42:38.079 Well, I I'm sure even on the lease, even with the bank. 01:42:38.239 --> 01:42:39.680 Yeah, just too. 01:42:40.239 --> 01:42:42.000 Financing, yeah, you can make it a month or two behind. 01:42:42.159 --> 01:42:42.319 Yeah. 01:42:42.720 --> 01:42:43.680 You can't start your shit. 01:42:43.920 --> 01:42:46.159 Is it is it is it illegal to do that? 01:42:47.039 --> 01:42:47.359 No. 01:42:47.680 --> 01:42:47.840 No. 01:42:51.840 --> 01:43:00.880 Everything that contains like technology now, like we we're no longer in a situation where people are like, okay, what's what's going to be better? 01:43:01.039 --> 01:43:03.680 What's the next thing that like people haven't discovered yet? 01:43:03.840 --> 01:43:04.159 Right. 01:43:04.319 --> 01:43:08.720 Now it's like just get as much money out of what you already have as possible. 01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:10.640 And then gave me more and more control. 01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:12.399 Eliminate the workforce. 01:43:12.800 --> 01:43:13.279 Yeah. 01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:17.760 Because uh, you know, we don't we don't want mom and pop shops doing anything. 01:43:17.920 --> 01:43:18.159 Yeah. 01:43:18.399 --> 01:43:23.600 So everything I said, I think a couple times, it's like PlayStation, you got a PlayStation, yeah. 01:43:23.760 --> 01:43:25.439 You don't own that anymore. 01:43:25.680 --> 01:43:30.000 You actually pay that one-time fee to license the hardware. 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:42.479 And at any time, if they find that you're in for violation of any of their rules that nobody read, and could be anything, they can remotely remotely break your hardware. 01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:49.920 But I will say this, and like this is no way a an a statement that advocates this type of behavior, okay? 01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:51.680 So I'm just gonna say that first. 01:43:52.079 --> 01:43:56.960 But there are always going to be ways to crack a system, right? 01:43:57.119 --> 01:44:00.800 And then and install homebrews and things of that nature, right? 01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:04.560 Jailbreak it, homebrew, all that kind of stuff, right? 01:44:04.720 --> 01:44:06.079 It's just a question of when. 01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:26.880 And I think that the more that that these industries set up situations in which you truly do not have uh ownership of things, whether that's video games, cars, movies that you you know download or whatever, the more that you do not own these things, the more that people are going to consider piracy not stealing. 01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:31.279 So it's gonna create a bigger divide. 01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:33.840 Yeah. 01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:38.800 It'll just cause a big divide between people regardless. 01:44:39.439 --> 01:44:47.039 With the with the whole you know, music thing, like you know, back in the day when we had like you know, Naster, Kazah, LimeWire, all that stuff, right? 01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:50.800 To download those, you know, virus full MP3s. 01:44:53.439 --> 01:45:02.239 So like you know, that stuff went away not because like not because like you know, uh, you know, the IRS cracked down, right? 01:45:02.319 --> 01:45:09.119 Like nobody nobody was gonna stop ripping DVDs by that seeing that IRS warning on that in the beginning of the video. 01:45:09.279 --> 01:45:09.520 Right? 01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:17.039 They stopped because it became more convenient, right, to like pay like you know,$9.99 to Netflix and you can watch unlimited stuff. 01:45:17.199 --> 01:45:17.520 Right. 01:45:17.680 --> 01:45:17.840 Right? 01:45:18.000 --> 01:45:18.399 Yeah. 01:45:18.960 --> 01:45:23.199 But now they're doing the subscription, but they're not giving you limited stuff. 01:45:23.520 --> 01:45:24.000 Yeah. 01:45:25.439 --> 01:45:27.199 I find

that fucking bullshit too. 01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:27.840 It's just like what? 01:45:27.920 --> 01:45:29.199 I gotta pay more for this stuff. 01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:30.239 I already pay for it. 01:45:30.319 --> 01:45:30.880 What the fuck? 01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:42.079 Yeah, you know, or the one thing I hate is the like you pay for these subscriptions, and now you have to pay because you don't want to fucking you just want to watch videos, you want to do whatever, and now you have to pay more to get commercial. 01:45:42.399 --> 01:45:44.880 I bought your subscription to get away from that. 01:45:45.119 --> 01:45:48.239 And now you're fucking blackmailing me for more. 01:45:48.880 --> 01:45:54.960 Like so I have Verizon as a as a as a as a telephone carrier, and it pays for my Disney Plus. 01:45:55.279 --> 01:45:59.600 I got a notification that you know the Disney Plus window is like$27.99 now. 01:45:59.760 --> 01:46:06.720 And I'm like, it really is true that when cord cutting was a thing when they were first talking about it like a decade ago, right? 01:46:06.880 --> 01:46:16.720 It was supposed to be like, oh, you have like three channels that you want to watch, like TNT, ESPN, I don't know, uh, you know, Fox CBS and NBC for the football, right? 01:46:16.880 --> 01:46:17.279 Yep. 01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:21.760 And and like you're like, oh good, I only need five channels anyway. 01:46:21.840 --> 01:46:25.600 I could just pay like two dollars per channel and have my channels. 01:46:25.920 --> 01:46:29.119 But then, you know, that wasn't making the dollars and cents for these companies. 01:46:29.199 --> 01:46:35.600 So now they yeah, you have to get a bundle, even though you're not paying the cable company. 01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:41.199 Like you still have to pay the the uh the Disneys and the uh ESPNs. 01:46:41.920 --> 01:46:44.319 Yeah, the Disneys and the ESPNs of the world, right? 01:46:44.399 --> 01:46:44.560 Yeah. 01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:50.960 So now to have to be able to watch all the things you want to watch, you have to pay more than you did before with just the cable package. 01:46:51.279 --> 01:46:52.159 Oh, it's wild. 01:46:52.399 --> 01:46:58.079 That's why I won't change my phone plan because I have it grandfathered in that that's included in my price. 01:46:58.239 --> 01:47:00.000 I don't pay extra for it. 01:47:00.239 --> 01:47:08.720 So my phone plan I keep on the same just so I can keep that free Disney Plus ESPN Hulu thing. 01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:09.039 Yep. 01:47:09.279 --> 01:47:13.840 Because yeah, they took it away and then you had to pay extra for it, and it's like fuck, dude, I'm not changing it. 01:47:14.159 --> 01:47:14.720 I remember that. 01:47:14.960 --> 01:47:21.600 My my phone plan is a real unlimited data plan, like completely unlimited. 01:47:21.680 --> 01:47:25.119 And they've tried to get me to change it year after year after year. 01:47:25.920 --> 01:47:26.800 Nope, I'm gonna stay on this. 01:47:27.199 --> 01:47:27.760 Sticking to it. 01:47:28.079 --> 01:47:31.439 Because they can't, they on my plan, they can't restrict me. 01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:31.760 Right. 01:47:32.079 --> 01:47:33.039 It's fully unlimited. 01:47:33.920 --> 01:47:42.720 You know what's really gonna be the turning point where where if they if they think about changing this, America's gonna be on fire. 01:47:45.119 --> 01:47:48.239 You know, the fiber connections and the cable, the cable connections. 01:47:48.319 --> 01:47:49.600 No, I mean like literally everywhere. 01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:50.960 Yeah, fiber needs. 01:47:52.000 --> 01:48:15.600 If you start changing like data limits and throttling on people's home internet, like not the cell phone stuff, like the home internet to your house, the cable or the fiber or the DSL, if you're still on DSL, they start charging more for that, just to be able to use the internet, that's when that's when everything burns. 01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:18.159 That's when everything burns, in my opinion. 01:48:18.479 --> 01:48:18.800 Yeah. 01:48:19.199 --> 01:48:25.439 It's bad enough that they do that, but at least you have your steady home relaxation that and you don't want to be like halfway. 01:48:30.239 --> 01:48:31.840 Well, let's say pre-physics update. 01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:41.359 You're playing Grand Turismo, you're having a great time, and you know, all of a sudden, like everybody starts lagging because your Wi-Fi got throttled by your ISP. 01:48:41.760 --> 01:48:42.880 Like, come on, man. 01:48:43.119 --> 01:48:44.640 Like, we can't. 01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:51.840 I hope I'm not giving anybody ideas, but like that is uh I don't know, that's where the world is heading. 01:48:52.239 --> 01:48:53.199 Not to head on a bad thing. 01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:54.079 It is, it is. 01:48:54.239 --> 01:49:06.960 Again, anyway they can make one dime you, they will find a way, and um I'm sure it's been talked about and it'll probably be implemented or not. 01:49:07.760 --> 01:49:11.920 So Kaz, just make sure that you're you know you're listening right now. 01:49:13.199 --> 01:49:14.079 Roll it back. 01:49:14.159 --> 01:49:14.640 Yeah, roll it back. 01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:15.760 Hit the roll back button. 01:49:15.840 --> 01:49:19.199 Yeah, stand your ground against zero one seven zero. 01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:20.560 Tell them to piss off. 01:49:20.800 --> 01:49:21.199 Yeah. 01:49:21.520 --> 01:49:24.560 Well, not that just that, just for the average player. 01:49:25.199 --> 01:49:34.960 Like, stand your ground against those guys or whoever, but us people who like to drive and race, and we want good physics. 01:49:35.119 --> 01:49:37.279 We don't want you know, arcade. 01:49:37.760 --> 01:49:37.920 No. 01:49:38.319 --> 01:49:41.359 Anybody can go towards our previous. 01:49:42.319 --> 01:49:44.319 Maybe I'm just misthinking here. 01:49:44.399 --> 01:49:48.239 Didn't they previously have it like you had an arcade in simulation mode? 01:49:49.039 -->

01:49:49.359 Yes. 01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:50.319 Or is that something else? 01:49:51.520 --> 01:49:51.680 You did. 01:49:52.079 --> 01:49:56.960 You used to have uh yes, you used to have uh simulation and arcade mode. 01:49:57.119 --> 01:49:58.000 Yeah, go back to that. 01:49:58.159 --> 01:49:58.479 Yeah. 01:49:58.800 --> 01:49:59.119 Yeah. 01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:01.520 So you want the common version that doesn't matter. 01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:03.600 I think that was in sport. 01:50:09.439 --> 01:50:09.920 But yeah. 01:50:12.800 --> 01:50:16.720 Give the people that kind of thing if you want fucking but yeah, give us fucking something. 01:50:17.199 --> 01:50:26.880 I wonder if they saw how well Forza Horizon 5 did on sales and then it's supposedly it's coming to P or six is coming, I think, in a couple months. 01:50:27.119 --> 01:50:28.399 Yeah, we gotta compete with that. 01:50:28.880 --> 01:50:32.479 So it's like, oh, look how well this sold and this did. 01:50:32.640 --> 01:50:35.520 So people are really fucked that game. 01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:37.039 I don't like that game. 01:50:37.279 --> 01:50:38.239 I didn't get that game. 01:50:38.399 --> 01:50:39.600 Yeah, but your son does, right? 01:50:39.680 --> 01:50:40.000 Oh yeah. 01:50:40.319 --> 01:50:41.199 Drew Bob is fucking. 01:50:42.800 --> 01:50:47.279 Yeah, and that that's who they're catering to is the 12 and 14 year olds who don't know nothing about. 01:50:47.600 --> 01:50:52.640 Not us old guys for the most part that have supported them since I was fucking 12. 01:50:53.039 --> 01:50:57.600 Yeah, and have spent thousands of dollars on our rig and set up and shit like that. 01:50:57.760 --> 01:51:02.960 It's the 10-year-old with the controller who plays the game an hour to a week. 01:51:03.439 --> 01:51:05.119 And let us have our thing. 01:51:05.840 --> 01:51:06.399 Yeah. 01:51:07.279 --> 01:51:12.399 I just wish we could get Kaz on to know his real feelings on it and like what's the actual thing. 01:51:12.640 --> 01:51:18.479 Nobody's ever had a real like conversation with that guy, and if they do, it's all sugarcoating softball. 01:51:19.439 --> 01:51:29.039 It'd be great if we could uh if we got him on, get Terry to translate so they don't fucking try and oh well he said this kind of thing. 01:51:29.520 --> 01:51:30.640 He could tell us the truth. 01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:32.479 Like, oh no, he's saying fuck that. 01:51:32.560 --> 01:51:34.800 He wish he could bring more stuff. 01:51:35.359 --> 01:51:36.079 Imagine that. 01:51:36.640 --> 01:51:41.840 Yeah, but Terry doesn't the whole time saying this fucking company Sony. 01:51:43.039 --> 01:51:44.399 Terry loves update. 01:51:45.279 --> 01:51:46.079 We gotta get him on. 01:51:46.319 --> 01:51:47.760 I was on with him on that. 01:51:47.840 --> 01:51:48.800 I want to hear. 01:51:49.359 --> 01:51:55.520 I was on with um uh miscaffee, and uh somebody's like, hey, what how's the new update? 01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:59.680 And I'm like, uh the

new update's awful, the game is broken. 01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:02.239 Muscophy's like, yep, I agree. 01:52:02.399 --> 01:52:07.039 And then I'm like, yep, you can't do this and that, and probably going to ACC. 01:52:07.119 --> 01:52:09.279 And Scope's like, yep, I totally agree. 01:52:09.359 --> 01:52:13.119 And Terry's like, oh, I guess you're not enjoying it as much as I am. 01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:14.079 Shit. 01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:16.079 It's like that is interesting. 01:52:16.239 --> 01:52:22.239 I mean, also to be fair, you I don't I have been given a verdict either way, because I haven't tried it yet. 01:52:22.319 --> 01:52:22.399 Right. 01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:24.239 Like I'm just going based on what I'm told. 01:52:24.319 --> 01:52:25.600 That is what you're hearing. 01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:28.079 I might sit in the chair and you you never know. 01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:30.960 I might be like, oh yeah, this is the best thread. 01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:34.960 Hope not. 01:52:37.039 --> 01:52:45.359 Some people in um Roland, he he put into chat GPT like what's the consensus in chat beats. 01:52:45.600 --> 01:52:49.439 This is like, yeah, most people like the new fucking physics and update. 01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:53.199 What tell chat GPT to list its sources? 01:52:53.600 --> 01:52:54.000 Right. 01:52:54.640 --> 01:52:55.279 Right. 01:52:56.319 --> 01:53:02.479 But you know, um so I he I think he asked it off Reddit reviews. 01:53:02.800 --> 01:53:06.159 So uh okay, that's probably okay. 01:53:06.239 --> 01:53:08.800 So that answers the question from all the way back before. 01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:14.239 Like if Reddit is saying that, oh yeah, this is great, then maybe they're tuned into that. 01:53:14.399 --> 01:53:14.880 Right. 01:53:15.119 --> 01:53:21.119 Because I I'm I don't I'm not in the uh I guess technically I am, but I don't look at it very often. 01:53:21.279 --> 01:53:28.079 Like when I go to the Grand Turismo uh 7 and Gran Turismo Reddits, like what I see is like, hey, what does this symbol mean? 01:53:28.239 --> 01:53:28.399 Right? 01:53:28.479 --> 01:53:29.760 And it's like the rain meter. 01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:31.920 And like that's the type of stuff that they ask in there. 01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:36.800 So like it's it's definitely like beginner friendly in that in that subreddit. 01:53:37.279 --> 01:53:38.560 Yeah, I've never been on Reddit. 01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:40.720 Neither of I. 01:53:41.840 --> 01:53:43.760 So um, yeah, I don't know about it. 01:53:44.159 --> 01:53:45.760 We got we got homework this week. 01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:50.239 Yeah, get on the get on the Reddit forms and change those outcomes. 01:53:50.640 --> 01:53:57.439 Um forget to ask uh Big Fat Racing what he thinks when he comes on next week. 01:53:57.600 --> 01:53:58.239 Oh yeah, we will. 01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:01.439 He doesn't like it either. 01:54:01.680 --> 01:54:10.159 Uh yeah, well I I know that already, but yeah, we'll we'll um we'll we'll ask him

and and find out. 01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:19.600 But uh yeah, maybe we should get Terry on after uh Yeah, I want to hear why he likes it. 01:54:19.840 --> 01:54:21.600 Yeah, we get both sides. 01:54:22.640 --> 01:54:24.479 Both sides of the story. 01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:26.479 Hard hitting news. 01:54:28.159 --> 01:54:34.560 Alright, so I just did a little question to AI there, majority opinion, and where's your facts coming from? 01:54:34.800 --> 01:54:46.319 Um it says the majority is highly positive, but deeply divided on the the how to control the cars, and this comes from GT Planet Community Threads in Reddit. 01:54:52.720 --> 01:54:54.800 Maybe they're looking at that also. 01:54:55.680 --> 01:55:01.920 Um I need to go to GT Planet and see what Jordan and those guys think. 01:55:03.039 --> 01:55:06.479 Do you think they would tell the truth if they didn't if they liked it or not? 01:55:06.720 --> 01:55:06.800 No. 01:55:07.039 --> 01:55:07.920 They're too deep. 01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:10.640 Yeah, they're in with cows and shit. 01:55:10.720 --> 01:55:16.239 They don't wanna rock the ones toes or up Saddam, in my opinion. 01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:24.880 That's why I think like all those uh Pro Am races they have, um those are all the uh pocketed ones. 01:55:25.119 --> 01:55:25.600 Alright. 01:55:26.800 --> 01:55:28.720 All the guys that show up for that. 01:55:29.359 --> 01:55:29.760 Yeah. 01:55:30.800 --> 01:55:34.880 They have a good relationship and they don't wanna burn any bridges. 01:55:35.199 --> 01:55:48.640 But we we need Super GT and it would be nice if if Jimmy could could do a video on the update and give their honest opinion, not sugar code anything. 01:55:48.880 --> 01:55:59.359 And I think if those two were able to do it, then maybe it would change, but I I I I don't see a fucking change in I don't, unfortunately. 01:56:00.000 --> 01:56:16.880 It's funny because uh like I hope they do, and I but I have to lean towards Todd as well, like just the way that they are in past history and not the way they do things, like yeah, they've done this and that, but realistically uh if they're being pushed by Sony to for all this to happen, it's not going back. 01:56:16.960 --> 01:56:17.279 Yeah. 01:56:19.199 --> 01:56:25.039 If it was PD kind of trying to fix and balance things, thinking like in last times they went back on things they have done. 01:56:25.920 --> 01:56:30.159 It was minor stuff, it wasn't this kind of major, it was like slight variations. 01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:32.800 Uh yeah, it's a little too okay, we'll dial it back a little bit. 01:56:32.880 --> 01:56:35.039 So now everybody's like kind of a happy medium. 01:56:35.199 --> 01:56:36.079 This is an extreme. 01:56:36.319 --> 01:56:44.880 And this I'd have to hope it's not PD, because if it is, it's the most retarded thing they've ever done. 01:56:45.119 --> 01:56:49.840 I won't I I'd rather I'd be happier to find out it was Sony that pushed this. 01:56:50.479 --> 01:56:51.039 You know what I mean? 01:56:51.119 --> 01:56:52.960 Not that I'm happy with it to begin with, but you know what I mean. 01:56:53.600 --> 01:56:55.119 At least I'd have faith with PD. 01:56:55.359 --> 01:56:55.760 Yeah, it is. 01:56:56.399 --> 01:56:58.079 PD is like being strong armed. 01:56:58.239 --> 01:56:58.880 Yeah. 01:56:59.439 --> 01:57:08.319 If it comes down to numbers and stuff like that, and PD is being strong armed, and Kaz is not happy, and maybe, like you said, we translate some stuff in that into the whole time track. 01:57:08.399 --> 01:57:10.960 Kaz is like, this fucking Sony motherfuckers. 01:57:11.199 --> 01:57:12.880 This is not me, motherfuckers. 01:57:13.039 --> 01:57:30.640 I'm trying to like I I have Ferraris and this and that for you guys, and you know, like, and the guys just like, oh yes, we love this game, we love you, you know, like and whatever the fucking like, and he's he's he's badmouthing them saying we've been like in a way they're being stronghold, or if he's being behind closed doors being strong armed. 01:57:30.720 --> 01:57:39.760 You know, Kev's is on social media, he he just he doesn't do interviews, he doesn't divulge any information about this game. 01:57:39.920 --> 01:57:51.600 This is his baby, and yeah, he doesn't speak English even though he knows how to, which is that like which is the thing is like, yeah, it might be maybe that the best, like he but he could speak English perfectly fine. 01:57:51.760 --> 01:58:00.800 It just a little bit broken, like any anybody from a completely foreign country like that, like two opposite languages, kind of, you know. 01:58:01.199 --> 01:58:10.800 Um and the fact that he has a hundred percent translation all the time kind of makes me think that maybe there is a variation on the translation. 01:58:11.119 --> 01:58:19.039 You know, that maybe somebody needs to kind of, you know, listen and kind of or do word. 01:58:19.119 --> 01:58:26.399 Maybe we could get his his audio, get chat GPT to fucking, hey, can you translate what this guy's saying from Japanese to English? 01:58:26.640 --> 01:58:34.079 You know, maybe it can go through and listen to it and be and kind of figure out, you know, oh yeah, he's telling saying Sony's a piece of shit or something. 01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:37.920 Everything is so vague with him. 01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:42.319 It's very vague and well, I think it's very vague on purpose. 01:58:42.560 --> 01:58:43.920 Yeah, it has to be. 01:58:44.319 --> 01:58:46.239 Money, money, money, money. 01:58:46.880 --> 01:58:47.199 Money. 01:58:47.760 --> 01:58:50.319 So it's funny because like Sony said, Oh yeah, go ahead. 01:58:50.399 --> 01:59:01.359 We don't care, go be your own fucking company and stuff like that, and you know, and then realize that, oh, they're making a product, and then basically they just reeled them back in over the last years and stuff like that. 01:59:01.520 --> 01:59:03.119 Because PD is its own entity. 01:59:03.199 -->

01:59:05.760 It was it was like, here's our game, shut the fuck up and put it out. 01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:10.479 Well, do you think it got bad enough like Forza, where they had to shut it down? 01:59:10.640 --> 01:59:17.600 Motor like Forza is like got to the point where they had to shut down all servers and it just it's done. 01:59:17.760 --> 01:59:18.560 They hyped it up. 01:59:18.960 --> 01:59:25.279 Because there there's there's people like who love this game regardless. 01:59:25.439 --> 01:59:28.000 Yeah, no matter good or bad, whatever they do. 01:59:28.079 --> 01:59:32.880 It's like you're the franchise is so old compared to Forest. 01:59:34.479 --> 01:59:45.279 There's people that love Gran Turismo, the company, the game, and no matter what they do, they will stand by it right or wrong. 01:59:45.520 --> 01:59:47.600 It's I I agree, and it's the same. 01:59:47.680 --> 01:59:51.199 It's not it's to a lesser time-length extent, but like F1. 01:59:51.359 --> 01:59:51.680 Right. 01:59:51.920 --> 01:59:57.199 Like Grove, Grove Grove hated the hated the update, but after five or six years, oh, it's not bad now. 01:59:57.359 --> 01:59:59.119 Now he's once you get used to it. 01:59:59.760 --> 02:00:01.279 I can put up, I can put up with it. 02:00:01.359 --> 02:00:02.079 I could put up with it. 02:00:02.319 --> 02:00:03.680 Because he loved he loves the game. 02:00:03.920 --> 02:00:06.319 So at least he's full time too. 02:00:07.680 --> 02:00:09.680 Well, that too, so he's gotta like it. 02:00:09.760 --> 02:00:09.920 Right. 02:00:10.159 --> 02:00:15.279 And then, you know, your digit, he's gotta do it because this is his fucking job now. 02:00:15.520 --> 02:00:24.159 Fucking Sammy Snake, this is his job now, so he's gotta fucking play this game, whether you hate it or play ball. 02:00:25.039 --> 02:00:28.000 I'm curious too, because McNaughty, you have PMR. 02:00:28.960 --> 02:00:29.920 So I'd be curious. 02:00:30.239 --> 02:00:31.680 Yeah, yeah, he's never gone back there. 02:00:32.159 --> 02:00:33.439 Side by side video with that. 02:00:36.079 --> 02:00:36.960 That first day. 02:00:37.119 --> 02:00:39.600 I was so disgusted by the end of the day. 02:00:39.760 --> 02:00:43.520 And like, believe me, like I I wanted to keep going with it. 02:00:43.600 --> 02:00:50.239 Like, that stream that I had for PMR was like one of my most viewed like individual streams that I've ever done. 02:00:50.479 --> 02:00:52.159 And had a lot of hype. 02:00:52.399 --> 02:00:54.560 I wanted to really I I wanted to like it. 02:00:55.039 --> 02:01:05.840 I was like, I I was like, oh man, like this is gonna be it, this is gonna be good, this is gonna be my first, like real second sim racing game that I'm doing, and I was just like, I was just so disgusted. 02:01:06.000 --> 02:01:13.680 Forget the driving, I think it was disgusted with how it looked, how the menu navigation worked, how I couldn't see anything in the bottom right corner. 02:01:13.840 --> 02:01:17.439 So like

I I was just like, oh man, I can't I can't do this. 02:01:17.520 --> 02:01:23.359 And like, you know, for me, it's like once once I've been disgusted by the game so hard. 02:01:24.880 --> 02:01:33.359 So that's since you and then since since you haven't played the new update, then that's also just before you do it, just sit back, take a moment, remember the good times. 02:01:33.520 --> 02:01:33.920 Right. 02:01:34.079 --> 02:01:36.000 Yeah, remember all those great battles. 02:01:36.640 --> 02:01:38.479 Yeah, remember do that. 02:01:38.560 --> 02:01:47.840 Remember all the good times, all those great battles, all the great feelings you had, so that you don't forget how disgusted you are after you play it, and be like, what the fuck just happened? 02:01:47.920 --> 02:01:48.079 Yeah. 02:01:48.880 --> 02:01:59.439 The last thing I want is for you guys to come on on the pod next week and then say, Yeah, uh, NRL season eight is cancelled and you've got to use name anymore. 02:02:02.720 --> 02:02:10.159 Ten minutes into a stream playing the update for the first time, live reactions like, alright guys, sorry, all refunds for the week, we're done. 02:02:13.920 --> 02:02:16.640 We're gonna turn everything over to ACC or LMU. 02:02:16.800 --> 02:02:21.279 Uh yeah, we'll just give us a couple more weeks, we'll we'll figure this out, but yeah, we're done. 02:02:21.600 --> 02:02:25.840 I will say I I am excited for LMU to next year. 02:02:26.079 --> 02:02:43.119 Like, I think I think like I don't know, for me, like I I've wanted to add like a second game to it, and like people are telling me to do ACC, and like I just never had the time, and I know that like the setups and all that kind of stuff is like kind of a task. 02:02:43.199 --> 02:02:47.680 Like one of the greatest things about Grand Church 7 is like you could just fire it up and be in a race and five. 02:02:48.159 --> 02:02:48.560 Exactly. 02:02:48.720 --> 02:02:49.279 Exactly. 02:02:49.840 --> 02:02:50.640 Plug and play. 02:02:51.119 --> 02:02:57.840 And okay, I'm gonna help out with this because yeah, ACC and stuff is uh uh is a difficult compared to the plug and play. 02:02:58.000 --> 02:03:01.199 But with technology comes advantages now. 02:03:01.600 --> 02:03:27.199 Anyone who has AC and has trouble with that stuff, you can now, because of AI, you can ask the AI what car you're gonna drive, at what track, and it will tell you a good stable setup by taking the majority of all the meta settings from all the websites around the internet and putting one together, and then asks you, let me know if I need to make changes. 02:03:27.439 --> 02:03:28.239 Do a few laps. 02:03:29.840 --> 02:03:32.479 Yeah, it's a you AI can be an engineer for you. 02:03:32.560 --> 02:03:38.800 Yeah, I have a slide out of the last core of this, blah, blah, blah, and it will help revamp everything in the settings for you. 02:03:38.880 --> 02:03:41.039 And it all you have to do is input what it tells you. 02:03:41.279 --> 02:03:42.800 Okay, and just give it feedback. 02:03:43.199 --> 02:03:48.960 So have your cell phone beside you, whatever, and it'll make that game so much easier for you. 02:03:49.199 --> 02:03:49.920 Hell yeah. 02:03:50.079 --> 02:03:51.760 Dude, I might have to try that. 02:03:52.000 --> 02:03:52.319 I know. 02:03:52.479 --> 02:03:53.279 That's what I'm thinking. 02:03:53.359 --> 02:03:55.279 I'm gonna try that later today. 02:03:56.159 --> 02:03:59.600 Get on some ACC, do some driving. 02:04:01.520 --> 02:04:03.199 Well, I think on that bomb shell. 02:04:03.520 --> 02:04:04.720 Woo, baby. 02:04:04.960 --> 02:04:06.800 Thanks for joining us, McNaughty. 02:04:06.960 --> 02:04:09.680 Excited for NRL season eight for sure. 02:04:10.079 --> 02:04:14.239 The only thing I'm excited for for uh GT7. 02:04:14.720 --> 02:04:17.840 That's the only thing I'll be playing in GT7. 02:04:18.079 --> 02:04:21.199 I'm gonna say this as well with the the league stuff can actually remain. 02:04:21.279 --> 02:04:32.720 Like, yeah, the game kind of it sucks ass with that, but can be kind of adjusted a little bit with leagues, and the quality of drivers can be still good with the league racing and exciting races. 02:04:33.039 --> 02:04:40.239 As for the rest of the game, GT7, daily races, menu, all that balance of power, absolute dog shit. 02:04:40.399 --> 02:04:43.520 Dog shit up the fucking yeah, yeah, anky. 02:04:46.399 --> 02:04:47.119 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 02:04:47.279 --> 02:04:48.880 Yeah, so you'll be fine, McNaughty. 02:04:49.520 --> 02:04:50.000 Yeah, yes. 02:04:50.159 --> 02:04:51.039 No worries, no worries. 02:04:51.359 --> 02:04:56.239 And where can we find you on social media and Discord and YouTube? 02:04:56.720 --> 02:05:01.680 Yeah, you you can find me on YouTube at youtube.com slash at McNaughty. 02:05:01.920 --> 02:05:06.399 Find me on uh Instagram uh at McNaughty Gaming. 02:05:06.640 --> 02:05:10.479 Uh you can find me uh on McNaughty.gg. 02:05:10.800 --> 02:05:12.800 NRL Season 8 coming up soon. 02:05:13.920 --> 02:05:14.159 Excited. 02:05:14.479 --> 02:05:15.760 Don't be that guy who misses out. 02:05:15.920 --> 02:05:16.239 Alright. 02:05:16.319 --> 02:05:16.560 Yep. 02:05:16.880 --> 02:05:17.199 Excited. 02:05:17.439 --> 02:05:18.399 Sweet Cherry. 02:05:18.720 --> 02:05:19.439 Sweet Cherry. 02:05:20.479 --> 02:05:21.920 Come on, is he? 02:05:22.800 --> 02:05:23.359 He should. 02:05:23.920 --> 02:05:25.920 He wants to be damaging real racing. 02:05:26.720 --> 02:05:27.199 This is it, right? 02:05:27.279 --> 02:05:28.239 Here's Sweet Cherry. 02:05:28.479 --> 02:05:28.960 This is it. 02:05:29.119 --> 02:05:29.439 I know. 02:05:29.520 --> 02:05:30.960 Hopefully we can get Toby too. 02:05:31.039 --> 02:05:32.079 We need to talk to Toby. 02:05:32.159 --> 02:05:33.520 I saw he was on plane. 02:05:34.000 --> 02:05:35.199 So we need to talk to him. 02:05:35.279 --> 02:05:36.720 We got Jimbo in there now. 02:05:36.800 --> 02:05:38.239 Hopefully we'll get Mike. 02:05:38.640 --> 02:05:40.720 I don't know if Roland's gonna be able to. 02:05:41.039 --> 02:05:42.239 I don't think Roland is. 02:05:42.479 --> 02:05:43.680 So Roland is. 02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:44.960 We get Toby. 02:05:45.039 --> 02:05:47.199 If Jermaine could, it would be great. 02:05:47.439 --> 02:05:49.199 But yeah, I'm excited. 02:05:49.359 --> 02:05:50.960 I'm excited for season eight. 02:05:51.199 --> 02:05:52.880 So thanks again, buddy. 02:05:53.199 --> 02:05:54.399 I I really hope I can. 02:05:54.640 --> 02:05:56.159 Yeah, thanks again, McNaughty. 02:05:56.399 --> 02:05:57.119 Love having you on. 02:05:57.760 --> 02:05:58.000 Yep. 02:05:58.159 --> 02:05:59.680 Always a pleasure, always a blast. 02:06:00.159 --> 02:06:00.880 Yep, good time. 02:06:01.279 --> 02:06:02.000 Next week. 02:06:02.880 --> 02:06:04.479 The problem is I fancy. 02:06:05.039 --> 02:06:08.239 I heard his uh I heard his smile falter. 02:06:09.279 --> 02:06:09.600 Yeah. 02:06:10.079 --> 02:06:12.560 I've heard my smile fault. 02:06:18.159 --> 02:06:21.039 Oh, oh, oh god, that's gonna be the first, I think. 02:06:21.359 --> 02:06:23.279 Unfortunately, that's the live reaction. 02:06:23.840 --> 02:06:25.680 I can't watch that not all your video. 02:06:26.319 --> 02:06:29.760 Live reaction might be the first time Ignati might not have a smile. 02:06:30.399 --> 02:06:33.439 Maybe, maybe maybe I can get uh uh what's the point? 02:06:33.680 --> 02:06:34.560 Was it TK Sniper? 02:06:34.720 --> 02:06:37.439 Who says he watches the leads of it not me because I'm too nice? 02:07:00.800 --> 02:07:01.920 All right, guys, have a good one. 02:07:02.800 --> 02:07:03.520 See you next Monday. 02:07:04.239 --> 02:07:05.520 Take that racing, baby. 02:07:05.600 --> 02:07:06.159 Let's go.