התמלול המלא של Cuestacast #25: Anthony Palmiotto | Managing Partner of Odyssey Real Estate Group

00:03:25.870 first equity funding. What's up, Bob? 77 00:03:26.860 --> 00:03:29.120 What's up, guys? Yeah, I've been on every iteration of 78 00:03:29.139 --> 00:03:31.419 whatever show you guys have had. Always a good time, 79 00:03:31.460 --> 00:03:34.300 so I'm really looking forward to just being a little 80 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:36.819 silly and maybe getting myself in trouble here with something 81 00:03:36.860 --> 00:03:37.319 I'm going to say. 82 00:03:37.740 --> 00:03:41.340 I mean, you have the beauty of having your own shit. 83 00:03:41.379 --> 00:03:46.090 That's the nice part about you is you manage with Odyssey. 84 00:03:46.389 --> 00:03:49.189 You're a VP. So it's like you're kind of in 85 00:03:49.229 --> 00:03:52.270 control of what you do, which is nice being a 86 00:03:52.310 --> 00:03:54.770 small business owner and things like that. But I do 87 00:03:54.810 --> 00:03:58.069 have to say something now. For a while ago, you 88 00:03:58.090 --> 00:04:00.520 were supposed to come on with Corey, and then Corey 89 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.099 decided to just tell us to fuck off. So I 90 00:04:03.139 --> 00:04:04.219 got a bone to pick with Corey. 91 00:04:05.770 --> 00:04:07.259 Dude, you got to take it up with him. I 92 00:04:07.409 --> 00:04:09.639 don't know what happened. I don't remember. I mean, because 93 00:04:09.740 --> 00:04:11.240 I'm on the show right now, I'm going to throw 94 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:13.020 him under the bus and say that was something he did. 95 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:13.860 It was. 96 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:14.439 It was. 97 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:16.019 It was like Corey put it off and then all 98 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:17.939 of a sudden it was like, yeah, I don't know. 99 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:19.670 Like we can't do it at now. And I'm just like, 100 00:04:19.689 --> 00:04:22.810 you know what? Say things that you're not allowed to say. 101 00:04:22.930 --> 00:04:25.250 I think he was just scared that like– I think 102 00:04:25.290 --> 00:04:26.689 he just didn't want both of you to be there 103 00:04:26.730 --> 00:04:28.069 and then say some shit. And then people were like, 104 00:04:28.089 --> 00:04:31.029 we're never working with Odyssey. Both people that manage it 105 00:04:31.050 --> 00:04:34.579 are out of their goddamn minds. So– It could have been. 106 00:04:34.620 --> 00:04:37.079 Well, no. So Odyssey is with another friend of mine. 107 00:04:37.180 --> 00:04:40.019 I do have something brewing with Corey that we're working on. 108 00:04:40.060 --> 00:04:41.480 So he might get me in trouble on that end. 109 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:43.600 But I don't think Corey cares. Sometimes, like, you know 110 00:04:43.620 --> 00:04:45.639 when you're scrolling reels and you can see who liked it? 111 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:46.170 Yeah. 112 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:49.490 The most dark, sick, twisted, messed up things. It's always 113 00:04:49.509 --> 00:04:51.389 like Corey's been here already. 114 00:04:51.449 --> 00:04:54.689 So I don't think he minds. You know, whatever. But no, 115 00:04:54.730 --> 00:04:56.009 we still love Corey. Corey, you got to come on 116 00:04:56.029 --> 00:04:58.850 the show. If you do watch this, I'm demanding that 117 00:04:58.870 --> 00:05:02.509 you make an appearance because it's necessary, damn it. But 118 00:05:02.949 --> 00:05:05.509 we'll have him on at some point. And I see 119 00:05:05.550 --> 00:05:10.079 that caveat's hanging out. Nate's hanging out. Nate coming in saying, fellas, 120 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:12.560 can't believe I missed a week to dunk on Rutgers. 121 00:05:12.740 --> 00:05:14.560 They dunk on themselves every week. 122 00:05:14.579 --> 00:05:15.680 Well, it's going to be every week. 123 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:18.040 You're going to have a chance every week to dunk 124 00:05:18.139 --> 00:05:20.160 on Rutgers. I don't think they're winning a game this year. 125 00:05:20.689 --> 00:05:23.750 Yeah, they are. You know, the fact of the matter 126 00:05:23.870 --> 00:05:26.610 is– and it's like it hurts, right? Because we're all 127 00:05:26.649 --> 00:05:30.829 Rutgers people here. We love Kevin Malice. Like we all– Pom, 128 00:05:30.870 --> 00:05:33.790 I know especially us as we were still playing football 129 00:05:33.810 --> 00:05:36.740 in the high school. Yayak had that picture of Kevin Malice. 130 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:40.519 from the Insight Bowl. And he was a big part. 131 00:05:40.819 --> 00:05:44.060 And to see Shiano being such a bad coach right 132 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:46.180 now in the Big Ten, it hurts. Like, do you 133 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:47.769 still follow Rutgers, Pom? 134 00:05:48.490 --> 00:05:51.730 Dude, I remember, not too much to be honest, but 135 00:05:51.769 --> 00:05:54.449 I remember my first semester of college. I went to 136 00:05:54.470 --> 00:05:58.000 Coastal Carolina University for that fall semester. And so I'm 137 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.540 down there in South Carolina where it's USC and Clemson. 138 00:06:00.579 --> 00:06:02.660 They love their college football. And I remember being in 139 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:05.110 somebody's dorm room watching a game And I forget the 140 00:06:05.129 --> 00:06:07.269 kid's name, but he made the field goal. He turns 141 00:06:07.329 --> 00:06:08.269 around and points at the sky. 142 00:06:08.290 --> 00:06:09.230 Jeremy Ito. 143 00:06:09.389 --> 00:06:10.129 Jeremy Ito. 144 00:06:10.389 --> 00:06:10.589 Yep. 145 00:06:10.829 --> 00:06:12.850 Dude, I was on top of the world, man. New 146 00:06:12.870 --> 00:06:15.939 Jersey had relevant college football. I think Rutgers got up to, what, 147 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:17.060 six in the country? 148 00:06:17.579 --> 00:06:21.639 So that was an upset against Louisville, I believe. And 149 00:06:21.660 --> 00:06:23.519 then they lost the following week. If they would have 150 00:06:23.540 --> 00:06:25.740 won the following week, they were going to the national

championship. 151 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:29.519 Yeah, I forget if they lost to South Florida, but 152 00:06:29.540 --> 00:06:32.939 it was somebody they could have beat. But that team 153 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:36.189 was so much fun. I mean, I was so into that. 154 00:06:36.370 --> 00:06:38.670 And just to see where the program is now. I mean, 155 00:06:39.350 --> 00:06:41.230 the whole Big Ten thing I was really excited about. 156 00:06:41.250 --> 00:06:43.189 I had the juices flowing again when that all happened. 157 00:06:43.209 --> 00:06:46.129 And there's just been nothing. I mean, I want to 158 00:06:46.189 --> 00:06:46.990 care and I just can't. 159 00:06:47.629 --> 00:06:51.290 I remember, I think it was... Our senior year football meeting, 160 00:06:51.350 --> 00:06:54.649 I think Kevin brought Brian Leonard there because he was 161 00:06:54.709 --> 00:06:56.649 friends with Brian. And it was one of the things 162 00:06:56.689 --> 00:06:59.269 that we did and he brought Brian there. And obviously, 163 00:06:59.310 --> 00:07:01.350 Kevin went to school with Ray Rice, Jake on Underwood, 164 00:07:01.370 --> 00:07:04.389 Kenny Britt, all the McCourty's. He's good friends with all 165 00:07:04.430 --> 00:07:07.060 them and everything. So it's like it does like we 166 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:09.579 were around for like the heyday of Rutgers. And we 167 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:12.170 all remember that. And just to see where they are 168 00:07:12.230 --> 00:07:15.180 and to see Shiano having the worst defense two years 169 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:18.860 in a row in college football. Like it is– they 170 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:22.600 can't stop anybody. And then last year they had Kaliak 171 00:07:22.660 --> 00:07:24.920 Manis who could throw the ball. And now this year 172 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:27.399 they can't do shit. So– and it sucks. We're wasting 173 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:32.680 two talented guys with Duff and– And what do you 174 00:07:32.699 --> 00:07:34.000 call it? The running back. 175 00:07:34.019 --> 00:07:34.279 Raymond. 176 00:07:34.300 --> 00:07:38.500 They're both really good. And– It's bothersome. But also Florida 177 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:40.139 State's fucking balls too. So I have no one to 178 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.610 root for in college. Like it is a miserable go 179 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:47.149 right here. Caveatized jumping in saying Paul's a cool guest. 180 00:07:47.610 --> 00:07:50.810 One of the guys I follow. Listen, I said to Paul, 181 00:07:50.829 --> 00:07:52.670 I apologize that I couldn't make it. He's like, yeah, 182 00:07:52.689 --> 00:07:55.329 we'll do it again. So obviously you did something right, David. 183 00:07:55.370 --> 00:07:55.870 You don't suck. 184 00:07:56.110 --> 00:07:56.529 A little bit. 185 00:07:57.220 --> 00:08:01.839 Sometimes. Caveatai saying, I only know about Rutgers because of Imus. Yeah, 186 00:08:01.860 --> 00:08:05.480 them nappy-headed hoes, baby. Aw, man, I miss Imus. Imus

187 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.350 was amazing. Nate saying that Rutgers team was so fun 188 00:08:09.370 --> 00:08:11.370 to watch. It was. Ray Rice just ran people over 189 00:08:11.389 --> 00:08:15.379 and Brian Leonard was hurtling everybody. It was great. It 190 00:08:15.420 --> 00:08:16.959 was a good time. You had to be there, bring 191 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:19.439 back the Big East so that Rutgers can actually be 192 00:08:19.500 --> 00:08:20.079 relevant again. 193 00:08:20.100 --> 00:08:25.149 It's compounded even more sad because we have so much 194 00:08:25.170 --> 00:08:27.149 football talent in New Jersey and we don't keep it, 195 00:08:27.670 --> 00:08:28.170 it seems like. 196 00:08:28.670 --> 00:08:31.430 No, we don't. And it's like all they have to 197 00:08:31.470 --> 00:08:35.029 do is– Long Island and New Jersey. If you can 198 00:08:35.090 --> 00:08:37.789 go and keep Long Island and New Jersey, that's where 199 00:08:37.889 --> 00:08:41.919 all the best players go from everywhere else. They recruit 200 00:08:41.940 --> 00:08:44.919 from Long Island, New Jersey, Texas, Florida, and California. Those 201 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:47.509 are the major guys, a few Georgia. But I know 202 00:08:47.529 --> 00:08:49.480 a bunch of other states are like, we have players too. No, 203 00:08:49.500 --> 00:08:52.200 you don't. Fuck off. Like that's where the best guys 204 00:08:52.259 --> 00:08:52.799 come from. 205 00:08:52.820 --> 00:08:56.500 Dude, if we just put Bergen Catholic and Don Bosco 206 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.179 and made that the Rutgers team, I think we'd be 207 00:08:58.200 --> 00:08:58.799 pretty decent. 208 00:08:59.100 --> 00:08:59.539 Yeah, really. 209 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:00.139 Actually. 210 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:02.450 But we just can't keep any of these guys. 211 00:09:02.730 --> 00:09:02.809 No. 212 00:09:02.830 --> 00:09:03.730 We just can't keep any of them. 213 00:09:04.370 --> 00:09:07.129 It has to be pretty embarrassing when Shiano's looking at 214 00:09:07.149 --> 00:09:09.529 around the Big Ten and it's all guys that are 215 00:09:09.570 --> 00:09:12.149 from Jersey and like in his backyard, right? Yeah. Because 216 00:09:12.470 --> 00:09:17.080 theoretically too, like Syracuse's balls, they're not great. There's no 217 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:21.059 real New York threat. There's no true New Jersey threat. 218 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:23.200 The closest threat to them is Penn State. 219 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:24.399 Penn State, yeah. 220 00:09:24.460 --> 00:09:27.960 That's about it. I know it's a conference rival, but 221 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.860 you should have that pipeline. You should have that bubble 222 00:09:31.299 --> 00:09:33.769 where you're only losing really a bunch of South Jersey 223 00:09:33.789 --> 00:09:35.669 and maybe where we are in the short conference because 224 00:09:35.690 --> 00:09:37.950 that is– an hour away, an hour and a half 225 00:09:37.990 --> 00:09:39.600 from Penn

State, but still. 226 00:09:40.700 --> 00:09:44.679 Even with his name brand coming back to Rutgers, you 227 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:48.779 would think that he would have been able to pull 228 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:50.879 enough and have enough success that he would be able 229 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:52.019 to sustain it, but no. 230 00:09:52.090 --> 00:09:53.309 That just wasn't what happened. 231 00:09:54.029 --> 00:09:56.730 The excuse was, oh, we have the penalty. We don't 232 00:09:56.769 --> 00:09:59.049 have full money. We don't have full scholarships because they 233 00:09:59.070 --> 00:10:01.039 had a penalty for the how they got into the 234 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:04.159 conference and they were serving. They didn't have full scholarship. 235 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:06.279 They were not getting the amount of money they were 236 00:10:06.299 --> 00:10:10.070 supposed to from TV deals that ended last year. They 237 00:10:10.090 --> 00:10:14.129 had full recruiting prowess. They have all scholarships. They're getting 238 00:10:14.169 --> 00:10:18.519 the full Big Ten TV deal. There is zero excuse. 239 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:22.100 And the transfer portal, right? Like, there's zero excuse for 240 00:10:22.139 --> 00:10:24.000 them to suck as bad as they are. Especially as 241 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:27.100 we watch Indiana, who has been like an equivalent team 242 00:10:27.139 --> 00:10:29.460 historically to Rutgers in terms of a little bit up 243 00:10:29.500 --> 00:10:31.870 and down, go and win a national championship. 244 00:10:31.929 --> 00:10:32.129 Yeah. 245 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:34.840 Fuck off, Rutgers. That's all I have to say. I'm 246 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:37.600 very mad at Rutgers right now. I will be back 247 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:40.090 if you guys ever do anything good. But they need 248 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:42.149 to go back to having the old, like, just badass 249 00:10:42.169 --> 00:10:43.649 Scarlet Knight on the side of the helmets. 250 00:10:43.769 --> 00:10:44.529 Yeah, that was pretty cool. 251 00:10:44.769 --> 00:10:48.250 Like the Ray Lucas Scarlet Knight. That's what we want. 252 00:10:48.269 --> 00:10:50.789 We need to rebrand. The block R isn't working. But 253 00:10:51.370 --> 00:10:54.840 speaking of something that is working, our New York football 254 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:56.600 Jets are not only looking good. 255 00:10:56.799 --> 00:10:57.120 For now. 256 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:00.179 They're playing good for one week. So, Pom. I know 257 00:11:00.220 --> 00:11:02.940 you watched week one. How are you feeling after the Titans? 258 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:05.899 Well, dude, let's just start with this. I mean, forget 259 00:11:05.950 --> 00:11:08.289 what the final score was. That game was not that close. 260 00:11:08.809 --> 00:11:10.889 The Jets won that game going away. What was it, 261 00:11:10.889 --> 00:11:14.970 23-10 it ended up? It was way more lopsided than that. 262 00:11:16.190 --> 00:11:19.159 It looks like there's some players on this team. And listen, 263 00:11:19.220 --> 00:11:21.320 anytime you're a Jets fan and you're not out of 264 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:24.830 the you're not out of the playoffs week one because somebody, 265 00:11:25.070 --> 00:11:28.580 you had some catastrophic injury or you embarrassed so badly 266 00:11:28.620 --> 00:11:30.460 that you're like, Oh, I know what this season is. 267 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:34.059 Anytime you can avoid that and get a win. I'm 268 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:35.750 a happy camper, man. So let's go. 269 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:39.950 And I think Matt O'Leary put it out there and 270 00:11:39.990 --> 00:11:42.809 a few other Jets bloggers and people in that sphere 271 00:11:42.870 --> 00:11:46.269 pointed out, the whole entire the Titans are bad narrative 272 00:11:47.090 --> 00:11:49.980 is shit. Cam Ward might be bad, right? But that 273 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:53.580 Titans team is not a team devoid of talent everywhere else. 274 00:11:54.100 --> 00:11:56.799 They have a good rookie receiver in Tate. They have 275 00:11:56.820 --> 00:11:59.840 Wanda Robinson, who's a legit receiver, caught 93 balls, I think, 276 00:11:59.879 --> 00:12:03.330 last year. They have Pollard, who's a legitimate 1,000-yard back. 277 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:08.330 That O-line isn't amazing, but it's not the worst. And 278 00:12:08.370 --> 00:12:12.470 that defensive line is fairly good. They have some good players. 279 00:12:12.509 --> 00:12:16.490 It's not like the Titans, theoretically, if they get 500 280 00:12:16.490 --> 00:12:18.789 play out of Cam Ward, can win eight or nine games. 281 00:12:18.850 --> 00:12:22.120 That's not a terrible football team. And the Jets just 282 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.539 manhandled them. Dave, I know we talked a whole bunch about, 283 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:29.450 you know, the Jets in this game. What did you 284 00:12:29.490 --> 00:12:31.169 walk away from it impression-wise? 285 00:12:31.370 --> 00:12:32.929 Well, I mean, I do think the Titans are going 286 00:12:32.950 --> 00:12:33.470 to be awful. 287 00:12:33.929 --> 00:12:36.549 Mainly, you know, I just don't think there's going to 288 00:12:36.570 --> 00:12:40.539 be any– actual like meshing with everything going on with 289 00:12:40.580 --> 00:12:42.940 Salah and Dayball. I think, I don't know how the 290 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:45.899 Titans learned that losing coaches would come and bring a 291 00:12:46.019 --> 00:12:49.879 winning culture apparently, but that doesn't, and you know, that 292 00:12:50.230 --> 00:12:53.669 can take away a bit from certain wins, right? Especially 293 00:12:53.690 --> 00:12:55.690 if the Jets didn't look great and they just kind 294 00:12:55.730 --> 00:12:57.850 of eked it out because of lucky things, maybe a 295 00:12:57.870 --> 00:13:00.490 punt return touchdown or, you know, certain things like that. 296 00:13:01.110 --> 00:13:05.350 but instead we actually had a

dominating win where I 297 00:13:05.389 --> 00:13:07.429 think what really matters is it looked like we had 298 00:13:07.470 --> 00:13:11.549 an identity to our offense. We have actual professionalism with 299 00:13:11.629 --> 00:13:15.029 our whole team, the way they actually go and play 300 00:13:15.190 --> 00:13:17.789 on the field, the way they play together, they're playing hard. 301 00:13:18.090 --> 00:13:21.250 They're playing smash mouth football. They want to run it 302 00:13:21.269 --> 00:13:24.230 down your throat. And then Gino can make pretty much 303 00:13:24.289 --> 00:13:26.320 every throw, especially if you keep them clean, like the 304 00:13:26.379 --> 00:13:27.289 offensive line does. 305 00:13:27.700 --> 00:13:29.370 So yeah, We'll see. 306 00:13:29.730 --> 00:13:31.789 I know we kind of came into week one already 307 00:13:32.110 --> 00:13:33.889 being like, okay, we're going to see what this season 308 00:13:33.909 --> 00:13:34.870 is going to be depending on. 309 00:13:34.850 --> 00:13:36.960 How it goes. But now we're also going into week 310 00:13:37.029 --> 00:13:40.019 two with the Packers saying, all right. 311 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:41.200 We're going to see how this season is going to 312 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:43.740 be depending on how this goes because this is like 313 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.740 the real test. The Titans was very nice to see. 314 00:13:47.340 --> 00:13:49.980 It looked like a genuine football team, which is something 315 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:53.220 we never see lately. But now it's like, okay, the 316 00:13:53.259 --> 00:13:57.000 Packers are down. Micah, Josh Jacobs, it's probably going to rain. 317 00:13:57.279 --> 00:14:02.049 They just– Absolutely choked against the Vikings. Looked fucking terrible 318 00:14:02.090 --> 00:14:06.129 on the fourth. So can we actually, yet again, look 319 00:14:06.169 --> 00:14:09.070 like a football team, have that identity, and pull out 320 00:14:09.110 --> 00:14:12.289 a win at your fucking home debut in whiteout? 321 00:14:12.370 --> 00:14:12.860 Like, come on. 322 00:14:13.649 --> 00:14:17.460 Now, Pom, if the Jets do win. Like David said, 323 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:19.919 no Micah, no Josh Jacobs. How much is that going 324 00:14:19.940 --> 00:14:23.389 to be the narrative, right? Well, the Jets beat the Packers, 325 00:14:23.529 --> 00:14:26.889 but they weren't getting a pass rush because Minka wasn't there. 326 00:14:26.990 --> 00:14:30.309 They weren't, you know, Micah wasn't there and they weren't 327 00:14:30.330 --> 00:14:32.649 getting the running game because Josh Jacobs wasn't there. Like, 328 00:14:33.029 --> 00:14:34.909 are we going to get the narrative, especially if the 329 00:14:34.950 --> 00:14:36.809 Jets squeeze it out? Because I don't think they're going 330 00:14:36.830 --> 00:14:39.019 to dominate the Packers because I think the Packers are 331 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:41.950 actually … They're well-coached. They're a pretty good football team. 332 00:14:42.309 --> 00:14:44.289 At least well-coached for three quarters. 333 00:14:44.330 --> 00:14:46.250 For three quarters. But I think it's going to be 334 00:14:46.269 --> 00:14:49.110 a pretty close, sloppy game, like Dave said. Are we 335 00:14:49.129 --> 00:14:52.110 going to get the narrative, even if the Jets are 2-0, with, oh, well, 336 00:14:52.129 --> 00:14:54.309 there is no pass rush. Of course they won. 337 00:14:54.970 --> 00:14:56.990 Just to put a bow on the Titans, I think 338 00:14:57.029 --> 00:15:00.120 they're big. Robert Sala is terrible. He is not a 339 00:15:00.129 --> 00:15:02.639 head coach in this football league, right? I think that 340 00:15:02.659 --> 00:15:04.740 was their biggest problem because, like Alex said, they do 341 00:15:04.779 --> 00:15:08.799 have some players on there. But whatever. Good win. as 342 00:15:08.860 --> 00:15:11.379 far as the Packers, listen, it's always fun to dunk 343 00:15:11.419 --> 00:15:13.960 on the Jets, right? So no matter what happens, people 344 00:15:13.980 --> 00:15:15.610 are looking for a reason to do it. But I 345 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:19.090 will say, I thought the response, like just being on 346 00:15:19.230 --> 00:15:21.049 X and seeing the vibes of what people were saying, 347 00:15:21.129 --> 00:15:23.350 even who are Giants fans or just Jets haters, like 348 00:15:23.990 --> 00:15:26.090 people seem to respect the win. I mean, the way 349 00:15:26.110 --> 00:15:28.210 they won the game and the way they carried themselves 350 00:15:28.250 --> 00:15:30.259 and how they played football. So I think if they 351 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:34.639 win at home against the Packers, I think it should 352 00:15:34.659 --> 00:15:36.179 be respected. I mean, I know they're down a few 353 00:15:36.220 --> 00:15:40.669 guys or whatever, and Weather or whatever should equalize things 354 00:15:40.690 --> 00:15:43.440 a little bit. Dude, if you're 2-0, you win your 355 00:15:43.460 --> 00:15:47.980 home opener, and you're the Jets, dude, that's about as 356 00:15:48.019 --> 00:15:49.710 good of a start as we've had. When's the last 357 00:15:49.730 --> 00:15:52.360 time we were 2-0? I don't even remember. Was it 358 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:53.360 like 2015 or something? 359 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:54.730 I'll pull that up. 360 00:15:54.740 --> 00:15:55.940 Was it like one. 361 00:15:55.820 --> 00:15:57.480 Of the Ryan Fitzpatrick years? 362 00:15:57.720 --> 00:15:58.279 I don't think so. 363 00:15:58.320 --> 00:15:59.899 I don't think we got off to great starts. I 364 00:15:59.899 --> 00:16:01.120 don't think we got off to a great start. 365 00:16:01.139 --> 00:16:01.720 I'll pull that up. 366 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:03.570 But I do want to bring it up because you said, 367 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.139 you know, around Twitter, you saw people talk. And this 368 00:16:06.210 --> 00:16:08.429 is one of the things that got around NFL Twitter, 369 00:16:08.789 -->

00:16:11.909 where Frank Reich being a fucking madman, having no wide 370 00:16:11.950 --> 00:16:16.250 receivers out in the field. You don't. It's weird to 371 00:16:16.269 --> 00:16:19.169 say that Frank Reich is bringing the offensive creativity that 372 00:16:19.210 --> 00:16:22.830 we've kind of been looking for for a while. But 373 00:16:23.230 --> 00:16:25.649 at least for the first game, he's shown that. 374 00:16:25.980 --> 00:16:28.059 And none of us wanted Frank Reich. Like when he 375 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:32.059 got hired, we were all like, he's old. His offenses 376 00:16:32.100 --> 00:16:34.299 have been out of touch. He hasn't been great wherever, 377 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:37.580 you know, the past few places. At least game one, 378 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:41.139 he was as creative as we've seen. ever seen i 379 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:43.299 think people like we're probably going to be without minka 380 00:16:43.340 --> 00:16:46.620 fitzpatrick right we're going to be without omar cooper who 381 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:48.759 looked good for one catch and he pancaked the shit 382 00:16:48.779 --> 00:16:51.870 out of taylor on play one so it's like it's 383 00:16:51.909 --> 00:16:54.850 not like every team is down guys right like d'angelo 384 00:16:54.889 --> 00:16:57.629 pons is going to be making his first possible playing 385 00:16:57.710 --> 00:17:01.590 right so every team has injuries so i i don't. 386 00:17:01.490 --> 00:17:04.009 You were right about it being a fitzpatrick here is 387 00:17:04.009 --> 00:17:05.289 2015 we started. 388 00:17:04.809 --> 00:17:09.460 It was okay yeah okay Okay. So with that being said, 389 00:17:10.059 --> 00:17:14.700 can we talk about contest stickers though? Because we have 390 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:19.490 not had a special teams guy like that. I remember 391 00:17:20.009 --> 00:17:24.470 that wasn't a return man. in a long, long time, right? 392 00:17:24.849 --> 00:17:28.220 Because Stiggers isn't the returner. He's the everything else. I 393 00:17:28.299 --> 00:17:31.440 bring this guy up a few times. The Patriots win 394 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.599 Super Bowls, yes, because of Tom Brady and that defense, 395 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:38.589 but also because they had Slater. And Slater just made 396 00:17:38.750 --> 00:17:42.369 all the right plays, changed the fields. Pom, we played ball. David, 397 00:17:42.390 --> 00:17:45.890 you played ball. It was so important to have that 398 00:17:45.970 --> 00:17:48.769 field position battle. How much does a guy like Stiggers 399 00:17:48.849 --> 00:17:51.049 and even McCrary Ball being out there and things like 400 00:17:51.089 --> 00:17:54.849 that mean to the Jets and even us as fans? 401 00:17:54.890 --> 00:17:57.170 Because those are the exciting plays that we yell and 402 00:17:57.190 --> 00:17:59.990 scream about, right? When Stiggers blocks a dude into the 403 00:18:00.049 --> 00:18:02.579 punter as he's trying to call a fair catch, we 404 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:06.859 were all amped about that. So do you like what 405 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:08.400 you see out of Stiggers? Do you think he can 406 00:18:08.420 --> 00:18:10.920 maintain this? Do you want to see him rotate onto 407 00:18:10.940 --> 00:18:13.940 the defense or not? stay as the special team specialist. 408 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:15.400 Was that to me? 409 00:18:15.940 --> 00:18:17.599 Yeah, of course it's you. Screw David. 410 00:18:19.059 --> 00:18:20.779 So, well, listen, when you grow up playing football, you 411 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:22.720 know what the coaches always say, right? Special teams is 412 00:18:22.779 --> 00:18:24.079 a third of the game and all that. So it 413 00:18:24.099 --> 00:18:26.960 can't be understated how, how, how important it is. And dude, we, 414 00:18:27.099 --> 00:18:28.880 I haven't been excited about a special teams guy in 415 00:18:28.900 --> 00:18:30.680 the jets since like one of my favorite players of 416 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:32.000 all time. Remember Brad Smith? 417 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:32.559 Yeah. 418 00:18:32.579 --> 00:18:33.299 He would just do it. 419 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:34.960 Guy would just do everything. 420 00:18:35.740 --> 00:18:35.920 Yeah. 421 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:38.400 But, but he, but he was a return guy, but whatever. 422 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:40.509 It was just, it was fun being excited about some 423 00:18:40.529 --> 00:18:43.640 special teams guys. Um, yeah, if, if the guy's going 424 00:18:43.660 --> 00:18:45.779 to keep playing, um, he should see the field more. 425 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:48.599 I don't, I, I'm personally not a big fan of like, oh, 426 00:18:48.619 --> 00:18:50.519 you have a special role on special teams and that's 427 00:18:50.539 --> 00:18:52.700 what you do. I think that should be a gateway to, 428 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:55.460 into getting your ass on the field more. So I 429 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:59.059 love that. Um, and listen, it, it, it goes without saying, 430 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:02.039 but when you actually watch special teams play well and 431 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:04.599 you realize how you start winning the battle of field position, um, 432 00:19:05.710 --> 00:19:07.769 And even if your special teams isn't winning you the 433 00:19:07.789 --> 00:19:10.670 game with big returns and things like that, not losing 434 00:19:10.690 --> 00:19:12.559 the game, not giving up the big play is almost 435 00:19:12.579 --> 00:19:14.440 just as important or even more important in many ways. 436 00:19:14.460 --> 00:19:17.299 Because we've seen so many times where the Jets have 437 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:19.140 shot themselves in the foot on that side too, right? 438 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:21.319 Not only not making a big play on special teams, 439 00:19:21.339 --> 00:19:22.519 but giving up the big play too. 440 00:19:23.460 --> 00:19:24.619 At the worst possible time. 441 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.059 And we've seen it, not

just on the Jets, but 442 00:19:27.099 --> 00:19:28.940 we've seen it across the NFL. We've seen it in 443 00:19:28.980 --> 00:19:33.099 playoffs almost every year. Like a muff punt happens, and 444 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:36.069 then the kicking team gets it. Now they're in great 445 00:19:36.109 --> 00:19:38.970 field position. They're most likely going to score to go up. 446 00:19:39.450 --> 00:19:42.769 And it just changes the game completely if you mess 447 00:19:42.769 --> 00:19:46.150 up at all on special teams. Now if you actually 448 00:19:46.150 --> 00:19:47.960 go on above and beyond and you do a great 449 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.579 play then it can do even more for you so 450 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:53.440 it a lot of people a lot of people don't 451 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:57.119 think about it but when someone like what stickers did 452 00:19:57.160 --> 00:19:59.619 in week one like what mccurry ball did in week 453 00:19:59.789 --> 00:20:03.509 one it shows up it really shows up and it 454 00:20:03.650 --> 00:20:05.750 jumps off the screen when it actually. 455 00:20:05.450 --> 00:20:07.990 Happens so i want to go and let's get some 456 00:20:08.049 --> 00:20:12.519 overreactions from a rest of the league Pom, is Trevor 457 00:20:12.539 --> 00:20:15.759 Lawrence and Caleb Williams going to break every quarterback record 458 00:20:15.779 --> 00:20:18.819 we've ever seen this year after both of them had 459 00:20:18.900 --> 00:20:20.380 a ridiculously good week once? 460 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:24.740 I want to love Trevor Lawrence so much, dude. I remember, dude, 461 00:20:24.779 --> 00:20:26.660 I bet the over in that. Was that the one 462 00:20:26.700 --> 00:20:29.829 national championship game? It was like 21-14 in the first quarter. 463 00:20:29.849 --> 00:20:31.730 I think I hit the over on whatever that national 464 00:20:31.769 --> 00:20:33.829 championship game was in the first quarter. I've loved Trevor 465 00:20:33.849 --> 00:20:34.569 Lawrence ever since. 466 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:37.220 And he just has every guy that wins me money. 467 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:39.420 I like, yeah, I don't, I don't, I'm not a 468 00:20:39.460 --> 00:20:42.130 really a big fan though. Um, I, I think he's okay. 469 00:20:42.170 --> 00:20:44.609 He's a serviceable quarterback, but I don't, I don't think 470 00:20:44.630 --> 00:20:47.130 he's taking some giant step forward this year. Just kind 471 00:20:47.150 --> 00:20:48.890 of a gut feeling by me, but you know, the 472 00:20:48.930 --> 00:20:51.829 performance was impressive. And, uh, you know, it's also like, 473 00:20:51.930 --> 00:20:53.859 if you guys ever burn you on your fantasy team, 474 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:56.579 you just hate that guy. And I've got, he's crushed, 475 00:20:56.740 --> 00:20:58.880 he's crushed me a couple of times, but, um, I 476 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:00.039 like him as a player. I want to see the 477 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:01.839 guy do well, but I just, I don't

see him 478 00:21:01.900 --> 00:21:03.839 as being like, you know, one of these guys taking 479 00:21:03.859 --> 00:21:06.329 them to the promised land. But listen, maybe I'll be 480 00:21:06.369 --> 00:21:07.349 eating my words in six months. 481 00:21:07.369 --> 00:21:09.799 Who knows? Now, what about Caleb Williams and the Bears 482 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:12.400 throwing up 59 in week one, but their defense also 483 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:13.920 giving up 32 to the Panthers? 484 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:16.240 I had a little bit. 485 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:17.509 37, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 486 00:21:17.609 --> 00:21:19.470 It was a score-a-gami, by the way, I'm pretty sure. 487 00:21:19.490 --> 00:21:20.990 I don't know if you saw that. 488 00:21:21.250 --> 00:21:22.130 I wouldn't be surprised. 489 00:21:22.430 --> 00:21:22.650 Yeah. 490 00:21:22.769 --> 00:21:23.769 No, what the hell is a score-a-gami? 491 00:21:23.789 --> 00:21:25.089 Have you never seen score-a-gami? 492 00:21:25.329 --> 00:21:26.230 No, I don't know what that is. 493 00:21:26.230 --> 00:21:28.779 Yeah, it's a– He'll pull it up. 494 00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:31.440 So, so Scorigami is every day. They record every time 495 00:21:31.460 --> 00:21:34.049 there's a unique NFL score. So there's never been a 496 00:21:34.029 --> 00:21:36.470 59 to 37 win before in the NFL. 497 00:21:37.069 --> 00:21:37.329 Hmm. 498 00:21:37.589 --> 00:21:39.990 So it's, it's becoming increasingly rare to get them because 499 00:21:40.009 --> 00:21:41.450 obviously we've had so many NFL games. 500 00:21:41.470 --> 00:21:41.589 So. 501 00:21:42.460 --> 00:21:44.339 Um, but that's only, that's how you get it is 502 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:45.559 when you whoop someone's ass like that. 503 00:21:45.859 --> 00:21:47.470 And a lot of teams are going for two points 504 00:21:47.529 --> 00:21:49.710 and doing different things on fourth down more because of 505 00:21:49.750 --> 00:21:51.569 the stats too. So I think that's why like we're 506 00:21:51.589 --> 00:21:55.660 getting a lot more less traditional scores and everything like that. 507 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:58.279 But do you buy the Caleb Williams hype? Because I 508 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:01.539 saw him, we talked about this a few weeks ago, Dave, that, 509 00:22:02.970 --> 00:22:05.390 Caleb Williams was put as high as three on so 510 00:22:05.430 --> 00:22:08.789 many of the best quarterback rankings coming into this season. 511 00:22:09.509 --> 00:22:11.759 Do you buy that Caleb Williams hype that he is 512 00:22:11.819 --> 00:22:15.519 going to elevate? I mean, he has Burden as the rookie, 513 00:22:15.539 --> 00:22:17.920 who I like over there. I like Burden. He's a 514 00:22:17.940 --> 00:22:20.589 good receiver. They have a few other good guys. Obviously, 515 00:22:20.609 --> 00:22:24.490 the running game, you have Swift and Rucker's Finest, Manunga 516 00:22:24.509 --> 00:22:27.589 is over there. So, Do you buy the hype that 517 00:22:27.609 --> 00:22:30.039 Caleb Williams is going to take that big step, what 518 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:33.119 is it, year three now, as a guy who we're 519 00:22:33.140 --> 00:22:35.839 going to talk about with Lamar, with Josh Allen, with, 520 00:22:36.589 --> 00:22:38.230 I want to say Justin Herbert, but we'll get to 521 00:22:38.269 --> 00:22:40.029 him soon, but with Jordan Burrows. 522 00:22:40.349 --> 00:22:40.670 Jordan? 523 00:22:41.309 --> 00:22:42.029 Did I say the wrong name? 524 00:22:42.049 --> 00:22:42.119 No. 525 00:22:42.789 --> 00:22:45.529 Justin Burrows? What the hell is his name? Justin. Burrow, 526 00:22:45.549 --> 00:22:46.529 and I keep on adding Burrows. 527 00:22:46.730 --> 00:22:47.009 Yes. 528 00:22:48.130 --> 00:22:50.450 You've gotten very old. This is like calling Best Buy 529 00:22:50.490 --> 00:22:51.849 Best Buys and stuff like that. 530 00:22:51.869 --> 00:22:52.869 I mean, that's what Dad does. 531 00:22:53.089 --> 00:22:54.329 Yeah, this is. 532 00:22:54.329 --> 00:22:55.089 Getting really bad. 533 00:22:55.690 --> 00:22:57.049 Every video game is a Nintendo. 534 00:22:57.309 --> 00:22:58.569 Yeah. 535 00:22:58.650 --> 00:22:59.450 PlayStation for me. 536 00:22:59.470 --> 00:23:02.099 This is going to start becoming a Mitch McConnell type situation, 537 00:23:02.150 --> 00:23:04.539 isn't it? I mentioned him twice now. 538 00:23:05.019 --> 00:23:06.900 I don't know. But yeah, so are we going to 539 00:23:07.299 --> 00:23:12.579 put Caleb Williams up with that Echelon quarterback? That's me again. 540 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:13.720 It's all to you. 541 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:16.759 It's always to you. 542 00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:20.339 I actually didn't have a strong opinion on him. I 543 00:23:20.380 --> 00:23:23.660 had never just watched him play much or whatever. Dude, 544 00:23:24.349 --> 00:23:27.849 I think I'm in on him. He's athletic. He makes 545 00:23:27.890 --> 00:23:31.390 the plays. I don't know if week one was an aberration, 546 00:23:31.450 --> 00:23:36.250 but I don't listen. He's not Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, 547 00:23:36.309 --> 00:23:38.009 but I would put him in that tier two. I 548 00:23:38.190 --> 00:23:40.680 think at his best, he could be playing on the 549 00:23:40.700 --> 00:23:44.819 level of a Justin Herbert when he, when he's going, um, I, 550 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:46.380 like I said, I'm not going to lie. I really 551 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:48.690 didn't have strong opinions on him before the season. I 552 00:23:48.730 --> 00:23:50.910 really had never watched him play much, but I liked 553 00:23:50.930 --> 00:23:52.450 what I saw out of him. And I think he's 554 00:23:52.470 --> 00:23:54.329 like solidly in that, in that tier two when he's 555 00:23:54.390 --> 00:23:56.490 playing well, but listen, it's a long season. Let's see 556 00:23:56.509 --> 00:23:56.970 what he does. 557 00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:00.279 Now I want to bring up nature saying Caleb brought 558 00:24:00.319 -->

00:24:01.880 his best purse on Sunday. 559 00:24:01.940 --> 00:24:02.279 Yes. 560 00:24:02.299 --> 00:24:04.700 He is representing the they, them community in football. 561 00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:07.569 Dude, I don't know. I kind of had to like– 562 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:09.519 I think when I saw the fingernails painted a couple 563 00:24:09.579 --> 00:24:11.480 years ago, I didn't– not that I had some opinion 564 00:24:11.539 --> 00:24:13.319 on it, but I just didn't really ever think about them. 565 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:15.480 I don't care. I just like making fun of people. 566 00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:17.019 Dude. 567 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:19.079 When you do put it on national television, you deserve 568 00:24:19.099 --> 00:24:20.559 to get made fun of if it's made fun of. 569 00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:23.799 If my quarterback wants to paint his nails and wear 570 00:24:23.819 --> 00:24:25.859 a purse, as long as he wins football games, I 571 00:24:25.900 --> 00:24:27.539 think that's what most fans would care about. 572 00:24:27.940 --> 00:24:29.359 I would have waited to make fun of you until 573 00:24:29.500 --> 00:24:31.559 after the season if you did that. I would have 574 00:24:31.579 --> 00:24:33.619 made sure your mindset was good during the season. After 575 00:24:33.660 --> 00:24:35.650 the season, if you kept wearing it and it wasn't 576 00:24:35.670 --> 00:24:37.750 like a superstition thing, then I would have made fun 577 00:24:37.769 --> 00:24:37.950 of you. 578 00:24:38.289 --> 00:24:39.390 Fair deal. 579 00:24:39.490 --> 00:24:42.349 I think what we're seeing with Caleb right now is 580 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:44.900 what seems to happen a lot of times in the league, 581 00:24:44.940 --> 00:24:49.099 especially with top-tier quarterbacks coming out of draft. is they're 582 00:24:49.220 --> 00:24:51.980 usually not paired with the best coaching parent because they're 583 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:53.420 going to a bad organization. 584 00:24:53.849 --> 00:24:54.029 Yeah. 585 00:24:54.069 --> 00:24:58.190 But Caleb with Ben Johnson seems to work really well. 586 00:24:58.490 --> 00:25:01.630 Like Ben buys into exactly what Caleb is going for, 587 00:25:01.730 --> 00:25:04.369 what how a style play is. And Caleb is buying 588 00:25:04.410 --> 00:25:06.630 into what Ben is trying to go to have him 589 00:25:06.670 --> 00:25:08.730 get to. So it looks like those two are going 590 00:25:08.750 --> 00:25:11.869 to pair up really, really well. And everything that Caleb 591 00:25:11.910 --> 00:25:15.210 does well is going to shine. So I, And at 592 00:25:15.259 --> 00:25:18.759 this point, it's hard to– unless he crashed and burned somehow. 593 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:20.640 But we saw at the end of last year, now 594 00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:24.259 starting this year, he looked extremely comfortable throwing the ball 595 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:27.299 into tight windows too. So at this point, it looks 596 00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:29.599 like it's

just going to be up for Caleb Williams. 597 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:32.759 Now, David, how much of that is having Swift and 598 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.559 Mnangai back there? And is how much of it is 599 00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:39.210 those two? Because we've seen Swift can legitimately run the football. 600 00:25:39.230 --> 00:25:41.750 He's a number one running back. Mnangai is a great 601 00:25:41.789 --> 00:25:43.849 spell back. And they had monster games. I think they 602 00:25:43.869 --> 00:25:45.910 had almost 300 yards on the ground this week. 603 00:25:46.210 --> 00:25:46.369 Yeah. 604 00:25:46.430 --> 00:25:49.700 Well, and you could say, like, of course, that can help. Right. 605 00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:53.109 But that doesn't help. make certain throws that he made 606 00:25:53.130 --> 00:25:54.549 the Colt come in. That doesn't help. 607 00:25:55.309 --> 00:25:57.450 You know, these certain throws that he's making that he 608 00:25:57.569 --> 00:26:00.289 trusts his arm, he trusts his receiver, he knows what 609 00:26:00.329 --> 00:26:02.069 the game plan, he knows what the route is, where 610 00:26:02.109 --> 00:26:05.210 he's supposed to be. Like, you could say, okay, the 611 00:26:05.250 --> 00:26:07.049 running game might have helped him a bit. Sure, it 612 00:26:07.430 --> 00:26:10.869 helps the whole offense. But to make those throws, to 613 00:26:10.930 --> 00:26:13.609 have that confidence, to feel like you're going to go 614 00:26:13.690 --> 00:26:15.269 out there and be the best guy on the field 615 00:26:15.309 --> 00:26:18.490 like that, that's big time. That's going to help in 616 00:26:18.569 --> 00:26:19.539 every single game you're in. 617 00:26:20.299 --> 00:26:23.519 So we're going to get down to something super important 618 00:26:23.619 --> 00:26:28.589 right now because you mentioned Justin Herbert, Pom. Justin Herbert 619 00:26:28.670 --> 00:26:30.730 might have one of the worst problems that you have 620 00:26:30.769 --> 00:26:36.410 in sports, having a smoking hot celebrity girlfriend because Madison 621 00:26:36.450 --> 00:26:39.599 Beer is a legitimate 10 out of 10, and there 622 00:26:39.630 --> 00:26:42.700 she is on the Jumbotron jumping up and down and 623 00:26:42.779 --> 00:26:45.759 looking as hot as can be, and we saw this 624 00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:47.240 with Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson. 625 00:26:47.259 --> 00:26:47.420 Wow. 626 00:26:48.490 --> 00:26:51.950 Dave, we said this the other day. When you're Justin Herbert, 627 00:26:52.349 --> 00:26:54.869 you're now a bazillionaire because you've gotten that second contract. 628 00:26:55.490 --> 00:26:58.809 You have a 10 out of 10 at home every 629 00:26:58.849 --> 00:27:01.230 single day. Why the hell do you give a shit 630 00:27:01.269 --> 00:27:05.039 about how you play on Sunday? You have won in life. 631 00:27:05.410 --> 00:27:07.660 Do you really need to care? I feel like there 632 00:27:07.859 --> 00:27:11.789 is that some sort of a curse that We didn't 633 00:27:11.809 --> 00:27:14.569 play well? I'm going home to Madison Beer. I don't 634 00:27:14.609 --> 00:27:16.859 give a shit if I played well. I'll be back 635 00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:19.759 at practice and I'll collect my paycheck. Is there something 636 00:27:19.779 --> 00:27:21.599 to that, Paul? I'm just having not only just a 637 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:25.180 smoking hot wife, but a well-known smoking hot wife or girlfriend. 638 00:27:25.220 --> 00:27:28.039 Dude, just to draw a comparison, look at the regression 639 00:27:28.059 --> 00:27:33.789 of Paul Skeens in year three, who's dating the girlfriend. Yeah, 640 00:27:33.829 --> 00:27:36.009 the gymnast girl. So I don't know. Is there something 641 00:27:36.029 --> 00:27:39.210 to that? I mean, actually, what do you think matters more, 642 00:27:39.289 --> 00:27:41.849 getting your bag or having like the smoking hot chick? 643 00:27:41.890 --> 00:27:44.140 I mean, I used to think it was the money, 644 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:46.380 but I don't know. These two examples, I'm not so 645 00:27:46.420 --> 00:27:46.960 sure anymore. 646 00:27:47.619 --> 00:27:51.440 I mean, does it take away– because obviously like the 647 00:27:51.509 --> 00:27:54.609 goal of a competitor and when you're working to get 648 00:27:54.630 --> 00:27:57.160 to that pro level, right? Is I want to win 649 00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:58.960 a championship. I want to go there. I want to 650 00:27:58.980 --> 00:28:01.220 be the best there ever is. You know, if I'm 651 00:28:01.259 --> 00:28:04.279 Justin Herber, I probably came in piss and vinegar looking like, okay, Brady, 652 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:06.690 I'm going to replace you. I'm going to bring X, Y, 653 00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:08.940 and Z there. And then all of a sudden I'm 654 00:28:08.980 --> 00:28:14.960 in LA, I'm in California. I have a really hot girlfriend, wife, fiance, whatever. 655 00:28:14.980 --> 00:28:17.819 I don't know. I think Madison Beers is fiance. And yeah, 656 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.359 I'm a bazillionaire now. She's a bazillionaire. We have to 657 00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:25.180 worry about zero in our lives. Do you still like, 658 00:28:25.220 --> 00:28:27.279 it's like Conor McGregor when each, every time he tries 659 00:28:27.299 --> 00:28:30.859 to make a comeback, like this Conor McGregor, everybody needs 660 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.130 to make a comeback, right? Like he's, he's always, so 661 00:28:33.150 --> 00:28:35.490 it's like, what do you, what is, what is Justin 662 00:28:35.529 --> 00:28:37.670 Herbert truly motivated to go fight for right now? That's 663 00:28:38.210 --> 00:28:40.250 not everyone's Tom Brady who can look at Giselle and 664 00:28:40.289 --> 00:28:43.130 just be like secondary. Like there is very few people 665 00:28:43.170 --> 00:28:46.000 that can do that apparently. So I don't know. It's a, 666 00:28:46.230 --> 00:28:50.769 it's a quandary. David, what's more important to you? or 667

00:28:50.809 --> 00:28:52.549 get in the bag and winning and winning games. 668 00:28:52.630 --> 00:28:54.789 Well, you see, I haven't exactly done either of those. 669 00:28:54.869 --> 00:28:58.710 So I can't, I can't tell you, but I will 670 00:28:58.730 --> 00:29:01.220 say this. And I, I think Justin's also at a 671 00:29:01.259 --> 00:29:04.059 point cause you know, and I will, and I do 672 00:29:04.140 --> 00:29:07.579 agree with some of the Twitter comments, about Justin Herbert. 673 00:29:07.339 --> 00:29:09.140 Where he gets defended a lot more than a lot 674 00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:10.500 of other quarterbacks. 675 00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:11.400 Yes. 676 00:29:11.420 --> 00:29:13.369 Saying that he has no help and everything like that. 677 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:15.609 Compare him and Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts is a Super 678 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.730 Bowl quarterback that consistently gets put below Justin Herbert. Yeah. 679 00:29:18.829 --> 00:29:19.829 I mean, you saw some of the throws. 680 00:29:19.849 --> 00:29:21.130 He played much better in his career. 681 00:29:21.509 --> 00:29:22.950 You saw some of the throws Hurts was making in 682 00:29:22.970 --> 00:29:24.410 week one. Yeah, Hurts is a monster. He was throwing 683 00:29:24.430 --> 00:29:25.730 missiles all around the fucking field. 684 00:29:26.069 --> 00:29:30.460 Mm-hmm. And Justin's probably a little depressed, though, because he 685 00:29:30.529 --> 00:29:33.049 has been like the most sacked guy in the league 686 00:29:33.109 --> 00:29:34.109 for a while now. 687 00:29:34.170 --> 00:29:34.869 I saw a stat. 688 00:29:35.210 --> 00:29:37.549 I think he has actually more sacks and less games 689 00:29:37.569 --> 00:29:39.069 than Andrew Luck did when he retired. 690 00:29:39.089 --> 00:29:39.769 Yeah. 691 00:29:40.529 --> 00:29:44.130 Yeah, so he's getting beat up. Like he's actually getting 692 00:29:44.190 --> 00:29:47.210 beat up. And I don't know if that pairing is 693 00:29:47.250 --> 00:29:49.910 working with hardball just coming off that week one game. 694 00:29:49.970 --> 00:29:52.859 And look, the Cardinals say what you will, even when 695 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.740 they're bad, they're kind of feisty. They're an annoying fucking team. 696 00:29:55.779 --> 00:29:59.400 I've seen them do it to better teams all the time. And, 697 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.240 you know, like you guys said, you're going home to 698 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.700 someone that looks like that. You're a little unhappy with 699 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:07.160 your– David. 700 00:30:07.220 --> 00:30:10.380 Pull her up jumping up and down and celebrating a touchdown. 701 00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:12.279 And then we can see– I'm not even kidding. Pull 702 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:15.849 that up because– For research purposes. For research purposes to 703 00:30:15.910 --> 00:30:19.250 find out if all three of us, you know, red-blooded 704 00:30:19.289 --> 00:30:22.809 American men would sit there

and think about, man, I 705 00:30:22.849 --> 00:30:25.609 need to go throw another touchdown to a sweaty guy. 706 00:30:25.630 --> 00:30:25.710 Yeah. 707 00:30:26.329 --> 00:30:30.369 And take that chance or– so I don't know. So, Pom, 708 00:30:30.650 --> 00:30:37.700 as he's doing some amazing research, if for whatever reason Harbaugh, 709 00:30:37.740 --> 00:30:40.599 Herbert and them go, let's find you a better situation. 710 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.559 This isn't working. And the Jets and Mouge, they give 711 00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:45.680 Mouge a call and say, hey, are you interested? You 712 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:49.019 have three first-round picks. Would you take a change of 713 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.039 scenery in getting Justin Herbert over to the Jets? 714 00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:53.690 Dude, I'll say this, and I've been saying this for 715 00:30:53.710 --> 00:30:54.329 a long time. 716 00:30:54.990 --> 00:31:01.230 Look at that. That is a quality celebration. Go ahead, Tom. 717 00:31:01.289 --> 00:31:03.670 Good for that guy. 718 00:31:03.730 --> 00:31:07.079 Good for him. Yeah, I've said this for a while, 719 00:31:07.150 --> 00:31:08.980 and I think it's actually a detriment to the game, 720 00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:11.440 but it really feels like if you don't have a 721 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.339 top 12 quarterback, you don't have a chance to win 722 00:31:14.380 --> 00:31:17.039 a Super Bowl. You really just don't. So to me... 723 00:31:17.609 --> 00:31:20.160 at whatever cost it is to get a quarterback who's 724 00:31:20.299 --> 00:31:22.640 in the top third, let's say of quarterbacks in the league, 725 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:25.539 I would overpay for something like that. 726 00:31:25.539 --> 00:31:25.960 1000%. 727 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:29.420 Now that's coming for me as a bitter jets fan who, 728 00:31:30.089 --> 00:31:32.710 you know, hasn't had a stud quarterback since, you know, 729 00:31:33.170 --> 00:31:35.069 Brett Favre or whatever, or if you want to count 730 00:31:35.089 --> 00:31:39.819 Aaron Rogers, whatever, but you know, we've been quarterback star. 731 00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:41.900 So just to have somebody who, you know, is, is, uh, 732 00:31:42.819 --> 00:31:45.299 very legitimate at the position, I would do it in 733 00:31:45.420 --> 00:31:47.079 a second. Absolutely. 734 00:31:47.539 --> 00:31:50.140 And still in his prime because how old is Herbert? 735 00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:53.519 Was he 27? 736 00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.039 He's relatively young if I remember correctly. 737 00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:57.009 I'm looking up 20 years old. 738 00:31:57.900 --> 00:31:59.720 To your point, he's gotten beat up a lot, but 739 00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:01.299 a lot of these guys are now playing until their 740 00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:01.900 late 30s. 741 00:32:02.700 --> 00:32:04.420 You look at the— but you know, though, if you're Herbert, 742 00:32:04.740 --> 00:32:06.880 and I don't think we played them this year,

but 743 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.670 if for whatever reason he watches week one and he 744 00:32:09.710 --> 00:32:12.609 looks at that offensive line, like, that's a whole bunch 745 00:32:12.630 --> 00:32:16.849 of filet mignons for him looking, going, wait, Gino had 2.89 746 00:32:16.849 --> 00:32:19.150 seconds to throw the ball and only got rushed— you 747 00:32:19.170 --> 00:32:21.859 know six times and didn't get hit once like i 748 00:32:21.930 --> 00:32:22.720 don't think herbert's. 749 00:32:22.579 --> 00:32:24.740 Ever had a game like that but i'm pretty sure 750 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:27.039 it was that one time he actually stepped out of 751 00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:28.799 pocket and tried to do a little and then he 752 00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:31.279 was incomplete pass but i'm pretty it was like mainly 753 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.380 gino's fault it wasn't a lot like. 754 00:32:34.299 --> 00:32:36.789 Spiked a little screen that he tried to do or 755 00:32:36.849 --> 00:32:38.150 that like going out of bounds i. 756 00:32:38.289 --> 00:32:40.509 No, he stepped up and then he moved over to 757 00:32:40.549 --> 00:32:43.130 the right to make a throw and he got tackled 758 00:32:43.190 --> 00:32:44.690 on his legs and stuff while he was throwing the 759 00:32:44.710 --> 00:32:48.009 ball away. But it wasn't– like the line kept him clean. 760 00:32:48.329 --> 00:32:49.609 His jersey was clean. 761 00:32:50.029 --> 00:32:52.549 Which kind of sucks, right? Because we all have like– 762 00:32:52.710 --> 00:32:54.789 you go to play and especially like you have those 763 00:32:54.849 --> 00:32:56.630 first hit jitters of every game. You just want to 764 00:32:56.650 --> 00:32:59.450 get that first hit in. Okay, and then we could 765 00:32:59.470 --> 00:33:02.799 play ball. And, Pom, you were a safety and receiver 766 00:33:02.859 --> 00:33:04.460 most of your career. But our senior year, you were 767 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.140 our starting QB. Yeah. And, you know, and you are 768 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.960 starting safety with me, but it's like, generally you wanted 769 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:11.920 that first hit, whether it was, you know, running the 770 00:33:11.940 --> 00:33:14.619 ball or whatever. And could you imagine Gino? It's like, 771 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:18.119 where's my first hit? I'm really like, I didn't like you. 772 00:33:18.539 --> 00:33:20.380 I think everyone just wants to get at least something. 773 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.769 They want to get popped like somewhat. And it's like, 774 00:33:22.789 --> 00:33:24.690 I don't know. I kind of feel bad for Gino. 775 00:33:24.930 --> 00:33:26.349 He has to get hit next game at least once. 776 00:33:27.859 --> 00:33:29.089 I say that and now we're going to be out 777 00:33:29.109 --> 00:33:29.589 for this season. 778 00:33:29.750 --> 00:33:31.329 Yeah, I was going to say, we win one game 779 00:33:31.369 --> 00:33:32.690 and all of a sudden now he's mad our quarterback 780 00:33:32.710 --> 00:33:33.490 didn't get sacked more. 781 00:33:33.710 --> 00:33:34.490 All right, come on, man. 782 00:33:34.549 --> 00:33:38.880 Yeah, really. I'm perfectly fine with him standing there as 783 00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:40.220 long as he fucking wants to. 784 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:41.180 Yeah, yeah. 785 00:33:41.500 --> 00:33:41.640 So. 786 00:33:42.390 --> 00:33:43.529 I'd rather him have the jitters. 787 00:33:44.170 --> 00:33:46.990 I agree. So Nate G is saying, what Ben Johnson 788 00:33:47.009 --> 00:33:49.640 has done for the Bears is incredible. Al Harris too. 789 00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:53.200 Everywhere Harris goes, the defense leads the league in turnovers. 790 00:33:53.420 --> 00:33:55.240 Hopefully we can get an interception. We still have not 791 00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.509 gotten one. This is now, what is it, 18 games 792 00:33:58.549 --> 00:34:02.009 with no interception for the Jets. But who's counting? Nate 793 00:34:02.029 --> 00:34:04.789 G also saying, throwing tutties won't take half your money 794 00:34:05.190 --> 00:34:09.289 when CTE sets in and she leaves. But, Nate, did 795 00:34:09.329 --> 00:34:11.869 you just see Madison Beer dancing to that touchdown, okay? 796 00:34:11.889 --> 00:34:13.869 Yeah, Herbert might be here for a good time, not 797 00:34:13.889 --> 00:34:15.789 a long time. You don't know how it's going to 798 00:34:15.809 --> 00:34:16.119 work out. 799 00:34:16.349 --> 00:34:18.659 I feel like if you're Madison Beer, you're looking at 800 00:34:18.699 --> 00:34:20.679 Justin Herbert and going, bitch, you're signing the prenup. I'm 801 00:34:20.699 --> 00:34:24.199 worth significantly more than you because she is. That's like 802 00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:27.480 Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey is a pauper 803 00:34:27.780 --> 00:34:28.940 compared to Taylor Swift. 804 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.659 I'm happy you brought up Travis Kelsey because I don't 805 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:35.210 know if you saw this. Hit your timeline. But he's 806 00:34:35.230 --> 00:34:37.769 been named as a victim in a massive Ponzi scheme 807 00:34:37.809 --> 00:34:42.730 that pulled more than $ 35 million from investors. Siddharth Jawahar, 808 00:34:42.750 --> 00:34:47.250 a 38-year-old illegal immigrant, pleaded guilty to three counts of 809 00:34:47.289 --> 00:34:49.630 wire fraud and now been sentenced to 11 years in 810 00:34:49.690 --> 00:34:52.389 federal prison in order to pay more than $ 31 million 811 00:34:52.409 --> 00:34:56.239 in restitution. And so Travis Kelsey apparently bought into whatever 812 00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:56.980 the fuck this was. 813 00:34:58.090 --> 00:35:00.429 Travis Kelsey does seem like a retard. So let's be honest. 814 00:35:00.469 --> 00:35:02.210 And that's been the response from everyone. 815 00:35:02.230 --> 00:35:04.949 It's like, if you asked me for one player in 816 00:35:04.969 --> 00:35:08.179 the NFL that actually got defrauded like this into a 817

00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.099 Ponzi scheme, they would answer Travis Kelsey. 818 00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:11.900 It would have been Gronk if Gronk was still playing. 819 00:35:12.099 --> 00:35:12.760 Yeah. 820 00:35:12.780 --> 00:35:15.619 Travis Kelsey now takes that. Because, listen, they are both 821 00:35:16.489 --> 00:35:19.190 the linebacker from Blue Mountain State. That is who both 822 00:35:19.230 --> 00:35:21.670 of them are. They are just football players and they're retarded. 823 00:35:21.809 --> 00:35:23.530 And that's okay. And you're allowed to be. 824 00:35:24.030 --> 00:35:24.210 But. 825 00:35:24.590 --> 00:35:25.889 And speaking of Travis Kelsey, he had a pretty nice 826 00:35:25.909 --> 00:35:28.400 game this week. Everyone's writing him off. I think he 827 00:35:28.420 --> 00:35:30.260 had a few nice catches this weekend. He scored a touchdown. 828 00:35:30.570 --> 00:35:31.170 He did. He certainly did. 829 00:35:31.190 --> 00:35:32.239 Yeah, go ahead, pal. 830 00:35:33.090 --> 00:35:34.869 I was going to say, is it a coincidence that 831 00:35:34.989 --> 00:35:38.000 as Alex so eloquently put, he's a retarded football player. 832 00:35:38.019 --> 00:35:40.340 He was also the face of pushing the COVID vaccine. 833 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:43.599 Someone put that on Twitter as. 834 00:35:45.059 --> 00:35:45.400 Well. 835 00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:45.920 Coincidence. 836 00:35:46.380 --> 00:35:48.570 I mean, it's like funny too. It's like, cause like 837 00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:50.969 when you look at Travis and even his brother, Jason 838 00:35:50.989 --> 00:35:54.570 Kelsey was also a retard. Uh, they present as like 839 00:35:54.610 --> 00:35:56.929 that homely, nice guy. And like, when you listen to 840 00:35:56.949 --> 00:35:59.130 our podcast, for the most part, they're pretty entertaining. Um, 841 00:36:00.130 --> 00:36:03.199 But then, yeah, when it comes to pushing vaccines and stuff, 842 00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.340 they were both very much on the lockdowns, very much 843 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:11.920 on the vaccines, very much on the masking. And it's like, eh, 844 00:36:12.980 --> 00:36:15.480 you're not tough guys anymore. If that's where you live, yes, 845 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.900 you could shove me inside of a soda can, but 846 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:21.480 you're still a bitch. That's just where it comes from. 847 00:36:21.900 --> 00:36:24.949 Caveat to I saying, no, they didn't. Chiefs got lucky. Yeah, 848 00:36:24.969 --> 00:36:28.530 the Broncos looked great, caveat. So palm for reference, Rollin 849 00:36:28.590 --> 00:36:32.710 is a Broncos fan. caveat saying broncos made a lot 850 00:36:32.750 --> 00:36:34.230 of dumb mistakes i mean. 851 00:36:34.409 --> 00:36:36.630 To be fair to the broncos i don't think bo 852 00:36:36.989 --> 00:36:40.440 was ready off of his injury and also i i 853 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:42.820 don't think they're ready for fucking kenneth walker to be 854 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:46.139

quite honest with you i people forgot about kenneth walker 855 00:36:46.179 --> 00:36:49.199 and he had to remind everyone did. 856 00:36:48.420 --> 00:36:51.590 You see um bo nix's answer when a reporter asked 857 00:36:51.619 --> 00:36:53.630 him about the intersection and he was like i dropped 858 00:36:53.650 --> 00:36:56.849 back and i threw it to the other team I 859 00:36:56.889 --> 00:36:59.329 love that these are some of the answers these reporters 860 00:36:59.369 --> 00:37:01.639 are getting. It's like, what do you want? You wanted 861 00:37:01.659 --> 00:37:03.800 to break down what I was supposed to be looking 862 00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.239 for in the defense and where the alignment was. You 863 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:09.440 won't understand that. Shut the fuck up. What a bad question. 864 00:37:11.750 --> 00:37:13.789 So where do I want to finish? Oh, let's talk 865 00:37:13.809 --> 00:37:18.010 about Josh Allen, the luckiest motherfucker on the planet. That 866 00:37:18.050 --> 00:37:22.329 game was over. Pom, did you watch the Bills-Texans game? 867 00:37:22.349 --> 00:37:24.559 Because it queued to the end of it after the Jets. 868 00:37:25.380 --> 00:37:27.519 Dude, that's one game I didn't see this weekend. I'll 869 00:37:27.539 --> 00:37:30.780 defer to you guys. Yeah, I saw the final, but 870 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:32.130 you tell me what you guys thought about it. 871 00:37:32.409 --> 00:37:34.769 So after the Jets game was over, it went to 872 00:37:34.809 --> 00:37:40.170 that for coverage. The Bills were driving. Dave, they were 873 00:37:40.190 --> 00:37:44.010 up 36-30, right? I think the Texans. It was something 874 00:37:44.030 --> 00:37:44.269 like that. 875 00:37:44.289 --> 00:37:49.090 No, it was closer than that because after a touchdown, 876 00:37:49.710 --> 00:37:51.650 the Texans needed a touchdown. 877 00:37:51.809 --> 00:37:53.739 Then it was like a five-point difference. It was like 878 00:37:53.739 --> 00:37:57.880 32 or something. Josh Allen's at the 40- or 30-yard 879 00:37:57.900 --> 00:38:01.199 line on the other side, the Texans' side. He throws 880 00:38:01.260 --> 00:38:04.219 a bomb into the end zone. When I tell you, Pom, 881 00:38:04.780 --> 00:38:08.440 it was a punt. to the, to the D it 882 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.510 was basically, it was basically a punt. And the D-back 883 00:38:11.530 --> 00:38:13.750 drops it. And then the very next play, Josh Allen 884 00:38:13.769 --> 00:38:17.590 scores a touchdown. And it was like, he's the luckiest motherfucker. 885 00:38:17.750 --> 00:38:19.650 It's not like he didn't, he did. 886 00:38:19.849 --> 00:38:21.150 He played well all game. 887 00:38:21.170 --> 00:38:23.230 Josh Allen played a great game. 888 00:38:23.469 --> 00:38:24.769 MVP level game. 889 00:38:25.090 --> 00:38:28.309 But it's just annoying because he threw the most interceptable 890 00:38:28.349 --> 00:38:31.019 ball possible. And the Texas defense. 891 00:38:30.889 --> 00:38:33.400 Said, no, thank you, sir. You can still play the game. 892 00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:34.920 It's funny you say that. 893 00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.019 Cause I didn't, I didn't see it live, but, um, 894 00:38:37.460 --> 00:38:39.829 and I'm not comparing him to Tom Brady, but he 895 00:38:39.889 --> 00:38:42.920 has like that, that Tom Brady thing where like the, 896 00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.050 the ball always bounces the right way for him. I feel, 897 00:38:45.090 --> 00:38:45.880 I mean, maybe that's the. 898 00:38:45.860 --> 00:38:49.030 Bitter, unless it's the playoffs, unless it's the AFC championship. 899 00:38:49.070 --> 00:38:51.150 That's the only time. This is the AFC championship. Fine. 900 00:38:51.570 --> 00:38:54.349 But yeah, dude, the guy can, that can do no wrong, man. 901 00:38:54.409 --> 00:38:54.809 I love him. 902 00:38:54.889 --> 00:38:55.230 I hate that. 903 00:38:55.269 --> 00:38:55.579 I love him. 904 00:38:55.590 --> 00:38:57.829 Cause he's on the bills, but he's a player and 905 00:38:57.849 --> 00:38:59.409 he's an absolute stick at golf too. 906 00:38:59.889 --> 00:39:01.960 He's, you know what though too. And it's like, I 907 00:39:02.019 --> 00:39:04.719 hated it because obviously we all, you know, are guilty 908 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:06.019 of falling into the reels. 909 00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:06.280 Right. 910 00:39:06.860 --> 00:39:09.639 And one of them was like, Someone titled it like, 911 00:39:09.659 --> 00:39:11.650 you'll never make me hate Josh Allen. So I'm like, go, 912 00:39:11.670 --> 00:39:13.210 let me fucking hate this guy. And then it was 913 00:39:13.230 --> 00:39:15.829 a video of him just going to like a consistently 914 00:39:15.849 --> 00:39:18.809 going to like a children's hospital in Buffalo, being super 915 00:39:18.829 --> 00:39:21.329 nice to fans. And here I am like, fuck this guy. 916 00:39:21.369 --> 00:39:24.889 I hate him. He's so nice. Like, oh, he just 917 00:39:24.909 --> 00:39:26.570 seems like a nice guy. Like, you know what? 918 00:39:26.889 --> 00:39:28.900 I don't like him. He flops too much. I'll use 919 00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.460 that big and you flop. That's bitch move. That's bitch move. 920 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:33.960 I'll hate you on the field, but you know what though? 921 00:39:33.980 --> 00:39:35.599 Here's the thing as a competitor, I'll hate him. And 922 00:39:35.619 --> 00:39:37.860 it's similar to Tom Brady, right? I always respect Tom 923 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:39.699 Brady for how he played, but I hate the guy 924 00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:40.260 for what he did. 925 00:39:40.380 --> 00:39:40.559 Right. 926 00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:43.030 And it seems like with Josh Allen, it's like, I 927 00:39:43.110 --> 00:39:47.110 enjoy celebrities and athletes that get it, but, It really 928 00:39:47.150 --> 00:39:49.949 seems like Josh Allen gets it. He understands who he 929 00:39:50.110 --> 00:39:53.530 is to Buffalo, to his fans, and he's the type 930

00:39:53.570 --> 00:39:56.449 of guy that will go. As everyone else in the 931 00:39:56.469 --> 00:39:58.820 locker room, he'll be their last signing autographs. He will 932 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.500 take the time to go to the Children's Hospital. On 933 00:40:01.539 --> 00:40:03.900 the field, I hope he has explosive diarrhea every time 934 00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:07.860 he plays the Jets. Off the field, I can't dislike 935 00:40:08.420 --> 00:40:12.269 off the field Josh Allen. Again, another guy that has 936 00:40:12.309 --> 00:40:14.920 the ability to have a smoking hot wife and still 937 00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.340 play football pretty well because he has Haley Steinfeld that 938 00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:21.340 he just had a kid with. Good for him. Again, 939 00:40:21.409 --> 00:40:24.110 the comparison to Tom Brady, hot wife, able to ignore 940 00:40:24.230 --> 00:40:25.849 and still play well. Good for him. 941 00:40:26.650 --> 00:40:29.610 I'd rather, I'd rather this, the distinction where, uh, I 942 00:40:29.670 --> 00:40:31.500 actually like Josh Allen. Like I like to see him 943 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.280 play well or whatever. I've had him in fantasy a 944 00:40:33.300 --> 00:40:34.760 few times. So I got to watch him a lot. 945 00:40:35.019 --> 00:40:36.960 That's why you, because I care about fantasy. 946 00:40:37.139 --> 00:40:38.039 That's the only reason. 947 00:40:38.059 --> 00:40:40.360 But, but dude, I'm such a petty jets fan. Dude, 948 00:40:40.389 --> 00:40:43.710 you'll still find me in some random Twitter thread, making 949 00:40:43.730 --> 00:40:47.159 the argument. unsuccessfully that Peyton Manning was a better quarterback 950 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.480 than Tom Brady, dude. I just get absolutely flamed. 951 00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.039 But you have to, you have to. 952 00:40:52.179 --> 00:40:55.340 Well, here's the thing though. We all have to hate 953 00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:58.480 Peyton Manning now too, because he gave us fucking Adam Gase. 954 00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.800 The only reason Adam Gase was our head coach is 955 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.739 because Peyton convinced Woody to sign him. And then, oh no. 956 00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:06.730 So it's one of those things where it's like, now 957 00:41:06.809 --> 00:41:08.610 I have to hate Peyton because then Peyton talks shit 958 00:41:08.630 --> 00:41:09.150 about the team. 959 00:41:09.170 --> 00:41:10.110 Yeah, exactly. 960 00:41:11.010 --> 00:41:12.389 It's like Peyton can eat a dick too. 961 00:41:12.650 --> 00:41:12.929 Okay. 962 00:41:13.269 --> 00:41:16.500 Like, I hate them all. Give me Drew Brees, okay? 963 00:41:16.539 --> 00:41:18.179 Short kings for life. Drew Brees is a short king. 964 00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:18.860 Short kings for life. 965 00:41:18.900 --> 00:41:21.420 There you go. Short kings for life. So Doug Flutie, 966 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.719 Drew Brees. I'm all in there. So what do we 967 00:41:24.739 --> 00:41:27.119 think for the Packers? I'm going full circle. Are we 968 00:41:27.139 --> 00:41:29.199 getting the dub this weekend? Pom, what do you think? 969 00:41:31.349 --> 00:41:31.909 Come on, dude. 970 00:41:31.949 --> 00:41:33.230 Don't make me say this. It's happening. 971 00:41:36.860 --> 00:41:37.840 Okay, yeah. 972 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.260 I'm going to assume we're all going to say the 973 00:41:40.300 --> 00:41:42.199 Jets are going to win. 974 00:41:42.219 --> 00:41:44.769 Before you say anything, this is the field we're playing on. 975 00:41:45.190 --> 00:41:46.329 How pretty is that? 976 00:41:46.670 --> 00:41:47.530 Look at that. 977 00:41:48.489 --> 00:41:52.210 I love the white on green secondary logo in the 978 00:41:52.289 --> 00:41:56.170 end zones because we have a Jet finally. They actually 979 00:41:56.210 --> 00:41:57.010 are using a Jet. 980 00:41:57.789 --> 00:42:03.190 It's pretty. This is sick, by the way. What's the 981 00:42:03.230 --> 00:42:04.739 weather Sunday? It's raining. 982 00:42:05.010 --> 00:42:05.730 It's heavy rain. 983 00:42:05.769 --> 00:42:08.750 Right now the prediction is that heavy, heavy rain. So 984 00:42:08.769 --> 00:42:10.969 a lot of running, which I think benefits us. 985 00:42:11.070 --> 00:42:11.969 Breeze some Braille in time. 986 00:42:12.690 --> 00:42:15.309 Let's say, I'll say Jets 24-20. 987 00:42:18.050 --> 00:42:18.710 David, what do you think? 988 00:42:18.969 --> 00:42:19.710 And these are the threads. 989 00:42:21.050 --> 00:42:23.090 Oh, that's sick. That's so sick. Yeah. 990 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:26.300 I'm going to go in a similar way. I think 991 00:42:26.380 --> 00:42:29.199 we put up 27. I think they put up 20. 992 00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:30.079 We'll go 20. 993 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:33.820 I think it's sloppy and ugly in 16-10. I think 994 00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:37.409 the Jets' defense does well because there's not going to 995 00:42:37.429 --> 00:42:41.510 be as much passing. But I'm thinking 16-10. And also, Dave, 996 00:42:41.530 --> 00:42:44.650 did you see what Eugene wore to practice today with 997 00:42:44.670 --> 00:42:45.349 the white helmet? 998 00:42:45.550 --> 00:42:46.090 The black jersey. 999 00:42:46.139 --> 00:42:48.940 A black jersey and green. He just looked like a Frankenstein. 1000 00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:53.760 But I'm excited. I'm excited. And that means that we're 1001 00:42:53.780 --> 00:42:56.099 going to lose because every time I'm excited, they rip 1002 00:42:56.139 --> 00:42:59.300 our fucking hearts out. So that's just, so let's get 1003 00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.300 to some comments here. Nate, you saying Emmett Johnson look 1004 00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:04.849 good too. He certainly did. And then he said, kids 1005 00:43:04.889 --> 00:43:05.769 going to be really good. 1006 00:43:05.829 --> 00:43:06.030 Yes. 1007 00:43:06.940 --> 00:43:10.019 Caveatai saying he wasn't lucky last year against the Broncos 1008 00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:11.969 in the playoffs.

Yeah, but the Broncos weren't lucky either 1009 00:43:11.989 --> 00:43:13.909 when your quarterback took a knee and broke. 1010 00:43:13.750 --> 00:43:15.289 His left foot. I was going to say the Patriots 1011 00:43:15.389 --> 00:43:18.329 were the luckiest out of that. That's who was lucky 1012 00:43:18.389 --> 00:43:18.949 last year. 1013 00:43:19.110 --> 00:43:24.989 The schedule. That's it. Caveat saying Peyton Manning was a 1014 00:43:25.010 --> 00:43:26.300 better quarterback than Tom Brady. 1015 00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:29.579 Dude, I almost have the argument memorized by now. I mean, 1016 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:34.780 obviously the five– The five-time MVP, obviously. Listen, he's got 1017 00:43:34.820 --> 00:43:36.679 two Super Bowls in his own right. If you just 1018 00:43:36.699 --> 00:43:39.119 want to count rings, then Bill Russell's the greatest basketball 1019 00:43:39.139 --> 00:43:40.920 player of all time. But nobody makes that argument because 1020 00:43:40.940 --> 00:43:43.880 it's not all about rings. And Peyton does have two. 1021 00:43:43.980 --> 00:43:47.539 He's 3-2, I believe, against Brady in the AFC Championship game. 1022 00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:50.800 Does that make Mark Sanchez better than both of them? 1023 00:43:50.860 --> 00:43:52.800 Because I think he's like 3-1 against them. 1024 00:43:56.230 --> 00:43:59.739 Playoff success can't be the only thing. It's a team sport. 1025 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.059 So yeah, it counts for something. But if you're asking 1026 00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:04.980 me who is the best to ever play the position 1027 00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.619 that I've ever seen in my life, obviously I never 1028 00:44:07.659 --> 00:44:11.550 really saw Prime Marino play. But I think Peyton Manning 1029 00:44:11.590 --> 00:44:13.250 is the best to ever play the position. You want 1030 00:44:13.269 --> 00:44:16.429 to say Tom Brady had the best career, fine. But dude, 1031 00:44:16.449 --> 00:44:17.050 for me, it's Peyton. 1032 00:44:17.809 --> 00:44:20.269 I mean, my biggest issue with Peyton is people forget 1033 00:44:20.369 --> 00:44:22.110 that for the first six or seven years, he couldn't 1034 00:44:22.130 --> 00:44:24.599 get out of the first round. It wasn't like he 1035 00:44:24.659 --> 00:44:26.579 couldn't go deep in the playoffs. He would get in 1036 00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:28.570 the first round and lose, and that was the biggest 1037 00:44:28.650 --> 00:44:29.989 knock on him. 1038 00:44:30.110 --> 00:44:32.090 I think it still is. It still is. 1039 00:44:33.210 --> 00:44:36.019 He would have amazing regular seasons, and he would go 1040 00:44:36.059 --> 00:44:38.079 and do things, and then for whatever reason in the 1041 00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:40.639 first round. And it wasn't like– and you say it's 1042 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:42.920 a team game, and it is. But it wasn't like 1043 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:44.960 they were losing and he was getting four touchdowns. It 1044 00:44:44.980 --> 00:44:48.719 was like four interception bad first round. So it's like 1045 00:44:49.059 --> 00:44:51.409 that is a huge knock where it's the opposite with 1046 00:44:51.449 --> 00:44:55.610 Tom Terrific, where he would not be the best regular season. 1047 00:44:55.630 --> 00:44:57.489 He'd be one of the best. But then the moment 1048 00:44:57.530 --> 00:45:00.460 the playoffs hit. Here he is throwing to guys you've 1049 00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:03.699 never heard of. His first two or three Super Bowls 1050 00:45:04.019 --> 00:45:09.039 were the non-legendary Tim Brown, Deion Branch, and there was 1051 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:12.570 a third wide receiver I don't remember. That was before Gronk, 1052 00:45:12.710 --> 00:45:16.389 before Hernandez. He was handing the ball off to Kevin Falk, 1053 00:45:16.710 --> 00:45:20.050 who no one's going to mistake for Marshall Falk. They 1054 00:45:20.070 --> 00:45:22.230 had a great defense. I will say that. Vince Wilfork, 1055 00:45:22.389 --> 00:45:28.260 Teddy Bruschi, they were amazing. But Tom won Super Bowls 1056 00:45:28.460 --> 00:45:31.760 with guys on offense. And it wasn't– his first real 1057 00:45:32.139 --> 00:45:37.440 great player was Randy Moss. So that's the difference. You 1058 00:45:37.460 --> 00:45:41.570 can argue Manning had Harrison. Manning had Reggie Wayne. Manning– 1059 00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:42.420 Joseph Adai? 1060 00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:42.800 Meh. 1061 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:45.550 Okay. He created Joseph Adai. But he had Dallas Clark. 1062 00:45:45.619 --> 00:45:48.750 People forget how fucking good Dallas Clark was. So– and 1063 00:45:48.769 --> 00:45:50.969 he also had a really good offensive line. Reggie Wayne. 1064 00:45:51.820 --> 00:45:53.420 I'm not saying I believe my argument. 1065 00:45:53.460 --> 00:45:53.940 I'm just saying. 1066 00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:58.000 Well, Pom, if you want some help with your argument, 1067 00:45:58.019 --> 00:45:59.739 I don't know if you follow Barry on Twitter. 1068 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:00.820 David Perry. 1069 00:46:01.500 --> 00:46:04.219 Oh, he's a huge Tom Brady hater, right? 1070 00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:04.539 Yes. 1071 00:46:04.659 --> 00:46:07.380 In fact, he's always bringing up stats to actually help 1072 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.130 your argument. Will Vick was making fun of Bo Nix. 1073 00:46:10.949 --> 00:46:14.829 averaged at the target 3.6 yards. Average American watches TV 1074 00:46:14.849 --> 00:46:20.429 from about 3.67 yards. And he said Tom Brady's average position, 55, 1075 00:46:20.429 --> 00:46:20.969 was 3.43. 1076 00:46:20.969 --> 00:46:24.329 In Super Bowl XLIX, 3.56. He won Super Bowl MVP 1077 00:46:24.349 --> 00:46:27.889 both times. So you want something to help with your argument? 1078 00:46:27.949 --> 00:46:31.269 Just poach off Barry because he actually has some pretty 1079 00:46:31.349 --> 00:46:33.329 fun stuff to make fun of Tom with. 1080 00:46:33.349 --> 00:46:33.969 I'm not going to lie. 1081

00:46:34.449 --> 00:46:37.530 Dude, that's a great follow, by the way. Yes. 1082 00:46:37.650 --> 00:46:40.559 Yeah. Barry is a good follow. So if you were 1083 00:46:40.619 --> 00:46:42.940 to hear caveat ties being a jerk saying three to 1084 00:46:42.980 --> 00:46:47.719 seven Packers, I'm not happy with that, Rollin. Not happy 1085 00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:49.070 with that at all. Don't do that. 1086 00:46:49.110 --> 00:46:51.010 Dude, I will say, if the score is anything close 1087 00:46:51.030 --> 00:46:53.750 to what you said, Cuesta, 16-10 or some really low score, 1088 00:46:53.849 --> 00:46:54.989 I think the Jets win that game. 1089 00:46:55.010 --> 00:46:56.550 Oh, yeah. It's a sloppy beat. 1090 00:46:56.650 --> 00:46:57.070 For real. 1091 00:46:57.090 --> 00:47:03.329 Yeah, for real. It's really hard. You can have good 1092 00:47:03.369 --> 00:47:05.809 versus bad team, but it is hard to destroy a 1093 00:47:05.869 --> 00:47:08.730 team on both sides of the football on the line 1094 00:47:08.750 --> 00:47:10.929 because typically the line play is where you'll get a 1095 00:47:10.969 --> 00:47:13.659 little bit more even, some more tit for tat, and 1096 00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.780 the skills is where it's a big. The Jets demolish 1097 00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.199 the Titans on both sides of the line. And I 1098 00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:21.960 think that's something that carries over, where four out of 1099 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.780 these five guys on the Jets started every game for 1100 00:47:24.820 --> 00:47:27.780 the team last year. Dylan Parnum was a 17-game starter 1101 00:47:27.820 --> 00:47:30.670 last year and was every bit the part this game 1102 00:47:30.769 --> 00:47:34.110 of a really good guard. So I think that offensive 1103 00:47:34.150 --> 00:47:36.630 line is not going to take a step back. I 1104 00:47:36.670 --> 00:47:39.210 think they're going to play well again, and that really helps. 1105 00:47:39.829 --> 00:47:41.789 Now we'll see about the D-line, right? Because this is 1106 00:47:41.829 --> 00:47:45.239 a different animal. This is Jordan Love, who's not Cam Ward. 1107 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.090 This is... Watson and a really good receiver. 1108 00:47:48.179 --> 00:47:50.690 It's also going to be really interesting because they're going 1109 00:47:50.710 --> 00:47:55.949 from Brian Flores, who's fucking madman 82. Bring that up, David. 1110 00:47:56.250 --> 00:47:57.190 You need to bring that up. 1111 00:47:58.550 --> 00:48:00.360 By the way, while he's looking for that, what's the 1112 00:48:00.380 --> 00:48:01.039 spread this weekend? 1113 00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:01.599 What's the line? 1114 00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:02.280 I think it. 1115 00:48:02.219 --> 00:48:04.340 Was four and a half. It started off as four 1116 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:04.659 and a half. 1117 00:48:04.699 --> 00:48:06.440 I thought it got down to three and a half. 1118 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:11.199 Was it down? So it's In a way, they're

saying 1119 00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:14.500 Packers plus six because the home team always gets minus three. 1120 00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:18.010 So if you're going Packers minus three, I'd say they're 1121 00:48:18.030 --> 00:48:19.849 thinking the Jets will lose by six at least. 1122 00:48:20.170 --> 00:48:22.730 Yes, this is a graph of defensive pressure rate versus 1123 00:48:22.789 --> 00:48:26.489 blitz rate, especially early downs. The Vikings up in the 1124 00:48:26.750 --> 00:48:30.179 80th percentile are just off the fucking graph. This is 1125 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:32.960 what Brian Flores did to the Packers and Jordan Love. 1126 00:48:33.579 --> 00:48:36.059 They might have some PTSD after this game. 1127 00:48:37.019 --> 00:48:39.820 So listen, Pom, I did the stats. So Brian Flores 1128 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:45.059 blitzed on, what was it, 82% of plays for the defense. 1129 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:48.400 The Packers ran 67 offensive plays. That means this fucking 1130 00:48:48.460 --> 00:48:49.719 madman blitzed on 56 of 67 plays. 1131 00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.559 Dude, he lapped the field according to this chart. I mean, Jesus. 1132 00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:55.719 That's incredible. 1133 00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:59.139 It's incredible, buddy. The Jets were in third on how 1134 00:48:59.179 --> 00:49:01.579 many blitzes, and we called it like 40-something percent of 1135 00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:03.219 the time. We called it near half the game we 1136 00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:06.639 were blitzing. But it was nowhere fucking near Brian Flores. 1137 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.599 But Dan Quinn was the second with 50% was a 1138 00:49:09.619 --> 00:49:12.380 Brian Flores per day. So it's like the two mad 1139 00:49:12.420 --> 00:49:15.280 lads were up top. But um some more on the 1140 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.940 comments here nate saying no way payton was not i'm 1141 00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:21.579 saying he's saying the best so yeah um caveat i 1142 00:49:21.619 --> 00:49:25.369 saying i probably agree with them brady had better teams 1143 00:49:25.510 --> 00:49:27.369 i don't agree with that i don't agree that brady 1144 00:49:27.570 --> 00:49:30.210 brady had a better defense brady had a better defense 1145 00:49:30.250 --> 00:49:32.150 up until the super bowl years because i think that 1146 00:49:32.769 --> 00:49:35.449 uh Peyton's defense certainly helped. He had the two best 1147 00:49:35.550 --> 00:49:39.030 rushing defensive ends. He had Bob Sanders just actually killing 1148 00:49:39.050 --> 00:49:41.119 people back there. It was like a 5-8 freight train. 1149 00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:43.519 Yeah, but he was never healthy, though, unfortunately. 1150 00:49:43.539 --> 00:49:45.400 I just like watching him kill people, okay? It was fun. 1151 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:51.949 Nate T saying, Tom Brady, H2H, head-to-head is 11-6. Yeah, yeah, 1152 00:49:52.139 --> 00:49:54.769 but those were always fun. Again, a few of those 1153 00:49:54.829 --> 00:50:00.300 were first-round playoff games where Tom Ape Peyton's lunch. Caveatizing 1154 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.880 John Elway was the best ever. You could certainly argue 1155 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:06.739 that John Elway is ridiculous. The helicopter play will always 1156 00:50:06.780 --> 00:50:09.539 be legend, but John Elway is another one that couldn't 1157 00:50:09.579 --> 00:50:12.139 get over the hump for most of his career until 1158 00:50:12.179 --> 00:50:12.840 he won too late. 1159 00:50:12.860 --> 00:50:18.630 If you don't care about rings, I think Dan Marino, dude, 1160 00:50:18.650 --> 00:50:21.769 throwing for 5,000 yards in whatever it was, 1983. I mean, 1161 00:50:21.789 --> 00:50:24.329 if you put him into today's NFL, I think he 1162 00:50:24.349 --> 00:50:25.010 clears everybody. 1163 00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:27.679 Jim Kelly, then you'd have to argue. Jim Kelly got 1164 00:50:27.699 --> 00:50:30.449 the four Super Bowls, right? Jim Kelly got the four 1165 00:50:30.489 --> 00:50:33.250 Super Bowls. And again, it wasn't all on him. He 1166 00:50:33.289 --> 00:50:36.429 had Thurman Thomas and things like that. But people forget 1167 00:50:36.469 --> 00:50:39.210 Jim Kelly exists. And again, he's a Bills. I hate 1168 00:50:39.250 --> 00:50:42.730 the Bills. But you don't get to four Super Bowls 1169 00:50:42.769 --> 00:50:45.739 by mistake. You're one of the greatest quarterbacks and no 1170 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:49.019 one cares about him. Nate, you're saying Peyton couldn't win 1171 00:50:49.219 --> 00:50:51.900 one until Rex Grossman lined up against him. It's a 1172 00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:55.239 good point. It's a very good point. Rex Grossman was balls. 1173 00:50:55.699 --> 00:50:56.139 All right. 1174 00:50:56.179 --> 00:50:58.050 But if we want to pick apart Peyton's win, I 1175 00:50:58.090 --> 00:51:00.170 mean Tom Brady's first win, he did almost nothing. The 1176 00:51:00.210 --> 00:51:01.070 defense won that game. 1177 00:51:01.090 --> 00:51:01.530 Come on. 1178 00:51:02.070 --> 00:51:04.789 Adam Vinatieri won all of them. Let's really be honest. 1179 00:51:05.269 --> 00:51:07.349 Adam Vinatieri and then who do they have right after 1180 00:51:07.389 --> 00:51:11.809 him that basically was Vinatieri's clone? Oh. Gronkowski. 1181 00:51:11.869 --> 00:51:12.929 Gronkowski. 1182 00:51:12.949 --> 00:51:14.469 Gronkowski. Gronkowski. Gronkowski. 1183 00:51:14.510 --> 00:51:15.909 How did they do that? It's like when they had 1184 00:51:15.949 --> 00:51:19.019 Wes Welker and then they just basically created Julian Edelman out. 1185 00:51:18.940 --> 00:51:20.519 Of a lab as a clone. Yeah, they just cloned him. 1186 00:51:20.900 --> 00:51:22.900 Like what the fuck? Like how did they do that? 1187 00:51:23.630 --> 00:51:26.110 We can't find a kicker or a quarterback for the 1188 00:51:26.150 --> 00:51:28.429 last 50 years, and they could just make people in 1189 00:51:28.449 --> 00:51:32.610 a lab. I hate these people so

much. Nate, he's saying, yeah, 1190 00:51:32.650 --> 00:51:34.969 without rings, it's hard to argue against Dan the man 1191 00:51:35.329 --> 00:51:37.769 decades ahead of his time. But here, guys, what are 1192 00:51:37.789 --> 00:51:38.909 we going to argue with Dan? He made it to 1193 00:51:39.010 --> 00:51:42.449 one Super Bowl his first year, lost, and never got 1194 00:51:42.530 --> 00:51:45.989 close again. Yes, he was great, but he had really 1195 00:51:46.010 --> 00:51:50.199 good wide receivers. Like, he had Clayton and, God, I'm 1196 00:51:50.219 --> 00:51:51.780 blanking on his name, but he had two really good 1197 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:55.559 wide receivers in the NFL. And he had the less 1198 00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:58.400 good version of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who got sued because he 1199 00:51:58.420 --> 00:52:02.909 took the real Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's name. But, I mean, it's 1200 00:52:02.949 --> 00:52:06.170 not like he– I take guys that go to the 1201 00:52:06.190 --> 00:52:08.110 Super Bowls, at least get there multiple times and then 1202 00:52:08.170 --> 00:52:11.280 win some. The regular season argument is like, okay, Charles 1203 00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:13.039 Barkley was great. You're never putting him in the top 1204 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:17.849 five because he never won a ring. So– I don't know. 1205 00:52:17.889 --> 00:52:19.889 Rings do matter. They're not the only thing, but they 1206 00:52:19.909 --> 00:52:20.250 do matter. 1207 00:52:20.409 --> 00:52:22.349 Top five of what, though? Like all time? 1208 00:52:22.789 --> 00:52:24.889 All time. He's a top five power forward, but not 1209 00:52:25.090 --> 00:52:25.780 of everyone. 1210 00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.679 Because even then, with the top five, you don't necessarily 1211 00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:31.820 need a ring argument in the NBA for that still. 1212 00:52:32.219 --> 00:52:34.960 But I was going to say, top five power forward, 1213 00:52:34.980 --> 00:52:35.960 you're out of your fucking mind. 1214 00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:37.920 Oh, yeah. He's a top five power forward. 1215 00:52:38.340 --> 00:52:39.059 Yeah. 1216 00:52:39.099 --> 00:52:42.199 Well, listen, I'm also of the unpopular position that Kobe's 1217 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:44.880 not even possibly top 10 because he can't. He's not 1218 00:52:44.900 --> 00:52:47.880 even the best Laker. So- You can make that. 1219 00:52:47.980 --> 00:52:49.400 Is Kobe a top three Laker? 1220 00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:54.429 No. No. He's not better than Shaq. 1221 00:52:54.989 --> 00:52:55.789 No, I'm not. 1222 00:52:56.070 --> 00:52:56.429 I'm not. 1223 00:52:56.730 --> 00:52:58.730 I mean, he's not better than Kareem. He's not better 1224 00:52:58.750 --> 00:52:59.550 than James Worthy. 1225 00:52:59.570 --> 00:53:01.170 Magic? 1226 00:53:01.909 --> 00:53:04.289 No, he's maybe the fifth best Laker of all time. 1227 00:53:04.829 --> 00:53:07.670 Is LeBron a Laker? I don't consider LeBron a Laker. 1228 00:53:07.690 --> 00:53:09.449 LeBron's a top 10 Laker with what he was able 1229 00:53:09.469 --> 00:53:11.210 to do, but I think, you know. 1230 00:53:11.250 --> 00:53:12.250 For his time, yeah. 1231 00:53:12.269 --> 00:53:14.429 For his time, but he's a Cavalier and he's a 1232 00:53:14.449 --> 00:53:15.460 Heat member more than anything. 1233 00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:18.199 And I hate saying that because everybody loves Kobe or whatever, 1234 00:53:18.219 --> 00:53:21.159 the gamesmanship and everything, but I don't know. I think 1235 00:53:22.019 --> 00:53:24.519 he's just a little bit too high up most people's lists. 1236 00:53:25.260 --> 00:53:28.780 Yeah, yeah. Although it's people like him as a player. 1237 00:53:29.780 --> 00:53:33.849 That's really about it. He has the rings and everything 1238 00:53:33.889 --> 00:53:35.769 and all that. Don't get me wrong. He was great, 1239 00:53:35.989 --> 00:53:38.030 but he's not the best in his franchise. You can't 1240 00:53:38.070 --> 00:53:40.289 put him as a top five player unless your other 1241 00:53:40.349 --> 00:53:44.349 four are also Lakers. Like that's honestly just– it's the 1242 00:53:44.389 --> 00:53:48.750 unfortunate truth about Kobe being Bryant. And again, people like 1243 00:53:48.789 --> 00:53:52.489 to forget that when– Pom, when we would play backyard 1244 00:53:52.550 --> 00:53:55.369 basketball and you were just throwing up a whole lot 1245 00:53:55.409 --> 00:53:57.590 of shit that wasn't going to go in, what did 1246 00:53:57.610 --> 00:54:00.920 you yell because you knew who sometimes he would just chuck? Kobe. Kobe. 1247 00:54:01.429 --> 00:54:02.130 That's all we need. 1248 00:54:02.150 --> 00:54:02.650 Yo, Kobe. 1249 00:54:02.769 --> 00:54:03.329 Every time. 1250 00:54:03.869 --> 00:54:05.989 I disagree with the framing of that. We won't get 1251 00:54:06.030 --> 00:54:08.210 into this too much, but I disagree with the framing 1252 00:54:08.690 --> 00:54:11.820 that it was because you didn't know if it was 1253 00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:15.719 going to go in. No, it's because he made circus shots. 1254 00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.239 That's why. Not because it was just bullshit. 1255 00:54:19.500 --> 00:54:21.500 But Kobe was also a volume shooter. 1256 00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:22.380 Yeah, no doubt. 1257 00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:24.360 And he would shoot 40 times a game. Even if 1258 00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:26.780 Shaq was going, Shaq would have to take the ball 1259 00:54:26.860 --> 00:54:28.789 from Kobe because Kobe just shot. 1260 00:54:29.570 --> 00:54:32.349 But what I'm saying is the framing of, oh, I 1261 00:54:32.369 --> 00:54:35.099 didn't think it was going to– no, it was– This 1262 00:54:35.380 --> 00:54:38.860 is something that he would still make. It's something that's 1263 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.480 out of my field, but it's something that I've seen. 1264 00:54:41.980 --> 00:54:44.730 It's not, oh, this is just random bullshit. Go. I 1265 00:54:44.769 --> 00:54:46.150 disagree

with that framing. 1266 00:54:46.409 --> 00:54:48.929 I'll tell you right now, and again, Pom will attest 1267 00:54:48.949 --> 00:54:52.309 to this. If you were throwing something, especially in trash cans, right? 1268 00:54:52.329 --> 00:54:54.090 We did it all the time. You'd be from across 1269 00:54:54.130 --> 00:54:55.739 the room. What would we do, Pom? We'd yell, Kobe. 1270 00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:56.860 And just toss it. 1271 00:54:56.860 --> 00:54:58.550 Because Kobe threw up bullshit. When you went to the 1272 00:54:58.570 --> 00:55:01.090 classroom and did a fadeaway paper ball throw and it 1273 00:55:01.130 --> 00:55:03.230 went in, dude, and you yelled Kobe, there was nothing 1274 00:55:03.250 --> 00:55:03.789 better than that. 1275 00:55:04.030 --> 00:55:06.570 Yeah, no, I'm not saying that that did not happen. 1276 00:55:06.650 --> 00:55:10.329 I'm saying your framing of why you said it is incorrect. 1277 00:55:10.650 --> 00:55:11.570 That's what I'm saying. 1278 00:55:12.010 --> 00:55:14.889 Anyone that's truly a basketball fan will tell you Kobe 1279 00:55:14.909 --> 00:55:16.639 threw up a whole lot of bullshit that went in. 1280 00:55:16.670 --> 00:55:18.090 He was good and he did it, but it was 1281 00:55:18.139 --> 00:55:18.969 a whole lot of bullshit. 1282 00:55:18.989 --> 00:55:19.699 That's what I'm saying. 1283 00:55:19.739 --> 00:55:21.570 It's because it went in for him. 1284 00:55:21.579 --> 00:55:22.780 But he missed as many as he made. 1285 00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:24.340 You want to be as good as him. 1286 00:55:25.659 --> 00:55:26.139 We won't go. 1287 00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:29.320 So a few more comments. Caveatize. Adam Vinatieri is from 1288 00:55:29.380 --> 00:55:33.579 South Dakota, our most famous athlete. So we should stop 1289 00:55:33.659 --> 00:55:35.579 caring about him, Caveat. Is that what we're saying? He's 1290 00:55:35.619 --> 00:55:36.599 from South Dakota. 1291 00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:37.820 Shout out, South Dakota. 1292 00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:41.510 Caveat saying Aaron Rodgers could be in the conversation if 1293 00:55:41.550 --> 00:55:44.349 he had grit and drive and passion, which he doesn't have. 1294 00:55:44.389 --> 00:55:47.550 He has ayahuasca, and he can make fun of his 1295 00:55:47.590 --> 00:55:48.409 past relationship. 1296 00:55:48.429 --> 00:55:52.949 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm sorry, Caveat. You're wrong. 1297 00:55:53.250 --> 00:55:54.769 Brock Lesnar is from South Dakota. 1298 00:55:56.150 --> 00:55:56.409 Hey. 1299 00:55:56.989 --> 00:55:58.530 Brock Lesnar's your most famous. 1300 00:55:58.650 --> 00:56:00.389 Brock Lesnar. 1301 00:56:01.230 --> 00:56:03.469 Brock Lesnar's more famous, right? I would say so. 1302 00:56:03.510 --> 00:56:04.510 Yes. 1303 00:56:04.829 --> 00:56:07.550 Heavyweight champ, right? Yeah. 1304 00:56:07.610 --> 00:56:10.400 Did Brock Lesnar have a version of Snickers named after him, 1305 00:56:10.420 --> 00:56:12.599 like Adam Nugentieri? I don't think so. 1306 00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:14.099 I didn't even know that was a thing. 1307 00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:15.920 No, there was a commercial. It was Adam Nugentieri. 1308 00:56:15.940 --> 00:56:18.059 Hold that out of fucking recesses of your mind. 1309 00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:21.860 Listen, I called him Adam Nugentieri forever because of that commercial. 1310 00:56:23.139 --> 00:56:25.539 It was amazing. But Nate, you're saying Brock Lesnar was 1311 00:56:25.579 --> 00:56:26.460 born in South Dakota. 1312 00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:27.380 I only know that. 1313 00:56:27.659 --> 00:56:29.860 See, now I only know he was born in South 1314 00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:30.780 Dakota because you told me. 1315 00:56:31.500 --> 00:56:35.739 See, actually, no, I am wrong. Becky Hammond was born 1316 00:56:35.780 --> 00:56:39.619 in South Dakota. So she's definitely your most famous athlete. 1317 00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:43.719 Layups and chest shots, baby. Layups and chest shots. That's 1318 00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.750 all I want to say. Caveatai saying true, but I'd 1319 00:56:47.789 --> 00:56:49.949 say Adam is more famous. 1320 00:56:50.530 --> 00:56:50.730 Hmm. 1321 00:56:51.710 --> 00:56:54.590 I don't think so. Wrestling reaches millions. 1322 00:56:54.710 --> 00:56:58.210 It's not just wrestling, though. It's also MMA. He was 1323 00:56:58.250 --> 00:57:01.639 all over the fucking place. Brock Lesnar is pretty fucked. 1324 00:57:01.659 --> 00:57:04.699 I've never seen Lesnar compete. Listen, he's a Minnesota Vikings 1325 00:57:04.739 --> 00:57:05.800 practice squad beast. 1326 00:57:07.019 --> 00:57:08.300 He wasn't a practice squad. 1327 00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:10.239 He wore number 69. He suplexed somebody. 1328 00:57:10.340 --> 00:57:12.679 But also as a wrestler and all that type of stuff. 1329 00:57:13.340 --> 00:57:15.260 The guy, he's pretty big. 1330 00:57:16.090 --> 00:57:18.449 Yeah, listen, he dominated UFC. He was the champion. If 1331 00:57:18.489 --> 00:57:21.090 he didn't get hurt, his reign would have gotten much longer. 1332 00:57:22.449 --> 00:57:24.570 Kane was just really fucking good, dude. 1333 00:57:24.590 --> 00:57:27.340 Kane Velasquez is just really fucking good. 1334 00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:29.579 He was, I mean, obviously he was a wrestler, but 1335 00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:32.179 he got to MMA pretty late in life, too, for 1336 00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:34.219 a fighter. I mean, if he had grown up doing that, 1337 00:57:34.260 --> 00:57:36.179 I feel like that's, he would have been the real deal. 1338 00:57:36.340 --> 00:57:39.559 Yeah, like, don't forget, like, Mir caught him with a 1339 00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:41.820 fucking leg lock, like you said, because he was so 1340 00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:42.280 late in MMA. 1341 00:57:42.340 --> 00:57:45.099 Yeah, that doesn't happen if you grow up doing MMA. 1342 00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:48.590 Yeah, but, I mean, the man's a damn monster. And 1343 00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:50.510 just the fact

that he was able to win the 1344 00:57:50.550 --> 00:57:53.909 belt is ridiculous in and of itself. But I think 1345 00:57:54.389 --> 00:57:57.030 maybe if he really, really tried, maybe he could still 1346 00:57:57.050 --> 00:57:59.510 compete at that high level, like even after Kane beat him. 1347 00:57:59.550 --> 00:58:01.570 But Kane Velasquez was a fucking animal. 1348 00:58:01.829 --> 00:58:02.190 Kane was good. 1349 00:58:02.210 --> 00:58:03.710 Like a different type of animal at that point. 1350 00:58:04.210 --> 00:58:07.429 Kane was good. So, Nate, with the ultimate stat, Lesnar 1351 00:58:07.469 --> 00:58:10.989 sold more pay-per-views than Adams. So, it's like 20-0 at 1352 00:58:11.030 --> 00:58:13.260 this point. So, yeah, I agree, Nate. I don't think 1353 00:58:13.300 --> 00:58:16.420 Adam Nugateri has sold one pay-per-view. All right, so you 1354 00:58:16.500 --> 00:58:18.280 brought up Becky Hammond, and I want to talk about 1355 00:58:18.500 --> 00:58:23.389 women being batshit. So, Tom, are we going to see 1356 00:58:23.610 --> 00:58:28.150 anything change after a woman murdered brutally three of her 1357 00:58:28.190 --> 00:58:31.309 children and nine women and two weak men wanted to 1358 00:58:31.349 --> 00:58:31.889 let her walk? 1359 00:58:33.309 --> 00:58:42.389 Dude, this one really surprised me because this one crossed– race, 1360 00:58:42.570 --> 00:58:46.079 it crossed party lines. It really seemed to be like 1361 00:58:46.260 --> 00:58:50.860 middle-aged women against everybody else, middle-aged white women in particular. 1362 00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.880 And everybody else was like, are you fucking kidding me? 1363 00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.199 What the fuck are we talking about here? Like, what 1364 00:58:56.239 --> 00:59:00.139 are we talking about? I mean, I, I couldn't encapsulate 1365 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.219 it any better than I saw they were doing a 1366 00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:05.280 street interview and the woman was explaining to the guy 1367 00:59:05.300 --> 00:59:07.800 interviewing her that she thought she was innocent because of 1368 00:59:07.820 --> 00:59:11.030 the postpartum psychosis, blah, blah, blah. um he goes well 1369 00:59:11.179 --> 00:59:13.019 what if she had did it while she was saying 1370 00:59:13.059 --> 00:59:14.900 the n-word would that be okay would she still be 1371 00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:16.780 innocent and she goes well no that wouldn't be okay 1372 00:59:17.380 --> 00:59:22.480 it's like the strangling the three kids was whatever but 1373 00:59:22.500 --> 00:59:24.719 the n-word is where you draw the line it's like 1374 00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:29.349 It shouldn't even be funny. It's the absurdity of it. 1375 00:59:29.409 --> 00:59:30.500 It's the absurdity of it. 1376 00:59:31.150 --> 00:59:32.730 So I forget who I was listening to, but somebody 1377 00:59:32.829 --> 00:59:35.369 framed it this way and it's true. In a way, 1378 00:59:35.670 --> 00:59:39.369 it's similar to OJ in that OJ was culturally just 1379 00:59:39.389 --> 00:59:41.500 a dividing line where it was like white versus black. 1380 00:59:41.940 --> 00:59:45.219 And this is women versus men, right? Like this is 1381 00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:48.739 a whole bunch of like white. It's a bunch of 1382 00:59:48.820 --> 00:59:51.159 awfuls without the L. It's not just only liberals. It's 1383 00:59:51.260 --> 00:59:54.500 a bunch of conservative women jumped on this too. And 1384 00:59:54.539 --> 00:59:56.480 then it's just a bunch of dudes looking at it 1385 00:59:56.539 --> 01:00:01.500 going– and Dave, I've maintained this from the get-go. Two 1386 01:00:01.579 --> 01:00:04.619 things could be true at once. The chick killed people. 1387 01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:06.219 She should go to jail for the rest of her life. 1388 01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:07.809 And if she could have been killed, she should be. 1389 01:00:08.710 --> 01:00:11.389 And also there possibly seems to be holes in the 1390 01:00:11.429 --> 01:00:14.769 medical system for women that we can talk about. But 1391 01:00:14.809 --> 01:00:18.519 that doesn't mean this woman should walk. She needs to 1392 01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:19.239 go away forever. 1393 01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:23.260 Yeah, and we had that discussion, what, two shows ago? Yeah, 1394 01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:26.469 a few weeks ago. For me, that shit's a separate 1395 01:00:26.510 --> 01:00:29.269 conversation to what should happen to her for what she did. 1396 01:00:29.670 --> 01:00:33.349 It's a completely and totally separate conversation. There's no reason 1397 01:00:33.389 --> 01:00:35.900 to go back and forth on it the way it 1398 01:00:35.969 --> 01:00:40.860 has happened. But it is really interesting because it kind 1399 01:00:40.900 --> 01:00:45.539 of is specifically white women. And you said middle age, 1400 01:00:45.579 --> 01:00:48.239 but I would even say it goes throughout the spectrum. 1401 01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:52.719 I mean, it's mainly like true crime. Like people bring 1402 01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:53.139 it up. 1403 01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:54.059 Yeah, pretty true. 1404 01:00:54.340 --> 01:00:56.139 Like when it went with a lot of women that 1405 01:00:56.179 --> 01:00:58.090 listen to a lot of true crime and they always 1406 01:00:58.110 --> 01:01:00.710 think that there's something else going on. And, you know, 1407 01:01:01.050 --> 01:01:03.550 a bunch of women that let's just be let's face it, 1408 01:01:03.570 --> 01:01:07.489 hate men also are on this train of, you know, 1409 01:01:08.090 --> 01:01:10.329 of just trying to kind of let her off. And 1410 01:01:10.489 --> 01:01:12.869 even the one of the jurors who in an interview said, 1411 01:01:13.710 --> 01:01:17.070 She even said that it was like a broader thing 1412 01:01:17.190 --> 01:01:21.000 for women as a whole to get her to have 1413 01:01:21.019 --> 01:01:24.300 this not guilty kind of come out if they could 1414 01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:24.980 have it

happen. 1415 01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:27.280 So in a. 1416 01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:30.360 Similar way to OJ, where the jurors afterwards said it 1417 01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:33.719 was about, you know, having about is a black man 1418 01:01:33.780 --> 01:01:34.159 on trial. 1419 01:01:34.179 --> 01:01:36.780 And it was against Rodney. It was revenge for Rodney King. 1420 01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:37.360 Exactly. 1421 01:01:37.380 --> 01:01:38.219 Exactly. Exactly. 1422 01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:40.900 You know, I agree with you too because I heard 1423 01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:44.000 another interviewer saying like, well, we wanted to do the 1424 01:01:44.059 --> 01:01:46.400 mistrial so she can get the help she needs. And 1425 01:01:46.460 --> 01:01:48.900 it's like– and then these same people were also complaining 1426 01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:52.039 that the juror that held out wasn't following the judge's instructions. 1427 01:01:52.099 --> 01:01:54.039 It's like, wait a minute. You're not there to get 1428 01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:56.159 her the help she needs. You're not there to make 1429 01:01:56.199 --> 01:01:59.039 a point for women. You were there to decide if 1430 01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:02.139 she was– there was never a disagreement, which again, the 1431 01:02:02.179 --> 01:02:04.659 true crime women were like– there might be some disagreement 1432 01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:07.570 as to if you know about if she actually killed 1433 01:02:07.590 --> 01:02:12.349 them no both sides including lindsey clancy agreed that they 1434 01:02:12.369 --> 01:02:16.630 she strangled her three kids brutally and what they were 1435 01:02:16.670 --> 01:02:20.230 debating is was her mental capacity enough to prove that 1436 01:02:20.329 --> 01:02:23.070 she knew it or she didn't that's all they were 1437 01:02:23.110 --> 01:02:25.570 there to prove and they were there to do and 1438 01:02:25.630 --> 01:02:28.659 like when you hear them saying this like They want 1439 01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:30.039 to be like, oh, well, we want to get that 1440 01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:32.940 juror kicked out. If they retry it, all fucking 12 1441 01:02:32.940 --> 01:02:34.420 should be gone. They should not be allowed to be 1442 01:02:34.460 --> 01:02:38.940 there again. You know, it's those women were activists. They 1443 01:02:38.980 --> 01:02:41.480 became activists for women. Yeah. 1444 01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:43.639 And I want to bring it up just to show 1445 01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:46.340 that she did say we knew that this is a 1446 01:02:46.380 --> 01:02:48.260 turning point and this would be something that could change 1447 01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:49.929 something to make it better for other women. 1448 01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:50.800 Like you can't. 1449 01:02:51.980 --> 01:02:54.079 I can't trust that person as a juror. 1450 01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:55.639 When you say something like that. 1451 01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:57.659 And, you know, I want to bring up, too, because, like, 1452 01:02:57.820 --> 01:03:00.000 I was thinking about this. Because remember, the big thing 1453 01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:02.000 was about, like, the exercise bands. And a lot of 1454 01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:04.579 your true crime women will go to the exercise bands. Well, 1455 01:03:05.059 --> 01:03:07.539 they had more of his DNA than hers. And I 1456 01:03:07.579 --> 01:03:08.900 was thinking, it was like, okay, what if he was 1457 01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:11.099 unwrapping it around their necks? Of course his DNA is 1458 01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:13.440 going to be more on it, right? Like, that's the thing. 1459 01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:17.530 It's like, he, like, the whole entire– Arguments that they 1460 01:03:17.570 --> 01:03:20.170 made all have holes in them that these true crime 1461 01:03:20.210 --> 01:03:22.730 women made. And I think my biggest issue is when 1462 01:03:22.750 --> 01:03:25.489 you hear these true crime women talk, they're arguing about 1463 01:03:25.530 --> 01:03:28.389 things they found out on TikTok and fucking Instagram and YouTube. 1464 01:03:28.909 --> 01:03:32.320 Not exactly what was brought up in the case. Now, 1465 01:03:32.449 --> 01:03:36.300 one thing I did hear, though, is that the female prosecutor. 1466 01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:40.539 was more of a distraction and didn't present it as well. 1467 01:03:40.579 --> 01:03:43.320 When you read it on paper, it reads pretty open 1468 01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:46.349 and shut. But in these high profile cases, how it's 1469 01:03:46.389 --> 01:03:49.929 presented does matter. That's why Johnny Cochran is so goddamn famous, right? 1470 01:03:49.969 --> 01:03:52.869 Because he was able to convince and do that. You know, 1471 01:03:53.030 --> 01:03:55.889 she came in with outfits that took away from the 1472 01:03:55.929 --> 01:03:58.760 case because she was more of the focal point. And 1473 01:03:59.099 --> 01:04:02.780 I heard her presentation wasn't good. And that matters. So 1474 01:04:03.099 --> 01:04:05.480 I don't think we could discount that too, where the jury, 1475 01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:06.639 and I don't know if they just start bringing a 1476 01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:10.610 female would help sway other females but if they do 1477 01:04:10.670 --> 01:04:15.050 retry this case which i think they have to she 1478 01:04:15.070 --> 01:04:17.030 this chick can't be on the case this female a 1479 01:04:17.170 --> 01:04:19.949 uh assistant prosecutor can't be on the case because when 1480 01:04:19.969 --> 01:04:22.389 you look at the facts of it lindsey quancy should 1481 01:04:22.429 --> 01:04:26.090 be gone for life and it's just a fucking travesty 1482 01:04:26.130 --> 01:04:28.550 so palm have you encountered anyone in your life that 1483 01:04:28.690 --> 01:04:29.829 actually is sympathetic for. 1484 01:04:29.769 --> 01:04:36.539 Her um Mostly internet stuff, but nobody really, really close 1485 01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:39.969 to me, thank goodness. But listen, I'm even open

to 1486 01:04:40.050 --> 01:04:44.269 the idea of some nuance of you making the argument of, okay, 1487 01:04:44.309 --> 01:04:46.690 she did it, but this is why she shouldn't be guilty. 1488 01:04:46.829 --> 01:04:48.130 I think you're wrong. I don't think you have a 1489 01:04:48.150 --> 01:04:51.449 very good argument. But this went so far beyond that, 1490 01:04:51.590 --> 01:04:54.190 almost to the point of it felt like a social– 1491 01:04:54.500 --> 01:04:56.579 Contagion or something like that we're like to the point 1492 01:04:56.599 --> 01:04:59.889 Where dude they're wearing pink Clapping for her as she's 1493 01:04:59.949 --> 01:05:01.110 coming up on the Bus. 1494 01:05:00.929 --> 01:05:04.090 Or whatever bullshit Like. 1495 01:05:04.769 --> 01:05:08.070 My opinion is okay if she Isn't crazy and she 1496 01:05:08.110 --> 01:05:10.210 murdered her kids In cold blood either kill her or 1497 01:05:10.250 --> 01:05:12.389 she goes to Jail forever if she is crazy then 1498 01:05:12.409 --> 01:05:14.909 you go To a padded room forever like you're Not 1499 01:05:14.929 --> 01:05:17.070 allowed to be in society anymore that's We're done with 1500 01:05:17.090 --> 01:05:20.860 you Although the fact of the case in my opinion 1501 01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:22.780 And this is where there maybe there is some nuance 1502 01:05:22.800 --> 01:05:25.739 Where you can argue about it um I think she 1503 01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:28.659 did premeditate this. You could see it, yeah. 1504 01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:29.860 Yeah. 1505 01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:33.559 I think she knew what she was doing. But the 1506 01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:37.460 reaction from the group of people who were supporting her 1507 01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:43.369 was so far beyond that to absurd lengths. It shocked me. 1508 01:05:43.389 --> 01:05:44.610 I don't even know how to describe it. 1509 01:05:46.650 --> 01:05:49.690 And it is weird too, right? Because we have been 1510 01:05:49.949 --> 01:05:52.440 so used to, I think, you can say since 2015, 1511 01:05:52.429 --> 01:05:55.989 for the past 10, 11 years, to the political divide, right? 1512 01:05:56.469 --> 01:06:00.429 It's very been hard right, hard left divide. There's very 1513 01:06:00.489 --> 01:06:04.610 little to talk about in the middle type of thing. Conservatives, 1514 01:06:04.690 --> 01:06:07.179 one side, liberals, others, then libertarians, you guys kind of 1515 01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:09.679 floating in the middle somewhere, arguing with both of us, 1516 01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:12.059 which is what you guys, libertarians, do in a lot 1517 01:06:12.219 --> 01:06:17.550 of political stuff. But This was so bizarre in the 1518 01:06:17.610 --> 01:06:21.369 sense of– like I said, there has been some conservative 1519 01:06:21.409 --> 01:06:24.510 women that I generally agree with that are trying to 1520 01:06:24.650 --> 01:06:28.190 fight and argue with everyone about how– some of them 1521 01:06:28.230 --> 01:06:30.159 are just

saying, no, she needs to walk because of 1522 01:06:30.199 --> 01:06:31.420 certain things. It's like, you guys are out of your 1523 01:06:31.539 --> 01:06:36.250 fucking mind. Like– In the end, she killed three people 1524 01:06:36.789 --> 01:06:39.210 and no one is in their right mind to be 1525 01:06:39.429 --> 01:06:42.300 killing people the way she did. Either she, like you said, 1526 01:06:42.340 --> 01:06:44.460 she's insane and needs to go away forever or she 1527 01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:47.500 needs to go to jail forever. And people are like, well, 1528 01:06:47.539 --> 01:06:49.469 she's not equipped for jail. I don't give a fuck. 1529 01:06:50.579 --> 01:06:53.519 Her kids weren't equipped to be strangled either. And they were. 1530 01:06:53.980 --> 01:06:57.099 So I feel no sympathy if she's equipped for jail 1531 01:06:57.619 --> 01:07:01.420 or not. That is not my prerogative. My prerogative is 1532 01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:02.960 to figure out where is the best place to put 1533 01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:05.800 her to separate her from the rest of us. And 1534 01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:06.800 that's it. 1535 01:07:07.650 --> 01:07:09.750 Let me ask you guys something because I've been thinking 1536 01:07:09.789 --> 01:07:11.929 about this and I'm not sure how to phrase it, 1537 01:07:11.989 --> 01:07:17.769 but this thing happened with women specifically. And I think 1538 01:07:17.809 --> 01:07:19.650 that some of the things that we love about women 1539 01:07:19.670 --> 01:07:22.719 and how they're maybe much more emotionally in touch with 1540 01:07:22.780 --> 01:07:26.210 what's going on. They might probably have more compassion. I 1541 01:07:26.269 --> 01:07:30.449 feel like the media in particular and politicians in particular 1542 01:07:31.130 --> 01:07:34.989 prey on these natural traits that women exhibit more than men. 1543 01:07:35.530 --> 01:07:38.230 And in a way, almost try to manipulate them. 1544 01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:38.719 As a group. 1545 01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:41.199 And I don't know if this has something to do 1546 01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:44.719 with like maybe biologically where because women are not as 1547 01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:47.440 physically big and strong as men, maybe there's more impetus 1548 01:07:47.460 --> 01:07:49.989 to like want to be in a group and kind 1549 01:07:50.010 --> 01:07:52.210 of agree with other people for your own safety. And like, 1550 01:07:52.230 --> 01:07:55.000 I don't know if that's like some kind of, so, so, 1551 01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:57.659 so if you look at it from that side, it 1552 01:07:57.679 --> 01:08:00.840 almost makes me angry that like, like, did we create this? Like, 1553 01:08:01.949 --> 01:08:04.880 I don't know. I'm not, maybe my phrase. 1554 01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:08.980 So Jordan Peterson brings this up, um, that women tend 1555 01:08:09.019 --> 01:08:10.860 to be much more agreeable and men tend to be 1556 01:08:10.900 --> 01:08:13.760 much more disagreeable by and

large. And that is why, um, 1557 01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:17.130 you know, he brought up a lot where women and 1558 01:08:17.149 --> 01:08:20.069 men in the workplace, uh, they go for the same 1559 01:08:20.109 --> 01:08:23.390 exact position. A woman will walk typically into a room 1560 01:08:23.409 --> 01:08:25.949 with the boss and take the first offer given to 1561 01:08:25.989 --> 01:08:28.409 them because they want to be agreeable where a man 1562 01:08:28.859 --> 01:08:32.109 will typically walk in there, and understand that they have 1563 01:08:32.149 --> 01:08:35.229 more value, argue for more value, and then land higher 1564 01:08:35.770 --> 01:08:38.750 than that woman in the same position. Because it's by 1565 01:08:38.810 --> 01:08:43.010 our nature that men are more disagreeable than women. And 1566 01:08:43.069 --> 01:08:46.630 like you said, there is something to women wanting to 1567 01:08:46.710 --> 01:08:51.010 be a part of that social movement. Because by nature, 1568 01:08:51.449 --> 01:08:54.569 women are the social ones. Throughout history, they were the 1569 01:08:54.649 --> 01:08:56.090 ones that stayed home as the men went out to 1570 01:08:56.109 --> 01:08:57.649 go hunt and gather and things like that. So they 1571 01:08:57.670 --> 01:09:01.569 built the community. They built the social hierarchy in town. 1572 01:09:02.220 --> 01:09:04.279 So I think there is something to that. Dave, you 1573 01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:05.520 wanted to jump in and say something. 1574 01:09:05.579 --> 01:09:05.779 Go ahead. 1575 01:09:05.859 --> 01:09:08.390 Yeah, I was going to say that, like you said– 1576 01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:13.100 Because the hunter gatherer, all that, just the differences between 1577 01:09:13.180 --> 01:09:15.819 men and women, women are typically the ones that are 1578 01:09:15.859 --> 01:09:17.920 going to enforce the social. 1579 01:09:17.579 --> 01:09:19.819 Standards of the community. That's what they do. 1580 01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:24.720 And like you said, Palm, because they're don't have anywhere 1581 01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:27.300 near the fucking strength that men do, like physically physically. 1582 01:09:27.899 --> 01:09:32.720 The way that their warfare is done is through manipulation, 1583 01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:36.340 through stuff like that, which is, look, I say that 1584 01:09:36.380 --> 01:09:38.420 word and you can have a negative connotation on it, right? 1585 01:09:38.699 --> 01:09:42.409 But there's also positive ways to manipulate. Like when you 1586 01:09:42.470 --> 01:09:45.109 raise a child, you are manipulating them to be a 1587 01:09:45.149 --> 01:09:47.069 better person, right? Like maybe influence, I. 1588 01:09:47.029 --> 01:09:48.289 Don't know, whatever you want. 1589 01:09:48.430 --> 01:09:49.310 Influence, yeah. 1590 01:09:49.350 --> 01:09:53.300 But either way, like, but that's how they do warfare. 1591 01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:56.289 That's how they do those types of things. And- In

1592 01:09:56.409 --> 01:09:58.810 order for you to stay safe, like you said, Pom, 1593 01:09:59.260 --> 01:10:01.800 women will have to be more part of the group 1594 01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:04.520 than if they are outside of it. Because if you're 1595 01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:06.920 outside of it, anything could fucking happen to you. You 1596 01:10:07.020 --> 01:10:10.180 do not have the physical strength to stop whatever could 1597 01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:14.750 possibly happen to you. So all that becomes a consensus game. 1598 01:10:15.289 --> 01:10:18.069 And that consensus game is one of the things that 1599 01:10:19.029 --> 01:10:21.810 really hit hard when it became to feminism and all that, 1600 01:10:22.270 --> 01:10:26.199 because they made that consensus game about being the same 1601 01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:31.100 as men. And it not, not, like having some of 1602 01:10:31.140 --> 01:10:33.600 the things where like men really shut women out, but 1603 01:10:33.699 --> 01:10:36.479 literally kind of doing the same things as men, which 1604 01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:39.119 that's not what women are meant to do. 1605 01:10:39.579 --> 01:10:42.439 Like we're meant to do different things. We're built that 1606 01:10:42.500 --> 01:10:44.159 way differently. 1607 01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:44.729 Yeah. 1608 01:10:44.770 --> 01:10:49.090 Biologically we have these like inner desires to do different things. Exactly. 1609 01:10:49.109 --> 01:10:49.649 Go ahead. 1610 01:10:49.869 --> 01:10:51.550 That's a, that's a great, no, that's a, that's a 1611 01:10:51.590 --> 01:10:54.229 great point. And multiple things can be true at once, right? 1612 01:10:54.250 --> 01:10:57.210 Like there could be a time where feminism was trying 1613 01:10:57.229 --> 01:11:00.640 to address some actual real wrongdoing or where like maybe 1614 01:11:00.659 --> 01:11:02.460 women were being shut out of a certain place. 1615 01:11:02.430 --> 01:11:07.010 Historically says no the people that started feminism first wave 1616 01:11:07.029 --> 01:11:10.250 second wave third wave look at the writings of the 1617 01:11:10.289 --> 01:11:13.529 people that started it they have always been psycho. 1618 01:11:13.090 --> 01:11:15.890 Leftist don't please please please. 1619 01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:20.039 Don't please don't clip me and and i'm just trying 1620 01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:21.960 to give a benefit of the doubt like i'm saying 1621 01:11:22.020 --> 01:11:23.800 even if you want to assume that all that stuff 1622 01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:29.439 started from like well-intended From a good place. There's lots 1623 01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:31.369 of other factors at play, such as what we were 1624 01:11:31.390 --> 01:11:33.930 talking about. And agreeableness is, now that you said that, 1625 01:11:33.970 --> 01:11:37.289 I do remember him talking about some of that. But 1626 01:11:38.189 --> 01:11:41.100 do you guys agree, though, that it seems like that 1627 01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:46.899 factor does get... that's a hot button to press. It's 1628 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:49.000 used by politicians, by media. Well, here's the thing. 1629 01:11:49.050 --> 01:11:52.430 Look at right now, and it's been exposed lately, but 1630 01:11:52.550 --> 01:11:55.189 for the past five, six years, on the right, the 1631 01:11:55.250 --> 01:11:58.279 trad wife movement, right? Most of these chicks that were 1632 01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:01.659 claiming trad were fake, right? But they realized that there 1633 01:12:01.699 --> 01:12:04.100 was something to being in that click, calling yourself a 1634 01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:06.600 trad wife and a trad girl put you in a 1635 01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:09.899 click of other women that were like that. And you 1636 01:12:09.979 --> 01:12:12.060 all believe in the same thing. You were parroting each other. 1637 01:12:12.189 --> 01:12:14.029 And as much as I think Pearl Davis is a 1638 01:12:14.069 --> 01:12:16.010 retard and a lot, she was one of the women 1639 01:12:16.050 --> 01:12:18.109 that called out all these fake trad wives. And she 1640 01:12:18.149 --> 01:12:20.350 was like, and she would call them on their bullshit 1641 01:12:20.409 --> 01:12:23.010 and everything. And. Pearl never claimed to be trad. She 1642 01:12:23.050 --> 01:12:26.630 just hates other women. And he's one of the ones 1643 01:12:26.649 --> 01:12:29.069 that's exposed a ton of this. And it's a lot 1644 01:12:29.109 --> 01:12:31.729 to do with that agreeableness. And then they all turn 1645 01:12:31.789 --> 01:12:34.210 on each other, though. Like, there's always that moment where 1646 01:12:34.770 --> 01:12:37.569 if you feel like your social status is being dropped down, 1647 01:12:37.949 --> 01:12:40.130 that's when they start to really attack each other. It's 1648 01:12:40.350 --> 01:12:44.399 all about social. So you saw that clearly there. 1649 01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:44.840 Yeah. 1650 01:12:44.899 --> 01:12:46.840 And I do want to say, because, you know, it 1651 01:12:47.560 --> 01:12:49.640 isn't all about politics, right? But I don't know if 1652 01:12:49.659 --> 01:12:52.579 he's ever seen the graph, Pom, where it shows like 1653 01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:55.640 the difference of how men and women have moved politically 1654 01:12:55.699 --> 01:12:56.300 and like. 1655 01:12:56.260 --> 01:12:57.859 Throughout the recent time. 1656 01:12:58.229 --> 01:13:00.510 And women just are off a fucking cliff all the 1657 01:13:00.529 --> 01:13:03.189 way to the left. And you see that bear out 1658 01:13:03.250 --> 01:13:06.090 in real life and everywhere else. So you talk to 1659 01:13:06.109 --> 01:13:09.220 especially younger women and, They are more of the left, 1660 01:13:09.260 --> 01:13:12.359 just typically. That's just how it is. And it's a 1661 01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:16.779 cultural zeitgeist, so they always go to that. If you 1662 01:13:16.819 --> 01:13:19.960 go on like normie TikTok or normie Instagram and stuff 1663

01:13:19.979 --> 01:13:21.939 like that, you're going to see– well, maybe not as 1664 01:13:21.979 --> 01:13:22.420 much now. 1665 01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:22.939 I don't know. 1666 01:13:23.380 --> 01:13:26.039 But you're going to see more and more and more 1667 01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:30.050 stuff from the left that– might be further than what 1668 01:13:30.109 --> 01:13:33.670 they even think but because that is what the zeitgeist 1669 01:13:33.689 --> 01:13:36.710 is the zeitgeist is that is what the normal thing 1670 01:13:36.970 --> 01:13:39.489 is a lot of women just buy into it especially 1671 01:13:39.529 --> 01:13:42.409 because you know it just seems like the nice thing 1672 01:13:42.470 --> 01:13:44.449 to do right that just seems like the good thing 1673 01:13:44.510 --> 01:13:48.109 to do so they're they just buy into that and 1674 01:13:48.130 --> 01:13:50.029 they're going to go with that because it's what keeps 1675 01:13:50.069 --> 01:13:52.579 them safe but it also is what gives them a 1676 01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:55.579 form of power especially with a bunch of guys who 1677 01:13:55.659 --> 01:13:59.060 are Especially with a bunch of guys who, let's be honest, 1678 01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:00.779 we have to call out the fucking simps with a 1679 01:14:00.819 --> 01:14:03.460 lot of things because they give that power. 1680 01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:06.899 The actual proper term for guys who are just overly 1681 01:14:06.939 --> 01:14:09.859 agreeable to have sex is actually sneaky fuckers. That is 1682 01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:13.619 actually a medical term of guys that will say and 1683 01:14:13.659 --> 01:14:16.170 do whatever it needs to be in order to get 1684 01:14:16.210 --> 01:14:18.510 a piece. That is what they're called. That's scientific, actually, 1685 01:14:18.529 --> 01:14:21.250 which is great. I love the scientist that quoted sneaky fucker. 1686 01:14:21.590 --> 01:14:25.890 But it's... That's great, by the way. Yeah, it's amazing. 1687 01:14:26.329 --> 01:14:27.930 But it's one of those things too. It's like, Pom, 1688 01:14:27.970 --> 01:14:30.989 you brought up early feminism, right? And the issue with 1689 01:14:31.050 --> 01:14:35.329 feminism in general is– It's not about bridging the gaps 1690 01:14:35.750 --> 01:14:38.899 and maybe at certain points it was, right? With some things. 1691 01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:41.640 But for the most part, it was always about pushing 1692 01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:44.300 into the white collar jobs that men have had. It 1693 01:14:44.340 --> 01:14:47.479 has never been about pushing into blue collar jobs. It's 1694 01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:50.069 always been about protecting the jobs that women already had 1695 01:14:50.149 --> 01:14:53.430 in terms of being teachers, being in an office, doing 1696 01:14:53.550 --> 01:14:56.630 certain things that still to this day are generally exclusively 1697 01:14:56.689 --> 01:15:00.189 women for the most part, right? but also pushing in. 1698 01:15:00.409 --> 01:15:02.609 You never hear them talking about going to become a 1699 01:15:02.630 --> 01:15:05.850 frigging sewer guy or going to work in an oil rig. No, it's, 1700 01:15:05.869 --> 01:15:08.319 they want to be in a boardroom. They want to be, 1701 01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:10.920 you know, doing, you know, being heads of colleges. They 1702 01:15:10.939 --> 01:15:13.699 want to be doctors and surgeons. They want to only 1703 01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:17.670 break into the white collar spaces. When they, as we've 1704 01:15:17.710 --> 01:15:20.770 all said here, women have always had a ton of influence, right? 1705 01:15:21.180 --> 01:15:25.319 You don't think the married men at the constitutional convention 1706 01:15:25.659 --> 01:15:28.819 weren't taking a shit ton of advice from the women 1707 01:15:28.859 --> 01:15:30.500 every time they walked home and told them about their day. 1708 01:15:31.060 --> 01:15:32.659 You don't think that they had made, we hear about 1709 01:15:32.779 --> 01:15:35.659 Abigail Adams all the time and how much influence she 1710 01:15:35.699 --> 01:15:39.029 had on John Adams. You don't think that all the wives, girlfriends, 1711 01:15:39.090 --> 01:15:43.010 fiancees of that time were sitting there and saying things, Palm, 1712 01:15:43.050 --> 01:15:46.010 you're a married man. There are times when you're, you know, 1713 01:15:46.750 --> 01:15:49.229 men are retarded and we'll say things to our wives 1714 01:15:49.260 --> 01:15:50.659 that we think is rational. And all of a sudden 1715 01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:52.899 they'll turn around and like, what is wrong with you? 1716 01:15:53.260 --> 01:15:54.289 And then they'll give you an X, Y, and Z. 1717 01:15:54.300 --> 01:15:56.340 And it's like, you know what? I kind of never 1718 01:15:56.359 --> 01:15:57.359 thought of it that way. Yeah. 1719 01:15:57.590 --> 01:15:57.789 Right. 1720 01:15:57.810 --> 01:16:00.989 Like we all get those moments and that's where women 1721 01:16:01.010 --> 01:16:04.810 have always had major influence. Women have always had a 1722 01:16:05.189 --> 01:16:09.520 fuck ton of power historically period. So it's, it's just 1723 01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:13.800 wild that their only goal right now isn't to further women. 1724 01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.720 It's to try and become more like men. And I 1725 01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:19.079 think that's the biggest problem with right now. It's not 1726 01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:21.899 to be more feminine and bring out their things. It's 1727 01:16:22.270 --> 01:16:24.270 how can we do more things that the men do? 1728 01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:27.020 And it's never going to work that way. It doesn't work. 1729 01:16:27.979 --> 01:16:30.420 Kind of funny. I'm just picturing the founding father wags, 1730 01:16:30.500 --> 01:16:32.520 like all the wives and girlfriends hanging out together. 1731 01:16:32.699 --> 01:16:35.760 I think they did actually. I think they actually did. 1732 01:16:35.800 -->

01:16:36.699 Was that a thing? 1733 01:16:36.779 --> 01:16:41.039 Clubs, yes. I know the Congress did, the early Congress. 1734 01:16:41.060 --> 01:16:42.819 The wives had clubs in early Congress. 1735 01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:45.979 I love that. But to your point, I mean, I 1736 01:16:48.060 --> 01:16:51.399 think women have an incredible amount of influence, particularly within 1737 01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:54.140 their household, right? Um, and, and like you said, as 1738 01:16:54.180 --> 01:16:55.539 they should, cause a lot of guys, a lot of 1739 01:16:55.579 --> 01:16:56.960 times guys are fucking retards. 1740 01:16:57.180 --> 01:16:59.500 We get so fixated on one thing and we need 1741 01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:01.680 to be corrected, right? We get fixated. This is the 1742 01:17:01.720 --> 01:17:03.560 way I do it. This is the way it's going 1743 01:17:03.579 --> 01:17:06.159 to get done. And then sometimes your wife just is like, 1744 01:17:06.180 --> 01:17:08.060 have you ever thought of doing it this way? And 1745 01:17:08.100 --> 01:17:12.550 it's like, no, but maybe I should, right? Like it happens. It's, 1746 01:17:12.689 --> 01:17:14.189 and it happens often because we're retarded. 1747 01:17:15.310 --> 01:17:17.710 Yeah. I just think there's, there's a lot of issues 1748 01:17:17.850 --> 01:17:20.270 outside of the Lindsay Clancy thing. Like, and, and, and 1749 01:17:20.449 --> 01:17:21.649 I don't even know if you guys agree with me, 1750 01:17:21.670 --> 01:17:26.550 but like, for you to support like a full term abortion, 1751 01:17:27.189 --> 01:17:28.689 you know, it's like, it's almost like you get to 1752 01:17:28.729 --> 01:17:31.289 this point where sometimes women will look left and right 1753 01:17:31.310 --> 01:17:32.989 and be like, we're like, we're for this. 1754 01:17:33.060 --> 01:17:34.420 Right. Like, yeah. Yeah. 1755 01:17:34.460 --> 01:17:36.300 Like, and then they're like, okay, we're in on this. 1756 01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:39.560 And it's almost like, uh, they just don't stop and 1757 01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:41.760 ever ask themselves. And by the way, I'm not talking 1758 01:17:41.779 --> 01:17:44.000 about all women. I'm talking about specific. 1759 01:17:44.020 --> 01:17:46.460 You're talking about a, a, a large swap in a 1760 01:17:46.500 --> 01:17:49.689 percentage that could be considered a plurality, right? Like that's 1761 01:17:49.710 --> 01:17:51.630 what we're really talking about. Like a plurality of women. 1762 01:17:52.409 --> 01:17:54.930 Yeah, especially like within progressive politics. And it's like, I 1763 01:17:54.970 --> 01:17:57.720 don't think they ever stop and actually think like, what 1764 01:17:57.739 --> 01:18:01.640 do I objectively believe about this thing myself without any 1765 01:18:01.739 --> 01:18:04.600 outside influence? I feel like sometimes that gets lost a 1766 01:18:04.619 --> 01:18:08.329 little bit. And then you end up with 200 women 1767 01:18:08.369 --> 01:18:12.859 outside of Lindsay Clancy trial fucking giving hearts like. So 1768 01:18:12.899 --> 01:18:14.789 I don't know where that leaves us, but it's like 1769 01:18:14.890 --> 01:18:17.010 it's almost like depressing in a sense. 1770 01:18:17.470 --> 01:18:20.449 Yeah. And I think it's really interesting. And we're going 1771 01:18:20.489 --> 01:18:22.300 to go into this. And if people watch this, they'll 1772 01:18:22.310 --> 01:18:24.399 probably argue a whole bunch of it, which is fine. 1773 01:18:24.460 --> 01:18:25.039 I'm fine with that. 1774 01:18:25.380 --> 01:18:27.319 But because, you know, I've listened to a couple of 1775 01:18:27.340 --> 01:18:29.579 things about this. And Alex, you know, I listen to 1776 01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:31.449 Sargon a good bit. And he actually had the thing 1777 01:18:31.489 --> 01:18:34.829 on the Lotus Eaters. um where they're they're doing this 1778 01:18:34.890 --> 01:18:37.310 little thing and they were watching you know they're watching 1779 01:18:37.350 --> 01:18:40.000 some tiktoks but it's from women and it was a 1780 01:18:40.060 --> 01:18:42.939 trend about talking about like their prefrontal lobe coming in 1781 01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:45.739 and when they're when they hit 25 their prefrontal lobe 1782 01:18:45.770 --> 01:18:47.909 develops and now all of a sudden they don't want 1783 01:18:47.930 --> 01:18:49.789 to dress slutty anymore and stuff like that and there's 1784 01:18:49.829 --> 01:18:51.560 a whole bunch of TikTok videos like that with a 1785 01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:53.689 whole bunch of people watching them. And one of the 1786 01:18:53.770 --> 01:18:57.000 interesting points was, I think, has some truth to it 1787 01:18:57.300 --> 01:18:59.699 is it seems like especially when you look at the 1788 01:18:59.739 --> 01:19:03.539 way women talk about the Lindsay Clancy case, some women 1789 01:19:03.579 --> 01:19:06.220 talk about the Lindsay Clancy case is a lot of 1790 01:19:06.460 --> 01:19:11.989 life seems to happen to women. While with men, like 1791 01:19:12.109 --> 01:19:14.989 it doesn't have like we feel like we're doing our thing. 1792 01:19:15.050 --> 01:19:15.229 Right. 1793 01:19:15.569 --> 01:19:19.550 Like we don't feel necessarily out of control out of things. 1794 01:19:19.949 --> 01:19:21.590 Like if we fuck up, we fuck up. 1795 01:19:21.670 --> 01:19:24.840 Right. When but when you listen to how some women talk, 1796 01:19:24.899 --> 01:19:27.239 especially like I said, especially with the Lindsay Clancy stuff. 1797 01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:29.720 And if you look at those TikToks, it's like life 1798 01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:33.340 is happening to them and they don't have that much 1799 01:19:33.420 --> 01:19:37.960 control over it. And especially with those prefrontal lobe TikToks 1800 01:19:38.020 --> 01:19:40.600 and stuff like that, like once they hit 25, all 1801 01:19:40.619 --> 01:19:43.029 of a sudden they realize something. It's like, oh, my 1802 01:19:43.090 -->

01:19:45.289 body all of a sudden is telling me to do this. 1803 01:19:46.359 --> 01:19:49.329 and you know, we're, we're three guys. We can't necessarily 1804 01:19:49.390 --> 01:19:50.789 understand that feeling. 1805 01:19:51.050 --> 01:19:51.229 No. 1806 01:19:51.630 --> 01:19:51.789 Yeah. 1807 01:19:51.810 --> 01:19:53.350 And I don't think the prefrontal lobe thing is true, 1808 01:19:53.609 --> 01:19:55.770 but I'm just saying, but even just the feeling of, 1809 01:19:55.810 --> 01:19:57.270 you know, once a month having. 1810 01:19:57.069 --> 01:19:59.609 Your biological clock, I think is a real thing though. 1811 01:19:59.630 --> 01:20:02.609 Yeah. Well, I'm just saying the prefrontal lobe thing. 1812 01:20:02.649 --> 01:20:02.970 Yeah. 1813 01:20:03.229 --> 01:20:08.319 But other things that happen to women is obviously a thing, right? 1814 01:20:08.340 --> 01:20:10.699 You know, periods and all that type of stuff. So it's, 1815 01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:14.640 it's a very different way of feeling things. And it's an, 1816 01:20:15.020 --> 01:20:19.060 It's an interesting thing when you see, because there has 1817 01:20:19.079 --> 01:20:20.659 been a bunch of feminists on the side of Winston 1818 01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:24.819 Clancy arguing basically that because of our hormones, we can't 1819 01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:28.300 be trusted to do some certain things. When it's just like, okay, 1820 01:20:28.579 --> 01:20:31.000 that was the argument for why you weren't really allowed 1821 01:20:31.060 --> 01:20:34.350 in power in the first place was because of your hormones, 1822 01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:36.789 you could fuck something up and then you won't take 1823 01:20:36.829 --> 01:20:37.850 accountability for it. 1824 01:20:38.170 --> 01:20:40.350 So it's really interesting. 1825 01:20:40.369 --> 01:20:40.630 And like. 1826 01:20:42.010 --> 01:20:43.670 Whenever you say these types of things and you try 1827 01:20:43.689 --> 01:20:45.869 to have these discussions, it always happens. 1828 01:20:45.890 --> 01:20:46.630 You can't be nuanced. 1829 01:20:46.649 --> 01:20:49.090 You just get attacked. Dude, we could roast men next 1830 01:20:49.130 --> 01:20:51.350 just the same. No, no, no. I'm just saying. 1831 01:20:51.369 --> 01:20:52.010 No, fuck that. 1832 01:20:52.029 --> 01:20:52.630 Men are perfect. 1833 01:20:52.770 --> 01:20:53.789 No, I'm just saying. 1834 01:20:53.850 --> 01:20:55.060 Even woman haters are coming back. 1835 01:20:55.069 --> 01:20:57.119 You say these types of things and some people might 1836 01:20:57.140 --> 01:20:59.800 think it sounds like degrading or whatever like that. But no, 1837 01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:03.479 it's trying to understand how people or how the different 1838 01:21:03.500 --> 01:21:07.300 sexes go through life. and the best way for them 1839 01:21:07.359 --> 01:21:09.859 to go through life because like you know some people 1840 01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:12.470 kind of go off this happiness index when that's not 1841 01:21:12.590 --> 01:21:15.510 it because you can't be happy all the time chasing 1842 01:21:15.550 --> 01:21:20.010 happiness isn't what it is so it's like no i 1843 01:21:20.029 --> 01:21:21.890 feel like a lot of times we go into these 1844 01:21:21.930 --> 01:21:24.979 conversations and it's not trying to be degrading to women 1845 01:21:25.109 --> 01:21:27.239 or men it's just trying to figure this shit. 1846 01:21:27.119 --> 01:21:30.119 Out yeah that's kind of what guys like to do 1847 01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:32.619 too right we like to figure shit out yeah yeah. 1848 01:21:33.329 --> 01:21:34.850 I was going to say, one of the things I hope, 1849 01:21:35.329 --> 01:21:37.689 just to put a button on that, is when my 1850 01:21:37.729 --> 01:21:39.050 daughters grow up, I have two girls. 1851 01:21:39.590 --> 01:21:39.970 So do I. 1852 01:21:40.430 --> 01:21:40.970 If you could. 1853 01:21:40.909 --> 01:21:44.680 Please just be unapologetically yourself and just don't go with 1854 01:21:44.689 --> 01:21:46.899 the crowd. Maybe that's what you think. Maybe it's not. 1855 01:21:46.909 --> 01:21:49.300 But actually really think about, what do I think about 1856 01:21:49.340 --> 01:21:51.920 the world and life? And that's why my wife is 1857 01:21:51.939 --> 01:21:54.000 so cool. She's been doing it more work. She's been 1858 01:21:54.039 --> 01:21:56.100 putting herself out there and actually sharing what she thinks 1859 01:21:56.159 --> 01:22:00.050 about stuff. And I think maybe... Most people, but maybe 1860 01:22:00.069 --> 01:22:02.170 women more than men kind of are worried about like, 1861 01:22:02.210 --> 01:22:04.010 if I say this, like what's someone going to think 1862 01:22:04.069 --> 01:22:06.329 about me or judge me about something. And it's like, 1863 01:22:06.789 --> 01:22:10.180 who gives a fuck? It's like an unbelievably, um, and 1864 01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:12.479 I don't, this didn't happen to me until my thirties 1865 01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:15.760 where like, it's a very freeing feeling when you are 1866 01:22:15.819 --> 01:22:19.560 unapologetically yourself and you just have your, you, you, you 1867 01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:23.020 actually feel confident about this is what I think about this. 1868 01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:25.939 This is not a manufactured opinion. This wasn't implanted in 1869 01:22:25.970 --> 01:22:28.550 my head by politicians, media, my best friend, whoever, um, 1870 01:22:29.130 --> 01:22:31.029 And when you go through life that way, it's, it's, 1871 01:22:31.670 --> 01:22:34.010 it's way, way, way better for you for your own 1872 01:22:34.050 --> 01:22:35.590 mental health. And I think it gives you a way 1873 01:22:35.609 --> 01:22:38.970 better perspective on the world because David, you were saying 1874 01:22:39.010 --> 01:22:40.989 that a lot of women feel like life happens to them. 1875 01:22:41.109 --> 01:22:43.289 And I think they're searching really for like some sense 1876

01:22:43.310 --> 01:22:46.810 of control and they could team up with other people 1877 01:22:46.850 --> 01:22:48.479 and be like, Hey, this is our thing that we 1878 01:22:48.520 --> 01:22:51.000 care about. Maybe they don't even give a shit about 1879 01:22:51.039 --> 01:22:53.520 that innately, but it's like a team to be on. 1880 01:22:53.899 --> 01:22:56.640 And sometimes it just gets you in, in, in the 1881 01:22:56.659 --> 01:22:59.260 wrong way because it's, it's, You end up you end 1882 01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:00.800 up outside the fucking prison doing this. 1883 01:23:01.140 --> 01:23:01.500 Yeah. 1884 01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:02.819 Yeah. 1885 01:23:02.979 --> 01:23:05.770 And like you said, the team up and one of 1886 01:23:05.810 --> 01:23:08.729 the things that they do control is the social hierarchy there. 1887 01:23:08.770 --> 01:23:08.949 Right. 1888 01:23:09.390 --> 01:23:12.829 Through through certain actions and certain things like women typically 1889 01:23:12.869 --> 01:23:16.109 control the social hierarchy through the way they form the 1890 01:23:16.149 --> 01:23:19.869 group and whoever's yapping about what. And men form their 1891 01:23:19.909 --> 01:23:23.220 hierarchy through competition. Whoever's going to beat the other one. 1892 01:23:23.579 --> 01:23:26.819 Whether physically or in other types of ways, that's how 1893 01:23:26.859 --> 01:23:29.640 we do it. We don't do it through the social 1894 01:23:29.699 --> 01:23:32.539 cohesion of it. We do it through straight up competition. 1895 01:23:33.220 --> 01:23:35.260 And we've talked about on the show before and Palm, 1896 01:23:35.300 --> 01:23:38.020 you'll agree. Every time you walk into a room, especially 1897 01:23:38.060 --> 01:23:39.819 with guys you don't know, you look at them. And 1898 01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:41.819 the first thing you think is, can I kick their ass? 1899 01:23:42.079 --> 01:23:44.329 First thing, it's just any, can I fuck them up? 1900 01:23:44.479 --> 01:23:46.479 And that's how you kind of put yourself in the hierarchy, right? 1901 01:23:46.699 --> 01:23:48.229 Because you see one guy and you look and you go. 1902 01:23:49.189 --> 01:23:52.369 You're probably not that guy. Like probably– like I'll fight him. 1903 01:23:52.430 --> 01:23:53.390 It might not go too well. 1904 01:23:53.750 --> 01:23:56.250 It goes right to our greetings as guys, right? When 1905 01:23:56.289 --> 01:23:58.909 you shake hands with someone, you don't want to have 1906 01:23:58.949 --> 01:24:03.149 a limp-wristed handshake, right? It shows something about your character 1907 01:24:03.189 --> 01:24:04.939 if you don't have a firm handshake. 1908 01:24:04.949 --> 01:24:06.340 Well, here's the thing too. It's like the type of 1909 01:24:06.350 --> 01:24:08.779 head nod, right? Like there's the two different– you learn 1910 01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:10.640 the type of head nod. Like the downward head is 1911 01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:12.779 kind of like the– you know, like the

kind of 1912 01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:15.880 like a little more like honorific. And the upward is 1913 01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:18.659 a little less formal, right? Like you understand that you're 1914 01:24:18.699 --> 01:24:20.399 dealing with an older man. You're not going to do this. 1915 01:24:20.439 --> 01:24:22.800 He might hit you, right? Like don't fucking do that 1916 01:24:22.819 --> 01:24:24.300 to me. I'm not your friend. You give it a 1917 01:24:24.340 --> 01:24:26.350 little downward one and he get it back. Like it's 1918 01:24:26.369 --> 01:24:28.930 just an innate thing that guys do. I don't see 1919 01:24:29.010 --> 01:24:31.289 women doing the head nod. It's just you sometimes just– 1920 01:24:31.550 --> 01:24:34.250 you don't know the guy from Tom, Dick, or Harry. 1921 01:24:34.270 --> 01:24:36.189 You just see him. You make eye contact. Pull a 1922 01:24:36.189 --> 01:24:38.109 little one of these. You keep him moving. It's just 1923 01:24:38.130 --> 01:24:39.029 a little respect thing. 1924 01:24:40.060 --> 01:24:42.560 And I don't even think I have an inner monologue 1925 01:24:42.590 --> 01:24:44.550 with myself about could I kick that guy's ass. It's 1926 01:24:44.569 --> 01:24:47.149 like your reptile brain is calculating that in the background. 1927 01:24:47.189 --> 01:24:49.510 Yeah. And the points of exit too, right? Like you 1928 01:24:49.529 --> 01:24:51.909 always get into somewhere, especially if you're somewhere new. 1929 01:24:52.430 --> 01:24:53.170 Shit, it's the fan. 1930 01:24:53.390 --> 01:24:54.829 How do I get my family out of here safely? 1931 01:24:54.970 --> 01:24:56.760 Or how do I get out of here if I'm alone, right? 1932 01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:00.340 It's just you don't– again, you don't think about it. 1933 01:25:00.779 --> 01:25:04.600 It's just automatically something you do. And I've heard– even 1934 01:25:04.859 --> 01:25:06.520 my wife says, she's like, I sure as fuck don't 1935 01:25:06.539 --> 01:25:09.340 think about it because I know you are. I know 1936 01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:13.890 that you're already game planning things. I went tonight to– 1937 01:25:14.350 --> 01:25:16.289 we have our curriculum night for my daughters over in 1938 01:25:16.329 --> 01:25:19.149 elementary school, my older one. And we went there and 1939 01:25:19.170 --> 01:25:21.449 I've been in this building before many a times. So 1940 01:25:21.510 --> 01:25:24.029 I know everything. But as I'm walking in, it's just 1941 01:25:24.069 --> 01:25:26.449 looking around and it's like, okay, exit, exit, exit. And 1942 01:25:26.489 --> 01:25:28.409 it's like things thinking in my head too because now 1943 01:25:28.489 --> 01:25:31.569 I'm working in a school and now it's realistic of, okay. Okay. 1944 01:25:32.550 --> 01:25:35.850 Shooter happens in a school. What do I do? You know, 1945 01:25:35.890 --> 01:25:38.229 generally when you work in a school, especially in like 1946 01:25:38.350 --> 01:25:42.020 a younger setting, you're surrounded by mostly women. What am 1947 01:25:42.060 --> 01:25:44.140 I going to do in this situation? How am I 1948 01:25:44.199 --> 01:25:46.420 going to save as many lives as possible? Because that's 1949 01:25:46.439 --> 01:25:46.739 the goal. 1950 01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:47.279 Yeah. 1951 01:25:47.380 --> 01:25:49.640 So it's like, especially as a guy, if you have 1952 01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:50.300 a family. 1953 01:25:51.220 --> 01:25:54.100 It's basically the responsibility of like first one to get in, 1954 01:25:54.140 --> 01:25:56.720 last one to get out, right? Like you're the first one, 1955 01:25:56.840 --> 01:25:59.039 so you want to make sure everything's good. But if 1956 01:25:59.100 --> 01:26:01.840 anything does happen, you're the last. They're the ones that 1957 01:26:01.859 --> 01:26:04.149 are important. You're the last one out. You have to 1958 01:26:04.189 --> 01:26:04.689 protect that. 1959 01:26:05.100 --> 01:26:08.149 Every time. Every time. Caveatai is coming in saying, I 1960 01:26:08.170 --> 01:26:10.289 don't have that dialogue. I know I can kick anyone's 1961 01:26:10.369 --> 01:26:13.010 butt in the room. I like that confidence. 1962 01:26:13.149 --> 01:26:16.859 Yeah. Have you guys seen the reel? It's like the 1963 01:26:16.899 --> 01:26:18.720 dude and the chick are walking in the mall or 1964 01:26:18.739 --> 01:26:22.199 somewhere and the dude's inner monologue is Jason Bourne and 1965 01:26:22.229 --> 01:26:24.970 then the chick's dialogue is like, making my way downtown. 1966 01:26:25.010 --> 01:26:27.510 How true is that? How true is that? 1967 01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:30.520 Every guy is like dark fantasy is shit to go 1968 01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:32.439 down and go in and save the day. Now, listen, 1969 01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:34.359 most people just crouch like a pussy too because you 1970 01:26:34.380 --> 01:26:36.949 all just want to self-preserve. But it's everyone's like thing 1971 01:26:36.989 --> 01:26:38.909 is like, man, if that happened, I would go and 1972 01:26:38.930 --> 01:26:42.310 do this. And it's like probably wouldn't, but I like 1973 01:26:42.329 --> 01:26:44.489 to think I would. But I'm going to shift here 1974 01:26:44.930 --> 01:26:48.229 because we could talk about women in a certain way. 1975 01:26:48.430 --> 01:26:51.850 But then there's some women that just get it, understand 1976 01:26:51.869 --> 01:26:56.789 what guys want. And that woman– It's Sydney Sweeney. And 1977 01:26:57.130 --> 01:27:00.649 here is her ad that is driving everyone, every woman 1978 01:27:00.689 --> 01:27:03.189 that's not as good looking, all the ugly ones crazy. 1979 01:27:03.470 --> 01:27:05.010 That's all. The only ones that matter are ugly. So 1980 01:27:05.029 --> 01:27:05.369 let's go. 1981 01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:25.930 Mom, is this your first time seeing this? I saw 1982 01:27:26.119 --> 01:27:33.810 it today. I already signed up. This sport too. 1983 01:27:35.229 --> 01:27:35.630 Or this.

1984 01:27:37.310 --> 01:27:44.029 Sports, sports, sports, sports, sports, sports, sports, sports. You can't 1985 01:27:44.050 --> 01:27:44.510 trade this. 1986 01:27:45.090 --> 01:27:45.789 I just look in here. 1987 01:27:46.989 --> 01:27:50.220 No betting on wars or deaths and no politics. 1988 01:27:52.739 --> 01:27:53.159 Just you. 1989 01:27:53.880 --> 01:28:01.199 Your takes on sports. The craziest part to me about 1990 01:28:01.279 --> 01:28:04.699 Sydney Sweeney is if you want to see her boobs, 1991 01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:09.060 you can. They're everywhere. She's done Euphoria. She's naked 95% 1992 01:28:09.060 --> 01:28:13.739 of that show. And it's rare that, you know, most 1993 01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:16.060 of the time half the secret of really like hot 1994 01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:18.500 women is that you don't know what they look like naked, right? 1995 01:28:18.970 --> 01:28:20.609 And then sometimes when you see it in like a 1996 01:28:20.630 --> 01:28:22.710 movie or something, it's like that allure goes away. They're 1997 01:28:22.770 --> 01:28:25.270 not as– they're still smoke shows, but I don't care anymore. 1998 01:28:25.609 --> 01:28:27.800 Sydney Sweeney somehow, you've seen her naked before and it's 1999 01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:31.979 like you see that and it's like, okay, still in, right? 2000 01:28:32.060 --> 01:28:35.050 It's like she just has that about her and now 2001 01:28:35.350 --> 01:28:39.390 there's a huge backlash. A bunch of female athletes coming 2002 01:28:39.510 --> 01:28:42.869 out and like that's not sports. That's just sexualizing it, blah. 2003 01:28:42.899 --> 01:28:43.229 Blah, blah. 2004 01:28:43.979 --> 01:28:46.819 Bitch, it's an ad. Ads are meant to get people 2005 01:28:47.180 --> 01:28:51.479 to buy things. And generally, that brand, Novig or whatever 2006 01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:53.899 the hell their name is, I don't really sports bet. 2007 01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:58.399 They understand who is betting. 99.9% of people that bet 2008 01:28:58.420 --> 01:29:04.000 are men. And you put Sini Sweeney out there, generally naked, 2009 01:29:05.100 --> 01:29:08.310 men are going to want to sign up. Pom, do 2010 01:29:08.350 --> 01:29:11.630 you have an issue with that ad at all? And 2011 01:29:11.670 --> 01:29:12.920 have you seen the backlash of it? 2012 01:29:14.029 --> 01:29:19.289 Yeah, it's honestly ridiculous. Women's biggest enemies are other women. 2013 01:29:19.750 --> 01:29:22.550 I think we all know that. It's actually really sad 2014 01:29:22.569 --> 01:29:25.430 to see. How could you even make the argument this 2015 01:29:25.489 --> 01:29:27.750 sets women athletes back or something? What does she have 2016 01:29:27.770 --> 01:29:28.869 to do with women athletes? 2017 01:29:28.909 --> 01:29:29.890 She's not a candidate. 2018 01:29:29.909 --> 01:29:33.470 She's an actress. On one hand, they talk about women 2019 01:29:33.510 --> 01:29:38.069 empowerment and justify OnlyFans models that way because it's your body. 2020 01:29:38.090 --> 01:29:39.409 You should be able to do what you want with it. 2021 01:29:39.930 --> 01:29:42.109 But then on the other hand, because she's a smoke 2022 01:29:42.140 --> 01:29:46.220 show blonde white chick, apparently that's not okay. I don't know. 2023 01:29:46.300 --> 01:29:49.510 So Um, it's all just a bunch of bullshit. They're 2024 01:29:49.529 --> 01:29:52.189 mad that she's super hot and has big cans and 2025 01:29:52.270 --> 01:29:55.229 is selling sports betting to guys like overtly. And it's 2026 01:29:55.250 --> 01:29:57.850 like a corny ad because we all know what it is, right? 2027 01:29:57.890 --> 01:30:01.630 Like their target market is us, you know? And we 2028 01:30:01.649 --> 01:30:05.210 just watched it. So it's like, it works. And, uh, it's, 2029 01:30:05.270 --> 01:30:07.489 it's women hating on other women. It's really, it's really 2030 01:30:07.529 --> 01:30:08.130 annoying to see. 2031 01:30:08.529 --> 01:30:11.430 But it's also, it's like, where were they saying that 2032 01:30:11.489 --> 01:30:13.729 sports were set back when David Beckham, when is it 2033 01:30:13.810 --> 01:30:16.159 was in his underwear and ripped his house selling cologne? 2034 01:30:16.539 --> 01:30:20.399 How did that not set men's sports back decades and 2035 01:30:20.439 --> 01:30:24.079 generations because he's only selling sex to other women? It's 2036 01:30:24.100 --> 01:30:27.260 like the double standard is ridiculous, number one. 2037 01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:29.039 Wait, wait. By the way, it's like if you look 2038 01:30:29.079 --> 01:30:32.180 at the outfits that a gymnast wears, look at the 2039 01:30:32.220 --> 01:30:36.380 men's outfits versus a woman's outfits or a woman track 2040 01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:39.640 and field athlete. You don't have to have your thing 2041 01:30:39.699 --> 01:30:42.050 going up your butt. That's a choice that they chose 2042 01:30:42.100 --> 01:30:45.539 to make. And I'm not saying that that makes them– 2043 01:30:46.090 --> 01:30:48.529 overtly sexual in any way i'm just saying it's like 2044 01:30:49.569 --> 01:30:52.140 you didn't have to wear that so the idea that 2045 01:30:52.300 --> 01:30:54.979 this is somehow offensive it's just it's it's women hating 2046 01:30:55.060 --> 01:30:55.979 on her it's. 2047 01:30:56.479 --> 01:31:00.939 Yeah, and weirdly enough, I do think because ever since 2048 01:31:01.489 --> 01:31:04.470 the jeans ad that she did, the Calvin Klein jeans ad, 2049 01:31:04.970 --> 01:31:05.869 that and. 2050 01:31:06.109 --> 01:31:07.350 American Eagle. It was American Eagle. 2051 01:31:07.369 --> 01:31:08.289 American Eagle. 2052 01:31:08.310 --> 01:31:10.430 And that whole birthday party she had for her mom 2053 01:31:10.449 --> 01:31:11.810 because I don't know if you remember when that was 2054 01:31:11.869 --> 01:31:12.489 a thing that– That. 2055 01:31:12.430 --> 01:31:14.380 They were wearing– I think someone was wearing a MAGA 2056

01:31:14.409 --> 01:31:15.760 hat at the birthday party. 2057 01:31:16.060 --> 01:31:19.680 So a whole section of the internet fully believes that 2058 01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:22.520 she's like a full-on Republican and all that. So that 2059 01:31:22.840 --> 01:31:25.479 adds on to it. Anything she's going to do, people 2060 01:31:25.520 --> 01:31:26.319 are going to hate her for. 2061 01:31:26.380 --> 01:31:28.930 I think that's the undertone among all this is that 2062 01:31:28.970 --> 01:31:30.510 they think she's like a closet Republican. 2063 01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:32.609 Well, you look at that because Sadie Sink just did 2064 01:31:32.649 --> 01:31:34.789 her ad for Calvin Klein where Sadie Sink is basically 2065 01:31:34.829 --> 01:31:38.149 naked in the Calvin Klein jeans and wearing underwear and 2066 01:31:38.170 --> 01:31:41.029 stuff like that. And Sadie Sink has gotten zero backlash. 2067 01:31:41.590 --> 01:31:41.810 None. 2068 01:31:42.090 --> 01:31:46.750 And before Sidney Sweeney did the great jeans ad. Beyonce 2069 01:31:47.310 --> 01:31:51.250 did basically the same exact ad for American Eagle or 2070 01:31:51.270 --> 01:31:54.489 I think it was American Eagle and got nothing. So 2071 01:31:54.689 --> 01:31:58.140 it all is political. It's all an undertone in that way. 2072 01:31:58.189 --> 01:32:01.659 And it's because, and I think too, it's less that 2073 01:32:01.800 --> 01:32:04.520 she even had someone wearing MAGA and it's more that 2074 01:32:04.579 --> 01:32:07.560 she didn't announce them and she's not fully on the left, right? 2075 01:32:07.979 --> 01:32:10.140 If she sat there and she was like, I don't 2076 01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:13.510 like them. I believe in free Palestine. Women have every 2077 01:32:13.550 --> 01:32:16.369 right to kill every baby they want. Like, Then they'd 2078 01:32:16.390 --> 01:32:18.029 be like, oh, it's okay. She can make whatever ad 2079 01:32:18.050 --> 01:32:22.390 she wants. She's hot. Yeah. But because she just is like, 2080 01:32:22.529 --> 01:32:24.720 fuck you. I don't do politics. I just want to 2081 01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:28.189 entertain people. Then she's getting more of it because when 2082 01:32:28.229 --> 01:32:29.670 you don't pick a side, it's worse. 2083 01:32:29.869 --> 01:32:33.390 To take it out of the political bit with another 2084 01:32:33.470 --> 01:32:35.949 woman who has gotten some backlash from other women. 2085 01:32:36.289 --> 01:32:37.470 This is from EV Magazine. 2086 01:32:37.789 --> 01:32:40.390 Andy Navarrete is facing another round of backlash after a 2087 01:32:40.409 --> 01:32:43.699 playful moment with her Obsession co-star Michael Johnston went viral. 2088 01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:47.119 Critics called her insufferable and accused her of acting like 2089 01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:49.960 a pick-me, while fans say she was literally just having 2090 01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:52.520 fun and being herself. Has the internet already turned? And 2091 01:32:52.560 --> 01:32:54.119 I don't care what this chick says, but this is 2092 01:32:54.189 --> 01:32:56.130 like what was happening in the Hot Ones episode. 2093 01:32:56.659 --> 01:32:57.039 This is all. 2094 01:32:58.260 --> 01:32:58.380 What? 2095 01:32:58.420 --> 01:33:00.000 She was just like putting a spoon in her mouth? 2096 01:33:00.180 --> 01:33:00.640 Yeah. 2097 01:33:00.699 --> 01:33:03.819 She was having fun. She was just being playful. She 2098 01:33:03.859 --> 01:33:06.569 was having a feminine side, which is not allowed to 2099 01:33:06.609 --> 01:33:07.489 happen anymore. 2100 01:33:07.529 --> 01:33:12.409 Now, didn't Indy Navra– she's playing someone in– Rogue. She's 2101 01:33:12.430 --> 01:33:15.649 playing Rogue. And I think she said like– She is 2102 01:33:15.729 --> 01:33:19.109 going to dive into her roots as like a Southern bell. 2103 01:33:19.739 --> 01:33:23.079 And cause she's, she's not from like, she's from down 2104 01:33:23.220 --> 01:33:26.319 South and she's like, I want to play bell, you know, 2105 01:33:26.359 --> 01:33:29.119 play rogue as close as I can to her Southern bell. 2106 01:33:29.720 --> 01:33:31.930 And a lot of people are against rogue as a 2107 01:33:31.949 --> 01:33:33.829 Southern bell character. Cause they look at it as like, 2108 01:33:34.409 --> 01:33:37.210 she was very antebellum and very much in that sense. 2109 01:33:37.750 --> 01:33:39.630 So in the number, it was already getting shit for 2110 01:33:39.670 --> 01:33:43.180 her playing. She wants to play rogue authentically. And it's like, 2111 01:33:44.260 --> 01:33:46.770 people are just trying to find reasons to get mad 2112 01:33:46.810 --> 01:33:48.109 now that i do have a reason to be mad 2113 01:33:48.510 --> 01:33:51.189 did you see the fucking slob they were getting to 2114 01:33:51.229 --> 01:33:55.390 play moaning myrtle and fucking harry potter this this they 2115 01:33:55.430 --> 01:33:57.569 them is like two tons of fun and it's like 2116 01:33:57.909 --> 01:34:01.270 moaning myrtle is not just like is it she's not 2117 01:34:01.329 --> 01:34:04.399 some fat chick that's crying there's a reason why she's 2118 01:34:04.439 --> 01:34:07.020 there and that's not at all the way she's described 2119 01:34:07.039 --> 01:34:08.899 in the books and you're thinking I don't care if 2120 01:34:08.939 --> 01:34:11.539 they're fat, but they cast them not because of her talent. 2121 01:34:11.560 --> 01:34:13.180 And you look at her pictures. Like, I don't think 2122 01:34:13.199 --> 01:34:15.590 she's ever taken a casting picture in her life. They 2123 01:34:15.810 --> 01:34:19.189 all look like taken from like a fucking 1990s flip phone. 2124 01:34:19.510 --> 01:34:21.300 Like all the pictures I've seen of this chick, like, 2125 01:34:22.189 --> 01:34:23.569 What the fuck is wrong with people? 2126 01:34:23.590 --> 01:34:25.890 This is the TV show they're making? 2127 01:34:25.930 --> 01:34:28.310 Yeah, the new Harry Potter, which Black Snape is

already 2128 01:34:28.329 --> 01:34:31.850 going to make this thing awful because now Harry is 2129 01:34:31.890 --> 01:34:34.869 a giant racist and so is James Potter. They don't 2130 01:34:35.029 --> 01:34:39.619 realize what they did. James Potter tortured Severus Snape. hung 2131 01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:44.600 the motherfucker from a tree okay like well like that it's. 2132 01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:47.640 Awful they haven't announced like all of the cast yet 2133 01:34:47.659 --> 01:34:50.520 so there is a possibility that another person the character 2134 01:34:50.600 --> 01:34:52.789 in that group is black so it doesn't necessarily have 2135 01:34:52.829 --> 01:34:54.149 the racist i don't. 2136 01:34:54.050 --> 01:34:56.409 Know but either way he's just an uncle tom so 2137 01:34:56.470 --> 01:34:59.930 either way just stupid casting because they said they were 2138 01:34:59.949 --> 01:35:03.319 going to be more faithful to to the books and 2139 01:35:03.380 --> 01:35:04.159 to the IP. 2140 01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:05.500 And then all of a sudden Snape is black. 2141 01:35:05.520 --> 01:35:08.079 So it's like, obviously it's well, they're calling it philosopher's stone. 2142 01:35:08.100 --> 01:35:10.520 So don't, you know, it's more faithful already because they 2143 01:35:10.539 --> 01:35:11.770 gave it the British name. 2144 01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:13.010 Yeah. 2145 01:35:13.159 --> 01:35:15.090 Overall, the Sydney Sweeney stuff is stupid. Dave, do you 2146 01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:16.850 want to jump into the Holly road thing? Because I 2147 01:35:16.890 --> 01:35:17.829 also think that's retarded. 2148 01:35:18.029 --> 01:35:20.649 Well, I actually wanted to go to someone else who 2149 01:35:20.689 --> 01:35:21.649 has a bang and bod. 2150 01:35:24.750 --> 01:35:25.670 We saw on. 2151 01:35:25.590 --> 01:35:30.890 An interview very recently, Bill Belichick sitting here looking like this. 2152 01:35:31.689 --> 01:35:34.170 And just for anyone who thinks that this might have 2153 01:35:34.189 --> 01:35:38.729 been photoshopped, it isn't. This is the original video from 2154 01:35:38.770 --> 01:35:39.229 the Tar Heels. 2155 01:35:39.250 --> 01:35:40.829 Who's got bigger tits now, him or Sid? 2156 01:35:42.199 --> 01:35:43.159 I'm unsure. 2157 01:35:43.180 --> 01:35:46.060 I don't know what happened here. Pom, what do you 2158 01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:46.600 think happened? 2159 01:35:48.720 --> 01:35:51.149 I don't know, dude. I was wondering. I mean, him 2160 01:35:51.229 --> 01:35:54.170 or his little 28-year-old girlfriend or whatever she is. I 2161 01:35:54.289 --> 01:35:57.350 don't know who's– Got more going on there. Yeah, this 2162 01:35:57.390 --> 01:35:59.350 is just bad all around. I'm a little– it's like 2163 01:35:59.390 --> 01:36:00.770 uncomfortable to watch it, don't you think? 2164 01:36:02.680 --> 01:36:05.680 I think he's juicing. I think he's juicing and I 2165 01:36:05.739 --> 01:36:09.640 think that it's– the chest is coming

like first in 2166 01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:11.899 terms of like I think he's really like– bulking up 2167 01:36:11.979 --> 01:36:15.289 and juicing so right now we're seeing an old saggy 2168 01:36:15.329 --> 01:36:18.670 body with like steroid tits and i really think like 2169 01:36:18.750 --> 01:36:20.970 we are going to find out that he's just taking 2170 01:36:21.029 --> 01:36:23.819 a ton of hgh a ton of stem cell injections 2171 01:36:23.979 --> 01:36:27.100 a ton of juice and he's just trying to impress 2172 01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:30.600 and keep 28 year old hot thing Um, for as 2173 01:36:30.729 --> 01:36:33.210 long as possible. Like, I really think like he's going 2174 01:36:33.229 --> 01:36:35.109 to take off his shirt one day and he's going 2175 01:36:35.130 --> 01:36:37.609 to look like old school Arnold. Just like, and then 2176 01:36:37.630 --> 01:36:39.909 we're all going to be laughing and he's just going 2177 01:36:39.930 --> 01:36:41.270 to be roiding out in the sideline. 2178 01:36:41.529 --> 01:36:43.909 It's, it's what makes it extra awkward though. 2179 01:36:43.949 --> 01:36:46.210 It's not only his frame because like, how can you 2180 01:36:46.229 --> 01:36:48.229 take your eyes off of whatever the fuck's going on here? 2181 01:36:48.489 --> 01:36:51.670 But this guy is sitting as upright as possible. 2182 01:36:52.010 --> 01:36:54.909 Like, I feel like he knows what's happening. 2183 01:36:55.250 --> 01:36:57.770 He's trying to make eye contact the whole time. 2184 01:36:57.899 --> 01:36:59.800 He can't stop staring at his tits. 2185 01:36:59.840 --> 01:37:00.819 Hide that a little bit, dude. 2186 01:37:00.840 --> 01:37:02.819 Come on, sit up. 2187 01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:07.420 Do you think someone, like, is Bill Belichick at the 2188 01:37:07.460 --> 01:37:10.260 point where nobody tells him something's wrong? Like, is he 2189 01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:12.539 there where someone's not looking at him going like, Bill, 2190 01:37:12.579 --> 01:37:15.319 you got tits. Like, we need to get you a 2191 01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:17.460 bro from Seinfeld. Like, what are we doing? 2192 01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:21.560 Dude, that's exactly what that is. You don't tell Bill 2193 01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:22.699 Belichick what's going on. 2194 01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:26.510 He's Bill Belichick. If you ever watch his show, you 2195 01:37:26.770 --> 01:37:27.710 have boobs. 2196 01:37:28.630 --> 01:37:29.329 I think he knows. 2197 01:37:29.409 --> 01:37:30.529 Figure it out, man. 2198 01:37:30.550 --> 01:37:32.590 It has been a light. 2199 01:37:32.989 --> 01:37:37.869 Wear a baggier t-shirt. Like, a baggier sweatshirt. Like, I 2200 01:37:37.890 --> 01:37:42.510 don't know. That's... That's off-putting. I was hoping it was photoshopped. 2201 01:37:42.850 --> 01:37:46.340 No, no. It genuinely makes me uncomfortable. 2202 01:37:46.350 --> 01:37:46.949 I'm not going to lie. 2203 01:37:46.949 --> 01:37:48.420 Tom, you like to hit the gym. Have you ever 2204 01:37:48.460 --> 01:37:50.439 wanted to be big enough where you just straight up 2205 01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:50.960 have tits? 2206 01:37:54.340 --> 01:37:54.579 No. 2207 01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:56.180 I'll say no, I haven't. 2208 01:37:56.439 --> 01:37:57.939 By the way, I'm as small as I've been in 2209 01:37:58.010 --> 01:38:00.689 about 10 years. So I'm lean and mean right now. 2210 01:38:01.050 --> 01:38:02.970 You're just hoping on the golf game, that big muscle. 2211 01:38:03.029 --> 01:38:05.670 You can't actually get the swing you need when you're 2212 01:38:05.710 --> 01:38:06.430 that muscular. 2213 01:38:06.449 --> 01:38:09.239 Yeah. I'd agree with you, except my golf game hasn't 2214 01:38:09.260 --> 01:38:11.939 gotten any better. So that's out the window. So now 2215 01:38:11.979 --> 01:38:12.380 you know what? 2216 01:38:13.619 --> 01:38:16.699 Pom, now that you have hit your golf game, your 2217 01:38:16.739 --> 01:38:18.350 golf game was as good as it was ever going 2218 01:38:18.359 --> 01:38:20.850 to be. Goodbye. You're not going to find those weekends 2219 01:38:20.890 --> 01:38:22.850 as they get older and they start doing sports and 2220 01:38:22.869 --> 01:38:27.430 you're coaching. Goodbye, golf game. It was as good as 2221 01:38:27.470 --> 01:38:31.979 it ever was. Nate, she's saying looking like Hans or Franz. Yeah, 2222 01:38:32.159 --> 01:38:34.869 it's like it is. Get the fuck off the screen, Dave. 2223 01:38:34.890 --> 01:38:38.449 What are we doing? Get out of here. 2224 01:38:38.529 --> 01:38:40.109 It's almost hypnotizing in a way. 2225 01:38:40.130 --> 01:38:43.529 It's terrifying. It really is what it is. Do we 2226 01:38:43.569 --> 01:38:45.229 want to talk about Holly Roe? I don't care about 2227 01:38:45.250 --> 01:38:45.689 Holly Roe. 2228 01:38:46.430 --> 01:38:47.210 We don't have to. 2229 01:38:47.550 --> 01:38:49.350 I just wanted to say that it was stupid to 2230 01:38:49.449 --> 01:38:52.680 have Arch give an apology in any fucking way. And 2231 01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:57.729 it's even dumber that media... personalities are making this a 2232 01:38:57.770 --> 01:39:02.399 huge thing which when yet again we have heard nary 2233 01:39:02.439 --> 01:39:05.600 a fucking peep about diana russini and how much she 2234 01:39:05.659 --> 01:39:09.319 put women back in fucking sports journalism we barely hear 2235 01:39:09.359 --> 01:39:11.899 about her and apparently she is coming with her side 2236 01:39:11.939 --> 01:39:13.739 of this story maybe she'll. 2237 01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:16.840 Talk i was getting loud by variable but while he 2238 01:39:16.859 --> 01:39:17.640 was married. 2239 01:39:17.399 --> 01:39:19.960 And arch manning saying he's laughing at an ai video 2240 01:39:19.979 --> 01:39:22.939 that was dumb and then all of a sudden you 2241 01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:24.899 got to make this kid apologize. 2242 01:39:24.420 --> 01:39:26.590 Here's all i have to say about this Holly Rose 2243

01:39:26.609 --> 01:39:31.250 has been a sideline reporter forever. It's not that hard 2244 01:39:31.289 --> 01:39:34.010 to be a sideline reporter. Okay. It's not difficult. That 2245 01:39:34.069 --> 01:39:37.189 is the lowest version of reporter. You put interns there. Okay. 2246 01:39:37.829 --> 01:39:41.920 Holly Rose, not that talented. She's not that talented. If 2247 01:39:41.960 --> 01:39:44.539 she was really any sort of talented, she would have 2248 01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:47.199 went from there and eventually made it to commentary or desk. 2249 01:39:48.039 --> 01:39:50.399 That just tells me she's not very good at her job. 2250 01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:52.579 They just keep her on the sidelines. She's probably really 2251 01:39:52.640 --> 01:39:55.189 fucking annoying. That's why Sark was like, leave me alone. 2252 01:39:55.279 --> 01:39:58.850 Horns up. Go away. I mean, Sark's an asshole. 2253 01:39:59.229 --> 01:40:01.369 What was so offensive about it? Like he didn't take 2254 01:40:01.390 --> 01:40:03.069 the interview and said hook him or whatever? 2255 01:40:03.090 --> 01:40:05.130 He didn't take the interview. He said hook him because 2256 01:40:06.109 --> 01:40:07.909 he was going to take an interview at halftime and 2257 01:40:07.930 --> 01:40:10.479 there was a major issue with like their tech and 2258 01:40:10.489 --> 01:40:12.840 they wasted his time. Like they had him waiting there 2259 01:40:12.859 --> 01:40:14.460 for 10 minutes when he could have been back there 2260 01:40:14.500 --> 01:40:17.800 getting prepped and coaching and doing his job. So when 2261 01:40:17.819 --> 01:40:20.560 they won the game, he just came up and was like, 2262 01:40:20.819 --> 01:40:23.819 hook them and dipped. And there was an AI video 2263 01:40:24.579 --> 01:40:26.460 of him like slapping Holly. 2264 01:40:26.579 --> 01:40:28.460 I saw him backhanding her. 2265 01:40:28.539 --> 01:40:30.720 And Arch laughed at it. Arch did like a laughing 2266 01:40:30.739 --> 01:40:31.539 emoji or something. 2267 01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:32.319 No, no. 2268 01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:32.859 Dude, I saw it. 2269 01:40:33.890 --> 01:40:35.439 I think this is actually good for him in a 2270 01:40:35.470 --> 01:40:39.079 sense because– whatever. He shouldn't have said that. Is it 2271 01:40:39.100 --> 01:40:41.590 a big deal? No, but like throughout your career, you're 2272 01:40:41.600 --> 01:40:43.289 going to be in the NFL at some point. Like 2273 01:40:43.729 --> 01:40:45.529 you just have to start changing the way you think 2274 01:40:45.569 --> 01:40:47.409 about some of these things. Like we could joke about 2275 01:40:47.430 --> 01:40:49.329 that stuff and no one gives a shit. Cause it 2276 01:40:49.350 --> 01:40:53.189 was cause the video is objectively funny. Uh, but, uh, dude, 2277 01:40:53.210 --> 01:40:54.850 when you're Arsh Manning, I think you have to just 2278 01:40:54.890 --> 01:40:57.399 know that you, if you do stuff like that, you 2279 01:40:57.439 --> 01:40:59.399 have the whole world watching you and it's just not 2280 01:40:59.420 --> 01:41:01.479 worth the trouble. And, uh, you have to just carry 2281 01:41:01.500 --> 01:41:03.699 yourself a little bit differently. And cause dude, everyone's going 2282 01:41:03.720 --> 01:41:05.439 to forget about this in a week and he'll be 2283 01:41:05.460 --> 01:41:07.859 better off for it. Um, you know, just say you 2284 01:41:07.880 --> 01:41:09.380 shouldn't have said it, apologize and move on and be 2285 01:41:09.420 --> 01:41:09.789 done with it. 2286 01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:11.640 I don't know. I think you get more respect if 2287 01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:13.359 you were just like, it was an AI video. It 2288 01:41:13.390 --> 01:41:16.569 was objectively funny. Holly Roe needs to back off. Holly 2289 01:41:16.590 --> 01:41:17.569 Roe is nobody. 2290 01:41:17.770 --> 01:41:20.149 Well, the thing is in like, cause I think Holly, 2291 01:41:20.310 --> 01:41:22.569 I don't even know if Holly necessarily asked for an apology. 2292 01:41:22.890 --> 01:41:26.350 It was the sports journalists all over the place, raining 2293 01:41:26.409 --> 01:41:28.970 hell about how bad this is and all that. And 2294 01:41:28.989 --> 01:41:32.439 it's just like, You guys don't blow up about anything 2295 01:41:32.520 --> 01:41:35.500 fucking serious. What are you blowing up about this for? 2296 01:41:35.779 --> 01:41:38.100 This is retarded. Like, this is really dumb. 2297 01:41:38.319 --> 01:41:40.539 It's different if it's someone real status, right? Like, if 2298 01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:43.619 it's like Doris Burke. Doris Burke calls basketball games now. Like, 2299 01:41:43.739 --> 01:41:45.239 I don't think she's very good at it, but she 2300 01:41:45.260 --> 01:41:49.060 at least calls national games. That's a legitimate journalist. That's 2301 01:41:49.079 --> 01:41:53.039 a legitimate person that's important in the sports journalism world. 2302 01:41:53.100 --> 01:41:56.739 Or like, you know, Hannah Storm or something like that. Like, 2303 01:41:56.779 --> 01:42:02.140 someone that deserves respect. You're just a sideline reporter. I'm sorry. 2304 01:42:02.180 --> 01:42:03.560 Like I'm not going to be mean to like– I 2305 01:42:03.600 --> 01:42:06.220 know like people take pride in it and like we've 2306 01:42:06.260 --> 01:42:09.119 had Michelle Tafoya. I think Michelle Tafoya is awesome. She's 2307 01:42:09.140 --> 01:42:11.180 a great woman. But Michelle– I don't know if Michelle 2308 01:42:11.199 --> 01:42:13.909 ever wanted to be more. But it's like if all 2309 01:42:13.970 --> 01:42:16.329 you've aspired to be is a sideline reporter, it probably 2310 01:42:16.369 --> 01:42:19.510 pays well. But it's like that's like the lowest form 2311 01:42:19.810 --> 01:42:23.090 of sports journalism ever. I don't know. I don't have 2312 01:42:23.109 --> 01:42:25.010 as much respect for it. I really don't. Maybe I should, 2313 01:42:25.369 --> 01:42:27.289

but I don't know. 2314 01:42:28.010 --> 01:42:30.609 How many reporters, men and women, will do a story 2315 01:42:30.729 --> 01:42:32.449 about some dude who beat the shit out of his 2316 01:42:32.470 --> 01:42:35.069 girlfriend and the story's about when's this guy going to 2317 01:42:35.109 --> 01:42:37.329 come back and play? They don't really care about the 2318 01:42:37.369 --> 01:42:39.869 domestic violence. They care about the sports angle, but now 2319 01:42:39.890 --> 01:42:43.479 it's an AI video and you're worried that Arch Manning 2320 01:42:43.520 --> 01:42:44.100 laughed at it. 2321 01:42:44.760 --> 01:42:45.069 Come on. 2322 01:42:45.859 --> 01:42:48.960 That's the main thing for me. They're grandstanding. 2323 01:42:49.300 --> 01:42:49.560 Yes. 2324 01:42:49.880 --> 01:42:54.640 Yeah. It's just how ridiculous this has become when nowhere 2325 01:42:54.699 --> 01:42:57.350 near the amount of energy is used in other areas. 2326 01:42:57.390 --> 01:42:59.090 And I'm going to keep bringing it back to the 2327 01:42:59.130 --> 01:43:02.090 variable Rossini thing, because that is one of the biggest 2328 01:43:02.130 --> 01:43:04.699 stories we've had out of the NFL that they did 2329 01:43:04.739 --> 01:43:07.279 not give a fuck about. It's ridiculous. 2330 01:43:07.640 --> 01:43:10.920 That actually sent women reporters back because what's the lesson there? 2331 01:43:11.060 --> 01:43:12.819 You have to kind of fuck your way to the top. 2332 01:43:13.079 --> 01:43:15.930 And there's been women saying that coaches and assistant coaches 2333 01:43:15.970 --> 01:43:18.430 won't talk to them now. Like they won't get stories 2334 01:43:18.449 --> 01:43:21.189 because they don't want to seem like it's like improper. 2335 01:43:21.310 --> 01:43:24.310 And, you know, Aaron Rodgers says Aaron Rodgers, whatever the 2336 01:43:24.350 --> 01:43:25.119 fuck he wants to be. 2337 01:43:26.399 --> 01:43:27.880 You know, to stay with the Jets. I don't give 2338 01:43:27.899 --> 01:43:28.039 a fuck. 2339 01:43:28.460 --> 01:43:32.539 But him going on McAfee and going on Cam's podcast, 2340 01:43:32.579 --> 01:43:34.510 even though he said some things about Cheyenne Woodley wanting 2341 01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:36.529 to fuck another guy before they got married, which is crazy. 2342 01:43:36.850 --> 01:43:37.689 That was weird. 2343 01:43:37.729 --> 01:43:38.430 Yeah, that was really weird. 2344 01:43:39.989 --> 01:43:42.369 But him bringing it up and saying, this is someone 2345 01:43:42.409 --> 01:43:44.989 voting for coach of the year. This is someone voting 2346 01:43:45.060 --> 01:43:49.159 for MVP. But it goes further than that. This is 2347 01:43:49.260 --> 01:43:52.680 someone that has had genuine fucking clout in the industry. 2348 01:43:53.079 --> 01:43:55.859 Genuine big clout in the industry. This is someone that 2349 01:43:55.899 --> 01:44:01.520 can help manipulate trades and do certain things for the 2350 01:44:01.560 --> 01:44:04.159 Patriots or for whatever fucking team that she wanted to. 2351 01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:04.699 Be nice to. 2352 01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:08.100 So it's much bigger than just the voting. The fact 2353 01:44:08.119 --> 01:44:10.039 that the conflict of interest there and the fact that 2354 01:44:10.060 --> 01:44:12.420 journalists didn't really give a fuck about it makes me 2355 01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:14.779 not care about anything they want to bring energy to 2356 01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:17.550 anymore because you obviously do not actually give a fuck 2357 01:44:17.560 --> 01:44:18.270 about your profession. 2358 01:44:18.520 --> 01:44:21.270 And also Dan Levitard has been retarded for a long time, 2359 01:44:21.310 --> 01:44:23.310 but God, he's a giant pussy on this. He really is. 2360 01:44:23.529 --> 01:44:25.229 She's my friend and I'm not going to say anything. 2361 01:44:25.270 --> 01:44:26.930 I spoke to her on the phone. Then you know what? 2362 01:44:26.949 --> 01:44:30.340 Dan Levitard, stop having fake opinions. Cause obviously you have 2363 01:44:30.420 --> 01:44:34.279 when the shit, it's a fan. You have zero. Like 2364 01:44:34.520 --> 01:44:36.739 Dan Levitard lost a lot of credibility a long time 2365 01:44:36.779 --> 01:44:38.220 because he's a leftist loser. 2366 01:44:38.739 --> 01:44:40.729 But yeah, Sad because I like Poppy. 2367 01:44:41.170 --> 01:44:45.289 I love Poppy. Obviously, Poppy raised a retard. But, you know, 2368 01:44:45.449 --> 01:44:48.340 Dan Labrador is a leftist loser. Stugatz isn't much better. 2369 01:44:48.739 --> 01:44:50.319 And they have a breakup and they're trying to get 2370 01:44:50.359 --> 01:44:52.300 back together. And it just goes to show like Dan 2371 01:44:52.319 --> 01:44:55.520 doesn't give a shit about his friends either. But, I mean, 2372 01:44:55.539 --> 01:44:57.430 he was a close to Rossini and he's like, well, 2373 01:44:57.520 --> 01:44:59.329 I'm not going to touch it and everything. But then 2374 01:44:59.350 --> 01:45:01.310 you're fake. Then you're fake. 2375 01:45:01.729 --> 01:45:05.090 Isn't that what journalistic integrity is? He's a talking head though. 2376 01:45:05.109 --> 01:45:07.069 That's the problem. Talking heads can get away with that. 2377 01:45:07.340 --> 01:45:09.520 Where the difference is you have a guy like Colin 2378 01:45:09.560 --> 01:45:11.600 Coward who actually put a few segments to it. People 2379 01:45:11.619 --> 01:45:13.939 can hate Colin Coward. But Colin Coward put a few 2380 01:45:13.979 --> 01:45:17.479 segments towards just how big and the implications that this is, 2381 01:45:18.159 --> 01:45:20.880 the ramifications. Stephen A. Smith, love him or hate him, 2382 01:45:21.239 --> 01:45:23.819 talked about it, right? He brought it up on his show. 2383 01:45:24.380 --> 01:45:26.779 And we don't even need to bring up the dumb 2384 01:45:26.819 --> 01:45:29.279 spat between Stephen A., Kerry Champion, and Jemele Hill. 2385 01:45:29.479 --> 01:45:30.359

That's hilarious. 2386 01:45:30.460 --> 01:45:34.250 We're Kerry Champion and Jemele Hill. Here's the thing. If 2387 01:45:34.369 --> 01:45:39.109 you start off a conversation with as a insert blank, 2388 01:45:39.390 --> 01:45:42.810 you've automatically lost. You are retarded and you've lost as 2389 01:45:42.890 --> 01:45:45.590 a blank. Shut the fuck up then because if all 2390 01:45:45.630 --> 01:45:48.609 you are is your immutable characteristic, then you're a loser. 2391 01:45:49.369 --> 01:45:51.939 then you have nothing going for you. And that was, yeah, 2392 01:45:51.960 --> 01:45:53.140 it was funny because Stephen. 2393 01:45:53.159 --> 01:45:57.319 Dude, I've used that line so many times and it's 2394 01:45:57.399 --> 01:46:00.899 not about being black or being, it's that is like 2395 01:46:01.100 --> 01:46:04.060 as a nurse, as a teacher, as a engineer, like 2396 01:46:04.659 --> 01:46:07.819 as a scientist, it's like, dude, you start that off, dude. 2397 01:46:07.890 --> 01:46:09.729 I don't care what you have to say. It's like, 2398 01:46:09.770 --> 01:46:11.310 it's like, and when I ear out the other, it's 2399 01:46:11.329 --> 01:46:13.289 like your opinion needs to stand on its own based 2400 01:46:13.350 --> 01:46:15.510 on facts and evidence, not because of whatever. 2401 01:46:16.369 --> 01:46:19.189 And, you know, it's different to say, you know, like 2402 01:46:19.720 --> 01:46:22.340 within my expertise, right? Like if I'm talking about like 2403 01:46:22.380 --> 01:46:25.640 properties and stuff and you obviously are very, you know, 2404 01:46:25.659 --> 01:46:27.539 your real estate, you've been doing it for a long time. 2405 01:46:27.899 --> 01:46:30.739 You understand like values and shit like that. It's very 2406 01:46:30.779 --> 01:46:33.460 different than being like, listen, in my field in real estate, 2407 01:46:33.500 --> 01:46:35.300 in the years of experience I've had, this is what 2408 01:46:35.380 --> 01:46:35.720 I know. 2409 01:46:35.800 --> 01:46:36.020 Right. 2410 01:46:36.359 --> 01:46:38.319 And as opposed to you being like, well, you know, 2411 01:46:39.119 --> 01:46:41.750 as someone who is in real estate, it's like, that's 2412 01:46:41.770 --> 01:46:45.989 just a pompous way to start putting yourself higher than everyone. 2413 01:46:46.699 --> 01:46:49.439 Yeah, the validation in that sense would be my answer, right? 2414 01:46:49.479 --> 01:46:52.279 Like based on my expertise, here's what I think. It's 2415 01:46:52.300 --> 01:46:54.100 not like, oh, well, I'm a real estate investor, so 2416 01:46:54.119 --> 01:46:56.130 this is why you have to listen to me. No, 2417 01:46:56.449 --> 01:46:59.869 it's the answer itself. And you hear a lot like 2418 01:47:00.029 --> 01:47:02.350 as a parent, as a mom, as a dad. 2419 01:47:02.369 --> 01:47:03.270 I don't give a fuck. 2420 01:47:03.590 --> 01:47:07.189 I hate all that shit, yeah. All this whole thing 2421 01:47:07.229 --> 01:47:09.979 though with her,

it does beg the question to me 2422 01:47:10.180 --> 01:47:13.130 is– Who is Adam Schefter fucking to get all of 2423 01:47:13.170 --> 01:47:13.689 these scoops? 2424 01:47:16.409 --> 01:47:19.449 All the fucking owners. He's their bottom. Adam Schefter is 2425 01:47:19.489 --> 01:47:20.170 a power bottom. 2426 01:47:20.470 --> 01:47:22.930 If that actually were to come out, oh, my God. 2427 01:47:24.010 --> 01:47:25.550 Listen, I will say this. 2428 01:47:25.989 --> 01:47:26.909 I will say this. 2429 01:47:27.130 --> 01:47:27.609 Another story. 2430 01:47:28.090 --> 01:47:32.130 I have learned shit about insiders in sports industry that 2431 01:47:32.170 --> 01:47:37.920 would make you think. a lot different about them. I 2432 01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:42.220 will just say that there's a lot of people that 2433 01:47:42.300 --> 01:47:44.420 you think you know that are on the up and 2434 01:47:44.479 --> 01:47:48.010 up and they are not. And we'll leave it at that. 2435 01:47:48.590 --> 01:47:50.489 We'll leave it at that. 2436 01:47:50.510 --> 01:47:53.189 That's so easy to believe. The stakes are so high 2437 01:47:53.310 --> 01:47:55.770 for where one big story like this can make your 2438 01:47:55.789 --> 01:47:58.289 career or put you on some trajectory. I would not 2439 01:47:58.329 --> 01:48:01.369 be surprised by what you're saying at all. And obviously 2440 01:48:01.430 --> 01:48:02.069 it happens. 2441 01:48:02.460 --> 01:48:05.659 It's not about reporting. It's about fucking chasing. 2442 01:48:05.729 --> 01:48:08.789 What do you guys think when you ever see reporters 2443 01:48:08.829 --> 01:48:12.090 get in a spat about who dropped the story first? 2444 01:48:12.149 --> 01:48:14.130 And I'm just like, dude, the fans don't give a 2445 01:48:14.369 --> 01:48:18.909 fuck about that. It's like reporters saying, hey, actually, Alex 2446 01:48:18.970 --> 01:48:21.560 Cuesta had that story. first on CBS2. 2447 01:48:21.760 --> 01:48:24.260 Here's what happens, though, because here's the problem with that. 2448 01:48:24.279 --> 01:48:27.979 And I'll say this. The reason why that does matter, though, 2449 01:48:28.430 --> 01:48:31.390 is because people like Schefter, people like Shams, people like 2450 01:48:31.470 --> 01:48:35.619 Woj before Woj left. Would steal stories. And they do 2451 01:48:35.659 --> 01:48:38.779 it all the time. They steal stories. And some of 2452 01:48:38.819 --> 01:48:42.619 your biggest people don't actually have sources. They just wait 2453 01:48:42.640 --> 01:48:44.710 for people that are actually close to it to report it. 2454 01:48:45.140 --> 01:48:46.180 And then they report it. 2455 01:48:46.859 --> 01:48:49.279 And you're saying that like the person reporting it, it's 2456 01:48:49.300 --> 01:48:50.079 just much smaller. 2457 01:48:50.479 --> 01:48:53.680 Is much smaller. And there is some importance to that 2458 01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:56.439 small army of people that support that person. They're like, hey, 2459 01:48:56.600 --> 01:49:02.520 fuck face. This person had it. So there is something 2460 01:49:02.689 --> 01:49:07.250 to that where, again, a lot of these reporters get 2461 01:49:07.270 --> 01:49:09.090 it from somewhere else and they didn't actually have it first. 2462 01:49:09.109 --> 01:49:11.890 They just have ESPN behind them. They had Fox Sports 2463 01:49:11.989 --> 01:49:16.949 behind them, amplifying it more. So there is something. It 2464 01:49:17.029 --> 01:49:20.310 does matter. And I feel like you want to go 2465 01:49:20.369 --> 01:49:23.289 back to that original source and support them with the 2466 01:49:23.350 --> 01:49:27.289 follow because, like I said– These big sports insiders, they 2467 01:49:27.310 --> 01:49:28.289 are fucking propped up. 2468 01:49:28.789 --> 01:49:29.029 Okay? 2469 01:49:29.310 --> 01:49:32.069 The biggest ones are propped up. They're fake. 2470 01:49:32.109 --> 01:49:33.640 Just to be clear, I guess what I'm saying, and 2471 01:49:33.659 --> 01:49:35.939 I don't think people should be stealing sources or stories, 2472 01:49:35.979 --> 01:49:38.000 but it's almost like you're throwing a cup of water 2473 01:49:38.039 --> 01:49:39.760 at a tidal wave coming at you. It's like, dude, 2474 01:49:39.779 --> 01:49:43.460 the story's out on X. It's like... The average Joe 2475 01:49:43.479 --> 01:49:45.100 just doesn't give a shit who dropped it. I'm just 2476 01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:46.260 saying it's, you know. 2477 01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:51.050 Yeah, there is a lot to that. It's definitely. I 2478 01:49:51.069 --> 01:49:54.289 want to get to some comments here. Caveats saying easy solution. 2479 01:49:54.630 --> 01:49:57.649 Get women out of sports media. I mean, you need 2480 01:49:57.689 --> 01:50:00.899 some hot ones. Like Aaron Andrews was nice. Like you 2481 01:50:00.939 --> 01:50:04.119 need like, again, back to the Sydney Sweeney. Sometimes just 2482 01:50:04.140 --> 01:50:06.640 having hot women on things. Like Fox News got it 2483 01:50:06.680 --> 01:50:08.760 for a long time. Just throw hot blondes at people, 2484 01:50:08.819 --> 01:50:10.380 and then they might believe what you have to say. 2485 01:50:10.960 --> 01:50:13.390 And then you have fucking CNBC throwing Rachel Maddow. Who 2486 01:50:13.409 --> 01:50:15.229 are you going to believe, right? Like who are you 2487 01:50:15.250 --> 01:50:15.729 going to believe? 2488 01:50:16.329 --> 01:50:19.270 Apparently you had– what was it? Rachel Nichols in the 2489 01:50:19.310 --> 01:50:22.789 COVID bubble, the NBA COVID bubble. She was spending time 2490 01:50:22.810 --> 01:50:24.939 with Jimmy Butler. There was a lot of bubbles being 2491 01:50:24.979 --> 01:50:26.439 popped with Rachel. I don't think it was only Jimmy 2492 01:50:26.479 --> 01:50:27.380 Butler with Rachel Nichols. 2493 01:50:27.399 --> 01:50:28.640 That was the story I had. 2494 01:50:28.779 --> 01:50:33.220 Rachel Nichols– The NBA and Rachel Nichols were synonymous, I 2495

01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:36.340 heard for a little bit. Anyway, Nate, she's saying Dan 2496 01:50:36.380 --> 01:50:39.020 has always been the drizzling shits. He shall never be 2497 01:50:39.060 --> 01:50:42.279 forgiven for unleashing the garbage storm that is Mina Kimes. Yeah. 2498 01:50:42.659 --> 01:50:42.779 Yeah. 2499 01:50:42.819 --> 01:50:46.130 Listen, Dan Lebitard was at his best when he was 2500 01:50:46.210 --> 01:50:48.029 one of the talking heads on Around the Horn on 2501 01:50:48.050 --> 01:50:53.210 the original grouping. When it was him, Woody Page, a 2502 01:50:53.270 --> 01:50:55.850 few of those guys there. And again, listen, I actually 2503 01:50:55.909 --> 01:50:59.029 liked Dan for a good amount of time. I thought 2504 01:50:59.069 --> 01:51:01.579 him and Spugats were really good together. 2505 01:51:01.619 --> 01:51:03.500 I liked the early days of HQ. 2506 01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:05.119 Yeah. Yeah. 2507 01:51:05.239 --> 01:51:08.979 They were really good. And it's fascinating. Honestly, 2016 changed 2508 01:51:09.020 --> 01:51:12.779 everything for a lot of people. That's when people decided 2509 01:51:12.819 --> 01:51:16.159 that politics were more important than their actual integrity. And 2510 01:51:16.189 --> 01:51:17.829 they had to tell you how the fuck they were 2511 01:51:17.850 --> 01:51:20.350 going to vote. And nobody cares. Even though these are 2512 01:51:20.390 --> 01:51:23.020 the same people that were shouting about Obama before. But 2513 01:51:23.060 --> 01:51:25.260 conservatives aren't as big a bitch babies mostly. We just 2514 01:51:25.279 --> 01:51:27.340 make fun of you. And then we lose elections because 2515 01:51:27.359 --> 01:51:28.479 all we do is make fun of you and don't 2516 01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:32.979 do anything. Anyway, caveat ties also saying, as a super genius, 2517 01:51:33.149 --> 01:51:35.449 I couldn't agree more. I don't know what you're agreeing with. 2518 01:51:35.550 --> 01:51:37.550 But caveat, if you agreed with it, it's probably wrong 2519 01:51:37.569 --> 01:51:41.270 at this point. Caveat saying, being an expert does mean 2520 01:51:41.310 --> 01:51:44.369 people should automatically listen to you. Being an expert doesn't. 2521 01:51:44.729 --> 01:51:47.270 Being an expert means you have the tool to explain 2522 01:51:47.300 --> 01:51:51.510 your position. Absolutely wrong. I agree on that. So I 2523 01:51:51.550 --> 01:51:53.149 don't know if we're going to jump into politics. We're 2524 01:51:53.170 --> 01:51:56.329 already two hours deep. Where the fuck did the time go? 2525 01:51:56.590 --> 01:51:56.989 I don't know. 2526 01:51:57.369 --> 01:51:57.909 I have no idea. 2527 01:51:57.989 --> 01:51:58.729 Oh, shit. 2528 01:52:00.569 --> 01:52:04.909 We're an hour and 52 deep. We just kind of rambled. Pom, 2529 01:52:05.460 --> 01:52:07.039 this was a ton of fun, man. We got to 2530 01:52:07.060 --> 01:52:08.380 have you back on again. Mm-hmm. 2531 01:52:09.189 --> 01:52:12.630 Dude, any time, man. I am not the sports expert anymore. 2532 01:52:12.670 --> 01:52:14.909 Once you have kids, it's like everything just starts fading 2533 01:52:14.949 --> 01:52:16.529 to the background. So it was a lot of fun 2534 01:52:16.569 --> 01:52:19.300 to chat about some of that stuff. Dude, I've been 2535 01:52:19.319 --> 01:52:21.460 waiting to tell somebody about how much fun it was 2536 01:52:21.500 --> 01:52:23.960 to watch Rutgers in 2007 in the fall or whatever. 2537 01:52:23.979 --> 01:52:25.869 And I finally got to talk about it. 2538 01:52:26.520 --> 01:52:30.489 So what's funny is we did a show with... Stu Bergeer, 2539 01:52:30.529 --> 01:52:34.670 who is Glenn Beck's longtime producer, senior producer. He him 2540 01:52:34.710 --> 01:52:37.289 and Glenn aren't together as a mutual breakup, so still 2541 01:52:37.310 --> 01:52:39.369 can go pursue things on his own after, what, 30 2542 01:52:39.369 --> 01:52:42.319 years he was stuck with Glenn. And me and Dave 2543 01:52:42.340 --> 01:52:44.479 have been listening to Glenn Beck now for over a decade. 2544 01:52:44.520 --> 01:52:45.979 So we knew who Stu was and he was kind 2545 01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:48.359 of like a bucket list person. We get Stu on 2546 01:52:48.380 --> 01:52:50.659 the show. We set up the itinerary. We were going 2547 01:52:50.689 --> 01:52:53.750 to talk about some politics. And he has a new 2548 01:52:53.789 --> 01:52:57.510 show called Predictable. And he also does Stu and Dave 2549 01:52:57.529 --> 01:53:00.140 Do America with another one of our former guests, David. Blah, blah, blah. 2550 01:53:00.810 --> 01:53:03.100 We come on here, Pom, and all we do is 2551 01:53:03.140 --> 01:53:05.199 talk for about an hour and a half about sports 2552 01:53:05.300 --> 01:53:05.920 with Stuberger. 2553 01:53:06.439 --> 01:53:07.920 Oh, man. It was great. 2554 01:53:08.520 --> 01:53:10.600 You didn't even get to the meat and potatoes of 2555 01:53:10.619 --> 01:53:11.079 what you wanted. 2556 01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:12.720 But the thing is, we said this to him at 2557 01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:13.800 the end. We're like, we got to have you back 2558 01:53:13.819 --> 01:53:15.220 on and talk about politics. He's like, but this was 2559 01:53:15.279 --> 01:53:17.810 actually a ton of fun. He's like, I never get 2560 01:53:17.850 --> 01:53:20.149 to just talk sports. He's like, I was stuck with 2561 01:53:20.170 --> 01:53:22.250 Glenn for 30 years, and Glenn knows nothing about sports. 2562 01:53:22.270 --> 01:53:25.810 He's like, I don't get to just– It happens. It 2563 01:53:25.850 --> 01:53:29.409 happens where you just get to– unload your useful sports 2564 01:53:29.449 --> 01:53:32.060 knowledge and it's it's a good thing it's euphoric at 2565 01:53:32.079 --> 01:53:33.760 times always a. 2566 01:53:33.739 --> 01:53:35.119 Good hang with you guys man i always have a 2567 01:53:35.119 --> 01:53:35.659 great time. 2568 01:53:35.939 --> 01:53:39.859

Hell yeah so everyone you can go follow palm over 2569 01:53:39.960 --> 01:53:42.100 on x what is your x handle palm. 2570 01:53:43.210 --> 01:53:45.909 X and instagram are both ant palm 8 a n 2571 01:53:45.949 --> 01:53:48.569 t p a l m 8. 2572 01:53:47.829 --> 01:53:50.430 I quite literally think you've had those since the inception 2573 01:53:50.470 --> 01:53:52.090 of both by the. 2574 01:53:52.069 --> 01:53:56.720 Way that that That is me on Google Street View. 2575 01:53:57.659 --> 01:53:58.859 Oh, wow. 2576 01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:03.159 That's pretty cool. You saw it coming by and you 2577 01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:03.470 did it? 2578 01:54:03.819 --> 01:54:04.579 I saw it. 2579 01:54:04.640 --> 01:54:06.500 I was in the part. By the way, I was 2580 01:54:06.539 --> 01:54:09.329 much bigger there, which I'm very happy about that. It's 2581 01:54:09.369 --> 01:54:10.930 captured forever on Google server. 2582 01:54:10.989 --> 01:54:12.210 Is that cat hishing at this point? 2583 01:54:12.890 --> 01:54:15.869 I hit just about, but my wife's already married to me, 2584 01:54:15.909 --> 01:54:19.609 so tough luck. But I hit the front double bicep 2585 01:54:20.010 --> 01:54:22.250 as the Google car was coming by and I nailed it. 2586 01:54:22.270 --> 01:54:24.109 And by the way, I told everybody about it and 2587 01:54:24.149 --> 01:54:25.770 I had to wait like eight months for the payoff 2588 01:54:25.789 --> 01:54:28.449 when it finally hit the internet. So that probably will 2589 01:54:28.489 --> 01:54:29.050 never change. 2590 01:54:29.069 --> 01:54:30.069 That's awesome. 2591 01:54:30.170 --> 01:54:33.149 How often were you just checking Google Maps? Were you 2592 01:54:33.189 --> 01:54:34.829 checking daily when it came up? 2593 01:54:34.909 --> 01:54:38.729 Weekly. Weekly at that point. Yeah. Eight months. And then 2594 01:54:38.770 --> 01:54:40.689 finally it showed up. 2595 01:54:40.760 --> 01:54:40.949 Yeah. 2596 01:54:41.460 --> 01:54:44.060 I do have to say, I love the Malay quote 2597 01:54:44.560 --> 01:54:47.779 back there. The Javier Malay quote is, I wipe my 2598 01:54:47.859 --> 01:54:49.859 ass with the state. Chef's kiss. 2599 01:54:49.880 --> 01:54:53.409 Well, he's gotten a little weird with some Israel stuff, though, 2600 01:54:53.449 --> 01:54:56.430 so I don't know about him. If I find something better, 2601 01:54:56.470 --> 01:54:59.529 it's going up there. Go to my pinned tweet, the 2602 01:54:59.569 --> 01:55:00.470 Jeffrey Dahmer one. 2603 01:55:02.189 --> 01:55:03.229 Great. 2604 01:55:03.270 --> 01:55:03.810 Parable. 2605 01:55:03.829 --> 01:55:04.869 You just. 2606 01:55:06.939 --> 01:55:08.100 Don't want a Fed post, you know? 2607 01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:11.220 When someone asks you how you feel about government, that 2608 01:55:11.539 --> 01:55:13.159 is me, dude. That is me in a nutshell. 2609 01:55:13.960 --> 01:55:18.270 Here's the thing. It's so funny, too, now where we're at. 2610 01:55:18.390 --> 01:55:21.399

I will say there is a little bit of a 2611 01:55:21.430 --> 01:55:24.489 paradoxical switch because back in the day, it was the 2612 01:55:24.569 --> 01:55:27.350 leftists that were like, man, the government's out to get you, blah, blah, blah. 2613 01:55:27.869 --> 01:55:30.210 And now it's more of the conservatives or outside of 2614 01:55:30.649 --> 01:55:36.659 the truly mega zealots. you have like conservatives are still like, no, 2615 01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:39.289 the government's fucking terrible. And you know what? The leftists 2616 01:55:39.329 --> 01:55:42.130 were right 30 years ago about all the government experiments 2617 01:55:42.170 --> 01:55:45.109 and everything and all that. Like you guys were correct 2618 01:55:45.170 --> 01:55:47.479 on that. We will grant you that. But now the 2619 01:55:47.520 --> 01:55:49.899 left is all just like government experts. 2620 01:55:50.140 --> 01:55:50.640 Hooray. 2621 01:55:50.739 --> 01:55:53.609 Like, So it's, it's a weird flip. And again, like 2622 01:55:53.649 --> 01:55:55.430 I said, you are a libertarian and you guys are 2623 01:55:55.449 --> 01:55:57.090 always just like, is it in the constitution? 2624 01:55:57.149 --> 01:55:57.310 Nope. 2625 01:55:57.609 --> 01:55:59.489 Don't do it. Like that's about it. 2626 01:55:59.529 --> 01:56:01.649 So, but there's a lot you can make fun of 2627 01:56:01.670 --> 01:56:04.020 me for, but we're logically consistent. That's what I say. 2628 01:56:05.119 --> 01:56:08.300 I can, I can argue with libertarians a lot. We 2629 01:56:08.340 --> 01:56:10.229 actually did. Did you see, we had Mike Tremont on. 2630 01:56:11.149 --> 01:56:11.649 No, I didn't. 2631 01:56:11.670 --> 01:56:12.890 No, I don't know. That was a great episode. I'll 2632 01:56:12.909 --> 01:56:14.869 have to check that out. Me and Mike got into 2633 01:56:14.890 --> 01:56:19.149 a very nice debate about the courts and what, you know, 2634 01:56:19.170 --> 01:56:22.819 the federal courts, their jurisdiction, their rulings, and how they 2635 01:56:22.840 --> 01:56:25.920 should be treated when they make bullshit, you know, injunctions 2636 01:56:25.979 --> 01:56:28.479 and stuff like that. And I ended up getting proven 2637 01:56:28.500 --> 01:56:30.979 true in the Supreme Court later. But no, Mike's great. 2638 01:56:31.060 --> 01:56:34.279 And here's the thing. I said forever, and I'll say 2639 01:56:34.319 --> 01:56:36.689 it again about Mike, he's running for VP again, and 2640 01:56:37.210 --> 01:56:40.939 I'm whatever I disagree with Mike Tremont on, I know 2641 01:56:40.979 --> 01:56:43.439 Mike Tremont is a straight shooter and he believes what 2642 01:56:43.479 --> 01:56:45.289 he believes and he's going to go up there and 2643 01:56:45.310 --> 01:56:47.090 he's going to try and do the best that he can. 2644 01:56:47.569 --> 01:56:51.010 And he'll also listen. Like he's a libertarian. I like him. 2645 01:56:51.029 --> 01:56:54.170 I like Larry sharp. I've talked to Larry before. Larry is, 2646 01:56:54.649 --> 01:56:57.560 you know, he's running for governor again here in New York. Um, 2647 01:56:57.760 --> 01:57:00.300 I like Larry a lot. He's another straight shooter. You 2648 01:57:00.319 --> 01:57:01.920 have some other people in your party that I can 2649 01:57:01.960 --> 01:57:02.399 give and take. 2650 01:57:03.100 --> 01:57:08.279 Um, but yeah, No argument for me, dude. By the way, 2651 01:57:08.300 --> 01:57:10.619 I identify as like a little L libertarian. Like I'm 2652 01:57:10.659 --> 01:57:13.710 not really so much into the libertarian party, more of 2653 01:57:13.750 --> 01:57:14.430 the philosophy. 2654 01:57:14.510 --> 01:57:16.369 No one hates libertarians more than libertarians. 2655 01:57:16.390 --> 01:57:20.590 That's the thing. Every libertarian I've talked. 2656 01:57:20.310 --> 01:57:22.420 To or I've seen talk– No one's in the party. 2657 01:57:22.800 --> 01:57:27.140 No one– Every single one is a little L libertarian. 2658 01:57:27.399 --> 01:57:30.380 I've never seen someone go, yeah, I'm a big L libertarian. 2659 01:57:30.560 --> 01:57:31.680 Like I've never seen that. 2660 01:57:31.720 --> 01:57:33.939 The only one of the New Hampshire. The New Hampshire 2661 01:57:33.970 --> 01:57:36.829 guys are all just like, absolutely, I'm a New Hampshire libertarian. 2662 01:57:37.289 --> 01:57:41.989 Dude, there's just so many weirdos, man. It's like, come on, dude. 2663 01:57:42.529 --> 01:57:44.729 Well, because here's the thing. I know people don't like 2664 01:57:44.770 --> 01:57:47.819 Tim Pool, but Tim Pool describes it correctly. Every single 2665 01:57:47.960 --> 01:57:51.439 one of them just want to bend the law somehow. 2666 01:57:51.460 --> 01:57:53.640 They just want to be left alone. So it's like 2667 01:57:53.859 --> 01:57:56.380 you have that smorgasbord of people that want to be 2668 01:57:56.399 --> 01:57:59.439 left alone from government spying and government overreach. And then 2669 01:57:59.470 --> 01:58:00.750 you have those people who are just like, I want 2670 01:58:00.770 --> 01:58:03.289 to do a ton of drugs and be a prostitute. 2671 01:58:03.550 --> 01:58:06.970 And they all fall into the libertarian pile because it's 2672 01:58:07.029 --> 01:58:09.189 very similar of get government away from me and do 2673 01:58:09.229 --> 01:58:11.539 as little as possible. and it's like then you guys 2674 01:58:11.560 --> 01:58:15.000 have this smorgasbord of people and it's it's an interesting 2675 01:58:15.039 --> 01:58:16.279 bunch you guys have there. 2676 01:58:16.840 --> 01:58:18.600 In the part in the party i agree but if 2677 01:58:18.640 --> 01:58:21.359 you look at the broader the broader philosophical movement on 2678 01:58:21.510 --> 01:58:24.329 x or whatever there's like you know and it's probably 2679 01:58:24.350 --> 01:58:26.329 spearheaded at this point by like the dave smiths of 2680 01:58:26.350 --> 01:58:28.869 the world who like have more mass like widespread

appeal 2681 01:58:28.909 --> 01:58:32.590 but Yeah, I mean that's kind of where I think– 2682 01:58:32.909 --> 01:58:35.270 that's where the movement grows, not in the party itself 2683 01:58:35.329 --> 01:58:37.640 but more on the internet that way. 2684 01:58:37.949 --> 01:58:40.720 It's just hilarious. Yeah, no libertarian actually says they're in 2685 01:58:40.779 --> 01:58:43.300 the party. They are– you guys are a movement, not 2686 01:58:43.340 --> 01:58:45.380 a party, which is a problem when you guys try 2687 01:58:45.399 --> 01:58:47.340 to get on ballots and complain you're not because it's 2688 01:58:47.380 --> 01:58:49.359 like you're not a party. No one I know is 2689 01:58:49.380 --> 01:58:50.319 in the libertarian party. 2690 01:58:50.680 --> 01:58:54.619 Look. I actually think I am a registered libertarian at 2691 01:58:54.640 --> 01:58:57.600 this point. I might have been a registered Republican so 2692 01:58:57.659 --> 01:58:59.619 I could vote in the primary last time, but I 2693 01:58:59.659 --> 01:59:02.409 am a member of the Libertarian Party. But those letters 2694 01:59:02.449 --> 01:59:03.930 come to my house and I throw them in the trash, 2695 01:59:03.949 --> 01:59:04.489 put it that way. 2696 01:59:04.930 --> 01:59:05.649 Here's the thing, though. 2697 01:59:05.909 --> 01:59:06.689 I pay my 60 bucks a year. 2698 01:59:07.489 --> 01:59:10.689 I'm a registered Republican in my town committee, and God, 2699 01:59:10.729 --> 01:59:13.640 do I hate Republicans. It's like I'm also there. 2700 01:59:14.220 --> 01:59:16.539 In a different way, in a completely different way, right? 2701 01:59:16.560 --> 01:59:19.300 Oh, my God. They're useless. That's why. Because Republicans are 2702 01:59:19.319 --> 01:59:22.359 a useless bunch, and they're not conservative. And that's my 2703 01:59:22.399 --> 01:59:26.479 biggest issue. They're not conservative. And I've said to Dave, 2704 01:59:26.600 --> 01:59:29.619 I want to see if I can rally every resource 2705 01:59:29.680 --> 01:59:31.399 and person that we know on the right and just 2706 01:59:31.439 --> 01:59:34.829 make our own party. Like make an actual conservative party 2707 01:59:35.090 --> 01:59:38.710 gatekeep it. And it's like, okay, a reasonable libertarian that 2708 01:59:39.170 --> 01:59:41.710 is not fully retarded on foreign policy, you can come. 2709 01:59:42.369 --> 01:59:44.899 Because for general, I agree with libertarians on a lot, 2710 01:59:45.340 --> 01:59:48.560 except libertarians are the worst foreign policy people in the history, man. 2711 01:59:49.119 --> 01:59:50.520 Outside of that, I like you guys. 2712 01:59:52.159 --> 01:59:54.359 Hey, listen, it would be a fun argument. Maybe we'll 2713 01:59:54.380 --> 01:59:57.460 have this one day. I think a lot of libertarians 2714 01:59:57.479 --> 01:59:59.439 these days are much more pragmatic in the sense that 2715 01:59:59.460 --> 02:00:02.779 like anything that gets more towards what I believe in, 2716 02:00:03.159 --> 02:00:05.210 I'm for. It's not like all or nothing because it 2717 02:00:05.229 --> 02:00:06.930 doesn't– it just doesn't work that way. 2718 02:00:06.949 --> 02:00:10.350 That's not politics, right? That's not politics in general. I 2719 02:00:10.390 --> 02:00:11.869 do think, Pom, I think we have to have you 2720 02:00:11.909 --> 02:00:15.970 back on with rhetoric, Eric, because he's another libertarian. I 2721 02:00:16.250 --> 02:00:17.989 feel like that would be fun to have you guys 2722 02:00:18.170 --> 02:00:21.720 representing a little bit more of the reasonable libertarian small Ls. 2723 02:00:22.239 --> 02:00:23.659 And then me and Dave could kind of come at 2724 02:00:23.699 --> 02:00:25.819 it more from like the conservative side because Dave and 2725 02:00:25.880 --> 02:00:29.590 I are both– we have our libertarian streak because we 2726 02:00:29.649 --> 02:00:31.170 certainly agree on small government. 2727 02:00:31.210 --> 02:00:33.590 Dude, we probably agree on 75% of stuff, but that's 2728 02:00:33.630 --> 02:00:35.810 not fun. It's the 25% that we'll go at it on, 2729 02:00:35.850 --> 02:00:37.210 which is where it's at. 2730 02:00:37.510 --> 02:00:39.340 Which is where me and Mike Tremont were, right? We 2731 02:00:39.399 --> 02:00:41.880 agreed on so much. And then when it came down 2732 02:00:41.920 --> 02:00:45.000 to like– federal overreach and things like that like we 2733 02:00:45.039 --> 02:00:47.300 just had a minor disagreement and it was a really 2734 02:00:47.340 --> 02:00:50.180 fun debate and mike's a great dude so um again 2735 02:00:50.239 --> 02:00:52.800 i'm supporting mike for at least the vp of the 2736 02:00:52.859 --> 02:00:56.619 libertarian party because he's running for it again um i 2737 02:00:56.859 --> 02:01:00.689 won't be supporting him for the major general election if 2738 02:01:00.729 --> 02:01:02.670 he gets it but i will say i do like 2739 02:01:02.710 --> 02:01:06.649 mike termont a ton so but outside of that Palm again. 2740 02:01:06.689 --> 02:01:08.829 Thanks for coming on. This was a ton of fun. 2741 02:01:08.869 --> 02:01:12.890 We could talk for six hours. But eventually we do 2742 02:01:12.989 --> 02:01:14.989 have to go because I make this joke and I'll 2743 02:01:15.010 --> 02:01:17.050 say it again. We sure as fuck are not Joe Rogan. 2744 02:01:17.510 --> 02:01:18.850 And no one's going to want to listen to us 2745 02:01:18.890 --> 02:01:22.029 talk for like three to six hours. So everyone that's 2746 02:01:22.130 --> 02:01:25.380 out there that watched, listened, if you're listening to this, 2747 02:01:25.439 --> 02:01:27.800 it's probably back to back from last week's episode because 2748 02:01:28.199 --> 02:01:30.779 I'm a lazy fuck and have not gotten that out 2749 02:01:30.800 --> 02:01:32.979 to Spotify yet. So I'm going to work on getting 2750 02:01:33.060 --> 02:01:36.159 both of these out. But Thank you guys for watching, 2751 02:01:36.199 --> 02:01:37.819 for listening. Smash that like button. 2752 02:01:37.899 --> 02:01:38.340 Follow. 2753 02:01:39.300 --> 02:01:41.100 Dave, are we stuck in a loop where we don't 2754 02:01:41.239 --> 02:01:42.560 have a guest next week? We suck. 2755 02:01:42.600 --> 02:01:45.600 We got to figure something out. I might not even 2756 02:01:45.640 --> 02:01:46.000 be here. 2757 02:01:47.300 --> 02:01:47.899 Fuck you, Dave. 2758 02:01:48.239 --> 02:01:49.020 Hey, I'm moving. 2759 02:01:50.140 --> 02:01:52.810 I don't care. You got to find the spot. 2760 02:01:53.470 --> 02:01:53.890 Maybe I will. 2761 02:01:54.369 --> 02:01:57.489 And figure it out. But anyway, everyone, thank you so much. 2762 02:01:57.789 --> 02:02:00.649 We'll be back next week or I'll be back doing something. 2763 02:02:01.149 --> 02:02:02.409 I will talk to everyone later. 2764 02:02:02.430 --> 02:02:03.310 Bye, y'all. 2765 02:02:03.909 --> 02:02:04.260 See you.