התמלול המלא של Heartstrings and Crime Scenes The Secrets Behind Cold Case Couple- Part One

case, and 65 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:46.680 there was an outrageous number of sharing over the injustices 66 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:51.639 surrounding Corney Coco's story. So, Courtney Coco was a nineteen 67 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:57.720 year old college student hailing from Rapidese Parish, Louisiana. She 68 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:03.160 was actually pursuing a career in criminal justice at Northwestern 69 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:07.199 State University and the last time her mother, Stephanie Belguarde, 70 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:11.240 saw her alive was on October one, two thousand and four. 71 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:18.120 Her mom did an interview with Dateline NBC and she 72 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:21.279 was just so heartbroken and she re counted the following 73 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:24.879 it was the opening day of Squirrel season and we 74 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:27.680 had plans to go camping for the weekend. Courtney was 75 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:30.240 at my house and I invited her to come join 76 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:37.519 us on this squirrel hunt, and she politely declined that offer, 77 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:41.079 and she was not particularly fond of the camp life. 78 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:45.639 So Stephanie stated that she reflected on her daughter, saying 79 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.839 the following Courtney was always dedicated to improving herself and 80 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:53.240 shaping her future. She had a zest for life. Her 81 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:58.519 sisters and nephews filled her absence profoundly, and they were 82 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:02.279 a very tight knit family and this has been incredibly 83 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:06.879 challenging for all of them. But on Monday, October four, 84 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:10.680 two thousand and four, the partially closed and decaying remains 85 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:13.839 a nineteen year old Courtney Coco were discovered in an 86 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:18.959 abandoned structure located at Formsy Market Road fourteen oh six 87 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:23.800 aka FM fourteen oh six, which was adjacent to Interstate 88 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:28.959 ten and Winnie, Texas Now. Courtney was a resident of Alexandria, 89 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.800 as previously stated, and she was last seen around four 90 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:38.360 thirty am on Saturday, October second, two thousand and four. 91 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.839 Despite various leads during the investigation, the case went cold 92 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:46.800 fifteen years following the discovery of Courtney's body. Law enforcement 93 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:52.480 apprehended a suspect who had been engaged to Coco's sister 94 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:55.519 in two thousand and four, So let me stop right there, 95 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:59.639 right quiet, in case you weren't following. Her sister was 96 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.759 engaged to this person that they deemed the suspect and 97 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:09.920 who was arrested for the murder of Courtney. So this 98 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:13.800 dude faced trial, and after a deliberation period of only 99 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:17.240 ninety minutes, a jury from a Rapany's parish reached an 100 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:24.000 unanimous verdict of guilty for second degree murder. The uncertainty 101 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:27.720 surrounding the events that befell nineteen year old Courtney Meghan 102 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:32.079 Coco caused significant distress for her family and her acquaintances. 103 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:36.639 Her mother, Stephanie, remained vocal about her daughter's case, engaging 104 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:40.000 in advocacy for victim's rights and collaborating with the National 105 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:45.000 Organization of Parents of Murdered Children, and she made the 106 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:49.040 following statement, I know that there's a reason that I'm 107 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:53.639 in this position, and I think it's to help others. 108 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:57.360 I can't get justice for my daughter, but I'm trying, 109 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:01.160 and I'm going to keep trying. Time out last dying breath, 110 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:05.399 she also stated, but I could help other families to 111 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:08.319 get justice for theirs, and that's what I'm going to do. 112 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:12.879 She stated, she is Courtney's voice and she will always 113 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:18.319 be Courtney's voice. So Skyler Hearn served as an investigator 114 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:21.199 with Texas Rangers in two thousand and four, and on 115 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:24.120 October fourth of two thousand and four, he received a 116 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:28.199 request for assistance from the Chambers County Sheriff's Office recording 117 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:32.840 an unidentified body found in an abandoned structure. Now, Skyler 118 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:35.720 testified that the body was found new from the waist 119 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:41.399 down save what sucks, and position in a sexual elect 120 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:44.879 position to his on her back, with her knees bent 121 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:49.559 and legs spread wide open and arms extended to her side. 122 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:53.240 The body was located near the opening doorway of the 123 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:58.080 building with her genitalia area facing the road. How fucking 124 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:05.799 humiliating is that, y'all? Like, I can't I can't imagine 125 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:11.080 that if her mama, her mama probably felt ashamed for her, 126 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.759 Like that's no way that a person should be treated 127 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.519 displayed out there with her legs wide open, spread eagle 128 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:21.080 to the freaking road. What more or less? Like just 129 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:29.759 this is just

disturbing, but with that being said, the 130 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:35.720 body was located near the doorway, and it was in 131 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.879 various stages of decomposition. There was evidence of post mortem 132 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:44.799 alteration to her nose and mouth. Now Courtney was identified 133 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:48.080 through her class ring, which on her class ring, like 134 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:51.559 most it bored her name on it. The dust on 135 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:55.159 the floor remained undisturbed, indicating that a sexual assault likely 136 00:09:55.320 --> 00:10:00.919 did not take place within the building. However, you know 137 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:06.159 that Detective Hern documented nearby shoe entire impressions, and the 138 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:10.240 state presented several photographs illustrating Courtney's body and the crime 139 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:15.159 scene along with Detective Parent's testimony. Now, Hearn remarked that 140 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.440 one of the photographs revealed a slight heel drag in 141 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:21.679 the dust, suggesting that she had been placed in that 142 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:27.120 position rather than being dragged there. Now, Detective her and 143 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:32.840 communicated with the Alexandria Police Department APD, and this followed 144 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:37.240 the identification of Courtney Coco. During what she discovered that 145 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.759 both her vehicle and her phone were unaccounted for. Now, 146 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:44.279 Courtney was known to drive a pony at Bonneville s 147 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:48.440 Dan bearing the Louisiana license plate j u W for 148 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:54.600 six eighth. Detective Cedric Green of the Alexandria Police Department 149 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.159 conducted a search of Courtney's residents and he had formed 150 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:00.879 Detective her And that a bedroom was just a total 151 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:08.840 disarray and her confider was actually reported as a miss. Additionally, 152 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:12.200 the detective her And learned that Corny had recently inherited 153 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:15.600 a substantial amount of money, and he noted the presence 154 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:18.000 of an empty cash box in her home that appeared 155 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:22.759 to have been forcibly open. So that leads us to 156 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:25.799 know that this crime is one it appears that it 157 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:31.120 is sexually motivated, finding her body with her pants down 158 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.639 and posed a sexual position. And number two, money motivated 159 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:40.720 because she just was like in the place of inheriting 160 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:44.639 so much money. So the detective Hearn was president at 161 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:48.639 the autopsy at Corty and the autopsy was actually performed 162 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:52.440 by doctor Tommy Brown. According to information provided by the 163 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:56.919 Alexander Police Apartment, Detective her discovered that Corny has been 164 00:11:57.039 --> 00:12:00.799 lasting a live approximately fifty two hours before her body 165 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:04.799 was discovered. Now, doctor Brown determined that Cocoa's remains had 166 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:07.720 been moved from a different location where the temperature was 167 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:13.600 actually elevated, as evident by the advanced state of decomposition, 168 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.480 but estimated that it would have taken between four to 169 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.240 seven days for her body to decompose to such an 170 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:25.679 advanced stage in the environment in which it was ultimately found. Now, 171 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:29.840 the Tective Hearn indicated that an investigation following the discovery 172 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:34.159 that Courtney's vehicle was missing along with her cell phone, 173 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:38.440 and he sought to ascertain the temperature within a coarse trunk, which, 174 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:41.720 given that the temperature in Alexander was approximately in the 175 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:47.519 upper eighties, it would likely exceed one hundred degrees inside 176 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:52.480 the trunk. Now, Detective Hearn traced Courtney's phone to Houston, 177 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.639 where a juvenile was actually in possession of it, and 178 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:00.639 informed the authorities that he recently purchased it from individual 179 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:05.559 he referred to as Red. Additionally, Detective Arent located at 180 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:08.759 Courtney's car in the same vicinity in Houston where it 181 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:12.840 was reportedly being rented out to exchange for a narcotics 182 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:17.720 The individuals found with the vehicle claimed to have obtained 183 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.799 it from this same suspect that the cell phone was 184 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:26.200 obtained Red. However, none of those in possession of Courtney's 185 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:29.559 belongings were connected to her depth and the identity of 186 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:36.879 this person named Redd remained unknown. Detective Hearn provided a 187 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:41.399 testimony indicated that Coke Co's DNA was discovered in the 188 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:47.080 trunk of her own car and Fred Landry's DNA was 189 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:51.320 located on the latch of the trunk. The Austin Police 190 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:55.679 Department and firm detective and formed detective term about a 191 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:59.759 suspect in the custody and this suspect was named Levey Duncan. 192 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:04.440 Of his investigation

yielded no evidence linking Duncan to Courtney 193 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:09.720 Coco's case. So this case and associated chargers are fundamentally 194 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:15.559 based on factual circumstances, and such, our examination of the 195 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.879 factual evidence that was accepted and submitted to the jury, 196 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:23.600 while extensive, detailed, and at times redundant in this opinion, 197 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:28.080 was essential for a comprehensive and thorough evaluation of the 198 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:35.679 intricate and interconnected tissues raised in disappeal. So we will 199 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:39.159 now outline the evidence that was presented during the trial. Also, 200 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:42.039 we're going to acknowledge at the beginning that the jury 201 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:47.200 faced conflicting and contradictory testimonies which required them to address 202 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:52.639 multiple factual disagreements. The initial witness to provide testimony during 203 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:56.919 the trial was Wayland Dirrex. At the time of the proceedings, 204 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:00.799 Wayland resided in a homeless shelter in Misso from where 205 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:04.799 he was arrested and subsequently transported to Louisiana in order 206 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:09.320 to testify. Now there's some stated that he had known 207 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:14.480 the suspect for approximately twenty five to thirty years, and 208 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.720 in May of twenty eleven, he engaged in a discussion 209 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:21.879 with the suspect regarding the act of killing. Now there's 210 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:24.799 an express his belief that he could never take a life, 211 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:28.559 to which the suspect replied, it ain't as hard as 212 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:33.519 you think. Now. The suspect then recounted an incident in 213 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:36.399 which he claimed to have killed someone by smothering them 214 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:40.519 and mentioned that he disposed of the body afterwards. Derrison 215 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:48.000 recalled that the suspect that was under arrest indicated he 216 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:52.000 used a pillow, excuse me, or something like that to 217 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:57.399 smother the individual. But the more Durson testify that the 218 00:15:57.480 --> 00:15:59.879 suspects said he wrapped the body in a blanket and 219 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:04.919 it believed it was actually dismarted in Texas. So this 220 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:10.200 is leading up to Courtney Cocote, right, because you know 221 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:14.200 Courtney's confident was missing from her home and while you 222 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.919 know her body was found in Whenny, Texas and the 223 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:21.039 the NN warehouse. But the suspect reference a person named 224 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:24.720 Cocoa and ascerned that the blanket actually belonged to her 225 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:29.480 as well. Garrison speculated that Courtney was either the suspect's 226 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.240 girlfriend or the sister of his girlfriend. Because it was 227 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:37.600 kind of confusing, and followed that conversation, Derrison promptly reported 228 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.799 the details to the police and provided a recorded statement. 229 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:44.919 He noted that the suspect appeared anxious about the possibility 230 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:50.080 of their mutual friend, Chris Clark, sharing information with law enforcement, 231 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:55.519 so Chris Clark was potentially a ci AKA criminal informat right. 232 00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:01.120 But during cross examination, Derrison and acknowledged that he had 233 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:04.599 multiple convictions from that he was unable to specify the 234 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:07.599 color the blanket or its owner, although he speculated that 235 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:11.359 it might have belonged to Courtney. Now the Defense Council 236 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:15.200 probe Derrison regarding his early statement to the police in 237 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:18.759 which he claimed that the suspect in lace Evans Coco's 238 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:24.519 sister had murdered Courtney to obtain insurance fund In a 239 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:29.079 previous account, Derrison mentioned that Courtney was wrapped in his blanket, 240 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:32.680 yet during his testimony he referred to the blanket as herbs, 241 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:36.680 so there was you know, mix up in the stories 242 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:40.319 he was saying. He couldn't get his shit together. Derrison 243 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:43.240 informed the police that Evans had a role in Courtney's murder. 244 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:46.079 He refuted the notion that his history of drug use 245 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:51.880 had any impact on his memory. On redirect examination, Derrison 246 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:56.039 clarified that the SUSA never stated that Evans had killed Courtney, 247 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:00.480 but rather indicated that Evans was involved in matters related 248 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:04.279 to the money asspot. Derrison asserted that he had no 249 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:09.480 modeve to fabricate his testimony, and Detective Heron followed up 250 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:13.519 with a cross examination, and he said that he was 251 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:17.839 not aware of the developments of Alexandri Police Department's investigation 252 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:23.599 following October two thousand and five. Throughout his investigation, He's 253 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:27.039 discovered that this person named Read was with an unnamed 254 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:31.400 cousin when they disposed of Courtney's car and

phone in Houston. 255 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:36.240 Detective Karen acknowledged that if Corney's car had been utilized 256 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:41.720 to transport her body and then was subsequently abandoned in Houston, 257 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:46.440 then the perpetrator would require another vehicle to return to 258 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:50.799 whatever destination they were going to. After the Defense Council 259 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:53.920 inquired whether Landard could be regarded as a suspect due 260 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:57.480 to his z NATE being present on the Trump fladge, 261 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:01.680 Detective Karen responded that it would be necessary to ascertain 262 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:05.279 win and how lander DNA came to be on that 263 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:11.960 Trump lodge, and the DNA that was discovered under Cordy 264 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:16.680 Coco's fingernails was her own DNA, so when the Defense 265 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:19.799 Council acts detected her and if his testimony indicated that 266 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:25.599 the defendant was responsible for Courtney's death, he replied negatively. 267 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:31.640 Now a doctor of osteopathic Medicine, Doctor Tommy Brown was 268 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:36.720 recognized as an authority in forensic pathology and he achieved 269 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:42.759 bar certification an Atomic and Clinical Pathology in nineteen seventy six, 270 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:47.119 followed by Nuclear Medicine in nineteen seventy nine and forensics 271 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:51.200 pathology in nineteen ninety. Throughout his career, doctor Brown had 272 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:57.240 performed over fifteen thousand autosy show and it had been 273 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:00.480 acknowledged that he was an expert in the runs a 274 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:06.400 pathology field on more than one hundred different occasions, and 275 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:09.480 on October fifth, two thousand and four, doctor Brown conducted 276 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:12.839 the autopsy on Courtney Coco and he reported that the 277 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:16.480 body was in a state a severe decomposition accompanied by 278 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:20.000 a significant odor. When a state acquired whether in an 279 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:23.799 individual who handled a decomposing body would carry the same odor, 280 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:30.279 doctor Brown concurred. He emphasized that the necessity of having 281 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:36.039 background information prior to forming a conclusive opinion. Doctor Brown 282 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:38.599 noted that Courtney was last seen on October second, two 283 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:41.599 thousand and four, at four thirty am, and a timeline 284 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:45.480 did not align with that advanced decomposition that was observed. 285 00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:49.000 He testified that Courtey must have been subjected to high

286 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:54.240 temperatures during that time, which would have expedited the decomposition process. 287 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:58.599 Doctor Brown also acknowledged that being confined in the trunk 288 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:02.720 of a vehicle could actually contribute to that accelerated decomposition. 289 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:07.519 Doctor Brown conducted an external examination of Courtney, which showed 290 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.799 no indicators of trauma. The contents of Courtney's stomach included 291 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.240 French fries and chewing gum, and there was evidence of 292 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:19.720 alcohol in her system as well, and doctor Brown determined 293 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:24.400 that the cause of death was a homicide by unspecified means, 294 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:29.720 attributing this conclusion to the body's significant decomposition, which hindered 295 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:35.599 the identification of and anatomical details. It testified that the 296 00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:39.559 most probable cause of death was exphixia resulting from smothering. 297 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:43.599 Given the absence of bodily trauma, the lack of any diseases, 298 00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:49.000 and analysis of the toxicology report. His autosity report was 299 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:53.759 submitted as evidence and outlined his findings as follows cause 300 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:58.359 of death homicide by undetermined means in a severely decomposed body, 301 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:03.519 manner of death homicide and the comment that was left 302 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:10.359 on this finding was All procedures were performed by the prosecutor, 303 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:14.519 including the collection of decomposition fluid and spleen for toxicology. 304 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:19.680 A rape kit was performed, bringing out scrapings, clippings and swabs, 305 00:22:20.039 --> 00:22:24.039 pulled head hair, pulled and combed pubic hair, and a 306 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:27.799 removal of clothing and recovery of hair from the clothing 307 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:30.640 and the body. The body was in a severe state 308 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:34.599 of decomposition, which all secured. The anatomic findings and the 309 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:38.680 circumstances of the case are indicative of a homicide the 310 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:42.599 mechanisms would most likely be due to expixiate due to smothering, 311 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:46.519 and the toxicology results were real that ethanol content contributed 312 00:22:46.599 --> 00:22:51.680 most likely from the severity of the decompositional state. Doctor 313 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:56.319 Brown was in question regarding the toxicology results, and I'm 314 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.200 gonna go with the question and answers. Hair So y'all 315 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:02.880 could really understand how he was questioned on the stamp. 316 00:23:03.480 -->

00:23:06.400 So the question presented to him was so the last 317 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:11.440 sentence there, toxicology results revealed and ethanol content contributed most 318 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.599 likely from the severity of the decompositional state. What on 319 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:19.480 earth does that mean? Now? Doctor Brown followed up with 320 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:24.279 his answer, and this is what he said. The autopsy 321 00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:30.640 findings on ms n MS two. Our toxicology with m 322 00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:37.599 n MS shows that a toxicology analysis was done twenty 323 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:43.680 sixteen six and sent to NMS, and their results showed 324 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:47.160 that the ethanol or the alcohol level was zero point 325 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:52.039 one seven eight grams per one hundred miller leaders and 326 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:56.960 that is about half of what the original You see 327 00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:00.440 how he's talking. Why is he talking? I guess because 328 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.599 it's annoying me. Me trying to read this to you 329 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:09.240 is disturbing who let me finish what he said. So 330 00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:11.680 he said that, you know, it was zero point one 331 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.400 seven eight grams per one hundred milli leaders, and that 332 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:19.759 is about half of what the original autopsy findings at 333 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:24.039 the America Talks was. It also showed that she had 334 00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:29.359 adjusted some tramadol, which is a synthetic opioid that is 335 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:34.519 used for pain, and it is also an opium derivative. 336 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:40.559 And eleven hundred nanograms per millial leader nanograms is billions 337 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.400 of a mill leator. So then they followed up with 338 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:48.160 this question, so, so explain that to me. How is 339 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:52.759 it we have a n m as Laves report which 340 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.079 finds the blood alcohol concentration of zero point one seven 341 00:24:56.200 --> 00:25:00.640 eight and the spleen haaso point thirty two. How does 342 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:04.839 that actually happen? So doctor Brown followed up with his answer, 343 00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:07.839 and he said, the interval of time for one reason, 344 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.920 but also the screen. It's there's no studies that I 345 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:14.960 know of that you take blood in the screen and 346 00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:18.240 you can quantitate the amount of blood from the screen 347 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.599 and put it into your mililu or the findings that 348 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:26.880 you're going to make your decision for an autops In 349 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:30.200 my opinion, she probably was drinking at the time, but 350 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.519

that would not account for her being totally or could 351 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:39.759 have died from alcohol intoxication. And he also followed up 352 00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:41.920 with there's a number of things that might interfere with 353 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:46.640 the results. Number one is it's postmark. Number two is 354 00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:51.279 there's a peripheral distribution of the alcohol and the drugs 355 00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:54.519 within the system. After death, it goes to different ports 356 00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:58.000 with the organs, and this screen is a carripheal organ 357 00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:02.039 so it's going to show an elevated love will Also, however, 358 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:06.920 there's no studies in forensics and toxicology that does not 359 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:09.960 use display as a quantitive reason to determine that the 360 00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:14.319 person has died from alcohol intoxication. It's not acceptable as 361 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:19.400 a quantitative means qualitative. You can say there's alcohol there, 362 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:21.960 and I could try to divide it up by saying 363 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:27.480 that she probably did and vibe with alcohol, but it 364 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:29.920 was not near where they're referring to as the point 365 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:37.640 thirty two. So in case you're like English, please because 366 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:42.720 that she was like what confusing. Blood alcohol concentration levels 367 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.599 up to zero point one point six may be linked 368 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:50.880 to process of the body's decomposition. However, doctor Brown emphasized 369 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.920 that displaying is not a reliable indicator for assessing the 370 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:58.160 blood alcohol concentration, expressed at his belief that Courtney did 371 00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:02.200 not succumb to her demand to alcohol poisoning or a 372 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:05.799 drug overdose. The presidence of chewing gum played a crucial 373 00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:10.640 role in concluding that Courtney was affixiated, as it indicated 374 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:13.480 to doctor Brown that she was likely chewing the gum 375 00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:16.920 at the time of her being smothered, which led to 376 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:23.079 her inadvertly swallowing it. Now, Doctor Harry Vannelle and Adele 377 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:27.119 Shaker arrived at conclusions that was also consistent with those 378 00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:31.319 of doctor Brown. During cross examination, Doctor Brown said that 379 00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:35.079 there were no signs of lacerations around Courtney's snap, nor 380 00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:38.960 were there any fractures present in the carotid or hyoid 381 00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:43.680 bones that would imply strangulation. His assertion that Courney suffered 382 00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:48.200 from exphyxiation was derived from the diagnosis of exclusion only, 383 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:53.880 and this was informed by his education and his experience professionally. 384 00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:59.119 Doctor Brown also mentioned his intention to determine the substances 385 00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:01.640 that was present in her system, which led him to 386 00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:07.200 extract blood from her spleens solely for qualitative analysis the 387 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.359 toxicology report from twenty fifteen the presence of tramadol and 388 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:14.880 courting system. However, doctor Brown believed that the quantity of 389 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.359 the amount of tramadol found in her system detected that 390 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:21.559 it was insufficient to suggest any type of overdose from 391 00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:28.640 a curran And he also followed up with this in 392 00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:35.119 the statement while he was on the stand and he 393 00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:38.640 said not in my opinion, No, the on one sense 394 00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:43.200 shows on five deaths due to tramadol, the meaning was 395 00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:46.480 zero point six thousand, one hundred. She only had one 396 00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.480 one hundred. So the debts that were reported you to 397 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:54.200 tramadad were five thousand nanograms per milliarly higher than what 398 00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.519 she actually had in her system. So the therapeutic level 399 00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.759 for tramadol was listed up to eight hundred nano. So 400 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.119 Courtney was a little bit over the therapeutic level according 401 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.720 to doctor Brown. Now, Fred Landry was summoned by the 402 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:12.680 state to provide his testimony. During his statement, Landry disclosed 403 00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.680 that he had engaged in a sexual relationship with Courtney 404 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.599 while she was involved with her boyfriend known as Jitty. 405 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:26.279 So now you do realize that he was engaged to 406 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.400 her sister. So this is just all screwed up, a 407 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.279 freaking love triangle, quadrew whatever you want to call it, 408 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.960 a quathrupple. I don't know anyways. Heserted that he had 409 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:40.200 no connection to her death, and under cross examination, he 410 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:42.839 acknowledged that his DNA had been discovered on the trump 411 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:47.000 latch of Courtney's vehicle. Detective Sedja Green, who has been 412 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.440 involved in a case from the very beginning, also provided 413 00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:54.319 his testimony. He recounted his search for Courtney's residence and 414 00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:59.599 his conversations

with Jackie Hanson, Lonnie Melburg, and Louis Jones. 415 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.400 Lots of individuals that were confirmed to have seen Courtney 416 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.880 alive lives, and they were not rolled out as suspects. 417 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:11.839 Detective Green said that there was no evidence that implicated 418 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.160 them in Courtney's death. As well, evidence collected from the 419 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:19.160 residents indicated that Courtney, along with Hanson, Melbourne, and Jones, 420 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:23.000 had been playing dominos and using marijuana. The tap de 421 00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:25.960 green father discovered that on the evening of October first, 422 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:30.200 two thousand and four, prior to Courtney's disappearance, immage's supportany 423 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:32.920 in clothing she was wearing was later found at her home, 424 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:37.359 and additional investigation revealed that Courtney had been diagnosed with 425 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:42.279 a STD in Rapides Parish Healthy Units shortly before she disappeared. 426 00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:45.319 A letter that was addressed to Courtney from my nurse 427 00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:47.960 at the healthy Unit, dated September twenty third, two thousand 428 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.359 and four, emphasized the necessity for her sexual partner to 429 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.240 receive the same treatment as well. The name Jitty was 430 00:30:55.279 --> 00:31:00.359 handwritten on a letter indicating his role as Courtney's sexual partner. 431 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:07.640 During Cral's examination, the defense attorney inquired of Detective Green 432 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:12.000 regarding other individuals of interest related to this case, so 433 00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.000 they were trying to see that it wasn't just Fred 434 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:19.119 Landry that should be questioned in this case. He provided 435 00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:24.559 a testimony indicating that Levy Duncan visited Courtney's residents and 436 00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:29.640 he was accompanied by in Melbourne. Furthermore, on October second, 437 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.440 two thousand and four, Courtney returned home with Hampton at 438 00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.480 Jones following a Domino's game. The techt degree noted that 439 00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:40.880 prior to her disappearance, Courtney had been involved with several individuals, 440 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:44.920 including Hampton's brother Floyd Williams, who he is actually referred 441 00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:49.119 to as the President. They call him Jitty so Additionally, 442 00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:53.720 Courtney's sister, Evans, emerged as another person of interest in 443 00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:57.759 investigation for that insurance money. Detected Green and marked that 444 00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.960 Evans was uncooperative and really reluctant to engage with law enforcement. 445 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:06.680 Courtney was also romantically linked to Ernest Ville, known as Prince, 446 00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:11.119 who subsequently became a person of interest as well. Detective 447 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:14.559 Green testify that Courtney's residence had been subjected to burglary 448 00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:18.640 on at least two occasions prior to her dead, with 449 00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:22.519 law enforcement unable to identify the person responsible for that, 450 00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:26.960 and upon on turning eighteen, Courtney began to receive her 451 00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.799 inherence funds, including a want song payment of twenty thousand 452 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:33.519 dollars that started in June a, two thousand and four, 453 00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:37.160 which was depleted from her bank account the following month 454 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:41.400 in July. Now Officer William Bates, who served as a 455 00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:45.400 crime scene officer with the Alexandri Police Department for nineteen 456 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.920 years prior to his retirement, also provided testimony. He stated 457 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.680 that he conducted a search of Courtney's residence and captured 458 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.920 photographs in October of two thousand and four, following their 459 00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:00.200 discovery of her body in Texas. Officer Based reported that 460 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:04.039 all interests to that there were no indications of force entries, 461 00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.960 suggesting that the assailant either entered through an unlocked foor 462 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.880 or courtey allowed him inside. He observed that a guards 463 00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.960 can had been overturned in a kitchen and that Corney's 464 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:20.279 mattress had been moved. The lock box located under her 465 00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:25.880 bed was sound to be empty, and apparently a box 466 00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:29.599 of cigarettes was sounding that Now. Officer Bay's father testify 467 00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.680 that the last recorded use of Courtney's phone was in 468 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:36.799 Alexandria and that occurred at four thirty am on October second, 469 00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.920 two thousand and four, and her final phone call was 470 00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:43.680 made to the residents belonging to Latanya Anderson, who was 471 00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:51.319 William's girlfriend. So Janet Beyon resided in Winnie, Texas, and 472 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:55.119 served as a civilian employee at the CCS in two 473 00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:59.319 thousand and four. During her testimony, Yon indicated that she 474 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:05.640 was friends with the identific identifying witness Jude Wilson, and 475 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.719 they apparently graduated together in nineteen eighty one. She

described 476 00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:14.199 Wilson as possessing a photographic memory and being an artist. 477 00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:18.880 Now they y'all noted that Texas Price Festival was taking 478 00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:22.480 place annually on the first weekend of October, and in 479 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.679 September twenty twenty two, investigators reached out to her to 480 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.639 Empire and she recalled an incident that occurred on FM 481 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:34.280 fourteen oh six in two thousand and four. Initially, Janet 482 00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:39.000 didn't have any recollection of any such event taking place. However, 483 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:43.440 she later remembered that on October third, two thousand and four, 484 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.679 which was a Sunday and coincided with the Goat at 485 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.599 Lamb show at the Rice Festival, in which she was 486 00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.199 a chairman of. The show commenced at five PM and 487 00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.920 concluded around nine. Here al Porn and Janet returned home. 488 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:03.440 She actually passed that they have a building where Courtney's 489 00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:07.199 body was eventually discovered. She was following Wilson in her 490 00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:11.320 truck when another vehicle unexpectedly and took the space between them, 491 00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.519 so hurried up and rushed out in between the both 492 00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:18.280 of their vehicles. So Janet testified that Wilson reported the 493 00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:22.519 CNAM to the CCS. So approximately four days later. So 494 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:25.199 here we go with the questions and answers on that 495 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:29.800 cross examination. So question all right, Miss von at the 496 00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:33.400 time that he became to the Shair's office, had Corney 497 00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:37.920 Coco fighted and discovered in that building and Janet responded, no, sir, 498 00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:40.599 this was the day before. I think the body was sound, 499 00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:43.079 so we knew nothing about a body. We were just 500 00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.559 but when he came in four days later, the body 501 00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:49.639 had been found and he felt like that incremation would 502 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:54.559 be very important. Next question was that that's what I mean. 503 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.199 Let me let me be clear about the question of asking. 504 00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:01.920 She responded, okay, and he asked this question. By the 505 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.800 time that you see this almost wreck with a person 506 00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.199 you later found out to me, mister Wilson, when you 507 00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:10.679 see that, Wrett, you had no clue there was a 508 00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:14.280 body in that building, and she responded, not

at all, 509 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:18.519 no certain. He followed up with the question, mister Wilson 510 00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:21.079 comes to the Shower's office after the body is found, 511 00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.800 and she said correct. Beyon could only recall that other 512 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.800 vehicle was of a dark color. She stated in her 513 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.599 testimony that she was unaware of the body being located 514 00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:37.920 at the deserted structure due to her employment with the ccso, however, 515 00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.519 she had not considered a specific day on which the 516 00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:45.400 body was found so then he questioned the following, so, 517 00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:49.360 is there any doubt in your mind that what you observed, 518 00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.280 and they're directly between mister Wilson and this car was 519 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:56.840 on that very week end, and she responded, no doubt. 520 00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.960 So then the question was asked, was it a Pride 521 00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:03.280 Day night, Saturday night or Sunday night? She said it 522 00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:05.719 was Sunday because I went to work the next morning, 523 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:09.559 which would be Monday. Yon said she tried to write 524 00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:11.639 down the car's license plate number, but she lost the 525 00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.000 piece of painer and could not remember the license plate 526 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.880 number at the time of trial. So during cross examination, 527 00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:21.800 Beyon indicated that the Rice Festival typically commences on a Wednesday, 528 00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:26.000 if concludes on a Sunday. However, in two thousand and four, 529 00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:30.679 the festival actually extended beyond its usual duration as they 530 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.719 featured a barbecue cookoff the weekend prior. This cookoff occurred 531 00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:38.119 on Friday and Saturday, and although some teams departed on Sunday. 532 00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.000 The Defense Council presented the two thousand and four Rice 533 00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:45.840 Festival program as EPIC, which specified the festival days asset 534 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.159 Timber twenty fourth to October third, two thousand and four. 535 00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.400 They all couldnot remember it. Bilson was engaged to create 536 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:56.400 the grochures or programs for that year, and in August 537 00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:01.199 twenty twenty two, Trooper Younger reached out to Beyon, who 538 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:03.760 was at the time expressed a lack of memory darning 539 00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:08.199 the near collision involving Wilson and that unidentified veal. So 540 00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:11.719 Beyon noted that Trooper Younger referenced the Courtney Coco case, 541 00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:15.199 which she initially believed was unrelated to this, and question. 542 00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:19.719 Trooper Younger informed Beyon of the police's perspective as she 543 00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.159 was a witness to the events on October third, two 544 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.639 thousand and four, well Beyon could not confirm if Trooper 545 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.639 Younger men she Wilson's name. She stated that she did 546 00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:32.639 not have any type of communication Wilson all on her 547 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:37.000 discussion with Trooper Younger. Now, Beyon recalled that immediately after 548 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.679 her phone call when she were younger, the details of 549 00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:44.280 the incident actually came after her when Trooper Younger contacted 550 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.800 her again in September, and of prior to the trial. 551 00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.760 This is whenever she provided a comprehensive statement. So they're 552 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:56.760 pretty much trying to put this vehicle at the crime scene. 553 00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:01.559 So Beyon provided testimony indicating that individuals interviewed at the 554 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:06.119 CCSO typically proposed their statements in their own handwrite, after 555 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:08.880 which the police transcribe these statements for the witnesses. To 556 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:13.840 some she clarified that certain investigators would listen intentively while 557 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:17.679 taking those journey interview and subsequently draft the witnesses statement 558 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:21.800 based on their notes prior to requestioning the witness signature. 559 00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.039 So they was confident that the incident took place on 560 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:28.119 my third two thousand and four. She would have not 561 00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:31.679 been in a truck and trailer on any other day 562 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:38.320 during the rice festival. So Jude Wilson, who has resided 563 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:41.519 in when Hee, Texas the majority of her of his life, 564 00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.320 frequently traveled along at the fourteen oh six and the 565 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.199 statement part about his memory on the evening when they 566 00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:54.639 be your accident occurred, so they questioned him, and the 567 00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:58.639 colin's question was asked, so tell me the kind of circumstances. 568 00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.679 When was this a time of day? And he responded 569 00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.719 to it was night. And I don't remember what the 570 00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:10.239 day was exactly or anything like that. I'm terrible with 571 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:12.800 days and stuff like that, but I do remember that 572 00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:17.280 my wife had asked me to pick her some cigarettes. 573 00:40:18.280 -->

00:40:21.480 I went across the streets to Texaco, and which I 574 00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.519 knew they closed about ten o'clock. So I got there 575 00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:27.760 and then I took off and then had a bad home. 576 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:32.719 And he stated that as he was coming over the overpass, 577 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:38.880 he knows here was a core there, and then the 578 00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:43.400 attorney interrupted him and it said core where, and then 579 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:47.960 Jude responded, at this house there was an abandon house, 580 00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:51.159 so it wasn't provided testimony indicating that while he was 581 00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:55.480 traveling traveling over the overpass, he didn't observe that individual 582 00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:57.559 walking in front of the highlights up a bit before 583 00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.880 approximately ten to twelvey from that in the building in 584 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.440 question now, he said that that the individual that he 585 00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.239 saw into the big women began to reverse out of 586 00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:11.599 the driver. He also said that he had to maneuver 587 00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:14.880 his vehicle to a one collision with the car because 588 00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.679 the student was just backing out his drive body like 589 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:21.719 a bat out of hell. So he was going about 590 00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.079 fifty five to sixty thousand an hour. You know that 591 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:26.559 that he ups the portion of the vehicle's license plate, 592 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.079 identifying it as all we say in the plate featuring 593 00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:32.320 the letters Jay and W along with the number eight. 594 00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.360 When he couldn't remember the empire thing, it recalled the 595 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:39.960 letters suspectively as they corresponded to his initials. He further 596 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:43.199 testified that the driver of the vehicle accelerated and merged 597 00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:47.280 onto it ten headed towards the Houston direction. So, when 598 00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:50.800 requested to provide a description of the person he saw 599 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.159 in the driver's scene, he stated that the Christen seemed 600 00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.840 young because that's very short hair and lack of facial hair. 601 00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:02.079 He testified that the individual exhibited characteristics typical of a 602 00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:06.840 white or Caucasian person, including recular let's in the standard US. 603 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:11.679 Wilson did not view the person's face directly, but he 604 00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.519 almost saw what would appear to be like a facial 605 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:18.440 full file. Additionally, he created a map on the Rice 606 00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:22.880 festival for sure, and

distributed the growth sures. So the 607 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:26.079 next question was act so in relationship to the Rice festival, 608 00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:29.599 when is this almost right that we're talking about, And 609 00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:31.960 he responded, I couldn't tell you to ride off him 610 00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.199 because there were so many things going on. It was 611 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.000 just everything was just like a blur. So they call 612 00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.199 it up with the simon when you say so many 613 00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:43.280 things going on you mean so many things going on 614 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.719 at the Rice festal and he said yeah, at the 615 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:48.800 Rice Fescal, I was up and down the road all 616 00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:54.000 the time. So then the question was act so generally, 617 00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:59.480 when is the Rice festival? And JUNI responded it used 618 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.719 to be the the first week of October. So Wilson 619 00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.039 delayed reporting the near accident until October eighth, after learning 620 00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.039 that a body had been discovered. He had borned a 621 00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:13.079 police at the CCSO and could not recall the specificay 622 00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:16.079 at the pitsident as he had been occupied distributing the 623 00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:19.800 brochures to receive payments or his efforts. So he offered 624 00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:23.599 details concerning the individual's description and that forcial license plate 625 00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:27.000 with the BW and the number eight. And following his 626 00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.719 conversation with the police, he was given a prepared statement 627 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:34.760 to starn Wilson's written account at the CCSO. And this 628 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.800 is what that statement read. I'm gonna read it as follows. Okay, 629 00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:43.679 my name is Juge Wilson. I traveled FUM fourteen oh 630 00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:47.280 six several times. AKA there is an abandoned house on 631 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.360 FUM fourteen oh six which the body was found. I 632 00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.760 was traveling down to FM fourteen oh six. I believe 633 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.559 it was Monday, September twenty seven, two thousand and four. 634 00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:58.199 I had gone to Auerfield and I was on my 635 00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:02.199 way back to the house I believe in there before 636 00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.679 they closed. I was coming over the overpass at Inner 637 00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.280 sax Ten and I noticed that car backing out of 638 00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:11.760 disabandoned palace. I really paid attention to the car because 639 00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:13.559 it did not appear they were going to stop, and 640 00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:15.519 I thought they might back out in front of me. 641 00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:19.119 They stopped almost at the road. I noticed the car 642 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.800 was dark in color and it had Louisiana plates. I 643 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:26.159 recalled part of the license places as being JW because 644 00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:29.360 those are my initials, and it sadouts me. It appeared 645 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.360 to be an older model car because I noticed a 646 00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:35.320 tail has to be boxier than that of a modern 647 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.519 style car. It was dark inside the vehicles, so I 648 00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:42.039 could not see inside the vehicle. I did in the mirror, however, 649 00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.760 after I passed, and the vehicles traveled south on FM 650 00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.480 fourteen oh six over the bridge and headed back towards 651 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.559 the Winning area. The only other car that I have 652 00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:54.960 ever seen at disabandoned house was a white four door 653 00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:58.079 car which was approximately one month ago and this car 654 00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:01.119 also had Louisiana plates on it. When I saw the 655 00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.320 news last night on October seven, two thousand and four 656 00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.760 with description of the vehicle, there was no doubt in 657 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.000 my mind that this is the vehicle that I saw 658 00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:11.119 bucking out of the driveway of this abandoned house. So 659 00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:14.239 Wilson was not approached for going to Corney's case until 660 00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.960 a few years before the trial when a Detective Dryden 661 00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:20.840 from Alexandria Police Department reached out to him. And this 662 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:25.639 was roughly fifteen years after this whole ordeal and that 663 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.079 near accident happened, and based on his recollection, Wilson created 664 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.000 a settle butt of the individual for detective driving because 665 00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:36.199 he couldn't see the facial expressions because you know, the 666 00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:42.119 car was dark. And when Detective Dryden contacted Wilson's apart 667 00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.280 if he would be open to reviewing a photographic lineup, 668 00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:48.239 he said that he was initially kind of skeptical, but 669 00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:54.000 ultimately consented. Now drinking the photographic lineup and at trial, 670 00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:58.920 Wilson identified the defender, a white male, as an individual 671 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.760 who has been driving the vehicle that damn near applied 672 00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:07.159 into him. During cross examination, the defense attorney inquired to 673 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.519 Wilson why he had failed too much in observing the 674

00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:11.800 number eight in the license plate during any of his 675 00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:15.400 previous statements to law enforcement. Wilson responded that he informed 676 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:18.920 that ccso, but noted that this detail apparently did not 677 00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.079 make it into the statement. Additionally, the statement did not 678 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.840 include Wilson's assertion that he had seen an individual walking 679 00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:29.280 and entering the vehicle in detail he claimed to communicate 680 00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:33.000 to the police. Wilson conceded that he had signed affidavid 681 00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:35.679 affirming the truth and accuracy had the statement. However, he 682 00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:37.920 admitted that he had not reviewed the statement prior to 683 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:44.119 sign it. So that is wrong first off, especially if 684 00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:46.159 it's a legal binding document. You want to review what 685 00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:48.480 the hell's on that statement, either want to make sure 686 00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:51.119 nothing else was added on there or nothing was left 687 00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.519 out like in this case. But he found testified that 688 00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:57.039 he had never read his statement from two thousand and four, 689 00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.199 and when discussing his interactions with the detective try I did. 690 00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:03.519 In twenty twenty, the defense console question Wilson about his 691 00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:07.960 reservations for borning aphotographic lineup, and this is the following 692 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:12.599 exchange I took place. He said, he answered the following, 693 00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.480 because it's almost twenty years later and I've never done 694 00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.679 a lineup before. As I said, I did a tway 695 00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.559 in four of them and sent it to him, and 696 00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:24.840 that's when he asked me to be able to pick 697 00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:27.760 this person out out of a potential lineup, and I 698 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:32.199 didn't know whether because if if I had I've been 699 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.000 able to recognize his features, I certainly wouldn't have been 700 00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:39.159 able to participate in this lineup. So then the question 701 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:41.559 was brought up, but did you not tell Detective Dryden 702 00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:43.599 I didn't see his full face? Did you not tell 703 00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:48.760 him that? And then Jude responded, I'm sorry, can you 704 00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.639 repeat that? So then they rephrased a question did you 705 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:56.239 not tell him you did not see his full face? 706 00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:01.599 And then you have responded corrupt? So the next question 707 00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:04.079 I asked was wouldn't that be why you'd be skeptical 708 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:07.320 to pick someone out of a lineup? And he responded no, 709 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:10.039 because if if I could see a side profile of 710 00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:13.960 somebody and they had a side profile, then that would 711 00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:17.920 be acceptables as well. So then the next question was 712 00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:20.840 did they show you a side profile? They showed you 713 00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:25.599 a frontal picture of six individuals. Right, and then Jus responded, yeah, 714 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:29.320 that's correct. So then they said, so if you didn't 715 00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.199 see his full face, how could you pick him out 716 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:34.400 of a lineup? And jud responded, because I can use 717 00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:40.119 my mind and I turned him interrupted they didn't sideways 718 00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:45.159 and interrupted, Oh, so then the question was the silhouette 719 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:48.320 what regular looks in a nose? Correct? So Jus responded yes. 720 00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:53.760 So then they also questioned, regular lifts a nose that 721 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:57.079 could be justified on anybody? Am I correct? And then 722 00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:00.480 he said yes, sir. So it wasn't informed to Dryden 723 00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:03.320 that he recalled the car's license plate, including his initials, 724 00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:06.119 the JG W. And yet he did not reference to the 725 00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:09.239 number eight in this first account, so they were focused 726 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:14.039 on that right, So the Defense Council required if Wilson's 727 00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:18.400 regarding the date of the mere collision was accurate. Wasn't 728 00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:20.599 informed Detective Dryden had it took place during the week 729 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.400 of the Rights festival, and the Defense Council question why 730 00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:26.320 Wilson would have been distributing brochures on the final day 731 00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:30.440 of the festival, which den. Wilson responded that he believed 732 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.239 they had exhausted their supply brochures. He further, testiflied that 733 00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.280 he typically distributed brochures on them one of their Tuesday 734 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.599 preceding the start of the festival, so before the festivals started. 735 00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:43.440 So now the shit is trade, So why would you 736 00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:46.119 be giving up brochures about the festival or the last 737 00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:49.199 day the festivals taking place? But then he said, well, no, 738 00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.400 it was the last day before the festival took place. 739 00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:55.360 So they're trying to mix him up on his memory 740 00:49:55.519 -->

00:49:58.039 and see if they could catch him tell him lies. 741 00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:02.840 So the festival, because SA Marilyn commenced on a Friday, 742 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:06.519 continued through the following week, and concluded on that Sunday. 743 00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:08.840 So in two thousand and four, the festival actually occurred 744 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:13.119 September twenty four to October third. Courtney's body was found 745 00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:16.519 on the four, so that would be if he's saying 746 00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:21.960 that he was distributing those brochures on the last at 747 00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.239 the festival, which would be October third, and Fortney's body 748 00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:28.159 was found on the fourth, then it's just not making sense. 749 00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:31.920 So then the question was like, so the clear you 750 00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:34.599 told detectors Dryden that on a Monday or Tuesday before 751 00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.840 the festival again, which was in September, that this incident 752 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:41.079 actually happened to you. So the corps almost backing into 753 00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:45.159 am I card, he said, well that I didn't give 754 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:48.719 any dates. I thought that may that might have been 755 00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:51.079 the time, but I'm really not sure as to what 756 00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:54.000 time that was. So then they follow over the question, 757 00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:56.719 we get that, but you said it was before the festival, right, 758 00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:01.760 So Jude said, uh, yeah. So then the question was like, 759 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:04.360 did you not see this piece of evidence that said 760 00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:06.760 the festival was between the days of September twenty fourth 761 00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:10.159 and October third? Is that correct? And jud said yeah. 762 00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:14.880 So upon a redirection and examination, he acknowledged that his 763 00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.960 difficulty in recalling the specific dates, and he restated that 764 00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:21.360 he relied on the CCS SOL to accurately compile his 765 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:25.400 statement from the information he provided them, so he found 766 00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:29.159 that they did not fulfill this responsibility. Wilson expressed his 767 00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:33.679 belief that Caucasians typically have narrow noses and while individuals 768 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.880 of African American, Native of American, and Vietnamese disent intend 769 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:43.480 to have a water flatter news so this is why 770 00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:47.679 he concluded that they suspect would be white. So Clyde 771 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:51.320 Griffin provided testimony during the trials and that he encountered 772 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:55.239 Cocoa at the club on a Friday, preceding discovery of

773 00:51:55.480 --> 00:52:01.000 her body. So subsequently Saturday afternoon, he observed a man 774 00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:06.440 operating Courtney's green Pontiac, Bonneville, and Alexandria. Although Griffin recognized 775 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:09.360 the man from a previous encounter, he was unaware of 776 00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:14.239 his name. Ultimately, Griffin identified Bill as an individual that 777 00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:18.760 was driving Courtney's vehicle and at a photographic lineup. So 778 00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:25.400 Michael Paul, not Michael Michelle Paul was Courtney's aunt, and 779 00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:28.679 she testified that the family was permitted to enter Courtney's 780 00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:32.719 residence approximately eighteen days after the place I released it 781 00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:36.320 following their discovery of her body, and they said during 782 00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:39.679 this visit, Paul observed that Courtney's confident was missing from 783 00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:43.480 her bed and discovered a small number of mechanic rads 784 00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:47.440 estimated to be between six and ten. Now, why would 785 00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:52.599 Courtney have about six to ten mechanic rats in her dryer? 786 00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:58.159 So Paula's pressed the concern, recarding the unusual nature that 787 00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.679 Courtney would be washing only just six to ten rags, 788 00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:05.960 and particularly since they admitted a strong odor of bleach, 789 00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:10.159 she could not ascertain any reason for courting to possess 790 00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:15.280 mechanic shop rides. So doctor Charles Dezel was recognized as 791 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:18.480 an authority in the field of mathematics. He conducted a 792 00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:22.039 mathematical experience aiming at assessing the likelihood of a test 793 00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:28.039 subject accurately guessing specific independent variables. So he provided testimony 794 00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:31.320 indicating that the chance of the test subject correctly identifying 795 00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:34.559 two out of three letters on a license plate as 796 00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:37.480 well as recognizing it as the Louisiana plate was below 797 00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:42.519 one percent. So this probably would decrease further if the 798 00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:46.400 test subject was successfully identified as the perpetrator. In a 799 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:50.199 line of considering cross examination, doctor Bizzell said that his 800 00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:56.039 probability experience would render cross examination and he stated that 801 00:53:57.320 --> 00:53:59.920 it would be rendered invalid if the test subject had 802 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.280 her knowledge of the license plate details. As his experiment, 803 00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:08.440 the sat subject does not know the license plate. 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