התמלול המלא של Senior Bowl Preview: Scouting Top Offense Prospects

00:01:56.680 --> 00:02:00.480 the Harbass signing. Let's start with Michigan. What's it mean for Michigan? 31 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:01.799 How do you feel about your Wolverines? And then and then we'll get down 32 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:06.120 to the Chargers. I thought this was the last season, no matter what 33 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:10.000 happened with all the allegations, all the investigations. It felt like John Jim 34 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:14.319 was like, you know, I'm just gonna leave this at the doorstep. 35 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:17.199 You guys just gonna leave it out here in Michigan and I'm gonna go figure 36 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:21.960 it out in the NFL. It also kind of always felt that this team, 37 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:24.280 this was the year for them, Like it felt like they were going 38 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:28.680 to win. As soon as they were in that fourth quart against Alabama, 39 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:30.680 I was like, they're gonna win the national Championship. They went out and 40 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:34.199 they did, and Jim was like, hey, guys, I just want 41 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:38.479 a chip. After nine years at Michigan, now I'm coming to the NFL. 42 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:39.879 I'm gonna keep bringing my stuff there because the last thing I have to 43 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:44.719 do as a coach is win a super Bowl. So for Michigan, this 44 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:47.280 is just all right. Everything's in place already. I think sure Moore is 45 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:51.960 gonna take over as the head coach. Most people assume that as of now. 46 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:55.520 The more interesting thing that I'm I'm looking forward to is what this means 47 00:02:55.520 --> 00:03:00.680 for mintor It looks like Jim's gonna try to take mintor with him to the 48 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:06.039 Chargers. And we know that tree of defensive coordinators that came down from the 49 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:10.960 Baltimore side with Mike McDonald, who has been fantastic. There is probably gonna 50 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:15.199 miss out on a head coaching job this cycle because he's still coaching right now. 51 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:19.240 But next cycle he's gonna be a really, really hot name if he 52 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:23.840 doesn't get one this time around. And we know that Minter did a fantastic 53 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:30.560 job in the playoff both against Alabama and Washington, excuse me, So that's 54 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:34.520 gonna have a huge impact on the Chargers. So at least for Michigan. 55 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:38.960 I don't think it directly impacts a ton. I also kind of secretly think 56 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:40.639 that Jim was like, you, guys, if you're coming here to play 57 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:44.159 for Michigan, just know that next year you're not playing for me. I'm 58 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.879 not going to be here. I think that he always meant to leave after 59 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:50.719 the twenty twenty three seasons. So that's what I think about Michigan. What 60 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:53.319 do you think this means for the Charger side of things. I think it's 61 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:57.319 a really interesting hire. I think it's a smart hire. I think Jim 62 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:01.800 Harball wins wherever he goes, team has seemingly, and I don't have the 63 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:06.199 stats right in front of me, but seemingly has lost every close game that 64 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:10.800 they've played it over the last few years. It sure seems like it comes 65 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:14.159 down to the last drive, to the last field goal. They're one touchdown 66 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.759 behind something, and they just can't finish it off. I'm an Oregon guy, 67 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:19.319 you're a Michigan guy. They've got Justin Herbert down there, and now 68 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:24.240 they're gonna have Jim Harbaugh. And if it wasn't for you being a Chiefs 69 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:26.879 fan, I think he'd probably be rooting for a little more success for Jim. 70 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:29.839 But I think it's gonna be a really interesting fit in terms of what 71 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:33.120 he can do with Justin Herbert. I feel like it's gonna be a little 72 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:36.000 bit more of a conservative approach. I think that he's gonna want to make 73 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:42.439 this kind of how he likened his Michigan team, right, super physical, 74 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.639 really good on defense, really good in the trenches. They're gonna shore up 75 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:47.560 that offensive line. I feel like that's probably gonna be one of his first 76 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:51.600 directives going into this class and going into to the draft season and be like, 77 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:57.199 hey, we've got to fix offensive line and then naturally, I mean 78 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:01.399 Blake Korum in like late day two to the Chargers has to be basically written 79 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:03.839 in pen. At this point, they already filled out that card. They're 80 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:09.000 just waiting for when they can submit it. But it's gonna be really interesting 81 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:11.199 to see how it goes. Justin Herbert, for as good as he is, 82 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:15.720 and he's really really good at times, doesn't pick his spots right, 83 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:18.759 needs to know kind of when to just make the easy throw. And I 84 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:23.439 think that he's going to tailor an offense or whoever is in charge of the 85 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.839 offense. But I think the Charges offense is going to resemble a lot of 86 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:30.160 what we saw in Michigan in terms of easy completions, getting it out quick. 87 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:31.879 Kind of what we've seen around the league for a lot of

the really 88 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:38.560 successful quarterbacks is a lot of these dialed up quick hits and then allowing them 89 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:42.040 to create outside of that. That's kind of what I feel like we're going 90 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:46.399 to see for Justin Herbert. Mitigate the risk, play and control, know 91 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.920 when to take your shots, and when we're building towards it right like this 92 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:55.279 this series of plays we're setting it up, you'll get your shot, But 93 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:59.480 it's first and ten on the opposing forty. You don't need to roll right 94 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.000 and throw your body like, let's tone it down a little bit. I 95 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.040 think it's gonna be a really good fit. I think they're gonna win some 96 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:10.399 games. They're going to be competitive. I think any Jim Harbaugh team is 97 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.120 going to be competitive, and I'm really curious to see what they can do 98 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:15.639 in your one. Yeah, I think when I'm looking at what Jim Harbaugh 99 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.000 has done in his past and his coaching career, I'm looking at Stanford, 100 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:23.480 I'm looking at him with Andrew Luck, that type of talent at quarterback. 101 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:28.439 Now, I'm not saying that Herbert is Andrew Luck. I think that there's 102 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:31.800 a little bit of a difference with his physicality and his athletic ability in the 103 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:35.319 run game. Now, Herbert can run the ball. He's not a bad 104 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:39.600 athlete at all. I think he's very underrated in that aspect. So I'm 105 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:44.120 hoping with this change in offensive philosophy philosophy that we're going to see that it 106 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:46.480 does allow him to be get out a little bit more, use your legs 107 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.519 a little bit more, because you again, he's a big, a good 108 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:53.720 athlete, at running at the quarterback position, so I think that there's always 109 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:57.000 a little bit more you can get out of Herbert in these situations. But 110 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:00.439 I am looking directly at that Stanford team. They're gonna play tough, hard 111 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:02.879 knows football. They're gonna run the ball very very well, very efficiently, 112 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:06.639 and at the end of the day, they're gonna put the ball in Herbert's 113 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:10.879 hands in those games, those big games, and say, go win us 114 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.480 the football game. Make the right decision to win those games. I mean, 115 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:15.879 for some of us, we're gonna have some fantasy listeners in here as 116 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:19.000 well. I'm sure I don't think it's gonna be a lot of top five 117 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:25.480 finishes for Justin Herbert at the quarterback position. But for Chargers fans, at 118 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:28.759 the end of the day, like you're talking about, Jim Harbaugh wins football 119 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.160 games. He turned the San Francisco Fort Ninitars around in three years, had 120 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:34.920 them in a Super Bowl. This is a team that if they can figure 121 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:40.000 out the injury bug, whatever happens in LA with the injuries there, if 122 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.160 they can figure that out, and Jim Harbaugh can just kind of bring in 123 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.480 everything that he wants, because I assume he's gonna be like a CEO where 124 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:51.240 the reporting to him essentially where you're drafting who I want, I'm telling you 125 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:54.720 what to do. I feel like that's how we're gonna see it, and 126 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:58.519 by all accounts, all reports, that's exactly how Jim Harbaugh wants it to 127 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:01.959 be and will be. So I'm excited for the Chargers fans because even as 128 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:05.319 a Chiefs fan, I love Justin Herbert. I love him. I think 129 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:09.560 he's a fantastic player, and I do feel bad at times because they get 130 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:16.439 so much hype and so much talent and they fizzle every single year. There's 131 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:18.199 a reason they say, oh, the Charger are just gonna charger, because 132 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:24.279 they charger every year. This season going forward with Jim harbout the helm feels 133 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:26.920 like it's gonna be very different for the Chargers. I'm really curious to see 134 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.080 what they do. This roster is very interesting because they have some blue chip 135 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.320 talents on that roster, right. You know they have Boso, we know 136 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.559 they have Derwin James. Is this seeming to be able to keep one or 137 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:43.399 both or none of Mike Williams and Keenan Allen? Are they going to have 138 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.000 to move on? There? They're in a really bad cap situation. So 139 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.360 are they going to be able to bring those guys back? I don't know. 140 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.480 They have the fifth overall pick, and I think they're in a really 141 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:56.840 really interesting spot looking at the NFL Draft, and we'll get to it a 142 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:01.480 little bit more later on, but the draft kind of feels like it starts 143 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:05.360 at five a little bit right now in a sense, the top four, 144 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:07.840 I think we have a pretty good idea of what's gonna happen early. It's 145 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:13.360 only January and things

could absolutely change. But as of right now, the 146 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:18.120 Charges of the first one where they could go offensive line, they could go 147 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.919 wide receiver. Hell, they could spring for Brock Bowers. It might be 148 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:26.759 a little bit rich, but he's an elite playmaker that's gonna also help a 149 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:28.799 little bit in the run game. Also, I think that Jim Harball loves 150 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:33.200 his tight ends. I can absolutely see Bowers being on his list. They 151 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:37.600 could go defensive back, they could go a variety of different ways, they 152 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.159 could go pass us. There's so many things that this team needs that it's 153 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.879 really I think gonna get interesting at what the Charges decide to do. And 154 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:48.799 I think free agency is gonna tell us a lot if they lose out on 155 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:54.639 both Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. If both of them are gone, it 156 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.240 sure seems like they're probably going playmaker with fifth overall or they're gonna be a 157 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.159 candidate to trade down. Yeah, I think that what we're gonna see Mike 158 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:07.360 Williams Bye bye. You have been replaced essentially by you know, Quentin Johnston, 159 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:09.240 who did not develop last year very much. And I think that with 160 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:13.600 a new coach, you're gonna see a little bit different uh tech uh techniques 161 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.879 in development in these in these prospects. So there's a lot of talent in 162 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:18.799 him. They just got to get it out of him. I think we're 163 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:24.639 gonna see a restructure of my Keenan Allen's contract of some sort, because you 164 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.200 can't lose both. Keenan Allen is the bona fide number one and the one 165 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.960 guy in that team that has the most trust from Justin Herbert. You don't 166 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.039 take both of those players away in one offseason and say, hey, Justin, 167 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:37.720 work with what I give you. You do it a little bit at 168 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:41.519 a time. Keenan Allen proved last year he's still an elite wide receiver, 169 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:45.879 especially route runner and guy that can just consistently get open. So they're gonna 170 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:46.759 find a way to keep him. In my mind, I don't think you 171 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.480 let both go. But like I said, outside of that, Joey Bosa 172 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.080 multiple multiple seasons. Now he's been hurt, he's on the chopping block. 173 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:58.440 Who knows what happens there. So yeah, defensive back, wide receiver, 174 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:03.600 defensive end, all these are on the table. And again maybe Jim's just 175 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:07.720 like, hey, we're gonna try to acquire some picks. Maybe his quarterback 176 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:11.600 JJ McCarthy sitting there at five and everyone's like, hey, we come up 177 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:13.679 everyone. So he's gonna say this is the best quarterback Michigan's ever had. 178 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.600 Come get him. We'll try down a little bit. It's gonna be a 179 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:18.679 lot of fun. I'm excited to see what they do because, like you 180 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.720 said, there's so many different ways they could go, and this team has 181 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:26.799 talent ingrained in it still some of this young talent. So it's very very 182 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.600 interesting to see what happens. It is. I feel like playmaker has to 183 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:35.799 be a top priority. I feel like, if I'm putting odds on it 184 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:41.240 right now, they're going to playmaker on the offensive league neighbors. If the 185 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:46.360 league neighbors with Justin Herbert, that would just be an incredible pair that you 186 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:48.480 can build around for years. And it'd be great even if you keep Keenan 187 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:52.519 Allen, You've got a loaded wide receiver room ready to go. It would 188 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:56.919 be a terrific pick. We'll see what happens. The reason why we're saying 189 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:01.600 that the first four picks seem a little chalky right now is because of this 190 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:07.759 guy that we're gonna talk about in the stngkstep segment. We are going with 191 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:15.759 LSU quarterback Heisman Trophy winner Jaden Daniels, who is lying up draft boards. 192 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.240 And I know that we've only recorded four episodes together five if you include the 193 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.960 one at Jim Naggy, but we've already been talking about how quarterbacks get pushed 194 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.679 up the board seemingly every single year, right That was one of the things 195 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:28.240 we talked about, I think, in the very first episode that we recorded. 196 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:31.919 And now here we go, the mock drafts are coming out from everybody, 197 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.279 from mel Kiper, from Daniel Jeremiah, from Bucky Brooks, from everyone, 198 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.240 and in basically every mock draft, you've got quarterback going at the first 199 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:46.399 three picks and that third quarterback in some combination is Jade and Daniels. Sometimes 200 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:50.759 Jayden Daniels going as the number two overall pick, I Drake May going number 201 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.519 three. So Jaden Daniels get a lot of love right now, What do 202 00:12:54.559 -->

00:13:01.759 you make of it? So Jade and Daniels against going higher than a guy 203 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.840 like Drake May doesn't fit for me personally when I think that we're hearing right 204 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:11.360 now, there's a lot of smoke that we are getting into prime smoke screen 205 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:15.519 season. Especially with as many quarterbacks that have been talked about going in the 206 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.519 first round. Agents are going to be, well, my guy wants it, 207 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:20.399 might be drafted it too. They'll no, my guy might be drafted 208 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:22.720 it too, because most of these people aren't saying, well, they're going 209 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:28.440 to go over Kaylen Williams. Maybe Drake may get some of that conversation. 210 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:31.919 But at the end of the day, Jane Daniels did a hell of a 211 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:33.679 lot to improve his draft sotock this season, not just by winning the Heisman, 212 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:39.200 but showing off his dual threat ability the downfield passing. Obviously, when 213 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.159 you have Brian Thomas Junior and Malik Neighbors, you have a lot of space 214 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.799 to work with. So those guys can really stretch the field. That can 215 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.879 give you a lot of space as an athlete, but he is a legitimate 216 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:54.440 athlete. He uses his running ability to kind of set up his elements of 217 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:56.519 the past game, right, you can do that. You can use the 218 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:01.080 quarterback run game to force linebackers to be a little more hesitant or even you 219 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:05.080 know, safeties and corners to be a little bit more hesitant in there the 220 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:07.360 way they play. So the one thing that the things that I'm really kind 221 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:11.399 of more concerned about. It's kind of the same with Michael Pennix. They 222 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.559 don't like to throw the ball over the middle of the field, and when 223 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:20.440 they do, you have some sporadic ball placement errors, not necessarily accuracy errors. 224 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.639 There's a difference between accuracy and ball placement. Just accuracy is throwing it 225 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:28.240 to the receiver right as long as it's there, that's quote unquote accurate. 226 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:31.679 But ball placement in stride, behind, in the chest, in the hands, 227 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.159 too high, too low, all of that stuff is erratic. The 228 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:39.720 ball placement form over the middle of the field is very inconsistent, and we 229 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.720 see that a lot with wide receivers. Specifically Molik neighbors adjusting try to catch 230 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:46.840 the ball that's behind him down down low a little bit at times, or 231 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:52.919 even up high. He misses all of those just in kind of consensual order, 232 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.200 all the different times. So that's a little bit I'm concerned about. 233 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:00.480 And then when the play breaks down in the pocket, he's I'm seeing an 234 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.360 excellent quarterback getting out and making plays happen. But if you stay in your 235 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:07.000 pass rush lands and you keep him inside the pocket, his eyes they come 236 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:11.440 down, he gets a little he gets I'm not gonna say scared, but 237 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:16.480 it's it's you You can see that when pressure is in his face and he 238 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:18.799 has to make a play from the pocket or a second reaction throw from the 239 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:24.240 pocket. It's not anywhere near the top end that we see where he's just 240 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.399 standing in the pocket or he's on the move making a play down the field 241 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:31.120 and his arm strength deliberately comes down because you know you're gonna get hit and 242 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:35.320 things like that. So I think that Jayden Daniels, the talk in the 243 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:37.440 top three is a little bit rich even for me. Still, I don't 244 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:41.000 have a top fifteen great on Jayden daniel think he's a fantastic player. And 245 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:46.080 we know that drafts always drive up these quarterback prospects and they're going to I 246 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:50.360 think Jayden is gonna get selected in the top five. I think he's going 247 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:52.759 to. It's all a matter of who's gonna do it. But right now 248 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:58.799 we're seeing this guy again. Leader won the Heisman Trophy and is an electric 249 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:03.240 player on the ground, just is and that's very useful in the NFL right 250 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:06.440 now, So it's not surprising to me we're talking about it right now and 251 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:11.840 stocks up. Jaden Daniels has two thy and nineteen rushing yards and twenty one 252 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:18.840 rushing touchdowns in his last two seasons as quarterback. Yeah, of LSU, 253 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.879 it's insane the status that he has on the ground. Think about Jadan Daniels. 254 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:27.519 There's a lot of things about Jaden Daniels, but fifty year senior transfer 255 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:33.320 from ASU took a while to develop, and I think there's arguments that go 256 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:36.960 both ways for that. In terms of quarterbacks at the collegiate level, you 257 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:41.960 love your true early declare junior quarterback wonder kid like Caleb Williams coming out. 258 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:47.519 There's also

something to be said though about Jaden Daniels having as many starts as 259 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:49.480 he has had at the college level. It gives you a maturity, It 260 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:53.919 gives you more understanding, more reps under your belt. And yeah, he 261 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:56.200 came on a little bit late, but guess what, so did Joe Burrow 262 00:16:56.279 --> 00:17:02.279 also at LSU. Sometimes it just happens where you have these players that take 263 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:04.039 a little bit longer. Sometimes it's a transfer. We're seeing it more and 264 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:07.640 more now, I mean the transfer portal. Getting a quarterback that's going to 265 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:11.799 play three straight years as a starter at the college level for one school anymore, 266 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:15.839 it seems like it's going to be harder and harder to come by, 267 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.799 So you can't really hold that against him. I agree with what you were 268 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:23.559 saying about some of the knocks in terms of ball placement, arm strength when 269 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:26.160 he is trying to make a throw on the run that can slip a little 270 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:30.640 bit. But it reminds me of the narratives surrounding Anthony Richardson a little bit 271 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:34.759 last year. Very different. Anthony Richardson had very few starts. Jane Daniels 272 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:38.720 has a lot of seats, but it's an athletic. It's a mobile quarterback 273 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:45.279 that can win on the ground, that's flying up draft boards that is a 274 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.279 dynamic playmaker, and he's a different prototype than the other quarterbacks that are in 275 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:55.160 the top of the draft class. Caleb Williams is electric and a playmaker and 276 00:17:55.279 --> 00:18:00.279 extends plays with his eyes up looking to make it insane throat yeh. Jayden 277 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.759 Daniels extends plays with his legs and if it breaks down, I kind of 278 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.920 get the feeling that his first instinct is tuck and run and that he's gonna 279 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:08.920 take off and he knows that he can win with his legs, so he's 280 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:12.359 gonna utilize that. Can't fault him for it. Both of those type of 281 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:17.559 quarterbacks can succeed at the next level. And then you have Drake May underrated 282 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:21.720 athlete also like what you're talking about Justin Herbert earlier, who also can can 283 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:23.240 give you some production on the ground. I see a lot of Justin Herbert 284 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:26.920 actually when I look at Drake May, like they're very similar prospects to me 285 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:32.160 and everything about their game. But it's it's all gonna come down to prototype. 286 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:36.359 It's going to come down to what do these teams value. Is it 287 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:41.559 a team that is willing to take that electric running quarterback or is that a 288 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.839 risk for them that they don't want to invest in. He's listed at six 289 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.960 three one eighty five. I don't know if he's north of six' to 290 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.200 two. I don't know if he's north the one to eighty. I'm very 291 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:55.880 curious to see what the measurements are going to come in at when when we 292 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:59.440 get to can we just quickly talk about how he acts when he gets hit 293 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:07.480 to a car? Okay, have you ever dropped a mento into a dat 294 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:14.359 coat and watched it just explode? That's what he looks like when he gets 295 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:17.960 hit, and that's gonna scare the crap out of some NFL teams. So 296 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:19.039 like, dude, you're electric, and we love it. We love your 297 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:23.839 playmaking ability, but you can't take hits like this, not in the NFL. 298 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:26.960 I mean, there's times where he gets hit and like all four limbs 299 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:33.920 just like go, he's starfishes in the air and it's it's scary. So 300 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:37.240 that's that's definitely a concern. But the electric playmaking is there. He just 301 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:41.839 won the Heisman. The production is there, made a lot of great crazy 302 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:45.279 throws, very accurate deep down the field when he has time to throw. 303 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:49.119 There's a lot to like about Jayden Daniels, and I do think I think 304 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.559 it's a I think it's a legitimate thing that we might go one, two, 305 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:55.680 three quarterback in a couple months. Yeah, it's definitely not out of 306 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:57.839 the question, especially in this draft class. You know, last year's draft 307 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:03.599 class was people were surprised by Anthony Richardson. I don't think that people should 308 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:08.000 be surprised by Jaden Daniels. These athletic, electric playmakers are going to be 309 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:11.640 driving up draft boards, especially if they can combine them with the with the 310 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:17.559 play caller, you know, Shane Stiken perfect fit for exactly what Anthony Richardson 311 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:19.440 wants to do and how they want to run their offense. So if we 312 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:25.160 look at three, I'm not necessarily thinking that the New England Patriots are the 313 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:30.519 ideal location for a run heavy quarterback that's a really good athlete. And I 314 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:33.279 know that Cam Newton played there, but that was Cam Newton

after his prime, 315 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:37.480 right, Like, it wasn't exactly what we're expecting. So I'm interested 316 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:41.480 to see what's gonna happen. But like you said, he's definitely flying up 317 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:45.119 for good reason. With the athletic traits and these quarterbacks. Now everyone kind 318 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:48.680 of has to be able to run. The quarterback scramble has become the most 319 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:52.960 efficient play in football, and that's just going to continue to get better as 320 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:57.759 defenses try to stop really good at wide receivers that continue to get funneled into 321 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:02.960 the NFL. It's going to make that even more more important that guys can 322 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:07.200 continue to take advantage of those spaces and take those scrambles. So yeah, 323 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:11.759 definitely within the round possibilities we see one two three, maybe one two three 324 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.480 four, I don't know. It's gonna be interesting. It will be interesting. 325 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:17.720 Quarterbacks get pushed up every year. Like we've said a lot. We 326 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:19.240 also have no idea who the offensive coordinator is going to be right now for 327 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:22.799 the Patriots. Yeah, I think that hire is going to tell us a 328 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:26.799 lot about what they could potentially be looking like. So it's going to be 329 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.799 a fascinating conversation. We got a couple of months still. Oh, I 330 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:32.720 love it. I love this time of year. It's going to be so 331 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:34.759 fun speaking of things that we love in this time of year. Senior Bowl 332 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:40.319 in five days. This episode is our last one before we get there, 333 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:44.519 so it's our last opportunity to throw some names at you. And give you 334 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:48.000 a couple of scouting reports and some players that we feel like need a little 335 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:51.119 bit more love. So this time we're going offensive side of the ball. 336 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:52.839 Last week we did defense. If you haven't watched that episode, go back. 337 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:56.079 We talked about some really great players on the defensive side of the ball 338 00:21:56.359 --> 00:22:00.279 that are going to be impact players at the next level. There is no 339 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.359 shortage of impact players on the offensive side of the ball either, And we're 340 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:07.240 not even talking about a couple of the more well known names that you're gonna 341 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.759 hear. We tried to highlight a variety some top tier names, some that 342 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.519 are maybe sliding under the radar, and we're going to get into a couple

343 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:17.880 of them. You go ahead and start with your first one. Here, 344 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:21.920 who do you want to dive into? So I would I like to start 345 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:25.440 with some of the lesser known offensive linemen. Offensive line is one of my 346 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:30.119 one of my favorite places to scout, specifically, you know, tackle, 347 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:33.319 I do all of it, but tackle is my favorite. And this guy 348 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:37.640 from Kansas is really fun to watch because he does a lot of things. 349 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:44.799 He's actually started as a volleyball player. His trajectory is very different from a 350 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:48.960 a lot of people, but the dominic Pooney tackle out of Kansas, number 351 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:52.359 sixty seven. He played left tackle, started all the twelve games for them 352 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:56.759 this season, after playing guard the year before and starting all twelve games there. 353 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:00.519 So we have positional versatility right off the bat, and I love positional 354 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.519 versatility at tackle. And you didn't notice that he was a guard beforehand. 355 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.640 Very good athlete. He gets into space well. And the one thing that 356 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:11.920 I noticed is that he at Kansas is more of a jump setter at a 357 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:15.359 tackle. You don't see a lot of forty five You don't see almost any 358 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:19.279 vertical pass sets at all. And the difference there is that the jump set 359 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:23.559 you're jumping towards your pass rusher, the guy you're trying to catch him by 360 00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:27.319 surprise, and then the forty five draw forty five degree angle you try to 361 00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:30.920 get into that spot and the vertical is just straight back, so you don't 362 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.799 see any vertical at all. You see a ton of jump sets there and 363 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.279 very attacking in the past pro and when it comes to pass protection, you 364 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:41.240 have to be able to work your hands. He works his hands quite a 365 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:45.279 bit. You do see him open his shoulders early. He does tend to 366 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:48.759 do that. And that invites inside counters, and I think that he's done 367 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.119 a good job of adding that inside hand in the chest. And when you 368 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:56.119 can locate that inside hand in the chest, when you do open your shoulders 369 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.680 a little bit much, you can kind of use it as an anchor to 370 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.680 bring your shoulders back right, Like you keep that inside hand. Yeah, 371 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:06.200 keep the hand of the inside and when they try that inside counter, it 372 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:07.640 brings your shoulders with him, and then you can bring your feet with him. 373 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.799 So he's done a good job of adding that to his arsenal. And 374 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:14.680 his hips are really good. Like I said, getting to the second level, 375 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:17.160 this guy can pull as a tackle. You love to see that. 376 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:21.920 The versatility again from being able to pull his guard, he adds that as 377 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:26.440 a tackle as well. So some of these power gap concept schemes that like 378 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:29.839 to move their tackles or run counter with tight ends and tackles like that, 379 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.039 you can move him as well. And the experience. You know, he's 380 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:36.240 a senior, He's started a ton of games in his career, so he 381 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:38.599 has a ton of playing experience. And he was really really good this year 382 00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:42.480 for Kansas. Obviously, you don't see him going up against the top premier 383 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:48.400 defensive ends in college football. But he's gonna get He's gonna get some reps 384 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:52.440 this this week, this next week against some excellent pass rushers. So he's 385 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:55.599 going to get an opportunity to showcase that he can play tackle in the NFL. 386 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:57.960 But I think that right now, based off of what I've seen from 387 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:02.920 him, he's a a guy who can push himself into Day two of the 388 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:06.400 draft with a good showing at Mobile and that's going to be very, very 389 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:10.559 impressive because we know that tackle at the top is very good. This can 390 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:14.640 be a nice deep tackle class as well. Some teams that need to get 391 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.160 wide receiver or even defense first, you're going to find some guys here on 392 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:19.799 Day two and Day three, and I think that Pooney is in a position 393 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.319 to put himself right in that conversation on Day two. I'm probably a third 394 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:27.079 round pick. I have him as a fourth round grade right now, but 395 00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:33.039 he's definitely coming up in what he can do. He's one of those names, 396 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.799 like all these guys. It's a great opportunity when you get to go 397 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:40.160 down to the Senior Bowl and get in front of so many scouts and coaching 398 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:44.960 staffs and everything, and with the mixed up coaching system that they have down 399 00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:48.920 their network. It's not just one team that sends their coaches down and coaches 400 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.839 each unit. You have coaches from all different teams around the

league. I 401 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.720 think Jim Naggy told us it was eighteen teams that are being represented and coaches 402 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.920 in Mobile this year. You have so many different coach is that can take 403 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:07.720 information and insights in person, first hand experience back to their war rooms to 404 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:11.559 discuss draft picks. Make a good impression. It can go a long ways. 405 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.720 Poti is one of those guys. I love his athleticism. I love 406 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:18.880 his mobility. He is a maler when when he's in the run game too, 407 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:21.359 and that's something that I really enjoy. He's happy to do the dirty 408 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:26.200 work. I am concerned, like you said, about some of his some 409 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.400 of his like over setting tendencies to the outside. I think that is an 410 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.960 area where he does leave himself a little bit open to exposure. But he 411 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.759 does have athleticism to recover a little bit. So it's going to be interesting 412 00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:42.599 the reps that he does have against against top defensive ends down there and Mobile 413 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:45.640 and see how he's able to handle some of those calendars. Yeah, I'm 414 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.319 excited to see him, and I think that, you know, just getting 415 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.000 some of this experience with the coaching, and that's like the one thing I'm 416 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:53.720 really looking forward to is the coaching that these players get. How do they 417 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:56.680 handle it, how do they take it from day one to day two to 418 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:00.759 day three in practice and really use it to their advantage. Because if you 419 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.799 can be coachable, now, that's gonna help them draft you, mold you, 420 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.240 and you can get even better in the NFL. Yeah, completely agree. 421 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.720 I'm gonna stay on the offensive line with my next name. Also, 422 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:14.200 Yeah, I'm a little bit of a homer, but I don't care. 423 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.039 It's Jackson Powers Johnson. It's the center out of Oregon, baby JPJ. 424 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:22.480 I love him so much. He was a true leader at center for this 425 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:27.480 offensive line. He's a great communicator. He's great at dissecting what defenses are 426 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:33.440 trying to do. He's got great hands. He is very dominant both in 427 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.079 run and pass protection, which is something that I love about him. He 428 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:44.000 had three and thirty seven snaps in his college career. He allowed two hurries, 429 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:48.960 zero hits, zero sax in over thirteen hundred reps. He is going 430 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.359 to be a rock solid day one starter on the interior of the offensive line, 431 00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:56.720 whether you wanted to play center or you wanted to play card and he's 432 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.720 going to contribute both to the run game and the passing game. I love 433 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:04.000 him so much. Like he's an incredible interior offensive line. He's physical, 434 00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:08.640 he's gritty. He just looks like a guy that can be a starting center 435 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.640 in the NFL for a decade. Like I just I love the game that 436 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.720 Jackson powers. Johnson brings. There isn't much else to say about him. 437 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:21.240 He's a fantastic player. He won the Remington Award at twenty years old. 438 00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:25.200 And last maybe like last season, he was a full time starter for the 439 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:30.680 first time in his career and he only allowed one pressure. One that's it's 440 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.519 a singular pressure. As a full time starting center for the first time. 441 00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:38.480 He's incredible, and I do think he's going to be an anchor at center 442 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.680 for a very long time. We're gonna be talking about him as one of 443 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.759 the best centers in the NFL in the next five years. Mark my words 444 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.799 fold and I love it. I completely agree. I think he's It's it's 445 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.480 funny we're looking at you know, Jason Kelcey phasing out of the NFL, 446 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.640 and then here comes Jackson Powers Johnson, and I'm looking at and I'm just 447 00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.200 going, You've got that in you to be that kind of center that has 448 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:04.720 such an impact in all phases of the game. He's gritty, he's durable, 449 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:10.160 he's physical, he's athletic. He is just a contributor. You know, 450 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:14.559 we have some verified measurements on players, some not yet everything. We 451 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:17.759 will have verified numbers next week down a mobile. Yeah, listed at six 452 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:21.200 three three twenty. I think he checks out to be around there. I 453 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:25.240 don't think there's any any difference that's gonna really pop off that's gonna make it 454 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:27.359 a difference. Binding means he's got plenty of size, plenty of tenacity. 455 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:30.519 He's an anchor. I love him. It's gonna be great and it's gonna 456 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.400 be fun watching him snap it to his guy Poe Nicks down there too. 457 00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:37.759 Dude, I can't wait to see where he goes. Honestly, because center 458 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.079 play in the NFL very very underrated.

Talking about Jason Kelsey, Creed Humphrey, 459 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.519 some of the best centers in the NFL and the over the last couple 460 00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.119 of seasons. You know, their teams have been in the end here and 461 00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:49.960 Create has been, in my opinion, the best center in football. Jason's 462 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.920 been excellent, but I think the Creed's now taken over as the best center 463 00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:59.119 in football. And we're gonna see some incredible centers over the next few years. 464 00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:03.920 Tyler linderb right now at you know in Baltimore, We're gonna see him 465 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.000 versus you know, Create Humphrey. Like, this is a fantastic young group 466 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:11.720 of centers that we're gonna be talking about. But I'm gonna go next to 467 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.400 the guy who catches a snap or takes a snap from those centers. Quarterback 468 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:19.960 Spencer Rattler out of South Carolina. Now, a lot of people got off 469 00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:23.480 the Spencer Ratlers right after his first year at Oklahoma or a second year at 470 00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:26.799 Oklahoma, really after he showed all of the flashes and things like that. 471 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.319 Then he's like, fine, you guys don't want me here, transfer to 472 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.599 South Carolina. I'll figure it out there. Problem is, the offensive line 473 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:38.839 is so bad that he literally had to do it, literally had to do 474 00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:44.319 everything himself. He had to do all of it himself. So against Georgia, 475 00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:45.960 you're watching him and he's you know they're trying to get the ballt of 476 00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.599 his hands quick initially, and then you know they're down. So Spencer's like, 477 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:52.279 fine, I have to do all this myself. When I watched him, 478 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:57.640 he might have this might be a hot take. He might have the 479 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:04.319 most efficient and smoothest throwing motion in the draft. I think it's incredibly smooth. 480 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:10.119 There was zero wasted movement, zero wasted anything. It's quick. It's 481 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:15.680 snappy, like he can move his lower body and his upper body so quickly 482 00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.599 to get that ball out. It's amazing to watch. There's gonna be some 483 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.720 things about his game that aren't quite there yet. But then from last year 484 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.640 to this year, he did improve his decision making. I saw far more 485 00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:32.440 throwaways, natural throwways, not trying to force a throw that didn't have to. 486 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:37.759 I think that he trust the trust with his receivers. Outside of Xavier 487 00:31:37.839

--> 00:31:41.480 Lagette, who were also going to get to watch it the Cedier Bowl was 488 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.839 not there. He trusted one guy and it was Leget and for a good 489 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.519 reason. He's a fantastic player, So there's some of that as well. 490 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.079 He has a tendency to hold onto the ball in the pocket and lock in 491 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.640 his receivers. Again, might be more to do with the offense and the 492 00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.559 playmakers surrounding him. Saw tons of drops as well, but he can make 493 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:06.759 the offensive line right. Great athlete, We'll say, maybe good to great. 494 00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.759 We'll find out how good of an athlete is he. He's good getting 495 00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.960 out of the pocket. When he does sense that pressure and gets out, 496 00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:15.799 he can make those guys miss and then take it. He's not gonna like 497 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:20.640 blow you away with speed like we saw Jade and Daniels. But right now 498 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:25.359 I'm Spencer Ratler is flying up boards my board specifically, I think he's a 499 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.559 really good player. I also agree with Jim Naggy's tweet earlier. I think 500 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:32.240 he's gonna get drafted on Day two and I think he's going to be a 501 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:37.240 starter in the NFL before too long. Just needs a little bit of seasoning. 502 00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:42.680 So I'm very excited to watch him this week. He's fascinating because early 503 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.480 early on in the college career, and even when he was like a freshman 504 00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:51.640 coming up out of high school and everything, there was so much hype around 505 00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.759 Spencer, Around Spencer Ratler, he was the next coming of you know, 506 00:32:55.160 --> 00:33:00.319 Pat Mahomes, basically that smooth stroke that you're talking about, though he has 507 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:06.039 always had that when he always wants to let it fly. His his mechanism 508 00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:12.440 is beautiful. Spencer Rattler reminds me a little bit of matt Stafford in the 509 00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.480 sense that he thinks that he can make every single throw on the field. 510 00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:22.599 He doesn't have Stafford's yet, he doesn't have the Howitz sort of back it 511 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:24.359 up on it. I'm going to. I'm just letting you know, I 512 00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.640 take the back half out and just be like Spencer Rattler reminds me of Matthew 513 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:37.079 Stafford. John John holmekamps mentions are going to explode and I'll be blocking people 514 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.200 for three weeks or months or whatever. No, I'm not saying he's Stafford, 515 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:45.160 but in the sense that he looks at throws sometimes and he goes, 516 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:46.880 I can hit that, and it's like you really can't though, like you're 517 00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:51.559 late to it. It's you know, it's something that has already passed the 518 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.079 opportunity for you to tread to lay it in there. And he just he 519 00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:59.480 believes in his own arm so much, and that could be a detriment to 520 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:02.839 him. He's got to learn his own limitations. And I think that's one 521 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.960 of the main reasons why he's not being talked about as a first round quarterback 522 00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.239 or in early first Who knows, You never know what happens at the back 523 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:14.400 of the first and people like a player and want that fifth year option. 524 00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.760 You never know. But he's not in the top tier of the quarterbacks in 525 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:22.440 this draft class basically for that reason. In my opinion, he trusts himself 526 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:28.440 too much and he doesn't have incredible arm talent. Yeah, I mean I 527 00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.719 disagree slightly with the arm talent. I think it's up there. Again, 528 00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:36.400 I'm not going to say he's Matt Stafford esque because why would you. I 529 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:42.960 already hear her, Josh Allen, those guys and Mahomes obviously they're they're that 530 00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.400 tier above, and I think that he's on the tier below. It's good, 531 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:50.239 it's just excellent, and you can get to all levels of the field. 532 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.920 It's just you do notice that when it's downfield's you can't really do it 533 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:58.679 on a line, and that's fine, that's okay. Not everybody can do 534 00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:00.880 that. So yeah, he somebody that I think is going to really turn 535 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:05.639 some heads at the Senior Bowl with these players that he's gonna be able to 536 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:09.000 throw to so very much looking forward to seeing him, just like I am 537 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:15.480 to talk about the guy you're about to talk about, the running back out 538 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:21.840 of let's do it the University of Tennessee. We're talking about Jalen Right. 539 00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.239 Oh God, I love this guy so much. So I'm a sucker for 540 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:28.840 running backs. If you're not very familiar with me and don't follow me on 541 00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:34.000 Twitter and stuff like back running back Enthusiast has been in my Twitter bio for 542 00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:37.559 like five years. It's something that I just I love running backs and they're 543 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.400 an incredibly undervalued position at the next level. We know everything going on with 544 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:45.039 the

contracts right now. And you know why draft of running back early when 545 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.880 you can wait, Well, this is why you wait, because you can 546 00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:54.559 get a guy like Jalen Right out of Tennessee who is built. He's great. 547 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:58.480 Five eleven to two oh five is where I've got him right now. 548 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:02.039 We'll see how he weighs in. His long speed is electric. If he 549 00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:06.719 gets into the open field, very few defenders are going to catch him. 550 00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.320 I think he's got four to three speed all day long. And when I 551 00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:12.679 say four to three speed, let me just clarify, I don't really care 552 00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:19.119 about the forty. It's just a it's a way of identifying speed because people 553 00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.440 know what that means. He's very very fast. The forty to me is 554 00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:27.079 its own skill. It's not a football skill. I can rant about that 555 00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:30.000 forever, and I might during combine week. We'll see what happens. But 556 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:37.679 Wright has great long speed, very good vision, very good agility, very 557 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:42.719 good patience. His ability to change direction is fantastic. The way that he 558 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:50.920 is able to transition like speed to power back to speed is something that I 559 00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.480 love seeing in a running back right, Like when they're able to not just 560 00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:58.239 be at full speed all the time, but if they need to use agility 561 00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.599 or break a tackle, and then how fast can they ramp back up to 562 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:07.039 their top speed. You give him like three steps and he's back up and 563 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.480 he's flying again. Seven point four yards per carry this year, four point 564 00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:17.239 three five yards after contact per attempt this year. Great numbers, great size, 565 00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:22.719 great speed. In this class where the running back position is wide open, 566 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:27.800 you can make an argument for Jalen Wright being RB one, And I'm 567 00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:32.119 not gonna tell you that you're that wrong. Like there's just no true incredible 568 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.079 bellcout guy at the top now, I don't currently have him there. I 569 00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.000 think he'll probably end up at like RB three For me though, I think 570 00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:45.280 he's a really really strong running back that deserves Day two draft consideration and someone's 571 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.320 going to get a home run threat. Yeah, I think that he's a 572 00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:53.480 perfect guy for those wide zone Banahan type offenses right now that are just running 573 00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:58.920 rampant through everywhere. So right now, let's look at a team Washington Commanders, 574 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.559 who we expect Ben Jonson to have there and Tony Gibson probably not coming 575 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:06.480 back. We know Brian Robinson's a pretty good one two down guy, but 576 00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:09.400 you bring that thunder and lightning in to him, that would be a perfect 577 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.800 scheme to do that when he could recreate what's happening right now with David Montgomery 578 00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:16.960 and Jamier Gibbs. I'm not saying he's Jamior Gibbs because he's not. But 579 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:22.960 like you're talking about those electricity I mean those electricity plays and the willingness to 580 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:28.920 continue to fight through contact and then the reacceleration that you're talking about is ridiculous. 581 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.920 When you have players like that that can just kind of gear down and 582 00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:36.440 then just reaccelerate, those are players that you want on your team. And 583 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.480 there's a big reason right now why backfields are two three running backs is because 584 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.079 there's so many of them and they're so different. You know, you have 585 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:49.880 all these different kinds of backs and they're useful. They're very useful in this 586 00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.760 guy in a wide zone. I'm not gonna lie. It would not shock 587 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:58.719 me to see Kyle Shanahan draft another running back and this be the guy like 588 00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:01.920 to be raheem most like. That's kind of how it feels. So yeah, 589 00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:05.440 I love it. I love where you're going with it, and I 590 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:07.960 don't disagree at all, Like you can be with this running back class. 591 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.920 You can just have your own opinions put running backs where you want to, 592 00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.000 unless you're putting people where they don't belong, like way down at ten, 593 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:20.480 where they don't deserve to be there. I'm not going to have much much 594 00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.880 quorum with anybody saying any of that qualms with people saying that. So I 595 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:28.360 love what you brought up about Detroit because that's exactly what I'm thinking about too. 596 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:30.800 He's a guy that can be that. I mean, it's almost like 597 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.840 a buffalo uses James Cook too. He got more workload as the year went 598 00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.079 on. But these backs that are pure electricity, that aren't trying to be 599 00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:45.039 twenty carry a game type guys, but they can just press and make life 600 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:50.039 hell for defenses and just feast in those wide zones. He

would dominate in 601 00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.559 that sort of system. I love the thunder and lightning with Washington. And 602 00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.400 then you pair them with whichever quarterback they're inevitably taking at two. If they 603 00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.239 don't take a quarterback at two, where they trade out of that, I 604 00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:01.880 don't know what the hell they're doing, but they're by all accounts. You 605 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:07.400 go into this with Drake May and Jalen Wright, with Johan Dotson and Terry 606 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:13.039 McLaurin and Brian Robinson, and then you maybe pick up the offensive line a 607 00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.280 little bit throughout the draft as well. Yeah, you're starting to cook a 608 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.960 little bit. It's a lot of fun, but that sounds fun. We 609 00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:22.360 I just talked myself into Washington's draft already, like we're we're talking about who 610 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:27.920 they could go. I'm good to go one left. We're good. We're 611 00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:31.239 good. Let's keep the running back talk going because I've got another player that 612 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:37.440 you were very upset that I put on my list first because Marsh out of 613 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:42.880 USC is another electricity in a bottle kind of guy. I was talking to 614 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.599 my buddy Damian Parson earlier. You guys follow him most of you do you 615 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:51.000 know DPM score NFL. He's a fantastic follow or works over there at TDN. 616 00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:58.400 And I told him Marshaun Lloyd equals Travis Etn comp question mark. That's 617 00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:02.079 what I texted him, Okay, I douce. I see a lot of 618 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:09.800 similarities between Marshaon Lloyd and Traves Ytn, specifically both positives and negatives. We 619 00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:15.880 saw the vision in between the tackles for Traves Ytn be a problem this year 620 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:19.719 when your offensive line can't make everything work for you. We also saw him 621 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:25.400 take just about every little lane that he had for a touchdown multiple times this 622 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.199 year. Marshaon Lloyd they worked three or four backs at USC this year, 623 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:35.000 so he didn't get the bulk of the work. But one thing that I 624 00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.760 loved about him is the footwork in the short area. There is a clip 625 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.360 that I put up on Twitter of him teleporting around a guy where there's someone 626 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.199 in his face in the backfield and he just runs. He's gone. It's 627 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:51.199 that lateral agility, but he accelerates through his lateral moves. It's not just 628 00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.199 the lateral jump, cut and then acceleration. He accelerates through them. They 629 00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:59.960 call that that curve linear, the curvelinear motion. All that acceleration he bring 630 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.800 all of that. He's also he's a good pass protector. Effort is all 631 00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:06.559 there. He can get in there. He's a physical guy. He's not 632 00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:09.000 someone that's just gonna stay back and say you can you can run through me. 633 00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:13.360 No, He's gonna get in there and be a pass protector. I 634 00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.559 think he's extremely calm in the backfield when he has defenders all around. He 635 00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.400 doesn't like panic. He looks to make those plays. The one one of 636 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:22.599 the bigger problems that I have is that he's like, I see a crease 637 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.199 out there on the outside. I could take this all the way out there 638 00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:30.960 and maybe not read the leverage properly or just not take the right decision. 639 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:34.760 I think his decision making is subpar, to be honest with you, he 640 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.000 likes to take things to the outside. Is trying to make the big play. 641 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.239 Because I'll watch a play and I can see that he sees the leverage 642 00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:43.719 of the defender, He's like, Okay, I see what you're doing. 643 00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:45.559 He's patient behind the line, and then he just makes the wrong decision. 644 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:49.639 He just doesn't read it right. He just doesn't make that decision based off 645 00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.880 the read he made. So some of those are still there. But I 646 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:57.760 also think he's a good a good pass catcher. This doesn't don't Kayler Williams 647 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.119 just doesn't dull put all the running backs. He just doesn't. But every 648 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.360 time that he did, he caught the ball with his hands, he attacked 649 00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.559 it in the air. So I like those things. And again he's elusive 650 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.599 in the open space, like just get in there and he can make guys 651 00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:15.320 miss. I love the speed, I love the acceleration. All that stuff. 652 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.920 I'm in there's something that can be learned from every drill that takes place 653 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.400 at the Senior Bowl. It doesn't matter what the drill is. And when 654 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:30.280 Marshawn Lloyd gets to do the pass blocking reps down there in mobile that they 655 00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.760 have the running backs go through, they'll bring defenders up and they'll have the 656 00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:37.599 running backs step in and see how they fair pass protection. When Lloyd gets 657 00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:42.679 an opportunity to do that, I'm thinking he's

really gonna shine and NFL teams 658 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:44.880 are going to go, this is a guy that can be on the field 659 00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.199 at all three downs, and that's great, that's what you want. It's 660 00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:51.320 great to have a running back that can catch, but it doesn't matter if 661 00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:55.480 he can catch if he can't also pass protect because very seldomly are those running 662 00:43:55.480 --> 00:44:00.280 backs going to be on the field on third down if they can't also step 663 00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:05.000 up in past protection. Maybe the maybe the player originally calls to the running 664 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.519 back to go run a round, but guess what, very identifying blitz and 665 00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:09.960 they need the running back to be able to step up and pick up the 666 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:15.559 extra man on third and seven. Okay, Lloyd can do that. Not 667 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:19.800 every running back can. So I think Marshall Lloyd is going to make himself 668 00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.039 some money during Singer Bowl Week. I think he's already on a lot of 669 00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.079 radars. He had a very very good year. Looked great, exclusive, 670 00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:30.719 looked agile, changing direction is really solid. Marshall Lloyd's a really fun running 671 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:32.559 back. Curious to see how he weighs in because he was listed at five 672 00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:37.800 nine, two fifteen, which is out and he looks every bit. Yeah, 673 00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:43.079 yeah, I'm not I'm not thinking there's gonna be much discrepancy there, 674 00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:45.719 but I'm curious to see what his numbers are going to look like. Yeah, 675 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.920 super fun running back. I love me some Marshall Lloyd. We're gonna 676 00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:53.280 keep moving and I'm gonna go to the offensive line again because why not. 677 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:58.480 The offensive line is super fun. This is a name that we've thrown out 678 00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:00.400 a couple times already, but I'm excited to talk about him a little bit 679 00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:06.880 more in depth. It is the offensive tackle from Oregon State, Talis Fuaga 680 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:13.400 and Talise Fuaga is freaking amazing, and he's going to be a first round 681 00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.079 draft pick, so some team is going to take him. He played on 682 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:17.880 the he played on the right side, and I think that he's more of 683 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:21.760 a natural right tackle, and I think that that's a little bit of a 684 00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:27.360 hard cell sometimes in the first round until you watch him play and you don't 685 00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:29.719 need him to be a left tackle if you're going to take him in the 686 00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.159 first round, because he's going to work

the right side naturally and he's going 687 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.079 to clean up messes and make life very very easy on his quarterback. You 688 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:39.559 know what would be actually really interesting is if a left handed quarterback team drafted 689 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:44.719 him to be there, right who do you think that there's a team out 690 00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:49.599 there that has left handed quarterback that could use an offensive lineman. Do you 691 00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:52.880 think that's out there. I don't know, possible. I don't know if 692 00:45:52.920 --> 00:46:00.239 he'll be available to Miami for TUA. But talis Fuaga is fantastic. Love 693 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.360 his game. And I know I've said that about every single player that I've 694 00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:06.039 talked about today, but it's true. There's so many good players that are 695 00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:09.199 going to be down there. Talise Fouaga has terrific hands, he has very 696 00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:14.159 good athleticism, he is very good tenacity, and he's a road grader as 697 00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.960 well in the run game, so he's able of cleaning up any mess go 698 00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:22.119 put on the Oregon State versus UCLA game, We've touched on it already on 699 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.039 one of these shows. But Laatsu Latsu against talis Uaga was just so fun 700 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:31.639 to watch. And Fuaga just like never blinked. He always looks under control, 701 00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:34.679 and I think that's one of the best things he can say about an 702 00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.000 offensive alignment. He never puts himself in a position well, not never, 703 00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:42.320 everyone does occasionally, but seldomly does he find himself in a position where he 704 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.519 looks like he is out of control or trying to recover something that he didn't 705 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:52.239 intend to do. He has a game plan for how he goes about his 706 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:54.920 pass reps and his run reps, and he looks very, very common under 707 00:46:54.920 --> 00:47:00.199 control for it. I think he's a top fifteen pick. I think there's 708 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.000 going to be some teams out there that have to lase Fuagga as their top 709 00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.800 ranked offensive tackle in this draft class. I think that he's way up there 710 00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.760 towards the top of the board for a lot of teams. You know, 711 00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:15.079 we all love Olufashanu out of Penn State, but quite frankly, his film 712 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.800 this year didn't look as polished as it did the year before. So I 713 00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.599 think there's gonna be some teams that maybe go, oh, that's a little 714 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:25.360 weird. Why do you kind of take a little bit of a step back, 715 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:29.239

and maybe you have some discrepancy at the top of the board. Either 716 00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:30.440 way, I think we're looking at a draft class by all the mocks that 717 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:34.079 I'm looking at and all the players that are out there, what six, 718 00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:37.559 seven, maybe eight offensive linemen going in the first round. There's going to 719 00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:39.719 be so many offensive linemen that get drafted to Loise, it's going to be 720 00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:44.199 one of them. Yeah, I've got him earmarked to the Jets at ten 721 00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.119 right now. To be honest with you, I think that that makes the 722 00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:51.039 most sense, especially after what happened to Aaron Rodgers last year. Listen, 723 00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.119 they're taking a tackle. I don't get which one round With the tackle, 724 00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:59.440 I'm done, I'm leaving. I'm out of here. So I definitely have 725 00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:01.920 him earmarks there. I think he is a top ten player in this draft. 726 00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:07.000 I I think that there are three tackles. Maybe not. When I 727 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.519 get through my grades, we'll find out. I don't really know where he's 728 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:13.559 gonna line up. He's so good that I could see him being, you 729 00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.480 know, a top tackle, especially right tackle. At this point in the 730 00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:22.039 NFL, athletes are everywhere at defensive end, They're they're everywhere. It's not 731 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.800 so much a huge discrepancy from left to right. It's the blind side. 732 00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.199 I understand that, but you got guys coming from everywhere. You have to 733 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:35.199 protect your quarterbacks. You have to protect those fifty million dollars a year quarterbacks. 734 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.880 Right tackle left tackle get you a stud, and is a stud not 735 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:44.360 just he has he legitimately has the strongest hands a tackle in this class. 736 00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:49.400 If he gets on you, you're not going anywhere. You're not going. 737 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:53.800 You are going somewhere. You're going. If he gets into you, you 738 00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:59.679 are going for a ride. And he wrote down he's a heat seeking missile 739 00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.440 in the game. That guy, if he connects with somebody, it's over. 740 00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:07.639 Like. He's so good in every aspect, even his recovery athleticism. 741 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:13.239 Because he can be a bit overly aggressive in pass protection, I don't have 742 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.599 any issue. You know, pass protection doesn't have to be passive, we 743 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.079 know that. But he does tend to get a little bit over his skis, 744 00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:22.519 open his shoulders a

little bit can invite those inside counters. Some of 745 00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:25.360 the better athletes in the defensive end can be able to exploit that. But 746 00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:30.599 regardless, this guy is a phenomenal player. He's going inside the top fifteen. 747 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:35.599 I have zero concerns about that. I have zero concerns about him playing 748 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.119 tackle in the NFL. I don't know why people want to keep pushing these 749 00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:43.360 good players to guard. Let them be tackles. There is a huge tackle 750 00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:45.599 problem in the NFL. You guys, watch how many quarterbacks got hurt this 751 00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:51.800 season because of bad offensive line play. Yeah, keep Fuaga at tackle. 752 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:57.880 Prosper do it. Yes, all right, So last guy for me, 753 00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:04.119 this is one of my underrated like more on on on under the radar players 754 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.760 because we're seeing right now kind of he's starting to get talked about it a 755 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:13.400 little bit more. Ricky Parasol wide receiver out of Florida is one of my 756 00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:19.039 sleepers in this draft class. I think that he's in the mold of what 757 00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:23.519 we saw from Puka Nikua coming out of Boise State or b Yu. Sorry, 758 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:29.039 my apoplis b b Yu. He's It's funny. I have written down 759 00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:32.480 here used car salesman every time if you guys ever, have you guys ever 760 00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:37.920 been to a used car salesman, a used car anything, because they will 761 00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:43.920 try anything in the book to get you to buy this car. Ricky does 762 00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:50.599 everything he's He sells routes multiple different ways. He makes cornerbacks believe that, 763 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:52.840 yeah, I'm going vertical and then oh I'm coming on back underneath. Oh 764 00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:58.800 nope, I'm going to the inside. He's a fantastic short to intermediate route 765 00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.440 seller and he can get open. He has great hands. He does not 766 00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:06.079 drop the football. I do have questions about his deep speed. That's fine, 767 00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:08.519 but you don't necessarily need to worry so much about deep speed. If 768 00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:13.719 you have somebody on the opposite side that's already fast, just throw him in 769 00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:16.199 the football. He catches it. He does run good routes. He's also 770 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:24.239 an effective blocker. I watched three touchdowns in my specifically against LSU. They 771 00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:30.119 ran to his side and scored three touchdowns with him kind of lead blocking on 772 00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:34.880 the outside. So he can come out and be an efficient and effective run 773 00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:37.280 blocker right away for you, and I know some coaches that really love that 774 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.920 for your wide receivers. So Tagan attacking the ball in the air with his 775 00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:44.920 hands, He lines up, slot, lines up on the outside, he 776 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.800 does all of that. So he's a player that's I think gonna rise up 777 00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:53.159 boards and this senior ball. Don't be surprised if he's legitimately open every single 778 00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:58.440 time he runs a one on one. Don't be surprised. It's funny that 779 00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:04.679 you brought up Uknakua because in my notes I have remind of Cooper Cup. 780 00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:10.760 Yeah, the other wide receiver. Same thing. He's not gonna run a 781 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.440 blistering forty. In fact, it's probably gonna be decently slow, but I 782 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:20.239 don't care about that at all. His ability to sell, like you said, 783 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:24.639 is great, insanely fluid. I don't and it's honestly, it's the 784 00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:29.039 head fix that really sold me on the Cooper Cup. Oh yeah. It's 785 00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:34.280 the way that he uses his head to snap routes and get these defenders to 786 00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:38.519 bite. He almost headfakes too much, but it's so much, and he 787 00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:45.639 is constantly using it and drawing defenders to bite on what he's trying to sell 788 00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:50.159 before breaking off and then finding himself, you know, with ten yards of 789 00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.920 space and no one even close to him. It's just like Cooper Cup. 790 00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:59.400 You don't often know why Cooper Cup's opened, but he just is. And 791 00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:01.599 that's just kind of what happens with Ricky Piersoll as well. And then you 792 00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:05.400 go back and you watch the actual one on one and you're like, oh, 793 00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:12.199 he embarrassed that guy, not to see with technique and with his ability 794 00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.000 to sell. And that's what Ricky Piersall does. We have We do have 795 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.840 verified size on him, just under six foot one and eighty eight pounds. 796 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:25.880 Fine, probably fine, I'll get yep check. Good moving on. He's 797 00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:29.639 gonna be a really really fun one. I completely agree with you. He's 798 00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:34.119 someone that I liked a lot when watching his film, and yeah, he's 799 00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.920 gonna be another mid round wide receiver that has an opportunity depending upon the scheme 800 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:39.800 that he goes to and if he has a true number one opposite of him, 801 00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:44.920 even better, just like Pukinakua with Cooper Cup, depending on where he 802 00:53:45.000

--> 00:53:47.639 lands. Do not be surprised. This is one of those wide receivers that 803 00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:52.880 has a really productive rookie season. Absolutely, we're gonna move it on to 804 00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:58.000 my last player. Well maybe my last I might have to throw another name 805 00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:06.280 out there, but tight end Bensonnat out of Ksu Baby and to me, 806 00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:10.840 Ben Sonat is the tight end that I'm excited to see the most of when 807 00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:15.800 we get down to mobile. He is a very natural tight end. He 808 00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:21.239 just looks the part. He's good in all levels six, four, five 809 00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:25.400 listed, Very natural, very fluid, fluid, very big physical. I 810 00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:29.400 think he's a really good route runner and he's got very strong hands. He's 811 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.840 he's more than willing to catch the ball in traffic. Has goes up and 812 00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:35.920 gets it. You know, he's he plucks it, not like he's a 813 00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:40.199 crazy athletic. I'm gonna jump over everybody tight end, but in contested areas 814 00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:45.800 with his big frame, he just kind of boxes him out. It's it's 815 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.559 really really pretty to watch. I almost made another thing that you would have 816 00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:52.800 clipped and I didn't say it, but one of my favorite things about bensonat 817 00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:57.360 is that after the catch ability, he is a great train in the open 818 00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:01.280 field. Like it looks like lines jumping on the back of an elephant trying 819 00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:05.079 to pull him down, where he's just like jumping on his back and like 820 00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:08.639 clawing and like polling, and he's just truck in it. He's he's a 821 00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.760 load in the open field. And I think that he's a potential impact tight 822 00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:15.800 end that can contribute in the run game. He's an in line tight end. 823 00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:19.480 He can also split out. But this is not your like hyper athletic 824 00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.400 just lines up in the slot type of tight end that we've been seeing a 825 00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:25.960 little bit in the NFL. This is someone that can that can line up 826 00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:30.679 in line, help you on the ground, help you in past blocking, 827 00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:32.920 can do all of that, but is also very capable of running routes, 828 00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:37.199 you know, friendly target for a quarterback. And what he does after the 829 00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:43.159 catch is very just steady, very steady presence at the tight end position. 830 00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:49.800 I don't think that he's gonna be Travis Kelcey or you know, he's not 831 00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:53.000 Brock Bowers by any stretch,

but he's a very good tight end that can 832 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:57.880 contribute and depending upon where he lands. We were just we were talking about 833 00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:04.599 bensonatt with with Jim Naggi, and he mentioned that it's kind of like Jake 834 00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:07.239 Ferguson for Dallas in the sense that he might not blow you away, but 835 00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:12.239 he's a kind of guy that, if given the opportunity, could find himself 836 00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.559 in a focal point in an offense and really thrive in that opportunity. So 837 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:19.639 I think Bensonot is going to be a fascinating guy to watch. I'm curious 838 00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:22.519 to see how he does against you know, defenders and stuff like that. 839 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:25.960 What he's able to do out there is going to be really important, I 840 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.760 think to his draft stock. I hope that this is a guy that ends 841 00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:35.400 up getting drafted in the mid rounds. We'll see. I think the Senior 842 00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:37.760 Bowl is going to be pretty important for his draft stock. But I think 843 00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:39.440 that he's a really good player to watch. Yeah, I love the heat 844 00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:44.639 lined up everywhere backfield, out wide, slot, in line. He did 845 00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:49.039 all of it. I think that he's a functionally strong player, which is 846 00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:51.679 always good to watch. When you're watching him, he doesn't look like he's 847 00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:54.719 getting out muscled by like defensive backs and things like that when he's blocking, 848 00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:58.320 so you like to see that. I also think that he could live as 849 00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:02.159 like a slot wide receiver tight end. He has that positional versatility to him 850 00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:06.079 that he's not always just gonna be you have to line him up or he's 851 00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:07.840 in the backfield. No, you can do some different things with him. 852 00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:13.199 So the odds after the catch stuff is always important in today's NFL, and 853 00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.679 when you see guys that don't look out of place in space at tight end, 854 00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:20.280 you draft those players and you make it work because it's always it's always 855 00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:23.280 a trying to find those guys that can read space. You're always trying to 856 00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:27.280 read space, and they play so much zone, you know, everywhere, 857 00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.159 that when you find those tight ends that can take advantage of it, it's 858 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:34.719 nice to see. So we're not gonna say he's Sam Laporta. We're not 859 00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:38.039 gonna say he's you know, Dalton Kincaid. But I think the Jake Ferguson 860 00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:42.079 stuff is very apt and it makes a lot of sense. A guy who 861 00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:45.199 you can use in many different ways, and combined with the right quarterback, 862 00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:47.599 it's gonna take shots. I'm all for it. So he's definitely somebody that 863 00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:52.599 I'm excited to watch and could find himself very easily being a riser at tight 864 00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:57.599 end in this draft with a good week at the Senior Bowl. Before we 865 00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:00.360 wrap up, I just wanted to throw one more name because when I was 866 00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:04.480 we each we just came up with four. Yeah, and I went back 867 00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:07.639 and forth on the running back so much because of Amani Bailey out of TCU, 868 00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:13.719 and he's just another one of those hyper athletic guys I'm so excited to 869 00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:15.239 see down there. I'm not going to go into the full scouting report like 870 00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:17.599 we just said on all these players, but I just had to say his 871 00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:22.320 name so that everyone that's listening is just another name that you can just jot 872 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:25.519 down in a player to watch. Because he is so explosive and so physical, 873 00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:29.079 even at a bit of a smaller size. I think he's going to 874 00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:32.320 turn some heads down there. Absolutely. It's it's I haven't seen enough of 875 00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:36.320 his tape to make a real opinion yet We're still doing lots of lots of 876 00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:39.719 tape watching. It's still really good to see him there. I guess you 877 00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:43.880 know. Throwing an aim out there for me is Johnny Wilson. I love 878 00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:49.519 Johnny Wilson so much. Talk about can we talk about how they listened him 879 00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:52.559 at six seven and he's actually six six? You don't have to lie about 880 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:57.159 a dude that's six six Florida State. Six six is plenty tall. What 881 00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.760 are you doing? I don't know, but I've seen a lot of forcing 882 00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:04.599 to play tight end. He can live at wide receiver, but he'd be 883 00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:07.079 a mismatchic tight end. So just looking for a guy who's gonna maybe turn 884 00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:13.599 some heads at his route running ability. It's Johnny Wilson. Very excited to 885 00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:17.400 see Johnny Wilson. I'm excited to see how the fluidity, how the athleticism 886 00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:22.519 can translate for a guy with he's just that big, Like, how does 887 00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:24.119 it work? I just need to know how it works. I just don't 888 00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:29.960 even understand the physics of Johnny Wilson. So we'll see how it is. 889 00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:31.920 Hey, guys, that's it for now. This is like we said the 890 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:37.280 last episode before getting down to Mobile. We will be bringing all kinds of 891 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:39.760 content to you and hit us up on Twitter, ask us questions. I'm 892 00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.239 sure we'll be tweeting a lot and throwing out little clips and being like, 893 00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:45.800 holy shit, did you see that thing that Jalen registered? And we're gonna 894 00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.360 be tweeted out. So it's gonna be a great time. We're so excited 895 00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:52.320 to get down there, so much content coming up. I mean, hey, 896 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:54.760 the draft starts and mobile, that's what they say, get after it. 897 00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:59.639 So thank you Cover one Draft Weekly, John Helmcamp Daniel Harms to catch 898 00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:00.559 you guys,