התמלול המלא של The Married Commitment-Phobe w/ Sarah Whittle

years now 61 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:59.280 and I know we really bonded last year over our barefoot sponsorship together out of 62 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:02.639 their foot sponsorship and then AJ I didn't I wanted to save this for the 63 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:08.520 PODCAST, but I've known about you for quite some time before. You remember, 64 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:12.360 when I initially came out to La I was doing the hosting thing. 65 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:15.919 I wanted to be in front of the camera hosting, you know, red 66 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.240 carpets. I was kind of trying all that kind of stuff out and in 67 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:23.759 front of Camera Journey and I saw you hosting all these different shows in La, 68 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:26.439 red carpets and everything, and I was like, how can I get 69 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:31.720 that career? Obviously, my dreams of changed and shifted and I'm very happy 70 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.519 where I am, but I will say you were one of my inspos for 71 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:39.399 a very long time because I just thought you were hustling and doing a lot 72 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.199 of great work out there. I'll thank you. That actually makes me feel 73 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:45.600 very, very special, because we oftentimes, you know, struggle with that 74 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:47.959 like idea, like does anybody know we exist? Right and I look, 75 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:50.319 yeah, I'm I look at you and like Oh, a hundred and forty 76 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:55.000 some thousand instagram followers, like I want to be like you and I grow 77 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:57.600 up, and yet here you are complimenting me. So you never know who's 78 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:01.120 watching. That's really sweet. Also, low key, I host a national 79 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:05.920 radio show and I work like ungodly hours and I'm running on no sleep right 80 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:08.920 now. So that like just pet me up just a little bit. So, 81 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:11.079 like you all like I'm ready for this, I'm ready for this podcast, 82 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:14.439 and also I know were we got some some out of all those. 83 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:15.879 I feel like I also was like that's what also, I also want to 84 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:18.240 get to tell you a little bit more, just because you're married and that's 85 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:23.360 obviously the theme of our show today. Yeah, but we're inching towards you 86 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.560 marriage. We just celebrated our nine year anniversary, which is in so, 87 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:30.560 yeah, do you want to I'm wearing so we went to Disneyland recently and 88 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:32.399 I'm wearing the pin that they gave us, which, by the way, 89 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:36.480 I'm still convinced it was magic, because they said that a friend told us 90 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:40.160 and nobody told me. You were recently engaged at two friends we were with 91 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:43.319 there, like we didn't tell anybody and they randomly gave us these happily ever 92 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:46.800 after pends. And then everybody start treating a special because they're like, oh, 93 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:49.240 you're engage. Mine still minds in the bedroom because I'm not wearing the 94 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:53.439 shirt that I was wearing that day. I meanal but you still sure? 95 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:56.959 I threw want to get cold at night, but no, weird, depending 96 00:05:56.959 --> 00:06:00.560 where, there's a lot of pressure because we're depending on you to answer any 97 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:04.120 marriage tips that, wow, we're ye questions that we have this thing ever 98 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:06.439 go south, we're also going to pin that on you as well. Right. 99 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:10.519 They're blaming we're blaming their well, yes, yes, yeah, we're 100 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:14.199 exactually, I'll ruin it all in the in the ninth year. We're good. 101 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:17.279 No, sarcastically like her, we're planning the wedding right now. So 102 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:20.040 you did a you did a destination wedding, but I know, I know 103 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:25.399 he's from Italy, but it's still hard doing a destination wedding. We're playing 104 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:28.480 our wedding from Mexico, so there's a lot of challenges that have come with 105 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:30.279 that, but we're very, very excited. Yeah, we're actually hopping on 106 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.360 a plane literally tomorrow, yeah, the day after this podcast drops, to 107 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:38.600 fly down there and finalize some details and to try all the food and to 108 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:42.120 pick up floral arrangements and flatwear and all the kind of fun stuff, because 109 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:44.920 so far, like Lokey, it has been that much fun. Yeah, 110 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:48.959 but but yeah, it's very, very stressful and it's very a big undertaking. 111 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:51.759 But I would say, like you know, you guys been together nine 112 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:55.600 years. My husband and I we were together for about a year and a 113 00:06:55.680 --> 00:07:00.600 half before we got engaged and then I think we got married pretty quickly. 114 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:03.959 So you, like you said before, he's an Italian stallion. He's an 115 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:11.199 immigrant from Italy and we met in La and, you know, I it 116 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:15.399 did kind of like progressed from there and ended up being our forever and we 117 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:17.759 like found each other. We both moved to La with big, lofty, 118 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:23.160 like kind of TV and film dreams and we ended up leaving with each other 119 00:07:23.199

--> 00:07:27.519 and finding way much more. So I am so proud. I know I 120 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:30.959 get and I'm going to cry a probably because I just I am. I 121 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:34.959 I'm an emotional, ful person, but I also like my relationship with my 122 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:39.319 husband is one of the things that I am most proud of in my life. 123 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:43.519 I'm so proud of what we do for each other, but we what 124 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.240 we do as a unit together as well. Oh, I was going to 125 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:50.399 say my wedding was like the most bougi extra thing I've ever done and I 126 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:54.879 will forever, ever be proud of it and brag about it and show and 127 00:07:54.959 --> 00:08:00.040 be like, I got married in an Italian castle always, because that Shit 128 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:03.759 was unreal. It was a dream. It was a perfect wedding. It 129 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:07.600 was amazing, know, and you looked stunning. We haven't picked outfits or 130 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.920 colors and that we're we have a lot to do, but we're very, 131 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:11.879 very excited that you're here to guide us and we're excited that you're here to 132 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:16.040 break down these secrets with us. So let's go ahead and get into the 133 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.680 first secret. So we haven't seen or read any of these secrets. Are 134 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.360 Amazing. Producer frank finds all the secrets. We ask that you submit your 135 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.399 secrets through confess your mess that us, because you can give longer secrets. 136 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.920 You can submit voice that missions, which I keep asking for every week. 137 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.240 I want to hear a voice that mission. But Oh God, this first 138 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:37.279 one is long. I did tell people to do more than one sen it. 139 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:39.440 You'll me to read the first one, not read it. Okay, 140 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:46.080 okay, this is air time. Sarah, anonymous, anonymous female, uh 141 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.159 from Oregon. I've never been to Oregon. Okay. I've been married for 142 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:54.320 almost three years to a guy that was born and raised in Kenya. He 143 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.799 came to the states as a teenager and was able to stay with a student 144 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:03.480 be he's a during college. After some time he ran out of options and 145 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:05.000 realize you had to get married to stay in the state. Never been a 146 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:09.240 relationship with her, doesn't contact or know where this woman lives, strictly on 147 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:11.919 paper. One year after that, I met him in two thousand and sixteen 148 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.720 and we started our relationship. He proposed two and

a half years and then, 149 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.120 while we were planning everything, he drops the bomb of me that he's 150 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.559 technically married and can't marry me until he divorces. Needless to say, we 151 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.600 postponed everything and after a lot of tears, he divorced. After you receive 152 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:26.399 this US citizenship in two thousand and eighteen, do we got married a few 153 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:31.240 months after. Oh Wow, they still got married. Wow, I don't 154 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:33.600 know if I I mean, there's a level of trust there and I feel 155 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:39.440 like was broken. Yeah, yeah, but also it's love. You know, 156 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:41.240 there's a lot of layers to that. Sarah. What if you're a 157 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:45.879 year and a half in you own cloudio? Is that correct? Yes, 158 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:48.519 yes, you're planning a wedding, the wedding of your dreams, and all 159 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:50.200 the sudden he's like, okay, now, listen, I do have a 160 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:54.679 wife, by the way, and I should take care of that first. 161 00:09:54.679 --> 00:10:00.240 How do you what's your first what's your first response? I think you know, 162 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.039 I think I wouldn't have even gotten there yet because, to be honest, 163 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:07.840 like you know, cloudy on ice, since Claudio is an immigrant, 164 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:09.879 he was here on a student visa and that was something that, once we 165 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:16.039 started getting more serious, we had to have straightforward conversations. So if I 166 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:20.600 was dating someone that was on a visa, I would bring up the subject 167 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:26.039 of like Hey, real talk, laws are a thing, visas are a 168 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.919 thing. Yeah, what is your situation, and and giving them the runway 169 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:35.559 to like really have that conversation. And I know that's such a boring answer, 170 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.039 but when cloudy and I started getting serious, I kind of was like, 171 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:43.039 how long are you here for? Because I like you, but I 172 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:48.519 don't know how much to invest. So I think you know, obviously, 173 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:52.320 we all know that the best time of relationship has communication and obviously it sounds 174 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:56.240 like he was trying to kind of not hide it, but probably wasn't something 175 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:01.360 that he was comfortable sharing. But after a year, come on man, 176 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.639 yeah, I gotta talk to your girl about that. That's kind of a 177 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:07.360 big deal. And Yeah, and I do realize that there are many marriages 178 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:11.360 like that that happened because of visas and stuff like that, but I just 179 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:13.840 feel like you got to be open and honest about that kind of stuff, 180 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:18.720 because that's a big deal. But also to be fair, like sometimes you 181 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.000 want it sucks, but sometimes you want them to become invested in the relationship, 182 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.200 because there's this fear of if I tell them from the start that I'm 183 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:28.679 married and they don't want to know like the details of it. Wasn't love, 184 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.440 it was just I could stay here. Is that fair to do to 185 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:35.399 the girl, though? I don't necessarily think so, but they've been married 186 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:37.039 for three, almost three years. I guess it worked. If I met 187 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:41.600 you and you were married, Aj I still would pursue I know you worked, 188 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:48.840 you a hoe and I'm really cute. Okay, anonymous female, my 189 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:52.919 best friend and I had a foursome with two guys and we later realized they 190 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:58.279 were married with kids. Oh that's nice. See, that's really messy. 191 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:00.679 Wait, so it was the best friend that when, as the best friend 192 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:03.000 and I do, we know if they're male or female, it's a female, 193 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:05.399 anonymous female. I was my female. Sorry, yes, a two 194 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.320 women had for so much, two guys and they were married with kids. 195 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:11.879 Here's the thing. So here's here's here's where I have I have issue because 196 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.440 in age at ag and I talked about this. We don't judge, especially 197 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:18.559 in the Gay commune. I'm not going to judge, and we don't judge 198 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.200 in general your relationship, everybody's relationship with their own private relationship. Right. 199 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.120 And whenever we see these celebrities come out in this like Oh, scandal, 200 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.200 they were caught you, I'm like, we don't really know the behind the 201 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.240 scenes of if they have an open lights or whatever. But we've all heard 202 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:35.240 about will Smith and Jadas were story Hollo over Hollywood, but who know where 203 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:39.120 it's real? Where I find the issue is when there's kids involved. Just 204 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.120 because. But okay, but let's Le's a perfect example then, because we 205 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:46.480 make the assumption, and maybe an I hear you, but we make the 206 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:50.360 assumption that the kids are going to be hurt in this process. Right. 207 00:12:50.399

--> 00:12:52.320 But then you look at, let's just say for the sake of conversation, 208 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:56.320 that all the rumors we've heard about will and Jada Pinkett Smith over the years 209 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.240 are true, that they're open or bisexual or swingers, are all of these 210 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:03.960 other things that we've all heard right in Hollywood. Their kids have turned out 211 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:07.399 to be pretty dope and maybe maybe, if it is true, about them. 212 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:11.440 Maybe the fact that they were so open at their kids allowed their kids 213 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:16.919 to not have all that sexual emotional baggage that so many of us are burdened 214 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.279 with by the time we're twenty. So is it possible that maybe it's not 215 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:24.200 actually about the kids? I want to know if these men's wives or their 216 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.799 partners if they actually know and if they're okay with it. That's a bigger 217 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.320 concern to me. I think I agree with you. They're AJ for sure, 218 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:35.440 because I think, you know, polyamory, open relationships like those kind 219 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:39.320 of things are becoming more common now, but just like every other relationship, 220 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:43.480 it's not one size fits all. So where monogamy is something that cloudy and 221 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:48.519 I have had many discussions about. Like we're monogamous with each other because that's 222 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.919 where our value is in our relationship. That is a that is a way 223 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.240 to show our commitment to each other. But for other couples is not so 224 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:01.840 much they like they like the polyamorous thing, they like having sex parties and 225 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:03.919 stuff like that, and I think that's okay. It's I think it's really 226 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:11.159 about the communication and I think if those two married men came in like the 227 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:13.919 in like I'm single, ready to mingled. Then they bounds way there. 228 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:18.039 Yeah, that's awkward. Yeah, I'm always curious about this because with gay 229 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:20.919 couples it's one thing, but let's say you and cloudio you're on your ten 230 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:26.519 year anniversary vacation and you meet it, you meet somebody, a woman, 231 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.759 man, whatever, that you both are like, Oh wow, this person's 232 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:33.919 very, very, very fascinating. The Yoga. Yeah, we're getting on 233 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.480 a flight tomorrow head and home. Should we? We might never see this 234 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:39.919 person ever again. Is that something you can even picture as a possibility in 235 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.120 your relationship, or is it like absolutely not, off the table, never 236 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:48.159 going to happen. Question. You know what, we are very like communicative 237 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.559 couple and whenever we see attractive people, Male, female, nonbinary, we 238 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.279 are like, look at how hot they are. So we're not that type 239 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:01.840 of couple that's very jealous of kind of like acknowledging that people are attractive or 240 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:07.320 enticing or or interesting or anything like that, because I think there are so 241 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:11.039 many attractive people out there. Yeah, so why can't we, you know, 242 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.679 just be like wow, you're attractive, you're killing it, whatever. 243 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.960 I think. I don't know. I don't think we're the type of people 244 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:24.440 that have stern blanket answers. Yeah, but yeah, it's I don't know. 245 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:26.600 I don't know if my dad I listened to this idea, but I 246 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:31.039 don't. I don't know. I think that's the place to be, honestly, 247 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:33.440 the fair answer. Yeah, because I think when you're so rigid and 248 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:37.440 you're like absolutely no, never, not going to happen, that's problematic for 249 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:39.399 me because I'm like you never know what, like you never know what, 250 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.159 like spring, and I grew up though, where adults are like absolutely not. 251 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:46.519 My husband if he looked at a single woman, I and he I 252 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:50.000 don't. He's never going to and it's not it's not healthy and it's starting 253 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:52.360 to sound like a bit of a therapy session on their dayside. I'M gonna 254 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:56.320 go on to the next secret, because you have quite okay, anonymous female. 255 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:58.600 My Sugar Daddy is an a list celebrity with the wife and kids and 256 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:03.519 he just bought me a house in a car. Okay, will Smith could 257 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.399 be back in this conversation again right now. No, not, will, 258 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:11.799 no. Here's the thing with with secrets like this, m in order for 259 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:14.600 me to believe it, because I know about a sugar daddy and buying a 260 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:17.720 purse and letting me borrow the cars. More thing. Yeah, a house 261 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:19.679 and a car is a lot like actually buying that. We're talking like a 262 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:22.799 house and like Ohio, or like a house here, right, and this. 263 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.360 See, this is the moment where I would like a voice. No, 264 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.480 I would like something to

explain. We've been together. I met him 265 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:33.000 at at a bar, at a red carpet Evan, and his wife doesn't 266 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:36.080 know about me, but she also is open and she knows he does these 267 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:38.200 things like. That's the type of stuff I want to hear, but I'm 268 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.320 not going to get that. So I guess we should just take a quick 269 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:45.799 commercial break while I be compressing. Be Sad that I met hearing the details 270 00:16:45.840 --> 00:17:00.200 them gather. Our thoughts were back in a moment. Miss all right, 271 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.879 welcome back to confess your mess. We're deep into some of these marriage secrets 272 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:07.759 right now, talking relationships and marriage with rude you and Acorns, our girl, 273 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:10.519 Sarah Whittle. Thank you so much for joining us. You're so much 274 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:14.039 fun. We really just needed this therapy session with you to figure out how 275 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:15.920 to how how to get married and how to stay married, because you're doing 276 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.440 it successfully. What three, three years now since your marriage. Is that 277 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:23.319 right? Yeah, we were about together maybe for two years before we got 278 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:29.720 married and we just celebrated a couple days ago our three year of wedding anniversary. 279 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:33.960 He did get married right before a pandemic Hood Oh, we thought we 280 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:37.359 weren't want the timing was stellar. My mom was just like, hurry up, 281 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:41.200 get married before we're too old. Now, okay, and then now 282 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.519 we're looking back. I'm so glad we got married. Yeah, that's interesting 283 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.359 because two thousand and twenty one was always sort of in my brain is our 284 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:49.079 wedding. We thought we'd get married June two thousand and twenty one, and 285 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:52.640 that was sort of the plan. I had a whole huge plan on how 286 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:55.559 it is going to propose to him. You mentioned, like seeing me on 287 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:57.000 red carpets earlier, that I was going to propose to him either on a 288 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:00.039 red carpet or one of our TV shows. Wrong them on. Wendy Williams 289 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:04.079 was on the real and I was actually talking with producers at the Wendy Williams 290 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:07.319 show to maybe do it live on the air there and do a whole thing 291 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:11.079 in New York City. And then the pandemic happened very quickly and all of 292 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:14.240 a sudden we went from, you know, not only not getting married in 293 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.359

two thousand and twenty one, here we're approaching two thousand and twenty two and 294 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:19.559 we're just now planning to wedding. So it's all worked out. But Kudos 295 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:22.079 to you for forgetting it in you were, you're on top of it. 296 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.839 You really, you really were connected with the universe to make sure they all 297 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:29.799 done that everything well. We were all so we also had outside factors like 298 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:33.279 lawyers and and we sort and other things that we had to take into account. 299 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:37.440 So, you know, thankful for the rush, because it happened all 300 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.759 in the right time. Love it actually. Okay, anonymous female, I 301 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:47.000 never experience orgasms until my husband. Best sex life ever. Okay, so, 302 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:52.440 when it comes to sex anatomy, the female orgasm, I see on 303 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:56.400 like TV shows and movies, like I've never had an orgasm. It's that 304 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:59.200 a real thing, like you have to like teach a man how to take 305 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:03.759 care of you. I mean, yeah, kind of, yes, because 306 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:07.279 it's like it's also, you know, a little more complicated maybe than the 307 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.079 male anatomy, and also a lot of, you know, media out there 308 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:15.640 is very centered around the male pleasure rather than female pleasure. So I think, 309 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:22.000 relatively like it's a difficult situation. I will say that, just like 310 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:26.519 all relationships, it's not one size fits all. So I think I've heard, 311 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:29.559 you know, from all my girlfriends in past, like everyone gets off 312 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.240 on so different and sometimes it changes as time goes so I think you know, 313 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:36.519 for her, if she's having the best sex of her life with her 314 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:41.079 husband, congratulations, Jackpot. If he's a great communicator, wow you got 315 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.079 yourself a great guy. So I think it's really that. And you know, 316 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.920 like you guys said earlier, about really opening up on what you like 317 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:52.119 and what you don't like is such an important part of any relationship, any 318 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:57.119 marriage, and if it's not vibing and not feeling right, especially in a 319 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:02.400 long term relationship or marriage, I think finding out a way to communicate it 320 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:08.920 without it being negative or a traumatic conversation is so important in relationships, not 321 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:12.599 only when it comes to sex talks. So ego involved. Yeah, really

322 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:18.079 hurt feelings easy. Yet I have a follow up question just because, like 323 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:25.079 I said, I don't have any stars. However, as a female and 324 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:26.799 I've kind of had this conversation, you know, drew and Jackie and as 325 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:32.920 like whole crew. I've had conversation before. As a female, though, 326 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:40.359 yes, we've just stablished right. I know that, because the ANATOMIS different. 327 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:42.720 But I know that for you know, a guy it can feel nice, 328 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:45.640 but then the orgasm will be the ultimate feeling. But for girls and 329 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:51.759 every guy can't make a girl orgasm. If you are, and I'm not 330 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:53.759 saying it has to be a claudio necessarily, isn't just in general, like 331 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:56.880 the goal? Yes, orgasm the goal? Or can you just have sex 332 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:04.680 and it's still be nice without orgasming? I think. I think for women 333 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:08.559 it's all different, right. Some women don't aren't satisfied unless they orgasm, 334 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:11.839 whereas like, I think for the most part men that's kind of like always 335 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:15.319 the end goal. Yeah, even though like a journey may be different, 336 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:18.519 because we will we will be pount it is, we will full on pout 337 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:22.200 if we don't get to finish, like we will like throw a tantrum porch 338 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:26.599 exactly. And I think unfortunately, because of like how sexuality has been that 339 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:30.279 we've all experience, it's not really focused on the female orgasm. So in 340 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.440 a way, you know, women kind of like choose their own adventure, 341 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:37.839 what they find satisfying on what they find not satisfying. Okay, it's the 342 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.920 journey. Okay, it depends who you are. I like that. But 343 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:44.799 if a woman wants that to be the end goal, that should very much 344 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:48.200 also be a focus, whoever her partner, of course. Yes, yes, 345 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:51.759 okay, anonymous female. There's a lot of feoples of that submitted, 346 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:53.799 a lot of anonymous ones there there in their marriage is and they want to 347 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:57.119 talk. Okay, anonymous, feel emal. I realize I don't want to 348 00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:00.640 be married anymore. I don't know how to break it to my husband. 349 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:07.319 Oh, that's hard. I have no experience in that. So that's sad. 350 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:08.759 Like, okay, what if one of your best girlfriends came to you 351 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:11.759 and like, listen, I've

been married for five years, ten years, 352 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.720 whatever, and I'm just over it. I'm not happy anymore. But he's 353 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:18.039 like the nicest guy in the world. To sounds like she just want to 354 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:22.319 hurt this man. So we must be a decent person. They're just over 355 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:26.640 it. What do you tell your friend? What do you say? Well, 356 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:32.319 I think for me I've always kind of like viewed our marriage as like, 357 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:34.480 you know, in a way it is a contract, right, your 358 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:38.240 contractually being like you got to hold up your end of the game. I'll 359 00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:42.440 hold up mine. Together we're better, you know, and I think sometimes 360 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:48.400 in marriages and relationships one person may grow in a different way, that is 361 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:52.799 going into a direction that isn't the direction of you together and it's not going 362 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:57.079 to fit anymore. And so I think the easiest like example is if someone 363 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.960 just like turned into an Asshole, if all of a sudden your husband became 364 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:06.319 an Asshole, then they're not kind of honoring that contract, those vows that 365 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:08.359 you had had for each other. And so in a way you're no longer 366 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:14.880 with that person. This person is changing into another journey, into another path 367 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:19.440 that you are no longer included it because they're being an ass that's that's so 368 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:25.119 real. That way, I think in that way you're you're violating the contract, 369 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:30.440 you're violating the relationship together and everything like that. So in a marriage, 370 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.480 and this is cloudy that him and I have talked about, is like, 371 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:36.759 if you're growing in a different journey than me and it's in a way 372 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:41.599 that isn't honoring our relationship, then we have to reassess it. That's really 373 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:45.440 yeah, I think my biggest fear with us in our relationships. I'm almost 374 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:49.599 ten years older and I think early on it's never really been about the sex 375 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:53.720 stuff. For me. I'm not really worried that that he's going to go 376 00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:57.200 cheat on me or that he's going to want to sleep with somebody else, 377 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:02.519 because we really, really really wants to have another sexual experience. We can 378 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:04.440 talk about it, you know, yeah, and I'm not saying I'm going 379 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:07.880 to do it, but we can talk about it. And sometimes just talking 380 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:11.319 about those things, like he's as the pressure or the urge and then you 381 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:15.240 feel like, okay, I feel seen. I'm so much more attracted you 382 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.799 now because you allowed me to have this conversation with you. So now you're 383 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:23.000 all I need again. Right. But my bigger concern was that meeting him 384 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:26.359 at such a young age. How old WED twenty two. Was Twenty Two, 385 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.160 twenty two and read twenty one now, so thy two. So meeting 386 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:36.799 him at age twenty two, my concern was this guy's great, but he's 387 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:41.680 changing daily, weekly right now and growing so quickly that I don't know if 388 00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:45.559 I can fall fully in love with him, because I was at that time. 389 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:49.599 I was almost thirty and so or not I was thirty, I was 390 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:55.440 thirty three, thirty two. You were thirty two time. Okay, well, 391 00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:56.200 I'm nine and a half years older than you, so you may have 392 00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:00.839 thirty on anyone. So I'm really good with numbers. Also, you guys 393 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.960 aren't great with maths. So good at it right. Just play it back 394 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:06.440 and he's the one that's question you. When else I'm terrible. I'm trash 395 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:08.160 at math. It's fine, but I'm like, I'm kind of I'm in 396 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:11.799 my early S. I know who I am, for the most part, 397 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.400 at least I thought I did. But my concern was that he was just 398 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:18.680 going to change and not be and he should. He should be allowed to 399 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:21.799 should be allowed to grow up and discover who he is. So it took 400 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:23.920 me a solid for five years to really be like I'm in this thing, 401 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:26.400 but like, okay, I'm going to marry this man. Yeah, because 402 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.400 I have of them. I change for the better, Um, and for 403 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.960 the most part. I'm kidding, I'm so kiddy. I love you, 404 00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:38.079 Adore you. I was like, wait a minute, and now I'm fabulous 405 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:44.359 and wonderful and you know, I'm just amazing. And this is the thing 406 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:47.480 you guys will continue to change. Yeah, it's like inevitable. I'm not 407 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:49.880 the same person I was a year ago. I'm not the same person exactly 408 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:53.960 three years ago. So change is inevitable. I think it's all about when 409 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.319 year in a marriage and when you're in that kind of like committed relationship, 410 00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:03.559

keeping keeping it, the relationship as a priority, so that while you are 411 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:08.200 growing personally, the partnership is also a big part of that. Yeah, 412 00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:11.880 but it is a part of it. That's real. It's like if, 413 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:15.680 if me and cloudy you ended up going on different paths and and growing in 414 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.319 different ways, than that's a conversation that needs to happen because ultimately we're not 415 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:22.519 following through on our shop dropping gems today, lessons and if you're single or 416 00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:25.960 if you're newly dating, somebody could be listened to this thing and share with 417 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:27.440 every single one of your friends vast Lee. This is the key to a 418 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:30.559 successful marriage. Apparently, completely agree. Did I say sex, soul, 419 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:34.319 successful, successful, successful, I can't say. I can't say it, 420 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:40.599 but I successful. Looks Oh successful. Do you have a successful marriage? 421 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:44.079 That's what that's good. That's good thing. All right, let's secret. 422 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:48.160 All right, anonymous female, I told my husband that I went began, 423 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.920 but I actually didn't, and I eat meat when he's at work. That's 424 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:59.240 funny. That's funny. That's my favorite one so far. Petty Patty. 425 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:02.440 Wait, wait it. So he must be a Vegan. Like, why 426 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:04.559 would she like? Yes, I'm also Vegan, honey. Why would she 427 00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:08.240 say that if he weren't also a Vegan? Way, so, oh my 428 00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:11.519 God, it's hilarious. Well, you know, the funny thing is I've 429 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.200 as so I have nothing. I have friends who are vegans. Get frames 430 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.680 were pescetarian's. Like, again, I'm not gonna judge your condemn anyone's dietary 431 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.359 choices. Yeah, I just don't trust them. No, I'm kidding, 432 00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:26.599 but I will say. I will say for whatever reason. So I go 433 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.200 through phases. Sarah, I love Bacon like I have a unhelped, no, 434 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:36.200 like into I love it. This is not sponsored, but Niman Ranch 435 00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:38.039 Baker. Oh my guys, like ten bucks of pack. It's like never 436 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.720 time slices. It is so good. He he went through a phase where 437 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.920 I would come home from work. I host a national radio show. I'm 438 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.559 at work at zero am every day, low key thirty. I'm always late, 439 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:53.160 but I would get home at Zeno am fifteen and he's got four, 440 00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:56.039 five strips of Bake. Okay, first well, four is the Max because 441 00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:59.759 the the strips are so thick you can't put five. And I can't even 442 00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:00.440 I can't tell you. I would ask him like Oh, could I have 443 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.880 could I have some? He like look at me, glare at me, 444 00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.759 begrudgingly give me one Max. Okay, let me defend myself in the in 445 00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.720 the Court of Sarah. Would'll let me defend myself really fast. Okay, 446 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:17.920 because judge would. Okay, here we go. Uh So, the Bacon. 447 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.759 It literally is ten dollars for a pack and they're only are like eight 448 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.440 pieces, and I'vetablished this. There's no but there's eight pieces of the path 449 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.880 explaining why I didn't want to give you a piece of dollar. There's any 450 00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.079 exactly. And so I'm like, I paid for this and I cook these 451 00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:36.039 pieces. And here's the thing. Sometimes he comes home at ten fifteen, 452 00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:38.920 sometimes he comes home at thirty or twelve. So I'm thinking these are my 453 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:44.000 pieces and the he walks in, I'm like, so bad, now you 454 00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:47.920 understand. So hates sharing food. So now he's there's my take. Yes, 455 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.960 here's my peek because I one love Bacon and to understand about the sharing 456 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.240 food thing. Here we go cloudy. Oh, he will let me eat 457 00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.759 anything off of he's Italian. He's Italian, his family style. Of course 458 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.319 he doesn't even care. And then I'm like always like, m but that's 459 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:07.839 like my piece of Bacon. But I I think I'm you know, in 460 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.119 a way I'm like, well, if he does it for me, I'll 461 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.000 do it for him. So, you know, it's one piece of Bacon 462 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:15.480 to show that I want to share his you know, his have his taste 463 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.640 buds, have a party too. He can take it for you. Listen. 464 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.200 No, no, this is rarely apparently the judge whittle show has been 465 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:27.319 canceled Aty burdicks that were recently made are invalid. No, envoid. Thank 466 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:33.519 you. Before we get to Sarah's secret, we're going to do this last 467 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.279 secret. Anonymous female. I'm Mad Lee in love with my husband and I 468 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.279 check him out on the regular and my dirty fantasies are of him. Oh 469 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.079 that's what's very wholesome secret. I don't know. That's a good sort of 470 00:29:45.160

--> 00:29:48.359 secret. That should well, it shouldn't be a secret to your husband, 471 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.079 and that's the key here. Yeah, you need to let your husband know 472 00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.279 you feel that way about it. She might have him those Spanish she might 473 00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:57.480 be yes, because she might be thinking to herself that might weird him out 474 00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:00.599 of it if I'm too aggressive at but when you listen, and that's it 475 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.839 goes back to that talk that you and I had years ago, that you 476 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.000 shared earlier in the pod. Yeah, when you really open up about the 477 00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:11.319 deep dark kinky stuff. Yeah, because most people are afraid of that, 478 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.119 but we all have the thoughts, we all have the desires and the fantasies. 479 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.200 And and when you really actually open up about this stuff, when he's 480 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.640 let me know some things that he feels about me before in the past, 481 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:23.720 I'm like, HMM, damn, like Damn, you want to do that? 482 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.240 Oh wait, that's so hot. I produce their frank they added they 483 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.799 wrote me a note, because it's a Google Docu see our notes, and 484 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:32.799 and frank added a no. He's like there's more to the secret, it 485 00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:37.680 says. And also I enjoy, for one of the fantasies I enjoy in 486 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:44.240 my fantasy him taking a plant, a potted plant, pulling the worms out 487 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:48.839 and as sharing it. Lady in the tramp style. Wait, what, 488 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.519 this just got real weird. I just didn't met, I just couldn't made 489 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.240 that. My God, you're Si made it up. We're gonna got a 490 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:02.240 commercial break and then Sarah it's gonna come back with her secret. I hate 491 00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:11.920 you. Weddings off. All right, just the moment you've all been waiting 492 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.440 for. We're back. This is confessed your mess. You've had a fantastic 493 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:21.480 show. Our Girl Rude Unicorns, Sarah Whittle, has been giving US relationship 494 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.920 and marriage advice as yeah as we plan our weddings been a bit of a 495 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:29.599 therapy session. A really, really really has one of and we're just trying 496 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.440 to get on your level because, because, honey, that wedding in Italy, 497 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:37.680 pre pandemic and a castle, was the thing of fairy tales. So 498 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.279 we're loving having you here. But you didn't come here just to hang out 499 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.559 with us and just to sort of give advice to others or laugh at others, 500 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.720 as we often do. You came to also confess your mess. So 501 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:55.200 I'm curious to know the secret, the confession that you have for us that 502 00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:59.480 you've not shared anywhere else. Dish it. No, no, not now. 503 00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:00.480 We gotta wait, wait, wait, we gotta do. We every 504 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:02.480 week. So so we got to do our thing. Okay, here's the 505 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:05.519 thing. We're trying to do a thing. You know how I've only done 506 00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:07.440 this for a couple of months now. So it's time to do our thing. 507 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:12.359 You Ready for Sarah? Sarah with already Sarah wittle. It's time to 508 00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:20.720 confess your mess. MMMM well, that was good, so nice and like 509 00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:25.160 a nice tone sexty. H Okay, my confession. I had to think 510 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:29.759 of what confession I'm okay sharing with public. Okay, because I will be 511 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:31.920 honest, I used to be a very big mess. When I first moved 512 00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:37.720 to La I had recently gotten out of a pretty long term relationship, so 513 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:43.599 I was ready to have fun, kiss a lot of boys and really I 514 00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:46.279 was like having a lot of fun on the dating APPs as well, because 515 00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:50.400 I'm a big and extrovert. So I was like let's mate paint all. 516 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:52.799 What was your favorite APP? I've never, I've only ever been on grinder 517 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:53.640 and that was straight up for a hook up. But what was your favorite 518 00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:57.960 APP? quickly, I don't think I had a favorite APP. I had 519 00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:02.759 some apps that I really really just wised. Coffee Meats Bagel was just learn 520 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.400 about this deal. I'm just so. We just found out about COP death, 521 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.200 a real thing. Apparently, definite know about it. That's where I 522 00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:15.359 heard about cane. All right, on confessional. This has been out for 523 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.440 years. It was I mean it was out when I was dating and like 524 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.279 twenty and fifteen copy, but it was very it was very I think it 525 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:27.160 was pretty early on and it's like, I know, I know, grinder, 526 00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.160 scruff and tender. That's it. Pass while. Okay, back to 527 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:35.400 your secret, count yes, yeah, so my secret was was I was, 528 00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.640 at that time in my life, having a lot of fun, kissing 529 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.559 a lot of people a lot, and I was a big commitment folks. 530 00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.039 Still I am. I

cannot commit to anything, and when I first met 531 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:51.160 Cloudio, I thought he was just going to be this hot, sexy Italian 532 00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.839 accent and man that I'd see only a couple of times. Turns out that 533 00:33:55.039 --> 00:34:00.680 were married for three years. So that's my my confession, that I originally 534 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.079 thought he was just a hot hook up and now we're married. Wait, 535 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.440 you're telling us right now that cloudio, your husband, who you married in 536 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:09.639 a castle an idiot, literally three years ago, was a booty call at 537 00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:15.079 first. That's all you planned. Yep, wait, does he know that? 538 00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.679 Now, just like this, he love that. Oh, we were 539 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.000 both doing that to each other. I think, like we were both like 540 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:24.079 just having fun. Think it very attracted to each other, yeahing each other's 541 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.039 company. And then it was like, after a couple more times of hanging 542 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.920 out, we're like this can this is like easy, this is fun, 543 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:35.280 this is everything. And then, like you know, three months later we 544 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:37.760 were like are we together? Are we not? And then eventually we kind 545 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.320 of like broke through after we have that initial conversation of like what are we 546 00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.880 doing? And then since then we kind of just played everything by ear. 547 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:51.599 Don't really went with our gut and what we were compelled out of each other 548 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:53.880 to do together as a relationship. And here we are. I know that's 549 00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:58.119 actually super, super real. And if you're listening, if you're single or 550 00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.599 if you're like just dating somebody right now and you're in that weird transitional period, 551 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:04.480 we were not really sure. If you're looking for something, you're not 552 00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.639 really sure if you can trust the thing that you just found. It doesn't 553 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.519 always go the way you play in exactly. I I thought I was so 554 00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:14.760 in love with so many people in my s and even not long before a 555 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:16.480 meal. A year or a couple years before meal, I met a guy 556 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:22.039 and it was like lightning. We're at a bar on Sinco to Mao. 557 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:23.280 I felt the energy. We looked across the room. Is One of those 558 00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:25.840 moments. I never had one like that and I walked up to him and 559 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.239 I said do you feel that? He said that energy between us and I 560 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.920 said yeah, it was the strangest thing. I never experienced it. Our 561 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.559 first date was on a Thursday night. I left his apartment on a Monday. 562 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:42.000 It was a long first date. We were just low key getting it 563 00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.480 in all weekend log it was a hot first date. I leave, I 564 00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:47.519 tell my mom I met the man I'm going to marry. Yeah, I 565 00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:52.079 was ahead over heels for this guy. Three months later it ended in a 566 00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:57.000 fiery just ball of it was terrible. Literally it was a Ras, a 567 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.199 sunset and whole apartment stop it. But he was just he was not the 568 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.599 man I thought he was. I fell hard and I fell out of it 569 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:08.119 very quickly. Never spoke to him again and with a meal, I was 570 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:12.360 not looking. Let me let me tell this part with the millie. Was 571 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.360 Not looking and also when we first got together. I think Aj just have 572 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.480 a pattern for giving himself in relationships and he got into a relationship with me 573 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:21.159 not really wanted to be in a relationship with me, and then he kind 574 00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:22.679 of like stayed what we were and he was like, yeah, we were 575 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:27.440 friends for like four or five months before anything, before even a date, 576 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.079 though. Yeah, and so it did kind of it kind of snuck up 577 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:31.719 on me. He showed me, he showed me his junk outside one time, 578 00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:36.559 just so I knew he was working with out by a car, and 579 00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.559 I was like, I was like, Whoa, okay, I'll keep resiling 580 00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:44.679 this, but, Aj, what a style. I know that was why 581 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:45.800 that was. That was the priest that we're not gonna do anything. I'm 582 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.840 not going to kiss you, not that we can hugs, but like hey, 583 00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.400 just just eat what I'm working with. Bigaboo. There you go. 584 00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:57.599 That's hilarious. It worked. Lis It nine years later and he is not 585 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.159 going anywhere. Wait, okay, so, Sarah, I can't believe you 586 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.840 just told that. For every a week, you know, we confess everything. 587 00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:06.840 So you're doing OK. Here's here's what's funny. He's bled like he's 588 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:12.079 bright red blessing right now because he always reveals all of my secrets everything without 589 00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.079 asking me. So I'm glad that I finally had one come out where he 590 00:37:15.199 -->

00:37:17.159 is actually turning red right now. Yeah, he did that little approve. 591 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:20.400 Your Mom's going to listen that, you know, like you're pulling your Dick 592 00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.639 out outside. Okay, Um, so that just did it. I did 593 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:25.400 it. His mom sounds like a by the way, though, I did 594 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:29.800 so, Sarah. For every single episode we like to ask our as, 595 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.039 we like to ask our guests, to give us their takeaway of the day, 596 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.039 something that you took away from this podcast that really resonated with you, 597 00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.519 or something silly. It doesn't really matter. or he can just drag us 598 00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:42.360 if you want to. That's fine too. Yeah, whatever you want to 599 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:45.239 do. Well, I will say this stood out. A meal is like 600 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.760 a little actor over here. He pranked us. He did a little actor. 601 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.960 Yeah, I don't know, you have to like little acting there also. 602 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:53.800 Know, Sara, I'll say this. I'll say this exactly. I 603 00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:55.199 know what you're going to say. What am I going to say? He 604 00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:59.320 won best actor and hi, I share did and he played every role and 605 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.760 there's like senior there all the lead male roles. I played three three play 606 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:07.159 lead roles. So in between scenes, like when we were go backstage West 607 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:09.400 Lake High School, Atlanta, Georgia. Dr Luckett, thank you so much 608 00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:13.519 for the opportunity. She Real Luckett. She's amazing. Somebody also pushed him 609 00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:15.079 off stage one time and he broke both his racey. We're focusing on the 610 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.079 positive here. I played the three lead roles. I will go back stage 611 00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:21.599 or change my shirt or a wig on, do this and then I'll come 612 00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:23.960 back out and it was me at like a little fake mustache from wanting to 613 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:28.239 fake beard, and then my long hair wig was actually my mom's wig. 614 00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:31.800 Anyway, amazing. Listen, when you got it, you got it. 615 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.400 Yeah, so you know, you guys should didn't know you were a theater 616 00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:37.559 kid. I was a total theater kid. To listen. Listen, y'all 617 00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:39.840 never invited me over to the smash side. I really could have. I 618 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.079 really could have executed my talents over there just to show I was just the 619 00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:45.519 entertainment news. But I have, I have my acting skills to I just 620 00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.559 don't use them and missed opportunity. knows. I know. All Right, 621 00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:52.519 Sarah, you're wonderful. We love you so much. CONGRATS on your move. 622 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:54.760 CONGRATS in your three year in a versary. We didn't even talk about 623 00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.480 your cats. We don't like cats. That's probably one. grats on turning 624 00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:02.760 the turning the occasional booty call into a marriage, I know. Thank you 625 00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:06.599 for a joining us and confessing your mess. Yes, and I'm so sorry 626 00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.119 that your show, judge what it was, canceled. Yeah, Oh, 627 00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:13.519 it's okay, I think I will survive. I have a lot of other 628 00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:19.159 ideas of my sleep to the exact. Wow. Thank you so much for 629 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:23.039 having me. If you guys seriously have any questions about planning the wedding, 630 00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.639 or if you need a pep talk or if you need me to talk you 631 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:30.239 off a ledge, please reach out and text me. Emil, and I 632 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.000 you are you were such a close friend during this last year, being remote, 633 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.119 and it's so weird that we like fairly even hung out in real life, 634 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:39.000 but I feel so close to you guys and I love watching what you're 635 00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:44.000 doing on social media and I'm always here to support so y'all are killing it. 636 00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:45.639 Love You, guys, love you, sir. Okay, that's the 637 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:54.039 Promo. Yeah, other problem. Confess your mess is a straw help media 638 00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:58.760 podcast produced by Ryan Tiltson and frank driscool. Thank you so much for listening 639 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.840 and don't forget to subscribe and share. And if you have a secret and 640 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:06.000 want to share, go to confess your messed out us to submit. Your 641 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:07.679 secret could end up in the show.