התמלול המלא של Issue 666: Lanterns Ep. 6 "Lights Out" Spoiler Review

00:05:02.600 back to work. And, And then come back to it 73 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:05.189 maybe like 30 minutes to an hour later. And, you know, 74 00:05:05.490 --> 00:05:07.589 so I want to watch it on and off. And 75 00:05:07.629 --> 00:05:11.189 so I did that Monday morning. So I dropped off Bree, 76 00:05:11.310 --> 00:05:13.990 got home a little early and decided, let me get 77 00:05:14.250 --> 00:05:16.689 a little bit of work done while everyone's still sleeping. 78 00:05:17.420 --> 00:05:22.560 And I watch Lanterns from, you know, every hour or so. 79 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:26.160 So I, you know, I went through it and I'm 80 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:26.759 glad I did. 81 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:30.930 Well, and before we get into our housekeeping and stuff, 82 00:05:31.259 --> 00:05:33.480 Did you think like I did? Like, this is only 83 00:05:33.500 --> 00:05:35.500 episode five, but it feels like a season finale? 84 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:40.139 Yeah. I mean, we kind of touched upon this the 85 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:43.930 other day or the last week where we're kind of like, okay, 86 00:05:44.430 --> 00:05:48.129 what are they going to deal with after this episode? 87 00:05:49.009 --> 00:05:52.990 And I mean, this is probably the last time we 88 00:05:53.529 --> 00:05:59.149 see Hal Jordan alive, right? And I think I mentioned 89 00:05:59.170 --> 00:06:02.350 this last week, they don't resolve anything. And so episode 90 00:06:02.389 --> 00:06:03.829 six looks like it's going to be in the future 91 00:06:04.069 --> 00:06:09.990 or in the quote present day. And yeah, the preview 92 00:06:10.089 --> 00:06:13.290 of this episode from the previous week, we're just kind 93 00:06:13.310 --> 00:06:15.470 of sitting there like, man, is this, are we coming 94 00:06:15.490 --> 00:06:18.689 to a head with the Manhunter? And so now there's 95 00:06:18.910 --> 00:06:20.470 something bigger out there. 96 00:06:21.589 --> 00:06:22.069 The mystery. 97 00:06:22.129 --> 00:06:24.540 I mean, they teased it at the very beginning of 98 00:06:24.569 --> 00:06:29.199 the season with Hal Jordan dying. So yeah, the next, what, 99 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.850 three episodes are going to be visiting the death of 100 00:06:32.870 --> 00:06:36.290 Hal Jordan. So it makes sense as we're kind of 101 00:06:36.310 --> 00:06:39.230 going along. But they set it up to where the 102 00:06:39.689 --> 00:06:42.389 Manhunter was going to be the finale, right? Right. 103 00:06:42.889 --> 00:06:46.490 Not so much. Not so fast, my friend. There's so 104 00:06:46.569 --> 00:06:48.750 much here. And we'll get to all of that here 105 00:06:48.810 --> 00:06:52.000 shortly because, yeah, this was a wild episode. And it's 106 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:55.420 only episode five. But before we get to any of that, 107 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:57.839 I do want to remind folks that wherever you're listening 108 00:06:57.879 --> 00:06:59.279 to us right now, if you could leave us a 109 00:06:59.319

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But 125 00:07:54.589 --> 00:07:58.250 of course, Tokyo X is a celebration of Japanese culture, 126 00:07:58.410 --> 00:08:03.920 both traditional and Anime, gaming, food, fashion, music, car culture, guests. 127 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:06.459 There's so much to do and so much to see. 128 00:08:06.860 --> 00:08:09.500 And we've talked about the guests a bit, but Dante 129 00:08:09.550 --> 00:08:11.550 Bosco being one of the main ones that you'll know, 130 00:08:11.910 --> 00:08:14.529 that folks may recognize. And the first time ever where 131 00:08:14.689 --> 00:08:18.250 all the major voices for Goku will be in one place. 132 00:08:18.310 --> 00:08:26.220 Sean Schimel, Masako Nozawa, Mario Castaneda, and Ancora. the American, Japanese, Spanish, 133 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.589 and Indian voice actors all together in celebration of Mazako's 134 00:08:31.029 --> 00:08:35.490 90th birthday. We talked to Naoki Yoshida, the founder of 135 00:08:35.529 --> 00:08:38.090 the event. That'll be releasing on the podcast feed very soon. 136 00:08:38.970 --> 00:08:41.269 But yeah, you can get your tickets over at Eventbrite, 137 00:08:41.549 --> 00:08:45.480 and you can find out more about the festival at tokyonightfest.com. 138 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:49.539 Yeah, and like we mentioned this last week, or I 139 00:08:49.580 --> 00:08:53.059 mentioned this last week, where tickets for kids under five 140 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:56.190 are free. And I know a lot of people have 141 00:08:56.250 --> 00:08:58.990 kids and it's on a weekend and you want to 142 00:08:59.450 --> 00:09:01.210 go do something as a family. This is a great 143 00:09:01.250 --> 00:09:03.750 event to go to. And if your kids, you know, 144 00:09:03.789 --> 00:09:06.549 between six and 10 tickets are only $ 7. So this 145 00:09:06.610 --> 00:09:08.769 is a, it's a very, very cool event. And if 146 00:09:08.820 --> 00:09:12.139 you're on, if you don't have kids, they have events 147 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:14.480 that are going to be outside of this outside of 148 00:09:14.500 --> 00:09:16.659 the day stuff. They, they're going to have music and 149 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:19.519 they're going to have like concerts and stuff like that. 150 00:09:19.539 --> 00:09:21.529 It's going to be very, very cool. And if you're 151 00:09:21.549 --> 00:09:23.559 a foodie, there's a lot of food there. They just 152 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:27.700 added a bunch of different food vendors on top of 153 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:30.240 what they had. And shout out to one of my 154 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:34.899 best friend's brother owns Cow Bow. And the Cow Bow location, 155 00:09:34.940 --> 00:09:38.299 I think, is only in Katy, Asia Town, inside of 156 00:09:38.460 --> 00:09:42.419 H Mart. And so if you're big fans of Bow's, 157 00:09:42.820 --> 00:09:47.720 like those steamed buns. Those are good. Yeah, he makes 158 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:51.529 all sorts of like... fusion bowels and stuff like that 159 00:09:51.549 --> 00:09:55.919 there's like kimchi bulgogi and there's a different bunch of 160 00:09:55.940 --> 00:09:57.909 like banh mi ones and stuff like that so they 161 00:09:57.950 --> 00:10:00.929 have that they added that the wagyu dog hdx is 162 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:04.940 out there yo-yo drinks sento sentori chi is really good 163 00:10:04.980 --> 00:10:08.899 if you want to taste some japanese sandwiches and there's 164 00:10:09.059 --> 00:10:12.379 jinya and nori nori sushi bar so there's a bunch 165 00:10:12.419 --> 00:10:14.610 of stuff out there that you can kind of check out. 166 00:10:14.870 --> 00:10:16.820 And it's one of those events that are going to 167 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:18.980 be very fun to go to. There's a lot to 168 00:10:19.019 --> 00:10:22.200 do for everybody. If you like playing video games, there's 169 00:10:22.299 --> 00:10:26.379 a dedicated arcade section. There's a samurai exhibit if you're 170 00:10:26.419 --> 00:10:28.279 into that kind of stuff. So yeah, it's going to 171 00:10:28.299 --> 00:10:29.919 be a very, very cool and fun event. 172 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:31.059 Yeah, for sure. 173 00:10:31.299 --> 00:10:34.679 And some of the other guests that'll be there, Gina Darling, 174 00:10:35.460 --> 00:10:39.120 which folks may know from social media and streaming and whatnot, 175 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:43.440 a lot of cosplayers. The voice of Beerus, Jason Douglas, 176 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:47.100 will be there. I mean, just more voice actors, more 177 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:50.500 cosplay illustrators, a lot of things, a lot of people 178

00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:53.919 to go see and check out over at Tokyo. Tokyo 179 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.289 X happening September 26th and 27th. Get your tickets at 180 00:10:57.389 --> 00:11:02.529 Eventbrite or just go to tokyonightfest.com to find out more details. 181 00:11:02.830 --> 00:11:04.190 And then if you want to just win a pair 182 00:11:04.210 --> 00:11:07.129 of tickets, listen to me this Friday beginning at 1130 a.m. 183 00:11:08.450 --> 00:11:11.429 on ESPN 97.5 during What to Watch, I'll be giving 184 00:11:11.460 --> 00:11:14.720 away another pair. I won't be giving a pair to 185 00:11:15.100 --> 00:11:20.759 Hal Jordan because, wow, what a douche. Now let's talk 186 00:11:20.779 --> 00:11:25.740 about Lanterns. Episode 5 called Lights Out. Of course, full 187 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:28.740 spoilers ahead. If you haven't watched the episode, tune away 188 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:30.279 for the rest of this podcast because that's all it 189 00:11:30.620 --> 00:11:31.779 is the rest of the way. 190 00:11:31.980 --> 00:11:40.570 Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. You've been warned, all right? 191 00:11:59.269 --> 00:12:03.970 Was so fixated on taking out the Manhunter. We understood 192 00:12:04.090 --> 00:12:06.470 why Zoe was doing the things that she was doing. 193 00:12:06.830 --> 00:12:09.460 We understand a little bit of why Hal was doing 194 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:12.159 the things that he was doing. So a very interesting 195 00:12:12.259 --> 00:12:16.759 episode that did not let up from character deaths to 196 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:20.820 action to more dramatic, just emotional moments. 197 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:22.000 It had everything. 198 00:12:22.789 --> 00:12:25.679 Yeah, I don't know where to begin, man. Maybe we 199 00:12:25.700 --> 00:12:28.879 begin with the relationship that is Hal Jordan and Jon 200 00:12:28.940 --> 00:12:34.379 Stewart that is essentially, I mean, as of the end 201 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:38.350 of last episode, episode four, and to this one, you 202 00:12:38.370 --> 00:12:44.620 would say it's not repairable, inrepairable. I think that one 203 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:47.720 of those additive lines from Batman where I don't have 204 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:49.879 to save, I'm not going to kill you, but I 205 00:12:49.899 --> 00:12:51.899 don't have to save you kind of thing. And he 206 00:12:52.019 --> 00:12:54.830 used him as bait to lure the Manhunter there and 207 00:12:55.470 --> 00:12:59.129 nice shooting by John and that fight sequence, the hand 208 00:12:59.169 --> 00:13:02.909 to hand. And this is a Green Lantern show. And 209 00:13:02.950 --> 00:13:06.789 we have seen instances where there have been, you know, 210 00:13:06.860 --> 00:13:10.500 even in this episode where There's the use of the ring, right, 211 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:14.840 a lot. And I do like the creative decision, and 212 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:18.600 they talked about this from constructing the episode. They

talked 213 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:21.860 about how they wanted to just make it hand-to-hand. And, 214 00:13:22.460 --> 00:13:25.399 you know, if you go into this hand-to-hand, there is 215 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:29.139 absolutely no way Hal Jordan wins this fight. No. Yeah, 216 00:13:29.379 --> 00:13:33.809 and he was very outgunned. But, like, one of the 217 00:13:33.850 --> 00:13:37.470 things about Hal is the determination and the grit. It's... 218 00:13:39.149 --> 00:13:43.169 It's very admirable, and you could see why he was 219 00:13:43.210 --> 00:13:46.210 able to take Sinestro down. You could see why just 220 00:13:46.269 --> 00:13:50.210 the determination and sheer will of this man kept him 221 00:13:50.269 --> 00:13:54.889 in the fight, and he could probably tell you before 222 00:13:54.909 --> 00:13:57.649 they even fought that he would never win a hand-to-hand 223 00:13:57.669 --> 00:14:00.740 with Jon Stewart, but you know what? He's going to 224 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:03.139 hurt Jon in the process, and he's going to give 225 00:14:03.179 --> 00:14:05.059 it his all, and he's not going to give up 226 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:09.850 or give in. So I really do admire that about Hal. 227 00:14:10.850 --> 00:14:14.450 And I think that they did a beautiful job with 228 00:14:15.250 --> 00:14:21.610 telling the relationship between the two and then climaxing in 229 00:14:21.649 --> 00:14:25.110 this episode. And we all knew at the very beginning 230 00:14:25.149 --> 00:14:28.230 of the series when they were interacting with each other 231 00:14:28.269 --> 00:14:31.580 that this was not going to be a kumbaya relationship 232 00:14:31.929 --> 00:14:35.940 at the end. And yeah, it wasn't. and it isn't, 233 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:40.879 and I think that we will never get a resolution 234 00:14:41.059 --> 00:14:41.840 between these two. 235 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:47.500 Yeah, obviously we got the beginning where it shows how 236 00:14:47.610 --> 00:14:51.210 talking to John as he's stuck in the car and 237 00:14:51.269 --> 00:14:55.389 just leaving him there, and obviously John is very angry 238 00:14:55.590 --> 00:15:00.830 in that moment, leading to eventually him blowing up and 239 00:15:01.429 --> 00:15:04.669 being burned all over his body. And then later on 240 00:15:04.710 --> 00:15:07.850 in the episode when he finally just takes the ring 241 00:15:08.490 --> 00:15:11.250 from Hal. But the angle I want to approach it 242 00:15:11.289 --> 00:15:14.029 from is that throughout the course of this episode, it 243 00:15:14.070 --> 00:15:17.009 was building to that moment of where John finally gets 244 00:15:17.100 --> 00:15:21.360 the ring. But when he gets it, he felt nothing. 245 00:15:21.580 --> 00:15:27.559 He felt empty. And instead of having this heroic moment 246 00:15:27.580 --> 00:15:31.220 of him wearing the ring, it felt like a great, 247 00:15:31.379 --> 00:15:34.639 I got the ring, but this wasn't a good way 248 00:15:34.659 --> 00:15:36.799 to go about it. This, this didn't turn out how 249 00:15:36.860 --> 00:15:38.960 I wanted it to, how I wanted it to turn 250 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:40.580 out or anything like that. 251 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:41.759 And it. 252 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:47.129 Just made me think of like classic reluctant hero, which 253 00:15:47.210 --> 00:15:50.269 makes again, John, the perfect choice to be a green 254 00:15:50.309 --> 00:15:53.389 lantern because he doesn't want it for the power because 255 00:15:53.409 --> 00:15:56.269 he doesn't want it, you know, for all this gratitude 256 00:15:56.330 --> 00:16:00.240 and glory and this and that, like he, or excuse me, 257 00:16:00.299 --> 00:16:04.820 John wants it for that. And, just having him like 258 00:16:05.340 --> 00:16:09.840 slowly go through this hero's journey to where he'll obviously 259 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:13.019 get the ring later on, whether it's in episode eight 260 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:16.990 or whatever the case may be. But I just appreciated 261 00:16:17.049 --> 00:16:20.690 the journey that it, this, this series has taken John 262 00:16:20.929 --> 00:16:25.309 on to help us more than anybody else. Understand John 263 00:16:25.370 --> 00:16:27.590 is the perfect person for, for the ring when he 264 00:16:27.649 --> 00:16:28.450 eventually wears it. 265 00:16:29.149 --> 00:16:35.539 Yeah. And man, as this was happening, I was sitting 266 00:16:35.570 --> 00:16:39.970 there like, you can, to me, you can ruin the 267 00:16:40.029 --> 00:16:45.830 entire series by one singular event. And that was for 268 00:16:46.269 --> 00:16:50.129 Jon to basically take the ring and recite the oath 269 00:16:50.889 --> 00:16:53.559 and he's the lantern from here on out. And I 270 00:16:53.580 --> 00:16:55.799 was sitting there, I was pleading, I was like, please 271 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:58.840 don't make it go this way. It almost felt like, 272 00:16:59.960 --> 00:17:02.279 and I think this was good writing and direction where 273 00:17:02.299 --> 00:17:07.349 he had The Manhunter heart. He had the lantern. He 274 00:17:07.390 --> 00:17:12.470 had the ring. He was making his way to see 275 00:17:12.490 --> 00:17:17.009 the Guardian. And he put everything on the table. And 276 00:17:17.029 --> 00:17:21.289 I kind of held out hope. And I kind of 277 00:17:21.410 --> 00:17:25.230 knew that they were probably not going this direction. But 278 00:17:25.269 --> 00:17:28.750 we've always, you know, we've been surprised before where they 279 00:17:28.789 --> 00:17:31.369 make creative decisions. We're just kind of like very disappointed. 280 00:17:31.930 --> 00:17:35.910 And I am so glad. I am so glad that 281 00:17:36.019 --> 00:17:41.660 he rejected the ring. That one action, I think, completely 282 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:47.819 solidifies my respect and just gratitude for this character. And 283 00:17:47.859 --> 00:17:52.440 they've been building Jon Stewart up, and he's been living 284

00:17:52.500 --> 00:17:55.759 up to who he is, and his reputation precedes himself. 285 00:17:56.539 --> 00:17:59.740 And I'm so glad that the direction that they went 286 00:17:59.779 --> 00:18:01.700 with this character, because they could have ruined it in 287 00:18:01.819 --> 00:18:04.569 one singular moment, but I'm glad that they made the 288 00:18:04.630 --> 00:18:10.799 decision to not have him wear the ring. And, and yeah, I, I, and, 289 00:18:10.890 --> 00:18:14.200 and before this episode, I would say, I think how 290 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:16.299 was my favorite of the two, but like just that 291 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:19.579 one singular action of him rejecting the ring, I mean, 292 00:18:19.619 --> 00:18:22.240 it's neck and neck and I would, I could choose 293 00:18:22.579 --> 00:18:24.670 any one of those two to be my green lantern 294 00:18:24.690 --> 00:18:26.390 and I'd be happy with it. Like, I think it's, 295 00:18:27.339 --> 00:18:29.500 He's he proved a lot with that one action. And 296 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:33.089 I and I and I know probably people feel differently. 297 00:18:33.289 --> 00:18:36.250 And I'm sure that she at least probably feels the 298 00:18:36.309 --> 00:18:39.349 opposite of what I do, because, you know, talking to her, 299 00:18:39.369 --> 00:18:41.289 I think she has a lot of respect for John 300 00:18:41.349 --> 00:18:43.869 and the way the character he is. And I don't 301 00:18:43.890 --> 00:18:47.230 know where you are with this. But but, yeah, I 302 00:18:47.420 --> 00:18:50.740 thoroughly enjoyed this this character arc and it's come to 303 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:55.029 a crescendo. an apex for Jon Stewart. And yeah, I, 304 00:18:55.230 --> 00:18:58.529 I really, really enjoyed the way that they've created the, 305 00:18:58.789 --> 00:19:00.490 that they've told the story of Jon Stewart. 306 00:19:01.049 --> 00:19:01.890 I've, I've loved it. 307 00:19:01.990 --> 00:19:06.910 It's so layered and so unique in its telling so far. 308 00:19:07.089 --> 00:19:09.390 And I I'm with you. I'm glad that he rejected 309 00:19:09.430 --> 00:19:12.039 the ring because not only was it just that he 310 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.759 felt empty and he felt nothing in that moment. And he, 311 00:19:15.099 --> 00:19:18.299 he doesn't want to become like what how becomes later 312 00:19:18.539 --> 00:19:21.960 on as he, cause he, When you see Hal as 313 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.859 a different person when he had the ring earlier based 314 00:19:25.900 --> 00:19:29.359 off the hologram, the hologram's like, oh, I like John. 315 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:30.039 He's a nice guy. 316 00:19:30.099 --> 00:19:34.460 I met that guy the other day. But this version 317 00:19:34.509 --> 00:19:38.970 of Hal is obviously just, we've talked about it, he's 318 00:19:39.109 --> 00:19:44.670 jaded to no end, cynicism, all this stuff. But John, 319 00:19:46.609 --> 00:19:51.809 the way he goes about telling the Guardians Liana, no, 320

00:19:52.049 --> 00:19:54.549 I don't want the ring. I felt empty, I felt this, 321 00:19:54.609 --> 00:19:57.809 I felt that, was not only him saying that, but 322 00:19:57.869 --> 00:20:01.910 also him choosing something different for himself when nothing to 323 00:20:01.950 --> 00:20:05.420 that point had been really his choice, right? He's always 324 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:10.140 been pushed into different directions by whether it's his parents, 325 00:20:10.460 --> 00:20:14.440 whether it's Liana, whether it's even Zoe and how Zoe, 326 00:20:14.859 --> 00:20:19.569 the man hunter was using their most effective weapon, Quatus 327 00:20:20.750 --> 00:20:25.869 as Anton would say, but like using just everyone's manipulating 328 00:20:25.890 --> 00:20:28.710 them in some way, some form or fashion. And so 329 00:20:29.130 --> 00:20:33.400 this was his, like, I'm doing my own thing. There's 330 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:37.630 so many like liars and manipulators around here that I, 331 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.119 I can't like, I need to do this for myself 332 00:20:41.299 --> 00:20:43.259 as much as it is just a, I don't want 333 00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:44.829 to be like a Hal Jordan one day. 334 00:20:45.910 --> 00:20:46.210 Yeah. 335 00:20:46.710 --> 00:20:52.210 And I think that, um, so, so the reason why 336 00:20:52.269 --> 00:20:57.599 I felt like John's decision could go either way leading 337 00:20:57.650 --> 00:20:59.799 up to that episode, him sitting on that table and 338 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:06.660 accepting Zoe's proposal of like, if I heal you, you're 339 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:11.109 going to, you know, kill, how essentially and and he 340 00:21:11.140 --> 00:21:14.849 accepted it and i understand that he was in very 341 00:21:15.269 --> 00:21:18.509 a grave amount of pain his entire body is burnt 342 00:21:18.569 --> 00:21:21.910 to a crisp um his skin is exposed he's lying 343 00:21:21.930 --> 00:21:24.019 there on the tape on a cold metal table which 344 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:27.700 i would imagine it just burns and i understand that 345 00:21:28.980 --> 00:21:33.920 you know anybody and everybody would take that deal and 346 00:21:33.980 --> 00:21:36.420 so when he took that deal i was like oh 347 00:21:36.549 --> 00:21:41.779 no is this character arc going to deviate from what 348 00:21:41.819 --> 00:21:44.319 I think it's going to do? And I'm glad it didn't. 349 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:47.420 And I wonder if that blood in the eye is 350 00:21:47.460 --> 00:21:49.779 going to come back to bite him in the butt. 351 00:21:50.019 --> 00:21:52.329 And I'm sure it will because the show's written very well. 352 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:55.910 But that's the one thing, that's the one reason why 353 00:21:55.930 --> 00:21:58.250 it kind of gave me pause is because he agreed 354 00:21:58.289 --> 00:22:02.049 to her terms. He ended up turning, he ended up 355 00:22:02.910 --> 00:22:07.200 very unlike of Jon Stewart, giving his word back and 356 00:22:07.579 --> 00:22:09.779 and basically carrying out the mission yeah. 357 00:22:09.660 --> 00:22:13.119 I wonder how he worded the agreement to to her 358 00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:15.559 where it was like i'll take him off the board 359 00:22:15.700 --> 00:22:17.960 or something along those lines where it wasn't like straight 360 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:22.069 up i'm going to murder him just to get it 361 00:22:22.089 --> 00:22:27.329 around that but it but it also felt like john 362 00:22:27.549 --> 00:22:33.289 is realizing what other people like whether he realized it 363 00:22:33.470 --> 00:22:36.650 in the earlier in the episode, or maybe when it 364 00:22:36.700 --> 00:22:40.589 was just crystallized for him in that brief conversation that 365 00:22:40.710 --> 00:22:44.230 he has with Zoe, when he finally has all his 366 00:22:44.269 --> 00:22:46.809 skin back and he talks to her about why she 367 00:22:46.890 --> 00:22:50.089 chose that scan, why she starts from, you know, why 368 00:22:50.130 --> 00:22:52.630 she started where she started, how did people treat her 369 00:22:52.789 --> 00:22:56.519 and talks about that. Like it, I feel like he 370 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:00.480 was understanding more and more about what she was capable of. 371 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:05.119 And then confirming the Abin Sur, uh, was killed by 372 00:23:05.220 --> 00:23:10.250 Zoe just really like triggered something in his brain of, Oh, 373 00:23:10.470 --> 00:23:13.410 I just need to take out the Manhunter there. There 374 00:23:13.450 --> 00:23:16.250 is no stopping them. Cause I think that's what he 375 00:23:16.289 --> 00:23:19.609 was testing as well as can the Manhunter change. And, 376 00:23:19.789 --> 00:23:22.819 but they can't, there's no changing to their programming. So 377 00:23:22.859 --> 00:23:25.660 they will eliminate whoever they deem a threat. And of course, 378 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:30.440 Abin Sur deems, deems, or excuse me, Zoe deemed Abin 379 00:23:30.460 --> 00:23:33.640 Sur a threat, kills them, even though apparently cared for 380 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:37.789 him and all that. Um, but having John go through these, 381 00:23:38.029 --> 00:23:42.109 these routes and, and this complex storytelling made you guess 382 00:23:42.269 --> 00:23:45.299 what direction he was leaning in. And I appreciated those 383 00:23:45.430 --> 00:23:48.640 aspects because yeah, I didn't know earlier in the episode 384 00:23:48.660 --> 00:23:50.799 when he's going to get the gun and which, by 385 00:23:50.819 --> 00:23:54.500 the way, one of my favorite lines in the entire episode, uh, 386 00:23:54.619 --> 00:23:56.390 when he's on the phone with his mom and dad 387 00:23:56.789 --> 00:23:59.589 going to get the gun. As you can imagine, Mama, 388 00:23:59.930 --> 00:24:02.130 I'm mad as hell. And I plan on doing something 389 00:24:02.150 --> 00:24:04.579 about it. But first, I'm going to take that ring 390 00:24:04.619 --> 00:24:07.839 clean off

this MF's finger. So it was like, uh-oh. 391 00:24:07.900 --> 00:24:09.059 He's really like, you know. 392 00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:11.779 The anger and frustration in him has boiled over to 393 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:13.859 the point where he is going to do something drastic 394 00:24:14.339 --> 00:24:18.279 with Hal. And no, it was all part of a 395 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:20.819 larger plan by John, seemingly. 396 00:24:21.420 --> 00:24:25.750 Yeah, I do think because he had time to cool down, 397 00:24:26.509 --> 00:24:29.940 he made the right decision. But... You can't convince me 398 00:24:29.980 --> 00:24:32.039 that if Hal landed right in front of him at 399 00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:34.380 that moment while he was saying that, I think he 400 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:38.640 would have killed him. I do feel like there was 401 00:24:38.700 --> 00:24:43.210 so much rage built up in John that I think 402 00:24:43.269 --> 00:24:49.430 that you could claim insanity. Murder or manslaughter by insanity. 403 00:24:50.289 --> 00:24:54.490 I do think that because he had some time to 404 00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:56.759 cool off, think about it and use him as bait. 405 00:24:57.450 --> 00:25:00.069 right so you don't use somebody as bait unless you 406 00:25:00.130 --> 00:25:03.990 really think this through and he placed that gun he 407 00:25:04.029 --> 00:25:06.089 placed that gun to in a place where he can 408 00:25:06.130 --> 00:25:07.509 get to it very quickly and i was like why 409 00:25:07.549 --> 00:25:09.650 the hell is he running uh-huh why the hell is 410 00:25:09.690 --> 00:25:11.809 he running and he you know obviously you understand why 411 00:25:11.869 --> 00:25:12.509 he was running. 412 00:25:12.690 --> 00:25:14.839 Yeah exactly that's what i was thinking too i was 413 00:25:14.859 --> 00:25:16.819 like why why is he running off oh this is 414 00:25:16.900 --> 00:25:20.500 all part of the the john stewart plan and it 415 00:25:20.539 --> 00:25:24.279 worked it worked perfectly and what a brutal shot too 416 00:25:24.299 --> 00:25:27.980 of the the scope over zoe and like so we 417 00:25:28.019 --> 00:25:31.380 realize that uh-oh like this is crap yeah this is 418 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:35.200 this is it um and then yeah john got john 419 00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:37.440 going through it and taking her out at that moment 420 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:40.160 and then taking the ring and taking the lantern and 421 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:43.700 just just walking through the town poor guy did not 422 00:25:43.740 --> 00:25:47.299 have shoes on for a good chunk of this episode. 423 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:50.180 No and i imagine his feet are just cut up 424 00:25:51.180 --> 00:25:54.880 it's all jacked up But I do think that he's 425 00:25:55.180 --> 00:25:58.920 had the training that he's had has put him through 426 00:25:58.940 --> 00:26:01.720 this kind of stuff. And I imagine he's used to 427 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:03.680 bad conditions on his feet. 428

00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:06.940 And you mentioned it earlier, too, the fight that they have, 429 00:26:07.180 --> 00:26:12.569 Hal and him have. It's just brutal. It's not this 430 00:26:12.829 --> 00:26:18.789 over choreographed thing. It doesn't come down to special weapons 431 00:26:18.990 --> 00:26:22.829 or the ring itself or anything like that. It's just 432 00:26:22.890 --> 00:26:27.630 a knock-down, drag-out fight. Obviously, like you said earlier, John's 433 00:26:27.650 --> 00:26:29.609 going to win that fight nine times out of ten, 434 00:26:29.690 --> 00:26:32.869 especially if the ring is not the equalizer in that moment. 435 00:26:34.099 --> 00:26:37.119 And John showcased that. Now, Hal would get moments where 436 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:39.359 he would be on top for a second or whatever 437 00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:44.000 through a lamp or whatever the case, but when John 438 00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:47.180 tosses him around the room and kicks him through the 439 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:50.220 closet and all that, it felt very much like the 440 00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:54.000 rage-inducing moments of, I just want to wring this dude's 441 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:58.380 neck so much. I love that fight sequence too because, 442 00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.579 and I think they said it in the after episode discussion, 443 00:27:03.380 --> 00:27:06.980 it felt real because it was mainly the two of them, 444 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:12.000 not a lot of overcomplicated over-editing or anything like that. 445 00:27:12.220 --> 00:27:13.720 You felt the force of the punches. 446 00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:16.180 You felt the throws because you could see it was, 447 00:27:16.700 --> 00:27:18.809 for the most part, it was Aaron Pierre and Kyle 448 00:27:18.829 --> 00:27:20.400 Chandler during the fight. 449 00:27:21.529 --> 00:27:24.450 Yeah, that was kind of cool to find that out 450 00:27:24.630 --> 00:27:29.390 as well. You don't have weird... I mean, most fight 451 00:27:29.450 --> 00:27:34.769 scenes in a lot of high-budgeted and well-written and directed stuff, 452 00:27:35.089 --> 00:27:41.089 you can hardly tell it's a double. But there are 453 00:27:41.309 --> 00:27:43.769 tricks to kind of hide faces and stuff. This one, 454 00:27:43.990 --> 00:27:45.750 you see their faces throughout the whole thing, which is 455 00:27:45.769 --> 00:27:48.400 kind of cool and nice. It just goes to a 456 00:27:48.410 --> 00:27:52.309 testament of how invested they are, the two actors, Kyle 457 00:27:52.329 --> 00:27:55.130 Chandler and Aaron Pierre, are in the role and how 458 00:27:55.150 --> 00:27:59.089 much they love the character and trust in each other 459 00:27:59.269 --> 00:28:03.880 to not hit each other's face. So there's that aspect 460 00:28:03.900 --> 00:28:05.059 of it as well. 461 00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:10.279 Yeah, it's such a testament to them and the choreography 462 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.839 to it and to approach it in a way to 463 00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:16.849 where it's done well enough to where you you really 464 00:28:16.910 --> 00:28:20.470 can't tell when or if the stunt performers are used 465 00:28:20.900 --> 00:28:23.519 whereas other things it's like blatantly obvious like the the 466 00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:26.039 wig is completely different or you know whatever the case 467 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:28.660 may be this one you know at least on the 468 00:28:29.019 --> 00:28:31.400 like i re-watched the fight because it was good but 469 00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.250 like on the two two fights two times i watched 470 00:28:34.269 --> 00:28:37.089 through it i never noticed anything right off off the 471 00:28:37.130 --> 00:28:40.549 bat so it's just like they did this so well 472 00:28:40.690 --> 00:28:42.910 and i i love that about the show it takes 473 00:28:42.950 --> 00:28:45.950 these moments of you know, it's big grand scale. You 474 00:28:45.970 --> 00:28:49.500 got a satellite blasting the town and all this, but 475 00:28:49.539 --> 00:28:53.319 you also have two forces of nature and Jon Stewart 476 00:28:53.339 --> 00:28:56.160 and Hal Jordan fighting, fighting each other in that very 477 00:28:56.299 --> 00:28:59.009 end to just a fisticuff fight. It's not like an 478 00:28:59.089 --> 00:29:02.349 alien superpower or anything like that. It's not the black smoke, 479 00:29:02.450 --> 00:29:04.970 even though the black smoke was cooler, cool in the 480 00:29:05.470 --> 00:29:08.990 earlier part of that episode, but it's just the two 481 00:29:09.029 --> 00:29:11.039 of them finding out who's better in that moment. 482 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.769 Yeah, and I do like the balancing act that they've 483 00:29:14.789 --> 00:29:19.910 done with the series so far. They told us, you know, 484 00:29:20.150 --> 00:29:23.950 true detective style, and we're kind of like, uh, okay. 485 00:29:25.430 --> 00:29:27.789 I understand how you can do that, but I feel 486 00:29:27.809 --> 00:29:30.910 like it might be difficult, but they're nailing it so far. Like, 487 00:29:31.529 --> 00:29:35.190 when it needs to be grounded, it's grounded. No, I 488 00:29:35.210 --> 00:29:38.089 take that back. When it needs to be cosmic, it'll 489 00:29:38.130 --> 00:29:40.240 be cosmic, but the rest of the TV shows, about 490 00:29:40.299 --> 00:29:45.200 relationships it's about the the dynamics between the the the 491 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.390 wing rare and someone that's chasing the ring and there's 492 00:29:48.609 --> 00:29:52.289 so many different other tropes that uh i say tropes 493 00:29:52.329 --> 00:29:54.549 it's not a bad thing but like there's different kind 494 00:29:54.589 --> 00:29:57.619 of things that are within the television show and they've 495 00:29:58.109 --> 00:30:00.589 amped it up so well the writing is done so 496 00:30:00.630 --> 00:30:04.730 well the acting like this is a marriage of everything 497 00:30:04.789 --> 00:30:08.519 very very well done and when they need to go

498 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:12.740 cosmic they do and when they don't they don't and 499 00:30:12.779 --> 00:30:16.079 so I think you know less is more and the 500 00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.180 fight sequence I think just kind of put the cherry 501 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.279 on top of everything kind of showing you like you 502 00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:24.309 don't need a lot of cosmic stuff to make it great. 503 00:30:24.420 --> 00:30:28.420 No and you leave the episode leaves how in a 504 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.660 literal and figurative broken state because of what happens of course. 505 00:30:34.339 --> 00:30:38.539 But you see the, the like detriment again, like I 506 00:30:38.579 --> 00:30:42.500 mentioned earlier, you see the difference between the hologram and 507 00:30:42.579 --> 00:30:46.599 current how it there it's like almost night and day 508 00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:50.009 to a certain extent to what has done, what has 509 00:30:50.069 --> 00:30:53.170 been done by, by how, and maybe that's a by-product 510 00:30:53.250 --> 00:30:56.690 of what has happened. what happened with sinestro like has 511 00:30:56.769 --> 00:31:00.029 that caused him to reach this this dark dark point 512 00:31:00.109 --> 00:31:06.789 where he is willing to break rules break um like 513 00:31:06.829 --> 00:31:09.089 put people at risk like there there is an aspect 514 00:31:09.130 --> 00:31:13.130 to his plan where he put innocence at risk with 515 00:31:13.170 --> 00:31:17.559 the satellite just blasting down on the town not planning 516 00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:19.500 ahead of time like i don't know maybe you should 517 00:31:19.539 --> 00:31:23.259 have charged a ring beforehand before you go into this fight. 518 00:31:23.299 --> 00:31:26.579 Just a little thought process here. But just different things 519 00:31:26.619 --> 00:31:35.309 that Hal's done that just makes him this gruff, grumpy, cynical. 520 00:31:35.329 --> 00:31:38.589 I don't know what other words. There's probably other better 521 00:31:38.630 --> 00:31:41.690 words that I could describe it. But he is so like, 522 00:31:41.710 --> 00:31:43.119 you're going to have to rip it from my cold, 523 00:31:43.140 --> 00:31:47.339 dead hands. Why has it gotten to that point for him? 524 00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:52.990 Especially after seeing and knowing what Sinestro had done previously. 525 00:31:53.349 --> 00:31:56.009 Like, I wonder what that element is. Yeah. 526 00:31:56.269 --> 00:31:58.890 I mean, how's the guy that doesn't charge his phone 527 00:31:58.930 --> 00:31:59.910 before he goes to sleep? 528 00:31:59.930 --> 00:32:00.529 A hundred percent. 529 00:32:00.569 --> 00:32:02.349 He just, he just looks at it, just throws on 530 00:32:02.390 --> 00:32:07.440 his bed and just very, um, Maverick like, uh, John, 531 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:09.720 I need, I'm going to need a hundred percent by, 532 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:13.980 by morning. So yeah, those are the, I mean, that's 533 00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.849 the two type of people out there. Right. And so, yeah. Um, 534 00:32:19.059 --> 00:32:23.440 I do understand that character though, which is, and I 535 00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:27.130 appreciate that character with all the flaws that it has, 536 00:32:27.150 --> 00:32:31.529 but also the cockiness of, you know, I'm always right 537 00:32:31.789 --> 00:32:35.910 kind of thing. My gut tells me this, and I 538 00:32:35.970 --> 00:32:37.809 always trust my gut, and my gut is always right. 539 00:32:37.910 --> 00:32:42.529 So yeah, of all the flaws that Hal Jordan has, 540 00:32:42.609 --> 00:32:47.849 I do love the goodness of that character as well. 541 00:32:48.869 --> 00:32:51.549 And John mentioned that he gave up the oath and 542 00:32:51.569 --> 00:32:53.589 betrayed the oath. I don't think he did. I think 543 00:32:54.230 --> 00:32:55.710 at the core of it, the oath is all he 544 00:32:55.769 --> 00:33:00.809 had left. And I think that without the oath, I 545 00:33:00.849 --> 00:33:04.549 don't think he's there. I don't think he's there to 546 00:33:04.589 --> 00:33:07.130 stop a Manhunter. And that's the only thing keeping him, 547 00:33:07.670 --> 00:33:10.329 separating him from Sinestro is the oath. Yeah. 548 00:33:10.589 --> 00:33:12.450 Yeah. That's like the, I think you're right. 549 00:33:12.490 --> 00:33:15.099 That's like the final thing that he's gripping on because 550 00:33:15.150 --> 00:33:16.950 everything else he's disillusioned to. 551 00:33:18.130 --> 00:33:19.509 Especially with the Guardians. 552 00:33:19.549 --> 00:33:22.190 He doesn't trust the Guardians anymore with what they're doing 553 00:33:22.230 --> 00:33:25.710 with Jon and all that. And then, you know, Jon 554 00:33:25.769 --> 00:33:28.029 pointed it out. They never told him the idea was 555 00:33:28.049 --> 00:33:31.450 to replace him at some point. They just wanted Jon 556 00:33:31.490 --> 00:33:33.829 to take the ring. Everyone just wanted Jon to take 557 00:33:33.869 --> 00:33:38.410 the ring, and there was no process to it. And 558 00:33:39.130 --> 00:33:43.309 we still, like, I am curious if Zoe was there 559 00:33:43.849 --> 00:33:47.740 when Abin Sur was killed, did the, I guess the 560 00:33:47.819 --> 00:33:51.240 ring just instantly flew off in that moment. Or did 561 00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.049 Zoe just knowingly like walk away without the ring? 562 00:33:54.089 --> 00:33:54.869 Like, I don't, I don't know. 563 00:33:55.150 --> 00:33:57.849 This is more of a speculative thing, but that, that just, 564 00:33:58.049 --> 00:33:59.430 that thought just occurred to me. 565 00:34:00.470 --> 00:34:03.430 Yeah. I didn't even think about that. I guess it just, uh, 566 00:34:03.569 --> 00:34:07.750 or at least in, in the, in the Ryan Reynolds movie, 567 00:34:07.890 --> 00:34:09.969 the version is just kind of, uh, he just kind 568 00:34:10.030 --> 00:34:10.489 of finds him. 569 00:34:10.570 --> 00:34:11.380 Right. Right. 570

00:34:11.389 --> 00:34:15.030 So, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe he 571 00:34:15.070 --> 00:34:19.760 was the... Maybe the Manhunter, Zoe thought that he died 572 00:34:19.860 --> 00:34:22.500 and it was not going to do... I don't know. 573 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:22.820 Maybe. 574 00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.480 Zoe must have known how the ring operates. 575 00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:26.900 Yeah. 576 00:34:26.940 --> 00:34:29.639 I don't know. Maybe she doesn't. And she just thought 577 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.949 that killing a lantern would just kind of make him 578 00:34:32.989 --> 00:34:36.250 go away. But maybe the ring just kind of found Hal. 579 00:34:36.489 --> 00:34:38.769 I don't know. Or Hal found the ring. I'm not sure. 580 00:34:38.929 --> 00:34:41.289 Yeah, I don't know. That one... Go ahead. 581 00:34:41.309 --> 00:34:43.360 Sorry. No, which I was going to say, which we 582 00:34:43.380 --> 00:34:44.280 don't need answers to. 583 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:45.159 Yeah, no, no. 584 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.239 Those small details, we don't need answers to. We could 585 00:34:47.260 --> 00:34:49.960 just kind of, you know, and which is why I 586 00:34:49.980 --> 00:34:52.320 love the show, is like the small little details you 587 00:34:52.340 --> 00:34:55.059 don't need to know. You could just kind of let 588 00:34:55.099 --> 00:34:58.949 the watcher or the person viewing the show kind of 589 00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.949 draw their own conclusions, which is one of the reasons 590 00:35:01.989 --> 00:35:02.530 why I like the show. 591 00:35:02.849 --> 00:35:06.829 Yeah, because we learned a lot about Zoe in this 592 00:35:06.949 --> 00:35:10.090 episode and how they operate and how they use seduction 593 00:35:10.630 --> 00:35:14.739 as their, like, most effective weapon as, as Anton points 594 00:35:14.780 --> 00:35:16.739 it out in that sequence. 595 00:35:16.340 --> 00:35:17.340 With, with Hal. 596 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.670 But we, we get a better understanding of Zoe was 597 00:35:22.750 --> 00:35:26.349 not killed when they did the switch off when the 598 00:35:26.449 --> 00:35:29.510 guardians felt like the man hunters were too brutal for 599 00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:31.880 whatever reason. And that's one of those things kind of 600 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.639 going back to what you just said. Now, I don't 601 00:35:33.659 --> 00:35:35.840 necessarily need an explanation as to why she was the 602 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.579 only one. That's fine. Like, just tell me that and 603 00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:42.369 I'm good. But then we learned that Abensor seemingly protected her. 604 00:35:43.050 --> 00:35:46.429 She ends up killing him because she can't risk him 605 00:35:46.469 --> 00:35:49.829 going back and telling people about where she's at. And 606 00:35:49.869 --> 00:35:56.480 then she starts building this little setup here in Rushville, Nebraska, 607 00:35:57.179 --> 00:36:02.079 to operate on her own. And once John

gets into 608 00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:07.239 the picture, we understand that she's using him in some ways. Anton, 609 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:11.039 we learned that he had a very deep relationship with 610 00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:15.000 Zoe as well. Tried to have kids, couldn't have kids. 611 00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.119 And yeah, we learned a lot about Zoe's background in 612 00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.260 this episode, and especially from Anton's perspective. 613 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:30.179 Yeah. And I'm trying to understand, I forget his name, 614 00:36:30.300 --> 00:36:36.380 but William's son is not with Zoe, right? Right. Because 615 00:36:36.420 --> 00:36:37.679 Zoe can't reproduce. 616 00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:38.360 Right. 617 00:36:38.980 --> 00:36:45.679 And so I imagine... Okay. So... And then... So... I'm wondering... 618 00:36:45.300 --> 00:36:48.119 And this is the one thing that kind of stood 619 00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:51.190 out to me in this episode was where they made 620 00:36:51.269 --> 00:36:55.789 it an effort to kind of have a last conversation 621 00:36:55.829 --> 00:37:01.530 between the grandson and Zoe. And I'm like... And I've 622 00:37:01.570 --> 00:37:09.400 seen theories that a Manhunter... is still alive and there's 623 00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:12.500 a prevailing theory that the grandson is a manhunter but 624 00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.860 there's a a different way to become a manhunter now 625 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.880 without and now the grandson doesn't know that he's a 626 00:37:19.900 --> 00:37:22.820 manhunter and so there's that theory and so i'm wondering 627 00:37:22.860 --> 00:37:26.030 like because they made a kind of a cautious uh 628 00:37:26.170 --> 00:37:29.269 conscious effort to show that relationship a little bit more 629 00:37:29.289 --> 00:37:31.710 in this episode i know it was very short but 630 00:37:31.750 --> 00:37:34.010 like you know it's just kind of like it was 631 00:37:34.070 --> 00:37:36.000 an I wouldn't say it was an odd spot, but 632 00:37:36.019 --> 00:37:38.280 it was just kind of like, huh. And I understand 633 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:39.360 why people make that theory. 634 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.260 And she, she also says, you know, just remember what 635 00:37:42.300 --> 00:37:44.500 I told you or always remember what I told you. 636 00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.920 I forget how it was worded exactly, but it was, 637 00:37:47.619 --> 00:37:49.739 it felt like there was more to it than simply 638 00:37:49.780 --> 00:37:54.489 like be, you know, be smarter, learn this way or 639 00:37:54.530 --> 00:37:54.849 that way. 640 00:37:54.869 --> 00:37:55.329 You know what I mean? 641 00:37:55.349 --> 00:37:58.070 Like a classic grandma thing to teach a kid or, 642 00:37:58.190 --> 00:38:00.269 or a parent to teach a kid. It felt like 643 00:38:00.289 --> 00:38:04.860 there was more to that statement than simply, um, you know, remember, 644 00:38:05.139 --> 00:38:06.239 remember my teachings. 645 00:38:07.420 --> 00:38:07.679 Yeah. 646 00:38:07.860 --> 00:38:11.699 Yeah. So that, that gives me pause that. So that 647 00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:15.199 gives you pause. And, and so that Manhunter storyline is, 648 00:38:15.929 --> 00:38:18.849 it's potentially not done yet. And I imagine it doesn't get, 649 00:38:19.949 --> 00:38:23.309 if the grandson is a Manhunter, I imagine it's not 650 00:38:23.369 --> 00:38:25.849 going to be resolved in this season. 651 00:38:26.170 --> 00:38:28.909 No, that would be a season two thing. Probably a 652 00:38:28.969 --> 00:38:31.010 tease at the end of the season two to a 653 00:38:31.050 --> 00:38:33.340 season two. If we, if we get that, The other 654 00:38:33.429 --> 00:38:35.809 aspect that we learned about Zoe is that she does 655 00:38:35.889 --> 00:38:42.449 something to make people basically owe her for everything. And 656 00:38:42.489 --> 00:38:44.829 we learned that at the very beginning of the episode 657 00:38:44.869 --> 00:38:47.889 with Carrie. When she shows up from Gotham and is 658 00:38:48.090 --> 00:38:51.510 approached by two of these people that are part of whatever. 659 00:38:51.269 --> 00:38:52.510 Gang or mob or whatever. 660 00:38:52.610 --> 00:38:55.550 And Zoe just wrecks shop on the one guy before 661 00:38:55.590 --> 00:38:58.889 he can even do anything. Gets Carrie to chop off 662 00:38:58.949 --> 00:39:02.019 a pinky. To prove she's dead, but then grows back 663 00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:04.679 her pinky and makes people, like, this is how a 664 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:08.260 Manhunter operates. And she does the same thing with John 665 00:39:08.300 --> 00:39:10.559 later on in the episode, hence why she doesn't, like, 666 00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.500 try and save him out of the car. She lets 667 00:39:13.539 --> 00:39:16.219 him get burned so that she can utilize him and 668 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:17.239 use that over him. 669 00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.090 Yeah, which is diabolical. 670 00:39:20.869 --> 00:39:21.570 Wild. 671 00:39:21.710 --> 00:39:26.579 Yeah, it's the most... manipulative thing that you could ever 672 00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:31.710 do is to somebody uh in both instances and yeah 673 00:39:31.889 --> 00:39:34.429 it's uh she i mean i mean she kind of 674 00:39:34.449 --> 00:39:38.579 had this all laid out it planned out from the 675 00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:42.860 moment that they stepped into into brushville um not not 676 00:39:42.940 --> 00:39:45.039 that i'm saying like she knew exactly what was going 677 00:39:45.059 --> 00:39:51.469 to happen but like she just planted that metaphorical seed, 678 00:39:52.110 --> 00:39:56.130 Jon Stewart's seed, very, very early on, and with the coitus, 679 00:39:56.449 --> 00:39:56.909 got him hooked. 680 00:39:58.449 --> 00:40:00.170 It only takes one time. You're hooked, man. 681 00:40:01.010 --> 00:40:05.579 I mean, they coitus twice. They did. Coitus is a 682 00:40:05.619 --> 00:40:06.639 fun word, I have

to say. 683 00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:10.500 It's a good way to, you know, work around not 684 00:40:10.539 --> 00:40:12.079 having to say they.... 685 00:40:13.550 --> 00:40:13.820 Right. 686 00:40:14.909 --> 00:40:19.969 And then, of course, Anton kills Macon, Will Macon, like, brutally. Like, 687 00:40:20.530 --> 00:40:22.570 just throws a knife in his chest and rips out 688 00:40:22.610 --> 00:40:22.989 his heart. 689 00:40:23.750 --> 00:40:24.750 Oh, man. 690 00:40:25.590 --> 00:40:29.250 Yeah. Just a quick aside. I didn't think Anton was 691 00:40:29.269 --> 00:40:30.170 going to die that soon. 692 00:40:30.550 --> 00:40:32.889 I didn't think so either. I didn't think so at all. 693 00:40:33.510 --> 00:40:39.110 Yeah. So, yeah, that was crazy. And... The one little 694 00:40:39.150 --> 00:40:43.159 thing that all of those questions, the series of questions 695 00:40:43.179 --> 00:40:45.300 that were asked and he passed all of them except 696 00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:48.480 for one little thing and how the Manhunter doesn't care 697 00:40:48.500 --> 00:40:50.719 if it dies or not. And that's the one little 698 00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:54.239 lie that he caught. And yeah, it's just proof. He 699 00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.980 basically took proof that he was human, right? He took 700 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:01.219 his heart out and it didn't crystal over, crystallize over. 701 00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:05.960 So yeah, that was absolutely brutal and a terrible way 702 00:41:05.980 --> 00:41:06.719 to die. Yeah. 703 00:41:07.019 --> 00:41:07.219 Yeah. 704 00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:11.699 And then, of course, like you said, Anton blows himself up, obviously, 705 00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:15.619 once he figures out where Zoe's at. But, you know, 706 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:17.940 Hal sends him up to where he can blow up 707 00:41:17.980 --> 00:41:20.719 in the sky and there's no problem, which is wild 708 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:23.480 to me because, like, I've seen that bit in the 709 00:41:23.500 --> 00:41:25.820 trailer so many times and I'm like, oh, wow, that 710 00:41:25.860 --> 00:41:27.400 was Anton this whole time. 711 00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:31.260 Obviously, I had no idea. But that's an interesting way 712 00:41:31.300 --> 00:41:32.440 for the character to go. 713 00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:34.800 Yeah, but, I mean, I guess, like, if you really 714 00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:39.630 think about it, his... he really served no purpose other 715 00:41:39.650 --> 00:41:43.849 than driving the plot forward. Um, so I'm not, I 716 00:41:43.889 --> 00:41:45.289 don't have a huge problem with it, but it was 717 00:41:45.309 --> 00:41:47.630 just a surprise that he just blew up. 718 00:41:47.909 --> 00:41:48.630 Oh yeah. 719 00:41:48.849 --> 00:41:49.429 Same. 720 00:41:49.449 --> 00:41:50.130 Yeah. 721 00:41:50.550 --> 00:41:52.769 No, it's same. It, it never, it wasn't like a 722 00:41:52.809 --> 00:41:54.900 bad thing. It was just like a, Oh, wow yeah 723 00:41:55.019 -->

00:41:57.800 this is shocking especially like you know we talked about 724 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:02.000 atrocities that ain't atrocities never mind disregard. 725 00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:07.800 That yeah i was like oh his uh the he 726 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:11.690 was important to the series to drive the plot forward 727 00:42:11.969 --> 00:42:15.409 and to have somebody that is basically a countdown right 728 00:42:16.530 --> 00:42:18.949 and he had a total of less than 10 minutes 729 00:42:18.989 --> 00:42:20.750 of screen time throughout the whole series so i'm like 730 00:42:20.829 --> 00:42:24.030 oh Like, that was, it was anticlimactic, but, like, you 731 00:42:24.050 --> 00:42:25.650 think about it, you're like, oh, okay, well, like, he 732 00:42:25.929 --> 00:42:28.369 kind of served his purpose, and he's not, no longer needed. 733 00:42:28.989 --> 00:42:31.300 And, I mean, the biggest thing, too, is he helps 734 00:42:31.340 --> 00:42:36.219 you understand what the Manhunter, why that, the tool of 735 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:40.699 the Manhunter, of Coitus, is the most effective thing, because 736 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:45.030 it sounds like, based off the way Anton reacts and 737 00:42:45.369 --> 00:42:49.070 talks and everything, it sounds like they had a deep 738 00:42:49.110 --> 00:42:53.079 relationship for a long time. you know, and hence why 739 00:42:53.699 --> 00:42:57.019 it hurt him so much and why somebody like him 740 00:42:57.219 --> 00:43:00.280 would be willing to do everything that he was going 741 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:06.349 to do to destroy, in a sense, whoever, just to 742 00:43:06.389 --> 00:43:07.369 get back at the Manhunter. 743 00:43:08.429 --> 00:43:13.030 Yeah, yeah, I mean, it was very personal, as you 744 00:43:13.050 --> 00:43:17.260 can tell, and they did whatever they could to at 745 00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:21.710 least potentially try to kill the Manhunter, and Um, yeah, it, 746 00:43:22.090 --> 00:43:27.840 it blew up in his face. Uh, yeah, it's, it, 747 00:43:27.949 --> 00:43:29.909 it didn't work out for him, but the man hunter, 748 00:43:29.969 --> 00:43:32.050 I guess like if you were to say like if his, 749 00:43:32.710 --> 00:43:35.349 if his, uh, ultimate goal was to make sure the 750 00:43:35.369 --> 00:43:39.920 man hunter died. Yeah. I guess that, uh, mission accomplished. 751 00:43:39.940 --> 00:43:40.519 Kind of. Yeah. 752 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:41.300 Kind of in a way. 753 00:43:41.980 --> 00:43:45.099 Um, but I do like it just kind of, again, 754 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.639 it speaks to the writing and plotting of the show, 755 00:43:48.019 --> 00:43:52.130 how even that villain, uh, Even though he doesn't get 756 00:43:52.170 --> 00:43:54.389 a ton of screen time, it's okay because you still 757 00:43:54.449 --> 00:43:59.690 are able to tie it in with the main villain. Manhunter, 758 00:44:00.090 --> 00:44:06.670 maybe not main villain, main antagonist for the 2016 timeline. 759 00:44:07.110 --> 00:44:08.849 Tie it all back in and make it a more 760 00:44:08.909 --> 00:44:12.690 complex story than simply alien needs to get revenge or 761 00:44:13.090 --> 00:44:15.829 something along those lines. It made the story just hit 762 00:44:16.250 --> 00:44:19.789 that much harder with how things went down. And then 763 00:44:19.829 --> 00:44:23.130 we mentioned it earlier, but of course, you know, we 764 00:44:23.150 --> 00:44:25.349 talked about it at the beginning about John giving up, 765 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.199 not wearing the ring and giving everything back to the Guardian. 766 00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:34.159 And I love the thing that John says to Liana, 767 00:44:34.179 --> 00:44:39.820 the Guardian, about your sin when she asks, what's in 768 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.619 the backpack? He says, your sin and consequences. 769 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:44.599 He's not wrong. 770 00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:46.889 He's not wrong. But of course. 771 00:44:47.750 --> 00:44:51.130 John, as we've established, gives the ring, the lantern, and 772 00:44:51.409 --> 00:44:56.119 Zoe's heart to the Guardian, says, I'm not wearing the ring, leaves. 773 00:44:57.300 --> 00:45:01.940 I can't imagine that Liana, the Guardian, would give the 774 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:04.900 ring back to Hal Jordan after everything they did to 775 00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:09.480 fight that character from having the ring. So we go 776 00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:14.420 back to Hal Jordan dead in 2026, no ring in sight. 777 00:45:15.699 --> 00:45:18.860 I guess this does mean that the ring that Guy 778 00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:21.340 Gardner has is possibly the ring that we're seeing. 779 00:45:22.619 --> 00:45:23.019 Yeah. 780 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:26.460 Yeah. Uh, I mean, I guess he's going to have 781 00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.219 to play it off to where the rings are the 782 00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:32.329 same because, um, it's not, you know, obviously it doesn't 783 00:45:32.369 --> 00:45:37.050 look the same in the movie. Uh, yeah. So yeah, 784 00:45:37.110 --> 00:45:39.849 I mean, I, that's what it points to right now. 785 00:45:40.389 --> 00:45:42.250 It's what it seems like as of now. 786 00:45:42.369 --> 00:45:46.690 So I just find that like, Oh, now it makes sense. 787 00:45:47.460 --> 00:45:51.599 why we could say it's Guy Gardner. But in that case, 788 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.789 did he go through a selection process or did they simply, because, 789 00:45:55.809 --> 00:45:58.369 you know, it doesn't seem like the Green Lantern type, 790 00:45:58.809 --> 00:46:01.610 but is he just more willing to subserve to the 791 00:46:01.650 --> 00:46:04.099 Guardians more than John, more than Hal ever would? 792 00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:09.860 I think so, because of the way that the Justice Society... 793 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:16.150 Is it Justice Society? Is that the one in Superman? 794 00:46:17.789 --> 00:46:19.730 Is it Justice Society or Justice Gang? 795

00:46:20.269 --> 00:46:23.429 Justice Gang. Justice Gang. I'm like, that's not the Justice Society. 796 00:46:23.469 --> 00:46:29.309 That's not the GSA. No, the Justice Gang is pretty... 797 00:46:28.349 --> 00:46:33.570 I would say it's pretty close to a government organization. Mm-hmm. 798 00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:34.179 Mm-hmm. 799 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:41.340 And it screams, I'm an obedient Green Lantern, even though 800 00:46:41.579 --> 00:46:45.780 I mouth off a lot. It's like a toned down 801 00:46:45.820 --> 00:46:48.840 Deadpool government employee kind of thing. 802 00:46:48.969 --> 00:46:49.820 Right, with a bowl cut. 803 00:46:50.670 --> 00:46:54.309 Yeah, with a bowl cut. And so, yeah, it might 804 00:46:54.369 --> 00:47:00.730 seem like he is one to be molded and that 805 00:47:00.869 --> 00:47:05.960 they've chose a non-human to protect earth i guess i 806 00:47:05.980 --> 00:47:06.739 would imagine. 807 00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:11.289 And it maybe it is a an establishing like maybe 808 00:47:11.309 --> 00:47:13.809 in these last three episodes we'll see the establishing of 809 00:47:14.769 --> 00:47:19.210 why earth needs two rings present or because i i 810 00:47:19.250 --> 00:47:22.050 don't remember if guy gardner's in man of tomorrow but 811 00:47:23.010 --> 00:47:26.650 if he is and how we know john is supposed 812 00:47:26.670 --> 00:47:28.289 to be aaron pierre supposed to be in it so 813 00:47:29.190 --> 00:47:31.170 Could there be a possibility where we finally build up 814 00:47:31.230 --> 00:47:34.480 to the Guardians giving two rings, or is there something else? 815 00:47:34.539 --> 00:47:38.480 Does John simply take the ring from Guy? But it 816 00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:43.119 also has to play out over who killed how Jordan. 817 00:47:43.619 --> 00:47:47.280 Was it somebody like a Guy Gardner? Was it somebody else? 818 00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:51.449 Was it a Guardian? And why in Rushville, of all places? 819 00:47:53.090 --> 00:47:58.280 Just a quick Google search. James Gunn did... confirmed that 820 00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.719 Nathan Fillion will be back in Man of Tomorrow. 821 00:48:01.260 --> 00:48:02.079 Interesting, okay. 822 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:05.909 So you'll have two Guardians. Not Guardians, two Lanterns. 823 00:48:06.409 --> 00:48:10.090 So maybe by the end of this season, we'll get 824 00:48:10.289 --> 00:48:13.150 a determination from the Guardians of like, yeah, this sector 825 00:48:13.190 --> 00:48:16.070 needs two rings because y'all are a hot mess or 826 00:48:16.090 --> 00:48:19.969 whatever the case may be. But yeah, I imagine we 827 00:48:20.010 --> 00:48:23.050 get some better understanding of how Guy Gardner comes into 828 00:48:23.090 --> 00:48:25.489 play in this next episode. I think he is in 829 00:48:25.510 --> 00:48:29.610 the preview towards the end of it. And I wonder, too, 830 00:48:30.090 --> 00:48:34.130 if people are thinking John killed Hal. I wonder if 831 00:48:34.230 --> 00:48:37.630 that's played into people's minds since they didn't end on 832 00:48:37.670 --> 00:48:38.190 good terms. 833 00:48:40.090 --> 00:48:42.030 Yeah, I mean, I guess that could be the case. 834 00:48:42.650 --> 00:48:44.530 I guess we'll get a much clearer picture here in 835 00:48:44.550 --> 00:48:50.329 the next episode. But I could see why. But I don't... 836 00:48:50.550 --> 00:48:56.400 I mean, I have zero... inclination that it would john 837 00:48:56.420 --> 00:48:59.000 would ever do that no he's a man of principle 838 00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:02.159 he has a line he has a line that he 839 00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:05.219 won't cross and even if that is if there's a 840 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:08.949 line in front of even if he if he needs 841 00:49:09.030 --> 00:49:12.730 to do something that will compromise him morally but it 842 00:49:12.809 --> 00:49:15.289 will give him his ultimate goal which was the ring 843 00:49:15.369 --> 00:49:21.280 and he just didn't do it. Even at the advice 844 00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:25.380 of his own parents, he didn't do it. Twice. He 845 00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:28.579 had multiple chances to do it, and he never did. 846 00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:32.179 He's a man of principle, and I thoroughly respect that. 847 00:49:32.179 --> 00:49:33.000 100%. 848 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:36.289 That's why he is the right choice to be Green Lantern. 849 00:49:36.369 --> 00:49:40.210 With everything that he does, even saying basically uh once 850 00:49:40.250 --> 00:49:42.349 he tells mom like no i didn't take it what 851 00:49:42.369 --> 00:49:45.150 do you mean you didn't take it no not after 852 00:49:45.210 --> 00:49:47.449 what you said and like how he lays everything out 853 00:49:47.510 --> 00:49:50.570 to her like no this this sucks like this is 854 00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:53.940 not good um uh one other note before we wrap 855 00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:57.320 up i do want to highlight uh john low-key very 856 00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.599 funny uh because he when he comes out of the 857 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:03.889 device that repairs his skin he's like if i come 858 00:50:03.949 --> 00:50:05.369 out white deals off. 859 00:50:07.150 --> 00:50:09.289 So good and then i think she didn't she asked 860 00:50:09.309 --> 00:50:10.610 him if he came out darker. 861 00:50:10.510 --> 00:50:12.409 Yeah she's like what if you came out darker then 862 00:50:12.429 --> 00:50:15.400 it was like b yes and no like because of 863 00:50:15.429 --> 00:50:18.420 the his brothers and everything so and then it leads 864 00:50:18.460 --> 00:50:22.679 to that that bigger conversation but john very funny and 865 00:50:22.699 --> 00:50:24.699 like i mentioned earlier that as you can imagine mama 866 00:50:25.139 --> 00:50:28.380 i am mad as hell i love that line. 867 00:50:28.869 --> 00:50:34.150 Yeah, yeah. I think he's grown on me tremendously over 868 00:50:34.210 --> 00:50:38.130 the last couple of episodes. I really like him. Not 869

00:50:38.170 --> 00:50:41.179 to say I didn't like him in the first three episodes. 870 00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:45.280 I think the ranking for me was always Hal and 871 00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:47.440 then John, and now I think it's pretty even. 872 00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:48.800 I think. Yeah, yeah. 873 00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:54.280 And I think this is solidifying my... Because I think 874 00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:56.780 I mentioned it when we were starting to do these 875 00:50:57.059 --> 00:50:59.940 Lantern Reviews. I grew up on, you know, justice league 876 00:50:59.960 --> 00:51:03.119 unlimited justice league and all that. And so I was 877 00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:06.219 always attached to Jon Stewart. And so to have something 878 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:08.719 like this, where they really put Jon Stewart on a 879 00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:12.400 pedestal has me like, yeah, this is Jon Stewart. This 880 00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.050 is a hundred percent Jon Stewart every, every which way, 881 00:51:15.090 --> 00:51:18.409 because he was so, he was always so even keel 882 00:51:18.849 --> 00:51:21.469 in his portrayal and the cartoons and everything. And he 883 00:51:21.510 --> 00:51:24.730 was always so determined and, you know, just all these 884 00:51:24.750 --> 00:51:28.280 different aspects and it made him a great character. here 885 00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.380 just Aaron Pierre is nailing it throughout and the writing and, 886 00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:34.059 and the way the show has been structured has been 887 00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.519 nailing it so far. So I'm excited to see where 888 00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.690 now we go in 2026, where that story leads us 889 00:51:40.590 --> 00:51:42.769 as Carrie and John, I assume Carrie and John are 890 00:51:42.789 --> 00:51:45.809 going to be investigating who killed how Jordan and why 891 00:51:45.849 --> 00:51:48.769 would they do, you know, whoever do that, especially if 892 00:51:49.550 --> 00:51:52.179 it is just a point blank, like just gun to 893 00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:53.320 the head sort of situation. 894 00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:56.329 Yeah. There's also a... I mean, I don't know if 895 00:51:56.349 --> 00:51:59.570 this would be the direction they would go just because 896 00:52:00.289 --> 00:52:02.949 I don't think a Manhunter would use guns. But you 897 00:52:02.969 --> 00:52:06.869 also have the prevailing theory that the grandson is a Manhunter. Right. 898 00:52:07.210 --> 00:52:10.610 I don't know. Maybe him not knowing that he's a 899 00:52:10.659 --> 00:52:13.429 Manhunter takes a gun to Hal and they have some 900 00:52:13.469 --> 00:52:15.300 kind of fight. He finds out he's a Manhunter and 901 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.880 he just kills John. That's just... I mean, Hal and 902 00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:21.559 maybe that's a thing. I don't know. But I'm just 903 00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:23.820 kind of throwing it out there. I didn't see that anywhere. 904 00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:25.969 I'm just kind of like thinking... On top of my, 905 00:52:26.190 --> 00:52:28.130 you know, just whatever comes on top of my head. 906 00:52:28.429 --> 00:52:29.309 I don't know. 907 00:52:29.570 --> 00:52:31.429 That makes a lot of sense because also, like, if 908 00:52:31.469 --> 00:52:33.340 it's a kid, like, Hal's not going to be, like, 909 00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:36.880 Hal's going to be whatever about it. Or if for 910 00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.760 whatever reason Hal's just miserable and he, like, maybe eggs 911 00:52:40.260 --> 00:52:42.480 the kid on at that point, like, once he realizes 912 00:52:42.539 --> 00:52:45.590 who it is. Because I forget how old the kid 913 00:52:45.710 --> 00:52:50.349 is in 2016. He's probably, like, I don't know, 7, 8? Well, 914 00:52:50.369 --> 00:52:51.559 maybe a little bit older, maybe 10. 915 00:52:51.550 --> 00:52:51.809 Yeah. 916 00:52:51.889 --> 00:52:56.130 Yeah. So I would imagine he's close to being of 917 00:52:56.170 --> 00:52:56.849 that legal age. 918 00:52:57.429 --> 00:53:01.389 So probably around 20, somewhere around there. So if he 919 00:53:01.829 --> 00:53:05.199 shows up, he's the one in Rushville. I mean, that 920 00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:07.460 one makes a lot of sense now that you point 921 00:53:07.500 --> 00:53:07.840 that out. 922 00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:11.480 Yeah. So I'm just kind of spitballing here. 923 00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:12.800 I don't know. 924 00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:16.300 We'll find out very soon as to who got so 925 00:53:16.340 --> 00:53:18.690 close to Hal Jordan himself. But that's going to do 926 00:53:18.710 --> 00:53:21.619 it for issue 666 of Comcast. Thank you all for 927 00:53:21.659 --> 00:53:24.880 listening wherever you are. We greatly appreciate it. As always, 928 00:53:25.059 --> 00:53:27.019 wherever you're listening to this podcast, if you could leave 929 00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:29.199 us a rating or review, that would help us continue 930 00:53:29.219 --> 00:53:31.599 to grow and reach more nerds like you. 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