התמלול המלא של Smallville #3

00:04:25.689 --> 00:04:28.980 about here. as we do here, when we're covering the 76 00:04:29.019 --> 00:04:31.990 Smallville comic books, we're going to talk about each segment 77 00:04:32.509 --> 00:04:35.949 of the comic book. Uh, we have a couple of articles, 78 00:04:35.970 --> 00:04:38.529 a couple of comic book stories. And then of course, 79 00:04:39.370 --> 00:04:42.449 last but not least, the Smallville season one episode guide. 80 00:04:42.470 --> 00:04:45.120 We'll just have a quick mention about that at the end, 81 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:48.379 but issue three starts out with an article titled good 82 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:52.420 to be bad by Mike McCaveney. And it's a pretty, uh, 83 00:04:52.500 --> 00:04:54.620 extensive interview with Michael Rosenbaum, Eddie. 84 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:59.139 It's a long read. Um, I think Michael really gets 85 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:01.980 into some things here, talking about the way he approaches 86 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:05.230 his character and the fact that he doesn't have all 87 00:05:05.259 --> 00:05:08.870 the information, all the pieces, that Alan Miles don't tell 88 00:05:08.910 --> 00:05:12.350 him everything all at once. And he likes that, so 89 00:05:12.370 --> 00:05:15.449 he doesn't try to plan too far in advance, that 90 00:05:15.490 --> 00:05:18.980 he kind of takes it episode by episode. It's a 91 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:19.420 good read. 92 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:24.300 Things that always stick out to me is... I look 93 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.100 at these comic books like they're time capsules. So things 94 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.579 that stick out to me is when they speculate about, hey, 95 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:31.220 what's next? And what about you and this and you 96 00:05:31.259 --> 00:05:34.699 and that? So they ask Michael, another character we're wondering 97 00:05:34.779 --> 00:05:38.189 if you'll interact with more is Pete Ross, Sam Jones III, 98 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.170 whose friendship with Clark became tighter over this past season. 99 00:05:41.509 --> 00:05:44.029 It's obvious there was tension between you two due to 100 00:05:44.050 --> 00:05:47.529 Lionel's involvement with Pete's family. Will that develop further down 101 00:05:47.569 --> 00:05:49.810 the road? And Michael says, I'm sure. I mean, it 102 00:05:49.829 --> 00:05:52.149 has to. They planted the seeds. So it's just a 103 00:05:52.189 --> 00:05:54.220 matter of time when we started to find out what 104 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.379 happened with Pete's family, how my father was evolved, and 105 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:00.870 the reason for the animosity towards the Luthors. We're definitely 106 00:06:00.910 --> 00:06:03.550 going to explore that. Sam's been asking, man, when am 107 00:06:03.569 --> 00:06:05.250 I going to get to have scenes with you guys? 108 00:06:06.050 --> 00:06:07.889 It's great. We all want to work together. It's just 109 00:06:07.930 --> 00:06:10.519 a matter of being

patient. It's been two years, and 110 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.579 we're not even halfway done. Pete and Lex's story is 111 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:16.730 definitely an interesting one to find out. We've hinted at it, 112 00:06:17.180 --> 00:06:20.430 but haven't really talked about what really happened. It'll be interesting. 113 00:06:21.569 --> 00:06:25.189 Wow. Not even halfway done. That just tells you right 114 00:06:25.269 --> 00:06:28.310 there what they thought was going to happen. 115 00:06:28.709 --> 00:06:32.399 It's so interesting because, yes, Pete doesn't like Lex because 116 00:06:32.500 --> 00:06:36.040 Lex's dad screwed over his dad and his uncle. Also, 117 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:38.459 he doesn't like Lex because he moved into town and 118 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:40.959 became Clark's best friend and Pete was Clark's best friend. 119 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:44.879 There was so much untapped potential there. And so Michael's like, well, 120 00:06:44.939 --> 00:06:47.860 obviously we're going to do something with this. No, we aren't. 121 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:49.060 We aren't, unfortunately. 122 00:06:49.540 --> 00:06:53.180 They only cared about the triangle where it involved Lana 123 00:06:53.620 --> 00:06:56.939 and not Pete. I think they kind of had a 124 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.759 great triangle with Pete and Lex and the jealousy of 125 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:03.319 the best friend. I think if I remember, they touched 126 00:07:03.379 --> 00:07:07.220 on it like a couple of sentences in one episode 127 00:07:08.019 --> 00:07:11.560 and it just got glossed over. They really had some 128 00:07:11.610 --> 00:07:12.829 good potential there, but missed it. 129 00:07:13.290 --> 00:07:13.569 Yeah. 130 00:07:13.769 --> 00:07:16.430 And then, you know, they write Pete off the show 131 00:07:17.089 --> 00:07:20.040 at the end of season three. So Pete was more 132 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:20.779 than halfway done. 133 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:24.819 He's the one that knew it was such a nice 134 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:27.860 dynamic and having Pete and Clark talk to each other 135 00:07:27.899 --> 00:07:30.550 about it. And then see you later, Pete. 136 00:07:31.050 --> 00:07:35.529 Yeah, it's, it's rough, man. So, uh, they, they only 137 00:07:35.589 --> 00:07:37.569 hit the only potential thing they hint at is in the, 138 00:07:37.610 --> 00:07:39.189 you know, in the comic books, at least at the time, 139 00:07:39.730 --> 00:07:42.449 like Suther was president and Pete Ross was his vice president. 140 00:07:42.769 --> 00:07:42.970 Right. 141 00:07:43.029 --> 00:07:45.910 So there was, there were going towards that potential feature. 142 00:07:45.930 --> 00:07:49.459 And so in Pete's last episode, when, uh, Lex intervenes 143 00:07:49.740 --> 00:07:51.939 and pulls the FBI guys off of him that are 144 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:55.529 beating him up. It's very interesting because he's like, Clark 145 00:07:55.550 --> 00:07:57.850 was probably right to trust you and not me. And 146 00:07:57.870 --> 00:07:59.930 I'm like, oh, so he knows, he has that insight 147 00:07:59.949 --> 00:08:02.329 that like something's going on here. And then he says, hey, 148 00:08:02.350 --> 00:08:04.329 you know, I helped you. Maybe someday you'll return the favor. 149 00:08:04.870 --> 00:08:08.199 That's interesting dynamics never to be tapped on again. Now 150 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:10.980 in Hero, when he comes back in season seven, there 151 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:12.740 is some Lex and Pete interplay there. He tries to 152 00:08:12.779 --> 00:08:15.720 manipulate his emotions and stuff. So there is that at least, 153 00:08:15.779 --> 00:08:17.879 but like so much was left on the table with 154 00:08:17.899 --> 00:08:18.300 these guys. 155 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:21.819 Yeah, you can't make it all up in one episode 156 00:08:21.939 --> 00:08:25.839 for a returning character like that. They really missed having 157 00:08:25.939 --> 00:08:30.000 Pete interact more with Michael and having their characters just 158 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:34.950 really dissect the relationship between Clark. Because having Pete know 159 00:08:35.309 --> 00:08:38.710 and Lex not, the jealousy just kind of got revved 160 00:08:38.789 --> 00:08:41.190 up to 11. And they never really did it like that. 161 00:08:41.210 --> 00:08:41.279 Yep. 162 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:45.299 But there you go. I mean, these are interesting time capsules. 163 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:46.370 You know, we're not here to, we're not going to 164 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.470 read every last part of every last interview, but certain 165 00:08:48.509 --> 00:08:50.590 things stick out to me. And those are the things that, 166 00:08:50.610 --> 00:08:52.230 you know, I want to talk about on microphone with 167 00:08:52.250 --> 00:08:55.769 you guys. So there is that. Moving on to the 168 00:08:55.929 --> 00:09:04.220 first story. Chimera released July 21st, 2003. Writers Mark Verheiden 169 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:10.120 and Clint Carpenter, pencils Renato Gudez, inks Auclair Albert, colors 170 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:13.580 Guy Major, and lettering comic craft. 171 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:14.960 Well done, Zach. 172 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:19.539 Thank you. So when does Chimera take place? It takes 173 00:09:19.620 --> 00:09:23.409 place pretty immediately after Suspect. So this is kind of 174 00:09:23.970 --> 00:09:26.750 mid season two and it's kind of the aftermath. And 175 00:09:26.769 --> 00:09:29.009 we even get some, you know, black and white flashbacks 176 00:09:29.029 --> 00:09:30.289 to the events of that episode here. 177 00:09:30.830 --> 00:09:34.250 Yeah. So right at the Suspect, it seems to take 178 00:09:34.379 --> 00:09:39.779 off here where they're talking about the accusations on who 179 00:09:39.820 --> 00:09:44.309 potentially killed or tried to kill Lionel, is that correct? 180 00:09:44.629 --> 00:09:45.970 Yeah, Lionel didn't die.

181 00:09:45.990 --> 00:09:47.440 He didn't die. 182 00:09:48.929 --> 00:09:52.240 But Lex is the narrator here. He said, only in 183 00:09:52.299 --> 00:09:54.840 Smallville could you find a young man so generous. And 184 00:09:54.860 --> 00:09:56.970 he's talking about Clark and he says, I'm lucky to 185 00:09:57.070 --> 00:10:00.419 call him a friend because Clark and Lex... are hanging 186 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:02.879 out at the town and getting some coffee from Lana. 187 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:05.279 I gotta tell you, I really like the art here 188 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:09.259 and the way they show the talent. It did make 189 00:10:09.299 --> 00:10:11.710 me feel like I was watching the show as I 190 00:10:11.730 --> 00:10:17.490 was going through panel to panel. It's not too comic book-y. 191 00:10:18.110 --> 00:10:20.450 I would say, or it's not like an anime style. 192 00:10:20.509 --> 00:10:23.330 It's like, they really try to draw what they saw 193 00:10:23.710 --> 00:10:26.309 from the show. And I liked that for me. That 194 00:10:26.330 --> 00:10:26.649 was good. 195 00:10:26.990 --> 00:10:29.009 No, I agree. I think they captured the likenesses really 196 00:10:29.049 --> 00:10:33.110 well for all the characters here and the environments too, 197 00:10:33.169 --> 00:10:36.250 because like the talent, like from the Egyptian columns to 198 00:10:36.289 --> 00:10:39.620 the swinging door behind the counter back there, like these 199 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:41.139 little things and you're so right. Like it, it feels 200 00:10:41.179 --> 00:10:43.820 like you're in that world of the show. 201 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:44.100 Yes. 202 00:10:45.889 --> 00:10:48.460 What they often did on Smallville was Lex's plot would be, oh, 203 00:10:48.500 --> 00:10:51.600 he has his past from Metropolis or an old friend 204 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:54.500 or that sort of thing, and that's what they're tapping 205 00:10:54.539 --> 00:10:58.259 into here. A friend from prep school, Malcolm Barnes. He 206 00:10:58.279 --> 00:10:59.379 was his only friend. 207 00:11:00.070 --> 00:11:02.370 Only friend. First time hearing about him, last time hearing 208 00:11:02.690 --> 00:11:02.980 about him. 209 00:11:03.049 --> 00:11:06.649 He's a Trevor. He's a Trevor. Malcolm was a scholarship 210 00:11:06.690 --> 00:11:10.330 kid and could always be trusted. A scholarship kid, which 211 00:11:10.370 --> 00:11:12.409 means he doesn't have the money that Lex has. That 212 00:11:12.429 --> 00:11:15.470 kind of They're telling you that now. That's helpful information 213 00:11:15.490 --> 00:11:18.889 for later, right? He went a little mad scientist after school, 214 00:11:19.370 --> 00:11:22.080 lost himself in his studies, fell on some hard times. 215 00:11:23.100 --> 00:11:25.240 So he wanted to help his friend out by giving 216 00:11:25.259 --> 00:11:28.100 him a job decrypting the symbols on the cave wall, 217 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:29.980 because we're at the height of

the Kawachi Caves here, Eddie. 218 00:11:30.580 --> 00:11:32.590 Which was a great storyline. Yeah. 219 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:33.870 Are you serious right now? 220 00:11:33.970 --> 00:11:37.129 I'm not being sarcastic. I like the cave storyline. I 221 00:11:37.169 --> 00:11:40.990 like that they made their own mythology, which I liked. 222 00:11:41.210 --> 00:11:43.889 I respect that. I just wish they would have tied 223 00:11:43.909 --> 00:11:45.909 it together somehow at the end because we don't know. 224 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.200 We still don't know. How do they know that stuff? 225 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:53.230 That wasn't their fault. That was Superman Returns being... created 226 00:11:53.309 --> 00:11:55.470 and they were forced the hand was forced. 227 00:11:55.269 --> 00:11:57.710 That's that's true i uh but then when they tried 228 00:11:57.750 --> 00:11:59.789 to tie it together it's like jimmy showing people pictures 229 00:11:59.809 --> 00:12:02.309 like look look davis is sagith i'm like get that 230 00:12:02.389 --> 00:12:04.009 out of here man get that out of here um 231 00:12:04.330 --> 00:12:07.730 you're right though it was it was uniquely small yes. 232 00:12:08.909 --> 00:12:11.700 Now can i ask you did this remind you of 233 00:12:12.129 --> 00:12:15.740 the episode much later on with the green arrow where 234 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:20.899 they do the flashback of oliver and lex and oliver 235 00:12:20.940 --> 00:12:25.210 and his buddies are bullying some kid yeah that then 236 00:12:25.370 --> 00:12:26.990 lex tried to be friends with them i think that 237 00:12:27.049 --> 00:12:29.460 kid was a scholarship kid i feel like they took 238 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:31.940 pieces of this and put it into that episode. 239 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:34.019 Maybe it is interesting because you you look at this 240 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:35.440 you're like oh it reminds me of that well this 241 00:12:35.500 --> 00:12:37.870 predates that so maybe this informs that you. 242 00:12:37.750 --> 00:12:39.789 Know exactly like oh yeah we did we wrote a 243 00:12:39.830 --> 00:12:42.289 story about a comic book let's let's you know we'll 244 00:12:42.330 --> 00:12:43.409 take pieces of that and put. 245 00:12:43.309 --> 00:12:46.129 It in there yeah I think so. Whenever they deal 246 00:12:46.149 --> 00:12:47.970 with Lex's past, you know, what was so interesting about 247 00:12:47.990 --> 00:12:51.220 that one was, like, Lex legit, I mean, he didn't 248 00:12:51.740 --> 00:12:53.379 murder that kid because he did survive, but he was 249 00:12:53.419 --> 00:12:56.200 responsible for him pushing him into traffic and he got 250 00:12:56.220 --> 00:12:56.879 hit by a car. 251 00:12:57.299 --> 00:12:57.720 Yeah. 252 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.259 After him beating the hell out of him because, like, 253 00:13:00.299 --> 00:13:02.519 we could have been popular! You know, I mean, that was... 254 00:13:03.500 --> 00:13:05.830 But that's what, I mean,

kids, man, like, unhinge Lex 255 00:13:05.870 --> 00:13:08.309 as a kid, like... He got that in a rage, 256 00:13:08.330 --> 00:13:10.100 you know, and he would come out sometimes. It was 257 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:13.580 interesting to see that. But yeah, Lex, he goes to 258 00:13:13.620 --> 00:13:15.980 see his buddy and opens the door and he sees 259 00:13:16.059 --> 00:13:19.679 Malcolm is dead. He legit has a sword in his chest, Eddie. 260 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:24.309 Yeah, a sword that looks very familiar to Lex that 261 00:13:24.330 --> 00:13:26.210 he's very worried about. Yeah, yes. 262 00:13:26.950 --> 00:13:32.370 He calls 911. My friend, he's been, what the? I 263 00:13:32.409 --> 00:13:35.360 didn't write this, you know? I hadn't written any of them. 264 00:13:35.860 --> 00:13:40.720 He's finding all these emails and this paper trail that 265 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:44.879 shows that Lex is involved with this somehow. He checks 266 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:45.399 his pulse. 267 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:49.490 Checks his pulse. Checks his pulse. No pulse. That'll come 268 00:13:49.509 --> 00:13:52.210 around in part two when they resolve all this. But 269 00:13:53.230 --> 00:13:59.169 looking at the timestamp on the email, Thursday, May 22nd, 2003. 270 00:13:59.169 --> 00:14:01.940 I feel like, you know, one day I talk about 271 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:03.480 it sometimes on this podcast. I'm going to do some 272 00:14:03.539 --> 00:14:05.850 unified smell of a timeline. I feel like that's going 273 00:14:05.870 --> 00:14:08.970 to be a violation of the small hill timeline. Suspect 274 00:14:08.990 --> 00:14:10.870 legit came out in like January. 275 00:14:11.610 --> 00:14:15.700 This would have been like season finale time. Yeah. 276 00:14:15.779 --> 00:14:17.440 Like, like he's getting married tomorrow. 277 00:14:17.580 --> 00:14:18.960 You know, season three. 278 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:23.299 Um, because season, season two, because. 279 00:14:22.860 --> 00:14:24.220 Season two, season two. 280 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:27.409 Yes. But even so that's like six months after suspect. 281 00:14:27.710 --> 00:14:28.029 Yeah. 282 00:14:28.629 --> 00:14:32.330 So that really throws things off. But, you know, that's 283 00:14:32.370 --> 00:14:33.669 why one day it's going to be fun. And I 284 00:14:33.710 --> 00:14:35.220 do that. I'm not sure what format is going to take. 285 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:37.259 Is that fun to listen to an audio? Me just 286 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:40.139 being like, so now on May 2nd, 2003, I don't, 287 00:14:40.179 --> 00:14:42.240 I'm going to figure something out, but it'll be fun. 288 00:14:42.259 --> 00:14:46.940 I think. And the article, the interview also was post 289 00:14:47.580 --> 00:14:49.570 season two. Yes. 290 00:14:49.620 --> 00:14:51.029 Because, because these are coming out. 291 00:14:51.129 --> 00:14:51.370 Yeah. 292 00:14:51.789 --> 00:14:53.590 The, the summer in between season two. 293 00:14:53.629

--> 00:14:55.330 Yeah. It was came out. 294 00:14:56.370 --> 00:14:58.309 So they probably wrote this story on May 22nd. They 295 00:14:58.330 --> 00:15:02.539 didn't think about the ramifications. But Lex realizes that he's 296 00:15:02.580 --> 00:15:07.389 being set up, right? And he takes all these emails, 297 00:15:07.529 --> 00:15:11.210 you know, stealing evidence from a crime scene. Then he 298 00:15:11.250 --> 00:15:13.409 gets out of there. He gets back to Luther Mansion. 299 00:15:14.350 --> 00:15:16.970 The justice system is easily manipulated, he tells Clark, which 300 00:15:17.009 --> 00:15:17.409 is interesting. 301 00:15:17.490 --> 00:15:19.250 I love that he goes right to Clark with it, though. 302 00:15:19.529 --> 00:15:21.149 Yeah, because he can trust Clark, right? 303 00:15:21.250 --> 00:15:21.509 Yeah. 304 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.899 The audacity to steal the murder weapon from my own office, 305 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:26.200 because that was very, I mean, you could tell that 306 00:15:26.220 --> 00:15:28.019 was like, oh, this is a Luther artifact of some 307 00:15:28.059 --> 00:15:28.940 kind in this guy's chest. 308 00:15:29.649 --> 00:15:31.789 No history on the artifact, though. I would have loved 309 00:15:31.830 --> 00:15:32.690 to hear where it was from. 310 00:15:34.309 --> 00:15:39.070 You see Clark in the third century. He tells Clark, 311 00:15:39.389 --> 00:15:41.110 I don't have many friends, Clark. Malcolm was one of 312 00:15:41.129 --> 00:15:44.220 the very few people I could trust, absolutely. That's why 313 00:15:44.389 --> 00:15:47.879 I have to find his killer. And on cue, the 314 00:15:48.179 --> 00:15:53.440 SWAT team just crashes through the window, the not Veritas window. 315 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:58.080 They crash through. Hands in the air now! And they 316 00:15:58.100 --> 00:15:58.500 arrest Lex. 317 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:02.340 What do you think of Clark's outfit here? It's a 318 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:05.059 plaid blue with a red undershirt. 319 00:16:06.019 --> 00:16:08.360 But it's normal clothes. It's normal clothes, though. I like that. 320 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:10.779 I like that because they're basing this off. 321 00:16:10.700 --> 00:16:13.110 Of season one and season two. Where he wore different 322 00:16:13.149 --> 00:16:15.230 colors and different plaids. 323 00:16:15.269 --> 00:16:18.470 He started wearing... Obviously, we have that tally board where 324 00:16:18.490 --> 00:16:22.429 I had the blue shirt, red jacket. 95% of that 325 00:16:22.690 --> 00:16:26.639 is the same blue shirt, red jacket. In season one, he... 326 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:28.700 like had a couple like, Oh, well that is a 327 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:30.779 blue jacket and a blue shirt or whatever. 328 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:30.940 Right. 329 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:34.570 But he would wear normal clothes up until I think 330 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.190 season three is where it really started. And then season

331 00:16:37.230 --> 00:16:39.149 four is where it just completely took over. He didn't, 332 00:16:39.389 --> 00:16:41.590 he didn't wear that. The, the, when you think of 333 00:16:41.669 --> 00:16:44.029 Smallville blue shirt, red jacket that showed up for the 334 00:16:44.070 --> 00:16:46.139 first time, I think in visage, it was like mid 335 00:16:46.179 --> 00:16:46.740 season two. 336 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:50.100 And then like once or twice. It was like, Oh, cool. Yeah. Right. 337 00:16:50.139 --> 00:16:53.610 Like, He's doing important Superman things. He's meeting Christopher Reeve. 338 00:16:53.649 --> 00:16:54.169 Have him in that. 339 00:16:54.350 --> 00:16:54.929 Great. Sure. 340 00:16:55.049 --> 00:16:57.710 Perfect. Right. But by the time we get to season four, man, 341 00:16:57.950 --> 00:17:00.470 it's either the red shirt and the blue jacket, or 342 00:17:00.490 --> 00:17:03.629 the blue shirt and the red jacket. And it's refreshing 343 00:17:03.649 --> 00:17:06.730 to see him wear normal clothes. I think what kind 344 00:17:07.150 --> 00:17:08.730 of annoys us both, that's why we're talking about it, 345 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:11.259 for like two years, he did have normal clothes. 346 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:11.859 Exactly. 347 00:17:11.940 --> 00:17:13.980 It's not like they did it from the jump. I'm like, ah, well, 348 00:17:14.019 --> 00:17:16.240 that's the show. No, guys, you specifically went out of 349 00:17:16.259 --> 00:17:19.220 your way to have him no variety in his wardrobe. 350 00:17:19.970 --> 00:17:22.529 But yes, he's wearing a blue flannel over a red shirt. 351 00:17:23.750 --> 00:17:25.750 Clark asks, where are you taking him? The SWAT team says, 352 00:17:25.769 --> 00:17:28.539 that's not your problem. Where my friends are involved, I 353 00:17:28.630 --> 00:17:31.660 make it my problem. He just like super strength pushes 354 00:17:31.700 --> 00:17:33.500 his way out of these guys. Kind of reckless. 355 00:17:34.019 --> 00:17:37.819 I mean, he really just lets him have it. 356 00:17:38.140 --> 00:17:39.019 Yeah. 357 00:17:39.140 --> 00:17:40.880 I feel like it's sort of right in front of 358 00:17:40.940 --> 00:17:41.960 Lex maybe. 359 00:17:42.019 --> 00:17:44.119 Well, Lex is already outside. But these guys, I mean, 360 00:17:44.569 --> 00:17:46.329 he throws like three people off of him. And then 361 00:17:46.349 --> 00:17:48.170 he goes outside and he sees Lex being taken away. 362 00:17:48.730 --> 00:17:52.109 By a truck that says FBI. And there's helicopters and 363 00:17:52.130 --> 00:17:55.210 all this stuff. And, like, it says, Clark, go home, 364 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:57.220 I'll be. And then the guy, one of the SWAT 365 00:17:57.240 --> 00:17:59.319 team guys, like, pistol whips him on the back of 366 00:17:59.339 --> 00:17:59.619 the head. 367 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:02.660 Oh, yeah. Ouch. Really cracks him one. 368 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:06.539 I'm kind of shocked he didn't get passed out. Because 369 00:18:06.579 --> 00:18:08.660 that's usually what happens. It would have helped a lot, 370 00:18:08.789 --> 00:18:11.710 had he. Because the FBI shoots Clark here. 371 00:18:12.349 --> 00:18:13.250 Unloads him to him. 372 00:18:13.430 --> 00:18:14.349 Right in front of Lexus. 373 00:18:15.109 --> 00:18:18.430 You know why? Because you needed Lex to think Clark 374 00:18:18.450 --> 00:18:18.670 was dead. 375 00:18:18.690 --> 00:18:19.329 Think Clark is dead. 376 00:18:19.690 --> 00:18:19.990 Yeah. 377 00:18:20.569 --> 00:18:23.329 But he wakes up in some... Well, in this van. 378 00:18:23.109 --> 00:18:26.450 Here, right? Well, I thought it was Clark's excuse, not 379 00:18:27.049 --> 00:18:29.009 what actually happened later on. Right. 380 00:18:29.049 --> 00:18:31.579 He's all rubber bullets. Who would have thought? 381 00:18:31.630 --> 00:18:33.670 Sure. I thought that was his excuse. 382 00:18:34.150 --> 00:18:38.059 Yeah. No, no, it is. Lex starts getting interviewed by 383 00:18:38.099 --> 00:18:41.200 these government agents, and they call him Alexander Luther. He says, 384 00:18:41.259 --> 00:18:41.740 it's Lex. 385 00:18:42.819 --> 00:18:42.940 And. 386 00:18:43.819 --> 00:18:46.279 Your man shot my friend, Gibson, he tells him. And 387 00:18:46.299 --> 00:18:49.289 you got bigger problems. Lex tells him, I know my rights. 388 00:18:50.009 --> 00:18:51.970 I don't say a word until you give me my attorney. 389 00:18:51.990 --> 00:18:53.150 And then they slap him in the face. 390 00:18:53.750 --> 00:18:56.829 And really good. I mean, he's bloody. 391 00:18:57.309 --> 00:19:00.410 Yeah, they have blood splatter from his mouth. And what 392 00:19:00.430 --> 00:19:02.450 happened to the good cop, bad cop? Has the FBI 393 00:19:02.470 --> 00:19:05.640 gotten lazy? I can hear Rosenbaum say this. They've really 394 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:07.839 captured the essence of him here, I think, right? 395 00:19:08.279 --> 00:19:10.680 And that's why it's good that they have him look. 396 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:15.180 like Rosenwald, because I could hear him say it as 397 00:19:15.220 --> 00:19:17.299 he's doing it. And now this guy's choking him, which is. 398 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:18.140 Yeah. 399 00:19:19.509 --> 00:19:22.130 Because according to them, Malcolm was one of their agents 400 00:19:22.390 --> 00:19:25.410 and that's why they're really going hardcore. Um, Lex, it's like, 401 00:19:25.430 --> 00:19:28.650 I don't know what you're talking about. They tell Lex, 402 00:19:28.670 --> 00:19:30.549 your Swiss bank account was empty today and all that 403 00:19:30.569 --> 00:19:33.549 sort of stuff. So all the evidence is piling up 404 00:19:33.589 --> 00:19:36.259 against Lex and, and knowing that his bank account has 405 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:37.779 been empty, he's a red flag that Lex is going 406 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:39.890 to have to deal with. We'll get there shortly. But 407 00:19:39.930 --> 00:19:42.400 then Lex starts

fighting back. He's like, that's for Clark. 408 00:19:42.420 --> 00:19:45.440 He headbutts this guy in the nose. This is so bloody. 409 00:19:46.180 --> 00:19:48.190 But then they keep just beating the hell out of him, man. 410 00:19:48.329 --> 00:19:50.319 This is bloody. This is a lot more intense. than 411 00:19:50.339 --> 00:19:52.380 the stuff that I think. It's interesting reading these comics. 412 00:19:52.410 --> 00:19:54.440 Maybe it's funny. It's a comic book. It's not a 413 00:19:54.460 --> 00:19:57.839 primetime TV show. So you think the comic book would 414 00:19:57.859 --> 00:20:00.539 be less violent than the TV show? Absolutely not. They're 415 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:01.880 getting away with a lot of stuff here they could 416 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:02.900 not get away with in live action. 417 00:20:03.059 --> 00:20:09.329 Absolutely. The blood usage and the real good beating They 418 00:20:09.349 --> 00:20:11.630 didn't have that on Smallville, on the WB. 419 00:20:12.230 --> 00:20:14.099 No, not at 7 o'clock Central, I'll tell you that. 420 00:20:14.730 --> 00:20:19.299 But Lex says, it's after midnight. Today's my birthday. So 421 00:20:20.180 --> 00:20:22.579 then they throw him in, like, you know, solitary confinement. 422 00:20:22.619 --> 00:20:25.880 He says, what, no phone call? Happy birthday to me. Again, like, 423 00:20:25.900 --> 00:20:28.920 this is, they've totally captured. And Mark Verheiden, one of 424 00:20:28.940 --> 00:20:30.559 the writers of the show in the early years, like, 425 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:33.920 he understands the language and the tone of the show 426 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:34.759 and the characters, right? 427 00:20:34.940 --> 00:20:35.119 Yeah. 428 00:20:36.859 --> 00:20:39.890 Lex is there thinking to himself about... I've lost the 429 00:20:39.950 --> 00:20:41.910 two best friends I ever had, which, to your point, 430 00:20:41.930 --> 00:20:45.349 that's why they wanted Lex to see Clark get quote-unquote shot. 431 00:20:46.029 --> 00:20:48.869 And then he hears someone at the door, so he 432 00:20:49.230 --> 00:20:50.710 gets ready to strangle him, Eddie. 433 00:20:51.309 --> 00:20:51.809 Oh, no. 434 00:20:52.230 --> 00:20:54.349 With his handcuffs. With his handcuffs. 435 00:20:54.769 --> 00:20:55.089 Yes. 436 00:20:55.490 --> 00:20:56.569 And who busts in the door, Eddie? 437 00:20:57.089 --> 00:21:00.759 It is Clark Kent himself. Clark. 438 00:21:03.059 --> 00:21:07.730 But how? The guys who grabbed you were firing blanks. 439 00:21:07.829 --> 00:21:10.130 So were they really firing blanks? 440 00:21:10.789 --> 00:21:14.890 So reading him, when I read him say that, I'm like, okay, 441 00:21:14.990 --> 00:21:15.849 Clark is full of it. 442 00:21:16.150 --> 00:21:16.410 Right. 443 00:21:16.730 --> 00:21:21.160 But then he makes the joke about the flannel being bulletproof. 444 00:21:21.900 --> 00:21:23.779 So I'm like, oh, then they're really blanks. 445 00:21:24.420 --> 00:21:26.140 Because

he would have bullet holes all over his shirt. 446 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:26.539 You're right. 447 00:21:26.579 --> 00:21:30.089 Yeah. Okay. He wouldn't make the joke and kind of 448 00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:32.750 point it out that nothing happened to him. 449 00:21:33.109 --> 00:21:33.390 Right. 450 00:21:33.529 --> 00:21:34.950 That they weren't actually blanks. 451 00:21:35.130 --> 00:21:36.690 Because he was wearing the same clothes because he followed 452 00:21:36.710 --> 00:21:39.349 straight from where he was. Okay. Because then Lexi even asked, 453 00:21:39.390 --> 00:21:41.789 why would military commandos use blanks? So as we find out, 454 00:21:41.829 --> 00:21:44.109 you know, in the resolution of the story, it all tracks. 455 00:21:44.569 --> 00:21:44.829 Yes. 456 00:21:45.009 --> 00:21:46.029 It all tracks, right? 457 00:21:46.569 --> 00:21:49.910 But they were not planning on this kid to get 458 00:21:49.970 --> 00:21:53.640 up from a bunch of, you know, bruises from blanks 459 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:55.269 and follow the FBI. 460 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:57.319 And super speed after the truck, yeah. 461 00:21:57.339 --> 00:21:59.980 Super speed after the truck and find where they're holding 462 00:22:00.019 --> 00:22:01.559 him and then break him out. 463 00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:04.950 Also, it doesn't mean you talk about reminding you of 464 00:22:04.970 --> 00:22:06.990 a season six reunion. This reminds me of a season 465 00:22:07.009 --> 00:22:10.450 nine roulette where Oliver gets captured and there's like, and 466 00:22:10.470 --> 00:22:13.089 then the whole bank account thing, because you know, when 467 00:22:13.250 --> 00:22:14.930 Clark busts them out of this room, it's like they're 468 00:22:14.950 --> 00:22:17.589 in a giant movie set of some kind, the warehouse district. 469 00:22:18.250 --> 00:22:21.259 And Lexus, the FBI, the commandos, it was all fake. 470 00:22:21.910 --> 00:22:26.220 So he decides, Oh, I better call my bank. My bank. 471 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:28.420 They told me my bank account was empty. 472 00:22:29.220 --> 00:22:31.920 And, uh, he calls, he gives his account number. He 473 00:22:31.940 --> 00:22:36.049 gets his password. Chimera, which I guess that's why they 474 00:22:36.089 --> 00:22:39.910 titled it Chimera. It's a stretch. It's a stretch. I 475 00:22:39.930 --> 00:22:42.039 don't know what you call this. I respect the one 476 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:43.799 word episode title thing. They're not doing it with all 477 00:22:43.819 --> 00:22:46.180 the comic books. And I get it because there's only 478 00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:47.720 so many words in the English language. 479 00:22:48.180 --> 00:22:49.359 Are they not all one word? 480 00:22:49.660 --> 00:22:52.099 No, some of them are like, usually the backup stories 481 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:54.720 are multiple words. Now this one is not. This one 482 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:57.390 is one word too, so I respect that. But a 483 00:22:57.420 --> 00:23:00.630 lot of the backup stories have been just multiple words. 484 00:23:01.779 --> 00:23:05.559 But he calls this Swiss banker, so he thinks. And then, 485 00:23:06.299 --> 00:23:10.559 one moment, your account balance is zero. So, oh, well, 486 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:13.740 they were right. I guess they wiped me out, right? 487 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:17.099 So they wander out of this warehouse onto the street. 488 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:17.839 And. 489 00:23:19.349 --> 00:23:20.910 Lex tells Clark, you've done enough. 490 00:23:21.029 --> 00:23:21.470 Go home. 491 00:23:22.789 --> 00:23:27.230 This is a family matter. And he busts in to 492 00:23:27.309 --> 00:23:32.000 Lionel's bedroom. And Lionel, who is blind at this time, says, oh, 493 00:23:32.339 --> 00:23:35.829 who's there, Lex? Like, did you think I wouldn't know 494 00:23:35.849 --> 00:23:38.329 it was you, Dad? Click. 495 00:23:39.089 --> 00:23:41.369 I'm not sure if you caught it that part of 496 00:23:41.410 --> 00:23:44.150 the reason, the puzzle piece that he goes to his 497 00:23:44.190 --> 00:23:47.710 father is that that warehouse, like that movie set, is 498 00:23:48.029 --> 00:23:49.329 a Luthor Corp facility. 499 00:23:49.670 --> 00:23:50.769 Yes, yes. 500 00:23:51.670 --> 00:23:53.579 So that helps him put it together. Well, it's got 501 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:54.180 to be my dad. 502 00:23:55.019 --> 00:23:57.240 And it's a pretty good likeness of John Glover here. 503 00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:01.619 This is in that nebulous time when everybody thinks he's blind. 504 00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:04.160 Is he still blind? Who knows? I think that the 505 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:07.539 headcanon that some of the fans have come up with 506 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:10.660 over the years is him getting shot in Suspect kind 507 00:24:10.700 --> 00:24:13.170 of jostled his sight back. I know that's ridiculous, but 508 00:24:13.230 --> 00:24:16.710 these are movie TV rules, right? It's the same logic of, oh, 509 00:24:16.730 --> 00:24:18.369 you get hit on the head once, you have amnesia. 510 00:24:18.529 --> 00:24:21.329 You get hit on the head twice, your memories come back, right? 511 00:24:21.730 --> 00:24:22.490 That's how it works. 512 00:24:22.910 --> 00:24:25.160 That's how it works, right? And so... We find out 513 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:28.109 in Prodigal, which is the 15th episode, I think, that 514 00:24:28.150 --> 00:24:31.329 he can see. Suspect is 12. We don't see him 515 00:24:31.369 --> 00:24:34.490 for a couple episodes. It kind of tracks that whatever 516 00:24:34.569 --> 00:24:39.339 recovery he had from this would have had his eyes restored. 517 00:24:39.390 --> 00:24:41.839 So anyway, I'm glad they keep it vague. I am 518 00:24:41.859 --> 00:24:44.859 glad they keep it vague on Smallville, but there you 519 00:24:44.900 --> 00:24:47.819 have it. But to be continued, Eddie. They're leaving us 520 00:24:47.859 --> 00:24:48.299 like that. 521 00:24:48.700 -->

00:24:52.720 With a gun pointed at his father. Yeah. 522 00:24:52.740 --> 00:24:53.019 Click. 523 00:24:53.059 --> 00:24:56.720 Click. He's ready to shoot. Yeah. And they leave us 524 00:24:56.759 --> 00:24:59.940 on a cliffhanger. I got very upset when I saw 525 00:24:59.960 --> 00:25:00.599 To Be Continued. 526 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:06.980 Yeah. Well, and I've said this, I probably said this 527 00:25:07.019 --> 00:25:08.539 on a podcast. I know I've thought it over the years, 528 00:25:08.579 --> 00:25:12.359 like Suspects, since we're talking about Suspects, immediately following that episode. 529 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:15.539 That's an episode that would have been well served as 530 00:25:15.579 --> 00:25:19.589 a two-parter. you know, because there's so much going on. No, they, 531 00:25:19.609 --> 00:25:22.049 you know, unless it was like a premiere or finale 532 00:25:22.369 --> 00:25:23.980 or not even that, but even like the end of 533 00:25:24.009 --> 00:25:25.269 the season or the beginning of the season, they would 534 00:25:25.289 --> 00:25:27.670 do some two partners there or mid season finale. 535 00:25:27.710 --> 00:25:27.869 Right. 536 00:25:27.890 --> 00:25:30.710 But like, imagine like, cause you had like three and 537 00:25:30.730 --> 00:25:33.470 then four suspects for who shot Lionel. But in a 538 00:25:33.490 --> 00:25:35.230 part one is Clark. I think I know who killed 539 00:25:35.250 --> 00:25:35.809 Lionel Luther. 540 00:25:35.829 --> 00:25:35.930 Right. 541 00:25:35.970 --> 00:25:38.269 And that's to be continued. And then who he thinks 542 00:25:38.329 --> 00:25:39.750 is wrong for the next one. And they got to 543 00:25:39.769 --> 00:25:41.190 go through that. Like, I think they really could have 544 00:25:41.210 --> 00:25:42.089 expanded that story. 545 00:25:42.309 --> 00:25:46.480 Cause they did arcs, you know, they had, full season arcs, 546 00:25:46.700 --> 00:25:50.089 some were just from like the beginning to mid and 547 00:25:50.130 --> 00:25:53.029 then mid to the end and then one that was overarching. 548 00:25:53.490 --> 00:25:57.630 But if they would have done sort of three or 549 00:25:57.750 --> 00:26:02.269 four episode arcs that were just continuations directly, you know, 550 00:26:02.430 --> 00:26:06.730 dealing with, like you said, suspect having maybe one episode 551 00:26:06.769 --> 00:26:11.950 dedicated to each suspect who it could be. They didn't 552 00:26:11.970 --> 00:26:16.160 do that though. It was very 22 episodes long. Boom, boom, boom. 553 00:26:16.500 --> 00:26:19.720 We were lucky when we got a two-parter like Justice 554 00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:22.380 or your favorite finale, you know. 555 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:28.220 Things like that. Well, this proves what you can do 556 00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:33.200 in tie-in material. Tie-in material is you got to walk 557 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:34.910 a fine line because you want to capture the essence 558 00:26:34.930 --> 00:26:36.869 of the show and you want to feel like you're 559 00:26:36.890 --> 00:26:39.970 watching an episode, but then you also have the opportunity 560 00:26:39.990 --> 00:26:42.470 to expand the world. Tell stories you can't tell in 561 00:26:42.490 --> 00:26:45.220 an episode. right or take us places we can't see 562 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:47.140 because we don't have the budget right so something like 563 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:48.400 this is great could. 564 00:26:48.299 --> 00:26:51.299 You imagine if in that episode later on what was 565 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:53.420 it reunion i believe it was if they would have 566 00:26:53.509 --> 00:26:59.849 referenced this character oh yeah like they would have just 567 00:27:00.490 --> 00:27:03.210 one of the one of the students was this this 568 00:27:03.269 --> 00:27:08.099 guy what was his name uh malcolm malcolm like they 569 00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:11.410 could have done stuff like on a smaller scale, closer 570 00:27:11.470 --> 00:27:13.410 to the comics. And it just would have been like 571 00:27:13.430 --> 00:27:15.829 an extra for the people that read the comic. 572 00:27:16.630 --> 00:27:19.930 Well, they... Other than the Chloe Chronicles and Vengeance Chronicles 573 00:27:20.019 --> 00:27:20.730 tie in a little bit. 574 00:27:20.740 --> 00:27:21.460 Vengeance Chronicles. 575 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:24.640 But they tie in the opposite. Like, it goes one way. 576 00:27:24.660 --> 00:27:25.279 Mm-hmm. 577 00:27:25.700 --> 00:27:28.500 I don't think it ever goes the other way. No, actually, no. 578 00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:30.559 There's one thing that does tie in a little bit. 579 00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:31.680 It is the. 580 00:27:33.140 --> 00:27:35.609 He's one of the scientists in Season 6 who are 581 00:27:35.700 --> 00:27:39.079 creating the clone army for Lex. That guy... was in 582 00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:40.299 the Chloe Chronicles. 583 00:27:40.500 --> 00:27:41.039 He was. 584 00:27:41.299 --> 00:27:43.059 Yeah, so that's a little bit what you're talking about. 585 00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:47.349 But other than that, everything is one way. Angel of Vengeance, 586 00:27:47.470 --> 00:27:50.309 Molly from Delete, everything going on that you see in 587 00:27:50.329 --> 00:27:54.160 these other things, they don't bring someone in from this 588 00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:56.079 time material and and i think you're right like why 589 00:27:56.140 --> 00:27:58.240 not that would have been so cool and then maybe 590 00:27:58.349 --> 00:28:00.710 they would have driven people to go out and find 591 00:28:00.730 --> 00:28:04.069 the comic for more information check out smallville the comic 592 00:28:04.089 --> 00:28:05.569 book right at the end of the when you're when 593 00:28:05.589 --> 00:28:08.410 you're hawking your cds at the end of this episode 594 00:28:08.630 --> 00:28:10.869 why don't you sell like because look i look for 595 00:28:10.890 --> 00:28:14.000 because you know i love putting in advertisements and

promos 596 00:28:14.019 --> 00:28:15.819 in these podcasts like i look i'm like was there 597 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.240 any commercial at any time for a small book comic 598 00:28:18.259 --> 00:28:20.440 book and there never was not such a wasted opportunity 599 00:28:20.500 --> 00:28:23.730 but uh But no, that's an exciting way to end it, right? 600 00:28:23.809 --> 00:28:26.829 Lionel held a gunpoint about Lex. Now, obviously, we know 601 00:28:26.849 --> 00:28:28.569 he's not going to kill Lionel because this takes place 602 00:28:28.829 --> 00:28:31.230 before anything else that happens in season two or three, but. 603 00:28:31.470 --> 00:28:33.789 And they're only halfway through the show. 604 00:28:33.809 --> 00:28:38.059 We're only halfway there. But it feels like something would 605 00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:40.700 happen on the show. In fact, this has happened on 606 00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:45.779 the show. That's the relationship these guys have. So anyway, 607 00:28:46.180 --> 00:28:47.359 that is quite a cliffhanger. 608 00:28:50.230 --> 00:28:53.289 On the WB's New Tuesday and Big Sunday at its 609 00:28:53.369 --> 00:28:57.390 easy view time. In a town filled with secrets, the 610 00:28:57.410 --> 00:29:00.289 truth remains a mystery. Maybe there's more to Clark Kent 611 00:29:00.309 --> 00:29:01.099 than meets the eye. 612 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:04.799 There's nothing more to me than what you see. 613 00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:06.019 Smallville. 614 00:29:12.420 --> 00:29:15.559 So what are you, man or Superman? I don't know 615 00:29:15.579 --> 00:29:15.859 what I am. 616 00:29:16.259 --> 00:29:18.720 Somewhere between the boy he once was. 617 00:29:19.900 --> 00:29:21.559 I've tried my whole life just to blend in. 618 00:29:21.740 --> 00:29:23.400 To try and be more normal than anyone else. 619 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:25.720 And the man he is destined to become. 620 00:29:25.740 --> 00:29:28.970 A strange visitor from another planet who protects the weak. 621 00:29:29.069 --> 00:29:31.170 Are the stories of Smallville. 622 00:29:32.049 --> 00:29:33.369 I don't know where that shit brought me from. 623 00:29:33.430 --> 00:29:33.990 Clark, you don't get it. 624 00:29:33.990 --> 00:29:36.069 I don't care if you're from the moon. 625 00:29:36.250 --> 00:29:38.470 I always knew you were keeping secrets from me, Clark. 626 00:29:38.930 --> 00:29:42.579 Anybody else? hiding the truth only keeps people apart you 627 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:44.660 don't know the whole story then tell me. 628 00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:50.059 It's a little strange to be walking around and every. 629 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.099 Shred of evidence says i should be dead maybe fate 630 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:54.200 has something else in mind for you you. 631 00:29:54.099 --> 00:29:56.799 Can't save everybody no matter who you are I just 632 00:29:56.819 --> 00:29:57.400 want the truth. 633 00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:59.299 The truth is, I'm just a guy who tried to 634 00:29:59.339 --> 00:30:00.000 do the right thing. 635 00:30:03.339 --> 00:30:06.180 Trust me, Clark. Our friendship is going to be the 636 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:06.829 stuff of legend. 637 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:08.849 Smallville. 638 00:30:14.670 --> 00:30:18.809 And that takes us to the next segment, Whodunit, a 639 00:30:18.849 --> 00:30:22.670 special excerpt from the Warner Aspect original Smallville novel by 640 00:30:22.750 --> 00:30:23.609 Dean Wesley Smith. 641 00:30:24.380 --> 00:30:25.940 So this is from the novel. 642 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:28.759 This is straight up a passage from the novel. 643 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:30.119 Have you done the novels yet? 644 00:30:30.420 --> 00:30:33.079 We have not done the novels yet, Eddie. We will 645 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:34.099 be covering the novels. 646 00:30:34.220 --> 00:30:35.079 Is it in the queue? 647 00:30:35.539 --> 00:30:37.269 It's in the queue. No, I mean, that's the next 648 00:30:37.309 --> 00:30:40.170 leg of our journey, right? The comics and the novels. 649 00:30:40.950 --> 00:30:44.690 You realize how a lot of Lex's stories, when he 650 00:30:44.730 --> 00:30:49.309 gets a dedicated story, it's like a mystery crime story. 651 00:30:49.930 --> 00:30:51.700 You know, he's in a warehouse. He wakes up at 652 00:30:51.740 --> 00:30:53.140 a club hanging upside down. 653 00:30:54.910 --> 00:30:57.509 He met up with some woman at a party and 654 00:30:57.569 --> 00:30:58.809 now she's dead in his bed. 655 00:30:58.829 --> 00:31:03.029 Now she's dead in his bed. But this whodunit sounds 656 00:31:03.069 --> 00:31:06.309 like another crime story. 657 00:31:07.049 --> 00:31:09.470 I do love, and the thing about the novels is 658 00:31:09.809 --> 00:31:13.279 they came out early in this novel's run. All of 659 00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:17.579 the covers are season one promo images. The cover of 660 00:31:17.619 --> 00:31:21.470 this novel is Lex with his flashlight. From the pilot. Pilot, yeah. 661 00:31:21.490 --> 00:31:23.490 When he finds Clark in the field. Like, that's where 662 00:31:23.509 --> 00:31:23.910 we're going. 663 00:31:24.150 --> 00:31:26.470 I think in their head, it's like, oh, whodunit. We're 664 00:31:26.490 --> 00:31:29.309 looking for someone. Put him on, he's holding a flashlight 665 00:31:29.329 --> 00:31:30.470 in this photo. He's looking. 666 00:31:31.369 --> 00:31:34.470 No, I agree. Like, I support it. I think that 667 00:31:34.539 --> 00:31:37.960 is a good picture. And then, hey, one word title. 668 00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:39.910 They're doing it. You know, I respect it. 669 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:40.200 Yeah. 670 00:31:40.819 --> 00:31:42.299 They could have called, you know what? They should have 671 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:43.660 called Chimera whodunit. 672 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:46.140 They could have. Yeah. Yeah. 673 00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:48.400 They said, no, no, no, no. We have a novel 674 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:50.400 called that. Find something

else. And like, I don't know, 675 00:31:50.420 --> 00:31:53.920 just make it as password or something. So anyway, we 676 00:31:53.940 --> 00:31:55.619 will be covering these novels. We will read it. They 677 00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:57.819 will discuss it. Then I, I really, I'm going to 678 00:31:57.880 --> 00:31:59.660 save anything I have to say about this. Then did 679 00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.180 you read this excerpt, Eddie? 680 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:06.470 I did not. I read, I got about two paragraphs 681 00:32:06.549 --> 00:32:09.029 in and I was like, this does not have anything 682 00:32:09.089 --> 00:32:10.089 to do with the story. 683 00:32:10.450 --> 00:32:12.910 Well, but it's funny because thematically it does tie into 684 00:32:12.930 --> 00:32:16.150 the comic. That's what's interesting. But, Okay, I'll read one thing. 685 00:32:17.130 --> 00:32:20.089 Since we had Lex Luthor emails in this comic, let's 686 00:32:20.150 --> 00:32:24.380 read the Lex Luthor email from Whodunit. Lex Luthor, for 687 00:32:24.380 --> 00:32:26.980 $ 30 million, you can have your father back. Pay out 688 00:32:27.099 --> 00:32:30.480 like this. $ 10 million cash up front. $ 20 million moved 689 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.619 to a numbered account, which we will give you later. 690 00:32:32.900 --> 00:32:34.700 When the money is safe in our hands, we will 691 00:32:34.740 --> 00:32:36.880 deliver your father to a spot of our choosing. Do 692 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.089 not answer this email. We will contact you. P.S. The 693 00:32:40.130 --> 00:32:42.130 attachment is proof of our good intentions. 694 00:32:43.289 --> 00:32:48.150 I love that this hostage situation, they use PS. 695 00:32:48.490 --> 00:32:49.049 Yeah. 696 00:32:49.069 --> 00:32:50.930 So polite. 697 00:32:50.970 --> 00:32:52.789 I do love, he gets a fax later, right? And 698 00:32:52.809 --> 00:32:57.099 it says, Lex Luthor, check your email. So anyway, I 699 00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:01.279 love how Smallville straddled the line between like the, almost 700 00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:04.759 the pre-internet age and the post-internet age and cell phone age. Now, 701 00:33:04.859 --> 00:33:06.799 obviously we had cell phones and we had the internet 702 00:33:06.819 --> 00:33:09.559 in 2001, but it was like dial up internet. 703 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:09.920 Yeah. 704 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:11.119 It was sparse. Yeah. 705 00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:11.880 Yeah. 706 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.829 I mean, On the show, they got internet wherever they were, but... 707 00:33:16.569 --> 00:33:19.150 So what's after... What's going on after here? 708 00:33:19.779 --> 00:33:26.019 The next segment is Vowels. Released July 21st, 2003. Writer, 709 00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:33.009 Clint Carpenter. Art, Tom Dernick. Colors, Trish Mulvihill. Lettering, Comic Craft. 710 00:33:33.869 --> 00:33:34.589 Another one word. 711 00:33:35.230 --> 00:33:38.720 Yeah, Vowels. Now, Vowels... that could have been the title 712 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:40.960 for any of these wedding episodes we've done or whatever, 713 00:33:40.980 --> 00:33:44.480 but perfectly fits in. I could see that in the 714 00:33:44.500 --> 00:33:47.240 Krypton site episode list, you know, when they released the titles. 715 00:33:47.619 --> 00:33:47.869 Yes. 716 00:33:48.549 --> 00:33:51.289 So as much as Chimera is like, what are you, 717 00:33:51.549 --> 00:33:55.329 what are you pulling from here? Vowels. Perfect. But it's 718 00:33:55.710 --> 00:33:59.859 a Lex visiting Lana's horse stable, which, which again, like 719 00:34:00.099 --> 00:34:02.579 we've seen on the show, but you know, it's expensive 720 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:04.660 to take the crew out there and shoot on location. 721 00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:05.740 So we rarely saw it. 722 00:34:06.710 --> 00:34:09.590 I feel like this scene is straight out of one 723 00:34:09.610 --> 00:34:10.369 of the episodes. 724 00:34:11.349 --> 00:34:13.130 It's very much like Metamorphosis where they meet for the 725 00:34:13.170 --> 00:34:14.309 first time, I think. 726 00:34:15.050 --> 00:34:19.909 No, no, because this is after she's part owner right 727 00:34:19.949 --> 00:34:23.760 now of the talent. Yeah. And I remember him complaining 728 00:34:23.820 --> 00:34:28.320 about having to bring paperwork to her somewhere in one 729 00:34:28.340 --> 00:34:30.760 of the episodes. That's why this looks very familiar to me. 730 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:32.980 Oh, well, I do remember she would come late at 731 00:34:33.019 --> 00:34:33.940 night sometimes and. 732 00:34:33.900 --> 00:34:37.650 Deliver the- Yeah, deliver the- The payroll. Yeah. 733 00:34:37.909 --> 00:34:41.650 Environment metamorphosis is the scene I'm thinking of. You're thinking 734 00:34:41.750 --> 00:34:45.090 of the actual content of it. And is some of 735 00:34:45.110 --> 00:34:48.130 those like, she'd come by the Luther mansion. It's like midnight. Oh, sorry. 736 00:34:48.170 --> 00:34:50.139 I forgot to bring you the tax, whatever reports. 737 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:50.610 Yeah. 738 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:54.519 I think the likenesses here are okay. It's not as 739 00:34:54.539 --> 00:34:55.699 good as the last issue. 740 00:34:55.820 --> 00:35:00.119 It's not. I don't care for, after comparing it to 741 00:35:00.139 --> 00:35:03.440 the previous issue. Yeah. I thought that one was right 742 00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.989 on point. This one definitely takes some liberties. It's a 743 00:35:06.010 --> 00:35:09.909 different actress playing Lana in my eyes. Rosenbaum is still 744 00:35:09.929 --> 00:35:10.489 pretty close. 745 00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.639 Yeah, Lana's face is kind of stretched out a little bit. 746 00:35:14.699 --> 00:35:15.699 It's not Kristen. 747 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:20.960 No, but Rosenbaum still looks enough like Rosenbaum. Today is 748 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:26.579 her parents' anniversary. I love how they actually mention that 749 00:35:26.619 -->

00:35:28.989 her father is not her father. I was like, as 750 00:35:29.050 --> 00:35:31.070 I was reading this panel to panel, I'm like, okay. 751 00:35:31.739 --> 00:35:33.829 If somebody doesn't say your father's not your father, I'm 752 00:35:33.849 --> 00:35:35.510 going to complain about it on the podcast, but here 753 00:35:35.530 --> 00:35:35.909 it is, Eddie. 754 00:35:36.170 --> 00:35:37.929 Because it's right around that time. 755 00:35:39.469 --> 00:35:43.070 We should have delved more into this. Because Henry's small, 756 00:35:43.170 --> 00:35:45.889 he shows up, her focus is having a relationship with him, 757 00:35:45.929 --> 00:35:48.110 but she never really spends a lot of time pondering 758 00:35:48.150 --> 00:35:50.369 what that meant for her own parents, and that's what 759 00:35:50.389 --> 00:35:53.010 this situation is. She's like, my mother left my father, 760 00:35:53.070 --> 00:35:55.460 my father isn't really my father, even if they were alive, 761 00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:56.940 I don't know if they'd still be together, I don't 762 00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.360 know if they even loved each other. You would think 763 00:35:59.380 --> 00:36:00.480 this in her situation, maybe. 764 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:01.599 It's crazy. 765 00:36:01.619 --> 00:36:06.260 And then Lex pulls out a, well, you know, before 766 00:36:06.300 --> 00:36:09.340 my mother died, classic Lex story. I should have had 767 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:11.670 a counter for that. I think of all these counters now, 768 00:36:12.230 --> 00:36:16.070 I should have had. But talks about how a quarter 769 00:36:16.110 --> 00:36:18.130 horse that he had mentioned, and they're talking about horses 770 00:36:18.170 --> 00:36:20.389 and stuff. I sold him the year my mother died. 771 00:36:20.630 --> 00:36:23.980 Until then, he lived on a ranch in Montana. 772 00:36:25.059 --> 00:36:25.599 In Montana. 773 00:36:26.550 --> 00:36:28.349 Again, places you... I mean, they would have shot this 774 00:36:28.389 --> 00:36:29.670 in Canada, I guess, if it were on the show. 775 00:36:29.690 --> 00:36:30.929 But it's nice that we could just go to a 776 00:36:30.949 --> 00:36:33.670 very different place and that sort of thing. And, hey, 777 00:36:34.929 --> 00:36:38.530 this is our first canonical look at Lillian Luthor, Eddie. 778 00:36:38.909 --> 00:36:42.210 This is wild. When I first saw this, because I 779 00:36:42.269 --> 00:36:46.199 remember her from the show, and this is implying that, like, 780 00:36:46.219 --> 00:36:48.909 she was going through chemo, I think. Because is that 781 00:36:48.949 --> 00:36:49.780 what's going on here? 782 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:51.019 Yeah, that's why she's bald. 783 00:36:52.099 --> 00:36:52.440 Yeah. 784 00:36:53.219 --> 00:36:56.340 And in the show... I don't remember her having chemo. 785 00:36:56.389 --> 00:36:57.800 I thought it was just like a postpartum. 786 00:36:58.059 --> 00:36:59.539 No, it is. 787 00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:01.340 Was

it a cancer thing? 788 00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:04.619 She did have postpartum depression, obviously with what happens with Julian. 789 00:37:04.659 --> 00:37:04.860 Right. 790 00:37:04.940 --> 00:37:07.780 But yeah, it was, it was, it was, I think 791 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:09.840 it was, it was cancer. It must've been, I feel 792 00:37:09.860 --> 00:37:12.480 like it was cancer. They don't really specifically say what 793 00:37:12.500 --> 00:37:15.179 it was, but, uh, because all of the flashbacks we 794 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.619 see her before that. And then obviously she's ghost mom. 795 00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:21.750 So she's, you know, looks like herself, but, uh, And 796 00:37:21.829 --> 00:37:25.239 this continued to perpetrate my theory, and I think most 797 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.719 people's theories, that Lillian was a redhead because Lex had 798 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.300 red hair, and all these women that Lionel's into have 799 00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:33.619 red hair, but then she kind of has brown hair. 800 00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:35.510 I feel like they realized that later, and they kind 801 00:37:35.550 --> 00:37:37.090 of put more red in the actress's hair when she 802 00:37:37.110 --> 00:37:40.429 kept coming back for further episodes. But Lex has a 803 00:37:40.429 --> 00:37:43.050 cowboy hat, and she hasn't put it on. It's cute, right? 804 00:37:43.610 --> 00:37:45.309 It's very cool seeing him like this. 805 00:37:45.789 --> 00:37:47.989 Yeah, and Lillian's like, your father said you'd look handsome 806 00:37:48.030 --> 00:37:51.480 in it, which is a lie. he would never say 807 00:37:51.500 --> 00:37:53.880 that that's what you do right so come on mom 808 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:56.500 you both know one of his secretaries bought it you 809 00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.909 know that's but they're riding these horses you know and 810 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.719 uh lillian knows like she's not in good shape here 811 00:38:02.739 --> 00:38:05.110 and she just wants to enjoy this time together on 812 00:38:05.130 --> 00:38:07.030 this farm right and that's the kind of purpose of 813 00:38:07.070 --> 00:38:09.670 it and alexis she's like hey try and stop me 814 00:38:09.690 --> 00:38:11.449 from having a good time she takes off with the horse. 815 00:38:11.849 --> 00:38:13.789 She wants to live life before it's. 816 00:38:13.710 --> 00:38:18.969 Gone exactly and then the helicopter lands and alexis says 817 00:38:19.010 --> 00:38:22.389 what are you doing here dad You should seriously reconsider 818 00:38:22.409 --> 00:38:27.170 that ridiculous hat. So I'm glad that immediately it's revealed that, yep, 819 00:38:27.590 --> 00:38:30.630 Lillian was making that up. Lex is absolutely right. He 820 00:38:30.670 --> 00:38:32.730 thinks the cowboy hat was stupid. 821 00:38:33.590 --> 00:38:36.769 I'm surprised he didn't like it because it covered his 822 00:38:36.829 --> 00:38:38.659 bald head, which he was ashamed of. 823 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:41.159 Right? Because he wore that baseball hat at school and stuff, 824 00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:44.940 so it does really track. And again, Lex is like, 825 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:47.519 you're not buying his act, are you? And she's like, 826 00:38:47.539 --> 00:38:49.820 don't talk that way about your father, Alexander. I'm glad 827 00:38:49.860 --> 00:38:53.679 he's here. And so like, That's an interesting dynamic because Lex, 828 00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:56.599 he doesn't like his dad, but his mom still loves 829 00:38:56.659 --> 00:39:00.139 his dad. It's complicated, right? They're a complicated family. 830 00:39:00.500 --> 00:39:01.719 Families are complicated. 831 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:05.949 They are. It's complicated stuff. Family dynamics, right? But then 832 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:11.409 a snake spooks Lillian's horse and she's about to fall 833 00:39:11.429 --> 00:39:14.070 off the horse. The horse goes crazy, gets bucked off 834 00:39:14.090 --> 00:39:18.130 the horse. Who catches her but romance novel cover Lionel 835 00:39:18.170 --> 00:39:20.739 Luthor with his manes of hair and his chest like 836 00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:23.559 what Fabio Lionel here appears I mean. 837 00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:26.480 I can see him looking like that we've seen. 838 00:39:26.340 --> 00:39:28.489 John Glover was an amazing shape on. 839 00:39:28.409 --> 00:39:31.389 This show exactly like and this would have been what 840 00:39:31.389 --> 00:39:33.449 20 years no probably 10 years. 841 00:39:33.349 --> 00:39:36.090 Earlier yeah but it's just the way he's presented is 842 00:39:36.130 --> 00:39:39.090 just like this dashing hero coming in and then Lex 843 00:39:39.150 --> 00:39:41.090 even says in that moment I saw my father the 844 00:39:41.139 --> 00:39:43.409 way my mother chose to see him I thought that 845 00:39:43.429 --> 00:39:46.880 was very very interesting the dynamics there again Lex tells 846 00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:48.480 Lana for the next few days he waited on her 847 00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:51.730 hand and foot And once my cynicism returned, I asked 848 00:39:51.769 --> 00:39:53.610 if she really was going to let one act of 849 00:39:53.650 --> 00:39:56.889 heroism make up for years of neglect. What did she say, 850 00:39:56.929 --> 00:39:59.570 Lana says? She said she promised to love my father 851 00:39:59.630 --> 00:40:02.429 for better or for worse. Sometimes it's worse, she said. 852 00:40:02.489 --> 00:40:05.429 But today, it's better. This is a beautiful little story, 853 00:40:05.469 --> 00:40:05.929 I think, Eddie. 854 00:40:06.730 --> 00:40:12.860 It really was. An insight to Lex having some real 855 00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.139 time with his mother. Because we knew in the show 856 00:40:16.179 --> 00:40:18.340 that he loved his mother. And he had a lot 857 00:40:18.380 --> 00:40:21.820 of guilt with Julian. But we never really saw any 858 00:40:21.860 --> 00:40:26.300 relationship or flashback with him and

his mother happy. So 859 00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.480 to have this little snippet of him being happy with 860 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.300 his mother, I thought that was pretty cool. 861 00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:35.500 And this is pre-Memoria, too. So like I said, this 862 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.719 is the first time we see Lillian. I'm sure at 863 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.179 some point they knew, at some point we're going to 864 00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:45.340 flashback and see Lex's mom. But if we never did, 865 00:40:45.389 --> 00:40:46.820 this would still work very well. 866 00:40:47.510 --> 00:40:49.590 It did, because can you remember a time when you 867 00:40:49.670 --> 00:40:53.699 saw Lex, like an older Lex? Would you say Lex 868 00:40:53.739 --> 00:40:58.079 on the horse in this flashback? How old was he here? 15, 18? 869 00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:00.780 He's a teenager. In the show, we never saw him 870 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:01.960 as a teenager with his mom. 871 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:03.679 Yeah, he was just a little kid. 872 00:41:03.860 --> 00:41:05.539 Just a little kid, that's it. 873 00:41:07.019 --> 00:41:08.840 But the point of Lex's story here to Lana is 874 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:13.599 about commitment and his parents and how their devotion to 875 00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:17.429 each other and trying to trying to help her process 876 00:41:17.489 --> 00:41:21.250 her feelings about her parents. And did they love each other? 877 00:41:21.389 --> 00:41:23.389 And that sort of thing, because like a lot of things, well, 878 00:41:23.409 --> 00:41:26.280 they just got back together because my mom was pregnant 879 00:41:26.469 --> 00:41:29.199 and it's his way of helping her. And it's, it 880 00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:31.219 seems to help her. So that's what matters. 881 00:41:31.300 --> 00:41:36.039 Absolutely. And I like to think that Lana's parents loved 882 00:41:36.099 --> 00:41:40.030 her and they were in love. I do think that, 883 00:41:40.230 --> 00:41:43.590 and you know, things happen where, you know, they, they, 884 00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.900 they separated and they came back together, but you know, 885 00:41:47.940 --> 00:41:51.519 I think she was loved, but she was also a 886 00:41:51.579 --> 00:41:54.119 very young child when they died. That's hard. 887 00:41:54.590 --> 00:41:57.150 Well, as Lex tells her, don't sell commitment short, Lana. 888 00:41:58.010 --> 00:42:01.389 It may not be poetry and passion, but it's real. 889 00:42:02.050 --> 00:42:05.820 And then we get Lana at her parents' grave as we've, 890 00:42:06.539 --> 00:42:08.000 been known to see her do over the course of 891 00:42:08.019 --> 00:42:09.739 the show. And then Lex said his mother's grave, which 892 00:42:09.780 --> 00:42:11.619 we saw his mother's grave on the show as well. 893 00:42:11.909 --> 00:42:15.309 So I like this too, because like Lex and Lana, 894 00:42:15.329 --> 00:42:17.909 like they, they are, they are kindred spirits in many

ways. 895 00:42:17.949 --> 00:42:20.130 They are, they have similar things about them. Like the 896 00:42:20.150 --> 00:42:21.530 show takes it too far. I don't want him to 897 00:42:21.570 --> 00:42:24.760 get married. Okay. But there's a reason they have this 898 00:42:24.900 --> 00:42:28.480 kind of outsider connection, young trauma, like, like they bond 899 00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.559 in some ways. And this shows how they do connect 900 00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:34.630 outside of the Clark of Clark has no, no, role, purpose, 901 00:42:34.789 --> 00:42:38.150 anything mentioned in this story, right? But these two characters 902 00:42:38.210 --> 00:42:39.989 are connecting and that worked for me and it shows 903 00:42:40.030 --> 00:42:41.530 the parallels between them there at the end on the 904 00:42:41.570 --> 00:42:42.630 two graves. I really like that. 905 00:42:43.449 --> 00:42:45.929 We could have gotten more of this and we would 906 00:42:45.949 --> 00:42:48.670 have all been happy with that because this shows a 907 00:42:49.469 --> 00:42:52.400 true connection between the two of them where, you know, 908 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:56.119 maybe down the line if something did happen it would 909 00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:59.900 be maybe not too crazy as it was in the 910 00:42:59.940 --> 00:43:02.329 show where it was just kind of like a a 911 00:43:02.369 --> 00:43:05.750 snap of the finger and they're together. The way they 912 00:43:05.789 --> 00:43:08.550 brought them together was probably worse than anything. The way 913 00:43:08.590 --> 00:43:11.730 they kept them together was even worse than that. But this, 914 00:43:12.030 --> 00:43:16.949 this little comic book to show their shared trauma with 915 00:43:16.989 --> 00:43:19.510 their parents did a lot. 916 00:43:21.190 --> 00:43:23.030 You know, speaking a lot as parents, as we wrap 917 00:43:23.090 --> 00:43:29.269 up here, this story void, the episode where Lex, Lana 918 00:43:29.289 --> 00:43:31.889 and Clark all die and see their parents in the afterlife. 919 00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:33.300 Yes. 920 00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:36.269 Really missed opportunity with Lana and her parents to kind 921 00:43:36.309 --> 00:43:38.489 of address some of this. Like they weren't interested in 922 00:43:38.530 --> 00:43:39.630 that by season five. 923 00:43:39.670 --> 00:43:41.530 Just a little bit. Yeah. It would have been so nice. 924 00:43:41.869 --> 00:43:44.469 But it's like, hey guys, like you weren't my dad. 925 00:43:44.489 --> 00:43:47.090 He's like, but I loved you anyway. Right? Like anything. 926 00:43:47.550 --> 00:43:49.760 All they had to say was like, we're proud of you, Lana. 927 00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:54.239 They were just NPC characters. And that's, it's unfortunate because Lana, 928 00:43:54.539 --> 00:43:57.900 she becomes such a, loses her agency to all these 929 00:43:57.940 --> 00:43:59.889 other characters over the course of the show. That could 930 00:43:59.909 --> 00:44:02.849

have been something uniquely for her. And they just, That 931 00:44:02.889 --> 00:44:05.409 was just like, okay, we got to get, check, Lana's 932 00:44:05.469 --> 00:44:07.710 our parents next. You know, like it was a mechanism 933 00:44:07.750 --> 00:44:11.110 to get to the Jonathan and Clark scene, which was fantastic. 934 00:44:11.150 --> 00:44:13.440 And the Lillian and Lex scene as well, which is fantastic. 935 00:44:13.900 --> 00:44:16.579 But they just, they totally just, they were not interested 936 00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:18.699 in Lana and her parents at that point. 937 00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:21.000 They were not interested at all to see what was 938 00:44:21.019 --> 00:44:23.440 going on with Lana's parents. And it was a shame. 939 00:44:23.460 --> 00:44:23.739 Yeah. 940 00:44:26.789 --> 00:44:28.630 On WB's New Tuesday. 941 00:44:28.989 --> 00:44:30.170 I think Lex is in serious trouble. 942 00:44:30.670 --> 00:44:32.809 Whatever's happening with Lex is starting to affect you. 943 00:44:33.030 --> 00:44:34.650 A friendship in question. 944 00:44:34.869 --> 00:44:35.949 There's a lot I don't know about you. 945 00:44:36.309 --> 00:44:37.469 I'm asking you to stay out of this. 946 00:44:37.849 --> 00:44:39.869 A secret that won't stay buried. 947 00:44:40.340 --> 00:44:42.119 After tonight, you'll never hurt anyone else. 948 00:44:42.699 --> 00:44:43.170 Who are you? 949 00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.099 What do you want? Don't you remember? 950 00:44:47.139 --> 00:44:48.800 You killed me. 951 00:44:49.679 --> 00:45:02.710 An all-new Smallville. On the WB's new Tuesday, an all-new Smallville. 952 00:45:02.730 --> 00:45:04.820 You stay away from Martha, or I promise you, you 953 00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:05.480 will regret it. 954 00:45:05.940 --> 00:45:09.860 Lionel Looser, shot. He threatened him, Clark. 955 00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:11.579 Someone put that gun in my dad's hand. 956 00:45:11.659 --> 00:45:13.320 A crime with many suspects. 957 00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:15.159 Are you trying to free my dad? 958 00:45:15.179 --> 00:45:16.900 So now you're implying I pulled the trigger? 959 00:45:16.940 --> 00:45:18.550 And one ultimate betrayal. 960 00:45:18.820 --> 00:45:20.050 I want you to stay out of this, Clark. 961 00:45:20.070 --> 00:45:22.190 It's not like I haven't seen you shoot someone before. 962 00:45:22.489 --> 00:45:36.030 An all-new Smallville. How far would you go to speak 963 00:45:36.389 --> 00:45:37.389 to the dead? 964 00:45:37.429 --> 00:45:41.030 Oh, Dad. You're acting like a junkie trying to find 965 00:45:41.090 --> 00:45:41.690 an X-Fix. 966 00:45:42.269 --> 00:45:44.050 It's not what you think. 967 00:45:44.090 --> 00:45:49.780 Why would Lana do something so dangerous? 968 00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:51.059 Clark, please help me. 969 00:45:53.300 --> 00:45:56.539 That's going to take us to our final segment of 970 00:45:56.940 --> 00:46:01.480 Smallville No. 3. Smallville episode guide season one by Jamie Bernard. 971 00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:04.440 These should have been included in the DVDs. 972 00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:07.219 No, they got to make you go buy the comic 973 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:08.000 for him, though, Eddie. 974 00:46:09.260 --> 00:46:11.650 Okay, put it next to the DVDs. I would have 975 00:46:11.690 --> 00:46:15.449 bought it. This episode guide is so cool. Yeah. 976 00:46:15.670 --> 00:46:17.130 No, but I especially like in the things that I 977 00:46:17.170 --> 00:46:19.889 am calling out here on these podcasts are the little 978 00:46:19.989 --> 00:46:24.000 stat box at the beginning of each episode synopsis. Meteor 979 00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:26.800 fallout and special effects alert. I think those are fun. 980 00:46:26.820 --> 00:46:29.139 They usually have some fun with those phrases, so we'll 981 00:46:29.179 --> 00:46:34.550 go through them here as we've been doing. Jitters. Meteor fallout. Shake, rattle, 982 00:46:34.610 --> 00:46:36.489 and roll. Kind of insensitive. 983 00:46:37.289 --> 00:46:37.570 Wow. 984 00:46:37.590 --> 00:46:39.590 Considering this man dies from the jitters. 985 00:46:41.289 --> 00:46:43.309 It's like a condition that he gets. 986 00:46:43.469 --> 00:46:46.969 Yeah. Special effects alert. Good vibrations. 987 00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:48.619 Wow. 988 00:46:48.860 --> 00:46:53.719 I'm like, wow. That is, yeah. Jitters kill people. yes 989 00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:57.989 and of course the great Tony Todd is the guest 990 00:46:58.010 --> 00:47:00.630 star here R.I.P. he was great he was great on 991 00:47:00.670 --> 00:47:02.750 Smallville he was great as the Candyman he was great 992 00:47:02.789 --> 00:47:05.070 on Babylon 5 he was great on Star Trek he 993 00:47:05.090 --> 00:47:09.110 was just a genre legend Final Destination right a very 994 00:47:09.130 --> 00:47:11.530 appropriate final role for him too in that last Final 995 00:47:11.570 --> 00:47:14.769 Destination movie for him too but a real legend of 996 00:47:14.809 --> 00:47:17.469 the genre and a great voice actor as well he 997 00:47:17.510 --> 00:47:20.349 voiced Zoom on The Flash and he voiced Venom in 998 00:47:20.369 --> 00:47:21.570 some Spider-Man games. 999 00:47:21.429 --> 00:47:23.820 Yes he did he was fantastic I. 1000 00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:25.420 Actually got to meet him, as I've said on the 1001 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.480 podcast before when I was a kid, and he's a 1002 00:47:27.500 --> 00:47:34.550 great guy. So he is missed. Rogue. Meteor Fallout. Secrets galore. 1003 00:47:34.570 --> 00:47:36.789 Because there's not a meteor. 1004 00:47:36.809 --> 00:47:37.889 Rogue was a great episode. 1005 00:47:37.989 --> 00:47:40.150 It was a great episode. It's an ultimate episode, thanks 1006 00:47:40.190 --> 00:47:40.409 to you. 1007 00:47:40.449 --> 00:47:41.690 It's an ultimate episode. 1008 00:47:42.190 --> 00:47:45.219 Meteor Fallout. There wasn't a meteor freak, so they go, secrets. 1009 00:47:45.420 --> 00:47:49.599 I'm like, okay,

whatever. Special effects alert. Faster than a 1010 00:47:49.619 --> 00:47:52.639 speeding bullet. That's perfect, because when Phelan shoots the gun 1011 00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:54.880 at him, That's the first time Clark's been confronted with 1012 00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:56.460 a bullet come out of him. He just slowly moves 1013 00:47:56.500 --> 00:47:59.840 out of the way. And super cool. So very appropriate 1014 00:47:59.860 --> 00:48:00.619 thing to call out there. 1015 00:48:01.139 --> 00:48:03.349 That was a great episode for special effects. 1016 00:48:03.469 --> 00:48:06.309 Absolutely. The bus crash, you know. 1017 00:48:06.650 --> 00:48:09.170 They could easily go with something with the bus for 1018 00:48:09.230 --> 00:48:10.269 the special effects alert. 1019 00:48:10.550 --> 00:48:13.010 Bus stop. Ha ha ha. 1020 00:48:13.050 --> 00:48:15.980 Whatever. Bus stopped. Shimmer. 1021 00:48:16.820 --> 00:48:22.579 Meteor fallout. Invisibility. Special effects alert. A skeleton up to 1022 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:23.039 no good. 1023 00:48:23.820 --> 00:48:24.570 That's a stretch. 1024 00:48:24.820 --> 00:48:26.429 Well, at least they didn't call out that mace to 1025 00:48:26.449 --> 00:48:29.190 the face, which is a terrible special effect, which they 1026 00:48:29.230 --> 00:48:31.409 love on this show, which they're like, let's put it 1027 00:48:31.429 --> 00:48:34.090 in the opening credits for multiple seasons. 1028 00:48:34.309 --> 00:48:38.349 You compare that to the bus, which is in multiple 1029 00:48:38.610 --> 00:48:42.050 opening seasons. It might be in all the openings. It's 1030 00:48:42.130 --> 00:48:42.710 night and day. 1031 00:48:42.849 --> 00:48:44.250 And you know what? It's fine. Look, it was a 1032 00:48:44.329 --> 00:48:46.010 quick shot in an episode of season one. 1033 00:48:46.389 --> 00:48:46.650 Fine. 1034 00:48:46.889 --> 00:48:49.269 But then don't just broadcast it every day with your 1035 00:48:49.530 --> 00:48:51.610 opening credits. And then finally, Hug. 1036 00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:52.030 Hug. 1037 00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:55.659 Meteor Fallout, a killer handshake. 1038 00:48:55.940 --> 00:48:56.780 I love that. Pretty good. 1039 00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.159 Special effects alert through the eye and into the brain, 1040 00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.900 which is the CSI thing with how they kind of 1041 00:49:04.940 --> 00:49:07.480 do the, you know, they show the handshake power working 1042 00:49:07.539 --> 00:49:08.260 on the brain. 1043 00:49:08.469 --> 00:49:09.090 Yeah. 1044 00:49:09.510 --> 00:49:12.489 So that's fun. Pick up the next issue of Smallville 1045 00:49:12.550 --> 00:49:15.630 for more of our episode guide. And there's some good 1046 00:49:15.670 --> 00:49:17.769 photos in this, too. Like, in the last issue, there 1047 00:49:17.809 --> 00:49:21.800 was only two episodes, and... and Craving didn't even get 1048 00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.579 a photo so like it's kind of weird that it's 1049 00:49:25.619 --> 00:49:27.659 not very balanced and like oh well let's put four 1050 00:49:27.739 --> 00:49:28.639 in this one and there's plenty of. 1051 00:49:28.619 --> 00:49:31.260 Photos around but these are all photos these are all 1052 00:49:31.300 --> 00:49:32.619 screenshots right. 1053 00:49:32.500 --> 00:49:36.880 No these are promotional photos these are promotional photos that 1054 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:41.340 they took on set trust me during my during all 1055 00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:43.619 of my social media and other things with doing the 1056 00:49:43.659 --> 00:49:46.550 podcast I know what the promo photos are I know 1057 00:49:46.570 --> 00:49:49.130 what screenshots are and it's funny how well you know 1058 00:49:49.170 --> 00:49:50.969 you love bringing this up on the ultimate season if 1059 00:49:51.369 --> 00:49:53.090 you go to IMDB look at the episode it's the 1060 00:49:53.130 --> 00:49:56.210 DVD box right they do that when there are no 1061 00:49:56.269 --> 00:49:58.210 promotional images for the episode I don't know if they 1062 00:49:58.230 --> 00:50:00.670 just didn't get a photographer that week or whatever but 1063 00:50:00.730 --> 00:50:03.010 they don't they just didn't have anything on set they 1064 00:50:03.070 --> 00:50:06.159 usually get those during rehearsal I mean every TV show 1065 00:50:06.179 --> 00:50:08.400 does it differently I guess but obviously you don't want 1066 00:50:08.420 --> 00:50:10.579 a camera guy going in there interrupting actual filming, so 1067 00:50:10.619 --> 00:50:13.800 usually when they're doing their run-through, that's when the, if 1068 00:50:13.820 --> 00:50:15.670 they have an on-set photographer, we'll get these kind of photos. 1069 00:50:15.869 --> 00:50:17.789 I just thought they were snippets from the show. 1070 00:50:18.070 --> 00:50:21.389 No. You can tell sometimes, because especially in the pre-HD era, 1071 00:50:21.429 --> 00:50:23.309 like when books have to do that, I'm like, hmm, 1072 00:50:24.030 --> 00:50:26.670 that looks kind of low-quality. Yeah, because someone did really 1073 00:50:26.750 --> 00:50:29.309 try to take a screenshot from a TV or something, 1074 00:50:29.389 --> 00:50:32.489 but that's Smallville issue three. Now, one last thing for 1075 00:50:32.570 --> 00:50:37.070 us here. Neil Bailey from the Superman homepage reviewed No way. 1076 00:50:37.489 --> 00:50:40.389 All of these. Yes, yes. I have not been telling 1077 00:50:40.429 --> 00:50:42.099 any of my guests about this. I'm saving it to 1078 00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:44.119 the end. And I was hoping for that kind of reaction, Eddie. 1079 00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:48.099 He reviewed every Smallville comic book, or at least I 1080 00:50:48.139 --> 00:50:50.139 think so. If he stops at some point, we'll find 1081 00:50:50.179 --> 00:50:52.360 out together, listeners, because I didn't read these reviews back 1082 00:50:52.380 --> 00:50:54.019 then because I wasn't reading the comics back then. I

1083 00:50:54.059 --> 00:50:56.190 read his reviews for the episodes back then. But I 1084 00:50:56.210 --> 00:50:59.329 didn't know he was reviewing these comics. So he reviews 1085 00:50:59.349 --> 00:51:02.269 the cover art, the articles, the pictures in the articles, 1086 00:51:02.429 --> 00:51:04.670 and the comic book stories. And, you know, we're not 1087 00:51:04.710 --> 00:51:08.969 doing tally boards and ratings and rankings here in our conversation. 1088 00:51:09.550 --> 00:51:12.340 But because, you know, Neil Bailey's reviews were such a 1089 00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:14.780 big part of our podcast and he reviewed these, I'm 1090 00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:15.920 just going to read through them here. 1091 00:51:16.500 --> 00:51:16.840 Excellent. 1092 00:51:16.900 --> 00:51:21.920 And react accordingly, Eddie. So smuggle number three, cover art, 1093 00:51:22.460 --> 00:51:23.280 four out of five. 1094 00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:27.699 Okay. I would have given it a five out of five. 1095 00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:29.340 If this isn't a five out of five, I don't 1096 00:51:29.380 --> 00:51:31.659 know what is, but four out of five it is. 1097 00:51:32.900 --> 00:51:37.239 Good to be bad, Michael Rosenbaum. Interview, four out of five. 1098 00:51:37.929 --> 00:51:40.429 You know what? I feel like this is that syndrome 1099 00:51:40.469 --> 00:51:43.429 where it's only the third one, so he doesn't want 1100 00:51:43.449 --> 00:51:47.570 to give the top grade right away. 1101 00:51:47.730 --> 00:51:49.190 He's given some low scores before, though. 1102 00:51:50.289 --> 00:51:51.869 That's what I'm saying. He goes, oh, maybe I can't 1103 00:51:51.889 --> 00:51:54.190 give it a five because the next one will be better, 1104 00:51:54.230 --> 00:51:55.079 and I can't give that. 1105 00:51:55.010 --> 00:51:55.510 One a five. 1106 00:51:55.860 --> 00:51:57.260 Well, these are some of the highest scores he's given. 1107 00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:58.969 I'll let you know that. So I would, I would 1108 00:51:59.030 --> 00:52:00.849 absolutely have given the cover a five for sure. 1109 00:52:00.909 --> 00:52:01.489 Absolutely. 1110 00:52:01.710 --> 00:52:03.929 Um, but yeah, the interview four out of five, that's fair. 1111 00:52:03.949 --> 00:52:05.929 It's just, to me, it's still so strange. Why are 1112 00:52:05.949 --> 00:52:10.550 you rating interviews and then rating the photos in the 1113 00:52:10.590 --> 00:52:14.230 interview separately? So he gave the photos 3.5 out of. 1114 00:52:14.449 --> 00:52:16.769 Five, the photos that are inside the interview. 1115 00:52:16.869 --> 00:52:17.389 That's correct. 1116 00:52:18.090 --> 00:52:19.329 That's weird. Yeah. 1117 00:52:19.869 --> 00:52:22.610 Uh, chimera five out of five. 1118 00:52:22.630 --> 00:52:27.929 Uh, What? 1119 00:52:27.949 --> 00:52:29.030 Look, I enjoyed the story. 1120 00:52:29.210 --> 00:52:30.090 It's a nice story. 1121 00:52:30.369 --> 00:52:33.690 It's incomplete. It's not mind-blowing. I can't hold that against it. 1122 00:52:35.070 --> 00:52:38.139 I'll tell you this. The last issue, issue two, beauty. 1123 00:52:39.019 --> 00:52:41.559 I love that. I thought that was a great Smallville story. 1124 00:52:41.940 --> 00:52:43.840 I would have given that five out of five, honestly. 1125 00:52:44.380 --> 00:52:45.739 He gave it one out of five, Eddie. 1126 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:46.320 Wow. 1127 00:52:46.460 --> 00:52:49.820 So I have no idea. I have no idea how 1128 00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:53.280 he comes up with these opinions. But hey, art, five 1129 00:52:53.300 --> 00:52:54.460 out of five for Chimera. 1130 00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:55.199 Perfect. 1131 00:52:56.280 --> 00:53:04.849 Whodunit. Novel excerpt. Writing. One out of five. Plot. Four 1132 00:53:04.889 --> 00:53:09.050 out of five. I'm not sure where that distinction is, honestly, 1133 00:53:09.349 --> 00:53:10.650 but I know. 1134 00:53:10.889 --> 00:53:11.090 I know. 1135 00:53:11.250 --> 00:53:15.789 I think he means story. Like, the story sounds cool, 1136 00:53:15.809 --> 00:53:17.829 that's a four out of five, but the writing about 1137 00:53:17.889 --> 00:53:18.670 it is terrible. 1138 00:53:18.769 --> 00:53:22.489 Yeah, like, idea, execution maybe would be better titles for that, but, 1139 00:53:22.969 --> 00:53:32.010 and finally, photos, three out of five. Lex in that flashlight. Vows. Story. 1140 00:53:33.110 --> 00:53:34.849 Five out of five. Nice. 1141 00:53:35.190 --> 00:53:35.789 Good. I'm glad. 1142 00:53:36.150 --> 00:53:36.630 I agree. 1143 00:53:36.949 --> 00:53:37.510 That earned it. 1144 00:53:38.010 --> 00:53:41.340 I agree. He says, I will say this. I don't 1145 00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:43.679 read a lot of what he says in these recaps here, 1146 00:53:43.699 --> 00:53:46.380 but I'll read this. This issue is turning Smallville the 1147 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:49.820 comic around for me single-handedly. I cannot believe how thematic 1148 00:53:49.860 --> 00:53:52.320 and well put the last two stories have been towards 1149 00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:55.579 the Lex mythos. And I agree. I agree. The special 1150 00:53:55.619 --> 00:53:58.969 Lex Luthor issue is paying off, right? Art, four out 1151 00:53:58.989 --> 00:54:01.710 of five. I agree. He says not as good as 1152 00:54:01.730 --> 00:54:02.949 the last one, and we both agree with that. 1153 00:54:03.449 --> 00:54:03.670 Yes. 1154 00:54:04.309 --> 00:54:07.570 And then finally, Smallville episode guide season one continued, episodes 1155 00:54:07.610 --> 00:54:11.750 eight through 11. Article, three out of five. Photos, three 1156 00:54:11.789 --> 00:54:14.889 out of five. I find it even more ridiculous to 1157 00:54:15.530 --> 00:54:16.969 rate an episode guide. 1158 00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:21.179 Yeah. What are you rating here? It's a description of 1159 00:54:21.219 --> 00:54:21.820 the episode. 1160 00:54:22.190 --> 00:54:23.880 I feel like I'm tearing apart these reviews that he does. 1161

00:54:23.929 --> 00:54:28.719 It's just so fascinating. His approach is so intriguing to 1162 00:54:28.739 --> 00:54:31.019 me that he would approach it this way. So anyway, 1163 00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:33.380 that's Smallville number three. 1164 00:54:33.860 --> 00:54:38.480 Wait, is it? You got to do the back. 1165 00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:41.139 Oh, you want to talk about DC on demand, Eddie? 1166 00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:42.000 Yes. 1167 00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:42.900 Let's hear it. 1168 00:54:43.340 --> 00:54:46.179 This looks great. First of all. We got Batman on here. 1169 00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:49.510 We got Joker. They had the hot list this month. Oh, 1170 00:54:49.730 --> 00:54:52.289 Smallville number four is coming out in two months. 1171 00:54:52.869 --> 00:54:54.989 Yeah, it's a bi-monthly series. 1172 00:54:55.630 --> 00:54:56.650 That means twice a month. 1173 00:54:58.809 --> 00:55:02.099 You see, we needed another word in the English language 1174 00:55:02.139 --> 00:55:06.099 for bi-monthly because bi-monthly can mean twice a month or 1175 00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:08.699 it can mean every other month. Like bi-weekly. Oh, I 1176 00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:10.840 do it bi-weekly. Oh, twice a week. No, every other week. 1177 00:55:10.860 --> 00:55:12.760 What are you talking about? So I don't understand why 1178 00:55:12.780 --> 00:55:16.239 the English language works that way. It was probably smart 1179 00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:17.719 to come out every other month with Smallville. 1180 00:55:17.980 --> 00:55:18.440 I agree. 1181 00:55:18.820 --> 00:55:19.619 For sales purposes. 1182 00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:21.760 But we talked about how it was like the infancy 1183 00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:23.500 of the internet and things like that. It has on 1184 00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:28.559 here like DCComics.com, keyword DC Comics on AOL. You have 1185 00:55:28.579 --> 00:55:33.179 to go to keyword for stuff on AOL. They're advertising 1186 00:55:33.219 --> 00:55:35.789 a Batman comic on here, Batman number 620. 1187 00:55:35.789 --> 00:55:41.269 They're also advertising Superman Birthright number 1 of 12. Mark 1188 00:55:41.349 --> 00:55:45.019 Waid returns to DC as Lionel Yu makes his DCU debut. 1189 00:55:45.260 --> 00:55:47.460 Everyone knows Jor-El sent his infant son to Earth to 1190 00:55:47.500 --> 00:55:50.559 avoid death on Krypton. This story takes a closer look 1191 00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:53.440 at Jor-El's emotional struggles with the decision. Are you a 1192 00:55:53.460 --> 00:55:54.880 Superman Birthright guy, Eddie? 1193 00:55:55.820 --> 00:56:00.369 I did like Birthright. Yeah. I did. I have not 1194 00:56:00.389 --> 00:56:02.269 read a lot of comics in my life, I have 1195 00:56:02.329 --> 00:56:04.969 to admit. But someone put me on to Birthright, and 1196 00:56:05.050 --> 00:56:06.150 I enjoyed it very much. 1197 00:56:06.670 --> 00:56:08.789 A lot of people love it. I enjoy it. I'm 1198 00:56:08.829 --> 00:56:11.750 more of a Superman Secret Origin guy myself. Written by 1199 00:56:11.809 --> 00:56:13.989 a friend of the show, Jeff Johns. So what can 1200 00:56:14.030 --> 00:56:17.369 I say? But no, we were just inundated with these 1201 00:56:17.389 --> 00:56:20.969 Superman origin stories at this time. But the thing about 1202 00:56:20.989 --> 00:56:24.099 Superman Birthright is it's not uniquely Smallville because Smallville took 1203 00:56:24.139 --> 00:56:26.420 it from the comics. But Clark Kent and Lex Luthor 1204 00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:29.699 know each other and are friends in Smallville. So don't 1205 00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:31.360 tell me Smallville the show didn't influence that. 1206 00:56:31.739 --> 00:56:33.239 Smallville is the blueprint. 1207 00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:36.320 Smallville is the blueprint, Eddie. Well said. But see, that's 1208 00:56:36.340 --> 00:56:38.170 why these things are such fun time. Thanks for pointing 1209 00:56:38.190 --> 00:56:40.110 that out, though. I actually haven't I really haven't been 1210 00:56:40.130 --> 00:56:41.690 talking about I should take more attention to those at 1211 00:56:41.710 --> 00:56:44.550 the end of these issues because these are fun time capsules. 1212 00:56:44.769 --> 00:56:46.329 Exactly. Time capsules. 1213 00:56:46.610 --> 00:56:50.929 And it takes you back. So but yes, that is 1214 00:56:51.530 --> 00:56:55.449 Smallville number three. So Eddie, thanks so much for. taking 1215 00:56:55.469 --> 00:56:57.230 the time to be on the podcast. I'm sorry. You're 1216 00:56:57.250 --> 00:57:00.409 not going to see how, uh, Chimera part two turns out, 1217 00:57:00.449 --> 00:57:01.849 but stay tuned next time for that, Eddie. 1218 00:57:02.190 --> 00:57:03.969 I can't believe you're ripping this from me. 1219 00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:08.400 You're going to think Malcolm's actually dead. 1220 00:57:08.820 --> 00:57:12.579 Oh my goodness. No, it was a pleasure, Zach. Thank 1221 00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:13.280 you for having me. 1222 00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:15.579 Absolutely. So Eddie, if people want to find you out 1223 00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:17.539 there online, where can they find you? 1224 00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:21.489 Uh, they can find my wife's, uh, animal rescue on 1225 00:57:21.550 --> 00:57:25.860 Facebook and Instagram and, at Valley Cats and Friends or 1226 00:57:26.099 --> 00:57:29.840 at Lend a Paw for helping the cats out. So 1227 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:31.460 that'd be nice. Awesome. 1228 00:57:31.739 --> 00:57:33.219 And shout out to Eddie. I was recently in New 1229 00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:34.579 York City. He was a great host. Him and his 1230 00:57:34.619 --> 00:57:36.820 wife got to save their house, went to a Yankee 1231 00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.159 stadium game, get the Yankees and Astros play each other. 1232 00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:40.800 We're both big sports fans. That was a lot of fun. 1233 00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:43.280 So we got to recently hang out and it was 1234 00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:46.210 a

great time hanging out. And this is great about this, 1235 00:57:46.230 --> 00:57:48.130 but I would not know you if we didn't do 1236 00:57:48.150 --> 00:57:51.190 this podcast, right? So that's, what's great about this stuff, right? 1237 00:57:51.510 --> 00:57:53.800 We love shows and we have hobbies and, And you 1238 00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:55.360 never know where they're going to take you. And I've 1239 00:57:55.380 --> 00:57:57.199 made a lot of friends over the years doing podcasting, 1240 00:57:57.219 --> 00:57:58.860 and I'm glad to count you as one of them, sir. 1241 00:57:59.139 --> 00:58:02.230 Thank you. Ditto. Right back at you, pal. All right. 1242 00:58:02.250 --> 00:58:03.730 Well, that's going to do it for us this time 1243 00:58:04.170 --> 00:58:06.510 on Always Hold on to Smallville. But stay tuned next 1244 00:58:06.570 --> 00:58:11.650 week when we discuss Smallville No. 4. But until then, 1245 00:58:12.050 --> 00:58:13.829 always hold on to Smallville. 1246 00:58:14.409 --> 00:58:15.039 Smallville No. 1247 00:58:15.030 --> 00:58:38.840 4 Always Hold On to Smallville is part of the 1248 00:58:38.940 --> 00:58:41.420 Always Hold On To network of podcasts and brought to 1249 00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:46.889 you by listeners like you. Chris Fuchs, Corey Moore, Isaiah Goodridge, 1250 00:58:47.190 --> 00:58:51.860 Atif Sheik, John Curcio, Mark Hitzfoppen, Patricia Carrillo, Rhythm Chameleon, 1251 00:58:52.139 --> 00:58:56.639 Jim Crawford, Casey Vach, Rui Humphrey, Alex Hamilton, Matt Douglas, 1252 00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:03.130 Daniel Curiel, Meryl Smith, Travis Hull, Amy Jay, Mike Franz, Alana, 1253 00:59:03.650 --> 00:59:08.789 April Everyday, Jared Slack, Danny Z, Nathan McKenzie, Steve Rogers, 1254 00:59:09.190 --> 00:59:14.260 Molly Ficcarella, James Lee, Jason Davis, Patrick Bravo, Alex Ramsey, 1255 00:59:14.619 --> 00:59:20.079 Tay Tay, Tina B, Jake, Jacob, John Bob, Nathan Ropacher, 1256 00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:25.750 Dylan D'Antonio, Nick Rhine-Bagdoza, Eddie Bissell, Nicholas Fanzler, John Long, 1257 00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:32.150 Ruthann Heyman, Travis Kill, Mike Thomas, Nina J, Gordon Bombay, Raj, 1258 00:59:32.590 --> 00:59:37.969 Alexander Verticio, Joey Dienberg, DJ Duena, Darren Kirst, Jared Gibbs, 1259 00:59:38.429 --> 00:59:43.670 Anthony Anderson, Keith Falls, James Hart, Anthony Desiato, Crystal Cross, 1260 00:59:44.130 --> 00:59:48.550 Kiran Kumar, and Joy Langlos. Thank you so much to 1261 00:59:48.570 --> 00:59:51.110 all these patrons. And you too can become a patron 1262 00:59:51.429 --> 00:59:55.639 by going to patreon.com slash alwaysmallville with one S. Hope 1263 00:59:55.659 --> 00:59:58.909 to see you there. Always Hold On to Smallville's theme 1264 00:59:58.929 --> 01:00:01.630 music is by Lance Laster and our podcast art is 1265 01:00:01.670 --> 01:00:04.239 by Tom Gerke. You can follow us on Twitter at 1266 01:00:04.300 --> 01:00:06.780 alwaysmallville with one S. You can find us on Facebook 1267 01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:09.820 at alwaysholdontosmallville and you can send us an email at 1268 01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:14.309 alwaysmallville at gmail.com once again with one S. Thanks for listening.