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Incredible flavours, even better stories. One Pour,
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10 Minutes. Aussie bourbon lovers sharing bourbon with Australia.
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Oh, it's like a boom. Yeah, a bit of a boom rather than a pop.
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I love it. What are we having tonight, H? We're having a Sneakerhead blend from
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2XO. One of my favourite things is when we have these Denver and Lily glasses
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out is that the pours just get good and really good. And we often
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reserve these glasses for good purpose. And this is a good one. It is 2
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XO and it's got the coolest label. There's like a gold sneaker
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on it, which is one of the reasons I think originally when we
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were first tasting it, we picked it off the shelf. I was like, cool label.
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Hang on. It was a Dead Set recommendation. So I'm not going to lean into
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this narrative of we just picked it for the picture. No, no, no. We didn't
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pick— sorry, we didn't pick the tasting of it. But it's— to me, it swayed
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me. I liked it. The fact the label was cool swayed me
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to go, yeah, we can squeeze that into our luggage because we were in Louisville
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at a cool little bar called— well, it was
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funny because I went to try and think of the name of it and I
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couldn't for the life of me remember the name of it. And then I was
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out for my walk one morning and I had Ed Sheeran playing in my
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headphones and he was— one of the lyrics was Evergreen and I was like,
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oh, that's it. That's the place I've been trying to remember the name
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of was Evergreen Liquors. And Evergreen Liquors isn't a bar. Well, no, it's like
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a bottle shop, but it has a bar in it. Definitely. It's really cool.
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Really cool. And we're talking about the one in Noorloo, but there's one in Bardstown
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as well. Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. That was a long story. Cheers.
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Cheers. I like a long story, but I also like getting
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a chance to taste my bourbon. To taste it. What are you getting on the
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nose of this? Because this is like, for me, this is one of these bottles
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that we have up there and it's been up there for a year now.
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And we're just very slowly working our way through it. I'm really pleased we're having
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some tonight. Yeah, we really like it, but we also know we can't really replace
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it. Not going to get any more of it. Yeah, it's one of those ones
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that like you don't want to drink too fast, but you
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really enjoy it. So it's tricky. I'm getting kind
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of hazelnutty. Actually, last night at dinner we had this dish that had
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hazelnuts and butter, and it was— I'm getting a little bit of that.
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I'm definitely— you definitely smell butter.
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It's like a— yeah,
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you're right with the buttery nuts, but I definitely got butter. Buttery nuts.
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You hear those buttery nuts in there, Bourbon?
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Popcorn? Yeah, maybe a little bit. Not popcorn, but that, like, that the
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smell you get when it's like the butter's melting and the It's like,
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it's definitely buttery. Also like candied oranges
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or something like that. Like, imagine if you, you know, oh, I know what it
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is. It's that thing. There's a, there's a, there's a chocolate treat that you get,
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which is like a, like a dehydrated
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orange that's been candied or something and then dipped in chocolate. Oh, yes.
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That's what I'm getting. More of the one, the round dark chocolate one you get
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that splits open the orange. You know, Terry's Chocolate
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Orange. Yeah. Really? Oh yeah, I'll go for that.
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Okay. Yeah, sure. Why not? Why not?
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What about on, on the palate, Dave?
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Does it match? I always— I used to really love, like, nosing it and
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tasting it and discussing the differences. Is it aggregated? Now I'm like, that word
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you love. I like to find ones that, like, match and then ones that
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are different. You cooked me, by the way. Terry's Chocolate Oranges have completely cooked that.
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Sorry. I am getting Terry's Chocolate Orange on the palate.
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That is a good— that's really a very strong
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flavor descriptor of what I'm getting here. It's that,
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but it's got the right amount of like zing and punch and
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heat that you want from a really nice bourbon.
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My goodness, the structure of this.
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It's delicate and light, but there's the oakiness afterwards, but it's hanging around
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and it's gonna stick there for a good amount of time. Yeah, you get that,
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that fruitiness up front, but then there's like an oakiness that's
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left on your tongue. Is it weird to say I'm getting like popping candy?
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That's a weird thing to say because popping candy is like an experience
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where the thing is
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popping on your tongue. Yeah, but it's that sweetness with the,
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like, like the chocolate. It's probably that
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you're getting the chocolate. Okay, well, I'm going to— I'm going with popping candy.
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Popping candy and Terry's Chocolate Orange. Imagine if Terry's Chocolate Orange had popping
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candy in it. This is going to be for our international fans. They're going to
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go, what the heck is Terry's Chocolate Orange? Imagine you
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get orange-flavoured chocolate and it comes looking like an
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orange and you unwrap it and you have to tap it at the top and
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it turns into these orange segments. And every
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year for your birthday, that's what your mum gives you. That's what I got after
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sport when someone's chopped up all the orange into quarters. And then
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this is made of chocolate. I know this is a recurring theme, but it was
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my 40th birthday recently and my brother, as a cute and sweet
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gift, gave me A Terry's Chocolate Orange is like a harking back
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to what Mum used to give me. Yeah, it's a very lovely gift actually.
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And I ate it. It was good. Oh, I was going to say, have we
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got any leftover? Because it would go really well with this. Like paired— this
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paired with a Terry's Chocolate Orange. I would eat that immediately
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and drink this. What a good idea. I can see why.
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And it was the thing about Evergreen Liquor was that they— when
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we go there, we just get them to recommend different stuff. And this was one
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that we just drank on someone else's recommendation.
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Okay, go on. Sorry, finish. And I just love the fact that then
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we were like, we should buy it. Here's the thing that needs to happen at
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these places. Can I, can I paint the picture of what this looks like?
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This is like a— it's a liquor store with a bar
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in it. And around the bar, so imagine part of the counter, like a
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long counter at a liquor store. That's got everything you expect, like chips and,
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you know, where you can buy jerky and, I don't know, mini bottles
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of liquor or whatever it is. And then down one end, there's like a little
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L-shaped bar, has enough seats for 8 people. Yeah,
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about 8. Maybe no more than 8 people. And one
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of the liquor store attendants is basically a bartender who is,
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in this case, ridiculously knowledgeable. I'm pretty sure when we
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got this one, it was Tom still in Nulu. He was unbelievable.
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I'm not sure he's still there. The last couple of times I've been there,
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he hasn't been there. And so helpful.
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And so— and they've got these special deals and all that kind of stuff and
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they've got their own barrel picks and you kind of say what you want to
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spend. They've always got these crazy things where it's like today's $4 pour is this
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or whatever and you can taste something for $4. But then they've also got things
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like King of Kentucky and stuff where you can spend a bit of money and
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you can get these pours that you can't get anywhere else or it's very hard
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to get. I think he was really clever in we were able to describe some
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of the bourbons we loved, but we wanted to try something we hadn't tried.
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And he took that knowledge and went, well, you have— you like this and this
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and this, but you haven't tried this. Great. So clever.
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And so I think I, you know, and I think when we go,
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we try to get to Evergreen Fairbairn. We often stay not far away from there.
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We try to get there a few bits to try something different and new.
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And he kind of got to know a little bit of what we tried
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and what we knew and what we liked. And so after a few days,
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we're like, okay, cool. Give us something we haven't tried,
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asked us a few of the right questions, and then said, all right, try this
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one. And I think by that point, I think I was saying,
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all right, I want to buy some bottles to take back to Australia.
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Yeah. What should we be tasting here that we can grab? There's still bottles of
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back there that we can grab a bottle of. And this was one that he
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suggested. So here's some things that you— I don't think you would know about.
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So can you get this in Australia? Definitely, definitely not. Definitely not.
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2XO is the letters 2XO
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stands for 2 times oak. All of his expressions are double
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oaked. He is Dixon Devons. So he,
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he was the guy who reignited Kentucky
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Owl and then sold it to the Stoller Group. Yeah, this is back in 2017
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or something like that. So like, this is the Kentucky Owl thing. It was his
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thing. Yeah. So it was the Stoller Group and then he went on to do
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this and he
himself is a sneakerhead. A sneakerhead is
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someone who goes nuts for collecting sneakers. Oh, that's why it's got the cool sneakers
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on it. Yeah. The Sneakerhead Blend.
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Sneakerhead Blend. It's just such a cool bottle. I am
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a big fan of really
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good bourbon insider knowledge, and this is one of my favorite experiences of this thing,
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of like, that expression from these guys is
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great. I've also had some bum steers. I've got to be really honest that there's
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been some people who've gone, you've really got to try this thing. Yeah, but it
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wasn't what I want. Somebody else, because you never know what kind of palate they
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really want. But if you know your bourbons, I suppose,
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well enough and you're able to articulate what
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flavors you like, then, you know, chances are they'll pick
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something that you like. But the fact that, like, we bought
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it when we were over there for the Kentucky Bourbon Festival, when we were—
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had limited luggage space to bring back bottles means that
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I know we like, you know, when you buy a bottle and you've drunk something
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like, did we really like that or what's it like? This one I knew we
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loved because it came home in our bottle and we also had to go to
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Kentucky Bourbon Festival and buy bottles. The packaging is also off the chain.
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This is really good packaging. Yeah, really pretty. That sneaker
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design is— there are some bottles that I just throw in recycle and there are
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others that will never get recycled. I know.
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Bottle that will never— I'll figure out a way of— see the yellow bin.
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Upcycling it because it's so cool. Upcycle it? Yeah. Use it
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for something else. Okay. How could it ever get better
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use case than putting this beautiful juice in it? Once we empty the juice
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out of it, Dave. That's not upcycling. Okay. All right. You'd use
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it for a vase or, you know, it's definitely recycled.
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Put fairy lights in it and use it as a bed. That's a re rather
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than an up. Anyway, I'll lean into it. It's fine.
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I think the moral of the story for this
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one is that in bourbon terms,
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there's almost always— no, almost— there's actually
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always people who know plenty about bourbon around you
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who you should be curious about and listen to their
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views and take action when they give you good advice. I just,
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I just go with the try new things. Like, yep,
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wait, that's better. You've got— you've done it better. So let's do that one.
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Try, try new things. And in it, like in an environment like Evergreen
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where it's like great value to try a little pour or half pour or whatever.
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Yeah, try it. And if you don't like it, don't buy a bottle of it.
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But if you do like it, well, yeah, don't stand
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there idly looking at a bottle and going, I wonder if I should just get
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it. But it gives you a chance to try and try try stuff and then,
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and, and kind of try things that you might not normally try.
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Like if you're not a double oak person or if you're not a rye person
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or like try something that you wouldn't normally try because it might surprise
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you. That's a great shout. Or affirm what you don't like.
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In fact, I think this mash bill is supposed to be 35% rye,
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18% rye bourbon mash bill.
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That's a lot of rye for me, but I would never have said
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that this isn't a flavor profile I was after. It's, it's beautiful.
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There's a couple of high rye mashbills there. I'm really sad about how low that
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bottle is getting, but I'm excited to go back to Kentucky and
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see what other 2XOs we can try. That's true. Yeah, we do have another one
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up there. We'll talk about another time, but this is great.
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And oh, I'm so pleased we poured another one. And I'm glad we use these
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big fat glasses from the team at Deborah and Lyle.
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Thanks so much. They help make it taste really good. Try new things.
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