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I was young and growing up, I was a chess champion. And and have you phil sucks: boy. Phillip: seen the movie Becoming Bobby Fisher or something? He he beat someone to become national champion. And th phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: this guy's presentation was I played that guy that he beat one time. phil sucks: Hey, that's awesome. I'm glad for your commercial. what does that have to do with us? Phillip: I was just like this Well though Ken: Hey. Phillip: and then you go onto his LinkedIn page and his first sentence on about me was I was a childhood chess champion and I'm like I don't know anyone who has made more money off of that sentence. phil sucks: Dude, we could go on on this topic because this is something that I've had l at long length about my entire theory on life is about who you were in high school. My entire theory. Any everything in your life can be explained. It's an objective thing. There are real things. I'm telling you, Ken: Wait, so coming from the high school football star? phil sucks: you're gonna listen you would listen to it and be like, wow, every single thing. was set in stone for you from age 14 to age 18. Your entire world was set up. Your entire like social view, your self-esteem, everything was set up from the time you're 14 to 18. Ken Dammit, do not say anything about don't say anything about Phillip: I just Ken: You d you did you didn't meet a lot of doctors, have you? phil sucks: science. Don't say anything about this is all psychology. I'll bet you I'll bet you there's some some kind something to back me up on this. Phillip: This is all psychiatry. Ken: No, actually I I believe quite a bit of that. so I I do. Except you clearly phil sucks: yes. I gotta tell Basha that. Ken: don't know all of the like those nerds that be like the whole like, those nerds in high school are gonna be your boss one day. Turns out that's pretty true. phil sucks: See, but here okay, so here Phillip: You guys you guys talking about me again. Ken: Mm. phil sucks: is what here's my theory on that, which is I'll take that one step further, and the chess guy, which is I'll bet you any money that dude was a s okay, you chess chess players are highly intelligent, super nerdy, almost none of them are like like almost like savantic, like autistic level people, intelligence, okay. Probably wasn't all that popular in high school. How do you define popular? I don't know. Phillip: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, he wasn't just a chess player. He was a childhood chess champion, and we need to emphasize that more. phil sucks: good. So basically he was someone who nobody knew. And then all of a sudden was like, wow, the only way that I can make my mark and become famous is I have to announce exactly what I put on my LinkedIn page. All right, which is I am writing the coattails of someone else that's really famous because I was in the same room as them. And I'm telling you, part of that was. Fourteen to eighteen, this dude is like, man, probably a nerd, probably wasn't socially like. Out there and being, I don't know, popular, went through high school, went through college, and then probably was like, Man, I'm really smart though. Like Ken saying, super smart people. Generally, you're pretty successful. And then what's AI? AI at the end of the day is like a large language model that's very it learns based off of generally the rules that it finds. And he was like, that's kind of like chess. Hey. This and this and this thinking 10 steps ahead. This triggers this and this triggers this and this triggers that. And thus I want to do this right now. Work back to now. And then Phillip: I hate that you just nailed a 45-minute presentation for the whole senior leadership of nationwide that I walk phil sucks: Ha ha Phillip: like I worked my way into listening to on it and I like got out of it like this was a complete waste of time. I could you know get this in 10 Ken: Yeah. Phillip: minutes on YouTube. And Connor comes out on YouTube and nails it Ken: Four minutes. Phillip: almost word for word. Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: Just saying, I I I honestly back to this dude though. This dude was like, this is my niche. I can become as famous and well regarded and esteemed in this niche that a Fortune 500 company, 100 company, is going to hire me to explain this exact story on how famous I am and how I can relate it to AI. Phillip: Dude. I want like it was so annoying that everyone walked away like, I'm so inspired. We could do this and this. I'm like, he just talked about building strategy. This has nothing phil sucks: Ha ha Phillip: to do with AI. Anyways. Yes! Against someone phil sucks: And talked about playing chess. Phillip: that Bobby Fisher played one time. This phil sucks: Ha ha Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: this is awesome. This is good stuff, Phil. We should get famous for just talking about this. Phillip: This is what we need to clip. I'm gonna get fired, but it's worth our five minutes of fame. Ken: It's fine. But phil sucks: I love it. I'm okay if you cut it though in case you don't want to get fired. Ken: Hehehe. Phillip: No. Yeah, for phil sucks: Mm-hmm. Phillip: for like I said, for our five listeners. Whatever. I would tell the CEO in person if he phil sucks: Fine. It's fine. Either way. Ken: No. For just on your Phillip: asked me that his motto was ridiculous. phil sucks: Ha ha ha. Ken: Yeah. Kind of just on your basis of like what you do at like fourteen to eighteen, like where you get like your your motivation, your work ethic, drive, like all of that, like I've definitely like doesn't start but definitely matures at that time. And phil sucks: Yeah, yeah. Ken: like your motivation for what you want to do, really not at eighteen, but like nineteen, twenty and twenty one, and that really shapes everything. phil sucks: Yeah. Ken: I I I do think that a lot of that starts 'cause like the more successful people, the it's not always popular because but athletes they're typically hard working in they in the honors

classes getting better grades more motivated. And I just I definitely think that that's certainly something that starts around that age. phil sucks: Well, Phil, I don't know if you see this, but I'm telling you what I see. And I've been in a lot of organizations, I've been in what or five different organizations. And every single one of them, every one of them, has people like this, which is kind of awkward, not all that like socially personable or whatever. They lack that. But they're very high up. And they're very, very good at what they do, but they're very arrogant. And You're like, if you realize about if you were a team player, if you played sports in high school or something, you would have shaped that like being a prick, whether you're right or wrong, is not the best way for leadership. But in some way, they said, Hey, 18, 17, 18, 19 years old, I was not that popular because I wasn't good at the popular things, sports or speaking or friends or whatever. But I can learn these corporate rules. Corporate America, Phil, I don't know if you agree with this, is not that hard to navigate. Figure out who the decisions makers are, and then be really good at something that they like, and then you're set for life. So you got these people that literally were like, I am not very social and not very good necessarily at anything other than up to this point where other people would think I'm popular and important. And then they go. I can be very important at these set of rules, and I can go up. And then I'm inseparable. I am, everybody has to listen to me. Look at me. I'm awesome. You guys all have to respect me. I didn't get that Phillip: So it phil sucks: in high school. I didn't get that in college. But here, I'm a man. Phillip: It's so accurate that if you think about people in high school who are just like, I phil sucks: Mm-hmm. Phillip: can do whatever it takes to get an A. Like, if I could cheat my way through high school and get A's and have a perfect GPA and graduate on top. Those are the exact people that Connor is describing in the workforce now. It phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: it's they maybe they weren't those people in high school, but like those same archetypes. You you go in the workforce, they're just like, Yep, I will do whatever my boss says, I will make him happy. It doesn't I have no personal interest in the work or whatever. I just want his gratif what's that called? Gratitude. recognition. yeah. Ken: Recognition. phil sucks: yeah, recognition. Phillip: Recognition. I get promoted, I get I get the new job, and now I get to be an authority figure. And that means whatever I want it to be. Yep. phil sucks: I get to call the shots now. I get to choose. I get the power of choosing who's on my team. I get to tell people what to do. I got told what to do my entire life. And by the way, I watched other people in high school and the social constructs that are high school or college, even. And those guys and gals, those were the popular ones. I

did not get any of that attention. Now I'm here. You have to listen to me. You have to pay attention to me because I earn my way here. And the interesting thing that we talk about AI, which is that's gone. This whole layer that you built around a very, very specific thing that you were really good at, the stuff that was repeatable, the stuff that you said, I'm really, really good at this process, that's nuked. So you're gonna have a lot of people that are exposed who have never thought for themselves and said, I gotta make decisions based off limited data on a process that I've never done. And by the way, somebody else can do this process in about 15 seconds. They can give me the data, but I've never made decisions before. I've just been really, really good at this one thing, one thing, one thing, and I got promoted for it. Now somebody's like, yeah, we can do that a lot better and a lot faster. Phillip: Yeah, you you you literally just described my people I used to work with at Aon where it's like I can work so much faster and more efficiently to build a slide deck that is com comprehensive and really good. but I can't present it. However, when I present the complexity, like I look good for it. and instead it's like, yeah, now everyone can have that same thoroughness, that PowerPoint in like one AI. phil sucks: The PowerPoint jockeys are gone. They are gone. Because if you don't understand what AI puts there and knows whether it's right or wrong, like you've said, we've talked about this a million times. PowerPoint presentation making as a degree in college was basically a thing for the last, I don't know, 40 years in investment banking, right? And in corporate finance. I was the PowerPoint person. I make them look great. Never having Ken: All right. phil sucks: to explain that. Ken: I wouldn't what I said is something that I believe about adolescence and maturing, and it is definitely not what Connor was getting at. So say Phillip: Yeah. Ken: I agree with you, Connor, but absolutely not for any of the reasons that you're talking about, primarily because I don't work in corporate America and that's not how it works in the medical field whatsoever. That's all right. I know, I don't phil sucks: All right, Kate, I'm talking about corporate America and business. Ken: know, and I'm just saying that. What I said where I'm agreeing with you is not right. phil sucks: Hold on, on. Explain yourself because I am royally confused now. Phillip: Yeah. Ken: I think a lot of way more general than what you're talking about. I think that a lot of just general motivations of of people where their like their drive is because it turns out that that is so much more important than how smart you are or how athletic you are or anything like that. I think a lot of that is based on what you do in adolescence and also like. sometimes trying hard getting and not getting that recognition or being like being on a team and losing is just something that a lot of people don't know how to like cope with. It's like, do I continue to do that better? Is that something that do I work harder or do I just like sulk because I didn't get my way and I didn't get like the pat on the back. And I think a lot of that starts at that like at at adolescence, really before that, not so much. and besides that the not the whole niche finding it and then wanting the power part and finally getting it. that's just not something that that I see. And that's that's just not how I Phillip: that's the next level. See? Ken: see. Phillip: So so we agree, you just don't have the corporate background for it. Ken: Yeah, I phil sucks: Yeah, I was gonna say this part, the business part, in every finance arena, in every sales arena, in every whatever, in in corporate America in business, not in the medical field, I have I have it there's at least one. I could name them off top of my head, that is quite literally like so obsessed with their job, it is their identity. Because in my mind, they didn't have something to make their own identity, or they lacked it, or they missed it, or they wanted it and never got it. So they filled that void with doing whatever it is to be. the famous in their own universe, in their own four walls, at said company. Do you agree with that, Phil? Am I crazy? Does Ken just not know this? Phillip: You you just described a lot of math right? If if you're a good math student, it's like I just constantly solve problems and keep working up and it's like once I phil sucks: Math. Yep. Phillip: get a job that pays me, it's like, well, my purpose is to solve these problems. So eighty hours a week, whatever. phil sucks: And their complete identity is like in their Phillip: It's it's within their work. phil sucks: In their job. Phillip: Yeah. Yeah. They're they're all their relationships, everything. Even if they phil sucks: Everything. Phillip: have family, they're not close with their family. It sounds terrible, but Ken: I I've met that person who's the director of digital marketing for the east side of Cleveland that's like think that their position they say it so proudly and I'm like, Cool, that's awesome. And my response wasn't good enough. I like it should wow, that is the best job of all time. I can't believe that you have that. I I definitely see that a lot. phil sucks: Best advice I got when I was 22 years old, the guy's awesome. Like his name's Brian Grossberg. And he just said, because I wanted to jump to investment banking, and he was like, I can try and get you there, but like this is a data analytics job. Like we're our job is to interpret data. So like that's not exactly one for one investment banking, right? And he said Just be careful, understand why. Because he knew investment banking is like hundred-hour work weeks. You get one protected weekend a month. you literally, that is not a lie at all. He was like, just make sure you're not doing this for the coolest part of your entire world and your entire existence is

showing up to a party and saying, I'm in vet I'm an investment banker. And then everybody does that, what you just did, which is sick, man. And then moves on with their life. Because if they Ken: Yeah. Yep. phil sucks: if if if you're doing that. you'll never be satisfied because you'll always be like, man, I went all the way to the end of the world because I know I make a lot of money. But does anybody care outside of your own universe? No. So go be happy with what? Phillip: If you watch your watch your friends and neighbors on Apple TV, it's about John Hamm losing his job and then like having the realization that that's what his life was. and he's like, all I did is work eighty hours a week and then spend all of my money so that I could live in the rich area in New York and then impress the people in the rich area in New York. anyways. phil sucks: Vicious cycle. Or you could be like live with around Kent and live in the richest area of Cleveland. Ken: Definitely not. that's great. phil sucks: And have a nanny, a full Phillip: Ken Ken's phil sucks: time nanny. Phillip: the the house next to Ken's is where Nick Sabin lived when he lived in Cleveland. Right? Ken: It's down the street. Phillip: Next next door. Might as well be his house. Ken: All right. So you you you have Ken's neighbor like neighborhood and where Ken is. And then all the way down at the other end, there's a nice lake and there's houses on the lake. And those houses are worth three times what Ken's is. And I'm guessing that's where Nick Sabin was. Yeah, Lake Erie. Yeah. Lake definitely not Lake Medina. Yeah. phil sucks: Well yeah. Lake Erie. It's Lake Erie, so like I mean, know, obviously it's a big lake. It's Phillip: No, it is phil sucks: it's a it's a big lake, you know. I've I I could find it on a map. Phillip: not. It's Medina like Alright, that's enough. Ken: It's a nice lake. It Phillip: We gotta go before Cooper wakes up, guys. Come on. phil sucks: Alright, fine. Listen, people Phillip: If you have other things, I feel like we covered a lot. phil sucks: people just want to listen to people talk. They want to listen to smart people. we're the people, just so just so we're the people in high school that I'm talking about that were not the people I'm talking about. We're the other guys. All Phillip: Yeah. phil sucks: right. We were cool in high school. Ken: So by definition, your your assumption on all of what it means is counts for everyone except us three. phil sucks: Yeah, no, we're just the other side, which is no, we Phillip: No, no, no. phil sucks: no, we were we're I absolutely agree that my my outlook on life was still done between 14 and 18. I just wasn't the ones that I'm talking about. I was the other side which was like, I was cool, so I didn't have to impress anybody when I got to college and or the corporate America. Ken: Yeah, 'cause Phillip: We weren't Elon Musk. Ken: me and Phil were definitely cool. We yeah. phil sucks: Yeah. Ken: Yeah. That's it. We were cool. phil sucks: We were the we were Phillip: Yeah. phil sucks: the other ones, they were not cool and then they got and be now they're dicks in in in corporate America. Phillip: Alright. phil sucks: I'm glad all right, so I'm just gonna t go tell my wife that Ken Dr. Ken Call agrees with my theory on psychology and my wife will be like, see, you're the smartest. Yeah. Ken: You know what? Sure. That's that's Phillip: Does your wife Ken: fine. Phillip: not agree? Is her take that you're dead wrong? phil sucks: No, it's it's interesting. We No, Ken: She probably doesn't listen to him when he starts talking like that. That's what it is. phil sucks: this is the part that like I'm a like I l I I I I I see myself as a deep thinker. I spent a lot of time thinking about this stuff. And then she just listens to me and then she's kinda like, Yeah, I could Phillip: Uh-huh. phil sucks: that kinda makes sense. And then I'm like, Yeah, Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: let's talk about it. And she's like, No, it kinda makes sense though. Like let's explore that. And she's like, No, I don't care enough. Phillip: Smoke Ken: You Phillip: some weed first. All right. Ken: give her a hug and say thank you to her for what she does for you. Phillip: Now real quick, when she talks about the Kardashians or whatever borderline real housewife show. Dancing with the stars. Okay, so when she phil sucks: dancing with the stars. Dancing with the stars right now. Yeah. Phillip: talks about dancing with the stars, are you locked in for that? Or are you like, yeah, huh? phil sucks: no, I laughed my ass off and I'm like, why are we watching this? And she was like, You don't see me yelling at you when you turn on football and I'm like, Yes you do Yes you do. Phillip: I am going to download Ken: Yeah. Phillip: that cut of you being your wife and send it to her. phil sucks: She I I'm like literally every time I turn it on, she's like, You're dead to me from one o'clock, aren't you? I'm like, Yeah, I am. Every Sunday, one o'clock. I'm dead. Like I don't do anything. Yes, I earned Phillip: Why why do we have to argue about it every week? phil sucks: my one day a week to do this. Leave me alone. And then she does. She's like, I don't say anything. I'm like, yes, you Phillip: And then you go out and Yeah. Well, kids took that away from me. phil sucks: do say anything every time. Every time. Ken: I watched football for ten minutes on at one o'clock on Sunday and leave for, you know, a minute out of the room and come back and frozen on. And phil sucks: What? Phillip: Ken, Ken, you need to let it go. You're welcome. phil sucks: See, I don't have children though, so Ken: Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah. phil sucks: I don't have children yet. So the whole point is she just threatens the She's saying no, you can't do this when we have kids, right? You know that, right? And I'm like, Yeah, baby right here watching TV, what you talking about? Phillip: For the record, baby right there? Absolutely. That one

that one's possible. Ken: God. Yeah. Phillip: Toddler right there? No. all right. Yeah. phil sucks: All right, fine. Good segue into the NFL talk. Good talk, everyone. Phillip: So do you know who's playing like a baby? I don't know. I tried my best. Washington at Ken: god. Phillip: New York, Thursday night football. You know, it's phil sucks: That was weak. No, we just have the the we have the fighting we have the fighting JJ McCarthy who somehow all of a sudden is relevant again. Phillip: Did you guys watch the clip I sent? I think I sent it to you guys where it was JJ McCarthy gets Phantom injured. He threw a warm-up pass and he collapsed. Ken: Yeah. No, did you see the one I sent phil sucks: don't get me wrong. Ken: where it's like Pat Mahomes does the first ever what's that stupid dial that they if you poke it and it hurts or Phillip: Voodoo. Ken: yeah, does the first ever phil sucks: voodoo. Ken: voodoo and you see him shaking off his elbow, it looks like his elbow's done, and two seconds later you see him in the game and you see it goes to J.J. McCarthy just getting killed on the sideline. Phillip: Mm-hmm. phil sucks: Dude. Dude, the craziest thing is that Gardner Minshew got the exact same thing, the exact same hit, one for one, that Patrick Mahomes got and snapped his UCL. And somehow Patrick Mahomes comes out for one play and is like, I'm good. There is some voodoo going on, Ken. Something is going on. And I've also seen we've this is gonna be great segue. I've also seen all of the all of the Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: the entire San Francisco and Kyle Shanahan teams have sold their souls to the substation so that CMC can get the life force of everyone that it hurts and stay healthy. It's kind of the same thing. I don't know what I don't know what the equivalent Ken: Dude. Dude. Phillip: They sacrificed a receiving core to keep CMC healthy. phil sucks: is for Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes, but they're doing it now. Ken: D Phillip: Somehow they bought the rights to JJ McCarthy. Ken: Dude, phil sucks: And somehow Ken: clean it. phil sucks: they basically said J J McCarthy's life force is put in Patrick Mahomes whenever he gets hurt. And now they just sacrifice Gardner Minshew. Ken: Keenan Allen's gonna walk on that practice field and just gonna hear two pop pop and Achilles are gonna be done. phil sucks: what's up? What's up? Phillip: I was gonna say get is Keenan Allen who has Hammy and popped Achilles. Like the guy can't run already. phil sucks: Yeah. They're gonna be like, Was that a gun? No, it was just human's legs. Phillip: He's used to playing like this. Ken: No. phil sucks: And then they're like, and then you see Super Mario CMC and he's like, Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: I just powered up. Must be new meat. Phillip: anyways, Washington at the Giants. dude, Connor, you have the Giants. Ken and I have Washington. It's a three, but it's close to a pick It's two and a half. phil sucks: This is basically a pick'em. I honestly think Newark Giants defense is is is actually good. You guys know they have three top ten picks or top 10 top 15 picks. Brian Burns. Brian Burns Phillip: Reese Abdul Carter. Yeah. phil sucks: is out. Sorry. Burns is out, but he did have because he tore his, he tore his Achilles, didn't Ken: Yeah. Whatever it was, it was season ending. Yeah. phil sucks: season ending. But they have even though Kayvon Thibodeau sucks, they have Kayvon Thibodeau, they have Arvel Reese and they have Abdul Carter. Arvel two out of three of those guys are really good. So Phillip: Arvell Reese is nuts. I've said all I've seen is just Ken: Arval Reese looks good. Phillip: like Arizona is just like we decided to take a running back who doesn't play instead of this really, really, really good player that we desperately need for defense. phil sucks: Yeah. He's a freak. All right. So I thought he was it was just so weird to watch him at Ohio State because at Ohio State he he was used as a I don't wanna like like a jack position, which is like you're an off ball, sometimes you're a defensive end, but you're mostly a will linebacker, and then but you basically are just like a super athlete to just like roam the field and like they kind of are doing the same thing. he plays Mike sometimes, but he also rushes to the edge and they're just letting him do that. And I don't know. They also have Deontay Banks this year, which apparently is a shutdown corner and he hasn't been up until now. So this is more about like the Washington Commanders having nobody but Jaden Daniels and the ghost of Stefan Diggs. And what else do they have? Rashad White, yeah, he's good. Austin Eckler, yeah, he sacrificed his Achilles to the substation. Like, I mean what do they have? I don't know. I just feel like this is a loose pick'em and I'll take the better defense. Phillip: It's so funny because I actually thought JD McDaniels was gonna be a solid, the best running back on that team. Not a good player, but the best running back on that team with Billy Billy Merritt out. Yeah. That's that's that Yeah, that what is the fuck? phil sucks: McNichols? Talking about McMah McNichols? JD McDaniels? What is this? the Ken: Jeremy McNichols. Yeah. phil sucks: version what hold on. Is that basically saying, hey, we're hey, we've Ken: Ha ha ha. phil sucks: got food at home and it's just it's like McDonald's Phillip: Yeah. phil sucks: is what you just wanted it Ken: Can of spam. phil sucks: to be, and you're like, We got it at home, and it's just like ground beef. You're like, Yeah, that's JD McNichols. Phillip: I got we got we got we got Frosted Flakes hosted by Terry the Tiger or Frosty Flakes, yeah. phil sucks: Yeah, Terry the Tiger. You tried to say Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: frosted flakes, but somehow you ended up with Whole Foods or Wheat Bran or something. Phillip: Dude. I got some Cheerios and I dropped some sugar on it. phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: anyways, so yeah, I thought he was I thought Jeremy McNichols, my bad, was

actually a solid foot not a great football player, but good enough. phil sucks: He's on IR now. Phillip: Yep, and that's I was gonna say, so I don't like anything that they have except for Jaden Daniels, and that is better than JJ McCarthy. That's the entire logic phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: of thinking Washington wins. Ken: I don't want that's it. I don't want to take J JJ McCarthy giving up any points, period. Cam Scadaboo coming off of a hammy. I I I do not trust that man to come off of a hammy. I think that you see Saquon going like in and out because he's just like putting too much on it. Cam Scadboo only knows how to put too much on it. phil sucks: Well, he never breaks away from runs. He r he finds people and is like, friggin' he's basically sitting out there running like Bobby Boucher, trying to find somebody he's like, Where there you are. And then he runs after them. Open open lane. No way. Going right at the safety. Let's just so he's only gotta run 15 yards. Ken: Well, I I don't trust him to take care of himself. Yeah. Phillip: But he's still trying to push him over. That's Hammy. phil sucks: The only time he Ken: But phil sucks: pulled it was when he broke away and was like, I've never done this before. His body's like, shut down, Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: stop. Hmm. Ken: Okay, well, I just can't get get behind it, except for I do gotta say that Malik Neighbors l does just look like a a number one stud. Yeah. Absolutely. phil sucks: He defied the the medical odds. Ken was like, this has never happened in the history of ever. Ken: Didn't say that. phil sucks: You thought it though. Phillip: The I see the other guy, Isaiah likely has been insane, right? I thought Ken: Isaiah Life has been good, yeah. Phillip: he was good, but he's just like a monster. phil sucks: Fifty I think it's fifty five percent highest first or second. Like they have the concentration of their targets is like similar to Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, C D Lamb, Pickens. It's that it's that heavy. Phillip: It's actually working and JJ McCarthy's are in the ball. I don't get it. It's not fair. Anyways. phil sucks: It is weird that JJ McCarthy all of a sudden doesn't look like a cheater. before you were like, this makes sense in Minnesota because he got the answers to the plays before Kevin O'Connell's really smart. Okay. Now we understand JJ sucks. Now he's gone and he's like, wait a minute, this guy can throw the football? This is weird. Ken: I think the more that you see J J McCarthy, the more we're gonna be like, yeah, that's why the Vikings give up on him. Yeah. Yep. phil sucks: yeah, he does suck. This is a mirage. This is a short term thing. Phillip: So so Ken: Yep. Phillip: so you you you're buying it for another week, but maybe not after that? phil sucks: I'll buy it for another week, but I'm also like if this was not Washington Swiss cheese, then I would say, okay. JJ will do enough Swiss cheesiness in some way, shape, or form to put enough points on that Washington will somehow fumble the game, throw a pick, do something on not on offense that the Giants will beat them enough by more than a field goal. That's it. Phillip: So right now this Giants are two games or a game and a half because of the stupid tie ahead of the Cowboys for the division. phil sucks: Mm. Phillip: Do you think the Giants win the division? They're four two and more or what is that? Four, three and one or something stupid. Five, three and one. Yeah. Ken: No, they're yeah, they're five, two and one. It's five, phil sucks: Yeah. Ken: two and one. Cowboys are four and five. And also that's why I'm taking because I just think that they're the record just way better than what they are. And eventually they're gonna start losing. phil sucks: Yeah, but see I just th I I'd look at it as the only reason they're winning is because of their defense. Their offense is mm, okay. Phillip: they got the Ken: That's true. Yeah. Phillip: gift of playing Joe Milton, right? Ken: Also, phil sucks: I Ken: Jaden Daniels should have beat them already. He then they just completely messed it up and I d I I'd say he can't do it again, but it's every single week. Phillip: Cam Scadaboo lost that first though, phil sucks: I just I don't know. I the toss up the Dallas thing is if you watched Dallas in their Dallas should have lost last week to the Colts. Dallas should have absolute or two last week or two weeks ago? Phillip: Last week. They lost two weeks ago on a comeback from the Cardinals and they almost blew it again last week. phil sucks: Y that's what I'm saying. I I would almost maybe say this division sucks, period. End of story. If someone has to win, it's the Giants. It's not the Atlanta Falcons division, but don't remind me about divisions or conferences Phillip: I was gonna say I think I take the Cardinals as the favorite. Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: or anything. I don't know them. We've been over this. You don't need to remind me that I don't remember what divisions any of these people play in. Okay. Phillip: You're doing a great job. we'll get you a participation trophy. It Ken: Just know that Phillip: says tried. Ken: the NFC playoffs would be better if they just took the two best divisions and let all eight of those teams play. I know there's only seven and just forget about the NFC South and the NFC East. Phillip: Should we have like a a like a a top NFL tier and then like a sub tier like Division I A and Division I double Ken: Yeah. Phillip: A? phil sucks: Basically what they're doing in college right now, yeah. Phillip: Yeah. anyways, let's go to a real football game. New England at Detroit. This is over in Madrid, right? phil sucks: Yeah, I can't believe you just said that after Ken: Munich, Munich. phil sucks: Drake May. Have you guys seen the splits between Drake May playing good defenses and bad defenses? It's like Phillip: No. phil sucks: wildly bad. His like his his like QB Rick QBR goes down by like 30 points when he plays like a top

fifth top half defense versus when he plays a bottom half defense. Luckily, luckily, this should be a shootout, but I'm still taking the Detroit in this pick'em. But I'm saying that's only because they suck at defense. Ken: Wait, you're picking Detroit because they suck at defense or the Patriots because they suck at defense? phil sucks: Y yeah, I think it's gonna be a shootout and I just think Detroit's gonna win. Ken: they just a little more firepower? phil sucks: Just a little bit more. I think this is going to be a shootout. And I think that Drake May will all of a sudden throw the ball and be better. he also is missing his wide receivers, but he'll still throw points. He'll still put up points. But he also threw three picks, should have been four picks last week against the Packers, who are all of a sudden a good defense. Ken: it it's like an obvious by low spot on the the Patriots. But also Detroit, I mean, had a real tough game with Miami that they didn't need to phil sucks: Fair, I get that, but I like Miami because they're scrappy, okay? Ken: Yeah. Phillip: J Mo, Sun God, Jameer Gibbs. if it's a shootout, I take the better players. phil sucks: Okay. Phillip: That's it. And those are the best three on the field offensively. phil sucks: Yeah, and the other part Ken: This is gonna phil sucks: is Ramondre Stevenson and that entire backfield, they all suck anyways. Hurts me to say. But Phillip: Trays, Ken: The Corey Kiner Phillip: trays out. Ken: looks solid, man. phil sucks: I know. You know where he's from Cincinnati. Cincinnati Princeton, stand up. Ken: Well, I got him on two fantasy teams and I need him to do good 'cause he's the only one left. So I'm a big fan. phil sucks: Lon Larson. There we go. That's who I'm getting. Phillip: Do you Ken, will Ken: Sure, go for it. Phillip: will Hendo come back after they're by in two weeks? Kind of important. I need to know if I need to cut in fantasy. phil sucks: I would cut him. Ken: Now, if you're in a ridiculously large league and there's absolute a 14 Phillip: our fourteen team league. Ken: team league, definitely keep them on your team. The problem is I have no idea what's going on. They just said neurologic condition. And that could be a whole lot of things. And I have no idea on a timetable, but think of nerve kind of like either like neck every anywhere from A funky st stinger to a funky neck injury. So yeah, you were saying it, Phil, was it over the weekend where you're just like, yeah, by the way, neck injuries just don't heal. Phillip: Yeah. Ken: and it's it's all about how he's improving. He had these random nerve symptoms and that for him, I'm assuming that that's some type of like motor issue or like legitimate like muscular weakness. my nerve is not physically like functioning enough. And that's scary. So I would be very hesitant. I I'm I'm pretty pessimistic on what he is gonna do, but I once again have no idea. They've given us an extremely generic, they're just calling it illness for a while. I have I have no clue what's going on. phil sucks: People were like, Phillip: All right. phil sucks: it could be the early onset neurological p I don't know. I'm gonna butcher this. Not muscular dystrophy, but something that's like a big crazy neurological deal. It's early onset symptoms. And I'm like, Ken: Multiple sclerosis. phil sucks: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Ken: Yeah. like multiple sclerosis, there's like that early like Parkinson's and so funky stuff. but I I I really doubt something like that, but I don't know. phil sucks: yeah, that's kinda like when people were like, AI's gonna kill us. We're like, that's technically c a possibility. Ken: Ha ha. Phillip: Mm-hmm. phil sucks: technically, yeah, you're not I can't say there's Ken: So phil sucks: a non zero chance of that happening, but yes. Ken: I would imagine they would have put him on the IR if it was something like where they're like, we're gonna take time. phil sucks: Yeah. He's out this weekend though, already been ruled out. Ken: He's already been ruled out. He I I have no clue what's going on. It doesn't sound like he's anywhere near playing. Phillip: So most importantly, I love this game. This is one of my favorite picks of the week. Detroit, all the way. We all have Detroit, which is Ken: Yeah, Detroit's gonna be one of my picks of the week as well. phil sucks: I thought you were skipping down, you were gonna be best one of the week. Phillip: I was about to say, yes, a second favorite is the Jets play football, just pick the other team. The whatever it is going on. We're for a couple weeks they looked fun, but we're back here. phil sucks: Yeah. I well, I mean, I don't Ken: They're at home. They beat the Browns when they were at home. Phillip: the Browns are a football team, huh? I didn't know that one. phil sucks: They are a they're a f they're a g they're a f they play they play football. Ken: You shouldn't have to go from playing the Minnesota defense to playing the Jets defense. It's phil sucks: Mm-hmm. Ken: like James Cook is going to run for like four fifty yard rushes. Josh Allen's just I I mean, whatever he wants to do. He I mean he might not even run the ball because he just won't have to. phil sucks: This gay, the this, this, this guy, I just it just makes me mad to watch the one thing of back to Miami, like, they actually look like they're well coached and they play hard and whatnot. Like, the Jets don't like looks completely dysfunctional. The Browns last week, outside of Shadur, Chuck, and Duck on a couple looked completely dysfunctional on offense. Like, the Chargers. Completely dysfunctional on offense and defense. Whatever Joey Fignano was last week for the Baltimore Ravens, that stuff makes me so mad. The problem is Aaron Glenn does this every single week. The Chargers do this every single week. And you're like, how are you guys not fired? you should change it up and see what you got on the bench. Figure out your coaching bench. Because you

guys aren't it. Aaron Glenn makes me so mad. Ken: Didn't they just fire his whole staff, in the off season? phil sucks: yeah, they kinda they he he he no, and he chose Frank Reich. Phil, when was the last time Frank Reich was relevant? Four years ago? Yeah. All right. Phillip: Rank Reich was a great coordinator for the Super Bowl winning Nick Foles. phil sucks: Yeah, that's what I was about to say. The nineteen Ken: Heck yeah. phil sucks: ninety seven Jabalomanese, Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: yeah, those guys were great. Frank Reich was the OC then. The last time he was a coordinator was when he was in Carolina and he benched Bryce Young and went sent him back a year basically. And then they brought in Andy Dalton. Phillip: Hey. Hey, Ken: Hey, that benching, he Phillip: Andy Dalton. Ken: needed that. He needed that benching. phil sucks: Ha ha ha Phillip: Anyways, I thought their offense has looked fine ish, right? She knows been alright. phil sucks: Except for the fact that they forget Garrett Wilson's on their team. Yeah, other than that. Phillip: I was about to say, they have so many weapons. if they if they Ken: it pisses me off so much, man. Phillip: if they actually function and could run, be in competitive games. phil sucks: Grant Yudinsky is gonna go there, you know that, right? Phillip: Who? phil sucks: You guys have any idea who Grant Yudinsky is? You guys don't pay come on. Grant Yudinsky. Ken: We're Browns fans. Of course we know these guys that the these young guys that should have been the Browns head coach. Yeah. phil sucks: Should have been our coach. He's the he's the offensive coordinator under Liam Cohen right now. That's who's going to be your Jets quarterback. Ken: Mm hmm. And he's twenty four years old or something like that. He just bought phil sucks: Yeah. He's in his twenties. Ken: his first beer. Yeah. phil sucks: Basically, yeah. I think he's thirty one. Ken: I I think it's yeah, I thought it's yeah, thirty two or something. Whatever. phil sucks: Okay, he's twenty nine. Fine. Even better. So he's gonna be your Jets quarter he's gonna be your Jets head coach next year. Ken: Hehehe Phillip: That's gonna be great. As they get a new quarterback, they have all those weapons. I would love it. phil sucks: Drew Mestimaker, yeah, a thousand percent. Let it rip, baby. Phillip: Anyways, back to the to the game we're actually gonna watch. Yeah, Buffalo's really good at football, and Josh Allen might put up a hundred fantasy points in this game. phil sucks: I don't think I don't think their defense is very good, but they just traded for Amani Hooker though. Phillip: They sure did. Ken: Yeah, they shut down Carson Wentz pretty good, man. That was a horrible phil sucks: Pfft. Ken: game. That was horrible to watch. phil sucks: Joe Fignano or Carson Wentz put him in a cage Phillip: I was excited that Carson Wentz was gonna play. Hmm? phil sucks: match. Phillip: Dude. Ken: actually looking forward to Carson once too. I more than Kyler, but man. Phillip: They were there were so many open players and then he just threw it at the Bills. he forgot Ken: Yeah. Phillip: what color he was wearing. It was terrible. Ken: It was horrible. phil sucks: They had there was one that guy got it was almost it was three drives in a row in the second half. It was pick pick and then he hit a guy in the face mask and it should Phillip: Shah. phil sucks: have been a third pick Ken: Yeah. Yeah. phil sucks: in a row. And the guy was like Phillip: Dude, it's so funny. There was someone who did a good clip on that. He's like, it's so good when your offensive coordinator gives you three options available. There's one, two, three, and then you just set and throw, and all he does phil sucks: Mm-hmm. Phillip: is he throws it to the to Bill's defender. Three guys wide open. phil sucks: Yeah. Pick A, B, or C. D got it. Phillip: Justin Jefferson didn't even get to have a good game with like, you know, just being targeted a whole bunch. He wasn't. anyways. Ken: Then Phillip: All right, so go ahead. Ken: Nothing. We'll we'll get to Minnesota, I guess. But good times ahead for Justin Jefferson. Phillip: Yeah. phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: so are we agreeing Buffalo and Detroit are two of our favorites this week? Ken: Yep. phil sucks: What are we Phillip: All right. phil sucks: doing with Carolina and New Orleans? Guys, I was Ken: Man, look at us. Just Phillip: Dude, New Orleans. phil sucks: literally about to be like. Ken: You can pick New Orleans if you want. phil sucks: I may have called it a little I may have called it a little early on the Carolina Super Bowl after the first couple of weeks. They've kinda dropped the ball. Ken: They're tied for first in their division. Everyone has three wins there. phil sucks: Their division is the worst division in football. man. Phillip: I think right right now they would host the Bears, right? And I love that everyone's like the Bears are the best team Ken: That'd be a tough one. Phillip: in Bears are the best team in the NFL. Why do they have to go on the road? Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: However however, they the Carolina Panthers hosted the Rams last year and nearly took Ken: Ooh, the Cavs beat the Knicks. Go Cavs beat the Knicks. Phillip: but anyways, yeah. That that that one Cavs being the Knicks hurt my wallet. Back to the real things. Connor, you can talk about Carolina. New Orleans shouldn't be favored, period. phil sucks: I I'm fascinated that they're favored, but I mean don't know. I secretly have I secretly think like here's I'm I'm I'm I'm fading from Bryce a little here on this one. He he actually had a good game last week, but the last two before that were awful. Like they were so bad. And I'm like, man, I I really counted on you, man. And now I'm kinda like shifting over to like Tyler Shuck and I'm this guy's scrappy, you know? I like this guy. Ken: He he was doing good at the beginning phil sucks: And John Ruth. Ken: of the year. He's really kinda fallen off a bit. He

still gets Olave of the ball though. phil sucks: He fell off too. Now he's kinda like he started off really hot. He's kinda fallen off. Now he's kinda back, And here's the other thing about Shuck. I remember thinking, this guy's 26 years old as a rookie. What are we doing? And now I'm like, man, the bar for you was low, and you exceeded that bar. I don't know if the rest of the universe is still up here for that bar like a normal person, but man, you beat the really low expectations. You might be in a little bit higher than low expectations, but man, at least you beat the first hurdle. you might be okay. You're gonna be in there for a little while. Ken: When Jordan Tyson gets up to speed, I mean that offense also not phil sucks: Honestly. Ken: not having a running game period is just awful. phil sucks: I'm betting on that, honestly. it's funny 'cause we all pick Carolina, but it's funny, I'm almost kinda like this division sucks so bad. Shuck could figure it out with the amount of weapons that he has, 'cause it's the best arsenal probably in that division across the board, at least from a wide receiver's perspective. Phillip: Hundred percent agree. I think Tyson had like fifteen routes run and four targets, five targets, something like that. Like it's actually phil sucks: He was my number one wide receiver off the board coming out of college. The guy is just unfortunately zapped by the substation even before he got to college. Phillip: Yeah. phil sucks: So Ken: The scary part is it's it's not like I was looking at his injury history, it's all hamstrings. It like like yeah, which is awful. I don't I don't about that one. Yeah. phil sucks: Yes, all hamstrings. He broke his collarbone once, but the rest of them were hamstrings. Phillip: Yeah. Ken: but yeah, it it's just n New Orleans doesn't deserve to be a favorite period. They I mean phil sucks: Yeah. Ken: almost lost a game to the Cleveland Browns with Shador Sanders. Phillip: To the Shador Browns. phil sucks: Hey man, Chase Young though. Chase Young. Chase Young's awesome. Yeah. Ken: Chase Chase Young looks good. Olave looks good. I still yeah, I still love Kamara. He's old as dirt. But no, they I the Carolina team is way better. That's all I got. I think Chu between Chuba, Tet, Jalen Coker. I love seeing Darren Waller like every once in a while, you know, come out of his cave. But phil sucks: Well the problem is that they're nuking my boy Jalen Coker. Undrafted free agent. The Cokeheads. Phillip: After he cooked for three weeks? phil sucks: Yes. I was like, this is this was my all time like by low. He's the next puka. I love it. I picked him up off waivers. I'm I love this guy. And then Bryce Young has just poo pooed the bed for the last like three weeks. Phillip: Hey, good bounce back game. New Orleans defense isn't good. They gave up 21 to the Browns, and they had like Browns are like 14 points in the fourth quarter, 10 points in the fourth quarter. Like a capable offense is gonna show up. anyways, that's why we all have that. Next game. Ken I see Buffalo, but it's Houston at Cleveland. Buffalo. There. Alright, copy paste. phil sucks: Ken, yes. Houston, Cleveland, you pick Buffalo. I love it. I love it. I love it. Ken: Which one? wait, I picked it. Wait. There you go. I I I had it there, I didn't click off it, my bad. Yeah. phil sucks: I love it. Phillip: Anyways, we all have Houston minus four and a half, so Brown's gravy train, huh? That's over. No one no one actually bought that they were good when they were five and two. I did not. Don't don't even. I have been phil sucks: Can't believe you guys actually believed that. nobody Yes you did. Ken: What do you mean? What are you talking about? Anthony's not here. Anthony's not here. phil sucks: I wanna see your group chat right now after week two. I wanna see it. Phillip: If you want to see the I was dude. Everyone Ken: no no. There's not a lot of optimism. No, there isn't. Phillip: was mad because Shador wasn't playing. I'm just kidding. Ken: No, I don't a after the phil sucks: Dude did all right, Ken: first week. phil sucks: just tell me this right now. Did anybody after that game I didn't watch all of it 'cause it was red zone and just kept flashing. Did anybody actually think Shadur played well? Phillip: No. phil sucks: If anybody did, kick them out of your group chat. Ken: Monk Munkin said he did all right. His head coach. phil sucks: He threw hit what, three Phillip: That the the c phil sucks: long passes that covered ninety percent of his yards? Phillip: Hi his mom said his mom said he did a good job. Ken: Better than not throwing those three. phil sucks: okay. Like, all right. Ken: No, it it it was a pretty bad showing against the worst defense in the league. phil sucks: I watch him just do his reads and he's not doing his reads like at all. I watch him same thing. He looked like Joe Fignano or friggin even better, he looked like what's the dude for Atlanta that they chewed out at the first two the first game of the season. Rush. Cooper rush. He looked like Cooper Rush, Ken: All phil sucks: man. Ken: right. Right now, who's a better quarterback? Shador Sanders or Philip Rivers? Phillip: God damn it, Captain. Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: You mean NC state head coach Phillip Rivers? Did you guys see that? Ken: That's the one. Phillip: You you mean the guy who almost beat the Super Bowl champions in week seventeen Ken: Ha ha ha Phillip: eighteen last year? phil sucks: You mean the guy who basically could probably come back, be a Ken: It's like we kick fifteen. phil sucks: be a quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts and face his son next year, who's draft eligible? Yeah. Ken: ha ha. Phillip: Anyways, CJ Stroud apparently all he needs to do is have Marvin Harrison on the team and he turns back into like the best quarterback in the NFL NCAA tournament. phil sucks: This is wild to watch. Ken: Dude, wait, while we're on, did you see that Sean Payton called up Drew Brees to play after well

Bo Nix's injury last year? And he was actually trying, and then he goes, wait, I threw like 20 passes and my arm went numb. And so I can't. It's like I physically can't phil sucks: I didn't see that. Ken: throw it anymore. Well Phillip: Yeah. phil sucks: I'm curious to know, when you for example, Cousins hasn't been like in the KOC offense in two years. So, like, is he gonna be okay? Like, does he just walk in and be like, hey, is it still the same thing? And they're like, Yeah, and he's like, Yeah, I remember everything. I've also Phillip: No. phil sucks: wondered why you can't go back to them and be like, Hey, their entire offense, hey defensive coordinator for my new team, their entire offense is this. Let's sit down and I'll write it down for you. I don't understand why people people don't do that. Phillip: I'm pretty sure they do. phil sucks: So so so is that why like the only times Minnesota's lost, like Kirk Cousins called their coach and was like, Hey, they're gonna do this and the other ones they didn't Phillip: Maybe. I don't know. I'm not confident. Ken: Okay. A bunch of years ago, a bunch of years ago, Hugh Jackson, when he got fired from the Browns, got hired as a special assistant for the Bengals, and we played them like two weeks later. And I was like, there's no chance we win. That's a head coach. He knows the team inside and out. Like he he should absolutely know how to stop the and we crushed him. And like phil sucks: All right, fine. Whatever, dude. Phillip: Well, when you're when you're that bad of coach, it doesn't count. Ken: At that point I was like, nothing makes sense. I don't get it. Phillip: Did you see phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: that Aaron Glenn has a worse record as a head coach than Hugh Jackson? Ken: The guy went like one in thirty one. Phillip: Yeah. Because Hugh Jackson had like one good year with the Raiders where he won like seven games. phil sucks: Who else? There was somebody else that was still a head coach that was really bad. Ken: That's awesome here. phil sucks: There's somebody else there was somebody else that was like is on the hot seat. I can't remember who it is. it was like they're like s I I gotta go back and think about it. There was somebody that recently that was like that, where you're like, how does this guy still have a head coaching job? Might have been Robert Salah Ken: As Robert Solo. Yeah, I 'cause I heard I heard that too, yeah. phil sucks: it's Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore's like six and twenty-one in three years. So yeah. But you're like, man, this guy's got Phillip: Yeah, that not his fault. phil sucks: offense, and you're like, does he? Phillip: I Ken: Yeah. Phillip: love Kellen Moore. He deserves his job. Houston, do you guys want to talk about Stroud and how their offense actually looks good now? Their receiving core come next year when Jaden Higgins comes back is actually surprisingly deep. I love everything about it. phil sucks: I don't wanna talk about it because Marvin Harrison Junior sucks and I'm sad. Phillip: Hey, Tank Dell actually came back and is playing real football at a pretty good level. He had like seven he had like Ken: He got to twenty miles an hour, which is crazy, but he can only Phillip: He had a hundred he had a hundred yards, a touchdown, and nine targets. It was absurd. I know it garbage time. Hey. Ken: He can run like that. He phil sucks: He's super fast. Ken: can only run that way. Straight. There's no cutting. phil sucks: Yeah, Phillip: One of his legs he's got he's got Zoolander, he one of his legs still works. phil sucks: Dude, I'm still telling you, man, I I just this just feels like is this a mirage? is CJ Stroud like that good? Ken: Which one? CJ Stroud? phil sucks: Is he that good? And you're like, maybe. Ken: The Browns defense has been good at home and also what's really killed us is we couldn't we can't stop any running game whatsoever. Like the Steelers ran for is like over I think it was I think Jalen Warren was over ten yards a carry on us. Audric Audric estimate looked like an NFL player against phil sucks: That's okay. Woody That's like dude, Ken: us. phil sucks: Houston doesn't even have a run de they don't even have a running game. Ken: They don't. And I my point is it's either this is just gonna be like an exposure game of hey, Houston's even we've been talking about it all year. recently last couple of games, they've actually looked pretty decent. And now they're going to absolutely destroy a Cleveland Browns offense that has been smoke and mirrors all year. Phillip: You ever need a tune up game? This is it. Ken: This is absolutely this is like twenty seven to three and we and we get like six first downs in the whole game. phil sucks: S Deshaun Tou Touchy is back though. Phillip: Yeah. Yeah, that's Ken: That's where we got the three instead of zero. phil sucks: Mm-hmm. Phillip: I don't even know if it matters that much. Anyways, we got next up Tennessee Jacksonville at Tennessee. And guys, this one was hard for me, and I admit I got Tennessee mostly because I looked at how many favorites I picked and I needed to flip a couple and they have a lot of points. phil sucks: I thought you were gonna say, it's gonna be because ten was a big number. I'm like, the f starters haven't even played for Jacksonville in like three weeks in the fourth quarter. Phillip: They they gotta keep him fresh. No, that literally the logic is Jacksonville phil sucks: They just got they just split like all Phillip: just has letdown games. Like against their phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: division. I don't know what it is. Like last year was it Davis Mills came back and put up 17 points on him to beat him last year. Tennessee, I think, took him. That the two years ago they they they needed to beat Indianapolis to make the playoffs and they got blown out. phil sucks: their their GM Gladstone plays fantasy football dynasty version with his real life team. Hey, Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: all these picks in the future,

get rid of them. I want these guys. Jordan Davis, six firsts. Jesse Bates, seven firsts. Get rid of them. Ken: It's called a win it's called a championship window and we're in it. Yeah. phil sucks: Yeah. He learned it from the Rams. That's where he came from. Ken: Yeah. I and Tennessee's been in games because Tony Pollard's looked like five years ago Tony Pollard out there. And I I just don't think they'll be able to run period on Jacksonville. J phil sucks: Jacksonville hasn't had a seventy five yard rusher in fifty games or something stupid. Ken: I no, I think Justice Hill got 75 on him because he had he had phil sucks: that's right, 'cause of the one long run. Ken: a 64 yard run in junk time. There's something like that. Yeah. phil sucks: In garbage time. Ken: But no, I I the only thing is they have all these new pieces and it's like okay when you integrate them if there's some type of messiness and I'm like, I don't care. Cam Ward's not gonna beat them. So phil sucks: Yeah, th it they were like, Yeah, the guy who snapped it it was the it was the Ravens running back. It was Derrick Henry. No, Justice Hill. Ken: No. But Phillip: So you guys are just like Jacksonville like do you guys think with Ken: This offense is clicking and Tennessee well crap, what did what did Tennessee do last phil sucks: I Tennessee is bad, dude. Ken: week? Did they Are they a bye week? man. Phillip: Do you think they're the they're a bi week? They're well rested. Yeah. phil sucks: Yeah. Ken: They they should I should definitely pick them. I'm not. Phillip: So you gu do you guys think Jacksonville's the best team in the NFL? Playing the best football right now. Right? They just had two. Ken: I think Jacksonville legitimately is the best regular season team. Phillip: Yeah, a hundred percent. I agree with that. phil sucks: I just they they're not playing anybody to know like their schedule is incredibly easy. Incredibly easy. Phillip: it's it it's great. They get this and they got the Giants next week and then the Titans again. I picked phil sucks: Titans again. That's what I'm saying. Phillip: up the Jags on their bye week for defense because I saw the stretch coming and it was just perfect. phil sucks: Yeah, same here. Same here. Phillip: all right, next up, Kansas City at Atlanta. This is why is Atlanta so closely rated to all these teams? They're only three and a half point favorites at home. Like, I don't think Atlanta's very good. Ken: Okay, all right. Sorry, no, no, no. You gotta go back a second. Wait up. Wait, wait up. So Jack phil sucks: And Kansas City just got the best free agent wide receiver that they traded with Josh Downs. Phillip: Wait Cad needs to interrupt us. Ken: Yeah. Jacksonville had that awful that crazy, huge second half comeback from the Broncos and they they lost that game, but they completely smoked the Patriots, they beat the Bengals, and then they beat an Eagles team before Jalen Hurts went out. Like that's not a horrible like schedule. And they I mean they completely smoked the Patriots thirty five to six. Phillip: They barely beat the Eagles though. Right? That was the kickoff return? Ken: In London, yeah, in London with a Jalen Hurts literally on his last leg, desperate fighting for every inch of his life. phil sucks: Fighting for his life. I but I their but the middle of their schedule, like their next like five games is like so ridiculous. Phillip: It's a joke. Until they play Houston again or something, it doesn't like they're gonna g win fifteen, sixteen games or fourteen, whatever. I don't know how many they already have losses they already have. phil sucks: Liam Ozempek Cohen, yeah. Liam GLP one cohen. Ken: Dude, some people who should not be on those, if you're a little bit overweight and you just take them, you look awful. Dude, it it's it's bad. Yeah. phil sucks: Yeah, you've seen the before and after. You have to have. I know you have. He looks like like his face is just gaunt. it's bad. Ken: Mm. Unlike you guys, I won't say who I work with, Phillip: They got they got plastic surgeons for that. Ken: but you know peop I've noticed it. That's pretty bad. Phillip: Yeah, you can definitely tell that when you work with people and they phil sucks: There are people there are people like you work with that wait, so there are people that you know like personally that are on G O P one? Ken: Me? I'm a phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: Yes. Ken: I'm a doctor. phil sucks: No, I not not your patients, you moron. I'm talking about are Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: there people that you like interact with that you're like, Yeah, you definitely were on. Ken: I've d like being a doctor, people come up and tell me their medical stuff all the time, thinking I want to hear it. So yes. my phil sucks: No, I I understand that I'm talking about your friends, hey Ken: god, do you think? my god, next next game. Phillip: I I know I phil sucks: No, I get people I I I I get like I I get it like Phillip: I know a couple people on GLP ones. Ken: They're not myths. Like, do you go to the gym and know people who take testosterone? phil sucks: No, though I though I get it, like, but like people like we say, you're a doctor and everyone's like, Cool, can you fix this? Look at my elbow. And Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: then I get that, but I'm saying like there are other people that like don't want to say they're on G O B one and you're like, Yeah, I can definitely tell I'm a doctor. They don't mention it to you, but you're like, dude, you just lost 30 pounds. Ken: And they probably would just mention it anyways, 'cause that's what people do. phil sucks: Yeah, probably. Phillip: What what's the diet? What's the secret to your weight loss? I've been eating nothing. Ken: Medications. phil sucks: cheating? Yeah, cheating. Ken: Mm-hmm. Phillip: anyways. Kansas City at Atlanta. Do you guys have can sucking the life out of other people so that he can Ken: Speaking of cheating, Pat Mahomes, man. He should be hurt. Phillip: play? Do

you guys so I thought Josh Downs to the Chiefs was like not a great deal. Like I feel like he's duplicating skill sets they already have. phil sucks: Okay. Ken: Yes, I I thought that it said cool man, Xavier Worthy didn't work. had all of Phillip: Yeah, Rasheed Rice, kinda similar. he's in between. phil sucks: Hold on a second. Phillip: You gotta poop. Ken: I I do think that Josh Downs is a good receiver, but I I don't think he moves anything for him. I really wanted Brian Thomas. Phillip: I would have loved Josh Downs and San Fran over Keenan Allen. Ken: I don't get the Keenan Allen thing in in San Fran. I I think he's gonna hang out there with like I know Christian Kirk's already back on IR, but like it's like the what Demarcus Robinson's the Christian Kirks, the the Jordan Watkins, just all these like, hey, I'm gonna be a usable receiver. Like I will be out there until I get hurt. phil sucks: fan of it because it's redundant skill set like you guys said, but he's a good wide receiver. Phillip: Do you think he has the chance to be their deep threat? Because that's what they're missing since Taekwond Thornton's leg fell off. phil sucks: To do heat to be what? Phillip: They're deep threat, the actual guy who runs forty yards and g and gets separation. That's cause that's what they need. Xavier Worthy, apparently fast guy in the NFL, can't do it. phil sucks: No. No, because he's not a four two guy or four I And Rasheed Rice, who's bankrupt, did you know that? Did you guys know that? Phillip: Yeah, he he just declared bankruptcy. Four point three million in debt. phil sucks: I it just becomes a bunch of there's no difference Ken: I don't think it's a big deal. phil sucks: to their offense now. You don't go, that makes a difference. Because all they're doing is hey, Patrick Mahomes, handoff, hand off, handoff, handoff, RPO hitch, Travis Kelsey, RPO hitch, Racy Rice, bubble screen, Ray C Rice. That's not gonna change. It's gonna be RPO, Josh Downs. No difference. They should have gotten Brian Thomas, is what they should have done. Phillip: Yeah, I I agree. I think he would be just someone physically different than what is in their wide receiver room. Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: And then they and then the Jags said, No, Brian Thomas has Phillip: but I do think phil sucks: eighteen whole catches on the year. We're keeping him. Phillip: Jesse Bates not being in Atlanta, I think, will be a problem in this game. Like you you lose your safety, you lose the quarterback, kind of on that back end, and I think miscommunication, blown coverage gonna happen once or twice. So I I just think to two way too too few of points. Huh? Dude, Travis phil sucks: To who? Blown coverage to who? Josh Downs who's running around in front of them? Phillip: Kelsey has like three plays for 30 yards this year. phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: Man's man's been showing that the the the you know, Taylor Swift speed Ken: Was it? Phillip: out there. phil sucks: Look at this guy. Ken Phillip: I know. phil sucks: says Ken says Miami. He says the fighting Kyle McCords. Ken: All they have done Phillip: So like Ken: all year is keep games close. phil sucks: Yeah, I like them. They're scrappy. But they also just lost the one guy that Ken: They're scrappy and Indianapolis quit. phil sucks: okay, but Malik Willis can at least scramble around in the backfield. Their line is like the worst ranked line in the entire National Football League. Kyle McCord is gonna go back there. Ken: Who Indi Indianapolis has nobody else. They they got rid of their whole defense pr besides Sauce Gardner. They got rid of phil sucks: This is gonna be an awesome game to like to hate watch this week. Ken: No, it's gonna be a horrible game. And I'm not gonna watch it. And I'm gonna take the team that didn't trade away half of their team and then like the phil sucks: just take the one that has ninety million dollars of dead cap space on a roster right now. Ken: That's been consistent for most of the year besides their quarterback. Phillip: Yeah. Ken: And their quarter versus the guy who's coming off of an Achilles and it's just is not looking right. Throwing to who? Cause they got first off, all of their wide receivers who didn't get hurt got traded. phil sucks: Division two track star Ashton Doolin. Yeah. Ken: I actually thought about picking up Ashen Duelin. That's how bad it is there. phil sucks: He's he was a division two national champ hurdler. Yeah. Phillip: Dude, I wanted LeCron look Lacron Twedwell. after his blow up game against the Chiefs where he had five catches for eighty yards and hasn't done anything since. That guy's due. phil sucks: You know what's interesting though is I traded Ken: I have Tyler Warren and I'm like, he has to get twelve targets. He has to get fourteen targets, he has to get eighteen targets. phil sucks: What's yeah. What sucks is I traded Josh well, sucks for the other guys. I traded Josh Downs and Jalen Waddle for Chuba Hubbard week three. I was like I'm like, damn, that guy probably hates me. He does he does update, he does hate me. He does hate me. Phillip: I have Jalen Ken: Yeah. Phillip: Waddle and what he had a twenty three yard catch and then like a twenty yard DPI 'cause he got laid out in the first phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: quarter against the Panthers. And I'm like, all right, there goes the big game, the resurgence, maybe. But phil sucks: Yeah, I definitely sold him after week two. I sold Waddle after Phillip: Good move. phil sucks: week two, for sure. and I was like, Yeah, time to get rid of this Sean Payton 'cause Sean Payton clearly will never focus on a wide receiver ever again. one single one. Ken: I know it's an eight Phillip: Anyways. Ken: an eighteen league, but this week I got rid of O'Marian Hampton, Jalen Waddell, and Jalen Coke. Because you just have to at this point. phil sucks: I hate you. I hate you. I'm Phillip: I'm picking up Jalen Coker phil sucks: so s Phillip: and I'm winning a championship in that

league. phil sucks: Omari and Hampton on in my Ken: Can have phil sucks: one of my dynasties is just gonna sit on that taxi squad for like ever. Phillip: Ha ha ha. phil sucks: Never boom again. Ken: I hate to say, Kamani Vidal is just a better runner than him. phil sucks: Can't sell Can't sell him for anything because everyone's gonna be like, cool. Ken: No. phil sucks: How about a twenty seven seventh? we don't even have that Phillip: Yeah. phil sucks: many picks in our rookie draft. Doesn't matter. Phillip: I'll give you the guy I'm about to cut. Ken: Have you heard of Mr. Irrelevant? You can have Mr. Irrelevant. phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: all right, let real football. Like now we get to talk about something that matters, right? Minnesota at Green Bay, Kirk Cousins debut against the Packers. Packers at home. Why d I did did I put Minnesota? I did. I think Ken: You did. Don't don't change it, Phil. Don't change it. I only phil sucks: I I just I just think Ken: picked Green Bay because I had to pick something different than you. phil sucks: This is the only thing that bothers me is first game that this is the first time Minnesota's playing Green Bay, right, this year. I don't Ken: Yeah, Green Phillip: Yeah. Ken: Bay's defense is cooking and they Phillip: No, then they pl they played week one or two and I thought Ken: played week one and Minnesota had the crazy comeback. Phillip: Yeah. The Packers were up twenty to nothing and they started phil sucks: Yeah, but I I just Phillip: running the ball and it didn't work. phil sucks: I just don't I just don't like I just don't know if I believe in Jordan Love yet. the guy Chuck and Duck, Chuck and Duck, Chuck and Duck. I don't know. Ken: Kirk Cousins got Phillip: I think Ken: traded Tuesday. phil sucks: Kirk Cousins has a steel trap up here. He remembers all of KOC's offense. Ken: You're right, Phillip: Kirk Cousins. Ken: cause his timing his timing with these guys that he hasn't been with in years and on a good Achilles. phil sucks: Who's different? Jordan Addison and Jordan Addison and and and Johnson Jefferson are the same people and TJ Hawkinson are the same people. Ken: He's years older and coming Phillip: I wanna be very clear. Ken: off an Achilles. In betwe phil sucks: Doesn't matter. Phillip: Jordan or Justin Jefferson Ken: in between. you're right. It doesn't? No? You sure? phil sucks: No. Daniel Jones came back from Phillip: is so good. phil sucks: one. Phillip: Justin Jefferson's gonna get 30 targets, and he's gonna catch 20 of them for maybe a hundred yards. Alright, Ken? You don't need good practice to get that out of the way. but no, I think the phil sucks: He's been working with Brock Bowers, okay? Geez. Phillip: the the flip in week one, right, was that Ken: The same thing. Phillip: That that's when Brian Flores was just like, we played normal defense for the first half. And he then he said, F it, we are going to blitz nonstop. And since then that's why they're they've been successful. phil sucks: Yeah, and then he said, Hey, that's stupid. I'm going I've got Carson Wentz and Kylo Murray. We're just gonna blitz everything. Phillip: Yes. So I think like h he found his success because of Jordan Love sucking against him. so that's I think that's what my logic was when I picked this game. but I don't know. phil sucks: I just flat out was like, I don't know if I trust Jordan Love yet. Full disclosure, if he beats him, I will take it all back. And Matthew Golden is a good res good wide receiver all of a sudden. And Christian Watson, Christian hamstrings is all of a sudden a good wide receiver. Phillip: Matthew Golden, if he had remotely good hands, would probably have twenty touchdowns on the year. Ken: You know, he makes some like really good catch. He had like the one behind him, like fingertip like touchdown catch. But then he dropped so many. phil sucks: He doesn't he didn't even produce in college. He is such he's such an outlier. He was not even good in college. This is why it's so crazy. Ken: Yeah. And you haven't gone back to me on that trade yet. phil sucks: yeah. Ken: Man, Christian Watson's tempting. My worry is he's like he's also injury prone as well. phil sucks: My worry is he's Christian hamstrings, so I'm just a little concerned with that. And Jordan Love just throwing the ball up in the air. Ken: It looks awesome. phil sucks: For a pill to catch it. Phillip: Anyways, can I Blake Coram is gonna be awesome. Speaking of Blake Coram being awesome. phil sucks: I would be okay with it. Also, can Phil, every t you got this thing going on with like every time I talk, like I go to the big screen, but then when you talk it like flips over and it it just it's it's making me go in circles here. Phillip: Do do do you wanna Okay, so w we'll fix it. Ken: Well, I I pinned I pinned Phil as the big screen, so I'm good. Phillip: You guys you guys can do it however you want. Look, that was nice. People people told me they liked that when when we go live. Yeah. phil sucks: Okay. Who's the Ken: Really? It's so confusing. phil sucks: people? Two? Phillip: Yes. We gotta give gotta give the fan what they want. Ken: Noah might still be here, guys. Phillip: Noah is gone. We talked for too long. We phil sucks: mean is gone? Phillip: we we we didn't shut up. Guys, we're at an hour and ten. We've this is gone on for phil sucks: Yeah, hurry up. Let's do all right, fast break. We got six of these left. Let's go. Phillip: No, I love this one 'cause 'cause I wanna insult the Cardinals. The car Ken: No, this is a great one. This is great. Phillip: we have we have no receiving core versus even less of a receiving core. This is gonna be the worst watch of any game ever. Ken: Guys, this is this is the easiest pick. I don't know if there's an a possible number that Arizona could get that I would pick them. Carson I Phillip: Un hundred one hundred. Ken: mean, honestly, phil sucks: Ha ha. Ken: I don't know. Carson Beck phil sucks: Carson back, baby. Ken:

versus Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett. Like they look they put did you see the where they had a pass rush from the same side and it was just unstoppable? Phillip: They both got there because the guard and the center didn't know how to double team and move. Ken: They could double team both of them on the same side. But Miles Garrett coming off by the way, three sacks and three tackles for loss, like and the forest fumble look pretty good out there. but you have Carson Beck with nothing, with Tyler Algier, with a concuss bam knight coming back in. even Kendrick Bourne got hurt. Like, I mean was it? Phillip: Yeah. That was a couple of weeks ago. Michael Wilson phil sucks: Yeah, he's done for the year. I'm just saying, you can lump the Rams in Arizona and Seattle and Las Vegas together into one because it's both like rookie quarterbacks against like top five defenses. Like both of them, you're Ken: Yeah. Phillip: Yeah. phil sucks: just like, Yeah, I'm gonna pick the other non rookies. Phillip: I am so upset. Ken: And yeah, the only other thing on the other team is a good tight end. Yeah, phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: Do do you guys Ken: look at that. Phillip: think the Rams receivers are relevant at all? I need to know 'cause I got what's his name? Kanada phil sucks: No. I think what's this no, 'cause Ken: Montfield. phil sucks: I think 'cause fifty percent, I think it was fifty two percent of plays last week after Phillip: Mm-hmm. phil sucks: Puka was in and out, or Puka is historically when Puka or and or Devante is out, they do fifty two percent of twelve and thirteen. I would pick up Tyler Higbee and I pick up Terrence Ferguson and I would pick up Phillip: Terrence Ferguson Ken: Except for Phillip: if he did if he didn't Ken: dude. Phillip: hurt his leg. phil sucks: He is hurt again, yes. But I'm saying Tyler Higby Yeah, he he he Ken: Yeah. Mm-hmm. He I heard he's not close to coming back. He is another two weeks. phil sucks: hurt his hamstring on Thursday. Phillip: He was on IR and then popped his hammy for like three weeks. phil sucks: Was hoping to come back Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: this week and then Ken: And he did it during practice when she he opened his practice window, which means now he has twenty one days to get bet less than twenty one days to get better from a legitimate hamstring, which stinks. phil sucks: Or they have to put him or they just keep him on the roster and and just they they lose a roster spot. So they'll put him on the roster at the end of Ken: And they're gonna burn a roster spot. Yeah. Which is hard to do when you have five tight ends active. Yeah. phil sucks: Dude, I'm telling you, Higby, Kyle Parkinson, and Kobe whatever. Park Carp Ken: Colby Parkinson, yeah. phil sucks: yeah. Lane Kettering Phillip: All of them. phil sucks: and Kyle whatever were smoking that up Phillip: Yeah. phil sucks: all day long. Ken: Except for to know all of those guys besides Terrence Ferguson have sucked this year. They've all been phil sucks: True. Ken: bad. phil sucks: Yeah, but they they did pick up their future at Max Clare. Maybe they'll Max Clare around. Maybe we'll see. Phillip: Anyways, Rams and Seahawks. phil sucks: San Francisco and Dallas. Got it. Phillip: Wait a second. Wait a second. Ram phil sucks: Just talk. Phillip: Rams, are they a best pick of the week? 'Cause I kinda think they are. I think Rams by a billion. I'm with Ken. phil sucks: Yeah, I'm the one that nodded, so yeah, you're with me. Phillip: I I asked a question and both of you s were silent. Ken: Connor, are you with me on this one? For the ramps? Awesome. phil sucks: Yeah. Yeah. Phillip: All right. We got three. And then s what? Ken: All right. So put here, I'll I'll just I'll change this for you. Phillip: Seattle. Ken: There you go. phil sucks: Seattle only up seven is kinda interesting. I know why. It's 'cause Jalen Phillip: so I am so mad I have Brock Bowers and I phil sucks: Miller Drew Locke might start. That's why. Phillip: Yeah, that's I don't care. Ken: I heard Drew Lock starting. Yep. phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: They and I think he is good enough to light up the joke of a defense. But I have Brock Bowers in every league I could have because I loved him. And now it's over. For at least two weeks. phil sucks: That's over. It's Jover. Phillip: The the twenty point tight end officially dead. Breaks my heart. But anyways, yeah, Seattle JSN's gonna have a huge game. Rashid Shahid might catch a long touchdown. But Fernando Mendoza's just screwed. phil sucks: Cooper Cup? What do you mean? That's who you meant, right? Phillip: He is not gonna catch a long touchdown. No, he will catch he will catch a ten yard pass. Ken: Dude, phil sucks: Salad. Ken: I I was playing my my brother, who's doing a great job talking trash to me and getting in the mental hand games. but he started was it Ashton Jensi and my god, have you ever seen five catches for negative five yards? I've never seen someone have five catches and have negative yardage. It's insane. phil sucks: Dude, I'm I'm getting kinda I'm getting into the point where I'm like, okay, the quarterback that's Clint Kubiak, good. Whoever Clint Kubiak is coaching a quarterback, good. Pick them up. Whoever his running back is, he's going to absolutely Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: sabotage them with some benign backup like Zach Charbonnet or Mike Washington. Phillip: What was it? Zach Sherman, fourteen touchdowns last year, something ridiculous? Twelve maybe? Anyways. phil sucks: And then all of a sudden Kit and they're like, Yeah, Ken Walker, man, we gotta make sure the treads on the tires goes to Kansas City and has a billion touches and is fine. Ken: I look, but in every postgame KC interviewed, they're like, yeah, we gotta we gotta give him some rest. We we can't we can't run him too much. We can't and then like, but 26 carries. phil sucks: And then they're like, Yeah, but this guy's really good, so no. I'm just kidding. Phillip: Buccaneers just said the same thing

about Bucky Irving. We'll see if that one holds. phil sucks: Yeah, Bucky's the same way. Ken: It's By the way, I I was telling Phil about Tampe's not on here. But they have Kenneth Gainwell, of course, but they also have my, what their third string? Phillip: Sean Tucker. Ken: Sean Tucker, who's like every time he goes in, he's like, by the way, I get a 40-yard touchdown because I'm real explosive. And they're like, I know we're running the ball 50, 60 times a game, but why on earth would we give the ball to our third string? phil sucks: And then Todd Bowles is like, Man, that's Sean Tucker guy. He's really good. That's why we kept signing him. Probably not gonna Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: get any more touches though. Phillip: Alright, so next up we have San Fran at Dallas. Ken, what's going on? Why do you think Ken: I don't Phillip: San Fran isn't gonna put up a billion? Ken: I've been phil sucks: Substation. It's the substation. Phillip: Mm-hmm. Ken: what's one billion minus three? So okay, I'll be honest. This was I had way too many that were the same as Phil. And San Fran has had a lot of letdown. Their defense has not been very good. Dallas is They they've been amazing at punching the ball out. By the way. Yeah. And phil sucks: They turn them over like a whole lot. They're like peanut punch maniacs. Ken: they absolutely are. And my god, what's his name? It's my favorite defender in the whole league. Fred Warner. I just did a Phillip: Fred Warner? Do phil sucks: Fred Warner, probably. Ken: like a calcium bet for defensive player of the year because Phillip: Dude, he's going to break people's arms. He's like if I don't hit it, I'm gonna break your arm. It's coming hard. phil sucks: I would want I would wanna see him Ken: I I did hear something. phil sucks: I would kinda wanna see him break his hand and still play just so he could get a club. I just wanna see Ken: Get the cast? The c my god. Phillip: The club. phil sucks: him going like this. Ken: All right, Phil, Zach Babbel, my my friend. yeah, you just saw Phillip: Yeah. Ken: him. Yeah. But this this guy's he's always been the biggest guy around. And when he were we're playing, he broke it. He's the only freshman who broke his thumb and he got or pinky, he got a the club. And this dude was a foot taller and 80 pounds bigger than everybody. And he like during I practicing games, like he's a you know D end or tackle. And he wouldn't even fake it. He was just smashing people with phil sucks: That's what I'm saying. Ken: this club like in the head. Like I like at one point I remember like during a game, like they got the other like the offensive tackles just on the ground. And like he was like, I think I broke my club on his helmet. Phillip: Yeah. phil sucks: I just want to see Fred Warner do that. That's all I want to see. Ken: I heard something where this week where they're like that peanut punch, if you miss it and just punch some dude in the jaw or right in the the stern there, it's like it should probably be a fifteen yard penalty, just straight punching somebody and get phil sucks: Yeah, you ha s you see it all the time and it doesn't get called and because they hit them in the the chest or whatever and you're like Yeah, you could probably Ken: That sucks. phil sucks: play that off and just intentionally miss the ball and do it on purpose and hurt someone. Ken: Yeah. You yeah. Phillip: What if you miss and just punch him in the helmet? I feel like that's not great. phil sucks: See it happen Yeah, break your hand. Ken: Break break your hand, yeah. Yeah. But Phillip: you see the you see Jim Nance when he punched the ball when JJ Watt was holding and he had to wrap it up. Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: Broke his hand. Ken: But but the Fort Niners had two punch outs at the goal line and they had I think it was like three turnovers like in the red zone where like the Vegas Raiders like could have put up thirty five on them as well and and still lost. Phillip: Yeah, but the Raiders had Brock Bowers, man. phil sucks: Yeah. Kirk Cousins. Ken: But yeah, the Cowboys can't run the ball. I we've talked about this way too much. Phillip: Dude, I am so mad. I had Tyler Goodson. He's definitely better than Javante Williams. And it was gonna pay off in the end. This guy's out for a couple weeks now. Heartbreak. Ken: Yeah. But I think that the Dallas team like at home, th this is more the Ford Niners defense. I just don't think can hold them like they're gonna win, but I think it'll be just a little bit of a close game because they do that every once in a while. And I had to pick a game different than Phil. phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: Yeah, I I'll be happy with the close game. I have CD Lamb and Dak Prescott. I need some points. Ken: Mm. I mean, my god, fifty five for that over under they're like not even trying. There's like it's it's gonna be phil sucks: Ha ha ha Phillip: I don't know, Sam Fran, you Brandon Cooks, Keenan Allen, you're talking twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, that that's that's a killer receiving core. Ken: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Jor by the way, talking about injuries and just super recovery still I gotta say it every single week, but George Kittle, man. He he's get that man some smelling salt on me. God. phil sucks: On me, on me round of smelling salts for everyone. Phillip: Sunday night football, Pittsburgh at Cincinnati. So no one here thinks Aaron Rodgers and them are for for real. Ken: God. And coming off a bye. man. Phillip: I still I don't care. did the Bengals finally did it. They were just like, All right guys, I figured out who we pay the most money to. Let's use those guys nonstop. And it it's amazing. phil sucks: They did what the Packers are doing, except they should have done it three years ago. Phillip: Hundred percent. Ken: I just think the Pittsburgh offense is fraudulent. forty forty nine and a half. It's like Pittsburgh can't do that. And I mean J phil sucks: I'd be taking the under on this, no doubt.

there's it's it's the under for sure. I just don't Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: know if I just Ken: I'm gonna take the Pittsburgh under. phil sucks: s the Bengals, the Burrow Burrow just being streaky. he'll have entire games where he'll be like two picks, three picks here and there. In fact, I think he had three picks two weeks ago. Wasn't it? He had several. He had three picks against the Titans. And you're Ken: He had three picks. Three picks against Tennessee. Phillip: Yeah. He had three picks against the Titans. phil sucks: like, All right, that's weird. And then he threw five touchdowns and you're like, okay. Yeah. Phillip: I made a lot of money believing they would come back in the fourth quarter. phil sucks: Ha ha ha. Phillip: They they were down like two or three touchdowns or something ridiculous. And then every time they got the ball, phil sucks: Twenty to three or something. Phillip: yeah, it was like forty yard completion, twenty yard touchdown, forty yard completion, twenty yard touchdown. Just going back and forth to T and Chase. and then Gaseki stole one. Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: I cannot Phillip: so phil sucks: all right, let's just get skipped to the end because I want to get done with this because I know I want Phillip: This is the last one. Chargers Ken: Okay. phil sucks: to get to the end and I wanna roast you for picking the frickin' chargers. Are you kidding me? Phillip: So listen to this. I had a lot of favorites and I just wanted an underdog and who Jacoby Brissett to phil sucks: Go find a different one. Go find a different one to change. Pick in the chargers. Phillip: You gotta listen. One game they gotta win by accident. One game. phil sucks: No they don't. They're the Detroit Lions. They're the twenty Phillip: Mm. phil sucks: sixteen Detroit Lions. I honestly Phillip: I believe. phil sucks: watching them and it's also a hate watch because I they've ruined Justin Herbert and I just I want them to lose every game. I want them to lose every single game. And I want Mike McDaniels like this was a nerdy fun thing for a while. His nerdy little weird quirkiness at the podium when he was in Miami. That was fun for one season. Now everyone hates it and it's stupid. Ken: So wait, when when Tua gets the most passing yards in the league and Tyree Kill like flirts with most receiving yards of all time. Yeah. phil sucks: He's a Tyreek Hill merchant. Tyreek Hill merchant. Jalen Waddell merchant. He got himself an extension and everyone loved him. And then everyone's like, this guy's nerdy, but we like him. Now he speaks, and I'm like, dude, you said nothing. You just did word vomit for 10 minutes. What did you even say? Everybody here is like a mirage, man. We got Omarion Hampton. Like he's like a workhorse. But like Comani Vidal. it's like Every single buddy, every person that we have has different skills on this team. But they're all equal, but one of them's better sometimes, maybe now. Ken: Is this a fantasy thing? Are you just mad about O'Marrian Hampton? phil sucks: I'm mad about Mike McDaniels, okay? Hey, it's like one of 'em's really good, sometimes maybe never, but always. okay. Thanks, Mike. Phillip: He also has a crush on Keaton Mitchell. A massive, massive, ridiculous crush. phil sucks: There's a okay, but I have a huge crush on Malik Willis, but I also am not like, wow, this guy's a franchise quarterback. AR had a crush on him for a long time. This guy makes a lot of fantasy points. He also throws the ball to the other team a lot. Probably not gonna bet my franchise on him. Phillip: Yeah. Ken: I think this is a really nice tune up game for Jacoby Brissett. I think he'll be able to actually pass the ball downfield and they'll actually be running lanes open for Derrick Henry and phil sucks: Yeah, I actually thought the same thing. I was like, this actually is a very nice way in for Jacoby Purset. Phillip: So I thought the Chargers weren't that bad defensively. And again, this is a relative reference to like being terrible. phil sucks: Well, everyone said that they're they were a good passing defense, and then CJ Stroud had five hundred passing yards and five touchdowns and three and a half quarters. Phillip: that th that game doesn't count because that was a Tink Dell return. Ken: I think that the fact that the defense is just played for like ninety percent of each one of these games, like the offense can't stay on the field period. And you can only just do that for so long. phil sucks: That's right. They got their first touchdown in 24 quarters. Ken: Thirty eight drives. phil sucks: it was on the when the game was out of reach, and Quentin Johnston open handed caught a ball like this Ken: Ha ha. phil sucks: and then ran it into the end zone. Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: Open handed punt return, non fair catch, caught his chest and the ball showed up. Yeah. Phillip: the Browns last year, which is funny to me. Their defense is eighth in yards per drive around, but they're twentieth in points per drive, which means they just keep like they gave s the other team so many opportunities and Ken: Yeah. Phillip: they are so close to the red zone that they just the other team scores. yeah, and then and then the offense is bottom three in everything. So Ken: When you three and out and punt every or turn it over. phil sucks: Three and out, punt. Three and out punt. And then you got you got a guy who has a cannon for an arm and you're like, Hey, RPO, chop your feet, chop your feet, chop your feet. Throw it to the other team. Ken: Yeah. Phillip: So all right. That is everything. We we did a great job keeping this short and concise at an hour and a half. phil sucks: Yeah, I thought we were gonna do Ken: Yeah. phil sucks: that. It's funny because every time I say that, I didn't say it this time, and every time I say that, we go long anyways. I was testing us to see if I say it, it would it would like actually it's Ken: How'd it go? phil sucks: maybe it's reverse psychology, but I didn't say it this time and we just go long anyways. So Phillip: So so so we go long when there's three of us. When there's just two, we are super efficient and we don't argue and we don't talk about high school. phil sucks: And we don't talk about AI or the economy or high school or peptides. Phillip: Alan Iverson's a great guy. Alright. Hey. We had more viewers last week. It might phil sucks: Or jacked. Phillip: happen again this week too. I don't know. So Ken: I don't think phil sucks: Jacked. Ken: so. I think we did real bad last week. Phillip: Well in picks or th the recording itself. I Ken: Yeah, yeah. I notice you stopped counting both. Phillip: didn't update it because I kicked everyone's butt for sure. I was perfect on my pick these games and I hit like ten or eleven out of fifteen. So figure to give you guys a break. Ken: Sure you did. phil sucks: Dang, did we really go last time I was on week six, we all went seven for fourteen? Dang. That's not good. We just literally like, hey, just blindly pick them and you'll have the Ken: Ha ha ha. Phillip: So average. All right. Ken: Red up Phillip: Well, thanks people for listening. Sorry about the messy basement. I I know. Should probably clean up that projector someday. A that's not an alien. It's an octopus. Ken: The alien back there look cool. Or octopus? Octopus though. Phillip: We we vacuumed so essentially everything got thrown on the couch and carpet clean because it smelled like pissed on here when we were gone for after we were gone for a week 'cause my dog. phil sucks: Mm-hmm. Phillip: So yeah. Anyways. Hey, you guys, any last words? Like, subscribe, comment. Mike Shilly, and you were dead wrong about the Cowboys last week. He he he commented on us saying Cowboys are a lock. They're gonna cover it. Never been more confident in anything. And then he was right. Ken: I think we picked the Cowboys. Phillip: No, we had the we had the Colts. at least I did. You did as a as a pick of the week. Wow, that's so funny. You Ken: Nice. I think I picked Cowboys. well. That was bad. Whew. Phillip: two both got to be wrong. phil sucks: And the only reason that even happened was because they w did Yeah, the Phillip: They're the cowboys. phil sucks: Cowboys had what? some crazy long pass There was some crazy Ken: So they're due this week. They're due. phil sucks: long pass or something like after the Colts scored and everyone's like, Wow, Colts are gonna Phillip: Yep. phil sucks: cover and win. Phillip: And then CeeDee Lamb had a forty fifty yard catch phil sucks: Yeah. Phillip: and Javante Williams got the touchdown. phil sucks: Yep. Stupid. Phillip: All right. Well, thanks for listening. Let us know if you think high school defines who you are for the rest of your life like a Connor. phil sucks: Yeah, let us know if I'm right, which is probably a yes, and then Ken also concurs, so yes. Phillip: So does Basha. phil sucks: And Marcia.