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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Brewers over the Dodgers. They're up 2-0.
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Speaker 2: That Brewers bullpen has been historically great during the postseason. The Guardians come back, beat the Rays 7-3. They go up 1-0. The Guardians and Rays game two. They got the evening to themselves. Overtime last night, Bills-Rams. Bills now 4-1. The Rams, who people thought could go undefeated, They're now 2-3. You start to look at this game, first three quarters, we're like, okay, that fourth quarter was unbelievable. And then you had overtime as well. And I think you could look at Sean McVay and say, did he get too conservative at the wrong time? You had a situation there in overtime where you're going, okay, are they going to put the ball in Matthew Stafford's hands and then probably Puka Nakua? But third and five, 451 left in overtime, and the Rams decided to run it right up the middle and play for a 48-yard field goal. Here is Sean McVay lamenting that call after the loss.
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Speaker 3: I'm sick right now with myself and I'm so proud of that group. You know, this is the tough part of sports, but I'm proud of that team. I'm proud of the way that we battled and I'm sick that we came up short and I'll be regretting kicking that and not having a better call to be able to go for it on third down.
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Speaker 4: And that's on me.
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Speaker 3: It is.
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Speaker 2: And I was surprised because Puka Nakuba, I think had 24 targets. He had 17 catches. He was unstoppable. And you got a great offensive line. And I get it. You're going to run the ball. Maybe, you know, you're going to trust that line, which is one of the best in football. And you're going to get a couple extra yards there. I just thought, I want the ball in Stafford's hands. And I'm going to go to Puka Nakua. One way or another, I'm going to you. You catch it. You don't catch it. Interference, whatever it's going to be, I'm going to you. But they played conservative. They paid the price. Josh Allen was on full display. He did it all. And he talked about his running game after the win.
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Speaker 5: When it's there, it's there. I don't want to make a living in that.
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Speaker 6: I understand that. But I do know how much of a backbreaker that can be on a defense when you feel like you're in pretty good coverage. And the D-line felt like they were getting into good spots, but feeling like there was some room to maneuver in there and just finding ways to keep the chains moving there, especially late in the game.
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Speaker 2: He threw for 210 and a touchdown, rushed for 121 and a touchdown. He's the fourth player in NFL history with multiple games of at least 100 yards rushing, 200 yards passing. Lamar Jackson, Cam Newton, and Russell Wilson Jr., the third.
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Speaker 7: The other ones.
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Speaker 2: Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Bills and Rams combined for 35 points in the fourth quarter. That's tied for the most in any single quarter this season. The Bills and Texans did that 35-point second quarter of Buffalo's win. That was in Week 1. All right, poll question for Hour 1, Dylan. What are you thinking?
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Speaker 8: Well, who makes it to the Super Bowl? The Bills, Rams, both or neither. Now, last night could have been a Super Bowl preview.
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Speaker 7: I heard that. You did hear that?
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Speaker 2: Yes, I did hear that. I think you've got to look at bigger picture here. I'll answer the question there. But is Myles Garrett going to solve all this when he comes back? And I know Aaron Donald is just getting into playing shape. Pukunukuwa was great.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I just I looked at them and I go, is that defense is formidable as we think maybe the back end linebackers are considered their weakness, but you're in a really tough division. You could easily be one in four because if the Eagles didn't screw it up, blowing a fourth quarter lead, you'd have one win right now.
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Speaker 5: But it.
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Speaker 7: Feels like you.
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Speaker 2: Can't get too far behind in that division because then you're going to be on the road come playoff time. If you get there, because Seattle and San Francisco... They still appear to be the class of that division. Here's Super Bowl matchup odds. The best odds right now, according to DraftKings, the Bills versus the Niners, Chiefs versus the Niners, plus.
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Speaker 7: $ 1, 650. Then it's Jags Niners, plus $ 1, 800.
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Speaker 2: Patriots Niners, plus $ 2, 500. Bills-Rams, Super Bowl, maybe, plus 2,500. Chiefs-Rams, plus 2,500. Ravens and the Rams. Everybody loving the Niners right now, and rightfully so. But getting the Bills versus the Niners... or the Chiefs versus the Niners, according to DraftKings, are the best odds right now.
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Speaker 7: What other poll question? I do like that.
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Speaker 2: I would say if I was looking at who gets, I'd say Buffalo right now, but I'm not going to abandon ship on the Rams because let's see when they get healthy. Let's see what that defense looks like. But if you're not going to put pressure on Josh Allen, now granted, there's always the threat of him running.
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Speaker 7: I felt bad for James Cook.
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Speaker 2: I love James Cook, but he had two fumbles, but he had a big fumble there. And he was the happiest guy on the field when that field goal went through. But Buffalo, they're fun to watch. And that starts with Josh Allen. He's playing at a different level right now. There's a Cam Newton quality to what you're seeing out there.
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Speaker 7: Yes, Todd.
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Speaker 10: I guess I'm not appreciating the running talent of some of the top running NFL quarterbacks.
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Speaker 4: But I always figure, like, how are they not spying? And while I'm watching the game, don't you know Josh
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Allen's going to do that?
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Speaker 5: He's going to go run. They can't.
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Speaker 4: They didn't stop me.
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Speaker 7: Run for over 100 yards.
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Speaker 10: When you see a Mahomes or Lamar Jackson, there's nothing they could put in defensively as a spy to make.
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Speaker 4: Sure wherever he goes, you go.
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Speaker 7: They do spy. And they still can't stop. Yes.
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Speaker 2: That's how good he is. That's why he's the MVP. Now, sometimes you can't stop the MVP. You can only hope to continue.
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Speaker 5: There you go.
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Speaker 7: Yes, Paul.
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Speaker 11: They did talk about this pregame on NFL Network last night that Josh Allen wants you to spy him, to put someone on him that's just floating because that takes that guy out of coverage and how he can take advantage of that.
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Speaker 2: And Josh Allen also talked about this after the game where he wants to inflict pain on you.
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Speaker 7: Yes, I'm going to get hit. But you know what? You're going to get hit too. And he's one of the biggest guys on the field. Yes, Dylan.
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Speaker 8: A lot of times when he's running too. He's in the defensive backfield before you know it, and then it's a much smaller safety or a corner who's trying to line him up. And I'm like, I like Josh Allen in this battle.
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Speaker 2: Now, he's not an overwhelming favorite right now for the MVP, plus 250. Then it's Brock Purdy at plus 300. Then you go down to Mahomes, Trevor Lawrence, and Joe Burrow. Still can't get my guy, Kenneth Walker Jr.
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Speaker 7: III, in there.
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Speaker 2: I'm trying. Can't get him in there. Because even Mahomes would say, you know, the difference with our team this year is that guy right there. All right, what other poll questions do you have?
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Speaker 8: Well, we got some AFC, NFC, courtesy of Todd.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 8: So these are two separate ones. Best team in the AFC right now, Bills, Chiefs, Jaguars, or Ravens?
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Speaker 2: I mean, the Jags have quietly played some pretty good football. You know, Buffalo winning that game. They've also beaten the Texans. You know, coming off the loss against the Patriots. I might go Buffalo there just to do that, a big game, and beating a Rams team that's still trying to figure out who they are.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paulie?
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Speaker 11: It's really tough, though, because the Jaguars, when they play on national TV, it's 9 a.m. Eastern on a Sunday or 6.30 West Coast time. It's hard to find them sometimes.
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Speaker 7: Yes, Dylan?
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Speaker 8: Is it wrong of me to still, of those four, I kind of would take the Chiefs. Like, if the Chiefs play any of those other three teams,
I would be hard-pressed not to go with the Chiefs still. They just, they keep getting it done. It's not always glamorous, but that's what they've done for, In the Mahomes era, they're not like blowing teams out. They just keep winning quietly. Thank you.
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Speaker 7: Thank you, Dylan.
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Speaker 2: By the way, the gambling podcast guys had a parlay last night. Well, they they were ready to have a parlay last night. And you guys somehow talked yourselves out of a great parlay.
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Speaker 7: We did.
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Speaker 8: We've been using the roulette wheel to spin for numbers and using that corresponding number to bet on a touchdown score.
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Speaker 2: But you did have Buffalo money line.
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Speaker 8: No, I had the Rams minus three and a half. So once I went to overtime, I was like, this is going to be an uphill battle. OK, but so we had so we spun the wheel. We got James Cook, Puka Nakua, and then we hit green zero. And we overlooked the fact that Keon Coleman was zero. All three of us forgot that. So we just decided that zero would be a tight end, which was kind of my fault, I'll admit. And we would have hit it. It's kind of my fault. I'm going to take the blame. What would it have paid out? It wasn't anything crazy. It was probably like plus $ 1, 300 or something like that. So it would have been nice.
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Speaker 2: The new gambling podcast is available at danpatrick.com. Settled in, watching my guy Yamamoto. And he didn't even make it to the third inning. Threw a lot of pitches in the first inning. Give Milwaukee credit, though. They're making the Dodgers pitchers work. They're not afraid to come up with a base hit. And Yamamoto, when he's on, it doesn't matter. But he wasn't on last night, and the Brewers took it. You have to take advantage of that situation with that guy. Because if you don't, you're in trouble. But they did, and they're up 2-0, and the Guardians over the Rays, they're up 1-0.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul?
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Speaker 11: The Dodgers had to use eight pitchers last night. Jake Bowers, the first baseman for Milwaukee, his walk versus Yamamoto in the second inning, was 12 pitches. It was like the most exciting walk in recent history.
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Speaker 2: Here's Dave Roberts, the Dodgers manager on Yamamoto's struggles.
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Speaker 5: Obviously wasn't sharp. You know, just wasn't sharp today.
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Speaker 12: And you can see from that contrarious at bat in the third inning, that really stressed him. Then you follow that up with the powers at bat. You know, at that point in time, once the breaking ball, he hangs the breaker, yellows, gets a hit. We've got to find a way to put it out. But tonight he just didn't have it tonight, which is very rare.
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Speaker 2: And the Dodgers, we can talk about their pitching staff, but you've got to get some timely hitting here. Runners in scoring position this postseason, they're batting 077.
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Speaker 7: And the Brewers' bullpen, I
mentioned, historically great.
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Speaker 2: That's one earned run in 28 and two-thirds innings in the postseason. So the ERA for the bullpen is 0.31. Last time you had a bullpen this great, you go back to the 1990 Reds. And that team won the World Series against the A's. But Brewers are playing great baseball. They're playing baseball the way you need to play against the Dodgers. You can't match them talent for talent, but your game plan versus their game plan. And right now, Ohtani, there's conversations that they may bench Shohei Ohtani.
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Speaker 13: May.
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Speaker 5: May.
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Speaker 2: This according to The Athletic late last night that the Dodgers will discuss benching him for game three.
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Speaker 7: The injuries have been there.
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Speaker 2: You know, if you go back, the last time he pitched in a game, it was July 3rd. 30 home runs, the lowest in a year since 2022. You got the bicep issue and the left knee issue. And I don't know if you can just leave him in the lineup just to let that opposition know he's still there and he might take you deep. He just seems defensive when he's up there. He's not offensive like we're used to seeing Ohtani. It's let me just try to get the bat on the ball. Let me try not to strike out. But Ohtani, and I think they have a 21-year-old. His name is Josue DePaula. He's 21 years of age, number four prospect in baseball according to Baseball America. He might get the call as the DH as the series shifts to Los Angeles. Andrew in Washington leads us off this morning.
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Speaker 7: Good morning, Andrew.
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Speaker 5: Good morning, Dan Bennett.
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Speaker 9: Thanks for taking my call. I just was very confused with the whole Rams thing. At the end of regulation, they ran that less than two-minute drill to perfection. We're right on every single play. Matt Stafford, if you looked in his eyes, he was dialed in. He was just there. And then they get to that after the fumble by James Cook in overtime.
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Speaker 2: Down.
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Speaker 9: It almost looked like they were playing not to win. And you know, we play to win the game. So I don't know why you'd put it in. in the NFL and put it on his foot to try to win a game, one of the most important games of the year.
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Speaker 5: Like you say, you look.
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Speaker 9: Back on it and you wonder why you don't have home field advantage or maybe you don't get to the playoffs. It's games like this. And Sean McVay, during his press conference, even mentioned, I wish I had that third and five back. Maybe I would have had a better play. What does that mean?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think what he was saying, and thank you, Andrew, is I didn't trust my kicker. I wanted the drive to continue that we were going to try to score touchdowns. And that's why I was surprised that he went conservative. Even if Stafford has to throw the ball away, I still want to give him another chance.
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Speaker 7: And Puka
Nakua was unbelievable last night. Tripp in Vegas. Morning, Tripp.
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Speaker 14: Hey, good morning, DP. I had a few questions about the game last night. At the end of the game, when the Rams were driving and it just looked like Buffalo was worn out, why not use a timeout to break the momentum there for a second just to see if you can get your defense in order? And then as far as this kicker, with his number being 92, if you put a decimal point in the middle, would that be his 40th time? Good Lord. Y'all have a good day.
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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't think they have him because of his 40-yard dash time trip.
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Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin. Yeah, we were talking about the kicker's looks.
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Speaker 13: And looks can be deceiving, but they were not deceiving because he definitely looks like one of the dads in my pickup line from my son's school.
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Speaker 5: Yes, Paulie.
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Speaker 11: Harrison Mevis, the Rams kicker. He was at Missouri a couple years ago. He had some big kicks.
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Speaker 7: No pun.
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Speaker 11: He is listed at 6'2, 45. If he's a fullback, that's fine. Right?
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 2: And the Rams special teams have not been good the last few years.
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Speaker 2: He's Ross Tucker, the rising star at CBS, and he was there on the call with Ian Eagle over the weekend. Broncos come back to beat the Chargers. He's got the Panthers and Eagles coming up this weekend. You know, speaking of the Chargers, I'm surprised how quickly this caught fire of, could the Chargers move on from Justin Herbert?
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Speaker 7: Okay, why?
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Speaker 2: What is happening here with Justin Herbert? Let's just start with him and what you saw in that game against the Broncos.
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Speaker 5: Well, so there's a couple of things going on, right? Number one, and they can both be true.
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Speaker 13: Number one, Dan, they had four rookie offensive linemen starting, three of whom were making their first start ever.
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Speaker 5: That hadn't happened before.
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Speaker 13: Going back to 1978 on record outside of a strike season. And who knows how far back it goes. And then no Ladd McConkie, no Quinton Johnston. Trey Harris gets hurt during the
game. He's basically playing with college kids blocking for him and third and fourth string receivers. That said, he's turning the ball over too much. He had two awful interceptions against the Seahawks, had a bad one against the Broncos when the game was still tight.
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Speaker 5: He had a careless fumble. I think he would tell you that.
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Speaker 13: He does not look overly comfortable in Mike McDaniel's offense. It's really fascinating because I think a lot of people were really fired up about the Chargers this year. Really fired up about Justin Herbert working with Mike McDaniel. And so far, it's gone about as poorly as it could possibly go. I do not think that they would be looking to move on from him. That would surprise me. Although, I don't know if they end up having the number one pick. And they really like one of these college kids. And they feel like they'd rather have one of these college guys on a rookie contract rather than paying Herbert $ 57 million. I guess it's not outside the realm of possibility, but he's a pretty good quarterback.
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Speaker 5: They won 11 games the last couple of years, made the playoffs.
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Speaker 13: That would take a lot, I think, for the Chargers to move on from Herbert.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised that it kind of metastasized this quickly, that all of a sudden we're questioning, you know, but Jim Harbaugh brought this upon Justin Herbert earlier this year when he said he could be the greatest quarterback of all time. I love that you back your quarterback, but let's back him with reality. And that was nowhere near reality. But I do think Justin Herbert can still be a great quarterback, but I mean, it felt like this was front office malpractice that they didn't. You know he needs weapons. So get him weapons. I don't know how involved they were with trying to get A.J. Brown or, you know, throw out D.J. Moore or any of these guys who would have been available or Tyreek Hill. But, you know, you can't go in with that kind of inexperience there. I understand it. But I can't move on from Justin Herbert.
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Speaker 7: Not yet.
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Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.
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Speaker 13: Well, the really interesting thing is, you know, if it gets really ugly and right now they're 0-5, that's pretty ugly.
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Speaker 5: What changes do they feel like they need to make?
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Speaker 13: The easy one would probably be moving on from Mike McDaniel, the offensive coordinator.
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Speaker 5: But they just did that last year. You know, they were 11-4. They lost. the last couple regular season games. They lost in the playoffs again.
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Speaker 13: So the card or the hand, Dan, that Jim Harbaugh kind of played was, okay, we've made the playoffs two years, won 11 games, can't get.
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Speaker 5: Over the hump.
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Speaker 13: We need a new offensive coordinator. Well, if you bring the new offensive coordinator in and it's worse.
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Speaker 13: Does ownership allow you to just take a mulligan on that one, bring another offensive coordinator? Could they maybe move on from Jim Harbaugh at the end of the year? Could they, like some people are suggesting, move on from Herbert? If it continues to.
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Speaker 5: Go this way, there are, I guess, three options.
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Speaker 13: It would be give him another chance with another offensive coordinator, which, by the way, this is Herbert's fifth offensive coordinator in seven years.
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Speaker 5: Or maybe Harbaugh's gone, or maybe they move on from Herbert.
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Speaker 2: OK, speaking of offensive coordinators, the Eagles have a new one in Sean Mannion. So Jalen Hurts continues his streak of every single year in college and the NFL. He's had a new offensive coordinator. But this feels like it's maybe it's year to year. It almost feels like it's week to week that we have an opinion on Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts.
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Speaker 7: Are they intertwined? Like if one is out, then the other one is out. Vice versa.
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Speaker 13: It's a good question. You know, I'll tell you how they're definitely intertwined. Everybody talks about them the same way. No matter what success they've had, the last five years, Dan, they've made the playoffs all five years.
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Speaker 5: They've won the division three times. They've been to two Super Bowls. They've won one.
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Speaker 13: By the way, no other coach had done that in their first five years, what Sirianni's done.
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Speaker 5: However, it's fascinating.
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Speaker 13: Because I do a lot of Philly stuff, but as you know, I do a lot of national stuff. The perception nationally is that they have a loaded roster a loaded team, that it's primarily been as a result of Howie Roseman having all these awesome players, and that Sirianni and Hurts are both good, but maybe not great. Because it's funny, whenever Sirianni defends Hurts from criticism... All the things he says to support Hertz, and rightfully so, are the same things that anybody else, including Hertz, could use to defend Sirianni. The reality is, do I think either one of them are necessarily elite?
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Speaker 5: You know, top three, top five?
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Speaker 12: No.
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Speaker 5: Probably not.
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Speaker 13: But it is impossible to win as much as they have if you're not a good quarterback and not a good coach.
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Speaker 5: You can't do it.
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Speaker 13: You can't win at the level they've won unless Sirianni is a confirmed good.
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Speaker 5: Coach, hurts a confirmed good quarterback.
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Speaker 13: But for some people, that might not be enough.
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Speaker 2: Talking to Ross Tucker, CBS Sports. He'll be on the call, Panthers-Eagles at 1 Eastern. So to be eyeing Eagle... calling the Eagles game. Okay, just want to make sure I got that right. You can follow along with Ross Tucker's social media at Ross Tucker NFL.
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Speaker 7: Are the Rams going to
be okay?
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Speaker 5: I think so.
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Speaker 13: You know, but they keep finding a way to lose close games, to be in close games. They're certainly not what we thought they were going to be. And I know Miles Garrett's not playing right now, but they have a lot of guys. You know, I think people thought there were people talking about them going undefeated. I never thought that was realistic, but I did think 14, 15 wins.
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Speaker 5: Well, they're already two and three.
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Speaker 13: And by the way, They were down 10 to the Eagles with five minutes left last week. They were fortunate to come back and win that game. And it's all different kinds of reasons why. Some games it's penalties. Sometimes it's special teams. Sometimes it's the defense. They have not quite figured it out yet. I still believe that they will.
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Speaker 5: But here's the thing.
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Speaker 13: They are really increasing their degree of difficulty because it's highly unlikely that they'll win the division. I mean, they're already down essentially three and a half games to the 49ers because they're down three and they lost a head to head.
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Speaker 5: So they're going to have to try to do it again. Like they did it last year, Dan.
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Speaker 13: As a wild card on the road, and they kind of ran out of steam.
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Speaker 5: In the NFC Championship game in Seattle.
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Speaker 13: It is not easy to win road playoff games, to have to go to San Francisco or go and win those games.
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Speaker 5: They're certainly making.
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Speaker 13: It a lot harder than we thought they would have to for this quote-unquote super team.
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Speaker 2: I asked DraftKings to give me the Super Bowl matchup odds. So the best odds right now after week five. Let me ask you which one you would sign up for that would probably happen. Bills Niners, Chiefs Niners, Ravens Niners, all the same odds. Then it goes Jags Niners, Patriots Niners, Bills Rams, Chiefs Rams, Ravens Rams.
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Speaker 5: Is the question what I would want the most or the most likely? Most likely.
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Speaker 7: Most likely.
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Speaker 5: Right now, I think I would say, I'm definitely saying the Niners.
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Speaker 13: I think the Niners are the best team in the sport.
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Speaker 5: I think the Niners are unbelievable.
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Speaker 13: It's crazy. They keep having Debo's hurt now. Greenlaw suspended. It doesn't matter. They just keep winning. So Niners definitely from the NFC. Because it's almost like, Dan, they have all these all-stars that are in their early 30s, and they're like, yo, this is our last chance.
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Speaker 5: It's like McCaffrey's talking to Mike.
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Speaker 13: Evans, who's talking to Kittle, who's talking to Debo, who's talking to Fred Warner, who's talking to.
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Speaker 5: Trent Williams, being like, this is our last shot.
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Speaker 13: And they're playing like it, and Purdy's playing out of
his mind. So definitely in the Niners. AFC's a little bit more interesting. I think I might take the Chiefs right now. Because the Bills' defense is troubling to me. And there's nobody else in the AFC that really... I mean, maybe Jacksonville, but I always kind of feel like you got to walk before you run a little bit in the playoffs. Jags haven't even won a playoff game in a while. So I'll take Niners-Chiefs. Haven't we seen that Super Bowl like twice in the last five years.
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Speaker 5: It feels like? Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 12: The.
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Speaker 7: Play calling, clock management. How does this keep coming up?
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Speaker 2: I'm guessing each staff has one guy who is your clock guy, game situation man.
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Speaker 7: I'm guessing.
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Speaker 13: A lot of teams, Dan, have multiple guys in that role.
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Speaker 5: Maybe that's the issue.
00:26:58
Speaker 13: Because I'm calling games now, Dan, I talk to three or four of these guys, okay? Because I want to make sure I'm up to date on where they are analytics-wise, what the latest trends are they're seeing.
00:27:14
Speaker 5: I can't even begin.
00:27:16
Speaker 13: To tell you how much time they put into these situations I almost wonder, like the commander situation, is it paralysis by analysis or Like, is there too much information in front of them?
00:27:35
Speaker 5: Like, I even have, I'll show you, Dan. Like, I have like a printout.
00:27:39
Speaker 13: Of, you know, when to go for two and when to go for on fourth down and field goals. And what I've noticed calling games, I don't have time to look at that. You know, like it's in between plays. I got to just say what I think. So I already kind of have some idea of what I think. I think things happen faster than people realize. And maybe rather than looking at the sheet or having all these code names, all this information, maybe it's just.
00:28:07
Speaker 5: Like, hey, yeah, we got to spike the ball here.
00:28:12
Speaker 13: Or maybe there's too much information at some times for some of these teams.
00:28:17
Speaker 11: Okay.
00:28:18
Speaker 2: It just doesn't make any sense that you have to know how many timeouts you have left.
00:28:23
Speaker 7: That's the most important thing.
00:28:25
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels walks onto the field in that situation or in the huddle. How many timeouts do we have? We don't have any timeouts. Okay, now your play calling is different. How he doesn't know or Dan Quinn doesn't convey and remind him and remind him we don't have a timeout. And you still go out there and act like you do. And then you had the Eagles situation. Nick Sirianni has to understand the Jags don't have a timeout. If you kick the ball in the end zone, they're out at the 35. They don't have a chance to throw the ball downfield, stop the clock and kick the field goal.
00:29:06
Speaker 5: Correct? Well, if they threw an outbreaking route.
00:29:11
Speaker 13: Now, obviously, the Eagles would be protecting the sideline. I've seen them do it in practice. The Eagles would be doing whatever they can to prevent an out route. The question you'd have to ask yourself in that situation is, are they more likely to have a 60-yard kickoff return?
00:29:29
Speaker 5: Or with Cam Little as the kicker for the Jags, they.
00:29:33
Speaker 13: Get the ball at the 35, even just a 15-yard out route, 15, 20-yard out route, he attempting a field goal, and he has the distance on it. I didn't think that was as bad, actually, Dan, as when the Eagles had the ball on offense. They never should have had to kick it off. The Jags only had one timeout. I think they realize that now. I agree with what Sirianni said, Dan. He said, listen— I feel like teams settle too often for 50-yard field goals. I agree with that. But it can't be an out route to Makai Lemon. Second down, he cannot go out of bounds. I'm okay with you trying to get more yards.
00:30:12
Speaker 5: Those guys got to know we cannot be going out of bounds here.
00:30:16
Speaker 13: The commanders thing, I guess I applaud Dan Quinn for saying we messed up and it was bad.
00:30:22
Speaker 5: I think all of us would just love to know what happened there. Remember.
00:30:25
Speaker 13: first-time offensive coordinator, first-time play caller, David Blau, who was a player like two years ago, and that one seemed different. The Eagles made conscious decisions that didn't go their way. It felt like nobody had their hand on the steering wheel for the command. The Eagles might have made a wrong turn or two, but they at least were doing what they wanted to do. The commanders, it felt like nobody took... command, and got them to stop the clock.
00:31:00
Speaker 5: That was stunning.
00:31:01
Speaker 13: The commanders, in terms of the national consciousness, took the Eagles off the hook on some level because theirs was just so egregious.
00:31:10
Speaker 2: And that might be something that leads to Dan Quinn being fired eventually.
00:31:14
Speaker 5: I would imagine so. Yeah, I mean, look, let's see how the rest of the year goes.
00:31:18
Speaker 13: But that's one that, especially Josh Harris, he's big into all the analytics and Moneyball and all that stuff.
00:31:26
Speaker 5: That's not going to fly with him at all. I'd love to hear the explanation.
00:31:30
Speaker 13: I saw where Florio said they should record the headset conversations.
00:31:35
Speaker 5: You know what's interesting, Dan?
00:31:38
Speaker 13: This is why the owner for the Colts is on the sideline with the headset on. Because she would know. If she was the owner of the Commanders, she would know what Dan Quinn said. She would know what the offensive coordinator said. She would know what they said in the headset to Jayden Daniels. They would know. Meanwhile, for Josh Harris, the owner of the Commanders, he's just going to kind of hear it secondhand now.
00:32:04
Speaker 2: It's still embarrassing. I can't applaud Dan Quinn for falling on the
sword. I have to criticize him that he put himself in a position where he's falling on the sword for his quarterback. Don't you say this over and over. You do not have a timeout. That's all that matters in this situation.
00:32:23
Speaker 13: So here's the interesting one I was thinking about, okay? Jane Daniels isn't going anywhere. Jane Daniels is going to be there. So what if Dan Quinn said to Jane Daniels, hey, listen, scramble for a little bit. And then spike the ball or throw it away because we don't have a timeout. And maybe Daniels lost his mind and didn't do it. If you're Dan Quinn, do you say to the media, I told Jaden Daniels to spike the ball or throw it away.
00:32:54
Speaker 5: He screwed up.
00:32:56
Speaker 13: Because I guess technically you're saving yourself, but not really. Because then it just feels like you're throwing your quarterback under the bus.
00:33:03
Speaker 5: He's the franchise quarterback.
00:33:05
Speaker 13: You're kind of in a bad spot either way.
00:33:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it took them 23 seconds to get out of the huddle. Like they were letting the clock. If you want to go for extra yards, great. And then have time to spike it. But it didn't even look like they had called a play, and Jaden Daniels is kind of like, I don't know what I'm doing, and then I'll just fall down, and then still didn't.
00:33:30
Speaker 7: It's one of those where.
00:33:32
Speaker 7: If the NFL was still.
00:33:33
Speaker 2: Doing those blooper reels, those VHSs like this, I would love to hear whatever conversation was going on on the sidelines.
00:33:43
Speaker 7: I'd love to know.
00:33:45
Speaker 13: And watching the receivers and the linemen, nobody knew. Nobody was like in a hurry. It was like it was the second quarter. It was one of the worst I've ever seen.
00:33:57
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00:34:10
Speaker 7: Thank you, bud.
00:34:11
Speaker 5: Of course. Thank you.
00:34:12
Speaker 7: Ross Tucker.
00:34:13
Speaker 2: We did some research yesterday. Big German. Yeah, we did some homework yesterday. The Big German said to chat GPT. Who has been on our show the most in the last five years? Ross Tucker, number one on that list. Albert Breer on that list. Reggie Miller on that list the last five years. But Ross Tucker, clubhouse leader, most appearances. Big star now at CBS. We'll take a break. We'll talk baseball top of the hour. Your phone calls next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at FoxSportsRadio.com. And within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live. We make way for MLB network analyst and one of our faves, Sean Casey. You can find him on MLB Tonight, MLB Central. That's airing every day through the World Series. and the Mayor's Office podcast, Sean's own show available everywhere.
00:35:18
Speaker 7: How did you get the nickname The Mayor?
00:35:21
Speaker 4: That's a great question. First off, what's up, Danny? Good to see you, brother. You know what?
00:35:26
Speaker 10: Back in back when I was in the Cape Cod League in 1994, it's like, you know, the Wood Bat League for college baseball.
00:35:33
Speaker 7: You know me.
00:35:34
Speaker 4: I'm just talking. Everybody's saying hi. And there was a coach there.
00:35:37
Speaker 10: His name was Bill Mosey Yellow, who was the assistant coach of Tennessee for a while. He's been at TCU, was a great college baseball coach. I don't know if he loved the fact that I talked to everybody. He was a real serious guy at the time. And I think he was like, hey, man, he's like, you're talking to everybody at first. You talk to everybody coming in. It almost looks like you're lobbying for votes to become the.
00:35:57
Speaker 4: Mayor or something.
00:35:58
Speaker 10: And next thing you know, he started calling me the mayor, and it caught on. And I remember one night, Carl Ravitch, 1999, I got a hit, and I was getting on second, and he said, they called this guy the mayor. That was the first time I ever heard it, so... It's really starting in Cape Cod League 1994.
00:36:14
Speaker 7: The Mayor's Office podcast. All right.
00:36:17
Speaker 2: Help me understand what pitchers are going or have been doing to Shohei Ohtani.
00:36:24
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:36:24
Speaker 10: Well, first off, when I look at Shohei's swing, it just doesn't look like Shohei. I mean, everything is literally going to the right. I mean, it looks like he's pulling out. You know, we call that kind of stepping in the bucket. His butt's going towards the first base dugout. He's kind of just waving at So I wonder for Shohei, you know, right now, you know, he's not really hitting the fastball upper rail, which he does usually better than anybody in baseball. And it just seems like to me, he's not being able to get on that front side and really drive the baseball. So the pitchers, they're hitting them with fastballs up. He's swinging through them and then they're soft away and he's just kind of waving at it. He just looks like he's not healthy to.
00:37:04
Speaker 7: Me, DP. Okay. How do you get out of this slump?
00:37:09
Speaker 10: Well, I mean, listen, man, at the end of the day, I know for me when I felt like everything was sped up, I mean, you just got to find a way to slow things down.
00:37:18
Speaker 4: And I think one thing as a hitter, You're always one pitch away.
00:37:22
Speaker 10: You're one pitch away from getting a pitch you want and putting a good swing on it. But right now, this is as lost as I've ever seen Ohtani, and that's why I wonder if he's totally healthy. But the fact that he's out there and Doc's running him out there means that he's doing well in BP and doing well with whatever they're running him through. And it's just a matter of getting that one big hit.
00:37:44
Speaker 7: Can you justify
benching him?
00:37:48
Speaker 4: You know what?
00:37:49
Speaker 10: I tell you what, we got a sprint going on now. I mean, in this series, it's the first of four. So if I'm looking at this, I can't even worry. I have to look at maybe guys that are hotter or a guy that can maybe do a little better right now because the sample size is over a month now. It's been almost 30 games where he's hitting below 40. below 200 uh with no extra base hits no home runs so it's not like he just been scuffling this last week it's been almost a month so i mean it's definitely an option i think doc's gonna have to look at it and say is there another guy that we put in here i.
00:38:22
Speaker 2: Think we got to change the mendoza line because it feels like batting 200 is not an embarrassment anymore sean.
00:38:30
Speaker 10: It's not i mean striking out 200 times is not an embarrassment anymore it's a It's just a different world we live in, Danny.
00:38:37
Speaker 4: I mean, it's incredible.
00:38:39
Speaker 10: There's guys hitting 170, 180, and they.
00:38:42
Speaker 4: Say, oh, he plays good defense. But I'm like, yeah, but he's failing 83% of the time. That's okay nowadays. So, yeah, it's a different game as far as that goes.
00:38:51
Speaker 2: Okay, but help me understand this with the White Sox, where you strike out 21 times in a game.
00:38:58
Speaker 13: Yeah.
00:38:59
Speaker 2: Don't you think putting the bat on the ball, making contact, making the fielders field and throw– putting pressure on getting a base hit. Help me understand the new age, the new world that I refuse to accept.
00:39:15
Speaker 10: Well, I tell you what, when you watch a couple of the teams right now, they're two of the best in baseball is the Brewers and the Rays. They're doing the opposite of that. You know, they're putting pressure on the defense. You saw they're getting guys over. I thought it was great in the game last night. Uh, the guy on second no outs jackson churro one of the best hitters gives himself up ground ball to first gets the guy to third sack fly or terang knocks him in like getting bunts down doing that stuff like i'm just saying i know we've gone away from that for years now But that still works.
00:39:46
Speaker 4: The best team in baseball is doing that night in and night out.
00:39:49
Speaker 10: And one of the biggest things with the Dodgers and why they're having trouble, I mean, Yamamoto goes two and two-thirds innings all because they're working the at-bat.
00:39:57
Speaker 4: They're not chasing. You know, they're making him work. They're working walks, you know, the Brewers.
00:40:02
Speaker 10: So, listen, I don't know if the analytics has it totally right of, like, you just got to hit the ball in the ballpark because the best teams in the last years that win the World Series– They're the teams that are good at bats, putting the ball in play, playing baseball, kind of like we grew up knowing.
00:40:17
Speaker 5: It, Dan.
00:40:18
Speaker 2: Talking
to Sean Casey, MLB network analyst, and his podcast, the Mayor's Office podcast. I like what I see with Milwaukee because I think they understand who they are, and that kind of translates whether they're at home or they're away, whether they're ahead or behind, and that bullpen, That bullpen has been unbelievable. It brings back the nasty boys from the Big Red Machine in 1990.
00:40:43
Speaker 5: It does, man.
00:40:44
Speaker 10: You do think of the nasty boys. The big thing about that bullpen first is they don't give up damage. And when you look at what the Dodgers have scored their runs, mostly in this postseason, it's on the home run. And it just turns out the Dodgers bullpen don't, I mean, the Brewers bullpen doesn't really give up home runs. So that's a huge factor in this situation. And I'll tell you what, I think you've got to give a lot of credit to Pat Murphy. Pat Murphy has not wavered on who the standard for playing as a Milwaukee Brewer in the last three years.
00:41:11
Speaker 4: He's not wavered in who he is and who their team is.
00:41:14
Speaker 10: And you can see, just by them winning the over 100 games this year and the way they play, they're really concerned about the next pitch and winning the next inning and winning the next game.
00:41:23
Speaker 4: So it's a fun team to watch.
00:41:25
Speaker 10: And with the way Miz has pitched this year, too, going to win the Cy Young, it's fun baseball.
00:41:30
Speaker 4: It's a great team to watch.
00:41:32
Speaker 2: When you're in the batter's box and somebody's throwing 100... Are you guessing that they're going to throw like because if you're saying I think they're going to throw a curveball and they throw a fastball or vice versa, you're not going to catch up with those things.
00:41:48
Speaker 7: I'm going to guess. I mean, if you think.
00:41:50
Speaker 10: About it, you know, hitting a baseball should be impossible. You have to you have to decide.
00:41:54
Speaker 4: Am I swinging? Am I not swinging?
00:41:56
Speaker 5: Is it up? Is it down?
00:41:57
Speaker 4: Is it a ball to strike curveball slider fastball?
00:42:00
Speaker 10: So if you have a guy throwing 95 plus or a hundred miles an hour, you got to hunt the fastball because.
00:42:05
Speaker 4: I really believe you got it.
00:42:07
Speaker 10: That's the pitch that, that, that you want to do damage on and anything else that's, that's up.
00:42:12
Speaker 4: If it's a slider, it's a curve ball.
00:42:13
Speaker 10: If it's a change up and it's up in your zone, your eyes are just going to react and go to it. So if you're facing a guy throwing a hundred, you got to respect that obviously. And you got to be able to, you know, you got to be on that. And I feel like if you're on that, you can be on anything else.
00:42:26
Speaker 2: But if I told you, what Mizorowski was throwing. Like, here comes a fastball. I'll even give you a location.
00:42:34
Speaker 10: If he's thrown 105... Now, if he's thrown 100, 101, I think that's a different animal than when he's thrown 105... Man, you could tell me it's coming. I'm going to give my best shot, but that's a different animal. That's why his fastball is so unique. It's the one pitch and game that gives everybody fits because it's 104-105.
00:42:57
Speaker 4: Now, when he's down to 100-101, which I think it's crazy that we're even saying that, we're like, oh, he's hittable.
00:43:04
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:43:06
Speaker 7: He's only throwing a 101.
00:43:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's no big deal. 101, that's no big deal.
00:43:12
Speaker 7: Is he the best pitcher in baseball?
00:43:14
Speaker 4: I think he is right now.
00:43:15
Speaker 5: I mean, I really do.
00:43:16
Speaker 10: He's scuffing a little bit in the postseason with this pitch count and stuff, but also the Dodgers are making him work. But I think right now he's the best pitcher in baseball. Throwing 105, I think he's only getting better. And yeah, I think he is right now.
00:43:28
Speaker 2: And my guy, Yamamoto, I love watching him pitch, and you had to tune in early because he wasn't going to last.
00:43:35
Speaker 14: Yeah.
00:43:37
Speaker 7: I would never swing at his pitches.
00:43:40
Speaker 4: Well, you know what's funny, Danny? He doesn't want you to swing at him.
00:43:43
Speaker 10: You know, the big start he had in his last outing, he threw 39% strikes.
00:43:48
Speaker 4: He's a master at the strike to ball. You know, if you're a great pitcher.
00:43:53
Speaker 10: It's like I think about Maddox. When you'd face Maddox back in the day, it would present itself as a strike.
00:44:01
Speaker 4: And when you go to swing, it was a ball. It was running a crisscross on the plate.
00:44:05
Speaker 10: That's Yamamoto. That's what makes him so good with the split finger and the curveball. But I tell you what, that's why the Brewers are really good. They kind of waited them out. You saw some 10, 12-pitch at-bats. They weren't chasing the split as much as other teams were. And they're the best team in baseball at the chase rate of not chasing. And, you know, we haven't seen Yamamoto go two and two-thirds in a long, long time.
00:44:25
Speaker 7: What do you make of the Guardians beating the Rays?
00:44:29
Speaker 10: Well, I think the one thing with the Guardians, you know, their Achilles heel these past few years is they can't hit the long ball and they can't score runs. And that's kind of starting to flip. I mean, in game one against the Rays, Rasmussen held him down. De Lauder gets the one to left center. Then Bailey clips him in the seventh. And then all of a sudden, the floodgates open. They end up scoring, I think, they scored nine runs or seven or nine runs.
00:44:52
Speaker 5: Seven runs.
00:44:53
Speaker 4: Seven runs.
00:44:54
Speaker 10: And they did a couple of them on a couple long balls. So I think the Guardians pitching, their starting pitching is good. Their bullpen lights out. If they can hit DP, we might see them in.
00:45:03
Speaker 4: The World Series.
00:45:05
Speaker 7: Can you explain Jose Ramirez?
00:45:08
Speaker 10: Man, just one of the best players this generation. I mean, the guy does everything. You know, he switch hits. He hits for power and average from both sides of the plate. If you put his splits up too, DP, you couldn't tell. He's almost the exact same righty and lefty, which that's usually not the case. And he steals bases, and he's a real leader, man. This guy goes out, leads by example, and he's as clutch as they come.
00:45:31
Speaker 4: It's so fun to watch him.
00:45:33
Speaker 7: I know you're busy. Thanks for joining us, as always.
00:45:36
Speaker 5: You're the best, dude.
00:45:36
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on, man.
00:45:37
Speaker 7: That's Sean Casey.